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We got clear facts. Maybe we could calm down a little.
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NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the Facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America.
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Shadow Sharp
Yeah Johnny, we're gonna get you out of this one. Oregon saves college football hopes escape Iowa on the last second field goal number nine. The Iowa Ducks took down the who did the hour 18:16 on Atticus Sappington's 39 yard field goal with three seconds to remain. The Ducks lean on their run game which gas hour for 261 yards on 36 carries. The special teams produced 12 points including a safety after bad snap by Iowa. It was raining, the conditions weren't very good. But Oregon found a way and that's what you have to do to keep your hopes alive. You got to stay alive. It's hey, surviving advance that, that's it.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
And something know, hey, surviving to get you beat too, huh? Yeah, surviving will get you beat too. Not, not the normal organ. We're used to seeing the way they perform today. I don't know, maybe the conditions, maybe the temperature, maybe the rain, whatever it may be. But again, same thing with, with the, the V not Vandy game, the lsu, lsu, Alabama, Alabama game. Same thing. Same thing. Sometimes, sometimes you get a game, you play a team that is somewhat inferior and they just play well. They just play well that day. Any given Saturday, anything can happen.
Johnny Manziel
You know, I think for Oregon, obviously, you know, you look at the end of their schedule, they have USC coming up and then they, they finished with Washington. So two ranked games, you know, they're, they're not breezing their way into this college football playoff. They're definitely gonna have to come out the next couple Saturdays and earn it for sure. Yep, this is one of those ones where you're like okay, we got out of there next, like let's go get ready for sc. We've seen what they are, we've seen their games on tape. We feel like we can beat them. We go so you know they should beat the, the next two teams they have but it's nothing. It's not a layup, it's not guaranteed. It's not, you know they're going to have to go out and fight for it. To be honest, I don't really know what stands out on this Oregon team, to be honest. I think the quarterback at time shows flashes. I think their defensive time shows flashes. But like, I don't think you look at it and say this is one of the best or better Oregon teams of the past decade or so. And like, so it's like, what do they do? Well, you know, kind of type of thing. But they're going to be in. They're in the conversation, they're in the mix. We'll be talking about them a lot for the next two, three weeks if they take care of business.
Shadow Sharp
Yep. Hey, make sure you guys go check and subscribe to Johnny Manziel's podcast, Glory Days on all platforms. Johnny, thank you for joining us. We'll see you next week, man. Have a good one. Hey, head back out and, you know, have. Have a drink for me, you know, brother.
Johnny Manziel
Much love. I appreciate you guys. See you next week.
Shadow Sharp
All righty. Miami used some trick plays Ocho today to roll to a 3810 win over Syracuse. Carson back through for a touchdown, caught a scoring pass and a clip. 10,000 yards passing to Mark. In his college career. The Hurricanes put it on each of their first four drives, then scored on each of the next four. Miami had no points on his first 22 plays, then 22 points on his next 22 plays. That's the thing that's so frustrating about, about Miami. Yeah. Like you could see like, like, damn, man, they just moving the ball up and down the field.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah.
Shadow Sharp
And then the next game they like, have y' all ever. Have y' all practiced? Have you watched tape? I mean, what is going on?
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
I. I have no idea. With the talent that um has right now, with the money that they're paying Carson, Beck, I mean, things should be very smooth week in and week out. And obviously it's. It's not that some of the games they've, they've lost. I'm like, well, what the hell is going on? And then Beck throwing the interceptions that he throws and I think about the talent he has around him is good enough to. Even on a bad night, if he has a bad night, the talent around him should be able to over overshadow his bad play. And that, that just hadn't been been the case. The players are good, the skill position players are good, but then they're not as good as what they used to be. It's not some of the hall of Famers that came through there, but there Are some.
Shadow Sharp
This. This is different, okay? They're not that. They're not the canes of the 80s. They're not the canes of the 2000. That. That's. That's not. That's not what they have. This is a different time. This is a different era. They got good players, but, I mean, you look at what they had. They don't have no Ed Reeds, no Sean Taylors, no Ray Lewis's Browns. No, no, no Santana Moss, no Michael Irving, Brett Par. They don't have that. That's not. That's. That. That's not what they have. They have good. You know, Vinnie wasn't the Heisman. Bernie was the number one pick in the supplemental draft. That's not what they have. And it's okay. Most teams don't have what they once had, but this is a good team. And I feel they've lost some games that they definitely should not have lost because their quarterback has turned the ball over at the most inoperative time, most inopportune times, too many times. Yes, you can't. You can't throw four picks and hope you overcome it.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
No, you, for one, you don't have the defense to overcome it. No. The offense is too inconsistent for you to overcome. You know, throwing four goddamn picks. Nah, that's not happening.
Shadow Sharp
I mean, they beat Notre Dame, beat South Florida, they beat Florida, they beat Florida State. Then you lose the Louisville with the four interceptions, you lose the SMU, you beat Syracuse. Now you go at NC State. No, you home to NC State. You're at Virginia Tech and you're at 24, Pittsburgh. So we'll see. You know, there's still a lot to play for. Yeah, they could get to. They could get to 10 and 2 and just let the chips fall where they may because somebody above them is going to lose and they'll get an opportunity to rise. But they gag some games. You can't lose at home to Louisville. I understand Louisville is a good team.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
But, hey, Louisville good.
Shadow Sharp
Did they beat Cal tonight or did Cal beat them? Didn't they play Cal?
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Wasn't lose the cow? I doubt it. I. Listen, I. I can't even see the scoreboard. I can't even see the score. And I know goddamn well that that didn't happen. No disrespect to Cal, but, hey, Louisville, 29, 26. You serious?
Shadow Sharp
You want to say that again? I beg your pardon?
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
You serious?
Shadow Sharp
I beg your pardon?
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
You serious? Are you playing?
Shadow Sharp
29, 26. Cal beat number 15, Louisville.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Hey, I. I don't I don't understand college football.
Shadow Sharp
Yeah, I know.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
I don't. I don't understand college football.
Shadow Sharp
And Cal beat him in Louisville.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
But you talk about an all. Talk about an off night. That's an off night. That's an off night. Look at me putting my foot in my mouth without. I mean, you don't expect Louisville to lose, especially not with the way they looked against you women. You go out there, you're playing, you lose to. And you lose to a cowboy.
Shadow Sharp
Yeah.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Well, God damn.
Shadow Sharp
Yeah.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Oh, man.
Shadow Sharp
Okay. Oh, okay. Here he is. Joining us now, Ocho. Today's game against Syracuse, he had four tackles, a sack and a half, and a fourth fumble. Here he is, six year red shirt senior, Akeem Methador King. What's going on, bro? I think you on mute.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
We got to unmute it.
Akeem Meador King
There you go.
Shadow Sharp
Yeah, yeah, we got you.
Akeem Meador King
How y' all doing?
