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The countdown is on to our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards live from south by Southwest March 16th. We'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative, talented creators in the industry. It's truly a who's who of the podcasting world. Creativity, knowledge and passion will all be on full display. And the winner of the iHeart Podcast Award is. See all the nominees now@iheart.com PodcastAwards Audible is a proud sponsor of the Audible Audio Pioneer Award. Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts and originals all in one easy app. Audible there's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial@audible.com I'm Miles Turner.
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These deals won't last. Visit Safeway or albertsons.com for more deals and ways to save Mike Evans is leaving Tampa Bay. He's heading to the Bay to join Kyle Shanahan and Brock Purdy. We Mike Evans will have a new home for the first time in his NFL career as he chases his second Super Bowl. He's signing a three year contract with the 49ers until injuries derailed his 2025 campaign. Evans had a streak of 11 straight seasons of at least 1,000 receiving yards. He tied Jerry Rice for the longest in NFL history. His was to begin the career. Jerry has his from 90. He had his from 96 to from 86 to 96. 108 total touchdown ranks 10th all time, six most with one franchise. He amassed 368 yards in eight games last season. If he's still the same player, he has the potential to be really, really good for Kyle Shanahan, because we know what Kyle can do in that offense. Playmakers such as Christian McAffrey, George Kittle, we'll see. Coming back from an Achilles injury. Oo, yeah. Gonna have to be. He's gonna have to take another step. He's gonna have to take another step. Oh, Juan Jennings is a free agent. Kendrick Bourne, if I'm not mistaken. I think I saw him before I came on tonight. Signed with Arizona, a nice deal. Oh, what you think? Okay. Are you surprised that Mike.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, I absolutely love it. I absolutely love it. I absolutely love it because I know what Mike Evan could do. Hold on. Not only do I know what Mike Evan could do, he's going to a team where you got a goddamn offensive genius. You're going to an offense that is predicated on putting you in position to make plays. What is goddamn Mike Evans. He's a playmaker. And he showed you in a long stretch of 11 seasons of having a thousand yards. Now, it's unfortunate, I tweeted, dolphins, we got Malik Willis. Let's get Mike Evans, because I understand we needed down here in Miami another playmaker, right? And lo and behold, shortly after that, he signed through the 49ers. And I'm not even mad about it because I understand, oh, my goodness. You putting Mike Evans in that system like that, with the creativity and the office of prowess that Kyle Shanahan has when it comes to office of play calling and putting players in position to make plays, man, hell, Mike Evans might go for a thousand, maybe fifteen hundred.
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I think the thing. His thing is Ocho. And you saw this the last couple of years, the injuries started to creep up. And as they started to creep up, Ocho, they started to keep you out a little longer. You see, remember, he had a hamstring and he was able to come back to keep that thousand catch season alive. And then this year it came, and all of a sudden, he couldn't fight it off. He couldn't come back. So I think that was a little concern because Tam has lost a couple of guys. There are a couple of guys that are leaving Tampa and moving on. But when you. When you look at it, I think obviously, IUK isn't coming back. Kendrick Bourne is at a new location. There's a free agent. George Kittle is coming off a very serious injury, and he. Howell is killed a 32. 33.
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32.
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He's 32 years old, coming off an Achilles injury. We'll see how soon he can get back. Yeah, because if you think about it, ocho, Jason Tatum, 10 months. Okay. Kill the Tory, the Keys in January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November. Ten months will be November. Yeah, that's if he comes 10. But now he. Could he come back at 9 and make it October? Could he come back in 8, make it September.
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Right.
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Probably pushing it. But, hey, got you. As a professional athlete, sometimes you have to protect us from us, but we'll see how that. How that plays out. But they needed a receiver. Yeah. And you see Wandell Robinson, you saw what he got from Tennessee. You. You saw.
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Yeah.
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With Pierce, what he got from Alec from Indianapolis. So that's about. What's about 29 million a year. 4 for 116.
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Hey, timing, timing.
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So 29 for 116. So what George Pickets, we say, George Pickens, he said, and y' all think y' all want to give me 28
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to 30 million, man, man, stop playing. I. I could have told that honestly and disrespectful. I mean, those that, Those that. I don't want to call them casual fans. That, that. That watch football is. They see, oh, franchise tag 20 million and think that's enough. Not understanding. Are you foolish?
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Are you tripping?
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Are you understanding? That's why I was so boisterous and so, so enthusiastic about him being able to go somewhere else. Because I understand the game that they're going to play. I understand the game. They don't see it because they just want him on his team. Everybody's selfish. He was great for us. We want him, our team. We don't care. He got a franchise now. He getting 28, 29 million, man, please stop playing.
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But anyway, yeah, I think the thing is the. The whole thing is that, man, as you start to age and you start to get nicked it. I don't know what it is. Ocho is like. It seems like the injuries happen with greater frequency as we start to age and we start to get injured in our older age. In our latter years, we start getting nicked in year 10, year 11, year 12, man, it's hard. The body just doesn't recover like it once did. It's tough.
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Well, you know, I can tell. I can tell you something, you know, for. For. For someone who has never been injured. Oh, glory be to God. Because of that, I. I don't know what it is, especially what it is with players when they get up in age. And I'm assuming maybe it's wear and tear on the body from the, the rigorous workouts and, and, and what they've done over the years. And I, I, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't know what factor, I don't know what you can factor into it as to why it always happens. The funny thing about the nature of the beast when it comes to playing this game. Injuries are inevitable. They're going to happen and you want to minimize them the best way you can, whether it be through nutrition, whether
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it be through preventative measure, you know, your cold tub, your hot tub, your massage therapy. Yes, yes.
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Taking care of your body. But the one thing about it is, is, is some just aren't lucky. And, and it, it just happens. It just happens. Even when you prevent, you take all the proper measure measurements to make sure you don't get hurt. It just happens.
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So Evan's agent isn't stressed about. It was stressed. It wasn't about money. The Buccaneers were extremely aggressive in their pursuit pursuit and presented a very strong offer offer demonstrating how much they value him and everything he meant to the franchise. And in the end, the decision came down to Mike wanting a new challenge and a fresh opportunity while still he feels he has a great deal left in his game. Oo, what does this say? I mean, he's been, he's been, he had opportunity to leave elsewhere and he stayed. Now you do realize Tampa, Florida doesn't have state taxes. California got the highest state taxes in the state in the United States. So for him to say basically I'm, basically no matter what, if the numbers are even, I'm taking less money because they're going to take more time. They're going to take 13, 14 of your money.
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Right?
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So if you making 5 million, you making $5 million, they're taking 750 off the rip, let alone the cost of living and what it costs to live in San Jose or whatever the case may to be. Yeah, so what, what, what, what's going on with Mike? Why do you think he wanted to change the scene? Why do you think he wanted a fresh start considering he has spent so many years in Tampa?
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In, in Tampa. I don't, I don't think, I don't think the numbers were, I don't, I think if, if it was enough, if, if it's the numbers, what, what they should have been, I think it would have stayed in Tampa, obviously. I think the 49ers offered him more and he understood the situation and going to the 49ers. Well, hold on. This is the situation where I can be that guy again.
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Yep.
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You know, they throw the ball in volume. You know, I'm, I'm going to catch a lot of passes, I'm going to score a lot of touchdowns and cont. Continue to build on my legacy. Going through Mike Shanahan. I understand that they have a, a good quarterback in Brock Purdy, so he understands that George Kittle's not going to be out again. They're going to need me. I might be able to double, maybe even triple what I can do at the receiver position, you know, in the usage rate in which, in which they're going to use me. So I think the, the, the Bucks are probably moving forward in having UKA be that number one receiver and having that complimentary, that complimentary piece and Godwin, you know, follow right behind him as a number two. Outside of that, I think the writing was on the wall. And then moving on when Mike Evans got hurt and Ibuga started having that string of games, maybe three or four games, back to back to back where he went crazy. And at that point, I think Mike made the right decision in moving on and continuing to build on, you know, on his legacy.
