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Nightcap Hour 2: NFC CHAMP Julian Love joins NIGHTCAP + Dre Greenlaw’s TOUGH TRANSITION from 49ERS to BRONCOS + Kyler Murray’s TRADE VALUE diminished? + Coach Prime LAYS DOWN the LAW
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Rob Gronkowski
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay, we got a very special guest joining us. We got Pro bowl safety Julian Love going to his first Super Bowl. J. Love, has it sunk in that you're going to the Super Bowl?
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Julian Love
How y' all doing?
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Shannon Sharpe
We're doing great, bro.
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Julian Love
Yeah, I mean, it's a little surreal for sure. You know, the motions were flowing last night, folks were celebrating. But yeah, it's sunk in for sure.
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Shannon Sharpe
So you're getting, as time is winding down, you're like, okay, we got a four point lead. Just nothing cheap, nothing deep. Keep everything in front of us. Keep them inbound. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, clock. Tick, tick, tick, tick it away. So when, when, when Puka caught that ball, you like, damn, we let him out of bounds. But you saw the rep and you saw the official kept doing this. You're like, it's over. So the first thing that goes through your mind, you know, like, okay, this game is over. What goes through your mind immediately, I.
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Julian Love
Threw my helmet somewhere trying to throw blow kisses to the family up in the suite, celebrate with the fans. They were going crazy. But yeah, I mean, our offensive, their job in that four minute drill, you know, they burned their timeouts, so they had a whole field to go. 25 seconds left, no timeouts. I mean, that's a challenge. And they completed two balls, but they were both in bounds. And so, I mean, that's tough sledding for a team that needed more than a field goal in that situation. So, yeah, we felt good.
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Shannon Sharpe
So now it's a situation. You played this team, they've kind of had your guys as number, but you go back out there and you do a job on them the final game of the season, you know, there's a, There's a probably 80% chance that you're probably gonna have to see this team again. A division opponent that we've already seen twice, we see them twice a year, you know, there's probably a better than 80% chance in order for us to reach our final destination, we're probably going to have to go through this damn team again. Damn it, man.
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Julian Love
We looked at it, we looked across the playoff bracket and we just felt good, for real. I mean, NFC west this year was just a division of demons for, you know, the Niners somehow were finding a way to win games despite losing all their star guys. And the Rams were just that. The offense, man, they, they're so high powered. Stafford, McVeigh, that's just a combo that no one wanted to see, for real. But we knew situationally on defense, that's all we had to do. I think, I can't remember the exact number, but they got one or two third down conversions. So we're sharp there. We were sharp on fourth down. We were sharp in the red zone at the end of the game and sharp end of the half, two minutes, everything like that was critical. We stepped up for some of the other stuff. Yeah, we gotta, we gotta get back to the drawing board.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, most definitely. Obviously, I want to say congratulations, jl on all your accomplishments, what you guys have achieved defensively collectively and not only as a defense, but as a team as well, and going to the Super Bowl. But I want to ask you, being nominated for the Walter Payton man of the Year, what does that mean to you, boss man?
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Julian Love
That's special. You know, I'm a Chicago kid and so Walter Payton, that's like a. He's a superhero. That's how my pops raised me. That's how my grandparents raised me. That's what it is. You know, Walter Payton was a superhero. And so to be nominated, you know, it was definitely emotional. Everybody back home was going crazy because they just know what it means. And to me, I mean, I was just. I don't know, to be myself for real. You know, I, I do a lot with, with expected or postpartum mothers, a lot of kids. Obviously, I have my youth camp for free. I don't, I don't like charging kids. I know my parents are grinding paying that entrance fee for these camps and all these things. And, you know, they did it thankfully, but I know it's not easy. And so just everything we. It was cool to be nominated, but, yeah, it doesn't stop.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You know, that's. That's dope. That's dope.
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Shannon Sharpe
The team that you're going against. This look, this is a rematch with Super Bowl 49. And, and I, I, I think, I think there's a 99.9999 chance. If y' all get the ball on the one yard line, y' all gonna hand that damn ball off to King of Walker in a similar situation because. Or you guys gonna lose y' all damn mind on Clint. And I know Clint very well. I played with his father. But has it like, okay, have you given yourself an opportunity? Have you watched any film on the, on the Patriots and kind of what they like to do offensively, or you just taking it in? Okay, we're gonna, we'll. We'll start getting to them on Wednesday. We got tomorrow off. You probably came in today. Okay, we're gonna leave Saturday. We gonna leave Sunday to head down to San Francisco. We'll leave Monday. Get your ticket situation, the hotel. This is what you got. The plane situation. When I, When I went J Love, I, like I was. My family was leaving from where they were from, and so I had seats on the plane that I ended up giving to my best friend. Like, hey, your family is here. They can take those seats. That's kind of the planning that y' all had today. You brought everybody in. You explained when you're leaving, the hotel situation, the ticket situation. Look, let's get all that out the way because once, once we get started on Wednesday, we don't need any distractions.
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Julian Love
You hit it exactly on the head. That was the whole day today. Logistics. My head's in a blender. You know, the team went you know, we celebrated last night, so we're trying to figure it out this morning. And yeah, we had some uncomfortable conversations this morning trying to tell the family, all right, this is a situation. You know, it's a game. I got to win a game in two weeks. This ain't a family vacation in San Fran. And so, yeah, a lot of that today we treated like a Monday. I mean, you heard our head coach talk. McDonald, he's very much direct. He's very, you know, straight line. And he just. He treated today like a normal Monday. We celebrated, watched the good plays, did all the things. Tomorrow's an off day, and Wednesday we'll get after. And so we just follow the same method. We have a little more time. I haven't watched them, to be honest, too much. Just our paths just didn't cross too much. You know, I'm watching film on other teams and so, yeah, we're excited to just take a dive. For sure.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, before. Before you came to the Seahawks, I think if I'm not mistaken, my year served me correct, 20, 23. What was the selling point? What was the selling point, based on other places you could have gone, what made Seattle the destination for you?
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Julian Love
Yeah, honestly, it was Pete Carroll. This the straight up and down. You know, I had three head coaches in four years in New York when I was with the Giants. Tough slut. No. You know, we were figuring it out, but, you know, my last year in New York was like my first time as a start, full time starter. I played a lot before that, but first time as a full time starter. And so I was looking to grow. You know, some people in the Giants building just didn't see that. And, you know, I was 24 at the time, so I'm like, man, I'm young. You know, I left school early, you know, back when people did that. And yeah, it was P. Carol, he just said, listen, we have two high pay safeties. We have mall, as we all know, Andre Diggs, who my mentors, who are my guys, they said, but, you know, mall's kind of dealing with some injury stuff. We need you to come in. And we just have. We have a clear vision for how we want to play you and deploy you into everything. And I just trusted it. He, Pete Carroll sold me. And so that year, I mean, I was the third safety for real. And I made the Pro Bowl. You know, we. I accomplished a lot of things. I earned a lot of what I have now because I just. I just took a leap of faith. For real.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Have you. Have you Always played safety growing up. Most of the time, you know, we play other positions, and as we get. As we got older, we were fixated on one thing, especially when it was time to get to the next level.
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Shannon Sharpe
You.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You've always been a safety all your life, or you. You played other things?
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Julian Love
No. You know, when you're a kid, man, you just play whatever. Who could score the most points? Lily, you're a running back, of course. High school running back, receiver, return kicks, did all things. Played kind of linebacker in safety. Because in high school, corner. I mean, nobody's really guarding people. For real in high school. So this is where I can ever tackle. And in college at Notre Dame, I played corner.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay.
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Julian Love
And so I. I was kind of in the draft as a tweener. For real. You know, people were like, ah, is he a nickel? Is he a corner that, you know, that just tackles? Well, size, speed, all that was kind of being analyzed. And thankfully, a mentor is like, listen, get some reps at free safety. I think, you know your skill set. You can move, you can tackle, you do other things, and I think it'll serve you well. And so, yeah, I randomly have starts at corner, nickel, free, strong. All in the least in my first few years. And so, yeah, I bounced around a little bit.
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Shannon Sharpe
J. Love you. Said something very important that you. That you realize you. You relayed to your family that this is not a vacation, because the family, you gotta probably. Guys gotta go get down there Sunday or Monday. The family's gonna come in on Thursday. And the way I approached it, I went and saw my family when they got in. I saw the kids. We hung out. And then I didn't see the kids again until after the game. Because I'm there to win a game. I'm not there to go sightseeing. I'm not there because the first super bowl we had was in Sea World. So, you know, the kids are all excited about SeaWorld. We go to SeaWorld. SeaWorld. See all the diploma. Yes. That was my mom, my sister, my girlfriend at the time. That was their job. Y' all handle the kids. Don't call me for nothing unless it's an absolute emergency. And then I'm gonna meet you guys at wherever you need to be at. But other than that, you have to relay that because they like, oh, man, that game ain't till Sunday. You. They. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The game is one. People don't realize games are one. Monday through Friday, you go out there on the field, that ain't nothing. You win Games on Monday through Friday, that's when you want to get. So I'll ask you this. Are you guys installing because. And then have everything as a dress rehearsal, or are you waiting till you actually get to San Fran? Because before you do installation.
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Julian Love
No, no, we're getting after it. We're starting up. I think. I think actually we have an extra day off. I think we have a Wednesday off. And we're getting. We're treating Thursday like it's a Wednesday of the week.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
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Julian Love
Mike might have us in full pads, knowing him, so we might just be.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Full pads.
