Nightcap Hour 2: Michael Penix Jr. wants to be CODDLED in the NFL + NFL ducks GRADES for team FACILITIES + Shilo Sanders is a CHEAP TIPPER?

Summary

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Club Shay Shay — Nightcap Hour 2:

Michael Penix Jr. Wants to Be CODDLED in the NFL + NFL Ducks GRADES for Team FACILITIES + Shilo Sanders Is a CHEAP TIPPER?

Date: November 14, 2025
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson
Special Guest Appearances: Big Lon, Ashley Reitveld, Daniel Jeremiah

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Episode Overview

In this episode of Nightcap Hour 2, Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson break down hot topics swirling around the NFL and sports culture. Discussions include Michael Penix Jr.'s comments on support in the pros, player/coach relationships, NFL team facilities and player report cards, tipping culture sparked by Shilo Sanders, and a range of candid, humorous exchanges about NFL life, generational changes, and personal finance lessons.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Michael Penix Jr. and the "Coddling" Conversation

• Context: Michael Penix Jr.'s press conference goes viral after he shares that his fiancée provides unconditional support after games.
  • Quote: "Like, mentally, like my fiancée, she's always there for me. So I know whenever I get home, it doesn't matter how I played, she's always going to be there for me...” — Michael Penix Jr. [02:48]
• Ochocinco questions whether unconditional positivity is the right approach, suggesting partners should give "tough love" when needed.
  • Quote: "No, honey, it’s not okay. You can’t embarrass the family like that... Tough love is okay sometimes." — Ochocinco [04:17]
• Both Ochocinco and Sharpe explain that, at the pro level, players can't expect personal handholding or “coddling” from coaches.
  • Shannon: “The sports business, this is a grown man's business. You get paid a king's ransom to play a kid's game. They’re not holding your hand.” [06:54]
  • Ochocinco: “Ain’t no coddling in the NFL, Ocho boy. This is business. We expect you to execute those X’s and O’s.” [08:46]

Memorable Segment

• Shannon tells an anecdote about draft anxiety:
  • "The phone rang... they know we in here. Where we going?" [12:36]
  • Discusses the emotional difficulty of NFL cuts and the harsh realities faced by late-round picks versus top draft talent.

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2. NFL Facility Report Cards & Owners' Grievance

• Issue: NFL owners filed a grievance, led by Jets owner Woody Johnson (who consistently received F grades), to halt the NFLPA’s annual player-conducted facility report cards.
  • Shannon: “Jets owner Woody Johnson called them totally bogus… he’s never got anything but F.” [21:19]
• Ochocinco and Shannon advocate for transparency so teams improve amenities and care for their players and families.
  • Ochocinco: "That's a good thing... so players are aware, the NFLPA is self-aware of how these owners are conducting themselves.” [22:14]
  • Shannon: “If you don’t like the score, there’s a choice you can make. If you don't want that report card, improve your facility!” [30:52]
• They reflect on the evolution of facilities, sharing stories from their era (“cold cuts, not steak”) to now ("hyperbaric chambers," "juice bars," “red light therapy”) [24:29, 25:15].

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3. Tipping Culture Debate: Shilo Sanders & Personal Practices

• Prompt: Shilo Sanders went viral for allegedly leaving only a $50 tip, sparking debate.
  • Ochocinco: “I make it a point to overtip tremendously... I think $50 is good. I don't know how much the bill came to...” [51:28]
  • Shannon: “Now, a lot of times the gratuity is already included... How do I go to self-checkout and they talk about tip? I want to know.” [52:18]
• Broader Discussion: Sharpe and Johnson discuss growing "tipflation," appropriate gratuity, and their own generous tipping habits.
  • Ocho: “People that follow me over the years, you know, always tipping a thousand dollars wherever I’m at... This has been routine for me for the past 15 years.” [53:29]
  • Shannon: “I tip... mainly probably about 30%. That’s good… normally, I, you know, 40, $50 for valet, man.” [54:07]
• Societal Reflection: Conversation extends to the low wages of service workers and even underpaid teachers.

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4. QB Play, WR Mindset & Justin Jefferson

• Justin Jefferson’s Comments: The Pro Bowl WR says he wants to return to ‘savage mode’.
  • “I only can control the things that I can control... just wanting to get back into that mode... savage mode.” — Jefferson [43:05]
• Shannon suggests QB play is a factor: “Long story short, my quarterback suck here. Y’all see it. But I'm gonna put it on me and not throw them guys under the bus...” [44:00]
• Ochocinco calls out Jefferson’s more “politically correct” tone: “I need that dog Justin Jefferson... that edge that made him special is going a little bit.” [44:18]
• Both agree top receivers “should eat” regardless of QB—Ocho recalls thriving with various signal-callers [47:52].

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5. NFL Bans on Prop Betting

• Debate: Should the NFL curb or even ban prop bets to reduce gambling risks?
  • Shannon: “If I want to bet Chase, if he gonna get 95 yards, let me do that... You take it. So now I just gotta bet win, lose, over, under. Hell no.” [49:28]
  • Ochocinco: “Those that love to gamble are still gonna do it. They gonna find a way every time.” [49:28]

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6. Personal Finance & Generational Wisdom

• Q&A: Lessons from Elders
  • Ochocinco: “A fool and his money shall soon part ways… the value was not anything I could purchase. It was me and myself and my name alone.” [67:57]
  • Shannon: “Never mistake habit for hard work. Just 'cause you do something over and over don't mean you working hard.” [69:13]

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7. Mailbag & Light-hearted Banter

• The hosts interact with fans, sharing thoughts on Justin Fields’ development and “bust” labeling [69:59], Patriots/Bengals matchups, and recounting stories from their playing careers.
• Shannon jokes about giving away $10,000 to charity versus Ocho’s tipping stories, “I just fed 250 people... you just tip one person $1,500.” [64:07]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On NFL Coaches Not "Coddling":

  • "Ain't nobody holding your hand in the NFL. They're not."
    — Shannon Sharpe [06:54]

• On Facility Upgrades:

  • “Maybe if you improve the amenities and environment around, maybe your team will play better.”
    — Ochocinco [22:37]

• On Tipping:

  • “I always tip a thousand dollars wherever I’m at, whether it be IHOP… This is routine for me the past 15 years.”
    — Ochocinco [53:29]

• On Supporting Service Workers:

  • “But they chose that. It’s like, you know, they don’t pay anything in teaching, you know, that going into it. You can’t take a job and then complain about the pay when you knew the pay was subpar.”
    — Shannon Sharpe [55:22]

• On Financial Discipline:

  • “A fool and his money shall soon part ways… the value was not anything I could purchase. It was me and myself and my name alone was the true value.”
    — Ochocinco [67:57]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Michael Penix Jr. & The ‘Coddling’ Debate: [02:48]–[16:41]
• NFL Facility Grades & Player Report Cards: [21:19]–[33:02]
• Tipping Debate/Service Industry: [51:03]–[67:26]
• Justin Jefferson On ‘Savage Mode’: [43:05]–[47:41]
• NFL Prop Betting Changes: [49:28]–[50:44]
• Personal Finance & Grandparent Wisdom: [67:57]–[69:59]
• Justin Fields Bust Conversation: [69:59]–[73:05]
• Q&A, Fan Shout-outs, and Banter: [73:37]–[81:35]

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Tone & Style

• Conversational, Candid, and Unfiltered:
  The episode is classic Club Shay Shay: the banter is uninhibited, with honest disagreements, storytelling, jokes, and real talk on life and football. Shannon and Ocho’s chemistry drives the episode, blending insight, humor, and a dose of locker room nostalgia.

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Summary

This episode is a tapestry of NFL culture, player mental health, evolving league standards, and the everyday realities facing current and former pro athletes. The hosts discuss the challenge of support systems in the NFL, highlight how transparency in working conditions can drive better outcomes, and debate the fairness and realities of tipping in America, all with plenty of laughs and personal anecdotes. Listeners leave with a deeper understanding of how the league—and the world—has changed, why personal discipline and empathy matter, and how football’s biggest personalities think when the cameras aren’t on.

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Transcript

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Big Lon]

Mmm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Big Lon]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Big Lon]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ashley Reitveld]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ashley Reitveld]

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[Big Lon]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

And answer at a press conference where Michael Pennix Jr. Is gone viral. Oo, let's take a listen to what he had to say. Like, mentally, like my fiance, she's always there for me. So I know whenever I get home, it doesn't matter how I played, she's always going to be there for me. She's going to have a smile on her face and give me a hug and make me feel good no matter what. But as far as, you know, as far as, like, physically, the on the field stuff, it's not nobody that I'll talk to. Like, as far as another quarterback or anything like that, you know, I do have people reach out to me. I do have quarterback coaches, though, back at home that. That reach out to me as well, you know, tell me, hey, like, you need to clean this up, clean that up, you know, and everything will be good. So those. Those guys helped me as far as that too. So I can shout out them.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know. You know what? I. I would love to hear the question that was asked I would love to hear the question that was asked for better context because I'm sure he has quarterback coaches on the sideline. He has. He has young. He has quarterback coaches on the sideline. And I'm sure they're talking about the totality of after a game on what it looked like. I think that that has to be the context of the question because bringing up your fiance and no matter how I play, when I come home, that ain't it. You know, she's there for me. No. Am I.

