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Bobby Bones
Hey, it's Bobby from the Bobby Bones show. I had an incredible time at this year's iHeartRadio music festival and even got the chance to hang out with Diplo and Bailey Zimmerman while I was there. How did Ashes come together? Diplo?
Diplo
I pulled up real quick. He was about to leave on tour. You're about to jump in your tour bus. And we had like three hours.
Bailey Zimmerman
It was really cool. He really just like randomly showed up to my house. I'm like, oh, hey, Diplo, what are you doing? He's like, I have a song that I want to show you. And I was like, okay.
Bobby Bones
You can listen to the full episode out now, wherever you get your podcast. And big shout out to my friends at Hyundai for making this possible. Had a blast cruising around festival weekend in the all new Palisade hybrid.
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Colin Coward
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Shannon Sharpe
Ocho. During the Cowboys jets game, Jerry Jones had no problem letting jets fans know how he really felt. Check out this video, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
Let me see what Jerry talk about.
Shannon Sharpe
Can you see?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I see it. I see it. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Stop playing with me. Yo, stop. Stop playing with me.
Shannon Sharpe
Middle finger make.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, I might be the owner.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I like middle finger. Might cause Jerry a little money. In 2009 Tennessee Titans farmer owner Rest in Peace Bud Adams will find 250000 for a similar incident.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
For a series of gestures may in the direction of Buffalo Bills fan the league fine Carolina Panthers owner David Tepper $300,000 for throwing a drink in the direction of the Jacksonville Jags fan. Oo do you think a six figure fine is enough, enough of the deterrent or a punishment for a guy that has a franchise valued at 12 billion who has a net worth of probably 15 billion?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I mean Jerry ain't tripping. Jerry not tripping. Tepper wasn't tripping. And young Bull that did it before that one. Triple Adams obviously fans probably heckling. You know how, you know how people feel about the Cowboys. You know how people feel about Jerry Jones? They don't like him. A lot of people don't like him. And he just want to let those people know, listen, I don't like y' all either. And here, take this with you.
Shannon Sharpe
And he was waving. He waved at Cowboy fans and then hit the mother with that. That's for you. That's for you.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I mean, listen. Yeah, they probably, they gonna probably have.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, they're gonna find him. Yeah, they're gonna find him at least a quarter.
Chad Ochocinco
They're gonna let him know. Listen, Jerry, you know, you can't do that. You can't do that. You know, here's 500 000. Go ahead and do what you want with that. You know what you will.
Shannon Sharpe
And just, just, well, here's a million because I'm gonna get somebody else too. I'm just letting you know I'm gonna get somebody else. I'm gonna be in somebody else stadium and we go where and they're gonna be heckler bad. I'm gonna show. But yeah, Jerry, look, Jerry knows he'll probably. I'm surprised he didn't mention it. He didn't mention on his radio show today. But he was like, yeah, I know I can't do that. Jerry's gonna Say all the right things, but he's like, yeah, absolutely.
Chad Ochocinco
And that's the funny thing. When it comes to players, when it comes to owners, when it comes to quarterbacks, they always say the right thing. They always say the politically correct thing. And that's what I told you when we talked about, I think, last year, and you said, cam Ward can't say stuff like that because face of the franchise, you can't do that when you're representing an organization, whatever it may be. But I would love. I would love if we got back to a place where you just say exactly how you feel and how it really is right now at that moment, but it's just something you can't. But I just love. I would love that raw authenticity from players and owners when it comes to. To having. Being real for that.
Shannon Sharpe
Got to be careful. I don't know if you notice we getting back to a place that. Where it was previously. I don't know if you noticed it paying attention. I. I don't want it to go back like that.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, Unc.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't miss nothing. You hear me?
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't miss nothing. I can see it little. Little by little. Matter of fact, let me tell you how much I pay attention. I pay attention to all the distractions that they continue to have going on to make sure we ain't paying attention to the things that are changing behind closed doors.
Shannon Sharpe
You see it.
Chad Ochocinco
I see it all.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
I may play a fool on camera, but I ain't one off.
Shannon Sharpe
Nope. I. I think the biggest thing is, is Roger Goodell commenced. Probably called Jerry, like, Jerry. Come on, Jerry. And Jerry goes out. He was having a little fun. He was having a little fun because Jerry, he likes to have fun. He. He really is. I mean, look, having the little bit that I've been around him. He really is a great guy. He'll go into. If he. If you're out. If you ever see Jerry out and you somewhere, he gonna send you a drink. Thank you, Jerry. I don't drink. Well, here. Here's a soda. I'm trying to think. Oh, in Houston, when the. The Comeback, the Patriots, and I saw he dropped. I don't think maybe the next year. When did Jerry go into the hall of Fame? But anyway, it might have been then because he was on the bus. He had his bus. He got a big old tour bus, and he got, like, the man crew, and he got the cowboy. Big cowboy logo.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, Right.
Shannon Sharpe
So that. So the next year, and. And he. Yeah, that was 20 yeah. So. Yeah, 27. Yeah. So he got elected. So I was. Because I signed with. I was with Fox, and so it was a 2016 season. 2017. So that's when. Yeah, you're absolutely right. And so bad. I went on Jerry bus, man. Man. His wife. We love you, but you gotta lay off the Cowboys. The great. The grandkid was on there. Stephen. All of us on. It was. It was. But if you. If you ever around him, he really. I mean, he's really charming. He's really personable, so it's easy. He easy to like. I'm just telling you, he's really easy to like, because he is so charming. He is so personable. And. And his family the same way.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
But it. It was great. But Jerry know. He can't do this. He the owner. They. They don't. They don't want the players to do that. You damn sure don't want. I mean, probably the de facto owner of all owners of all the sports. He's probably the most recognizable, the most visible. Yeah, he's the. He's the biggest owner probably since Mr. Steinbrenner.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah. Hey, matter of fact, hey, shout out to my boy. Can't bite him. I know you're probably gonna see this. I appreciate the jersey. It finally came. It finally came in the mail. I remember I forgot what. Sure was when I was excited when he scored it. He had an interception. He done. Crazy celebration. I said, obviously, right now, you're probably one of my favorite players. Boom. They reached out to me. They got me a jersey. He signed it, too. I'm not supposed to be wearing. I'm supposed to frame it. Yeah. My dog.
Shannon Sharpe
Is that a Cole's jersey?
Chad Ochocinco
I can't. Yeah. Buying them just.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, okay.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Yeah. Cam, I appreciate that. You see how big I done got?
Shannon Sharpe
God, leave.
Chad Ochocinco
No, hey, I'm swole. Hey, you know, I. Hey, I got an email too. Huh?
Shannon Sharpe
From who?
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, when I was in Vegas for the fight. When I was Vegas for the fight, I went down and tried to audition for the Chippendales. They finally emailed me back.
Shannon Sharpe
They say they're not hiring.
Chad Ochocinco
No, they say. They say they hiring. They just had a spot open up. They had to fire some dude. Yeah. So I'm thinking about relocating out there. When the season over.
Shannon Sharpe
No, I'm having a resident.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm gonna have a residency. A Chippendale residence right here.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm moving to Miami.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, that's. That's fine. That's fine. Matter of fact.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, what.
Chad Ochocinco
You know what's? Funny is you ain't even know. You just got back in town, huh? Yeah, you did do me a favor, right? Look around. Look around real quick and see what you see missing out of your room.
Shannon Sharpe
All I know is that. You know what I told Ash? What you call them, man said ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on, hold on. You don't. You don't see nothing missing out of your room. I told you. I told you I'm gonna come to Vegas when you wasn't in town. And when you. Hey, listen, when you walk in your house, it's a portrait to the right and a dog bowl to the left.
Shannon Sharpe
Where you at? You get my trophies.
Chad Ochocinco
I told you. I told you I'm gonna come out there, get my stuff.
Shannon Sharpe
Hear me?
Chad Ochocinco
Huh? I told you. Hey, hey, you need me. You got. You know what? Also, you need to work on your security system. All I did. All I did. I cut you. You got to get adt, because that system you got, that definitely ain't it. Hey, check your cameras. Check your cameras. Two days ago at 702. I'm gonna get 702pm I got.
