Nightcap Hour 2: Michael Porter Jr. says Jokic is the GOAT + Claressa Shields & Shakur Stevenson CLAP BACK at Unc + Tom Brady DENIED the Pats OFFER for Maxx Crosby + Rams & Trent McDuffie REACH AGREEMENT

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 2

Episode Title: Michael Porter Jr. says Jokic is the GOAT + Claressa Shields & Shakur Stevenson CLAP BACK at Unc + Tom Brady DENIED the Pats OFFER for Maxx Crosby + Rams & Trent McDuffie REACH AGREEMENT
Date: March 9, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe (Unc)
Cohosts/Guests: Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson (Ocho), Joe Johnson (Joe, "ISO Joe")

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Episode Overview

This Nightcap edition of Club Shay Shay is a lively, free-flowing discussion among Shannon Sharpe, Chad Ochocinco Johnson, and Joe Johnson. The hosts deep-dive into hot NBA debates, touch on gender dynamics in sports with Claressa Shields and Shakur Stevenson clapping back at Shannon, analyze recent NFL trades and deals, and have a few classic barbershop debates about athlete legacies. The tone is energetic, teasing, and honest, with plenty of spirited back-and-forths, memorable one-liners, and off-the-cuff asides. There’s genuine insight paired with locker-room banter, as the trio brings their athlete perspectives to fan questions and the week's biggest stories.

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Main Segments & Key Insights

1. Michael Porter Jr.: Jokic Is the GOAT?

[02:18 – 13:56]

• Debate Trigger: Michael Porter Jr recently said Nikola Jokic is the greatest basketball player of all time. Shannon opens, "People will say Michael Jordan just to agree, but they haven't watched film."
• Generational Perspective:
  • Unc: MPJ is only speaking from what he’s personally seen, not history.
  • "He didn't see Kareem. He didn't see Moses, Larry Bird, Magic, or Jordan… but that's what happens with youth." [03:02]
• Big Men’s Marketability:
  • Ocho: "Big men... they kind of hard to market."
  • Unc: "Big man never get no credit… Shaq, maybe, but outside of him, you don’t see big men with shoe deals."
• Kareem’s Legacy:
  • Unc: "Kareem had the most unstoppable... and he was throwing that sky hook from 15, 18 feet."
  • Ocho: "That's a hard shot to replicate. Ain't nobody doing that sky hook, boy."
• Unstoppable Skills & Modern Bigs:
  • Discussion on Jokic's offensive skills, offensive responsibilities historically reserved for guards or point forwards.
• What Does Jokic Need for Top 10?
  • Unc: "If [Jokic] gets another championship or two… it’s gonna be hard to say he’s not a top 10 player."
  • Ocho: "Is it because the game doesn't look flamboyant enough when you play through your bigs?"
  • Unc compares Duncan’s subdued style to Jokic’s, highlighting success over flashiness.

Notable Quote:

• "I can't blame [MPJ] for saying what he's seen with his own two eyes. But that's what happens with youth—because you haven't seen it, you don't think it happened." — Unc [03:02]

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2. Who’s the GOAT Big Man? Wilt, Duncan, Wimby’s Trajectory

[06:37 – 11:45]

• Wilt Chamberlain Throwback:
  • Unc: "Wilt got 24,000 rebounds. That man averaged 24 for his career… never had a season with less than 17 rebounds."
• Wembanyama’s Future:
  • Ocho: "Wimby, on that trajectory… at about 25, 26, he’s gonna be here."
  • Discussion about modern bigs bulking up (comparing Giannis’ transformation).
• Modern Big Skills:
  • Unc: "We’ve never seen a big man this skilled offensively… who can score, assist, and the offense runs through him like Jokic."

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3. Clarifying the Claressa Shields & Gender in Sports Debate

[27:41 – 46:13]

• Social Media Backlash:
  • Both Claressa Shields and Shakur Stevenson responded to Nightcap’s previous takes about Shields’ hypothetical matchups with male boxers.
  • Unc reads Shields’ post: "I got Clarissa over Shannon Sharpe in a boxing match. Facts. These guys are so misinformed about boxing."
• Hosts’ Rebuttal:
  • Unc: "You’re the greatest woman’s boxer of all time. But you’re not beating a male trained fighter. You’re not."
  • Ocho: "Logically… there’s no way even the greatest woman beats a male-trained boxer. But the mentality—the belief that she can—is what makes her great."
  • Joe: "Even the worst of male boxers that aren’t that good, but are pros—they would beat Ms. Shields."
• Why the Debate?:
  • Unc: "Why isn’t it enough to be the best in your field? Why is it not enough to be the greatest woman boxer ever?"

Standout Interaction:

• "She’s not beating a trained male fighter. Serena said it about tennis. There’s a reason we have women’s and men’s leagues." — Unc [29:45]

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4. NFL Blockbusters: Tom Brady’s Business & Rams Pay McDuffie

[54:12 – 64:41]

A. Tom Brady, Maxx Crosby, and His Patriots Relationship

[54:12 – 57:55]

• ESPN Report: Patriots wanted Maxx Crosby, but “no way Tom [Brady] was sending Max to Rable.”
• Is Tom Holding Grudges?
  • Unc: "If you didn't know better, you'd swear Peyton [Manning] only played for the Broncos … Tom probably will never say this, but… after everything I've done, y'all still doubt me? Okay."
  • Joe: "Funny how that business works, huh?"

Notable Quote:

• "[Brady] has been very positive about Coach Belichick and Mr. Kraft... But they gave up after everything. Let that sink in." — Unc [57:13]

B. Championship Significance

[57:55 – 59:18]

• Ocho: "Is the Tampa ring more significant than any in New England?"
• Unc: "I wouldn't be surprised if it meant more, especially going to a new team and winning right away."
• Joe: "All the pieces were there, but they needed a guy who wouldn't turn the ball over."

C. Rams Make McDuffie the Highest Paid CB

[60:42 – 64:43]

• Deal Details:
  • Rams sign Trent McDuffie to a 4-year, $124M extension, $100M guaranteed—highest paid CB annually.
• Discussion:
  • Ocho: "McDuffie strapping like that?"
  • Joe: "He nice, now… he can travel, play inside, outside..."
  • Ocho: "You gotta back up that Brinks truck for Puka [Nakua] next!"

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5. Skill vs. Power, Gender, and the Art of Boxing

[40:09 – 46:13]

• Extended discussion on skillfulness vs. raw power in boxing, especially between male and female champions.
• Joe: "Skill is not about... I'm talking from a men's perspective. [Clarissa] is a more polished boxer, but… she doesn't have the power to even affect [Rolly Romero]."
• Unc: "If Rolly touches her like her last opponent, it's night-night."

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6. Riffing & Fan Questions: Homecoming Kings, Rivalries, and More

[14:05 – 23:56; 77:45 – end]

• Hilarious, off-topic debate about the existence of basketball homecoming kings and how high school traditions differ by region.
• Classic "old head vs. young buck" back-and-forth.
• Lighthearted trash talk about athletic and basketball prowess:
  • Ocho: "I can't let you score no bucket, bro."
  • Joe: "You can't stop me. With all due respect, I'm a score two, three points. I studied your game."
• Discussion of all-time great sports rivalries:
  • NCAA and NFL: Ohio St/Michigan, Duke/UNC, Packers/Bears, Ravens/Steelers.
  • International soccer: "Celtic vs Rangers... or Boca Juniors vs River."
• Birthday shoutouts, superlative awards, and more fan Q&A.
• Touches on the economics of the NFL's new TV deals and the ever-escalating player salaries (notably WRs and CBs).

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7. Miscellaneous & Notable Quotes

• On Why Bigs Don’t Get Love:
  "Big man ain’t never get no credit. We forget about Wilt, Mr. Russell, Kareem..." — Unc [05:34]
• On Jokic’s Impact:
  "If you were to get another championship or two for Yoke to say he's not a top 10 player. It just is." — Unc [05:11]
• On Claressa Shields’ Mentality:
  "The fact that she even thinks she can… that belief is one of the reasons she's as great as she is." — Ocho [30:03]
• On Gender vs. Skill in Boxing:
  "There's a difference between him being a man and her being a better boxer…" — Joe [42:12]
• On Tom Brady’s NFL Legacy:
  “He has a statue in front of Lucas Oil, but you only see him at Broncos events.” — Unc [55:27]
• On Player Loyalty:
  “So Joe Montana, Emmitt Smith, Tom Brady, Jerry Rice… the team said nah, we're good, but when a player wants out, he's selfish.” — Unc [60:22]
• On Claressa Shields sparring men:
  "You spar. You think they're going hard on her like they would if they were going against another guy getting ready for a fight?" — Unc [34:10]

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Funniest Moments & Memorable Banter

• Endless roasting about homecoming kings for basketball (“That’s some real rural stuff, Joe!”).
• Ocho: “They had a wrestling, homecoming, football homecoming, basketball homecoming, soccer, baseball?”
• “What do you call a dog with no legs? You call it whatever you want to—it won’t come.” [70:43] — Dad joke exchange.
• Spirited, mock-serious debates about who could score off whom in basketball or win a footrace, with Joe and Ocho both firing shots.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:18: Jokic’s GOAT case (w/ MPJ comments)
• 06:37: Wilt Chamberlain and overlooked big man records
• 07:37: Wemby’s potential and NBA big men
• 14:05: Social media wrestling jokes (CM Punk spoof)
• 27:41: Shields/Stevenson "clap back" and women vs. men in boxing
• 40:09: Skill vs. power in boxing debate
• 54:12: Tom Brady blocks Pats’ trade, player loyalty discussion
• 60:42: Trent McDuffie resets cornerback market
• 77:45: Mount Rushmore of sports rivalries & fan questions
• 90:57: Hilarious school tradition debates ("Napoleon Dynamite" joke)
• 95:33: Would Clarissa Shields beat a regular man in boxing?
• 101:10: Closing credits and closing remarks (skip)

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Summary

This dynamic Nightcap episode is a rollercoaster of hot takes, athlete insight, and comedic riffing. The crew weighs in on whether Jokic deserves GOAT consideration, reflects on how generational blind spots shape sports debates, and breaks down why big men remain underappreciated in NBA lore. The show pivots to a nuanced discussion on gender in combat sports after getting called out by Claressa Shields and Shakur Stevenson, reaffirming their stance with respect but a dose of realism.

On the NFL side, Tom Brady’s influence on Raiders business and franchise feelings post-New England offer a window into superstar legacies and organizational loyalty. The hosts splash in some contract talk and market analysis, illustrating the ever-escalating price of NFL talent.

The episode is peppered with listener questions and running gags about athletic superlatives, high school traditions, and who would win various hypothetical matchups among the hosts. Expect vintage Unc wisdom, Ocho’s boisterous claims, Joe’s calm clarifications, and laughs throughout.

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[Unc]

Michael Porter Jr. Said Nikola Jokic is the greatest of all time. People will say Michael Jordan just to agree, but they haven't watched film. They'll just say it to agree with everyone else. For me, with my two eyes and from what I've seen. I'm going to say Nicola Jokic is the best player that I've ever seen from what I've seen today. And I haven't seen anybody as dominant as Yolk.

