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sticking to the AFC North Quinon Judkins says new Brown head coach Todd Monkin has been a refreshing surprise. Oo let's take a listen to what
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different coaches over the past couple years.
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Have you heard from your new head
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coach Todd Monkin yet? Bro, I have and bro, honestly like it's not what I thought it would have been like.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I thought it was going to be
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like more so like cause my past coach bro, he was like really even kill bro, like super quiet. I thought I was going to get that from Coach Monkin but it wasn't that like he was like a real players coach bro. Like you know, like give me a hug like all that bro. So he was just super communicative of what he wanted from the team, what
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his goal is, what his objective is, what he want to come in and
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do and you know he knows exactly what he wants and he has a vision and I think that's what's important as a head coach and especially being
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vocal about it too. I think that's what matters. I respect the crispy perceived as a shot at Stefanski.
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I wouldn't say it's a shot of Stefanski. Everyone has their coaching styles, everyone has their approach and height, how they how they talk to players. Todd Monkin probably is a players coach. Maybe he has a different energy about himself and Suffangsi carries himself in a much different way than Monkin does. And so therefore you will get different reactions when you have a coach that's somewhat mild mannered, someone, someone that's even keel as, as he said, someone who's not, not very, very jubilant about the way about their coaching style. And maybe Todd Monkin is just different. So for him it's refreshing because it's something that he's not used to being that he's just getting into the NFL and that's all he's known so far during his short NFL career, is what he saw from the fanskin. Now you get Todd Monkin, who's completely different. Different approach, a different way of doing things. So to him that is refreshing.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, they're gonna do. Say all the right things till they get your ass in there and then watch how they behave. It's just like when you go to college. Oh, you're great. Oh, your son is unbelievable. Yeah, we're so glad to have.
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Oh, you know, they say your dream.
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Johnson, get your ass over here.
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You just told my grandma you was glad to have me over here. Now you told me get my ass over here. Getting lied and run and all this.
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Hey, listen, hey, coaches, when they first get to a team unc, boy, they like politicians, boy.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah.
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Hey, they like politicians. When college coaches come to visit you at your house, boy, politicians, boy, you get there, boy, they act like they don't even know you. You know, once they get in the building, they good. Everything changed.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, Jose. Like you said, as a politician, they lie to everybody.
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Yeah.
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So they get whatever story they don't told you. They don't told all 100 other guys that same lie.
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It's a nice script too. Nice script. They just changed the name. Yeah.
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And plus, yeah, hey, it's gonna be Evie Kill until y' all don't win no games. And then watch how much hell he raised. Oh, yeah, because right now you're undefeated. You're undefeated right now. Yeah, everybody's saying the right thing. Everybody's excited and I get all of that. But guess what? They're gonna pump them footballs up and they're gonna kick them, kick them off in September.
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Oh, yeah, you're gonna have to play.
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You're gonna have to play the Eagles and defensive tackle Jordan Davis has reached an agreement on a three year, 78 million dollar extension tying him to the Eagles for the next four seasons. The deal includes 65 million guaranteed and makes Davis the highest paid no tackle in the NFL. The number 13 pick in 2022. Davis was entering his fifth year option season worth nearly $13 million. I've been very impressed with this young man. Yeah, he was phenomenal at his combine day. He was a phenomenal player at uga. But to see what he's done to his body, the way he's taking it serious, the way he's gotten himself in shape and the way he plays hard. Because at first no show. They just played him on. He's just a two down player. Yeah, he's just a two down player. Now he's turned himself in, he's gotten his body right and he's turned himself into a hell of a football player. And he should have went to the damn Pro Bowl. Yeah, I forget who they took over him, but he should have went to the damn Pro Bowl. Cause he had a hell of a season to be told. He outplayed his car. He outplayed his teammate. Yeah, he was better than Carter this year, Ocho.
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Yeah, this year. Yeah, he was, he was this, this, this. Also brother Lori and, and Howie have done a great job over the years of striking while it's hot and early. Yeah, striking while it's hot and early. But it also leads me to believe are you really going to pay duty? 2d tackles. Then you have Cooper John, then you have desean. I mean Keon Mitchell.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
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Also coming up. So I'm, I'm curious what's going to happen with that and with it being Jalen Carter, as good as he is, wouldn't he have to supersede that contract of.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Or am I tripping based on, based on what he's done?
Co-host/Ocho
Yes.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. If I'm not mistaken, I think he's a two time Pro bowl player. An all pro. Yes. Yeah, he'll probably get, he go get double what he got.
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Yeah. So, so have you ever seen a scenario where both D tackles are paid?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, I haven't.
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So that, that's, that's, that's, that's what I was, that's what I was thinking.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean you see Dallas got a bunch of D tackles that's making 20 plus million dollars a year. They got what, three of them?
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Yeah, they got Quinny and Kenny Clark
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or Diggy Zooa and they got Clean Clark.
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Yeah.
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So no, I don't see a scenario.
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Lord have mercy. I hate that we have to talk about stuff like this, Ocho, but here we go. What happened? Clarissa Shields believes she beat Rolly Romero in a fight. Let's take a listen to what she told Justin.
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Boy, is there a male champion regardless of weight that you believe you can I beat Rollie?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He's a world champion. Rollie Ramirez.
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Listen, it's not about. I think Rollie is very unorthodox. He's very strong, right? But I'm way taller than him, way longer than him and got better boxing skills. So.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How about one of his punches though?
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Did you not hear what I said?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's hard for somebody smaller to hurt somebody that's bigger.
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I walk around at 185.
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He fights at 140.
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Or is it 47? It's 100 and he said 140. 147.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But I'm just saying though, like when you.
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And then like with his skill set, he can't be. Oh, what you think? Huh?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No. Ocho It's a man. It is a man. Women. Stop this. Clarissa, we love you. We. I. I've sat down and interviewed you. We've had you on the show. Stop this nonsense. There is not a woman that when it comes to physical ufc, right, boxing, whatever, if it's. If it's physicality involved, a woman is not beating a man. That's why they have women's sport. That's why they have men's sport, right? Can we stop this? Come on now. I love Clarissa. Do not beat no man.
Co-host/Ocho
You know. You know what I do like, you know, it's that confidence she has. Being as brash as he is, making a statement like that is why she's one of the best, which is why she's the greatest of all time. Just. Just a thought.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Even you can do that and still not be Ocho even.
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No, I'm just saying. I'm not saying she could win. I'm just saying the fact that she even thinks she can is one of the reasons why she is great as she is. I don't feel he can beat me.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Why?
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Because he's unorthodox.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Why?
