Nightcap Hour 2: ONE EYED Tua LEADS Dolphins to Win + Daniel Jones or Jonathan Taylor for MVP + Andy Dalton looked like GARBAGE + CJ Stroud RETURNS to FORM

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 2

Episode Date: October 27, 2025
Featured Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (Joe/Unc), Chad "Ocho" Ochocinco
Main Theme: Breakdown and hot takes on Week 8 of the NFL season, focusing on standout performances, disappointments, and emerging MVP candidates—with the signature banter and humor the hosts are known for.

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Episode Overview

Shannon Sharpe and Ocho dive deep into the biggest NFL storylines of the week with candid analysis, playful ribbing, and their usual authenticity. They focus on remarkable player performances, front office decisions, and looming controversies. Topics include Miles Garrett's monster game for a losing Browns squad, Tua Tagovailoa's "one-eyed" win, MVP debates between Daniel Jones and Jonathan Taylor, Andy Dalton's struggles, and CJ Stroud's resurgence.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Miles Garrett's Historic Game in a Losing Effort

Timestamp: 01:46–13:25

• Performance Recap: Miles Garrett notched a career-high 5 sacks, passing Reggie White for most sacks before turning 30. Despite this, the Browns still lost by more than three points.
• Contract & Trade Chatter:
  • Ocho breaks down Garrett's strategy: “Miles Garrett understood there is no more guaranteed money on my contract. So what am I going to do?... I’m going to throw a fit to demand the trade, to force their hand.” (03:00)
  • Sharpe suggests it might be time for the Browns to trade Garrett for assets, doubting the franchise's ability to build around him: "You're not any closer to your ultimate goal with Miles Garrett than you would be without him." (05:45)
• Browns' Rebuilding Woes:
  • Both hosts are skeptical Cleveland can rebuild effectively, referencing a decades-long history of poor management.
  • “Can they build? Maybe Legos. Exactly. Toy Land.” (09:44)
• Browns Front Office & Draft Inefficiency:
  • Sharpe notes drafting is more than first-round picks—it's about hitting on the 2nd to 5th rounds.

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2. Tua Tagovailoa Plays with One Eye and Dominates

Timestamp: 16:06–21:47

• Tua Overcomes Adversity: Wakes up with a swollen-shut eye, treated with antibiotics, and still puts up 4 TDs with no turnovers in a win over Atlanta.
• Ocho Praises Tua:
  • “I like his composure… One of the ways to win that locker room back is by doing what you did today. That’s the kind of Dolphins football we looking for.” (17:02)
• Performance & Locker Room Impact:
  • Winning performance makes people forget issues in the media or locker room.
• Stat Line:
  • 20/26, 205 yards, 4 TDs, 0 INT; Jalen Waddle: 5/99/1 TD.

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3. Andy Dalton's Struggles & Falcons' Offensive Problems

Timestamp: 23:51–25:27

• Dalton Looks “Washed”:
  • “He looked more washed than the last load of laundry I did.” (24:00)
  • Poor decision-making, missing key targets, and being risk-averse as he ages.
• Game Plan & Coaching Critique: Sharpe: "I'm watching them, I’m like, did y’all practice this week or did coach just say, 'I see y’all on Sunday?' That was piss poor." (25:00)
• Falcons' Offense:
  • Bijan Robinson fumble set the tone for a blowout.

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4. Jonathan Taylor & Daniel Jones: The Running Back/Quarterback MVP Debate

Timestamp: 34:21–42:28

• Colts Dominate, Taylor Stars:
  • “Jonathan Taylor, 153 yards rushing with two rushing touchdowns and a receiving touchdown. He’s on pace for 1,800 rushing yards...” (34:21)
• Daniel Jones Redemption:
  • Arrives from NY, surprisingly shines with the Colts: “I owe Daniel Jones an apology… he’s playing unbelievable football.” (36:45)
  • Sharpe points out $14M contract guaranteed he'd start from day one.
• Comeback Player Debate:
  • “He wasn’t injured. He was just sorry.” – Shannon on Jones’ “comeback” narrative (37:01)
• Taylor’s MVP Case:
  • Ocho: “If he stays healthy, they’re gonna have to come see him.” (39:17)
  • Sharpe: “He’s on pace to break LT’s record… it’s gonna be hard to overlook somebody getting a running back putting up those numbers again.” (40:23)
• Running Back Skepticism: Cautious optimism due to past Wisconsin RB flops, but Taylor gets praised for being “better than advertised.”

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5. CJ Stroud Returns to Form, Texans Upset 49ers

Timestamp: 49:07–51:47

• Stroud’s Day: Season-high 318 yards, 2 TD; Texans double up 49ers in total yards (475–223).
• Ocho’s Impressed: "He did it without Nico Collins and everybody… He looked really good." (49:31)
• Defense Dominant: Held McCaffrey to 25 yards rushing, "getting them off the field" with strong time-of-possession.

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6. Other Notable Game Recaps & Player Takes

• Andy Dalton’s Panthers Debut:
  • “Andy Dalton is trash. Save my Panthers.” (52:52)
• Saints QB Woes:
  • Rattler and Shook both struggle; Ocho: “Can you imagine throwing the ball 51 times a game? Jesus Christ.” (53:35)
• Derrick Henry Milestone:
  • Moved past Walter Payton for 5th on all-time rushing TD list.
• Broncos Surge:
  • Now seen as legit, not pretenders—Ocho admits: “I apologize. I was wrong.” (74:40)

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7. Classic Ocho & Unc Banter

• Superstitions & Trash Talk: Ocho gets roasted as a jinx—“You bad luck, Ocho. Every game you go to, they lose.” (18:48)
• Bowling Ball Flex:
  • Sharpe flexes with custom balls; Ocho insists he doesn’t need fancy gear: "When you're great at what you do, it doesn’t matter what equipment you use." (66:09)
• MVP Picks:
  • Ocho: “I pick Danny Dimes.”
  • Sharpe: “I’d lean towards Jonathan Taylor.” (75:42)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Franchise Incompetence:

  "Maybe Legos. Exactly. Toy Land. That’s what they showed us." — Ocho & Joe (09:44)

• On Tua’s Comeback Performance:

  “Whatever you did Saturday night, do it again… make sure your eyes swell up next Sunday too.” — Ocho (18:11)

• On the State of the Falcons:

  “Did y’all practice this week or did coach just say I see y’all on Sunday?” — Joe/Sharpe (25:00)

• On the MVP Race:

  “If he stays healthy, they’re gonna have to come see him.” — Ocho on Taylor (39:17) “He was just sorry… you needed to overcome something.” — Sharpe on Daniel Jones' 'comeback' status (37:01)

• Playful Jabs:

  “He looked more washed than the last load of laundry I did.” — Joe/Sharpe on Andy Dalton (24:00) “That humble pie gonna come real quick now.” — Ocho, warning boastful Broncos fans (78:06)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Miles Garrett & Browns trade talk: 01:46 – 13:25
• Tua’s "one-eyed" win: 16:06 – 21:47
• Falcons’ struggles & Andy Dalton: 23:51 – 25:27
• Colts, Jonathan Taylor & Daniel Jones MVP: 34:21 – 42:28
• CJ Stroud’s performance: 49:07 – 51:47

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Tone & Style

The conversation is high-energy, candid, and laced with humor, sports references, and analogies. Both hosts toggle between expert analysis, player empathy, and old-school locker-room banter, ensuring the discussion is both insightful and entertaining.

Best For: Anyone who wants the raw, unfiltered scoop on NFL action mixed with honest takes and plenty of laughs.

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Quick Takeaways

• Miles Garrett may be NFL Defensive Player of the Year—but it's wasted on the Browns unless they build smarter.
• Tua shakes off adversity (and bad press) by balling out with one eye.
• The Colts are thriving with the surprising Daniel Jones–Jonathan Taylor duo, both in the MVP hunt.
• The Falcons and Panthers face QB dilemmas, while McCaffrey gets shut down by an ascending Texans team.
• The Broncos, often ridiculed, have flipped the narrative and earned respect from even their critics.
• As always, foundational success in the NFL comes down to good management, not just big stars.

For fans, this hour was a rollercoaster of takes, laughs, and straight talk—exactly what makes "Nightcap" a can't-miss part of the Club Shay Shay universe.

Transcript

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[Joe]

Had a career high five sacks today, but became the first player in NFL history to do that and lose by more than three points with his five sacks. Garrett passed Reggie White for the most sacks by a player 108.5 before turning 30. Since sacks became an official stats in 1982. Despite personal success, Miles Garrett Miles was caught being visibly upset with offensive woes on the sideline. Let's take a listen to what he had to say OO after the game.

[Ocho]

Hey, you a hot boy?

[Joe]

It doesn't get any easier each week, you ask me. So how do you feel about your performance at does the loss diminish? I feel like your performance today in August I would throw the whole performance away for a win. Ocho, I want you to explain it to me as if I was seven. So you're really gonna have to get down to it and Explain it to me as if I was a kid.

[Ocho]

I got you. Talk to me.

[Joe]

I want you to tell me, what was Miles Garrett thinking was gonna happen? Based on everything that has happened since he's been there, what has he seen from this organization that convinced him they were going to get it right?

[Ocho]

Well, you have to understand as a seven year old that you are. I'm going to explain it to you in the best way possible. Miles Garrett understood there is no more guaranteed money on my contract. So what am I going to do? Because I want a huge lump sum and I want to raise. I'm going to throw a fit. I'm going to throw a fit in wanting to get out, to demand the trade, to force their hand. Understanding there is no one else. There is no one else that can pull this off outside of me. As great as I am, they don't want to lose the asset that is me because my value is at its highest peak right now. And understanding I can get what I want by doing this. This was very strategic. It was well thought out. He understood what the Browns were. They weren't changing in one year. They're not gonna change in two years. Hell, they ain't changed in the past 35 years.

