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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, after, after today, unless they until they hire head coach or they re sign Mike McCarthy, they get a big player in free agency or they do something, we're going to be done talking about the Cowboys.
Unknown Speaker
We done.
Chad Ochocinco
Especially if it does coming from Michael Parsons. Michael Parsons said the Cowboys will win the super bowl next year. He said going to be an amazing thing to see next year when we're holding that trophy. I take nothing that he says. I take everything he said with a grain of salt because he said a couple of years ago they're going to have a Baltimore Ravens, a Tampa Bay Buccaneer or Seattle Seahawks defense.
Unknown Speaker
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
He said this was going to be the year. So. Because the thing is, he just had like Joe, like when Joe Namath did what he did. Everybody remembers that, but there's no ramification if it doesn't come true. Oh, he just said that. Everybody only remembers when he said it.
Unknown Speaker
Right?
Chad Ochocinco
So I'm going to be done because I think now, like he's doing his podcast on more regularly, right? And he wants to say that. Oh man, you heard Michael say so after today, I want you to get everything that you want to say about the Cowboys until they hire or they fire Mike McCarthy.
Unknown Speaker
Right?
Chad Ochocinco
They get somebody in free agency. We done. We're not, we're not doing this. We're not, we're not doing this anymore. I mean, because I think now he just, he just said, he just saying stuff to get clicks on his podcast and that's fine. That's fine. Hey, have at it. I'm not Going to knock the man for the hustle. Right, but he just talk. He's just talking ridiculous.
Unknown Speaker
Okay, but you know that. That's his team. I mean, is it. Is he allowed to have the belief that they're. They have a chance to win the super bowl next year?
Chad Ochocinco
Did he have the belief last year?
Unknown Speaker
I believe so.
Chad Ochocinco
Ash, look up. When was the last team to win the super bowl and they didn't make the playoffs the previous year? When was the last team to win the super bowl and they hadn't been to the end of. To a championship game in 30 years? How are they going to win the super bowl when he doesn't even believe his quarterback is top five? You remember they was naming the top five quarterbacks and he left his quarterback out?
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, yeah, I remember.
Chad Ochocinco
He talks more about a quarterback that doesn't do anything for him than he does his own.
Unknown Speaker
Right? Damn. Huh? I remember.
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on. I don't know if you remember, but I remember that. I think they might have suspended. They might have suspended T o when he was hyping Brett Favre and talking and they asked him a question. You remember that?
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, I know.
Chad Ochocinco
They asked him a question.
Unknown Speaker
I know exactly what you're talking about. I know exactly what you're talking about.
Chad Ochocinco
This man talking about, ooh, Joe Burrow, he got to be the mvp.
Unknown Speaker
I mean, he's right about that.
Chad Ochocinco
But they ain't got the 20. The 2019 Buccaneers was the last team that didn't make the playoffs the previous year that won the Super Bowl.
Unknown Speaker
See?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Hey, you never know.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, Is Tom Brady. Is Tom Brady coming out of retirement?
Unknown Speaker
Absolutely not.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, but you gotta realize if you. The year before Jameis threw for 5,200 yards.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Look at what they had. They had Mike Evans, they had Chris Godwin, they had talent. And that defense, Devin White, they had Levonte David. They drafted Vita Vea. They had Vita Vea. Look at the corners that they had. They were loaded. They just needed a quarterback that just wouldn't turn the damn ball over.
Unknown Speaker
That's all. That's it.
Chad Ochocinco
And that's all they needed.
Unknown Speaker
That's what they got.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm not saying that. I'm not saying any other quarterback. I'm not saying they would have won the super bowl with any other quarterback, but they would have been a playoff team. Right? With any other quarterback. If you just cut half those. If you just cut half the turnovers, because I think he had 36. So you take that down to 18, they're in the playoffs. They won nine games.
Unknown Speaker
Matter of fact, Jameis Winston season, he threw 33 touchdowns and 32. 33 picks.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, 30. That was the season before Tom Brady got there, right?
Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
So that just goes to show you. So just say, Ocho, if he cuts half those interceptions, because that's what Brady did. I just. I like. Just be realistic, bro. You just be talking.
Unknown Speaker
Make it funny, man.
Chad Ochocinco
How y'all would do you. Did you realize your defense. Your defense was terrible?
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, they was bad.
Chad Ochocinco
Your defense was terrible. Y'all couldn't stop the run. Y'all couldn't stop a parked car with an Uzi.
Unknown Speaker
Wait.
Chad Ochocinco
They couldn't guard a park. They couldn't guard nothing on Joe.
Unknown Speaker
You couldn't stop.
Chad Ochocinco
Let's go, pull up the numbers. Let's go, pull up the numbers. In Russia, T ran wild. Derrick Henry ran wild. Who else ran wild? Philly ran wild the first time on him. Who else ran wild on him?
Unknown Speaker
Hey.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, you remember the Saints. You remember. Saints open today.
Unknown Speaker
Y'all gave up 40 points week one and week two.
Chad Ochocinco
Week one. Hey.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah. Saints went, hey.
Chad Ochocinco
And we know what the Saints turned out to be, right?
Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
And the next week, they played. Who they played? Was it the Ravens? They played for Saints week two. Oh, they know they beat Cleveland. And everybody was up in arms and I said, hold on. Slide. Slow down. I want to see them play. When somebody have a competent offensive line, they're starting two guys that hadn't taken snaps in the NFL and everybody was, oh, and the Cowboy. Oh, yeah.
Unknown Speaker
I said, okay, because you just had to wait and see.
Chad Ochocinco
Ravens, Saints and Ravens. Then they beat. They beat the Giants and Steelers and.
Unknown Speaker
Then whatever, it was downhill from there.
Chad Ochocinco
Lost to the Lions 47, nine. Remember, get. That's when they was running trick plays. They throw back shoulder phase to the. To a tackle. They run a hook and lateral to the tackle.
Unknown Speaker
Tackle. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
That's what they found. So much of y'all defense. Name the time you've ever seen a team run a hook and lateral to a tackle. They threw a back shoulder fade to a tackle. Yeah, but that's the defense that's going to take you. That's going to the Super Bowl. Who didn't play after the Lions lost to the Niners. Boo. Boo. Falcons, Eagles. Oh, all I hear is lost. I don't hear nothing about no Dubs.
Unknown Speaker
Right. Hey, listen, you gotta believe in this team, huh? You gotta say all the right things, especially for that. For that. Brink that. For that.
Chad Ochocinco
Say, we're gonna be better than what we were this year, huh? Say we're gonna be better. Okay, first of all, your quarterback hadn't been able to stay healthy consistently instead.
Unknown Speaker
Of going to the extreme, huh?
Chad Ochocinco
We're gonna be better.
Unknown Speaker
Right?
Chad Ochocinco
But don't you guys gotta be better now? All I know think about with y'all in that building, y'all don't win in your own. How you gonna go to the super bowl, and you can't win in your own building?
Unknown Speaker
At home. Yeah. Hey, did they go over eight at home or. They did.
Chad Ochocinco
They won one game. They won two. They might have won two games at home. Who they beat at home? They beat. They beat the Giants in Carolina. Right. Or they beat Carolina on the road. They beat. Okay, they beat the Bucks and the Giants at home. There'd be one playoff team all year, right? The Bucks. They beat Washington.
Unknown Speaker
Right?
Chad Ochocinco
They beat the Steelers. They beat the Steelers, Washington and the Bucks, okay? They had a couple quality wins, okay?
Unknown Speaker
They won three. One, two, three.
Chad Ochocinco
No, they won two at home. They beat the Steelers on the road. Remember? They beat the Steelers on, like a Sunday night, I think. But they're not. They're not that good. They're a long way from a suit. First of all, you're not gonna go to a Super bowl because your own ain't gonna let you. Oh, your owner not gonna let you. That's your problem. And y'all. Y'all. The culture of the Cowboys is talking. That's what the owner does.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
That's what these players do.