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Because I see the flaws in his fighting style. So I think if I do A, B and C, I can win that fight. In hindsight, reality for us, knowing you're not being no man, you're not.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, she won't see the punch you talking, but see you talking about another you looking at it like 140 pound woman hitting you. That's 140 pound man hitting you, which is equivalent of a 200 plus pound woman hitting you.
Co-host/Ocho
Right?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And the way he can put punches together.
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Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Goodness, no. And I don't want to see it. No, no, no. I love Clarissa Shields. And so I, I. Look, I'm not no hater, but I just know physics. And there's a reason if that was the case, Ocho. What? What sport that's physically involved that they allow women and men to compete together? None. There's a reason why. There's a reason why they every and everybody's up in arms and rightfully so when we get these trans a man that says, okay, I'm a woman now, or tucking hormones. No.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You can't. It's not possible. It is not possible.
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Yeah. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, my goodness. I guess Asia Wilson gonna say, well, you know what? In a one on one, I can. I can beat Shay or I can beat Luca.
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I could be bam.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Co-host/Ocho
Hey. And the funny thing about it is, boy, Rollie could crack. Boy. Yes. But Rolly can crack. Rollie catch you with one of. One of them punches, man. Man, it's gonna be the.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's just. It's just physically impossible, right? It's just physically impossible.
Co-host/Ocho
But think about it, though. Think about the mindset. Just the fact that you even think you can in general, just that. That she has is why she's great at what she does against her opponents in general.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Do you believe 85 to 90% of the people believe they can be a tiger, a lion, a bear, a silverback in a fight? That's the. But you say you like mindset. They say they can beat those animals in a fight. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you have. You have casual people say, what. What sport do you believe you can win a gold medal in? Do you actually got people that sit on their damn couch, eat popcorn, and watch the Olympics think they can win an Olympic gold medal in a particular sport? Right. I have a positive mindset, but I'm not delusional. There's a fine line between confidence and delusion. That in and of itself, is a damn skill.
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Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, my. Hey, hey, hey.
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You. You say you. You think. You think she worse than me?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What?
Co-host/Ocho
But thinking, yeah, I think I could be. I could be everybody. I could do anything. I could be. I could be Joe.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Oh, it's not impossible. First of all, there's not a woman that's gonna get into the ring and box a man
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sparring. What about sparring?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Sparring. You got on headgear, you got on big gloves. Ain't nobody trying to hurt nobody, Right? The same thing. Pretty soon, y' all gonna say, you know what? Amanda Nunes can beat somebody in ufc. Y' all say the most ridiculous thing just to say it, but if you realize how ridiculous you sound, what woman you know gonna get that is a man. A man. The first thing y' all say, man, you ain't got no business hitting a woman. Is you getting a physical competition. Oo you in the ring. I just. It's just. You know what? Oo. I feel the same way when they keep talking about, man, this college team could be the NFL team. NFL team. Or score 100 points.
Co-host/Ocho
And you know what? You know, a team, they always say. They always say, Alabama. When Alabama was really good, when Nick Saban was there, they would be the Cleveland Browns and the Browns to put up 100 points on them boys. You take Alabama's best team against the worst NFL team, man, they gonna get slaughtered.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Like, I mean. I mean, first of all, I only, like, like, when you just say stuff. Think about it. Oo.
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Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
When they play golf, the women don't hit from the tips. Why? There's a reason why, right? Women are great. There have been some great women athletes. Basketball, soccer, softball. But there's levels and a man. There's a reason why. There's a reason why we separated. That's why we have, you know, volleyball for men, volleyball for women, soccer for men, soccer for women, softball for women, baseball for men. That's why.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. You know, you know what I think, too?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What is.
Co-host/Ocho
I think, in a sense, regardless of what sport you play, to be great for one, you got to believe. You gotta. You gotta believe in yourself. You got to believe in your craft, you got to believe in your skill. You got to believe in the work you put in. And I think you got to be a little delusional a little bit.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think I'll give you a prime example.
Co-host/Ocho
Being delusional a little bit is a part of what makes you great at what you do. Even. You can't do it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Even when she was at her best, they said, serena, you think you could be the man? Serena flat out, no, no, not. Not a 200. The. The greatest. The greatest woman tennis player ever. No, she said, I'm not beating the 200th ranked man. First of all, you better hope. You better hope you can get a Serbian. That's what you hope, right? But I don't know. I don't know what. Clarissa, just keep fighting women keep getting those big check paychecks, beating hell out of women. That's your claim to fame. Don't you like some. Don't let somebody gas you up to say, I can beat a man. Well, first of all, they're not gonna sanction it.
Co-host/Ocho
You know, they go, you know, they gonna spar now, you know, you know they're gonna spar. They're gonna spar. They're gonna get. They're gonna get in the ring, I guarantee you.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, she's far. And that's the Ocho, her sparring. Yeah, yeah, but Ocho, they not really trying. Ocho, right? Come on, that's like you. You playing your girl. You playing Cambodia basketball. You laughing. You ain't really trying. LeBron playing Savannah. LeBron playing Savannah in basketball.
Co-host/Ocho
Hey, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, but I. I'm just trying to figure out, you know what Ocho, you think if when they asked that question, she's like, nah, she's like, I fight women. I can't beat no man. A man champion.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
She ain't even Said an amateur.
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Yeah,
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that's level. You look at. You look at women and women. Like I said, the fastest track and field woman high school guys run that time.
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Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, wait.
Co-host/Ocho
Speaking of times, man, you see the young 16 year old running 9 8, I saw that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He got a hurricane behind him, but okay. He still was scooting though, but don't show. I mean, these kids, they kidn getting fast. I mean, you know kids, these kids now, I mean, hell, if you don't run, if you probably. If you go to Texas, if you don't run 10:3 in Texas, you getting. If you don't run 10:3, you not win first place. You got to be sub 10:3.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah. That's crazy.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
This kid running 10 flat, 999. That's crazy.
Co-host/Ocho
Hey, ain't flying. But you know how fast 9, 8 is.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I do know how fast 980.
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How your body even developed that much with that kind of torque and that kind of power to be able to sustain that 400 meters at that young age. Your body not even fully developed.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Somebody talking about, oh, she's the Olympic champ and she got weight on him. You could tell people that they don't, don't really understand, like fighting Ocho.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah, do.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, y'. All. I tell you what, if y' all get an opportunity, I wish I could just don't watch it on tv because tv, like when you watch stuff on tv, it don't do it justice.
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And if you're there, go see it in person.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Matter of fact, in person. Like when you go to a UFC fight, Ocho, and you hear those cracks.
Co-host/Ocho
Cracks? Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Are you somebody? Like when that guy. When that the brother get Johnson got hit and you. And you hear that shot, or when Regan came with an overhand and you hear that shot, or you go to it and you see a guy, how they put punches together.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Then you're like, you know what?
