Nightcap Hour 2: Rolly Romero JOINS Nightcap to talk DEVIN HANEY & Claressa Shields + Kyler Murray VISITS Vikings + Daniel Joins GETS PAID by COLTS

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 2: Rolly Romero Joins Nightcap to Talk Devin Haney & Claressa Shields + NFL News (March 12, 2026)

Hosts: Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson
Special Guest: Rolly Romero (WBA Welterweight Champion)
Main Topics: Rolly Romero’s boxing journey, upcoming fight rumors, women-in-boxing debates, NFL player moves (Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones), and more

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Episode Overview

This Nightcap Hour 2 episode of Club Shay Shay features boxing champ Rolly Romero joining Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco. The discussion centers around Romero’s career, high-profile upcoming fights—including a possible matchup with Devin Haney—his thoughts on belts and boxing promotion, a candid recounting of his personal struggles, and the buzz around Claressa Shields. The episode wraps with spirited conversations about NFL quarterback moves, fan questions, and some playful banter.

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Segment Highlights & Key Discussion Points

1. Rolly Romero—Career, Fights, and the Value of Belts

[00:30–07:22]

• Status Update / Devin Haney Fight Plans

  • Romero hints at a likely fight with Devin Haney at the end of May 2026.

    “Well, I think we have Devin [Haney] for maybe at the end of May… they're still trying to go back and they don't want to sign the contract… but it’s looking like they will.” (C, 01:19)

• Weight Class / Unification

  • Fight would be at 140 or 147 pounds, aiming to unify WBA and WBO titles.

• On Sanctioning Fees & Belts

  • Romero defends paying sanctioning fees, noting belts elevate a boxer’s earning power.

    “It's a business like everything else. Everyone has an overhead. You can’t do this for free…” (C, 02:20) “We fight to be world champion… You can negotiate better fight purses when you have a belt.” (C, 03:30)

• Who Are Draws Without Belts?

  • Names like Canelo and Tyson Fury cited as major draws regardless of belt status.
  • Jake Paul given as an example of influence-driven promotion.

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2. Boxing’s Entertainment Value & Style Debates

[05:26–07:42]

• Shakur Stevenson—Talented, But Not Entertaining?

  • Romero calls Shakur “an incredible fighter”—but says his style isn’t exciting for most fans.

    “He's a great fighter...for casuals, it's not appealing. And the people that pay for boxing are casuals.” (C, 06:19)

• “Casuals” vs. “Purists”

  • Shannon says he appreciates pure technique; Romero counters that pay-per-view success hinges on entertainment value.

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3. Rolly’s Origin Story: Judo, Boxing, and Life Struggles

[07:42–13:13]

• Switch from Judo to Boxing

  • Driven by his father’s boxing background and tough love.
  • Story of breaking noses early in his boxing experience.

• The Mayweather Connection

  • Signed with Mayweather Promotions in 2016 after making an impression in the gym.

• Personal Hardships & Turning Point

  • Recounts homelessness after being kicked out, struggles with family.

    “I was homeless…couch surfing...I’d be stuck in the street, sleeping in the street.” (C, 11:00)

  • Emotional story of hearing a mysterious voice he believes was God, which inspired him to reconnect with family and refocus on boxing.

• Breakthrough Moment

  • Floyd Mayweather hands him a $2,000 check at rock bottom, marking a new beginning.

    “That $2000, I looked at, right…this money is from God. Because there’s no reason why. That’s the only money Floyd has had ever given me.” (C, 16:06)

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4. On Boxing, Goals, and Achievements

[18:20–20:31]

• Reputation as a Power Puncher

  • “I like punching people in the face. I mean, what else, man?... I joined boxing to try to hurt people.” (C, 19:02)

• Goal Reflection

  • Missed his first dream of making the Olympics, but now a three-division champion in under 20 fights.

    “Tell me another fighter with three world titles and three divisions with less than 20 fights, other than me and Loma, there isn’t.” (C, 20:20)

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5. Claressa Shields Call-Outs & Gender in Boxing

[20:36–23:27]

• On Shields Challenging Him

  • “She’s a competitor. I mean, she has to be confident. I never heard of anyone saying 'I'm going to fight this person and lose.'” (C, 21:08)

• Would He Fight a Woman for $20 Million?

  • Refuses on moral grounds:

    “20 million, 30 million, 100 million—bro, I wouldn't sell myself to go hit a woman.” (C, 22:42)

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6. Fight Preparation and Camp Habits

[23:29–25:54]

• Not Yet in Training Camp

  • “I’ve just been chilling...I mean, I'll go hit the bag and stuff like that, but there's training and then there's training…” (C, 23:54)
  • Jokes about needing only two days to prepare for Haney.

    “Two days…two days for Devin.” (C, 24:53)

• Panel Praises Performance

  • Shannon: “You did a number on [Ryan Garcia]. So congratulations on that fight.” (B, 25:16)

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7. NFL Talk: Kyler Murray & Daniel Jones Moves

[27:07–34:54]

• Kyler Murray’s Uncertain Future

  • Visiting Vikings; starting opportunity a priority.
  • Ochocinco: “If the Minnesota Vikings signed Kyler Murray, J.J. McCarthy job is over…Kyler Murray is not losing that job to goddamn J.J. McCarthy.” (A, 28:08)

• Other Landing Spots Considered

  • Discussed alternatives: Rams, Steelers, Packers, Jets.
  • Running backs situation—Aaron Jones re-signs with Vikings.

• Colts Sign Daniel Jones

  • Two-year deal, up to $100M ($50M guaranteed).

    “When he came in, he came in hot, huh? He made the Colts organization look completely different offensively...” (A, 33:38)

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8. Fan Q&A—Physical Exams in the NFL and Food Debates

[35:33–41:41]

• NFL Physicals Explained

  • “It’s probably the same league wide…they take you from head to toe…” (A, 35:46)
  • Heavy detail for injury concerns.

• Mayonnaise on a Hot Dog?!

  • Fan submits: “Mayonnaise goes with… pretty much anything. Fried rice is another one.”
  • Hosts debate (and mostly reject) mayo on hot dogs; spar about their own food habits.

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9. Closing Banter—NBA Scoring, Max Crosby, More Q&A

[43:01–54:57 & 55:00-on]

• Bam Adebayo’s 83-point NBA Game

  • Discusses rarity, addresses those who try to minimize the feat:

    “If it was that easy, why haven’t nobody else scored [83 points]? There should be a plethora!” (B, 63:21)

• Max Crosby / NFL Trades

  • Discussion about failed physicals, what makes a trade official.

• Shakur Stevenson’s Style, Other Fights

  • Acknowledgement that not every great athlete is also “exciting”—Tim Duncan cited as a parallel.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the power of belts:
  “You need a belt to make money. Having a belt makes you more money.” (C, 03:30)

• On refusing to fight a woman, even for millions:
  “Bro, I wouldn't sell myself to go hit a woman.” (C, 22:42)

• On setbacks and faith:
  “I never pray… it was like I heard God's audible voice. …He tells me, everything's gonna be all right. Just go home.” (C, 13:13)

• On pure entertainment vs. technical skill in boxing:
  “For casuals, it's not appealing. And the people that pay for boxing are casuals.” (C, 06:19)

• Mayweather’s impact:
  “He’s the first person who ever took the chance on me in reality. …He gave me a check for $2,000.” (C, 10:09 & 16:06)

• Ochocinco on Kyler Murray and the Vikings:
  “Kyler Murray is not losing that job to goddamn J.J. McCarthy.” (A, 28:08)

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Key Timestamps

• 00:30: Rolly Romero intro & Haney fight talk
• 01:59–04:44: Belts, sanctioning fees, and the business of boxing
• 05:26–06:39: Box office draws without belts, Shakur Stevenson’s style
• 07:42–13:13: Rolly’s origin story, struggles, and Mayweather rescue
• 18:20–20:31: Romero on being a puncher, career goals/accomplishments
• 21:08–23:27: Claressa Shields, gender mismatches in combat sports
• 23:54–25:54: Fight camp approach (“Two days for Devin”)
• 27:07–34:54: NFL QB news: Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones
• 35:33–41:41: Q&A: NFL physicals, mayonnaise on hot dogs debate
• 43:01–54:57: NBA scoring records, Bam Adebayo’s 83-point night
• 55:00–end: Shakur’s entertainment value; more NFL and boxing Q&A

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Final Thoughts & Takeaways

This episode showcases Rolly Romero’s candidness—sharing both vulnerable and confident sides—while highlighting key issues in boxing business and athlete mentality. Shannon and Ocho seamlessly blend fight talk with NFL news and barbershop-style banter, keeping the discussion lively, informative, and personality-driven.