Shannon Sharpe
I got it. I got.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I appreciate. I appreciate that.
Shannon Sharpe
I got. I got a new one. I'm. I'm about to get Glock and Sig Sour my new security.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey, I appreciate. I appreciate the trophies, though. Appreciate. That's love. Thank you. Thank you. The fact that I had to come break in just to get my stuff.
Shannon Sharpe
Shoot, you ain't getting no more, though.
Chad Ochocinco
Thank you, though.
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't getting no more.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, I know how to get in now. I'm gonna just wait till you out of town.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, that's all right. Y' all see. Hey, he broke. Hey, I'm glad, because I got.
Chad Ochocinco
We.
Shannon Sharpe
We taping this. So I'm just gonna turn this over to the Las Vegas Police Department, but.
Chad Ochocinco
They'Re not gonna be able to. They're not gonna be able to identify me because I was coming up.
Shannon Sharpe
But you tell it. You tell it right now yourself. But we taping this.
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, I could just tell them I was lying. There's really no.
Shannon Sharpe
He ain't lying. You telling the truth because I'm missing two trophies.
Chad Ochocinco
I appreciate that. It was good doing business.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm missing two trophies, so. You know what? Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Chat y' all saw that, right? Chat y' all saw the man broke in the house. Now. Now, he done got his trophy. Now send me my money.
Chad Ochocinco
I had to come and get my trophies. I had to come and get them. That's a five hour flight from Miami. Five hour flight on Spirit. I had to find where you lived at. Then I had to go through the goddamn.
Shannon Sharpe
The.
Chad Ochocinco
The house plans to ex. To know exactly where to enter and where to come out. Man, you know, I had to cut the wires. I had to get the trophies. I had to rewire everything back together and then leave. That was a headache for me.
Shannon Sharpe
Can I get my 5,900 now?
Chad Ochocinco
I got you now. You know what you. Now. You can get it. You can get it now.
Shannon Sharpe
Thank you. I appreciate that. Man came in my house. Ash and Jordan was in on it because they know the code to the gate to get in. First of all, you gotta get through the gate.
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on for one. Gates. I jumped them. I jumped them because if. If the code, they'll be able to tell that somebody was there at that certain time. I don't need anything logged in. I don't need nothing logged in. I jumped that. That ain't nothing.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, that's okay. I got something for it, Chad. But y' all see that? He told you. Hey, you. He told y' all what he did. So. So when something bad happen, I ain't responsible. When they say, hey, don't man, un have to do that. That ain't nothing but a little trophy they have of him. He is. Anyway, I don't want to hear that.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm good. God on my side. God got me.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that's all right. I'm gonna get you. I'm gonna get my money back now I want my money.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, you got you good. I got you.
Shannon Sharpe
Nope. Nope. He done broken my house chat and took two of my trophies.
Colin Coward
This is Colin Coward from the Colin coward podcast on Fox 1. Now you can stream your favorite live sport so you can be there live for the biggest moments. That means NFL Sundays and college football games, NASCAR Major league baseball postseason and more. With Fox one, you get it all live. Edge of your seat plays, high octane moments and that feeling like you're right there in the action. Fox one, we live for live streaming now.
Bobby Bones
Hey, it's Bobby from the Bobby Bone Show. I had an incredible time at this year's iHeartRadio music festival and even got the chance to hang out with Diplo and Bailey Zimmerman while I was there. Check this out. So how did Ashes come together?
Shannon Sharpe
Diploma.
Diplo
Well, I kind of briefly met Bailey, I think at Morgan's show. One of them. And I think he's just the guy in Nashville. He's cool as hell, and I had a new kind of sound I wanted to do and I think he's the one guy that could carry it. And I came to his house, I had a show, I pulled up real quick, he was about to leave on tour. You're about to jump in your tour bus. And we had like three hours play the record for him. We kind of like got a scratch and then he handled it on his own on the road.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah, it was really cool. He really just like randomly showed up to my house and like, oh hey Diplo, what are you doing? He's like, I have a song that I want to show you. And I was like, okay. And then now we're here playing it live.
Bobby Bones
You can listen to the full episode out now wherever you get your podcasts and big shout out to my friends at Hyundai for making this possible. Had a blast cruising around festival weekend in the all new Palisade Hybrid.
Shannon Sharpe
Ugh.
Colin Coward
Come on.
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Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
Mike McDaniel says Dolphins owner Steve Ross is really frustrated McDaniel he's really frustrated just like I was. We talked about the challenge ahead to get ready for the Chargers and that was really the extent of it. Miami's 1 in 4 start is its worst since 2019. The team's previous two coaches, Brian Flores and Adam Gates, were fired at the end of their third season. Ross dismissed Joe Philbin after a 1 and 3 start in his fourth season. Tony Sperano after a 4 and 9 start in his fourth year in 2011. Ocho is Mike McDaniel officially on the hot seat? Yeah, he's on that last year.
Chad Ochocinco
Absolutely. He's on the hot seat. Listen, and personally, I love Mike McDaniel. I love Mike McDaniel and, and, and as we always say, players get coach.
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely.
Chad Ochocinco
They're not playing well. They're not playing well. The better the players you have on the field, the easier it is for you to win and have success Right now, obviously with the, with, with Tyreek going offensively, even when Tyreek was there, they weren't playing correct things. Yeah, that thing for the Dolphins just aren't going well as they were two years ago when they were on fire offensively, offensively. And it just is not good. I think they are in somewhat of a rebuild. I'm not even gonna say somewhat. They're gonna have to rebuild. They're gonna have to tear down and start all over. They're gonna have to tear down and start all over. And I'm hoping, I'm hoping that Mike McDaniel can make it through the season. But it's all going to be based on the players.
Shannon Sharpe
He'll make it. It's all going to be based on.
Chad Ochocinco
The players and whether they show up and, and show out on Sundays for their coach. If they don't, he might not make it to week eight.
Shannon Sharpe
He ain't gonna make it.
Chad Ochocinco
He might not make it to week eight.
Shannon Sharpe
He ain't gonna make it. Oo. I mean, he might. Like I'm saying, this is his last year in Miami. This it? Yeah. No, Reek, even when they were. I mean, even when Reek was there last year, they weren't playing very well. Yeah. They had a 17 nothing lead against Carolina, and Carolina walk them down, it's over.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And I don't know what the reports are about, guys being late and this and that and stuff being overlooked. I don't know what's true, but. Right. There's probably some truth. There's even truth. There's a little truth even in a lie. But I understand. And for him to publicly speak, because this is the first time that I heard. I mean, that he and the owner spoke. They speak after. After every game. I didn't know that.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, you did. I. I think most coaches talk to the owners after games, especially when they aren't going. Well, there's nothing to talk about when you win.
Shannon Sharpe
Let me ask you a question.
Chad Ochocinco
But if we keep. If we keep losing. Okay, Now I gotta answer to the head man. I gotta answer the head boss, because not only my investment that I'm putting in you, but why are we not. Based on what I'm investing, why am I not getting goddamn return on him? I need a return on that money.
Shannon Sharpe
But the fact that he mentioned that they. Okay, let's just say for the sake of argument, that's commonplace. Coaches don't normally mention about the conversation that transpired between the two.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, okay.
Shannon Sharpe
That's what I. Okay, maybe. Maybe I phrased it wrong. I'm not surprised that they meet. I'm surprised that he divulged some of the things that they talked about in said meeting.
Chad Ochocinco
Talk about. Right, right. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
But. Yeah, I just, you know, and. And the history is. Ross, you know.
Chad Ochocinco
He got short patient.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if he got short patient. Look, Joe Philbin lasted four seasons. Tony. Tony Sparano lasted four seasons. Brian Flores and Adam Gaze, that lasted three season. So what year is this for Mike McDaniel? Three. Coming up on four. This is fourth season. Two, three, four, five. It's fourth season. Yeah, he good.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
And he probably got. They probably gave him a contract extension after he won. Took the team to the playoffs, so he probably got a contract extension.
