Nightcap Hour 2: OBJ’s money troubles after BLOWING $4M a YEAR + Vikings WAIVE Adam Thielen + Unc UNLEASHES on Adin Ross

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 2: OBJ’s Money Troubles, Vikings Waive Adam Thielen, Unc Unleashes on Adin Ross

Host: Shannon Sharpe ("Unc") & guest host ("Ocho")
Date: December 2, 2025
Podcast: Club Shay Shay

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Episode Overview

This lively “Nightcap” Hour 2 episode dives deep into the financial realities behind superstar NFL contracts, focusing on Odell Beckham Jr.’s comments about how even $100 million deals aren’t what they seem. Shannon Sharpe ("Unc") and Ocho unravel how spending, taxes, and lifestyle demands can quickly eat away at even the biggest paychecks. The duo then pivots to breaking NFL news, discussing the Vikings waiving Adam Thielen and the unique business side of roster decisions. The episode wraps with a fiery and nuanced exchange about streamer Adin Ross’s controversial remarks about the N-word, prompting Unc to unleash incisive commentary about social media, cultural taboos, and public accountability.

Throughout, the hosts weave in classic locker-room banter, insights on managing wealth, and responses to fan questions. The tone is sharp, real, and peppered with anecdotes and memorable moments.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Eagles’ Two-Game Skid & A.J. Brown Criticism

[02:56-06:30]

• Unc and Ocho open by reacting to Eagles legend Seth Joyner’s harsh comments on A.J. Brown, who was called “self-centered” for only complaining about touches in wins, not losses.
  • Notable Quote [03:46]:
    “That tells me that's all that bitching and moaning was really about. Was really self-centered.” – Seth Joyner (quoted by Ocho)
  • Ocho defends receivers wanting the ball, highlighting that financial incentive and pride play a role:
    • [04:09] “He wants to be productive. He makes $33 million a year. He wants the ball to coincide with the money that he's making. Yes, winning is a team accomplishment... but when everybody does everything right in unison, you get a W.”
  • Unc contextualizes the tension: Wanting the ball is natural, but it’s tough to complain when winning.

2. Unit Accountability & Offense vs Defense

[06:35-09:43]

• Discussion on how football teams rely on complementary play; if defense falters, offense must rise, and vice versa.
  • [07:57] Unc: “It’s hard for any unit to be up here [all the time].”
  • They touch on the Chargers’ defense and upcoming games, with playful banter about Justin Herbert’s injury.

3. Odell Beckham Jr.’s (OBJ) Money Troubles

[12:44-29:00]

• OBJ’s comments spark an extended discussion on what a “$100M contract” really means. Unc and Ocho dissect taxes, agent fees, extravagant lifestyle costs, and family obligations.
  • OBJ’s Quote [12:44]:
    “You give somebody five years, a hundred million dollar contract, right? ...it’s like five years, 60 million, you’re getting tax. Do the math. That’s 12 million a year... You have to spend, you have to use, save, invest, flaunt.”
  • [16:46] Ocho: “If you get $60 million liquid and that can't last you a lifetime, you got, you got, you got some. You got a problem.”
  • [18:06] Unc: “It ain’t the payment, it's the upkeep.”
  • [21:35] Unc: "Flying private…that's anywhere from $10,000 to $20,000 an hour. Go overseas—could be $400,000 just like that."
  • Unc runs through hidden expenses: buying family houses/cars, child support (up to $50k/month), security, upkeep.
  • Ocho and Unc advocate for discipline, humility, and long-term thinking over flash:
    • [20:34] Ocho: “Everyone doesn’t have that financial savviness or that financial discipline to think long term...the name itself was just as big as anything else I could purchase.”
  • [28:38] Unc’s financial wisdom: “$60 million liquid…invest conservative…at 5-8%, go pay you four million a year and you never lose the principal.”

Notable Segment: “The Myth of Living Like Instagram”

• From [33:59], Ocho rails against social media fakery:
  • [34:11] Ocho: “It’s impossible to live the lifestyle that the people put up consistently day to day…there ain't no way.”
  • They note true wealth is understated; the real rich “couldn’t care less about flaunting."
  • [35:06] Ocho: “You wouldn’t even be able to tell.”

4. Vikings Waive Adam Thielen

[38:49-40:55]

• News breaks that the Vikings have waived Adam Thielen after he requested a release for a chance to join a contender.
  • Ocho and Unc reflect on the business side of the NFL, the quick turnaround of players’ fortunes, and the reality of aging in pro sports.
    • [40:30] Ocho: “Doesn’t even sound right—Adam Thielen being the fourth receiver. I remember him and goddamn Diggs cooking not too long ago in Minnesota. It’s crazy what age does, or the business in general. The way the system just works you out.”

5. Frank Ragnow’s Wild Comeback Attempt

[37:28-38:49]

• Unc shares the bizarre story of Frank Ragnow trying to come out of retirement only to fail his physical due to a torn hamstring. This spins into locker room humor and wild anecdotes about injuries and comebacks.

6. Adin Ross & the N-Word Controversy

[44:26-50:38]

• They break down streamer Adin Ross’ admission about using the N-word while rapping along at home, and his belief “everyone says it."
  • [44:26] Ocho: “Look, I ain't in his home. What he says...I’m sure a lot of other people of the opposite race say that word when rapping songs.”
  • [45:09] Unc: “When you in your own home now, you might get [slapped] outside…that might be a different story.”
  • [45:48] Ocho: “He’s a content creator. They create controversy, they create turmoil. Sharing everything. That's their goal.”
  • Unc’s pointed critique: They note no one dares say other racial/ethnic slurs ("the most powerful community in the world" with "a white and blue flag with a star on it" [47:04]), and observe society’s selective taboos:
    • [47:02] Unc: “They ain’t got no problem saying those words that are offensive to Black people. But there are some other words that’s offensive to other people. They don’t never utter those.”
    • Ocho and Unc riff on how derogatory terms for other groups are never put in music or movies, contrasting with how the N-word is normalized in popular culture.

7. Fan Q&A: NFL, Sports Talk, and Locker Room Life

[50:39–end]

• The duo answer questions on NFL team performance, discuss quarterback expectations, and indulge in classic barbershop debate (e.g. is DeVonta Smith actually a #1 receiver?).

• The conversation turns freestyle with jokes, stories about thriftiness and buying family gifts, humblebrags about old cars, and playful trash talk.

  • [56:21] Ocho (re: setting up his trophy room): “My nightcap sign is gonna be lit up...real professional.”
  • [58:21] Ocho: “You gotta live, man. You got to get outside that box...otherwise you’ll be 80 reflecting on things you could have experienced.”

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Memorable Quotes

• [04:09] Ocho: “He wants to be productive. He makes $33 million a year. He wants the ball to coincide with the money that he's making.”
• [16:46] Ocho (on OBJ’s situation): “If you get $60 million liquid and that can't last you a lifetime, you got, you got, you got some. You got a problem.”
• [18:06] Unc: “It ain’t the payment, it’s the upkeep.”
• [20:34] Ocho: “...the name itself was just as big as anything else I could purchase.”
• [34:11] Ocho: “It’s impossible to live the lifestyle that the people put up consistently day to day…there ain't no way.”
• [40:30] Ocho (on Adam Thielen): “Doesn’t even sound right—Adam Thielen being the fourth receiver...the business just works you out.”
• [47:02] Unc: “It’s funny how they pick and choose. It’s always that word [the N-word]. So is that one, and so is that one. But nobody ever uses it [derogatory terms for other communities].”
• [58:21] Ocho: “You gotta live, man. You got to get outside that box...otherwise you’ll be 80 reflecting on things you could have experienced.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Eagles/A.J. Brown Debate: [02:56-06:30]
• Offense vs Defense/Unit Play: [06:35-09:43]
• OBJ & Financial Realities: [12:44-29:00]
• Social Media Fakeness & True Wealth: [33:59-35:06]
• Vikings Waive Adam Thielen: [38:49-40:55]
• Adin Ross N-Word Controversy & Cultural Double Standards: [44:26-50:38]
• Fan Q&A/Locker Room Talk/Advice: [50:39–end]

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Tone & Atmosphere

• Real talk, humorous, slightly irreverent locker-room style
• Combines practical wisdom, candid truth-telling, playful ribbing, and sharp cultural commentary
• Shannon Sharpe and Ocho’s chemistry fuels honest, sometimes biting, but always engaging banter

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Summary

This episode is essential listening for anyone curious about life after the big NFL payday, the sometimes-brutal realities behind headlines, and the culture-shaping power of sports media and personalities—for better or worse. Ocho and Unc never shy away from saying what others won’t, making the conversation as eye-opening as it is entertaining.