Unknown Speaker
He in the way, huh?
Chad Ochocinco
Yep. That's what they do. They talk. So ojo, the Cowboys also blocked McCarthy from talking to the Bears for one more week. They have an exclusive, like Wednesday, but they had a one week exclusive. Exclusive rights window.
Unknown Speaker
What?
Chad Ochocinco
So a week from today, if they don't have anything done, which I don't expect it gonna be gone, and they.
Unknown Speaker
Doing it on purpose. What's the point? You had plenty opportunity. If you were Gonna sign Mike McCarthy, you could have done it at any other time. You could sign anything.
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Unknown Speaker
What is Jerry. What is Jerry doing? That's his call, right? That's his call to.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes, absolutely.
Unknown Speaker
That. That. That makes absolutely no sense. That abs. That makes absolutely no sense to hold a man hostage because he wanted to pay him. You would have paid him already. You would have paid him already. Let the man go. Let the man find another job somewhere else. And I think he's probably holding on to him until he finds out who.
Chad Ochocinco
Who's available?
Unknown Speaker
Bingo. Who gonna be the.
Chad Ochocinco
But here's the thing, Ocho. He want coaches to take an incentive based contract. He thinks it's an honor. And look, there's only one of 32. It is.
Unknown Speaker
It is kind of an honor to coach the Cowboys, though.
Chad Ochocinco
No, it's an honor to coach in the NFL. Cause there's only 32 jobs.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
But Ocho, on an incentive based contract with everybody else, is getting eight, nine, $10 million a year. And you think I'm about to take four to five plus and cent. Oh, hell no. No. Oh, hell no. And plus, you're not gonna let me do my job. You do all the talking. What? What general manager? What owner has his own show? Radio show?
Unknown Speaker
None. None.
Chad Ochocinco
Now, you already took a shot at Mike McCarthy. You said maybe the plays you call a little archaic. That what you said. Now you say, hey, Mike McCarthy is a winner. Mike McCarthy win.
Unknown Speaker
Hey, he gonna always say. He gonna say. Always say the right things and don't know what he talking about. He don't know what he talking about half the time, man.
Chad Ochocinco
No, he doesn't. But who's surprised by that? Coach prime says he would consider an NFL coaching job if he could coach your door. And Shiloh. Take a listen to Ocho, to what Coach prime had to say.
Unknown Speaker
It is plant that seed, boy.
Chad Ochocinco
The only way I would consider continuing is that I'm coaching my sons, plural, not singularly plural.
Unknown Speaker
I like the sound of that. I like the sound of that. So what we need to do is we need to pay attention where Shador goes. Not only do we need to pay attention where Shador goes, at some point, we also need to pay attention where Shiloh goes.
Chad Ochocinco
Right?
Unknown Speaker
Wherever Shador goes, there's an opportunity. There's a chance at some point in the. In the near future that Dion could be the head coach of that team if that team suffers early on. All he's doing now is planting the seed. Now, you done put it out there now. So the opportunity is going. Going to present itself. Because you know how God works. One thing. One thing. You. One thing about it. When you. When you're. When you're a child of God, the opportunities you ask for. The tongue is powerful. Anything you say, anything you say, there's a chance it will happen. And I. I said it here first.
Chad Ochocinco
But the question is, look, we know Shador is going to have a high grade. What type of grade is Shiloh going to have? And look, Tennessee has a high draft pick. They have one of the first three, four picks. We know that, but what's the grade on Shiloh? Does he have a third round, fourth round, fifth round, sixth round, seventh round grade free agent? That's the question, right? It's different. Football is different than basketball. Basketball, you only got two rounds, and most of the guys that come out in the second round, I mean, every once in a while, you'll get a Ben Wallace. No, Ben Wallace was a free agent. You'll get a Nicola Jokic. Now, that's an extreme case.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Second round draft pick, three time mvp, finals mvp. Or you get a Draymond. But the second round is really not often, Ocho. Not often. Right now, the NFL, these picks are very, very, very, very valuable.
Unknown Speaker
Very.
Chad Ochocinco
So the question is what type of grade and how. How is he high? How high is he going to be selected? Now, coach Time said, plural. Both of his sons could Tennessee take Jador and then he's there, say, fifth, sixth round, take Shiloh. I don't know if he's gonna have a third or fourth round grade on him. I don't. Right. I don't.
Unknown Speaker
I'm not sure. I haven't. I haven't seen any of the. Any of the mob drafts. I haven't seen anything Mel Kuiper has put out or come up with so far. Still kind of. Still kind of early, but it's going to be interesting. I can't wait. I can't wait to April, because I want to see. I want to see those first five picks. I want to see where they go. I want to see what the Bengals get where they can improve at. Hell, I'm waiting to see who the defensive coordinator is going to be for the Bengals.
Chad Ochocinco
Well, y'all better be able to, boatloader, because y'all gonna lose. Trey Hendrickson.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, yeah, he's had.
Chad Ochocinco
He's posted back to back. Seventeen. Seventeen and a half seats, sacks. Yeah, back to back.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah. Somebody gonna pay him? Well, they're gonna pay.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah, boy, he was the long rights watch y'all got.
Unknown Speaker
Oh, you talking about on defense?
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, defense.
Unknown Speaker
Okay, okay. Yeah, you. You right. You right.
Chad Ochocinco
Y'all secondary had a problem holding up. Can you imagine the problems y'all gonna have with no pressure?
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, it could get ugly.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't think prime really wants to leave.
Unknown Speaker
I don't know.
Chad Ochocinco
He got a great situation.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah. Even with a great situation, you don't pass up that kind of money. You don't pass up opportunity like that. Those Opportunities.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, no, no, no. You know, he's not gonna pass up an opportunity to coach his son.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, I would.
Chad Ochocinco
But guess what? He ain't gonna just be coaching his son, right? Yeah, he gonna be coaching a lot of other hardhead. You know what?
Unknown Speaker
Right now, you know, Prime. Prime gonna get the respect now. You know that. You know that. They ain't gonna play like that. Matter of fact, he ain't gonna let you play like that.
Chad Ochocinco
And he can. It's different now, Ocho. The way you and I respect people. Yeah. And my thing is, why not just. Why not just have respect for everybody? Just do your job, show up on time, do what you're supposed to do, go home. That's not that hard. It's really not. I can see. Ocho, you know, you working, you got multiple jobs and you get off late and you gotta change and stuff like that, bro. You know you gotta be to work at 9:00 or you gotta be to work at 8:30. Okay. You know, meetings start at such and such a time. Practice starting such. I don't know. We started our Practice started at 2:00 because Mike wanted to keep us on a schedule. Just like we played on Sunday.
Unknown Speaker
Right?
Chad Ochocinco
We played at 2 o'clock. Let's practice at 2 o'clock. And when we had a night game, we'd go run through the stuff at the stadium. Get used to seeing, catching, seeing them all up in the lights.
Unknown Speaker
Lights. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. I mean, that's what we did. I mean, our schedule was according. I just. I just never understood that. But. But I'm trying to think. Tennessee. Tennessee had what? Well, Tennessee don't have no opening. They fired the general manager but kept the coach. So Tennessee's off the table.
Unknown Speaker
Makes no. Absolutely no sense.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I'm biased. Cause I know Rand. I congratulate him when he got the job. I'm trying to think who's the. Okay, the Raiders are available. Who else is available? Oh, the Jags are available. Yeah, but the Jags ain't taking a quarterback. They just gave Trevor Lawrence 55 million.
Unknown Speaker
No, no, they definitely ain't taking no quarterback.