Shadow Sharp
What's up? We great, man. Thanks for joining us.
Akeem Meador King
Of course. Thank you for having me.
Shadow Sharp
Go ahead.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
OO now we gonna say, man, what's good? How's everything?
Akeem Meador King
Everything's going well. Coming off a W, just enjoying the rest of football tonight and. And heading to sleep.
Shadow Sharp
Y' all win 38, 10, you get four tackles. Second half, a force fumble. And you in your room.
Johnny Manziel
Dorm room.
Akeem Meador King
Yeah, I'm in my apartment in Miami. I'm really about to go to sleep soon.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah, you finna go to sleep?
Akeem Meador King
Yeah.
Shadow Sharp
Hold on.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
You down. You down there. You down the street from me in the Gables.
Shadow Sharp
Yeah, right here, man.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
I mean, hey, I'm finna come pick you up after the show, man. We finna go hit booby trap, man.
Akeem Meador King
Nah, not me.
Shadow Sharp
Not me. So look, we were just discussing a little earlier. Yeah, you had a couple of setbacks. You lose to Louisville, you lost in overtime to smu and you guys bounced back. Tell me what the mindset was today. Coming in, playing, you know, Syracuse, team that's on, little hard times, but you want to make sure they don't get on good times against us.
Akeem Meador King
Yeah, well, we established an identity at the beginning of the season. Starting off strong, really. And then we kind of. We kind of steered away from that during SMU and Louisville. So just throughout the week, really, the mindset was get back. Like, get that identity back, work through it, work hard every day, and then do the same in the game and just get that, get our swagger back.
Shadow Sharp
So Male Kuiper has you very high on his draft board. So when you came into the season, what was, what was, what was your goals? What was Your expectations, what coming in for your final season at the. At the ute, really just want to.
Akeem Meador King
Put on tape that I can ball. Really? Just. That's it.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah. And the funny thing about putting it on tape, showing that you can ball, it's about not only balling, you know, it's about doing it consistently week to week. It's about doing it regardless to who you're playing, especially against those that are also ranked high that you're probably going to have to see Sunday because, you know, obviously, once you get to that next level and the level of play rises, you know, the. Of the players you play week to week. So, you know, being able to show that, that's one of the reasons, you know, I've watched you. That's one of the reasons you are ranked so high on male Kuiper's board. So for one, congratulations to that. And these, these next three. These next three, you get. You get to finish it off and put. Put the exclamation point on everything.
Akeem Meador King
Absolutely.
Shadow Sharp
Help me out with this. From Canada to Miami. Canada. Miami.
Colin Coward
Canada.
Shadow Sharp
Miami. How. How did this happen?
Akeem Meador King
Well, I love football. I started when I was young, played all my life, really. And somebody like a mentor of mine approached me one day and he just explained to me how football is more serious down in the States. You know, you can. Can go to school for free. You can make a living out of this for real down in the States. So he just put me on to college football, and then I went to multiple different schools, ended up finishing my senior year in Florida. And then recruitment blew up and I was able to go to. I was able to come play D1 football.
Shadow Sharp
So you're like, hold on, wait a minute. You mean to tell me I can go to school for free, get a college education? If I'm good enough, I might eventually get paid millions and millions of dollars to do this. What I sign up at what I need to do?
Akeem Meador King
Basically, yeah.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
What. What. What part of Canada?
Akeem Meador King
Ottawa, Ontario.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Oh, yeah, Ottawa. Okay.
Shadow Sharp
Okay.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
You know, I played. I played in Montreal.
Akeem Meador King
Yeah. Yeah.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
That was fun. That Canada is. Is a beautiful place. The people are very, very, very nice. That's.
Shadow Sharp
That's.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
That was one of the best places I ever had to visit. So it really dope.
Shadow Sharp
Has American football been everything you thought it would be? Because I know we heard you say your mentor told you about American football and how they take it serious and not to say you guys, but, you know, you guys, Canada is more known for hockey. That's what you guys are known for, Hockey. And you know, and in the usa, will football. And they take it serious. College football is taken serious. NFL football is taken even more serious. Football. So has it been everything you thought it would be? Has it been harder? Has it been easier? Or has it been exactly what you thought it would be?
Akeem Meador King
Well, growing up, the narrative was, you know, Americans, they don't play with it. They'll eat your breakfast, you know, just.
Shadow Sharp
Yeah.
Akeem Meador King
Up here. And then. So that was my expectation the whole time. I finally got here and it was.
Shadow Sharp
Just, football is football.
Akeem Meador King
At the end of the day.
Shadow Sharp
Yep.
Akeem Meador King
Really felt the same. So it wasn't really a, A culture shock or anything for me as ball is ball.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah.
Shadow Sharp
And you like, you know what? I just whipped this American's ass. So I, I, hey, I guess I'm pretty good too. You, y' all had this all hyped up, and I'm whipping left and right.
Akeem Meador King
Yeah.
Shadow Sharp
So what do you, what are you majoring? You have, I'm assuming you have your degree by now. What did you major in?
Akeem Meador King
So I graduated with a American studies major, and then now I'm getting my, my master's in Liberal arts.
Shadow Sharp
Okay, hold on. What's up? What's American studies? Is it history? I mean, what do we studied in America?
Akeem Meador King
It's, it's really, it's really everything. I don't know a lot.
Shadow Sharp
In other words, you majored in eligibility. Let me get me something that I can stay eligible and play on this football team because my goal is to go play in the NFL. I, I get it. I get it, Akeem. Okay.
Akeem Meador King
You got that.
Shadow Sharp
Man. You say, look here, I ain't come here to be. I ain't getting no chemistry degree. I ain't going to do no finance. No econ. Eligible and stay on this field.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
No engineering. I ain't listen, but I ain't trying, I ain't trying to do none of that. I'm trying to get to that, that next stage.
Shadow Sharp
Got to get to the bag.
Akeem Meador King
Yeah.
Shadow Sharp
So you, you, you come from a big family. You got, you know, brothers, siblings.
Akeem Meador King
Yeah, I have, I have about 10 siblings.
Shadow Sharp
Damn.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
I like that.
Akeem Meador King
I was the youngest, but now I'm the second youngest.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Okay, hold on.
Shadow Sharp
Don't you be you, you. So I'm assuming you're probably like 24, 25.
Akeem Meador King
24.
Shadow Sharp
Okay, you're 24. So how old is the oldest?
Akeem Meador King
33.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Okay.
Akeem Meador King
It's on mom and dad's side. So my pops, My pops has. Nah, my pop, I don't know. My past is hella kids. But.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
You Say, pops have hella kid. You think he got more kids than I do?
Akeem Meador King
I don't know. How many do you have?
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Thirteen. Okay, okay. I only had. I only have eight. I only have eight. But I mean, that, that's, that's normal.
