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Nightcap Hour 2: Questioning JAGS usage of TRAVIS HUNTER? + Patrick Surtain DISRESPECTS Ocho + MICAH looks forward to SACKING DAK+ SHAUN ALEXANDER has 14 KIDS?!
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Colin Coward
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Shannon Sharpe
Now.
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Liam Cole
Yeah, he's one right now. One position on offense and one position on defense. So that doesn't really fully change. It's just more the next guy having to go and adjust to go play some Z, which is what happened in the game. So, no, I don't think it changes.
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Shannon Sharpe
Much and that's not going to change until after the season where he'll be. He'll spread his wing a little bit on offensive. On offensive, yeah.
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Liam Cole
I don't think it's fair right now to say, hey dude, go learn Z and x and 12 and this and that. It's like, man, we gotta make sure he can really go and execute what we're asking them to do, first and foremost, which is play F and play corner. So I think as we go and as he goes, I gotta believe that it'll continue to do this.
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That's why you see more Parker when Diamond goes down.
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Shannon Sharpe
So more opportunities for Parker.
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Commercial Announcer 1
I know he was very transparent with us about the two drops. You said he had great practice last week, expectations for his usage.
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Liam Cole
Yeah, I think I have not lost any confidence in Parker by any means. Stuff happens. It's not obviously something that we're excited about in the moment, but, you know, he took full. He takes a lot of responsibility and accountability. He works his tail off every single day. Practice. Like, like I said, he literally had his best week of practice last week as a Jag since we've been here. So, you know, there's a lot of confidence. Really the message to him is, dude, like, we got to just move forward, man.
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Shannon Sharpe
I agree.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
I mean, me, I always thought Ocho, he would be better served playing defense and then have packages for him on offense. I mean, but everybody, everybody want the man to just, hey, we gonna just throw him in there and let him play, bro, this ain't college. I don't care what anybody says. I don't care how many snaps he played and how great he was. This is the best of the best. There's a reason why they stopped doing that in the 60s. There's a reason. So to ask this man. And see, I'm not concerned, Ocho. There've been a lot of guys that can play both ways, but can you play them at an elite level? Cause that's what it comes down to. You see, Troy Brown played offense to defense. You saw Julian Edelman play it in spurts, but can you play it at the level? Can you hold your own against ja' Marr Chase? And then can you go beat Pat Surtan on a consistent basis? You, can you beat Stingley on a consistent basis? Can you beat Sauce Garner on a consistent basis? Okay, can you D up Jetta? Can you D up Neighbors Brian Thomas Jr. Chase, can you do that? So this notion about, oh, he can do that, he can do that. I want to see him do it at an elite level on both sides of the ball. And the coaches said there'll be a time for that. Let the guy get used to the system.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
He's not there yet. Obviously, this is, this is, this is.
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Shannon Sharpe
The best thing, but everybody talking about they, they misusing, they're not misusing him.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I think they just bringing them along slowly. Not just throwing them, not throwing to the fire, throwing them out there to the wolves, allowing them to get acclimated, learn everything so you don't have to think, could you play your best? When he was at Colorado, he already knew what to do. Yeah, that's why he was playing his best.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I don't have to think. I can just go play and react. So once he gets to that point over there in Jacksonville, then they add a little bit more on his plate. Okay, we go, you know, we got this. Okay, he got F. Okay, now we could teach him Z. Add a little more on his plate. Okay, Boom.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, he got Z. Now we can add X.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Then defensively, okay, he's a little bit more, he's a little comfortable now. Boom. Maybe we can put him in on first and second downs instead of waiting until third. Just, just, just little, just bringing him along slow. So I, I, I think it's kind of smart. Smart them, the way they're using them right now. I think there'll be certain situations, certain circumstances where they will need that advantage, that mismatch that, that he does create on both sides of the ball.
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Shannon Sharpe
I think the thing is OO is that, look, you know when you was a kid and you like, give me some. No, eat what's on your plate. Let him eat what is on his plate. Let him get this position. Let him master that. And then as he starts to master that, I don't care what anybody says. Pro offenses are more complicated than college offenses. Pro defenses are more complicated than college defenses. That's just the way it is. And the athletes are better, Just better. I don't care. Look, and the sec, we believe the SEC and the Big Ten is as close To NFL as we get. Guess what? There are a lot of guys in the SEC and the Big Ten that don't make it in the NFL. All those guys that come out there on Sunday, they made it. And there are a lot of guys that played in. That played in the conferences that didn't make it. So you're talking about the best of the best. And that's the thing. Ocho, it's not enough for him to just say, I played both sides of the football. People want to see he won the Heisman Trophy because he was elite on both sides of the ball. If he's not elite on both sides of the ball, Ocho, what are we doing? Let's be all the way. Real chat. What are we doing? The thing about the suv, Ocho, that's what made the SUV so popular. Ocho. I can hide my kids in it and I can pull up to it. I can go, hey, I can be in the carpool line or I can go to. I can go to a. A black tie dinner. I can do both. I can drive in the summertime. Hey, I can be at Miami and drive my suv. But guess what? I can go to Minnesota and also do it. So if I. If it. If it doesn't give me that kind of value, what are we doing? Ojo, you're right. But.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But another thing, too, also. You took him so high, right?
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Shannon Sharpe
You traded Ocho. You traded up to get it right.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
So we go into the week foe. Now, I understand it's a long season, but what you add on to that plate, we need to keep on. We need to keep on adding and see that a little bit more week to week.
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Shannon Sharpe
And I think that's what they're going to do. Ocho, I mean, I think he played. This was the first time that he played more defense than he played offense, but I think he was still around 60 plays. They just. We just haven't seen him get in the end zone. We haven't seen him get any interceptions, which we routinely saw at Colorado. Man, this is this the NFL. Y' all realize this the best of the best. This is the top.0000.1%. That's what that is, bro. I don't think people get it. I don't. I think the thing is that people just. People actually thought Ocho, he was going to just walk in there and do what in the NFL what he did at Colorado. And then if you say Ocho, like, man, Ocho said, I got 11 years of this thing, man. That thing ain't that easy. I got 14. I said, man, it's not that easy. Oh, y' all hating? No, we're just telling you what it's gonna take to play at that level. They didn't even. Time didn't even play both ways. And Time was as talented as anybody that's ever stepped foot in the NFL.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Greatest of all time.
