Nightcap Hour 2: Patrick Beverley says James Harden is BETTER than DWADE + SGA doesn’t get FAZED + Giannis REFUSES Bucks REQUEST to SHUT DOWN + Dolphins TRADE Jalen Waddle to BRONCOS

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 2 (March 19, 2026)

Hosted by Shannon Sharpe with Ocho, Joe, and Uncle

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Episode Overview

This high-energy episode of Club Shay Shay delivers classic locker room banter and in-depth sports analysis, as Shannon Sharpe (“Uncle”) and his co-hosts Joe and Ocho dive into some of the hottest debates and headlines in the NBA and NFL. The guys dissect Patrick Beverley’s claim that James Harden is better than Dwyane Wade, analyze the evolution of the point guard position, react to SGA’s stoic mentality, debate Giannis’s refusal to be shut down, and break down the Dolphins’ blockbuster trade of Jalen Waddle to the Broncos. Along the way, they sprinkle in hilarious behind-the-scenes locker room stories about relationships and “dirty game” tactics off the field.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. James Harden vs. Dwyane Wade: Patrick Beverley’s Controversial Take

Segment starts: 02:38

• Pat Bev Claim: Patrick Beverley, who has played both with James Harden and against Dwyane Wade, says Harden is better than Wade—and “it’s not really close.” (02:38)
• Conversation Breakdowns:
  • Skill vs. Resume: Uncle: “Don’t you take out the accolades and the resume... and just talk about skill, not what they’ve won as a team accomplishment?” (03:32)
  • Joe & Ocho’s Take: They point out that who you pick depends on what you value—scoring and offensive package (Harden) vs. two-way play, leadership, and "big moment" performances (Wade).
    • Joe (04:05): “They’re debating about who’s the third best two guard in NBA history. One and two is already solidified—Jordan and Kobe... We’re talking about the third best shooting guard in NBA history, Ocho. That’s the funny thing.”
    • Ocho (05:35): “I’m taking D. Wade first. I think James Harden has a better offensive package, but Dwayne, all around... He was a lockdown defender, played really big in big games a lot... He’s accomplished so much.”
    • Joe (06:27): “Probably D. Wade is definitely more a complete player.”
  • Highlight Moments: Wade’s legendary Finals run, shot-blocking at the guard position, versatility. Harden’s Euro-step, step-back, and showmanship get their praise too.
    • Ocho (07:21): “That Euro step, that side step, that step back, that one legged... offensively his package is much better than D. Wade’s.”
  • Memorable Quote: Joe (04:58): “Even if you break the records, the records don’t matter when it comes to Jordan and Kobe because of how they did it. Everybody remembers the big shots, the killer instinct, and they got the two most popular shoes. How are you beating that?”

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2. SGA’s Mental Toughness and the New Breed of Point Guards

Segment starts: 07:37

• SGA (Shai Gilgeous-Alexander) on Mindset:
  • Joe (07:37): “Shai said, ‘I love adversity. I love when things don’t go my way. Those are the moments and the games where I learned the most... I relish those moments. I appreciate those moments.’”
• Modern Point Guards:
  • The crew talks about the evolution from traditional “small” point guards to today’s super-sized, scoring-first guards.
    • Ocho (11:13): “Like the quarterback, everything revolves around the point guard, bro. You gotta be able to get to that chicken at the point guard position.”
    • Joe (11:37): “Ain’t no more six foot point guards. The Chris Paul days and the John Stockton days... Look at Shay. Look how big Shay is.”
  • They note the difference between point guards who facilitate and those—like Luka Doncic—who can both score 50 and rack up 15 assists.
• Memorable Quote:
  • Joe (09:25): “A lot of these guys are two guards masquerading as points. Shay is a two, but he masquerades as a point.”
  • Ocho (14:38): “That’s why you gotta be in the best shape possible, especially if you’re the best player—because you’re gonna have to work the hardest.”

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3. Giannis Antetokounmpo Refuses to Be Shut Down by Bucks

Segment starts: 18:57

• The Situation: Bucks want to preserve Giannis, but he refuses to sit; team is out of playoff contention.
• Host Reactions:
  • Ocho (19:37): “Man, I think they gearing up to get ready to get rid of Giannis... because the injuries are starting to pile up.”
  • Joe: “That’s why they want to shut him down—we ain’t going nowhere. We trying to keep the value high.”
  • They explain management’s thinking: protecting the “asset” for future trade.
• Legacy & Skills Evolution:
  • Joe (21:22): “If LeBron didn’t develop his shot, he couldn’t play this long... you have to evolve.”
  • The panel discusses how players like LeBron, Blake Griffin, and Kevin Durant have changed their games for longevity.
    • Ocho (22:39): “When the athleticism gone... you gotta expand your game as the years go if you want to continue [to play].”
• Memorable Quote:
  • Joe (21:12): “His whole thing is athleticism... If I take some of that away, what are we really getting?”

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4. NFL Blockbuster: Dolphins Trade Jalen Waddle to Broncos

Segment starts: 23:27

• Trade Details:
  • Dolphins send Jalen Waddle and a 2026 4th round pick to the Broncos for a 2026 first, third, and fourth round picks.
• Debate: Miami’s Strategy & WR Value:
  • The hosts question Miami’s rebuilding plan, noting a lack of “that dog” at wide receiver for their young quarterback.
    • Uncle (24:46): “You still need that dog, Joe. As a quarterback... you need a difference maker, Joe.”
  • On trading proven talent for picks:
    • Joe (25:24): “I kind of like a proven commodity now. Everybody ain’t gonna be Jamar Chase... or Randy Moss.”
  • Comparing Waddle’s value to other top receivers (like A.J. Brown):
    • Joe (26:01): “If Jaylen Waddle go for a first and third, what is A.J. Brown worth?”
• Debating “True WR1s”:
  • Joe (28:09): “I don’t look at Waddle as a 1. I don’t look at Courtland Sutton as a 1.”
  • Uncle and Ocho press for what makes a “true number one” receiver.
    • Joe (29:07): “When I look at a number one ocho, I look at a guy that they go in the game, they gotta stop him.”
    • Ocho (29:35): “If he’s the only viable option offensively, defensive adjustments are made.”
• Denver’s Prospects:
  • Joe isn’t sure Waddle or Sutton can be a dominant #1, but agrees Denver’s offense improves.