Shadow Sharp
So you. So how the youngest? You got one younger than you. So how old is he now?
Akeem Meador King
She is. She's seven now.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Hey.
Akeem Meador King
Yeah.
Shadow Sharp
So 33 to seven. That's, that's a, That's a big, That's a big gap. It is.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
That's, that's, That's a sign too. You know that? Huh?
Akeem Meador King
What's a sign?
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
You heard me.
Shadow Sharp
Hunk aside. Of what?
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
I don't know. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe next year after we jump the broom and we get married, it's about. Maybe we both have kids. Who, me and you?
Shadow Sharp
But, man, I'm just saying what I look like having a kid at 58. Ocho.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. You still, you. Well, you still work, don't you?
Shadow Sharp
Yeah, I still work.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Okay, well.
Shadow Sharp
Oh, yeah, my plumbing works now. It ain't clogged. Yeah, but.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
I'm just saying, I think, like, it's, it's like, like, like, like starting over. Refreshing having something to live for.
Shadow Sharp
This man. Hi, King.
Akeem Meador King
Hey. That's y' all business.
Shadow Sharp
If I, if catch. If I was a King's age, once again, 25.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Right?
Johnny Manziel
Right.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Did you hear what. You hear what you just said? If I was a key mage. But going out on a limb and redoing that again will make you feel 24.
Shadow Sharp
No, it won't.
Akeem Meador King
It could.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
But thank you. See, I told you, man.
Shadow Sharp
Please. I'm barely, I'm barely getting around on my own, let alone chasing a toddler. Hey, Akeem. Both of us can't be peed in the bed. Hell to the dog. I'm good. I'm good. Akeem, man, congratulations on the big win today. Hakeem Meador, four tackles, second half force fumble. Hey, after you. Good luck the rest of the way. Stay healthy. Good luck in the draft, man.
Akeem Meador King
Yeah, thank you. I appreciate you guys.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Hey, do me a favor. Tell, tell, tell Malachi, man. Tell Malachi OO said. What's up, man? Me and Min. Min is Pops, me, we go way back in the. Way back down there in the C. In D County, man.
Akeem Meador King
All right, I'll tell them tomorrow.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
All right, love.
Shadow Sharp
All right. Appreciate you, man.
Akeem Meador King
Appreciate you guys. Thank you.
Shadow Sharp
Oh, you out your mind, man?
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
No, I, I, I think I, I think it's a good idea. I mean, listen, I mean, in the Bible it says be fruitful and multiply. It had nothing to do with age. There was no age on that, on that verse. And I, I just think for me, did something to me, you know, it made, it made me feel feel young again. Like French, French fries here with me. Now you know what it's like. You know what it's like having to run at three years old. It just.
Shadow Sharp
What'd you say? The Bible said be fruitful and multiply.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah. Ain't that what it says?
Shadow Sharp
Proverbs 2. 7 says, hey, in this economy, be broke and die. So no, man, you see how they cut all this stuff? I'm no bad. I ain't fooling with you, man.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Baby, hold on. Let me see where my. Baby, hold on.
Shadow Sharp
Man, please. Ocho, you trying to this bad chat. Y' all be Ocho crazy. Oh, no. Oh, man. Calamari's future in Arizona is getting a little cloudy. Ocho, following a week in which he's placed on injured reserve. And Gannon said he'd be.
Colin Coward
This is Colin Coward from the Colin coward podcast on Fox 1. Now you can stream your favorite live sport so you can be there live for the biggest moments. That means NFL Sundays and college football games, nascar, Major league baseball, postseason and more. With Fox one, you get it all. Live, edgier seat plays, high octane moments, and that feeling like you're right there in the action. Fox one, we live for live streaming.
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Shadow Sharp
Jacob Brissette if healthy anyway, which I said the Cardinals have some big decisions ahead of them. Shefter Adam Schefter reported that many of his sources around the NFL believe the Cardinals and Murray will part ways in the off season. One source in particular said the separation is imminent, which means unavoidable. Kyler has two season left on a five year, 230 million dollar contract that he signed in 2022. Currently, he's currently slated to count 53.3 million dollars against the salary cap next season and 43.5 million against the cap. In 27, the Carters would take a 57.67 million in dead cap money and next year if Murray is cut before June 1, if he's cut after June, excuse me, if he's cut after June 1, it will split the 50 million into 26, 7.2, 50 point, 50.5 million 26 and 7.2 million 27. If Arizona can't find a trade partner before June 1, the Cardinals will save about 35.3 million towards the cap next season. Oh my God. You were the Cardinals.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Got to catch my breath.
Shadow Sharp
If you're the Cardinals, what are you going to do with Kyler Murray?
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Hey you. This is a very good one. This is a very good one. The fact that they continue to sideline him because Jacobe Brissette has a hot hand and has him playing extremely well and the money that he makes. Listen, I understand what Kyler Murray brings to the table. I understand what he brings. He's a dual threat. He can throw, he can extend plays. He's really good at some of the things he does, but they're things that Jacoby Brissette brings to the table with, with his lack of, of ability to run with the ball. But he's able to throw, make all the throws because he can see he, he attacks the middle of the field. Something that Kyler Murray's not good at because it's hard for him to see. He's always having to, you know, his ability to be able to just drop back and make some, to throw that Jacoby can in the middle of the field. It just, it's just, it's just different. But again, he can make, he can make, he can make plays, he can make. He's good, he's good. He's good at what he does. But it's not enough. I mean, have you seen how the offense looks? Huh?
Shadow Sharp
Yes, I've seen it. Oh, Joe, you remember when they played, they beat the Cowboys? I said, they say, hey, Kyle, take another week. As a matter of fact, take another two, three weeks. Yeah, I. I said. I said that in Jess. But I was being dead serious because the offense, at no point in time with Kyler. Excuse me, at no point in time did this offense this year with Kyler look like it did on Monday night against the Cowboys.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
No, no, no, no. But this is. This is a scary thing we talk about. Jacoby Reset. Are you trying to say he's the. The quarterback for the foreseeable future?
Shadow Sharp
No, no. He. He. Ocho, they told you everything you needed to know when they put that clause in his contract, right?
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Right. Yeah, I understand that. About the. Playing the video games. Yeah, absolutely.
Shadow Sharp
Yes. Yeah.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
I mean, but. But where do you go now? So you just start over.
Shadow Sharp
Ocho, how many. How many division titles you won? How many playoff games you won with Kyler? You can win that many. You can win that many without him.
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Hey, listen, it's been a minute. What's his curve?
Shadow Sharp
Does he make you the mirror? Ocho, think about what you just said. The number one pick of the draft. The coach said if he was healthy, he still wouldn't be starting.
Johnny Manziel
Damn.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shadow Sharp
Let me ask you a question. Joe Burrow come back healthy. Is Flacco still playing?
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Absolutely not.