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Shannon Sharpe
I mean, time, they had a package. Time was a. Did what he did defensively, and then he would come in with a package. Now he played a little bit more. When I think Michael got hurt one year or the number two receiver got hurt, and so he played more.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Same thing with Champ. Same thing with Champ in Washington. Yes, same way.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yep. But for me, personally, I don't think they're misusing Trav. I think they're building them up slowly and slowly and keep putting more and more on his plate, and the more he can eat, the more he can digest. And we'll just keep going like. Going like that until we build it out. We don't need. Hey, this thing. We don't need to build this overnight. We don't need to try to have him learn X, Y, X, Z, F. We don't need to do all that. Hey, you got the slot. Oh, you play. Oh, you. You playing. You playing outside, you playing inside, you playing dime. We don't need to do all that. Ojo. There will be a time that it'll be second nature, but I'm. I'm sure there's a lot going on in this place, but it's ojo. It's hard because to get good at something, you do it all the time, over and over. Repetition. Yeah, it's.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
It's repetition in the funny. It's funny.
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Shannon Sharpe
So he go from. He go from a standing split to now he's in a backpedal.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And the funny thing, he won't be the. The Travis Hunter we're used to seeing that we saw in Colorado. He won't be that into the NFL until he knows everything. He's still thinking. He's still thinking. I know it's football at the end of the day, but he's still thinking. It's your rookie year. You're going into week four, you're still thinking. So they're putting you in advantageous positions where you don't have to think. You just got to play. That's why you play. That's why you're so small right now. So all you have to do is just play and let your God given ability and what you've learned so far Take over?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes. I mean, give him a year or two. Let's see where he's at halfway through the season. Let's see where he's at at the end of the season. Let's see where he's at in year two, year three.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
It's so funny.
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Shannon Sharpe
But in order, in order for this to make sense, he's gonna have to be lead on both levels. Cuz you took him so high. You took him with the number two pick in the draft. Number two pick in the draft is supposed to be franchise altering.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. And they can't.
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Shannon Sharpe
No matter what position, no matter what position it is, he's supposed to be franchise.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You can't use him in that position yet. Because franchise, franchise altering is usually held for the quarterback position outside of elite skilled players. At most of the time it's the receiver, receiver, DB within it. Yeah, DBs come around every so often. But receiver, quarterback or running back. Franchise altering. But his plate isn't full enough for him to be franchise altering right now.
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Shannon Sharpe
Correct.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
It's not.
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Shannon Sharpe
It's hard. I mean it's. It like I, I don't envy him. I understand that he wants to do things that nobody's ever done. And it's been a long time since we got had a guy that. This talent. We saw Champ Bailey do it. Miles Jack did it as a running back and a linebacker at ucla. But it ain't easy. It ain't easy to be elite because with the number two pick, you're supposed to be elite. And he wants to be elite on both sides of the football. Now, you know, you asked time, time said, look, had I had I devoted what I devoted to being a wide receiver like I devoted to db. Ain't no question in my mind. I get a gold jacket as a wide receiver. And I believe it. I believe it because he was just so. He was just so gifted.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
He.
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Shannon Sharpe
God just gave that man so much ability. But people. But see, a lot of times, Ocho, when God gives somebody ability, they make it seem like they don't work. Time worked time. Study. But see, you like man, God. No, no. Yes, God blessed him. But the greatest are when God blessed you. And you're the hardest worker. You get a Tom Brady, you get a Deion Sanders, you get a Kobe Bryant, you get a Michael Jordan, you get a LeBron James, you get a Griffey Jr. That's what you get. You get a Barry Bonds, you get that. That's what you get when you take a Tiger Woods, Serena, Serena Williams. That's what you get when God kiss you with God given ability and work ethic.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You dangerous boy. You dangerous. And the funny thing about it is he already he got the work ethic too. Not only do we have the worth ethic, but he goddamn believe he can do it. He believed he could do it.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's part of it.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That's. I was just gonna say that's part of it. Once you believe you could do something. Oh sh. Boy. It's up then.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ocho Taron Arnold and Pat Satan. Got some words for you, Ocho. Take a listen to what they got.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Here they talking about. It's 2005 and we're covering prime. Ocho Cinco.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, the one with the quick feet.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
The one with the releases open every Sunday. What's your defensive philosophy going up against a guy like Ocho?
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Taron Arnold
You know, it's 2005, so the game a little different. Whatever he sent me to my locker, whether it had been Pepto Bismo, a bottle of ketchup or whatever he decided them whole antics or whatever, I would have sent it right back to. Yeah, I would've sent some glue just as far as me approaching him. And you already know this. If you gonna play press and you gonna open the gate, you might as well just play off facts. My whole thing when I get in front of Ocho and with him being a Smaller guy, small. I'll play press. I'm not gonna lie, he might think this disrespectful, but I'm playing inside leverage. You gotta beat me on the nine.
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Shannon Sharpe
He ain't gonna outrun you, you feel me?
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Taron Arnold
You gotta beat me on the nine. And I know he quicker than fast. Them plays where I get them cover.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Tools for the hands.
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Taron Arnold
He decided to catch some hitches and stuff. Hey, I gotta make you pay when I attack you.
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Shannon Sharpe
He approached the line, he going up.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
To the db, say, I'm telling you what route I'm running. You still ain't gonna stop it.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yes, I'll be down.
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Taron Arnold
Hey, what they say? You just tried.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You telling me your route. Oh, you think I'm a scrub?
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Taron Arnold
That's equivalent to you lining up and saying, look, fam, safety leaning the other direction. It's just me and you, bro.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it's just me and you.
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Taron Arnold
Whatever you want to run, bro. To take outside releases is me. You on the sidelines of Jesus, brother.
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Shannon Sharpe
You pick your poison.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, one thing, one thing about it, boy. One thing about it. When it comes to Jesus, he had 12 disciples. You're gonna need all 12 of them to stop me, boy. Them young whipple stabbers that lost their mind, boy. Listen, I'm gonna beat him. I'm gonna beat him in the talk game first before we even get to the field. Imma beat him in the media before we get to the field. I love Pat, I love Taron Arnold, but I don't study them boys. And I ain't even playing unk. And I can tell you how to beat him already. Terry Arnold said the first thing he said was is I'm a play inside. The fact that you said you gonna give me a one way go, a free release outside lets me know you've done already for one. It ain't about you catching up. It's the fact that I can run full speed and run by you and stop on a dime that lets me know I'm gonna beat you on every route.