Essential listening for:

• Boxing fans interested in the business and personal journeys of champions
• Those following NFL QB moves and contract strategy
• Listeners who enjoy player stories and sports culture debates

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Oh, now we got another champion. Harry is. He's 72, 17, 213 wins by Kale. WBA welterweight champion, won the title in 2025. Previously held the super lightweight champion from 23 to 24 and the WBA interim lightweight champion from 2020. 20, 2021. He defeated Ryan Garcia last year by unanimous decision. Here he is, Rolly Romero. Rolly, how you doing?

[C]

I'm good. I'm chilling.

[A]

R. How's everything, man? Where you at right now?

[C]

I'm in Vegas.

[A]

You're in Vegas? I mean, I. I want to start. I want to start off early. What do we have lined up? Obviously, we're excited. Last fight against Ryan Garcia, you handled business. You did what you needed to do. Do you have anything lined up for this year for us to see Mr. Aon Jackson ry in the ring this year?

[C]

Well, I. I think we have Devin L For maybe at the end of May. So, I mean, you know, I mean, it's been a whole week now, and they're still trying to go back and they don't want to sign the contract. But, I mean, it's looking like. But it's looking like they will. It's looking like they will.

[A]

What?

[B]

What, what we. What way do we fighting at 40, 47?

[C]

What it be? Us unifying belts. The WBA and the WBO.

[B]

So you want two belts? You ain't satisfied with one?

[C]

Nah, you know, I'm. I'm happy with anything.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Matter of fact, hey, speaking of the bells, Rolly, how do you feel about the sanctioning fees? Is it okay with you? Are you worried about where the money is going?

[C]

I'm perfectly fine with pain. Let me explain to you with sanctioning fees, because everyone got this whole misconception of sanctioning fees. Like they. Right, okay, so let's say the wbo, the wba, the WBC and the ibf, they all have people that work for them and all this stuff, right? So they. How how are they paying for people to come over here and bring the people so they can bring the bells and sanction fights? All like, all this stu, adds up, right? You remember this. It's a business like everything else, okay? It's a business like everything else. Everyone has an overhead. You can't do this for free,

[B]

right? So you don't have a problem playing the same fees because you understand to run a business, it takes money and you're in the.

[C]

And, and that's the thing, too. I mean, you know, and like, specific fighters, like, you know, like, like they, you know, they refuse to pay, pay it, right? But you also got to realize this, right? You got to think about it like this, too, whether 12 divisions in boxing for, like, males, right? I'm not even going to count females right now. We'll do what there, there's a certain amount of divisions, Right, right, right. And for each one of those belts, there's a sanctioning fee, right? Obviously. Right? So somebody's not, somebody's not paying a sanctioning fee. That's the money that, that, that they're not receiving for their company. Yeah. Think about like that. On top of that, too. We fight for world. We fight to be world titles. We fight to be world champion. You say you, you, you, you, you, you need to. And on top of that, too, people lack common sense. You can negotiate better fight purses when you have a belt. Not without a belt, you don't make. You, you, you, you don't. You don't make money without. You don't make money without a belt unless you're like, you know, have a fan base from YouTube or something like that, like, you know, like Jake Paul or other influencers and stuff like that, right? But you, you need, you need a belt to make money. Having a belt makes you more money.

[A]

Right or wrong? Yeah, you're right. Are there.

[C]

So you got, you got to pay to play, right?

[A]

Yeah, you do. Are there, are there any fighters that you think are a draw that the people want to see that don't have a belt,

[C]

That don't have a belt or, or that they haven't had a belt yet?

[A]

Well, they haven't had a belt yet or maybe they lost their belt, but they're still a draw. So even if, I mean, I mean,

[C]

there's so many fighters, you know, like I said, I mean, Canelo doesn't have a bell and Canelo's a draw.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah. You know, so it's like.

[B]

But like, yeah, you're giving me, like,

[C]

a lot of like, bro, like, there's a lot.

[A]

You.

[C]

We could say the whole heavyweight division,

[A]

everybody's not a draw, though.

[B]

Every.

[A]

I'm talking about feeling.

[C]

No, no, I'm saying, like, bro, there's so many heavyweights that are draw. Tyson Fury doesn't have a bow, and he's a draw. Right, okay, so. So it's like, now, fighters that never had a belt, right?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I think if you've had a belt and you no longer have one, you can still be.

[C]

I mean. I mean, great example. Jake Paul.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, there. There's. Like I said, I mean, it's still. Regardless, it's still very premature, you know, for a lot of fighters, too, you know.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Like, for instance, like I said, I could start naming prospects. Boom, boom, boom, boom. And like, it's, you know.

[A]

Right.

[C]

But there's no fun and all that. Like I said, I mean, there's. There's a lot of fighters that'd be a draw.

[B]

We just had Shakur Stevenson on. He said, you know, hey, he looking for. Hey, he looking for anybody. 35, 40, 47, what's up?

[C]

I mean,

[B]

you. You. You. You've gone on record. You've gone on record rolling and say, man, this fight's boring. He boring.

[C]

No, no, no, no, no. Let me tell you, like this, right? Shakur, okay, is an incredible fighter. He's a very talented fighter. It's unfortunate that, you know, that stylistically, they're not very entertaining fights, but it doesn't take the fact. I mean, dude. Dude's a great fighter. Like, you can't. You can't say.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

You can't say that. He's not. He's a great fighter,

[B]

but stylistically, his style is not appealing.

[C]

Well, no, it's not appealing to really anyone in boxing. For casuals, it's not appealing. And the people that pay for boxing are casuals.

[B]

That's what I tried.

[A]

Hold on. I'm a purist. I'm not a casual. And I. I enjoy it because I'm understanding what I'm actually watching.

[B]

Are they more pierced or casual?

[A]

I don't know. I'm not worried about everybody else. I'm telling you, me, when I watch the sport.

[C]

Well, I mean, I don't really consider casuals boxing fans. I consider curious boxing fans know, like, people just watch boxing all the time, but, like. Because cash casuals will list whatever the top fighter is and just watch that fight, you know? But those are the ones that pay the money.

[A]

Yeah, I'm one that watches everybody fight. Yeah. Regards to who it is. And now you can't put the carriage before the horse. And talking about, you know, Rolly fighting Shakur. And he just said, we got Devin lined up in May, so we. We got. We got to keep. We got to keep the focal point.

[B]

Well, you can have two fights. He can have. He could have a fight in May and have another fight in.

[C]

I know, but I don't think that far ahead. Broccessing skills to be thinking about all that stuff. You know, I'm a boxer.

[A]

I'm.

[C]

We're not that intelligent.

[B]

Well, let me ask you this. You started out as a judo. What made you switch to just boxing and not you. And not stick with judo?

