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Roy McElroy never makes it easy special
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at Augusta national on Friday.
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He had six birdies in his final seven holes and the narrative shifted to the talk of him pulling a Secretariat
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or Tiger woods type.
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You know, hey. But today Roy Six Stroke Advantage, the largest 36 hole in Masters history was
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gone by the time he bogey the 12th hole.
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McElroy now shared the 5054 whole lead with Cameron Young. But the 90s Masters is wide open with 11 players are within five stroke. Rory will become the fourth player to repeat.
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Jack did it 65, 66. Nick Faldo did it 8990. Tiger did it 0102.
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And Roy has an opportunity to do it now.
Joe (Host)
So this, this, this the Masters, right?
Ocho (Co-host)
Yeah. Was this, what, what year was that? When was 90? The year that Nick Faldo tracked down Greg Norman. Greg Norman had a six hole, had a six hole, six shot lead. And, and, and, and Faldo tracked him down, sir.
Unk (Co-host)
Nick, now
Ocho (Co-host)
I think that's, I think that might have been 90. It might have been 90.
Joe (Host)
I mean they, they still got rounds to play tomorrow too.
Ocho (Co-host)
Yeah, one round left tomor the final
Unk (Co-host)
round of to cover the green jacket.
Joe (Host)
How, how far back is Scotty Scheffler?
Ocho (Co-host)
I think Scotty might be four or five back.
Joe (Host)
Okay, that ain't bad, but you got
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to be careful now. Big Scotty, he come and get you, huh? Hell yeah. Come on, Cam.
Unk (Co-host)
Come on, Cam. Young win now.
Ocho (Co-host)
But like I said. Hey, I think the thing is, is that to go out early and put pressure on them because they see when, by the time you, by the time they get there.
Unk (Co-host)
Yeah, they're gonna see them.
Ocho (Co-host)
God damn, look at that leaderboard.
Unk (Co-host)
I'm put some pressure on you.
Ocho (Co-host)
I'll put that pressure. That's What I'm gonna do, I will let you see. Hey. And don't let me. Don't let me start. Fire back. And here I am. I'm on 15 and I'm 12, 13 under. Or I'm in a clubhouse and I'm even.
Unk (Co-host)
Or one stroke above you.
Ocho (Co-host)
I'm in the clubhouse. I'm sitting pretty. I'm just throwing my golf ball up in there. I ain't even. Hey, don't worry about me.
Joe (Host)
Do you even think. You even think they feel pressure at that level? Hell, yeah, at that pressure. I mean, at that. At that level, though, I'm in the
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clubhouse with the lead.
Unk (Co-host)
Yes, absolutely.
Ocho (Co-host)
And then they come out that thing. Amen. Corner
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Ocho (Co-host)
Hey, you thought he felt pressure today when you saw them score, them scores. They climbing.
Joe (Host)
Four. Hey, somebody gonna come get hawked down like a track meet. I don't know who. I don't know who it's gonna be.
Ocho (Co-host)
Cameron Young was minus 7.
Unk (Co-host)
Rory was plus.
Ocho (Co-host)
Everybody. Everybody went low today except Rory.
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Cameron Young minus 7, Sam Burns minus 4.
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Shane Lowry minus 4. Jason Day minus 4. Justin Rose minus 3, Scotty Scheffler minus 7. Lee minus 3. Patrick Canale minus 6, Henley minus 6. Everybody shot. Everybody shot even par or. Or below par
Unk (Co-host)
except Rory.
Joe (Host)
When the last time you been on the golf course, huh?
Unk (Co-host)
When I beat you and Joe in New York.
Joe (Host)
No, I'm talking about, like, playing, like, you know, playing.
Ocho (Co-host)
I don't play no golf, man.
Joe (Host)
Huh?
Ocho (Co-host)
I ain't play no golf. I'm trying to think maybe like 2000. 2002, 2003.
Unk (Co-host)
The NFL used to have a.
Ocho (Co-host)
A golf.