Transcript

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[Ocho]

A lot of the team's two current two game skid Eagles ledger Seth Joiner Man, I should have called Seth. I know that you could have. I'd have called him if he came on tonight. That's my guy, man. We have Seth 98. We had a great Seth joining the running back. We had the running back. Nah, Seth was a linebacker. Oh. He was on Green Bay in 97. We beat them in Green. We beat him when he was on Green Bay. Then he came to us and got a Super bowl and said, I'm out of here, bro. I'm done. In light of the team's current two game skid, Eagles legend Seth Jordan has some harsh criticism for A.J. brown. Throughout the season, A.J. has consistently complained after wins because he was unhappy with his lack of involvement. Over the last two games he's had his best two statistical performance of the season and we didn't hear any complaints out of him. Losses. Jonah took it, took issue with that. A lot of people are going to be pissed at me and they might be even pissed at me. But a lot of of ways he's a typical receiver, 21st century wide receiver diva. He's selfish because he's getting the ball on a regular basis and there's no complaining. The Eagles lost two games in a row and A.J. brown had nine plus targets and a touchdown. You ain't complaining now. That tells me that's all that bitching and moaning was really about. Was really self centered.

[Uncle Nocho]

Well, you got that right. The what are you. What is he talking about? God damn, Seth. Yes, all receivers want the ball. That's the whole point. What are you talking about? Everybody's selfish at some point in the game of football. Yes, it's a team sport. Yes, we want to win, but also we need to be productive. We want to be productive. He didn't sign up. If he wanted to run track, he would have ran track. If he wanted to run up and down the field and not do anything and not be productive. He would have ran track. He wants to be productive. He makes $33 million a year. He wants the ball to coincide with the money that he's making. Yes. Winning is a team accomplishment. It's not just on A.J. brown. It's not just on Saquon Barkley. It's just not on Jalen Hurts. It's a team effort collectively as a group. When everybody does everything right in unison, you get a W. I mean, what. What are we talking about here?

[Ocho]

It's tough.

[Uncle Nocho]

Very.

[Ocho]

Because a part of me understands what he's going through. Yeah. And a part of me, like, man, look, I wanted the ball too, but I understood. At the end of the day, it's just hard. It's just hard. And fans are gonna look like, bro, we winning, man. We winning. We winning. Just shut up. If we weren't winning and you're not getting the ball, I'm gonna be on your side. I'm gonna have a. I'm gonna have a banner throw to AJ but when you're winning and I get. He told. He promised the owner that he wasn't going to speak out anymore. So he wasn't going to do. Say anything after games or he wasn't gonna put anything on social media. So that's probably. That might be a reason why he's not saying anything, because he promised Jeffrey Lurie that he wasn't going to say anything. It's just. It's just tough that when you win, the complain. Because I thought the ultimate goal was to win. And. And I get his point that, look, I'm a number one receiver. You paid me money. You traded for me to come here. Okay? Treat me like that and throw me the ball.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, I got a question.

[Ocho]

Yes.

[Uncle Nocho]

You know the Eagles defense gave up, you know how many yards last week?

[Ocho]

I do.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah. A whole lot. Goddamn defense. One of. One of the few games. One of the few games all year long. Finally that damn collapsed.

[Ocho]

And when we needed the offense to pick us up, what happened?

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah, they ain't show up on.

[Ocho]

I keep telling people, I said, look, whatever your best. Whatever your best unit is, they're gonna have an off Sunday or two. The question is, can the other unit that's not as strong, can you pick them up? There were a couple of games in the regular season in 2000, our defense didn't look like the defense that we had no income and love. Offense had to pick it up. We picked it up against Jacksonville. We ended up winning. 39, I think 39, 33. 39, 36, something like that. And we ended up. It was a close game against the jets, the last game of the season. But at times it's those types of. Those happen. Yeah. But like you said, for the better part of three months, the defense had been sensational, has been stalwart, awesome. And the offense. Okay, man, we ain't got it today. Come on, A.J. come on, Saquon. Come on, Jalen. Come on, Devonte.

[Uncle Nocho]

So.

[Ocho]

It'S hard for any unit to be up here.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Get another example. The super bowl with Tom Brady.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

They have been scoring all those points. They scored more points than anybody else in NFL history up until that point. And the one game they couldn't get that. What do they need the defense to do? Ocho, Lock them down.

[Uncle Nocho]

Lock them down.

[Ocho]

We got the lead. Just keep them out the end zone, Right. We kick a field, they kick a field goal. We go all the time. We might win the top blue, go down school, boom. Happens sometimes. Sometimes it happens that way where the unit that's not as strong or hasn't been as statistically strong during the regular season, we need them. Come pull us through for a couple of games. Don't, Joe.

[Uncle Nocho]

Right.

[Ocho]

Happens sometimes. It. It. It's tough. It. It's really tough.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, does it get. Does it get any easier for the Eagles? Who. Who.

[Ocho]

Who they got Sunday night game against. Against the. Oh, they.

[Uncle Nocho]

Oh, my God.

[Ocho]

And the Chargers defense. They. Hey, Khil Mack.

[Uncle Nocho]

The.

[Ocho]

Some. I forget his name. 45. They can put pressure on your quarterback.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, Dir. Let me see. Derwin. We got James.

[Ocho]

Yeah. They got Henley. They got Henley.

[Uncle Nocho]

Nice.

[Ocho]

Khil Mac. They're collapsing the pocket. They can run.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Now we're gonna see Justin Herbert had surgery today on that hand. Yeah. They say he's day by day. They'll know more later in the week whether or not he's going to play. They got no. I don't know if they have good a chance. They're gonna have a winning if Trey Lance is the quarterback, but hey.

[Uncle Nocho]

Damn, man.

[Ocho]

You can't. You can. You can't. You can't force your defense because think about it. Oo. How many plays that defense played?

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

On Thursday. Oh, Fri. Excuse me. Friday. Friday they play. Friday, they play Black Friday. So. Hey, guys. Hey.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey.

[Ocho]

Today we ain't got it. Y' all better be getting it. Cause we ain't got it either. But it's tough. It's. It's. It's tough. Yeah, it's tough because when you. The guy, you know, people don't look, but. Hey, how many balls you catch today, man? I ain't catching. 3. Damn. What happened to you, man? They throw me the ball. What the hell you mean, what happened to me? So it's. It's tough. It's tough.

[Uncle Nocho]

It's a few. It's a few teams, you know, in. In. In some issues and troubles with their seasons. You know, right now, where it's. It's. It's looking dim, it's looking dark. The Chiefs is another one. They. They. They. They got to get it together.

[Ocho]

Oh, they got without or.

[Uncle Nocho]

They got to get it together?

[Ocho]

Oh, Joe, I remember. Look, let me tell you. I was. I remember when I first got the undisputed. And they. They was like, man, skip be doing all. Man, you Skip talk all the time. I say, I don't get paid by the word. I get paid by the day, right? So long as I show up, I'm gonna make the same money, right? When I was at cbs, you know, we had all those people on the panel. You might get a. First of all, it's an hour show. You got a host, and you got four other guys sitting up there. Yeah. So by the time they get to you, hey, sometime I have, like, three minutes. All I know, that direct deposit hit. I got paid by the date. So I. I ain't complaining about no talk time because they don't play me. Pay me by the word, Right? They pay me by the word. And I'm trying to get it. I'm talking over everybody. I ain't gonna be. Hey, I ain't gonna hold you to that. I'm talking over everybody. Let me get. Hey, let me get my quote in right?

[Uncle Nocho]

But.

[Ocho]

But I get it. I, I, I, I get. You know, part of me do empathize with A.J. he's, like, in his prime, and, you know, he knows. He's like, man, I know what y' all gonna do. Y' all ain't gonna look at last year. They're gonna look at this year. Cause y' all gonna say, I got a year older. I'm getting closer to 30. And you know, when they get 30, it's normally the cut off.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah. You know how they. They play. You know how they play. You know how they play with you.