Co-host/Ocho
I don't. I don't think people understand. They don't what Rolly in general, if he catch her. Rolly can punch. That's the one thing that he can do. He can crack.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He can.
Co-host/Ocho
Whether it's unorthodox or not, whether you don't like his style, but it looks awkward, whatever it may be, that young bull can punch. And people will never understand it until you see it in person. Because when you watch it from tv, you're like, well, what the hell is this? Oh, I could beat him.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'd be like, how about, how about this? Ojo. Clarissa sparred a Guy that Rolly ko'd, but he knocked Clarissa down with a check hook, so the guy that put Clarissa down is fine.
Co-host/Ocho
I. I think I saw that. I saw that clip. I ran a clip. Yeah, She said she would be. Monk.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Don't matter. Do y' all understand that they, the people hands are lethal weapons?
Co-host/Ocho
Well, oh, you know, once you register that, that's. That's. That's a felony. You touch somebody outside, yes, going to jail.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But y' all don't realize. Y' all don't realize how fast. Like those punches. Y' all see the. Recall that man the punch. Clarissa going to keep making that money fighting women fight. Bum Gardner, maybe. Hell, I don't know. Maybe Layla Ali. Layla, yeah.
Co-host/Ocho
Bum Gardner Too small. There's no way.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I know.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, Carissa, what she walk around at? 185, I think she got down to. What? What'd she get down to? This fight. 1-6-155-165.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah. Bum gone away at 135, I think.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. She ain't going down that low.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah, that's impossible.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
From 185 to 135.
Co-host/Ocho
That's not even possible, huh?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's possible. I don't know. What. She gonna look bad to take that kind of weight off.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah, that's. That's hard.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hell, yeah.
Co-host/Ocho
Well, you won't have no damn strength to fight.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nope. Zero. No. I don't believe it. But like I said, the mere fact that people think they could beat a bear, a lion, a tiger, a silver back in a fight, people actually say that. I believe I can beat them, but. Or I can win a gold medal in table tennis. Or I can win a gold medal
Co-host/Ocho
in this table tennis. Hello. Remember the discourse. Remember the discourse about the 100 people in one gorilla.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. You got to get a hundred people. You got to give somebody that doesn't care about their life because he gonna run through the first five or six.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Somebody died after you. After. After you see him bite somebody. Arm completely off or break some. After you see that.
Co-host/Ocho
I don't want nobody.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I give a prime example. You see, Ocho, when people. It'd be about five or six guys, and they gonna jump this one guy.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And he. He KO's one of them. What do the rest of them do?
Co-host/Ocho
Caution to the wind.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So he grabbed that first one. Then he go, you gonna see the man. He gonna see literally rip his arm off his body.
Co-host/Ocho
Easy. With ease.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Because that's. That's what they do. I mean, you got to realize they have the. They have the 10 times the strength of an average man.
Co-host/Ocho
Yep.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So. So whatever the strength of an average man is. So just think about it. If an average man can be his 225 and he. He bitching £2,000 on you. That joker, think about it now. He ain't for sick. He's sick. Six and a half. 400. 450. All muscle.
Co-host/Ocho
All muscle.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ain't got an ounce of fat on him.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah, don't nobody want none of that, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man, y' all see them joke how they be throwing you? You see how they be hitting each other? And that's another 400. 450 gorilla. So what you think a 200 pound man gonna stand up to that?
Co-host/Ocho
And you saw you. I know you saw the clip. The whole world saw that clip. With a lady. She watching. She filming it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They're in the zoo fight. Talking about somebody getting there. Break it up.
Co-host/Ocho
You can see the power. You can see the power in the video. And this lady talk about somebody getting in there and stop them. What?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Who? They'll figure it out. Whoever getting his ass kicked better take off running. Cause I, you know, they got zookeepers. They got zoopy zookeepers in there. But they ain't getting there breaking that up.
Co-host/Ocho
Absolutely not.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Just like a polar bear or grizzly. They get the fighting. Oh well, they'll figure it out. Yeah.
Co-host/Ocho
It's a rap, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's a rap man. Please, Clarissa, don't you let them people fool you up to think you can be the man. We're getting closer to seeing Logan, Paul and Le'Veon Bell. Ocho. Yeah. My million dollar open bet to fight an NFL player has caused an uproar. Here's an update. Nobody is willing to put a million dollars in escrow and be flown here to Puerto Rico. All expense paid in box with three professional judges. They all want to formalize with a streamer venue press conference. All that get paid but not risk their own money. But I don't have time nor interest in that. I want to. I won't step away from WWE to coordinate and train for an event. But if any player wants to actually put up a million dollars in fight at my jail with official referees and judges, show yourselves. That includes you, Le'Veon Bell. And. Hey,
Co-host/Ocho
I like that. What you think it's gonna happen?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, leave you out. I might be able to get. I. I come up with a quarter meal, but I want 500 in return.
Co-host/Ocho
God damn. Are you.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you like Don, Tell me the person that gamble that puts up 250 and they expect 250 back in return.
Co-host/Ocho
Hold on.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What?
Co-host/Ocho
What happened? Dad? You are you Don King boy? Hey you are you Don King with it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Leviathan said this is what labels bro wants to spar and that's fine bro. We can spar if that's what you want to do. Let's practice and for sure support for
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
a million dollar bet but we run rounds until a person then quits. No need for your judges. Cameras on for sure. No need to hide from the public. Just want to see this. Logan responded. Ten eyes, glove, no headgear. Three minute rounds until someone quit. Next weekend, one million dollar bet, money and escrow. No judges. You choose the referees down for boxing or mma, just let me know. Deal. We have a contract drawn up and sent.
Co-host/Ocho
I like it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nah, we want to see this.
Co-host/Ocho
So. But they don't want no cameras, huh?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't know. But my, my problem. I think Logan Paul's a phenomenal athlete. I think wrestling and stuff and what he and his brother has been able to do in the YouTube space and to be able to create content and made themselves wealthy beyond expectation. But you don't get credit for fighting Somebody that doesn't fight. I mean, how much do you weigh? 175, 180. Go fight, Benavidez. Go fight. Better be up.
Co-host/Ocho
Come on.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But you're not no fighter, Ocho. I don't get Ocho. I don't get credit in my prime for catching on a guy that doesn't play db Right, right. What credit does I get for that? So if you say you're a fighter or you want to fight, you need to fight somebody that fight.
Co-host/Ocho
You know, Le'Veon has a. A background in boxing, so that. Yes, that would be. That would be a decent fight for both of them. You know, I agree. Both are skilled. Both are taking. Taking the craft of. Of getting his serious. Yeah. Taking it serious. But the.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The.
Co-host/Ocho
The better beat. Better damn.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Better be up.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah. Oh, man, they.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They.