Shadow Sharp
Thank you.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Oh, whoa. That. That. That's. Hey, that's. Hey, that's apples and oranges now.
Shadow Sharp
But look at the thing is, look, Miami. Look, Miami might be in the business for a quarterback. New Orleans. Damn. Showing the business for a quarterback. The Raider, a damn quarterback. Cleveland possibly need a quarter. Look, there gonna be places he's gonna be able to go. The jets. So it's not like he's not gonna be able to find a home.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah. Oh, oh, hey. Okay. It got to be the right fit on it. It has to be the right fit for the type of quarterback he is.
Shadow Sharp
Yeah, you have to build a system around him. O. And most quarterbacks. Most quarterbacks have a system built around him, right?
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Well, the system was built around him. Yes, the system was built around him. And you got the weapons you Marvin had, my man.
Shadow Sharp
Hey, Mike. Bride. Ocho. But I told people, Ocho, perfect. He's small, not just in height, but wait. Yeah, yeah, he's compact taking those hits like that, man.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
You ever seen him in person?
Odoo Advertiser
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Hey, hey, hey. That's. That's my Dog, he little, though. Yes, he little. He could play some ball, though, man. He's exciting. He's exciting, you know, when. When put in the right position to make. Make make plays. He can do it. He just hasn't been able to do it consistent enough and we able to do it consistent enough. It makes everything, everyone around you better. It makes your team better. It gives you a chance, and it just. It just hasn't been what they thought it would.
Shadow Sharp
Maybe he just need to leave. He. He needs to go somewhere else. You know, maybe. Maybe. Maybe it's a situation where they're tired of him. He's tired of them. It just need a clean break. He just needs a clean break. He's his own. He's his own guy, you know? He has a. He has a personality that's kind of look different. He wants to do things his way. He don't want to, you know, hey, that's how he did it. That's how he did it. This is how I'm gonna do it. But I saw this. I saw this coming, and I'm not. And I'm not. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
What do you think about him going back to base?
Shadow Sharp
Nah. Not being away from it this long, you got to go back to the. Why would I go back to the baseball? Go back to the minor leagues and make 1200amonth? Hell to the no. Somebody gonna pay him 35, 40 million to be the quarterback in the NFL.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
So he okay?
Shadow Sharp
I mean, just. Just because he's not starting in Arizona, right? That doesn't mean he's not Ocho. You mean to tell me he can't play for New Orleans? He can't play for the Raider? He's better than what they got in the Raiders. He's better than what they got at New Orleans. Is he better than what they got at the Jets? Yes or no.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Situation matters.
Odoo Advertiser
It does.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
What you. What you have around you is very, very important. Very important.
Shadow Sharp
I don't care what situation. Is he better than what they got in New Orleans? And he's better what they got at the Raiders? Yeah, and he's better what they got the Jets. He is. He just is. I don't know about anything else. Hell, I'm tempted to say he's better than what they got in Cleveland. You don't think. Oh, Chad, Y' all don't think he better than Dylan Gabriel? So y' all saying he ain't better than Justin Fields? He's not better than Spencer Rallard? What. What's a Tyler Shock Shook. He not better than Shook. He not better than than Pickett and Gino. Okay, okay. Y' all don't think. Y' all don't. Y' all don't. So somebody say he ain't better than what they got in New Orleans. He ain't better than Spencer Rattler or Tyler Shook.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Okay, I'm. I'm reading my chat going fast. God damn. I'm trying to read it. Hey, somebody said I'm so unprofessional. I was never professional in the first place.
Shadow Sharp
Somebody told me. I I'll take rattle over here. I'm not gonna lie. You lying.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Hey, they lying. They. They definitely lied.
Shadow Sharp
I get it. The man. The man is down now. But yeah, y' all not taking no Spencer Rattler, no Tyler Shook over no. No over no Kyler Murray. You're not so stop it.
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Shadow Sharp
Jaden Daniels won't be placed on ir, but There are reportedly wide range of outcomes for when he could return to the film field. According to Jeremy Fowler, the commanders are really playing this by ear. So this is actually a pretty complicated cause because I'm told Daniels could potentially be back in three weeks. I said two to three, two to four weeks. Anyway, after three weeks on that elbow issue, not gonna need surgery most time unless something is really, really wrong. They not, they're not doing surgery on the dislocated elbow. They're not putting on injury reserve right now. But talk to, talking to the team people as a player could return in about five to six weeks. Things here really fast depending on when they revisit around the bye week in about two and a half, three weeks. If they're sitting at three and eight, this could certainly be a factor here. And so they're really playing this one by ear. Yeah, I think, like I said, I don't, like I said, I don't know. All I could say is based it on mine and I had to do this. All you think about, I got to have to block with it.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Right?
Shadow Sharp
He ain't got a block with that. And it's on his non throw. It's on his non throwing.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah. But the cautious thing, the one thing that scares me young, even though it's on his non throwing arm, there wasn't any ligament damage. Let's say he sits out two to three weeks. If their record is no is, is no. It doesn't improve, but it's not.
Shadow Sharp
Yeah. What you rushing him back for?
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
No, there's no point in rushing them back. There's no point in rushing back. And I, I think this will probably be his last game played this season because there's really nothing to play for at that point. You're out the playoffs. No need to risk any further injury or, or re injuring or getting yourself hurt, you know, at that point and you just, you prepare yourself for next season. That, that's just me now. Now the commanders might feel differently. Being the competitor that I know Jaden Daniels is, he might feel differently. Regardless of what our record is, I want to get out there and play. But hey, I, I, I don't think, I don't think you should chance it, especially if there's no chance at making the playoffs.
Shadow Sharp
I agree. I said the same thing about your quarterback in Cincinnati.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Why you keep bringing up my Bengals?
Shadow Sharp
Cause if there ain't no chance to go, what we bringing Joe back for?
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah, he wouldn't come back anyway, though. If we don't, if we don't Have a chance. He wouldn't be coming back. But the fact that we have Flacco and Flacco's playing the way he's playing, we probably will be in the playoffs. We're probably going to win.
Shadow Sharp
Oh, y'. All. On the bye week. Oh, y'. All. Yeah, y' all just gave. Y' all about to give up 42.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Hey, hey.
Shadow Sharp
Nobody give a 42.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
We will see who we'll. We.
Shadow Sharp
Y' all ain't gonna beat y'. All. Y' all not gonna. Y' all not going to beat the Steelers. Y' all not gonna beat. What you call them again. Y'. All.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Hold on. You mean the same Steelers? You mean the same Steelers we beat s. Thursday night or Sunday night? That same Steelers?
Shadow Sharp
You're not gonna do it again, though.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Okay?
Shadow Sharp
Not gonna happen. Not gonna happen.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Okay.
Shadow Sharp
Definitely not gonna be Lamar in the Ravens.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
How you.