[Big Lon]

Am I wrong?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Am I wrong? If. If I'm wrong, let me know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What. What are you saying? What are you saying about his fiance?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, how, how she said no matter how I played that she's always there for me when I come. When I come home, always smiling. But if anything, with the first thing your fiance is supposed to say, oh, no. Oh, no, honey, you ain't gonna embarrass me like that. It's supposed to be. No, y' all keep laughing. It's supposed to be tough love. It got if you play bad. She's supposed to be the first one, baby. Come on, come on, come on. Mp. Come on. Don't do that now. You know you can play better than that. You know, you have your unc. No, don't, don't. Don't have one of them wives, they know how to break down that, understand the game. It can break it down for you. Oh, my goodness. That. Now you come home to something like that. Not that old. Oh, Baby, you play bad. It's okay. No, honey, it's not okay. You can't embarrass the family like that. You can't do that. You can't embarrass the Pinnock's last name like that. Now I'm just throwing out hypotheticals, you know, not you coming home and the wife, no matter how you play. Oh, it's okay. But no, it's. You know, tough love is okay sometimes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Exactly.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And the best person to hear tough love from is the one closest to you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, I'm so. So they ask him what coaches that he. Does he rely on. Lean on. Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Like, who do you like? Okay. Ocho, you going through a tough time, Is there somebody that you lean on? Okay.

[Ashley Reitveld]

Boom.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I like that. I like that question. Because the first thing the coaches I would lean on most of the time, it wouldn't be my coaches in Cincinnati. If things aren't going right and there's someone I need to lean on now in game, Hugh Jackson. In game, you know, Alex Wood, you know, some of those coaches that day. But if something's going right and I need. I need to go back to the foundation on how it was built. Charles Collins, 1997, when it all started at Santa Monica College, running the sand dunes, the Manhattan sand dunes, back in the day, like, that's what I'm leaning on. Huh? That's who I'm going to. That's why when Michael Pennock said he mentioned coaches that okay with that question. That's what I'm leaning on. I'm going back where it all started. Hey, Coach C, man, what you see? I don't know what's going on. You know, I'm. I'm doing. Am I rushing? I'm just. Whatever it may be, because he can see. He can see it from a different point of view than I can. He can see it from a different point of view than my coaches do. Come to coaches, they see X and O's. Coach C can see something they don't see, even though they're my receiver coaches.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And guess what? Coach C looking out for you, that receiver coach got five other guys, six other guys that he got a coach.

[Diet Coke Narrator]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. And the conversation would be, absolutely. They view. They viewing me in a different lens than what he's saying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That is correct. So I think people were like, no, that's not what NFL coaches are there. You're not going to be able to rely on your coaches. So I know y' all was surprised that he said that. Well, he can't go to. Nope, nope. Raheem, Raheem, Raheem got 50 guys, 60 guys. He gotta worry about that quarterback. Got that quarterback coach got every. Ain't nobody holding your hand in the NFL. They're not. So. I'm sorry. I don't wanna. I don't. I don't want to come off as callous. I don't want to come off as not being empathetic, but I'm just telling you, the. The sports business, this is a grown man's business. You get paid a king's ransom to play a kid's game. They're not holding your hand. So I understand what he's saying, that when you. Somebody to lean on. I'm calling my former coach. I'm gonna call my brother. What do you see? Am I. Am. Am I. Am I missing something? I feel I'm leaving plays out there, but I don't know what I'm doing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Mm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, send me a copy. Let me. Let me. Let me. Let me look at your practice. Let me see what you. Let me see what you look like in the game. Send me. Send me the game cut up. Send me practice. Let me see. Okay. So, yeah, this is. This is the cold, harsh world. This has always been like this. And I think the thing is that this new generation, they think like it's high school, and like, come on, son. And the coach take you out to eat, put his arm around you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, no, ain't none of that. Ain't none of that. Because listen, that right there, that'll get you. You lose your job, you lose your job. Players get coaches fired. So if you're not playing up the par, depending on who you are, depending on what round you went in, you know, depending on how much you making, they ain't no coddling, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't no coddling in the NFL, Ocho boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

This is. This is. This is business. These are X's and O's. We going over exit. And those Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Sunday. We expect you to execute those X's and O's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Somebody said. Somebody say he was your first round pick. You don't want him to succeed. How many first round picks you think Atlanta got on their roster? So I guess they supposed to take them all out for brunch and breakfast, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It don't work like that. Why?

[Shannon Sharpe]

This is a different generation, Ocho. Because, yeah, this house always been. Because the hair is the thing. This is. Why in the military, there's supposed to be no fraternizer. We're higher up in subordinates, because they're going to be certain times that you're gonna have to be like, you know, like what David did, and he put Bathsheba husband in the front. But that was for a whole different reason, because it clouds your judgment. So you gotta be careful when you coddle a certain player because it's gonna make it much more difficult to get off said player if and when you need to. That's why Coach, Coach Belichick Heisman posed everybody. It was nothing for him to get off a player. You know, coaches tell you that loud all the time. Oh, the most difficult thing it is to do is cut a player. No, it ain't. You built up so much callous, you're numb to it. Think about if you're a coach for 15 years oo, and you got to cut 20 players a year for 15.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Years, they numb to it. Now they pretend, they, they, they pretend about it. The, the conversations they have for you when they ask you, when they get that knock on your door, bring your playbook, coach want to see you, man, they got everything. They probably said. They probably. They probably say the same thing everybody else. The only thing they do, they do different is they change the first name when they greet you and let you know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, this is tough decision. Everything you got to do. This is the worst part of my job. Nor they you, you were really easy. But you know what I'm saying, I'm just being real, you know, this is the tough part of my job that nobody likes to do. They sitting in their chair like this. Hey, come on in. How you doing, son?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, you just got caught up in the. Oo, you know, they sit back. You just got caught up in the numbers game. It's just one of those.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The number. There it is, that numbers game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There's a possibility that we might now with a situation, bring you back. We might bring you back for the practice squad, but we're going to give you an opportunity to go out there and see what's out there. And, you know. Yeah, I'm just telling you how it is.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I'm just, I'm just being all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The way honest with you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And, and, and because a lot of times, you know, everybody has those aspirations. You don't go to the NFL and say, well, if I get cut, it's okay. No, it hurts because for a lot of these guys, this the end of something that they've been doing since they were 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 years old.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So the end is never Easy. Oh, you're a good movie. You. Man, you don't want to. You don't want a good movie to go. I'll be like, damn, that's it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Mm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn. Yeah, it's. It is tough. And. And having gone through that, that's something that you didn't have to worry about being a second round pick, that I had to worry about being a seventh round pick. And I remember. I remember like yesterday because we were staying at the Clarion Hotel out by Centennial Airport. That's where all the private planes come in at Centennial. And we're standing at the Clarion. And I'll never, ever forget. The phone rang. So you know, Ocho, we got two room one one phone. Me, I ain't answered. Like they don't know. Like they can't come over there and knock on the door and say, hey, hey, coach, Coach, Coach Reeves want to see you, right? And I remember, phone rang. The phone rang about three or four times. I'm like, they know we in here. Where we going?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, you ain't. You ain't picking up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, you gotta come. You gotta come fast. I ain't pick up no phone. How would you give it? Give me bad news face to face, right? My roommate picked it up. After a while, I see my door open. They got your boy, man. I say, damn, man, I'm sorry to hear that, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like, man, hey, but you keep going. That's bad. You a. As a matter we still. I hadn't talked to him. I mean, I talked to him from time to time, right? He came to see me play in Denver. He came to see. He came back to see me play in Denver. He came to see me play in Baltimore. He came to the Hall. We were. We were. We still cool? Be. Be Mac. He'll tell you. He called me. He was still the only one that really called me Double S. But it was tough because, you know, I was talking about, man, what I wanted to do, X, Y, and Z. But you know what, Ocho?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