Co-host/Ocho
He'd kill them.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What. What NFL player making 10, 15, 20 million dollars? They're not boxing in their spare time like that.
Co-host/Ocho
No.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And it's too much for them to risk.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah, they would. And you know, honestly, no matter who it is, is what, 1500 players in the NFL. Yeah, they probably. I doubt they make it past two minutes, round one.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Co-host/Ocho
I doubt. I don't care how. I don't care how.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They don't know how to breathe. They were getting there and try to bounce because they see everybody else bouncing back and forth, and all you do is burning energy.
Co-host/Ocho
It's completely different. Completely different. And you don't. You don't train for that
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
fight, bud.
Co-host/Ocho
Not. No.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You don't want to see him fight, bud.
Co-host/Ocho
No, that's not fair. That's unfair.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think. I think he thought that, you know, because of what he did with Floyd. I don't know how serious Floyd took it or anything like that, but, I mean, hey, I watch it. I watch Le'Veon and Logan Paul fight.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah, I like it. I like it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So. I don't know, but I. I think the thing is he got hurt because Tom Brady called it.
Co-host/Ocho
Called him? Talking about his name?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, he said he was cute. He said, you know, you do this cute. Because he said he wwe, he was a outstanding athlete. Things of that nature.
Co-host/Ocho
Right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you know, Tom, man, look, sometimes Tom. Forget that he. Tom Brady, he gave you the artist truth.
Co-host/Ocho
The truth coming from him is Sting a little bit now.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, for sure. Because he's like, oh, that's cute. He said. But you're not. No, you're not. No, not. No. Not an athlete. But I think, you know, in the wwe, I mean, you watch him, the way he moves.
Co-host/Ocho
Oh, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, he could easily be a full time wwe. Absolutely. He absolutely could. He's phenomenal in there. And like I said, he and his brothers carved out a nice niche. And they. They. Look, Are you talking about next weekend? I don't know. Hey, hey, hey, L. Bell, let us know. You're gonna make this happen, man. Call in a nightcap. We want to see what's real, what's. What's cracker lacking and see what's going on. Hell, me and Ocho might come down there. We might come down there and do nightcap. Live from Puerto Rico.
Co-host/Ocho
Puerto Rico.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Co-host/Ocho
Okay, I like that. That's. That's a short flight for me, huh? That's about what. How long the flight from.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't know what port? Port. I don't know how close it is to Miami.
Co-host/Ocho
Chad, how far is the flight from.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Who you think I am.
Co-host/Ocho
That might be right there. Chad, how long is the flight from Miami to Puerto Rico?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What they say two hours.
Co-host/Ocho
I'm still chat. Moving slow.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's definitely closer to you.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah, yeah, it might get. It's definitely. Yeah,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hold on.
Co-host/Ocho
Oh, it's only one hour. Oh, 45 minutes. Oh, yeah. It's only an hour.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Flights to Puerto Rico, San Juan to Miami takes approximately 2 hours and 42 minutes to 3 hours, covering a distance of 1050 miles. Budget carriers like Frontier and Spirit Airlines offer direct flights with fares starting between 60 and 150.
Co-host/Ocho
See that? See Spirit? You see? You see why Spirit is the greatest airline is. You see that? Spirit take you right there. Puerto rico, less than 150. Come on, man. That's what I'm talking about. Whole nightcap team on Spirit.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nah, I won't be on Spirit. I think Delta. Let me see if Delta go to Puerto Rico.
Co-host/Ocho
Why would you go on Delta? And you just heard the good deals that Spirit has.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
My life ain't about no good deals.
Co-host/Ocho
Spirit is the only airlines that never had any issues. Now, we might have a. We might have a fight or two.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, see, on the road, as a matter of fact, they go right there. Yep. Delta fly directly to Puerto Rico. Mm. They got cheap flights, too.
Co-host/Ocho
How much?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Delta alliance operates numerous flights to San Juan, Puerto Rico, Atlanta, Boston, Detroit, jfk, Minneapolis. So I would probably have to fly from Vegas to Atlanta. Atlanta to Puerto Rico.
Co-host/Ocho
Sound like a lot to me. It's gonna be more than $150.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I got some miles. I use my mileage. Nah, you ain't got no miles. Old Spirit.
Co-host/Ocho
Oh, I got I got miles, I got, I got.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They probably write your miles down on a piece of paper on a poster note handed to you. Now they got 550 miles.
Co-host/Ocho
I got about. On spirit. I probably got maybe, maybe 762, 000 miles. I gotta like. Let me check my email. I got about. Should I should. I should be close to about it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What you fly? Mainly American Delta.
Co-host/Ocho
Well if, if it's me, like for me going somewhere, I'm on spirit now. Work like having to come here. It's American or United, but that's, that's not me buying now. You know, if I'm flying out for work, you know, work, they purchase, you know, what they see fit, that's going to get me in on time.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I'm gonna have to use my mileage. I don't know where I can go to use them though.
Co-host/Ocho
Puerto Rico.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You ain't using no damn miles to go to Puerto Rico. I would go, I would go somewhere. I'm going out of the country.
Co-host/Ocho
Okay, okay.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm gonna see. Type in where
Co-host/Ocho
add chat gbt. Where should I go?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Where can I go with one?
Co-host/Ocho
What mean you? What sky miles?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, shoot.
Co-host/Ocho
You might want to. We can go to the doctor. We can go to Mexico.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
With 1 million frequent flies miles, you can book a multiple around the world trips, first class, 10 to 12 hour flight return. You can go. I could go to Tokyo, London in luxury.
Co-host/Ocho
Nah, I'm telling you, two blessed places for you to go. Either we go to Mexico.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ain't gonna damn Mexico. Use my airline miles for no damn Mexico the hell.
Co-host/Ocho
All right, what about we go to Haiti? What you never been. Hey, you never been to Haiti? Well, Haiti.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I ain't never been to Haiti.
Co-host/Ocho
It's beautiful out there, huh?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You frequent five miles to go to Haiti?
Co-host/Ocho
Yes. You got. You want to go place you've never been before. All that exotic stuff.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
There are a lot of places I ain't never been before.
Co-host/Ocho
You've been to Mexico?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Co-host/Ocho
No you haven't. I have.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We played a game in Mexico.
Co-host/Ocho
That's not going to Mexico. That's for work. I'm talking about like, like going.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, I want to say you've been a lot of places.
Co-host/Ocho
Come with me to Mexico. No, like we, we good. I want to take you to warehouse.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Not good.
Co-host/Ocho
I want to take you to Sinaloa.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, I only go nowhere.