[Ocho]

So, aj, All I can say is just, bro, just go out there and just keep playing. Hey, just keep fighting hard. Just keep playing. Just try to stay positive as you possibly can. You know, pick up Hertz when you can.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. Philly fans. Philly fans. Come on, man. You, you. I love y', all, man. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. Don't do the coach house like that, man. Don't do his house like that. Don't do it like that. Hey, now watch, watch. Patula gonna go out there, man. Jalen gonna throw for about 500 yards, man.

[Ocho]

Well, that right tackle better pick it up because Khalil Mack ain't bull jabbing. Oh, y'. All the biggest social media debate of the day stem from Odell Beckham Jr. Talking about the struggles of $100 million contract and how money doesn't last forever, he said. And I always explained to people like this, like, bro, you give somebody five years, a hundred million dollar contract, right? What is it really? It's like five years, 60 million, you're getting tax. Do the math. That's 12 million a year. You know that you have to spend, you have to use, save, invest, flaunt. I don't know, probably should have left that flood out there. But go ahead.

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[Ocho]

Let me start by saying it's a.

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[Uncle Nocho]

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[Ocho]

OJ this is the Odell talking. Just be real. I'm going to buy a car, I'm going to give my mom a house. Everything costs money. So if you're spending 4 million a year, what is that really? That's 40 million over five years. That's 8 million a year. That's a five year span and you're getting 8 million. Can you make it last forever? And you always hear people who ain't us and ain't been in that position, like, oh, well, that would last a lifetime. Obj, I'm gonna be honest with you, bro. If you get $60 million liquid and that can't last you a lifetime, you got, you got, you got some. You got a problem.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hold on, wait, hold on, hold on. Let's, let's. Before you go on.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Nocho]

Think about all the lottery winners, right?

[Ocho]

Yes.

[Uncle Nocho]

They all, they all went broke.

[Ocho]

Yes. Because what, because think about what, what, what did he say? Well, he, he put something in there at the end. What he said, you spin.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Use, save, invest, flaunt.

[Uncle Nocho]

Right?

[Ocho]

Ocho?

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Do you. Now do you really need 10 houses?

[Uncle Nocho]

Damn.

[Ocho]

Do you really need 15 cars?

[Uncle Nocho]

No.

[Ocho]

Do you need, do you need to buy everybody in your house, Everybody in your family? Imagine that cost a million, $2 million? Because here's the thing.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Something. First of all, if you buy somebody in your house, your family, a house, a, a, a house that cost a million to $2 million, first of all, they can't afford the upkeep on it because if they could, they'd have it already. See, it ain't the payment, it's the upkeep.

[Uncle Nocho]

Right?

[Ocho]

Ish. Go wrong. So now you buy somebody, a Mercedes, you buy somebody Ferrari, you brought somebody a high end car.

[Uncle Nocho]

God damn.

[Ocho]

Now you got. Now you said, okay, I bought you this, you got to hit the upkeep.

[Uncle Nocho]

Right.

[Ocho]

Something happened to it. Tago Flat. Who they call in Ocho?

[Uncle Nocho]

You. You.

[Ocho]

So that's the thing.

[Uncle Nocho]

But I have a question for better context for me, is, is he just speaking hypothetically? He's not talking about his personal situation.

[Ocho]

And I always explain to people like, bro, you give somebody five years, $100 million, what is that really? It's like five years, 60. You're getting taxed. Yes. $60 million. Okay. You buy you a house now you're not buying a house every year. I don't, I don't think. No, but here's the thing.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yes.

[Ocho]

Bro. Bro say he's spending 4 million a year. If you spending 4 million a year and it ain't a business related. You out your damn mind. Ain't no way in hell I'm spending 4 million a year.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, that, hey, that's a lot of money there, boy.

[Odoo Representative]

Yes.

[Ocho]

And you know, let's just say, Ocho, you buy a house. Let's just say you buy a house, a house that costs $5 billion. Yeah. You 3, 5%. I don't know what Your interest rate is. That's probably. If you just play an interest only loan, you're probably playing on 4 to 4 million. Somewhere between 20 and 25, $30,000 a month. That's on your place. That costs 4 to 5 million dollars, right? Okay. You buy mom a house. If I were to buy mom a house, I'm. Damn. They're gonna probably get her a house that I can go ahead and pay off. So I'm spend a half a million dollars for mom because I got to get her something that she can clean for herself. Because I can't play for a cleaner, sir. Because, see, that's another expense, Ocho.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yes, it is.

[Ocho]

Get a pool in the yard, Ocho. Guess what? You got to have it cleaned every week. Oh, sure. That's another experience.

[Uncle Nocho]

Don't make an expense.

[Ocho]

Yeah, you get a big ass house, somebody cut the grass. I don't need. I need somebody to come with a pushing lawnmower and cut the grass.

[Uncle Nocho]

That's another.

[Ocho]

That's another expense on me, Ojo.

[Uncle Nocho]

I don't, I don't. I don't think. I don't think players actually factor that stuff in when the money's coming in because it's coming in so fast and it comes in a huge chunks.

[Ocho]

Yes, you.

[Uncle Nocho]

Everyone doesn't factor. Everyone doesn't have that financial savviness or that financial discipline to think long term. That's the. That's one of the few things I was really good at while I was playing. When it huge chunks of money was coming in, I was thinking long term. But I also had the goddamn financial discipline to understand that flaunting and being flashy wasn't my identity. My name, just my name. The name, the brand itself was just as big as anything else I could purchase. You, you're not. Understand, you're not hearing me. The name itself was just as big as anything else I could purchase. So I can go anywhere and say, oh, that's a Ferrari with that same place that Ferrari go. Oh, they go, Ocho. So it was no need for me to drive a Ferrari because everybody know they already knew who I was.

[Ocho]

You know what system, okay, if you want to Lisa Ferrari for a year to say, you know what?

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah, it's okay, but.

[Ocho]

But I ain't been to get no Ferrari. Didn't get a Lambo. Well, here's the thing, Ocho. Let me see what he didn't tell you how it adds up. Flying private. Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, uncle go crazy. Hold on now. You be flying private too. Now I Didn't see you with your feet kicked up. Eating. Eating, Popeyes, you know?

[Ocho]

Yes.

[Uncle Nocho]

Now you see why I fly spirit.

[Ocho]

The past 20 years, Ocho, but I don't fly everywhere private. I don't go overseas. Private. You're talking about. You're talking about anywhere from between 10 and 20,000 an hour. If you fly overseas, how long is it going to take you to get.

[Uncle Nocho]

To London, come back. Wait, bring that back. Bring that back around. Did you just hop an hour or the whole trip?

[Ocho]

An hour.

[Uncle Nocho]

They gonna charge you about an hour to go. To go overseas?

[Ocho]

Yes.

[Uncle Nocho]

Oh, heck.

[Ocho]

So if you go overseas, guess what, Ocho? You flying back cross. So that might be a $400,000 trip just like that. Maybe a million. How far are you going?

[Uncle Nocho]

Oh, man. Okay, now, here. Well, hold on. Time out, man. If it costs that much, would all these people be doing on Instagrams where they always fly in private? Then people ain't making that money flossing. Hey, see, I. Listen, I. I don't know. I just know my.

[Ocho]

Kids. You pay child support, you mess around and get the wrong one. And she charged you 20. You gotta pay you in California. Oh, it's 20, 25, 30, 40, 50, 000amonth. 50,000amonth. Times 12. Times 18. How much is that, Ocho?

[Uncle Nocho]

I ain't good at 600.

[Odoo Representative]

So.

[Ocho]

50,000. Let's just say, for the sake of argument, let's take a round, even number, because everybody like round numbers.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Let's just say you paying 20,000. 20,000amonth.

[Uncle Nocho]

Okay.

[Ocho]

Times 12, that's 240,000.

[Uncle Nocho]

Okay.

[Ocho]

A year.

[Uncle Nocho]

Okay.

[Ocho]

Times 10, that's 2.4 million. Okay, now we add 8 more to that.

[Uncle Nocho]

Huh?

[Ocho]

You see where. You see where it went to? Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Nocho]

I don't like that.