At that time, I had a Mercedes. My brother said, nah. Yeah, leave the car home. Don't know. But hey, don't tell nobody you got it. Don't tell nobody nothing. You going up there, you trying to make a team, you ain't got no car, right? Okay. But it's. It's. It's. It's real. Ain't nobody. Ain't no baby, man. You remember I told you I had that thigh bruise? I had a hole in my thigh, in my quad. They don't Care nothing about that. They trying to find the best 53 damn players they can possibly find to make this team. And the more you can do, the better your chances are, the better. Oh, you not a starter. You're not the start. 11 starting defense or. How many special teams can you play? Put me on point. Yeah. Kick return. I can play 4 to 5.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All of it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, 4 to 6. I can't play on PAT, and I can't play PAT. Block a field goal. Block, but I can get you four of them. You ever tackled anybody? Yeah, I'll play. I tackled. I hadn't tackled anybody since high school. Well, interception. But I played defense in high school. Son, you got to be tough to play. You got to play. Be tough, bruh. I try to make a squad. Tell me what you need me to do. Tell me what. Tell me what my job. Tell me my responsibility is once you tell me my responsibility. Oh, I'm gonna carry that out good. My brother. My brother used to tell me all the time, he said. He say, bro, you do everything that you do better than anybody else. Do what they do, and you'll be fine. So that was my. My singular focus, Ocho. I'm gonna do what I do better than anybody else. Do what they do.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's all. Hey, that's all it comes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's all it come down to. And. But I lost Ocho. I had lost contact with him for like, man, for like, eight. For, like, eight years. And then all of a sudden, he called the Broncos. They, a. They say some guy, the name Brian. Brian McPhatter, he tried to get in touch with. I say, oh, B. Matt. Yeah, I called him. I said, man, what the hell you being. You know, he went back and finished up school, and, you know, we. We stayed in contact, and we lost contact again. He hit me up. I think he called a Raven. It's like a. A Brian McFadder. I said, yeah. So I hit him up, brought him out to. To be more. And, you know, then when I went to the Hall, I said, hey, they. Jim Sakamano, who was. He's like, anybody that you need me to find. So him. He found him and found a couple of guys that I was trying to get in touch with. For the most part, the guys that came out, you know, I still knew where they were, tried to invite. I tried to get a touch of Albert Lewis, but I couldn't find him. But. Because he was the guy that made me who I am. But, guys, this is different. This is the NFL. This ain't high school where the coach going to take your ass in or this is college where they they get that ain't what they do at this level. I'm telling you. I ain't telling what somebody told me. I'm telling you what I know. Yeah.

[Big Lon]

What'S up y'?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All?

[Big Lon]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Ashley Reitveld]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Maybe the industry thinks that we just started skating five years ago because that's.

[Ashley Reitveld]

When they maybe started paying attention. It's a no fluff conversation about putting in the years, stacking clips and receipts and still having to prove your worth. While the industry catches up, you break.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Down the door step.

[Ashley Reitveld]

Sick now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like hold the door for everyone.

[Ashley Reitveld]

We created Good Luck with that because we want to share our experience existing in an industry that wasn't always built for everyone. So listen to Good Luck with that on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Hey, what's up everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks. If you love breaking down football from every angle, you're in the right place. Every week on Move the Six, Bucky Brooks and I dive deep into the game, from the X's and O's to the front office moves shaping the league.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We kick things off with Brian Baldinger breaking down what really went down on Sunday. It is as good a timing, rhythm, offense as there is in the league right now.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Then Rhett Lewis joins us for our rookie draft and coordinator of the week where we highlight the rising stars and the masterminds calling the shots. DJ talked me into a Ronde Gadsden Jr. He had a monster game. Monster.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A monster game. And you hear from the voices who actually build the game, GMs, coaches and players who give you insight you won't get anywhere else.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

High standards and high care. That's the right combination. So whether you're studying tape or just love great football talk, subscribe to Move the sticks on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Shannon Sharpe]

NFL owners have filed a grievance. Ocho. Against NFL PA to stop the annual report cards. Jets owner Woody Johnson called them totally bogus and was. And was the one behind it. Per espn. Johnson received an F grade from his players last year. He's received an upgrade every year. He has never got anything but F. Yeah, failure.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, when it, when it comes to those grades, who's the person doing it? Do they. Do they talk to the players?

[Shannon Sharpe]

They talk to the players. Okay, what is the training facility like? Okay. What's your training staff like? Okay, what's the X, Y and Z like? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? With the, the lounge area in the stadium, do you have to. Is there an area that. Is there somebody there to watch the kids? Do you have a daycare, things like that? You know, what's, what's the meal services like? Stuff like that, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, but that's a good thing. They need to keep that going. They need to keep that going. So everyone is aware. So players are aware. The NFLP is self aware of. On how these owners are conducting themselves and making sure that the environment and all the amenities for players are up to par. Yeah, I mean, ain't nothing wrong with that. And, and there is Woody complaining because he didn't got an F. Every guy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for sure.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You improve it. Yeah, not only matter of fact, maybe if you prove. Maybe if you prove the amenities and environment around, maybe your team will play better.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Maybe that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You never know. You got to start somewhere. Everything. Listen, when it comes to winning too long in life, you know, it started the very.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for sure.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It started the very top. And for some reason it just trickled down after that. If you're losing up top, everybody gonna lose.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right below YouTube for sure. We had to look. Obviously it's done. Gotten better now, Ocho, because you know, in the beginning there was no free agency. Our owners were cheap. They spent X amount of dollars. We used to have something, what they call plan B. Plan B was. It was. It was.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Hey, I didn't use a few of them too. Now. I didn't use the few of them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But this player B was what? Oh, you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, you talking about that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, my bad, my bad. I'm sure you have used some of those. Plan B. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know, look, something looks.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But this player B was like free agency before free agency. Well, what you could do is protect a certain number of players and the players that you couldn't protect, they were free. Somebody else could sign those players off Your roster. So that's what it was before we got the Reggie White settlement. We. Which granted free agency for everybody. And so. But I would. I couldn't have gave Mr. Bolan anything. But. Because when I got to Denver, that was the first year that they had moved down to the Paul D. Boland center down in Inglewood. So it was state. It was brand. It was brand spanking new. The grass fields were exemplary. The bubble was horse crap. But other than that. And what do you expect somebody. I mean, you expect to get, like, mashed potatoes. Ocho, you gotta get something. You got to give you some. Eat something light because you got to go practice in an hour. How you gonna eat steak or potatoes and turkey and.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Come on, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cold cuts. And like I said, we lost. They cut that out. I like a good joke. We eating high on the hog. Eating good, but you playing terrible. Nah, but. And now they getting ready to build a new stadium in Denver. They just. Yeah, man, they probably don't spend. Since the Rob done took over and the Pinners. Ocho, they probably done spent maybe a hundred million upgrading the facilities. I'm talking. I'm talking about every. I'm talking about hyperbaric chambers. I'm talking about red light saunas. I'm talking about. Hey, trios. I'm talking about. Oh, I'm talking. You name it. I'm talking about. Wait, hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The fact that you said that for some reason, and I probably all 32 teams are like that, too. Especially now that it's been so long.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. Everybody like that. No. Hell no.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Unc, man, I went. I went inside the bangle facility.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That old dated ass. Ish.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No. Hey, listen, they don't put some money in that thing. Everything you just named the. The. The. The. The red. The sauna. The. The. No, it's. It's unbelievable. I'm like, well, when the hell they did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, it. They done knock. They didn't knock everything down and built some all the way. No, it's. It's the hyperbaric chambers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What's the red thing? What's the red thing? You just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, Red light therapy now. They saw those. Yes. Got all that, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They got a bunch of them lined.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm like, oh, they got full kitchens. Same weight room. All if y' all had. They got the Lincoln and all. These all look like an anatomy chart. Shredded like a Trump tax return.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And they got the juice bar. Yeah, the juice bar. When they come out. What. What. What. What kind of shake you want?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, yes. They'll have them ready for you. If you tell them, Ocho, when you come off the field, they'll have your shape with your name on it. You just grab your shake and go.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, that's, that's crazy, man. That's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They cooking breakfast. Breakfast, lunch and dinner.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Dinner and dinner. Yep. Yeah, they got, they got them, they got, they got, they got them right, boys?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right now, Ocho ain't nobody. Lord have mercy. Mama, Mama. I like my situation, Mama, you know, Lord, I, I, but I'm just saying, I just need to be 10. I need to be about 15 years. Hold up. 15 years? Damn. I still been retired. Hey, I say 15 years old, try to still be retired. Hell, I'm 42. I still been retired. Damn. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I think about it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I did, Bob. You did. Hey, Mama said, mama. Mama had me at 25. My mama had a last kid at like almost 26. Mama said, I'm done, I'm done done. Had a first with an 18, last with it. Yeah, don't found a first one at 17.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So, hey, even, even with all the nutritionists and, and all the, you know, amenities and resources and all this stuff they got going on, I probably wouldn't have done none of this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I would have. Boy, you know how much money you could have saved?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Wait, no, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you talking about the food? You would, oh, oh, I'm do, I'm doing all that. They got massage therapists, they got pts. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I ain't, I ain't even do nothing. I can tell you how many times I played 11, 12 years. I probably got a massage twice. I probably got a massage twice. I mean, I, I don't, I don't know what it was about me. I, I, I took care of my body because when it's time to work, boy, I'm going crazy. But all that physical therapy and getting stressed and, and them pushing on you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not, hey, hell, hey, on Mondays you got a 30, you got a 30 minute rub. You got a 30 minute massage for free. We started losing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They took that out of here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I didn't see them no more. I ain't still no more, Ocho. But I got, I got a massage. I got a massage twice. Twice, twice a week for, yeah, I don't know, probably till 20, 22.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And they listen ta when TJ was there, TJ always going to get a massage, always taking care of his body, doing all this stuff. Hey, hey, O.J. why don't you come get Say, man, T, you know I'm not doing that, man. I'M going home, man. I'm going home. After practice we go watch film. We go watch practice, man, I'm outta here. They going to stretch and do all this extra stuff, man, I'm gone. Tio was there, man. This man, Tio was ridiculous. He was a madman when it came to taking care of his body. I'm saying, man, why is you on that goddamn phone thing?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The little phone, that phone roller breaking up that fashion, what he doing?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm like, T, man, that junk don't do nothing, man. Man, we ain't even out to practice yet. He in the locker room rolling, man. I'm, I'm sitting there, earphones on, ready to go, full practice, ready to go to practice. I'm out there. We in the stretch line. I ain't even stretching. I'm talking the whole time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm, I'm so, so stretching. But that's the time to talk, man. Who did what? Yeah, that's, that's the gossip time. Ocho. Ocho, former Dolphins long snapper tweeted. The report cards have been a catalyst for incredible change within some organizations. The ability to be open to feedback and make changes for the better is something that I have ton of respect for. Firsthand example during my time in Miami. One of the first few report cards reveal an opportunity for growth when it came to family care on game day. The next year was game day care for players families on game day, staff members dedicated to making sure players family were well cared for and access to an air conditioned space where family with young kids can get a reprieve from the heat. Bottom line, if, if you don't like the score, there's a choice you can make. See, you know, if you don't want your laundry out there, you don't want that, but you don't want that report card on Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right. But you got, you gotta, you think, you got to think about how the owners look at it too. Now you gotta think about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's them.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Listen, this facility, this facility and these amenities and these resources but we paying you 20, 30, 10, $15 million, whatever it may be. Now, now you want, you want us to take care of your family too. You want, you want us to make sure all them good. I'm just telling you how they thinking now. We got to over more money outside of what we already paying you to make sure everybody. Nah, see I'm just, I'm just saying how they probably.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, but that's the thing you Ocho, if, if, when Restaurants, do they get grades? Oh, absolutely. Why would they give them a grade, Ocho?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, listen, they'll let people know, do you need to eat?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's why they give these. These owners agree and organizations agree to let them know what they need to change and do better.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. But the funny thing about this is these owners, you know, whether you engrave the A's or F's, when it's time for that contract, and if they paying you, you know, you're going, You. You. You going now. It's. It's a bad look for them because they don't want that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, exactly.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That stain on that stand on their franchise. So they might want to clean it up. They. So the grades are a good thing to force owners to clean up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Some things that it would probably ignore in other cases.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Some things that, you know, hey, maybe like. Like. Like the Snapper said, you know, you know, child care for, you know, on game day, an area that, you know, in Miami, it gets hot. I'm sure you don't want no four or five, six year old sitting out there in that beaming hot sun in South Florida and. And. And July, August, September.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, absolutely not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And in Denver, you don't want no kid in that cold. You mean you like, you want to go to the game and then all of a sudden take his kid in the.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