[Ocho]

Well, that saying.

[Joe]

But who said that? Joe?

[Ocho]

His ex teammate. Y ex teammate, Michael Porter Jr. He played for the Brooklyn Nets.

[Unc]

But see, that's what happens when like you said with his eyes. Have you said. He said with his eyes. So he hadn't. He didn't see Kareem.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Out of sight, out of mind. What you ain't seen you. Yeah, he ain't see Kareem.

[Unc]

He see Moses Malone. He ain't see Larry Bird. He see Magic. He didn't see Jordan. He didn't, he didn't see that. No, I, I can't, I can't blame him for saying what he's seen with his own two eyes. But that's what happens with youth because you haven't seen it, you don't think it happened.

[Joe]

It's on film. It's on film. There's footage. Everybody, everybody, everybody likes.

[Unc]

I'm old enough to remember Kareem. I'm old enough to remember Kareem. Like I said, go back and look at Kareem numbers when he first got to Milwaukee and when he first got to LA. Look at his numbers. He was giving you 33, 34 and 16, 17 for a season. He didn't come to all time leading score for no reason. And the third leading rebounder for no reason. A six time MVP for no reason.

[Ocho]

Sky hooking you to death.

[Unc]

He has the most unstoppable. Everybody look. We don't seen everybody perfect. They don't. KD took dirt one legged step back. You don't see how many people hit Jordan turnaround From Kobe to LeBron to this one. Tell me the person you've seen consistently throw that sky hook and I'm not talking about the end of the shot clock.

[Ocho]

That's a hard shot to replicate. Ain't nobody doing that sky hook, boy.

[Unc]

That's really the only shot that. And he wasn't throwing it from two feet. He throwing it for 15, 18ft.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cash. Yeah. You couldn't stop it. You couldn't stop it, Man. The game changed so much.

[Unc]

It, it has, it, it has,

[Ocho]

it has.

[Unc]

It's, it's a, it's a different game now. And I'm not looking. I've, I've been, I've been a Nicola Jokic fan. Everybody can know. Y' all know I've been a Yokich fan. I've been a Luca fan basically since they got to the league. And it's gonna be hard. It's gonna be hard. If you were to get another championship or two for Yoke to say he's not a top 10 player. It just is.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Cause he's gonna have championships. He's already got three MVPs. He's gonna be top three for MVP for the next three, four years. Now he mess around and get another one. He got four. He got a couple of championships. He got three.

[Ocho]

I wonder, is it because, you know, big men, they kind of hard to market, you know, outside.

[Unc]

You got to get me the ball, Joe.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Big man never get no credit. We just. We forget about. We forget about Will. We forget about Mr. Russell. We forget about Kareem. The big man ain't gonna never get no trouble because somebody got to get in the ball.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

When you got him that ball, he was hell, wasn't it?

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah. Or. Or is it. Is it because the game doesn't look, you know, flamboyant enough when you playing through your bigs, you know, versus the perimeter guys, they gonna razzle, dazzle you, cross you over, step your back, you know. That's why they get all the sales when it comes to apparel and things of that sort. But you never see a big man really, outside of Shaq, who. Who probably sold a lot of shoes. Outside of that, you don't really see big man with. With shoe deals like that.

[Unc]

No Cab Big. They don't. They don't. They not fans. They don't. I mean, look at Tim Duncan. They call him the Fundamentals. He ain't do nothing. Had the same expression on his face. Just butting everybody ass. I mean, he did nothing fancy. Hey, have no finger roll. All he do. Glad I like, man. Damn.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Sometimes I wish the backboard wasn't there.

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Damn.

[Unc]

He going up the backboard all the time making that shot.

[Ocho]

I'm telling you, man, he did.

[Unc]

Shh.

[Ocho]

Damn, Unc. You bring back half flashbacks thinking about that. That man stopped me from getting a ring. I could have got me one damn Tim dunking ass.

[Unc]

But that. But that's the way it is. Because you think about it. Will got 24, 000 rebounds. Y' all do realize that man averaged 24 rebounds for a career? Do y' all realize that that man average 24 rebound for your career?

[Ocho]

It don't even sound real.

[Unc]

The man never had left, never had a season with. With less than 17 rebounds in a season.

[Joe]

That's Crazy.

[Unc]

Hey, but listen, had a season, he had 40, average 44 and 27. That was after the year he averaged 50 and 25. Cuz y' all say y' all thought I was bull jing just to. So I'm not bull jing. I'm Gonna put a 44 and 27 on you.

[Ocho]

Hey, Wimby, on that trajectory I'm talking about, to where, like I'm saying, I think he gonna be able to dominate Uncle. Ooh. And when he really fill out to become who he's gonna be, because he ain't but, what, 23, 22?

[Unc]

Yeah, something like that.

[Joe]

Damn. Well, you got a long way to go, bro.

[Ocho]

Boy, at about 25, 26, you're gonna be here.

[Unc]

If he keeps grow. Yeah, he just, Just get a little strong in your lower body.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

And he figured.

[Ocho]

Yeah, you figured that part out. It's gonna be all right.

[Joe]

You think, you think he gonna develop like. Like Giannis? Like, get big like that?

[Unc]

Nah, he gonna get big like that.

[Joe]

Giannis was skinny like that, too, now.

[Ocho]

Yeah, he was. He was. He was.

[Unc]

Yeah. But that's a lot more to fill out.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah. I don't see women. I think he going, he gonna get a lot stronger on Ocho, and he, you know, he might get.

[Unc]

He might get him stronger.

[Ocho]

He might get him a little girth

[Unc]

on there, but, man, just, just so, Just so. Just so people can't move him, you know, try to play through his body and move him off his spot. Yeah, but he. People talking about the women developed the sky hook. Man, don't let that man develop no sky hook. How the hell you. Hell, you couldn't block kareems and he's 7 2. What the hell you gonna do with a man 7 4, 7 5? Throw the sky hook from nine feet high. No, but look, I, I, I get it, because you look at Yolk and the stuff that he's doing, we've. We've never seen a big man this skilled offensively that could score the basketball, could assist the basketball. There have been very few bigs that they ran the offense through. We've seen point forwards, but they run the offense through him. Yeah, he's going to average another triple double this year. Yeah.

[Ocho]

I think it's the grace that he plays with Uncle Ojoha. He makes the game look so easy, so simple. Like, you know, it don't even seem like he really out there trying that hard. If I'm being 100 with you, you know, when I watch him play, it's like. Cause if you give him one on one coverage, he gonna pick whoever that is guarding. He gonna pick him apart so quick. And it's like, then if you double him, he always looking for the open man. He passed first big who can score. You know what I mean? So it's. It's fun to watch him. It's fun to watch him work. And he gonna be. He gonna be. He gonna be hard to stop too, man. That's why I say the west so tough. Because by the time whoever comes out of the west, they gonna be so beat up. Because from the first round all the way into the west to the finals, boy, you gonna. You gonna have head honors on you.

[Unc]

You got your hands full. He's on Pace Joe to lead the league and assist again. You know, Will did it many, many years ago, but this guy's leading the league in the sense with. With double. Double digits.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Which is crazy.

[Ocho]

It don't make no sense, man.

[Unc]

It's crazy.

[Ocho]

It don't make no.

[Unc]

Like I said, his touch around the basket is second to none. And I've seen a lot of big that. I mean, so we go back to the mid-70s and come forward. I've never seen a big with that kind of touch.

[Ocho]

No, I ain't either. I ain't either. I ain't either, Ocho. So I think for them, this, it's all about how healthy they can get or how. How healthy Gordon could get, because he's the one guy who can definitely help Murray and Jokic, you know, when it

[Unc]

comes to get Watson back.

[Ocho]

Yeah, and get Watson back. They got to get them dudes back healthy.

[Unc]

So they get them back. They get those guys back healthy, it's going to be very interesting because, you know, look, come playoff time, Murray and Yoke, they're going to be Murray and Yolk. It's Gordon. When Gordon gave you that third option. Yeah, yeah, he give you that third option. He gonna be tough. He gonna be. He gonna be e. He gonna be tough. He gonna be tough. They're gonna be tough to beat. Yeah, Cuz. Yo, you know, you don't know. What do you do you let him get 50 or do you let him get 25? 30 with 20 rebounds?

[Ocho]

Oh, my God.

[Unc]

Because you had his mercy.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Like you said, ain't got nobody. They don't have. They don't have one guy that can stop him. You gotta bring the double, you gotta bring help. And it just come now. Anytime a guy gets double Joe and you know this, it's up to the guy if they knocking down shots usually like effort next game.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Unc]

Cause if you don't come, he gonna punish him. If you do come, he gonna kick it and the guy's knocking down shots.

[Ocho]

Yeah, you got to pick your poison.

[Joe]

Lul situation, huh?

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey, that's. That's why. That's why they. That's why they. You know, a lot of teams starting to be physical with a lot of these guys, too. You know, have them. Have them crying and whin into the referee got, trying to wear them down. Like, man, we know we ain't gonna stop you, but. But if we can frustrate you and have you teed off out here to where you get a couple ignorant files and you had to go sit down, then we've done just as good a job. You know what I mean? Yeah.

[Unc]

So we'll see. The one thing we do know, he has at least five more years. Let's see what his numbers are. Let's see what he's done. Has he won more championships? Has he won more MVPs? And then we're going to have to have a serious, serious discussion because the numbers are going to warrant and the wars are going to warrant. It's just a matter of how many championships does he have? Yeah, it's going to want some consideration.

[Ocho]

It's going to put him at the top.

[Unc]

Yeah, absolutely. Because there ain't a whole lot of guy. Ain't a whole lot of guys that got. I mean, you got to go back. Only, let's see, Kareem with four, with six MVPs, you got Jordan and Russell with five MVPs. And you got LeBron and. And Will with four MVPs.

[Ocho]

You talking about what you.

[Unc]

Moses Malone has three, so. Not Magic has three, Bird has three. So now we're talking about. He already has three. Now you mess around and get him and let him get a fourth and a fifth and he gets a couple championships. Now what we supposed to do with that? Just ignore it? Oh, let me guess. He played in a soft era.

[Joe]

There's always gonna be something.

[Unc]

So we gonna see before we move on. Joe, the social media team had this post yesterday. Look at Joe.

[Ocho]

What happened, bro?

[Joe]

Joey.

[Ocho]

Oh, man. What y' all got going on, Joe?

[Unc]

Do you know anything about wrestling, Joe?

[Ocho]

Yeah, I know something about wrestling. Well, Junkyard, huh?

[Unc]

CM Punk did that when he beat Seth, where he won the Bills. So he was making fun of Seth Rollins and his. And. And Becky. So they got the championship. So he's like, I got the Bills now. So that's what he was doing. So we were spoofing. We were spoofing that. And people like, man, why y' all do Joe like that? Clearly, y' all not wrestling fans. Because if you knew if you were wrestling fans, you the new CM Punk did that. And we took that from CM Punk.

[Ocho]

Yeah, they.