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Yeah, I think at this price point, I don't, I don't really. I mean, I don't think the numbers have been revealed yet, but I didn't see a scenario where they could pay. Getting on Alex, the. Alex, the Pierce sweepstake, Wandell Robinson, sweet steak. So you see some of these guys that's getting the big money. I don't, you know, considering they got Purdy on that kind of money. They got Christian McCaffrey on that kind of money. They got Kittle, who's the highest paid tight end at that kind of money. They got Bosa, they got Fred Warner, they got some guys, they got some big contracts on show. And so I just think the thing is, is that if, if Mike Evans still have some tread on the tire, I think I definitely think he can help this team. Now the question is, are they going to go. Are they going to get. Are they going to bring Jennings back? Because I thought he played well for him.
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He did.
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I thought he played extremely well.
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He did.
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Given the, the, the, the inconsistencies of what been in and out of lineup, whether it was Purdy or, or Mac Jones playing Kittle being in and out of the lineup, obviously Iuk didn't play Pierce, Pierce, Pierce all being hurt for him to, to come in and play as well as he did. I thought he did a great job, so. But we'll see what Mike Evans have. I mean, you believe he still has something. I don't know if he's going to be.
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Yeah.
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Five, six years ago, Mike Evans, but if he can give him somewhere 800 to a thousand yards, you know, seven, eight touches.
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He getting way more than a thousand in that offense. Yeah, absolutely.
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Okay.
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He's great. Run after catch.
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Yeah, yeah, that's, that's your level of expertise as the wide receiver, so I'm gonna take your word for it. But, you know, look, yeah, he's. I think the thing is a plus with Jennings Ocho. He's gonna want big money. He sees what all these other guys. I mean, you see what these other guys are making. You don't want to be the guy that go out there all of a sudden.
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Yeah.
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And get like a, a three year, 18 million dollar deal where you see guys getting. I think Wanda Robinson got what, like 20 million a year and Alec appears got like, you know, 20, 28, 29 million a year. You don't want to be the guy like, damn, bro, you afraid that's all you got. So he's, I mean, he gonna get,
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he gonna get his chance. He gonna get a chance. You gonna get. He gonna get his chance somewhere. Yeah.
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Because I think he, he definitely, he definitely earned it. He played extremely well and he deserves that opportunity. So we'll see where he ends up going. But Mike Evans is going to the.
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What's the vibe of that when it's like your star player is like, well, I want to leave. And then actually now I'm going to stick to. We talk tanking. I mean, honestly, like, I might get
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in trouble for this answer, but I
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think it's, like, definitely happening in the wnba.
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And yeah, we talk about our mistakes, too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man, we got a
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call last night, man, you can't be
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San Francisco 49ers after four years with the Ravens, Tyler Linderbaum is joining a new squad. Adam Schefter reports the center has agreed. Three years, $81 million with the Raiders. The deal includes 60 million guaranteed, an average value, the most ever, the most ever for an NFL interior lineman. 27 million a year. But things got interesting when Kyle Hamilton celebrated his teammate getting the bag on AG as a Raven fan tweeted, sometimes I wonder if Kyle Hamilton. Kyle Hamilton hates the Ravens. Guy shares the most likely signing, but not, like, comment or share relation to Crosby or other Ravens news. Maybe I'm overreacting, but it's something I've noticed for a while now.
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I mean. I mean, I'm confused. Didn't they come in together celebrating what
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they drafted in the same draft? I think Hamilton was one. And then he came in. He came in, like, later. Wasn't it. Wasn't it in the same draft? And Marlon Humphrey tweeted from the fan account saying, you're not overreacting. He's exactly who you think he is. I know him personally. Oh, what's going on?
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I don't. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It's one. It's one. I'm confused. I'm confused. I'm not in that locker room, you know, I'm on the outside looking in, just like you. So I'm finding out things that are going on over there just like you are now. I can't pinpoint what the problem is. I'm. I'm not sure what the problem is. Celebrating someone, you know, getting their deal that was a part of your team. That's weird. It was weird to me. But the fact that someone's watching close enough to be able to notice from the Outside looking in that. That says a lot.
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I mean,
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Marlon Humphrey still there, ain't he?
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And he says you're not overreacting. He's exactly who you think he is. I know him personally. Something. Look, you might be joking, but everybody don't take jokes the same way that you take them. Now, look, I understand that you want to congratulate because they were in the same draft. They were both first round draft picks. I think Kyle Hamilton went right. And then I think he went, what, 22. I think he went later. Or was he a second round pick? Okay, so. So. And I. I get your draft made. I mean, you're happy for you. I mean, guys that you came in with. Oo you happy? All of them didn't stay the whole while that you were in Cincy. They go other places you're happy for. And, And I don't know. I don't know how you handle. Obviously, we didn't have social media like this. I didn't have no Twitter and stuff like that, so. But I would be. I'd have been happy. Hey, congrats, boy. Hey, hey, let your boy hold something. Let me get a loan I can't pay back. You know, I'm gonna say something funny like that. You know what I'm saying, don't you? Cuz I'm happy. But I. I don't. I don't want to read too much into this chat. Y' all reading.
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Yeah.
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Are we, you know, underreacting? Are we? Oh, or is. Is. Is they. Are they overreacting? I'm not sure how to feel about this.
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Hey, he might. He might. He might be trolling. Yeah, he might be trolling.
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You're right, Ocho. You might be it. So I. Like I said, I'm not. I'm not really, like I said, when it comes to Marlon Humphrey, I don't really know. I don't know how. How we're supposed to take this. But look, if he's just like, you're not overreacting. This is exactly who you think he is. And then if he. I think he might be trolling too, Ocho, because he says I know him personally. Had he just left it open in. I know he's exactly who you think he is.
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Right?
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I probably like, but I think. I think I do. I do. I think Kyle Hamilton is sincerely happy for a classmate they came in in the same draft. Kyle was 14 and Linda Bond was 25. So, yeah, I'm not. I'm not taking too much of it. I mean, everything. I don't know, I just think the thing is with you, you try to, you try to give kudos to somebody and then somebody think you, you taking a shot at your former team.
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You taking a shot. Yeah.
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At your own team is like they didn't pick up his fifth year option because they felt the fifth year option was about, about 24 billion, which is about 5 to 6 million more than what Creed Humphrey, which is the highest paid centers making. And once they didn't pick up that, you know damn well if they weren't gonna pay the man, they weren't gonna pay the 23.5 or the 24 million.
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Right.
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You know damn well they wasn't about to pay 27 million with 60 million guarantee.
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Right.
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And they just, and you know you just gave up what you gave up to get Cross Crosby and they're talking about the, the type of contract that you're gonna have to give Lamar.
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Oh yeah. Oh, hey. What? Well, am I. Boy would he finish what he finna get.
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He gonna get, he gonna get 62.62mil a year. 62 a year. What Josh Allen get? What, what did Josh Allen, what was Josh Allen guaranteed? Give me, hey. Oh, give me 50 more than Josh.
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That's it.
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Hold me over.
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Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
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That's 62 and 50 more than what Josh Allen got. Josh Allen got 275. I got 275.50.
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I like it.
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Yeah, but I, I look, I, I'm, I'm not gonna read too much into this. Oh, Joe. The coach traded Michael Pittman Jr. To the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Steelers, hey, let's go pick 3 year old 59 million dollar deal. The news comes shortly after the coach decided to give Alex Pierce four years, $116 million to keep him in Indy. Oo. The Steelers now have the second best wide receiver duo in the AFC North. They got some big guys. Pitman is 64 DK 6,364. 220, 225, 230 DK about 230. They definitely got the biggest receivers.