[Joe]

Correct? No, it was.

[Ocho]

You know, it's about games, about getting your bag, getting your money. That's what it's about. You know, everything the bus around it. Now, when you get in front of the media, you know, you get in front of the media, of course you're gonna see all the right things. Of course. Come on, now. That's a part of the game.

[Joe]

You're right.

[Ocho]

It's a part of the game. And that's. That's. That's what it is.

[Joe]

I agree with everything that you said. I think Miles Garrett is an outstanding football player. He seems like upstanding young man, but at this point, I don't feel sorry for him. I can't. I can't. You know what? This is what you. This is what you signed up for. Ocho. The days of Ocho. You remember, back in the day, Ocho, people like, okay, the military, Uncle Sam looking for a few good men back. Then you go train a little bit, you're like, hey, I'm gonna get that GI Bill. I would get college paid for. Now you sign up for the military, you going to fight. Oh, yeah. They got all this stuff going on around the world.

[Ocho]

You going everywhere.

[Joe]

Yeah, it ain't no. It ain't no. Just no. No. No video games. You go a couple of weekends and you have field duties and you go do. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Ocho]

All that. All. Hey. All that trying to join. All that trying to join to go get you a hellcat and get you a challenger.

[Joe]

Oh, you.

[Ocho]

Oh, you gonna earn that.

[Joe]

Oh, you heard that? Oh, you gonna.

[Ocho]

You gonna earn. You gonna earn that?

[Joe]

Now with everything that's going on around the world, it's a different time. I can't. As much as I want to, I don't feel empathy. I don't feel. I don't feel compassion for Miles, because this is what he signed up for. Yeah, this is what he signed up for. Okay. Now that you got your money, you see that? Go ahead and ask for a trade. Try to go somewhere broad that you can win.

[Ocho]

Hold on. Matter of fact, what if, as great as he is, most of the time teams listen to trade talks when it comes to players like this. Understand what the Cleveland Browns can get for a Miles Garrett right now.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Ocho]

Improve and boast of their roster, their roster for the foreseeable future. Understanding that they're not going anywhere. You're not going anywhere.

[Joe]

And he got five sacks, and they got the brakes beat off him. So it clearly it doesn't matter what he does. You're not any closer to your ultimate goal with Miles Garrett than you would be without him. So I might as well get pieces that I build, I can fill in that I believe that's going to help me get closer. Yes. I would love to be able to win a championship with Miles Garrett. But you saw today, you see his impact. He's been a defensive player of the year. He's won the award, but he's in defensive Player of the year contention every single year. And you're no closer to winning the division. You're no closer to winning, getting into the playoffs or winning a playoff game than you would be without him.

[Ocho]

I have a question, too.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Ocho]

I hate to throw this out there, and I don't mean I don't. I don't know, chat. Y' all stay with me real quick and tell me what y' all think about this Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones made some phone calls, right? He made some phone calls down in Las Vegas. Yeah, Birdie told me he made some phone calls down to Cincinnati, but both of those teams said, nah, we good.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

You think about Jerry Jones making a call on down there to Cleveland and go and get 95.

[Joe]

Yeah. It's gonna probably take three first round picks, but you get. Yeah, the Cowboys have the capital. The Eagles will do it. Detroit will do It. You got to have somebody that. That's. That. That would put that. You know. Now here's the thing that's going to be tricky about Detroit, because Hutch. You're gonna have to do something with Hutch this year, right? You gotta do. You're gonna have to do something with him.

[Ocho]

And could you imagine Aiden Hutchins on one side?

[Joe]

No, I don't want to imagine that, man, with that offense.

[Ocho]

That ain't. That. That's not fair. That's not fair. You might well just ship the goddamn Lombardi right out there to him right now.

[Joe]

Oh, for sure.

[Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Joe]

And. And if you put him in Dallas, him on that turf, man, stop playing.

[Ocho]

Now, that's. Now that's a different maker. That's a different maker because the offense is so good. The offense is so good.

[Joe]

You're gonna be playing with a lead, and he gonna. He gonna get the rush all the time.

[Ocho]

There it is. There it is. And that's an impact player that will make your defense that much better.

[Joe]

For sure. That's. That's absolutely. That's absolutely for certain, Ocho. But it's just. It's just tough. I mean, you know. Yeah, I. I just don't know what he thought. And I. Look, we told. I. I know why he did it, too. Like you said, there's no more guarantee. I need a. I need a contract. I ain't playing this last year with no guaranteed money. I won't. Guaranteed money. I. I requested a trade. I understand what I mean in the community. I really love the city. Yada, yada, yada. Oh, they came, said, we got 40 million. We got 105, 110 million fully guaranteed. Okay, I'm good. He know they not gonna win, but he got guaranteed money.

[Ocho]

Yeah. I mean, listen, we all know, you know, and those on outside, I mean, those would.

[Joe]

Let me ask you a question, though, before you go any further. Do you believe if he says, I want to get traded and he said that my destination would be the Eagles, I would like to go to the Eagles, or I got to go to, like to go to Detroit. Do you believe that he gave him a similar contract? Because I do.

[Ocho]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Joe]

Thank you.

[Ocho]

Absolutely. For what he's done before he hit 30 years old.

[Joe]

He won't be 30. He won't be 30 until the 29th of December.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

That man got two months.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

You know how many sacks this man's gonna have in two months?

[Ocho]

Yeah, and see, that's why I said they would have been willing to do it because of what he's already accomplished and he has 30, right? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. But listen, it still might happen. It still might happen because right now, the Browns, the organization, the gm, the scouts, the owner, I mean, we're really not going anywhere because they're not. Not. We're not.

[Joe]

They're not.

[Ocho]

We're not winning with them. So why don't we get pieces that we can use and continue to build for the foreseeable future?

[Joe]

But here's the thing, Ocho. Can they build?

[Ocho]

Nah. Yeah. Maybe Legos.

[Joe]

Exactly. Toy Land.

[Ocho]

That's what, that's what they. That's what they showed us.

[Joe]

Yes, they. They had a quarterback, but they didn't want him to be himself. He got injured and he played. He tried to play through it and, you know, had me convinced that he couldn't play. Right. No, he could play. He just need pieces around him.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah. As all. As all quarterbacks do.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Yes.

[Joe]

Look at it. When he got pieces around him. Ta da.

[Ocho]

Looking. Looking good.

[Joe]

But, but. And you know, look, they. When they got high draft picks. But see, you got Miles Garrett. Okay? Slam dunk. You got Baker. Baker played good for a couple years. He got injured, you didn't have the pieces around him. Right. But you got Denzel Ward. But here's the thing. Oo it's those second round. It's the second through fifth. That builds your football team. Yeah. That's where you make it. That's the way. That's the way you build a football team.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And it's those pieces. So do we believe Cleveland can fill in. Can fill in the blanks? That's the question. Can they fill in the blanks? Ooh.

[Ocho]

Well, have they been able to fill them in the past, who knows how long?

[Joe]

No.

[Ocho]

There's your answer.

[Joe]

No, they hadn't had a quarterback since. Since Bernie Kozar was taking him to the AFC championship game. Consistently. Now, Baker had a couple of good years, but I'm talking about consistent play for or 3, 4 year stretch. It was burning, you know, the in night. What was 80, 1980, when they had the cardiac kids, Brian Sike, Ozzy Newsom, Reggie Rucker, those guys. Yeah, but they haven't. They haven't been that in a while. You know, that was good. And like I said, when they had Bernie, they had Ernest Bonner, Kevin Mack, they had Ozzy. I think.

[Ocho]

Metcalf was there too.

[Joe]

Metcalf came in 90. Metcalf was in my draft. Now Metcalf might have been 89. I think Metcalf might have been 89.

[Ocho]

So he was there.

[Joe]

Yeah, he might have been there.

[Ocho]

He was there, man.

[Joe]

He was. You had to see him, man. That joker stop on a dime. O Joe with them high knees.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Man.

[Ocho]

He must have ran track, huh?

[Joe]

Yeah, I think he did.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Because he was silky smooth, man.

[Ocho]

He exaggerated his running form as if.

[Joe]

He was on the track. Garrett 2000 to 2023 defensive player of the year when he had 14 sacks. The five sacks today give him 10 for the season with nine games to play. It'll be tough for players on the losing team to win postseason awards, but he's going to be tough to ignore. Brian Burns is another. I think Brian Burns has 10 over 11 sacks. Gary, eight consecutive season with at least 10 sack. He's on pace to shatter his previous high of 16 sacks in a season. That's how well he's playing. But it's going to go unnoticed.

[Ocho]

Yeah, well, listen, if. If he. He continue to make noise. Continue to make noise. I think obviously before November 4th, I don't think he gonna be there.

[Joe]

No, no. I don't think they're trading, but let me tell you. So Joe.

[Ocho]

Huh.

[Joe]

Think about this. Do you know how hard it is to get sacks when you getting your ass kicked?

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

This man got 10 sacks, this man got five sacks and they ran the ball for damn near 200 yards on them. And he's still putting up numbers on that team.

[Ocho]

And that's crazy.

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[Ocho]

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[Joe]

The Dolphins beat the Falcons by the score 34 10. Tua had his best better mornings after he reportedly awakened with his left eye swollen shut. He started anyway against the Falcons and dominated, throwing for a season high four touchdown two after the game. Probably one of the worst experience I've had in terms of waking up and what happens on a game day. My eyes swollen shut and then thanks to the medical staff they ended up helping with antibiotics and whatnot. So yeah, I'm just glad I was able to go out there and play. Ojo. Can you imagine you waking up? Oh, you a quarterback.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And hell, I mean hell, I thought he had both eyes shut. The last two weeks he throw damn near 10 interceptions so I couldn't tell. But you wake up on a game day, Ojo, and you know things are going bad. You know things are going bad and you know you've played bad.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And to wake up and one of your eyes is holding you up like damn, what kind of luck am I having? Who put voodoo on me? Somebody got a voodoo dog?