Chad Ochocinco
So. The Raiders, who else? The Bears? Patriots. Well, first of all, neither. None of those teams are taking a quarterback. They took Caleb number one overall and they took Drake May number. So none of those teams gonna be in play. Cause they not taking a quarterback. Right, the Jets. The jets are way down though.
Unknown Speaker
Wait, how. How far down? Jets probably. What, seven.
Chad Ochocinco
They like in the 13, right? Or 10. Well, no, they might need nine or 10.
Unknown Speaker
What.
Chad Ochocinco
Just for seven. Just for seven.
Unknown Speaker
I knew I just, I knew I wasn't tripping. I said seven too.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. The Raiders. We know Raiders got a top five cleat, right. 46. 6.
Unknown Speaker
They get.
Chad Ochocinco
They Brady and Tom. Brady and Tom are familiar with each other. Both used to be under. Well, I think Tom is still is but time. Used to be an Under Armour guy right until he went back to Nike. Glad he did that. The Saints got an opening, got a vacancy.
Unknown Speaker
I like, I like, I like. Where you going with this prime in Vegas. Raiders go up.
Chad Ochocinco
The Cowboys might have an opening, but I don't see them getting off that. They just gave the man 60 million.
Unknown Speaker
Nah, nuh. I like, I like that. I like that. That Raiders. That, that Raiders look.
Chad Ochocinco
Or Colorado could give another 5 year deal for 9 million a year plus incentives.
Unknown Speaker
I like that.
Chad Ochocinco
That could happen.
Unknown Speaker
That could happen. But I still. If that, if that NFL opportunity, if that window opens for prime to go coach in the NFL. Matter of fact, even if it wasn't Shiloh, if it wasn't Shador, I still think he.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't think he. I think he wants to coach his son because you got to realize his sons have never played. Shador has never played for any other coach other than.
Unknown Speaker
Right. I understand it.
Chad Ochocinco
I understand at no level, I don't know if there's anybody that can ever say that. That the only head coach I've ever had is my dad.
Unknown Speaker
Right. That's dope. That's dope. But I just knowing prime the way I do. But they came a calling, they came a knocking, man. We would love to interview you for the opportunity to be our head coach. Ain't nobody turning that down. Absolutely.
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Ojo yeah, the Falcons are now seeming to be willing to keep Kirk Cousins as their backup quarterback in 2025 if they can't get anything in a trade for him. 180 million for a backup.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Now I told you firsthand, I like this. I like this. You the cousin and you know you get the. I said oh yeah at the absolute best case scenario, right? The absolute best. You get Kurt for two years. But Ocho, do you realize how debacle this will be if you get him for one?
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, well it's already that. It's already yes, because not only you getting him for one now, he's not going to be a starter now going.
Chad Ochocinco
Forward and that's 180 million for a backup.
Unknown Speaker
Hey listen, that lets you know how desperate teams are for a quarterback. He still might get traded because there are other teams that need a veteran presence where they might bring him in just to be a starter.
Chad Ochocinco
No, I ain't gonna. Why would I do that?
Unknown Speaker
First of all, you know why. The same reason they probably gonna bring Aaron Rodgers back.
Chad Ochocinco
Ocho. The difference is, is that Kirk cousins is guaranteed 38 million, right? I'm gonna do it like Russ. No, I'm not trading. I'm gonna go get him. Because if I trade for him, I gotta pick that 38 up, right? So, no, I'm gonna let y'all do what y'all gonna do. Y'all cut him and then.
Unknown Speaker
Right? Oh, then we assign him.
Chad Ochocinco
But hold on. He might have a no trade.
Unknown Speaker
Oh, yeah, he.
Chad Ochocinco
I think he has a no trade.
Unknown Speaker
I think he does have it in there, if I'm not mistaken.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes, he has a no trade. Yeah, so he. He has to have. He have to agree to it. Come here. Come on.
Unknown Speaker
It might get to that point.
Chad Ochocinco
Boy, you love you camera hogging up all the camera time. You looking for. You looking for a wife?
Unknown Speaker
What up, twin?
Chad Ochocinco
Say this. Is there anybody out there that has a two year old? He said, I'm two years old. I weigh 173 pounds and I'm looking for a girlfriend. I am intact so we can make beautiful babies. He said, whoa, whoa, dude, I ain't say nothing about no babies now. I ain't say nothing about no babies. Jordan, in the Future, meeting. But oo, Hunt, oo. That man got 38 million coming. He got 62 million this year, right? So he gonna make 40. He gonna make 90 million in the first two years.
Unknown Speaker
Gotta understand, Kurt been making money for a little minute too. Now. He been making a good. A pretty penny for a very long time.
Chad Ochocinco
So him, I'm gonna put him up, you know, Kirk.
Unknown Speaker
Hey, Chad. Kirk getting the money he's getting now? Listen, I. I hate saying he's been. He's been able to swindle, obviously, as. As a player, you earn every dollar, every cent you get. And I'm all for, you know, you getting your money, but Kirk Cousins bet on himself. Kirk Cousins better on himself for a very long time when he was in Washington. Oh, you want a franchise tag me? Okay, bet. Oh, you want to franchise tag me again? Okay, bet.
Chad Ochocinco
Then he.
Unknown Speaker
He goes somewhere else. Boom, he gets the bag. I mean, it is what it is. It is what it is. Chad. How y'all doing? Hey, Chat. My birthday is. Is in exactly 26 minutes. 26 minutes. I'll be 57. And not just any 57. Like I'm, I'm a good looking, like a good looking 57. Where like at times I still get carded at the cigar spot when I go get cigars. Like that's how young I look. Ah, man, chat. Who y'all got? We got Saturday, Chargers, Texans, who we going with? CJ Shroud to pull off what I consider upset. We got Justin Herbert. C.J. sprout's offensive line. Do they find a way to block Bosa? Do they find a way to block Khalil Mack? They've been, they've been really, really bad. They've been really bad this year, especially their offensive line.
Chad Ochocinco
That's his way of saying put me up.
Unknown Speaker
Oh, we can't bother you.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, he, he, he, he tired. He was, he been up. I had him up since 6:30 this morning. I take him out because when I get up, when I don't have to do the show, I can take him for a walk. So I take him for a walk. So he's been up for the better part. He's only been in his pen for about 30 minutes a day. When cleaning people come to clean, they're afraid of him. So yeah, Jordan. So I, I put him up. But yeah, he was, that was his website. I'm sleepy that I'm tired from bed. So I don't know what you got going on, but we need to fix this. Hold on. But that was my biggest concern when I was talking about when the Kirk Cousins thing came to be.
Unknown Speaker
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
You're gonna spend 180 million and you're gonna take a quarterback.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
You might as well, you just might as well go ahead and take the quarterback and just leave Cousins alone right now.
Unknown Speaker
You understand why they did though? They, you understand why they did. You take her Cousins, based on his resume, despite only winning one playoff game, you know what you get from him from a statistical standpoint in the regular season, you're worried about the playoffs later on. And then you get, you get security because he's coming off of the Achilles injury. And behold, OO happened.
Chad Ochocinco
That's what I'm saying. Oh, you, you paying a guy like, he's like he's 30 and he's not coming off a damn near career ending injury. He was already Ocho, he was already not mobile.
Unknown Speaker
Right. And then that makes it worse.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
But Cousins had. The Statue of Liberty has moved more than Kirk Cousins and that thing ain't moved in 200 years.
Unknown Speaker
That's a good one.
Chad Ochocinco
That's why it didn't make sense to me. It never made sense to me. And you try to rationalize like, okay, deterior Kurt, they have him for two years, bro. You paying 90 million for two years. But what happened? Lord forbid, you don't want to see this happen. But what if you only have it for one year? You spent $90 million for a quarterback for one year? 90. Nah, they did. It didn't make sense for me. But Ocho. Dwight Howard is filled up with Shaq. Constantly talking about him. Says he wanted to show up in TNT studio to confront him. At what point does this stop?