Shadow Sharp
Y' all could be. Y' all couldn't beat him when they had Lamar. And y.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
You just listen. It's the NFL. It's Sunday. Any given Sunday, ain't no telling what's gonna happen.
Shadow Sharp
So it don't matter when y' all play. You right? Any given Sunday, Saturday, y' all gonna. Y' all can lose. And you do most of the time.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
All right? Keep that same energy.
Shadow Sharp
Got it.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Keep that same energy.
Shadow Sharp
Oh, yo, leave us alone, man. Hey.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Hey. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. Let me see. I saw how the Ravens look coming out the back. I saw how the Ravens. The Ravens look good coming out that back. Lamar Jackson, back from injury after two, three weeks down, came out on fire. So how you think we gonna come out out the buy? How you think Flacco and Uno and Chase and Chase Brown. How you think we gonna look coming out the back? The defense is gonna be. The defense is going to improve exponentially. That's a big word for me. Exponentially. I can't even spell that, but I can say.
Shadow Sharp
I know. But guess what, Ocho? I watched. Go. Go back and look at it. Go back and look at how Chicago was moving y' all guys off the ball.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The gate. Listen, the game. The game is one and lost in it up front. It's one in the trenches.
Shadow Sharp
That was. That was ugly, Ocho. That was ugly.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
It was.
Shadow Sharp
Darvin Ham said the Lakers had to put their roster, had to gut their roster for Russell Westbrook, and that's hard to compete with so many level. So many lower level role players. But in terms of Russ Mann, you know, it was a difficult situation. Cause to get a player like that you pretty much have to gut your team. And that's essentially what happened. In order to get Russ on the Lakers, they had to part ways with Caruso, kcp, Kyle Kuzma and a lot of other players they weren't able to keep because the money wasn't there. Now you've got essentially three max, super max players on your roster and you know, now you've got to go after lower level players who, God blessed them, they're capable players. But to be elite and win a championship in our league, you have to be elite and have elite groups. A lot of times that financial constraints just won't allow you to do that.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah, I just, I just came to understanding that, I just came to having a better understanding of that. Especially when it comes to basketball, how you bench, you know, having to having a deep bench and being able to, to have some of your starters sit down and, and still not miss a beat. It's still not miss any momentum. You know, when they're not in the game. I think about the bench. Oklahoma City Thunder, they have an unbelievable bench. If, if, if I'm not, if I'm not mistaken, they might have the best bench in the league. I.
Shadow Sharp
Yes.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Shadow Sharp
They do. Yeah.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
And I mean like so I, I understand and I didn't view it like that. I didn't understand it. I didn't, I didn't understand why people were complaining about getting Westbrook. You know, I'm thinking, oh hell, they, they, oh, they finna run the table. Oh, it's gonna be crazy. And then damn, the bench is horrible. The supporting cast wasn't good enough to carry the load when all the starters weren't in or you always had to kept keep one of said top three players in the game at, at, at some point. I didn't know that. I forgot nobody that much.
Shadow Sharp
Nobody thought Russ would work with LeBron in LA. Except the Lakers. You won't find one player in order for Russ to work. Russ needs the ball and you need to build the ball the, the team around him. This is not to take anything away from Russ. Russ is a 70, is a top 75 player all time. He's an MVP, a two time All Star, all NBA. But he wasn't good with the Lakers. And it's okay to say that. Yeah, hey, Kevin Braun just wasn't gonna work because neither one is really. LeBron is made was better off the ball than Russ.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Right.
Shadow Sharp
Russ is Not a catch and shoot guy. And so when you need LeBron with LeBron, LeBron was going to be the primary ball handler. You need somebody that can catch and shoot. That's why he would been so that's why Klay Thompson would have been great. That's why when you see him play with Steph, they're so great. Cause those guys can catch and shoot. That's not Russ. What? Russ is right. Russ is a guy that needs the ball and he needs to be able to get downhill. Well, if LeBron's got the ball, how's he going to get downhill? It's okay. Chad. This is not a knock on Russ. And then when you say this, this is not taking away anything that he's ever accomplished. And he wasn't good with the Lakers. Y' all know that. But I guess because he's from LA and he does great in the community and he is a solid teammate, nobody has anything bad to say about Russ. He just wasn't good with the Lakers. It's okay. You see, when he was in OKC after KD left, they built the team around him. That's what you need. It's okay, Darvin. And please stop talking about it, bro. You had whatever. For whatever reason, it didn't work. It didn't work with you. It didn't work with Russ. It didn't. It didn't work. It's okay. It's okay to move on.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah, somebody. Somebody probably asked him the question.
Shadow Sharp
Yeah, but, but, but, but just like, hey, guys, look, I enjoyed my time there. I understood the assignment. When you got a team and you got LeBron James and you got Anthony Davis, no matter who else expect. No matter who else is on that team.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Right.
Shadow Sharp
Championships is what expected. I don't. I. I don't get why they did. I don't get why they broke that team up, why they wouldn't resign. Caruso, where they left all their perimeter defenders, they let that go. It's the same thing. Now, the Lakers are not a good defensive team. Yeah, they're not. But we got to stop this notion. And it's not bagging on Russ, but Russ needs a. Russ needs to be in a system that's conducive for him. And that's okay. It's just. Yeah, they just. Man, they just.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
He have. He having a good time over there in Sacramento now.
Shadow Sharp
Yes. But that guy. They not gonna win Sacramento. Have no championship aspirations.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
No.
Shadow Sharp
Not winning no championship. And it's okay. It's okay.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Got got me thinking about my times huh?
Shadow Sharp
Russ look. Russ played. Russ look. That one thing you could say about Russ, he not gonna cheat you with effort. He gonna give you everything he got. He gonna play hurt. He gonna play hard. But we with this. This notion that Russ bald out in la, he didn't. It just. The pieces didn't fit. The pieces just didn't fit.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Right.
Shadow Sharp
Him and LeBron was never gonna work. The only people that thought it was gonna work was probably Pelinka and LeBron or. Because I'm sure LeBron had something to do with this, right? He did, he did, but it just. It didn't work. It's not the first time. That's not the first situation that's been in the NBA and it didn't work right. And that's okay. It's not the last situation that. That won't work. But Darvin needs to move on with this, man. It's just.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Damn.
Shadow Sharp
I don't. I don't know what he. What he hopes to accomplish by revisiting this. SGA said he wasn't a fan of how the Thunder won the title. Honestly speaking, I didn't like the way we won the title, if that makes sense. I don't think we won an NBA championship playing our best basketball. We were definitely more dominant in the regular season, in the postseason. And for me, as well as a player, I don't think that was good in the postseason as I am in the wreck as I was in the regular season.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
I mean, the game is different in postseason too.
Shadow Sharp
They don't let you get up and down.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah, they don't.