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm a. I'm a run a comeback. I'm a running. I'm a run a square. I'm a run a speed out of your ass everything.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And P2. And he talk about you smaller then you talk about 2005 with a different era. You goddamn right, boy. I played against the 2000 Steelers. I played against the 2000 Ravens. You talk about you're gonna make me feel it when you tackle me. I feel what you understand where I played like that?
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Shannon Sharpe
What era they don't play like that.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Come on, now.
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Shannon Sharpe
They don't play like that. They ain't physical like that.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And P2, you sitting there talking too.
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Shannon Sharpe
You.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You can get this work in the off season. What you talking about?
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, bad back. See, like, them guys get up to like. I see guys like. Like in the 90s Oo. When I first came into the league.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
If you.
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Shannon Sharpe
If you do. If you do this at the line of scrimmage, them jokes coming up right.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Away, they stabbing right away.
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Shannon Sharpe
They coming through your chin. All. All that dancing. You better say that for the club.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But listen, this the funny thing about it, too. I like something that they said is what's the point of playing press if you're gonna open up but you dead to right. Yep, you dead to right. You sit there and think you're gonna spread your legs or you're gonna sit there and be square and stay there with me, boy, you've done. You cook. I ain't even no chef, but I'm gonna cook you. What you talking about? You better open the gate if anything.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hell no, you can't open the gate. You open. If you open the door, flies come in.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But who you telling, Miss Me. It's me.
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm saying, don't. They can't. They cannot. If you open the door, flies come in your house. When flies come in your house, bad things.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You don't open the door, I'm gonna pick your lock.
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Shannon Sharpe
Listen.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
So either way, you done.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hey, that. That's the thing. Like I said, it had been different. Ocho. I think the thing is, had they been in this era, so maybe they'll be physical. It's hard to say I'll be physical if you didn't come up in a physical era.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
No.
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Shannon Sharpe
You know what I'm saying? Because I believe. I believe it's easy to come up in a physical area era and translate in this era, as opposed to coming up in this era here and trying to go back to physicality.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
No, absolutely.
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Shannon Sharpe
It's like. It's like a coach. It's even. It's easier as a parent to be hard and be. And become lenient as opposed to be lenient and then trying to be tough. Because all the teachers that let you did whatever you talk and talk and get up when you want to and go to the bathroom the moment they said, shannon, sit down and be man, please.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I. I like. I like them boys, though. I love the fact. And I. I love the fact that they have a podcast, especially defensive backs. It's not too many times we have players of their caliber, especially P2 Terian Arnold is coming along. He's doing, he's doing very well, getting much better this year. Not very many times we have players that like to voice their opinions on some of the nuances of the game. So it's good to see active players willing to open up whether they're playing good or whether they're playing bad and talk about the game of football. So I really enjoy stuff like that. So Terry R&P2 Man, I salute y' all boys. I love you. But listen, if y' all want to get in in the off season, my feet still have a mind of their own. Even at 57.
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Shannon Sharpe
Sean Payton defended Bo Nick's mechanics today with the promise that the big plays will come. Peyton said offense's biggest problem is that he hasn't found its identity and that has been affected Knicks as well. Knicks is 25th in the league in QBR at 41 1/2 41.8. Knicks narrowly missed multiple potential big plays in the loss against the Chargers on Sunday, all overthrown, including a wide open Courtland Sutton in the fourth quarter. The Broncos also had seven possessions in which they totaled nine or fewer yards, four possession in which they had one yard Viewer, that ain't good. Oh yeah, Peyton encouraged him to just keep firing. He's going to hit plenty of those. One of the things that the gift off his off schedule throws but you don't want to be careful of how much you tell him when you settle into certain plays there's a rhythm to the mechanics but overall I think the ball is coming out well.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, he'll be fine. He'll be fine. He'll find his. He'll find his groove, he'll get into rhythm, he'll find that flow of the offense. Remember that I just told you offenses don't get into a rhythm and flow until maybe week five or week six. Defenses is really easier and they're ahead of the curve because all they're doing is reading, reading and reacting. So it's going to come. I know that's your team. I'm not even here going to make no jokes about them. But Bo Knicks play very well.
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Shannon Sharpe
No, you got to make those plays.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, Blink played very well last year so the people making fun of his mechanics, nothing had changed. He just not into the rhythm and what you've seen from him last year, it's going to come. It's. It's so early. It's so early.
- [26:13]
Shannon Sharpe
That's the thing. Is that what's so impressive about great players is that just because you did something one year, it doesn't automatically mean you're going to do it again the next year. You got to go back and do it all over again. That's the one thing I love most about professional sports. You get an opportunity to update your resume on a weekly basis. On basketball, sometimes it's on a nightly basis, but you get to update your resume because what's on your resume ain't got nothing to do with what you're going to do. Yes, today I got to go out there and prove it. So I'm updating my resume every Sunday and every Monday. Well, you know, I think I play. I play one Thursday game Thanksgiving Day, but I. That's when you up. I gotta update my resume. I like, oh, I don't want to hear nothing about you went to the Pro Bowl. I don't care nothing about you and all pro. Can you be. Can you be a Pro bowl player and an all pro player today?
- [27:06]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Exactly.
- [27:07]
Shannon Sharpe
That's all I care about. That ish that you did last year. They ain't got nothing to do with that.
- [27:12]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Nothing.
- [27:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Because I'm approved. I'm going to show you why I got voted in. I got. Look, the fans voted, the coaches voted, my peers voted. A lot of guys that voted didn't never play the game. They voted me off. I'm gonna show you today you gonna lead this game. So. Yeah. Yeah. Man. 84. Hey, sharp, sharp. He read for real now. He talked. But hey, he, he got. I'm gonna show you there'll be no questions in your mind who and what I am. I promise you. But all that. I don't care nothing about what you did last year. That's what you gotta see. Having played this game, having played professional sports, I have the utmost respect for guys that do this ish year in and year out. You gotta respect Brady, you gotta respect LeBron because no matter what you think, if you say, oh, he flopped or he this, he's not Jordan, okay, For the sake of this conversation, we. Let's just say he's not Jordan. All I know, in year 22, he averaged 24.
- [28:13]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
88.
- [28:16]
Shannon Sharpe
He still voted. He's still a top 10 player. Nobody in the history of the game has been a top 10 player for this long.