In the area and afraid the first thing I. Owners say, well, we pay you enough money. Leave your kid at home with a nanny whether it's hot or whether it's cold. That's how.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, but some teams provide that, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, they do. They do. I know what you're talking about. Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

[Big Lon]

What's up, y'?

[Shannon Sharpe]

All?

[Big Lon]

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[Diet Coke Narrator]

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[Ashley Reitveld]

If one of us wins, would we all win? I'm Ashley Reitveld and I'm the host of the women's skateboarding podcast Good Luck with that. Good Luck with that is a skateboarding podcast that is part cultural record, part news brief. Mostly group therapy and a place to talk about the past, present and future of women and gender. Expansive skateboarding this week, me and my co hosts Nora Vasconcelos and Alex White. We have Fabiana Delfino on the show, a professional skateboarder from Florida whose grit was forged in a family of athletes. Tune in to hear how she broke into the boys club, what it takes to be pro, and why just being grateful you're here shouldn't be the price of entry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Maybe the industry thinks that we just started skating five years ago cuz that's.

[Ashley Reitveld]

When they maybe started paying attention. It's a no fluff conversation about putting in the years, stacking clips and receipts and still having to prove your worth. While the industry catches up, you break.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Down the door sick now like hold the door for everyone.

[Ashley Reitveld]

We created Good Luck with that because we want to share our experience existing in an industry that wasn't always built for everyone. So listen to Good Luck with that on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Hey, what's up everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks. If you love breaking down football from every angle. You're in the right place. Every week on Move the Six, Bucky Brooks and I dive deep into the game, from the X's and O's to the front office move moves shaping the league.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We kick things off with Brian Balinger breaking down what really went down on Sunday. It is as good a timing, rhythm offense as there is in the league right now.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Then Rhett Lewis joins us for our rookie draft and coordinator of the week where we highlight the rising stars and the masterminds calling the shots. DJ talked me into a Ronde Gadsden Jr. He had a monster game. Monster.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A monster game. And you hear from the voices who actually build the game. GMs, coaches and players who give you insight you won't get anywhere else.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

High standards and high care. That's the right combination. So whether you're studying tape or just love great football talk, subscribe to Move the sticks on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey y', all, it's me, your man, M.G. marcus Grant. And I'm Michael F. Florio. And I'm Laquan Jones. If you're looking to win your fantasy football league, you need to tune in to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. It's right there in the name. Every week, Florio, LQ and I bring you the latest news from around the league. We break down every matchup, give you our analysis and advice so you know who to start, sit, drop and trade to bring that championship trophy home.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I just want to remind everyone how good Rasheed Rice was last season and there's three healthy games.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was the wide receiver, two in fantasy.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I think Rasheed Rice just goes off this week.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Chiefs come on a flip pass to Rice near side touch.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Remindre Stevens is my sleeper this week. This is a matchup where I think I can slide in Stevenson in my.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Flex position and he could deliver double digit points this week. Drake takes the snap, hands it off for Madre. Running it right and running into the end zone. Touchdown. It's never too late to turn your fantasy season around. Subscribe to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Uh, the media was pretty was pretty sure Paul Podesta just took a shot at Kevin Stefanski in his first press conference with the Rockets. The reporter asked a question. You received a lot of blame for the Deshaun Watson trade that was objectively a failure. How can you be assured that you won't do Something like that again here in Colorado. Deep Podesta said, you know, I was also calling the plays for the Browns. Ha ha ha. Then he went on to say, those are organizational decisions. Those are done collaboratively with a lot of people on board. He ain't lying. Guess who had to sign off on that? That owner, mister.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Mr. Has.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jimmy Haslam. Jimmy and D. Yeah, because everything that goes out is D and Jimmy Haslam. So D and Jimmy signed off on it. Okay. Yeah, we get an opportunity. Look, we get an opportunity to get what we think is a franchise quarterback back. That's what we got. That's what we think. That's an opportunity. No quarterback, no franchise quarterback had ever become available at 26 years of age. Would not. Peyton Manning came available because what the doctors only gave him a 10, 15 chance to ever be. To be able. He ends up winning an mvp, winning a Super Bowl. Drew Brees became available because what his shoulder was almost tore off the bone. Tom Brady became available. Tom Brady was 40 years old. 41. 40. 41 years of age. So no quarterback, no franchise quarterback had ever become available with no injury history at 26 years of age. Now, obviously, there are some things that came out, but they knew that. They said, okay, yeah, but we still believe this is the guy we finally, after all these years, basically since Otto Graham. I mean, look, Bernie was good for a period of time, and even Tester Verde had some good years, but basically we got to go back to Auto Graham to have a consistency at that position, and we got him, and he's 26 years of age. It didn't work. Oh, Joe. It didn't work. Whatever reason was. Maybe it was that. Maybe it was a situation. He got hurt. Yo, Joe, you remember he missed the first of all. He didn't play that last year in Houston, and he missed the first 11 games. So basically he went two years.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Without playing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Then he gets hurt. Then he. He turns. Hurts his shoulder. Then he tears his Achilles. So I don't begrudge them for trying to get a franchise quarterback. And they believe they had one was available, and they believe they had it. Yes, it had. It didn't work. But everybody wants to put. Just like that. Nico. Everybody wants to put. Wants to put that on. Nico.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nico. No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Dumont, he could have said no.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, you sure could.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But guess what he did. He nodded yes and he meant no.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, the funny thing about it is I. I still, for the life of me, I can't understand what Nico Collin can go and tell Dumont that would agree him to say he really didn't want to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