Unknown Speaker
Aiden boy gotta tussle, man. That'd be that. Listen, we talk about celebrity boxing, which is kind of, kind of simmered down a little bit, somewhat fell off. Now that'd be a good one. Dwight Howard versus Shaq. Four rounds. Four three minute rounds. Headgear, Headgear. No headgear. They just need to duke it out. They need to.
Chad Ochocinco
But I don't, I don't really get Shaq's angle. Dwight is not the player you were. We know that. Right? You're one of the most dominant. You're one of the top players that's ever played in the game. Your place in history is secure. I don't get why punching down. Solid. Solid, Yes. I don't get why punching down. But I don't get the constant, okay, the Superman, like I'm Superman. I get, I don't get that. But I just don't get. What I don't get is the constant. It seems like for me, it seems like sometimes Shaq goes out of his way to pick at or to pick on. You know, we call that picking at. You know, we growing up in the south and you know what I'm talking about. If it's right, it's like. But I don't get it. And Dwight, like everybody, everybody. Don't joke like you do, Shaq. Shaq is a big, fun loving guy. If you've ever been around him. You know, he likes to have fun. But everybody. But it seemed, but it doesn't seem like your jokes are in good nature. It seems like you're like you're trying to diminish the man. Dwight Howard is not. He didn't win a championship. But Dwight Howard is not a bum. Dwight Howard should have been all 75, a 75th anniversary player. He should have been. That's not to knock anybody. Congratulations to everybody. But Dwight Howard for a period of time was a top five player in the league. He was he took a team to a championship. He was the de facto best player on that Orlando Magic team that went to the finals, that lost to the Lakers in four. Dwight Howell is a damn good player. He's going to the hall of Fame. I just don't get it.
Unknown Speaker
I don't know, man. We. Listen, we will never know because they've been going at it for a break.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, that dude, he did win a championship. He wasn't the best player on the team. He won a championship with the Lakers in 2020.
Unknown Speaker
Right? They've been going at it for a while, huh?
Chad Ochocinco
They've been going, so what's the end? We don't know.
Unknown Speaker
We don't know. We don't know the issue. We don't know what the issue may be. Maybe they. Maybe he just doesn't like him. Maybe he just doesn't like him.
Chad Ochocinco
But okay, why.
Unknown Speaker
Oh, now that.
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, in order for you not to like somebody, Ocho, the guys hadn't done something to you?
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, probably. Probably has. Maybe something we don't know about. Maybe behind, behind closed doors, maybe something privately that we don't know. He just, he just has a, a distaste for him in general. And that says. Then that's his way of letting them know. By always jabbing at him, by always saying something, you know?
Chad Ochocinco
No, you got to punch down Shaq. Shaq. Shaq's the better player. Nobody's arguing that, right? He's a four time champion, three finals mvp. A league mvp. I mean, he's one of the historically great players. But I don't, you know, and clearly it bothers Dwight. Dwight. I mean, they're grown now, right? I mean, both, both players got kids and I just, I just don't get it. I don't, I really don't. Maybe somebody in the chat can understand it and can help me understand, but this has been going on for long enough. Maybe it's the Orlando, maybe it's the Superman thing, right? I don't know. Maybe. Who's the best big man to play in Orlando? I don't. I don't know. I don't. And I, I thought about, I was like, well, damn. Why, why, why Shaq, you know, picking on the man, you know, going back and forth. Because I don't, I don't think Dwight's ever said anything to Shaq or said anything to or about Shaq.
Unknown Speaker
You never know. That's, that's why I said you never know. Now, it might not have been said publicly, but you tell the wrong person and they get back to Shaq, and they let you know, hey, boy, you know, young. Young bull been talking about you, you know, and then, you know, he reacts. That's why I say, you never know. It's always something, man. It's always something.
Chad Ochocinco
But at this one time, ojo.
Unknown Speaker
Huh?
Chad Ochocinco
I said, at this point in time, Shaq, 50. You gotta let it go now, you.
Unknown Speaker
Know, you ain't never too old now for a little tussle.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Oh, come on. It's time out for this now. Y'all grown. Y'all, Shaq grown. At some point in time, you about to have grown, about to have grandkids, and you still punching down on somebody. I just.
Unknown Speaker
You right.
Chad Ochocinco
I. I don't get it. I don't get it. But like I said, bro, every Ocho. Everybody don't joke. Everybody don't want to hear you. Every time something come in your mouth, you talking about me in a negative manner, right? What's. What's the end? What do you get out of that? You better. You. You got more money. You are a better player. You got more championships. You got all these businesses. Shaq got so much going on. Ain't no. I mean, Shaq ain't got no. Shaq don't have to take a backseat when it comes to business. I mean, the way he's been able to parlay his. I mean. Cause think about it. Shaq's a big. I mean, you would. You're not gonna find anybody that big, that jovial, right? He likes to have fun. He's very philanthropic. He's very generous. He'll help. Hey, hey. Get that. Get what? Hey. He'll be in a store somewhere, and parents can't get something for the kids.
Unknown Speaker
Take care of.
Chad Ochocinco
You mind if I get them? Yes. He's always been like that.
Unknown Speaker
Big time for him.
Chad Ochocinco
And I think it has to be because when he was a kid, his parents weren't able to afford things that he could get. And so he never wants a kid to feel like he felt when he was growing up because he couldn't get certain things. So check it. I got. I mean, as far as generosity. But Shaq, as great as he is, he ain't got to keep doing this to Dwight. It's time to let it go. Now, this thing been going on for about 10, 15 years.
Unknown Speaker
That's why I say, listen, at this point, they got a tussle. Now.
Chad Ochocinco
They ain't got a tussle. It's too many. That's what they want us to do. We don't see. When is the last time you see two white men going at it like.
Unknown Speaker
This all the time? You'll see the videos.
Chad Ochocinco
Who?
Unknown Speaker
All the videos. I be seeing the videos. You be going at it. Oh, I don't know who personally.
Chad Ochocinco
Give me some names.
Unknown Speaker
I'm sporting them. I see. I see you.
Chad Ochocinco
You say they going at it, you know.
Unknown Speaker
No, you ask me. You ask me. I see. Go at it. I say. You said.
Chad Ochocinco
I say, oh, Joe, I'm talking about famous people. I ain't talking about somebody fighting on the Internet. No joke. Oh, I'm talking about famous people. Oh, two famous white people going at it.
Unknown Speaker
I'm trying to think.
Chad Ochocinco
When do you see that?
Unknown Speaker
I got to think about it.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, go ahead.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah. I can't think of nothing right now at the top of my head now. But, you know, they be.
Chad Ochocinco
So why we gotta do that? I ain't going back. Look, like I said, I get it, right? But Shaq don't need no cred. Shaq is a standalone. Shaq is Shaq. When you say Shaq, you know, if they say Shaq, you know they're talking about Shaquille O'Neal. Right? Nothing else needs to be said. Shaq can walk in any room, and everybody knows who he is. People do business with him because he's Shaq and he's a very good businessman. Cause you know what you get when you bring Shaq in the room. But we don't gotta go back and forth. They laugh at us. I ain't seen Justin Timberlake and Alan Thicke go at it and Robin Thicke go at it yet they sang the same kind of songs, but we go at each other. Yeah, Adele ain't going at Christina Aguilera. She ain't trying to get at. She ain't trying to get at Mariah Carey. We gotta stop. I don't know. Maybe it's just me. Maybe it's just me. Hey, let them have. Hey. That's what they want to do. But I. I don't. I don't. You know, I think we're at a point right now that everybody's making money.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
We ain't got. We ain't. We ain't. I ain't got. I ain't got. I ain't gotta try to demean somebody that's in this space. I don't feel I gotta demean no black person.