[Unc]

They.

[Ocho]

They thought y'. All.

[Unc]

Can we pull up the clip?

[Ocho]

Oh, they thought, okay.

[Unc]

There you go. You see, Joe?

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Unc]

They thought you were trying.

[Ocho]

They thought y' all were trying to put the name on the king.

[Unc]

Ain't nobody thought that. So you added that joke. Ain't had no hat on.

[Ocho]

I'm telling you what social media was thinking. They were thinking like, oh, man, they trying to put. They trying to put shame on the king.

[Joe]

You can't self proclaim yourself as the king. You can't do that, Joe

[Ocho]

Ocho, then do we have to go through this?

[Joe]

I'm just saying you can't call yourself the king. You have to be appointed.

[Ocho]

I was anointed. Anointed? Ocho, you know what I. Hey, you know, when I was in high school, this back in 1999, back in Little Rock, Arkansas, at the Little Rock Central, you know, I want. I won homecoming king, Ocho. I was anointed back in the day in high school. Real? Yeah, man. I won homecoming king.

[Unc]

How you homecoming king and you don't. You only play football?

[Ocho]

It was. I won the basketball homecoming king doing the game.

[Unc]

Y' all had a basketball Homecoming king. What kind of boy.

[Ocho]

Hold on, hold on. Don't act like y' all ain't got basketball.

[Joe]

Homecoming now.

[Unc]

No, we don't.

[Joe]

I ain't never heard that.

[Ocho]

Who don't?

[Joe]

Because nobody but you homecoming king and queen is on football night. It's a football.

[Unc]

Football.

[Ocho]

They got a homecoming king for basketball. Tone away y' all from bro in the sticks. I know y' all from down there.

[Joe]

I promise you. I've never heard of basketball. Homecoming king, queen. Now football.

[Ocho]

Man, y', all.

[Unc]

What is. What?

[Joe]

Chad is different down there.

[Ocho]

I need y'.

[Unc]

All.

[Ocho]

Chad.

[Joe]

Chad don't know. They don't know. Wait, what's your school population was about 200.

[Ocho]

Chill, chill. In my class, we had no ojo. We had close to about 500 people in my high school class. Now.

[Unc]

Damn.

[Joe]

And just one class?

[Unc]

No, not your high school. Your graduating class.

[Ocho]

Yes, my high school graduating class.

[Joe]

You mean the whole school? 500 kids,

[Unc]

Joe, I have never heard. Now, I done been to a lot of places. As a matter of fact, I'm getting ready to go to the county Fair. But being from the south and being on a farm, I was in 4H. I went to county fairs. I went to two CO goat shows and a cow show. I ain't never heard no ish like that. When you got a basketball, homecoming, I ain't never heard it. Oo. They ain't never heard it either.

[Joe]

Hey, matter of fact. Hey, hey, matter of fact, yes, it's homecoming.

[Unc]

Man, what is wrong with y'? All, these people saying this?

[Joe]

No, homecoming. Homecoming? For football game, you mean.

[Unc]

Hold on, you mean the prom? You was prom king. Now, I get it. If you say I was prom king because you got homecoming, you got prom, you got. So if you say I was the prom king, okay, Joe, congratulations. You got basketball hoop.

[Joe]

I ain't never heard that kind of

[Unc]

bull job is that.

[Joe]

I ain't never heard that.

[Ocho]

Man, y' all must grow up in some real rural areas to where it ain't. Y' all probably have stoplights.

[Unc]

You from Little Rock, Arkansas.

[Ocho]

I know.

[Unc]

Like he from LA or New York.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, matter of fact. Hey, show me a picture, Joe. Show me a picture. You want homecoming king?

[Ocho]

Show you. I'm gonna show you. I ain't got one.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah. No, he's trying to use AI. You think you slick. Hey, he gonna use AI and try to cream one O joke.

[Ocho]

You think I sit here and lie to you, bro? That's the last thing I'm gonna do. I ain't gonna lie to you, bro.

[Unc]

Like I said, pro. If you say, hey, Oo. You know your boy. You know your boy?

[Narrator/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Unc]

I've been at this king thing for a minute now. This ain't the first time I've been. I the king. They crowned me the king for the prom. Okay. You know your boy played a little football. I was the quarterback. I was a wide receiver. I was homecoming king. Gotcha.

[Ocho]

So y' all trying. Nah.

[Joe]

Something right? Something ain't adding up.

[Ocho]

Any people gonna talk about y'?

[Joe]

All? Not really.

[Unc]

Maybe. Maybe, maybe. Y' all had a nice little pep. Really? Y' all used to do it. Y' all had a pet rally, right?

[Ocho]

Yeah, man, we used to have pet rally. Come on, man. Y' all don't try to play us.

[Unc]

Like.

[Joe]

I'm just saying, if you had. If. If you had a basketball homecoming, ain't no telling what else y' all had.

[Ocho]

Hold on. So listen, when y' all tell me when these colleges, they have football homecoming, y' all do know they have a basketball homecoming, y'? All, man, when y' all stop playing

[Unc]

crazy, I promise You. So y' all got a baseball, homecoming, too? Track, homecoming?

[Joe]

No.

[Unc]

So what we stopping today?

[Joe]

You gotta stop somewhere.

[Ocho]

Hey, man, y' all gotta chill, bro.

[Unc]

They had a wrestling, homecoming, football, homecoming, basketball, homecoming, soccer, baseball.

[Ocho]

Wow. That's crazy.

[Joe]

Maybe small areas that do that, Joe. Maybe a small area.

[Ocho]

No, maybe so.

[Joe]

Not down here in Miami. Not. Not that I know.

[Ocho]

And look, the chat telling y', all, both, they telling.

[Joe]

I mean, the people in the chat that are saying, both are probably from small rural areas like. Like Arkansas.

[Unc]

Yeah, I mean, they probably. Yeah, they probably had a black and a white homecoming queen. Okay, I get it.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Wow.

[Joe]

Hey, Joe.

[Unc]

Black and white proms. I mean, y', all. Y', all, y'.

[Joe]

All.

[Unc]

Hey, listen. Hey, listen.

[Ocho]

Hey, listen. Y' all want to put a stain on my crown so bad.

[Joe]

We just saying there's no way.

[Ocho]

Listen, I don't figure y' all out. I don't figure y' all out. Well, y' all want to put a stain on your boy so bad.

[Unc]

Y' all good.

[Joe]

We good. Joe. I ain't even went homecoming king, so I know you ain't win when you was playing in high school.

[Ocho]

No, Ocho, hold on. I'm have to get my. Hold on. I'm about to get my stuff together.

[Joe]

Get it, Joe. Get it, Joe. Like, I. I. I ain't went home. Coming king. I. I won Class Clown. I won that.

[Unc]

Hey, they got that one right.

[Joe]

Hey, hey, all the way through the NFL, what you see is what you get.

[Ocho]

Damn.

[Unc]

No, I didn't went home gr. I was Mr. What that meant. Who Most Likely to Succeed.

[Joe]

That's what that means.

[Unc]

No, I won Mr. Senior. You had a Mr. When you're in your graduating class, you had a Mr. Mr. C. Mr. I never heard you had a Most Likely to Succeed. You had Most talented. You had all. Yes.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Unc]

Most Likely to your book.

[Joe]

Okay. Okay. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Hold on. So tell me something. Did y' all have a. Did y' all have, like, a senior banquet and all that?

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Okay.

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

We had a senior bank.

[Advertiser/Host]

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[Joe]

Did you have a senior trip? Y' all had a senior trip?

[Unc]

Yes. I didn't. What was I. Oh, Joe. Where was I gonna go? Where I was gonna get money, Joe,

[Joe]

y' all had a senior trip. I ain't go though where they went. Ours went to Disney World or Disneyland, whichever one is out here.

[Ocho]

Yeah, it was. It was something. It was somewhere like that.

[Unc]

We went on a cruise. So what was that? What was I gonna use for luggage? Piggly Weekly Bags and A suitcase? The hell I look like going to the crew with. With grocery bags? Come on now. Yeah, I got my. I got my book. I can bring it to you. Most likely to succeed. Most athletic. That's what I'm gonna do.

[Ocho]

I have to get my yearbook.

[Unc]

Superlatives in Glenville history. It can never be broken because it's not a high school anymore. I'm the only athlete to win most MVP in basketball, football, track and senior athlete. I'm the only one that did it.

[Ocho]

Sweet.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Ocho]

Hey, that's impressive. I ain't gonna lie to you. Sweet. Okay, that's impressive.

[Unc]

But I still ain't heard of no home basketball.

[Ocho]

Man. Y', all, this is what is crazy.

[Joe]

Self proclaimed king. Child, please.

[Ocho]

You know, you don't see the chat. The chat? Vouching it for everything I'm saying.

[Joe]

Nah, the chat,

[Unc]

they said both.

[Ocho]

They said it's a. It's a football homecoming and a basketball home.

[Unc]

We f. To close the chat. Let's go.

[Joe]

Close. Yeah, we got the poll up.

[Unc]

Hey, hey. Hey. Well, I. I'm just.

[Narrator/Announcer]

We're lost. It feels like we're going round in circles. I'm gonna ask that man for directions. Hi there. We're trying to get to the state fairgrounds.

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[Joe]

Nah, I'm just kidding.

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[Unc]

Ocho, I detected a voter fraud, so we about to close the chat. Damn.

[Ocho]

What's up?

[Unc]

What's up, fellas?

[Ocho]

Y' all straight?

[Joe]

Are we good, Joe?

[Ocho]

Okay.

[Joe]

We good? Everything good, Joe?

[Unc]

See? Oho last night, oo and I discussed Clarissa shield chance to win RO against Rolly Romero. Well, both Clarissa and Shakur have responded. Okay, I got Clarissa over Shannon Sharp in a boxing match. Facts. These guys are so misinformed about boxing. Like Marjorie Mayweather says, some people don't know ish about boxing. Since day one, I've been sparring with men. It's a reason I'm running through these women. Yes, you're running through women, Clarissa. Clarissa, you're not beating a male trained fighter. You're not. If that was the case, you would have fought men. You're not. They're not going to sanction it.

[Joe]

I.

[Unc]

We're not saying that you are a bad. A woman's fighter. You're great. You're the, you're the quote. You're the greatest woman's boxing of all time. We're conceding that Shakur is just upset that I said I'm not paying no money to see him fight. This fight's not interested. So he mad about that? I don't even want to discuss him. But Clarissa is not a shot at you. He's still talking about I don't box. I'm an almost 58 year old granddad of two. But I tell you what, Shakur, and I'm gonna leave it like this. When your career is over, we'll compare. We'll compare careers. That's all I want to do. Now back to our normally scheduled programming. Chris, it's not a shot at you. You're a phenomenal. A woman's fighter. But Clarissa, you're not beating a trained male fighter. You're not. He knows that. And I, I. If you want to take up. Like I said, Serena laid it out. Serena is the greatest female woman's tennis player ever. She says, I'm not beating a man. I'm not beating a male tennis player. They're not. There's a reason. If they, if, if they could do a physical sport with men and women, they would do it. But they have a woman's league and they have a men's League. There's a reason why. Yeah, there's a reason.