[Ocho]

Yeah, listen, it's some type of bad luck but what I do like is I like his composure. I like, I like him not worrying about what the outside, outside noises Talk about. I'm not worried about him, not worried about what the inside the locker room is talking about. I'm gonna come out there and do what I need to do. As much as I like to get in front of the mic, in front of the media, obviously I'm obligated to answer questions and, and some of the things he said, he's rubbed people the wrong way. He's rubbed me the wrong way, and I'm sure it's rubbed those inside that locker room the wrong way. But one of the ways to win that locker room back, you know, is by doing what you did today. Having performance, playing against the Falcons, four TDs, clean game, no interceptions. You know, celebrating with your teammates. That will make people forget some of the things that you said in the media, that when you're, when your teammates over, they might not see you or view you the same way they once did. But winning a performance like that, being that you carry that C on your chest, that's the kind of Dolphin football we looking for.

[Joe]

Well, I'm glad he played well.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Because people would have thought, probably thought he punched his damn self in the eye had he not played well.

[Ocho]

Well, hell, listen, whatever happened to him, whatever you did the night before, whatever to it, whatever you did Saturday night, Saturday, do it again. And just make sure. Hey, make sure your eyes swell up next Sunday, too.

[Joe]

He probably. I think they play Thursday night. Don't they play the Ravens?

[Ocho]

Wait, they got, they got a short week.

[Joe]

I think they played the Ravens on Thursday night. We're at in Miami, I think.

[Ocho]

Hey, I'm. I'm going to the game. Yep, I'm going to the game.

[Joe]

I'm.

[Ocho]

I'm gonna put my. I'm gonna wear my jersey too. I'm going.

[Joe]

You bad luck Ocho. Every game you go to, they lose. You went to Kentucky, they lost. You went to Cincinnati. They lost when we won last week.

[Ocho]

What are you talking about?

[Joe]

You didn't go to that game last week. You went to the University of Kentucky. You lost. You went to Cincinnati earlier this year. You lost.

[Ocho]

No, we won. Hold on. So.

[Joe]

No, you didn't.

[Ocho]

So hold on, hold on. Let me hold. Let's stop. It ain't got nothing to do with me. You think?

[Joe]

I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

[Ocho]

I'm asking you. You think Kentucky was going to beat Texas?

[Joe]

Yep.

[Ocho]

Chat, was Kentucky going to beat Texas?

[Joe]

We'll never know. You showed up.

[Ocho]

Nah, don't try to make me no bad. Look, I'm good.

[Joe]

Slept Rock.

[Ocho]

Hey, everything Everything I touched turned to gold.

[Joe]

You remember Slip Rock? Every time he come around, something bad happened. You remember that cartoon Slip Rock? That's you.

[Ocho]

That ain't me. Everything I touch, turn the gold, everything, everything that is a part of me or attached to me turns to go. You flirt.

[Joe]

But no, no, you know, hey, Ojo, you know, you. We. We beat him up when he played bad, so we gotta give him credit. He played good today.

[Ocho]

Hey, he. Did you see who. You see what I got on, man?

[Joe]

What you.

[Ocho]

What you talking about?

[Joe]

Why you ain't got no bingo jersey on, huh? Why don't you have a Bengals jersey on?

[Ocho]

They lost today. My bang. My bank was lost today. My bangles also.

[Joe]

They gonna leave again next week, too.

[Ocho]

Hey, we gonna re. Listen, we gonna regroup. We gonna regroup. Nah, I'm. I'm call Joe. I don't got Flacco's number, but I'm gonna call Jamar Chase beat the Jazz.

[Joe]

Who can y' all beat?

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey. It's. It's one in the morning, and you think players still up this time of.

[Joe]

Night on the East Coast?

[Ocho]

Yeah, I mean, they all played today. Probably still up, huh? Ain't nobody.

[Joe]

First of all, it all depends if. It all depends if they played at home. I mean, mostly if you play on the East Coast. See, Giants. Yeah, the Giants. That's a short ride. That's an hour hour, you know, hey, 75 minute train ride. The Dolphins, they were in. The Dolphins play in Atlanta. That's a short ride. Yeah, they. Yeah, they sleep.

[Ocho]

The Bengals. Nah, let's. Let's call Jamar.

[Joe]

Jamar don't want to talk. Nah, Tua was 20 or 26, 205, four touchdowns, no interceptions, and he didn't turn the ball over eight. They had 37 rushes, 141 yards. Jalen Waddle, 5 for 99. One touch. A Chan had a touch. Ollie Gore in the second had a touch. Malik Washington had a touch. Hey, man, Ocho.

[Ocho]

Huh? Hey, there was a clip.

[Joe]

There's a really dope, bro. You got to get it together, man.

[Ocho]

Raheem.

[Joe]

Yeah, bro. He got to get it together, Ocho. I. I'm just. I just. I'm always leery, huh? Because Pennies was injured in college.

[Ocho]

But that was before he even got to U Dub, though.

[Joe]

He was injured in college.

[Ocho]

Yeah, I.

[Joe]

And why? His cousins are still on the roster. Y' all should have traded him just to get. I understand it had been the dead money, but let somebody else pay that. Let somebody. Hold on.

[Ocho]

What? Nobody Willing to pay that. You know how much that salary is?

[Joe]

Yes.

[Ocho]

They would have came and got him.

[Joe]

Ocho, it's over. It's over. I think, I think the issue was how much of the, the salary that was the other team gonna pay. Sometimes you just got to do like the Broncos. We'll eat it, but we just need you go.

[Ocho]

Hey, no, that's too much, if I'm not mistaken. I don't know. I don't have the numbers right here in front of me, but if they.

[Joe]

Want, I think it's like 38 this year and it's another 12 next year.

[Ocho]

Yeah, but you, you don't, you don't want to let someone like Kirk Cousins go because what happens is situation just like this.

[Joe]

Just like this. He looked terrible.

[Ocho]

Listen, you, you rather, you rather go with Kirk Cousins as opposed to someone else, someone with veteran experience that, you know, can maybe keep the, keep the, keep the, the boat afloat, keep the ship afloat or give you actually a chance to actually win as opposed to some of the other backup quarterbacks in the NFL? Absolutely not. Now, he didn't look good today, but hopefully Pennick come back next week. If Pennick doesn't come back next week, who do we think gives us our.

[Joe]

Best chance to win?

[Ocho]

Not some damn random backup. Hell, I'd rather Kirk cousin too. Who's making what? What you think he made probably about.

[Joe]

38, 40 million this year.

[Ocho]

God damn.

[Joe]

Ocho. Did you. If you watch that game today.

[Ocho]

Hey, it was that bad. Or is it the fact he looked.

[Joe]

He looked more washed than the last load of laundry I did.

[Ocho]

Is it the fact that he didn't have Drake London out there?

[Joe]

I don't know what oo. It was four. It was fourth and seven and he threw a one yard route. He looked like he looked like one of the, you know, like as you start to get older, you, you want to get less and you want to get hit less and less. So you get the ball out of your hand quicker and quicker, you start getting down sooner and sooner. It doesn't matter what position you play. When you, when all of a sudden you get older, you don't. Those licks hurt more, right? He looked bad today, man. Now the Falcons didn't look good at all. Nobody really looked good. I mean, be. They couldn't get the, they couldn't get the running game going. They couldn't get the passing game going. Nothing worked.

[Ocho]

Bijan fumble, he fumbled earlier.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

And they, they be on that fumble. They went down and scored and from that point on, the game was out of control. Yeah, the game was out of. Out of control from that point on.

[Joe]

But Raheem got to get this thing. He got to get this thing turned around, man. Yeah. Got to get it turned around. Ojo. Ain't nowhere. Ain't no ifs and a bus. There's no way around it. They've got to play better than this. I'm watching them. I'm like, did y' all practice this week or. Coach just say, I see y' all on Sunday. I. I just need to know, Ocho. Yeah. Because I. That. That was. That was piss poor. That was awful.

[Ocho]

But you know what?

[Joe]

The game plan was terrible. The adjustments was terrible. Well, I. If you want to call that a game plan, if you want to say. If you want to call for adjustment. I don't know what was going on out there, but they look bad. This is the bad as the Falcons looked in a while.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, that's the beautiful thing about football. That's the beautiful thing about football. You put in the work on Wednesday, the meetings, the practices, the film stuff, where you put it in. Wednesday you put in Thursday. Friday you have, you know, fast Fridays, where you go over, you know, Wednesday, open field goal line, short yardage, you know, from the 20. Friday, two minute warning, all that. Then you have walk through on Saturday, you go to sleep. Then you have meetings again, you know, to come out Sunday. And then for all that work you put in, two things gonna happen. Either gonna win or you're gonna lose.

[Joe]

But look like we practiced, Ocho. Look like we had meetings. How about that? I don't think that's asking too much to make it seem like we did do those things you said. Wednesday, we come in, we meet, we practice, we meet again, we come in. Thursday we meet, we practice, we meet again, we come in. Friday we meet, we practice, we go home, we have meeting. Saturdays, we have walkthrough. Then you have first 15 Saturday night, then you get into your playbook on Sunday morning before you head out. Can we look like we did some of those things this week?