First of all, he really didn't want to play because he see where this thing, he see where these salaries are going. So you give Luca. So guess What? You give Luca 345. Guess what his next contract gives Ocho?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What? Buy some.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's gonna be the first. He's gonna be the first player to make $80 million a year. With his next contract, which would be around in 28, he'll be able to sign a five year extension. Now think about it now, in 28, he only be 28, 29 years of age.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's crazy. Yes, that's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So the they, they, they, they are, are like really, they really. Like, like 345. Okay, that's one player. How do we build a team? Well, we got Anthony Davis, we got another. We got him on the hook for three years at like 150. We got Kyrie Reebuck on the books.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, it's not, it's not the same though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know, but I'm saying he's looking at it like I've gotta pay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. From that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that's how he's looking at it. Because at the end of the Ocho, at the end of the day, it's still about making. It's still about. I look at the. As a business. I'm trying to. I'm trying. It ain't how much it is, that's how much you keep.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So they're like, oh, I understand it takes money to make money, but I want to spend as little money as I possibly can while making as much as I possibly can. Mm, yeah, he did take a shot. Oh, Cho. Justin Jefferson says he wants to get back to Savage and effort mode from 2023. Let's take a listen to what Jetta had to say.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I only can control the things that I can control. And personally, mentally just wanting to get back into that mode, into, I like to say savage mode. So I mean, it's just going out there with that effort mentality and just going out there and just killing it and not worrying about the plays, not worrying about anything else that I just, like you said, can't control. Just doing everything that I can control and making the most of the my opportunities. Why do you think you haven't been.

[Shannon Sharpe]

In that mode if you have.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Life, you know, just different things going on in my life and just wanting to get back to that, that kid phase of loving. I still love football, but overly loving football and overly loving just Being out there on Sundays and making the big plays and just being a part of this great organization. So I just wanted to get back mentally into that. Into that. Into that mode.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Long story short, my quarterback suck here. Y' all see it. But I'm gonna be polite. I'm gonna make. I'm gonna put it on me and not throw them guys under the bus. But my quarterback.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Suck rhinoceros bone. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, I. I like. I like that. I like the angle he taking to with it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I thought you like everything similar to you like truth.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Hey. Yes, yes. Hold on, hold on. I'm with you when I'm with you, right? But I. I don't like some of. Some of the comments Justin been saying lately. Everything he's been saying has been real. Real politically correct. I don't like that. I need. I need that dog. I need that dog. Justin. Justin Jefferson. I need that. I need that Justin Jefferson out the boot. I need that Justin Jefferson, you know, that had the grill in his mouth. You know that when he sco. He hit that. He hit that thing, you know. You know, I need that Justin Jefferson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He's. He's. He's. He's. To me in a little bit, because now he's a leader. Because now he's. I'm assuming he's probably a captain as well. It. It. Some of that. That edge that made him Him. That made him special. Top two in the league is. Is going a little bit. I don't care if the. I don't care if the goddamn Pope was a quarterback. When it comes to a player like Justin Jefferson, when 18 is out there, man, ain't nothing stopping that. Nothing.

[Ashley Reitveld]

And.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And I. I think a little bit of that has gotten away from him. Worried about everything else around him that he came from. You wanted a few players. Regardless of what's around you, you gonna get the job done, which is why you're paid a hefty goddamn ransom, because you one of the few that can do that. So I wanted to. I wanted to get back to that. I don't even know how to do the move. I'm too.

[Ashley Reitveld]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think the thing is, Ocho, is that he realized how much he gonna miss first cousins. He said, well, damn. Oh, yeah. Sam Darling ain't that bad. Hey, I got Sam D. Yeah. Now y' all want me to put up the same type of numbers and y' all keep. Now, come on, now. You want me to make. You want me to make a Kobe a 5? Dang. What you giving me now, hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. This, this is the thing now. This is. This is the thing now. Sam Darnold, Matthew Stafford. But it comes down to the play call.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

To me. I don't care who throwing the ball. J.J. mcCarthy. Carson wins. Put. Just. You can't cover him. You can't cover him because you can move. You can move players around if you want to get them the ball. We seen Sean McVeigh's offense do it. We saw Mike. Mike McDonald do it. Now with JSN over there and goddamn Seattle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you a question. You think JSN doing that with Sam, He. Let me ask you a question. Honestly. You think he doing that with Carson, Winston, J.J. mcCarthy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Different type of offense.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's really the west coast offense. It's really the same offense. I mean, if you, if you think about Ocho at the same. Those numbers that he's putting up, you got to have somebody really good pulling the trigger. Yeah, and Wentz played okay, but, And, And Jetta had. But he going through this thing. And until you get a quarterback that's consistent, right? O.J. you know how this thing is, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. You ain't got to tell me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You ain't gotta. You ain't gotta tell me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You probably have. How many quarterbacks you have. You have Fitz, you had Carson. Did you have anybody else in Cincinnati?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Scott. Scott Mitchell, John Kitner, Gus Farat, and. Yeah, that. That was it. But listen, I, I, I, I acted a fool with every last one of them. Every lab acted a fool.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who you go to the Pro bowl with? Carson.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Carson, Kitna. Yep. Scott. We had Scott Mitchell. Did I say.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You said Scott Mitchell. Gus Farrakhan.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was them some days. But, I mean, there's certain players. You know them Tier one receivers. Boy, I don't care, man. No matter who at quarterback, boy, I'm gonna be open, boy, Period.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Call.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Call my number. I'm gonna be there for you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, check this out. In the wake of the highly publicized sports gambling scandal that have impacted NBA, MLB and NFL is working on implementing new policies in order to curb such risk in its own game. The league sent out memos today indicating that it had begun actively engaging with state lawmakers and NFL sports betting partners to limit or potential outright ban prop bet. Come on, man. Ocho, you think this is a smart move? I mean, Ocho, I want to bet if I want to bet that. If I want to bet Chase, if it gonna get. It gonna have 95 yards. Let me do that. If you gonna have 10 catching, let me do that. You take it. So now I just got a bet. Win, lose, over, under. Yeah, hell no.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's. Listen, it's unfortunate. It's not gonna change now. They, they, they've already implemented. They, they're go. They're going to enforce it, and that's just what it is. Now we just have to. Is it making the game safer for those that are playing, for those that are actually, you know, that, that are actually gambling? Maybe it might work, it might not. I think those that love to gamble and, and have an urge and, and are enthusiasts and, and love the rut, the adrenaline and rush that it brings, they still gonna do it. They gonna find a way to do it. They're gonna find a way to do it every time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, but at that point in time, oh, you all you can bet is the over under the, the prop business. Ocho, it's the props that really get people into it, right? Because now I got this big old parlay. I got this fall. I got this 40, 50 parlay that I put 20 on. This thing might pay off about a meal too.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, it, it might, but not no more.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Dangle Banner. They just saying that they're trying to scare us. Hell yeah. They ain't gonna do it. They like, they spent. They like the sports betting partners.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, listen, that would, that, that would take, that would take a lot away from it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

If they do, if they do do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That, Shiloh Sanders is going viral for only leaving a 50 tip. Ocho, watch this. All right, thank you very much. No, I'm not tip nothing. I'm gonna put a negative tip where you have to pay me.

[Diet Coke Narrator]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right. A 50 tip for being mean today.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Thank you very much. I'm gonna post it on YouTube. I say cheap ass football player. Give me 15.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Geez, that's good. I forgot this is Vegas.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Thank you.

[Ashley Reitveld]

Thank you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Appreciate it. Ocho culture got out of control now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, not, not really. I, I, I, I like to consider myself the one that, that, that sets some of the standard for, for some of us that, that, that have the means to, to be able to bless those who work in the service industry. I make it a, a point to, to, to over tip tremendously.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, over tip me 5900. 5950. Since you like to over.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hold on, hold on. I like, I love to take care of my people in the service industry no matter where I go. I think they, they love to See me walking through the door, and I. That's. That's just me. That's just me. You know, I'm. God love the cheerful giver. I don't do it for that reason, but that's just something I've always done. I think $50 is good. I think 50 is good. I don't know how much the bill. The bill came to, but knowing that if based on the percentage that they say you're supposed to tip, I guarantee you 150.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So I. I think. I think he tipped well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho. Now, a lot of times you go to places, the tip, the gratuity is already included.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, most of the time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, when they bring you room service, the service charge is already included. And they think. And they got tip. Okay, I got a tip for you. Don't eat egg salad and ride the bus. Please don't. Cause I ain't got nothing for you. Yeah, Ocho. How if I go to. How do I go to self checkout? And they talk about tip? I want to know. Tell me that. Okay? Answer me that. Oo. I'm checking myself out and you want me to leave a tip? Okay, I call and get takeout. You want. What did you do? All you do is ringing up my order and you want a tip? Man, y' all better get out my face. Give me my.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

See you. Hey. Yeah, you. You're a little different. You're a little. You're different. You're a little different. You know, I don't care how service is, whether. Whether you might be having a bad day. I understand all the.