Shadow Sharp
You play better teams in a. In a series. It's not, you know, they get seven games to try to figure you out. It's not like, okay, you play Sacramento, then you're on the San Antonio, then you got the Clippers. Okay, guess what? We got a home and we got a back to back. We got Clippers one night, we got the Lakers the next night. No, you got that one opponent and you got it, you know, because they went seven games with the Nuggets. They went seven games with the. The Pacers.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah.
Shadow Sharp
And Aaron Gordon, If Aaron Gordon doesn't hurt his hamstring in that game self, what happens?
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
It changes everything.
Shadow Sharp
Okay? If Halliburton doesn't tear the Achilles in games in game seven, what happened changes everything. I get it. Yeah, they. They look. And right now they're doing. I think they lost one game and they're doing this without J Dub. So I, I like his mentality. I like his mindset. It's like, I would. I want to be dominant.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah.
Shadow Sharp
I want to be dominant in the postseason like I was in the regular season. Even though he. There. There were spurs that. He was sensational. But they won. And that's. That's what you need. You need your best player to say, you know what? I ain't satisfied. And I don't want anybody else to get satisfied. I don't want anybody else to get comfortable. Yeah, we won a championship, but I ain't here to just win one. Multiple, multiple, multiple. And now they got. Hartenstein had 33 and 19 last night. Well, if you. If you getting 33 and 19 from Hartenstein, you're not beating them. Hey, you're not beating them.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Hardenstein is the center. He's. He's the five, right?
Shadow Sharp
Yeah, that's.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
That's. That's crazy, man.
Shadow Sharp
J Dub hadn't played yet.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
When J Dub does play, he the foe, right?
Shadow Sharp
J Dub is a two.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
That's all.
Shadow Sharp
Him. And look, I mean, Lou Dort is, like, really the two, but he's really a two. He play a small forward, okay? Because they go Hardenstein, they go Chat, they go J Dub, they go Lou Dort, they go, Shay.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Oh, boy. In person. But them boys so tall, man. Yeah, God damn.
Shadow Sharp
Yeah, but I like. I like Shay's mentality. I like his attitude. I like the fact that, like, yeah, we won, but I ain't happy how we won.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Nah, that should have been a Hooper, man.
Shadow Sharp
An anonymous scout. Oo. Anonymous scout says Lamelo Ball doesn't take basketball seriously. Yes, he's talented, but he doesn't take basketball serious enough. Another west scout said it's hard to build a winner with him because of how he plays and the liberties he takes for himself when he plays.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
So.
Shadow Sharp
Because I don't. I don't know.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Because he plays. He plays the game with flair. He plays the game a little bit more free than others.
Shadow Sharp
Tell me. Tell me the person that's in the history of the game, that's what played with flair and won.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Jordan, Magic. Jordan, Magic. Kobe.
Shadow Sharp
That stuff that he. That stuff he's doing. And they ain't play like that. No. You looking at elevating above the rim now. Magic with the passes and stuff like that, but they didn't play like. I mean, he tried all kind of stuff on the court. Step back, shooting 32 footers.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Oh, but they be going in, huh? Hey. They be going in. Hey. He'd be going, hey, listen, he's exciting to watch. He's exciting to watch. Now, his style of play might. Might not be that of what NBA scouts would like, you know, from. From their point guard or from the person that's handling the ball. But I tell you one thing, as a fan of the game, he's exciting to watch. He's the type of player. He's gonna put buts in the seat. Now, maybe you want to tell him to tone it down. Jason Williams was the same way. White Chocolate. White Chocolate was the same way with that goddamn ball. Unbelievable. Especially with the passes and stuff. And if I'm not mistaken, I heard the stories about once he was here with the Miami Heat. It was like, hey, man, you got. You got to cut all that out.
Shadow Sharp
No, no, you got to cut.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
You got to cut. Yeah, you got to cut all that out. But listen, if they don't want him where he's at, sit him on down. Hit us then.
Shadow Sharp
And plus, he don't. Plus he in Charlotte.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah.
Shadow Sharp
A few people say, well, magic had to flare. So which player that is Lamelo playing with? That's Kareem or James Worthy. Right. Or Bob McAdoo or Jamal Wilks or Michael Cooper. So I just want to dip which one of those guys?
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah.
Shadow Sharp
So maybe it has something to do with being in Charlotte.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah. You take him out the equation, who you going to watch? No disrespect.
Shadow Sharp
Nobody.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
My point. My point exactly.
Shadow Sharp
Nobody.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
My point exactly. And he's not even the type of player that plays above the rim. So the fact that he brings all those other qualities to his game, that makes it fun to come watch and sit down. That. Listen, that. That lets you know how good he is.
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Shadow Sharp
He's a phenomenal talent, but he don't play defense. So now you go turn the ball over, and now you're not gonna play defense.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah, yeah, You.
Colin Coward
You.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
You. You minimize those turnovers. You. You'll be all right. You'll be right.
Shadow Sharp
But they don't have, like. It's like, you go, look. You look at the team that won. You look at okc, they got, like, six, seven guys that play defense, so they're never going to be on the court without four, like, three solid defenders. So, yeah, you know, you got Chet defending the paint. You got Lou Door own ball. You got J. Will on ball. You got a. You got Case Caruso. I mean, you just got Guy. They just run guy after guy after guy after guy at you.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
You know what? Also, when I think about it, when it comes to players that are. Are heavily dominant on the offensive, on the offensive side, of the ball for what they lack on defense, they make up on offense. In other areas. In other areas where. Where most. Where most. Where some. You get some players that. That are kind of balancing both, but they're not as good, you know, in.
Shadow Sharp
The officer end, I think the thing is, Ocho, but here's the problem that you run into, because now you get in a nip and tuck game if you go watch what. What did Minnesota do? They keep Luke in the pick and roll. As great as he is. Offense, we want you on defense now, right? What you gonna do? And they get whatever they want. They get a layup, they get a foul, they get an easy jumper. See, that's the problem that you run into because at some point in time now, you ain't gonna just blow people out.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
No.
Shadow Sharp
So you can't have three, four guys on the court that don't play defense. Yeah, you can't. Cause in a close ball game, they're gonna get whatever. They're gonna get whatever shot they want. But unfortunately, I don't know, Carolina not go. I mean, Charlotte's not gonna trade him.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Trade him if you want to. I tell you, he's the only guy.
Shadow Sharp
That you come to see. Oh. Oo. Time to play. Play or fade. Presented by prize picks. Here's their three pick part power play of head of football Sunday. Alec Pierce, more than three receptions versus the Falcons in Berlin.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Oh, so, hey, they play in Berlin tomorrow, huh?
Shadow Sharp
Yeah.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
So the game. Come on. What, 6:30, 6, 37:30. Which one?
Shadow Sharp
Probably nine. No, it'll be nine your time, right? Yeah. 9:30 your time.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Shadow Sharp
I'll catch you the second half.