Unk (Co-host)
Put on a golf thing, and someone's a little like Samuel Jackson and, and, and Matthew McConaughey and, and, and, and JT Justin Timberlake. A lot of celebs would come and play. They don't do it anymore.
Ocho (Co-host)
As a matter of fact, they used to be, if I'm not mistaken, it used to be in San Diego, maybe
Unk (Co-host)
at River Riviera, I think.
Joe (Host)
Riviera.
Ocho (Co-host)
So who you got winning tomorrow?
Joe (Host)
Huh?
Ocho (Co-host)
Who you got winning tomorrow?
Joe (Host)
Me.
Ocho (Co-host)
Scotty's four back, huh?
Joe (Host)
Yeah, I mean, Scotty, Chef. The only one I know. You know. You know, I've been on the green with Scotty a few times. I don't. I don't. I. I can't. I can't get in the golf. I don't know what it is, man.
Unk (Co-host)
It's a slow game.
Ocho (Co-host)
I mean, they say you play it,
Unk (Co-host)
you get bit BY you.
Ocho (Co-host)
See, LeBron started playing, he got bit
Unk (Co-host)
by my brother never played around in golf, and then he retired and he's addicted to it.
Ocho (Co-host)
Yeah, you see, and I think the thing is, just like anything, once you
Unk (Co-host)
get good at it, you just want
Ocho (Co-host)
to play and try to get better and better.
Joe (Host)
That's one sport. If you. If you didn't really start when you was young, man, it's. It's difficult. You can get good and. And from what? I ain't good.
Ocho (Co-host)
Like, they auto not hit, man, please. They can hit shot. They could. They could fade it. They could draw it,
Unk (Co-host)
man.
Ocho (Co-host)
Hey, they hit them stingers, man. They hit, man. Come on.
Joe (Host)
The only thing I like about golf is the fact that you can smoke your cigars on the course. Yeah, you can smoke on that goddamn course. But I just. I can't do it. It's expensive. But you see how much clubs are. Yeah, man, I'm good. I pass.
Unk (Co-host)
Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host)
I mean, I got some clubs.
Unk (Co-host)
TD bought us some golfing clubs.
Ocho (Co-host)
When he rushed for 2000, he brought
Unk (Co-host)
us some golfing clubs.
Ocho (Co-host)
These for 2000 to win. Winning MVP. Got a name. Got my name on the bag and everything. That nice clubs.
Joe (Host)
You don't be using it.
Ocho (Co-host)
No, they ain't been at that bag and they ain't been out my. My closet.
Joe (Host)
I can't do it.
Ocho (Co-host)
I gave it out, though.
Unk (Co-host)
Hell no.
Joe (Host)
Yeah, I think I would. I would have to be extremely old with. With no ability to run or be active, you know, doing the things I like to do now before I even get into golf. Yeah, I take. I take lessons then.
Unk (Co-host)
I got too much muscle. It's hard to lift weights. I mean, you do. You doing band work, right? Because you can't have nothing up here, right? Because all I'm doing is getting away.
Joe (Host)
I mean, I can't play then.
Ocho (Co-host)
Because that's why. That's why.
Unk (Co-host)
Who are really good quarterbacks?
Joe (Host)
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Unk (Co-host)
Basketball players, hockey play baseball. People that don't have pictures that don't
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have anything going on up here.
Unk (Co-host)
Look at the show.
Ocho (Co-host)
Look at quarterback.
Unk (Co-host)
Shoulders
Ocho (Co-host)
ain't got no muscle tone, right?
Joe (Host)
We'll be too stiff, huh?
Unk (Co-host)
Yes, yes, yes. Got to give it up. So what you want to do?
Ocho (Co-host)
You want a six pack or you
Unk (Co-host)
want to be good at golf?
Joe (Host)
Six pack.
Unk (Co-host)
Okay. See, there you go.
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Six pack.
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One of the main remaining unanswered questions
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for the NFL this.
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Nah, I'm just kidding.