Chad Ochocinco
He good.
Shannon Sharpe
He's straight.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Wait, what you mean straight straight? Is he not going?
Shannon Sharpe
No, he's straight about money. His money. Oh, no, no. He gone. He gonna. He gonna leave. I don't Advocate anybody being getting fired. But back to back seasons like this with the money that he spending to it, the money that he TR and the draft picks that he traded and those hot, you know, they paid a king's ransom to get Jalen Ramson. Now they did trade him and brought back Minka Fitzpatrick. But you know, they gave spent a lot of money for Jalen, for Bradley Chubb. They played a lot of money in Phillips. It just. They spent a lot of money and the return is just not there on the investment.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, man. Yeah, that, that sucks. That sucks. I'm. I'm curious where they're gonna go, especially coaching wise. I think Tua, they just paid tour last year, so probably has about maybe.
Shannon Sharpe
Another three, maybe three dangle let tour keep playing like this. He ain't gonna be there three years. He gonna have to pick it up. He's gonna have to play better. You have to play better. Right? And dang, that's just, that's just the way it is.
Chad Ochocinco
Right, right. That's. That's a scary thing too. That's a scary thing. Especially as a player. You think you're safe, you think you've gotten paid. But obviously if you're not playing as well as you should be, especially when you're making a certain amount of money, especially at the most important position on the field, you know, as a quarterback, your team go as go your team go. If you're playing well, then everything flows really smooth because they do everything through you. If the quarterback ain't playing well, you goddamn defense better be all world. They better be top one, top two. If they not, boy, it's going to be real hard to win games.
Shannon Sharpe
Very extremely difficult. And they're not, and they're not really. They're not anything special on either side of the ball. So when you're not special on either side of the ball, this is what you're going to get. You're going to get one in four and it's going to be a struggle because we see New England is pretty good this year. We see Buffalo. Buffalo is Buffalo. So there are no. What's Miami's next five games? It's not a.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, matter of fact, you said New England is good.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Why, why is New England good? Because of who they got.
Shannon Sharpe
The Chargers next. Browns, Falcons, Ravens, Bills. They might. I mean they could, they can, they can. You know, if Lamar's not back, they can beat the Ravens.
Chad Ochocinco
Ain't looking charges.
Shannon Sharpe
No Chargers gonna get charges.
Chad Ochocinco
Just Chargers just coming off, coming off a loss too. They definitely Looking for somebody to take their.
Shannon Sharpe
Take their frustrations out on. Yeah, they're that a. Right now people looking at the Dolphins like, okay, play the Dolphins and call me tomorrow. Like the doctor say, take two after.
Chad Ochocinco
And, hey, the Dolphins. Basically the homecoming game. Who we want to schedule for homecoming?
Shannon Sharpe
Dolphins.
Chad Ochocinco
Dolphins. It's all good. Yeah, we're gonna be all right. Everybody laugh now, but when we bounce.
Shannon Sharpe
Back, boy, y' all ain't bouncing back.
Chad Ochocinco
We'll be back. All right. Yeah, when.
Shannon Sharpe
When that gonna happen?
Chad Ochocinco
Give us through. We got to rebuild now. We got the.
Shannon Sharpe
Is it going to happen in the 20s or the 30s?
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This is Colin Coward from the Colin coward podcast on Fox 1. Now you can stream your favorite live sport so you can be there live for the biggest moments. That means NFL Sundays and college football games, nascar, Major league baseball, postseason, and more. With Fox one, you get it all live, edgier seat plays, high octane moments, and that feeling like you're right there in the action. Fox one, we live for live streaming now.
Bobby Bones
Hey, it's Bobby from the Bobby Bone Show. I had an incredible time at this year's iHeartRadio music festival and even got the chance to hang out with Diplo and Bailey Zimmerman while I was there. Check this out. So how did Ashes come together, Diplo?
Diplo
Well, I kind of briefly met Bailey, I think, at Morgan's show, one of them. And I think he's just the guy in Nashville. He's cool as hell. And I had a new kind of sound I wanted to do, and I think he's the one guy that could carry it. And I came to his house. I had a show. I pulled up real quick. He was about to leave on tour. You're about to jump in your tour bus. And we had like three hours play the record for him. We kind of, like got a scratch, and then he handled it on his own on the road.
Bailey Zimmerman
Yeah, it was really cool. He really just, like, randomly showed up to my house, and I'm like, oh, hey, Diplo, what are you doing? He's like, I have a song that I want to show you. And I was like, okay. And then now we're here playing it live.
Bobby Bones
You can listen to the full episode out now, wherever you get your podcast. And big shout out to my friends at Hyundai for making this possible. Had a blast cruising around festival weekend in the all new Palisade hybrid.
Colin Coward
Come on.
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Shannon Sharpe
This thing is ancient.
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Shannon Sharpe
All right guys, Ocho, we got a very, very special guest joining us.
Chad Ochocinco
Massage.
Shannon Sharpe
We got the gold medal winning 100 meter hurdle specialist woman. She has the American record of 1217. She's chasing that Toby Amundsen record, the Nigerian of 1212. And I think she's gonna get it. Messiah. Thank you for joining us.
Messiah Russell
Thank you for having me. How are you guys?
Shannon Sharpe
We're doing amazing.
Chad Ochocinco
What up twins?
Messiah Russell
Nothing much.
Shannon Sharpe
The. The, the world championships did not go as planned. I mean you have been running up until that running really well. You go 12, 17, you're in the 20s, low 20s the entire season and for whatever reason you weren't able to put it together in the finals of the World Championships. If you don't mind, explain. What do you think? What do you think went wrong?
Messiah Russell
I think a lot went wrong. Of course, as everyone knows, I was like you said, running all these crazy times throughout the year. But I'm not the type to make up any excuse as into why I didn't get the job Done. I think the main thing was just not the best planning going into the meet. And me and my coach kind of talked about that, and I can assure you that those things won't happen again. And a lot of different things went into, like, a lot of things had a reason as into why I didn't do what I needed to do. But like I said, I'm not in the business of making up excuses. I'm young. That was my second global final. The first one I won. The second one didn't go as planned, but I can assure you that it won't happen again.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that's what, that's what we like to hear. Messiah. When you, when. Look, I got kids older than you, but I know the, I know women hurdlers, so I go back. I know great Gail Divas and Joanna Hayes and Don Harper and Lolo Jones. Yes.
Chad Ochocinco
I, I.
Shannon Sharpe
And when. When. And Brianna Rollins when we swept in Kenny Harrison when she set the world record. Your donkey donkey. I was around when your danka donkey set the world record in 88 of 1221. She also won the Olympics in soul that year. So I, I know I, I know the women I follow. I love track and field. I don't know if you can tell, but I love track and field. It is my favorite. I, I was a professional football player. But the sport that I love to watch, that I really enjoy, it is the only sport that I watch with the sound. On all the other sports I watch, there is no sound. I love to hear Otto Bolton. I love to hear Sonia Richards. Ross. Carol Lewis used to be on the call as the, as the lady that called the, that called the track and field. But I say that to say this. How soon can we expect you to challenge that world record?
Messiah Russell
Hey, man, I feel like whenever it's meant to happen, it's going to happen. I got another meet this weekend, but yes, shout out to aflos. They're giving us another opportunity, another platform, all women's meet to do our thing. But, you know, I don't know when it's gonna happen. And I feel like for me personally, I'm not like on a timeline to like, when am I gonna break the work? When am I gonna break the world record? You know, I know when I run my fastest times, I'm not thinking about what I'm gonna do. It just kind of happens. And I feel like when you're like reaching and searching and trying to like, break a record or run a fast time, it never happens. So for me, whenever it's gonna Happen, it's gonna happen. Just like when I ran at 12:17 and at 12:19, it didn't feel like it, it just happened. So, you know, at the end of the day, whenever it's meant to be, it's gonna be.
Shannon Sharpe
You got your cash out ready? They say they swiped that card. They had K. They put that thing in right up immediately.