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5. Locker Room Culture & Relationship “Dirty Game” Stories

Segment starts: 39:17

• Hilarious and Raw Tales:
  • The crew swaps cautionary tales about teammates and friends sliding into girlfriends’ DMs, stealing numbers from phones, and betraying locker room codes.
    • Ocho (41:13): “Somebody done went in my phone during practice and they got the number out and hit her... now she think I’m the one.”
    • Uncle (42:15): “I’ve been number two so long... so cautious, because I understand how the game go.”
    • Joe (44:22): “He winking and smiling. She lean over—‘it ain’t my imagination, he’s doing it for real.’”
  • Overarching theme: the “game” off the field is just as cutthroat as on it.
    • Uncle: “Big fish take little fish. It’s always been that way... it’s about opportunity.”
    • Joe (47:09): “It’s too many out there to try to butt heads with you over one.”

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Memorable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Harden vs. Wade:
  • “They’re debating about who’s the third best two guard in NBA history... One and two is already solidified—Jordan and Kobe.” – Joe (04:05)
  • “Probably D. Wade is definitely more a complete player.” – Joe (06:24)
  • “That Euro step, that side step, that step back, that one legged... offensively his package is much better than D. Wade’s.” – Ocho (07:21)
• On SGA’s Mindset:
  • “I love adversity... as bad as it may seem, I relish those moments.” – SGA quote via Joe (07:37)
• On Point Guard Evolution:
  • “A lot of these guys are two guards masquerading as points.” – Joe (09:25)
  • “You gotta be dynamic. If you small and you gonna play, you gotta be dynamic now.” – Joe (13:43)
• On Giannis & Athlete Longevity:
  • “If I take some of that [athleticism] away, what are we really getting?” – Joe (21:12)
  • “When the athleticism gone... you gotta expand your game.” – Ocho (22:39)
• On NFL Trades:
  • “You still need that dog, Joe. As a quarterback... you need a difference maker.” – Uncle (24:46)
  • “When I look at a number one, I look at a guy that they gotta stop him.” – Joe (29:07)
• On Locker Room Codes:
  • “Somebody done went in my phone during practice and they got the number out and hit her.” – Ocho (41:13)
  • “It’s too many out there to try to butt heads with you over one.” – Joe (47:09)
  • “Big fish take little fish. It’s always been that way... it’s about opportunity.” – Uncle (43:26)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Harden vs. Wade debate: 02:38–07:35
• SGA mindset & Point guard evolution: 07:37–14:38
• Giannis discussion & Skill evolution: 18:57–23:10
• Jalen Waddle Trade analysis: 23:27–31:40
• Locker room stories & relationship code: 39:17–50:13

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Tone & Flow

The episode maintains its signature barbershop energy—unfiltered, playful, but deeply knowledgeable. It's packed with both debate and camaraderie; the crew shares real talk with humor and authenticity, using language and references that feel like you're sitting with former pros breaking down the game and life.

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This summary captures the episode’s major debates, insights, and memorable moments. Whether you’re a sports diehard or just looking for unfiltered storytelling, Club Shay Shay’s Nightcap Hour 2 has you covered.

Transcript

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[Joe]

Pat Bell says James Harden is a better player than Dwyane Wade.

[Uncle]

And.

[Joe]

And it's not really close. You're talking about a player that can score it, a player that can get to the free throw line, a player that can pass out of the, out of the pick and roll. A lot of people are going under D. Wade on pick and roll and I ain't going front. You feel me? A lot of people are letting D. Ray have that. Joe, you played against both of them. You know what D. Wade is? He's the first ballot hall of Famer. He won gold medals. He was a Finals mvp. He was an all NBA selection, all a multiple time all star. Pat Bell, he played with James Harden and he's played against D. Wade. He says James Harden is not only a better player, but a match.

[Uncle]

Hey, Joe, before you go, before you go, Joe.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

When you have a conversation like this, right. And we. Somebody like Beverly say something like this, who is a defender, Right. I'm sure Pat has been able or had the chance to play against both of them.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

When you measure it by metrics and in comparison, don't you take out the accolades and the resume in general and just talk about skill, not what they've won as a team accomplishment. I'm just, I'm just curious.

[Ocho]

It just depends on. It just depends.

[Joe]

It depends. It's hard. It's hard, Ocho, because what we're doing is that when we say one is other than the better, we got a nitpick. So we gotta, we gotta take things down, okay? One guy's been to this minute been a this many time all star. This guy's been that many time all star.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

This guy's been this many times all NBA selection. This guy's been that many times all NBA selection. This guy was a Finals mvp. This guy was a regular season mvp. This guy led the league in scoring this many times. This guy was an all defensive player. So. Cause you, cause you nitpicking now. Here's the thing. Here's the interesting thing. They're debating about who's the third best two guard in NBA history. Cause one and two is already solidified. Jordan and Kobe. So the one, two spot is already solidified. We're talking about the third best shooting guard in NBA history. Ocho. That's the funny thing. It's not like we talk about, well, who's the best? Who's this, who's that? Those two positions are already locked. And I'm not so sure that somebody's coming along in the very near future that's gonna unseat them. Yeah, I don't think anybody's gonna unseat Kobe. Let's just go ahead and be honest. I don't think anybody gonna unseat Jordan and Kobe and the two guard show. You think somebody's coming along, Joe? I don't.

[Ocho]

I don't know. You know, we got so many guys who surprise you. You never know. You never know. It's gotta be somebody who's gonna come along and break some of these records. I mean, this is, this rest is a.