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Julian Love
Yeah, man, we're in full pads like a week or two ago. Got to get that callus. Get that monkey off your back. We just. But that's been the whole season, for real. Like, we're, you know, to us on the inside, we're like a team of nobodies, you know, to most people. Not a lot of star power, you know, a lot of people say. And we just approach every day the same, you know. So, yeah, we're going to get after, you know, our Wednesday the same way we always do. Have our meetings, you know, get in at, you know, however early you're getting in and leaving at 5:30 or so. Yeah, we gotta lock in. I mean, I told my family, listen, I can see you exactly right Thursday, we have NFL honor. So maybe I could see you Thursday. But then my normal Friday, I like to get in. I'm already in that mode. Friday for a game. I'll do disservice to you guys if I'm trying to play host because I'm going to be quiet and kind of in that mode. And so, yeah, I think they know what time it is for.
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Shannon Sharpe
Are you married? Did you have a family?
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Julian Love
Yeah. Married. I started dating my wife when I was 16 years old.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, my goodness, congrats.
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Julian Love
Yeah, I got lucky. It's hard. It's hard nowadays for these young guys.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Julian Love
And so I got lucky. So, Mary, we've been married for a few years now. Have one son. Yeah. Two years old. Then we have another one due in March.
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Shannon Sharpe
Congratulations, man. Boy.
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Julian Love
Yeah, thank you. Thank you.
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Shannon Sharpe
But that's the thing. You got a wife. Hey, you gotta handle this. You gotta handle it because, hey, I don't know if and when I'll ever get back to this situation. So I want to seize this moment. Mom, dad, hey, wife. Got all y' all set up. Y' all don't need me for anything. Let me handle this game. When we win this game, wherever y' all want to go. I got you.
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Julian Love
Yep, exactly right. We'll have time. We. You know, we got an offseason. We can do all that. We live. I live five minutes with my folks, so. Back in. Back in Chicago, and so.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, really?
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Julian Love
That's dope. Yeah, we'll have that time. So. Yeah, wife's playing mediator, manager. You know, all the things she's putting overtime.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, once. Once all this is over, once the dust clears and y' all win the super bowl, you hoist that trophy, everything settles in. What do you like to do outside of the game of football? You know, any hobbies you might have. I mean, you. You cook, read books. I mean, whatever it may be. You have anything that you. You. You're excited to do once everything settles down.
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Julian Love
Man, I'm a. I'm a homebody for real. You know, I get back to Chicago, I train, I hang out with the family. You know, I. I wake up, I enjoy playing, you know, with my son. Will be the, you know, two boys this off season. So I chill. I do like to golf. I'm average, but I enjoy it. Just kind of getting out, you know, have a few drinks with guys, you know, play some music. I'm more of that type of golfer.
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Shannon Sharpe
You got too much muscle, J. Love. You got to lose some of that muscle to be good at golf. You got to be. You got to be free through the shoulders.
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Julian Love
Yeah. I don't want to see a video of you swinging a golf club. I might not look right. Look like LeBron.
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Shannon Sharpe
A few weeks ago, Greg Bell tweeted Julia Love said he and former Giants teammate Leonard Williams hugged in the locker room post game at the 49ers and said, Eat. To each other. Seahawks winning the division, making the playoffs as top C. We made it. GM John Snyder walked by and said, you're welcome.
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Julian Love
Yeah, man.
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Shannon Sharpe
When you look at you, you spoke about the journey that you went on. You go to the Giants, and they don't really give you the opportunity that you think you deserve. And you have to take a leap of faith. You go to a team that got two starting safeties, and both have gone to the Pro bowl, have been perennial all Pros, and you say, what? That's the perfect spot for me. I'm going to Seattle to play behind two perennial Pro bowl players. Yes. I can't think of a better place for Jay Love to go. This is. This is home. When you told your wife that you were signing with Seattle and she said, hold on, honey. Jamal Landon, Quandra Diggs. Are you crazy? Chicago don't want you. There's not another team that need a safety. So this is the only team. First of all, you pulling me way.
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Julian Love
Yeah, that's part right there. Y.
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay. You pulling me way. That's a six hour flight, baby.
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Julian Love
Yeah. She looked at the map. She like, oh, man. Four flights out from Chicago. Yeah. It's going to at least be five hours. Yeah, it was. It was a leap of faith for real. But at that point, just like I'm sure you guys did, I mean, there's no higher belief in me than me. I felt like I was playing my best ball and I was climbing. I was young, I was hungry. And so, you know, the value wasn't there for some people with the Giants.
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Julian Love
I'm going to go make a shake somewhere else. And so it was an element of betting on myself and yeah, with that conversation with Leo in the locker room. Leonard Williams, man, Big Cat, I play. This is my seventh season. I played every season with Big Cat. He's the only team I've had on two different teams. My first year in New York, he got traded from the jets to the Giants. We played four years together my first year. Then I signed as a free agent to Seattle and he gets traded to Seattle that year. And like, we're best friends. And so that tweet or that quote's a little wrong. I said, we made it out.
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Shannon Sharpe
You made it out.
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Julian Love
We made it out. We found a way, man. We're around some. Some like minded people, some. Some dogs. Some people who are pretty selfless. And yeah, thankfully that GM made that call because, yeah, it's, it's.
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Paramount Plus Announcer
It's.
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Julian Love
It's night and day.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I mean, listen, you, you, you be. You be careful. I mean, obviously they gave you the opportunity. You never want to say anything, anything bad about them. I like, I like the way you've been very cautious about that. But my grandma always told me, you know, close, don't get fed. So I'm gonna go ahead and be the one to ask. Can I get a ticket to the Super Bowl?
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Julian Love
No, I saw.
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Shannon Sharpe
That. Way to keep that thing a stack.
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Julian Love
Hey, I saw what they're trying to charge me. People who are in the game. Yeah, I was shook.
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Shannon Sharpe
I remember the tickets used to be. I think. I think the max ticket might have been like $1,200 when I played.
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Julian Love
Hey.
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Shannon Sharpe
But I think now they're probably 3, 4, 5,000.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
He didn't even hesitate. He said no, fast as hell.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hey, do you still get 13 with two comps?
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Julian Love
Yeah. Can you get more yeah, it's, I think it is like 13, two comps. Okay, maybe, maybe, maybe 14 or two comps. So you can, you can, you get allocated them. But yeah, they said we don't get that off you. Yeah, we.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, they. Oh, they're gonna. Oh, oh, a lot of that. Oh, the tickets. Oh, you playing 50, 60, 70, $80,000 for those seats.
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Julian Love
Yeah, yeah, they told, they told us today, you know, usually have like a lap infant and we have a two year old. Whatever. They said everybody, everybody's six weeks old with a baby. Baby needs, they need a ticket to this game.
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Shannon Sharpe
Baby, you better be glad they in charge of your wife. She pregnant. So that's still two seats.
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Julian Love
You know, charging me one and a half.
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Shannon Sharpe
Crazy. But the year before guys don't know this, this between us, used to get up to 30 tickets for the Super Bowl. Dang.
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Julian Love
Yeah, 30 decent ratios.
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Shannon Sharpe
I tell, I tell you off camera, what, what, what changed that? But we don't, we don't want to, we don't want to put family business in the street, man. Congrats. Hey, before you go, we're gonna get you out on this. What's it like every day to see JSN and to have to deal with him on a regular basis? Cause you see him every day and you kind of know his movements. He does a great job of staying level because a lot of times when guys, when guys go to stop, they'll drop down. But if you watch him, he kind of like, he's like just floating on air. So everything looks the same. He'll run out, it looks the same. He'll run in, it looks the same. He run a dig, it looks the same. He runs the seam, he runs the go. Everything looks the same. So it's really hard to get a bead on what he's actually doing. So what's it like watching him every single day?
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Julian Love
No, he's special. Y' all got to get out and see him like in person, go to work. He's special. Like you said, everything's the same. Those are the toughest receivers. You know, you can be fluid in a route and be able to break on every step and you're, you're moving at full speed. There's, there's, there's, you know, there's three to five of them of them in the league pretty much. He's one of them. So natural then out of the route. Natural pass catcher. You saw him with the one handed grab. Yeah, just natural. I think a lot of his teammates, you know, back in College, you know, back in his Ohio State days, they said the same thing. Like, man, he's special. And he's. He's just a guy, man. He's chill, you know, he's cool. You know, he's, you know, young, single dude, enjoying himself. But when it comes to work, you know, he's serious. We know he's for real. He needs to get more attention. Obviously, he's. He's getting a little this year, but he's.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Listen, I got. I got a small sample size of him. Obviously, seeing what he did Ohio State, seeing what he did in the Rose Bowl. I hold a wide receiver workshop for all the NFL receivers. He was one of the receivers that came out with Jamar Chase and T. Higgins and Cortland Sutton, Judy. And being able to see him now up close and personal, and to see his footwork and. And his ability to start and stop and transition and get in and out of breaks, I was like, what the second? The hell?
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Julian Love
Top tier.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
So then. So when I see what he does this season on. On. On. On film and on camera, I'm like, okay, now it makes sense why they let DK go. Okay, now it makes sense why they let Tyler Locket go. So I'm. I'm like, dog. Unbelievable.
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Shannon Sharpe
He did.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Unbelievable. He's. He's nice. He's nice.
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Julian Love
Now to have his production with the style offense we play, you know, it's run heavy. I think we run it at the highest clip in the league. And to do it on the West Coast.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you absolutely gonna run it.
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Julian Love
Yeah. Yeah. He. To get that production out of him is crazy.