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Yeah, I like it, I like it. Listen, Michael Pittman Jr. Been, he's been really solid the past few years. Last year he had 80 catching for 74, 784 yards, seven TDs the year before, 2024. Yeah. 69 for 808 and three TD. So he's been solid, he's been decent, you know, over the years, been a great option, you know, for the Indianapolis Colts. Now going over to the, the Pittsburgh Steelers. But still, now you got two receivers you got two big receivers that well, obviously little bit more upside with DK Methad but you got two big receivers but you still need somebody else. You still need somebody else along with that.
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I think they lost G they lost gain well oo game well, but somebody
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else came if I'm not mistaken. Right.
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I don't know.
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I could have swore. I could have swore I saw a running back go to go to the Steelers. But outside of that, you still need another, another receiver, another option.
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Rico Dowdle went to yeah.
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R do from the Panthers. From the Panthers, that's right. Regal Dowdle went. You still need another option receiver that does things differently that big receivers that big receivers do. I mean so you can't have the same everything at the receiver position. Who's the quarterback? Who's the quarterback? I like the move, you know and, and Pittman as a weapon. But, but who's going to be your quarterback?
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I, I, I know, I don't know. I think they might be hoping that Aaron Rodgers come back. I don't know if they. Cause Kenny Pickett, Kenny Pickett, he went to the Panthers. Okay.
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He went to the Panthers one year deal.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I don't think, I don't think Rudolph is coming back. So it looks like they might be in the same situation that they were last year. Ocho putting all the eggs in one in Aaron Rodgers basket.
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I mean listen, that 42 year old quarterback or maybe, maybe to be 43 year old quarterback is better than every option that's out there. Could be Regard a regards to a chat chat. I mean am I wrong? Am I wrong? Is Aaron Rodgers a better option at quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers than everyone else that's available? I mean I'm just being honest. So he has again the Steelers by the balls. Well, at damn near his entire career he's had everybody by the balls because he has the power he controls, you know, the situation because he know, he knows they need him. So I'm so excited. I'm so excited. Hey boy, I slept by 78 hours a day.
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Boy.
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I went and worked out today. I, I'm. Oh my goodness.
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Let's they going to the draft. I mean who knows? I don't know.
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The, the answer ain't in the draft.
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They might figure. Look, if we can get Aaron Rodgers back for a year and we save Ty Simpson or one of these quarterbacks that can come out and learn up them for a year.
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Ooh, right, right, right, right, right.
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But they Steelers got to figure it out. Aaron Rodgers can't Keep coming. Y' all can't keep bringing Aaron Rodgers back on one year deals. He ain't gonna play forever.
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I mean they, they have Will Howard but if Will Howard was the answer, if, if he was the answer would
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be hoping Aaron Rodgers come back and we've let it be known that we'd love to have Aaron back.
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Right? They would move on. They would move on.
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25 year old linebacker Nicobe Dean signed with the Las Vegas Raiders, reportedly agreeing to a three year deal worth 36 million. But it wasn't the length of the contract or the money that's weighed him. According to NFL Insider Jane Slater Dallas was actually very competitive in the bidding for Dean's talent and made an offer that was very similar to that made by the Raiders. Dean apparently said he could see himself in both places. In the end though, ultimately he went with his gut feeling and picked Las Vegas by what he described as to her as a 5149 margin Oo choosing the Raiders over the Cowboys. I mean both no incomes tax in either state.
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Yeah, yeah, I, I, I, I don't know. I don't know. I'm not sure what, what went about when it came down to making his decision at the end Cowboys defense, that's tough on I, I, I would love to, to, to, to, to be a fly on the wall to understand those conversations he had with his agent and when he chose to, to go to Las Vegas and why is it, is it what Las Vegas is building, is it a belief in them understanding that they, they've clean house in a sense and they're, they're going in a different direction and trying to compete, you know in the, in the afc, AFC West. Right. Yeah. And trying to get better understanding what they're going to do in the draft and getting a quarterback. I, I, I, I, I'm not sure. There's so many factors that, that play into it when it comes to making a decision of this magnitude that's going to affect your career. Especially when you go and play not to choose the Cowboys, the illustrious, the product that sells itself with a star on its helmet. Cowboys that have been relevant since, I mean what who long, who knows they move the needle.
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They do.
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To not want to come play there. To not want to come play there. I mean it had to be something.
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Yeah. When you know Clint Kubiak, you know they signed a couple of guys, they're trying, they're trying to build. They got, they got two first rounders, we know that and they got two next year, we know that. So you get an opportunity and they got money. They got money to spend. So if you, if you, if you hit it, if you hit, get the right free agents, you look at what New England did, they miss the playoffs. They signed Milton Williams and they signed Stefan Diggs and they signed a few back. Mac Hollins, you know, and you go into draft and you draft, you get a Henderson and you make a, a few right moves Ocho and you write back your business. Raiders can have that to say. Now, obviously, your quarterback's gonna have to play really well for you. But if you make. Yes, right. Free agency, hit this thing in the draft. Now, the, the, the jury is still out on your left tackle. I think he can be good. You know, you hear people talking about his sets. He's like, no, he does get overpowered. The guy, the bull, and maybe that's his left knee. Maybe he can't sit down on that knee. He needs the off season to get that knee healthy and be able to sit down. He does give up the edges because he got his ass handed to him. There's nowhere around. He got his ass handed to him in the postseason. He did. You saw, you saw the, the Texans hand him his ass. Now, now, there were premier pass rushes now Bonito.
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Yeah, they do everybody like that.
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Not no slouches.
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Yeah, they do everybody but you, the left tackle.
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You got to hold your own right.
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That's your money spot. Yeah, that's your money spot. Your money spot always got to be your weak link.
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After missing out on max crowds that the Cowboys opted for another. Another edge rusher. Rayshung Gary is headed to the Cowboys with an old teammate of Kenny Clark to bolster the Cowboys pass rush post. Michael Parsons era O Joe, do you like.
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Yes.
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The signing.
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I like it. I like. I like Rashawn Gary. I like the signing. I didn't like the disappearing act that he pulled after having nine sex the last nine games. Or maybe it was a zero.
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Nine games.
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That's. That's what I was trying to say. But he had. How many did he have before those last nine games where he went on hiatus?
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I think he had like eight. I think he had like eight and a half.
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Okay. Yeah.
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I mean, whatever the number, whatever the games. And then he had.
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Right.
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Got shut out. The last nine games.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, the last nine. So obviously once. Once Micah got there and Micah came, Micah had 12 and a half. It missed four games, and it missed four games. So I'm not sure. I think Rashawn Gary is a good signing. If he can get off to a great start like he did in Green Bay with that and have some consistency and not disappear like he did or tail off at the end of the season. I think it'd be a great, great pickup, you know, for the Dallas Cowboys. I, I and chat. Stay with me real quick. I still think they, they might be in a play for Trey Henderson or is that deal off the table because you got Rashawn Gary?