[Big Lon]

All the.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The attitudes you have to deal with, all the personalities you have to deal with. So when I. When I come in, I always want to be kind to whoever my waiter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna be kind.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, I. I know what you mean. I'm just saying sometimes they. You. They be having a bad day, you don't know what they've been through. You don't know what they're going through. So I always make it an effort. I always make an effort, no matter how much my bill is. And you. I mean, people that follow me over the years, you know, it could be $20, it could be $50, it could be $100. I'm always tipping a thousand dollars wherever I'm at, whether it be ihop, you know, whether. I mean. I mean. I mean, this. This is. This has been routine for me for the past 15 years.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Guess what? Oo. So, I mean, I might have had a bad day. Do you know what I had to do to get this money that I got?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right, right, right, right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you were.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You work your ass off. Yeah, you did, you did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. I tip, you know, mainly probably about 30. I'm normally 30%. That's. I'm 30%.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's good. You know, good car come. You know, normally I, you know, 40, $50 for, you know, valet, man. But the thing is, I mean. But now, Ocho, it's like the. The. The tip gratuity, whatever you want to call it, it. Service charge is already added, so you want. So you want 18 service charge and a tip on top of it. Man, y' all do. They doing too much, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I. I like it. I like it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. What happened. Hold on. Oo. What happened to 10%? Now? They don't even start at 10%. They started 15. 18. They want 15, 18, 22, 25.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, you got to understand. You got to understand, right? When you think about the service industry, right? They rely on these tips. They rely on these tips, Ocho. They realize they need that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I understand that. And you can't take a. I get it. That they rely on these tips, but they chose that. It's like, you know, they don't pay anything in teaching, you know, that going into it, you can't take a job and then complain about the pay when you knew the pay was subpar to begin with. Right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But. But that. That's very. That's very hard also, Uncle. You have to. You have to think about the American people and how difficult it is to get a job sometimes. You. You.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You get a degree in a certain. In a certain profession, and it's hard to get, you know, a job in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

In. In.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

In. In in what you graduated with and what you study 4 years to be in. Sometimes you just can't crack to make a living, and sometimes you have to go, you know, work in the service industry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't have a problem. I don't have no problem with that, Ocho, but you can.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I know. I know you don't. I know you don't. But. But I take. I take all of that into account when I go to restaurants at. At times. So that's why I over tip and always tip, you know, a thousand, sometime 500, you know, just to make sure. You know what? I don't. I don't know what's going on in your life, but I know one thing. When I leave here today, you going to be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Guess what? You know what? They know that most of the time When I go someplace, people, they know me. They know what's going on in my life. They say, Mr. Shark, we gonna tip you. Here, $25 for you, Mr. Shar. You. You think they gonna do that? That what? I think they gonna do that for me. Since they know about. Since they know my struggle. They know my struggle. They gonna break your boy off. Don't even worry about it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We gonna cover this bill for you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, and I. I see some people talk about, oo, stop the cap. Do me a favor. Like, if you in the chat right now, go on Google. Go. All you do is just go on Google and. And type in Ocho Cinco tips.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They all pop up there. Hell, I tip. Matter of fact, remember, I tipped them people $5,000 that time. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Chad, y' all see this. This man?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, I'm not. No, I'm not. No, no, no, I'm not. I'm not playing. I'm just saying that. That one time, like, I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was in a good spirit. I was in the giving spirit. That person was having a bad day. Somebody had just passed away. They had just had a child, and I'm like, what? What? Damn. That. All that's going on, and they crying. I'm like, well, God damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Like, they. They made me. I was tearing up, so I was like, you know, I'm. I ain't even say nothing. I just. I just wrote it down there, and I walked out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm not Ocho. I'm not. If I order takeout, I'm not f. To go up there, give you my credit card, and give you a tip, right. For ringing up my order. If I'm at a restaurant and they bring me my meal or they. You know, I'm not constantly having to ask for things. I'm. I think 30% is a good as a tip amount, because normally I'm going almost. I'm spending 2, 3, $400.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

God damn. So with that being said, that's why you don't want. That's why you don't want to tip.

[Diet Coke Narrator]

You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You spend it. That's why I don't eat. I don't eat at those kind of restaurants where my meals cost that much.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I'm taking. I'm taking my kids out. I'm taking my family out. So that's. That's what I'm saying. I ain't got no problem tipping, but I'm not fitting to tip you. I come in and pick my order Up. All you do is ring it up and you think I'm about to give you 20, $30. No, I'm not.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, okay, my bad, my bad, my bad, my bad. See, See, you eat at nice places. I eat at Bahama Breeze. I eat at Longhorn with the kids. I go to ihop. So the places I'm going, my meals are never over 50, $50, which is why I'm. I'm so willing to go large like I normally do, you know, So, I mean, but I. I get it. I get. I understand. We. We just different. We just different in that area.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, no, I don't. I don't have no problem tipping. Like I said, I'm normally. No matter what valet is, if it's 20, I'm. I normally give 40, 50 for valet. That's. That's just standard. Hey, here you go, bro. But no, man, this. They don't got. They getting out of hand with this, Ocho. They getting out of hand. I mean, now you got self checkout and they want a tip, right? Who getting the money? The computer had a bad day too. Oh, he. I guess he got. I guess he got a few little microchips when he get home.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Ocho, I tell you what they having bad. The restaurant should put to fit the bill. Say, you know what? I know the standard deals, like $7 an hour, $10 an hour. We're gonna pay y' all 25 an hour. We're gonna pay Y' all $30 an hour. It shouldn't be. It shouldn't be on the consumer.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, you. You're right. You're right. And we're. We're the only. I think maybe if I'm not mistaken, we're the only place where. Where most of the people in the service industry, they don't make a livable wage.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whether they're the only one that don't make a livable way. There are a lot of more folks that don't make a livable living way.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you right, you're right, you're right, you're right. But. But some of those other industries where those people work, there's nowhere you. Where you can tip them. Teachers.

[Big Lon]

Teachers.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Teachers are severely underpaid. Yeah, they are severely underpaid. It's. It's ridiculous. Especially what they do and what they have to deal with, especially the kids these days.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, for sure. Oh, my. Oh, look, the school system is turning all. It turned into, for the most part of the daycare, so parents can go to Work kids be bad as a mofo if you, if you. If your kid's bad at home. And you know, if your kid bad people like. Oh, that don't. I am shocked. I am appalled. Well, I'm a David. Your kid bad. And you said it's badass for me to have to deal with for, for what? What? Kids go to school from 8 to 3, 8 to 2. You couldn't wait to drop him off. He's sick. Leave his sick ass. Stay your ass home and stay with him. Bring his sick ass to school to get everybody else sick.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, man, listen, if your kid is bad at home, you already know it when they get to school.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It used to be. Look, I don't know. I mean, every. There. There was kid. Look, I'm not gonna sit here and say the kids didn't, didn't, didn't misbehave. But they kid now they getting out of control. They're getting out of kids getting out of control, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And hey, they putting their hands. They putting their hands on teachers. They talking back. They doing all types of stuff, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I thought that's at home. I'm. I, I fought that at home. Ain't no. Ain't no way a kid behaved like that. You the kid behave. He bad at home. She bad at home.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause ain't no way Mary Porter would have sent me the act of the fool because I don't. I don't got my tail toe up before going to school. So I'm gonna be on my best behavior because they must run and call. Call Mary Porter. Then you gonna get it again. Get before school and after school. Oh, no, after.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