- [28:25]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That much longevity.
- [28:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Nobody has been an all NBA selection this late in their career. Go back and look at all the guys that played 20 or more seasons and see what they average as far as points, as far as rebounds, as far as Assists. Go back and look at the guys that played as long as Brady played and see what they did. That's what you got to respect about those guys, because they do it year in, year out, game in and game out, and when you play, because sometimes I don't think people realize. I don't think your people get the appreciate. They don't get the appreciation that they deserve. But if you play this game, you understand it.
- [29:05]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You understand it.
- [29:08]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, absolutely. But like I said last year, look, we don't want to sit because we keep saying we just automatically assumed Ocho, that CJ Stroud was go, hey, he has yet to look like he did his rookie year.
- [29:26]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. Yeah.
- [29:28]
Shannon Sharpe
People get tape on you and think about. And the longer you play Ocho, guess what? The more tape they get, the more intel, the more info they. They like Uncle Sam. Uncle Sam know you've been dodging your taxes. They let you go until you can't. We see his account. Yeah, we got him upside down now. Let's go on in there. That's how. That's how the league is. They get more and more intel. More and more intel. That's all they're doing is gathering intel. Well, guess what? I'm gathering intel, too.
- [30:01]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Most definitely. I think. I think. Oh, it's. It's. They. He's struggling. He's struggling. He's struggling. I mean, Cam. Cam Ward is. He's little up and down. He's showing little flashes.
- [30:15]
Shannon Sharpe
But see, Cam, teammates just need to catch the ball. That.
- [30:18]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That too. C.J. strive. They. They gonna. They gonna. They gonna. They gonna find it. They got. They got to. They got to find it. But they ain't look. He ain't look the same last year collectively as a team, they didn't. And so this year. This year is picking up, picking up right where they left off.
- [30:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Pick it up. Picking up where they left off from last year.
- [30:36]
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Shannon Sharpe
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- [34:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Earlier this week, Michael Parsons said it would be painful to sack Dak. I hope it's not painful for me and I hope he doesn't get me. Get to me for one. Just excited to go out there and have that matchup. But he's got five guys in front of him, plus a tight end and running backs that he's got to get through. Then I'll worry about. Worry about if he can get to me.
- [34:52]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [34:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, have you ever faced your team? Have you ever faced anybody that you, you know, a former teammate? Because you say you didn't play when you played with the New England. You said you didn't play against. I didn't.
- [35:03]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I didn't. So I didn't really get the opportunity to face against anybody that was a teammate of mine. Not that I can recall right off the top of my head. Especially not someone that I was going to have to deal with at the defensive back position. I don't think I did.
- [35:19]
Shannon Sharpe
I did.
- [35:20]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Who you had to face Kansas City.
- [35:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Glenn Kudraus was our middle linebacker on one of our super bowl teams. I told him, I said, bro, if I outplay you, it's over. I told the defensive coordinator, Greg Robinson, rest his soul. I said, greg, this defense is unsound. I say, I promise you, I have 200 yards on you, and I get 200 on you.
- [35:43]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
How many you had?
- [35:46]
Shannon Sharpe
214. I just saw the defense. I just saw. It's unsound, right? But hey, and I'm like, you can't. You can't. I said, first of all, you can't guard me, bro. I mean, look, I get practice because y' all look, Ocho, you know what they do? They go look at the script. They see where the ball going. And they pretend. Yes. And they pretend like they know they. Oh, they did it up. But they already know. They cheat.
- [36:14]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I hate.
- [36:14]
Shannon Sharpe
So they know I'm gonna run a basic Cross. So I'm gonna run an hour. I'm gonna seven. And so they don't go for none of the fakes. They just. Oh, okay. Now, if we get into a game, you're not gonna know. You're not gonna be able to look at.
- [36:26]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You gotta read and react.
- [36:29]
Shannon Sharpe
And so the moves that you don't buy for in practice, I guarantee you, you're gonna bite the game.
- [36:34]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Absolutely.
- [36:37]
Shannon Sharpe
I told him. It just so happens he's the defensive coordinator for the Kansas City Chiefs and Cadreus was the middle linebacker.
- [36:48]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You gave him that work, huh?
- [36:52]
Shannon Sharpe
I had a. I had 181 in the second half, bro. I said, bro.
- [37:03]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, that's funny.
- [37:05]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you know when a defense is unsound and you know when a player really can't do anything against you? Now, I give prime example now, he. I mean, our defensive lineman, he got two and a half sacks against Baselli when Biselli was at his apex.
- [37:22]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yes, Jacksonville, yes. Well, he was the real deal.
- [37:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Two and a half. But I'm like, bro, you not gonna be. You not finna D me. I know. I quit. I take. Hey, you know, a wrestling. When they gonna retire? They take the shoes off and sell them in the middle of the ring. I said, man, if you D me up, I'm gonna take my shoulder pads off, my helmet, shoes, and sit them in the middle of the field. I'm done. Bed, please. I might as well be done. I can't get no job. Who gonna hire me? He D me up.
- [37:57]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, that's. That's. That's funny. That's funny.
- [38:01]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, but I was like, look, but I love going against guys because practice was really hard for me when guys didn't study the script and they get. I needed feedback, Ocho. Hey. They would tell me, sharp, you lean into that one. That's kind of how I got the jump on it. You gave me a tail. You got on your toes. I know when you get ready to break, you start getting on them toes. So they would give me feedback.
- [38:25]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Man.
- [38:26]
Shannon Sharpe
And then I. And then when I got into the game, you. You think just by watching me all week that you're gonna be able to stop me in the game?
- [38:35]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That don't work. That don't work.
- [38:36]
Shannon Sharpe
Boy, please.
- [38:38]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That do not work. It's a different ball game.
- [38:41]
Shannon Sharpe
No, it doesn't. Not, Not. Not for me. But look, I. I just think the thing is that you work. You look at it, you look. Okay. And the thing was hard for me, Ocho, because the way they covered another tight end they weren't gonna cover me like that because I had a different set of skills. Most tight ends were cumbersome, and, you know, you caught 25 passes. You had an outstanding. Yeah, they were very robotic. They played bumper cars. I was like, oh, no.
- [39:08]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Ah.