Co-host/Ocho
Guadalajara.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nope. I don't need to go nutty either. I'm gonna fly Qantas. I'm going, I'm gonna fly. I'm gonna fly United Emirates, Qantas and Singapore Air.
Co-host/Ocho
Where you going?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Somewhere where I can fly those.
Co-host/Ocho
Nah, that sounds like it's too far for me.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I can do something. I can do some things. Nah, nah. But hey, I would definitely. I would definitely watch Le'Veon and Logan Paul fight. I would.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's for sure.
Co-host/Ocho
Absolutely.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But I think the one guy. Didn't. Some guys. Some guys say he'd come down there and fight him.
Co-host/Ocho
Oh, yeah, the lineman. I forgot who was.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You saw that too?
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah. Whoever it is, they not Dion Dawkins. It was someone else. I can't. I can't remember his name, but he.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He.
Co-host/Ocho
I saw him on the mitts. I saw him on the mitts.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He good. He good on the mitts.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, Dion Dawkins was on the mid. That was Dion Dawkins on the miss.
Co-host/Ocho
It was. It was another player too, I think,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
but it's this player here. I think he retired.
Co-host/Ocho
You think?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, he said he. He beat hell out Logan and his brother. No, I ain't going. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not going. I'm not going any place that's. That's close. Dubai. You know, we got a whole off on Dubai.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
As a matter of fact, somebody was flying to Dubai. I heard they had to turn the plane around. Said nah.
Co-host/Ocho
Real. Yeah, Dude, I wouldn't be flying in that airspace right now anyway.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hell no.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah. Listen, I told you the best place to go.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho. Ain't no who chat. Does anybody use frequent fly miles to go to Puerto Rico, to go to Mexico, to go to Haiti?
Co-host/Ocho
Listen.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, you use buddy passes.
Co-host/Ocho
Nah, listen, I'm. I'm trying to get you to have the time of your life where you don't have to go that far. You right there.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Everybody whole objective. I want to go far.
Co-host/Ocho
I just want you. I just want you to see my country, man. That's all.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Far from the prying eyes. Please add Another chapter to UConn coach Dan Hurley's combative history with officials Just as March madness is approaching. Hurley was ejected from the fourth ranked Huskies 6862 loss to Marquette today after picking up two technical files with one second remaining. Hurley argued that his player was fouled while driving to the basket. With the Huskies trailing 6,462, Hurley approached John Gaffney and gotten his and got chest. He got in his chest next to the official right shoulder. While voicing his displeasure, Hurley said he never bunk Gaffney though some replays suggest otherwise.
Co-host/Ocho
Oo, yo,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
he was probably trying to eat. Looked like he was trying to jockey his team. You know, they have a good run. Maybe get a one or two seed in the NCAA tournament.
Co-host/Ocho
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Frustrated, said it was foul. Guy said, no, he wasn't foul. I didn't see it. So don't start me the line chat. I. I gotta. So Chad, if y' all saw it, jump in the chat and said, yeah, he was foul or no, he wasn't. I mean, but that's, but that's his history. He's, he's very. He, he pick up text. I mean, he, he animated. Yeah. I think he, he from Jersey. And you can tell he got that jersey.
Co-host/Ocho
Is he, Is he bad as Bob Knight or not? Not that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, ain't nobody bad as Bob Knight. Bob Knight was cussing, throwing chairs, punching people, punching coaches, punching his own players. Oh,
Co-host/Ocho
that's funny.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Inter Miami co owner, I guess, Jorge Moss, Lionel Messi is paid between 70 and 80 million dollars a year.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Told Bloomberg that's the reason that I need to have sponsors and for them to be world class is because players are expensive. I pay Messi worth every penny. But 70 to 80 million a year across everything.
Co-host/Ocho
Get a piece of everything, huh? Yeah, everything.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Adidas, apple sales, merch.
Co-host/Ocho
He gets to piece everything. Obviously, we talk about Messi, we talk about the great, arguably the greatest soccer player to ever live ever. And, you know, depending on who you ask, but most people would probably go with Messi and what he's done, not only for any Miami, but helping grow the game down here, you know, in the states. And 70 to 80 million. What Messi has done for the beautiful game down here in the States is not enough. It's not enough. I'm just gonna be honest. He makes a lot, but it's not enough for what he's done for us here in the States and what he's done for Inter Miami. You. You can't repay him for that. You can't. There's. There's no amount of money, you know,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
so I might have took that Saudi money. You see what they're giving Cristiano Roman, Aldo Ronaldo.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure they offer messy. They offered Messi a billion.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I did. They did. I saw that.
Co-host/Ocho
Messy. A billion. And man, listen, man, his wife was like, not happening,
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
baby, stay right here. I'll be right back.
Co-host/Ocho
I'm sure the decision came down, you know, came down to her and like, no, not on. Not on the Back of my back, end of my career. We need to be somewhat nice. So, I mean, this, this was fitting.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All right, we're gonna get you out of here on this one. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Jay 1984.
Co-host/Ocho
Out.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What's good? Sorry for the loss. Duke, complete domination. We're number one, but don't know what's gonna happen in the tournament. Shaking my head. We hurt. Yeah, man, y' all put something on the Tar Heels tonight, man. But the best player was out. Caleb Wilson was out, so I'm not so sure. But, man, man, Cameron Boozer, man.
Co-host/Ocho
God dang, nice, boy. Oh, nice. I, I, I watched, I watched the Duke game tonight.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He might be better than his dad.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know, definitely better than his dad. At the exact same age. Oh, he better than his dad.
Co-host/Ocho
I got a question. This would be a good if you were to ask Carlos Boozer. Can he beat his son one on one? Who do you think? Who do you think will win?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think booze might be a little old now. Knees might not be able to hold. I think booze, booze, booze, booze might be five years too late.
Co-host/Ocho
Right?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But at the exact same age, ain't no question he better than his dad. Gary Peters. Clarissa Shields will be Ocho in the ring.
Co-host/Ocho
Me too, Ocho. I'm too sharp, man. I'm, I'm damn near, I'm damn near like, amateur slash pro. Hey, I'm gonna be Joe Johnson in basketball. Let's focus on that. Let's focus. That's what we need to focus on. Joe gonna get this work, Mark.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
1, 2, 3. 1, 2. I say let her do it. Pain is the best teacher. No, they're not. Nope. No one is gonna even sanction. Gonna even sanction that.
Co-host/Ocho
They won't sanction it, but they will spar. I guarantee that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Savoy 2142. Hey, Unc, you won't spark Clarissa. Nope. Peter Ocho want to go over there and see that Haitian dude, man, that bad that Zo gone that way. He tried to get me to go. He want me to go to Haiti to beat up the guy that man, that man that put all that on the girl.