Unknown Speaker
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't gotta demean nobody, but I'm damn sure not gonna demean somebody that's in this. In and that's in my space. Why? There's enough for everybody. Ocho, did you know 80% of the money that's in circulation has been printed in the last five years? Right. Let that sink in. Chat. Listen to me. 80% of the money that's in circulation currently has been printed in the last five years. So in other words, if they're not enough, they'll print some more of it. Has it lost its value? Sure. But guess what? They'll print some more of it, and you can get it.
Unknown Speaker
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
So I don't feel I need to be negative or talk down or talk, Be demeaning or say anything negative about anybody in order to make money. That's just me.
Unknown Speaker
I don't know. They go, they. They gonna get it together at some point. Listen, after 10, 15 years, you know, maybe. Maybe, maybe Dwight could be the big man, and maybe Shaq can be the big man. Say, hey, man, let's. Let's get on the call. Let's squash this.
Chad Ochocinco
But I think Dwight tried to say. Didn't Dwight say he like to, like, he like to, you know, have a conversation? Look, I. I don't know if it. It doesn't. It doesn't really need to be on the podcast. These two men can have privately watch this. You know what I'm saying? Yo, hey, y'all go to a private. Say, hey, bro, what's the deal with that, man? What's going on? I mean, being Superman, you Superman, you big Superman. It ain't that serious.
Unknown Speaker
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
Because Marvel Comics own it all. So it's not like. It's not like we could, you know, really copyright the name. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Or benefit off of it.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. So that's what I'm getting. I just like, look, it's enough. I just hate. And I've made it. I've been like, man, I ain't going to go back and forth with people that look like me in my community and go back and forth. Why?
Unknown Speaker
Well, hey, since you feel like that, I'm glad you feel like that. So I ain't got to pay your money, man, since we ain't going.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, no, you gotta run me my money run me that.
Unknown Speaker
You just said we ain't got to go back and forth. You don't want to go back.
Chad Ochocinco
No, we ain't going to go back and forth. You gonna go to the bank and bring your ass forward with my money. That's the only back and forth I want to go with. I don't know. I don't know what you talking about. No, that got nothing to do with that lightning energy.
Unknown Speaker
Hold on now. Your energy change.
Chad Ochocinco
No, my energy is. You've been talking about your. First of all, you owe me more money, too. But I let that slide.
Unknown Speaker
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, Chad, what are we talking.
Chad Ochocinco
Chad, Chad. Do y'all remember y'all. Ocho said, obj, we're gonna have X amount of yards. I let that one slide. I ain't even bring that up. I let it slide. But if you don't bring me. If you don't run me my money pronto, it's gonna be trouble. Trouble. Now, come on with it.
Unknown Speaker
Do you have Apple Pay again? Let me try this again. Do you have Apple Pay? Do you.
Chad Ochocinco
I got Ocho Pay.
Unknown Speaker
Huh?
Chad Ochocinco
Apple don't owe me. Ocho owe me.
Unknown Speaker
Okay, but Ocho uses Apple Pay. So that is my.
Chad Ochocinco
No, I want Ocho to use Ocho Pay.
Unknown Speaker
I don't have Ocho Pay.
Chad Ochocinco
You ain't got Ocho Pay. You better have Ocho Pay.
Unknown Speaker
I have Apple Pay. I can pack a pay right now. So what's going to end up happening is you not going to accept my terms in which I'm trying to pay you.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, whoa, whoa, hold on. Wait a minute. How you going to own the bank and tell them to tell the bank they got to accept your terms on which you going to pay them back?
Unknown Speaker
I'm not in the bank. I'm the man with money.
Chad Ochocinco
I have to bank.
Unknown Speaker
Well, if you the bank and I'm trying to pay you my money. I'm giving what.
Chad Ochocinco
What is.
Unknown Speaker
See, you don't want it. You don't want it. You don't want it. I'm hold on to it for you. How about that?
Chad Ochocinco
No, you don't. Whoa, whoa. So now you telling me my money drawing interest in your pocket? What the fuck? What? Hey, Chad, where they do that at? Am I missing something? I missed. Clearly, I missed something.
Unknown Speaker
Hey, but listen, and you might want to get Apple Pay. It's 2025. The fact that you don't have these. These devices on your phone is beyond me. It ain't beyond me. It makes life easy. PayPal, Apple Pay cash app.
Chad Ochocinco
Didn't I just tell you? All my TVs, my Netflix account, my Amazon. Ash has an email. So my thing is Ash. And sometimes she be having too many accounts on. She got to turn off one of her TVs so I can watch TV.
Unknown Speaker
Okay?
Chad Ochocinco
I call. I said, hold on, Ash, you watching tv? How many TV you got on? It's My account, I said. But I can't watch tv.
Unknown Speaker
Okay, you want me to say. You want me to send Ash?
Chad Ochocinco
Wow. Did you bet Ash?
Unknown Speaker
No, I bet you, but you don't have Apple Pay.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, then pay me.
Unknown Speaker
All right, listen, I'm. Listen, We've been going 10 minutes now. I'm trying to pay you.
Chad Ochocinco
We ain't been going nothing. I ain't got no money. I don't see no money.
Unknown Speaker
And you said money. Listen, money out of sight, calls a fight, huh?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, absolutely, Will.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, I mean, listen, I. I don't.
Chad Ochocinco
And if I don't know, I'm not. No, no, I'm not going to change me. I don't got no cash apps. I ain't got all that stuff on my phone.
Unknown Speaker
Download it. Download it.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't know how to download it. My phone don't take. Except downloads. You got, but my pockets won't. You download 4,000 in my pocket. Download that.
Unknown Speaker
I'm trying to, but you don't want it.
Chad Ochocinco
No, you're not.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, in a minute. Hey, listen, listen. You go, you're gonna have to get it in blood.
Chad Ochocinco
Then.
Unknown Speaker
You had to get in the blood.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, it does. Don't mind if I do. Let me take my breath. I don't want to mess these Tiffany's up. I was hoping. You say that. Let me tell you. Hold on. Give me. Give me just a second. Take it to my face and blood. I was hoping. Oh, dang it. Right there. I was hoping. You say that. What took you so long? Man, that batch, I'm old. You gotta take it in blood.
Unknown Speaker
And. Hey, what you got? You got my stomach. Hurry.
Chad Ochocinco
We got these, too, Ocho.
Unknown Speaker
Oh, hey. Well, you got my stomach, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Please.
Unknown Speaker
That was funny.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, you say you're gonna pay me at the. At the show. New Orleans.
Unknown Speaker
Okay. All right. I'm gonna bring cash. I'm gonna bring you cash. Matter of fact, before we start the show, before we start the live show, I'm gonna put your money in front of everybody.
Chad Ochocinco
I sure appreciate that.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, shoot.
Unknown Speaker
Well, that was funny.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. I don't want to mess with them Tiffany's, but. Okay.
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Chad Ochocinco
All right, it's time for our last segment of the evening. Oh, it's time for Q and a. Rodrigo Burrito. Is that a real name? Well, whatever. Hey, y'all. Hope y'all been having a great start to the new year. Ocho pay 4k and pennies. First of all, you don't realize how heavy 4K and pennies is. That's what you don't realize. That's the thing. Cause I had to get a wheelbarrow when I paid Alfred Williams and Susan B. Anthony 4,000 pennies. That's a lot of. That's a lot of pennies. Oh, yeah. He don't want to do that. He don't want to do that. Aaron says we gotta. We got a foot of snow in just a day and over half here in Cincinnati. What's the worst. Worst weather emergency you witnessed?
Unknown Speaker
You know what? I've. I've been. I've been. Well, you know what? Hurricane Andrew in 1994. I don't. I don't know if that. I mean, obviously that counts as. I mean, the. The worst thing I've been in is Hurricane Andrew. It. It messed Miami up. It messed Miami.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Messed down south up.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Homestead. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Oh, my goodness. It was. It was bad. I mean, that was the first thing I've been into.