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Unk (Co-host)
is whether Aaron Rodgers will be back with the Steelers this fall The Steelers have indicated that they expect an answer before the draft gets underway on April
Ocho (Co-host)
23, and it doesn't sound like he
Unk (Co-host)
shared any hints with one of the team's top offensive players. Jalen Warren said he's not making any bets about whether Rogers will play or retire.
Ocho (Co-host)
At this point, you know, I'm not really expecting anything. Whatever happens happens. I'm rocking with whoever that quarterback at the quarterback position. But if he comes back, great.
Unk (Co-host)
If he doesn't, then we'll miss him.
Joe (Host)
Hey, I know Aaron Rodgers is loving this. I think any quarterback is loving this. Where you got where you can have a team by the balls being what, 42? Wait, how old is he?
Unk (Co-host)
Yeah, 40.
Ocho (Co-host)
Yeah, 42. 42 sound about right? Oh yeah.
Joe (Host)
You know. You know, and this, this lets people know, those in the chat that are watching or those that are fans of the NFL game on how important the quarterback position is because they understand how valuable Aaron Rodgers is even though he's not the same Aaron Rodgers of old. Yes, the other options that you do have aren't the answer.
Ocho (Co-host)
They don't have no options.
Joe (Host)
I mean that too. Well, Will Howard is there. I'm not sure Will Howard is is the answer for the foreseeable future. But I mean, Aaron Rodgers is Aaron Rodgers. Even though he's not the same one he still gives you your best chance to win. I mean, he just does. That's why he can pull the shenanigan. Shenanigans that he does. And you know what? I'll let y' all know when I'm ready to come back knowing good and well, you know, you coming back. Why even, why even play this game?
Ocho (Co-host)
But even if he's not, let them have an opportunity to go get somebody in free agenc.
Joe (Host)
Ain't nobody to get.
Ocho (Co-host)
There was somebody, maybe, maybe they want to make a. Maybe they make a trade for somebody.
Joe (Host)
Oo nah, because they making a trade for somebody. They making a trade for somebody that.
Ocho (Co-host)
What about Kurt Cousins? Kirk Cousins was available.
Joe (Host)
Where did Kurt go? Kirk signed somewhere to the Vegas.
Ocho (Co-host)
To Las Vegas.
Joe (Host)
Oh yeah, that's right, that's right, that's right. Right. He gonna mentor Mendoza?
Ocho (Co-host)
Maybe.
Unk (Co-host)
Hey, hey, he could have been, he
Ocho (Co-host)
could have mentored Will Howard.
Joe (Host)
Listen, I don't know why Aaron Rodgers playing these games, but it is what it is. He did it last year, he's doing it again this year. He'll probably do it again next year as well. If the Steelers don't find, you know, his successor, he gonna keep doing it.
Ocho (Co-host)
You know the one team that he didn't do it with?
Joe (Host)
Green Bay, the Jets.
Ocho (Co-host)
The jets said no, we good.
Joe (Host)
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. AG wasn't playing that.
Ocho (Co-host)
No, because they've seen this for far too long. Even Green Bay, Green Bay said nah. But it, he should have known. He saw it play out with Roger, I mean with Brett Favre.
Joe (Host)
Right.
Ocho (Co-host)
They got tired of playing Brett Favre's game. You thought because you want. He was a three time league mvp, won a Super Bowl.
Joe (Host)
Right.
Ocho (Co-host)
You thought they were gonna get tired of your shenanigans.
Joe (Host)
Oh yeah.
Ocho (Co-host)
Just like they drafted you to replace him. Why do you think they draw drafted
Unk (Co-host)
Jordan Love to sit on the bench
Ocho (Co-host)
for the next 10 years?
Joe (Host)
Yeah, you're right. But, but listen, this is, this is the hard part. This is the hard part for the Steelers. When Ben Roethlisberger was there, they didn't draft a Jordan Love. They didn't draft anyone even as close because they didn't want to piss Ben off. Now you're stuck in quarterback purgatory. Look at somebody else. We have to rely on a 42 year old, 43 year old quarterback to let you know when he wants to come back and let you know if he's going to come back.