[C]

Well, I mean, the thing is, you know, the way I started, right? So it was like. My dad tried to make me box. This came. My dad was a boxer. He tried to make me box as a kid. My dad was a very, very, very, very talented fighter, you know, and. Okay, yeah, we had, you know, I. Doing judo right in one of boxes. My dad. My dad would. You know, my dad was really hard on me, right? Really, really hard on me. So last thing I want to do, right? So a judo place, right? Where me and my mom were living at the time, right? So I, you know, we went over there, and then I started doing judo, and I kind of stayed with it because I started at 9, and I ended at 17. Now, what had happened was, right, so we're watching the Olympics, or I was watching for judo and boxing came on. My dad's, like, all. Like, all excited watching. I'm like, bro, why are you even excited about these guys? These guys are just touching each other, don't even hit each other. They're scared of each other. And my dad's like, I don't curse no more, but. So he's like, oh, you. You want to do this? You're scared. You're scared. You're scared, right? I'm like, man, I'll whoop them. He's like, no, you're scared. So. So my dad took me to the gym the very next day, and I. I had. I put my. I put on the gloves. I broke some dude's nose, right? Yeah. Literally, just wild swinging, right? And I. I go to the gym two days later, I do the same thing. I break. Somebody else knows. My dad's like, hey, punch me as hard as you can right here. I'm like, no. I was like, you're gonna hit me? And he's like, no punch before. I'm like, no, you're Gonna hit me? He's like, no, for a punch me. I punched him both. At that moment, my dad realized, no, this dude can crack. Because, like, you know, I mean, my dad make me like hit pads as a kid sometimes. All stuff. I just barely touch it and all stuff, you know, so it's like, that's how, that's how that, that's. And I was like, well, I mean, I want to do this last tournament judo, right? So I ended up doing the last tournament judo in December of 20. I ended up starting boxing.

[B]

Go to boxing. You mentioned earlier, I was heard you, I think you was talking about it today that Floyd Mayweather was an early influence on your life, early mentor. And he probably doesn't know the influence that he had on your life. What did, what did Floyd do for you? What did he mean to you?

[C]

Well, first, he's the first person never took the chance on me in reality. I signed with Floyd August 20th of 2016. He would watch me literally stop everybody in gym and he's, I like foot champs on me. And he was like, oh, what's going on? He gave me his number and I called him the next day I was signed. But yeah, I mean that right there. I mean, the just Mayweather promotion journey as it is, you know, but. And even this, I, I was, I was out of contract and I still continue to work with, with Mayweather Promotions for another. My contract ended in 2019, at the end of 2019. And I stayed with Mayweather Promotions for another, what, four years or so. So, I mean, that's, that's how much, that's how much Mayway promotion has meant to me. Regardless, though, I mean, another thing too. I mean, I was homeless. I, you know, my. I told you my pops was hard on me, right? My dad, my dad kicked me out the house because I broke my hand, right? And, and I. So, you know, I go couch surfing one day. I stay with a girl one day. I go stay over there at a friend's house one day, bro, I'd be like 4 in the morning, I'd be stuck in the street, I'd be sleeping in the street. You know, it was like that for about a month and a half, right? And I had about, I had about 2k at the start of it, right? And I remember my mom gambled her money. I hadn't given my mom a thousand bucks and she'd pay around all that stuff, right? I didn't tell my mom any situation I was in because I wasn't. I never really talked about my Problems before. And I started dating this girl. She said she's gonna buy me a car and all stuff, right? You know?

[A]

She buy you a car?

[C]

Yeah, she said she can buy my car, you know? And so I. I got like 40 bucks left at this point, right? And, like, now I'm just, like, freaking out, right? And I'm like, hey, I go to her house. I'm like, yo, I need this car. I don't got no money. She's like, well, I don't got money. I'm like, okay, well, I need you to give me some money because I don't got money. She's like, no, but so with me being me, I curse her out and I leave and I go on. And I had. I go. I go back to my dad's house, right? And my dad in the summer, right? He done. He didn't. Keeps the door open. And he keeps the door open because hotter inside, I was outside, you don't put on ac, you know, them Cubans. And I go inside, my dad grabs a baseball bat. He tells me if I go inside, he's gonna beat me. And so I. I curse him out, and I leave.

[B]

And, bro, you know, because two people. I left in the same, trust me,

[C]

I. I cursed a lot of people, right? I don't care. I don't curse no more. I don't curse no more. But I. I go. I go to Cashman Field, right, bro? And I've never in my whole life have been more angry. And I'm like, bro, I'm. I'm mad, bro. I've never been so mad in my life. And then I start to cry, and I.

[A]

He.

[C]

I. I hear. Tell me what's wrong. I'm, like, freaking. I'm looking around, I'm like, who's there? I'm like. I hear him again. Tell me what's wrong. It was God speaking to me. I never, you know, I never was raised in a church or anything. And, you know, I never pray. None of that stuff, you know? And it was like I heard God's audible voice. So I told him everything that had happened. I told about my hand being broken. I told about my dad, how he was acting. I told him about my mom gambling my mind. I told him about that girl. I told him I had no car. I told him how I want to be champion. I told him how I hadn't talked to my sister in a year. I told him about my niece. I told her I was going to take her to the aquarium. Promised her that she was 2 at the time I told him about everything, that I had no money. I told him about everything that happened in my life. He tells me, everything's gonna be all right. Just go home. So this is. There's now 1145 on July 31, 2017. I start walking home, and the first person I see is my sister, who I hadn't spoken to in a year. I hadn't seen her in months. Wow. I. I walk up on her middle of the night. She had taken some melatonin. She didn't even remember speaking to me. I walked up on her. I just. And she got scared. And I was like, no, it's me. I give her a hug. I tell her I love her and I miss her. She go inside her boyfriend's house at the time. I keep walking home. I didn't even know she was. I didn't even know she was dating the dude. And that's how long it's been since I talked to her. I go, my dad still has door open. I walk up the stairs. I, I, I felt an angel holding me. Go up the stairs. I stayed up that whole night thing, my dad's gonna. It was a baseball bat, you know, and he went. About 2am I supposedly, probably about 4am I wake up. My dad already left the house. It's probably about noon now. I'm like, well, what do I do? The only thing I know I do is train. So I pack a gym bag and I take with the last bit of money I had, the last 40. I took an Uber to the subway across the street from Floyd's gym. I bought a Subway sandwich. I ate the Subway sandwich, and I walked across stream across street to the gym. I put on my headphones, right? I don't talk to nobody that day. I just go in there. I just Shadow box guys couldn't hit anything. I walk out. Floyd walk right past me. Just like this, right? I walk into a dressing room. I didn't even say hi to him. And I changed my clothes. I go outside, and Rafael Garcia's old cut man's right there. And I'm like, rafael, I think my hand's broken. He touches it all. Stuff where he's like, it's not broken. I'm like, well, why wouldn't it heal? It's been about two months now. Bread won't heal. And he's like, take green menthol alcohol and ice and mix it and just ice it every day like that for three weeks. And don't hit with it no matter where. I'm like, okay. I go to stand up, he grabs my shirt and pulls me back down. And I'm like, why? He's like, you'll see. Literally, 30 seconds later, Floyd walks right past me into his Rolls Royce. And I look at the. He looks at the side view mirror and he's like, champ, come here. I'm like, what's up, champ? He's like, write down your name. You give me his phone. He's like, write down your name. I write down my name. He's like, I got you. He shakes my hand. Fifteen minutes later, his assistant calls me. He's like, rolly, where you at? I'm like, I'm. Attention. She's like, okay, stay there. I'll be there in 15 minutes. She gives me a check for $2,000. And I remember, I just stood there frozen. Like, what? Like, frozen, just looking at the check, like, bro. Like, this money is, bro. This money is from God. Because. Because there's no reason why. That's the only money Floyd has had ever given me. He spoiled, you know, so many other fighters in the past. You know, they all did them dirty. But that $2,000 I looked at, right? And I'm like, there's no way. The first thing I do, right, I call my mom. Like, mom, hey, Mom, I got some money. I want to take Ariel to the aquarium, right? So I take her to the aquarium. Next day, that was August 2nd. Now the. The next day I had, I go to Toyota dealership. I'm like, man, I'm just. I'm gonna be a world champion. I'm signed to Floyd, yada, yada, yada. All the stuff I do, they gave me a car off the lot. No interest, no down payment, no nothing. I had about 1500 bucks and a brand new car. I never in my whole entire life needed money again. If I. If for whatever reason, I ran out of money, it was like it would fall out of the sky. Like, bro, like a side hustle would just come out of nowhere. Just. Or like, you know, I'd be gifted something or something. You know, I never needed money again in my life after that.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

But. But, wow.

[C]

But there was no reason for me to have that money. And then on top of that, you know, you throw everything else into that. I heard a mysterious voice the day before, and I ain't religious.

[A]

I wasn't religious, Right?

[C]

Explain that to me. Every one of my problems got solved from one day to another. Everything.