Chad Ochocinco
I've been.
Unknown Speaker
I've been in an earthquake a few times in la.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
But nothing, you know, to the magnitude of what Hurricane Andrew did to. Did to us down here.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Yeah. Obviously, if you're in the south, you got tornadoes and you get hurricanes or hurricane. A. Hurricane David. Were you sure Andrew was in. In 94? Andrew might have been in 92. Ocho was.
Unknown Speaker
I mean, I think so look it up.
Chad Ochocinco
I think it was 92. Cause we ended up going down there and playing. We played. I played a celebrity ultimate frisbee thing down there. It was 92.
Unknown Speaker
Okay.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. But Hurricane David. I was in that ice storm in Atlanta when it locked the whole city. We have no snow Trucks? No, nothing. Because we've never had anything like that before. And it gridlocked the city. That might have been 20. Was that 2014?
Unknown Speaker
Wait, hold on.
Chad Ochocinco
Ice. Ice storm. We had an ice storm in Atlanta. I think it was 2014. Huh?
Unknown Speaker
The city was preparing for an ice storm?
Chad Ochocinco
No. Hell no. Because we don't get no snow. Like we don't get no weather like that in Atlanta. We prepared. Now they got snow trucks that. Salt trucks and stuff like that. But boy, that thing locked the whole city down. Oh, I'm telling you, I went ocho because I was. Because that was the year the super bowl was in New York. And I was supposed to go and my flight was at 4:30 and it started. I was like, man, let me go ahead and go. So I left my house at 1pm to go catch a 4:30 flight. I missed the flight. By the time I got off the interstate and got back and turned around, I walked to my house at 6am6am that morning.6am that's how bad the traffic was. Golly, when I say it locked the city down. If you were in Atlanta that time, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Locked it. Hey, it was, it was, it was, it was. It was worse than Freaknik. But no, Pat Dub said, how you holding up in la and what are your thoughts on another round of Evans vs. Latimore? Oh yeah, man, that thing gonna be epic.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, it's just gonna be nice. Nah, I'm not.
Chad Ochocinco
Is he gonna be playing on y'all? Is he? I thought he was. Nick.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah. Latimore was hurt last week. I'm not sure, you know, if he's going to play this game. I'm hoping, I'm hoping he does because I think when I think about the Commander secondary, the only person that will be able to match up well against Evans is, Is Lattimore. Is Latimore. I think Lattimore should also ask. I'm not sure who the D coordinator is for the. But the Commander, he should also ask to follow Evans wherever he goes.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. With the lockdown city, back to what I'm saying. I had a generator, so my whole house was operational. I was the only one on my block. The house was operational because I had a generator. So like if the power goes out within five seconds, my generator run and it'll run, just continue to run.
Unknown Speaker
Okay.
Chad Ochocinco
And if something goes wrong, it'll signal, signal out and they'll come, you know, if it needs gas or whatever the case may be. But I was great, you know, Great, great, great, great. Ran out of food. Ran out of food.
Unknown Speaker
You had anybody over there with you or you were solo?
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, I didn't have anybody. Come on. I offered my neighbors right across the street from him, Mr. Charles and Miss Mary rest us. So Miss Mary passed a couple of years ago, but I always looked out for them, so I always, you know, made sure they was okay. I would go check on them if I hadn't seen them in a couple of days, right? I go knock on the door, you know, the dogs loved him. I have, you know, I let the dogs out and they see Mr. Charles in his yard. They run across the street and, you know, he'd pet him and everything like that, but. But no, no, no one came over. I think we were out of power. We were probably out of power about three or four days. I think a lot of people went and got hotels on Cho, so. But nah, I was, you know, I always check on them. I said if they need anything because they're an elderly couple. Didn't have the kids, weren't really wasn't around. I mean, they would come, but by the time it was going to be a couple of days, because I think they had one, like, they had, like, two daughters. I think one was in Jacksonville. I don't know where the other was, but, you know, but I looked out for him. Sheldon Post said, ocho, your knowledge of basketball over the year has improved tremendously. You admitted yourself your knowledge of basketball not up to par. But listening to you on point, first take ready for you.
Unknown Speaker
Hey, I'm like. I'm like George Adano, you know, I'm like George Adano. I'm like, wrapped in one, you know, with a little bit of Doris Burke, you know, that's me.
Chad Ochocinco
Ocho, you know what time it is?
Unknown Speaker
What?
Chad Ochocinco
It's 9:00pm West coast time.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
So that means it's your birthday, east coast time.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
You see? Usually vibrating, you know, we celebrate. You can't see me.
Unknown Speaker
Where you go.
Chad Ochocinco
So chat y'all wish. Happy birthday. Happy birthday to Ocho.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, yeah. This way. This is what 57 look like. You hear me? Huh? It's what 57 look like.
Chad Ochocinco
Too bad you ain't been able to shake the covers on your birthday.
Unknown Speaker
Oh, oh, oh. I could shake some cover now because I got.
Chad Ochocinco
I see. I see you back. I see you. I see that nightcap sign.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, I'm at my place now. Listen, I can.
Chad Ochocinco
No, you at your place. You at that place.
Unknown Speaker
No, no, I'm not. Remember? I remember I left I'm in this.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, this is a new spot. Oh, okay.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't play. I don't play. You know, I gotta stand on business. Yeah. Now, if you see that Christmas tree behind me, then you know where I'm at.
Chad Ochocinco
You was there the other day.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, I was there the other day. Yeah. They begged me to come over.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Oh, boys, the men don't bend the knee. You know what?
Unknown Speaker
Not me. Not me. Because I'm. I'm standing on business.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, said nightcap. You guys doing great work. When there's a dull moment, you guys are here keeping it real and motivating. I effing love you, Ocho.
Unknown Speaker
Hey, I love you too, sir.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, he don't run me. My money ain't gonna be much to love on those. He need to break bread. NFL matchup highlight says. What's up, Uncle Nocho? Just wanted to know y'all thoughts about Sean Taylor and how he compared to Ed Reed, Troy Palomalo, or if he was even better. I remember Ocho saying Sean gave him multiple concussions.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, look, I was.
Chad Ochocinco
I retired the year he got drafted. Sean Taylor got drafted, I retired. So I didn't play against him.
Unknown Speaker
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
He was a phenomenal player. The greatest safety that I ever played against, that I took off on film is Ed Reed. Now, that's not a knock on no other safety, and I'm sure there are some great ones. Troy. I played against Troy as a rookie. But Ed Reed is the greatest safety that I ever. That I ever saw with my own two eyes, that I ever took off on field.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, listen, obviously I had to deal with Ed for a decade straight, man, two times a year. Ed, probably the greatest safety of all time, Troy Palomalu, is right up under there. If I was a 1A and 1B, it would be Ed and Troy. Obviously, I've watched many safety before, before my time. Obviously, I didn't get a chance to play against him. But what Ed and what Ed was able to do out there on that field, man, sideline to sideline, and just. Just his. His understanding of the game, it was unbelievable. Sean Taylor was different. He was. He was. He was physically imposing.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, he was a big man. Six, three, two zero, could run. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, he just. Dude, it was. He was good. I think he was taken from us too early before because we were able to see him reach his full potential.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. You just want to know what you saw, what he was trending towards.
Unknown Speaker
Oh, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Let's just say he has a 12, 13 year career. Then we could fully evaluate what he was. We saw where he was headed. But I've never seen a safety take the ball away like Ed and turn it into points. Ed, it wasn't good enough for him to take the ball away. He wanted to turn it into points. Whether he punched it out and scooped it up himself, whether he picked it, whether he bonked a punt, whether he ran a punt back. I've never seen a guy turn off, turn defense into offense like Ed Reed could.