[Ocho]

So you about. You. You about 3.8. You about 3. $3.6 million. $3.8 million. That's one child. Oh, now imagine. Imagine you got 1, 2, 3, 4.

[Uncle Nocho]

I do, I do. I got a lot of them.

[Ocho]

I do. Thing that you did that was in Florida, See, in California, Ricky Cross the code.

[Uncle Nocho]

But it. It also, also, also, I had kids from people that really wasn't. They weren't on that because they understood. They understood it was about the child. So for those of you I had that have kids for me, I thank you. You know, I. I love you because we was on the same page and you weren't vindictive. You understood. I was always present. I appreciate y'.

[Ocho]

All.

[Uncle Nocho]

Because them numbers you just ran off, I ain't never had to deal with nothing like that.

[Odoo Representative]

Damn.

[Ocho]

Oo. What if you got a main girl and we got a side chick and you want to keep that on the hush, you got to get.

[Uncle Nocho]

Oh, you got to pay hush money.

[Ocho]

Hey, I know you with me when I'm right.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, but hold on. You know the kind of money you got to make to be able to have a. Have, have. Have a woman on the side and be able to keep it quiet and keep her happy? Yes, we got to make a lot of money and it go fast, huh?

[Ocho]

But phobia, if, like I said, Ocho, if you got a business, you running a business. Businesses cost because you have employees, right? You gotta pay. You got to pay for insurance and you got to pay. Yeah. Overhead and all that other stuff, so. I understand that, but if. Yo, yo. Yearly expenses and you ain't got no business and you spending 4 million, man, you at your. Look here, you need to be bezos and I need to be.

[Uncle Nocho]

Oh.

[Ocho]

Oo. For me to spend 4 million a year, I need to be making 50 million a year.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

60 million a year. Not no, not no. 60, like no $100 million contract. I need to be you. I need to be making LeBron James type money. 120 a year.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah. God damn.

[Ocho]

Oh, you know you got full time security. You know, you like LeBron, he got full time security for him in Savannah, right? These entertainers like Beyonce and hov. Okay, you got a full time security detail. That's a couple of million dollars a year because they 20. You got 24 hour security.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, hey, I'm, I'm. Hey, hey, you think, hey, when we, when we get famous. Famous, you think we gonna need security?

[Ocho]

I'm not gonna need security. I don't, I don't, I'm not. I don't. For me, I hope. I can't say I'm not, but I hope I don't because I, I'm just. I don't really go anywhere.

[Uncle Nocho]

Right? No, hold on, hold on. We finna be hanging out though.

[Ocho]

Hanging out where?

[Uncle Nocho]

Me and you like, like when we get famous. Famous, boy. Hey, people need to see us. We ain't going to be in that.

[Ocho]

Look at Ocho.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hold on. Hey, you know what? You ain't got to pay none. You could take. You know what? Just take it out my check, right? Take it out my check. Just add me. Add me extra 1%. I got my. I got my. I got my, My concealed weapon.

[Ocho]

Lights my concealed weapon too, but I ain't trying. Oh, I. I Know I'm gonna let somebody else if I have some. No, no, no, no, no.

[Uncle Nocho]

That's the added expense. You can use me. Hey, hey, y'. All, I keep right here on my hip right here, like this. Right here. Hey, hey. They won't play with you.

[Ocho]

Most of the time. Most security. Most security got two.

[Uncle Nocho]

Huh?

[Ocho]

They got an ankle holster and a side holster.

[Uncle Nocho]

Oh, yeah, I got a little 22. It'd be in my ankle. I got a little. 22.

[Ocho]

It being my boots right now. I'm like on a three year plan about a two year plan. Two year plan. No, come on. Don't.

[Uncle Nocho]

Don't start that now.

[Ocho]

Hey, I'm like punk's attorney field. I saw my shadow. I got to go back inside.

[Uncle Nocho]

Nah, don't. Don't do that. Don't do that. Hey, listen, one thing about it. Tomorrow is not promised. Tomorrow is not promised. So what you need to do is while you're here now, you need to live. You need to live.

[Ocho]

To be honest, I've never been one of those guys that like to hang out. I've never been there.

[Uncle Nocho]

I don't go nowhere either. I'm never outside.

[Ocho]

You're always outside, Ocho. Where, work, everywhere.

[Uncle Nocho]

You talk about working.

[Ocho]

I'm not. I'm not like that.

[Uncle Nocho]

I don't go nowhere. I don't go nowhere.

[Ocho]

Let me. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go eat and I'm going back home. That's where I want to be.

[Uncle Nocho]

That. That's me. That's me. Not. I will go to a jazz club. I go to the cigar bar. And that's the extent of where I go now. I might go listen to some. Some live music now. You know I love me some live music.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I do. I know.

[Uncle Nocho]

That's me. That's up my alley. But we need. God damn it. Hold on.

[Ocho]

Hold over. That's. I mean, $4 million a year, Chad, That's a. That's a lot of chat. That's 400, 000amonth.

[Uncle Nocho]

I don't think that. Hey, I think he was just. I was. I think he was just giving.

[Ocho]

No, he said everything costs. So if you're spending 4 million a year. But I'm saying. Ocho, do you know. I mean, for you to spend 4 million a year, you need to be making. You probably need to be making 50 million a year.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah, that's why. That's why I think he wouldn't talk about himself. I think he was just using it as. As an example of people.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle Nocho]

On on how they spend, because, hey, that is. That's egregious.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's 60. 60 million liquid. Hey, 60 million I got. You got $60 million liquid ocho. Let's just say if you. If you just invest conservative. Ocho, right? It's gonna pay you 5 to 8%. Yeah, 5 to 8%. Go. Pay you 4 million a year, and you never lose the principal. So you can live off that.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah. And, you know, it's funny, a lot of people that always say, oh, if I had that much money, if I had that much money, oh, I last forever. But. But the devil is a lie, because you get that kind of money, you will be a totally different person if you don't. If you don't. If you don't. Hey, if you don't have discipline with the little that you do have now.

[Ocho]

You're right. You're right.

[Uncle Nocho]

And you get that kind of money.

[Ocho]

You right, man.

[Uncle Nocho]

Listen. Hey, I. I thank my grandma. I thank my grandma, my grandfather, and they wanted what. They're one of the few reasons why I was able to make so much and not live as if I was making millions. And it was easy because it didn't. It wasn't my identity. It never became my identity, or I didn't get caught in that image, or I'm making mans, so I have to look like it now every so. Every so often. One, two, three. You know, one, two, maybe three times.

[Ocho]

You treat yourself, you get yourself a watch.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, people, you know, they. They love making fun of me, you know, but, you know, it's. Listen, man, I'm going. I'm going 30 years strong, man. Still living the same lifestyle I was before I started playing. Still living the same lifestyle Every time, you know, every blue moon, you know, I. I turn up.

[Ocho]

You got to. You got to.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Guess what? You leave all that money here, they gonna spend it. They ain't gonna hoard it like you do.

[Odoo Representative]

It.

[Ocho]

I already know about. Hey, my kids might stop working and be right. Working. In two years, everybody gonna be gone. Cause they don't. They don't. They don't look at money like I do. But I. I'm very fortunate. Like my sister. Hey, like, hey, I was like, you know, I tried to get a new car. She like, nah, ain't nothing wrong with this one, right? Say, for what I do right around here, I'm good. I got my mom a car. Got my. My brother a car a couple years ago. Got my son a car, my daughter car. Yeah, they good. Like I told Him. Santa Claus got laid off. Damn.

[Uncle Nocho]

I'm seeing you at 5900. Don't worry about it. You're gonna be good. You can get.

[Ocho]

Get them.

[Uncle Nocho]

Get him a little. Little Range Rover. Little Range Rover. 20, you know, five. I mean, whoever, whoever need a car?

[Ocho]

No, no, no, no, no. They're good on cars.

[Uncle Nocho]

You sure?

[Ocho]

Yeah. My Range Rover. Look, I got a. My range rover got 40, 000 miles. Just got for. Just turned. 40,000 miles, right? It's 13 years old.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, Unc, it's. You need to treat yourself.

[Ocho]

I did to what. I told you. When we go, when we take off. I'm going on vacation, man, that's not treating yourself, man. It is.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, you know what you should do, Unc?

[Ocho]

What?

[Uncle Nocho]

You should get yourself a sports car.

