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Garrett agent Nicole Lynn of Clutch Sports finalized the deal today. Oh, let me guess. I guess LeBron had something to do with that. Cause y'all consider Rich Paul can't do nothing without LeBron, right? But Nicole, congratulations. Clutch Rich. Congratulations. I like to see us win. I like to see us do big things and I pull, I pull for you guys. Congratulations on the contract you YouTube miles, because you the one that had to put the work in. But I'm glad you got something that you feel comfortable with. And hey, you going back, you're staying in Cleveland.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. And listen, a lot, a lot of people said I saw a tweet today and I looked at him like the tweet was along the lines of I thought he wanted to go to a winning team or we stayed for the money. I thought championships were all that mattered. And I thought about it and I.
Mel Reed
Saw that to some people.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah, to some people, I mean listen, championships are a great thing. Obviously it's a team achievement. But to be on a team where you're afforded the opportunity and the chance to actually compete for a championship is. It's a great thing. But it doesn't happen for everybody. Everybody. No, in the ring, everybody.
Mel Reed
Everybody shouldn't win a champion. If every great player won a championship, what's the significance of winning a championship, then if everybody could. If every great player was guaranteed to win. What. Yeah, that's what makes the championship so special because everybody isn't guaranteed. And sometimes lesser tier players win one or multiple.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Mel Reed
Okay. Happened.
Chad Ochocinco
It does. But I know one thing. If Haslam had gave him that conversation and he got. And he got up out of Cleveland and was on the open market, I mean, that deal would look. That deal would look a lot, a lot bigger than what it does now, even though it is great.
Mel Reed
Yeah, I think, man. I think. I think O Joe looking. I think he had another year or two years left on his contract, but he had no more guaranteed money.
Chad Ochocinco
Right.
Mel Reed
See you go ask nicely. They go like, nah, you signed the contract. You say trade me. And you know suitors are going to be lined up by the yin yang.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Especially for that type of player. Absolutely. It won't work for everybody. Now, some people, you notice some people ask for a trade and you see what they did. Okay, yeah, you can get that. Here you go.
Mel Reed
Yeah, and, and, and people like. And I know people like, well, you know, he said this, bro. Everybody gonna be Tom Brady, take less money. And then Tom Brady making more now than he did when he played football for a year. Different now. What NFL, what other player you think is gonna be able to make a car, get a car, get. Get a job like that, make it damn near 40 million a year for the next 10 years or get a Tony Romo deal making 17 million or Troy Aikman making 19 million. Guys, you have to understand, everybody is not in a position to turn down boatloads of money in hopes of winning a championship. There is no guarantee that even if you take less money or you go somewhere else, you're going to win. I got no problem. Yeah, I know what he said. I heard what he said. I was listening to it. But it is what it is. Everybody's not going to be fortunate enough to win a championship. Everybody's not going to be fortunate enough that when their careers up ocho to go get a job to make just as much, if not more money than they did when they were playing. A hundred million over the next three years. How old is Miles Garrett? 29. 28. 29.
Chad Ochocinco
Young boy.
Mel Reed
29. Young.
Chad Ochocinco
He not even 30 yet.
Mel Reed
Yeah, come on, bro.
Chad Ochocinco
And please, what y'all talking about?
Mel Reed
I don't know what he talking about either. Money, talk, crap, cash screens. I don't know where y'all from, but 100 million. You're gonna get a hundred million dollars the next three years. Okay, 100 meal. Maybe I chase a ring later in my career after I'd have made 200 million.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, now you talking.
Mel Reed
Now I can sacrifice a little bit of money in hopes of going to a team that's close. And maybe they need a 34. A 33, 34 year old pass rusher, Allah Von Miller turns into a hired gun. But nah, no team may have been hit harder today than the Bengals. Miles Garrett, $40 million per year extension reset to both pass rushing market. And the benchmark for the highest paid non quarterback. You see what happens, Ocho?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Mel Reed
See if you did this early, if you did something with Trey Hendrickson early, you ain't got to worry about it. If you did something with chase, Chase has 17 other yards and 17 touchdowns. No receiving history has ever had that many receiving yards and that many touchdowns.
Chad Ochocinco
Now you got.
Mel Reed
And he climbed by then with the triple crown.
Chad Ochocinco
You got to pay double for that. You got matter of fact, you got.
Mel Reed
To pay double for that. And your GM and your GM said he gonna be the highest paid non quarterback. That's him. But hey, see sometimes don't show. Every time you open your mouth, a toe pop out cuz your foot in your mouth. Yeah, Mike Brown, cheap ass. Oh, my bad. Mike Brown, cheap tail prostate. Hey, why you talking? You can't giving away my money. Hey, you know when you were a kid. Yeah you just go people I see kids in the store, they just putting stuff on the counter. They parent put that back. They're putting more stuff up here. No, I say put it back. Don't put no more up here. That's what Toby did to bite Brown. Whoa, whoa. Now you know you got a trade tree. Yeah, he done saw two. One guy get 35 million and another guy got 40 million. And you think I'm gonna sign for anything less than 30 plus million? Oh, I wish I might.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. And listen, they don't. They don't have no choice, you know, but to pay check.
Mel Reed
And you already franchise T, so. And you can't. You see the thing is that when you give team give players bonus, you can spread that over the life of the contract. Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
Right.
Mel Reed
So you know. Now in other words, you prorate it. Well, with T, it's one year deal. Where you gonna spread it? You can't. So now you start with $26 million cap here. Chase, you will have to get Chase. Chase gonna be looking to get $100 million over the first three years.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, you got to. You ain't got no choice but to do right. And they, they not. They not finna play. Not gonna play.
Mel Reed
Who is agent?
Chad Ochocinco
I'm not sure who his agent is. I'm not sure. But whoever his agent is ain't finna play either. Especially what happened last season. Absolutely not, bro.
Mel Reed
All I'm going about what you told me. You told me Chase was going to be the highest paid non quarterback. I didn't ask for that. That's what you saying. And now if it's a lie, you said it. Do I need to. Hey. And wearing a few good men. When they, when they asked Colonel Jessup, when Kathy asked Colonel Jessup, do you need me to play back, what you said, he says no. I know what I said. You said, hey, men follow orders or people die. That's what he said. Yeah. So did you think you know this old man don't know what he's talking about. Let's do. No, no, Cathy. Men follow orders or people die. Yep.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay. Simple as that.
Mel Reed
Oh, Chase got rocked. Rocky Arsenal.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, okay, okay.
Mel Reed
I'm not surprised because Rocky is from New Orleans. Is from New Orleans area. He had Marshall Faulk, he had Zeke. I know. He got T. Higgins also. So I Rock will get the money. Get that money, Rock. Get that money. Ocho. Yeah. DK Metcalf. 33 million a year. What you think T asking for? Now.
Chad Ochocinco
See, you see? You see what I mean? Now listen, as my Bengal fans, they've been getting on my head too. Now, they've been getting on my head talking about what you doing. You always talking, we want T here. And it sound like you don't know. What I want. For T. To do is to get as much money as he can after getting franchise. Franchise tag. One year, any year.
Mel Reed
Me, I, I, I ain't giving no discounts. Yeah, I'm not Ojo. Not the first Ojo. Not my first big contract, maybe down the road, but I can't give you a break the first, first time out the gate.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I mean, listen, I, I, I say it all the time, but for selfish reasons, you know, fans of certain teams are only focused on what's best for the team and not what's best for the player itself. That, that's, that's, that's the mindset. As much as I love my bangles, you know, from orange. From orange to the black, from the who to today. I just want the individual because I understand what it took to get where he is. I understand what it's like to be franchise tag and, and, and feeling like a player. Like, well, damn, you don't value me. You don't value what I bring to the table, you know, because to me, most of the time, you know, you franchise me the first year. That's all it says. Because if you did value me, you would pay me. And I go again.
Mel Reed
You know who else watching this with big eyes?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, who that?
Mel Reed
David Mugletta. You know who that is? That's Michael Parsons, agent.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, my goodness. Hey, Michael. Deal. Finna be stu.
Mel Reed
You see what happens when you wait till the umpteenth hour on Joke? You did that with Dak. You had to pay him 60 million. You did it with CD. You had to give him 34 million. Now, Michael Parsons, he says he. Now we gonna put to the test what he said, if it's true or not, about not wanting to be the highest paid defensive player. We go put that to the test. Because guess what, Ocho. We've seen Miles Garrett get two contracts, right? Both of them made him the highest paid at the time. Now, he was. He was eventually surpassed, but for twice. Michael says, hey, I would like to have just one of those on my resume, right?
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, he gonna get it. It's gonna be a lot of it, too. It's gonna be a lot of it.
Mel Reed
Oh, yeah, and rightfully so. But the Bengals did this to themselves, Ocho, by franchising T. And then, see, that's what happens now. DK Gets this. Tc Bro, y'all think y'all about to give me less than 30 million. Really? I mean, is that what y'all thinking? Chase says, hey, hey. Y'all see. Hey, y'all see what Miles got? I'm gonna need five more million. I mean, 105 guaranteed. The first. The. The first. Yeah, 35. I need 35. So basically, okay, I need 35. I need that fully guaranteed the first three years. I need 105 million. Yeah, I need that fully guaranteed. I would need 130. I would need 130 guaranteed, but I would need 105 of that fully guaranteed. So no matter what, come hell or high water, right, I'd be on a rowboat, but I know I got 105 million coming. What, you gonna be in a rowboat? Bad. Please.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, that's funny. You know what? I'm happy for all these dudes, man. Yeah, I'm happy. All the work. All the. All the work you. All the work they put in, you know, on the outside, The. The people, the fans, the people in the chat, you know, that watch the game, your fans of certain teams, you only get to see the finished product. You get to see the finished product on Sundays. You don't understand what goes into it. What goes into it to get to this point to where they're making this kind of money. You just see the finished product on Sundays. Them catching play, them catching passes, them getting sacked, them throwing touchdowns. Like I understand the work that goes into it, which is why I get so happy every time somebody gets that bag like that. Which is why I'm. That's why I'm an advocate, you know, even though I'm a Bengal fan for t. Getting as much as he can, where I feel he can get more elsewhere based on what he's done for us and what he can do for another team if given the chance to maximize his potential and his earnings on his first deal. That's all I'm saying. I would love for it to be in Cincinnati, but I just understand how much Burrow and Chase are going to eat up most of the money and. Oh, were we supposed to just get tea? What's left over that ain't right.