[Ocho]

Yeah. See, now. Now you understand. Now you understand how I felt sometimes. Now you understand how I feel sometimes, a lot of the times. Because I didn't have very many, many seasons right, where I was able to feel like you felt most of your career. I didn't have many of those. I just didn't. So I was able to. You know, you put in that work and all them hours and hours and hours and. Hell, I. I had to do something else to keep me occupied, to keep me having fun, which is where the character came from. All right, we know y' all won. You. You.

[Joe]

Oh, so you want me to get you one?

[Ocho]

You know the one. That one. You know that one. That means one win. Yo, you getting excited about one win? Just one.

[Joe]

No, we got six wins. Huh? We got six wins.

[Ocho]

No, you got one win today. It was just one win.

[Joe]

We got six. How many do you have?

[Ocho]

We have five.

[Joe]

You don't got five wins. I think you might have three.

[Ocho]

Yeah, we're three. We're three and five. Three and four. No, we in week eight, Right? This is week eight.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Ocho]

Yeah, we. Yeah, we three. We three and we. Three and five. We should have won a day, man.

[Joe]

I don't know what you should have done.

[Ocho]

We should have won today. Boy, we supposed to be forward for sitting at 500, man, going into the Bears, you know, and then going into the buy at 5 and 4 and then giving. God didn't know. Yeah. On the 11th, we got. We got the Steelers next. So that's an ill. You said that last.

[Joe]

They go. They gonna get that rematch. They're gonna get that revenge on y', all, man, please. They don't.

[Ocho]

They don't want. They don't want to. They don't want no part of it.

[Joe]

They do.

[Ocho]

Listen who the chances are, honestly. Let me tell you. Let me tell you where I'm excited and chances are we. We need. We. We gonna beat the Bears. We gonna be the Bears. If we can.

[Joe]

Not in Chicago, y'. All. Not.

[Ocho]

We. Stay with me real quick. We're going to beat the Bears. We're going to beat the Bears. And the momentum of this win is going to carry us into playing the Steelers. I'm not sure. I think we play the Steelers November 9th. So I'm confused. If we have a bye week first, but if we don't, the momentum from beating the Bears.

[Joe]

Well, yeah, if y'. All. If y' all don't play. If y' all don't play the Bears. So that's y' all next game, the Bears.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Well, y' all got a bye week next week.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Okay, then we got. Then after the buy, then we got the Steelers. So we gonna. We gonna be what, five and five? Yeah, we'll be six and five. And then we'll be at the top of division after we win that game.

[Joe]

Y' all not gonna be there.

[Ocho]

Hey, you do understand we gonna win the division, right? With Joe. With Joe Flacco.

[Joe]

Y' all not Gonna be there.

[Ocho]

You heard me.

[Joe]

The Ravens did the best thing by starting Huntley. I don't know what it is about Baltimore, but he said he. If he should stay there, don't go nowhere else. Right? Don't go anywhere else. Just stay in Baltimore. Because that seems to be the only place that he can play well at is in Baltimore.

[Ocho]

We got to understand the offense is predicated to his skill set. He's not Lamont.

[Joe]

That's why I stay his ass in Baltimore.

[Ocho]

Yeah, but. Yeah, but the office remember he.

[Joe]

You remember what he looked like in. In Miami last year? Oh, yeah. Snoop gonna get him. Sn gonna get him.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Leon Neyfak]

And.

[Ocho]

And I said he was gonna get him based on what I saw him do in Baltimore, but again, two completely different offenses, so obviously it just. It just wasn't a good fit.

[Joe]

Yeah, he gonna get him. Okay.

[Ocho]

Yeah, sometimes.

[Joe]

Yeah. Just. Just stay in Baltimore. Don't even leave. Say hey. Nope, nope. I play stay here for the minimum, but I'm not going anywhere. They played. They. Look, we gonna talk about them in a minute. The Colts beat the Titans. 3814. Bears play the Bengals this week. Go ahead. Okay. The Bears play the Bengals. That's. So it's not November 9th. Your buy is November 9th. You guys play the Bears this week, your buy is the following week, right?

[Ocho]

Yeah, that's what I said. Huh? I said we got the Bears, and then I said we had the bye week. And then coming out of that, you.

[Joe]

Said November 9th, you had the Bears.

[Ocho]

No, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't say a date because I know we had the Bears next week because I'm going to the game.

[Joe]

Okay. Are you going to Chicago?

[Ocho]

No, we play at home. We got one more home game.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah. Y' all need to go ahead. You need to go ahead. Don't go to that, but go ahead and go. Yeah, go have a good time. Have a good time.

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[Leon Neyfak]

When I told people I was making a podcast about Benghazi, nine times out of ten they called me a masochist, rolled their eyes, or just asked why Benghazi? The truth became a web of lies. It's almost a dirty word, one that connotes conspiracy theory. Will we ever get the truth about the Benghazi massacre? Bad face, police, political warfare and frankly, bullshit.

[Joe]

We kill the ambassador just to cover something up. You put two and two together.

[Leon Neyfak]

Was it an overblown distraction or a sinister conspiracy?

[Joe]

Benghazi is a Rosetta Stone for everything that's been going on for the last 20 years.

[Leon Neyfak]

I'm Leon Naifak from Prologue Projects and Pushkin Industries. This is Fiasco Benghazi.

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[Joe]

Yes, that's right. Lock her up.

[Leon Neyfak]

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[Joe]

The Colts beat the Titans 38 14. Daniel Indiana Jones completed 21 of 29 attempts, 272 yards, three touchdown, avoiding a turnover for the sixth time in eight games this season. Jonathan Taylor, 153 yards. Russian with two rushing touchdowns and a receiving touchdown. He's on pace for 1800 rushing yards and he leads the NFL's top offense and he seems to be making a pretty, a pretty strong bid. But mvp, we haven't had a running, we haven't had a non quarterback to win the MVP since 2012 with Adrian Peterson did it in that historic season which he rushed for 2097 yards a year after suffering an ACL injury. Ocho.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

You like what you're seeing from the, the Colts?

[Ocho]

Hey, I mean, yes, I like now not only what I'm seeing from the Colts, but the Colts, you know, their resurgence, their success right now is all on the heels of that young bull, Daniel Danny Dimes Jones, he's playing unbelievable football. He's playing unbelievable football, man, and doing his decision, making the, the, the throwing of the ball and anticipating, processing information, making, making sure not putting the ball in harm's way, not turn the ball over. Then Jonathan Taylor running the way he's running makes everything, he run the hell out the ball. He makes everything else easy. So it's just been a great, a great, great relationship, you know, for Daniel Jones going into Indy. And listen, we, we, we didn't know what was going to happen. No, I didn't know he was going to look like this, you know, before the season started. I, I, I can be honest, I can see him being honest. I, listen, I, I owe Daniel Jones an apology because I, I said it wasn't going to work. I felt, you know, that Anthony Richardson should be starting going into his third year. You know, understanding that they gave him one, you know, one year deal for 14 million. I thought Anthony Richard chanced of starting there really wouldn't be a quarterback competition. I do now based on what I'm seeing up now, up, up to this point through week eight. Hell, it shouldn't have been, it shouldn't have been. But all I had in my taste was what I had the view of Daniel Jones when he was in New York.

[Joe]

The only thing that I knew, based on what the contract that they had given Daniel Jones that he was gonna be the starter. And I told you, I said, ocho, they paying that man 14 million, he ain't gonna be no backup.

[Ocho]

Yeah. No.

[Joe]

The mere fact that they brought him in told you everything that you needed to know?

[Leon Neyfak]

Yes, sir.

[Joe]

Who brings a guy in and pays him 14 million and a guy you took as a top five draft pick, if you want that guy to start, you want somebody to come in and have that, you know he can beat out. It was gonna be Daniel Jones out. Damn, Daniel Jones look good. He looks really good now. I don't Know if he can win comeback player of the year because he ain't come back from no injury. That's what I, I, I, I hated that award because they was giving it the guys. Well, where he come back? Player of the year? Where'd he come back from? He wasn't injured. He was just sorry.

[Ocho]

Or maybe not sorry. Just not in the right situation. Situations matter. Situations matter.

[Joe]

And I want people to come back from an injury.

[Ocho]

Okay? Okay.

[Joe]

Adrian Peterson should have won comeback player of the Year. Tom Brady should have won comeback player of the Year. Tom Brady had an ACL injury. He came back. Adrian Peterson suffered an ACL injury. Lay like that. But you come back just because you on the bench, just because you had an off season. That ain't no comeback player of the year. You needed to overcome something, right?

[Ocho]

Well, wouldn't that, wouldn't that be what you overcame? You overcame being sorry. You overcame not playing.

[Joe]

That's your fault. You need to overcome. We need somebody to overcome an injury, right? No, guys like, come on, man. And I think they changed the rules, but I think Jonathan Taylor can now. It's just so hard because these quarterbacks be putting up these unbelievable numbers. They have 40 touchdowns and three, four interceptions. Ocho. And, and you know, it's just. But I think Jonathan Taylor playing, I mean, he puts up 18, 1900 yards. He has 30 touchdowns. It's gonna be hard to overlook that.

[Ocho]

Yeah, you can't.

[Joe]

I mean, look at that. OO 12 for a buck 53. And he had another three touchdown performance. So he's over 800 yards. Russian.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

How many touchdowns does he have, Ash? Like 12.

[Ocho]

12. I think 12?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

800 yards of change. He had 12 touchdowns. Still. How many, how many games we got to go?

[Joe]

Nine, ten. I mean, a nine game. Nine games. Nine, 17. Nine.

[Ocho]

Man. Listen, if I God willing, if he stays healthy, they're gonna have, they're gonna have to come see him. Yeah, there are. What quarterback is actually playing out of their mind.

[Joe]

I.

[Ocho]

Outside of Daniel Jones right now.

[Joe]

Well, Mahomes has been. He. Mahomes look like Mahomes as always, now.