[Ocho]

Ocho, it's hard enough for me getting in and out with my hips like they are. I ain't getting no sports car.

[Uncle Nocho]

Nah, you. I think, hey, I think. I think for my birthday, I think I'm gonna get a McLaren.

[Ocho]

I mean, if you'd have called me last year, I'd have got me a McSharon. I can't get no that what I would have got me. But right now. Ojo.

[Uncle Nocho]

Uhuh.

[Ocho]

Right now I want you. Your boy. Your boy. Your boy do it bad. Your boy do it bad.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, let me tell you something. You ain't never doing bad. When you wake up and you open them eyes and you allowed the opportunity to see another day. You doing good. Always, man. Come on, man. God damn. Now, I didn't pay. I didn't Pay this man. 350 to fix this issue and it's still doing this.

[Ocho]

Well, clearly he ain't fix it.

[Uncle Nocho]

Why need my money back.

[Ocho]

But nah, it's, it's tough like, like you said, Ocho, when you get money and then, you know, you want to help people. You know, you want to make sure your family's taken care of. Yeah, but don't, don't get, don't get crazy reckless with it. My two homeboys are always, you know, I always look out for them because I, you know, in my homeboys, I know if the shoe was on the other foot.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

And I called him.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yes, sir.

[Ocho]

They come through the clutch. Hey, it's always, it's always been like me and my brother. It's always. It was never. I got. He got. He went to the NFL. Hey, bro, we made it. When I went to the hall of Fame, bro, we in the hall. It's always been. It's, it's only been three of us. Yeah, we're very, very close. Very, very close. And I got. They got. Yeah, yeah, I got. They got. And that's. That's how it's always gonna be.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

But, yeah, man, $4 million a year. You need to be making 50 bands a year to spend that kind of money.

[Uncle Nocho]

That's crazy.

[Ocho]

I mean, 400,000, think about that's 400, 000amonth, right?

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, you know, and you know what I think about too long is, is Instagram and social media has everybody's so fooled.

[Ocho]

It does. It. Does everybody.

[Uncle Nocho]

They have no, no understanding of money. And, and they really think people are really living these lifestyles like that. It's impossible. It's impossible to live the lifestyle that the people put up consistently day to day to day. It. I. Oh, you under. You know what? I. I can't even get it out. I can't even get out because I understand how much it takes to be able to do some of the things that I'm seeing on Instagram. And I like, there ain't no way.

[Ocho]

You ain't gonna tell me nothing. I know there ain't no way.

[Uncle Nocho]

It's impossible. It's impossible. But I mean, and then the fact that it's, it's everybody's identity, it's. Everybody's image is looking like I'm rich or looking like I'm got it. Like, for what I. I. For what? Because the people that I'm talking about, the ones that really do, until I really got it for real, man, you wouldn't be able to tell. Yeah, you wouldn't even be able to tell.

[Ocho]

Ocho, if you notice now more people like, like Tom Brady. Tom is really big into watches.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah. Him and Jay Z.

[Ocho]

You see hard. And you see a lot of these guys, a lot of these guys in the. The lp, Jordan, the Pateks, or the ap. The Richard Mille.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

I mean, they're in. The Vacherons. They're. They're in the. I mean, the watch is like. Okay. Because. Okay, just say, for the sake of argument, Ocho, you got that kind of money and you spend 25, 30, $40 million for a house, and you got all the cars that you can possibly want. I mean.

[Uncle Nocho]

What.

[Ocho]

I mean, me, I don't want a house that big. I mean, I mean, my house is probably too big as it is now, considering I'm in two rooms, the kitchen and the bedroom. Yeah.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, but it may happen. How big? That you got a palace over there like Joe?

[Ocho]

No, hell, no, but what you.

[Uncle Nocho]

What you would like 15, 000 square feet, man, please.

[Ocho]

Nah, about 75. Eight.

[Uncle Nocho]

God damn.

[Ocho]

Well, you got 12.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey. Oh, boy, you.

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[Uncle Nocho]

Oh, you over the a, boy. You in what, 75, 8,000. Was that about 12 bedroom, man, you got. Hey, you got a golf course?

[Ocho]

You gotta.

[Uncle Nocho]

You gotta golf course back there?

[Ocho]

Nope.

[Uncle Nocho]

Okay.

[Ocho]

I used to live on the golf course when I was in Baltimore.

[Uncle Nocho]

But you bit. Hey, hey, hey, you showing off the night. What you showing off? Stand on the golf course.

[Ocho]

I ain't still on no golf course.

[Uncle Nocho]

I'm just saying. But you did. You say you did.

[Ocho]

I did, yeah.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah, that. That's. That's rich people that the royal family, they stay on the golf course.

[Ocho]

It wasn't, it wasn't. It wasn't that developed back then, right? And so I got it at a good deal, and then like, I sold it. The housing market was going right here. So yes, sir, I sold it for like a 70,000. I mean, when I put in, I sold it for like 70,000 over what I was asking.

[Uncle Nocho]

Okay, okay.

[Ocho]

But nah, like I said, I got this. I mean, three. I'm in two rooms. I mean, I got this entertainment room, you know, it's really nice, man. I'm like. Yeah, that would require me to walk downstairs.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah, I remember the entertainment room because I had to pass by that. I had to pass. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

Oh, Possibly the craziest story this week. Frank Ragnow, he came out of retirement to try to save the lions, only to fail his physical because he showed up with a grade three hamstring. Hamstring strain. Let me say that again. A grade three hamstring.

[Uncle Nocho]

Well, you know how bad that is?

[Ocho]

It's torn out the bone. He gotta have surgery. What the hell he walking around with his hamstring torn out the bone?

[Uncle Nocho]

Ocho, what the hell was he doing while he was home?

[Ocho]

I just try to figure out how you not know your hamstring not torn.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, but you. It must not have bothered him. Well, hell, if he. If he got a chance.

[Ocho]

No, it ain't gonna bother you if you probably just walking. But just imagine you try when you start having.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

And try to move somebody, you gotta buckle down.

[Uncle Nocho]

Well, hold on. If he. If he got an opportunity to come back, I mean, well, shoot, man. All right, all right. You know what? Enough is enough. I'm go to my laptop camera. I'm sick of this.

[Ocho]

Okay. Elgato.

[Uncle Nocho]

All right. There we go. I'm going to the laptop. Hey, well, listen, if he got the opportunity to come back, man, I might as well put my. Put my name in the hat to come back.

[Ocho]

No, he just retired after last season.

[Uncle Nocho]

Well, I ain't even retired yet. I ain't put my papers in.

[Ocho]

You ain't got to. It's been 15 years. You done.

[Uncle Nocho]

You never know when the opportunity might present itself.

[Ocho]

It ain't gonna present itself.

[Uncle Nocho]

You never know. I might get. I might get a call. Yeah.

[Ocho]

From one of your kids. Say, daddy, can you send me some money? Ojo. The Vikings waved Adam feeling today, one day after he was a healthy scratch in the team's 26 nothing loss to the Seahawks. Yeah. He said in a statement posted on social media that he long ago decided that 2025 would be his final season and that he had hoped to find a new home to go compete elsewhere. For the last few weeks of my career.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, he. He asked for his release because he would like to go to a contender, and obviously, wherever he goes, he wants to be.

[Ocho]

He was on what, the Carolina Panthers?

[Uncle Nocho]

You know what? He didn't even know it. Hey, I don't even think he knew it. I don't. I don't think he listened to the podcast. I don't think Adam Thielen heard me in August, that I remember the exact date. August 25, 2025. I said it about 10:55pm I talked about how good the Carolina Pandas would be, and I don't think he got the memo.

[Odoo Representative]

Damn.

[Uncle Nocho]

Now that I think about it, well, yeah, you can't. You can't go back there because everybody over there cooking. I mean, what team. What team that's a contender this year?

[Ocho]

I don't know. The team that's a contender looking for another receiver.

[Uncle Nocho]

Damn, that's a good one.

[Ocho]

I mean, they might. Like I said, Ocho, I mean, we'd have to go. We have to look at the teams. I mean, that would be something that we'd have to look at. Like, okay, Ocho, we just throw out the team, the Broncos and X, Y and Z, you know, the Patriots and this team and that Jacksonville, possibly Texas and maybe the Ravens, and go like, okay, who could use a. Basically a fourth receiver, right?