Messiah Russell
No, I'm ready. I got it ready. I already got the app downloaded. I didn't sit the wire transfer, the banking number, router number. I got everything.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, go ahead, Ojo.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, what, what part? What part? When do you get a break? When do you get to relax? When do you have downtime to do some of the things you love to do outside of training?
Messiah Russell
So I think I run at 7:20. The break starts at 7:21. I'm gonna be chilling after that. I'm chilling for like two months. I don't want to hear, I don't want to smell, I don't want to think of a track. So I'm actually going to Miami as my vacation. So I'll be in your city.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay. Okay. Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
I wanna know what's in the water at Bullis. I'm trying to figure out how the hell. Quincy Wilson, yourself, all these people come out of this one school. What is going. What, what is it? What's the track program? I'm trying to figure out what y' all got going on.
Messiah Russell
It's low key, like a college program, but it's just in a high school setting. You know, I just think it's the coaches. I think the coaches just have like really maximized, like wanting to be a good program. And Yeah, I just think that they've done the research. They want to be the best. You know, somebody got to be the best. Somebody has to do it. Somebody has to put the work in. And I think those coaches over there just, they understood what they wanted to do. And you know, every year, ever since I was a junior and senior, they've been killing it ever since. So for a program to just like continue to produce like world, like, I mean, honestly, world class talent like me. I mean people, most of the people at Wendy won. Quincy Wilson got a gold medal. Last year, I got a gold medal. So, you know, I feel like the proof is in the pudding. And if you want right fast, you already know where to go.
Shannon Sharpe
What made you go to? I'm. I'm anxious. I'm trying to figure this out. Sid. Sid McLaughlin. LeBron. She goes to Kentucky. You go to Kentucky now. At the time, Kentucky Was not that program. I forget the other sprinter, the 100 meter specialist, she run the 100 to 200. She ran the 400. Abby Steiner, she went to Kentucky. But when I look at programs, lsu, Texas, Arkansas, usc. I'm like, wendy, Kentucky. I know Edric. He's now the head coach at a. Maybe he was your coach, but I think now he's at the University of Texas. Was he your coach at Kentucky?
Messiah Russell
No. So I was a year late.
Chad Ochocinco
Right.
Messiah Russell
When he left, I came in. So then Rolando Green became the head coach there, and he's been the head coach. He's my coach and he's been. Who's been coaching me ever since. Like, I was like, first step foot on the campus, and then now still my professional coach. But I don't know. I don't know what's in the Kentucky border. I know it's like Hurdle U. And I think that we're, like, doing our big one in terms of that because it's me, Jasmine Camacho, Quinn, Kenny Harrison.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Messiah Russell
Like, it's just like every single year, like, it's a hurdle. They're doing their thing, so.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Messiah Russell
Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I just think it's. I don't know. It's just one of them programs that, like, I think have had a lot of. Just a lot of good luck and success and some hardworking people in the hurdles and then even just like outside of the hurdles, but definitely the most stacked in the hurdle.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Yes.
Chad Ochocinco
You know, it was funny, too, is. I'm thinking about in high school, you know, I was. I was a track runner. I was very fast, you know, in the hundred. I was. I was nine. Nine, right. No, 10, 10 flat. And I ran into two.
Shannon Sharpe
100 yard dash.
Messiah Russell
Okay, 100 yard.
Chad Ochocinco
Not me.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
No, no 100. No hundred meter. Hey, Uncle. I would not. I would. 9, 8, 9, 9 in high school now. I just. Yeah. So I'm thinking about my. You know, my daughter's at Kentucky, obviously. You know, my daughter's on the track team at Kentucky, too. So I'm thinking I still got some eligibility, so I'm thinking about enrolling and. And running to. Seeing if. Seeing if I could. I could probably, you know, do a little something.
Messiah Russell
You gonna come to Kentucky? You gonna come be teammates with Baby? Sh.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
That's never been done with his grades. He couldn't get in prison. You ain't got that to worry about, baby. He's straight. He.
Chad Ochocinco
He good.
Shannon Sharpe
He good. So you just Besides, we had, we had Melissa Jefferson on and we was talking to her and this was before she actually ran. And I said, you know what I said watching you run, I said, there have been very few women only in, in recently. Back up 106 with another 10 6. So you could tell she was in tip top form. I say you have the people in the world championship. When you look at who's around and you look at, you had to lose Smith and you had sha' Carrie and you had Julian Alfred and you had Dina Asher Smith, you had all these women in there. So you had the people that can push you. You had the conditions even on a rainy track. And she ran what she ran. I said, if you get a tape, a favorable win, I said, I think you can go sub 10 5, I mean sub 10 6. She said in her mind she thought she could run low 10 5. I say that to ask you, you get the ideal conditions, you get a Starks, you get a Tia Jones, you get Ahmanson and you get kombucha in that race and you get perfect condition. You say you don't think about it, but you know you're gonna probably need to run low in order to be first to the tape.
Messiah Russell
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that's always the mindset lining up against the women's hurdles. I mean, we're definitely the most compet across the board. And that's the thing. If you're not showing up as your best, like, it's gonna be tough to bring a win. Like it ain't ever gonna be an easy win in the women's hurdles. But I know for me personally, the way that, like I view myself and the way that I am and the way that my work ethic is, it's just like I know when I'm at my best and when I'm mentally locked in and physically locked in, it's not a lot of people that can humbly compete with me. And I feel like I've showed that I don't have the world record, but I'm the, no, I'm the only woman to ever run 121 twice in, in the same year. So even though, you know, Tokyo didn't go as planned, everything always happens for a reason. So like I said, that's gonna be the first and last time that y' all ever see that happen. And yeah, I mean, I know like I'm a game time competitor, I'm a big time competitor. So at the end of the day, like I'm gonna show up when it counts.
Shannon Sharpe
You're not the word. You don't have the world record yet.
Messiah Russell
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Matter of fact, you know, I. I have a question too. As a. As a former hurdler with much experience, obviously there are different phases and strengths and weaknesses when it comes to. When we do run. When it comes to you, when it's time to run the hurdles, what do you think the strongest part of your race is? Is it the beginning, is it the middle, or the.
Messiah Russell
All right, this gonna sound kind of cocky, but go ahead, talk.
Chad Ochocinco
Talk your shit.
Shannon Sharpe
The whole race.
Messiah Russell
I know you don't care, but, like, you can't. You like running. Being a 12 bar hurdler, that's not, like a bad part of your race. But I think my. What I'm most known for is definitely the back end, and that's what, like, separates me from most. But, you know, I think what changed this year is that I got, like, the start mixed with the finish. So like you said, perfect conditions, perfect setting. Even when I ran the 121 at Grand Slam, like, it was a great track, perfect win, perfect temperature. Yeah. I mean, it was just. It was just a great day. And then when I ran my 12 one in Poland, it was like, fast track, good energy, good vibes. Like, I felt good. So, you know, like I said, at the end of the day, when it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen. I'm, like, getting closer and closer, so it's. I'm definitely feeling for it. And it's gonna happen when it's supposed to.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, are you. Are you superstitious, or do you do the same routine before every race? Do you have the same meal?
Messiah Russell
I, like, cut back. Because, I mean, I definitely. Well, when I was, like, in high school and honestly in college, I don't know what I was thinking about before I competed. I'm like. I just was like. I feel like I was like a little baby just out there competing. But then when I went pro, like before the Olympics, like, my mind, my whole mindset just completely changed. So I think that now I definitely have a routine, but I try not to, like, be so picture perfect, because it's like, at the end of the day, it ain't never gonna be the same. It's never gonna be. Like, you can't replicate it. So you can do certain things that are the same, but you just got to show up and run. Like, at the end of the day, I tell myself I'm fast. So that's all it is. Like, if I'm fast, I'm fast. It don't matter. What the weather is, what the time is, how it is. It just. It is what it is. So just believe in that and just be true today. And you gonna run fast. So I try not to, like, get too caught up.
Shannon Sharpe
We had a court one.