[Joe]

Hey, uncle and Joe. When we talked about this last night, too, Joe. The one thing I went to, yeah, with great understanding, obviously, my knowledge of boxing is. Is very good. The way. Joe. The way you. You and uncle talk about, you know, basketball, I can talk about boxing. So I understand in a sense that with common sense and logic, there's no way a woman, even the greatest woman of all time, that she can be a male trained boxer. It's impossible. Even the worst. Even the worst of mailboxes that really aren't that good, but are pros at what they do. They would beat Ms. Shields. But understanding then I just. I shifted to the mentality that she had. Huh? The fact that she even thinks she can and that belief that if I had the opportunity to. To do so or fight one is one of the reasons why she is as great as she is. That's it. And, you know, yeah, I got a little pushback about that, but I don't think people were understanding what I was trying to say. She's not going to win. She's not going to be. But the fact that she had that kind of mentality is. Which is why she is the greatest of all time at what she does. But logically thinking and being realistic, you might not. You might not like Rollie. He's not as polished as other boxers. He's not a pure fighter. You know, when you watch him fight, he's not that. So I think from that standpoint, she looks at Rollie, the way he fights, him not being a polished boxer, you know, or whatever it may be. You know what? I think I could beat him, but it just. It wouldn't happen. Realistically speaking,

[Unc]

Ocho, that's a man taking a punch versus a woman taking a punch. There's a reason men body and most athletes, males produce more testosterone than the average women. Don't do that. She would get hurt. Yes, I'm talking about a trained male fighter. People in the chat are ignorant and dumb. I said last night, we talk about it. Rolly. Rolly. Ocho, can you explain to the people that Rolly is a professional fighter? They know that we were talking about professional fighters. Now they try to take it.

[Joe]

They're gonna move the goal post. They're moving the goal post and creating other scenarios outside of the one that is the main topic. Clarissa Shields, as great as she is, she knows. Shakur knows, you know, their knowledge of boxing and doing it all their life. They understand.

[Unc]

So I guess Amanda Nunes I guess Amanda Nunes can be. Can beat a train MMA fight.

[Joe]

Come on, that's even worse. That's four ounce gloves. That's even worse.

[Unc]

Why not? You got to have that mentality. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying that she's not great. She's great, great. She's the greatest woman fighter ever. But to fight a man, Serena is. Who's the greatest woman's basketball player? She's not beating a man in basketball.

[Ocho]

I think, I think tennis.

[Unc]

She's not a woman. The greatest woman soccer player. She's not beating a man. And it's okay. There's a reason why oo we have leagues that are for women and for men. And that's why everybody get up in arms when men say, well, I'm taking these hormones and try to compete against the women because it's unfair. What is it? What is, what is it that you don't see?

[Ocho]

I see it.

[Unc]

Y' all just want to have something. And like I said, I think, I think the world over her story, if you've heard her story and to see where she came from, from the streets of Detroit to what she's turned herself into. A two time Olympic champion as a once as a teenager and what she's turned herself into. Kudos. Get nothing but respect from me. But y' all know ain't no trained woman fighter beating a trained male fighter. It's not happening. Y' all know that. The power is just not there. The dude that clipped her sparring, Rolly knocked out with headgear.

[Ocho]

I think. Hey, look, I, I think because of that too, because of her sparring sessions, maybe she's sparring with guys. It's probably. She's probably built up the confidence to where she really does think she can be the man.

[Unc]

Yeah, you spar. You think they're going hard on her like they would if they was going against another guy getting ready for a fight?

[Joe]

They won't turn up. No, they won't turn up because they understand, especially at that level, it's about work. It's not beating. It's not about beating the person in the ring. It's about giving them the work that they need to prepare for whatever they're getting ready for. Because if they want to a train fighter, those that I've been there with, Kayla Plant, the Charlo brothers, as a

[Unc]

matter of fact, Ocho, before you go any further, I saw Caleb Plant in the grocery store. He told me to take.

[Joe]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Unc]

I just saw.

[Joe]

Hey, Joe.

[Unc]

They.

[Joe]

They can kill you if they want to, Joe. They can kill you if you want. If. If they, if they want to. If they want to turn up as, as a, as a, even as a trained fighter. It's levels to everything. And I think the way Clarissa Shields looks at Roelly, he's not as polished. He's not a pure boxer. His fighting style is unorthodox and it's awkward. If you watch him fight, it looks weird. I mean, it just does. I'm just being honest, you know, if you look at rolling, you look at Shakur, two completely different levels. So when she sees that as a polished boxer, as the best women of all time, she thinks, well, hell, I can beat that.

[Unc]

I could beat that.

[Joe]

That, that, that's. That's her mentality. But can she really do it?

[Narrator/Announcer]

Yes.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Yeah, I understand. The champion. Yes, I know. But can she really do it? No, absolutely not.

[Ocho]

We g. We. We probably see. We'll probably see a match. A woman fighting a man.

[Unc]

They won't sanction it.

[Joe]

They can't sanction that, Joe. 10 ounce gloves, 8 ounces gloves, no headgear. Man versus woman. No joke, man.

[Ocho]

If they know you gonna tune in, they gonna, they gonna make somebody.

[Joe]

She get hurt, Joe.

[Unc]

They won't. They. They won't say what? You gonna have to go overseas where there no sanctioning bodies because there's not a sanctioning body in the US that'll sanction it.

[Joe]

I like, I love the confidence. I love the confidence and that confidence she has, you know, and like some people say, it's delusion is why she's the greatest of all time. And what she does.

[Unc]

I can make it, Ocho. I can make a case that Sydney McLaughlin is the greatest friend of 400 hurdle open 400 most high schoolers. I beat her in the open four. So you think Sydney. Sydney McLaughlin can beat a train, a trained 400 meter hurdler? No, that's running. Why you think in a fight, a trained fighter, male versus a woman, that the woman can beat him? Why would you think that? And why would you want to see that? I wouldn't want to see that. Me, I. I promise you, I don't know how you guys watch. Oh, Joe, Joe, when I watch sports, I never thought that, man. I wonder if Serena could beat Federer. I wonder if she could beat Joe.

[Ocho]

No, no, no.

[Joe]

There's no excitement in that. Huh? There's no excitement in that.

[Unc]

What? That's, that's my only question, Joe. Why is it enough to be the best that you're given your given feel. Why can't. Why is it enough to be the greatest woman boxer ever?

[Ocho]

Because she doesn't. It's almost like you don't want any measurements on it. It's like you didn't reach the pinnacle. She at the top. Can't no girl touch it. She know that. Oh, she, she wants to. She wants to continue to keep going. So therefore now this narrative then came out that she feel like she can be. Be the man. I mean, I. That's what's next.

[Joe]

You know what? Hey, Uncle Joe, what if they do make that an exhibition? What if that. What if that's the next thing that she does?

[Unc]

It's gonna be the same thing. You saw what happened when Jake Paul fought a real fighter in Anthony Joshua. How did that look, Ocho? How did that look, Ocho? There's levels to stuff. That's why men fight men, women fight women, Women play women's basketball. Wnba, they got the NBA, they got the women's soccer league, they got the men's soccer league. When it comes to things that involve physical strength, men don't compete against women. There's a reason why, and we know the reason. This not a knock on her. She's phenomenal. I know Roger Mayweather said, hey, are you right? I don't know. I just know, Ms. Shields, you're not beating a trained male fighter, especially a three time champion. You're not. And you and Shakur can be upset with me, all you guys want to. I still love you. I still admire you. I think you're phenomenal. Cause your story, coming from Michigan and doing what you did, getting yourself out of an impoverished situation, getting your family out of that condition. Absolutely. But you're not beating a trained male fighter. You're not. You're just not. And that's not a knock on you. I don't. You're talking about rolling ultra. Well, you know, rolling ain't that skill. That man is a three division champ.

[Joe]

Yeah, I've seen. I'm gonna stay away from that. But from, from, from a, from a skill standpoint.

[Unc]

You think. So you think Clarissa is more skilled than Rolly?

[Joe]

Like skillful, skillful, wise. Like boxing, pure boxing? Yes, absolutely.

[Unc]

Absolutely.

[Joe]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Unc]

Okay.

[Joe]

Absolutely.

[Unc]

But, but so, so she competed.

[Joe]

Oh, no, no.

[Unc]

Why not? She's more skilled. Hold on.

[Joe]

Skill. It's not about male women. I'm talking about just men. From, from a men's perspective. Let me.

[Unc]

No, no, no, no, no. We talk. You said she's more, she's more proud.

[Joe]

She's so therefore she's a more polished boxer. She's a polished, pure boxer. Rolly's not a polished.

[Unc]

So she should be able to be. She should be able to be.

[Joe]

You don't have the power to be mean, to even affect him.

[Unc]

If she more skilled, she should.

[Joe]

Skill is not about. Skill is not about. I'm. She's more skillful.

[Unc]

It.

[Joe]

What she does. He doesn't have that kind of skill.

[Unc]

Okay, so why should you. She shouldn't get hit. No.

[Joe]

Come on. You know what I mean.

[Unc]

No. No, I don't. Let me ask you a question. You said Floyd skill. What was Floyd so skillful at? What could he do?

[Joe]

You can't hit him, and his defense is his offense.

[Unc]

Okay, now let's stay.

[Joe]

Stay. Stay with me real quick. When you. When you watch a curb fight, the most skillful right now in boxing, when he fights, what can people not do? They can't.

[Unc]

What hit him? Did he.

[Joe]

Same thing. Very skillful. When you watch Rolly fight, he's trying to knock everybody out. Every punch is with bad intentions.

[Unc]

But he's not gonna know. He's not gonna be hurtle. Because she's so skillful. He won't be able to get her, man.

[Joe]

He will kill. Stop. Come on. Stop playing there.

[Unc]

Joe, am I the only one? Chat. Am I the only one?

[Joe]

Yes, you're the only one confused. If you watch boxing. You know boxing, you know this. She's a better bo Sir. She's more skillful, whether it be defensively or offensively, but he will still beat her.

[Unc]

So how does it. So how does she lose?

[Joe]

It's a man. What do you mean? He can crack?

[Unc]

Joe, you. Joe, do you hear what he said?

[Joe]

Are you not listening? There's a difference between him being a man and her being a better boxer. She's a better boxer. A better pure boxer. Whether it's out, what is on the outside, whether it's on the inside. She's a better boxer. Unk. She's better skillfully. It doesn't mean she can beat him. He has an awkward fighting style. He just does. But it works for him. That can crack. If he hits Clarissa shield. She's going to sleep.

[Unc]

What you mean, if?

[Joe]

I mean, well, when. Come on, man. Don't.

[Unc]

Ocho. If she got touched. Ocho, did you see the fight that lady? Yes. Okay. If Rolly. If Rolly touch her like the lady, she just like.

[Joe]

It's nice. It's nice out. It lights out.

[Unc]

We.