Mel Reed
Hell, no.
Chad Ochocinco
Even as a Bengal fan, that's not. That's not right for him, you know? And like Unc said, just because you take less doesn't guarantee anything. It doesn't?
Mel Reed
Nope.
Chad Ochocinco
It doesn't.
Mel Reed
Hey, hey, Ojo. You know, you say, don't. Hey, don't tell nobody what you got, man. They just paid me this. I'm telling. I ain't lying. I'm telling. Show lives. I'm telling.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, there's a reason they put it out there. Now.
Mel Reed
They stop. I don't know, Ocho. Did they still pass that shoot around where you see where everybody on your teammate and then everybody that played your position around the league, what they make do they still. Did they still do that when you was playing?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, absolutely.
Mel Reed
Hey, get you swole ho. You be on like, oh, whoa, you making that. But funny.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Oh, yeah, I know.
Mel Reed
Hey, I know you walk up to the window with a ski mask for stealing down. You know me, aren't you? Hey, hey, there. There.
Chad Ochocinco
There's some. You look at some names on there, and you look at that. You look at the. The number mount next to the name. Yeah, but now you know he's stealing. Come on, now, man.
Mel Reed
I'll be like, oh, Bob, you know you can't have no pistol on no NFL property. You had to have a gun. I know you hijacking these people, huh? Come on. Ain't no way you show your face up at that pay window and you play it like this here and you making all this money. Hey. That she had people. Hey, Chad, I'm telling you, that. That. That she had people hot. And then you look around the league and see what them Joe was making. I like, oh, no. Oh, hell no.
Chad Ochocinco
Crazy work.
Mel Reed
Oh, yeah, crazy work.
Chad Ochocinco
But I'm excited for these dudes, man. And it's not over. It's not over. It's just starting. It's just getting started.
Mel Reed
I tell people, I said, look, guys in the 70s was mad at the people in the 80s. The 80s were people mad at the people in the 90s. The 90s was mad. It is what it is, bro. I mean, you think. Come on, think about it. Look what Kelly and Ozzie and Christensen and all those guys that came before me, made, based. And look at what I made. And then the guys coming around now, guys making 17, 18. I'm like, whoa, damn.
Chad Ochocinco
Bro.
Mel Reed
Get your paper. I ain't gonna be. Hey, I played in the era. I made good money. Took care of it, too. It ain't how much you make, it's how much you keep. Yeah, I kept a little bit of mine. Didn't make a whole lot, but I kept a lot of it. But, man, I can't. I. I ain't. I ain't mad at these guys here. I ain't gonna. Hey, all I'm saying is, like, but what it did do, Ocho, even though I was a rookie and I saw that list, I like, oh, if he can make that, if he can make 400,000, I know damn well I can make 400, 500.
Chad Ochocinco
Motivating.
Mel Reed
Yes. That's what it did for me. I wasn't hating. I'm like, I'm better than you right now. Right now.
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, I.
Mel Reed
Look, I watched the Titans, I think, like my second year or two, I made $73,000. No. Yeah, I made 70. $73,000. And I'm looking at the tight end. I said, boy, you good and terrible. I said, all I said, I hate to tell you, but you really a one drop pass away.
Chad Ochocinco
From being at home working.
Mel Reed
Working in a warehouse. Yeah. Hey, look.
Chad Ochocinco
Look how God worked. You went from. You went from making 73,000 a year to making 73 twice. Yeah. Come on now. Hey, you probably make 72,000 a day, man.
Mel Reed
Huh? Boy, please never pay me 73,000 a day badly. Hey, hey, I'm a plum. 73,000 a day. How much is that? How much is that a month, Ash? 73,000 a day. They pay me 73,000 a day.
Chad Ochocinco
What would that be.
Mel Reed
And I guarantee that's 2.2 million times 12. That's about 26 million a year. No, I ain't making that, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, okay, my bad.
Mel Reed
But I hope to one day.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. We say, oh, you act a fool.
Mel Reed
Would I? I'm going. Look here. I don't know where I'm going, but I'm going somewhere. I'm going somewhere. I'm going to parson. No, I don't know where I'm going, man. Please. Huh? But there'll be nightcap. Because that'd be that. Hey, they might not be. They might not be nightcap for a week. Or it might be nightcap. Jordan. Have to put it up on the plane on the private jet somewhere. But they gonna beat nightcap.
Chad Ochocinco
The funny thing about it, I could picture you.
Mel Reed
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
If you were making $70,000 a day and acting a fool, which is why it's so goddamn funny, because I know you would be.
Mel Reed
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, my goodness.
Mel Reed
Oh, man. I ain't no other like that. I wasn't until I made 73, 000. How was it? Bad? Please. Hell, no.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, okay.
Mel Reed
That.
Chad Ochocinco
That. That was a good one. That was a good one.
Mel Reed
Ocho, Sauce Garner has a question for you. Can somebody educate me on why the cornerback market is significant? Lower than a DN and a wide receiver? Highest paid pass rusher, 40 million and highest paid non. What? Highest paid pass rushes in the NFL. Miles Garrett makes 40 million. Max Crosby, 35 and a half. Nick Bosa. Because here's the thing, Sauce. You can't impact the game like those guys can.
Chad Ochocinco
I like that you put it like.
Mel Reed
Because, see, what you gonna do? Not pass the ball if you don't pass the ball. Yeah, you're right. You could somewhat neutralize what Max Crosby and the other guy do. I can just stay away from you. I ain't got to throw to you. Right. I mean. I mean, guys do attack you now if you was time, like time and I, we talk all the time. He said, sharp. If I'm playing right now, how much you think they have to pay me? I said, what they pay the DNS.
Chad Ochocinco
Exactly. He bought a total. He put a totally different dynamic to the position.
Mel Reed
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Totally different. And you know, I understand what Sauce is saying. In the end.
Mel Reed
I do. I get it.
Chad Ochocinco
But they might not impact the game, but I feel DB is the most difficult position of them all. It absolutely is you paying receivers that know where they're going. 30 north of 30. Some north of 40 million. And you telling me I have to Go out here and stop these elite players week in and week out. Why shouldn't I be thinking as much when I'm.
Mel Reed
It's the hardest. It's the hardest job to play Ocho. Yeah. Because everything you do, you have to do it backwards. Backwards. And when people say you look at Ginger Rogers and Predator stair.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Mel Reed
She had a harder job because Fred of stare lead. She had to do everything he was doing, doing it backwards. And she did it in heels and a ball gown.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah.
Mel Reed
So you're asking a man to say, hey, you got Tyreek. So I want you to backpedal for about five to six yards and then I need you to turn and run with him. Oh, my bad. He running the comeback. He ain't running to go. Damn. Oh, he run. Oh, damn. He running over. He ain't running to go. He ain't running out. Oh, you got him on the shallow cross, too. Ah, damn. He ran a whip. He ain't running a shallow crawls. You got all that? Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Ah, that's crazy. I totally get I told you. Listen, as a former DB myself, I'm with you. When you're right, at some point, you know there's going to be a DB that's going to crack that $40 million range. I'm not too sure.
Mel Reed
It ain't going to be no time soon. Hell, they barely. They're barely in the 20s.
Chad Ochocinco
For real?
Mel Reed
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
What did Pat Jr get?
Mel Reed
Pat got what, what, 20, 21 or 22 a year.
Chad Ochocinco
That's.
Mel Reed
I think Rams is the highest. Isn't Rams at the highest?
Chad Ochocinco
I ain't know. I ain't know it was that low. Huh?
Mel Reed
That's. Yeah, they ain't nowhere near the 30s. They probably about five, six years away from the 30s. Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
That's significantly low. And I'm no disrespect to the chat. I'm talking about NFL, NFL players. So I'm not comparing it to, you.
Mel Reed
Know, that's what we base it on. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Look, not compared to us normal folks.
Mel Reed
Yeah, yeah. And that's what, that's what, you know, a lot of time, you know, people say, well, if I made that up, of course. But you're looking at it from a salary that you already made.
Chad Ochocinco
Right?
Mel Reed
So, yeah, of course you would go from 75,000 to 10 million or 15, 20 million. But if you feel that you should get more.
Chad Ochocinco
Right.
Mel Reed
Are you willing to go from 75,000 just to 82? Probably not. Cheese average. Yeah. Ramsey is 24.1. So they, they, they three years away. From 30 ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
You know who might be close though I'm not sure when Sauce is up.
Mel Reed
Stingley.
Chad Ochocinco
And I'm not sure when Derek Stingley is up, but my God. Well, that goddamn Derek Stingley. Boy, man, bro, he good.
Mel Reed
But we got. Hey, all I know is this. There's some great corners, some young corners in this league. Number two endeavor is the best. Oh, yeah, number two, the best. That joke is so smooth, man. That joker like he gliding. Nice.
Chad Ochocinco
He nice. Very nice.
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Julie Stewart-Banks
It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League, and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson.
Nate Thompson
I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say, and not just about hockey.
Julie Stewart-Banks
Believe me, he does. Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's gonna be, well, it's gonna be quite the ride. We're officially linemates, Nate. We're the Energy Line.
Nate Thompson
We'll have plenty of folks join us, current players, some of my former teammates, hall of Famers. And wait till you see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex.
Julie Stewart-Banks
Okay, we'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey and try to do what energy lines are supposed to do, provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate?
Nate Thompson
I'm vibing Julie. I'm ready to roll.
Julie Stewart-Banks
Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Mel Reed
Devonte Adams is headed to selling Southern California, inking a two year deal worth 46 million. 23 million. He got 26 million guaranteed. Adams arrives in LA as the Rams prepare to part ways from former Triple Crown winner Cooper Cup. Ocho, you like this move?
Chad Ochocinco
Absolutely. The funny thing, I talked about it earlier in the show. You lose the Cooper cup, one of the best route runners of all time. A triple crown. Not too far removed from that triple crown, I might add. Then you get P. Nakua, comes out of nowhere. They put him in the positions in which they used to put Cooper cup in. And he's just that good. He's good. You can play on the outside. He can play on the outside big, fast. I mean, he's not blazing fast, but he's fast enough. And then. Okay, now you're losing cup and you're able to go get Devonte Adams. Have we seen devonte Adams before? I'm not. Not the one with New York jets, not that one. Not the one with Las Vegas Raiders where they didn't use them the right way, but still get it done. Because I saw flashes of brilliance and what we're used to seeing from Devonte Adams when he was a Green Bay man, he gonna be. He might have a little resurgence. That's what I like to call it. You got your money, so there's no reason for them not to use you offensively. Put you in the same positions that they put Cooper Cup. You can run the same exact routes. You can get open. You don't need help. One of the few receivers in the NFL. I don't need McVeigh to scheme me open. Tell me what you want me to do and let me show you. Watch me go do it. He's surgical with them feet now. Always.