[Joe]

Even if you break the records. Because the records don't matter when it comes to Jordan and Kobe because of who they. How they did it. Everybody remember the big shots. Everybody remember the killer instinct. And they got the two most popular shoes. How you beating that? Oh, JoJo, I. I think you.

[Ocho]

It's some kids who, who, who got a chance. Now it ain't gonna be easy. Now it ain't gonna be easy. It's gonna be a hard feat. But to kind of go back to what we were talking about.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Ocho]

I'm taking D. Wade first. I think James Harden has a better offensive package, but Dwayne all around. I don't know if y' all know this, but he's probably top five and NBA, two guards as far as shot blocking.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ocho]

He played both hands on the floor. He was a.

[Joe]

He.

[Ocho]

He was a lockdown defender when he needed to be playing alongside LeBron. He led the NBA in scoring one year. I think that's the year.

[Joe]

Yep.

[Ocho]

When I was playing for the Hawks and we played him in the playoffs. But I think D. Wade, man, he's accomplished so much, bro. Like, I think it's your preference on what you like. I think D. Wade is more of a two way, two guard. One of the best who could post up, make plays. Obviously a champion. And I guess it's just your preference, bro.

[Joe]

It is.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Probably D. Wade is pro. Definitely more a complete player.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Because before the Knees got bulky. Dwayne would take the challenge defensively. Played really big. D Way played really big in big games a lot. They down O2 to the Mavericks.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And he goes crazy. And he wins the finals MVP. He's averaging. I think he averaged 36.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

For that series.

[Ocho]

Yeah. But y' all know. Y' all know the game is about show. Showman's highlights, showmanship. People like points and James Harden.

[Joe]

They like scoring. No Chojo.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, they like scoring, bro. And the dribble moves making people fall. And James got crazy highlights in that. In that. In that aspect. So that's a lot what people gravitate towards. And you still see him out here playing and balling, so you could still be a prisoner of the moment. But I mean they top five and two guards all time, bro.

[Joe]

And that side step, that step back. Oh, yeah, he hardened credit for that.

[Ocho]

That Euro step, that side step, that step back, that one legged. I mean offensively his package is. Is much better than D. Wade's if that's what people talking about. But you know, that's what people gravitate to. A more to score.

[Uncle]

Damn, that's crazy.

[Joe]

Shake, yo, just. Alexander spoke about never letting his mental effect his play. Shay said, I think I just love competition. I love adversity. I love when things don't go my way. It just gives me an opportunity to grow and get better. It's easy to be super engaged when you're making every shot and you're up 20. But when you're in the thick of things and the things aren't going your way, you really find out about yourself. Those are the moments and the games where I learned the most. So as a bad. As bad as it may seem, I relish those moments. I. I appreciate those moments. I use them for good, man.

[Ocho]

Listen, it's hard to find anything bad to say about the kids.

[Joe]

Nope.

[Ocho]

You know. Yeah, it's hard to find nothing.

[Joe]

Nothing.

[Ocho]

I mean, he. He seemed like he living right. He take care of his body and at the end of the day, every time he touched the floor, Uncle Oo he competing at the highest level. I don't care who they playing against. He trying to put on the show. He trying to score 30. Hey, he say he was inspired by AI when it came to his shoes. He got one of probably top three shoes in the NBA and he comes out. He plays with that aggression. He plays with that poise and patience and being under control and the confidence every night, man. It just seems like he know the dude standing in Front of him, bro. You going. You gonna have a long night tonight, partner.

[Joe]

Yeah, I agree with you.

[Ocho]

That's how he played.

[Uncle]

You just added Joe. Yeah, well, you just said nobody would be able to unseat Mike. Mike and Mike and Kobe.

[Joe]

I don't think so. Michael ain't played. Michael retired. And, and, and Michael ain't played in damn near 30 years. In 20 years.

[Uncle]

But Shay is. Is. I'm not. It's very early in his career. Does he have any chance Joe and Unc not unseat them but still be in the same conversation as them?

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, he could be in that. He could be a one of them. But see, here's the thing, Joe. A lot of these guys are point. They're two guards masquerading as points. Yeah, Shea is a two, but he masquerades as a point. Yeah, but he's a two guard. Yeah, these guys are two. The, the, the Magic Johnson, the Steve Nashes, the Jason kids though. John Stockton, the Isaac. They a true, true point guard. These guys could absolutely bucket getters. Yeah, those guys wouldn't get no 50 points. You the. Every point guard you talking about from Tyrese Maxi to Murray to who we just Shay, all these guys can go get 50. Yeah, John Stockton wasn't getting no 50. Jason Kid wasn't getting no 50. These guys can go. These guys are bucket getters. They just happen to. But see, this is why they don't have 8N10 cents tonight. Because their scores is really not facilitators. They're looking more to get their shot than to get other people involved. Yeah, Luke is a point, but he's one of the few points that can go get 50 and have 15 assists. There ain't very. There haven't been very many guys like that in NBA history that can score the bucket, score the basketball like Luca and you look up and like this man had 50 points and 15 assists.

[Uncle]

Hey, Uncle Joe, don't that mean if we had the traditional point guards in today's game, being that the game has evolved and they're more of a facilitator than a scorer, then you probably don't. You won't get. Get paid as much. Huh?

[Ocho]

You saying the smaller guys won't get

[Uncle]

paid as much in general, if you are traditional point guard like the Stocktons and the Magic.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle]

Money.

[Ocho]

If you can't shoot the three, if you can't score that ball and playmate, you got to be able to do all that now at the point guard spot.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Ocho]

Like the quarterback, everything Revolves around the point guard, bro. Like, you got to be able to get to that chicken at the point guard position. You think you just going to come down, run the offense, go to the corner, you and camp out over there. Now we gonna run this pick and roll. We need you to get a bucket. We need you to get us a great shot. Now, whether it's you shooting the floater or pulling up for three, or getting in there spraying out the guys for three, or throwing lives, you gotta be able to do all that now to be elite.