- [39:08]
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, I ain't trying to let you touch me. I'm undersized. I already know I'm an undersized tight end. I'm not gonna let you bump into you so you can grab me. No, let those big tight ends, those 250, 260 guys, play bumper cars. Nah, bro, I'm oled. I ain't trying to. Hey, I'm. Hey, I'm moving. I got. Why. Hey, I was a former wide receiver, so I understand my strength. Not emphasis. A corner. Yeah. I want you. I'm gonna get physical. I want you to get up there, bro. You really. That's what you're doing. Nothing today. Hey, they up there wiggling it, but nothing today. Sharp. Oh, you know how to get this dance, Ocho.
- [39:43]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, ain't doing all that. Side to side. A little side to side getting ready.
- [39:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Get your ass out the way. That. That's what we doing. Man, I wish you could have gone against some of your former teammates.
- [39:58]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That would have been fun. Boy. That would have been fun. That would have really been.
- [40:02]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, man. Hey, to. To be back there be. Cuz ain't nothing like. But, you know, the thing was, Oo, like when I played the Broncos in the. In the playoff game, I really didn't do no talking.
- [40:13]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
No.
- [40:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Nope.
- [40:14]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. I can't.
- [40:15]
Shannon Sharpe
I was. I. I was focused. I wanted to show that. And I just remember oo. I caught that tip. Trent threw a pass in the flat. And I already knew. Jamal, big M, man. His hands. His hand was suspect. I already knew that. And it was windy, so the ball, like, first of all, it could be a nice. No breeze, 75 degrees. Jamal was going to struggle catching the football. I knew that. So you know what, Ocho? I started making my way. That just. I said, you know what? Something told me, just make my way that way. Trent, throw him the ball. The ball go up in the air.
- [40:59]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You right there for it.
- [41:01]
Shannon Sharpe
I catch it. It's right there in front of the Broncos bench. I turned the corner out. The dome gone. That was. That was really the play. That. And we got. We up 7. I think we up at that point. I think we up 14.
- [41:20]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, yeah, that was. That was the dagger, huh?
- [41:24]
Shannon Sharpe
That's over. Not, not, not. Not against that defense. Not unless Trent threw a pick or somebody, you know, we fumble the ball, they got a scoop and score. But as far as driving the football, you ain't.
- [41:35]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You listen, you ain't stringing enough. You ain't stringing together enough drives for that to happen.
- [41:40]
Shannon Sharpe
No, not, not, not, not. You're not going to go 80, 70, 80 yards against that defense. That wasn't going to happen. We knew that once we got that lead. I was like, oh, yeah, hey, just don't turn it over. They ain't get. They. They're not. They're not getting anything against that. But what about when your teammates left Cincinnati and went to another team? Did you not. You never play any of your former teammates?
- [42:02]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Trying to think. The only. The only person I might have played might have been Jonathan Joseph when he was in Houston.
- [42:08]
Shannon Sharpe
I think.
- [42:09]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm. I'm not sure.
- [42:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Did J.J. go to Colorado? Didn't he from. Ain't he from Cuz.
- [42:15]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
No, I think JJ From South Carolina, right?
- [42:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you're right. That is where he went. He went to the game. Yeah, you're right. You're absolutely right. Oo. You're absolutely right.
- [42:25]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I can't remember. I remember Del. Delta o' Neal left. I'm trying to think that Delta.
- [42:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Delta was what, me. Delta was with me.
- [42:32]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
He came from Denver to Cincinnati. Then. Never mind. Yeah, that's. That's the only thing. That's the only person I can remember.
- [42:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Former NFL MVP and Seahawks legend Sean Alexander is expecting his 14 child with his wife, Valerie. Alexander said, we're just starting to tell people, but number 14 is in the belly. We have 10 girls, three boys. My oldest son, the fourth overall, is a sophomore in high school. My oldest son, the fourth overall, is a sophomore in high school. Ocho.
- [43:09]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
What?
- [43:09]
Shannon Sharpe
As a matter of fact, I saw Sean about two years ago. As a matter of fact, a year and a half. Yeah, two years ago. 23. I saw him in April of 23. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let me take that back. I saw him in April of 24, and at that time, I said, man, you know, how you doing, man? He said, man, congratulations. I'm happy for you. I'm proud. He said, man, I'll be a. He said, man, yeah. He said, man, hey, you funny. He said, you bad. You and oo, man, tell oo. I said, what's up? He said, but I love you. I love Club Sh. Shay. I love Nightcap. I said, man, how. How the family do? How you. You got like four or five. He said, sharp. I got 13. I said, you bull driving he said, nah, sharp. He said, I got 13. I said, hey, you. Hey. I said, the same woman. He said, the same woman. We've been together, I think, like college, right, Cuz, you know, essay. That's why I was surprised when B. Rob said, you know, named his running back. And he didn't put Shawn Alexander in that list. I don't know if anybody met him. Alexander the Great, but that's a different story. I was like, 13. I say, I said, sean, for real. I said, oh, I had to. Hey. I still didn't talk to him for a minute. I say, Sean, 13. He said, I got 13 sharp. I say, lord have mercy. I say, it don't seem like you do much other than be 13. I mean, if it was 1950s and 60s, people had a big bunch of kids because that was free labor. They put them kids ass to work. My grandfather had. Had nine and you know, the oldest, my mom was the oldest girls, so what she did, my grandmother would go to the fields, would go help my grandfather do what he needed to do. And when as the boys got older, they were joining. So that's what the girls did. The girls, you know, she cooked and what my grandmother went to, you know, hey, it wasn't like it. It was not. No six weeks. My grandma dropped that baby a week later. A couple of days later, she in the field with my, my. My granddad with papa. So. And I was like, I was in. I was, I was like, I still. I. I just couldn't. I couldn't believe it. 13, 4. So about to be 14. Lord's will. 14, Ocho.
- [45:36]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah. I mean, it depended, you know, also when you hear stuff like that, it depends on who you asking you depend on. It depends on what they like. Some people love, Love big families. Some people, Some people like that. For one. I'm. Listen, I'm. I'm at eight. I'm at eight. But all my, all mine are grown, except. Except two.
- [45:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, you at eight, you need six more. Let that sink in. What you said. Think about what you said. You said, oh, I'm at eight, you need five more with another one on the way.
- [46:10]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, you, you having more? You're done?
- [46:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Who?
- [46:14]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm just, I'm just asking.
- [46:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Plumbing out of work.