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Shannon Sharpe
But when you play action off that run and when Kenneth Walker III is running it like he's running it, and when you play. Play action off of it, that's why you got guys running hand free. JSN is still an excellent route runner, but he's even more running because those safety, like, damn, we got to get down to the box. We got to stop this, because we can't let this guy get ahead of steam. But he's. He's special, even like Ocho was talking about in that Rose Bowl. And you watching him, you like, is this team that bad or this dude that good? Because, you know, you don't see. Look, we see receivers get 175, 200, but to see a guy go over 300 yards receiving. So I'm asking myself, is this man really this good or they that bad at defense? And come to find out, no, he. He's that good.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
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Julian Love
Had no answers. Had no answers for him, man.
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, congratulations, man. Thank you for coming on and joining us tonight and showing, sharing with us a little highlight from the game and what it means to you and your family to go Congratulations on, on the newborn that's about to happen in March. Wish you best of luck. Everybody's healthy and happy and come back after the, after the game. You guys take care of what you're supposed to take care of.
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Julian Love
Go back.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Don't forget my ticket.
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Julian Love
Of course. Go to will call you might be waiting a little bit, but just, you know, it'll be there.
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Shannon Sharpe
Appreciate it. J Love, congratulations. Stay healthy, bro.
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Julian Love
Thank y' all appreciate y' all appreciate your man.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hey. Oh, that joke told you quick. Cost too much. Oo. I ain't got nothing.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I already already know. I know. I already know what it's gonna look like. You know, you get those tickets and sometimes you know what your check's supposed to be and they take that money out that check, it ain't gonna be pretty, pretty.
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Shannon Sharpe
I know what it's gonna be, bro. I thought your auntie put you up.
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Rob Gronkowski
This is Rob Gronkowski and Julian Edelman from Dudes on Dudes with Gronk and Jewels. Rob, I've never asked, are you a dips guy?
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Shannon Sharpe
Like the workout?
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Rob Gronkowski
You can't tell. No, I mean for your chips. Oh, I knew that. Yeah, of course. You got to try this new Daisy's French onion dip. Goes great on Sundays. Daisy like the sour cream brand? Yep. That's how you know it's going to be fire. I use their sour cream all the time. Goes perfect with my taco Tuesday dinner. Oh, Jules the chef. I love it. Yep, and now I've added the daisies French onion dip to my Sunday spread. They make it with all natural herbs and spices. I like the sound of that. Everyone knows you need a good dip for game day. Personally, I like to dip everything I can. Veggies, crackers, chips. Heck, I might even dip a buffalo wing in there. That reminds me, they also have Daisy's ranch dip. Now you're speaking my language. Sundays on the couch just got even better. Yup, seems like a no brainer on game day. So get out there and give the French onion dip a try. You won't regret it.
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- [27:16]
Shannon Sharpe
Linebacker Dre Greenlaw said transitioning from San Francisco to Denver was very tough because how much more physical, demanding Sean Payton coaching style was. He told reporter. Sean is old school. He's going to do six days on, one day off. He's got his way of doing things. You're going to be practicing three hours on Wednesday, three hours on Fridays. Shanahan is the complete opposite. He wants you fresh.
- [27:39]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Well hold on, I thought the CBA didn't allow them to be out be out on the field that that, that long.
- [27:45]
Shannon Sharpe
Don't start. Yeah, I I mean the 49ers have never won a game on the Kyle Shanahan when trailing by eight points or more in the fourth quarter since 2017. Kansas City leads the NFL with seven wins in 30 such situation with a comeback rate of 23.3. San Francisco is dead last. When? Trailing by eight points in the fourth quarter, they're 0 and 51.
- [28:08]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Damn. Yeah.
- [28:16]
Shannon Sharpe
Wow. I can.
- [28:17]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I can believe what he's saying, too, about Sean Payton and obviously his.
- [28:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, Sean is old school. He's old school.
- [28:24]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm sure he's had to adjust a little bit and adapt to the new CBA and. And the rules and the way players wear pads and the way. The way they wear shells, but. He gonna get the most out of you. He gonna get the most out of you. And that's probably the reason for their success.
- [28:40]
Shannon Sharpe
Literally and figuratively.
- [28:41]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That's probably the reason for their success. Okay, Chat. Uncle's gone. How y' all doing today? Cool. Okay. Bet I'm doing good, too. That's pretty much it. Y' all like my jersey? Flamingo? No. Brazilian team? No. Cool. What? Ungo. Hey, Chat, y' all want to hear a joke? Chat, Y' all want to hear a joke? Can they even hear me? Ash, can you hear me? Okay, Should I save my joke to un. Get back? Hey, Chat, would you call a wandering nun like a nun that's wandering around? What do you call a wandering nun? Anybody? Nobody knows? A wandering nun is called a Roman Catholic.
- [30:18]
Shannon Sharpe
I heard it. Back to our normal schedule programming. It is a transition Ocho, if. I've always felt it's easy to go from difficult to easy, as opposed to easy to difficult. That's why they say you could always lighten up on your kids, but it's harder for you to be light and then try to toughen up on your kids. And Dre was. Look, I know this west coast system and. And. And. And know how it operates. And that's how Mike was. Mike says, I want you fresh. I don't want to waste all this effort on the practice field. I don't want to leave this. You leave your best material on the cutting room floor. Nah, I'm saving this for Sunday. I want you guys fresh. I want you guys to get off your feet. I want you guys to start mentally preparing and getting ready for this game, and I want you fast. Mike didn't beat the Ocho we had on pads. We put on pass Thursday, so I wore pads. Basically. 12 plays in my entire. 12 plays. 12 plays. Practice a week when I was Mike Shanahan. Now, once we got to probably about week 10, we were completely out of pass. Yeah.
- [31:42]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. Keep. Keep the body fresh. And obviously, obviously, everyone knows keep everybody upright, don't tackle nobody, and stuff like that. I. I remember even the days when we would have pads on I got to a point where I would just wear my shells. I would wear my shells over. I mean, obviously I went with my pads, and everybody knew they weren't gonna hit me anyway. I just. I just didn't want to put no pads on until it was time to play ball on Sunday.
- [32:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Right. I mean, John would wear heads because he needed. Yeah, he used to throw him with those pads on, but. Nah, we warm up in them. Once we got the. We did a little team stuff. Then once we got the 907, hey, I went down there. We. I would run, you know, a couple of rounds, one on one. We had the pads. But that's. But that's how. That's how Mike was. And it was easy for me to adopt a mic system because I had Coach Reeves. Coach Reeves was really, really old school. He learned under coach Tom Landry. Coach Tom Landry. You had on pads on Friday. Whoa. So shells were shoulder path Friday.
- [32:51]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You had on pads on fast Friday.
- [32:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. Goodness, yes. Shells were shoulder pads and shorts. Not the shells that you're talking about. Like those little. Yeah, the little spider pans that you. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's not what shells were. Shells were shoulder pads and shorts. Other than that, you had on everything and Dan didn't allow you to wear. You had to wear your full uniform. You had on thigh pads, knee pads. Okay, you had all that.
- [33:23]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, that's better check too.
- [33:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, absolutely. Hey, had you out there looking like that, man.
- [33:32]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That's exactly.
- [33:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. He had all the pads on his arms, and they had a bird cage face mask. You come out there, that's how Coach Reeves have you.
- [33:41]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And you try to come out there with no thigh pads, no knee pads. You don't have your hip pads in. You're going back inside. He had you wearing everything like you were the damn. The. The model in the equipment room on how to dress properly.
- [33:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, that's what it was that those were what shells were shells where you actually. Shoulder pads and you got to have on show, you know, back then, don't you? They don't have them now. You remember those grays, those cotton gray shorts? You have probably had them in college. Okay, we had the cotton gray before. We had the, The. The. The. The Nike tech, the high stuff. They were all cotton, you know, Cotton. Boy, after a while, you can't get that stench out of cotton, man.
- [34:33]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
They get distinct.
- [34:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Huh? What? Man, Look, I don't think that's. And I know people gonna say, you know, he's making Excuses. I don't believe that's the reason why they lost. He's just speaking in general. He had to, he had to train himself. He had to learn that this is what's expected. 3. Look, I, I've been there. Not, not during the season. Not during the season. Training camp. We had a couple. We had some three hour practices. Not during the season. I think the longest practice we had, we've normally like Thursday was our longest practice. We out there two hours. Normally on a Wednesday, probably out there like an hour 45. Friday, if it's really good, you get to 115. You're not going over 130. Because I'm trying to get to those wings, you know, probably, you know, have wings and pizza. Yeah, yeah, wings of pizza. So, you know, I got four wings, a biscuit and I have pizza too. I gotta, you know, have pizza. Have my own pizza. My stuff, have my name written on it. Because everybody be done. Pick through everything, man. You know how everybody come in there and people don't be washing their hands. They come in there straight with the gloves. They got the gloves. They don't talk past it. They'll hit somebody. Nah, hell you laughing, don't you? I said, nah, I'm done with this. I'm done. So they started. I was like, look, I told Mike, I said, mike, all I want is four wings and two biscuits and a pizza. I want pizza. I want hamburger. Say. I say, mike, these jokes don't be washing their hands. They come from. They come straight. They come straight out the feel. Don't nobody take their gloves off. They still got tape on their fingers. And they go outside. I'm done with that mic. He's like, all right, 84. So they have, you know, 30, 40 boxes to have like seven, eight boxes of 21 pieces. And then they have wings and they have drumsticks and they have. I don't know why I keep calling them short thighs. So they have that and then they have, you know, like seven, eight boxes of biscuits. They have, you know, bags and bags of honey and ketchups and stuff like that. But I was like, nah, I'm good, I'm good. I said, so I'll get my pizza, my chicken. I go eat. You know, sometimes me and Burns, you know, we. Because, you know, that's the time to cut a food. Oh yeah, we know how we. What you. You know how we do.