[Uncle Nocho]

Damn. And the fact that even. The fact. It doesn't even sound right. Adam Thielen being the fourth receiver, like, I. I just remember him and goddamn Diggs cooking not too long ago in Minnesota. I mean, cutting up. It's crazy. It's crazy what age does to you, man, or the business in general as you get older, the way the system just works you out.

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[Ocho]

Damn Ocho. Aiden Ross drew criticism over the weekend after admitting on a live stream that he uses the N word when listening to music. He said, I'm not gonna lie to you guys. I'm not fake. Whenever I listen to rap music, there are times I say it, but I'm not saying it on the stream. Like I have rap songs before saying the N word. I'm not a hoo ha. And I tell you guys that. Then he double down. I'm just saying, I'm pretty sure everyone effing says it. Let's be real here. Look, I ain't, I ain't in his home. What he says and when he's. I'm sure there are a lot of other people of the opposite race that says that word with their rapping songs, I'm sure.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah, well, absolutely.

[Ocho]

And when you in your own home now, you might get 5 slapped after you on the street talking, you know, you rapping that, that might be a different story.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, if. If we were a fly on the wall and some of the homes of people and hear some of the things that they said. Yeah, we'd be surprised. Well, I wouldn't be surprised, but I'm just saying people would be surprised. The fact that you have words where that word is used all the time and everybody raps it.

[Ocho]

But why did he feel the needle to share that? Okay, you do that. That's in the privacy of your own home. Why do you feel the need to.

[Uncle Nocho]

Share that he's a content creator. That's the whole point of what they do. They create content. They create controversy, they create turmoil. Sharing everything. That. That's exactly. We. We talking about it. That. That's. That's their goal. And he's one of the better streamers, if I'm not mistaken. You know, in.

[Ocho]

In. In.

[Uncle Nocho]

In the world.

[Ocho]

But, you know, they got. They ain't got. They got no problem saying those words that are offensive to black people. But there are some other words that's offensive to other people. They don't never utter those. You notice that, Ocho?

[Uncle Nocho]

Like what? Like the N word.

[Ocho]

Nah, I'm. Like I said. But there's some other words in chat. Y' all know the words I'm talking about. That. That's another community. But they never say that. Why they don't rap those. Why aren't they rap songs? It's the same thing with my. My people. Won't y' all wrap that up? The other stuff.

[Odoo Representative]

Mm.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, which community you talking about? Skittles?

[Ocho]

Nah, because they'll say that too. They'll say something about the lbgtq. They'll say something about that. They'll say something. But, hey, the chat. Know what I'm talking about.

[Uncle Nocho]

Damn, now you got me lost, too. But I only know. I only know about two communities.

[Ocho]

Nah, this is the most powerful community in the world.

[Uncle Nocho]

The Skittles community is the most powerful.

[Ocho]

It's not. There's another country that has a white and blue flag with a star on it. No, it's not. It's not even close.

[Uncle Nocho]

Oh, they own every damn thing.

[Ocho]

Exactly. Yeah, well, I bet. Why don't you say something about derogatory about that? Why he don't rap that he want to create content. You told me a content creator. Hey, create some content.

[Uncle Nocho]

They own. They own everything, bro. You hear me? Behind it. Behind every. Boy, if you was to peel back the layers. Yeah, man, I. I'm. Leave that alone.

[Ocho]

That's all I'm saying. See, people ain't got. People don't have no problem saying that. But, boy, that's not the here nor there. I'm just. Look, I let people. Hey, do your thing. I. I don't. I don't know. I don't know him. I'm not around him. Do you, bro? Do you?

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, honestly, little do you know, that's our competitor now.

[Ocho]

Who?

[Uncle Nocho]

Aiden Ross Kai ddg. Because once we start filming our content out there going crazy, like, we gonna outdo all them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chat Y', all. But y' all chat. Y' all better get ready. Telling you.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, I. I get. I get what you guys are saying. Say he's Jewish, but why don't he use that Jewish. That derogatory term? I mean, we speak to one another like that. Why don't he use that? Why don't he use that? That's all I'm saying. Everybody, look. No matter the community, there's a derogatory term that will describe said community. It doesn't matter the community, but there is a derogatory term. But it's funny how they pick and choose. It's always that. That word. Oh, it's just a word. So is that one, right? And so is that one. And so is that one. But I find it. I find it funny. But nobody ever uses it.

[Uncle Nocho]

Huh?

[Ocho]

Interesting. Also find it interesting. Nobody's ever put it in the song. They don't talk about it in the movies. They don't say none of that. How many times they use it in Django.

[Uncle Nocho]

Oh, my goodness. Boy, Django. Boy, Django were crazy, right? Every. Every two. If I had a dollar for every time you heard it in Django, I got no problem.

[Ocho]

I love Django. Jamie Fox was sensational. Yeah, he was unbelievable. Leonardo DiCaprio was great. What was the guy name?

[Uncle Nocho]

Kristo. Wal. Kristo.

[Ocho]

Unbelievable. He was greater than Glorious Bastards also.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yes.

[Ocho]

I got. Hey.

[Uncle Nocho]

Great movie. Great movie.

[Ocho]

I remember. I'm old enough to remember when Jesse Jackson was running for president and he said something he called New York. He called it a derogatory term. Had to apologize. Michael Jackson used the term once upon a time. Had to apo.

[Uncle Nocho]

Michael.

[Ocho]

Let's move on, Ocho. Let's move on. We don't need to spend no more time on it.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah, I know about it.

[Ocho]

Our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey. Hey. We getting off a little early.

[Ocho]

You heard me, huh?

[Uncle Nocho]

We getting off a little early.

[Ocho]

Nah, we ain't getting up early. I have the Kemper. Norwood Jr. Said, I have the Broncos going all the way to the super bowl. Ten years later and winning it. Kemper. They did win Super Bowl 50. This is Super Bowl 60. You're gonna have to. Offense is gonna have. Offense is gonna have to become a little bit more consistent. No, not a little bit. A lot more consistent. I think the defense had an off game, but the offense is going to have to be way more consistent. What they've been. They have the fifth most punts. Think about it, Ocho. They're ten and two.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

With the fifth most punts.

[Uncle Nocho]

Punts. Yeah. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Only Cleveland. Think about it. Only Cleveland.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Hold on. Cleveland. What? The other. And now Philly. I think the Raiders, the Titans, now the Broncos.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah. And don't quote me. Don't quote me. I might be wrong, I might be right. But I think. I think Bo Nix is only thrown for 300 yard games twice this season. Only two 300 yard games, if I'm not mistaken.

[Ocho]

I am. Because. How about them Patriots? I'm stamping it now. We winning out on the road to the Super Bowl. Comes through New England. I. I don't know your schedule off the top of my head. I'm.

[Odoo Representative]

Because.

[Ocho]

But y' all look good. Y' all look really, really good. Yeah, because I'm not gonna lie, bro. Offensively, special teams, the one thing I know about the Patriots, when Coach Belichick was there, they're gonna win the special. They're gonna win the special teams battle.

[Uncle Nocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Ocho]

They're gonna get a punt return or kick return. They're gonna block a punt. They're gonna do something. And Vrabel. Look, I don't know how much Vrabel took from Coach Belichick. I'm sure he took something. He played with it for all those years, but he put a little bit of his pizzazz. He seems to be a lot more player friendly, but I believe you can be player friendly and be strict and have the players understand. There's a level of expectation that I have for you. There's a level of respect that needs to be shown for your teammates and everybody in this building. Yeah, I. I love raves. I played against him when he was at Pittsburgh. I played against him when he was at the Patriots and where he was supposed to be, if he's supposed. Hey, if he's supposed to be hooked, he in the hook. If he's supposed to be in the flat, he in the splat. If you're supposed to be in the curl, if you're supposed to set the edge, he's doing exactly what he was supposed to do. He was fundamentally in technique. He was sound. He was sound. But they look good. They look good. Real world facts. Young way co need to be bagging groceries, huh? Yeah, I'm gonna stay. I'm gonna. Ah, he needs me bag and grow. Yeah, but that was bad. Like I said, I have not. I've never seen somebody do that before. And all in peewee in junior high, in high school, in college. I've never seen somebody miss a ball like that.