[B]

So you. Your reputation is you're a hard puncher.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you, like, you, you, you. I mean, Looking at your resume, 70, 17 and 2, 13 wins by kale, 76 of your fight, he don't. He basically don't remember a whole lot. The shot that you caught him with. Like, when you go into a fight rolling, tell me, what's your thought process? You're like, okay, I see some things I can take advantage of. I'm trying to. I'm trying to land his power, but, hell, every shot you throw a damn power, you trying to get him up out of you. When your dad say you a hard puncher, when you hit him in his arm, you think you're a hard puncher. You took that to heart and you like, okay, I'm trying to get you up out of here here.

[C]

Yeah, I like punching people in the face. I mean, what else, man? Dude, like, bro, I joined boxing to try to hurt people. I didn't join boxing to try to love people.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Hey, hey, when it comes to boxing, right, obviously, when. When you start any sport, when you start any craft and you put all the hard work in it, how far are you. Along with the goals that you set in the. In the boxing world?

[C]

Wait, wait, say that again.

[A]

Boxing. When we start. Let's say when I started football, I had goals that I said that I wanted to achieve. Oh, you're still. You're still early in your career. How far along are you in those goals that you set so far?

[C]

Well, I already messed up my first goal, but.

[B]

Well, your first.

[C]

Well, I didn't mess it up, but, I mean, you know, things happen, you know, but my first go out, all I want. I wanted to go to the Olympics. That's what I wanted. That was my dream. That was my dream. Yeah, but I already achieved all my other dreams in boxing. I mean, shoot, I'm. I'm a three division champion. Like, what else is, you know, right now? I mean, unified, being on power, get all four belts, all that stuff, you know, that. That's all. You know, that's all gonna come, you know, Right.

[A]

But.

[C]

But I. I have 19 fights, and I've been champion in three divisions. There's only one other fighter in history that did that, and that's Lomachenko. Tell me, another fighter with three world titles and three divisions with less than 20 fights, other than me and Loma, there isn't.

[B]

Wow. You've been in the news a lot this week. You know, why you've been.

[C]

I know I'm a little. You know, I just. Yeah, I. I don't even want to talk about it, but we're gonna have

[B]

to what, what, what is it about you that she feels that she can beat you? What, what is it about what? I mean, she looking at like, she's like, hey, what, we can fight at 165. I mean, she's 165. She said she can get down to 165. Her last fight she was at 1:75. What, what is, what, what is it about you, Rolly, that gives her the confidence that she can beat you?

[C]

I mean, she's a competitor. I mean, she has to be confident. I mean, I never heard of anyone saying, I'm going to fight this person and lose.

[B]

Right? So, I mean, well, we don't know. Women don't normally say, you know what? I'm going to fight a woman fighter. Doesn't normally say, you know what? I'm a fighter, male champion fighter, and I'm obedient in judo, in karate and mma, it doesn't matter. Tennis player, basketball player. We don't see women, we don't see someone of the opposite sex call out somewhat in said profession that they're in. Say, yeah, Serena, I mean, Serena Williams

[C]

did, and she lost to the like, rank 200 dude.

[B]

Yes. And he beat his sister too. One beat one six. One six. Two other six, two, if I'm not mistaken. But she was like, you know what? I can't beat. Listen, I'm gonna be honest. I can't beat a male. I just can't.

[C]

Okay, well, I'll say it like this, right? If she believes she can beat me, then she'll beat me.

[B]

Would you fight? Would you fight? Would you fight women? They got 20 million. They got a 20 million dollar purse. 20 million. You ain't gonna be driving no Corolla. You ain't gonna be driving no Toronto Corolla.

[C]

I mean, I don't drive any of those anymore anyways.

[B]

I know 20 million to go a long way.

[C]

Rolling.

[B]

I don't know, I don't know about you, but 20 million, that seemed like a lot of cheddar.

[C]

Oh, man, I don't hate women. I just don't hate women. It's not, it's not even about the money. 20 million. 30 million. 100 million, bro, I wouldn't sell myself to go ahead a woman.

[B]

I mean, that'll be a sanctioned fight, though. Raleigh, you ain't. I mean, Rollie, you and you and you, the squares, you in the square.

[C]

I'm telling.

[B]

She signed up for this. Rolling.

[C]

I, I know women sign up all the time and do stupid things, right? And all this Stuff.

[B]

I'm telling you,

[C]

it's not in my moral compass to go hit a woman.

[B]

Okay?

[C]

But if she believes she can be.

[A]

She could beat me.

[C]

She'll be me.

[A]

Well, all right.

[B]

Okay, so you, so roll it. And Devin, we're looking at something around May, so maybe something in probably around, around eight weeks. Yeah.

[C]

You know, I can't fight Devin now either. He's a woman,

[B]

You know? Now you know. You know he's watching this, right?

[C]

Who cares?

[A]

Hey, you Rolly, you in camp already?

[C]

No, no, I've just been chilling. I mean, I'll go. I mean, the thing is, I mean, I'll go hit the bag and stuff like that, but, like, there's. There's training and then there's training. You understand what I mean? There's no.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[C]

Yeah. There's, There's. Okay. I don't want to be at home bored, because what am I gonna go do? I can only eat so many hot Cheetos and play video games, right?

[B]

Hello? Rolly, if you talk about fat and Devin in May, I mean, shouldn't you be, like, hunkering down?

[C]

I mean, shoot, I, I, I was eating some chess mix right now.

[B]

It don't seem like you checking when

[A]

it comes to, when it comes to a fight camp, what you need two or three months normally. Normally when you have two days.

[C]

Two days?

[A]

Yeah, because he a gym rat, though. He always in the gym.

[C]

Nah, nah. Two days on these two days.

[B]

You need two days for, for, for Devin.

[C]

Two days.

[B]

Hey, he said.

[A]

He said you need two days. Hey, bring me, bring me in camp in two days. I'll be your sparring partner.

[C]

You got a jab on you?

[A]

Yeah, I probably got the best jab in the business, like Larry Holmes.

[C]

Get over here.

[A]

Okay, I got you. I got you. I got you.

[B]

Well, we hope that. We hope this fight happens. We hope the, the Devin Haney fight happens in May. Look forward to getting to the ring because you was very, very impressive in your last performance. You pitched the shutout. You did an unbelievable job on Ryan Garcia. Nobody. I don't think anybody expected that you did, but I don't think anybody outside of that expected that. And you did a number on him. So congratulations on that fight. And Ocho and I nightcap family, we looking forward you to get, get into the square with Dev and see what's, see what's really pop.

[C]

Of course, you know, I mean, like I said, if it does happen, it'll be May 30th. You know, we're just Waiting on some paperwork on their end.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I like it. I like it.

[B]

There it is. He's a, a former. He's a welterweight champ. He's a super lightweight champ and inter lightweight champ. He defeated Ryan Garcia by unanimous decision last year. Rolly Romero potentially has an upcoming fight May 30th against Devin Haney. Make sure you stay tuned. Check it out. Roll. If the fight happens, come back tonight, Cap and tell us like what we can expect. The fireworks that's going to happen because I'm assuming it's going to be at the mgm. Let us know what's going to go. What's cracking.

[A]

Of course. Of course.

[B]

Appreciate it, man. Thanks for joining.

[C]

Catch you guys.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Rolling.

[B]

Appreciate you, bro. Rolly Romero.

[A]

Hey, that, that was dope.

[B]

This might have been the most jam packed boxer.

[A]

That was an enjoyable story. I mean I was enjoying the story. It was a little long winded, but still it was exciting. You know, it had some exciting parts that, that kept me coming back. Like, oh well. Damn.

[C]

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[B]

Oh Kyler Murray will visit the Minnesota Vikings on Thursday. John Gambadaro reports A starting spot is a priority and Minnesota does offer that and a deal that can be done in the next 24 hours. But Murray and his camp are expected to explore several options as a backup in 2016 for teams that could need a starting quarterback. Seven over the next 24 hours. One team that has shown interest in Kyler as a backup in 2026 was reportedly the Rams. Now remember, the Ram took steps in Bennett a few years ago and with Matthew Stafford on a year to year plan, LA could use a starter in 2027 potentially still as an immediate starting option. Ocho, do you like the Vikings? Do you think the Vikes present the best opportunity? Now he says you know the starting the priority number one is starting. But if that's not available he would look to back up somewhere potentially and then 2027 shift.