- [37:04]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Absolutely, absolutely.
- [37:09]
Shannon Sharpe
But, but I mean, that just goes to show you the greatness of Mahomes that he's won seven of those 30 games, the Vikings are eight for 55. The packers are selling for 50. The Bengals are two for 61.
- [37:27]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That. That was. That wasn't necessary.
- [37:30]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm just saying.
- [37:31]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm trying to stand. I know you're reading off. I'm just saying that wasn't necessary.
- [37:36]
Shannon Sharpe
The Broncos we 7 or 66.
- [37:37]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, that ain't.
- [37:38]
Shannon Sharpe
What are the Ravens? The Ravens are 3 for 37. My team's up there, so both my teams in the top 10. So I'm cool.
- [37:49]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Both your teams. Oh, now they both your team.
- [37:52]
Shannon Sharpe
Now, don't do that. I'm just saying.
- [37:55]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm just saying, you.
- [37:56]
Shannon Sharpe
You.
- [37:56]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You won two. You one, two show about your team the other night, but now they both your team. Okay.
- [38:01]
Shannon Sharpe
What you mean I was. Yeah, listen, I'm a Bronco fan. I'm a Raven fan.
- [38:06]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure you're a Ravens fan. I'm sure you're a Bronco fan. I'm just saying your faith in your Broncos, it wasn't sitting too high. You weren't too boisterous. You weren't screaming to the mountaintops about your goddamn Broncos before that game because.
- [38:18]
Shannon Sharpe
What was I screaming about?
- [38:19]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You didn't have any faith. Because the quarterback who was starting.
- [38:22]
Shannon Sharpe
I didn't.
- [38:23]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay.
- [38:24]
Shannon Sharpe
That's why I wasn't. That's why I wasn't as upset. Had I been. Had. I would have been. Had both started. If Bo had played and we lost. Yeah. I'd have been disappointed. Extremely disappointed. But with stealing. I know what he is. Everybody knew what he was. I think Bronco country was trying to hold out fate that he could. He could do it, but they didn't have. Man, stop.
- [38:50]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Well, yeah. And they think everybody probably in Cancun by now, huh?
- [38:58]
Shannon Sharpe
They. They definitely. Probably out of Denver. I mean. But a lot of. But a lot. A lot of people now, Ocho, they live in the city where they play. We. A lot of us went. We went home. I mean, you know, we were.
- [39:10]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I think I've been to Denver one time. Denver's a nice city. Denver's a nice city. I wasn't able to see everything they have to offer, but the little bit I did see, it's a nice place. Food was good. The people were very nice. Everything was very, very green. Obviously. I'm sure it's cold and snow in there right now, but it was cool.
- [39:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He hasn't come back. He's gonna have to fix that.
- [39:40]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
What happened.
- [39:41]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, he doesn't have any come from behind victories when he's down by eight points in the first Shanahan. Oh, yeah. Now, it didn't help that he had some, you know, he had CJ bad 30 and he had some guys tried they was trying to win with. But you. I would have thought that with Jimmy G or a Purdy that we'd have at least one or two. But I think it just goes to show you the greatness of Patrick Mahomes. That's what this tells me because he's at the top of the chart. The Guppies won 470.
- [40:23]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
The who?
- [40:25]
Shannon Sharpe
The Guppies.
- [40:26]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Are you talking about the Dolphins?
- [40:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, my bad.
- [40:30]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, I mean, they just, they just as bad as the ponies then. Don't do that. I'm just saying don't do that.
- [40:39]
Shannon Sharpe
When last time y w a playoff game at home.
- [40:42]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, what's the point? What's the point?
- [40:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Last time you want to playoff, y' all didn't even make the playoffs.
- [40:45]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
We didn't make the playoff. But y' all right back at home.
- [40:47]
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all right with us with, with Joe. Y' all got Joe Burrow. You say Joe one of the top three quarterbacks and y' all can't make.
- [40:54]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Got hurt this year. Don't do that.
- [40:56]
Shannon Sharpe
What about, what about last year? Did he get hurt?
- [40:59]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, he was hurt last year too.
- [41:01]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah? Yeah, yeah.
- [41:03]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Don't. Don't do that. You talk about, you talk about the Guppies. I mean, we talk about your ponies because the same place the Dolphins at the same place the Broncos at right now.
- [41:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, y' all been underwater. We just got here.
- [41:14]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Well, we got there two weeks. Two weeks before y'.
- [41:16]
Shannon Sharpe
All.
- [41:16]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
What's the difference? I ain't no different.
- [41:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all got there three weeks before us.
- [41:22]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
We all in the same place right now. That's all that matter.
- [41:27]
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- [42:18]
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- [44:29]
Shannon Sharpe
According to ESP. According to ESPN John Weinfoose Multiple sources said that Kyler Murray Trade value increased following Dante Moore's announcement that he was returning to the Ducks. One less quarterback on the market makes desperations increase. One source told espn Kyler is expected to be a top trade candidate this off season and the lack of quarterback prospects in the 2026 draft will only increase the demand for him. Fernando Mendoza is projected to be selected number one overall by the Raiders. While no other quarterback in this year's class has proven to be worthy of a first round pick as of yet. An NFC source told ESPN that starting price for Murray could start with a second round pick. The source added that if the Cardinals can trade Murray, they will.
- [45:19]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I think, I think Kyler Murray might end up in New York. Huh. I think he, I think he might.
- [45:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [45:26]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
For some reason. I don't know for some God forsaken reason, I think he's going to end up in New York. Versatile player that can do a multitude of things. Obviously he not very tall but what he lacks in height, he's somewhat good in other areas. Aaron Glenn knowing how to use him to be able to manipulate his skill set and take advantage of of what he can do well is is a possibility. I'm trying to think of other teams that might need a quarterback. Raiders. That's out. Tennessee. That's out. Obviously all the main teams of the Ravens, Texans, they're out. Chiefs are out. Chat chat. Any, any thought on other teams outside of the New York jets that that that could land Kyler Murray.
- [46:14]
Shannon Sharpe
I think Cleveland be in play. I mean you have to look at okay, nfc, NFC South. I think Tampa's good. Atlanta. Is Atlanta good?
- [46:28]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I mean do they want to bring Kyler Murray in knowing that wherever he goes he's going to be the starter? I don't think they create that quarterback controversy over in Atlanta. No.
- [46:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Shook, they're sold on Shook in New Orleans. I believe out uh, I don't see us place for him in, in Carolina. Let's go to the NFC East. Dallas is good. The Giants are good. The Commanders are good. The Eagles are good. Let's go to the NFC North. Chicago's good. Uh, Detroit's good. Green Bay is good. Minnesota. Are we sure?
- [47:05]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm gonna throw two names out there without going through divisions. I say Minnesota and I say maybe even Miami. So my, my three teams for, for Kyler Murray, New York Jets, Miami Dolphins or the Minnesota Vikings. Chad, what you think Chad?
- [47:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Are the Steelers in play? That.
- [47:30]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That's another one. That's another one. I'm thinking Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers give it one more run. If that doesn't happen then the Steelers are also in plague.
- [47:42]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm just trying to figure out, but remember the, I mean, the reports that, you know, that he and, and, and Rogers wouldn't see an eye to eye at the end of his tenure there.
- [47:50]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Well, hey, I don't know. I, I ain't no telling where Aaron Rodgers, you know, you know how he does. I mean, he, he, he loves that they're being in that position of power to be able to control the narrative whether he stays or goes. And I, I don't know.
- [48:13]
Shannon Sharpe
So we'll see where Kyler ends up. Coach prime has implemented a new system to hold players accountable. Taking their nil money. Colorado will now issue fines for attendance violation. Among Those is a $2,500 for miss practice. If you're late, it's going to cost you $500 late for meeting or film session. $400 no show meeting or film session. $2,000 late to strength and conditioning. $1,000 a no show strength and conditioning, 1500. Late treatment. A thousand. No show for treatment, 1500. In addition, Colorado players could be fined up to 2500 for violation of team rules and could be fined up to 5,000 for public or social media misconduct. Both are based, heavily based on severity. Ocho, do you like this?
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- [49:08]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Because all he's doing is preparing you for the next level. So everything that prime has in place is exact same goddamn thing you're going to have to deal with at the next level, but just add another goddamn zero. That's all. So we're preparing. You're getting played like a pro. You have to conduct yourself like a pro. And therefore, now that you're getting nil money, now you're going to get fined like a pro. It's a part of the business. This is. I, I'm, I'm glad that he implemented this, and I think other college colleges implemented as well. So players can get a little bit more structure and discipline when it comes to their approach to the game. Not just playing the game for said money that you're receiving. There are other factors that go into that once you become said pro, in a sense.
- [49:56]
Shannon Sharpe
I like it for the simple fact you have to have accountability. And as a young man or young adult, there's going to be accountability. You can't keep showing up late to the job and expect to have a job. If you have intentions of going to the NFL, this is what it's going to cost. If you have tensions on being on someone's job, you keep showing up late, you keep missing, you're going to get fired.
- [50:19]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [50:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Now I understand when These kids weren't making any money. Use hard to find a kid. These kids making money now. So you want to be a pro. You want to get treated like you want to get paid like a pro, you get treated like a pro. I don't know why people have a problem with this. So you want a guy to make $4 billion and then he gets to come to practice? If he wants to come to practice, he'll come. If he wants to go to film study, he'll go. If he wants to go to study hall, he'll go. If he wants to go to workout, he'll go. With no ramifications.
- [50:49]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Some got to give. Somebody give.