[Joe]

Yes. And these guys, I mean, and these guys are big. Ain't no more. Ain't no more six foot point guards. No, no, no, no, no. The Chris Paul days and the John Stockton days. The small point guard. Look at Shay. Look how big Shay is.

[Uncle]

What's buddy named? Joe. You know, from Dan's Acre. How tall he is?

[Ocho]

About six, two, six, three. You seen? Hey, hey. You seen his body, though? You see how rocked up that boy is?

[Joe]

He gonna be more like an AI, though.

[Uncle]

He's an exception.

[Joe]

AI, the point guard, man, the only thing he did was bring the ball up. Hey, I was looking to get his shot off.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, I was looking to get buckets. But, but, but, but, but.

[Ocho]

Acuff, Acuff a little different, though. Like, he gonna get buckets. Okay, Ocho. But he has an awareness as far as, like, how to keep guys around him involved, you know what I mean? Having to get guys easy buckets. Like I was telling y', all, you get your big. Some easy. Some easy buckets, bro. You know, they gonna play a little harder for you, you know what I mean?

[Joe]

And like Luke of the night, Luka had 40 and 10.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Luca, look at 40 points and 10 assist.

[Ocho]

Luka well rounded, bro. He gets.

[Joe]

Yes, he. But he's not a traditional point guard. No, Luca. Luca is, like I said, Luca really like a he because he's so big and he can see. He got such great vision. Luca, big Luke. People don't really. Lucas. Six, seven, six, eight.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

So ever since Magic Johnson ushered in the big point guard, because prior to him, the point guard was small. Other than Oscar, Oscar was like six, four and a half, six, five. Yeah, but then if you were six, nine, you were a center or a power forward.

[Ocho]

Right?

[Joe]

Before Magic Johnson, that's what you were.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Mr. Russell was six nine. He was a center. All the six, nine guys were either sinners or fours. And then here come Magic. He got the ball in his hand, right? Penny Hardaway got the ball in his hand.

[Ocho]

Right?

[Joe]

So it's a. It's a different. It's a different. It's a different era now. The. The. The traditional point guard. Now you get a guy like Trae Young, a guy that's about six foot tall, you. He could score the basketball. Petraeus led the league in assist.

[Ocho]

Yeah, like he.

[Joe]

Yeah, you gotta be dynamic like that. It's just not good enough. Oh, he could just. He could just play make. Nah, I mean, just facilitate. Nah, they can find those guys anywhere. You gotta be dynamic. You small and you gonna play. You gotta be dynamic now. Hey.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. You gotta have some dog in you, man.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Ocho]

Gotta have some dog. Cause look, when you look like that, they gonna post you up every play. Ocho. They gonna put you in pick and rolls.

[Joe]

Pick and roll.

[Ocho]

You gonna be guarding LeBron in the post.

[Joe]

And you ain't gotta expose you, huh?

[Uncle]

You better. You better call for help.

[Joe]

What do they do? What do they do to Luca? They put Luke in the pick and roll. Okay, you want to give us buckets on the other end, we're gonna come right back at you. What they do to Austin Reeves, what they do to Luca. I mean, Trey, if you. If you gonna be held on the offensive end, let's see what you can do on the defensive end.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, come here. No, no, no, no, no. You go back up here. Come here.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey. That's why I tell these kids, bro, you want to be in the best shape possible, especially if you the best player, because you gonna have to work the hardest. They gonna be doubling, triple teaming you, and you gonna be out there looking like, man, how can I? I can't score.

[Joe]

I can't.

[Ocho]

That's why you gonna have to work a lot harder than everybody else, bro.

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[Joe]

Why? What's wrong?

[Julian Edelman]

Nothing's wrong. You look like a guy running on three hours of sleep and vibes.

[Joe]

Okay, yeah, I'm tired, kind of cranky and very thirsty.

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[Ocho]

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[Joe]

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[Joe]

Giannis has refused the Bucks request to shut him down for the season. The Bucks did not provide a timeline for Giannis return, but he'll missed at least a week because of a hyperextension and a bone bruise to his knee. Milwaukee, 28 and 40, is 11th place in the Eastern Conference, trailing the Bob the Bobcats, the Hornets by six and a half game for 10th place and the final spot in the Play in tournament. Giannis has missed 32 games this season, the most of his career, and he's seen, and he's seen extended absences because of strains to his right calf. The Bucks are 11 and 21 without Giannis in the lineup this season and 17 and 19 when he plays.

[Ocho]

Man, I think they gearing up to get ready to get rid of Giannis, of course, because the injuries are starting to pile up. Okay. Ojo.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Ocho]

You know you noticed that too. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

He dealt with some last year and this year missing 32 games. It's like. Yeah.

[Joe]

And that's why they want to shut him down. We ain't going nowhere. Oh, we tried. We trying to keep the value high.

[Ocho]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe]

Oh, that's a. That's a car. Oh. So I know I want to get rid of it. I'm gonna park it.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I'm gonna have it cleaned up and I'm gonna sit in the garage. Y' all come look at it if you want it.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Because before I drive it, the more chance of somebody run into me or I'm not paying attention to somebody running and I run into somebody.

[Ocho]

There you go.

[Joe]

I decrease the value of it.

[Uncle]

Does he view it like that? Maybe he doesn't.

[Joe]

No.

[Ocho]

They have of Course he don't. Of course he don't.

[Uncle]

Maybe he want to play to make sure that value stays high.

[Ocho]

Nah. Well, I mean, if you continue to get hurt, Ocho, I mean, you gonna diminish your value versus.

[Joe]

You see the value. You see Max Crosby. You see that? You see. You see. You see the value, Ocho? You see what happened?

[Ocho]

Hold on.

[Uncle]

Is it the same? It's not the same when it comes to basketball, though.

[Joe]

Huh?

[Uncle]

We talk about. We talk about Giannis now.