Chad Ochocinco
One more thing. I have a question. When it comes to diet, are you one that is free when it comes to what you consume, or do you. Are you strictly on. Okay, I always got to eat healthy. Everything always has to be good for my body. Or do you have a healthy balance of. Okay, I'm gonna eat McDonald's, like, ocho. But also, on the other hand, I'm gonna make sure I eat.
Messiah Russell
Yeah. So I feel like in the off season, I go kind of. Kind of crazy. But, like, in season, I just try to stay away from the fried foods just because, like, I've learned a little more about, like, nutrition and how it processes in your body. So now, you know, when I was in high school, you know, I'll be doing a Chick Fil a for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, like, you know, but I just try to eat just clean. Like, not even. Just, like, as an athlete, just, like, as a human.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Messiah Russell
And we run and, like, the way my coach trains, we get around the track. So if you're not feeling the right way, you're gonna feel terrible. So for me, like, I just stay away from, like, the fried foods. But I love a good sweet. I can't lie. Like, I'm always gonna get a little sweet every now and then.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Messiah Russell
See, you still eat McDonald's.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, that's why. Why you think I look like this?
Messiah Russell
Oh, my God. I can't believe you still eat McDonald's. You and child, y' all gotta stop.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he not. He not. He not gonna stop, though.
Chad Ochocinco
I am.
Messiah Russell
You eating McDonald's?
Chad Ochocinco
No. That's why he's so small.
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, I eat. I have. I. I eat. I. I try to eat. I eat healthy. I probably. I eat. Try to eat three to four times a day. So that's 28 meals. So 20. At least 25 of them will be tremendous. Rice, broccoli, carrots, chicken, ground turkey, lean cuts of pro, lean cuts of beef, stuff like that. And then, you know, I might have. You know, I might have a sausage biscuit or something like that, but the majority of the time. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Messiah Russell
Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
No.
Chad Ochocinco
Hell, no vegetables. Well, you ain't never had a Big Mac with lettuce vegetables. They come with tomatoes, too, man.
Shannon Sharpe
They don't put no tomatoes on no Big Mac.
Chad Ochocinco
I get. I get I get tomatoes on my Big Mac. What you talking about?
Shannon Sharpe
You see? You see what I'm saying? He's not gonna go to class. He had. He had one class all day. He was in the same classroom the whole day. Messiah, he's not going back to school. That's why I don't. I. I gotta. I gotta keep an eye on him. When we go places, I gotta. I gotta leash. He locked on my arms because he'll wander off.
Chad Ochocinco
See, listen, I ain't want to tell you about. I was trying to save it. I didn't want to let nobody know, but obviously University of Kentucky offered me a one year scholarship. They offered me a one year scholarship. I sent my film in. I sent the footage in. They saw me run the hunted.
Messiah Russell
Who recruited you? Was it Coach Green?
Shannon Sharpe
No.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, Coach Green. He said, he said, listen, I. I'm thinking about give you a scholarship. Can you come in and run the one and the two?
Messiah Russell
Bro, why are you like this?
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know. They saw, they saw it running. They saw him leaving the mall. They said, yeah, he might can run 100.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, y'. All. Hey, y' all don't believe in me.
Shannon Sharpe
Y'.
Chad Ochocinco
All. Y' all two acting like my high school teachers, man. They told me about my. I'm telling. I'm prove you wrong.
Shannon Sharpe
Messiah, thank you for joining us. Congratulations on winning gold in the past Olympics. Look, things didn't work out. Sometimes you have a. You fall. Everything was feeling great and I know you wanted to back up, you know, consolidate the globals with a. With a goal in, in Tokyo. But it didn't happen. Hey, you get a chance Saturday. Enjoy your time off and come back next year. What is the Ultimate Championships the next year, right?
Messiah Russell
Ultimate Championships are in September next year.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, so let me before we get you out of here. So now you're going to take a month or two off. Chill, relax, you know, eat, you know, eat some, you know, I don't know if you. Do you like breakfast? You like pancakes? You like.
Messiah Russell
Yes, Breakfast is my favorite meal.
Shannon Sharpe
Breakfast is my favorite meal also. So, so, so how soon before you get back and start, you know, doing a little light jogging, do a little passive stretching, get back in the weight room? How? What? November, December.
Messiah Russell
First of the year for the November sound a little too close, but.
Shannon Sharpe
A.
Messiah Russell
Little too close too. After you. Almost.
Shannon Sharpe
So the first of the year, huh?
Messiah Russell
I'm pushing more towards the first of the year. I probably start getting up, getting moving a little bit like in December just to like get my feedback under myself. But I wasn't showing up for actual training with my coach. Probably into the first of the year.
Colin Coward
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So what do you. What, where do you train? If you don't mind me asking?
Messiah Russell
I train it still at the University of Kentucky.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. So. Okay. So you live in Kentucky. Okay.
Messiah Russell
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, congratulations. Continue success. Stay healthy.
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I just thought about something. 60 meter hurdles. If we race, you think you'll beat me?
Messiah Russell
Wait, if we both do the hurdles? Have you run a flat 60 and I'm going over hurdles?
Chad Ochocinco
No, I'm going over her. I'm a hurdle runner.
Shannon Sharpe
She'll beat you in the 60, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on, hold on. Messiah. I done beat Grant Holloway in practice.
Messiah Russell
You got your answer then. You beating me? You smoking me?
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, I just want.
Shannon Sharpe
I got Messiah against you in a straight 60 period.
Chad Ochocinco
What? Like with no.
Shannon Sharpe
No hurdles. I got Messiah against you up to Kentucky.
Messiah Russell
You already know where I stay.
Shannon Sharpe
I got my side against you straight up 60 meters.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, bet, bet, bet.
Messiah Russell
I already know where I want to be at.
Chad Ochocinco
Bet. Okay. Bet. Bet. I'm there. Matter of fact, I beat you and.
Shannon Sharpe
My daughter, you know, as a matter of fact. And guess what? When it happened beside March, around March or April, when you back in shape, we gonna come down there and we gonna. We gonna put it. We gonna put it on. We gonna put the money on the ground.
Messiah Russell
Put the money on the floor.
Shannon Sharpe
That's what they put it on the floor. Hey, and when you. When you run by, I want you to pick it up as you crossing the line first. Just go ahead and grab it. You go ahead and grab it. Because money out of sight. Cause a fight. Messiah, thank you for joining us. Congratulations on all your success. Continued success. Hey, come back and join us sometime soon.
Messiah Russell
Thank you guys so much. I appreciate y'.
Shannon Sharpe
All. All right, thank you. Messiah Russell, American Olympic champion 100 meter hurdles. And she's the American record holder with a 1217. She's the only woman to have two sub 1220 hurdle races. Congratulations. We'll see you down the road.
Chad Ochocinco
Bye.
Shannon Sharpe
Bye. Ocho Bingo's coach Zach Taylor isn't relinquishing one of his team's most important duties. Taylor confirmed today he will retain his role as team's offensive play caller. And after the Bengals suffered their third straight loss, 3724 home defeat to the Lions, Cincinnati mustered just three points through the first three quarters. For the third consecutive week. Taylor said he will continue to his dual capacity he's held since taken over the team's head coach in 2019.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. He don't need to relinquish nothing. I know what they need to do. Can I tell you what they need to do? Now, that's my team. And I love them. I love them to death. But boy, I don't care if you had Jesus and the 12 disciples at quarterback, they gonna be running for their life. Boy, Jake Browning, he get the ball before he could even turn the ball around and grab the laces to look down the field to see we want to throw the ball. Boy, he running for his life. You hear me?
Shannon Sharpe
Stop calling all that scat protection then.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, but. But let me. Let me tell you something. Zach Taylor, what do we need to do? If you understand there's a weakness at the office of line, what do we do? Okay, we got Jake Browning in shotgun. Let's go. Quick game. Condense the goddamn splits, run crosses, run whips, run the stick routes, allow him to get in the rhythm to get the ball out of. Get the ball out of his hand fast. You know, there are way. There are ways to manipulate the play calling because there's a certain weakness up front. You can do that, right? You can do that. Two seconds. This NFL, if them boys can't block for two seconds to allow them to get the ball out and shotgun, they don't need to be on the goddamn team. I saw a lab with my own eyes on the safety. On the safety he took.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I saw that. That loop round.