- [46:19]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I got you, I got you pipes, clothes. I'm thinking, I'm thinking, I'm thinking.
- [46:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, go ahead. You go right ahead.
- [46:24]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm just saying.
- [46:27]
Shannon Sharpe
Do you know how many years that's being pregnant? So let's just say for the sake. Nine months times 14. How many years is that?
- [46:35]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm not good at math. Huh.
- [46:38]
Shannon Sharpe
She got 14. That's gotta be at least 12, 13 years of being pregnant.
- [46:43]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That's crazy. Boy, that's crazy.
- [46:47]
Shannon Sharpe
I wouldn't hold the oldest. Cause the fourth oldest is a boy, and he's a sophomore in high school, so they got three older than him. So that means all of them. All of them ain't in college. So that means one of the girls. At least one of the girls, probably a junior or senior now. He might have two in college, but. You know, they say you got them doorstep signs on your.
- [47:17]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Ooh. I think. I think. I think if I was. If I was. If I was to have kids again, I would want twins and they'd be done.
- [47:31]
Shannon Sharpe
No, I'm good. You sure? I am for sure.
- [47:34]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
All right. All right.
- [47:39]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm pretty sure.
- [47:39]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You never know. You never know, but it's neat.
- [47:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Listen, man, why you try to. Why you always try to wish something?
- [47:48]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm not trying to wish. I know. I'm just saying, you never know. Something like that could change. Change. Change your life or change your vision. And some of the things like. Oh, I'm just being honest. I love kids, you know? You know, I am. You know I am. And I ain't do things.
- [48:01]
Shannon Sharpe
I love other people. Kids.
- [48:03]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Well, I love kids. That's mine. I love mine. You know, And. And. And I. I think maybe maybe another two, three years. I have twins. I just want to make sure my affairs are in order. I. I need to talk to the rest of my tribe and make sure the tribe is okay with it. And then if the tribe is okay with it, about. Boom. Y' all mad?
- [48:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Ocho, can you imagine what that grocery bill is?
- [48:29]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And any that bad, 8 to 14. Ain't really no different.
- [48:34]
Shannon Sharpe
What you mean? It ain't that different. Ocho, they don't live with you. Imagine if every last kid with you. Can you imagine what your grocery bill would be?
- [48:43]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, when they. When they all hit the same time during the summer. Yeah, I know.
- [48:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes. So imagine here at the same time every day. You know how much money you spend when they're there? Just for a couple of days or a week at a time. So imagine365.
- [48:58]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, that ain't bad. Ain't nothing.
- [49:02]
Shannon Sharpe
It is something. I mean, hey, but that's a rent payment a week.
- [49:06]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Well, you got. You got that fetty. You know that ain't nothing for you.
- [49:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Look, I know how much my kids. I can just imagine 14. Well, let's just say for the sake of argument. 12. 12 kids, man. She going to. They going to Costco every three days.
- [49:31]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Every three days.
- [49:32]
Shannon Sharpe
They going through water. Yes, boy, they going through water. Juice, chips, what you.
- [49:39]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Boy, you gotta cook, you know? You know. You know what? Even make it easier, though, with all my kids here is the older ones don't. Don't eat nothing here. And they take the little ones to go. They take the little ones with them to go eat.
- [49:51]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't. I don't. I don't think Sean doing that. I don't think Sean.
- [49:55]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I don't think they eat. Not only 27, and then. And then after that, the next is 20, 24, and then under that, the next is 22. So all mine, they grown. Grown.
- [50:06]
Shannon Sharpe
But I said, imagine if all eight lived with you every day. He got at least 12 living with him every day.
- [50:17]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah.
- [50:18]
Shannon Sharpe
And you talking about.
- [50:19]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
The funny thing about it is, even if I wanted him to live with me, man. Man, Daddy, please. You don't got no food in here.
- [50:29]
Shannon Sharpe
Water bill. All they're doing is taking showers.
- [50:31]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, boy, if you see my refrigerator right now, you'll laugh.
- [50:36]
Shannon Sharpe
You laugh. They going through the A like it might take me. They going through a tube of toothpaste a day. Just think about it. They brush their teeth if. If 16 people brush their teeth twice a day, let alone let somebody be obsessive ocd.
- [50:58]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
When I. When I think about it, right, And I'm thinking about it right now, when I have all the kids. I have the kids during the summer when obviously when it's summer break, when everybody obviously home from college and have everybody at the same time. And I'm trying to think of what the numbers would be, but the fact that they always leave me by myself during the summer and go eat with each other out. I. I don't know what it's like and how much the bill would be. That. That. That's funny. So I'm trying. I'm trying to wrap my head around. I wonder what it would really be, how much. Because once. Once I got everybody all together, we going out of town, we clean it.
- [51:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. And so you know what that cost. Exactly. So imagine taking 14 on vacation. Hey, you take it. You're taking eight. Imagine taking 14 plus two. That's 16.
- [51:45]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You got. You got to think if you think about the past, right? So that's. That's.
- [51:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it's.
- [51:50]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
It's for. It's 12. So.
- [51:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, man, they gotta drive. They gotta drive. Ain't no way they fly. Hey, they gotta drive. They gotta drive a school bus like the. The Partridge Family used to drive around. Hey, y' all remember Partridge Family with. With the. Had the racks on top A know. Do you know how to play? Even if you got coach tickets, can you imagine taking 16 people on a flight?
- [52:20]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I know, cuz I. I do it every offseason. I do it every all season when we done, every summer. I know what it is. Jamaica, Mexico. But we done been everywhere.
- [52:32]
Shannon Sharpe
And they probably not. And Sean. Sean about your age? Sean came in in 2001. Cause he's in the draft with Jamal. So y' all about to say 46, 47.
- [52:45]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Damn.
- [52:46]
Shannon Sharpe
So 24. Oh, her life. I mean, half her life she been pregnant, basically.
- [52:57]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Basically.
- [52:58]
Shannon Sharpe
So from her. From her 20s, from her early 20s to 40, she don't know. She probably don't know what it's like to go two years without being pregnant.
- [53:08]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Oh, man, that's funny.
- [53:10]
Shannon Sharpe
But hopefully she. Hopefully she delivers. Healthy baby, number 14. Knowing him, he's very religious. All time good dude. As a matter of fact, I just hit him. I sent him a text earlier today. He's like, man. And I told him, I said, man, I want you to come on. He said, you know what? He said, I would love to. He say, hit me. Hit me at halftime. He said, I'll text you at the half. You know, that's my Hawks player tonight. If I shut it down, we could do it next week. Bet. I said, I text him, I know your ass sleep. He read it, he didn't respond. Yeah. So hopefully we get him on. We get him on next week, man.