Unknown Speaker
And listen, if he can't score, he gonna pitch it back. They'll pitch the ball back a bunch of times just to make sure they'd make it to the end zone.
Chad Ochocinco
Young Willie Will said, what's up, Shannon? Ocho, can I get a birthday shout out? Yes, you can, Willie. Happy birthday. You and Ocho share a birthday, but if Ocho don't run me my money, get the last one. That's it.
Unknown Speaker
Listen, I hold them hands. I hold them hands.
Chad Ochocinco
Work now. As a matter of fact, I had them updated yesterday just in case. Just in case. Cupcake mama said, hey, guys, my birthday was yesterday. May I get a shout out? I spent it quiet. I spent it quiet and solo. I'm just grateful and thankful for another year. Happy early birthday, Ocho. Yes, ma'am. Cupcake mama. Happy belated birthday. You know, sometimes it's okay to spend a birthday nice, quiet, you know, all that hullabaloo. Hey, that's how I am. I like to spend a nice little quiet evening, you know, maybe shake the covers if I can, if I'm lucky. You know, I ain't been lucky the last couple of birthdays, but it's okay.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go light me a cigar, man, right now. Turn on some Frank Sinatra, you know, relax on the balcony, kicking my feet up and, you know, think about the good time, think about the younger years and. And thank God, you know, for seeing.
Chad Ochocinco
Think about what you can't do no more.
Unknown Speaker
What? Play football.
Chad Ochocinco
J213 said, hey, Uncle. No Joe. Hope all is well, I pray you, and had a great holiday season. My question is, which social media platform do you think is the most detrimental to society?
Unknown Speaker
Look, man, I mean, shoot, society was.
Chad Ochocinco
There's good and bad. There's good. I mean, there are some good things. There's some good aspects about social media, but there are some. Also some bad things. And people sometimes you. And that's always the case. People have always. Anything that was made for good. People have Some way found a way to turn it into bad. And that's just who we are as a society. That's just the way society is. All the misinformation, all the hatred and all the vitriol that gets spread through social media. Somebody says something. Because before Ocho, before social media, when you printed something, you know, like newspaper, you had to get a couple of sources, two or three sources.
Unknown Speaker
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
It had to be vetted.
Unknown Speaker
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
Or because you was worried about, you know, you worried about getting sued for defamation or liable now on social media, man, that thing spreading. Whatever.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
And if you're a public figure, it's harder to sue for defamation and libel. And they know that because you are a public figure. So they'll say things and they try to skirt and try to parse it with certain things. But we just. Man, we just. We've become angrier. We've become more hateful, more spiteful. Yes, we just. We just don't. We just don't care for one another. And it's. It's sad that this is what it's come to.
Unknown Speaker
Gotta. You gotta adapt with the times, baby. You got adapt for the times.
Chad Ochocinco
Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy said congrats on being nominated for entertainer of the year by the naacp. I'm proud of you. Happy birthday to my first cousin Ocho. Doc, thank you so much. It was an honor to be nominated for the NAACP Entertainer of the year image award. A lot of hard work winning that. Congratulations to the team at Club Shay Shay for the hard work that you've done. Appreciate all your hard work, CJ and your staff over there. So, man, congratulations and thank you guys because none of this is possible without you. Be it Nightcap, Club Shay Shay, me being on first take, whatever my ventures are, you guys have been very, very supportive. So I want to thank you for making all this possible. I remember at the end of 23, I said that 24 is going to be great. It's even better than I could have imagined. Yeah, better. Way better. Way, way, way, way better. And so thank you guys. Thanks, Doc, Again, thank you, naacp, for the nomination. Congratulations to all the nominees. Everybody is deserving, but I want to thank the fans because you guys made it possible. Liam. What's up, Uncle Nocho? My name is Deshawn and today's my birthday too. I'm shaking covers and smoking cigars all weekend long. How do you guys like to celebrate birthdays? Much love, B Boy. Go flop. Happy birthday, Deshawn. Birthday, man. I'm just. Look, quiet. I want to go Get a workout that morning. Obviously, you know, my family going to call, the kids are going to call, my brother, sister called, my mom always called me. She called me on the phone talking about Shannon. You know who this is? No, Mom, I have no idea who this is. So she gonna call me, wish me happy birthday, but, you know, go work out. Just go. Nice, Nice. Oh, try. I ain't no big celebratory guy.
Unknown Speaker
Oh, no. I think we're the same. We're the same. I don't. You have to beg me to even have a dinner. You better surprise me or trick me into. Into. Into thinking we doing something or we going. I'm not into that. I'm not doing no clubs, I'm not doing no parties, I'm not doing any large gatherings. Give me a cigar, give me some coffee, Cafe Gon Leche, give me a latte, give me some Starbucks, let me kick my feet up, listen to some music, smoke me a cigar, and I'm content. Obviously, now, on my birthdays, I go see my grandma, my mom at the graveyard, sit there, talk to them. Talked to them for a little bit.
Chad Ochocinco
Outside of that, they buried next to each other. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Right next to each other. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, that's it. I'm good.
Chad Ochocinco
Dominique, Thong. Shout out to Ash. Got that Laportier order figured out only a matter of times till we paired that with them Sparks, Thunder and Lightning. Yeah. The fact that was the Sparks, now the Spark. They got it right. That's the right name for them. Bar. Now five.
Unknown Speaker
Gotta get me some of them.
Chad Ochocinco
Today was my birthday. Happy birthday, Demvoke. Damn, everybody got a birthday. How many people? I mean, Capricorn season.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Sup, A.J. zamora? Sup, Uncle Nocho? Big fan. Day one, supporting love with CM Punk. And the other night, happy birthday, Ocho. Love from Texas.
Unknown Speaker
Salute.
Chad Ochocinco
That's it. To everyone celebrating a birthday today, Happy birthday. Hopefully. Hopefully you do something fun, you enjoy it, you spend it with family, friends and loved ones, and you realize, yes, you was born on this day 25 years ago, 35 years ago, 40 years ago. Whatever the case may be, just be thankful that God allowed you to see another one, because there are a lot of people that had appointment and they didn't get an opportunity to reschedule it. So happy birthday. Hopefully it was safe, enjoyable, pleasant. From the Nightcap family, thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y'all know me, I'm your favorite unc. Shannon Sharp. That guy, Liberty City, his own bingo, ring of fame honoree, the Pro Bowler, the All Pro. That's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Guys, you have helped us grow immensely. And for that, Ocho and I can't thank you enough. Thank you for your support. Thank you for your continued support. Because of you, you allow us to be who we are and you allow Nightcap to grow expeditionally day after day, month after month, year after year. So here at the Nightcap family, we want to thank you. Make sure you check out Shea by La Portier. We have it in stock. The holiday season, it's not done yet. We got Valentine's day. We got St. Patty's Day. We got a number. And there's so much to be thankful for. What better way to celebrate any occasion than with a bottle of Shea by La Portier? And if you can't find it in a city or state near you, just order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. And please drink responsibly. Go check out my media company on all of its platforms. That's Shay Shay Media and the clothing company 84. With 84 being spelled out, our newest release just happened last month. New shirts, sweats, beanies, koozies and mugs. Quantities are limited. Oh, here's the mug. Y'all see that? And the beanies. What? What y'all do with my koozies? Oh. Cause you over here taking with stuff. Quantities are limited, so make sure you grab yours while supplies last. Tickets for the super bowl show is the New Orleans is our first spring tour stop and it's in New Orleans the Thursday before the Super Bowl. Tickets are on sale now. The link is pinned at the top of the chat. February 6th in New Orleans at the Mahalia Jackson Theater. We got guests lined up. You don't want to miss this one. This is going to be epic. And it's super bowl weekend. Our hearts go out to everyone impacted by the fires in Los Angeles. Hopefully you're safe. I know a lot of people that have lost homes, cars, possessions, lost everything. But you still have life and that can't be replaced. So our hearts and thoughts and prayers go out to everyone impacted by the fires, the wildfires that's ravaging Los Angeles and surrounding areas. The Cavs in the Thunder 15 game win streak. And there was a battle between the league's two top teams. The Cavaliers moved to 32 and four. OK City Thunder fall to 30 and five. The Cavaliers win 129 to 122. They got a big outing from Jared Allen who had 25 points, 11 rebounds and six assists. Evan Mobley had 21 points, 10 rebounds and seven assists and they needed it because Donovan McNabb had a had a cold night shooting. He was three or 16 from the floor, two or seven from the field from the three point line and he only had 11 points. But Darius Garland chipped in with 18, Wade had 11 and Ty Jerome had 15. Max Bruce had 17 as they win 129, 122 snap the 15 game winning streak by the OKC Thunder. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. I'm Unc Heath Ocho. We will see you tomorrow. Thanks for joining us. The volume Kroger brand products have the great taste you'll celebrate. That's why over 40 million people choose Kroger brand products, making them a true crowd pleaser and with quality guaranteed. You'll love your choice or get your money back. Score Kroger brand products with savings you can cheer for and great taste you can't resist. Kroger Fresh for Everyone hey, it's Ryan.