Mel Reed
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Chad Ochocinco
Always had.
Mel Reed
Yeah. If I like this matchup and he has a guy that can get in the football, he can put. He can put the. He can put the football in places that's going to give you a chance to run. Because that's the difference is that a lot of guys can hit you. But can you hit me with the ability to run? Then I don't have to break my stride pattern.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Mel Reed
You look at what the way Joe throws. Chase. Chase catch the ball. He just take off.
Chad Ochocinco
He can do so much when he got the ball in his hands. Anytime you can throw a receiver a five yard out, a slant, a hit, and there's a chance that they might go. Hit the head off the goal post.
Mel Reed
Yep.
Chad Ochocinco
Man, stop playing.
Mel Reed
Yeah, stop playing. And you look at. Like I said, we talked about deceivers. You know, you got McDuffie in Kansas City. He coming up in a couple of years. Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Mel Reed
You got Stingley. You have to see Stingley. Yeah. So we. I don't know if Sauce has done anything or maybe they go, we're gonna probably have to do something with Sauce here shortly.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Mel Reed
But I. I like to move. I like Tay going to the rate the. The Rams.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I do. I like it a lot, especially the office. The office is not going to miss a beat. They not going to miss a beat.
Mel Reed
Joy Bosa and the 49ers are having good conversation, and this feels like he is heading towards a deal. Nothing is done, but Bosa brothers wants to be together and probably will get that this year, which likely means it will be a moderate deal with heavy incentives. The 49ers can offer joy playing time, but also a role where he doesn't have to put wear and tear on his body, which could keep him healthy for the duration of a season. He had Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
He has that ever happened before?
Mel Reed
When he's in there? He can. He'll. He'll record. He's, you know, but he's missed 40 games, and he still has 72 sacks over his career. So it just goes to show you, when he's on the field, he can make a difference. We just got to keep his ass on the field.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Has this ever happened before? I know there have been two brothers.
Mel Reed
Played together.
Chad Ochocinco
Played together.
Mel Reed
I know I came off the top of my head.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, that's. That's amazing. I mean, I. I think that's dope. Just the. The fact that you have the opportunity to.
Mel Reed
No, I don't think Preston and Drew Pearson was brothers. I don't think they were brothers, Ocho. I think they just had the same last day. Have two brothers ever played together? Oh, yeah. The Griffin brothers in Seattle.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, God, Dog. And how could I forget that? That wasn't even that long ago.
Mel Reed
Linebackers.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, that wasn't even that long ago. Yeah, that's right.
Mel Reed
Right. Hold on. What about Derek and TJ Watt? One was a fullback in Pittsburgh, right? Yeah. Not in NFL. Ronde was in Tampa and Tiki was in New York. Oh, yeah, the McCarty brothers. Remember that trade he won that left the Tennessee and wind up going to New England.
Chad Ochocinco
That's right. Yep. Bill did bring him over there. That's right. That's right.
Mel Reed
Yeah. But I like it. Hopefully they get it done. I mean, they seem to want to play with each other. I don't think they played. Was he there when he. I don't think he. Nick wasn't there when Joy was at Ohio State. He came the year Joey left and Nick came. Or was Nick a freshman when Joey left?
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, that's exciting. That has to be exciting.
Mel Reed
Oh, yeah, the jets and Quinnie Williams and the linebacker Williams. They brothers, right. Queen 56 and 93 and 95. They are. I thought so. Yeah, Quinny and Quincy. But I like this Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Mel Reed
Eagles stand a standout. Rookie Quinon Mitchell got a wild tattoo after winning the Super Bowl. Hell of a year. Wow. Round one pick 20 or 22. Is that 22? Super bowl champs got a lot done in one day. Till next time, bro.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, that's live. He's earned the right.
Mel Reed
If I win 20, I don't care if I win 15. Super Bowls.
Chad Ochocinco
You ain't telling me nothing.
Mel Reed
You get nothing. What? Hell, no.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Mel Reed
That thing hurt. Hold on.
Chad Ochocinco
You ain't got no. You ain't got no tattoos. See, now we can add that. We can add that to the list of things to do in 20, 25. Get you get your tattoo. What that mean?
Mel Reed
You help you, buddy. Nah, that ain't fit to happen.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, it's so funny. I mean, when I think about it, I would think someone like you would have tattoos. Then my crazy. My crazy tale. I got 44 and you talking about you ain't got none.
Mel Reed
I thought the only time I ever thought about getting a tattoo.
Chad Ochocinco
What's her name?
Mel Reed
I found notes name my Mary Porter. Mary V. Porter. That's her name. And my sister, because I was telling my sister about it, and my sister's like, shan, that'd be so nice. My sister found something where my. Where my grandmother wrote her name, Mary V. Porter. And I thought about it. I said, libby, I would love to. I said, but you know, Granny be so mad. She hated tattoos.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, okay, son.
Mel Reed
She's like, son, don't mark your body up.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay? I got it.
Mel Reed
You know, the more you got them old people talking about, yeah, oh, yeah. She like. Like I'm actually drawing on my body like I'm scribbling something. And I. And I thought about it and I had. I had the piece of the. The thing that she. That she had wrote her name on. And I was going to take her to a tattoo and have it put it right over my heart. That's what I was going to put it right here. And I just thought about it. I said, man, granted, man, get me mad Granny. Probably be boy Granny roll over in the grave. I could just hear now, son, why you mark your body like that?
Chad Ochocinco
Even her name, she still would be. Be satisfied. Listen, my grandma. I don't.
Mel Reed
Maybe.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't know if I was 15 or 16, but I got. I got my. I got Philippians 4, 13. I could do all. All things through Christ was strengthen me. And I got A test. And I came home, she was pissed, boy. Or she was pissed. I was like. Well, listen, I just thought about, you know, something I would like. Something that would resonate with me and resonates with you as well, because you're the one who had me in Bible study. You the one who had me in church every Sunday. Boy, she was hot. Not only was she hot, years later, I got about my senior year in high school. I was probably up to 22 tattoos by that point.
Mel Reed
What?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I'm covered up everywhere. I just. You never see it because I'm normally covered up. So if you see certain pictures, you pay attention.
Mel Reed
Yeah, My blackness.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Mel Reed
It's hard to see in the dark. That was you coming up with.
Chad Ochocinco
And I'm covered up everywhere, man.
Mel Reed
From.
Chad Ochocinco
From my ankle all the. All the way up, man, to my. Yeah, I almost did my face by accident, too. I'm glad I didn't.
Mel Reed
Bud, please.
Chad Ochocinco
No, nothing big. Nothing big. You know, small, Small, small, small stuff, but I, I, I didn't do it.
Mel Reed
Nah, you did the right thing. Don't do that, Ocho. Why would you do that, Ocho?
Chad Ochocinco
I. I'm just. I, I'm. I don't know. I don't know.
Mel Reed
You thought about it? You ain't had nothing better to do with your time?
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, I really did. I really did think about it. I did. I did. I was going through a phase. I was going through a phase.
Mel Reed
What was her name?
Chad Ochocinco
I was gonna put on my. My face.
Mel Reed
Yeah, I would.
Chad Ochocinco
I was gonna put a little cross. It was. No, no, woman. A little tiny cross right here. Right here on the side. Huh? Right here. Just a little tiny cross. Yeah. I ain't. I ain't do it, though. I ain't do it. It wouldn't look too good on tv, you know?
Mel Reed
Yeah, no, no, it was. I couldn't do that, Me. I mean, congratulations to Quinon. I mean. Hey, bro, congrats. I mean, first round pick, first rookie season, go to the bowl. You know, a lot of times, Ocho, when you have that level of success, you're like, man, this is easy. It ain't.
Chad Ochocinco
No, it ain't.
Mel Reed
Trust me, bro, there are a lot of guys that play 13, 14, 15 years and never go, let alone win. I mean, just think about, you're a Chiefs player, and you came in three years ago. You don't know nothing about Super Bowls.
Chad Ochocinco
Yep. And winning.
Mel Reed
Yeah. Oh, you played with Tom Brady all those years.
Chad Ochocinco
That's live.
Mel Reed
Somebody talking about Amber Rose. Yeah. Amber Rose got her sons tattooed on her forehead.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, and she can get rid of that, though, right? Because technology is so advanced now. You can act.
Mel Reed
Yeah. You get rid of anybody, man. I think her. She ain't getting rid of. I mean, I don't know if you saw the interview, Ocho, she keep it.
Chad Ochocinco
It was good. It was good. It was real.
Mel Reed
Yeah. I mean. I mean, Ocho, for me, I like talking to people. Like, a lot of these people. I. I had no. I had no idea I would ever meet.
Chad Ochocinco
Right, right.
Mel Reed
To talk to a Tabitha Brown or Ms. Pat or Amber Rose. People like some of these athletes, man, I'm sitting down, I'm talking to Magic Johnson.
Chad Ochocinco
Crazy.
Mel Reed
Talking to a cat. And Daniel Rollins and all these. All these. The comedians. And Gary Owens and Bruce Bruce and Lavelle Crawford. I've seen Bruce, Bruce many times perform in Atlanta. Wait. And to sit down and talk to him. And you're right. You have a perception. And then when you get down and talk to the person. And I'm not so talking about so much on camera. I'm talking about you get an opportunity to talk to him before the before and after. Then you have. I like. Okay, okay. An interesting video came out of the Dominican Republic this week. Again, her chat. Take a look. Let's see what this thing talking about.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey.
Mel Reed
Oh, Lord have mercy. Hey, you know that we need black cowboy.
Chad Ochocinco
You know, I could ride, you know. You know, I rode a bull. I could ride horses, man.
Mel Reed
I rolled, too.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah. I ride like.
Mel Reed
She was a. She was a Philly, though. You know what I'm saying? Don't joke. I was just like that. I'm with you Slow. Just like that, too, Ocho. Just like that. Just like that. As a matter of fact, I had one hand out too.