[A]

Hey, you know good and well if the Minnesota Vikings Signed Kyler Murray, J.J. mcCarthy job is over. J.J. mcCarthy job IS over. If he goes to the Minnesota Vikings even with the high pick that they just picked him with two years ago, three years ago, whatever it might have been, his job is over. It's over from there. Kyler Murray is not Kyler Murray is not losing that job to goddamn J.J. mcCarthy.

[B]

If he, if, you know, o. If what you said is true, if he goes to Minnesota and J.J. mcCarthy's career is over in Minnesota, it is more egregious that they let Sam Darwin.

[A]

Absolutely. Listen, what, what, what, what. What he, what he gives to you as a dual threat and a passer and having those weapons. Addison, Justin Jefferson, Hawkinson, obviously, I'm not sure what they're going to do with the running back position. If I'm not mistaken, I think Aaron Jones isn't there any longer. I could.

[B]

No, I think, I think he signed a reduced rate.

[A]

I think he came back.

[B]

I think he came back at a reduced rate. That's good.

[A]

Listen, Kyler Murray in that offense, obviously being a dual threat, being able to run the ball with, Hell, he won't have to run the ball with, with, with that kind of talent surrounding him. So he, he should be fine. The Rams. The Rams. I, it's. I like it. I like him. I personally like him better in the offense over there with Justin Jefferson, Addison, as opposed to being over there in, in LA with Puga and Devonte. Even though, I mean, even, even though they're, they're great, but just the way that offense is run. I, I, he's better suited to me in Minnesota. I could be wrong.

[B]

I agree. No, I agree. I agree. And I think it's just hard for me to see him, Ocho, sitting on the bench even for a year. If I, if. I mean, because he's been thinking about Ocho. He did sit the bench his, his first year in Oklahoma. He backed up Baker Mayfield, then Baker left. He. Baker won the Heisman. He comes right in, he wins the Heisman. And Jalen Hurts finished second in the Heisman the following season. But being a starter in the NFL and then going somewhere in. I think if, you know, okay, he goes to the Rams. He knows he's not starting over Matthew Stafford, but it's go. It's hard for me to see a scenario where he goes to Minnesota. Like, I'm gonna be the starter. He can't beat me out.

[A]

He's not. I mean, we all know that he definitely not. JJ McCarthy's definitely not beating Kyler Murray out. If he happens to sign over there, and it's the best situation for him. I mean, there's no reason to talk about any other places. I mean, I'm not sure who his representation is. I mean, common sense, right? Common sense. I mean, go over there.

[B]

Yeah. Aaron Jones is back. Ocho on a one year restructured deal. His base salary moved from 9 million to 5.5.

[A]

That's dope. That's dope. I'm glad. I'm glad he is back. But it. It only makes sense. It only makes sense. Not only can you parlay this into multiple years. If you go in, if you go in and sign a one year and prove yourself, I mean, you fine. You're gonna be fine.

[B]

What about, what about the Steelers? I'm trying because if you see, if you, if you think about it, Ocho Geno Smith goes back to the, to the New York.

[A]

The Jets.

[B]

Yes, Yes. I thought that might have been a situation. Pittsburgh. You like. You like Pittsburgh? Because I'm trying to. Oh, I'm trying to think of where, where he can go.

[A]

I like Minnesota. Minnesota makes the most sense now. Kirk Cousins is. Has been released, if I'm not mistaken. I could have swore I saw that. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, man. You Got Michael Pittman Jr. Have DK Metcalf. Calvin Austin III is still there, right?

[B]

Yes. Greenway is the one that left.

[A]

Okay. Kirk Cousins, maybe if Aaron Rodgers continues to play games.

[B]

Greenwell. Greenwell. Not greenway. Greenwell.

[A]

What do you think, what do you think about Kirk Cousins over

[B]

in Pittsburgh? Yeah. Game. Well, went to the Bucks. I mean, I guess they're gonna use it because they got, they got two backs, you know what I'm saying? Because Gainwell is, you know, he's a. He can do a lot of things. He's a swint, sorry, knife. They give it to him in the backfield, they throw it to him out of the backfield, but he can also get down the field. So that's. I mean, I'm surprised, I'm surprised Pittsburgh didn't try to resign him because he's one of their best offensive weapons. And when, and, and, and when DK got suspended and they couldn't have anything, he was the guy that Aaron Rodgers relied on. And Aaron Rogers said, I'm trying to get him paid. He said, I like the kid. He's a smart kid. He can do it all. He'll block, he'll catch it, he'll run. I'm trying to get him paid. Well, Aaron couldn't. He didn't get paid. Pittsburgh didn't pay him, but someone thought saw some value in him. And that's what I tell guys. Hey, the team that you playing for, they're not the only one that pay people. 31 other teams will pay you. So if they don't find that you have something that you can make and use. Hey, put it on tape and let somebody else pay you. Ocho. The Colts and Daniel Jones have agreed to a two year deal worth $88 million. That could be up to worth $100 million. Jones gets $50 million fully guaranteed at signing, while 60 million is guaranteed for injury. Ocho, you like this two year deal? Absolutely.

[A]

When he came in, he came. He came in hot, huh? He came in on fire.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He made the Colts organization look completely different offensively that nobody saw coming. I didn't. I didn't see it coming. I don't think you saw it coming. And I. I based everything off of high. Look, when he was the goddamn New York Giants, there were flashes of brilliance, but most of the time he was inconsistent at the quarterback position. He went the goddamn Indy and went crazy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

With Jonathan Taylor in the back, man, it's worthy of what they just paid him, even coming off that injury. It's worthy. It's only right.

[B]

I like it. Ocho, he gets money. He gets decent money. Well, I shouldn't say D.C. he gets really good money, Ocho. But I ain't got five, four, five years tied up in him. I got two years. So we both get what we want. He gets like, at the time he signs his name on the dotted line, Ocho, they cut him a check for 50 million taxes. Two year deal. I'm not having. I don't have to worry about 100 million or 120 million fully guaranteed at the time of signing. Cause remember, Kurt got 100 million fully guaranteed for two years. So if things don't go well, I'm off him in a year.

[A]

Bye. Bye.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. So I like it. I think. I think this is a win. Win for everybody, Ocho. All right, before we go. It's time. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q.

[A]

Hey, I'm feeling good tonight. Boy crazy.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Hey, creating the. Creating another topic.

[B]

Before we get to our super chats, we've got some video voicemails from our discord. So make sure you join the discord and submit video voicemails for the show. This one comes from Augie. Let's take a listen. What Augie had to say. Oo so with Crosby playing the physical,

[C]

the Ravens backing out of the trade,

[B]

I'm curious to know, what does an NFL team physical consist of? Or does it vary from team to team? Or is it just the same thing league wide?

[A]

I think, I think. I think probably. It's probably the same league Wide, huh? They take you from head to toe, but they want to know everything. Any and everything. Flip you upside down.

[B]

They.

[A]

Hey, you know how you, you know, you take your car to the car wash and you ask for a detail, a car wash of the detail. The same thing. That goddamn physical is like. They know everything.

[B]

Yeah, they're gonna. Look, you're absolutely right, Ocho. And especially if you have an injury, they're going to X red. They're going to ultrasound. I mean, they're going to give you a. They're going to give you a. A full. A full. As Ocho said, a full detail. They're going to give you full workover. They're going to test that need. They're going to make sure structurally. Because even though, like Ocho, when I went to the doctor, he's like, okay, let me, let me see. We understand. I see the, I see the, the imaging from the mii. Let me see how your ligaments are. MCL good. ACL intact. So it is just cartilage. Let me see the other knee. So they do all that. You got a shoulder injury. They're going to take the shoulder. Excuse me. Chat. So they're going to make sure, bro, I'm about to invest $100 million.

[A]

Yeah, they looking for something. Any little thing, too. I hate that boy.