Ocho (Co-host)
And if he does come back, what, you got it for another year and all you did is Kick. All you did was kick the can down the road and you're gonna be right up and address the issue, which is finding your long term quarterback for the future.
Joe (Host)
Yep.
Ocho (Co-host)
All you did was delay it. It's like, hey, hey, man, look here. This tire. Well, we can patch it. They don't even patch tires anymore.
Unk (Co-host)
But hey, they put a little donut on.
Ocho (Co-host)
He did a little donut. The donut tie. The little donut tie. They say drive at a slow rate of speed and you probably got 50, 60 miles of distance in it. And then you see people drive around
Unk (Co-host)
two, three weeks on that tire and then it was.
Ocho (Co-host)
And when it put them downside the road, well, I don't know what happened. Well, what happened was this was a temporary fix.
Unk (Co-host)
Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host)
No matter how great Aaron Rodgers was, and he was great. He was historically great.
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Ocho (Co-host)
Yeah.
Joe (Host)
You.
Unk (Co-host)
He is a temporary fix for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Ocho (Co-host)
And if somebody sees him as anything other than that, they're sadly mistaken. If the Steelers. But I don't know why and because I don't know why teams are so afraid. You got to. I mean, especially when the quarterback get to like year 15. Ocho.
Joe (Host)
Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host)
Come on now, man. We got to have, we got, you got to have. Start having serious discussions. Right. About the future.
Joe (Host)
There's really nothing to talk about. There's no discussion to be had starting.
Ocho (Co-host)
No, I'm talking about, I'm talking about as an organization.
Joe (Host)
Okay, Okay.
Ocho (Co-host)
I ain't discussing it with you.
Joe (Host)
Right.
Ocho (Co-host)
The hell. Hey, what is it? What decision your grandparents made that involved you?
Unk (Co-host)
This is what.
Ocho (Co-host)
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Unk (Co-host)
What you in on this?
Ocho (Co-host)
Oh, here's what we think about putting in the house.
Unk (Co-host)
Right?
Ocho (Co-host)
Grown ups don't make no. My grandpa used to always say, boy, don't brash it with a child. You tell the child what to do.
Joe (Host)
Do.
Ocho (Co-host)
So at a situation like that, I'm not informing Aaron Rodgers. Look, I would say.
Joe (Host)
Look,
Ocho (Co-host)
now, I will say this so we don't get him all blindsided because
Unk (Co-host)
you know, the most sensitive. The most sensitive players on a football field is a quarterback.
Joe (Host)
Always.
Unk (Co-host)
Okay, we're in agreement.
Joe (Host)
Always.
Unk (Co-host)
We're looking to draft the quarterback. How high is to determine whether or not somebody falls.
Ocho (Co-host)
But I say within the first three rounds, we're going to take a quarterback.
Unk (Co-host)
Boom.
Ocho (Co-host)
That's it. That's it.
Joe (Host)
You're gonna, you're gonna piss him off.
Ocho (Co-host)
That's all right. He'd be okay. He still want to cash them checks? Because guess what? You don't Imagine if Green.
Unk (Co-host)
If. If Green Bay didn't have a Jordan, Love how pissed off they would be.
Ocho (Co-host)
Look at the teams that. That waited. Look at. Look at what Miami did. Because they didn't have a succession plan with Danny. Yeah. And they didn't have a succession plan. And so everybody doesn't have a Green Bay situation. Where you go, Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers.
Unk (Co-host)
Jordan Love that.
Joe (Host)
That's. That's luck.
Ocho (Co-host)
But that's because the quarterback put them in a situation. They had no choice. They didn't have a choice. Ocho. Brett kept jockeying them around. Aaron Rodgers. Well, I'm thinking about retiring. I don't know. You know, I just want to be in a quiet, dark room.
Joe (Host)
Right.
Ocho (Co-host)
And I just, you know, so I. And so the team didn't have a choice.
Joe (Host)
They got tired of that.
Ocho (Co-host)
Yes.