Chad Ochocinco
Just like that.
Mel Reed
I forgot. Yeah, yeah. Get our.
Chad Ochocinco
Listen, Hey, I went on the trail ride. Obviously, I had the kids with me. The baby had her own horse. All my kids had their own horse. So I'm on the trail. I told the guy on the trail, I say, sir, listen, I know how to ride. I have experience. So if at any point I might drift off the trail. Most of the time, the trail horses, they discipline. They don't want to leave. They always want to stay in line, man. Well, we got about 10 minutes into that trail, and I got bored, man. I came up by that trail and I. I see y'all later, man. I was. I was gone. I was gone. In my camera, the kids, all the kids, they was going back. The trip, the trail ran over and they coming in on the Back on the back end, like, 30 minutes later, I came in Harlem.
Mel Reed
You should have went. You should be in Philly because Philly got those. Those black cowboys. You see that? You saw that? Did you see that documentary? Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
No. No, I didn't see the documentary. Every time I go to City Unc, I never know where the horses are. When I go to Houston. When I go to. When I go to. When I go to Houston.
Mel Reed
But they got the rodeo. You should win. You should have went last week because they had the rodeo. They got the rodeo going on.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, but I want to. I want to ride. Every time I see people at the rodeo, they partying and turning up. I don't care about turning up. Now, if you got horses, you got bulls or something, you know, I can. I can partake in. Now, that's something I'm excited to do.
Mel Reed
No, I'm gonna sit down. I'm gonna sit there and watch and see what they got, what they got to eat. Interesting. They got fried Twinkies, fried Twix, the Snickers and stuff like that. Funnel cakes. I'm looking.
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, nah, nah. If I'm going to roll, I want just that. I want the experience. I want to smell. I want. I'm gonna smell. You know, horses.
Mel Reed
Yeah. Bull. I don't.
Chad Ochocinco
I want to ride.
Mel Reed
I grew up on a farm. I don't smell enough hog, cow, chicken, turkey, goat, dog, cat. See, I'm good.
Chad Ochocinco
See, that's not fair. I grew up in the inner city. I grew up in inner city, so I have an appreciation for cows and all pigs.
Mel Reed
I got appreciation, too. That's why I know I don't want to smell no more. Yeah, I got a great appreciation for it. Being there all the time on Joe let me knew I didn't want to be this. I didn't want to be that no more.
Chad Ochocinco
Listen, you're lucky there. There are places.
Mel Reed
If.
Chad Ochocinco
If. Now, I just got. I just got a new house. Now, the way things are going on. Nightcap. If I just. Why? If I. If. If you see me with a stable.
Mel Reed
They eat too much Ocho and a few horses, they eat your ass out of the house at home.
Chad Ochocinco
Well, I'm gonna blame you. I'm gonna blame you. I'm gonna blame Ash. I'm gonna blame.
Mel Reed
Duh.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm gonna blame y'all.
Mel Reed
Ash can tell you.
Chad Ochocinco
Ash.
Mel Reed
Ash F. Ashley. Mom got a ranch.
Chad Ochocinco
One horse won't be bad now. One horse what? It's just me.
Mel Reed
One horse eat like, 10 dogs.
Chad Ochocinco
See, I don't know how Dogs eat. Because I'd be on the road.
Mel Reed
I don't know what that's like, boy. Hey, them horses can eat. Sweet. Yes. Twelve hundred pounds.
Chad Ochocinco
And I know. Yeah, yeah. But give me a number. Give me a number. A month. I know, Ash, you know what we talking about?
Mel Reed
What do you think? A couple of thousand? Yeah, yeah. Or a year? Yeah. It all depends, like, how well you gonna keep it. Because obviously in Miami, you gotta have. You're gonna have to stable in somewhere else.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, you know. You know all the horses in Davey. I just bought a new house. A new house out there in Davies, so that. The stable.
Mel Reed
But you're not gonna store him at your house? No, he's gonna be stored at a.
Chad Ochocinco
Facility at the stable. Yeah. Matter of fact. Yeah. It's called being BM Bar Ranch. I think I said that right. BM Bar Ranch, which is where I take 40ft.
Mel Reed
Yeah. I'm gonna say somewhere like 40, $50,000 a year.
Chad Ochocinco
That. That ain't bad. That ain't. Ain't bad.
Mel Reed
I'm good. I tell you what. I'm gonna call my guy tomorrow. I call. I'm gonna call Bob Baffert. He's a good friend of mine. I'm gonna ask him.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, wait.
Mel Reed
I'm gonna say Bob with the gray hair. Yeah. And he. The real American Pharaoh. Justified. Yes.
Chad Ochocinco
Tell him, let me get one of his horses.
Mel Reed
You don't want one of them horses. They'll feed him. Just paying for it. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah.
Mel Reed
Listen.
Chad Ochocinco
I already know. I already know.
Mel Reed
They. I mean, you. They. I mean, some of those horses. You paying 3, $400,000 for a live fold.
Chad Ochocinco
That's crazy. Yeah, that's great. I don't want no part of that.
Mel Reed
I love.
Chad Ochocinco
I love horses, but not to that extent.
Mel Reed
No, no, no, no, no. Like, horses now. I take a little. A mini cow, a little mini goat. I like them. A boat. That's something I never wanted, right? I ain't never want no boat.
Chad Ochocinco
If I'm boat.
Mel Reed
B O A T. You know B O A T stand for Ocho, right? Acronym, Short. Bust out another thousand. Okay. That's what you gotta do to keep it, because you keep it on salt water. You gotta constantly keep that salt water grinder down. No, I'm good. Okay.
Chad Ochocinco
If I was good, if I was to get. See, I wouldn't want a boat. If anything, I would have my. Anything outside of my norm. It would have to be extravagant. So if I'm gonna get a boat, it gotta be a yacht. It just can't be no, any yacht. I want a yacht like Jerry Jones. I want to yacht like Shahid Khan. I mean, I would never, I would never reach that type of boy.
Mel Reed
You talking about 100, 200 meals?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, that's why I say I would, I would, I would never reach that type of wealth. It's just a thought of if I'm gonna do it, it would have to be like that. I ain't gonna have to ask it. Oh, no, that's not happening. Yeah, I go, I go rent one, you know, for a day for me and the kids.
Mel Reed
Give me a bass boat. No, I ain't trying to get in there. I can fish. I can fish from the shore.
Chad Ochocinco
What about. You said a bass boat or fast?
Mel Reed
Yeah, a bass bass boat.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay. Yeah, I'm not expensive.
Mel Reed
Yeah, no, no. I could be like Kevin. Kevin Van Dam or Mike I. Canela E. Smith, somebody like that.
Chad Ochocinco
Right, right, right.
Mel Reed
And I don't see Bill Dance, Roland Martin, Ernest Hensley. Yeah, I, I, I don't know. The yacht. I don't like the water like that.
Chad Ochocinco
How you fish? That's, that's boring.
Mel Reed
My grandparents got me into fishing, and that was an opportunity for us to like to be with them. And, you know, Grandpa. Oh, y'all, when I come up, I don't know how y'all did it, but you wasn't sitting up under no grandparents, so that was really your time to bond. I hate, you know, at the time, I used to hate it.
Chad Ochocinco
Right?
Mel Reed
Hey, my grandfather on one side, me and Spanky, my brother, me and my brother on one side. That Joker Hollow across the lake. Hey, bring me some more baits. What did you do? Hey, one of y'all bring me y'all rod. He done got his rod caught on a stump or something that broke the line right now. We got to take him out right now. We sitting up there like this here. Cause we ain't got nothing to fishing with.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Yeah. I can't do it.
Mel Reed
Oh, my grandma. Hey, boy, bring me the tackle box. Oh, Lord have mercy.
Chad Ochocinco
Geez. Yeah. I can't do it. I can't do it. I don't have the pace for it. I can sit, I can, I can sit on my PC or PS5 or Xbox, and I could play Warzone, Call of Duty, FIFA, eafc. I sit and do that for eight, nine hours on, no, every, every day. But if you tell me to go fishing for an hour and I got to sit there and wait for the fish, I got to sit down, wait on the fish and wait for them to Bite, man. I know. 30 minutes. I'm clocking out. I'm clocking out, man.
Mel Reed
We'd be going fishing all day. Oh, we gold in the morning or what? All day we go early in the morning. And please, hey. Oh, yeah, and please, especially we go saltwater fishing. We go down to like Sapphire Island. That's where they brought the geeches. That's where they offloaded a lot of them. And they still speak that Gullah. So we go to Sapphire Island. We go and we go, we go. We be gone all day. Even if we go to those lakes, we go to like needle eye lake or something like that. Yeah, man, Ocho, we be gone all day.
Chad Ochocinco
I can't do it.
Mel Reed
Hey, my grandma loved the fish. And as she got old, as she got older, man, my sister used to take her to the thing and be out there by herself. Okay, let me come back and get me around. Around 5 o'clock, my sister take my grandma out there. It be hot. Yeah, her and my aunt. Her and my aunt, Aunt Emma, they go down to salt. Go to saltwater. She taught my grandma how to throw a real cuff for the longest time. My grandma fish would have cane pole. How to throw. How to throw a rod, huh?
Chad Ochocinco
With a canyon pole with the straight path on the front of it.
Mel Reed
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a cannonball. Yeah, yeah. Somebody told me. Yeah, yeah. We call catch brim. Walmouth, white perch, croaker, shad. Bony ass shad. Nasty. Hold on. Somebody put Sapphilo in there. What y'all know about Sappalo?
Chad Ochocinco
What's Safalo?
Mel Reed
That's. It's from. It's near Savannah, but that's where the Geechees, right? Sapolo Island, Charleston. They offloaded a lot of people that look like us a long time ago. And a lot of it's original. It's there when you go and you see it. You like Ocho? It looks just like it did 100 years ago, 150 years ago.
Chad Ochocinco
Still the same.
Mel Reed
Look the same and they talk the same.
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Julie Stewart-Banks
It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League, and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson.
Nate Thompson
I wore nine NHL sweaters, and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say, and not just about hockey.
Julie Stewart-Banks
Believe me, he does Energy Line with Nate. And JSB is the name of the podcast, and it's gonna be, well, it's gonna be quite the ride. We're officially linemates, Nate. We're the Energy Line.