[B]

I mean, some people, I mean, look, if you got so much money that you can buy something sight unseen, more power to you. But when you start putting that kind of money or something, I want to see it, I want to touch it. When they say kick the tire. I'm literally.

[A]

I don't like that too. What do you call it? You know when they check your knee and they grab the knee and they, and they, and they. Oh, yeah, that gave me the ick. It gave me. It gave me the ick.

[B]

Yeah, I've had that done so many times. Because that's, that's really the only way. That's the way they can tell pre mri. If the ac.

[A]

How do they know? What does it feel like? What does it feel like if it's not intact?

[B]

It's not. It's. Or they could tell mcl. They say, okay, where do you feel? You know, they're gonna, you know, a little bit. Where do you feel that at? Inside, outside. You know, my, my situation. I had. Had, had an mcl. I've really never had a meniscus. I've had a grade two of my mcl media collateral ligament. No, never had. I've always. I'm kind of loose in My. In my. My. My. Am I acl? So that's. So my dad's like, you know, we. That. That's fine. We. We know your. Your ACLs are a little loose than most, but they. They. You know, like you said, it does. And it does. Like. Oh, damn, bro. What? Nothing wrong. My d. Until you started poking on it. Now my hurt. I'm like, don't f. But I get it. The next one comes from Kevin. Let's take a listen to what Kevin had to say. Hey, Mr. Sharp.

[A]

Right now, I'm watching Club Sashay with

[B]

the Gabriel Iglesias interview. I had to pause it because you're talking about Spam and mayonnaise. Mayonnaise definitely does go on a burger, and it does go on a hot dog, and it also goes with Spam, But I'm pretty sure Spam goes good with the salad, scrambled eggs, and the grilled cheese and pretty much anything. Fried rice is another one. Kev. I don't know. That might be a Mexican. Ocho, have you ever heard of somebody putting mayonnaise on a hot dog?

[A]

Not on the hot dog. I mean, mayonnaise.

[C]

Mayonnaise on the burger.

[A]

And listen, I'm not one to ask, especially when it comes to hot dogs, because you. You know, every time I go to a sporting event, I get to. And I eat it plain. I don't know why. I've always been like that.

[B]

Yeah. So that he was talking about. I did an interview with Gabriel Iglesias. He's funny, comedian, fluffy. Yeah. And Ocho, he was telling me, like, Spam. I said, okay. It's ma'. Am. Okay. He's like, smell it. I could do. I can. I said, I'm not the biggest mayonnaise person. I have eaten it. And sometimes you get it in some sauces. They make it like the cane sauce, have some mayonnaise in it, but just plain mayonnaise. I. I'm not. I'm not really a big fan of that. And then he started saying, yeah, I put it on hamburgers. I was like, nah. He said, oh, a hot dog. I said, oh, hey, Glizzy, you put. Man. I said, nah, bro. I said, bro. I think that's mainly. That's mainly a. A Mexican, because I. I don't like. I said, I. I've never seen anybody put mayonnaise on a hot dog. I'm sure you can. You can put anything. And they put chili. They put sauerkraut. They put relish, obviously. Onions, pickles. I've seen people, you know, normally mustard and ketchup and mustard. But I understand that people put different, different type of toppings on it, but I've never seen anybody put mayonnaise on it. So Chad, forgive me, I'm sorry. I, I just never seen it. And the way he was explaining it to me, he put mayonnaise on, on hamburgers, on hot dogs. Spam. Okay, I get spam, but nah, hell nah, not on the damn hot dog. And I don't even eat hot dog. Chad, y' all put mayonnaise on hot dogs.

[A]

They absolutely don't. It's, It's a select few that do that. It's a select few that, It's a select few people that also put ranch on. I, I've met a few people in, in life in general. They put ranch on every goddamn thing. Like, I, I don't, I don't know.

[B]

Ranch, no blue cheese. I ain't none of that. I'm, I'm simple. I just won't catch. Like, I get a burger, meat and bun.

[A]

I don't even do ketchup. I'm not. My ketchup already comes on my orders when I eat at McDonald's. But even there fries, I never, I, I've never in my life had, had ketchup with fries. I, I, I don't, I don't like it. The fries get it seem like it get in the way of something.

[B]

Patrick Ra. I saw your interview with Grave Iglesias, and I'm very disappointed to you. I eat my hot dogs with mayonnaise. Stop being so picky. Ah, bro, hell no. Hell no. Chat. Have I missed something?

[A]

Yeah, it's each his own, you know. Hey, that's an acquired taste on a hot dog. Nah, don't ruin my hot dog.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Hey, was Gabriel Iglesia's funny?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He invited me. I think him and Coyote having, they're having a show at Sofa Real now. Gabe. Gabe sold out Dodger Stadium.

[C]

Jesus.

[B]

Now the only comedian ever now he enjoy Coy Joe Coy is, is so far and I think they sold out, so.

[A]

It's so crazy. It's so funny, right? Speaking of comedy and, and you know, I'm, I'm dibbling, dabbling. I'm like an octopus trying to have my hand and everything. I'm in, I'm in talking in talks right now and chat with Netflix for my own comedy special. Yeah, but only, only dad jokes. Yeah, like no. So, so think about this. This is, this is, this is the reason why Netflix is coming to me with a comedy Special where I'm just gonna do dad jokes for hours straight. Why is it good? Think about this. Why is it good to wear glasses in math class? Yeah. Why should you wear glasses in math class?

[B]

I don't know. Why should.

[A]

Because it helps with the vision. You get it?

[B]

Yes. I wrestle. I win. Ocho, I can help you bowl better. I sent you proof to your Instagrams. UNC needs hips and knee oil. Hashtag Tin man undone. Bowling. You done? Oh, as a matter of fact. Anybody want to buy some bowling balls? This is a bowling shoe. I got a size 13, and I got like, four bowling balls. One with a Denver Bronco logo, one with a beer logo, and one with just my name. And the bag is a Bronco bag. I got a Bronco bag and a regular. A bowling ball bag. I think my bowling day is over. Is Jay Vincent. Please get Crosby. Bengals. Oo them Crosby. They need Crosby.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'mma tweet that out tomorrow. I'm. I'mma call Mike Brown. I'mma call Katie and see what we looking like.

[B]

Ocho. Juan Palafax said Ocho. I have yet to see someone pick up four. Pick up a dollar bill and spit out four quarters. Now that was me. I told that story about that girl in. In Atlanta at Magic City.

[A]

Wait, wait.

[B]

Dollar bill. Pick up a dollar bill with that. Who ha. And spit out and give you change. Yeah, them Kegel muscles like that. I'm just saying. S. Crown media tampinese. Max, they just missed out on Trey. Tampa being cheap. Tampa don't lost a lot of play.

[A]

Yes, they have.

[B]

Hey, Kansas City. Hey, see if you can make a deal with Max Crosby. Put him and Chris Jones together because they lost a lot of guys too. Some they cut, some left in free agency. See Gabe go. This man was a handshake deal. You can back out because pen wasn't on paper yet. But why would anyone trust them again?

[A]

I mean, is it. Wait, is it even about trust at this point? Because everyone has to go through a physical no matter what, correct? It's not. It's not about trust. It's about you.

[B]

Actually, it's not official. It's not official until you pass that physical.

[A]

Yeah. Wait, does Crosby have to take a physical before he even leaves the Raiders to get traded?

[B]

I don't think.

[A]

Oh, I'm gonna say so. The fact that if. If they did do that and the Raiders cleared.

[B]

Yeah, now that's some.

[A]

That's some fishy stuff.

[B]

Well, it don't matter if the Raiders clear you. You have to clear the team that's gonna have end up giving the compensation, not the team that's receiving the compensation. Because when I went. When you. You took a physical, when you went to New England. I know you did.