Joe (Host)
And that's the only position. Depending on who you are. We could play them damn games like that.
Unk (Co-host)
Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host)
You ain't.
Unk (Co-host)
You ain't playing that game in no other position. They get you.
Ocho (Co-host)
They getting you up out of there. I don't care how great you are. Other than that guy. Yeah, that position. Not to say that he said guy. That guy. Cause first of all, you're gonna be that guy. To play those type of games. No, average guy ain't playing those type of games.
Unk (Co-host)
No.
Ocho (Co-host)
But to be that guy, you. And you know, you have the leeway.
Unk (Co-host)
You are. You are MVP or you've won mvp.
Ocho (Co-host)
So you're that level of quarterback. You get a lot of leeway. A lot of leeway that other players
Unk (Co-host)
and other positions don't get.
Ocho (Co-host)
No, but you. But I understood that.
Unk (Co-host)
I know that.
Joe (Host)
Like, I didn't take advantage of it.
Ocho (Co-host)
No.
Joe (Host)
I didn't take advantage of it.
Ocho (Co-host)
Quarterbacks have a privilege, and the star players have a privileges. And I'm like you. I didn't take advantage of it.
Joe (Host)
No.
Ocho (Co-host)
That's the whole point of being a leader is not taking advantage of the privilege that you've been given.
Joe (Host)
Oh, Aaron. Well, you know, you coming back, man. Because if he decides not to come back, oh, my goodness. Boy, they gonna. They gonna. They gonna be in a heap of trouble over there.
Ocho (Co-host)
Yeah, they're gonna be in a heap of trouble, but it's their own fault, because when they could have. When they could have did something about this, they saw Ben wasn't the same guy. He had taken too much punishment, and he's. He was starting to slow down. You saw it right before your eyes. But they're not to take him off. Okay. He's still happy with it. Ain't really replace me now look at you.
Joe (Host)
Dang.
Ocho (Co-host)
Pinning all your hopes on a 42
Unk (Co-host)
year old that probably by this is his last year.
Joe (Host)
Yeah, or you might try to keep hitting. You might try to keep hitting them one for ones because you have to think about it.
Ocho (Co-host)
No, I'm moving on. I'm moving on after this year. I've got to find me a long term fix.
Unk (Co-host)
Oo Where?
Joe (Host)
There's no. Where's the long term fix, huh?
Ocho (Co-host)
If I got to go into the Draft and Draft 1.
Joe (Host)
Man, I got me. I feel you, I feel you.
Ocho (Co-host)
So what? Just keep going. So just keep going. These one year deals with Aaron Rodgers and not getting the future and then when he, when he decides to retire, what about. Where am I?
Joe (Host)
Hey you, you, you, you find that successor now you go into the draft, you can.
Ocho (Co-host)
That's what I'm saying.
Joe (Host)
Yeah, but ain't ain't nothing franchise quarterback, have we seen anything like that?
Ocho (Co-host)
Look, just because I, you don't think a guy right now looks like that? Oo I got to try, right?
Joe (Host)
You seen Aaron Rogers at Cal?
Ocho (Co-host)
Yes, he looked like that.
Joe (Host)
You seen Pat Mahomes at Texas Tech? He looked like that.
Unk (Co-host)
Let me ask you a question.
Ocho (Co-host)
If they'd have brought Aaron Rodgers in right away immediately and played him, how
Unk (Co-host)
you think he looking?
Joe (Host)
Nah, it's a good thing he sat behind Brett.
Ocho (Co-host)
Exactly.
Unk (Co-host)
And my homeboy, my homeboy was.
Ocho (Co-host)
Sometimes it's great to come in and get a bird's eye view and see how people do think how, how that position is played, how you're supposed to play the position. And who know, maybe Aaron Rodgers is still that guy. But I think he benefited from having an opportunity to sit behind Brett Farr
Unk (Co-host)
for three years and learn.
Ocho (Co-host)
I think my homeboy had an opportunity to sit behind Alex Smith for a year and learn. Some guys, hey, they get to sit. Carson got to sit.