Nate Thompson
We'll have plenty of folks join us. Current players, some of my former teammates, hall of Famers, and wait till you see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex.
Julie Stewart-Banks
Okay. We'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey and try to do what energy lines are supposed to do. Provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate?
Nate Thompson
I'm vibing, Julie. I'm ready to roll.
Julie Stewart-Banks
Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Mel Reed
Oh, Rose Sparks is a game changer in the bedroom. It's a fast acting ED treatment that dissolves under your tongue, getting you hard in 15 minutes on average and lasting up to 36 hours. So that's when the mood is right. You'll be ready. Ro wants to help couples have great sex. And sometimes that means using Ro Sparks, but other times it means asking your partner the right questions, which is exactly what we'll be doing in a little game. And it's time for our newest segment. Ocho. Spark it or skip it.
Chad Ochocinco
Skip it. I like that. I like that.
Mel Reed
Okay, so how this work, Ocho? We talk about an item in the bedroom or a place to do it, and you and I both decide. If it's a yes, spark it. If it's a no, skip it.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay. Okay.
Mel Reed
The shower.
Chad Ochocinco
Skip it, skip it, Skip it. You don't never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. I don't know what you've experienced in your lifetime. I'm not sure who you dated, but you never get in the shower with a woman. For one. The water's scolding hot. The water is scalding hot, but you turn it on.
Mel Reed
You turn it on warm.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, Joe, that ain't no, no, no. I tried it. I tried it. I tried it multiple times when I was in high school, and I don't know what in the World, they were thinking, and how they Women take a shower with the water boiling hot. Not normal hot. Boiling hot. I would never do it again. The second. The second thing with that is you always at the back for the shower, and you cold.
Mel Reed
Because that's what I need to be. All the action whack. That's what I need to be. It's the one time I want to be in the back. I wanted to be in the back, you know what I'm saying? Oh, Joe. Hey, y'all go to the back. That's where I want to be. Thank you. Appreciate you. It's something about wet skin. No, I don't know. If you do. It's something. You bring music to your ears. No, it sound like Luther Vandross singing.
Chad Ochocinco
No, no, no.
Mel Reed
Don't you remember your toe? You know what I'm saying? That would sound like.
Chad Ochocinco
I guarantee you, if you ask 100 men. Yeah, I know about that sound. I love the sound. You ask 100 men if they enjoy and like shower sex, I guarantee you half of them say no. No, it's.
Mel Reed
It's.
Chad Ochocinco
To me, it's a horrible experience. Shower anything in water. It just. It just. It.
Mel Reed
I ain't gonna lie to you. I let her get it first, Ocho. I let her get it first. I got the big old big tub and shower that come like a waterfall.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, okay, that's different. Now y'all both get underneath that shower.
Mel Reed
And when you see that, you see that water beading up on her body. You know what I'm saying? The water bead like, you know, you got a car with your. Right? The water beading up on the car?
Chad Ochocinco
Yes, sir.
Mel Reed
And you see that water beading up on her body? Her body glistening.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes, sir. I just. I can't do it. I'm just being honest with you. I. I think you.
Mel Reed
You.
Chad Ochocinco
You must.
Mel Reed
You know how the church mothers. Ocho, you know them church mothers do that thing in the church that. That. That's very Hit them, right? I can't.
Chad Ochocinco
I can't do it on. I'm just being honest. Shower. Shower sex or shower sex. Horizontally or vertically?
Mel Reed
Hey, the chat. The chat say. Yeah. 61% right now. Yeah, y'all age. Hey, yeah, I got a big old. Bigger. A big one. Big one, ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, that's 61. I guarantee they under 21. That's exciting. When you're young. That's exciting. Ain't trying to be in the back of the shower, man. Sit back there freezing, she. Then the water's too hot. You don't want to go under the water because you're gonna burn yourself. I ain't. I don't wanna. I don't wanna.
Mel Reed
Oh, yeah, they do have it. That's that. Now, look, I'm in there for that reason. Now we ain't putting. You know, every once in a while, you know, you know, I wash it back. You know, I soap it up. You know what I'm saying? Don't yo. That I get in there with that intention. That's my intention.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes, right.
Mel Reed
Sometimes plan don't go according to plan. You know what I'm saying, don't you. You don't talk about.
Chad Ochocinco
That's a good one.
Mel Reed
And you know what I'm saying? We're. Told you one time, you know, you pick a leg up. Let me get. Let me get your foot. Yeah, the next thing you know, Ocho, I'm like this here. I'm just saying it happened. I don't know what happened. It happened. All right, Ocho, the next one. Candle wax. You know how you hit the candle and you let. You drip that. Drip that candle on the back.
Chad Ochocinco
I like that. I like that. Listen, I use the candle wax. I used to use this as a part of foreplay, you know, when you meet somebody for the first time. Not only did I use a candle wax, I used to use ice. Well, you hear me? So.
Mel Reed
You just told me. You told me I was. I was ancient when I told you about the ice dripping.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah, you talk about. You talk about tracing ice. Oh, that's back in the 80s. Ain't nobody doing that no more. I'm talking about using the candle wax while in the act of 40. I mean, the act already.
Mel Reed
No, no, no, you gotta put that on. You gotta put that on. Dim the lights. You gotta cut the lights down.
Chad Ochocinco
No, dim the lights.
Mel Reed
Yeah, dim the light. Dim light. Ocho, I just want to see a little bit. I don't want to see the whole. I just want to see a little.
Chad Ochocinco
No, I got. Listen, I got.
Mel Reed
Less is more. Less is more. This is more.
Chad Ochocinco
You gotta. You gotta learn to use the ice trick, man. Crushed ice, toes in your mouth, right? You hear me? No, listen to me now. Listen to me. Stay with me. You already in the act of engaging. Then you use the candle wax, right? Depending on her flesh for pain, on how much pain she can tolerate. You take the wax and allow it to drip on the nip. On the. On the nipples. You feel me? It is a phenomenal sensation. For those that haven't tried in the chat, you should try that. Like, I. Listen, I used to come and. When I was in high school and college, I came with a package, and women used to come and be able to pick out what package they wanted me to. To do. No, I'm serious. You laughing. I'm serious. I had to make money some kind of way.
Mel Reed
But for me. But see, O2, I got them big old. You know. I don't know if you've seen them, Chad. Y'all ever seen them big old ice? Them big old ice cubes? It'd be round ball. I got a square when. You got a square when Atlanta got my number and everything in it. You know what I'm saying? Don't try getting that thing. And, you know, I have it like. Like a cue ball. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay.
Mel Reed
You know, I just roll it. You know, I'm just. You just rolling?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Mel Reed
Hey, you know what I'm saying? With ice. Right. But I'm candle sparking. I'm sparking it.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, you got smart. You got to try that. Yeah. Listen. All right.
Mel Reed
Ocho handcuffs. Skip.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I'm a skip it. I'm a skip it because that's. That's triggering. That's. That's traumatizing. I don't even like. You don't even like pretending.
Mel Reed
I can't give her that. I can't give her that kind of control.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, no, no, Especially you give it up to the wrong person, you know? What if she put you in handcuffs and she know the passcode to your phone?
Mel Reed
I come about them things. I come about. I come up out the mancu. Nah, I can't. I can't give her that kind of control, man. What?
Chad Ochocinco
You said if you in handcuffs and she. And she pick up your phone and go through it.
Mel Reed
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
You could have better.
Mel Reed
Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. Do you think y'all think I'm Houdini? New.
Chad Ochocinco
Chat.
Mel Reed
Hey. And I know people. Hey, look, some people. Some people like to be bound. Some people like to be restrained and all that stuff. Stuff.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Mel Reed
I ain't into that. I ain't.
Chad Ochocinco
Listen, I just go ahead.
Mel Reed
I mean. Yeah, people about. Hey, hey, you know, you. No, I don't want to do none of that.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey.
Mel Reed
Nope.
Chad Ochocinco
Listen, I used to be, man. I. I had. I had a wild life when I was younger, man. Bondage.
Mel Reed
Yeah. Oh, man, I'm good.
Chad Ochocinco
Tying up, dominating this. That's the old me, man.
Mel Reed
I.
Chad Ochocinco
Listen, I. I got baptized now.
Mel Reed
So I guess. I guess the handcuffs are for her.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it could be, or vice versa, depending on it. Depending on if you have a woman that's aggressive and likes to take over.
Mel Reed
But you need. But she need to be flexible. Cause she need to be able to put her hands behind her back and still be able to. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying, don't y'all?
Chad Ochocinco
I'm with you when you're right. I'm with you when you're right.
Mel Reed
All right, last but not least, in the car. Spark it.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes, Spark it. Spark it. Listen, we've all done that. We've all done that at a young age, done middle age, and still. Wait, are you still doing it?
Mel Reed
Doing it and doing it and doing it.
Chad Ochocinco
Well, you can still do it in the car with your bad hips.
Mel Reed
Can I? Boy, I grew up in a car. Hey. Hey. Chevette, right? A Fiero. Yeah, I've been in all that. Yes.
Chad Ochocinco
You know, I. I always. I always thought it was much more exciting. And the. The. The thought of getting caught, the thought of doing something you know, you're not supposed to love.
Mel Reed
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco
Huh?
Mel Reed
In the driveway. In the driveway. Hey, I pull up in the house. I'm gonna go in there and press it up. You ain't gonna press yourself right here. You fresh already. You From a friend. For what?
Chad Ochocinco
Right, right, right.
Mel Reed
Come on with it now.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I like that Was. Some days now I'm a little more cautious because there's really not too many places you can go where you can be comfortable and be able to get away with it, you know, always having to look over your shoulder. And, you know, if you get caught, you're gonna hit that nose. I don't want no part of that.
Mel Reed
I don't want no part of that either, Ocho. But, you know, mall, parking lot seem to work. Gym, parking lot seems to work. Ojo froze. But see, that's why you got that 5%. When you got that 5%, you gotta worry about, man. Nobody care about no Steve. I'm in there. My o. The man called Ocho, the froze doctor. Yeah. You know, like, all she wanted was a quickie, but I think that. Yeah, the car, shower, spark, candle, spark, handcuffs, skip in the car, Spark, Spark. I'm just saying. What y'all pay chat? Yeah, man, ain't nothing like that. Nah, I can't do it. No. I mean, I can't do it in no establishment. Oh, no, no, Ocho. Yeah, yeah, we. But, yeah, I can't. You know, the car. 82. Say the car is a spark. We got you. We see you.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, okay, okay.