[A]

I. I was healthy, though, you know, it wasn't nothing wrong with me.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. But I'm saying I took a. I took a physical for the Ravens OO for the simple fact I was coming off a broken. So they gave me an mri. They did me or they did all that other stuff to make sure it's healed. You know, they put. Hey, Ocho, they pulling on. You know, lift up, and, you know, they put in pressure and they try to hold it in, like raise your arms. So they're doing all that thing. They pulling on it to make sure it's healthy. And I was. I was healthy, Ocho, because I broke my collarbone, like, the last week of September, the first week of October. So you talk about November, December, January. So it. I had been out, like. Yeah, I had been out, like, 12 weeks, 13 weeks. Not longer than that, because free agency didn't happen. Didn't start until, like, March. So I was. I was fully healthy. But they gave my arm a good old tug. They give it a run around to make sure. So, no, hey, there ain't no. Ain't no pin. It doesn't matter. Until you pass that team physical, ain't nothing. Ain't nothing happening. Michael Hooten been watching y' all since day one. Can y' all please wish my fiance Hannah a happy birthday? Absolutely. Michael. Hannah, Happy birthday. Happy, happy birthday. He didn't tell us the age, but happy birth forever. How many times around the sun.

[C]

Happy birthday.

[B]

Hopefully enjoy each trip.

[C]

To you,

[B]

Edgar, 55. As a Raider fan, I think they should keep Max Crosby. He has. He's had knee issues for two to three years now. We see what he can do. I think the new moves might convince him. Thought P. S. I'm not getting my hopes up.

[A]

I don't know. That's tough. That's tough. I mean, obviously, he wanted to be out. You're always gonna. As a player, you're always gonna tweet. You're always going to say the right things when there's a camera in front of you, but it's not how you feel behind closed doors. I mean. I mean, we fans, we should understand and know that by now. As a former player, I know that by now it's all about Mac Crosby trusting the process. Are they Truly building or trying to do what's necessary to turn this into a championship team that can contend. Being able to contend. It takes time. It's not going to happen this year. You have to continue to put pieces in place. Does he have the time to be able to stay around long enough to be able to do that and see them turn into a contender? Look at the division. Are they anywhere closest? How many? Are they anywhere closer to competing against the Denver Broncos or competing against?

[B]

Quarterback got to be good. Your quarterback got to be good because what did the Broncos have? Bo Nicks first round Justin Herbert, first rounder Pat Mahone. Pat Mahomes is. Is coming off of the injury Ocho. But in order to compete in that division, your quarterback got to be on point. The same thing with the NFC North. What do they got? Number one overall draft pick, Caleb Williams. Number one overall draft pick Jerry Goff. You in order? Green Bay, Jordan Love. In order for you to compete, your quarterback so. So it looks like all indications is pointing towards Fernando Mendoza. He's gonna have to be good now. If your quarterback is good, it doesn't take you long. You see New England. Oh yeah, they got a quarterback in the second year, the quarterbacks in the super bowl. You see the commanders. Jay Daniels first year gets him to get him to the NFC championship game the second year, the next year you see Kaylin Williams gets his team to the division around. We see Bo Nicks have the number one overall seed get to the division around. If your quarterback's good, it gives you a head start on the process of being good for an extended period of time. TS car was detail service bad up. What do you say about people who don't believe will 100 point game? I think they realize it now because they see now look, we'll average 50. We'll. Because here's the thing. We'll have a 72, two 73 point games and a 78 point game. So we think it's not a stretch. Ocho and he shot the ball in 100 point game. He shot the ball 68 times.

[A]

Hey. Hey.

[B]

And then he had another. He had another 32 free throws. 32. So he was 28 of 4, 32 from the free throw line.

[A]

How come they ain't no footage of that? Huh? They got foot. They got footage of everything else.

[B]

Oh, I think they said. I think attendance was like 2000 people.

[C]

They.

[B]

I mean a lot, a lot of. A lot of those games. I mean a lot of those games weren't televised. All they got all you got is the, the score sheet. Yeah, but I, I. Look, it's not like it is now. I mean, where, you know, everything is televised, everything is, is captured. The Internet, somebody got their phone in there and taking things of it. It's not hard for me to believe that he scored Honda. Bam got 83. Bam got 83. We talking about a man that got. I mean, you got to think about Ocho prior to this third when Will retired. Up until say the, like the last six years, Wilt had more 60 point games than every other NBA player combined had 60 point games. So he had more 60 point games than every other NBA player in the history of the game had up until say like the last eight, nine years. So it's not a stretch for him to get to a hundred. It's just that Bam like you talking about a guy, I think Bam maybe, maybe I think he might have had ash. I don't know if you can look it up right quick. Look at Bam's career high prior to last night. When you talk about a guy maybe

[A]

40, I think you do realize I think 41, if I'm not mistaken.

[B]

So he goes 42 points higher than his career high. Will had a 72, 273s and a 78. And if I'm not mistaken, he had those in the same season.

[A]

The same season.

[B]

So you can see if so you can see it's not a jump from 78 to 100, but to go from 41 to 83. We've seen Kobe. Kobe's 81. We have seen him had games where he's got 60 plus in three quarters. So he's like, well, damn Kobe. And so now people are thinking like, well, why didn't Kobe leave him in? And I think that's what I love about spo man guy going off like that. Let that man go.

[A]

Yep, let him go.

[B]

Let him go. Let him cook. Let him cook. Lee Mason, 12. If band did that to those sorry Wizards, imagine what I so would do to oo.

[A]

Wait, what? Wait, who?

[B]

Yeah, he say if, if, if Bam did that to the Wizards, imagine what they go, what Joe go do nothing

[A]

complaining about his knee hurt when I cross him up.

[B]

Yeah. Big Mike once said Bam fourth quarter was like Dak Prescott empty calories. But shout out to Bam though. Yeah, bro. Anybody that scored those. It's a meaningless game. It's a meaningless game on a Tuesday night. Kobe played a game. I remember Kobe game because it was after the AFC championship game. I remember watching it the Broncos and lost to the Steelers 2006, January. Go look it up, and it's a meaningless game on the January y' all make it seem. I can see if it's anybody that scored that number point. If it's in a playoff game, I get it. Or if it's for. To get you into the playoffs or better seating. Come on, guys, don't try to minimize the man. It's 83 points. If you're fortunate enough. You went around to see none of Wilts Loan for the most part, but you. You old enough to remember for the most. A lot of people are old enough to remember Kobe in 2006 of January. And you saw Dame have 70, you saw Donovan Mitchell have 70, you saw Luca have 70, you have Joel Embiid. You're gonna get this because guys are shooting the ball. You'll get it, though. Joe. Would I be surprised somebody get 90? Nope, I wouldn't. I'm not. I'm not gonna be surprised if somebody get 101. I'm not. I think the thing is, is that Bam got it. And he's the least likely guy if some. If I get. If I say, who do you think would be the next person to score 80 points in the game? I guarantee you not one other NBA player would have said, Bam Adebayo. And so that is what's so, so, so strange about it. But I take my hat. I. I take my hat off. I take my hat off. I mean, I watched the last little bit of it. I was like. Because when I saw 31 Ocho, I like, Damn, bam. Then 43 at the half, I'm like, I wonder how. I wonder if he can get like 70, 60, 70. But now the man got 19. He scored 19 in the third ocho, so now he got 62. Let him cook. Let him see what he can get. Yeah, I finally two to get the ball back. So give it to Bam. Ain't nobody tell y' all to be trash. Y' all taking. Well, you might get the number one overall pick, but you're gonna never bet somebody put 83 on y' all ass.

[A]

You're going down in history.

[B]

You. You are screw face Gina Fisher. Now, Shakur kind of got you there, got me out. Look, and my thing is, like, I like what I like. I never said he wasn't a great fighter. The same thing with Tim Duncan. Was Tim Duncan not a great player? But I don't think anybody's thinking that Tim Duncan was entertaining. They call him the big fundamentals. It's okay. I don't listen Oo if somebody said, man, I like up, but he couldn't score. Like, he couldn't score like Gates. He couldn't catch passes like Gonzo. He wasn't the. He wasn't the a, a. A guy that could block or run people over like Gron or. He wasn't as in the postseason. He didn't come up big like. Like nephew Kelsey. That's okay. I don't know why OO that we feel everybody has to like everything about us. Two things can be true. You can be great and not entertaining. But like he said, he's heard that before.

[A]

It.

[B]

I think it was the thing that I said it. Because that's what. That's what it is. Ocho. He's heard it before. Rollie said stylistically, his fights are not fun. That's what he said. You thought that's it? Is he sweet size? Does he know anything about.