At the school. Boy. But if they call Bessie May. Hold on. If they call Bessie May Flowers and she got to leave the school where she at to come to my school.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna take the phone out the hook. I get home and take the phone out the hook.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Like my grandma say, wherever you show out, that's exactly where you get woe out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You want to show off in class, I'm a whoop your ass in class.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I take the phone out the hook. Who don't tell who left this phone off the hook. I don't know. They'd be a school calling.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It'd be busy as hell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah. You gotta be the caller here. Me no live here. Like I said, I don't have a problem tipping. I tip anybody that's ever waited on, served me or, or I've gone places I tip. I do. I ain't got no problem tipping. Hey, every. I leave the hotel ocho, I leave 30, 40 inside the bed, clean. They come in, turn down service. I give them 30, 40. I bring extra. A little extra cash, because if I'm on the road for. For to clean my room, hey, boom, they gonna leave a couple extra balls of water. You need extra towels, face, clothes, something like that. Okay, cool. I ain't got no problem. I don't have a problem tipping. Well, I. I think y' all know that last night, I mean, Joe had his thing, and I was like, out the. Out the muscle. And you see, he already tweeted because it. It's already done. So I ain't got no problem helping, but. Nah, man, they. They, they. They. They just trying to do too much, man. Been trying to do too much. Somebody talking about cheap. I just gave Joe 10 grand last night. Y' all talking about, oh, cheap.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What, dad, you gave Joe ten grand? Why you. Why you you hopping on me about that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know I gave your ten grand. You were supposed to match it. We were supposed to feed 500 people in Atlanta.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, you. You.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You. How you just gonna throwing them out there for me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't know what I got you. You tipping. You talk about, oh, we gonna tip. We gonna tip. $1,000. We go. You spend my. You trying to spend my money on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

A thousand dollars and 10,000? That's two. That's two. Totally. I got 37 goddamn kids. You talking about. Just give 10. 10,000 away? I got kids they got to feed. Christmas coming up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You just tilt something. You just tilt somebody. You just tilt one person. 5, 1500. 5,000. I just fed 250 people.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, I. I. I fed. I fed 25 people. I'm surprised. Why'd Joey tweet about me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

$40. You said $40.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah, nah, I sent. What, baby? I think. I think she sent 2,000. Yeah, we know we gonna feed all of them. We ain't gonna feed that many.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey. Hello. How many? 2,000. Fe. What was it, 50? 150. 50.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, that's. That's a good number. That's a good number.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Should spend 250. I thought. I thought we gonna feed 500 unocho nightcap. Feed 500 home family. Yeah. Everybody like, yes. Yeah, Yeah. I.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I. I fed 50, man. Jesus. Jesus. Hey, Jesus had a fish and two loaves of bread.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He fed 5,000, though.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, well, I. I ain't got that guy. No, no, no. Two loaves of bread and some fish. Hey, God, God, God. God loves the chill. Forgiver. Hey, hey, you. Hey, hey, hey, what's the preacher. What's the preacher that locked the door say you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Now they talk about, hey, Lord told me somebody go, hey, 21 people go give me a thousand dollars today. So you ask him, hey, where they get that money from? That's what you need to have. Because that ain't me. Because, hey, they pass that pan around, you gonna think about the game, Ocho the wave. Yeah. Gonna pass on through every time they come.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, you know, you know, you know God don't like no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

God don't like noise.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Don't put no change in there. God don't like noise.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But look, I got. Like I said, I ain't got no problem tipping, but you know, they getting out of hand. They trying to sneak it in there, Ocho. It's already in the bill, and they put it down. That tip, bro, you already don't charge 18. And then you're gonna talk about, you want to leave 10, you want to leave 15, 18, 22, 25, 28, 30.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And you know, they go, they gonna write thank you with a little heart and a little smile and a little smiley face. Yeah, I don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just draw one back with a frown. Hey, hey. That's all I got for you, Ocho. Like I said, I ain't got no problem. But, hey, they. They doing too much now. They just think. Everybody just. Just stand there and just. I guess. I guess we supposed to greeters and cedars. Somebody walking. I guess somebody. You supposed to pay somebody, do they. You supposed to tip when they walk you to your seat, your table?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, everybody. Everybody need a tip?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. Hell no. All right, we're gonna get you out of here on this one. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for q&A.TS Car Wash& detail service. Oh, what is something that your grandpa told you that stood out with you for the whole life, that same for you, Ocho, and his grandma. Ocho, you want to go first?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Something that my grandmother and grandfather always told me, I think my favorite saying, my favorite saying, which is one of the reasons why I am as. As. As financially conscious as I've always been. Which is why I probably not a statistic being, I think maybe 87 or 80, almost damn near 90% of us, you know, go broke two years after we removed from the game of football. And I. I learned at an early age and. And having financial discipline. And my grandma always told me and my grandfather as well, a fool in his money shall soon part ways. Especially when you don't, when you don't move right when, when money and, and, and image becomes your identity and you get lost, you get lost in, in, in. In trying to lick, trying in, in trying to look rich, you know, And I, I think I was, I was, I was really good at understanding that the value was not anything I could purchase. It was me and myself and my name alone was the true value. And, and it just didn't make sense in, in taking my money and, and making somebody else rich to prove to others that I got money. It just. It just didn't make sense to me. And so that, that, that, that one little phrase that, that stuck with me forever and still to this day.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I think the thing that he said, never mistake habit for hard work. So just cause you do something over and over don't mean you working hard. And the, the analogy I like to use is people go to the gym. Man, I go to the gym every day. You look the same. So that's a habit. You ain't working hard. And I make sure whatever I do, I'm working hard. Tino Davis say, is it fair to label Justin Fields a bust? It's hard to say a guy that came from his situation that made it to the NFL, but the expectations, he has not met expectations.

[Ashley Reitveld]

And.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you know, I think the thing is, Ocho, is that when you look at professional athletes, everybody ain't gonna. Everybody ain't gonna pay it out. They make it seem like every restaurant that open. So if a restaurant, if a restaurant is open. So I've seen restaurants, Dantana's in Atlanta. It's been a staple. It's closing. So is it a failure? Restaurants stay open for 10 years and close is a failure. So I just wanted. So I'm just trying to. How do we judge it, right? Everybody is not going to be Brady Manning or. I don't care. Everybody's not going to. Everybody's not going to have that level of success or, or have the level of success that we thought they would had or have or maybe they even thought they would have. Right? And I, I just think for me, just watching him and watching him over the years, I just don't know if he's ever going to be what we thought he would be. T.J. my Patriots are back. 9 and 2 on the dirty. On to the dirty Tigers. Oh, they're gonna put some on y'.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ah, they gonna put some on y'.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Gonzalez, Gonzalez, wait, hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, wait.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know what? That mean. That mean the bangle. The Bengals play the Patriots, then they play the Dolphins.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's over for y'. All. It's over. The Patriots, that defense.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Listen to me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's over now. And y' all quarterback not mobile, so your quarterback not gonna be able to get away from like. Like a.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's fine. That's fine. Hey, we, you know, we open up the game with the quick game. We open up the game, the quick game. And. And Gonzalez gonna have his hands full.

[Shannon Sharpe]

With t. Or you know what? Gonzalez going. You know what? Godzale is going.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, okay. He gonna have. You gonna have a long day.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. Not as long as y'.

[Diet Coke Narrator]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Eli very to the Falcons would have fed families with the talent on that team. I think Raheem is gone if they lose to the Panthers on Sunday. I think you're right. After the season, though. Tino Davis. Oo, you know how I told y' all my uncle passed on Saturday? I'm bearing my uncle in a custom jersey with y' all number team colors. Keep being amazing. Tino, man, thank you, man. We're sorry so hard. So sorry to hear about the passing of your uncle, man. But thank you so much for your support. God bless and stay up, man. I appreciate that, man. That means a lot to us. Edie, I just think Justin had potential, but is currently scared mentally and emotionally. Watch his rookie year versus the last couple of years. He's broken his mind, but he has shown he has the ability. His first two years Bears broke him completely. Well, look, he's shown flashes. You see flashes, Ocho, you saw the cup, the comeback that he had against Cincinnati. Cincinnati.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh. Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So we. We've seen flashes, but we see. We don't see enough. We see more things that cause you like damn. Than things that we say. Oh, yeah. Okay, now we see more of the other versus the latter. So I just hope he can get it figured out. That's what I do. True and infamous. 73 Ironic. Mike Brable entered the Patriots dynasty in 2019 only to go there and rebuild it back again. Isn't that ironic? Don't you think.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That'S crazy?

[Shannon Sharpe]

General surrogacy. Peyton Manning is overrated. Just like Lamar Beast in the regular season, trash in the playoffs. Peyton gave his dad's team their first Super Bowl. Okay, you say it's overrated.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's your opinion.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Danny. Little John uncle no Joe Curry leaving Under Armour. What's your reaction? Surprised. Nike probably say, hey, you know what? We let this man get away. We ain't Gonna let him get away twice? Cause think about it. Jokic is with some. Yeah, but he, but he can grow. He can wear his own. He can wear. For the time being.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, he's. Yeah, I think Steph State. Steph said he gonna go independent. Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you gonna go independent.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, that's, that's what I saw. You gonna go independent? Unless Nike come in there with something crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay. Do your thing. Curry Trey. Hey, Organ Ocho, what's the most dominant quarterback in your guys era in your opinion?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, Brady, obviously. Especially my era.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I caught a lot of errors. I called Joe Montana. I was a Joe Elway, Marino, Brady Manning, Steve young, Brady, Brady 102. I only called Brady 1 1. One year they won 03. No, they want to know my last year they wanted two 03 because I retired in 04. So two years. And I remember playing Brady in, in 02. I'm like, damn, he won the Super Bowl. I didn't see it, man. The next year, my last year in Denver, man, I just threw a game winning touchdown on us with like 20 seconds, 30 seconds of the clock. I said, yeah, yeah, he, he good. He gonna be good.