Ocho
What do you think? I think they're going to replay a 3, 4. So if they're gonna play a 34, you put Henderson as a stand up linebacker, you put Gary as a stand up linebacker and you will probably have Quinnie Williams and Odiggy Zoo as your end and then you probably have Kenny Clark as your nose.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So listen, do you just, based off what you just said just there, I mean obviously on paper with names, it sounds good. They still have to play as a unit all together collectively, but to me it sounds good. I'm not sure if, if they're going to have the money to do so and a lot of people say, oh, they don't have the money. I don't think people understand when teams want to do something, there's a way to move money around. You do understand that, right? Yeah, there's always a way to move money around. There's no way to stop them. When they want to sign a player individually. They, they can restructure and they did and manipulate whatever numbers they need to
Ocho
to get who they redid Dax contract. They restructured Dak, they restructured a cd, they restructured Tyler Smith, they did something with Terrence Steele. So they, they got, they got a little money to play with. I don't know if they're going to do something with Derog Bland probably if they rework those contract over Diggy Zua, right. Quinny Williams and Kenny Clark probably give him some more money to play with because you know, you just kick the can down the road. You know, you tear the contract up, add portable years and you know I'm saying and give them the signing bonus Ocho. So I think that's what it's going to do. Yeah, I, I think the thing for me is that they give up a fourth round draft pick, pay the guy 19 and a half million dollars this year, he has 20, 22 and a half million next year, but it's not guaranteed. And then when you look at Khalil Mack, he just signed a one year deal for 18 million. Me personally, Khalil Mack is a better player. I think the thing is that when you look at Rashawn Garrett, he's a guy that's never had a double digit sack season. And you mentioned something very interesting. The last nine games, zero sacks. It's hard for me to see a scenario because, you know, Michael's getting double team. It's hard for me to see a scenario where you can't get one sack, two sacks with all the attention with the guy on the other side. It's kind of like if you a wide receiver and you play with another great wide receiver, you can't tell me, you mean to tell me you can't get a couple of touchdowns, you can't get or have a couple big games when I know they're giving attention to the other guy on the other side. So that was, that would I, I'm not, I'm not saying, look, maybe he was hurt, but I'm saying that would cause me to pause like, okay, now what's going. Let me, let me, let me, let me try to dive a little deeper to see what's really going on. Right?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah. Matter of fact, hold on. And let me, let me, let me get the Raiders. Mac Crosby is going to Baltimore. Who's replay who's replaced Max.
Ocho
They're probably gonna go in the draft.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Do they?
Ocho
Because you got the first pick of the draft and you got number 14.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So I'm thinking with Rashawn Gary, if the Cowboys feel they, they feel their need at the defensive position as far as offseason acquisitions go and they want to work at other levels that they do have, then I say maybe Trey Henderson, if I, I don't, I don't see a scenario where he signs back. No, that ain't, I mean, what they. That mean, Obviously that's, that's not gonna happen. So maybe there's a scenario where Trey Henderson ends up in, in, in Vegas.
Ocho
Possible.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I, I tweet, I tweeted, okay, Trey Henderson is going to end up a Cowboy. I tweeted it because I, I wholeheartedly believe it. But when they got Rashawn Gary, I'm like knowing Jerry, knowing the way he is, he's not very aggressive, not too aggressive in the off season. I mean, listen, he may, he made a move.
Ocho
Yeah, he seemed to be more active than he's ever been in his life. You see, he tried to make a play for Nicole Dean. He makes the, you know, he traded, traded for Quinny Williams. Yes, he traded Micah and he got compensation back. And so you see some of the moves that he's making. This is the first time that we've seen Dallas really spending the off season or really try to make moves and not no C or D level moves. These are. Look, it remains to be seen how Rashawn Gary is going to play out. But to try to go into freezing and get into Kobe Dean because that is a, that is a, a position of need. Your linebackers. Your linebackers need. They need.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho
And the player. 3, 4, Ocho, your back has got to be good in the 3, 4. They got to be some thoughts.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, they got to be. They got to be. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Ocho
Seattle Seahawks are bringing back wide receiver Rasheed Shahid on a 3 year 51 million dollar contract. Ocho 34.7 million guarantee. Shaheed joined cornerback Josh Job as clee players returning to the defending super bowl champion in free agency. Seattle, however, lost both Super Bowl MVP Kenneth Walker to the Chiefs and defensive back Kobe Bryant to the Bears to join a new team. Did Seattle do enough to try to run it back now? Oh, I gotta save a little something cuz, you know, you know, oo, you know, a spoon and you know, jsn, I got, I got to take care of them.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Ocho
Kind of want to like, kind of want to do a little something for Sam Donald, let him know that we really appreciate what he did.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I mean, I mean, listen, you know, they know how to manipulate those numbers. They know what they, what they need to do. You got to take care of jsn. You got to take care of Witherspoon because they have been phenomenal. Those are key pieces to your, to your team in general. I'm not sure when it's gonna happen. I'm. I don't know. I'm. I'm waiting. I'm waiting. Have they done enough to fill in to make a repeat or have a run run again? I'm not sure the defense will look the same as it did this year. You can find pieces. Are you gonna, Are you gonna find someone that's going to fill in that position at, at the defensive back position and do it Tyreek willing was able to do? I mean, they had that nickname for a reason. They had the nickname for a reason. So if you're not bringing back that same squad with the same players that had that continuity, that continuity, will it be the same? You know, will Sam Donald play as well as he did this season? Hell, well, he proved he could do it. He went from Minnesota, playing well in Minnesota and ain't missing beat in Seattle. So I mean you would see him now already Being paid you. You would see some consistency, you know, on his part. So I'm sure they probably will look just as good.
Ocho
And you go back to the Raiders, they also signed Quay Walker from the, from Green Bay. Cause remember Green Bay traded the line linebacker. They traded for what's the Indianapolis Colts guy. They traded 44 him and he was on the 520 show.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Zaire, Zaire Franklin. Zaire Franklin.
Ocho
They traded for Zaire Quay Walker who was University of Georgia. Hey, as a matter of fact I think Quay, Quay and Nicobe played together. I think. So now they got the Georgia Georgia boys reunited. Because you know, they had two Georgia boys and. And we had three.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho
With Philly Carter and Davis and the Kobe Dean.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right.
Ocho
And so.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, I still don't understand. I know you just said it. I don't understand how they let Zaya Zaya Franklin go.
Ocho
But he's now, hey, he gonna stop the run now.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Goodness, he'd be all over the place.
Ocho
He'll thumper. Hey, he. I don't know what defense they gonna run, but he'll Perfect for a 3, 4 defense. Cause he a big, he a big ass that can take on guards. Obviously you know, when you're that size you're not going to be as nimble and play the covered pass that well. So he'll probably be coming out on third down. But I, you know, I like to pick for Green Bay. Green Bay's like we need to get better in run defense and they felt, you know, Quay is more agile. But it's going to be interesting to see. I like what the Raiders have done so far. That doesn't translate. Just cause you spent a boatload of money in free agency, Ocho doesn't mean it's going to translate automatically if that,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
if that's the case, hey listen, that's the case. The goddamn status would have translated based on what they, what they acquired in the off season with all that elite talent that they had.
Ocho
So it's going to be very. But you know, we're not surprised that we see this kind of movement. We normally see this movement the first two days. Ocho. The Tennessee Titans are signing ex Giants wide receiver Wandell Robinson. Four years, $8 million. Robinson is set to reunite with Giants head coach Brian Dayball in Tennessee on a four year 78 million dollar deal. 38 million of it, which is guaranteed. Robinson kicked off his big day to join the Titans who signed defensive lineman John Franklin Myers to a hefty three year deal. 63 million dollars. Quarterback Alante Taylor to a three year 60 million dollar deal. The top the Titans spent a whopping 270 billion dollars on free agents today. Ocho another Giant A notable ads former Giants Cordell float backup quarterback Mitchell Trubisky. Ocho, did the Titans do a number one do it do enough to support number one overall draft pick last year, Cam Ward.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Listen, I like Wanda Wright. I like what he did with the Giants last year. One day, I'm sorry Wanda Robinson. I like what he did with the Giants last year. He had some flashes, flashes of brilliance. I think they still need to do more. They need to do more, especially on the office, on the offensive end to add more pieces or more weapons around Cam Ward. Calvin, really coming back, coming back from an injury. I'm not sure what's that going to look like. I'm not sure what the timetable is for his return. But they still need a guy. I'm talking about, I'm talking about that, that I almost said the N word.