Co-host/Ocho
Let bygones be bygones, man. Hey, that's funny.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Dr. Frank L. Bellamy. Hey, fam. What's harder, winning a Super bowl or maintaining a long term relationship?
Co-host/Ocho
Well, that's a good one right there.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
A great one.
Co-host/Ocho
That's a good one. Because if you look at the statistics on what it's like to maintain a long term relationship. Hell, a long term marriage as well. Oh, that's very difficult. That's very difficult.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Never been married, I've been in long term relationship. And I'll say this, both require immense sacrifice. Immense.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think the thing is, I think it's harder to win a Super bowl because when you're dealing with a person one on one, you have to sacrifice, they have to sacrifice. But when you talk about a team, you talk about 53 sacrifices. So many different people have to sacrifice. So feet to the metal, I probably say, I'll say Super bowl, but neither is easy.
Co-host/Ocho
Not at all.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Damn. That's a damn good question. And I'm long term relationship because, hey, you grow and sometimes you don't grow together, you grow apart. And the thing is, is that. And see, like I said, in a relationship, Ocho, you need two people to sacrifice.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Quarterback got a sacrifice, Running back gotta sacrifice. Wide receivers gotta sacrifice. And they got so many people that gotta sacrifice.
Co-host/Ocho
It's difficult.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Very. Brandon Crow. Oh, why didn't you bring Ocho tonight? He been wanting to hang out with you. Ocho had a prior engagement.
Co-host/Ocho
Oh, yeah, I. I had to do. I had to officiate a wedding tonight. So therefore I'm gonna let Unc slide on this one, you know, But I
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
asked you did, did you want to go? You said no.
Co-host/Ocho
I did, yeah. If it was boxing, I would have
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
went the Sean underscore show up. If Kobe handed a franchise like LeBron when he came in the league and didn't get hurt, he would have had more points. LBJ never averaged more than 30. Actually, did he average 31? But that's not the here nor there. You see, if he was handed, if he was capable, he would have been handed. One guy was drafted late lottery. The other guy was the first over number one overall pick. One guy came off the bench, the other guy never came off the bench. You can't say if there's a lot of ifs. There will be Brandon Roy, if he doesn't get hurt, how great would he have been? We can't do ifs. We have to do with what we know. No hypotheticals, just what we know. It's okay, guys. You can love Kobe without trying to dump on LeBron. You can love LeBron without trying to dump on Kobe or Jordan. It's okay. It's. Oh. It is fine for you to like a player and says, man, I really like Kobe. Okay, fine. But LeBron is a good player also. LeBron is a great player. Also. It's also okay to say, you know What? I love LeBron. LeBron bad boy. But that Jordan and Kobe, there was nothing to play with either. It's okay to do that. But somehow we've been. If you like one, you got to hate or despise the other or try to create an argument. I don't. Okay, you don't like LeBron. Okay, fine. You like Kobe. Okay? But LeBron's greatness is really to be unquestioned. The longevity in which he's played with and played at that level, to have a prime that lasted two decades, to average 25 points a game for 20 seasons, it's crazy. It's crazy.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But Kobe was great.
Co-host/Ocho
Also,
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Lee Mason. What Oliveira did to Max is what Debo would do to Ocho. No, he would piece him up, too.
Co-host/Ocho
Today I'm gonna stick and move and have Debo frustrated because he can't grab me. That ain't happening.
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Vonte. Vonte Lewis 501. Oh, you listen to. You listen. Okay. Oh. What you listen to when you watch sports? Nothing. Silence. I don't listen to anything. I'm. I'm really. I'm focused. I'm tuned in. When I go to the gym, I don't. I don't have headphones on. I just want to hear my breath. I just want to hear me breathing. I want to hear the weight clanging. I just want. That's. That's what I listen to. But when I'm watching sports, I don't listen to anything. I just like track and field. Now. I want to hear track and field. I want to hear. I want. I love to hear that call. I love to hear them talking and all that stuff. But football, basketball, Silence. Yeah. Nick Mars up. It's about time to garnish Ocho wages all the way. You go to get that 5,900, you might be right, man. Y' all might be right. Gold standard. Michael Jordan is the goat. He's 6 and O in the finals. No game seven play in a physical time in the NBA when LeBron went 4 and 6 in the final. Jordan is a goat. Okay? That's your opinion. You entitle your opinion for you. Jordan is your goat. Some people is Kobe. Some people is Russell, Kareem or Magic. Kobe, J.J. carver. 80. Oh. Oo. Y' all peep the Arnold Classic this year? Andrew Jack. I did see that number one spot. Hottie. Hottie Chupon. Should have gotten number two. It was dope seeing Ronnie up there still pretend to say long live the king. Yes, Andrew look good now. This is the best I've seen. Andrew Jack, look. I thought Nick Walker came in. This is the best I've seen Andrew, Nick Walker look, he brought a more complete package. Looked better. He looked much, much better than he did at the Arnold last year. This was the best package that I've seen. But Andrew Jack, he was, he was, he was full, he was every shape, everything just looked really, really good. I'm anxious to see what Samson doubt what he looks like. He's gotten up to £340. I don't know why he wanted to get that big to strip it all the way down. I just think he over dieted last year and it called him call them to and he flattened out. But he has the best package. When you look at it, look at it from the front and you look at him from the side, you look at it from the back. He's a large man. He has a nice, nice physique. Derek, I know everybody likes Derek but I don't love Derek's physique. I don't think he's not hard, he's not grainy, he just looks like. Got it. Typically walks around at the gym. I see guys who look like Derek lungs for all the time and that's not a knock. Congratulations. He's a two time, he's a two time Olympia and there aren't very many guys that can say that.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
If you're talking about somebody that has followed the sport for an extremely long time and seen the great sort of greats complete compete from. You know, I started following when Lee, Lee Haney was winning the Olympias and the Vince Taylors and Deshaun Rays and the, the Flex Wheelers and obviously in the Ronnie and the Chris Comear, the Dexter Jackson, Jay Cutlers. All of those guys.
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Yeah.
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And you know, Muhammad Bazina. All those yes, yes, yes. All of those guys. All those yes.
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Hey Phil, be in the comments. Phil be watching the show. Heavy boy, huh? Phil Heath, he be in the comments.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Phil from Denver. Yeah, no field. Like I said these. I mean like I said people look and I know a lot of the judges because like I said, I used to go to the shows. I used to go to Olympia, I go to Olympia now but I used to go to the Arnold. I went to the Iron man, went to Iron Man, Chicago Iron Man. I go to the NPCs. I'm sorry, this, this. Today's bodybuilder can't touch the Old school. They don't have that. I. And I don't know, Ocho. I think it's a situation where guys, they use more machines, right? That is that barbell that give you that hard, grainy look because all the auxiliary muscles have to come in play when you just doing a machine, Ocho. The auxiliary muscles don't come into play because it's all. Everything is balanced out. When you look at those old guys, you look at those physiques and you tell me you don't see a difference. The hell you say? Gold standard. MJ was defensive player of the year, which truly makes him the goat. Okay, okay, guys.