[Joe]

We know that. And we've. We've Already said. I. I said when we first started the conversation. Joke. What? I say there's no way in any scenario she's beating Rolly. I said that. But you. Now, we went to skill. Now, when it comes to skill, she's a better skillful boxer. She's a pure. She's a pure fighter. If you watch boxing, you can sign it. Rollie has an awkward stylist, unorthodox. You don't know what the hell's coming, but if he catch you, you're going to sleep.

[Unc]

But see, that's what makes him so dangerous. Because what Ray Roy. Roy was skillful. But what rape made Roy Jones his unorthodox style? Cause you didn't know where he was gonna throw a punch.

[Joe]

And you ain't gonna see the damn punch. That's another problem. Hey, hold on. Because he was so skillful, because his footwork was so good, because he was so goddamn quick, he never had to rely on defense. And what let him down when he

[Unc]

got knocked out, as he got older, those reflexes were the same. Yeah. So a punch that he could dodge or see coming when he was younger, the one that Tarver hit him with, he never saw it. He never saw it. But hopefully. Hopefully we've been going in this almost three years ago. Hopefully, you and I never have another discussion when it comes to men and women competing against each other. I really hope we don't, because I think me, we can admire the beauty of each sport, and I think you can be the great at this. And, like, you know, I'm fine with that. Serena is perfectly fine with being the greatest woman's tennis player ever. I think Asia Wilson is going to be the greatest. I mean, you know, hey, I know she said that she could be Josh Hart when she can't. When she can't. Greatest of all time. That's what I believe. But when you talk. Talking about a professional versus professional in a physical sport.

[Joe]

Different, man. It's different. Hey, hey, Joe.

[Unc]

No. When we talk about what's up, talk

[Joe]

about skill and art, is when you watch people fight, think about the Shakur and the Tio Loma. The to fight, right? And we always see Tio play with his opponents and do all kind of tricks and hands down and doing all this, and he fights Shakur. It's levels to everything. That's the skill. That's the skill. There's a huge skill gap between Clarissa and Rollie. That's all I'm saying. But she won't. She won't win if they actually Fought. I'm just saying, from a standpoint of how polished she is as a boxer. Yes. Because there's levels to everything. But a man against a woman, oh, man, it ain't happening.

[Unc]

I think the thing is, Ocho, we got to be careful, because a lot of times we look at Rollie Skills, and we're looking at him through the lens of Shakur or we're looking through the lens of Floyd or. Or some of these other skillful fighters, and we say, well, he's not as. No, he's not as skill as those guys, but he's skillful.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Just not because you're talking about. Now you start getting Floyd and you get your core and you get Roy or you got. Rest your soul, Sweet P. Whitaker. When you start getting those guys. Now you start getting sugar 8. Now you get into a.

[Joe]

You know, is other. Is other is other fighters in that weight division. Look at. Look at. Look at Keyshawn Davis.

[Unc]

Keyshawn Davis. Yeah. Skill.

[Joe]

Nice grace like skill. That takes extreme skill to be able to do that.

[Unc]

Yes.

[Joe]

Richard. Richard Hitchinson. Richard Hitchens. I'm not sure if I'm saying it right. Skill is different. You know, I mean, just.

[Unc]

But what is Davis one.

[Joe]

Javante.

[Unc]

No, Keyshawn.

[Joe]

What? 135?

[Unc]

I think he's 140. Is he 40 or 47? I think.

[Joe]

I think he fighting 147, too. Huh? I'm not sure.

[Unc]

He might. He might. I think so. I think. I think tank is 140 skills.

[Ocho]

Tank won't fight. Tank won't fight. Keyshawn.

[Joe]

Hey, I don't know. Lamont Roach, huh?

[Unc]

We need. We take Tank. Tank need to get his issues. Once we get. Once Tank get these issues resolved, Joe, we could. We can start think about fighting again, man, but there's. There are some fights out there to be made. It is. I think Shakur and I think Shakur and Tank, I think that's a mega fight.

[Joe]

That's a mega fight. But you. You don't want that right now, because if you get it right now, then there's nothing to look forward to.

[Unc]

I've been looking forward to a fight. I mean, I look forward to. I've been looking for. I look forward to a. We've been. We were looking forward to Canelo and

[Joe]

Bud looking for a fight like, that was nice.

[Narrator/Announcer]

I'm.

[Joe]

I'm curious which is still going to happen, Joe, where. I'm glad Bud retired because it's going to take the right amount of money to bring him out of retirement. The other part, the other end of that. Who's going to be the fighter that's going to bring him out of retirement? That everybody wants to see, man.

[Ocho]

Nobody wants bring him out. Them boys I want, they don't want to see somebody.

[Joe]

Somebody gonna bring him out though.

[Unc]

Yeah, absolutely. No. Happy International Women's Day.

[Ocho]

Tada.

[Unc]

To all the beautiful women out there that hey, thank you, thank you for everything that you do from taking care of the kids to supporting your family, man, supporting your husband, loved ones, whatever the case may be. You guys make it worthwhile. You guys make it happen. So we ojo Joe, appreciate you, want to thank you sincerely thank you. So all the women out there, this is your day. Hopefully you enjoyed it. Hopefully you did something fun and your significant other took you to do something to let you know just how special you are and him without you.

[Joe]

Yes sir.

[Unc]

Ain't happening so.

[Ocho]

And every time you look up, every time you look up, it's a holiday. Yeah, we just came, we just got out of Valentine's Day, ain't it?

[Unc]

And about to go into St. Patrick's ain't nobody getting a day. Hey, you know it's a holiday, Ann.

[Ocho]

Right, right. Then Mother's Day right around the corner.

[Unc]

Boy, they finally want to get that money, man. I mean Christmas, I mean Christmas wasn't supposed to be what it is. I mean they bought presents for the, for the man that was born.

[Joe]

Right, right, right.

[Unc]

And somehow it wasn't. No, they ain't bring no bikes. Who brought a bike in a car? O Joe in a microwave.

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[Unc]

Man yeah ocho According to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler, the Patriots reportedly wanted Max Crosby this off season. But Tom Brady filer spoke to someone involved in the Crosby trade and was quoted no way Tom was sending Max to Brable. Brady and Rabel were teammates in New England from 2001 to 2008. However, it seems Tom doesn't have any plan on helping his own team. Yeah, Ocho, should the Raiders be worried that Tom ties to the Patriots could affect business decision?

[Joe]

No, not really because I think Tom knows what he's doing. He knows what he's doing from a business side, especially trying to do what you can. I think what the Patriots might have been offering for Matt Crosby they weren't getting in return. I think what the Ravens got what the Ravens were willing to give up for Matt Crosby. Tom Brady understands what I can continue to build over there in Las Vegas and he under he understood that this is about business. Now, whether I want to help you improve or not, are you going to compensate me the value that we need to prove our roster if we're giving away our identity to you, the Patriots probably weren't willing to do that, but the goddamn Ravens were.

[Unc]

So if the Patriots have two first and the Ravens have two first, you think Tom Brady doing business with his old team That's a great question. That's a good question. I don't think so.

[Ocho]

He ain't helping them now.

[Unc]

I think it's a situation. Honestly. This is me. And like I said, I haven't talked to anybody, but I can see a situation like what happened with Peyton and the Colts. If you didn't know better, you would swear Peyton Manning only played for the Broncos because. Where do you see him at the games on Sunday? Yeah, Broncos. Where do you see him? Doing stuff with the Broncos. He has a statue out in front of Lucas Oil. Tom probably will never say this, and he won a championship. I'm the greatest quarterback ever, and you let me know. You told me I wasn't good enough. It wasn't. It was bad enough when I first got into the league. I had to watch guy after guy after guy after guy. And you mean to tell me after six Super Bowls, after three MVPs, after four Super Bowl MVPs, I'm not good enough?

[Joe]

Funny how that business work, huh?

[Unc]

And. And I understand Coach Belichick, but he say, Mr. Kraft, you signed off, you fired him. So you mean to tell me you couldn't override it? You let it get to this. That's just me. That's just me looking at. Knowing how.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

That's a good one. That's a good one.

[Unc]

That man. Hey, that man, you see how he held against every team that passed his ass up?

[Joe]

Gave him.

[Ocho]

Gave.

[Unc]

Hey, put foot for 23.

[Joe]

Gave him hell, huh? Everybody.

[Unc]

He did.

[Joe]

I, I.

[Unc]

Like I said, and I could be. I could be totally wrong, but I think there's still some resentment there. He will never say it. And I get it. I get it. You always put, oh, no, we're great, and, you know, the Patriots and yada, yada, yada. He's been very, very positive about Mr. Coach Belichick. He's been very, very positive about Mr. Kraft. They gave up.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Unc]

After every. So let that sink in. So chat. So next time y' all talking about these players and this and that, he's on a very short list whether you think a quarterback can be the goat of an. Of a league that's neither here nor there. We'll debate that another time. Here's a guy that had an exemplary career for 20 years in New England with six Super Bowls, four MVPs, three regular season MVPs, and, you know, when it comes to clutch, we ain't talking about the one that's in your car with a manual transmission. We're talking about when you need Something to happen, he can make it pop off. And they said, nah, bro, you ain't got it no more. We'll be better without you.

[Ocho]

Hey, so I got a question. Y' all think that the championship that he won in Tampa Bay is more significant than anyone he's won in New England?

[Unc]

I wouldn't be surprised if it meant more especially.

[Joe]

Especially going from one team to another and being able to win it the first year. And when stuff like that happened, Joe, like if you were playing a video game and let's say you just trade one player to another team, now, you expect to win, but to be able to do it in real life, to go to a new organization after being somewhere for what, 20. 20.

[Unc]

20 years. 20.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And people say, oh, well, we don't know what's going to happen. Did you win in New England because of Bill, or was it because of you? And then you go to the next place and win the following season? When people play their whole career and never go to a Super Bowl.

[Unc]

Yeah, but.

[Ocho]

But Tampa Bay wasn't just slow, though. They was just.

[Joe]

All the pizza was already there. They were missing one thing.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Yeah. All they needed, the guy that didn't turn the ball over.

[Ocho]

Right. Right.

[Unc]

And I. I think because. Because they didn't believe in him. He's like, hold on. After everything I've done, y' all still doubt me now? Okay. It was so. Boy, I would have loved to been a fly on the wall when he was with his friends, his closest friend, his mom, his dad, his agent, his boys.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Cause you got to realize now, once he left, that thing unraveled fairly quickly.

[Ocho]

Very quickly.

[Joe]

Wait.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Joe]

You know, if you don't have a quarterback, I mean, look, hold on. Mac Jones looked good his first year, but you understand why he looked good and what he had to deal with his second year. Somebody that shouldn't be been appointed, that had nothing to do with officer play calling, didn't know what they was doing, so it went downhill very fast.

[Unc]

Damn. Some guys, you just look. You see that You. It happens. Because I. I don't care how well you played, eventually go. What they do with Joe. Emmett Smith to the Cowboys. What they do, Ocho. Oh, yeah, Joe, you know, that's your team, you know?