Joe (Host)
Yeah, but they making too much money now. They letting, they not letting. Yeah, the rookies are making too much money. Especially if you draft them high and anything pick one through five is not sitting. We, we paying you what, 30, 35, probably 40.
Ocho (Co-host)
But you got to hide you probably 40, 40, 40 plus million dollars be
Joe (Host)
guaranteed they throwing your ass out there to the sharks. You better figure it out because I'm paying you money. Not sit down and sit behind a veteran quarterback. Absolutely not.
Unk (Co-host)
Yeah, you're right, you're right. And it's ruining them because you saw they did Anthony Richardson.
Ocho (Co-host)
Oh yeah, he was a top five pick.
Unk (Co-host)
You Said he was a project.
Ocho (Co-host)
And instead of developing that project, building that project up with a strong foundation,
Unk (Co-host)
you threw him out there. Yeah.
Joe (Host)
There's no patience, huh? They want instant gratification. These owners and GMs want instant gratification and instant success right away. Especially if we pick you high. You the person supposed to change our franchise. That's why we went and got you. You are answer. You are our future. You are our ten year future. We don't have to worry about any position we're supposed to build around you. That's basically what it means.
Unk (Co-host)
It does. But have you set me up for success? What do you look like from an offensive line standpoint? What do my receivers look like from a receiver standpoint? What is the system, are the coaches,
Ocho (Co-host)
have you set me up?
Unk (Co-host)
Success with the structure in which I'm going to be in most of the time? No.
Joe (Host)
Right?
Ocho (Co-host)
No.
Unk (Co-host)
They just think guys are supposed to come in.
Ocho (Co-host)
Everybody, everybody ain't Andrew Reed. Everybody doesn't. Everybody doesn't. Because in order to do things, some things you have to have solid footing. Kyle Shanahan, how many quarterbacks you think could have made that? And you give up all those draft
Unk (Co-host)
picks for the number three pick in
Ocho (Co-host)
the draft and he gone after a year for Trey.
Joe (Host)
Oh, Trey Lance. Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host)
So you got to have strong footing
Unk (Co-host)
in order to do that. Right?
Ocho (Co-host)
I mean, think about it. You take, you got Alex Smith wins the playoff game and then you like, you know what? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Unk (Co-host)
We, we, we, we take it a quarter.
Ocho (Co-host)
We, I mean, Alex Mitchell played well, but Andy just felt this offense could
Unk (Co-host)
be so much more dynamic if I had a stronger arm quarterback. And those are the decisions that you have to make.
Ocho (Co-host)
See, it's not that. It's a lot of times it's the
Unk (Co-host)
decision, those decisions that really define gm, head, coaches and things like that. It's the tough decision, right?
Ocho (Co-host)
You winning, Ocho, you're like, man, hey, we winning, we winning 10, 11 games a year. But there's something that's deep inside of
Unk (Co-host)
you saying we can be so much more, though.
Ocho (Co-host)
And seven, seven AFC Championship games later, five super bowl appearances later, three wins
Unk (Co-host)
later, it's hard to argue. It's hard to argue. And so we'll see what they do.
Ocho (Co-host)
But I, I think they have to. I, I, I think, I think the
Unk (Co-host)
Steelers are going to have to get a quarterback now.
Ocho (Co-host)
Maybe, maybe you're right.
Unk (Co-host)
Maybe, maybe they believe in Will Howard, but they believe in Cody Pickett and they believed in Mason rudolph. Okay.
Ocho (Co-host)
With A.J.
Unk (Co-host)
brown future uncertain, the Philadelphia Eagles had added to the receiving corps ahead of the 2026 draft.
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Ocho (Co-host)
Nah, I'm just kidding.
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Unk (Co-host)
Eagles are sending Green Bay Packers a
Ocho (Co-host)
2026 fifth round pick and a 2027
Unk (Co-host)
third round sixth round pick in exchange for Donter Dante Wicks.