[Joe]

Yeah. But I'm saying the injuries are starting to come with great irregularity, and they're starting to keep him out longer periods of time.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And here's the thing. His whole thing is athleticism. He doesn't shoot the three well. He don't shoot coming downhill. Basically, everything is all about you, all about speed and athleticism. Now, if I take some of that away, what are we really getting?

[Ocho]

No, Joe, because the game slows down for you now. Now you got to go into another whole nother package. You got to have that 15 footer, that three ball. You know what I mean?

[Joe]

If LeBron didn't develop his shot, Joe, he couldn't play this long. Because if you look at LeBron, you look at the game, when LeBron come, everybody would play with two bigs.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Everybody had a. Everybody had a five or four or three or two or one.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And he's watched the evolution. He said, in order for me to stay around, I'm gonna have to get proficient at shooting the three ball.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And guess what happened now he's top five and three maids.

[Ocho]

Yeah. He's improved.

[Joe]

He had to develop that. He go to Kareem. I mean, Hakeem now. He developed a turnaround. Yeah. He's not as athletic as he once was. Can he get to the rim? Yes. But he can't get there with the regularity because it takes too much out of. He is 41.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

But he can shoot the three ball now. His three has let him down a little bit this year. I think he's about 30, 31, 32%. Where last year, I think he was like 36, 37. There've been a couple of times he shot 40%. Yeah, but you have to. As you start to get older, you got to evolve. And if you just rely on athleticism, where that athleticism goes, it won't be long.

[Ocho]

You better. Hey, you better have some mean muscle memory in that shoulders and shoot that. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. Hey, look. Cause when the athleticism gone. Cause Even you think about it. I think, I think somebody who transitioned pretty good Uncle Ocho was Blake Griffin because he was just a dunker but then he turned into a three point shooter.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Ocho]

A mid range shooter. You know, when he got to Detroit and he was playing and you know his knee was giving him problems. So he's a prime example of that. Bro. You gotta expand your game as the years go if you want to continue

[Joe]

to play another guy. Aaron Gordon.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Aaron Gordon when he was in Orlando.

[Ocho]

Duncan. Yeah.

[Joe]

Put backs now he, he's got that three ball now. He's got the midi.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

See this is why Kevin Durant can play a long time because he can shoot it. His game isn't relying on athleticism.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Joe]

Even if he's, even if he slows a step or two, he still can get that jump off. Still got to try to block it. Something that shoot and he's shooting at a, a damn near 9 foot apex. Good luck with that.

[Ocho]

Yeah, you got to bring the double.

[Joe]

Miami traded Jalen Waller to the Broncos for 22. Jalen Wall and a 2026 fourth round pick to the Broncos for the first round pick this year as well as a third and fourth round picks going to Miami. Ocho, clearly, yeah, clearly the Dolphins are in rebuild mode, piling picks. But don't you got, don't you got to have something for your quarterback?

[Uncle]

I don't, I don't know what they doing. I don't know what they did.

[Ocho]

They get draft picks though, Uncle Ocho.

[Joe]

They got a first rounder and they got, they got a. But the fourth round was cancel out. But they basically got a first and first.

[Uncle]

We got a first and a third Joe. But we talk about somebody coming in and making a immediate impact, especially at the receiver position. You look at what Malik Willis had when he was at Green Bay. He had some dogs around him. He had some, some really, really good receivers. They might have been young, but he had some really good receivers around him. Now when we come to Miami, I'm not, this is no disrespect to them. Got brother Tutu Atwell. You know, we, we have some guys, we have some good guys. But you still need that dog Joe. You, that, you still need that dog Joe as a quarterback. When you come out there and come hella high water, you know this individual here, I can count on I. For him to get open every single time. They, they, they don't. I don't, I don't think they have that right now, Joe. They have some good players but you need a difference maker, Joe. You need one now. You got a quarterback. You saw the situation he came from. You saw what he had around him.

[Joe]

You.

[Uncle]

You know why he had success in the short amount of time that he did play when Jordan Love went out. I hope to do the Dolphins, they do that.

[Ocho]

They do.

[Uncle]

They do the young, young bull some justice. Are we going to be right back in the same goddamn situation again, struggling?

[Ocho]

Well, Ocho, you. You don't think. You don't think. You, you don't think they can go in the draft and get a dog?

[Uncle]

Hey, Unc, who do we have?

[Ocho]

I'm asking. I'm saying think about this. Think about this. If they, if they rebuild and they reload, we getting rid of Waddle. So we getting rid of. So, yeah, maybe we want to start young and grow with. With some of these, Some of these young talent.

[Joe]

I like. You know what the thing is, I kind of like a proven commodity now. Everybody look, everybody ain't gonna be Jamar Chase coming out.

[Uncle]

Right.

[Joe]

Or Justin Jefferson have those title rookie seasons.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Or Randy Moss have the outstanding rookie season. But my question is, hell, the happiest people in the room, the Eagles, because they said if Jaylen Water went for a. Excuse me, a first and a third. Y' all got me a cursing over here, O Joe. If Jayla Water go for a first and third, what the hell is A.J. brown Worth?

[Uncle]

About. About the same or better? About the same or better.

[Joe]

I. I don't think anybody gonna say Jaylen Waddle is a comparable receiver to A.J. brown. The problem that A.J. brown, that everybody knows, is that they know Philly want to move him and they know AJ Brown want to be moved.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So that's kind of the thing. Like, we know y' all want to move him. We just not gonna flinch and give. Y'.

[Ocho]

All.

[Joe]

We're not giving you two first rounders. That ain't happening.

[Uncle]

Right. I think first and the third. First and the third is good. First and the third is good. I think he's still going to get moved. I think it'll probably be after June, I think right now. Yeah, I think it's going to happen in June, but they know he doesn't want to be there.

[Ocho]

Hold on, though. But if it happens in June, I mean, you, you, you can't draft now.

[Joe]

You get the draft compensation next year. Because, you know, they're working on the plan, Ocho, to try to extend draft picks out to five years. Basketball is seven years, football is three years. So they're trying to Work out a proposal and propose it like you can trade draft picks up to five years in advance.