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Unc]

So Joe Montana, Emmett Smith, Tom Brady, Jerry Rice. I can make a case. Therefore, the top eight at their position.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Had to finish their careers elsewhere. Cause the team, after everything they had done, said, nah, we good. Yeah. But when a. When a player says, I will. Hey, I want Out. Are you selfish?

[Ocho]

Yeah. You know how it goes.

[Unc]

Ocho Joe, the rams and Trent McDuffie agreed to a record four year deal. 124 million dollar extension, $100 million. Get 100 million guaranteed, making him the highest paid cornerback in history. The highest paid cornerback per year. He makes 31 million. Sauce Gardner 30.1, Stingley Jr 30, JC Horn, 25, Jalen Ramsey 21, 24.1, and Pat Sir Tan second 24.

[Ocho]

McDuffie strapping like that?

[Joe]

He nice now. He nice. Hold on. Hey, listen, he very nice. He could play inside. Joe, he could play on the outside too, at times, if need be. He could travel. I'm not sure what they're gonna, how they're gonna use him over there. He's probably not going to travel. I'm sure he has a Pacific side that he likes to play based on what he did in Kansas City. But he could strap. Hey, he can strap. What? He can strap. When I had, I remember I had my wide receiver workshop and I talked about some of the DBs that were difficult, you know, to play against. I, I asked UNO as Jamar Chase, I asked some, some other receivers, and obviously Patrick Certain was at the top. But goddamn, Trent McDuffie's name kept coming up. He, he had to deal with, along with, you know, Denzel Ward. And it's the same, it's the same name that always, when we talk about, it's denzel Ward, Trent McDuffie past 13, you know, the JC Horns, Stingley. Stingley is, is always in that conversation too.

[Unc]

So Gonzalez is not that now, you guys, you'll have. Hey, they're gonna have to do something with Gonzalez. You're gonna have to do something.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I forgot Gonzalez is up too. Hey, he nice, huh? He nice. I wish, I wish he talk a little bit more. So the, the, the, the, the personality matches.

[Unc]

Trying to get that man to talk out of his game. Oc, you try to get that man to talk down?

[Joe]

No, I'm just saying, because that ain't his game.

[Unc]

That's your game.

[Joe]

He's to decide. We need that kind of personality to be a little bit more brash, a little bit more boastful about how good they are.

[Unc]

Daddy Ocho, that's your game. You try to get him to do something like you did. Everybody can't talk and play, okay? Some people just like to play and let them. You and I, we like to play and play. And I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna do. And then my play go Talk for me on top of it.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Unc]

Because sometimes I get too tired to talk. But I'm gonna play. I'm gonna hit this touchdown on you. I'm doing.

[Joe]

Hey, he nice though. But that's, that's, that's a really. That's a really. Listen, that defense improves, which is already good, which is already good at that, at the, the back end was already good, especially last year. But to add that to what they already have, especially with that, that front line the Rams got and you get a solid piece at corner, they gonna be nice. They gonna be. I would love to be. I would love to be a fly on the wall at a practice in the one on ones with Trent McDuffie and Puka Nakua.

[Unc]

I would love.

[Joe]

I would love to see that pook

[Unc]

ain't no slouch, man. Oh, they must be got some money. Hey, I know Mr. Cronky got a boat low, but it's gonna take some more. Cause. Cause what? What? He just. What? He just paid. What? He just paid. Yeah, McDuffie, he gonna have to add about 40, 50 more million to that

[Joe]

this year. Or is it next year?

[Unc]

Puka. Puka up.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Hey, it's Puka's fourth. Hold on. This Puka, third or fourth year? Puka was a fifth round pick.

[Joe]

Oh, my goodness.

[Unc]

Yeah, he up. He only did a three year deal.

[Ocho]

Hey, they gonna have to. They gonna have to back up that bridge.

[Joe]

He finna reset the market. Now I'm. I'm curious, I'm curious if over there in Seattle they waiting on. On Puga to sign or they gonna, or JSN gonna sign first or they're gonna make JSN play one more year.

[Unc]

Yeah. So he's played three years or four years.

[Ocho]

He's been three years.

[Unc]

He just finished year three. Okay. He signed a four year deal. Damn. They signed that many. They signed that long a deal. When in as a fifth rounder.

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[Unc]

Yeah. Yeah, he about. He about to. He about to. Yeah, he about to break. He about to break it up.

[Joe]

Hey, Joe, he might get 42 for what? Unk. He got to get 42 a year. 32. Yeah.

[Unc]

Who the high.

[Ocho]

Who the highest paid receiver right now, Chase? Yeah,

[Unc]

we gonna reset. Reset the market.

[Joe]

That's crazy. Hey, Joe. It's gonna keep going up too, Joe. It'll keep going up.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Hey, I don't know if you saw, but you saw the NFL tried to redo them TV deals. You see that Ocho?

[Joe]

They are.

[Ocho]

Get out of here.

[Joe]

Yeah, but they Want more.

[Unc]

Hey, Netflix, say we want in. Oh, yeah. Cbs, Paramount. Say, hey, y' all know we got a good relationship. We bought up everything. We put it on any network you want to. You want a cbs, you want. Hey, you want cnn, whatever network you want. Netflix. Hey, you know, in order to be considered for real, you got to get live events. You got to get a live sporting event. And nothing better than the NFL football. And teams gonna pay big dollars for it, and they know that. All right, now it's time to play a fade presented by prize picks. Quentin Grimes, 4.5 assists.

[Ocho]

Quinn Gray, tomorrow, he play.

[Unc]

He might be over that because of what you call him. Tyrese Max hurt his hand.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah. It looked like it was serious, too.

[Unc]

Yeah. Tyrese Max. I might go over that because he gonna have to start. I might go more than four and a half because if. If Maxi can't play, that means he's gonna get more time.

[Ocho]

I. I agree with you. I agree with you on this one, boy.

[Unc]

More, more, more. Christian Braun, when you combine rebounds and assists, 7.5. So he'll have at least. When you combine combine rebounds and assists, at least eight.

[Ocho]

They playing okc?

[Unc]

Yep. And Denver. Damn.

[Ocho]

Rebounds and assist. Ah, I might get. I might give him more.

[Unc]

I'm going to. I'm going more, too. Oh, Nicola jokic. More than 20.

[Joe]

More, more, more.

[Ocho]

Hey, he gonna. He's trying to prove a point. I got. I got him in more. I got him more of this game because I think Murray might be out.

[Unc]

Yeah, Mike, Jalen, Brunson, they played. They play the Clippers tomorrow. Rebounds and assist. More than 10.5.

[Joe]

Nah, rebounds and assists.

[Ocho]

I'm going a little.

[Joe]

He.

[Ocho]

He on.

[Unc]

He.

[Ocho]

He'll get a couple rebounds, but not enough to where. I got him less. I got less.

[Unc]

Give it with the Lakers. Jay LeBron,

[Ocho]

he averaged what. Damn. They playing the Clippers. You going more up.

[Unc]

I'm going more.

[Ocho]

All right.

[Joe]

I gotta.

[Ocho]

I gotta write this down.

[Unc]

I think you'll get. He gonna get like three. He gonna get three or he gonna get four assists to call after the time than the pick and roll.

[Ocho]

That's hit or miss. Yeah. If I'm a bed man, I ain't just like, you know.

[Unc]

Dang, Joe, I can't believe Bronson.

[Ocho]

I'm with you. I'm with you.

[Unc]

You.

[Ocho]

You. I mean, he said he's been at 14 over the last four games, so. Yeah, I'm gonna go more.

[Unc]

Ocho, you want more?

[Joe]

Yeah, I'm going with more. I'm going with Joe, huh?

[Unc]

I like it. Here. Is today he has six rebounds and seven assists

[Ocho]

against the Lakers.

[Unc]

Yep.

[Ocho]

Okay, this a back to us. It's a back to back tomorrow. Back to back. And so you y' all expect for him to do this again? What.

[Unc]

What is the average? What is it? What is he averaging for the year? He's got to be averaging at least. At least six rebounds. I mean, six assists for a season. Five.

[Ocho]

Yeah, he probably about

[Unc]

six. That's 10. So. Yeah, he averages. He averages 10. He averaged a 10 rebound. He averaged a 10 assist rebounds of the season, six and a half assists, three and a half rebounds. Yeah, I get one more. I'm saying more. More.

[Ocho]

All right,

[Unc]

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[Joe]

Oh, yeah. Hey, hey, hey, Uncle Joe. Hey, hey, hey. Ask can hear me too.

[Ocho]

Yep.

[Joe]

Hey, Chat. Would you call a dog with no legs?

[Unc]

You call it whatever you want to. You won't come.

[Joe]

Okay, that's a good one. That's a good one, huh? That's a good one.

[Unc]

You say he thought he had a. Joe, Just stay with me, Joe.

[Joe]

Stick with me, Joe.

[Unc]

Stick with me, Joe.

[Joe]

That was a good one. That was a good one. That was a good one.

[Ocho]

Dog with no legs.

[Unc]

Now it's time for our final save of the evening. It's time for Q and A. You cannot say. You know, you can't say. You got to say mobility challenged.

[Joe]

Why?

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

Don't play about them animals, boy.

[Unc]

Well, you can't. I mean, you can't say disabling things. You got to just say, you know, mobility restricted or mobility.

[Joe]

Right. Oh, so if. If I say, what's the hardest part?

[Unc]

No, don't say it. Yeah. But if you do, say yes. Yeah, we're gonna say mobility challenge or restricted. Yes. Before we get to our super chat, we got a video voicemail from our Discord. So make sure you join the Discord and submit a video of voicemails for the show. All right, this one comes from Panther Pride. Let's take a listen to what he had to say, guys.

[Ocho]

What's up, Nightcap, fam?

[Unc]

Ocho and King down here in South Florida. Just move here.

[Ocho]

I always watch out, y'.

[Unc]

All. Right now. I always watch, y'. All. Hey, Ocho, where you get your cigars from? What is it?

[Ocho]

I go down to Miami. Cuban crafts.

[Unc]

Sit down there, smoke. I have me a Cuban slow coffee. Where do you get your cigars, Ocho? It's Definitely closer to you.

[Joe]

I know about Cuban crafters. If. If you down this way, if you're in Miami, I go to Aficionado cigar bar right here in Pembroke Pines. Sometimes I go to Top Notch, right across the street in Miami Garden from the Dolphin Stadium. And I do go to smoke on the water, which is out a little further out there in Weston. Those are my three main spots. But for the majority of the time, really every day, I go right down to Aficionado, get me a little coffee, get my little cigars, you know, if you. If you're in town. But, you know, during the day, you catch me there sitting down there with machita pants on with my feet kicked up.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey. You gotta. Hey, you gotta know how to smoke them cigars. Now, you don't just, oh, yeah, get on them cigars and go, oh, no, no, no, no.

[Joe]

It's an acquired taste. It's an acquired taste. It's not just. It's just not by smoking them. You're smoking them for a reason, Joe. You're smoking for a reason. You gotta know what you're doing.

[Unc]

What's the reason?