Mel Reed
82, say the car. Say in the car is a spark.
Chad Ochocinco
Absolutely, absolutely. Especially, you know, you. You in a rush, you got somewhere to go, you're not supposed to be there, somebody you just met, somebody got no business being with. Man, there's so many different variables that go into that. It makes it.
Mel Reed
I'll be with you 10 years and get it in.
Chad Ochocinco
Huh?
Mel Reed
Y'all need no excitement. I'm excited. I'm about to do it.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, okay.
Mel Reed
Somebody. Somebody just knew.
Chad Ochocinco
You know what I mean? You know what I mean? I'm just throwing out all the variables. That's all I have. Listen, I haven't done that in a while. I haven't done it in a very, very long time, so. But I just know that feeling.
Mel Reed
Hey, it ain't nothing like it, the movie theater. I thought that. Cause, you know, they got the movie theater where the chairs lay all the way back on your.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, we call it. I picked.
Mel Reed
Yeah, I think that's who we got.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Mel Reed
I thought about renting it out. Renting one out, Just me and her.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, it's so funny you said that. Oh, almost woke the baby up. It's so funny you said that. I'm going, no, she right here laying in front of me. When the last time you've been to a drive in theater?
Mel Reed
I ain't been to a drive in Theater in 1990.
Chad Ochocinco
Golly.
Mel Reed
Six. A drive in.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Mel Reed
Ain't nothing like it.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. What? Listen, it was.
Mel Reed
No, I ain't watching no movies. I'm just saying that.
Chad Ochocinco
Listen, I was. I'm thinking about it. I thought about it while I was here, and I. I was talking with very, very good friend of mine. We talk about driving theaters, and the last time you've been to a drive in theater and thought about how that experience would be in 2025. So I looked up, you know, some.
Mel Reed
Y'all got some in Miami.
Chad Ochocinco
They say there's one in Fort Lauderdale. They want to follow that. I think that. I think that would be a great experience, especially if they have old movie they're showing, you know, like Grease, you know, stuff like that.
Mel Reed
I ain't gonna watch. No. I don't give a damn what they're showing. Hey, they can have a doc. Nat Geo could be talking about the great Migration. That ain't got nothing to do with what I got going on.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, you're not gonna watch the show?
Mel Reed
Nope, I am not.
Chad Ochocinco
It's all about the experience. If you happen to go to a drive in theater, I think the people. I wanna. I wonder what the age group is for the people in the chat. Anybody in the chat. Y'all been to driving theater? Do you have driving theaters in your city? Where you from? I'm just. I'm just curious.
Mel Reed
Yep. There's one in Atlanta on Moreland. It's right across from the federal prison. Everybody live in Atlanta on Moreland Avenue. There's one right down. I'm talking about, like, right across from the federal prison on Moreland Avenue. I don't know what it's called, but that was the one I went to. And a matter of fact, she had a truck. She had a truck and let the gate down. You know what I'm saying, Ocho?
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah. Okay.
Mel Reed
People walking by, they ain't got nothing to do with me. But see, here's the thing, Ocho. It was dark and they couldn't see in there. I can see they. They mind their business. I mind. I was handling mine. Right. That's what you do. Y'all will be no, ooh, ooh, ooh. Mind your business. Hold on.
Chad Ochocinco
You was on the flatbed outside.
Mel Reed
No, it was. She had a. A forerunner. Okay, lay down the gate laid out. And it comes in. And the other part comes.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, okay, I got you. I got you. I got you.
Mel Reed
But. Wow, huh? Once upon a time, Mocho. Once upon a time. You know, man, until they be trying. Your boy.
Chad Ochocinco
See, they.
Mel Reed
They look at me, you know. You ain't gonna do hunts. I won't do what?
Chad Ochocinco
Welcome to good days, boy.
Mel Reed
But, you know, back in the day, we wild out there. We wilding now.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Mel Reed
And it wasn't no thank you, though, now, I mean, you know. Hey, front of your homeboys. One on the car, one in the back seat. One in the front seat. One on the trunk.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Mel Reed
Oh, Shay. There was the days, Ocho. Some. Like Stevie said, I wish those days would come back once more. No, that's what it's called. Starlight. But they know what I'm talking about. It's right on. It's on Maryland. It's right across from the federal prison. Once upon a time. Oh, I'm good. Days. Former Heisman Trophy winning coach Eddie George was named the next head coach of Bowling Green. George has agreed to a five year deal. His hiring came two days after George, who spent the past four seasons as head coach of Tennessee State, was one of the three finalists to interview for the position. Congratulations, Eddie.
Chad Ochocinco
Congratulations, El Coty. That's dope. That's live.
Mel Reed
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco
That's live.
Mel Reed
Now take my homeboy Burns. You know, Burns is the Special teams coach with Eddie at Tennessee State. So I was talking to him today, and he just texted me a little while ago. He was driving back from D.C. seeing the fam, and so I hope. I hope Burns go with it.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, that's dope. That's dope.
Mel Reed
A high school track runner got attacked with a baton. Ocho. In the middle of the relay at the Virginia State High School League Class three Indoor State Championship. Kaylin Tucker was on the second leg of the 4 by 2 relay at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Virginia, when she got smacked in the head. Tucker suffered a concussion and a potential skull fracture. The girl's mother said neither the runner nor the coach apologized for the incident.
Chad Ochocinco
I wonder what happened. I wonder what happened. Do you think she impeded her at some point in the race? Maybe bumped into a man?
Mel Reed
That girl went around her. That girl went around her like she was standing still. Ocho, you running with a baton like this? Do you know what you gotta do to do this when you're running?
Chad Ochocinco
That's a lot of energy, too.
Mel Reed
I mean, think about this here.
Chad Ochocinco
That's a lot of.
Mel Reed
That's not a natural. That's not a natural. That's not a natural scribe pattern.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, you're right.
Mel Reed
He did it intentionally. Look, we've all, at some point, been sore losers. I hated to lose. I would throw the ball in the hog pin. I'll kick the ball in the woods, and my grandma's would be looking at the kitchen, and I come in the house. Yeah, yeah. No, you can't. I mean, that's bad. That's bad. I mean, at least apologize. That should have been the first thing the coach did, right? Go to the coach, Go to the young lady, if it's possible, and say, I am so sorry. I am so sorry. We do not teach our kids to do that. Her emotions got the best of her. We are definitely going to have a conversation, a very strong, healthy conversation. I'm gonna bring her parents in, and we're also gonna have a conversation to let them know that this type of behavior will not be tolerated. I understand. Heated the moment things happen, but you gotta have that conversation. I don't know. She's probably, what, 15, 16 years of age? So you have a healthy conversation, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
That's why I think it was probably deeper than that, too, huh?
Mel Reed
There's hair at the relay, Ocho. Look at this. She behind her. You see the girl go wide? The girl going wide, don't y'all. She ain't cut off.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, that might be deeper. Than that. Huh? I'm just being honest. That might be deeper than that because especially after incident like that at a track meet, at a state championship, coaches, you apologize. You apologize. Especially for an incident like that. And the fact that no one came and said anything at all, something ain't right. So this probably goes back before this, before this track meet even happened. And, you know, they got to rectify that situation, though. You can't have that in track and field. You can't?
Mel Reed
No. Hell no.
Chad Ochocinco
At any level.
Mel Reed
Any level. You're absolutely right. And like I said, I think the best thing should have been done was offered an apology at the time. The young lady says, I'm sorry. She offers an apology at the time. But, yeah, that's. I've never seen no situation like that in track, Ocho. I'm just saying that, you know, I've ran track and watched a lot of track meets. I've never seen this. Now, you know that. Hey, Ocho, let me jockey for a position. And, you know, you. You know, hey, but to actually hit somebody in the head with the baton.
Chad Ochocinco
No, I ain't never seen that. No.
Mel Reed
Yeah, but when you run, I'll tell you what, you say, let me get something. Let me get Joy talking about the baton. They have. I said I was looking. I was looking for something to hit him in his head. But I need you running, though. Give me that water ball assignment.
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Julie Stewart-Banks
It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League, and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson.
Nate Thompson
I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say, and not just about hockey.
Julie Stewart-Banks
Believe me, he does. Energy Line with Nate and Jake. JSB is the name of the podcast and it's gonna be, well, it's gonna be quite the ride. We're officially linemates, Nate. We're the Energy Line.
Nate Thompson
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Julie Stewart-Banks
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Mel Reed
All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Hey, cupcake mama. Help traditional women who believe that men should approach them instead of the other way around. Are we doomed in this new age of. In this new dating era? My divorce will be final on May 2. I'm just trying to get prepared.
Chad Ochocinco
Wait.
Mel Reed
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Get that question to me one more time.
Mel Reed
She said traditional women who believe that a man should approach them instead of the other way around. What does it say? 75% of the men today have never asked a woman out face to face. Mainly is through Twitter, IG or a homeboy homegirl hookup.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Mel Reed
Trade information. Hey, what are you doing? Blah, blah, blah, boom.
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, so go ahead me. What does it even matter how things are initiated? Either you like the person or you don't. If you don't, you know, I mean, we over complicate stuff. Worried about who approaches who first. Who text who first. I mean, that's just ain't. I mean, we should be past that by now, man.
Mel Reed
Yeah. Oh, Joe, right now, if she peeking, I'm speaking. You know what I'm saying?
Chad Ochocinco
Don't joke, period.
Mel Reed
But like she said, traditional women. Cupcake. We met her. She was in. As a matter of fact, she was in New Orleans. She came to the show in New Orleans, introduced herself. So thank you for that. Women. She's a traditional woman. Traditional women are used to what the old man, what you do, right? So if you've never had to ask, it feels a little uncomfortable for you, right? For me, it's the other way around. I get uncomfortable if a woman were to have asked me out.
Chad Ochocinco
Well, you. Wait a minute, Unc. You have some women that are aggressive and assertive that actually go for what they want.
Mel Reed
I know, but I old school the Ocho. I grew up asking, hey, right, you know, what are you doing? Can I take you out to eat? Blah, blah, blah. It's.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, listen, I. I like it either way. I mean, listen, whatever floats you both. You know, guys. Some. You know, some women. Honestly, some women don't have a problem with guys approaching them.
Mel Reed
No.