[A]

He does.

[B]

So what did he. What did he say? Repeat what, bro?

[A]

He said stylish. Ski is not. He's not a fan of his style. But you're also talking. Talking about someone who has a damn near almost 80% KO rate. So it's different. It's different.

[B]

That's what people like. What. What do people like so much? Why do. Why do people like baseball?

[A]

Home runs?

[B]

No, no. Why does people like Mike Tyson but

[A]

everybody can't be Mike Tyson.

[B]

But that's what I'm saying. But that's why people. That's why. That's why everybody came out. You got the Jordans, you got the Magic Johnson, you got the Denzel, you got the who or the whole. Oh, that's who used to come to now, you know, with fight night, everybody shut it down. In the off season, when there was a fight football, if there was a big fight in June after the NBA season, NBA, NFL, everybody, the Hollywood, everybody showed up. Everybody. That's not to take anything away from Shakur. He's a phenomenal fighter. For Rob 3000, will Shakur fight Africa Hitchens.

[A]

Hey, Richard Hitchens. That was.

[B]

That.

[A]

That'd be a good one.

[B]

That a good.

[A]

I mean, he. He said the two. He said the two he wanted. Well, I mentioned the two I wanted. He said. I said Lamont Roach and Connor being at a catch weight at 144 would be really good. Obviously, Devin Haney at 147,

[B]

he will

[A]

never fight Kean Davis. Obviously, him and Keisha are very close.

[B]

They.

[A]

They. They train together. They spar together. I'm trying to think, who else is there? What about Xander, you know Xander Z?

[B]

I don't. I'm not familiar.

[A]

I think Xander. I think Xander might be 147. Mike Xander might be 147. Puerto Rican fight.

[C]

He's.

[B]

Hey, he said anybody that he fighted 47, they got to do away anything. 44. Catch weight or anything. 40.

[A]

Hey, Chad. Xander. Xander is 147, right? Boy, he nice. Xander nice.

[B]

Dulo Gante. You might be a bare knuckle fighting fan. Not the sweet science. So what was Sugar Ray? Did he practice the sweet science? What did Shane Mosley practice? Was he a sweet science guy? People you like what you like. Okay. It's like baseball, Ocho. Some people like pitching duels. But what did they do? Baseball didn't take off until what, Ocho? They started hitting it over the fence once. That's why those guys got bigger, they got stronger, it revived baseball and they had the thing. Chicks dig the long ball. What do they like. What do they like in football, Ocho? What did the NFL do? Made it easy for you to do? What? Score. What did they do in basketball? They took the hand check out. So what do they make it easier for you to do? That's what people like. Yeah, it's a ufc. Oh, I. Look, Charles Oliveira put on a clinic. Did another on my. It was.

[A]

It wasn't pretty, though.

[B]

Ask Dana. No, and that's what I was trying to say. When you spend that kind of money, bro, I want to see some action. J19. Excuse me. J. 1980. Excuse me. J. 1984. Ocho camera got nervous for him. Damn. Well, he about to get the ring with that Milk dud. Go be looking like a Peanut Shakur. Say, hey, oh, he gonna put you down with a body.

[A]

That ain't gonna happen. I didn't. I didn't been in the ring with too many of them Grace over the years. I'm not even worried about that. Man. He gonna have to.

[C]

He g. He gonna have to work

[A]

now

[B]

it's madded to JJ in the red zone. Vikings trail 7 to 42. Oo. Can you name one detail from Rolly story? I want to see if you were paying.

[A]

Yeah. When he walked to that front door and his daddy had that back and say he was gonna beat him with that back.

[B]

Yes. Yeah. He said his dad was hard.

[A]

That was a good story.

[B]

He didn't want to do judo because

[A]

he asked the girl for some money and she told him no. So he cussed out. Shoot.

[B]

He said. Yeah, yeah, he did.

[A]

He did. Hey, I would. I would listen To I would listen that. That story was good. Now it was a little long.

[C]

He was.

[A]

He was a long winded. But he has some parts where it got interesting. And he brought you back in. He reared you back in

[B]

the goat. 20, 22. Heat was up 30 in the fourth quarter. Intentionally filing, missing free throws on purpose, even turning the ball over. It was just hard to watch. Okay. You should have watched. Click. You got a remote. Click the man. I ain't watching this trash. If a movie, Ocho. If you're watching on something TV and it's not interesting, I flip the channel.

[A]

Flip the channel every time.

[B]

You still guess what. You watched every second of it because you wanted to see how many points he was going to end up with. Because you know what you want to say. You saw somebody score 83 points just in case you miss Kobe's 81.

[A]

You want to watch it and then you complain about it after.

[B]

Complain about it. Yes. Oh, they should. They should have honored Kobe. Kobe. Kobe wouldn't want that now that Mamba mentality. He was the closest thing to Michael Jordan. Kill or be. Kill. Now y' all say save. I wish y' all make up your mind. Brandon crowd. How do you grade the Browns off season heading into the draft? What would you like to see them do? I would like to see them get some skill. Position player. Special Wide receiver.

[A]

Big boy.

[B]

Huh? Wide receiver. Yes. Yes. And trade for Max Crosby. Tyrod reed. He scored 83 points in the NBA game against other professionals. What are we talking about? Yeah, but they also. They make it seem like Kobe scored his 81 against the 86.

[A]

You know how they and you know how the people move the goal post. They'll say Kobe scored against a bad Toronto team. And again then those try to justify it and say the same thing. Well, Bam scored against the goddamn sorry ass Washington Wizards. It's still the NBA. It's still an NBA team. No matter how bad they are. It's the best of the best. 83 points is a very difficult feat. It's difficult.

[B]

If it was that it. So why did Nobody else score 83 points against the Wizard? It ain't like they just got bad against the Heat. They've been bad all year.

[A]

Hey, you know people.

[B]

If it was these. Hold on. There have only been three people to score 80 points or more in the 78, 79 year history of the NBA. If it was that easy, why haven't nobody else scored? There should be a plethora.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Especially regardless, no matter what.

[B]

Goldbergs 800. Hey. UNC what if Mike ends up in Philly with that defensive line?

[A]

Oh, Lord, he's not. Don't worry about it.

[B]

You don't want that to happen. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank our very special guest, Shakur Stevenson for joining us and Rolly Romero. Thank you guys so much. Appreciate you coming on. Talking a little bit, Shakur. Thank you very much. You know, we didn't see. We don't see eye to eye on some things, but that does not diminish your greatness. You are unbelievable fighter and I'm glad you got an opportunity to come on. And if you do fight, who do you say he might be fighting?

[A]

Oo, wait, who? Rolly or Rolly said?

[B]

Yeah, no, no. Rolly supposed to be fighting Devin May 30, but I think Shakur said, like

[A]

potentially, yeah, I mean, yeah, I just threw names out there. He said yes.

[B]

Yeah. Okay. Thank you for joining us. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite. And the Liberty City legend, a pro bowler and an all pro from Cincinnati Bengals, that's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank you for your eyes, ears and your word of mouth. Thank you for the support from day one. You guys have been behind Nightcap Uggy Noo and we can't thank you enough. And we shall continue to grow thanks to support and your kindness. Please, please. Thank you again for your support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of shave by La Portier. Head over to la portierconac.com to purchase you a bottle if it's unavailable, any state or city near you. A premium VSOP cognac. The smoothest tasting, best tasting cognac on the market. Don't take my word for it. Try it against other cognacs. Compare. You'll see there's a big difference between ours and theirs. Please Drake responsible and stay safe again. Max Crosby goes back to the Oakland Raiders after the trade was sended for what the Baltimore Ravens are say a failed physical designation. He could potentially stay with the Raiders, but there's still some teams out there that in need of a pass rusher and will not have to give up a first round if I don't believe and get the services of Max Crosby. Stay tuned. I don't think this is over just yet. Want to thank our special guests for joining us Shakur Stevenson and Rolly Romero. Thank you again, guys. Hopefully chat, chat. You enjoy those guys tonight. I'm up. He's Ocho. We will see you tomorrow night. Thanks for joining. Sa.