[Ocho]

I went to the. I went to the Bahamas. Me and some of the homies went to the Bahamas when the season was over with one year. And, man, we had a couple of them Cuban cigars. I'm talking about big, strong joints, you hear me? And we ain't really. We weren't really no cigar smokers like that. Man, I smoked that cigar, oh, till I Woke up at 6. 6 in the morning. I had been passed out about 10 in that night trying to smoke a cigar. I couldn't do nothing that night. See, you gotta know what you're doing.

[Unc]

You know, I've smoked my cigars. They close to Cuba. Tampa Nuggets. You know them Tampa Nuggets? O Joke?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Swisher Sweets. Do they count? JD From Akron. ISO until you're dethroned, you gotta bang the drums and hit that Ali Champ. The champ is here.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Unc]

All that ain't necessary. Horace Tidwell said, Ocho, check your messages on the Gram sent you a photo. When you hot that C2CJ2K. Celebrate. Celebrate. Celebrity game in 2018. You dropped 12 points on TMAC.

[Joe]

Yeah. Hey, you next, Joe. See, everybody keep looking at the big three and not understanding that I was handicapped and not being able to do what I want to do. But when I played against T. Mac, me and T. Mac went at each other the whole game. It was just me and him, and I was able to score. 12. And you know, I mean, T. Mac like you, you know, he tall, very. But once he, you know, wingspan, I'm like, okay, it's gonna be difficult to get around him. But, Joe, I'm so quick off the dribble. That's the only way. And once I lower that shoulder and put that, that. That chicken wing on you to create a little space, like mellow do on that little midi. Yeah, I'm able to get to my spot, Joe. Like, I can't. I can't talk the game of basketball, but I know. I know how to maneuver on the court to be able to create space, Joe. That's why I talk the way I do, even though it's what you do. I'm not gonna beat you, Joe. I just need to score two or three points just to let you know I'm on the same type of time you on. Even though I didn't play your sport.

[Ocho]

That's not. That's what I'm saying. That's not going possible. We all know that. You ain't gonna beat me. And my point, My point exactly is that I can't let you score no bucket, bro. I'm sorry. I ain't gonna be. I'm not gonna let you score, Joe.

[Joe]

You're not gonna be able to stop me, Joe. And that. That's. With all due respect, I'm a score of 0.2 or maybe 3, Joe, because I'm so good off the dribble. Joe. I know you one of the best. I know you up for the hall of fame. I didn't see your ISO game. I didn't see you face a dude up and cook him and drop him like he tripped over his shoelace. I didn't see any joke. I didn't see you back somebody down, Joe. In the pain, huh? Lean back on him and come back out and hit the. Hit the. Hit the jumper, Joe. I didn't seen it. I didn't see you pull up, pop and shoot from three, Joe. I just. I know what you could do, Joe. I studied your game. I studied you, Joe. I know your movements. I know what you're gonna do before you even do it, Joe. I didn't did my homework. That's why I'm talking to you the way I'm doing. I'm talking to you crazy because I studied you, Joe. And I'm ready. I'm ready for the test, okay? You hear my basketball talk. You hear my basketball knowledge. I can't talk about the game, but I gotta talk about what I can do to you. That's the difference.

[Ocho]

Okay, okay. Okay. I like, I love the passion that you come with, Ocho. You know, it's real cute and whatnot, but you ain't got a chance, brother. I, I, I. I'm gonna do this one here for the people, okay? Hey, I'm gonna do this one here strictly for the people, man. Strictly for the people. Yeah. So, you know, just let you know. Just let you know, bro. But I like the confidence, though. The confidence is

[Unc]

if y' all wasn't with us after the Big Three retired, don't hop on the bad wagon now. It's been a long 12 years since we went honking. We deserve this.

[Ocho]

Hold on. Who is this?

[Unc]

I guess they're talking about. Oh, you talking about the. The spurs or you're talking about the Heat, I think. And Tim and Tony.

[Ocho]

Oh. Oh. All right.

[Unc]

It's been long. It's been longer than 12 years.

[Ocho]

It's been a minute.

[Unc]

Championship game. They went to the.

[Ocho]

Huh?

[Unc]

Yeah, but they went to the. They was in the Western Conference finals. It was that 20 KD's first year. Oh, my fat. Is it fair to say Wimby is the best player in the league already? No, it's not fair to say. Hell, I mean, you, you could say it, but I don't know. I, I, me, honestly, healthy. I'm not taking them over Giannis right now, and I'm not taking him over Yolk right now, and I'm not taking them over Shay right now.

[Ocho]

He need another couple years. Give him another couple years, but he.

[Unc]

He come. It won't be long. Nah, it won't be long. Thank God I'm black. Can we say happy birthday to my boo Kim? She's been a Bengals fan since I've known her, so go easy on her. Kim. Happy birthday. But I don't know what you thinking, right? You from Cincinnati or your dad or your brother played for the Bengals. You ain't got no business roofing, tripping. They ain't giving you nothing to root for.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Kim. Trip. Happy birthday.

[Unc]

But happy birthday, Kim, nonetheless. You deserve this. Your day. So we're gonna let you slide. We'll let it slide. Kim, Happy birthday. Hopefully you did something fun, you know, bro, Hope you did something fun for Kim and get a new team, right? That's what you should have got it for, a birthday. Keonte Ely. What's up, Nightcap crew? Can I get a birthday shout out up from the 912 from Claxton, Georgia, Born and raised. That's what I'm talking about 912 Claxton, the fruitcake capital of the world. Claxton Porcher plant. That's what I'm talking about. 91 2. We're in the house since the kid. What's up, nightcap legend? Pick four sports rivalry, professional and collegiate to be on Mount Rushmore for me. Duke, North Carolina. Gotta be. Gotta be. Ocho, Ohio state, michigan, auburn, alabama, And either Packers, Bears or Raven. Steelers. What you got, ocho?

[Joe]

Trying. I'm trying to think.

[Unc]

Hold on.

[Ocho]

We talking NBA too?

[Unc]

Yeah. You talking professional, collegiate.

[Joe]

Give me. Give me that question one more time.

[Unc]

Where's your nightcap? Pick four sport rivalries, professional and college to be on Mount Rushmore.

[Joe]

Mount Rushmore rivalries. That's a good one. Duke. And it's nc, right? Obviously, yeah. NFL. NFL. I'm gonna go. Damn. What's the biggest rivalry, especially right now?

[Unc]

Pittsburgh Ravens. Green Bay. Green Bay.

[Joe]

Green Bay. Chicago. Green Bay. Chicago.

[Unc]

Go.

[Ocho]

Cowboys. Giants.

[Joe]

Is it really a rivalry? Since right now it's damn near dominant. My bad, my bad. All right. Yeah. Duke. Duke. Carolina. I'm gonna go Chicago. Green. Banks Basketball. What? Nixon. Who?

[Unc]

Bulls.

[Joe]

No, not no more. Who would. Would there even be a rivalry in today?

[Ocho]

Are y'.

[Joe]

All.

[Ocho]

Y' all talking current rivals?

[Unc]

You can pick any. Yeah, I mean, a lot of people, you know, I see the chat, they're talking about Lakers and, and, and, and the Celtics, but that hadn't. That hadn't popped off in since Kobe.

[Ocho]

But it take you back to where you. What you was doing.

[Joe]

Hey, Uncle Joe. Baseball. I'm gonna go Yankees, Red Sox.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Oh, hold on. I'mma add one more and I'm gonna take it to soccer. Y' all might not know about it, but I got like a half and half Celtic versus Rangers or Boca Juniors versus River. And now some people in the chat will understand what I'm talking about when it comes to rivalries, man. Others not. Others might not.

[Unc]

What you got, Joe?

[Ocho]

I'm going Bulls. Knicks. That was a rivalry in the 90s, fellas. I'm going my Cowboys and Giants. What other sports? I got baseball. Baseball and what?

[Unc]

You can pick any sports. I mean, you know, you got Federal, Nadal, Federer, Djokovic, Nadal. You got Alcaraz Center. You got Chris, Everett and Martina.

[Joe]

I know it ain't supposed to be funny. Somebody in the chat's about us versus Iran.

[Unc]

Tyron Reed said D. Fox really holding it together. He's the fastest guy in the league with the ball in his hands. That your quick man. Yeah.

[Ocho]

And when he plays well. When he plays well Uncle Hocho. They almost impossible to beat. It's just a nice. He don't play well but yeah can't quit.

[Unc]

Go ahead Joe, what'd you want to say?

[Ocho]

No I say he cat quick he he.

[Unc]

Yeah. Too much TS car wash detail service. How could. Why not the MVP discussion explain that. You seen their record? Have you seen. Hey hey hey. You see a record?

[Ocho]

He got some good. Hey, his numbers look good but the team success they didn't get him far enough.

[Unc]

Almighty James Ocho. Do you value films or numbers more? Do you value film?

[Joe]

Numbers only tell half the story. I prefer film even though so many people obviously rely on stats. You know to, to. To. To use this preference or context when talking about specific players film test Tim. Numbers don't tell the whole story. Film gives you everything you need to see everything.

[Ocho]

Absolutely. They film online.

[Unc]

Eric Jordan Scott. So let me get this straight. Ravens lose two. Lose twice to the Steelers this year. Mr. Playoffs have multiple roster deficiencies and they're trading away first round picks. Ravens are delusional organization. They feel that they still have quality office. Look, so that. That doesn't mean they can't have a draft. That doesn't mean. I mean basically, yeah, you got a first round pick but your team is made. Look at, look at all the picks that they've made. Okay. Lamar, the first round pick. Who's the other first round pick? Flowers. Offensively, Derek Henry was a second round pick. You don't think you can find value in the second round? The Francis said that don't mean they can't get anybody else in. Frenchy. Yeah. I still think they got some money. I still think they're gonna restructure some contracts and bring. It all depends on what's available. We'll. We'll start to know more. When does the league year start? Wednesday. Okay. Yeah. Friends start tomorrow. So we'll know. We'll see what's.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Daniel Wells. I wish people quit saying the Vike should bring back Cousins. We've been down that road before and we know what his playoff ceiling is and it's very low. It's more than just about getting JJ his yards. You're right. But if you bring him back, why are you worried about him starting? If JJ is your guy, I mean McCarthy, that is. If McCarthy is what you say cousin shouldn't be able to beat him out. So you should be clear you just got a solid backup on your roster.

[Ocho]

There you go.

[Unc]

Unless you don't believe McCarthy is it say It J underscore Cool cat. What's up, gang? Hope y' all doing well right now. Who y' all taking? Yokich, Wimby. And why Yokage even.

[Joe]

Even with the way Wimby's playing on?

[Unc]

Yep.

[Ocho]

Like right now? Yeah, yeah. Right now. I'm taking yoke.

[Unc]

Come back. Come back in a couple years. I might have a different opinion right now.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I like it.

[Joe]

I like it. I like it. Hey, hey, hey, Joe.

[Ocho]

What's that?

[Joe]

What you call a blind chicken?

[Ocho]

Oh.

[Unc]

What do you call a blind chicken? Blind chicken. I don't know what you call it.

[Joe]

You call a blind chicken? A hicking because it can't see.