[Uncle]

So, hey, I, I, I, I don't like it. Huh? I don't like it. Listen, I know they have a new regime over there in Miami. You want to tear it all the way down. I hope they keep Devon H. Hand.

[Joe]

I, I hope, yeah, they said don't

[Uncle]

think about giving him away because right, right now that would be your best offensive weapon. They still need some type of veteran presence for those young receivers, someone that they can count on for that quarterback. You got, you got to have it.

[Joe]

No, the Broncos gave up a first round pick. They gave up this, they gave up their first round pick this year and a second round pick.

[Uncle]

But hey, they, they, they can take

[Joe]

the, the fourth Broncos could afford to do that.

[Uncle]

Look at the defense, they can afford to do that.

[Joe]

They just, for me, I'd rather have AJ Brown. I'd rather have AJ Brown.

[Uncle]

Wait, as opposed, we talk about, for

[Joe]

the Broncos as opposed to Waddle.

[Uncle]

Okay, I understand what you're saying.

[Joe]

Oh, you said you'd rather have Wallace Brown.

[Uncle]

AJ Brown is obviously the better player, but hey, Waddle ain't no goddamn slouch. Now, we can't do that.

[Ocho]

Right, right.

[Uncle]

We talk about somebody that can also take something short, take some intermediate and

[Joe]

go, yeah, yeah, he didn't take it out. He's the deep bread.

[Uncle]

Yeah, see, I, I, I don't, I don't want to just put Waddle in that, in that boat. We say, you know what, he's just strictly a deep there because he's so,

[Joe]

no, no, no, he, he, I seen

[Uncle]

him catch some short stuff, you know, take it.

[Joe]

Yo, for sure he got speed to burn now. But, but I mean, all honesty, oo, I don't look at Waddle as a one. I don't look at Courtland Sutton as a one.

[Ocho]

No, I don't.

[Joe]

You don't.

[Uncle]

You don't think, you don't see Sutton as one, huh?

[Joe]

Nope, I don't.

[Uncle]

Okay. Okay.

[Joe]

I don't know. I think the thing is people like, well, he's the number one receiver. Okay? Yeah, every, everybody got, everybody got to be somebody got to be the number one.

[Uncle]

But we know, we know what makes.

[Joe]

But when I look at a number one ocho, I look at a guy that says, they going in the game, they gotta stop him.

[Uncle]

Okay?

[Joe]

I don't think people go in the game saying that we got to stop Courtland Sutton, we gotta stop Jalen Waddle. They go in the game, say, we got to stop Tyreek, we got to stop Jetta. We. We got to stop Chase. I think they go in the game, we got to stop Puka. I think they jsn. They go in the game saying, we got to stop those guys. Those are, those are the guys I look at as. Okay, that's a one.

[Uncle]

I see what you mean.

[Joe]

That's a one. I look at a Nico Collins, that's a one to me. Oo now everybody got their own opinions, but I look at a one is that somebody put him the game plan, said, we got to stop him.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And I don't. I don't. I don't.

[Uncle]

When I look at Waddle, obviously, and a lot of people probably wouldn't agree with me. For someone that has speed to burn, that can take the top off a defense the way he does, that can.

[Joe]

Yes.

[Uncle]

Shorten intermediate routes and turn those into 70 and 80 yard touchdowns at times. If he's the only viable option offensively, defense adjustments when they come out the huddle are made. We have to worry about this individual right here when he goes.

[Joe]

Look at his number when Tyree got hurt, what his number looked like when Tyree got hurt.

[Uncle]

And we also know why that was.

[Joe]

See, but my thing is, Ocho, whether TJ was there or not, whether your Scott was there or not, you did what you did. That's what ones. It don't matter. It don't matter. Okay. The number two can go out. The number three can go out. Okay? So that's. That's how. That's how. That's how I judge the number one. I. I get it. Yeah, he caught this. But. But no, like I said, I judge number one A differently than most fans judge number one. But hey, to each his own. Yeah. And I'm not saying they're not. They're bad players. But I'm saying my criteria for being the number one. You got to be that boy I like. You gotta be. You gotta be that boy. You gotta require special attention. If somebody got a number one corner, they need to see you.

[Uncle]

Yeah, I know. What Just got much, much, much better with what they have already. Much better.

[Joe]

Who? The Broncos?

[Ocho]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Joe]

But I don't know. I don't know what. I don't know what the Dolphins are doing. They got so much. Oh, they got damn near $200 million in dead money.

[Uncle]

Oh, yeah. They don't care. They ain't tripping. They're not tripping. We can demolish everything and start all the way over from scratch.

[Ocho]

Damn. How you feel about your Broncos, man. I mean, what y' all missing? What you think y' all need?

[Uncle]

Y' all got every goddamn whole field.

[Joe]

Nah, I still look, I, I, we solid. But if you look at the, look at the teams. When I look at the teams that like, I look at the Rams, they got a number one receiver, Puka. Yeah. And then you got devontae. You look at jsn, you look at the teams and they got. I just like and look, I think Bo is good. I thought Bo had an unbelievable season. It would have been great to see what the Broncos could have done had he been healthy. We'll never know. Do I think they would have won if they'd had both? Would it beat the Patriots? Yes, I believe they.

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[Joe]

I want to play making tight end. That's what I want. A playmaking tight end. They don't have that. They got guys yeah. Nothing special.

[Uncle]

I don't know. Y'. All. Y' all loaded that hell.

[Joe]

Go get there. We got a bunch of receivers, but ain't no hell raisers. Man, I don't need oo. You need a difference maker. The Dave. Okay. The Patriots could win with. With a hodgepodge of guys, man. Come on, now. They. Everybody keep on thinking. Everybody keep on thinking they gonna be. They gonna be Kansas City. Well, you gonna be Kansas City. Your quarterback better be, my homes. Because sometimes you need your guy to make that guy look good. We're gonna find out because guess what? Everybody start dying in the bottom in the ravine. Ocho, you don't. You don't. You don't get to pick up where you left off. You don't get to pick back up at the AFC Championship, NFC Championship or the divisional rounds or the playoffs. You got to start all the way at the bottom.