- [50:56]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm. I. I'm just confused by talking about, oh, this say, this is not good. What do you mean it's not good?
- [51:03]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Wait, enforcing responsibility is not good?
- [51:09]
Shannon Sharpe
No, because, you know, a lot of people don't like responsibility. They don't like accountability. Let me come. Let me show up if. Because here, Ocho, this is what you're gonna get. As long as I'm doing my job, who cares if I'm late?
- [51:22]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You can't do that in the corporate world. You can't show up just because you do your job and pick and choose what time you want to walk into people office. That's not the way that work. Come on now. Come on now. And in prime. Prime. Keeping it sweet, you know, 500 here, a thousand here, 2500. But you better add another zero to that once you make it to the league. I wish you would miss a meeting. Late to who? Late to what?
- [51:54]
Shannon Sharpe
But I. Ocho, I don't understand. Ocho, I just want to know. In all my life, I've never missed a practice unless I was injured. I'm talking about how you are healthy, you 100% and you just not go to practice or you just not come to. Not come to work. I'm just trying to figure out and. And to hear people like, well, he didn't show up. I'm like, yeah, really?
- [52:19]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Never. I never heard of that before.
- [52:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Is that. I'm like, how is that even possible?
- [52:24]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, never heard of that before. Not showing up?
- [52:28]
Shannon Sharpe
No.
- [52:28]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Missing practice for a specific reason, yes, but just not showing about the blue. No.
- [52:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, that's. Normally you call and not. Not. Not five minutes before you got to go to practice, you let them know in advance. That's what you wouldn't do on your job. You just don't say, well, just not show up. You like, look, there's an emergency, and as soon as you Find out the emergency. You let the people know. Your employer knows that I'm not going to be able to make it to work. I have an emergency. A kid, my wife, my girlfriend, X, Y and Z, whatever the case may be. But just to not show up or just not come to practice or to be. Look, it's a different time now. I mean, I, I, I, it's different. It's just different now, Ocho. It just is. And if you work in these, if you work in these occupations, you just got to accept that that's why I couldn't do it. I just believe, I just believe professional and Pro1 is, is the occupation of what you do, and the pro is how you handle said occupation. I just don't believe that you should just let, oh, whatever. It's not that big of a deal. He a couple of minutes late. It always starts off as a couple of minutes. Then it goes to 5, then it goes to 10, then it goes to 30, then it goes to an hour. Well, as long as he's doing his job, I can tell people that's never employed anybody or never run a business, and then more times than not, they're probably the people that's showing up late.
- [53:55]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Most of the time.
- [53:59]
Shannon Sharpe
I just, I, I, I've never, I've never understood it. I'm never gonna. And I don't care. And here, look, we. Whatever you need to do in your free time, you got free time, Ocho. But then when it's time, when it's time to do Club Shay Shay. When it's time to do Shay Media event. Let's get it done. Let's be where we're supposed to be. When we're supposed to be. When you got your time off, do whatever you want. Go skydiving, go bungee jumping. Just get your a, Just have them jump. Bungee your ass right in here when you're supposed to be at work. That's all I care about. But I don't have a problem with Coach Prime. I, I, I'm sure there are probably other institutions. Maybe Coach prime is the only one that advertised it. But I'm sure there are other institutions that when you're dealing with this kind of money and everybody doesn't make Jeremiah Smith $4.3 million, but guys that are making money, well, because you have to be making money in order for them to take money. So you, you, you, you. Even jobs that I hated Ocho and I wanted to be late. My grandma. Get your ass on up. You getting out of here? I don't want to go work in the hot ass sun for 12 hours and make $5, make $10.
- [55:21]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That's it.
- [55:23]
Shannon Sharpe
You. Yeah, what the hell you think? No $50 day jobs back then? Man, I remember when I started working in Savannah and I was making $50 a day. Oo, do you know what $50 a day was back in 1986? 87, 88. Boy, that was a lot of money. $250 a week.
- [55:40]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I know.
- [55:41]
Shannon Sharpe
And then a half a day on a half a day on Saturday. That's 25, 275. What? Boy, you couldn't hit me in the ass with a red apple. That man. Get that man. Hey, that man counting them Twitter. Hey, I. I have a head out here like this. Oo 20, 40, 68, 120, 40, 68, 120, 20.
- [56:01]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And you were feeling good, huh? Feel rich and you feel like he was on top of the world at that money, huh?
- [56:07]
Shannon Sharpe
What?
- [56:07]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. You ain't got. Listen, I know bro, I know man.
- [56:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, don't. I don't want no hundred because. 200, you don't feel like you got nothing. 20. As a matter of fact. Give me 10.
- [56:17]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I need it stacked up. I need it stacked up. Make me feel.
- [56:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, give me 10. Yeah, let me, hey, let me, let me out. Let me get that thing right there, boy. I come home Saturday after the 8.
- [56:30]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Roll that thing up in a rubber.
- [56:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Band, get graded by 50, get graded by $50 and the rest of me.
- [56:39]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I put that thing in a rubber band. I feel like I'm on top of the world, Ocho.
- [56:45]
Shannon Sharpe
You know what I used to do, Ocho? I go, I had a convenience store give me 20 ones. And what I do, I hey, I get that old Niagara spray and put that thing on the ironing board. You hear that? Them nice and sharp, like they just came out the counter. Boy, you couldn't tell me nothing. Boy, I had a boy. I had them twitted around that the woods.
- [57:17]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You ain't had no rubber band. You had a rubber band.
- [57:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Now I had no rubber band on.
- [57:22]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, I had a rubber band. I r the rubber band around that thing twice. Make it look like it's something. It wasn't really nothing. It looked like something though.
- [57:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Back then, I think. I think I stopped carrying a bill for. I probably was like a sophomore, okay? Cuz I got tired of cu, you know, you carry a bill for too much, you going to have an outline on your back pocket. I was like, nah. And besides, I a have nothing in there. But, but but bills anyway, cuz that's what my grandfather all the bill, he have his phone bill, he had a light bill, the gas bill all in there. So. But man, there was a time and so I was just like, you know what if I could get my. Ocho, I was. When you think about it, Ocho, if we could get our ass up to go work a fifty, a hundred dollars a day job. You mean to tell me you can't get your ass up to go work a hundred thousand dollar a week job or two hundred thousand dollars a week job or, or a five hundred thousand dollars a week job? You going to be late to that ain't got.
- [58:24]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You only got to tell me what time to be there once. Just once. One time.
- [58:35]
Shannon Sharpe
B. Please. One time. Think about it. If somebody would have told, if somebody would have told you. When I was working in those fields. Oo cuz, I thought $1,000, I thought $1,000 was boy, if I said man, if the God ever let me make a thousand dollars at one time, at one time. So I'm gonna do a job if somebody gonna give me a thousand dollars. 10 $100 bills, 20, 50 do. Man, is that a little bit of my, A little bit of money I was making on you? I was so happy I was getting, you know, 5,000 every two weeks. And I'm. I said, my brother said man, how much? I said man, I made $5,300. He said, guess I'm a big bro.
- [59:30]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Man, what do you make him?
- [59:32]
Shannon Sharpe
I say huh? He done double, he done doubled up my, tripled up my check, man, let me get to work. I'm gonna get some of this money. Is that. It's a. Oh, I'm gonna get.
- [59:52]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yes out there.
- [59:57]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm gonna get it, I'm gonna get it and I'm gonna be on time. Cuz even when I was in college, I, I wasn't making no money and I wasn't late to practice. I didn't miss no practice.
- [60:09]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You locked in.
- [60:10]
Shannon Sharpe
I'mma get this money. Oh yeah. And plus I had responsibilities. I couldn't let my grandmother down. She done did all she could. She done raised her nine kids, took my mom three and raised up as her own and love my mom three more than she did her own. Nah, couldn't do that, Ocho. I. I don't get these kids and y' all can't make me get these kids. I get. It's a different generation. These kids lazy, they're entitled and they're spoiled and their parents and grandparents has Done them a disservice because they get their ass on people job and you give your, give them people your ass to kiss and ain't nobody kissing no ass in these days and times when I'm paying you a salary, I'm not gonna kiss your ass. That ain't happening. Zion Williamson signature shoe line is being discontinued by Jordan. Zion signed the deal before entering the NBA. It was the second largest rookie shoe deal ever. 75 million behind only LeBron James's 90 million. The Zion 4, which was released in 2025 will be the final model in this.
- [61:18]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I mean, you know, you can, all that is because of injuries, not being on the court, not being able to play. You know, obviously he was, he was supposed to be the next big thing. He was supposed to be the next person to take over and be the face of the league at some point. But the injuries, the, the multitude of injuries, I mean it hampered that. Still. When he is healthy boy, he's unbelievable. He is unbelievable. Just the problem is hard to keep him on the court. Hard to keep on the court. So I, I understand their decision to discontinue that, that, that line and I, I, I don't know, I don't know, man, that. Hey, did you see what he did to Wimy the other night? Or was that last night?
- [62:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, when he dunked it?
- [62:05]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm just saying in general, he, I.
- [62:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Think it was tonight. I think they played tonight when they play. Didn't they play tonight or they play last night?
- [62:12]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
He, hey, uncle. He did whatever he wanted to do.