Chad Ochocinco
What are we doing? It was one second. One second. It's one on one. No disrespect to the guard. You can't do that at this level. How do you whiff? He didn't even make a good move. He stepped. He stepped to the right and he. And he went to the left and you whiffed completely.
Shannon Sharpe
You did.
Chad Ochocinco
That's the NFL. Come on, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, he about to lose both of those duties at the end of the season, unfortunately. Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Oh, another thing. I'm glad you said it. Chase. Chase, I love you to death. I don't care if they know what we running. I don't care if they know every play. Boy, you the best of the league. We pay you 40 million if the ball in the vicinity, you get jiggy with it like you did the other day. I don't care if they know the plays. Every time it come your way, you make magic. Black make magic. No excuses. None. You wear number one for a reason. For a reason. You the best in the game for a reason. Every time you come out the other boy. You got to get in six. Yeah, well, I don't care what the play is. Come to me. Double team, triple team, four people on me. Just throw it. Put it in the area. You know, I heard Chase say that they. You know, they know what we're doing. They know the play that's coming, man. Boy, you wear one for a reason. We pay you 40 million for a reason. I don't care if they. I don't care if they got the playbook.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, get jiggy. Ocho, you might catch some passes, but they know what you're doing. You're not gonna win a whole lot of games. You know that, right?
Chad Ochocinco
I know. Okay, I'm with you. Right? Hey, listen, I'm getting a little emotional. I'm getting a little emotional. Hey, man, you got me. You got me losing my voice.
Shannon Sharpe
No, you've been. See. Hey, Chad, this man been sick for three weeks.
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on. I'm not sick.
Shannon Sharpe
That man been sick for three weeks. Chatty. Y' all know it. Look. Oh, my goodness.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey, hey, hey. Guess who. Guess who was our leading tackle in the game?
Shannon Sharpe
Chase.
Chad Ochocinco
Yep, as a matter of fact, because Jamar Chase was the leading tackler, and he led us in the receiving yards, we need to pay him some more money because he playing both sides of the ball. He's doing the job he's not asked to do. What you doing, man?
Shannon Sharpe
You bet. Everybody heard you cough. I don't know what that is.
Chad Ochocinco
Not because I'd be smoking. That's all. Hey, maybe I need. Hey, you think I need to take.
Shannon Sharpe
A off day, man? Look here. I don't know what you got going on, Ocho, but you got to cut that out. I mean, three weeks, man.
Chad Ochocinco
It just happened.
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, no. That thing been going on for chat. Chad. How long Ocho been sick?
Chad Ochocinco
When I. When I was on my. When I was on a flight, on the Spirit flight from Vegas, the fight was.
Shannon Sharpe
Man, that fight been three weeks ago. Oh.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, you know, I smoke about three, four sticks a day. That don't make it no better.
Shannon Sharpe
You keep on coming like that, they ain't gonna let you in London.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, they ain't got no chance.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they do.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey, hey, I. I'm gonna. I need. What's the name? Information. You know, I go to New York. I'm in New York Tuesday and Wednesday, and I flat. Havoc. Shoot. I want to meet. I want to meet foxy. And. Look, Kim, I need an autograph.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, I ain't got it.
Chad Ochocinco
The hell I know. I Know, I'm just saying, I fly to London on Thursday, so. Matter of fact, you know, I get to say I get to sit with Goodell at the Broncos game, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Havoc and wake. 1 want to know if you want to come by rehearsal.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, man, what's up? I get. I get to New York. Tell them I get to New York tomorrow at 1 o'. Clock. I have. I have a rental where we go.
Shannon Sharpe
Wherever they watch it. He's sick.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. Matter of fact, y' all can put me on the track. Put me on the track. I could rap. Yeah, I'm wondering.
Shannon Sharpe
Put him on the eight track. Somebody ain't never coming out.
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, nah, nah. Hey, you know, hey, listen, my penmanship is cold, Unc. You hear me, man?
Shannon Sharpe
You just told a man.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, I can. Hey, I write with the best of them. Now, sometimes the delivery ain't what it should be, but I wouldn't. Jay Z before Jay Z. Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho. Can you write incursive?
Chad Ochocinco
Who, me?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Ocho. I asked Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, can I write? Can I write a cursive? I could talk incursive.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I think you could write crazy.
Chad Ochocinco
I could talk. I could talk incursive.
Shannon Sharpe
Man, that joke. Hey, that joker, 55 years old, is still printing. Who you?
Chad Ochocinco
Hey. Oh, hey, this what I do.
Shannon Sharpe
C, H o. Oh, no.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, I got some of the prettiest handwriting in the world. You hear me? I used to write love letters to all my girls.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, my goodness.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, during the day, I used to write love letters. Matter of fact, Unc, Matter of fact. Hey, Chat, if you got a girlfriend, when the last time you use your pen to tell your girl how you feel about her? Have you ever been able to express yourself on paper like me? That's what I do, Unc. I write. I write letters. I write. That's how. That's how I get them. You got to think, if I don't spend no money, how do I always end up with some of the most beautiful women in the world, Unc? You know why? Because my pen is phenomenal. I don't spend no money. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. I've never had anyone write me a love letter before. This is so thoughtful. Let me give you a chance.
Shannon Sharpe
They say. They say. They say they know why. They know why you end up with some of the most beautiful women in the world. The chat say they know why. We got nothing to do with me. Ain't none of my business. I don't even know why I brought it. I don't Even know why I brought it up. Ain't none of my business. So I ain't got nothing to say.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey, you know, you know, you know my representation, you know, it's beside me. You know, they used to call me in high school, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
You didn't go to high school. You went to the trailers behind the high school. Yeah, but what they call you? Ojo? What they call you?
Chad Ochocinco
They used to call me the plumber.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Lord of mercy.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Yeah, they used to call me the plumber in high school. Ate them some good days on. And the fact that it's carried over for so long. I'm in my 50s and they still call me the plumber. Now, I, I, I, I. It's hard for me to hold on to something for a long time.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
You hear me?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, it's hard. But, you know, I, I do what I do in the time with you.
Shannon Sharpe
You do, huh? Yeah. That's what they say. Lord have mercy. This man here. North Carolina Tar Heels have started Bill Belichick area ERA with a 2 and 3 record and three losses were blowouts against TCU, UCF and Clemson. Discontent is building around the program, according to a report by Pat Welter, WRAL News. It's all starting at the top, and these boys are being affected. A parent of a current UNC player told Welter. I don't fault the players. I fought the leadership that created the toxic environment. There is an individualistic mindset. The boys are young and they're feeding into it. It's an unconstructed mess. There is no culture, no organization. It's a complete disaster. According to the report, the players who were recruited by Belichick in the transfer portal have been given preferential treatment. Parents have questioned the lack of communication from the coaching staff and hiring decisions Belichick made in his coaching staff, including bringing aboard two of his sons and the son of general manager Mike Lombardi, are being viewed by some players as nepotism. The lack of experience the coaches have is ridiculous, a source told Welter. They've always done that. Somehow they've convinced us, and it's a lot of us. Because when LeBron James do it, that's all y' all throw. But y' all see he got two of his son and he brought another son.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So we're the only ones that look at nepotism as a bad thing. We get in a position to help a family member or a friend, we won't do it because us look like us say, oh, man, that's Nepotism. He shouldn't have get that job. But they do it all the time, right? It was reported, if I'm not mistaken. Wasn't it reported that if he leaves, his son would get the job, Steve would get the head coaching job? Let's look that up.
Chad Ochocinco
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
They do it all the time. Coaching, waiting.