[Unc]

A hicking.

[Joe]

A hicking because it can't see the sea is gone. So it's a hicking because it can't see a blanche.

[Unc]

JB concerts, SS who's winning a race between ISO.

[Joe]

A race?

[Ocho]

What kind of. What kind of race?

[Unc]

I guess they talking about?

[Ocho]

He probably give me right now because my wheel bad. But if my wheel right.

[Unc]

Oh, Joe.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I give him.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah. See?

[Unc]

What?

[Joe]

So now you can beat me running?

[Unc]

Yeah,

[Joe]

see, I was very respectful in saying I can't beat you in basketball. I can score a point. But here you go being delusional, talking about you could beat me running. Come on, Joe.

[Ocho]

I seen. I seen that one dude hawk you down in. In that arena thing. What's the little mascot man that be chasing people around the thing?

[Unc]

Oh, free. Oh, Freeze.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I've seen Freeze.

[Joe]

You saw the video. You watched the video, right? Do you not see me jogging? I'm in second gear the whole time. I ain't even open up.

[Unc]

He want to pull nothing. Freeze came and got him. No joke.

[Joe]

I was relaxing. You know what I look like when I'm. When I'm running for real? I'm just glad I'm open. Openly striding. I was chilling. I wasn't.

[Unc]

But that. But that's the thing. You ain't want to pull nothing. The last thing you want to do is have that thing grab.

[Joe]

Yeah,

[Ocho]

it's a rap.

[Unc]

At our age, Ocho, we can't be pulling nothing.

[Joe]

Man, I'm good. Hey, hey, hey, Joe. Whenever you rap, Joe, whenever you rap, Joe, I give you 50 beats.

[Ocho]

We ain't gotta. We ain't gotta compete in Alexa.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, that's what I thought. That's what I thought.

[Unc]

Paula Smalls. Winthrop University has a homecoming king and a homecoming queen because there's not a football team.

[Joe]

Maybe. Hey, maybe, Joe, them football team was bad they had to switch his basketball.

[Ocho]

No, no, no. We had a good football team, too. Chill, chill, chill, chill.

[Joe]

Checking.

[Unc]

Laney Ray says. Damn. Laney, where you been? We ain't heard from you in a minute. Hey, guys, at my high school in Minnesota, anyone could be homecoming queen or king. We voted for the court and the winners. No one had to be in sports to win, okay?

[Joe]

So, I mean, that's like. That's like.

[Unc]

Nah, Hell nah. You had to be. I'm trying to think. I think. No, you had to be. You had to be a player. Yeah.

[Ocho]

No, no, not. Not at. Not at.

[Unc]

Oh, yeah.

[Ocho]

Not at. Not in my school, man. You did not have to be.

[Unc]

Okay?

[Joe]

I just realized, you know, what your school was like. Like the school Napoleon Dynamite and Pedro went to.

[Ocho]

Let me tell y' all something. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, listen. It's a HBO special on my school with D. Little Rock Central. Y' all need to go look it up.

[Joe]

HBO special.

[Ocho]

Go look it up. It's a special. It's a special. The Little Rock Central. The. The Little Rock Nine. You need to go look it up. You need to watch it tonight.

[Joe]

Hey, so that means your school was like east side High and lean on me, huh?

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Unc]

Oh, yo, got integrated. Your school, the Nine. They got integrated, Joe. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

See, we.

[Joe]

We.

[Ocho]

We. My school was a school that made it possible, bro, for y'. All. For us to, you know, go to school with the. With. With the whites.

[Joe]

Okay, that's dope. That's dope.

[Ocho]

Ocho. Ocho, Real talk. Little rock dying, man. Go check it out.

[Joe]

I'm. Check it out. Hold on. Let me write. Let me put that in my notes real quick.

[Ocho]

Well, you gonna learn something today.

[Unc]

But y' all still ain't had no football team. You had to win. You had to be something.

[Ocho]

You couldn't be no homecoming king.

[Unc]

How you gonna be the homecoming king? And you ain't playing no sport.

[Ocho]

Hell, no.

[Unc]

Sit your ass down.

[Ocho]

Oh, we had a football homecoming, so, you know, they gotta have a king and queen. Then we have a basketball homecoming. Y' all don't see these colleges have homecomings? Man, I don't know where y' all be at.

[Unc]

Vanessa Smith was the first black homecoming queen at my school. Are they talking about. Vanessa Williams Was a. She was. Oh, I was the first black homecoming queen. Okay, my bad. Vanessa, I was like. She was the first black homecoming queen. Gee, I don't remember that. Well, we used to have a black and a white homecoming queen, but they cut that out, and we ain't have no more black homecoming queens.

[Ocho]

Wow. Wow.

[Unc]

Jeremy Alexander, King. Joe, when are you going to give Michael Beasley that works?

[Ocho]

I mean, it can happen sooner than later.

[Joe]

Whoa, whoa, hey, wait a minute. Let's. Let's not do that. Don't get too ahead of yourself. You're. You already got one animal you got to deal with right here. You need. Don't worry about Beasley. Worry about. Worry about eight. Five. That's what you need to worry about, huh? Because I already. I already gave Beasy that work. So I. Let's. Let's stay focused. Let's stay aligned and in one accord. One band, one sound. Okay? I sold Joe and Ocho. I don't want to hear nothing about else. Nobody. Don't bring up nobody else name.

[Ocho]

Boy, you making it real hard on yourself, boy.

[Joe]

You got the right one, Joe. You got the right one. Okay.

[Ocho]

All right. Okay.

[Unc]

28 style. What's up, Ocho and ISO? Yo, ISO, Them Arkansas State Patrol be having Homecoming Kings 2 after pit a car at 150 miles an hour, don't they?

[Ocho]

Oh, he talking about. He talking about the Arkansas highway. Yeah, man, listen. Georgia highway. Arkansas highway. Boy, you better stay off them highways. Thinking you slick now. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Unc]

Mauricio Zapata up your top five Titans all time. Kelsey Gronk. That's what. Oh, he said I am, or I must let him know. Oh, I was gonna say I was gonna name him for you. Mauricio. I'm in there. I mean, if I'm not, I guess I did what I did.

[Ocho]

I ain't.

[Unc]

I ain't. I ain't too shabby. I ain't trading my career for nobody, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, look here, look, I get it. I get it. I get Shakur wanting to show support for Clarissa. I get Clarissa, you know a. Saying. You know, hey, Roger, say we don't know anything about boxing. I don't know. I might not know a jab from uppercut to a lead to a. A pool counter. I might not know any of that. I just know a woman's not beating a trained male fighter. That's what I do know. Uh, hatch 135. Is it possible to be too cocky when it relates to Clarissa Shields? Cause this is not the first statement like this. She's entitled to opinion. I just happen to disagree with it. I don't know why people get so upset when you. When you put something out, Ocho. It's kind of like when you put something on social media and then when people comment on it, you get upset. When you put it for public, everybody's

[Joe]

not going to agree with you. Also, you're gonna. You're gonna have some people that agree with you, and you're gonna have some people that don't. Yeah, those that are on your side, you know, they wouldn't say it publicly. They might agree with you, but behind closed doors, like, Come on now.

[Unc]

Yeah, come on.

[Joe]

Come on, twin. Come on now.

[Unc]

Eight, 28 style. Hey, Ocho. Clint. Carissa beat you.

[Joe]

Me? Hell yeah. Yeah, she'll whip me, boy. She put hands on me, boy. Yes, he will. I don't want no smoke. Matter of fact, Clarissa beat every male in this chat that is not a trained fighter. Any casual walking the street.

[Unc]

Yes. Yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, Joe. She'll whoop you too, Joe. In that boxing ring with headgear on three minute rounds, she whooping everybody. That is not a. I ain't going.

[Ocho]

I ain't going. I ain't going.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Ocho]

I ain't going.

[Joe]

Hey, Joe. Hey, let me tell you something, Joe. Hey, Joe, listen. When she gets your ass in them deep waters, when she gets in them deep waters and you can't hold your hands up and your shoulders burning because you're not used to having your hands up to protect yourself. Yeah, okay. All right. I know, I know. You think about. Oh, it's a woman. Oh, I get in there. Nah, boy, it's a different ball game in that ring.

[Ocho]

I'm telling you, man, I ain't going. I mean, you. You may think she can whoop him, but now I ain't going.

[Unc]

I don't got a man. I'm a granddad. Beating the granddad ain't saying too much. Now, now, I would say this. She called me in my 20s and 30s. We have a different conversation.

[Joe]

Hey, Joe. Hey, but that's. Hey, Joe. It's different than that ring, boy. With them three minutes on, boy, you put that head going and that bell ring.

[Ocho]

I already know. I. Hey, look, I. I'm. I commend boxes, bro, but. And you trying to tell me she could. She could whoop my ass.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

No, I ain't going.

[Joe]

I'm telling you, when you get tired, it's a rap, ain't. Listen, Joe, ain't no towel, ain't no

[Ocho]

time out finishing her. Hey, look, I ain't never hit no girl in my life, but I plan on finishing her before I get to. Before I get too tired that one time. Tell you.

[Joe]

Yeah, hey, it sounds easy, man. You won't understand.

[Unc]

6 foot 8 Aquarius. Who's the greatest quarterback to ever play for one team? Elway or Mahomes.

[Ocho]

And I'm going with seven.

[Unc]

Man, what you call my homes ain't give me no rings. Steve. Guard Steven Garcia. Hey, Uncle ISO. If Ocho was the main event card with Jon Jones. Who's winning, man? Come on, man. Who the man card is with John Jones?

[Joe]

I wouldn't even sign up for that as. Hey, listen. Hey, Joe. As delusional as I am thinking I could do everything, I ain't. No, I'm not. No, no,

[Ocho]

that's too much.

[Unc]

That's a different kind of animal, man.

[Joe]

That's too much.

[Unc]

We did okay. 10,000 away. Oh, 10,000. 10,000. 10,000 away from 2 million subs.

[Ocho]

Oh, man.

[Unc]

Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. Y' all know who I am. I am your favorite uncle. That is my partner and co host, Bingo Great Pro Bowler All Pro. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson and the third member of the Big Three joining us. Y' all know him, University of Arkansas alum, seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks and was recently nominated for the Basketball hall of Fame, that is. Oh, oh. You ain't nominated for no basketball hall of Fame. Your ass can't play no basketball. I sold Joe Johnson. Was that. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. Do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support. We greatly, greatly appreciate it. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shea by Laportier and it's currently not available any state or city near you. Head to laportiercognac.com to order you a bottle. The best tasting cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and be safe as you watch the spurs blow out the Rockets by the score of 145 to 120. The spurs place four guys with at least 20 points and had 56 points in the paint and the Lakers beat the Knicks by 13. Luka Donches has 35 points and Austin Reaves has 25 as they win going away without LeBron James in the lineup tonight, who was nursing an injured elbow and arthritic left foot. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. I'm Unc, he's Ocho, he's ISO. We will see you tomorrow night. Happy International Women's Day to all the women out there. Thank you so much for your support. Sam. Everyone deserves to be connected.

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