- [62:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, Ocho. It's just that I think a lot of people wanted stuff for more for Zion than Zion wanted it for himself. I don't think Zion ever wanted to be in New Orleans. I've said this on several occasions. I thought Zion would have preferred to be the, the number three pick and go to New York as opposed to being the first pick and being in New Orleans because he wanted to be in a bigger market. He didn't want to be there, he didn't want, he did not want to be in New Orleans. And it ain't where you go is what you do once you arrive. And you know, he got injured his first year and he, he didn't do the necessary things in order to, and I'm not here to try to belittle the man, but I just think Zion could have done things, some, some things better, taking better care of himself. I, I don't the off the field of stuff. Everything else will work itself out. Yeah, you, you make Jokes about what someone did in their private life and then it becomes public. I, I don't care, I don't care about that. And maybe, maybe it did or it didn't play a role in him not being able to be on the court. But I'm talking about his physical fitness, his training, his eaters, his dietary. They. And when I would say, oh, you don't know and this and that. Now those people. Now look, yeah, that guy, remember, he, he, he was supposed to be a perennial all pro. I mean, an all NBA selection. He was supposed to be a perennial NBA all star.
- [63:59]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. Hey, when he's healthy, man, it ain't no denying it. You see what you said, ain't no denying it. Boy, he is that boy. When he's healthy.
- [64:15]
Shannon Sharpe
When. All the guys that was picked after him, everybody's played. Look at that. John Moran. John Moran has been injured, but he's played 80 games more. RJ Barrett has played 166 games more. DeAndre Hunter has played 122 games more. Darius Garland, who's been nicked, he's played a hundred and. 62 games more. Damn. Instead of, you know, doing what he eating like he's supposed to. And Ocho, when you have that kind, the kind of access that he has, he can hire a personal chef, you can hire that.
- [65:15]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
So many different, so many different avenues as far as from a nutrition standpoint, regardless of what city you playing in. I mean, it come down to the people around you as well.
- [65:26]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, basically, he's played six seasons, played 246 games. So basically that's 40 games a season. They play 82 games a season. He's made about $154 million. He should have been in line to get another contract for another 300 million. And remember, Ocho, they had to put all these clauses. His weight, his body fat, X, Y and Z. That's not how it's supposed to work. But when they don't trust you, they'll put things in the contract because they know you'll f it up.
- [66:14]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [66:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Hopefully he gets somewhere and. He can be happy. And we can see because he's still only, what, 26 years of age.
- [66:36]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That's it.
- [66:46]
Shannon Sharpe
He's 25.
- [66:47]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Ocho, wait. Still a baby, huh?
- [66:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, a video of Tracy Mark has gone viral of blowing off a homeless man that apparently used to bully him when they were younger and has been going viral on social media. Let's take a look at this video. Ocho, you always want to ask about.
- [67:06]
Julian Love
Tax time.
- [67:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Don't talk to me like I owe you something. I didn't say that. Can I get something, please? No. Yeah, but I think I forgot.
- [67:24]
Julian Love
I'm.
- [67:25]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm homeless boy. Can I get a picture of my sister? Hey, Ocho, hold on. Before you go, Ocho, how you gonna talk about I'm homeless boy? You see? You see? And I. I've seen some things on social media. Oh, guys, people. Y' all get mad at people, and you won't speak to him. But y' all like, well, he worth this, he worth that. I told you, be careful of the toes you step on today. They might be connected to the foot that leads to the leg that's up to the behind that you got to kiss tomorrow. So y' all street committee stop telling people what y' all would do when somebody hasn't Be. Be. Did you wrong talk reckless to you. And y' all talking about, oh, I would have done this. No, y' all won't. You won't. Y' all get to say that because y' all want everybody to see. Make it seem like you got empathy. I know a lot of you. Somebody did you wrong when you were younger, you not turning a cheat. I know that's in the Bible. And I said that one time. I said, that's in the Bible. I ain't in there. Go ahead.
- [68:36]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
They do used to. The dude used to the bully Tracy, I'm assuming, back in the younger days.
- [68:42]
Shannon Sharpe
That'S what's being back in the younger days.
- [68:43]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But he don't owe you nothing. We all got the same 24 hours. It's what you do with those 24 hours you got. Obviously, Tracy did his thing, and obviously his didn't work out. Being homeless. I think his approach could have been a little bit different, the way he was talking. But obviously, whoever it was is somebody from New York. And you know how New York folk talk. That's how they talk. And he still has not really animosity, but still has that. That. That bully mentality. And you can tell by the way he's talking, even though he's not in that.
- [69:14]
Shannon Sharpe
That, boy, I'm homeless boy.
- [69:18]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm homeless boy, man, you know, hey, you know, he don't owe you nothing. He don't. He don't owe you nothing. That's why you're approaching asking for help. It has to be sincere.
- [69:29]
Julian Love
It has to be.
- [69:30]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Since he still got that. That mentality, like, he's still the goddamn bully.
- [69:36]
Shannon Sharpe
Because he looking at it like, tracy, you got money. Forget everything that I may have said. Get it? Forget everything that I may have done. Since you're in a position to help, can you help me?
- [69:47]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hell, no.
- [69:48]
Shannon Sharpe
Let me ask you a question. In the process of asking him for money, did you ask for him to forgive you for what you've said or what you've done?
- [69:57]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Obviously. And forget.
- [69:58]
Shannon Sharpe
You see people, you, you, you, you people quick to say, well, well, you. You so well off. And. And. And I am. And I'm a very forgiving person, but you have to approach me the right way. I get the same thing. Hey, man, take a picture with me.
- [70:15]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Please.
- [70:20]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, I gotta take this picture because they ain't gonna believe I said, my man. I say, ma', am, sir, Is that how you approach somebody? That you want someone to do something for you? You tell them they gotta do this or you gonna do that? I said, so if I came up to you and says, you gonna do this, you gonna do that, how would you feel? You right. I'm sorry. Okay?
- [70:43]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [70:44]
Shannon Sharpe
But this notion that Tracy owes him something because he's a little down on his luck is just not true. If Tracy chose to give him something that's different, that's more power to it. But Tracy say, I remember you. You used to bully that. That's what he's saying. I don't know if it's true or not. I wasn't there. I'm just going by what Tracy said and what we heard in the video. You used to bully me. Oh, I know. That was back then, boy, I'm homeless, boy.
- [71:15]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
What you want me to do about that, boy? No. Damn. That's messed up, too. That's messed up. You got to. You gotta.
- [71:26]
Shannon Sharpe
I. I just. I.
- [71:28]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You got to be more careful how you treat people, huh? Especially when you're young because you never know when you got across that cross that bridge again. You never know when you're cross paths.
- [71:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Stepped on them toes. What are toes on, Ocho?
- [71:39]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [71:39]
Julian Love
Foot.
- [71:40]
Shannon Sharpe
What's the foot connected to? Leg. What that leg lead to? But, yeah, the toes you step on today might be on the foot connected to the leg that leads to the bus you got to kill. My grandma used to always say that. Say, boy, be careful how you treat people. Her famous thing say, the old people always call you boy.
- [71:58]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Always.
- [71:58]
Shannon Sharpe
She say, boy, be careful how you treat people because you never know who you'll ask to hand you your last drink of water. That stuck with me. That stuck with me.
- [72:11]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I don't burn. I don't burn no bridges on.
- [72:16]
Shannon Sharpe
You. Never. You never know who you will ask. To do something. Just because you're in a more favorable position today doesn't mean you'll be in that same position tomorrow. I try to treat everybody right, Ocho. I really do. I don't bother nobody. Try to stay in my own place, in my own lane. There are a lot of stuff that's going on. I don't care to talk about it because that ain't my business. But to treat somebody a certain way and because God has blessed them, you falling on hard times and to feel that person owes you something. No, my grandma did. My grandmother gave my brother, sister and I everything but life. My grandma didn't want us to do anything for her. We'd have to sneak out of the house to buy a refrigerator. Sneak out of the house to buy a washer and dryer. Libby, that's them boys money. Libby, we don't need nothing. What you mean we? Not Me and spank ain't even in this position if it's not for you. So that is the only person I feel like I owe somebody something. So for a person to treat me less than. Because maybe you're a little bigger, maybe you are in a little favorite, more favorable position now the roles get reversed. Remember, Ocho, the people that you meet going up, sometimes you'll meet them same people.
- [73:51]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Absolutely.
- [73:53]
Shannon Sharpe
You have been on the elevator. Ocho, you going up? They'll say, no, I'll wait. And guess what? You cut right back down. It's still right there.
- [74:05]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
God. God got a mysterious way.
- [74:10]
Shannon Sharpe
I just, I. I don't get it. And I don't. And I read some of the comments. Ah, Tracy, you got that. Had you not been this. That's besides the point. I. I just want to know. I just. I would just like to see a lot of people that commented the person that treated them the worst, how they feel about them today, they wouldn't have gave him that.
- [74:29]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
None of them.
- [74:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Because sometimes you won't even talk to a brother, a sister, a mom or dad or a loved one. But a total stranger that gave you they asked to kiss, now you're in a favorable position. You go like, okay, yeah, that's what I do. Well, if that's the case, go to that to your mom today that you hadn't spoke to in 15, 20 years, go do that to assist a sibling that you hadn't done in 15, 20 years, go do that to your child. So while you talking about that you would do this for a total stranger, go do that for a family member, Go to that, do that for A loved one, someone that's been in your life and maybe you had a falling out. Things happen. Family members sometimes fall out. But I'm telling you something about O.J. sharp. My grandma used to say, boy, teeth and tongue will fall out because you know what happened, Ocho, you'll bite your tongue. Your teeth get. Bite your tongue. Your tongue and teeth get mad at each other. They might not speak, but o' Shannon Sharp, Libby Sharp and Sterling Sharp, that ain't going to happen because for the longest that was all we had was each other. I don't get it. I don't. I'm a very humble person. I help people when I can. I don't speak about the stuff that I do because that's not what God put on my heart to do. To tell you what I've done for someone in specific. And I always give specific instructions. When Shelly sends money somewhere or does something. Mr. Sharp, it says do not let anybody find out because if he does, it won't happen again.