Ocho
They need, they need that boy dog out there. No, this is.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? One you can count on no matter what. But again, it's still early. This is, there's some other pieces that, that you could, that you can continue to add. So I'm excited for Cam Ward. I just, I'm hoping that they do more and add more weapons around him so he doesn't have the issues like he had last year. There were, there were many issues offensively for them last year.
Ocho
You're not, you could never have too many weapons for your quarterback at all. The Denver Broncos are bringing back running back J.K. dobbins on a 2,20 million dollar deal. The deal includes 8 million fully guaranteed. Dobbins led the Broncos and carries 153 rush yards, 772 and runs of at least 10 yards, 21. But he also didn't play after November 6th because of a foot injury he suffered in Thursday night in the win over the Raiders. Last season, Dobbins played failed to play more than 10 games for the fourth time in his six year NFL career. In 2021, he missed a season because of a torn ACL and played just one game in 2023 before tearing his Achilles. Ocho, do you like this move?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, I like it, I like it. I'm not sure. I mean, oh, that, that's tough. Especially at that running back position. It's like, it's tough. I'm not, I'm not sure what to say unless you're, you know, the, the elite of the Elite, are you going to make that much of a difference based on that position? Are you going to be that much better than what they already had? I'm trying to say it without being,
Ocho
you know, they signed RJ Harvey. I think he was a, might have been a first round draft pick or second round draft pick out of ucf. It's just that I think the thing is this, this is an okay deal. You didn't pay a whole lot of money. You only gave him 8 year, 8 million fully guaranteed. Based on his injury history. Ocho, I couldn't go longer than that. I'm surprised they went two years. I probably would have went one year. But I understand spacing it out because you know the 8 million fully guaranteed, so you get to spread it out over two years. But based on his injury history, something tells me that he's going to miss time because he's missed time the last four years. Ocho, he didn't play after November 6th. You know how many games there's still games in December. They still had one regular season game in January. So he missed, he missed maybe seven games. And then, you know, he coming off an ACL in 21, he turned Achilles injury in 23, he got nicked in 24, he's nicked in 25.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He's asking me, listen, when he's healthy though, he's had some flashes.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He finally. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, absolutely.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He's had some flashes with the Ravens, with the Broncos. I mean, I don't, I don't know that that's a tough one to talk about due to his injury history. I, I don't like bringing up people's piss. You know, people's history and how much they've been hurt and, and what they can offer a team. Obviously they feel he can, he can do them some justice, which is why he's there.
Ocho
Oh, yo, Dan Olosky was on get up this morning talking about what Max Crosby trade means for Lamar. Jackson Dio said, I love Lamar. There ain't no more excuses. That's all in Lamar responded on Twitter X. Excuse me, Dan. There's never been excuses for Lamar though.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I like that. Hey, you know, hey, he, he don't say much. He don't talk much. The fact that he even responded was cool. You heard me. The fact that he even responded was cool because he don't, he don't say that. He'll never fire back. You will never say nothing. So it's good to see that for a change again from a superstar A mega superstar in the, in the game. I wish a little bit, I wish a few more of them would open up and go back and forth when they, when they don't agree with some, you know, a certain opinion of what, whatever it may be, especially in the off season, you know, and enjoy, enjoy yourself, you know, Let the people see a different side of you for a change.
Ocho
I think I, I, I, I think Ocho, I think, look, last year we thought it was the defense because we saw the leads that they have, Ojo and the lead and, and, and they weren't able to hold those. I think the thing is, is that offensively I still believe they need another receiver outside of Zay. They've got to feel the hole at right guard. That right guard is just. Oof. Jesus. But I don't, I, I don't.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He might get better. He might get better this off season, huh? The right guard might get better this off season. Understanding and watching film, knowing how you embarrass yourself because your name plate is on the back of that jersey every time you play and you snap, it's, it's snap down. There's no way you watch film in the meeting rooms with your officer teammates, your office alignment and think you're gonna come back looking like that next year. That's embarrassing.
Ocho
We ain't gonna be able to watch film today. So what happened to the machine? I don't know. Ocho. Do you know how embarrassing that is? Oho, we've all been in meetings and, and they played, they played offensive series in front of the offense. The wide receivers are in there, the tight ends are in there, the running backs, the quarterback, we're in there, the offensive line and you f up. Yeah. Do you know how embarrassing that is? Now just imagine how many times they cut the film on and he getting run by.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, it's the same person over and over, over and over. Same one.
Ocho
So I don't know. I think the thing is, is that we'll see. They don't have a first round pick. Are they done in free agency? Are they going to try to get another, are they going to try to get another wide receiver to go with Zay? I know they gave Baitman some money, but Baitman, I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened to him last year. Oo too many games. He disappeared and he dropped too many passes.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They, they need a new center too. You talking about the right, right tackle they now they need. They got a new center.
Ocho
Yeah, they do. But that right guard Lord have mercy.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, that's a big boy, too. That's a big boy.
Ocho
Be that terrible and big. And, and for no reason.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho
I think the thing is, is that look, Lamar is like, I, I've never had no Lamar. We know you don't make excuses, but I think sometimes what Dio is kind of alluding to is that people making excuses for you. You're not making no excuses. You like, hey, we got to play better. I got to play better. The one thing I can say about you is that when you don't play well, you'll step to the mic and says, I got to play better. That's on me. I got to do a better job of seeing it. I got to do a better job of reacting. I got to be a better job of throwing the football and leading this football team. Lamar Jackson. I've never heard Lamar Jackson make any excuses. He's never placed the blame. But I think the thing is that what fan base that, that, that tries. Well, he doesn't have this or he doesn't have that. Look, they're going to pay him a king's ransom. He's going to be the highest paid quarterback in the league. They went and got somebody on the defense. I don't think they can be done, Ocho. I don't, I don't.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No. Absolutely no.
Ocho
No, no. I don't know if you can spend that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Got too many holes to feel, huh? They got too many holes.
Ocho
I agree, I agree. I don't think you can spend that kind of money like you spent with Max Crosby. But I think you, you know, they got, you got to get some more people, man. You got to get some more and your corners. And I don't know what they're going to do with, with, with hump, but your corners got to play better. They just got to. And maybe they will play better because you're not going to have the time to pat the ball back there with cross.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, no.
Ocho
So it's going to be very, very interesting. Like I said, I, I, I want Lamar to win one because I see when guys win one championship how it feels like the, the every, the, the release that you get.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho
Now I can really got the monkey.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You got the monkey off your back.
Ocho
Yes, Ocho, yes. Yes. And you know, he's too good.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean for him.