Odoo Advertiser
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Shadow Sharp
I catch it. I catch the second half.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
I'm trying. I'm trying to think.
Shadow Sharp
Titus finally got on his clock. He like. Oh, they set the clocks back, huh? Yeah, they did. James cook more than 87 yards rushing against the Dolphins.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
More, More. Yeah.
Shadow Sharp
Oh, Alex, how many receptions you gonna have? Four receptions. Alec Pierce.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah, yeah, of course, of course, of course.
Shadow Sharp
How many catches he got?
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
He gonna get more than four because they just got rid of A.D. mitchell. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So. So those targets are gonna go to go to go to Pierce or Ed Pittman.
Shadow Sharp
Oh, yeah. Okay, we going more. James Cook. Oh, he getting more than 87 against the Dolphins.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah.
Shadow Sharp
Rico Dowdle more than 110 total yards rushing and receiving versus the Saints.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Man, anything with Rico Dowdle in it is up.
Shadow Sharp
Yep, I like that more. Isaiah likely more than three receptions. He needs to have three receptions or More against the Vikings, of course.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
That's it.
Shadow Sharp
Hey, you come on again. So you come on. You come on. Nightcap. Oh, you about to ball out.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Every time.
Shadow Sharp
You about the ball out.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Everybody.
Shadow Sharp
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Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Absolutely not. He'll be all right. He gonna be all right.
Shadow Sharp
J.J. carver, Johnny on here, looking like Weekend at Bernie's. Thomas Beatty. Two questions for you guys. Where does Omar Cooper's catch stack up with other pass catches in both college and the NFL? And second, do you. Do you see any IU players making it to the NFL? Well, the quarterback is a high rated prospect. A lot of people say he might be the first pick of the draft. Yeah, look, Indiana. I mean, I'm trying to fake him. Top Indiana players. Only one I can really think over the top of my head is Anthony Thompson. He came out with me as a running back. You know any Indiana players? Football players?
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Where did Antoine Randall go?
Shadow Sharp
I think he might have went down. Antoine Randall.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
I'm. I'm. I might. I might be wrong. I'm. I'm not sure. I might. I might be wrong, but I thought. I thought it might have been Indian. I could be wrong.
Shadow Sharp
He might have.
Odoo Advertiser
Did.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
I can't. I can't remember. I just.
Shadow Sharp
I know I. I came my year. Anthony Thompson came out. Yeah. Anton. Antoine Randall did go to. You okay?
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah, that's. Yeah, that's the only person I remember.
Shadow Sharp
That's not what they're known for. But that was an unbelievable catch. Given the circumstances.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yes.
Shadow Sharp
Given what was needed and got the DB was trying to push him out of bounds and for him to get a foot down.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
That was dope. That was.
Shadow Sharp
Hey, quarterback said, I'm gonna put it right up under the goal post. You go get it. Yeah. And he went and got it.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
That was dope. And they. They also.
Shadow Sharp
Nah, y' all don't get no pennies. Junior Penny junior Graduated from what you call him, Washington. Don't do that. People try to clap because. Because Ohio State don't get Jameson Williams. Ohio State don't get Joe Burrow because that's not where he finished his career at. What if you try to. What if you try to hate.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Thank you.
Shadow Sharp
Marquez, Duffy, McDuffie said. Oo. Ash, what are your three favorite college football catches ever? Oh, that.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Oh, ever, man, please. That's hard. Ever.
Shadow Sharp
Yeah, bad luck.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Hey, that's, that's difficult.
Shadow Sharp
Yeah, you, you should have came out. Better ask about the NFL, man.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah, in, in NFL, I say it's, it's some really good Chris Carter. Brandon Lloyd. Chris Carter.
Shadow Sharp
Oh, any, any catch Brandon Lloyd made. Hey, people don't, people don't forgot about. Can you imagine Brandon Lloyd with the, get with the glove today? Oo that they.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
You, man, please, man, please.
Shadow Sharp
People think f. People think F and cc, but Brandon Lloyd making catches. I'm like this, dude catching. I'm talking about the ball on the ground. I mean, he catching the ball underground like this.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah, yeah, he was nice. Brandon was nice, boy.
Shadow Sharp
Oh, and one. Oh, he put one hand, like catching.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
The, like, he got, he got multiple one hands, though.
Akeem Meador King
He does.
Shadow Sharp
Multiple. And I got an opportunity to see him in Denver a lot, you know, in the 49ers. Yeah, man, he was. Alec B. Thank you, Uncle Nocho for giving us the best podcast to watch and listen to. Alex, thank you for watching Tito Davis. We need Jeremiah Smith on the show. Well, if you know how we can get in contact with him, we'd absolutely love to have him on the show.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
I, I, I can call him up.
Shadow Sharp
Nick Mars. Oh, talk about running for prayers, fixing the debt and no government shutdown. Been on two years, child, please. I agree.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Hey, you, you heard, you heard what he said. I've been on you two years. But why wouldn't we be shut down? We wouldn't be shut down because of the very fact that I want to make sure everything stays up and running the correct way.
Shadow Sharp
Well, you do realize that we was up and running short the, the way, you know them premium about to go up, right?
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah.
Shadow Sharp
A family of four is paying about 500 in pre insurance per month. About to be $2,000 a month.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
You, you know what they doing? You know, listen, they know what they're doing. This is all the game. This is always, this is all the part playing. I don't, I don't, I don't want to make this a political podcast. I could get into that, but I don't want to get into that. I don't, people don't need to see that side of me because that, that's, that's, that's, that's really not my thing. That's not my thing, but I just know what they doing.
Odoo Advertiser
Yeah.
Shadow Sharp
True and infamous 73. If you, if you're a Laker fan and the Laker lost, you can't say basket or ball. I didn't see the game tonight. Did they lose?
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yep. So that mean you can't say basket or ball. Matter of fact, you can't say any.
Shadow Sharp
Word that starts talking basketball right now. It's football season. Go watch tape before y' all speak on J Rod. Matter of fact, go watch TT Texas Tech's defense. The Johnny Talk about nobody pop out on tape. Top five defense. Well, you know what, you know, the thing is they're gonna have to make a decision here in the next next month. Yeah, I just don't know. I. Like I said, a defensive player winning that award and now is as good a time as any to win it because ain't nobody having a Joe Burrow type season. Ain't nobody having a Barry Sanders tag season. Ain't nobody having a. A Devonte Smith type season or Travis.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Right. I don't think people understand how special you have to be as a defensive player in college to be considered for a Heisman. Just because he's saying people popping out on film because collectively as a whole, you guys have a good defense. It's always one person. And that one person always rises to the cage in regards to who you playing consistently week in and week out. Not playing a great as a whole. As a unit, we're talking about one individual.