Chad Ochocinco
You know, I mean. No, you don't understand what. I'm not understanding where I'm going with this. Some women don't have a problem with guys approaching them where it's a high volume of men that are always doing it.
Mel Reed
Yes. Yeah. I mean, you just. You just got to be careful now, Ocho, because everything can be misconstrued. You asking somebody out and you made them feel uncomfortable. So guys are going to be a lot more. Going to be a lot more apprehensive.
Chad Ochocinco
Right.
Mel Reed
Than probably they were in the past. But on May 2nd, cupcake, you have to let your hair down. You have to go for what, you know, if you like something.
Chad Ochocinco
Listen, this ain't. This ain't the 80s. If you see something you want, you could speak up.
Mel Reed
King. Go, Vaughan. Go, Van. Dang. Do you at least rub feet? Yeah, my own. Put lotion on them.
Chad Ochocinco
We gotta get. We gotta get you together. I. I continue to tell you over and over, I mean, your ways of dating and the way you operate is outdated. Come on, homie. Come on, man.
Mel Reed
Ain't it pretty? Y'all ain't got a chat? Don't lie. Don't lie. Chat. Look at that. Ain't no corn. Ain't no bunions. Hey, I ain't got no basketball field. No. No corn, no bunions. Yeah, I'm gonna. Y'all see. Yeah. Y'all see that? Ain't no dark in there. No. No. Yeah. So I rub feet. My own. I keep the thing oiled up, too.
Chad Ochocinco
Look at that.
Mel Reed
They got a cut. I jumped on the nail. That's a cut on the bottom. Hey, I jumped in the back of a pick. I jumped up in the back of a truck, Ocho. And I didn't see. See that right there.
Chad Ochocinco
You ain't see the nail?
Mel Reed
I didn't. Went right through. Went right through my shoe. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
I can't. I can't. Listen, I. I still got sand all in my feet.
Mel Reed
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Most. Most athletes do have flat feet. Especially black. Especially black men. We can Google it. Oh, yeah. Don't do that. Don't do that, Chat. Y'all know. Hey, my feet ain't ugly. I get. I get pedicures once a week, pennies and mannies. So y'all ain't fit to bank on me. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy. Hey, fam. You both always on the move. How do you keep from getting exhausted and make sure you get enough rest. Or have you trained your body to function on little sleep? What's the secret to avoid burning out?
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, listen, my body is trained. My body is trained. I get four hours. I'm good. I get four hours of sleep. I'm good. Matter of fact, nightcap tonight, I went on the boat with all the kids in the doctor, obviously. We was out there in that sun all day. They did they swimming. We came back. I set my alarm for 10:45 exactly when we got back, I got exactly four hours of sleep. We doing Q and A, and I'm still locked in. And I'm ready to keep going.
Mel Reed
No, we ain't finna keep going. I'm just saying because working, I found something that I'm passionate about. You don't really get tired when you're passionate about something. Man, give me Teddy Bear.
Chad Ochocinco
What are you doing up? This lady.
Mel Reed
Come here. Come here. Give me Teddy. Look at that. I forgot my pajamas.
Chad Ochocinco
What up, twin?
Mel Reed
See what y'all doing out there? Good. People say my name is Teddy Bear, AKA Teddy. I'm about to be three in August.
Chad Ochocinco
Man, what tight is that, man?
Mel Reed
Man, Titus better have his ass in the bed, man.
Chad Ochocinco
He ain't made no appearance.
Mel Reed
Nah, he ain't make no appearance tonight. But you know what? I don't get a whole lot of sleep. I'm not even when I'm sleep, I'm not a peaceful sleeper. You know what I'm saying, Ocho?
Chad Ochocinco
Right.
Mel Reed
Cause when you have dogs, the least little thing, the least I'm up. No, you got to get out of here before you throw up in the house. I ain't got time to clean that up tonight. Right? Or one bark or any little thing. Yeah. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Wasn't you better than me, boy, I ain't gonna hit nothing at all.
Mel Reed
Yeah. Oh, I hear everything. Deputy Mario, what's the part of South Carolina y'all was just talking about? I like to look it up. No, actually, Sapolo is in near Brunswick. It's right outside McIntosh County. No, that's not. But a lot of the people left there. Sapolo, Defusky, all those islands, Charleston, that Gullah Geechee talk. G. Burke exclusive. Uncan. Ocho, would you say the smarter move for the Steelers is signing a younger Justin Fields over Russell Wilson or Rogers? You get. You get 10 years out of position instead of one to two from the older guy.
Chad Ochocinco
But who say. Who's to say you're going to get 10 years out of that position just because he's younger.
Mel Reed
You make it move within the. The intent to be competitive right now. Right now, you got to look what you got in that division. You got Joe Burrow and you got Lamar Jackson.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah.
Mel Reed
In order for you to really, you. You got to try, you got to unseat them.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Listen, if you don't unseat him, you have to get someone. Well, I'm not going to say comparable because you're not going to find anything comparable right now to Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson. But you got to have at least somebody that can compete. And until you get a quarterback in that room, you will always be behind eight ball.
Mel Reed
Yeah. Tony Brown Jr. Said Ocho's wi Fi background looks like he's streaming at a Thai restaurant.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, listen, I'm. Listen, I. I tried to get the best WI fi I could find out here in Dr. I'm standing a very nice villa. What are these villas out here, man? Everybody. You know, a few. Few people I hadn't seen and came in contact with told me to tell you hello. They watched the show. They love you out here in the doctor and they told me if you ever come, they told me to pass the information on. Anything you need, they got you. They gonna take care of you.
Mel Reed
Okay?
Chad Ochocinco
You can't hear me, huh?
Mel Reed
I got you. Are you gonna take care of me?
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah. They're gonna take care of you.
Mel Reed
Teddy Hart said, at this rate, will Katie's longevity 18 years and not slowing down ever become so overwhelming that he can't. That he can submit himself, cement himself as the second greatest small forward despite not having as many accolades as Berg? The same argument people have about Braun and mj. You do realize Braun is a small forward, too, though. That's. That's what he's up here. That's the position Brian plays small forward. Gonna be tough. Gonna be really tough. Lanny Ray. Hey, guys. I'm going to Italy next month with some family. I've never been to Europe. Got any Europe. European or international travel tips for me.
Chad Ochocinco
Have fun, especially in Italy. I'm always in Naples to go watch my favorite soccer team play in Naples, Italy. The food, you're going to love the food, you're going to love the people. Very nice. I'm trying to think what else. The architecture is unbelievable.
Mel Reed
Yeah. I went to Rome in Florence, many years ago.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Mel Reed
I would like to go to. I like to go to the Amalfi coast. I would like to do Naples. I would like to do, I think the Malfea coast. Milan. Milan is more for, like, Fashion week. I think when it comes to, like, touristy, I think Florence, Venice, the Amalfi coast, something like that, I think I could. I think I need to fit that in. Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah, you got to. I'm going to see matter of fact again. I'm doubling up. I'm going to see Andrea Pichelli in Italy in July. I won't be able to. I won't be able to be that long. So I'm getting in and I'm getting in and getting out. Even though I just saw him down here in Miami, I want to see him again in his own setting, near his home and, And, And. And experience that. So I'm doing that in July before. Before we get back rolling and rocking with football season.
Mel Reed
Guys, I know y'all wondering why Teddy looking like that. Jordan's taking his picture. So he posing for Jordan. J213. Hey, uncan. Ocho. My question for you all. What is your Mount Rushmore for Super Bowls? I feel like 52 gotta be up there. That helmet catch. Oh, that's 42. Was a catch. Was crazy. Be blessed.
Chad Ochocinco
But listen. Yeah, that's for you to answer. I can't even remember none of the Super Bowls, and I don't even know the numbers.
Mel Reed
Oh, yeah, yeah, that was crazy to catch. I mean, stopping an undefeated season. The Patriots beating the Seahawks in the fashion in which they did. The Steelers and the Cowboys always had great matchups. Damn. If you go back and look at the Patriots versus Atlanta. Ooh, 28, three.
Chad Ochocinco
Ocho, that got to be the best one, huh?
Mel Reed
Yeah, two years ago. Basically. Basically a walk off. The Chiefs. Came back on. Came back on Philly. Man, it's hard because I. I mean, a lot of the early Super Bowls I don't really remember, and it's easy to get caught up. Ocho and the Super Bowls, that just happened recently. So now we have recency bias, right? Carlos Green. Where can I buy Shea cognac and get it shipped to my house? Carlos, where do you live? We just got distribution. I'm coming to Chicago. I'm coming to Illinois. I'm coming to Hartford, Connecticut. I'm going to Maryland. I'm going to Charleston, South Carolina. I'm going to be in Atlanta. I'm going to be in Savannah. We just. We just got distribution in Florida. We're in Texas. We're in Nevada, we're in New Mexico, we're in Arizona. We're gonna be in New York, we're gonna be in Wisconsin. So we gotta be close to you in some of those states I just named. Right, but if you can't buy it, we can't. We will ship it to you. Unless there's something that you know, we can't, you know, state. Maybe you're in a state that we. We don't or we can't ship to. But for the most part, I think with the. What does some of the cities that states that we just named. I think we should find one that's close to you, Kel. Say, what's up, Uncle Nocho? I was playing one of my favorite games, NFL street too. I was playing at Sterling and Chad and thought about you guys. Do you guys have a favorite game you were featured in? Hell, I think I was featured in NFL Street. I think that's the only. I don't. I guess I am part of Madden.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Mel Reed
No, but I like the NFL Street. They got me on there with my hat turn backwards. You know, I got. They got me all diesel.
Chad Ochocinco
So I kind of like that. Kind of like that NFL street, the one I was on the COVID of. I'm not sure if it was.
Mel Reed
We coming. We coming to. We coming to Virginia. We're gonna be. We're gonna be in Virginia. We go. We're gonna be in Tennessee. We're about to be in like 25 states. Hopefully by the end of the year. It's 35. So we definitely coming. We're available in Maryland now. I'll be in Maryland Friday. I'll be. I'll be in Maryland Friday on the 14th. The Bell 5000. That was Cowboys. Had two brothers and played Jalen Smith, a linebacker. Yeah, I remember Jalen. And Rod Smith, the running back. Okay. Jordan T. Higgins to the Ravens. Forget the Bengals. Sorry. Ooh.
Chad Ochocinco
Nah.