Ocho
A three time mvp. He's a two time mvp. I still don't care what nobody say. And Josh was phenomenal. But not that year. Not that year, not that year. But anyway, Lamar, go be Lamar. And can you give us three games on Lamar Jackson in the playoffs? The Lamar Jackson that we've seen in the regular season, the guy that's, that, that's a two time league mvp. A guy that was in the running that finished second for in league MVP Ocho. Can he give us three games in which he plays like that? Because if he gives us three games where he plays like that, yeah, they get into the super bowl because he can single hand, single handedly lift the team, take over. Yes, absolutely. We've seen it throw for 400 yards. We've seen him run for 150. We've seen him do a combination where he throws for 235 and three touchdowns and runs 405 and give you another two touchdowns. So we've seen him, he got a big running back that can chew up clock that can chew up, that can chew up time. We just need, we just need that. We just need the guy that's a superman number eight. We just need that guy to show up in the postseason. He shows up in the postseason. I think he'll put everything, everything that's been said about him negatively. I think he can put it to bed. I think he puts it to bed. But I like what the Ravens are doing. They're going for it. They're going to bring the, they're going to pay Lamar. I think they need another receiver. They need a right guard. I don't think they're done defensively. They're going to fill, fill some holes in over there and I think they'll definitely be better for it. You see the Steelers are adding big wide receivers. You see what Cincinnati is doing defensively. They're trying to get better. Cleveland is Cleveland. We'll see what, we'll see what happens with Cleveland and where they are defensively. I think they're going to be good. I don't know who's going to be orchestrating the defense, but look, you got the two, you got a two time defensive player of the year. You got a top corner over there. That's a start. And you got the defensive rookie of the year. So you got some nice pieces. Devin Bush is in Chicago now, so you probably have to feel that, feel that hole. But they got some, they got some, they got a, they got a nice foundation defensively. I think the problem is for Cleveland's offensively, but we don't think Cleveland's in the class with, with the Baltimores or Cincinnati's or.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, they got a ways to go before they get to, before they get into that conversation. You think tomorrow. Tomorrow is going to be a. A heavy day of movement like it was today?
Ocho
Yeah, it'd be somewhat. Maybe not, because everybody, you know, everybody getting that, that, that fast action. Now, all these contracts are officially signed, sealed, and delivered on Wednesday.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right?
Ocho
But, yeah, I think we'll see a frenzy. I think. I think we'll see some more. Some more things happen.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Hey, but, but. But today was exciting, boy. I. I put my notifications for Adam Schefter and the nf. Yeah, I have another. Hey, I wanted to hear how every time something came through, I wanted to be the first. I wanted to know as soon as it happened, so.
Ocho
Oh, yo, I got some sad news to share with you.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, no, no, no. Don't do that because, you know, I'm emotional.
Ocho
Magic City Monday is not happening at the Atlanta Hawks home arena. What the plan Promotion Atlanta cultural institution was scrapped by the NBA one week before it was set to take place. While we are very disappointed the NBA's decision to cancel out Magic City Night, we fully respect its decision. As a franchise, we remain committed to celebrating the best of Atlanta with authenticity in ways that continue to unite and bring us all together. That's from the Hawks official page. Adam Silver said that they had some. Some concerns with sponsors and other, you know, affiliated investors with the league and said that, you know, that's not a good look.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, they got a little pushback. Yeah, they. They had a little pushback, that's all. Especially when it comes to certain spots, man. They. I think they know that they just didn't want to be associated with what it is, you know, they wanted. They want to do they dirt. That. That. That is. They want to do their dirt behind closed doors. They want to do their dirt behind. Hey, I'm so should. I'm still going to the game, though. I'm still going to the game with Joe.
Ocho
Let me see you. Hey, what you know about that?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, I remember them. Yeah.
Ocho
Yeah, man. Oh, man,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
they didn't mess it up, man. Damn.
Ocho
All right, time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Damn. Hey, who the. Who the Hawks was playing? Huh?
Ocho
I'm not sure. Before we get to the super chat, we got a video voicemail from our Discord. So, guys, make sure you join and submit your videos. And hey, who knows? We might even show it on the show. Let's take a look. This one comes from Twig. Yo, what's. Good night, cat family. It's your boy, Tristan.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Y' all see Who I'm rocking. Y' all gonna see us in the Western Conference finals.
Ocho
Best believe it. Best believe it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho, I just wanted to say I
Ocho
appreciate everything y' all do. You know, y' all keep me going. Y' all take a good two hours
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
out of my night shift. So I'll just wanted to say I appreciate y'.
Ocho
All.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And oo you need to stop playing with my boy Jerry Jones like that, man.
Ocho
You already see what he's doing in free agency. What? Hey, we gonna get picked what he deserves and more. And we got something coming.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I feel it. Bro.
Ocho
Let me be delusional. Yeah. Slurpucino. Let's go. Devin Lloyd to the Carolina Panthers. I in the south and a playoff push. I thought he played really well for Jacksonville. Oo I. I like this. I like what the Panthers are doing. They got a nice look. Look. Got to the playoffs last year. You, you. You see what the quarterback Bryce Young got better Those receiving Cor McMillan was offensive rookie of the year. Now they just need a just get a little better and better. Just. Just improve on that defense. You know, you big Derrick Brown and you got some pieces. You got Devin Lloyd. Now I like this. I like what Carolina's doing.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, big time.
Ocho
13th Cabin Saints are up and coming for my spurs. Might be champ soon. It's been a good few months. Also. OO look like dmx little brother with that back on first on that back on first take. You on first take. R. Pruitt.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, listen. Hey, hey. If you ain't on first take, I ain't going on first take.
Ocho
R. Pruitt. Mike Average ruined Buck's legacy by abandoning ship. Most teams push players out of his age, but he took less money to leave after already getting a ring and had and a Hall of Fame career. That's a slap in our face, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Please. Don't nobody. Don't nobody know the numbers. He ain't take no less. Nothing
Ocho
big perk. Hey, guys. Your podcast is fire best on the night side. That shade is smooth as baby's bottom. Ocho, you ought to give away one of your cigars to go with that shade by Shay Cognac. Va. Stand up. Love you guys. Hi, Michelles. We appreciate you, man. I appreciate the support. Yeah, because we got that thing down in Virginia. It is in Virginia. So we was down there. We appreciate that. Tanya Manning. She owned those blue diamonds. Bta. Hook her up. Tinderism Lee basis. Who's more delusional? Clarissa thinking she could be the man or OO thinking he could score A point on ISO.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, wait, so. So. So you telling me whoever this is, you don't believe in me to score a point?
Ocho
One point. Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man. Ap. They got me.
Ocho
They got you all the way messed up.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Don't worry about it. They got me all the way messed up. Like it's. It's almost. It's. It's offensive. It's disrespectful. I respect ISO Joe being the player that he is. But saying an elite athlete like myself can go into his game and score 1.1. Man. You man. Stop playing with me.
Ocho
VD Nation UNC is not back in dials. He's standing on business. Look, I just voiced my opinion. I don't believe that Clarissa can beat a champion male fighter. I don't. That's not to say that she's not a good fighter, but I don't believe that she could. And. And. And me. And the only thing I said. Look, Chris. Only thing I said is that like. And you made it personal. She like. Well yeah, I did make it personal because I took it personal because you said I was gonna be able to do something. Clarissa. That's my opinion. That's. You do realize that's how opinions work. But she was a great. She. Look, she was a great sport about it. She believes it. Me personally, I hope it doesn't happen. Ocho. There's a reason why. Ocho. You remember how. I mean over the last couple of years we've seen men playing these ladies sport in high school, in college and people are. It's not fair. They're too strong and yada, yada, yada. There's a reason.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. It's not. It is not. It's ridiculous. The fact that they even pass rules to allow them to do that.
Ocho
I don't know. You a man. You play a man. You play a man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What the world.
Ocho
If you're a woman, you play a woman's sport. Don't take your big rusty ass over there trying to compete with the women. A big game. 268 Ocho. This is strike two. You didn't have unback versus Asante Samuel. And you got real quiet when Charissa came on. Don't worry. The chat got. You
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
got real quiet about what? I said the same thing.