[Uncle Nocho]

Not that bad. Don't.

[Ocho]

No, no.

[Uncle Nocho]

Will you stub your toe? Ah, no.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Don't even make the ball. Don't even get to the ball. Ben Riley. Spider spy. Doctor. Excuse me. Isaac Punce says kicks may have been canceled due to poor holds. The ball was on the ground. Yeah, it was a little. You kick it. If you. Ocho, if you kick it and the ball goes. And it doesn't go into upright, that's one thing, right? Bro, you just realized that's a meme. Do you realize you can make the Internet forever?

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Dennis Cruz, Young Hotel. Ocho the goat Patriots in five. Chris Evans, 99. 20. Mike Grable is a tremendous head coach. The fact that he took the Titans to the AFC title game with Ryan Tannehill as his quarterback really says a lot about Vrabel. I bet the Titans are still kicking themselves pride. I should have never let that man out the building. But sometimes you don't realize what you have until it's gone. We've always. We've all been in situations, and it might. Maybe it's a job, maybe it's been a relationship, and you didn't realize how important or special that person was or how much you really enjoyed that job until you was no longer there or that person was no longer in your life.

[Uncle Nocho]

Oh. Yeah.

[Ocho]

So, Ms. Patrice, Dylan Gabriel already said that. He said the backhanded remark to the news media about he's not here to put on the show or whatever. So this right on par for his wife. I tried to tell you. I told. I was. I was. I was grasping at straws. I told you what he said. But anyway, Dr. Frankie Bellamy said, ocho, make sure you get your fun code, too. No, I hid that.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, yeah, man. Uncle. You got all my. But you know what? Do me a favor, huh? I want you to hold on. You hold on to all that stuff. I got. I got to do my game room. So people complained about. They complained about my background being too bland and too plain. So y'.

[Ocho]

All.

[Uncle Nocho]

Y' all give me a minute. Y' all give me a minute. I'm gonna get this thing together. You know, I, I, I'm gonna have. I'm having a nice little trophy, like nice little shells for my trophies to go up.

[Ocho]

That'd be so nice, Ocho.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, listen, my nightcap sign is gonna be lit up. I'm. I'm. They changing it for me. I'm putting lightning. I'm putting stars all in. Yeah. I'm. Get it together. So. So I, I. Be real Professional. I'm gonna get it together until y' all gonna like this.

[Ocho]

Brandon Crow said, doesn't matter if Jerry gets open, he can't catch. Yeah.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Who said that?

[Ocho]

Brandon Crow.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, hey, Brandon Crow. Hey, see me outside in a minute.

[Ocho]

JX Chilling. Judy is a number two receiver in my church league. Damn.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah, see? Hey, AC Now, y', all, y', all, y' all start to get like, real. Real slightly disrespectful.

[Ocho]

Oh, Filthy McNasty, Eagle fan here. Another super bowl hangover. We're not playing well, but there's still time to turn it around. Question for OO, Is it the same strategy to eat the cookie as it. Eat the groceries?

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Is it the same strategy, Ocho? You eat groceries or when you eat the groceries, you eat the cookie?

[Uncle Nocho]

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Same. Same scheme, same tactics, you hear me? And then also you can add the element of surprise. Blindfolder, you hear me? Use hot sauce. You know, spice it up a little bit. Use pepper.

[Ocho]

Because you listen, y' all remember Ocho. Oh, was doing this way back when.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Doing that 15, 20 years ago.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, before Randy. Before Randy did it. Yeah, but listen, I want you. I'm gonna give you a small little bit if you got your girl at home, right? Put some. Put some salt and pepper on the bed. You hear me? Put some salt and pepper on the bed. And then do your. Your little hardens of activity on the bed with salt and pepper. There's for what? That. That's for him. That's for him. That's for him to know and for him to find out. Yes. Just a little trick. Just. Just a little trick that I learned in amateur porn. Yeah. A little salt and pepper on the bed. Boy. Hey, man. Hey. Yeah, you got. You got it. You gotta try that, boy.

[Ocho]

I'm over balcony type of guy myself. You say? Truth be told, Cali. 1, 2, 3, 4. Is Smitty a number one? I think he is. It's just because he's two next to A.J. but on most teams, he's a one. Yes, I do think Smith is a one. I mean, he could be a one.

[Uncle Nocho]

I say it all the time. I mean, Philly is one of the few teams in the NFL that have two number one receivers. Yeah, the Bengals. The other team being Dallas. And hell, we can say la Devonte. Devonte.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. O.J. they say you out there making plates. They got grocery salt and pepper.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

All you need, some bread. Have you a fish sandwich?

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, if. If it comes down to that, I mean, that.

[Ocho]

That.

[Uncle Nocho]

That's. That's. That's.

[Ocho]

I already know what that mean, but. Nah, I'm good. Good.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, I'm telling you, man. Uncle, you got to live, man. You gotta. You gotta get outside that box, bro. I'm telling you. And you, you're gonna be about 80 years old, and you're gonna reflect and think back on some of the things that you missed and could have experienced when you was younger, man. Yeah, you know, I. I listen, I. I need. I get it all out my system. I. I done it all.

[Ocho]

Edge of car. Ocho, I'm sending Sincere you in the Ravens jersey.

[Uncle Nocho]

Huh?

[Ocho]

He says she said she's sending sense of you in that Ravens jersey.

[Uncle Nocho]

Oh, no, it's cool. It's cool to send you just any Raven jersey. This is.

[Ocho]

Be well.

[Uncle Nocho]

You see what that is?

[Ocho]

This man's sick.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, hey, you see how wide my back is? What?

[Ocho]

I see that, Ocho. I saw that. Yeah.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, hey, Uncle, I've been in the gym. Why? I can't. I can't wait till I see Devo boy. But I' ma slap fire at that boy. You hear me?

[Ocho]

Crispy Lewis says OO likes to play with rocks. What that mean? OO I don't know.

[Uncle Nocho]

I ain't played with R. I ain't played with Rock since 1932. I ain't played with no rocks in a minute, boy.

[Ocho]

Eric Jordan Scott. God dang it, Ocho. Judy ain't no damn one. Come on, man. And, fellas, how many times does Jackson Dart have a legit get his head cranium knocked loose for him to learn his damn lesson? Steve Mill called it about Judy.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, I know one thing. Y'. All. Y'.

[Ocho]

All.

[Uncle Nocho]

Y' all finna stop telling me what a one is, right? Okay, now, y', all, y' all got about two more times. Just two. Two more times, and I'm gonna have to come to your doorstep.

[Ocho]

Boomer. GSX13R. What's up, Uncle Nocho? Can you say good luck to the West Point Green Wave as they play for the 14th state championship? 10 straight appearances. Yes. Good luck, West Point Green Wave. Congratulations on making it back to the state championship. 10 straight appearances, going for the 14th. Wow, that's a state championships, man.

[Uncle Nocho]

Y. Y' all good, bruh? Good luck. Good luck.

[Ocho]

OG Underscore. Thanos. Which team is more complete, Rams or Patriots?

[Uncle Nocho]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Ocho]

That's a very.

[Uncle Nocho]

I would give the. I would get the ass to the ramp because of the defense.

[Ocho]

I would get around the edge to the Rams because I think those receivers. Okay, you got Puka, you got devonte. I still, I. Look, it's gonna be close. Drake May is smack dab in the MVP discussion.

[Uncle Nocho]

Right.

[Ocho]

If I had a vote, I would still lean towards Matthew Stafford.

[Uncle Nocho]

Right.

[Ocho]

What is math? Stafford has like 30 touchdowns and two and four picks.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah. Yep. Because he just threw what he had two or three.

[Ocho]

He threw two on Sunday.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

He. 32 touchdowns, four picks.

[Uncle Nocho]

Damn. Hey, that's Aaron Rodgers. Green Bay numbers right there. In his prime.

[Ocho]

Aaron. Roger was throwing 45 and 5. 30. I mean, think about that, Ocho.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, that's crazy.

[Ocho]

Manning through 55 and 10. Brady threw 50 and 8.

[Uncle Nocho]

Oh, that's crazy.