Mel Reed
Casey Taylor. What's up, Ghost? So y'all know how women, y'all. My car sold for 800k and Ocho. What do you think the highest sports card sale ever is? Also, when is spring live events being announced? PSPM. Quarterback 15 had a car for sale for 4.3 million. If I'm not mistaken, it's either a Mickey Mantle card or a Honus Wagner card. I think it's the TS Honus Wagner card. I think that's the most expensive card. Yeah. Mickey Mantle Card went for 12.6.
Chad Ochocinco
What?
Mel Reed
Huh? Honus Wagner went for 7.6.
Chad Ochocinco
Jesus.
Mel Reed
Cars are expensive. Brady LeBron. Really? But that. Has anybody come forward with that one on one? LeBron.
Chad Ochocinco
Wow.
Mel Reed
Kevin Brooks was. I was going through my football cards and I ran across Jussie Tuggle. Linebacker from the Falcons and Craig Ironhead Hayward, running back from the Saints. Do you have any memories of playing these guys? I played Tuggle. Tuggle was a senior when I was a freshman at Savannah State. He went to Valdosta State. I went to Savannah State. We played in my freshman year. I did play. I do remember playing against. I played against Tuggle in 97 and we played him again, obviously, in the Super Bowl. Ocho. So I'm very familiar with Tuggle, having played against him in college. Iron. Now, I don't think I played against Ironhead I saw at the Pro bowl one year, rest his soul. But now I don't have a whole lot of memories of playing against. Just seeing him at the Pro bowl, you know, laughing and joking, having fun. That concludes this episode of Nightcap, brought to you by Boost Mobile. Visit your nearest Boost mobile store or boostmobile.com to join their nationwide 5G network today. Y'all know me, your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp, the Liberty City legend. The bingo ring of the bingo ring of fame honoree. The promola vacation in the doctor. That's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. And thank you. We know we're a little late. We had some technical difficulties. But thank you for your patience and your continued loyal support.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm back home. You heard me. I'm back home. Tomorrow.
Mel Reed
Okay.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Mel Reed
In the morning, make sure you check out Shayball Portier. We do have it in stock and we just got a distribution in about six or seven other states. So if you cannot find it in a state that we were already in or a state we just got distribution in, order it online, we'll ship it directly to you. Please drag responsibly and please stay safe. Make sure you go follow my social media company, my media company on all of its platforms, Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out, everything is restocked. We just dropped our super bowl shirt and hat bundle. The link is pinned at the top of the chat. Supplies are limited and once they're gone, they're gone. So please make sure you got get yours before they're gone. Thank you guys for joining us. I'm up. He's Ocho. This is Teddy Bear. We'll see you tomorrow night. The volume.
Greg Rosenthal
What's up, everyone? It's Greg Rosenthal and I'm teaming up with the king of spring, Daniel Jeremiah. He requires me to say that that we're going to be bringing you 40s and free agents, the only podcast you'll need this NFL draft season. From DJs mock drafts to my top 101 free agents, we'll have it covered for you with all new episodes every Thursday keeping you up to date as we head to the NFL Draft. Listen to 40s and free agents starting on March 6th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
Julie Stewart-Banks
What's up everyone? Julie Swerbinks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson.
Nate Thompson
We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go.
Julie Stewart-Banks
The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb.
Nate Thompson
Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right?
Julie Stewart-Banks
Exactly. And you'll never know who will drop by to join us.
Nate Thompson
Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe.
Julie Stewart-Banks
Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you you get your podcasts.
Mel Reed
This is Mel Reed, LPGA Tour winner and six time Ladies European Tour winner.
Julie Stewart-Banks
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Mel Reed
And we've got a new podcast, Quiet Please With Mel and Kira.
Julie Stewart-Banks
We are bringing you spicy takes on sports and pop culture. Some interviews with incredible people who have figured out how to make golf their.
Mel Reed
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Julie Stewart-Banks
Hey you guys, I'm Katherine Legg. I'm a racing driver who's literally driven everything with four wheels across the planet. And I've got a new podcast, it's called Throttle Therapy. This season I'm competing in some of the world's most notorious racing events. Tune into my new podcast, Throttle Therapy with Katherine Legg, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.
Podcast Summary: Club Shay Shay – Nightcap, Hour 2
Episode Title: Nightcap - Hour 2: Myles Garrett becomes the highest paid non QB, Davante Adams to the Rams, & Ocho riding horses
Release Date: March 10, 2025
Hosts: Mel Reed and Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Produced By: iHeartPodcasts, The Volume, and Shay Shay Media
In this engaging episode of Club Shay Shay’s Nightcap, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe is joined by Mel Reed and former NFL star Chad Ochocinco (Chad Johnson) to discuss some of the biggest stories in the NFL. The conversation delves into Myles Garrett’s landmark contract as the highest-paid non-quarterback, Davante Adams’ move to the Los Angeles Rams, and a lighter segment about Chad’s experiences with horse riding. The hosts blend insightful analysis with their trademark humor, providing listeners with a comprehensive look at these key topics.
Discussion Highlights:
Mel Reed and Chad Ochocinco dive deep into Myles Garrett’s recent contract extension with the Cleveland Browns, which propels him to the top tier of NFL salaries outside the quarterback position.
Key Insights:
Strategic Value: Chad praises Garrett’s work ethic and importance to the Browns, emphasizing his role in the team’s defensive prowess.
Market Impact: Mel discusses how Garrett’s contract sets a new benchmark for non-QBs, potentially influencing future negotiations across the league.
Notable Quotes:
Chad Ochocinco ([11:05]): "You got to pull for you guys. I like to see us do big things."
Mel Reed ([15:14]): "If you did something with Trey Hendrickson early, you ain't got to worry about it."
Chad Ochocinco ([20:59]): "Everybody's not going to be fortunate enough to win a championship."
Discussion Highlights:
The conversation shifts to Davante Adams’ significant move from the Green Bay Packers to the Los Angeles Rams, highlighting the strategic implications for both teams.
Contract Details:
Impact on the Rams:
Key Insights:
Comparative Analysis: Chad compares Adams to other elite receivers, noting his surgical precision and ability to create separation.
Team Strategy: Mel highlights how the Rams can optimize Adams’ usage offensively, ensuring he remains a focal point in their passing game.
Notable Quotes:
Chad Ochocinco ([35:57]): "He can run the same exact routes. He can get open."
Mel Reed ([35:58]): "He can put the football in places that's going to give you a chance to run."
Chad Ochocinco ([36:18]): "He can do so much when he got the ball in his hands."
Discussion Highlights:
Shifting gears to a lighter topic, Chad Ochocinco shares his passion for horse riding, providing a humorous and heartfelt look into his personal life outside the NFL.
Personal Experiences:
Humorous Banter:
Key Insights:
Work-Life Balance: Chad emphasizes the importance of pursuing personal interests and hobbies to maintain a healthy balance outside of professional sports.
Family Involvement: The conversation showcases Chad’s dedication to involving his family in his passions, fostering strong bonds through shared activities.
Notable Quotes:
Chad Ochocinco ([46:37]): "I rode a bull. I can ride horses, man."
Mel Reed ([50:11]): "If you got horses, you got bulls or something, you know, I can partake in."
Chad Ochocinco ([86:13]): "My body is trained. I get four hours of sleep. I'm good."
Discussion Highlights:
Mel and Chad delve into the significance of the cornerback position in the NFL, comparing it to other positions in terms of salary and impact.
Market Dynamics:
Player Impact:
Key Insights:
Position Value: Mel argues that cornerbacks have a unique and challenging role, often requiring them to backpedal and react quickly to dynamic plays.
Salary Disparities: The hosts explore the reasons behind salary disparities, including market demand and the perceived impact of different positions on game outcomes.
Notable Quotes:
Mel Reed ([28:06]): "Everybody shouldn't win a champion. If every great player won a championship, what's the significance of winning a championship then."
Chad Ochocinco ([29:04]): "He bought a totally different dynamic to the position."
Mel Reed ([30:04]): "So you're asking a man to say, hey, you got Tyreek. So I want you to backpedal for about five to six yards and then I need you to turn and run with him."
Throughout the episode, Mel and Chad incorporate various entertaining segments that add depth and humor to the discussion:
Q&A Sessions: They engage with listener questions, offering advice on topics ranging from sports strategies to personal life dilemmas.
Anecdotes and Personal Stories: Both hosts share personal stories and humorous incidents, providing listeners with a glimpse into their lives beyond football.
Guest Mentions: Brief mentions of other podcasts and upcoming events, though these are kept minimal to maintain focus on the main topics.
Notable Quotes:
Chad Ochocinco ([70:22]): "I rode a bull. I can ride horses, man."
Mel Reed ([84:56]): "I rubbed feet. My own. Put lotion on them."
Chad Ochocinco ([86:13]): "My body is trained. I get four hours of sleep. I'm good."
In this episode of Club Shay Shay’s Nightcap, Mel Reed and Chad Ochocinco offer a dynamic blend of insightful NFL analysis and personal anecdotes. From landmark contracts to personal hobbies, the hosts provide listeners with a well-rounded and entertaining discussion, all while maintaining their signature humor and candidness. Whether you're a dedicated NFL fan or just tuning in for the engaging conversation, this episode delivers valuable perspectives on some of the league's most compelling stories.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
Chad Ochocinco ([10:24]): "Everybody's not going to be fortunate enough to win a championship."
Mel Reed ([15:14]): "If you did something with Trey Hendrickson early, you ain't got to worry about it."
Chad Ochocinco ([20:59]): "I'm happy for all these dudes ... getting that bag like that."
Mel Reed ([28:06]): "Everybody shouldn't win a champion. If every great player won a championship, what's the significance?"
Chad Ochocinco ([35:57]): "He can run the same exact routes. He can get open."
Mel Reed ([35:58]): "He can put the football in places that's going to give you a chance to run."
Chad Ochocinco ([36:18]): "He can do so much when he got the ball in his hands."
Mel Reed ([50:11]): "If you got horses, you got bulls or something, you know, I can partake in."
Chad Ochocinco ([86:13]): "My body is trained. I get four hours of sleep. I'm good."
Mel Reed ([28:06]): "Everybody shouldn't win a champion. If every great player won a championship, what's the significance?"
Disclaimer: This summary is based on the provided transcript and aims to encapsulate the key discussions and highlights of the podcast episode. For a complete listening experience, please tune into the episode on your preferred podcast platform.