[Ocho]

What have you done for me lately?

[Joe]

Hey, that's it. And don't nobody care about last year. Last year ain't got nothing to do with this year.

[Ocho]

Hello.

[Joe]

You know, hey, you look, man. You know you got the homeboy. Man, I used to date a. I used to date a lawyer or a doctor. Where's she at now? You ain't got no doctor, or you're under your arm, so I don't know what you used to have. I'm telling you what you got right now. Hey, hey, Shot, man. Hey. She a lawyer.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, man, what I look bad shot, man. You know, she was tripping. You didn't see like she was tripping when you was shouting out on credentials. Oh, yeah. She in med school.

[Ocho]

Right, right, right. Hey, hey, hey. They can't wait to brag on the girl, can they?

[Joe]

Hey, Cass. Can't wait. You got that, homeboy. Hey, Sean, what you think? She nice.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Got you a little something.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

You know, he'll heal a little. Old doctor. Yeah.

[Ocho]

Facts, facts, that show how Cass be. I've been dating for a little while.

[Uncle]

Yeah.

[Ocho]

She got her own paper. Yeah. She bad boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

This boy you gotta watch out for, man. I will. Hold on. Who's that? Simba was talking, telling the story about how he. He introduced this girl to the game and game. Sliding the girl.

[Ocho]

Dm. Oh, man.

[Uncle]

Who's that? Who's the game?

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Joe]

You know, Hurricane Game, the game. The rapper.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. But y' all know how the game played now. Y' all know it's. It's some cats out here who don't mind now. Hey, putting that knife in your back and twist it a little, bro.

[Joe]

Yeah, hello. I introduced old boy to somebody. I said, hey, man.

[Uncle]

Okay.

[Joe]

Right here?

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Hey, y'. All. Now, mind you, I don't say no name, but I did put a word in for him. Help them get a job with a team in the league.

[Uncle]

Take your time.

[Joe]

Now, I entered right there, but people right here. Yeah, she nice. She nice.

[Ocho]

How?

[Joe]

Two days later, she sent me a f. You know him. He don't smell about. It was nice to meet you this weekend.

[Uncle]

Oh, that's dirty business.

[Ocho]

Oh, boy, I. I done had something worse than.

[Uncle]

Joe.

[Joe]

What happened? Joe, talk to me.

[Ocho]

Hey, I had.

[Joe]

Did I call him? Oh, you. Oh, you call him? I introd. I said, bro, I introduce you. Nah, man, I. I thought that was her. What difference does it make?

[Uncle]

Hey, he playing nasty, huh? He playing nasty. Joe. What happened with you, Joe?

[Ocho]

Man, this was a long, long, long time hold on.

[Joe]

Long time, man.

[Ocho]

I was. I was. I was dating this girl, and one day after practice, she hit me.

[Uncle]

She hit me.

[Ocho]

She going off. She was like, I can't believe. You think I would try trying to run with one of your teammates.

[Uncle]

This.

[Joe]

That.

[Ocho]

I'm like, what are you talking about? She was like, one of your teammates called me, said, he got my number from you. I'm like, say, he got my number from you. I'm like, man, I ain't got nobody. So somebody done went and my phone during practice, and they got the number out and then hit her, and now she think I'm the one put. I told him to. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I don't do no dirty business.

[Uncle]

Hold on. Time out, Joe. He went in your phone and got the girl number?

[Ocho]

Yeah, man. Got the girl number, called her, then

[Joe]

tried to throw his little whoop down that dirty outro.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I can't believe you ain't had no. Oh, man.

[Uncle]

Can I. Can I be honest with you?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

Hey. Hey. Joe and uncle. Like, I normally never been number one and always. Always been in the number two spot. Most of the time. Most of my life, most of my, you know, career. Especially during.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Uncle]

That's why I'm so cautious, because I understand how the game go, because I didn't been number one so long, I didn't seen everything and had worked, you know, So I. I always thought.

[Ocho]

You mean you'd have been number two?

[Uncle]

Yeah, I didn't been number two so long, so I done seen all the plays and. And all the stuff that they do and the lies. And I didn't, you know, you sitting here with me, you on the phone with him. Oh, I'm about to go to sleep. And so I understand that. So I. I've always been real cautious about being number one because I understand how. How it was to. So long.

[Ocho]

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Uncle]

Anytime I see any kind of confusion on or I see any. Any signs.

[Joe]

Oh, that one thing you will do now, my homeboy got no. My homeboy Ocho ain't got no problem being around. He still circus coming. He dress up immediately.

[Uncle]

Hey, hey, Joe. Oh, oh, are you trying to be funny? Oh, babe, we can make it a comedy show if that's what you want to do, you know,

[Joe]

but, Joe, I can. Joe, I sit there, I hey. I walked up to him, I said, hey, but bad.

[Uncle]

Hey.

[Joe]

This my boy right here. We worked out together.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

Hey, hey. And Joe, Joe, you've been in the big league, uncle. You've been in the big leagues. We live a different lifestyle. You hear the stories all the time, Joe. You know how. You know how the game goes.

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[Uncle]

Big face, big fish take little fish. It's always been that way. And most of the time.

[Joe]

But I, I. If I go around Ocho, I go around somebody, I ain't even looking. As a matter of fact, I don't even feel comfortable. I'm gonna move. I'm gonna. I'm not, bro. Check this out. So we there. Me and I know, I know old boy. I know to do. I. But one of his homeboys. So, you know, I'm, you know, I'm doing what I'm doing. I'm working.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So. But leave. Go to another station. She like, babe, I want to get you upset, but do he know that I'm with you? I was like, yeah. Why? He said, but because every time you look away and I look up, he winking and smiling.