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Yeah. Hey, depending on who you are, you know what?
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If he played now, he'd average. You have a 60 point, a 60, 20, triple double. Y' all good? King Entertainment, this is your boy Kale. My birthday was the 7th. Can I get a shout out? Ocho, listen to my mixtape. Absolutely, King. I mean, Kale. Happy birthday, bro.
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Happy birthday. My boy Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You say he said you got his mixtape. Take a look at that.
Co-host/Ocho
All right, all right, all right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, I mean, bro, he won the show today. He looked really good. Now, you got to realize there have been very few people that could have a physique like. Like Ronnie, like Phil. I mean, Phil had those feel have field body was like flex. Wheeler had those round. Those round belly muscles and tremendous from the front, but the back is where you want. You go back and look at the Olympias, you look at Lee, you look at Ronnie, you look at Phil Heap, you look at guys. Mike Metzger, Yusumel Benu. You look at those guys, they had backs.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Everybody's not gonna be like that. And you have to understand that. I do. Andrew Jack one would. No matter what you think about, he didn't look good. No. Ain't nobody gonna have. Nobody is gonna have the thickness, the fullness that Ronnie, because Ronnie was a power lifter. So all those deadlifts that he did built up those chain muscles, those spinal erectors, and it looked like that you're gonna be hard pressed to find somebody that had the detail that afflict that I feel he had, especially on those small. Those small belly muscles that just. You got to be born with that. Hey, but Andrew Jack one.
Co-host/Ocho
Hey. Dude is huge, huh?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Who, Andrew?
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Yeah.
Co-host/Ocho
Golly.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You look. You look. Yeah, he look good. He looked good. He did. You look at his. You look at his delt. Nice abs. But like I said, I mean, bro, everybody's gonna have a weakness. There's not Been a complete bodybuilder, where he had. Oh, he had the best chest, best calves, best this, best that.
Co-host/Ocho
Hey, I think. I think I'm gonna be an IBF pro, man. What you think?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nah, you're too late now, bro. Oh, it's too late. And you could. First of all, you not gonna. It's too late, bro. They. They. They. I don't care how much supplementation they give you, it ain't gonna work.
Co-host/Ocho
Okay, I could just. All right. Not by. I do the physique. What's it. Is it. What's the category? Physique?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They got physique.
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Yeah, Yeah, I do physique. I could win that right now.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, with the board shorts. Now, you're not. You're not. You still not gonna win.
Co-host/Ocho
But, hey, I'm. I'm. Well, I'm chiseled. Hey, I look like a sculpture, you know? You know the Greek gog sculptures? How they do?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I do.
Co-host/Ocho
That's how I'm built like that with no shirt.
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You need to go see those guys, and then you'll get a sense like, damn.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah, I didn't see. I didn't. I didn't see them in person.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And first of all, you eat Waffle House too much. You not fit to die down and get like.
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I'll stop. I'll stop if I know I'm competing. I'm three months out. I'm good. Huh? You. You will understand until you see me. All right? I'm away. I'm away to the summer. When the summer come, I'm gonna hit the beach. I'm hit the beach in Mosquito.
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Oh, Lord.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. You just can't wear the board shorts. Just wear the board shorty. You don't gotta wear no Speedo.
Co-host/Ocho
I mean, you. Okay. My European trunks.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No. Just wear board shorts. No, like, you're a surfer.
Co-host/Ocho
I'm wearing my European trunks. Huh? Oh. Because I need. I need ma, Ma, and McAvs to show.
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Oh, you ain't got no calves.
Co-host/Ocho
Come on, man. You be playing, man. Play. Look at these cast, bro. Look at the thing, huh?
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I've seen bigger legs on a piano.
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Hey, really care, huh?
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This man here.
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Yeah.
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Hey, don't load the village. My brother Kendall is battling cancer. Can y' all send him some love and prayers? Absolutely. Kendall, bro, the family here at Nightcap, man, want to wish you the best. Speedy recovery. Stay prayed up. We're playing for use, so make sure you. And the family is praying for you as well, man. I'm sorry to be going through this, but we Know you can persevere and you will overcome. God bless. Jack. Bus 13. Hey, Ocho. How y' all feel? Tennessee. Who. Oh, how about Tennessee and who you feel they should draft? Love y' all tighten up.
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I mean, Tennessee need. They need a receiver. Calvin really coming back off. Off injury. I'm not sure how that's going. I'm sure he's going to be. Be able to get back, but they need a receiver. They need another dog. I'm not sure what pick they're they're picking at.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They're picking high up for sure.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah, I'm. Yeah, I would. I would love for them to get another receiver. They need. They need it for Cam
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J5107 Ultra. I'm 62180. I think I can take on a small silverback easily. You can't even be the chimpanzee, let alone a silverback.
Co-host/Ocho
Boy. Chimpa give you hell, too.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now, that's what I just told him. No, He could take on a small silver bag. There's no such thing as a small silverback because first of all, I think a silverback has to be about 12 years of age before they get that color hair on their back. And only the. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, I think they have to be about 12 years of age before they start getting that coloration on their backs. And I ain't never heard somebody. Oh, that's a small silver back. No. And at 62180 you ain't beating the chimpanzee. First of all. You not even. You not even beating a female.
Co-host/Ocho
Hey, he might not be the panda.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, no, no, no, no. He ain't beating a panda. Pandas are mean as pandas.
Co-host/Ocho
They are?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Hell yeah.
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They so clumsy and fun.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay. Clumsy. Okay. That's what you think. Okay. The Zooda got y' all food. How they be? Hey, they be doing all stuff for tricks and all that. And them the lions come up there and they clapping. Okay, okay. Juice 1976 Uncle Joe team. Y' all keep out working these boys. They mad y' all beating them in their own space. That's what we do. That's what we do. Teddy Hart 29:13 why is Amazon prime show at the NBA game called themselves Nightcap. They call the NBA show and the NFL show that. But y' all know who the original nightcap is? Often duplicated, imitated, but never duplicated.
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101.
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Tim's Bed 7618 UNC Ocho. What y' all think about the competition? AFC North, Max Mile TJ what you
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think it Ocho be crazy. I'm crazy. But listen, we just saw. We just saw a team last in AFC north with a bunch of names on it. You know, on paper you'd have thought they would have been a dominant defense, you know, in the Steelers and they didn't look anything, you know, like the names or like we thought they would look like. But Matt Crosby is Max Crosby. He is everything as advertised. So he definitely going to make the Ravens defense tremendously better and be impact right away.