[Ocho]

That everybody's back healthy.

[Joe]

Yep. Who else will play it? Well, obviously that you mentioned. Daniel Jones is playing well. Yeah, Dak was playing well, but I don't know if they could win enough games. That's the problem. The three. What is they three, four and one. Yeah, they got the Eagles coming up here soon. He got 143 carries, 850 yards and, and 12 touchdowns. Wait, 143 carries.

[Ocho]

He got 15 TDs. Who, Jonathan Taylor?

[Joe]

Yeah. He got 12 rushing and three, three receiving.

[Ocho]

Oh, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, okay.

[Leon Neyfak]

Damn.

[Joe]

So he's on pace, he's on pace to break lt's record.

[Ocho]

Hey, matter of fact, in that game today, that safety, I don't know who that safety was. He purposely took that bad angle because you ain't want no action. They think they slick safety. Think he's slick. He gonna take an angle coming down like coming downhill. He's been in the corner.

[Joe]

That's terrible effort. Yeah. Listen, he has two receiving touchdowns. I think he had one last week. Didn't he have one last week against the chargers? He had one this week. So he has 14 total touchdowns, but he's on pay. He's right there. LT had 31 total touchdowns. He's eight games in, so that's 28. So another eight, eight, 16. That'll give him 28. So with another game to play, that could give him, you know, 30, 31. It's going to be hard to overlook somebody getting a, a running back putting up those numbers again. And look at it. So not a whole lot of carries.

[Ocho]

Yeah, he getting up out of there, man, the few, the few carries that he does get, he does the most with the few.

[Joe]

Oh, man, he got speed too. He can run.

[Ocho]

Yeah, that's.

[Joe]

Now look, that's one thing. Those Wisconsin running backs, they scare me a little bit, right? Because they look good in, they look good in college. And then when they get, they get to the league and I'm like, well.

[Ocho]

Mike, listen, Michael Bennett was okay, remember Michael Bennett?

[Joe]

Yeah, but Ron Dain, money ball. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Hey, Ron Dane was huge.

[Joe]

What? He never, he, he never looked, he never was in NFL. What he was in college, right? They call him the Great Dane in college. They call him the great mundane in the NFL because he was very average. He's very ho hum. Hey, so the Wisconsin running back scare me, but he's been better than advertised, right? Better. I mean he's, he's Jonathan Taylor and he got speed to burn. He can ball, he can roll out, you can go or you can roll.

[Ocho]

Out, you can go.

[Joe]

But it's gonna be interesting. Like I said, you know, it's not over yet. You know, Josh Allen's doing Josh Allen things today against, against Carolina. Man, Andy Dalton was good, was terrible today. Oo, did you see him?

[Ocho]

But hey, I, that's the one game I didn't see on. Yeah, that's the one though, actually the one game I didn't see. And was he that bad?

[Joe]

He was terrible.

[Ocho]

But the Panthers have been playing really good football, so I.

[Joe]

Until they put his ass in there.

[Ocho]

I mean, what was. Bryce to be back next week?

[Joe]

I hope so. The Bills route the Panthers 40 to 9. James Cook, 216 yards and two touchdowns, the most rushing yards since one O.J. simpson. Josh Allen accounts for three touchdowns. I think it was the 46th game that he's rushed and passed for a touchdown, which is the most in NFL history. He's gonna put that record so far out there. He might have A hundred such games. 100 such games. Look at this. Andy Dalton, two turnover. Look at it. 245 yards, four rush touchdowns. I mean, this is just Andy Dalton. We just giving the ball away.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He had 313 pass. I mean, yeah, he was behind.

[Joe]

Oh, okay, look, I understand that Chuba Hubbard went to the Pro bowl last year, right? Dowdle is your best player, best running back. Give him the ball.

[Ocho]

What is that?

[Joe]

He's average. He's average. No, no, they tried. They, they, they, they trying to split the carrots and don't want to tick somebody off. Rico Dowdle is the best running back right now. Give him the ball.

[Ocho]

So they.

[Joe]

Give him the damn ball.

[Ocho]

They tried, they tried to make it equal. Equal today, huh?

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. As a matter of fact, if I'm not mistaken, I think Hubbard had more attempts, but he averaged like 2 yards, 3 yards of carry. Come on, man. Man, they be playing people feeling damn feelings. I tried to win a game. That man been hot, red hot. And y' all in here talking. Well, he came back. You know, we, we. Nah, hell no. Hold on. Let me put his stats of record. Rico Doddle had eight carries for 54 yards, almost 7 yards of carry. Hubbard had 12 carries for 34 yards, less than 3 yards of carry. No, you looking at total yards. Eddie Dalton, Pat, 16 to 24, 175 yards interception. And he was sacked seven times. His QBR.

[Ocho]

Was a good.

[Joe]

With a good high school student's GPA. 4.2.

[Ocho]

Sheesh. My goodness.

[Joe]

Yeah. Josh Allen was 12 of 19, 163, a touchdown. Trubisky even got in there two or four, 22 yards. But James Cook had a day of days. 19 carries, 216 yards, 11.4 carry, two touchdowns. Had a longer 64. Shakur caught one, went to the house on him.

[Ocho]

Hey, that was nice, boy. That little stick Roddy caught and got it. Well, that was nice. That was real nice. Good little move.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, he's shifty now. Just think the Bills lost to the Falcons and the Falcons just laid the egg to the Dolphins. That's what, that's what makes sports so fun. Because we don't know. That's.

[Ocho]

That's what makes the NFL so fun. Because you never know. Some of the teams that would dominate. Eh, it just doesn't happen.

[Joe]

After Sunday's 30 to 16 win over the Ravens, coach John Harbaugh called the Ravens violation of the NFL injury report regarding Jackson, Lamar Jackson an honest mistake. I can tell you this. Nobody's trying to hide anything. There is no advantage to be gained with that. The reason why they do it oo is why. Because they don't want somebody to give that information. You get fine. I. I didn't know. I didn't know it was a rule oo me. They was like, we who we play, we play somebody. And I'm like, yeah, we knew John wasn't gonna play all week cause he didn't practice. Lord, I didn't know. Ocho right? Oh, NFL say oh, y' all knew he was gonna practice. He went on injury report. 50 grand. Whoo.

[Ocho]

Wow.

[Joe]

Learn my lesson. Say no more. You got. Hey, my bad, Mike.

[Ocho]

You ain't, you ain't no. You ain't no better.

[Joe]

No, I mean we. Because he didn't practice, so we knew he wasn't gonna play.

[Ocho]

Right?

[Joe]

You should have told me that, Mike. I wasn't supposed to say that. He said. Derek Henry moved past Walter Payton for sole possession of fifth place on the all time NFL rushing touchdown list. Henry now has 112 touchdowns in a hundred in his 143rd game. On the all time rushing touchdown list, Henry trails only Emmett Smith, 164. Ladan and Thomason 145. Marcus Allen 123. Adrian Peterson, 120.

[Ocho]

Golly boy. With em. How many M. Smith got?

[Joe]

164.

[Ocho]

Jesus Christ, man.

[Joe]

Emmett was averaging damn near. It was getting 10, 12, 15 touchdowns a year. It was a running team.

[Ocho]

Boy, that's crazy.

[Joe]

How you think, how you think you become the all time lead rusher?

[Ocho]

Yeah, oh, yeah, I, I understand. I understand obviously and all. Obviously. And also running behind that amazing offensive line.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah. I don't think nobody gonna break that record. I don't think nobody gonna rush for 18, 000 yards on y' all not in today's game because you got two backs and everybody throws the football. I just don't. I just don't see that happening. Right.

[Ocho]

You would have to be special. You Would have to be special.

[Joe]

Who gonna give you that amount of touches?

[Ocho]

I mean, listen, if you're special like that, they will implement that type of offense for you to touch the ball in a manner where you can actually reach. You can reach that, you know, 18,000 plus. You gotta. You gotta hope you stay healthy.

[Joe]

Thank you.

[Ocho]

That's.

[Joe]

That.

[Ocho]

That's the hard part. You got to hope you stay healthy and you're able to play a long time. Wait, how do you even play?

[Joe]

17, 15.

[Ocho]

15. Yeah. Oh, the good days.

[Joe]

C.J. stroud has a season high 318 passing yards with two touchdown to lead the Texans over the 49ers. 26 15. The Texans held Christian McCaffrey in check. He had 25 yards rushing, 43 yards receiving after piling up 200 yards in offense and two scores last week against the Falcons. Yeah, this was the best that I've seen.

[Ocho]

Look.

[Joe]

Yeah, he looked good.

[Ocho]

Listen, he did it without Nico Collins and everybody, Everybody was a part of. Yeah, he looked really good. He looked really good.

[Joe]

It's Mac Jones. Your turnover, bro. You just can't turn it over, bro. You can't. You under. Man. The last thing that you could do is turn the ball over. Oo. Yeah. Try to find. Hold on. I'm finally just digging up the score.

[Ocho]

Hey, that guy, Al. How you say his name?

[Joe]

Who?

[Ocho]

Al Shazier.

[Joe]

Al Alir.

[Ocho]

But that boy don't play. Boy, he play. Al Shazir is playing in the wrong era of football.

[Joe]

He. He's with the 49ers, huh? He came over with Dimiko. He used to be at the 49ers.

[Ocho]

Boy, he playing in the wrong era. Well, he's supposed to be playing, you know, during that early 2000 out here. Yeah. Oh, hey, he played away football the way it's supposed to be played. Yeah, I like. I like him.