Shadow Sharp
Yeah.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
All over the place. Popping out on film. No matter who the F they playing. There's a huge difference in that. That is not in college football today. It's not. Remember when Lavar Arrington was playing?
Shadow Sharp
Yeah.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Julius Peppers.
Shadow Sharp
Yeah.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
I mean, I'm like that. That type of popping out every week. Oh, I got to watch this MF play. I got to turn the TV on because so and so is playing today. Man, ain't nothing like that out there on defense.
Shadow Sharp
I mean, think about it, ocho. In the 100 plus year history of the NFL, there have been two defensive guys to win MVP as a defensive player. Lawrence Taylor and Alan Page. And now two guys have won. Charles Woodson was a primarily defensive player. Travis Hunter, back and forth. So they've been having the Heisman trophy since what, 1936? Yeah, I think that's the poll. I think Jay Burwanger was the first one to win the award in 36. I think that's also the poll era.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
35.
Shadow Sharp
Jay Burwanger. So how many defensive players? And so now you say now after all these guys, Derek Thomas with 25 sacks. He didn't win it. Teddy Bruski had 20 plus sacks. He didn't win it. Yeah, Tara Suggs had 24 sacks. He ain't winning.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Do you know what the Heism trophy.
Shadow Sharp
Was originally called in 1935? It's called the Downtown.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
36. They renamed it to the Heism Trophy.
Shadow Sharp
Damn.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Question.
Shadow Sharp
It would have your ass. Yeah, I just know it's at the. I don't even think it's at the Downtown. Is it still at the Downtown Athletic Club? They still hold it there. I think that was. I look, like I said, it's just like. It's just so hard for a defensive player to win that award. Yeah, very difficult when the game has been catered to so much offense.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
But. But you know, even though the game has been catered to the offense, that's how you have to be that special as a defensive player to even be considered to win it though. And it's still. It's still possible. Okay, it's still. It's still possible. It's still possible.
Shadow Sharp
T.J. watt had 22 and a half sacks. Did he win the award?
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Absolutely not.
Shadow Sharp
Michael Strahan had 22 and a half sacks. Did he win the award?
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Absolutely.
Shadow Sharp
It's hard for a primarily defensive player. It's a linebacker, a middle, if you maybe an edge rusher. He gets 25, 30 sacks. Oo, okay, yeah. Now we on to something. Now you got to hope a quarterback don't throw for 5050 touchdowns. It's. If a defensive player was going to win it, probably be the year to win it. Oo, because they really nobody just like, like, hi, look at me, look at.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Me, look at me.
Shadow Sharp
There are really no offensive guy out there like that.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah.
Shadow Sharp
Who's to say Jeremiah Smith might get a. Might get a trip to New York. I'm not so sure. He not the best player in the country.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Listen, if he can come out this year, he'd be number one.
Shadow Sharp
Came out last year, he might have been number one.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
He might have been number one. Yeah, well, yeah, hey, hold on now. I think about it. They need to change that rule, man, because he should be coming out this year. The fact that he even has.
Shadow Sharp
They should have traded for Adrian Peterson, the Herschel Walker, because they damn sure could have came out as freshman.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Oh, well, they were different, man. Yeah, it was grown men amongst boys.
Shadow Sharp
But you know what? At least he get to make four, five million dollars a year. He got a little something put his pocket.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shadow Sharp
And then, you know, he take it out of big. He probably got a 20 million dollar lawyers in London, maybe even more. Laws of London policy.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
You're gonna be nice, man.
Shadow Sharp
You'll be all right.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Gonna be nice.
Shadow Sharp
Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite dog, Shadow Sharp. And that is my partner and co host.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Hey, matter of fact, I know we ending the show. God damn, we started the show. I'm. I'm peeking down at my phone while we talking college football, trying to see the goddamn Erickson, Lubin and Virgil Ortiz fight, man. Fight lasted. Goddamn one in and out. Fight was over.
Shadow Sharp
Ortiz got him out of there and.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
Got him out of there. Got him out of there, huh? Got him out of there. And so him not. Not Boots. Boots and Ortiz at some point are gonna fight. And that might be the biggest fight in a long time for me. I mean, obviously Canelo. Canelo Crawford was big, but hey, no.
Shadow Sharp
It ain't gonna be bigger than Bud and Canelo.
Co-host (possibly 'Ocho')
No, no, not that big, but it's. It's the biggest. It's going to be the biggest after that. To me.
Shadow Sharp
Yeah. We want to thank our special college analyst for joining us tonight, Johnny Manzel as well. Please make sure y' all hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank each and every one of you for your eyes, ears, and word of mouth for helping Nightcap become what we've become. Thank you for your support and your continued support. Make sure you check out Shay by Laportier. Go to laportierconjac.com to grab you a bottle if you can't find it in a city or state near you. Excuse me. Order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. The best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Go follow my media company page on all of its platforms. Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned into the chat. Again, we want to thank Johnny for joining us and Akeem Mezador, who had an outstanding night tonight for the UM as they beat Syracuse. He had four tackles, a sack and a half, so he played extremely well. Alabama beats LSU by the score of 20 to 9. Texas A&M beat Missouri 38, 17. Fernando Mendoza threw a touchdown pass with 36 seconds left on the clock as they rally to beat Penn State 27 24. The number 16. Vanderbilt Commodores won in overtime keep their slim playoff hopes alive by the score of 45:38 over Auburn gonna Stockton through three touchdown passes at the number five Georgia Bulldogs beat Mississippi State Bulldogs by the score of 41 to 21 and Texas Tech number eight Texas Tech beat number seven BYU 297 to remain unbeaten and strengthen their push for the college playoffs in Oregon on a field goal with three seconds left on the clock by Atticus Sappington of 39 yards went 18 to 16. Thank you guys for joining us tonight. We'll see you tomorrow after the game is Green Bay and Philly right after the Green Bay Philly game on Sunday night. I'm Uncle Ocho. We'll see you tomorrow for all things NFL. Thank you guys for joining us. We're out.
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Date: November 9, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Co-Host: (Possibly Ocho/Ochocinco)
Guests: Johnny Manziel, Akeem Mesidor
Podcast Feed: Nightcap
The episode brings together NFL legend Shannon Sharpe, co-host Ocho, and guests Johnny Manziel and Miami Hurricane standout Akeem Mesidor to break down the day's biggest college football action. The conversation focuses on Oregon’s narrow CFP-saving win, Miami’s explosive victory over Syracuse, analysis of quarterback performances, and extended talk with Mesidor about his journey from Canada to NCAA D1—plus fresh takes on NFL quarterback situations and NBA roster-building.
The episode’s tone is lively, candid, and occasionally comedic, with heated debates, anecdotes, and a look behind the scenes of college and pro football.
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For listeners who missed this episode: This recap delivers the full sweep of the panel’s opinions, highlights, and humor, with direct speaker attributions and timestamps to catch up on the best moments without adverts or filler.