[Big Lon]

Wow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh man. I'm going my quarterback 7. Quentin May. Should I start following these players wives for my parley feeling? Hashtag feelings, man. I guess I. I just think the thing is, I mean, people think, Ocho, you know, you play in the NFL and it's kind of like the college coach gonna pick you up or the high school coach pick you up or your junior high coach. It's not like that in pro. It's not?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's why a lot of times they have therapists. They need somebody to go talk to sports psychologists or whatever the case may be when it's going bad. They have somebody to talk to or they talk to a. A former culture. They talk to a former friend or someone to bounce things off of because. Because that ain't what the head coaches. And that's not what. Because they have so many other things going on. Trucking with Ease Sharp and Ocho the Goats Trucker with E. Appreciate that, man. Thank you for your support. Thanks for tuning in. Nicholas Jeffries, Uncle Nocho, Will you guys ever do an interview at the Breakfast Club with Charlemagne the God? Jess, DJ Envy? I think that would be a great. Sit down. Oh, you did one, didn't you?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, I, I did. I did one on behalf of hbcu. And, and hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How you went to hbcu? You ain't gonna go hbcu.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I represent one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm, I'm a great, I'm a great representative and ambassador for the highest of the seven hills, Florida A M. You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Went to Oregon State?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I was there Oregon State for two months.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You wasn't that. Oh, you wasn't at family.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I was, I was. Hey, listen, I was, I was at Oregon State.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How many, how many, how many months were you at fam?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I. Listen, I've been at FAMU since 1984. I, I, I've been a part of Famous. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1984. Been a rattler. Highest of the seven hills.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, would I, would, would I go sit down with Charlamagne, the God jazz dj? I would consider it. I gotta make the rounds. I gotta make the rounds at some point in time. I gotta, I got a couple of, I gotta pick a couple of people on my list. I'm gonna go sit down with. Yeah. Penn State is 32. Perfect way to start my birthday, watching my favorite Uncle Ocho. Could you guys please shout out my wife Amanda, who's the most amazing wife and mother that me and our kids could ask for. Absolutely. Amanda, happy birthday. Hubby says you're an amazing wife and an amazing mother. That is a great combination. Say, he couldn't ask for a better wife, a better partner, better companion. So happy birthday. Enjoy this day, this very, very special day, and many, many more to come. Thank you, Pan. Thank you for watching, bro. Appreciate you supporting us, tj. Love all. Y' all are amazing at everything y' all talk about. Keep up the good work. I just wanted to let you guys know, T.J. thank you, bro. I appreciate that. We love, we, we love hearing. Look, we know we're not perfect. We try to do the best we possibly can, but we appreciate support like that Viet Tran. Hey, Uncle Ocho. Cooper Cup. Coming back to play the Rams. I remember Peyton asked him his return to play his former team. But how was it for you when you played your former. When you played the Bengals? Did you play the Bengals, Ocho?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I played, I played the Broncos when I played the Broncos twice in the playoff game and the regular season won both. And then I played the Ravens. When I went back to Denver two times, it was.02. It's obviously, you know, the difference is you walk into a different locker room.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know. You know, you say your pleasantries and you get ready to do your business. I remember when I went back to Baltimore with Denver, they had a blueberry donuts waiting for me. When I went back to Denver, With Baltimore, they had blueberry donuts in my locker waiting for me, so. Oh, yeah, it was great. Jason Zeldorf. Lamar is overhyped and overrated. The day he gets a ring is the day the world ends. Well, look, I figured he got it. I, I, I give him at least a. I think he can still play at the level that he's playing at for another five, eight years. That'll put him at 16. It's hard for me to see him as good as he is.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That he want to get at least one. All he needs is one. He don't need. He don't need five. He don't need six, seven, like Brady or. Or he needs one. Br Carter. Oo. What's your Bahama Breeze order? I usually get the beef emp. What's that? Empanadas. What is that? Empanadas. No, I don't. That's why I'm asking.

[Ashley Reitveld]

It's like a filling with, like, a puff pastry around it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I never had it. Really?

[Ashley Reitveld]

Any sort of filling?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I ain't never heard of that, you know? Yeah, yeah, it's like that apple with, like, different kind of fillings. Oh, okay. You know what an empanada is? Oo.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I don't eat them either. I know what it is, but I, I don't eat them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Eat everything else, though, but. Okay, go ahead. So what's your order?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Oh. Oh, my. My meal, Bahama Breeze is jerk chicken pasta, small portion, no asparagus with extra chicken. A side order, Sweet plans and a Coke with no ice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't never been to Bahama Bahama Breeze, so ain't got no order. Yeah, Flair said it's not a question. Tidy request. Aocho. I'm Jamaican and I'm damn proud. 1. Please keep my country in your prayers, and we are still recovering love y'. All. Don't change this. It's special. Yes. Flair, appreciate you, man. To all our Jamaican fans out there, you know, we go back and forth, especially around the Olympics in the World Championship, but, you know, we hold you guys in a very, very, very high regard. Thank you for your support, and hopefully everybody is staying safe now. Sorry for your loss. Anybody that lost property or maybe a family friend or a loved one, but Nightcap is sending our thoughts and prayers to all those that were impacted by this terrible storm. So stay, Stay prayed up, and hopefully everybody's recovering very, very well. Flair, thank you, man. Thank you for your support. That concludes this episode of Nightcap as the New England Patriots run their record to nine and two and stay there's a top seed in the AOC east thanks to a 2714 victory. Drake May was 25 of 34, 2811 touchdown. Stefan Diggs had nine for a buckle five. He played extremely, extremely well as they take down the jets by the score of 2714. The jets fall to 2 and 8. Thank you. I'm your favorite uncle Shannon Sharp and my partner. That's Liberty City Zone. That's Bingo's Ring of Fame honoree, former Pro Bowler and an All Pro. That's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and guys, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you for your support and your continued support. Make sure you check out Shay by Laportier. You can head over to laportiercognac.com to grab you a bottle. If you can't find it in a state or city near you, just order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. Please drink responsibly. Stay safe. Make sure you check out my media company Shay by Shay Shay Media on all of his platforms and my clothing company, 84 with 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat again. The Patriots take down the jets by the score of 2714. The Patriots moved to 9 and 2. The Jets F2 and 8. I'm up. He's oo. We'll see you on Saturday after college football. Thank you guys for joining us. Stay safe out there. Greatness doesn't just show up, it's built. One shot, one choice, one moment at a time. From NBA champion Stephen Curry comes Shot Ready. A powerful, never before seen look at the mindset that changed the game.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I fell in love with the grind. You have to find joy in the.

[Big Lon]

Work you do when no one else is around. Success is not an accident.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm passing the ball to you. Let's go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Steph Curry redefined basketball. Now he's rewriting what it means to succeed. Shot Ready isn't just a memoir, it's a playbook for anyone chasing their potential. Discover stories, strategies and over 100 never before seen photos. Order shot ready now at stephencurrybook.com don't miss Stephen Curry's New York Times bestseller Shot Ready available now.

[Ashley Reitveld]

If one of us wins, would we all win? I'm Ashley Raifld, the host of the podcast. Good Luck with that. Good Luck with that is a skateboarding podcast about the past, present and future of women and gender. Expansive skateboarding. In our show, we'll talk with skaters like Bobby Delfino on pushing style, culture and the conversation forward. You break down the door sick now like hold the door for everyone.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I believe in that solely.

[Ashley Reitveld]

So listen to of. Good luck with that on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Big Lon]

What are the cycles fathers pass down that sons are left to heal? What if being a man wasn't about holding it all together, but learning how to let go? This is a space where men speak truth and find the power to heal and transform. I'm Mike De la Rocha. Welcome to Sacred Lessons. Listen to Sacred lessons on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Hey everybody. Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the Six, we take you inside the game. From breaking down college prospects and NFL.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Rookies to evaluating team building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

We study the team tape, talk to decision makers and give you a perspective you won't find anywhere else.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's everything you need to understand the why behind what happens on Sundays.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Sticks podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm Marcus Grant.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And I'm Michael F. Florio, and together.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We host the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Daniel Jeremiah]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen to the NFL Fantasy Football podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.