[Ocho]

Crazy. Kaleidoscope beat. How did you enjoy your time on Long Island? I met you at Huntington meet and greet with my mom when you were at the Westbury and greet. That laportier was great. What's up, Ocho? It was great, man. I mean, I. I had really never been to Long Island. My good friend Boomer. Boomer size stays on Long Island. But it was great. I always like going and meeting people and, you know, getting the gist, you know, ask where they from, you know, here, grew up here, move back, things of that nature. But thanks for coming out. You and your mom. Chris Underscore Marshall. Real wide receivers. One Justin Jefferson, CeeDee Lamb, A.J. brown, Tyreek Hill. All change game plans, demand extra coverage and consistently take over games. Judy has never reached that tier.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, how do you reach that tier? By. By getting what?

[Ocho]

I'm king rail 47 light up. Ocho, I'll cover you. That Florida boy ain't running no RS no more. Un. No more. You better tell it. Relax. I have to pull up Miami. Do business dirty on the field. Name the place.

[Uncle Nocho]

Oo, listen, I. I know. I know you. I know you. You live in your childhood dream and you probably think you can stop me there. There is. There is no way in any lifetime that anyone in this chat or that has never played football at the highest level would be able to do with anything with me, even If I was 80 years old. Never. Get it out your head, man.

[Ocho]

I don't want you having no surgery on your hamstrings like Ragnar.

[Uncle Nocho]

So I. I would. I would never. I would never. Cuz I eat right.

[Ocho]

Kylie. 1, 2, 3, 4. Oo. Do y' all think the Chief will win out and make the playoffs? Well, that's the only option to make the playoffs. I Mean they don't have. No, they don't have. They don't have another choice.

[Uncle Nocho]

That's a tough task, though. She think they can. That's. That's tough.

[Ocho]

Cause they got. They got the Texans. They got another game. I think they got in the game against the Chargers. They got game against the Broncos. I know they got the Raiders again. I don't know who the other. The other, but I know they got those three for sure.

[Uncle Nocho]

And the funny thing about it, there was a time when the Chiefs were playing, you could damn near check. You could damn near check the boxes to win a few years ago. Whoever they was playing, if they damn near, it was a for certain win.

[Ocho]

Is Ocho the defensive line isn't the same. Chris Jones isn't the same player. Coloptus. I mean, he got that contract four years, 93 million. Does he have three sacks? Does he have four sacks? How many sacks did Kalofta say? Ocho, he. He shut it down. Shut it down.

[Uncle Nocho]

You think so? I mean, or maybe he hurt.

[Ocho]

You think he hurt Miles Garrett? I think Kaloftis has five. How many does Jones have? Three. Three. Miles Gary got more sacks than a lot of people's defensive line. That's crazy. By himself, he might have more sacks than they got in the. How many sacks did the Kansas City chief have a team?

[Uncle Nocho]

22.

[Ocho]

Miles. Gary got 19 sacks. They got 22 as a team.

[Uncle Nocho]

Miles special, man. Miles special.

[Ocho]

T.S. car wise detail said. Look at all the money Tyreek spending on just women alone. Goes fast, bro. It goes fast. You get a couple kids.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah, well, listen, you get a couple kids by the wrong person. Yeah, that. That part.

[Ocho]

It might be the right person until you get ready to leave.

[Uncle Nocho]

Well, I. Listen, I done left all of them. Ain't had no problem yet.

[Ocho]

King Pain 21. Why everyone teammates and family slandered their own quarterback? One now he's a class act. And they continue to show their true colors. It's sad sight. Honestly, bro.

[Uncle Nocho]

The nature of the beast, baby.

[Ocho]

It is. Sam Black. Oh, where's your 85 Ocho Patriots jersey? Best time to wear it now. Ocho pants are back. Oh, Joe, your team, bro.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They. They playing out. Yeah, they. They. Yeah, they good. They good. They good. They good. They good. They. They straight. They play baseballing.

[Ocho]

Btf Damon1 says you walk different with 60 million. You actually do. Well, if you ain't never had no means, you walk different if you get a million. Most people ain't. Won't ever touch a million. Not liquid Cash. Alec B504. The show will be on the road in 26. My wife and I plan our great vacation around the tour. Love you guys. Thank you, Alan. We definitely gonna be on the road in 26. Hey, boy, we got like some scouts on a new route.

[Uncle Nocho]

Boy, that thing will be jumping.

[Ocho]

You know, my probation, my. My probation period to be over.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm ready.

[Ocho]

I'm place 23, Uncle. No, Joe, can I get a birthday shout out? I just turned 30. 30 tomorrow, Fletch. Happy 30th, bro. Hey, damn, no more 20s, bro.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

So now that you grow up. Yeah.

[Uncle Nocho]

You know what that means? Knees start giving out.

[Ocho]

What?

[Uncle Nocho]

Start hurting.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Nocho]

You know, you get 30, man. You know, I mean, not. Not me. I'm just saying other people, like, they start falling apart at 30.

[Ocho]

JJ Carver, 80, said, man, young hope damn near kick me, Player. 7022, yo. Oo look at Abdul Carter issue. As a Viking fan, where do we go? Because y' all know it can be rough. Love y'. All. Respect.

[Uncle Nocho]

Shoot, there's nowhere. There is nowhere to go. You need a quarterback. Now, I'm not sure what you said.

[Ocho]

But what's Abdul Carter issue?

[Uncle Nocho]

Oh, oh, hey, being young. Being young and dumb.

[Ocho]

I just. I. I just don't get it, Ocho. You said you put that out there. A lesson learned. Yeah. Ah, o. Everything ain't for me and you to understand, bro. Queen of Topics tv. Hey, Ocho, who y' all got winning? Shador or Cam? Also, if y' all need security, I'm five' three, but I carry that five. The bad guy would never expect me. Hell no, Queen. I'm going Shador. Man, did you see that move? Miles Garrett got that. Got that sack on how he started outside and jumped clear across two guys face.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah, that was one of. One of my moves.

[Ocho]

I'm like, yeah, man, 270 pounds. 270. 75 pounds. Shouldn't move like that. Nah, I'll give that what you say.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah, it shouldn't. It shouldn't. Yeah. Miles, good. I remember. I remember. I never forget. Well, I think it was. What year was that? I think that. 20. 20. 20. 20. Twenty, 20. Yeah.

[Ocho]

What happened?

[Uncle Nocho]

Nah, I had it. Me and Miles Garrett, we got into a little tussle.

[Ocho]

What happened now?

[Uncle Nocho]

You know, he knocked over coffee and. And he kept walking instead of standing. Excuse me. So I like, like. I like hit him. I like, like hit him real quick like that.

[Ocho]

You folded it, huh? You folded him. Yeah.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Astro Report X7 Judy. Not better than Sutton or Lava. He not Fernando Romo. What's up, Uncle Nocho? Much love from the east Coast. Only broadcast show I truly watched for hours. Much appreciated. If you can shout out my team. J Mop Joe Mobsters. I guess that's Joe Mobster. Joe Mobsters. I don't know what y' all do y' all play? What y' all do y' all play? Turkey bowl? Football or basketball? What are y'? All, what's your team? What y' all do? Bro, get back at us. Jay, let us know. But we thank you for the support. We really, really appreciate that. That concludes this episode of Nightcap as the Patriots take down the Giants by the score of 33 to 15. They move to 11 and 2, which is the number one seed the AFC. The Giants fall to 2 and 11. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that, like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Ocho and I'd like to thank you for your support and your continued support. Now, if you're looking for a bottle of Shea by Laportier and you cannot find it in a state or city near you, order it online and we'll ship it directly to your door. Just head over to laportierconac.com and get your bottle shipped out. The best tasting premium BSOP cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and be safe. As a matter of fact, I got a signing here Friday and we'll get you that information Wednesday and we'll get it to you again on Thursday. Please go to my media company page on all of his platforms. That's Shay, Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. That link is pinned in the chat. It's the last few hours of Cyber Monday. Sale is going on right now. Items up to 60 off. Hey, if y' all took that pick, that four pick, parlay it cash, little 25, got your little 125 little something something. Hold you over. Might go big. We might do a 6 or 8 or even 10 parlay. Let that thing pay off. Try to get big, you know. Want my eyes to get bigger than my stomach. But thank you guys for joining us. We're off tomorrow, but we're back on Wednesday. I'm up. He's Ocho. Thank you guys for joining us again. We appreciate it. See you.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

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