[Joe]

Xavier Hutchinson. Remember Xavier came on, he got another five, catching 69 yards on the tub.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

But then they, they, you know, they ran the ball 36 times. 157 yards. C.J. 30 or 39, 318, two touchdowns. He did have the one interception. No sacks. They look good. And they got. They got after. They got after the Texans. I mean, excuse me, the 49ers. M. Jones. 19 of 32. 190. 193. Two touchdowns, one interception. They had 10 rushes for 48 yards. Ain't enough.

[Ocho]

They held C. Mack in check.

[Joe]

Yep. Hold. They only had 42 damn plays. They had 44 total plays. The Texans had 75 total plays. They doubled him up in yards. 475 to 223.

[Ocho]

Getting them off that field.

[Joe]

Doubled them up in time of possession 41. 22 to 1838.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Holding that ball and getting. Getting them up off that field.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

3 and 9.

[Joe]

3 or 9 on third down. Houston was 9 of 16, 101 on fourth down. That'll do it, Ocho. Anthony Nelson and the Bengals. The Buccaneers defense shine in the 23:20 victory over the struggling Saints. I mean, I don't know what the Saint's gonna do.

[Ocho]

Hey, that. That was expected. Spencer Rattler got bent.

[Joe]

Got bent. Shook ain't much better. No.

[Ocho]

Listen, I. I thought. I thought Smith. Rattler was the. Was the answer. That was the answer.

[Joe]

He. What's the question?

[Ocho]

Yep.

[Joe]

I mean, you tell me. He'd answer. I didn't know what you asked, what the question is.

[Ocho]

He hasn't been playing that bad. He hasn't been playing that bad. He showed some flashes, you know. You know, here and there thus far, you know, in the season. But today it was just like the bottom fell out. The bottom fell out to the point where they had no choice but to sit him down.

[Leon Neyfak]

I'm.

[Ocho]

Sure he'll. He'll be the starter, you know, coming back next week, but, like, it's too inconsistent with the talent they have over there. The pieces, you know, that. The Alvin Kamara and Rashid Shahid and the Chris Olave, the tight end. I can't remember the Titan name off the top of my head, but he's also, you know, a good, reliable, viable target. And there's no reason.

[Joe]

Juwan Johnson.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a young bull. There's no reason you should be struggling like that. Not that bad.

[Joe]

I mean, but there was 32 of 51 for 227. They had. They got sacked five times. They threw two. Three. Two interceptions.

[Ocho]

Can you imagine throwing the ball 51 times a game? Jesus Christ.

[Joe]

You have four turnovers. You're gonna lose. Don't. Yo.

[Ocho]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, they don't have the offense to be able to overcome that offense, Overcome one goddamn turnover, let alone four.

[Joe]

Exactly. It's just teams just spinning the wheels without a quarterback.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Yeah. I mean, and they're hard to find. It's not like they just grow on trees and you're like, okay, I'm gonna go pluck me one. But they was. They were convinced on Rattler, and then they took Shook.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Dang.

[Joe]

Until they get a quarterback, ain't nothing they can do.

[Ocho]

Yeah, that. You know what. And that's for every team. That's for the Browns as well. Until they find the answer.

[Joe]

Ocho, it's time to play. How do we do yesterday? Today, Ash, it's time to play Spade Play or spade? Presented by Prize picks. All right. Five pick flex play ahead of tomorrow's in NFL NBA slate. Tyrese Maxey, more than 35 combined points and assists. Damn. Who they play? Poison assistant.

[Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe]

I think I want to go under that because edge come. They got edge come there. But Joel Embiid ain't been doing much lately. I'm gonna say I. I'll go. I'll go. I'll say he have at least. Yeah, I'm gonna go over.

[Ocho]

You say he hadn't done nothing lately. And watch this be the game. He go out there and go crazy.

[Joe]

Could possibly. Cam Thomas, 2.5, made threes. Cam Thomas is a score. He gonna get three. Taekwond Thornton more than 0.5 receiving yards. Yep.

[Ocho]

Yes.

[Joe]

Zach. Ers more than 32 and a half. More than 33 receiving yards. Yeah. Wait.

[Ocho]

Zach Hurts is with the commanders. Yeah. With Jaden, right?

[Joe]

Yeah. Jaden is out, though. Mario is starting.

[Ocho]

Oh, man. Again? Yeah.

[Joe]

Remember you heard his knee against the Cowboys. Or hamstring. Hamstring. Not any hamstring.

[Ocho]

He did. Yeah.

[Joe]

Walter Clayton more than two and a half rebounds. Who does he play for? Ash? Oh, yeah. Okay. We're good. I feel good. He'll get three. Hell, if he can't get three against the Suns. I'm gonna say Maxi. I'm gonna say Maxi gonna go off. I'm gonna say Max is gonna have Max. Yeah. Max is gonna go off. Then I'm gonna go Cam Thomas to make it three. Make three threes. Thornton's gonna have more than a yard. Zach Ers will have more than 32 and a half receiving yards. And Clayton to have more than three rebounds. 25 to win 250. Download the app today. Use Coach Shannon to get 50 in lineups. When you play your first five dollar lineup, it's good to be right, Ocho. With the reporting that Brian Kelly college football teams are on the hook for over $169 million in buyouts this season. Brian Kelly 53 million. James Franklin 49.7. Billy Napier 21.2. Mike Gundy 15. Sam Pitman 9.8. DeShawn Foster 6.4. 3. Brett Pry, Virginia Tech 6 million. Trent Bray, Oregon State 4 million. Trent. Therefore my former Ravens quarterback, Super bowl winning 2.4 and Jay Norvell 1.5. I told you Ocho. Hey, what did I tell you about Brian Kelly?

[Ocho]

He was right. You was right.

[Joe]

I told you about what you call him, too. James Franklin.

[Ocho]

Yeah, you right.

[Joe]

It ain't. It ain't who? Well, man, that's an undefeated team. No, I don't give a damn. If they hadn't lost the game in 10 years. You, LSU, you can't get beat like that at home, right?

[Ocho]

You. You right. Listen, I ain't believe you. I ain't believe you with Dre Franklin. And as soon as you said it, the next day, boom, you know, Then yesterday, you know, I'm going back and forth with you. Wait. Yeah, that was yesterday. I'm like, they ain't f to fire him, you know? Look who we just played against. He's playing against the team. Hell, that's undefeated. Or maybe have one loss. Lo and behold, look at the date came right.

[Joe]

Like I said, it's not. It's not that he lost to Texas A and M is how he lost, is how he lost. Bro, you gave up 35 points in the second half.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, that's. Yeah, that's bad. That's bad. I mean, hell, the Bangles gave. Never mind. I want to bring that up.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, y'. All. Y' all getting terrible.

[Ocho]

I want to bring that up. But, hell, listen, this is a great opportunity for you. It's a great opportunity for you. Oh, hell, it's a great opportunity for me.

[Joe]

I've been playing lottery because I've been calling it. Oh, Snake out, Willie. Yeah, I called a die for this. Stop rolling. No joke.

[Ocho]

Hey, maybe I. Maybe I might as well, you know, try my hand. You know what a coach of college football like Michael Vick, like Deshaun Jackson, maybe I could do, you know, do what Dion do. Maybe they'll hire me at lsu. I turn that program around.

[Joe]

I don't know about lsu, but they definitely holler you out of hbcu.

[Ocho]

Okay. Okay. I like that. So you. You want me to start. You want me to start HBCU first?

[Joe]

I think that you. You see, that seemed to be the route. Yeah, that's the right time had to go.

[Ocho]

Yeah, you're right. You're right.

[Joe]

Right.

[Ocho]

But I think LSU would give me a call because, listen, you want somebody to come in there right now and make an impact, that's going or program.

[Joe]

You have to start at. You have to start at one of these programs as a position coach, you know, like Mel Tucker. Mel Tucker was the DB coach at Alabama. Then he got the head job at Michigan. State, right. Yeah.

[Ocho]

I mean, listen, if LSU and administration, they knew it was good for them, something that the kids need. They need. They need something fresh, huh? They need something fresh. They need something new, huh? They need a different kind of experience. I can get the best out of them. I can maximize these young fellas potential and putting them in positions to not only succeed on the field, but off the field, huh? You put somebody like me in that environment, man, I mean, I flipped the goddamn boot upside down. You hear me? Yeah.

[Joe]

They want them to succeed on the field. When you spend that kind of money, right, Got barber chairs and all that state of the art equipment and all those cushy chairs in the locker room is done. The great training table.

[Ocho]

Yes.

[Joe]

You gotta win, bro.

[Ocho]

That's why you need somebody like me. You need something that the kids can relate to, something that they used to seeing. Oh, I respect that.

[Joe]

Let me get this right. You think they gonna hire a guy that never football before at a major college program, but the ones that have.

[Ocho]

Coached at major college programs are still losing, so which. Which one you want to do?

[Joe]

You think they gonna hire a guy at that program at LSU that's never coached before? No previous coaching experience, right? Yeah.

[Ocho]

Wrong. Can I tell you something?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Everybody that came through that lsu, they had coaching experience, a lot of it. And they didn't fight every last one of them.

[Joe]

Now, Nick Saban left.

[Ocho]

You got me there. You got me there. But listen, listen. You talk about Nick, talk about recruiting recruit. Can you imagine me as the head coach boy at LSU recruiting man?

[Joe]

No, I can't imagine. I can't imagine that, O.J. i can't imagine.

[Ocho]

I can't. I can because I. Hey, what for appearance would be so hype when I walk through that door? Man, stop playing, all right?

[Joe]

We're gonna get you out of this. Or get it. Get you out of here on this. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Hey, y'. All. The Broncos won today. The Bengals did.

[Ocho]

Y' all got lucky.