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Club Shay Shay: Nightcap - Hour 2 Summary Release Date: January 9, 2025
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Produced by iHeartPodcasts, The Volume, and Shay Shay Media
Introduction In this episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe and former NFL player Chad Ochocinco dive deep into the latest happenings in the NFL. The conversation spans a variety of topics, including the Dallas Cowboys' future, the potential NFL career of Deion "Prime" Sanders, and the ongoing feud between Dwight Howard and Shaquille O'Neal.
Timestamp: [04:02] - [08:02]
Chad Ochocinco kicks off the discussion by addressing Michael Parsons' bold prediction that the Dallas Cowboys will win the Super Bowl next year. Ochocinco expresses skepticism about Parsons' track record, particularly referencing past forecasts that did not materialize. He cites Parsons' previous incorrect predictions about teams like the Baltimore Ravens, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and Seattle Seahawks.
Chad Ochocinco: "Michael Parsons said the Cowboys will win the Super Bowl next year. ... I take everything he said with a grain of salt because he said a couple of years ago they're going to have a Baltimore Ravens, a Tampa Bay Buccaneer or Seattle Seahawks defense."
Ochocinco questions the credibility of Parsons, comparing his predictions unfavorably to historical coaches like Joe Namath, whose successes were memorable but not always consistently followed by accurate forecasts.
Chad Ochocinco: "He just talk. He's just talking ridiculous."
The hosts delve into the Cowboys' current performance issues, particularly focusing on quarterback performance and defensive shortcomings. Ochocinco highlights the team's potential had they managed turnovers better, suggesting that with improved quarterback play, the Cowboys could be playoff contenders.
Chad Ochocinco: "If he just cut half those interceptions, because that's what Brady did. ... they would have been a playoff team."
Timestamp: [13:16] - [18:43]
The conversation transitions to Deion Sanders, affectionately known as "Prime." Ochocinco discusses Sanders' aspirations to coach in the NFL, particularly his interest in coaching his sons, Shiloh and Shador.
Chad Ochocinco: "Coach prime says he would consider an NFL coaching job if he could coach your door. ... I'm trying to think who's the..."
Ochocinco speculates on potential coaching opportunities for Sanders, mentioning teams like the Raiders, Bears, Patriots, and Jets. He emphasizes the challenges Sanders might face in securing a head coaching position, especially considering the competitive nature of NFL coaching roles.
Chad Ochocinco: "The Raiders, who else? The Bears? Patriots. ... none of those teams are taking a quarterback."
The hosts also touch upon the dynamics between coaching incentives and compensation, reflecting on the complexities of NFL contracts and the expectations from potential coaches like Sanders.
Chad Ochocinco: "But Ocho, on an incentive based contract with everybody else, is getting eight, nine, $10 million a year. And you think I'm about to take four to five plus and cent. Oh, hell no."
Timestamp: [34:38] - [46:04]
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the long-standing feud between NBA stars Dwight Howard and Shaquille O'Neal. Ochocinco and Shannon Sharpe analyze the origins and implications of their animosity, questioning the motivations behind their public confrontations.
Chad Ochocinco: "Dwight's beef with Shaq ... Dwight Howard is not a bum. Dwight Howard should have been all 75, a 75th anniversary player."
Ochocinco expresses confusion over the persistent negativity between the two athletes, highlighting Shaq's positive attributes such as his generosity and philanthropy, contrasting it with the seemingly unreciprocated negative remarks directed at Dwight.
Chad Ochocinco: "Shaq is a standalone. Shaq is Shaq. ... Shaq is a standalone. You like Shaq don't need no cred."
They discuss the potential for reconciliation, suggesting that both parties might have personal grievances or misunderstandings that have fueled their conflict over the years.
Chad Ochocinco: "But why we gotta do that? I ain't going back. ... Shaq can walk in any room, and everybody knows who he is."
The discussion also touches on the broader theme of athletes maintaining respect and professionalism, despite personal disagreements.
Timestamp: [08:02] - [17:00]
Ochocinco and Sharpe review the performance of various NFL teams, focusing on the Cowboys' defensive struggles and the implications for their playoff chances. They analyze specific games, player performances, and strategic decisions that have impacted the Cowboys' season.
Chad Ochocinco: "They couldn't stop the run. They couldn't stop a parked car with an Uzi."
The hosts also discuss potential free agency moves and coaching strategies that could influence the upcoming season. They examine the Cowboys' reliance on their defensive lineup and the need for a stable quarterback to elevate the team's performance.
Chad Ochocinco: "If you just cut half those turnovers, because that's what Brady did. I just. I like. Just be realistic, bro."
Timestamp: [55:45] - [72:25]
In the latter part of the episode, Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco engage with listeners through a Q&A segment. Topics range from personal anecdotes about weather emergencies to detailed discussions about NFL players like Sean Taylor, Ed Reed, and Troy Polamalu.
Chad Ochocinco: "The new year means new health goals. ... financial health is directly related to identity protection."
Listeners share their experiences and seek advice on various issues, allowing the hosts to provide insights based on their extensive sports backgrounds.
One notable interaction involves reflecting on the impact of Hurricane Andrew and its significance in personal lives, showcasing the hosts' ability to connect with listeners on a personal level.
Chad Ochocinco: "I missed the flight. By the time I got off the interstate and got back ... that thing locked the whole city down."
Additionally, the hosts discuss the influence of legendary players like Ed Reed and Sean Taylor, offering their perspectives on what made these players exceptional.
Chad Ochocinco: "Ed Reed is the greatest safety that I ever saw with my own two eyes, that I ever took off on field."
Timestamp: [72:38] - End
In their closing segment, Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco extend well-wishes to listeners celebrating birthdays and acknowledge the ongoing struggles faced by communities affected by wildfires in Los Angeles. They emphasize the importance of gratitude and resilience, encouraging listeners to appreciate another year of life amidst challenges.
Chad Ochocinco: "Hope you do something fun, you enjoy it, you spend it with family, friends and loved ones, and you realize, yes, you was born on this day ..."
The episode concludes with heartfelt thanks to the Nightcap community, highlighting the support from fans that enables the podcast to thrive.
Shannon Sharpe: "We're the same. We're the same. I don't ... I'm not into that. ... Just be thankful that God allowed you to see another one."
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Conclusion This episode of Club Shay Shay offers an engaging and in-depth exploration of current NFL dynamics, athlete relationships, and personal anecdotes from the hosts. Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco provide candid insights, blending professional analysis with personal reflections, making it a must-listen for football enthusiasts and fans alike.
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