[Ocho]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

So I like, for real. I said, okay. I say. I said, maybe you. Maybe it ain't like that. She said, you know what? Maybe you right. So we go sit down. I'm done with my thing. We just sitting on the couch. We just sitting there. She lean over. It ain't my imagination. You're doing it for real. And I told him that I was with you, and I think it's disrespectful.

[Ocho]

Damn.

[Joe]

So I said, well, let me. Let me have. She said, no, no. She said, if it's a guy, it's my job to handle it. If it's a lady, it's your job to handle it. She said, I said, don't worry about it. So I called old boy that he was with because I've been knowing him for years. I said, my man, I don't know if you know this, but let me. Let me pull you. Let me pull you. Let me pull your shirt on something.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

He said, what's. He said, what's up, Shot? I said, oh, boy, that's with you. He's being disrespectful. I said, I didn't step to him and make no scene because of you, but him doing what he's doing is a reflection of. Of you because you got him in your company.

[Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Joe]

I said out of respect to you. He said, you know what? He said, I'mma handle it. He said, give me 10 minutes, I'mma call you back. He hit me back. He said, I handled it and everything that you said, you right. He said, you know, I ain't got nothing but love for you. He said, I've been knowing you since I was in college, and you always been straight with me.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So I will be straight with you. I handled that situation. I'm like, dude. I said y'. All. But it's. But it's all. It's always been like that with me. I mean, I'm talking to. I might. I might. I don't go out that much. I might go out one time.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Talk to the girl. She called me. Oh, you. Why you tell such and such. I said, I didn't tell nobody nothing. You think I want my business out there? Well, he said that you said he done went back because he saw us talking. He done went back, told the girl that I told everybody the locker room I was having sex with him.

[Ocho]

Oh, man.

[Joe]

Hey, see, that's why I move. That's why I move by myself.

[Uncle]

It's a dirty game, Uncle Joe.

[Joe]

Come on. It is. It is always been. If I. If I. If I see somebody with somebody, it ain't no misunderstanding. She with him. I don't care what the capacity is.

[Ocho]

Right.

[Joe]

If I see y' all out of the club, I see y' all at a restaurant. I'm assuming y' all together.

[Ocho]

Hello.

[Joe]

I'm cool with it.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

It's too many. It's too many to try to butt heads with you over one.

[Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Joe]

I don't care how good she. How beautiful she is, and there have been some beautiful women, but, nah, it ain't that serious, man.

[Uncle]

Hey, Joe, you know, for. You know, uncle no, firsthand, boy.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Uncle]

You hear me?

[Ocho]

It's a dirty game, Joe.

[Uncle]

You Not Joe,

[Joe]

but see, Ocho, you keep the twelves, though. You keep a 12. That one thing about a. Look here. He keep a 12 on.

[Uncle]

I didn't say. I didn't say that. I didn't sat down, Joe.

[Ocho]

I'm saying you by you. You ready to get married?

[Uncle]

I'm about to jump. I might. Two brooms, huh? Hey, matter of. Matter of fact, I'm gonna say after. After I whoop your ass, I'm gonna jump the broom.

[Ocho]

Hey, hey, bro, I don't want to lump you up for your wedding now.

[Joe]

I just need three minutes. Three minutes.

[Ocho]

Jeff, man, but then.

[Joe]

But who does that? Oo you. I ain't no way somebody say, hey, this my girl. Oo hey, how you doing? Such and such. And then you gonna slide on a dm, man.

[Ocho]

It's cat.

[Joe]

You gonna be winking at her.

[Ocho]

It's cats out here like that.

[Uncle]

That's even. I didn't. What. What I done showed you.

[Joe]

You showed it to me now. You did.

[Ocho]

It's some cats out there like that.

[Uncle]

What are you telling. But my grandma. My grandma always had a saying, Joe. My grandma. My grandma. How would you know about this? Why are you talking to me like this? Like, baby, I don't understand. I don't. I don't care who you're dating, asking me, you make it. You have to understand most of the people that you're going to meet at this point now that you are who you are and you're making what you make. It's not who you are, it's what you can do. And she might say she love you. But if anybody asking your girl is single, depending on who the person is asking, so. You're not hearing me, Joe.

[Joe]

I'm picking up what you're putting down,

[Uncle]

depending on who it is, trying to holler.

[Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Uncle]

It ain't Sunday. I'm not here to preach. I'm not here to do that. But there have been many examples. Even in the chat, there have been many examples. I'm sure y' all could understand what I'm talking about. And at our level, it's even worse. It's about opportunity. Many of those that we have access to are opportunists. And when a better opportunity presents itself and they know they can't get caught, they gonna play the game.

[Ocho]

Absolutely.

[Joe]

But y' all do realize the night has a thousand. On most night, it has a thousand and two. Cause somebody see you.

[Ocho]

Hello. Hello.

[Joe]

Could that happen? I mean, until this day I shut it down. I ain't say nothing up What? I ain't saying what I know who told me, but they saw it.

[Ocho]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Getting out of one car, getting into another. Don't to this day, don't even know. I just stopped talking.

[Ocho]

Thought they were low as the floater.

[Joe]

1:30 in the morning, you know the time. And all the time, each call and told me. Yeah, because this was. Because he's like, hey, hey. He's like. He's like, dog, you in such and such still together. So you know when somebody asks you a question like that? So I got.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

He's like, hey, dog. I said, what? What you see dog? Man, I saw her getting out of such and such car.

[Ocho]

Oh my. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

What time was this? 1:30. You know what I'm saying? Like 1:30. He say.

[Ocho]

He say, homeboy. He said.

[Joe]

He said. Cause he called me. He called me room. He called me room. He's like, room. He's like, I was creeping too.

[Ocho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

I said, okay. I said, there are certain people that'll tell you things. It's just like God. Just like God himself spoke it to me.

[Uncle]

And sometimes Joe. Joe and uncle. People ain't got to tell you all you got to do.

[Ocho]

You already know.

[Uncle]

Just pay attention. They tell on yourself.

[Joe]

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[Uncle]

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[Joe]

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[Uncle]

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