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, that's been going on for a very long time. Huh. I'm not sure why they're surprised now. I'm not sure why their reports about it now. That's the way it's always been. It's been like that. Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
Coaches, look. Look at. Look at Jerry. Look at Jerry's who he got his daughter, he got his son, he got all his kids working for it.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Most coaches hire coaches. There's kids and family. Yeah. That's because he left the job. He's the DC At. What did DC At? Washington. Steve. I think he was a DC At Washington. Nepotism is. Everybody else can do nepotism. It's. We. We look at it as a bad thing.
Chad Ochocinco
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
I, like I said, my kids don't. Don't want to be in the profession that I'm in. Okay, fine, do your own thing. I never pushed them in any direction. I just say, would you go in the right direction? Hey, I'm gonna give you a shove. Just be the best you can possibly be. Do it all the time. What's the problem now? It seems to be that they're looking at like, the people that's in position. They're not qualified to be in said position. Qualifications only matters to us, Right?
Chad Ochocinco
That too. I. Wait a minute. Now, when it comes to the coaches, the people in those positions have a background in football. They all have a background. They've been doing it for a very long time. Actually, we're doing it at the highest.
Shannon Sharpe
But here's the thing.
Chad Ochocinco
So coming down to the. Coming down to the collegiate level, they had the experience and being able to coach.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. I don't got no problem with that.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay. Right.
Shannon Sharpe
But they started at the top. They didn't start in coach college or high school. They worked their way up. They got put on the staff because my daddy was the head coach, or they got put in position because my dad was the general manager or my dad was the owner. So it was no working your way up. And I don't got no problem with that. I don't have a problem with it. Just like I don't have a problem if LeBron helped his son get on the Lakers or get to the NBA. So what? They do it all the time. But Coach Belichick got a problem with his hands. Now, I don't. I don't know if this. I don't know if this is true. I'm willing to give the man a couple of years, Ocho, because it's different now. Guys come and they go. You got the transfer portal and you got this and that, and it's different. And because you got this nil and you got this collective and you got all of that, you got these, these kids. Now, it ain't just about no. No sneakers. Hey, you need. You need to break these kids off. They need to see it.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, that's it. That's it. You got. You get this. You got it. You gotta play.
Shannon Sharpe
Ain't no more waiting three, four years, Ocho, to get paid. You know, I can get. I prepare your. I can. I can't prepare your son for the NFL. I know what it takes. I coached at an elite level. I've won championship. This is okay. But in the meantime, if you think I'm gonna come to your university and I'm gonna wait four years to make money, you wasting your time.
Chad Ochocinco
That ain't happening.
Shannon Sharpe
No, I mean, if I. I ain't gonna be holding. I ain't gonna lie. Hell, if I was. If I was a kid, you couldn't. You come sitting in Mary Porter house. What you talking about? Why you even come here? You see how I'm living? You think my grandma gonna live like this for another three years? Man, you out your damn mind. Oh, hell no. I don't know what's true. Look, this is a. This is a report, and I'm sure it has a lot to do with. Because people, I'm sure there are some that thought Coach Belichick was going to pick right up where he left off in New England in the heyday. No, it takes time. These are young kids. They're going to make mistakes. Even professionals make mistakes. These kids are going to make mistakes. But it's different. We look at them different now, Ocho. You know why? Because we used to say, Ocho before, man, they ain't getting paid. When you get paid, you get looked at at a different level. I don't care how old you are, you're making money now. Yeah, 18, 19 year old Jeremiah Smith got $4 million. The Williams kid of Alabama, 1.8. You see, Carson Beck got 4 million. Arch Manning making 6. No, no, no, ain't no more. No, no, no, no, bro. You getting paid. You basically a professional.
Chad Ochocinco
And the Funny thing about it is everybody you just named, they're playing their wage.
Shannon Sharpe
You got to.
Chad Ochocinco
They're playing, they're playing up to their wage. They have to, they have to. You know, and all it is, all it is is I call it the starter pack. It's a starter pack. That what it's going to be like when you get to the next level? Because the, the purse is going to.
Shannon Sharpe
Be much bigger than what it is the expectation.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah. Oh yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So are the expectations. LeBron James sent the Internet into a tizzy on Monday when he posted a cryptic tease for his second decision on social media. Ocho, do you have any guesses what this is about? Tickets that were normally to get in $85 are now $485 for his last home game for the Lakers. The last home game the Lakers played the regular season in 2026. Those tickets are going for. The cheapest tickets are $485.
Colin Coward
Damn.
Shannon Sharpe
He may put a tease, I guess. You know, some people say it's a business venture. He has something with Amazon coming out. Is it retirement? I don't, I don't know.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I mean, obviously. I mean, I don't think he would be discussing or talking about retirement or putting out a cryptic tweet about anything when it comes to retiring before the season starts, whatever it is, I'm sure it's probably business related. And you never know when it comes to LeBron, he has so many things going on. He has true surprises. So you, you probably really don't know.
Shannon Sharpe
No, you don't.
Chad Ochocinco
You really don't know.
Shannon Sharpe
But the Internet is going crazy. It doesn't strike me as something that he would do like he gonna let you know. LeBron plays everything close to the vest. He didn't let anybody know that he was going to leave Cleveland until he left. Yeah, he didn't let anybody know he's gonna leave Miami until he left. He let anybody know he was leaving Cleveland again until he left.
Chad Ochocinco
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
So this is very uncharacteristic of him. If it was a, a basketball decision, let's, let's say that, keep it basketball related. Now he could ask that, you know, he could say like, I got this new company or I'm entering into this agreement with Amazon or Google or Microsoft or whatever the case may be, that's one thing, but business related. LeBron James has played it very, very close to the best for 20 plus years.
Chad Ochocinco
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
No, I gotta find me another player. I gotta find me another guy to root for. I don't know who it's gonna be. Who y' all think I should be, Who. Who should I get behind.
Chad Ochocinco
To root for, basketball wise?
Shannon Sharpe
No, that ain't happening. Ain't no Webby. I'm trying to think who I really like. I like Jokic. I got yoke. I gotta pick between yo, Jokic, Luca and Ant Man.
Chad Ochocinco
Ant Man.
Shannon Sharpe
Ant man from the crib. Damn. But I've been on Luca. I've been with Luca for the jump and yoke. Guess I'm gonna have me three. Oh, yeah, but everybody's going crazy wanting to know what LeBron is going to do. They say 10. Seven is when he gonna announce it, right? Tomorrow. Oh, the day of the. Oh, tomorrow, the 7th. Man, he day be going so fast, I don't know what the hell be going on. Huh? Yeah, yeah. O. I just count that. Hold on. November, December, I got about. Got about 85. About 85 more days in 25. And then your boy like a scout on a new route.
Chad Ochocinco
He out. There it is. There it is. There it is.
Shannon Sharpe
You say boat.
Chad Ochocinco
Come on. Hey, let me tell you. Let me come. Come on. Come on back home.
Shannon Sharpe
Get it.
Chad Ochocinco
Get a people what they want.
Shannon Sharpe
All right, guys, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A, Triple X. Scopsanity said Ocho broke in but didn't leave your 5,900. He didn't? The least he could have did. I mean, I. I read this story where somebody broke into this lady, broke into this guy house and cleaned the house, wash the clothes, cleaned the kitchen, wash the dishes and everything. You broke into my house, steal my merchandise, and they leave my money?
Chad Ochocinco
Well, actually, I went in your house and got my merchandise that you refused to send to me. There's a difference. And when you break into someone's house, you're wearing all black. And the one thing I don't want is money in my pocket, all right?
Shannon Sharpe
It ain't supposed to be in your pocket. It's supposed to be in my pocket.
Chad Ochocinco
I want to. You want to hear my speech?
Shannon Sharpe
No, I want to hear your speech. I would hear, so I would hear my money. Shakur said, you're not going to see nothing on them cameras but teeth and chains.
Chad Ochocinco
There it is.
Shannon Sharpe
That's how I knew it was him. Tyler the Great 27, said, it's hard to get Travis involved on offense. The game, when you use him to guard the number one receiver, Worthy. And Kelsey on defense, well, that's a part of it. Bishop Barnett said, do ball Du ball. Then street said Bengals beat them jags. They be 5 and 0. If they would. If. If they would have beat the Bengals. They lost to Jake Browning and the Bengals defense, two and three. Who they y' all play Jags?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, Week two. I think it was week y'.