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Don't forget to spring forward now. What Spring forward. Set your clock up an hour.
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Oh yeah, you know I got an iPhone. You know it says itself. Oh yeah, I got an iPhone, you
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know, so I'm just making sure.
Co-host/Ocho
So that means we losing an hour of sleep, huh?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's what that means. Ocho.
Co-host/Ocho
That's fine, that's fine. I'm go. I go to bed early anyway.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You gain. You gain an extra hour of. Of. You gave an extra hour of daylight though.
Co-host/Ocho
Yeah, I like listen, as. As a, as a medicine, a brother of the cloth. I'm okay.
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Hosted by Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”) & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (“Ocho”)
Key Guests: Quinshon Judkins, Claressa Shields, discussions on Logan Paul, Le’Veon Bell, Dan Hurley, Lionel Messi & more.
This Nightcap Hour 2 episode dives into a wide range of hot topics in sports, from NFL coaching changes and big contracts to gender dynamics in combat sports, social media boxing callouts, college basketball controversy, and eye-popping contracts in soccer. Shannon Sharpe and Ochocinco keep the tone playful yet candid, offering unfiltered opinions, plenty of ribbing, and personal anecdotes. Major recurring themes include the psychology of greatness, separating confidence from delusion, and the business side of sports.
Timestamps: 03:37 – 07:02
Judkins’ Input:
Judkins reports that new Browns head coach Todd Monken is notably different from his predecessor, Kevin Stefanski. Describes Monken as a "real players’ coach,” communicative, and clear about his goals and vision:
“He was like a real players coach bro—give me a hug...he knows exactly what he wants and he has a vision.” (04:01, Quinshon Judkins)
Coaching Style Analysis:
The hosts compare Monken’s approach to the more reserved Stefanski:
“Everyone has their coaching styles...when you have a coach that’s somewhat mild-mannered...maybe Todd Monken is just different. So for him that is refreshing.” (04:44, Ocho)
Cynical View of Coach Promises:
The conversation turns light-hearted, as Ochocinco notes new coaches often wear a politician’s mask until it’s time to deliver:
“Coaches, when they first get to a team unc, they like politicians, boy...they act like they don’t even know you...Everything changed.” (06:07, Ocho)
Timestamps: 07:05 – 09:32
New Contract:
Eagles DT Jordan Davis signs a 3-year, $78 million extension – the highest-paid nose tackle to date ($65M guaranteed).
Development Praised:
Sharpe and Ocho laud Davis for transforming from a two-down player to one of the league’s best, outplaying teammate Jalen Carter this year.
D-Lineman Payroll Debate:
They ponder whether teams can afford to pay two DTs at elite levels, referencing teams like the Cowboys and Packers.
Timestamps: 13:34 – 27:05
Shields’ Self-Belief:
Claressa Shields boldly asserts she could beat Rolly Romero, a male world champion, citing her size, reach, and boxing skills:
“I’m way taller than him, way longer than him and got better boxing skills.” (13:54, Shields)
Sharpe’s Reality Check:
Sharpe disagrees, stressing fundamental physical differences:
“There is not a woman that...if it’s physicality involved, a woman is not beating a man. That’s why they have women’s sports and men’s sports.” (14:29, Sharpe)
Mindset vs. Delusion:
Ocho admires Shields’ confidence, calling it a "key to greatness”—but Sharpe draws the line:
“There’s a fine line between confidence and delusion. That in and of itself, is a damn skill.” (17:34, Sharpe)
The Athlete/Animal Analogy:
The segment veers into society’s over-estimation of physical ability, referencing “could you beat a bear/lion/gorilla” internet memes—which Sharpe debunks.
On-Screen vs. In-Person:
The hosts argue that TV can’t convey the true intensity or danger of combat sports, and that Shields should focus on her dominant legacy in women’s divisions.
Timestamps: 29:58 – 39:42
Million Dollar Bet Challenge:
Logan Paul throws out a $1 million escrow challenge to any NFL player willing to box him in Puerto Rico—Le’Veon Bell is interested, but players seem reluctant.
Sharpe Dismisses "Fighting Non-Fighters":
“You don’t get credit for fighting somebody that doesn’t fight...If you say you’re a fighter...you need to fight somebody that fights.” (35:47, Sharpe)
Ocho on Boxing Reality:
Even fit NFL pros wouldn’t last past a round or two with a real pro; skill and conditioning are on another level.
Side Tangent (Travel):
Humorous debate about flying Spirit vs. Delta, using frequent-flyer miles for trips to Puerto Rico, Mexico, Haiti. Ocho leads, pushing for “Spirit is the greatest airline.”
Timestamps: 47:50 – 49:20
Incident Recap:
Hurley ejected after arguing a non-call, continuing his pattern of fiery interactions with refs.
Comparison to Legends:
“Is he as bad as Bob Knight?”
“Ain’t nobody bad as Bob Knight. Bob Knight was cussing, throwing chairs, punching people...” (49:23, Sharpe)
Timestamps: 49:43 – 51:40
“You can’t repay him for that...There’s no amount of money...” (50:13, Ocho)
- “Players' coach bro—like you know, give me a hug...just super communicative.”
(04:01, Quinshon Judkins)
- “Coaches when they first get to a team...they like politicians.”
(06:07, Ocho)
- “There’s a fine line between confidence and delusion. That in and of itself, is a damn skill.”
(17:34, Sharpe)
- “You don’t get credit for fighting somebody that doesn’t fight.”
(35:47, Sharpe)
- “Spirit is the only airline that never had issues. Now, we might have a—might have a fight or two.”
(41:38, Ocho)
- “Is he, Is he as bad as Bob Knight?” “Ain’t nobody bad as Bob Knight. Bob Knight was cussing, throwing chairs, punching people...”
(49:20–49:23, Ocho & Sharpe)
- “There’s no amount of money, you know, you can pay Messi for what he’s done for soccer in the States.”
(50:13, Ocho)
Bodybuilding Talk (Arnold Classic):
(61:43+) Sharpe and Ocho debate physique standards old vs. new, referencing Ronnie Coleman, Phil Heath.
Q&A Segment:
(51:40–73:08) Fans ask about the difficulty of Super Bowl wins vs. long-term relationships, AFC North competition, animals humans can’t beat, frequent flyer debates, and more. The section features plenty of witty back-and-forth and sports nostalgia.
This episode brims with candid insights, signature laughs, and the hosts’ no-BS approach to sports debate. If you enjoy locker room banter laced with straight talk about what really separates top competitors (coaching, self-belief, the business behind the game), this Nightcap Hour delivers.
Skip ads and intros; the action starts at 03:37 with Judkins’ segment.