Ocho
No man. Look. I think a lot of times like you we. The thing I talked to Ocho about. I said we got to be careful. We can't respond to everything because a lot of times people trying to stay in an algorithm and. And. And right now my name considered what happened last year, and everybody knows you mentioned me, and you want to get into a. And then you want our audience to. To lend the ear to your podcast. No, we built this. We built this podcast. We didn't take shots at anybody. We just felt we produce very, very good content. We talk about sports, we talk about a lot, A lot of things, but we didn't take shots at anybody. We didn't put anybody down. We didn't. To get to where we got. We didn't step on anybody. And that's not what.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We didn't have to. We didn't have to. No, I was gonna say we didn't have to. A lot of people, in order for other people to gain traction, for one, what they have to do is they have to turn everything negative and in order to get the views, in order to get people's attention with us. We've always been authentic in talking sports and talking cultural stuff that is going on in the world today. And we do it just being ourselves. We don't have to talk about people to. To get people's attention or to get people to watch the show. And just. I think that's what kind of separates from. Separates us from. For them. In order to get the needle moving, you got to take shots in certain areas.
Ocho
Yes.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And I mean, at this point, I, I guess it best we just don't respond because we understand what it does for their platform as opposed to ours. That's.
Ocho
Yes. I mean, listen, they don't understand, okay, you might get a few. You might go viral, but at some point in time, they're gonna. And people might click and they want to hear what you got to say. At some point in time, you just can't keep talking about what Shannon was this and Shannon did that, and Shannon Sharp this and Shannon Sharp that, and Shannon Sharp likes this guy, and Shannon Sharp likes that guy. At some point in time, you're gonna have to produce content that doesn't have Shannon Sharp in it. At some point in time, you're gonna have to produce content where you're not trying to say Nightcap is not in it. We don't talk about any other. We give credit. We don't talk about any of any other podcast. We. Because we think our knowledge of a particular sport on given sports, we can talk about things and be serious about it, but we can all make. Also make things funny and make lighter situations. And look, everybody's gonna take his stuff, run with it. And I see people, they stuff that I said in the very beginning, the very Beginning the very first year. The very six, seven months. Ocho in the first year of the show. They're replaying it now and says, okay, this is why. That ain't why. Get a life. Create content where you don't talk about me. Can you do that? No, you can't. That's why your podcast isn't growing, because people don't tune in to hear you talk about Shannon all the time. Okay. It's fine and good. Maybe I gave you something to talk about, but every other. Every other show is about me. I mean, there are times that people are taking shots at Ocho, and Ocho, like, no, don't worry about it. I see. They take shots at me. Don't even pay. We have an opinion on sports. We don't have an opinion on your podcast or what you're doing. You're perfectly fine to talk about whatever you want to talk about, but at some point in time, your listeners want to hear you talk about something else other than me. I promise you.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho
82 8, 828 style. Hey, why didn't you just say no to the question? What question? I don't understand. What. Why didn't Ocho just say no to the question? Oh, he's saying, when I asked, do you think she could beat Rolly? And. And. And. And I think that's what. That's what he was asking. Why did you just say no?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't. I don't need to. I don't need to say no. I need to explain it the same way I explained it when we were on together. I need to explain it the same way I explained it when she was. When she was on her. Did you hear how she explained it? I said. I said, you would not beat him, but you are a better boxer. And she said the same thing. Because it comes down to skill. If he catches her, she's going to sleep.
Ocho
I said that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't need to say no. I need to explain the exact way. You gonna tell me how to answer my damn question?
Ocho
Here's the thing. Let me. If. If you ever. If you ever get on national television.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, sir.
Ocho
And you're in the debate. They don't really do debate like we used to do it at Undisputed.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Back then. Yeah. Yeah.
Ocho
But if you ever get into a debate, never introduce an argument that doesn't support your case, because when you said Clarissa has better boxing skills, the only reason. The only reason you introduce that, if it supports your argument that she can win. An attorney told me that he said, Shannon, I'll never introduce. I'll never introduce an argument that doesn't help my client, because now what you've done is that. Hold on. You said she got better boxing skills. Will she win? No, she does. Why would you introduce that? Because now that helps me.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay, I see what you mean. But. But still, because it's a man and woman, though, that's.
Ocho
That. That's fact.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But she's still the better boxer. That's. That's all right. She's the better pure boxer. Now, when you get a chance to watch Rolly fight again and you see the awkward movements and that's what makes them dangerous, you. You'll see what I mean. But I mean, just because it's a guy, you won't win. But she's.
Ocho
You. Herky jerky movement. Pack out.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah. He always bounced.
Ocho
Yes, he always bounce.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you never know when something's coming.
Ocho
Hey. Left, right. You don't know what made Roy Daniel. He was like, you think Roy gonna hit you with a left? And he. Boom, right down the middle with a right. And you expecting the right, sitting on the right. And now he check hook you.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho
Those are what makes people dangerous.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, sir.
Ocho
Look, Floyd is. Floyd was just supreme. I mean, Floyd is just textbook the way he can roll with punches, the way he can pull, counter, the way he can catch punches. But that's unique. Everybody ain't got that. Yeah, it's just like, everybody can't run routes like jsn. They just can't. Ocho, everybody can't run routes like you. Now, what I gotta do is that if I play the wide receiver position and I don't have feet and I'm not smooth like jsn, I still got to get open.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, you got. You got.
Ocho
Why you can't? I can't because I ain't got feet like Ocho. I don't. So I still have to have a way. And so. But look, she came on here, guys. She explained. She explained her point. The only thing I was saying is that you can't take someone's opinion personal. Somebody might not like a actor or an actress. That doesn't mean they're not great. I don't particularly like their movies, so I don't go see them. I still. I think they're phenomenal, but that's just me. Ashley Nunes. Hey, guys. I just wanted to shout out my husband, Vaughn. Our daughter Arielle turned one today. He's been amazing. And I also want to say, Ocho scared of Clarissa. Ashley, thank you so much, Ariel. Tell Ariel happy birthday. Happy one year. Well, I guess you say. I don't know. I guess you say 12 months. I don't think you say two until you say 13 months, 14 months, 15 months. How old is she? She's one. And then you go 13, 14, 15, all the way up to two, and then when you go to. So forth.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So.
Ocho
But, Ashley, thank you for your support. Thank you for watching. Tell your husband congratulations on the baby. And, Ariel, happy first birthday. Terence G. Somebody needs to take Ms. Shields phone, computer, laptop, and social media now. Let her have it. Scuba Steve up. Can you have Jon Jones or Julio Jones on Club Shay? Shay been working on it. We working on it. Trust me. TS car wash detail service if the clippers getting out of the first round. Kawhi got 45 tonight. Got 45 what? Tonight, Kawhi had 29. Did he? I thought he had 29. He had 45. Yeah. Got 45 ts, man, you be on that. That sauce D barner show love all the way from Indiana. Sipping on Shave by Laporte. I wish your boy a happy 27th birthday. Shout out to my two favorite and big bro Ocho D. Thank you for the support, man. Appreciate it. You know, it's smooth. Hey, you see everybody? Come on, Club Shay Shay. Even. Even white guys. Just a man. I ain't never had Kanye talking about, man. Damn, it's smooth. We got some guys coming up, so.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho
Drunk a bottle and a half. Some of them drunk a whole bottle in one city. One sitting, man. Right? Turn the thing. I'm like, bro, I thought we were sipping. He's like, oh, I thought we were. No, it's a Kanjak, and you don't shoot it right. But, you know, we had side cars made. We had a big old block. You know what I'm saying? So that's the way we're going now. We're gonna have two drinks. We're gonna have the. We're gonna have it straight. And then we're gonna have, you know, people make sidecars or determination. You know, something like that. So I like that. I'm kind of. I like that. I like that. But, hey, make sure you go check out that Matt Rife episode. He's unbelievable. I really like him. And I told him he invited us to the show.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Funny.
Ocho
But I didn't get in late.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Which one?
Ocho
I didn't get in late to D.C. ocho. And so by the time I got in, I'd have been rushed to try to get there and try to get back to do nightcap. But Ocho, that joker showed up by himself. No security, no handlers, just walking down the street. Jordan come back like, hey, boss, he here. I was like, who? I said, where's people at? So, nah, he's just walking down the street by himself.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What?