Shannon Sharpe
All. Oh, y' all beat him.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Yeah, I think it was week.
Shannon Sharpe
Week two of Kevin Norwood Jr. Five interceptions through five weeks is unacceptable for a QB. Yeah. Because if. If he throwing five, that means he gonna have 17 at the end of the season. And that's. That's really high. Wolf. The fact Bengals are better than the Chiefs by default because Browning beat Trevor Lawrence between. It goes towards Ocho death. No joy Lopez says. Can we talk about the terrible caused by the refs? I did fake Hollywood Brown on a shot up the sideline. I thought he got interfered with, but other than that, I thought the game was fairly called. Okay. I thought they called one that kept the drive alive. I thought the receiver from the Jags, Ocho, I thought he slipped. I didn't think I pulled him down. But look, we can go back and dissect and look at calls. They're not gonna get every call, right? They're gonna miss some. They're gonna get some. But it was a great game. Congratulations to the Jag. They earned this victory tonight.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Little Ninja 24 said, what's up, Ocho? Hey, Oo. The sooner you come to terms with the Bengals being trash, the better you will feel about the season. Lol. Love y'. All.
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on, hold on. I feel good, regardless. I feel good.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know what for.
Chad Ochocinco
Because I understand. I understand why we're not playing well.
Shannon Sharpe
Because y' all terrible. So therefore, because y' all terrible.
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, we're terrible. Because I quoted.
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't say that about Baltimore yesterday. Baltimore. You didn't say that by them.
Chad Ochocinco
That's not my team.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay? My Broncos. My Broncos did that thing, didn't ojo.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay. Oh, here we go. Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Johnny Depp said Bingo should pick up Milton from the Cowboys or Mills from the Texas Texans for a new backup qb. I don't think Dallas is moving away on Milton. They like him. I can see them being the situation of Hail mary at the 60 at the 40 yard line and they bring him in just to throw the Hail Mary because he have that kind of arm talent. Lany Ray say big controversy in the chat tonight. The correct ones are calling it a shopping cart or. Or a cart, not a horse and buggy from a little house on the prayer yeah, it's a shopping cart. Well, I mean.
Chad Ochocinco
Shopping cart.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know. Did I? Oh, well, my grandma called it a buggy. Probably put nothing in this buggy. Man, them old people, they.
Chad Ochocinco
They.
Shannon Sharpe
They ain't pronounced nothing, right? I mean, but you knew exactly what they was talking about.
Chad Ochocinco
Exactly. Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
Fuzz Light Year 12 said. Ocho, can y' all do me a favor? Invite Yankee players, coaches and trainers on. I need that nightcap effect at the. For this parlay. Boy, they need to do something, man. They've been giving up. I mean, they got beat, what, like 10, nothing? 10 1. And then they got beat 13 to 7 the other night.
Chad Ochocinco
God.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that's what I said. Aaron Jones. Don't worry. We'll make McDaniels in Philly. As OC he's meant. He's not meant to be a head coach. Come up north, we got you. Yeah. Might be onto something. Tino Davis. Casey plays the Lions in. Casey. What chance you give Casey? A great chance. I mean, it's from week to week, man. I mean, you never know. I mean, look out. Look how Detroit look Week one against Green Bay. Look how they looked ever since Shakur said NFL want to expand and go global. Move bingos to London so we never got to watch them and play where they play when we sleep. Right through that true.
Chad Ochocinco
We got jokes. Okay, okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Lamar Mill says, I noticed you all talk top tier running backs and never mentioned Alvin Camaro. What tier is he? Well, it just so happened that he on a bad team. So it's hard to get the recognition that you deserve when you're on a bad team.
Chad Ochocinco
Bad team. Even though we know we. How good you are.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Jamal the singer when I was 8, called my aunt fat. She backhand slapped me, cut me under my eye. I'll be 34 next year. I still got that scar. Yeah, people didn't play back then, man. Drew Brown said, yo, Organocho, can y' all build a dream offense? You both started? Yeah. Larry Allen at guard. I'm gonna take Jonathan Ogden at one tackle. Gary Zimmerman at another tackle. I'm gonna put. Who gonna be my other guard? I put Zach Martin at one guard.
Chad Ochocinco
Quentin Nelson at center.
Shannon Sharpe
You'll put Quentin Nelson at center? I will rest his soul. Mike Webster be my center quarterback. I'm gonna take seven. I'm a tight end. I'll do Jerry, Tio, Randy as my wide receivers. And I'm put Barry as my running back.
Chad Ochocinco
I like that.
Shannon Sharpe
Who you got? Who your team?
Chad Ochocinco
Shoot, I want the same team you just said. But my receivers is me. My running back is Walter.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay?
Chad Ochocinco
And they got T and Randy as my other two receivers.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay? All right. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. The Jacksonville Jaguars come back late. They score 21 unanswered, then get the go ahead touchdown with 30 seconds remaining as they clip the Kansas City Chiefs 31 to 28. Trevor Lawrence was 18 to 25 to 21. One touchdown, one reception and a fumble, but he played well when he needed to play well. The defense of the Jags got a big time interception, returns at 99 yards and they win the ball game on a Monday night and look very impressive in doing so. We want to thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharpe. And there's my partner and co host, Liberty City's own Bingles Ring of fame honoree, Pro Bowler All Pro, He's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. I'd like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support. Thanks to you, Nightcap has become the phenomenon which has become and thanks to you will continue to be that. So thank you very much. Make sure you check out Shave by La Portier. If you can't find Shea by La Portier in a city or state near you ordered online, we'll ship it directly to your door. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Make sure you go check out my media company Shay Shay Media on all of its platforms and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out. That link is also pinned in the chat. Nightcap has been nominated for two signal awards under the genre best sports podcast and under Video Best Video Podcast co hosting. We're currently leading by fractions of a point now in both categories. We need to run it up. Voting ends midnight on Thursday. Club Shay Shay has also been nominated for two awards under the genre Athlete Shaping Culture and under Video Best Video podcast. We want to thank our special guest, Havoc of Mobb Deep and Messiah Russell, the reigning Olympic gold medal from the Paris Olympics. Thank you guys for joining us again. The jags beat Kansas City 3128. We're off tomorrow. We're back Wednesday. Thank you guys for joining us. I'm unk. He's Ocho. See you Wednesday, guys.
Bobby Bones
Hey, it's Bobby from the Bobby Bones Show. I had an incredible time at this year's iHeartRadio music festival and even got the chance to hang out with Diplo and Bailey Zimmerman while I was there. How did Ashes come together?
Shannon Sharpe
Diplo I pulled up real quick.
Diplo
He was about to leave on tour. You're about to jump in your tour bus and we had like three hours.
Bailey Zimmerman
It was really cool. He really just like randomly showed up to my house and I'm like, oh hey Diplo, what are you doing? He's like, I have a song that I want to show you. And I was like, okay.
Bobby Bones
You can listen to the full episode out now wherever you get your podcasts. And big shout out to my friends at Hyundai for making this possible. Had a blast cruising around festival weekend in the all new Palisade hybrid.
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Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson break down a loaded sports night, touching on NFL drama—like Mike McDaniel’s hot seat in Miami and the Bengals' offensive woes—while hosting Olympic hurdler Masai Russell for an engaging interview. Discussion moves from the realities of coaching turnover and the business of football to track & field greatness, player authenticity, and lifestyle habits. Listeners also got Q&A and takes on nepotism, NIL impacts, and LeBron James’ cryptic "Decision."
The conversation is lively, rapid-fire, and full of genuine camaraderie between Ochocinco and Sharpe. The tone moves freely between humor, heartfelt player perspectives, candid critiques, and deep-dive sports analysis. They bring guests in as friends, foster playful (sometimes hilarious) debates, and don’t shy away from tackling bigger industry issues or airing personal stories.