- [53:58]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I like it. I like it, though.
- [54:00]
Shannon Sharpe
That's a lot of kids, man. That's a lot of kids. He'd have been perfect back in the 40s, 50s and 60s when people had big fans.
- [54:08]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I.
- [54:09]
Shannon Sharpe
My first cousin, his granddad on his mom's side had 26.
- [54:15]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
God damn.
- [54:16]
Shannon Sharpe
From two women. He had 20 from one, had six from another 26. 46.
- [54:25]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, it was different back then, though, huh?
- [54:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I mean, the oldest back then was like from like 60. Like 60. And then the youngest was like 2 years old.
- [54:38]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Damn. Oh, them some wild times, bro.
- [54:43]
Shannon Sharpe
He was still having. He was still. I think, I think he was probably still having kids, like in his 80s.
- [54:51]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Old, young fellow, bruh.
- [54:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he had. He had 26. 20 from one, 20 from Miss Utah, and six from another lady.
- [55:04]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Listen, I'm good. I stopped. I stopped that eight for a reason. If anything, maybe two, three years. I, you know, if everything, if everything continues to go well, the Way it is, you know, in life and, and with work, I, I, I, I, I do twins and call it a day.
- [55:23]
Shannon Sharpe
I ain't doing no. My grandfather, my grandfather said, boy, the worst thing to be is child poor. They ain't like when you was growing up, O Joe. Kids cost now. Private school.
- [55:35]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hold on now. I got enough. I got enough to know what it costs. It ain't, it ain't, it ain't. It's what you choose to buy. I don't care how much cost. It's always a loophole.
- [55:45]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm good, I'm good. Hey, I got grands. Ain't no sense of. Hey. Ain't no sense in my grands being older than my own kids. Grand older than the, the grand older than uncle and aunt.
- [56:00]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, all right. And one thing about it, though, and when I think about it, man, it's a beautiful thing, man.
- [56:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Oh, for sure.
- [56:08]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I don't regret any of my, any of my decisions, man. My kids are beautiful, man. Those I've had kids from is awesome. We on the same page. There's no, no ill will. There's understanding that the kids come first and everything that we do is for them. So that, that's, that's a great thing. I really, I really have issues too. You know, most of the time when you have. We don't do things the traditional way. There's always, you know, riffs and rafts. Yeah, I don't have no problems on. I mean, they're disagreements at times. You know, there's certain times we, we don't, you know, we don't see eye.
- [56:39]
Shannon Sharpe
How much diapers cost? How much diapers?
- [56:42]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I can get diapers from my homeboy in the city. A little bit of nothing. You, you.
- [56:48]
Shannon Sharpe
How much? How much? How much A box of Pampers. Google it right quick.
- [56:52]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I got a dude in Liberty City right now. Give me pampas, formula, anything you need for a little bit of nothing. $45, I get. Hey, I get you that. Say I get you them pampas, the same pamphlet you talk about. I get you 15. I can get you formula. I get you a pack of formula for $5. Right now.
- [57:13]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm gonna have me a farm. I'm gonna give me some goats. They're gonna be drinking goat milk, I'm telling you. Hey, but back in the day, people used to have them cloth diapers. They didn't have no real Pampers. They had cloth diapers that, you know, you wash. Yeah.
- [57:25]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
And use them again.
- [57:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Hell yeah. Well, Joe, use them. Hell yeah, man. Please. Yeah. All right, time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.
- [57:39]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
That was dope. I like. I like that. Hey, hey. I hope my voice stay like this like, like for like maybe the rest of the month. I.
- [57:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Daniel Lawson said thank you for the highlights of track and field. Thank you. You know, we want to show our, you know, our track and field athletes, they don't get the credit they deserve. I understand, you know, doing a few track workouts, nothing like what they do professionally, but understanding that the work that they put in and not for a lot of money, not for a lot of attention. And so we want to show those guys. So we're very proud of everybody that went to the. The world championships, the ones that brought back gold medals, silver medal, bronze medal, that ran the relays, the alternates. Thank you for your support. I mean, thank you for your participation and all the hard work and dedication. Because, you know, some. That's the only world track and field championship they're going to go to, and some hopefully I think they got the ultimate games next year. And then 27 is another world championship and then 28 of the Olympics. So. Yep. Thank you guys for making us the. The pod that you want to come to. You want to talk about here track and field or you want to talk see some of the track and field athletes where to check where. Where you come to. True and infamous 73 said Kyler Murray now being 8 and 22 against the NFC West. That's crazy. It is. And it's gonna hard. It's gonna be hard for you to win that division with that kind of record. Ocho. It is gonna be hard. His offensive line, Kyler Murray, look, some of the sacks are on him, but not all of them. I mean, he seemed like he gets sacked damn near like four or five times a game. He got sacked six times tonight.
- [59:26]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, he's so. He's so small back there. But hey, when he get up out of there. Hey, Kylie, be gone. Hey, look like a little kid. Like a little kid.
- [59:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Will you tell a little kid the Speedy Gonzalez. Come here.
- [59:36]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Bring that man. Brick, come here. And he just like. He take off like a little bad little kid.
- [59:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Rob Live said Marvin Harrison Jr. Does not mesh well with Kyler Murray. He needs a different quarterback to show his real potential. Hate to see his early years go to waste.
- [59:54]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
How they going to waste?
- [59:56]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, Kyler was. He was rookie of the year. He's been to the Pro Bowl. I mean, Kyler throw it to him. I mean, damn, he dropping I mean, that ain't no calor.
- [60:04]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Yeah, he tripping. Whoever said that is tripping. He's getting all the opportunities he's supposed to get. He's playing with a quarterback that's good enough. That is getting him and throwing the ball. High volume balls. He's getting opportunities. You just got to make the most of them. Right now. You ain't got nothing to do with the quarterback.