- [76:00]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I mean, a lot of people walk around, you know, entitled, entitled to something. Always. You put all the work in people you've grown up with. Sometimes it's, it's people you, you, you've associated yourself with. Sometimes not even, not even real friends. They're a friend of a friend and they comfortable enough to be able to ask you. You know, sometimes people approach you the right way when in need, you know, and asking for a favor. But everybody, many people are self entitled and feel that because they associate with you, you owe them something and then put in no work.
- [76:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Let me ask you a question, Ocho. Who your best friend that's not a fat. Your best friend.
- [76:43]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Best friend? Like, like literally best friend?
- [76:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [76:49]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Probably, probably to or TJ1.1 or the other.
- [76:58]
Shannon Sharpe
I look at my friends like this bucket and burns. They're my two best friends. I think everybody knows that. I look at the situation like this. If the roles were reversed, they were in my situation and I was in theirs, they would do for me. Like I.
- [77:12]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay, definitely. To tj yeah.
- [77:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Ask yourself that question. If the roles were reversed. They had and you didn't.
- [77:22]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
In a heartbeat. Yeah.
- [77:25]
Shannon Sharpe
There's your answer.
- [77:26]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
In a heartbeat.
- [77:31]
Shannon Sharpe
There's your answer.
- [77:36]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Absolutely.
- [77:40]
Shannon Sharpe
I think a lot of, a lot of, of how we are because you know, we, we basically to ourselves though, like I said, we didn't go to a, you know, we didn't really go to a whole lot of people's home. I ain't never spent a night. I've never spent the night at Someone's home. Not a family member, not a friend. That's not how we were raised. We were raised to be close to each other. I had my sister. I had my brother. And when they. You know, my sister's eight years older than me, so obviously by the time I'm 10, my sister's age to date go out. My brother's three years older, so he's going to college. I'm a sophomore in high school, so I spent a lot of time to myself. I got comfortable. I mean, I. My grandma like, boy, ain't nobody here to play with you. Ain't nobody here to hang out with you and talk to you. So I learned to spend a lot of times by myself. So when I went to Denver, Ocho. And there's Thanksgiving and there's those holidays, I'm by myself because my grandmother said, son, you. You got to be able to be able to be by yourself. I'm cool with that. Got dogs. I get lonely. I buy another dog. You tell her I'm getting lonely. I got three. They keep me working. They keep me. They keep me busy right now. But I. I don't. I don't get this. And I'm not saying I. And I don't know the man. I don't know Tracy Mark. I know Tracy Moore. I know who he is. I don't know like that. And I don't know the gentleman that asked, but I think there's a way. I think there's a way to approach that situation. I think he went about that whole situation wrong. And I think what tr. What looks like to me is that because he had Tracy Morgan. Tracy Morgan is a known name. He tried to put him on the spot.
- [79:26]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Cameras.
- [79:27]
Shannon Sharpe
He tried to put him on the spot. And Tracy's like, no, I.
- [79:31]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You used to bully me. I ain't. Forget about it.
- [79:35]
Shannon Sharpe
I remember.
- [79:36]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And then you talking to me reckless every day.
- [79:38]
Shannon Sharpe
I do.
- [79:40]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Now you.
- [79:41]
Shannon Sharpe
What do you think?
- [79:42]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Reckless, man, are you talking to me crazy?
- [79:44]
Shannon Sharpe
What? Yes.
- [79:46]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You need help when you talking to me like you still the bully. Yeah. All right.
- [79:53]
Shannon Sharpe
How you go ask somebody for something? Ocho. And you, reckless in your tone.
- [79:58]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. All right.
- [80:11]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't get it, but hopefully. Look, like I said, at the end of the day, God knows Tracy's heart. He knows what the gentleman did or didn't do, how he made him feel. Because at the end of the day, people might forget what you say. People might forget what you do, but a person will never, ever forget the way you made them feel. That is the most Important thing. How does a person make you feel? Not what he did or she did. How does that person make you feel? Yeah, Granny did a lot, but it was. I felt secure, I felt safe, I felt loved, I felt heard, I felt seen. Anytime my brother would make me cry, I go run to tell the granny. She say, stop crying, boy. She said, take all that to make a man. She'd always tell Granny here, you know, Granny ain't gonna let nobody hurt you. Get on back out there and play. I go out there and kick them and run off in the house. Ojo, I kick the and run in the house.
- [81:47]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hell, no.
- [81:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, by the other day, my brother said, man, you know what? I wouldn't hurt you so bad. Hey, I tell.
- [82:03]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You, can't be snitching now.
- [82:06]
Shannon Sharpe
What I tell on everybody. Brother, sister, aunts. Boy, they had to pay me. Ocho, Ocho. I be listening at the door.
- [82:16]
Julian Love
Ocho.
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Shannon Sharpe
I have my. I have my ear to the door is here. Oh, you got expelled from school. How long? Oh, y' all looking like you gonna skip school to go meet who? I walk. I walk in the room. They sitting on the bed. They said they sit the Indian style, leg folding, sitting on the bed. What y' all talking about? Nothing. You know, I heard what y' all.
- [82:49]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Said and, Unc, you was extorting them.
- [82:55]
Shannon Sharpe
It cost. Boy, if I went and told Papa they got kicked out of school or they snuck and met somebody.
- [83:07]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You made them pay you.
- [83:10]
Shannon Sharpe
They had to pay.
- [83:11]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
How much we talking about?
- [83:13]
Shannon Sharpe
$1 52. It all depends.
- [83:16]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That take you a long way back then, boy?
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Shannon Sharpe
Sure would. Boy, that's in the earth. That's in the mid-70s. That's in the mid-70s. $2 was a lot of money back then. I tell.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
For sure, I would. I didn't feel bad about it. I needed. I would. I would, though. Hell, no, I would. I told. Yeah, for sure they got kicked out of school. They gonna meet somebody, they gonna skip school.
- [83:59]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You got to pay me, keep my mouth closed.
- [84:01]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, sir. But look here. Barney Porter ain't play. He ain't play. He ain't play the guitar. He ain't play the drums. He ain't play at all. Oh, he did not play at all. All that joking and that. Kiki K, he. I ain't no snitch now, but I was back then. Okay, okay. I had to, man. Money was tight. I needed money got. You need ice cream money, milk money. You know, milk was fast in a car. No, Joe, back then, you know, you get the Chocolate milk and the white milk.
- [84:42]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [84:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Five cent, man. You know how many milks I could get for a dollar? I have before meal had me full milk sitting up on my tray.
- [84:51]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Feeling a. Feeling good, huh?
- [84:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep. Ice cream. You get a nutty buddy. You get a. A superstar. You get ice cream sandwich. Oh, yeah, I remember. I remember.
- [85:03]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Superstars and ice cream sandwich. Y. Y' all had the ice cream truck back then or you had the candy lady house?
- [85:09]
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, we. We had the lady house, but, you know, they sold. They sold the ice cream in the school.
- [85:14]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Okay. Okay.
- [85:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Yeah. Oh. It's time to play or fade. Presented by prize picks. Jalen Brunson. He will have 30, at least 35 points and assists. So when you combine his points and his assists, he'll have at least 35.
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Julian Love
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
More. I agree. Trey Murphy will have at least four assists. Trey been balling more. Cade Cunningham, 9 1/2 assists, so that means he'll have at least 10. Denver, Detroit. He been balling more.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
He's nice.
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Shannon Sharpe
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- [87:51]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You know, see how can go up and down the field. They can score at will.
- [87:56]
Shannon Sharpe
They can C2. Prince just wanted to support my favorite UNC and NEV. But please, are you guys coming to Philly? We need y' all out here bad. As we build out the tour schedule, uh, we're definitely gonna look to put some of the. The cities that we were supposed to come to last summer. We're definitely gonna look to put some of those back on the schedule. 6 foot 8. Aquarius Cam wars deserve to be in the Pro Bowl. I doubt a rookie number one overall pick would turn it down. Six foot, bro. I. I don't know. You asking me to speculate. All I know is that I believe the other guys. The Joe Burrows, the Lamar Jackson, the Aaron Rodgers, probably the Trevor Lawrence. Nah, I'm good spending that time with my family doing other things. Maybe they could have invited, but he was injured. I don't know if he's healed now. Remember, he. He got hurt in the last game, so maybe that factored in. I don't know. Ketric Miller. Sup, unc? Ocho, love. Mad is my 45th birthday. And yep, I'm on that shade by Laportier. Who's the best defender in AFC history? AFC history.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
AFC history. Shoot. Ray Lewis, Ed Reed. Yeah.
- [89:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Bruce Smith was in afc. Take you currently the. The record holding most sacks in NFL history. D.T.
- [89:32]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Thomas. I probably just. I'd probably just go with Ray. Yeah. I mean, Ed. Ed Ray or Troy, man, take. Take your pick. Boy, them boys was hell.