Ocho
But he. He. He's amazing. He's amazing. Eric, Jordan, Scott, Ocho, I got Chelsea over psg, man. City over Real Madrid. Hey, I like that you stood on business with Clarissa. He got good heart. Yes, man. Look, I love it. She sat down. She was good enough to. But I really love the fact that the matter is, Ocho, because a lot of times, Ocho, we say stuff, and people don't want to come on to defend their point or what we said. Give her credit. She believes it. She's entitled to believe what she wants to believe. But I felt that I can make my points, and I. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, because like I said, Carissa, all the great things that I've said, you bypassed that. And because I gave you an opinion. Gave an opinion that I don't think you could beat rolling, you took what I said personally, Ocho, he said he got Chelsea over psg, man. City over Real Madrid. You got.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I like. I like it. PNG is not important right now. So Chelsea probably will. Chelsea probably will win that game. Real Madrid, man. City. That's a tough one. That's a toss up. That. That's. That's 50. 50. I'm not sure if mbapping's gonna play. I'm not sure how his knee is feeling. He was hurt, but we'll. We'll see tomorrow. We'll see tomorrow. So I'm excited that he talked about Champions League. Champions League is tomorrow.
Ocho
Soccer King Jet music. Yo, what's up, Uncle Nocho? It's your boy Kale again. My wife Terry has a birthday today, the 10th. Can she get a shout out? Our birthday. Three days apart. Locked in for l. For life. Yes, you absolutely can. Kale. Thank you, man, for chiming back in. Ms. Terry, happy birthday today, hopefully you did something special. Probably took it to a nice dinner. Probably had the rose petals all the way leading up to the bedroom. You know you own them. Sparks hard. Already know. Yeah, man. Yep. New bed. Probably had to reinforce the bed to make sure because you jumping up and down. But happy birthday, Ms. Terry. KL thank you, man, for the support. We greatly appreciate that, and hopefully you guys do stay locked in for life. Leona Rose, love the show as always. Will there be any More live shows coming up this summer or in the future. Uno, Ocho laportier. We're looking at that. That is something that we're, we're weighing. You know, your boy about to have his surgery. See how this old knee hold up. I can't be out there on crutches.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nah, nah. I put you in a wheelchair. We put you in a wheelchair.
Ocho
We definitely, we're definitely, we're definitely looking into that. And if it were, it would be. It would be kind of like they were last time, I think. What would we have, like, July, August? I think it'll be something like that. So we got the World cup right now, obviously, we can't do it during the cup because we're going to be focusing on that, but we'll get back to you. We'll. We'll keep you, keep you abreast of what, what our schedule's looking like. Daniel Wells, Uncle Nocho, can you please give my baby Caitlyn a happy birthday shout out? Absolutely. Daniel. Caitlin, Happy birthday. Something fun. I don't know, you get, you know, you get a puppy, you get a. One of those little, little mini, little mini horses. Maybe a new car to you. But Daniel, happy birthday. And Caitlyn, happy, happy birthday, Caitlyn.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Happy birthday to you.
Ocho
Harold Horvitz. The Raiders offense is dead in the water today as Frenchy has secured their future with Fernando Mendoza. Yeah, that looked like a. A very easy. A very easy pick. Yeah, obviously. Tell my lady I love her. Ms. Erica Hester. Ms. Erica Hester. Hess says he love you. Simple as that. He ain't got nothing else to add. No fancy cat, no fancy sayings, no great wording, no funny fonts. Just. He love you. If KJ Gaming one. Hey, what are your thoughts on GP not pursuing the big game players, but only resigning players and releasing Greenlawn? Look, you got Bonito, you played Court. And Sutton, you paid Sir Tan, you played Hafanga, you paid Garrett Wils. Garrett Bowles, your quarterback. You're gonna have to do something with him, Bo. Nick's coming up real soon, so I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. Look, I think. And I would love to have to keep Franklin, but it was just. You can't keep everybody. And when you're good, I mean, you're going to lose good players. That's just the way it is. It's Maddie. 17 is closer to a ring than 8 is. Let's talk about it. Especially if Pat isn't in the way. Well, look, Josh has lost a couple of AFC championship games to Mahomes.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho
Lamar's lost one to Mahomes. Is six in one hand, half a dozen in the other. Until one actually get there. Who are we to say that? Who's closer? Are we sure? Because it's not like Buffalo. I mean, Pat was removed and what, Baltimore didn't make it. And, and, and, and, and Josh, that was Buffalo's year. Didn't play well. Bear game. 268. Which receiver tandem will have a better year? Chase Higgins, Lamb, Pickens. And which team will miss the playoffs earlier?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, how you can't guess what team is gonna miss the playoffs this early. I can tell you who's gonna have the better season, though.
Ocho
Chase Higgins.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. And listen, they not gonna be too, they, they, they not gonna be too far behind if they're together.
Ocho
If they're together.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm just saying.
Ocho
That completes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank each and every one of you for joining us. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite aunt and my partner and co host, the Cincinnati Great, six time Pro Bowler all Pro, Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. Do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support. It's nice like this. We really, really appreciate it. We appreciate everything that you've done. All the eyes, all the ears, all the word of mouth that you've spread and you've talked about Nightcap. We can't thank you enough. We got this Discord thing. Hey, chime in. Let us know how can we get better Nightcap. These are some of the things that we'd like to see you Unc and Ocho. We would like to see you improve upon. These are like some of the things that we'd like to see you do and we can see if we can implement, implement them and give you the best viewing and listening experience we possibly can. Because that's at the end of the day, that's what this is all about. Yeah, we like to talk about what we like to talk about, but we like to give the listener, the viewing, the viewing audience a great experience. So however we can improve that, please let us know. And again, thank you for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shea by La Portier and it's unavailable in a state or city near you, head to laportiercognac.com and purchase you a bottle. The premium VSOP cognac. The best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market. Try it compared against other cognacs and I'm guaranteeing you will see we have the smoothest, best tasting cognac on the market. Please drink responsible and stay safe. We want to thank our very, very special guest. 2 time Olympic gold medalist, 3 time undisputed champion, undisputed heavyweight champion, 5 division world champion, 1803 KOs Clarissa Shields for joining us and standing on her point of view that she believes that she can beat Rollie in a fight. We don't. And so at least I don't. But it was, it was, it was great to have on. Clarissa, thank you. You know you always welcome and as always that when it comes to your fights, you know we're going to promote it. We know we're going to talk about it because we, we respect you, we love you and we, we thank you for the support. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite unc. And that is my partner and co host, Liberty City Zone. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson. We're off tomorrow. We'll see you on Wednesday. Peace.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Hey, Buzz, stop ducking me.
Date: March 10, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (“Ocho”) & Chad Ochocinco Johnson
This special “Nightcap” episode of Club Shay Shay dives deep into a wild night of NFL Free Agency news, with Hall of Famer Shannon Sharpe and former star receiver Chad Johnson reacting live to major player moves around the league. The episode captures Ocho and Unc’s trademark energetic banter as they break down the effects of headline-grabbing signings including Mike Evans’ move to San Francisco, Tyler Linderbaum’s record Raiders deal, the Colts trading Michael Pittman Jr., Cowboys’ major additions post-Micah Parsons, and much more. They also field live questions, reflect on what these moves could mean for players’ legacies, and fire back at some social media chatter.
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This packed episode underscores just how wild and fast-moving NFL free agency has become, while serving up Ocho and Unc’s trademark mix of analysis, player perspective, and locker-room authenticity. Their honest takes on star moves, cap gymnastics, and what these deals mean for locker rooms and legacies make this essential listening for any football fan who wants to cut past the headlines and into real player talk.
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