[Joe]

All right, Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy. To protect my identity from the cowboy haters, I've officially changed my name to Francisco Belafonte. Hey, Doc, I try. I tried to warn you. I tried to, Doc. You won't listen. Yeah, and that's not like you, Doc. I mean, being married as long as you've been. I mean, you. I. I figured you very. You know, you play a person that's very, like, compromised and understand that you have to get. And listen. You listen. I'M sure there's some disagreement. But you know what? You know what I think? You know I think my husband right on this. That's not like you Doc. Not to listen to me. That's not like you. I'm very disappointed in you, Doc. Jason Zeldorf. Only Chaz Bingles could lose against the awful Jets. Chad costume is going to be a paper bag. But Rip Mango Rex reaction made me tear up. Yeah. That they had to do that for for Nick Mango. You he passed away tragically dealing with kidneys. I I think I just saw a post last week where he said he wanted if somebody was a kidney match for him. Right. And he lost his life unfortunately at the age of 41 years of age. Kind of like the Broncos would did what they did. They Demarius Thomas DT went to the Ring of Honor and at 34 years. At 33 years of age the Broncos scored 33 points in the fourth quarter to come back and nip the Giants 33 32. Yep. But rip Nick Mango Jet great jets in the. In the jets ring of fame. Loses his life. Loses his battle with kidney disease. Reggie Brown. The Cowboys are who we thought they are look good last week against backup wide receivers. Everyone wanted to crown them. Defense is still Swiss cheese. Hell to the commanders. You're right. You're right. They're built oo to play with the lead. You see how when they got the lead against the commanders and how they started hunting now they really couldn't get the lead. Now look at him.

[Ocho]

Yeah. That was that goddamn man that got damn bo Nicks boy, huh? Amazing.

[Joe]

Baba Patel Rogers can still sling it. Steelers receivers can't. Can't catch. Ish. Yeah. John knew probably should have had that two point conversion.

[Ocho]

He wait he got you got to maintain. You got to maintain possession.

[Joe]

You found her. Yeah. Ojo what I got keep him. I keep up on me. Come on. I keep up on me.

[Ocho]

Come on, man.

[Joe]

Hold up, hold up. Look at that. Whatever. What'd I say Ocho?

[Ocho]

What'd it say? I can't see Big play big play Shay Ocho.

[Joe]

I throw this thing so hard to pin false. I don't want him hit me. I thought it's so hard to pin fall.

[Ocho]

Well it's easy. It's easy to roll the ball hard when you got using eight pound ball.

[Joe]

I ain't no eight here. Hey watch. Hold on. Give it leave me the other major so that's I already showed you so there's three balls right here.

[Ocho]

You. You. You're not you. You You, You. You're an item collector. You don't really play these sports. That's not what you do.

[Joe]

Oh, Joe, why you mad? You ain't got no bowling ball. You roll with house bowling ball. Don't be mad at me.

[Ocho]

But that's that. When you're great at what you do, it doesn't matter what. What equipment you use.

[Joe]

I guarantee you name the name, the player, they go in there, he play. He play pool and he use a house stick. He bring his stick.

[Ocho]

See that? Listen, you don't understand. When you're great at what you do, it doesn't matter what equipment you use.

[Joe]

Are you great at what you do? When's the last time you think guys go to pick, go to a gym and play in somebody else's shoes? Since you graded what you do.

[Ocho]

Well, hold on. It happened to me. Sometimes you leave your shoes in the wrong car sometimes, you know, you driving your girl car and you got.

[Joe]

I saw you play basketball, huh? You should have stayed in the car. The shoes should have got out. Salsa said, Hey, 51911 AR. This is why it's so hard on him. We get this Austin Reeves in the playoffs, we can compete with anybody. Look, I've always liked Austin Reeves. I remember. I think they played in about two or three years ago, they played in Denver, and it was Austin reeves and Max McClung, and you see Austin Reeves go crazy. Austin Reeves can play. And this is why I say, this is why I get so upset with Ben Simmons, because I watched Austin Reeves come in as an undrafted free agent and get better and better and better and better. Because you know why? Because he put the work in. He put the work in. He put the work in. He put the work in. Ben Simmons can't even get on the team right now.

[Ocho]

Well, is it the fact that he can't get on the team right now or the fact they don't want him on the team and he's not committed to actually improving and wanting to play?

[Joe]

Saying, it's too late, it's too late. I mean, it improved. What?

[Ocho]

Yeah, you're right.

[Joe]

I mean, he's afraid to shoot the ball. Yeah, I mean, I mean, damn. I mean, I knew Austin Reeves could score. He's a score. Yeah, but damn, almost 50 point. Trip dub.

[Ocho]

That boy looking like me out there, huh?

[Joe]

With no Luca, with no LeBron. Oh, well, but that's what I said. On a bad team, he'll be an all star, right? On a bad team? Where he gonna get all this like he did tonight? He can get as many shots as he won't, right? On a bad team. He's an all Star. Now. It's gonna be hard with Luca and LeBron there, but he still might make it, play it like this. Yeah, had 20 points every, and then, guess what I mean, Luke could go back to back 40.

[Ocho]

40 point.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you go. And then you turn around and you get Austin Reeves, go for a career high 51. Almost had a trip. A 50 point trip dub.

[Ocho]

Hey, but listen, you have all these great scores, right? You got Luca, you got Austin reeves, you got LeBron. Can. Can give you 20, 24, 27. I can't play no defense, though, whatever it may be. But ain't nobody playing no defense.

[Joe]

They like nobody playing the tv. Ain't nobody playing no defense.

[Ocho]

Lakers like the Bengals on defense, huh?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

Ain't stopping nobody.

[Joe]

Jacoby Waters. I missed the show last night, but it was my birthday yesterday. Been riding with y' all since day one. Jacoby. I appreciate that. Happy belated birthday. We could understand you missing the show last night. You got a birthday. Hopefully you did something fun. Family, friends, and loved ones. You had a lady, you went out to, had a dinner. Hey, you know what? Hopefully you shook the covers for Dark, too. Trey Tyler said, Ocho. Sorry. Bingo's lost to the sorry quarterback. Andy Dalton Sold my Panthers. They did.

[Ocho]

Yeah, you know, we. We all. We. Listen, Panthers fans, y'.

[Joe]

All.

[Ocho]

Y' all know how I feel. Bangle Fans. I mean, 24 hours. 24 hours, and our focus is on.

[Joe]

The Bears, So you're gonna lose that one, too.

[Ocho]

You. You won't bet none. Make it light up. Make it. Hey, listen, make a light on yourself. Throw it on the floor. I'm gonna pick it up.

[Joe]

I just know. I just want 5,900. That's all I want. I saw this thing. I saw this. This outfit. It was 5, 900.

[Ocho]

Now, but if. If there's an outfit for 5,900, that ain't what you need to be wearing your phone.

[Joe]

You got what you call them. You got chrome heart. I don't say nothing about when you wearing them chrome.

[Ocho]

Somebody bought those for me.

[Joe]

Okay, so. So why would you tell them they ain't got no business paying 50, 10 grand for no jeans?

[Ocho]

Because they already bought it without my acknowledge. And I can't. I can't get a gift and be like, oh, why would you.

[Joe]

You can't say, take that back. The. The. The frugal. Oo. I know. Say that's. This is not you. Know is. This is not. This is not wise investment. Hold on.

[Ocho]

Listen, I understand that, but also in the Bible, it says, enjoy the fruits of thy labor. And I am. I'm 100.

[Joe]

I want to enjoy the fruits of my 5,900 that you owe me. So can I enjoy that?

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah, most definitely.

[Joe]

I tell you that Fletch, Unc stole that ball from the bowling alley during Cosby.

[Ocho]

You stole that ball from the bowling alley and then had them print that Broncos thing on there.

[Joe]

What you mean Ocho? Now, when I used to go. When I used to go to people's bowling tournaments, I would get a boat. You know, they was like, okay, you can get a bowling ball. You know, you can get a bag or you can get. So I would just get. You know, I would get a bowling ball.

[Ocho]

Yeah. You're not a. You're not a real bowler. My bowling balls were made in Malaysia. My bowling balls were made in Malaysia. Now I'm. I'm a real bowler. 16 pound. I got two 16 pound balls. Wait, let me. Let me go get my bowling man, you know, my bowling bag upstairs. That's too far to go.

[Joe]

I ain't never seen the man. I ain't never seen the man hate like this here, huh?

[Ocho]

I'm not hating. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

[Joe]

I mean, I got Ocho, I work. I got those bowling balls. They're £16. I work at. You don't see. You got. I got Broncos. I got Big play shade. I got all got. Damn.

[Ocho]

All right, show me some footage.

[Joe]

Hating on me about bowling skill, man.

[Ocho]

Show me some footage. Show me some footage.

[Joe]

This is embarrassing, man. Baba Patel, Jake Ferguson, lead tight ends for most receptions this year. Had zero catches on national tight end day. Make it make sense. Had him locked up, wouldn't let him out.

[Ocho]

Nature of the game. Nature the business.

[Joe]

Orlando Broncos on a five game winning streak. How far they can go? Look, they still got. They got two games against the Chiefs. I think they got Buffalo. Hey, they're good, man. The Broncos are good. They're not pretenders now. They're not Horace Tidwell. My nine under football team, Buffalo Stampede is playing Mid Florida Conference championship game next Sunday. Hype my boys up for me and get to get them ready so they can have a great practice this week. Well, y' all got this. The team The Buffalo Stampeders, nine and under.

[Ocho]

Nine. Nine. Nine. You nine. You make sure them boys McDonald's everything else to take care of.

[Joe]

Oh, they're in the conference championship game. Ocho oh, yeah. This for all the marbles. So everything that you did, but prior to this don't matter. You get one shot, guys. You get one shot. One chance.

[Ocho]

One and done, baby.

[Joe]

That's it.

[Ocho]

Give him that work.