- [60:20]
Shannon Sharpe
That's it. Money making, taste. Say what up. Can y' all give a birthday shout out to my brothers, the Anthony D. Woods and Damien pumpkin. Wooten. Wooten. I'd appreciate it. We absolutely can. De Anthony D. And Damien pumpkin. I got an aunt who just pumpkin call a pumpkin. Happy birthday, bro. Your brother wanted to wish you guys a happy birthday. Hopefully you did something fun today. Went out with your family, friends and some loved ones. Got an opportunity to sit around and be thankful. Another day around, another year around the sun, man. Somebody didn't get an opportunity to see their birthday. Somebody had an appointment they couldn't reschedule. So every morning that you wake up, that's another day to be thankful. And anything that happens after that, you graciously accept. So happy birthday, de Anthony. Happy birthday, Damien.
- [61:15]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, that's such a gym, too. When you. That gym. That's a gym you use every so often. Some people had an appointment that they couldn't reschedule because I'm using that tomorrow morning. That's gonna be my first. That's gonna be my first tweet.
- [61:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Dr. Frank L. Bellamy said chat. I don't want to hear from y'.
- [61:35]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
All.
- [61:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all say foot or ball. If you haven't voted for my guys for the signal award, get on them, doc. We need to win these awards. That's what. That's what. Ocho, I gotta make sure you know what chat. This is what I'm doing. I'll make you guys a promise. If we win the award, I'm sending Ocho to award as soon as I get it. As soon as I get it. I give y' all my word.
- [62:00]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
But one thing about God. God is good all the time. And I. Hey.
- [62:04]
Shannon Sharpe
All the time.
- [62:05]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I don't know what kind of car y' all driving, but I know who got my will. I know who behind my wheel. Shoot. I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get my gifts.
- [62:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Pat dub said unc, you called it last night. All that coffee Ocho was doing last night. Look at him now. P. S. This is a good week to have prime or playmaker on bad. Pride. Pride Got prime. Got college football. He got color. Get Colorado ready.
- [62:37]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Who they playing? Who they playing?
- [62:41]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know who they play this. Who they play this week? Byu, I think. BYU play byu. Yeah. Good. Absolutely. They good. Triple X Come Saturday, Ocho. Drink some tea and honey. A 48 to 10. 48 to tell you a 48 to 10 scold.
- [63:02]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Hey, that wasn't necessary. I appreciate. I appreciate the advice of what. What to do the cure, but I kind of. I kind of like my voice this deep. I think it's sexy. And I wanted to stay as long as possible. Yeah.
- [63:16]
Shannon Sharpe
Quentin Mobley. No, uncle, you say. Oh, you over there sniffing and coughing now. Now, I told y', all, Ocho got.
- [63:23]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Ain't got nothing to do with that. Anything. Anything going over there with you, that's. That's on you. They ain't got nothing to do with me.
- [63:30]
Shannon Sharpe
My sinus is acting up. She breathy. Famous fix, bro. Speed, Ocho, he only got 92 shots up be 96. Oh, he only got 92 shots up be 96. Whose speed you wanted to fix?
- [63:46]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I don't know who we talking about.
- [63:46]
Shannon Sharpe
What taekwond speed is. Yeah, what's up, Ocho? Can you please call Brian Thomas Jr? Just kidding. But why is he dropping all these guys? I got him from a die hard Jags.
- [64:03]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I got him. I got him. I've been made that call already. We good? Yeah, we tapped in. We good. We good.
- [64:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Tyler Hamilton said, hey, my pops played against you in college. His name was Millard Hamilton. He played for the bills. New York, 91 to 93. I'm from the country in the South Carolina. I gotta go ahead. Look at that. They beat us. We ain't beat the. We didn't beat the Bulls Bills not one time from 91 to 93. So ain't no sense of me holding you. We didn't. Tony SG said, my birthday is Sunday. I'm going to. Going to the Monday night game at Mile High. All I want to do is put 40 on the bills. Imagine. Happy early birthday. But that's what I want, too. Another 48. 10.
- [64:53]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Happy, happy birthday. But that ain't happening. I could tell you that right now.
- [64:59]
Shannon Sharpe
El Mike Banks. January 9th is coming up. Birthday twin. We pulling out 5901. That tootsie. We'll pay him back.
- [65:06]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Matter of fact, a matter of fact, we ain't going to tootsies on the birthday. We gonna go to booby trap. We're gonna go to booby trap. Go in that thing and you Know we're gonna throw them one by one. Slow motion.
- [65:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Dion to go. Say, Ocho out here sounding like Lil Wayne.
- [65:23]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Nah, I'm okay.
- [65:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Go ahead. Bag on hand. Said, I just want to say thank you guys. You weren't just amazing players. You brought entertainment excitement to the game. You were both must see TV. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. JJ said, Ocho, give me some less FC 26. I just. I just started watching soccer and playing FIFA and fc.
- [65:53]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
You got a long way to go, boy.
- [65:55]
Shannon Sharpe
He wants some. He wants some lessons.
- [65:57]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
I'm 20 years in, man. You gotta. Matter of fact, when you buy the game, it gave you a whole tutorial on how to play.
- [66:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, I guess you don't know how to play then who.
- [66:10]
Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Now it give you a tutorial on how to play when you buy it. So you don't even need no lessons from me. But I'll be here when you need your ass. Whoop.
- [66:20]
Shannon Sharpe
All right, guys, thank you so much for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. And there he is, my partner and co host, Liberty City's own Bingo's ring of fame honoree, the former pro bowler. All probably he's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit the subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support because thanks to you, Nightcap has become the phenomenon that has become. And we want to say thank you again for your support. Please check out Shayball Portier. If you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. If you it is the best tasting premium BSOP cognac on the market. Don't take my word for it. Ask those that have tried it. I promise you you will not be disappointed. Just go order it online and we'll ship it directly to your door. Please Drake responsibly and stay safe. Go follow my media company, Sh Shay Media on all of his platforms and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat. Ocho, we got nominated for two signal awards under the genre best sports podcast and and under the video best video podcast co host team. So make sure you go vote for us. We want to thank our very, very special guest, Tyquan Thornton for joining us tonight. The Seattle Seahawks get a tough division win on the road 23:20 over the Arizona Cardinals to move their record to 3 and 1 and the Cardinals fall to 2 and 2. Seattle wins thanks to a walk off field goal. Myers missed early but he redeemed himself. Kicks a 52 yarder as time expires as they win 23:20. Thank you guys for joining us. I'm Unk Heath Oo. We're off tomorrow night.
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Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
We'll see you Saturday baby.
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Shannon Sharpe
Thanks for joining us guys.
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