- [89:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Boy. Yeah. For me, I would say between. I'd say it's a coin flip between. I. I would kind of tend to lead towards a pass rusher because I think they can impact the game more than a. A linebacker. But for me, it'll probably be Ray or Bruce Smith. The goat 2022. Ocho, any memories with Kobe that y' all can share? RIP Kobe and Gigi and others. I'm trying to think. This event I went to. I went to an event, got a picture with Kobe and everything. I think it might have been to honor Quincy Jones, if I'm not mistaken, and exchanged information. I remember I texted. I texted him, Like, late December. Let me see. I'll tell you. Let me see here. Ojo. Yep. I text him December 26, 2019, Ask him for a pair of those. The PlayStation, Air Force Ones. He asked me, like, what game is? I said. I sent him a picture of him. He's like, oh, okay. Lol. I said, congrats on the new edition. A little King Mamba Jr. I said, a king. A little King Mamba Jr. Keeps eluding you. Hope all is well with you and the fam. He said, thanks, fam. My princes are tough enough love I gave him the praying hands he saw that was 20. That was 2019. December. December 28th of 2019. And I think he passed, like a month later, less than a month later. But he was. And I had a conversation with him. I was like. And I was talking to him that night. I was like, cold, man. You seem so at peace. He said, the same focus and the dedication and determination I had to play the game of basketball. I have that in animation and lighting. He said, that's my focus. He said, that's the only thing I'm focused on now. My girl, my family, my girls and this. And I think he won. Did he win an Oscar posthumously? That was. I mean, you know, it's hard to explain. He. What he wanted before he passed. Okay. About him. About the basketball, right? Did basketball. Ocho, you don't know. You like. Okay. You have this perception. Okay. You see the guy on television. And I had met him before because, as a matter of fact, I went back and. Oh, then there in Atlanta, he gave me a pair of shoes, the hype that he. That he had worn when they played the Nuggets. But I had really. You know, I was back there with him, talking to him and Shaq. But this was years, years, years ago. This was probably 20 years ago. So I did, you know, and I just. He dabbed me up and said, hey, man, congratulations, man. You do a hell of a job, boy. You know. You know your ish, don't you? I said, yeah, man, I appreciate that, man. Thanks for the support. And I was just talking. I said, man, you seem so at peace. And he's like, yeah, man, I'm at peace. He's like, sharp, man. I'm at peace, bro. He said, the same discipline, dedication that I had when I played, I have that night. Have that right now. It's just in a different area. Oh, man, that's great. That's great. I said, man, hey, congrats on everything. Keep up the great work. Boom. That's it. And then, I mean. And I remember, as a matter of fact, I had just got to Miami because we had the super bowl that year, 2020. That was. That was like a month before the pandemic. Oo. So I had just got to. It was the San Francisco, Kansas City Super Bowl. I had just. I had just gotten. I had just landed in Miami, had gotten to the hotel, and it started coming. So, you know, Ocho, you know how to think. I was like, man, I sure wish people would stop playing like this, man, because you start. You start hearing stuff coming out like, man, that can't be true. That ain't. That ain't real. That ain't real. And then as more starts to come out, you start like, okay, like, damn, that's crazy. Is this really. Is this really real? Is this really true? And then it's like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. It's true. This is.
- [94:28]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, that. That was crazy. I mean, I've had a.
- [94:31]
Shannon Sharpe
This is a Roberto Clemente, you know, he passed away tragically on. On a mission he was delivering, and he ended up perishing in a. In a plane crash. And I was like, oh, my gosh.
- [94:42]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, I mean, I bet.
- [94:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, my gosh.
- [94:45]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I've had my. My stories with Kobe, obviously, is. I mean, with mine, they're. They're pictures to go with him. He got me court size seats. I never forget. My. My son might have been CJ. CJ now is. Is 20, 22, 23 now. He was. He was a baby. He was old enough. He had his little headband. Kobe got his courtside seats to sit. To sit there and watch him play. I never forget. So he was able to meet Kobe once. And then I got a chance to eat lunch with Kobe at News Cafe. And this was that season where I was. I was disgruntled when I was trying to get out of Cincinnati. And that's the same game where I sat courtside with Denzel Washington and got my ass cussed out and had that same conversation with Kobe after I had gotten in trouble with, obviously, you know, I'm trying to say, after I got trouble and he. He got. He got on my ass. He got on my ass about that and about locking in and focusing and trying to rebuild myself and get myself back to where I fell from. And though that was a really, really dope conversation I had with him at News Cafe outside of that. And it. And then obviously, you know, the pass. And I was at the Pro bowl right before. Right. It was right before kickoff.
- [96:02]
Julian Love
Huh?
- [96:03]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Right before kickoff. I was getting ready to film and obviously came through my phone. That was crazy. Life is. Life is so fickle, man.
- [96:12]
Shannon Sharpe
It is. You never, never know. Lazy Lee, 34. Can you wish my wife, Shea Spears, a happy birthday? We gonna. We gonna get them shiesty shades or the 57 Savage shirts? 58 Savage shirts. Shay. Happy birthday, Lazy Lee. Appreciate the support. Hopefully you did something for Shay. You guys went to a nice romantic dinner, got us, you know, I don't know, maybe A bracelet, maybe something.
- [96:42]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [96:43]
Shannon Sharpe
To let let Shay know that you appreciate and just how much remember. So thank you, guys. Yeah, the shiesty Shay teeth. We might. We have to look into that. Trio Brown, can you wish me and my son Cartier a happy birthday? I'm blessed to be a birthday twin with my little man. Hey, that's unbelievable, bro. I'm trying to figure out how I can time that up my damn self while you talking, you know what I'm saying? Oh, Joe.
- [97:07]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
There you go. That's what I'm talking about. Now.
- [97:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Happy birthday. Happy birthday, Trio, to you and Cartier. That's unbelievable. That is unbelievable. You couldn't do it again. If you try to, but you don't have to because you already got a twin that's born on your day. You'll never forget that birth. You'll never forget his birthday. And it makes it even more special because he happened to be born on that very, very special day. Happy birthday to you too. H underscore hunt23 what's up, Ocho? Do you think Kyle Shanahan will be on the hot seat going into next year? No, to get to the the divisional round of the playoffs with all the injuries, with, with. With. With Bosa being out with. With linebackers, with IU not being there with a McCaffrey being banged up. Purdy missing time. No, absolutely not. Your Corey Eaton. What's up, Uncle Nocho? My girlfriend Michaela had surgery to have a gallbladder removed. Can you wish her a speedy recovery and give her your blessings? Absolutely, Michaela, speedy recovery. You know, the thing is about the gallbladder, Ocho, we got it, but we don't need it. I like damn. Why you put something up? I ain't questioning God. Hey, he put it there for a reason, but it's glad we can function without it. But hopefully everything the surgery went well. Wish her a speedy recovery and God bless the both of you guys. But thank you, guys. Thank you for supporting Nightcap and that's the least we can do. Michaela, healthy recovery, speedy recovery, wrong perk. Hey, you speaking tonight and this is why I tune in every night. I respect you and Ocho for everything that you do. Thank you for giving us comments, content that you do. God bless you in the chat. Thank you, man. Appreciate that. Thank you for the support. That's what we do oo say, you know, I I saying is come for the sports, stay for the story. Mike. Mike. What's up, uncle? Oo if we took oo idea and did a legends versus Current players. With you and OO on the same team, who would be the quarterback? Me, cuz I can't run so I'm Brady. Destroyed. Mr. Shannon, what are your thoughts on a mini pen? A min pen? Cool dog or. Nah, I got three. Okay. I'm not. I'm not a men pen.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
What's that?
- [99:34]
Shannon Sharpe
A miniature picture pincher?
- [99:35]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. Okay. Okay, okay.
- [99:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah. I'm not, I'm not. I'm not a. I'm not a men pen guy. But they cool. They bark a lot. They're in the terrier short for terror. So that concludes this episode of Nightcap. I want to thank each and every one of you for joining us tonight. Appreciate that, appreciate Julian love joining us and sharing his the super bowl excitement and what's to expect in the coming days. That was awesome. So we appreciate or appreciate Julian joining us and to wish him the best of luck. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite unc. And that is my partner and co host, the former Pro Bowler and all pro from the Cincinnati Bengals. That is Chad Ochociko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you for your support and your continued support. Those looking to look at to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier and you can't find it in a state or city near you, head to laportierconac.com to order your bottle. We have the OG bottle, which is a 750 and we also now have the Junior same great quality, same great taste, the same smoothness. Please drink responsibly and be safe. Tickets for our super bowl live show in San Francisco are on sale now. That link is pinned in the chat. The show will be Thursday, February 5th at the Earps Theater in San Francisco. So bear area residents, Patriots fans and Seahawks fans, NFL fan, if you're in the area, come by and check out your favorite Uncle Neff meet and greet. Tickets are almost gone. We've got about five or so left. So make sure you purchase. Make sure you purchase yours to get an opportunity to hang out with Ocho and I. Episode one of Nightcap Outside drops tomorrow at 7pm That's Easter, that Pacific time, so that's 10 Eastern. Nightcap Outside. Guys, you're gonna love this. And there's more to come, but you're gonna love, you're gonna love this first episode. We can't wait to to show you guys that tomorrow we got a very special treat. Like I said, we're working on something for Ocho. We got one LA Russell. He's already a scheduled to perform. He's gonna perform. He's locked in. But we're working on something special for oo. We'll have something no in the next couple of days, see if we can have that locked in. The Mississippi mask.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You hear that?
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Shannon Sharpe
And hit chat.
- [102:09]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You hear that?
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Shannon Sharpe
The Mississippi Mass Choir. So we're trying to lock that in for Ocho. We got another. We're trying to get another guest locked in. So we'll see, we'll know something about that in the coming days also. But the Nightcap live show is gonna be extremely, extremely. It's probably gonna be our best show. Probably gonna be our best show. And we can't wait to share that with you guys in attendance and those that's gonna be watching it online. So again, thank you. I'm Unc, he's Ocho. We'll see you off tomorrow. We'll see you Wednesday night. The third member of the big three will be back. ISO Joe Jones Wednesday. Thank you guys for joining us. I'm Unc, he's Ocho.
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