[Joe]

Don't let your guys down. Man, don't you be the guy. Don't you be the guy. You worked all year to be in this position. What you're in right now. Now we're gonna go do it. You know why we're gonna win? Because we're the better team. We're the better prepared team. We're the more disciplined team. We're the more physical team.

[Leon Neyfak]

Team.

[Joe]

We're going to out hit them. We're going to out catch him. We're going to outrun them. And when it's all over with, we're going to walk us this field as a champion.

[Ocho]

And make sure y' all listen to NBA young boy before you go play.

[Joe]

F New Jersey. Oo, that North Korea Wi fi again. Yeah, he. He on that Joe. He must be over that Joe Crib.

[Ocho]

N. Boy, I got good Wi fi. Ain't nothing wrong with mine.

[Joe]

Joe. J. Barb said Ocho always apologizing for downing my Broncos. Put some respect on our name, Ocho. I keep telling him.

[Ocho]

I did. Listen, listen, I. I could be wrong. It's okay. It's okay. I could be wrong. I thought y' all was gonna lose. And I'm mad you think that. Listen, I'm man enough to come on here and say, you know what? For those of you Bronco fans, I apologize. I was wrong. I was wrong.

[Joe]

Apology not accepted.

[Ocho]

But listen, you know, I have to accept that. I got. I gotta. I gotta accept that. That's.

[Joe]

That's okay, Doc. Barnes and Ocho can't say egg either. Looks too much like a football. Ah, pride. The Bengals gave up more yards than that a lawn care worker last game. Who Quit shaking my head. It's okay, Ocho. Salute, uncle. No, Joe. Appreciate that. Samuel Legrand. Who y' all pick as an mvp? JT Or Danny Dimes?

[Ocho]

Oh, that's a good one. And most of the.

[Joe]

I'm gonna go to the quarterback.

[Ocho]

I'm going to Danny Dimes. But they asking us personally who we would pick. I picked Danny Dimes because, man, you. You came out. You came out of nowhere with this one.

[Joe]

I think the thing is, for me, I would lean towards me honestly, I would lean towards Jonathan Taylor because Jonathan Taylor's ability to run the football right is what makes everything so easy. Because he's throwing one on one coverage because you got to get down in the box, right? You got to stop JT from running. And right now, nobody's been able to do that. But, man, Daniel Jones has looked incredible. J. Barbs Cinco. I'm a nice guy, but I don't know what's worse, your foggy glasses or the sorry bingos. Put some respect on my Bronco Broncos. Respectfully, un. Yeah, put some respect on our name, man.

[Ocho]

Look, we. We already discussed that, though.

[Joe]

Nah, but you ain't putting no respect on it. Like, we should be there. I did.

[Ocho]

I. I apologize and say y' all won. That's. That's. That's.

[Joe]

That's.

[Ocho]

That's respect. That's enough respect. Or. That's as far as the respect I'm gonna give you.

[Joe]

Yeah. Aaron Jones, what did us Eagles do to you? We. We can never seem to win in your eyes. The Giants had missed calls all games. No love, all hate. Ain't no no hate. Honestly, I just talk about the Eagles when it's time to talk about them. All I'm saying is you don't get to get momentum and says, oh, the momentum wasn't stopped. But when you lose the fumble. His momentum was stopped. He was on top of somebody. He wasn't on the ground.

[Ocho]

You can't have it both ways.

[Joe]

Yeah, when. When they. When he keep driving and pushing. Oh, his momentum is going forward. They move the ball four yards up. Now all of a sudden you lose the. Now you lose the ball. His momentum will stop. Stop. And first of all, if your team didn't beat the Broncos, Eagles did y' all beat the Broncos. That's why I'm getting no credit. Because you had an 18 point lead, a 15 point lead. And. And we put foots in you now. What in your building. And you had everybody. You had Jaylen, you had Saquan, you had AJ you had devonte, and you had Dallas Garden, and you had a healthy offensive line. So what's the excuse now? That's why. Cuz you didn't beat the Broncos. So you don't get no credit from me. Samuel Grant. It ain't a enough explaining in the world. Miles got got that bag. He wasn't thinking about winning. Max Crop is going to be the same boat putting up numbers on the losing team. You're absolutely correct, JJ. Broncos put foots in them while the Bengals got foots put in them.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Relax.

[Joe]

Broken off in them.

[Ocho]

Relax.

[Joe]

You know, Broke it off in them. We broke it. Hey. Broke it off in them.

[Ocho]

Hey, listen, listen. That humble pie gonna come real quick now. Hey, listen, I don't like pie.

[Joe]

I don't like no pieces.

[Ocho]

Well, listen, all y'. All. All y' all talking trash, y'.

[Joe]

All.

[Ocho]

Bronco fan. Listen, I said I apologize, but y' all getting a little. Getting a little sporty. You're getting a little beside yourself. The football gods will find a way to humble you.

[Joe]

Wow. Now the God. What God do with this?

[Ocho]

Hey, I'm just saying.

[Joe]

God say he rested on Sunday. He said he'll take no calls.

[Ocho]

Okay. He ain't gotta take nothing. He ain't gotta take nothing tonight, but he gonna take some tomorrow. Yeah.

[Joe]

Oh, so you prayed the Broncos lose next week?

[Ocho]

No, I'm not praying. No, I. Listen, my prayers are always for good, never for bad.

[Joe]

Oh, always. I'm just checking. I was just checking, Ocho. Okay.

[Ocho]

I'm just making sure.

[Joe]

Little Ninja 24. What's up, Uncle Nocho? How does it work with grades? If my quarterback is making 7 million and his grades are slipping, he can't play. Me as a coach would like that. 7 million he's getting says he's playing. Oh, Andy Dalton is trash. Save my Panthers. Well, I'm sure all that's all that's in there. I mean, you can get fine. You late for practice, you meet workouts, you miss study. Yeah, it's. It's a job. So I'm sure all of that is implemented in there. I mean, I don't. Like I said, I don't really know anybody personally that's getting nil, but I'm sure it's like a job. It's just like the NFL. If you late for meetings, you get fine. You late for practice, you get fine. You miss study hall, you miss a workout, you get fined.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So I'm pretty sure that's how it works. Lamar M. Mills. Sorry. OO the Bengals defense is about as revelant as kicking power at a quarterback position. And after all the contract nonsense, I haven't heard shamar name again all year. Haven't either.

[Ocho]

Y'. All. Not at the games. I heard his name.

[Joe]

You want to introduce the starters? Bright bro Miles Garrett had more sacks this game than Gabriel has completions over 20 yards this season. Ladies and gentlemen, behold Mr. Dinkin dunk himself.

[Ocho]

Yeah, that's a good one.

[Joe]

He don't have. No, he doesn't have a big time army. He does it most quarterback. Most left handed quarterback. The only quarterback I think it was that had a big time arm.

[Ocho]

Vic.

[Joe]

Yep.

[Ocho]

Boy, he could flick that thing and go.

[Joe]

He could warship get Raheem Morris gone, please. But he gonna have to pick it up. You can't. You can't. You can't lose to a team that. That's lost as bad as the Dolphins, it been as bad as the Boston this year. And at home get beat like that.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And it just. And the dysfunction. It just looked like you didn't know. Guys had no idea what the hell they were doing or what you were doing. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Want to thank each and every one of you guys for joining us tonight. Thank you so very much. It's nights like this that we greatly, greatly appreciate. We understand it's almost 2 o' clock on the east coast and you guys were with us tonight. So we appreciate that. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite Unc.

[Ocho]

Hey, that.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Ocho]

Where you at?

[Joe]

I'm in Atlanta, man. I'm.

[Ocho]

I'll be there tomorrow. I gotta do something with Cam.

[Joe]

I'm leaving tomorrow.

[Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe]

Morning.

[Ocho]

What time you leave? Stay. Stay an extra day.

[Joe]

Oh, no. I gotta go. I gotta go. I want to get back in my bed. I want to get back in my bed and sleep. Or even though I got my big bed. I got a 10 by 10 bed upstairs.

[Ocho]

What that mean?

[Joe]

It's 10ft wide and 10ft long.

[Ocho]

I don't know about that. I don't know about that. I got. I got a twin.

[Joe]

The average king bed is a six, eight. Six foot wide, eight feet long. My bed is 10ft wide, 10ft long.

[Ocho]

So you just got extra room for no reason at all.

[Joe]

I talked to you about it. 26 in 26. It's 26. That's what I'm saying. 26. I believe I'm 26. 26. I'll tell you about it. 26. Please make sure y' all hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. Do us a favor. Go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Tell family, friends, and loved ones to do likewise. And thank you so much for your support, all your support. Because nothing go happens without you. Make sure you check out My Shade by Laportier. Just head over to laportierconac.com to grab you a bottle. Because if you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it online and we'll ship it directly to your door. The best tasting premium BSOP cognac on the market. Try it. Compared to others, it's smooth and I guarantee you you'll like ours better than you like theirs. Go follow my media company page on all of its platform sh Shay Media and my clothing company 84. With 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat. Make sure you go subscribe and check out Joe and Debo and Joe. They'll be live tomorrow morning. Debo is not gonna be happy about his about his Steelers. I'm sure they'll have a lot to say about that game. Debo gonna crash out. He is gonna crash out because he's gonna be very disappointed that his team lost. They're live every Monday, Tuesday and Friday at 11am Eastern. Make sure you check those guys out. The packers beat Steelers Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Rodgers he didn't return home, but he was playing against his former team and they beat them by the score of 2035 25. Broncos blow out the Cowboys by the score of 4424. J.K. dobbins ran for over 100 yards, Bo Nicks threw for four touchdowns and the Cowboys look like the Cowboys. Thank you guys for joining us. We'll see you tomorrow after Chiefs Commanders. Thank you guys again. Good night.

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