Ocho (Co-host)
Wicks, who's signing, who's going into the
Unk (Co-host)
final year of his rookie contract, will reportedly sign the one year contract extension for $12.5 million. Wicks, 25, with a fifth round draft pick in 2023 draft during his three season with the Green Bay Packers, Wick
Ocho (Co-host)
has caught 108 passes on 180 targets,
Unk (Co-host)
1328 yards, 11 touchdowns. It averages 12.3 yards per catch.
Joe (Host)
I mean, the writing is on the wall. Can we see it now? Huh?
Unk (Co-host)
Maybe it's in hieroglyphics.
Joe (Host)
The writing is on the wall. I mean it's been that way. It's been that way. And I said it last year, I said it during the season. I said it in the offseason. Anytime we do talk about it, you know the Eagles are planning to make a move and there's a certain situation that's going on and people are talking about integrity and talk about ethics and talk about this person. I mean, blah, blah, blah. Man, listen, nobody moves the needle or make decisions outside of the GM and the owner. They are not influenced by anybody else out there.
Ocho (Co-host)
You and OO talking about it. You and this person talking about it.
Unk (Co-host)
Yes.
Ocho (Co-host)
The media, man. You think the Monas give a damn? But the media say they don't care. They. They don't care what me, Ocho, what anybody say they gonna do, what they gonna do.
Joe (Host)
Always. Always. I mean, we, I mean, we talk about franchise, we talk about billion dollar entities. You really think anyone outside of that has influence on their decision making? Like, come on, let's, let's be serious people. Come on.
Ocho (Co-host)
They don't even let the players that's playing for them influence what the hell they doing. How they gonna let somebody outside the building that's not even inside the building it influence it?
Joe (Host)
Come on, now. But. But outside of that, you. I mean, it's been enough. I think it's time to move on. I think AJ doesn't want to be there. We've seen enough. Enough of that. He was frustrated this, this season.
Unk (Co-host)
The second year in a row he was frustrated even after he won the super bowl. And he was frustrated.
Ocho (Co-host)
So he's even frustrated, more frustrated now because guess what? He see what those guys doing?
Joe (Host)
Oh, yeah.
Ocho (Co-host)
He said, chase, don't miss a beat. He said, jsn don't. Come on. Now. Look at Puka man, devonte Adams come over there to a whole new team.
Joe (Host)
Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host)
And lead the league in touchdown passing. All. Somehow, all these great guys, these coordinators can find ways and their quarterback can find ways. I call a play and they can
Unk (Co-host)
get me the ball.
Ocho (Co-host)
Somehow here we still haven't found a way to consistently get me the ball. Now, I ain't putting it on nobody. I'm not saying it's the coordinator. I'm not saying it's quarterback. But all I do know is that I play a dependent position and I'm dependent on my quarterback and my coordinator
Unk (Co-host)
putting me in the situation and the
Ocho (Co-host)
other guy throwing me the ball. And I bet, damn if we can't do that consistently.
Joe (Host)
Yeah, I mean, I, I understand. He was, I mean, frustrated, frustrated, frustrated. Year before that. He was reading the book to keep himself calm, keep himself relaxed. So he didn't this year. I mean, same thing again. So that's two years in a row. You think he going to sit around for a third year of the same. Absolutely not.
Unk (Co-host)
It got so bad.
Joe (Host)
Absolutely not.
Unk (Co-host)
The owner had a conversation with him
Ocho (Co-host)
and people like to say that. And that got out. Had it not gotten out, how would you have known that Jeffrey, Lori and AJ Had a conversation?
Joe (Host)
Somebody always leaking it, huh?
Ocho (Co-host)
Of course. But it had gotten to the point
Unk (Co-host)
that Mr. Laurie didn't. It was. Didn't felt some type of way about it. Probably said, you know what, Aja, let's try to make the both the best of this situation.
Ocho (Co-host)
What we have currently.
Unk (Co-host)
I understand your first frustrations, how he's
Ocho (Co-host)
explained it to me, X, Y, and Z.
Unk (Co-host)
You don't know no plays.
Ocho (Co-host)
But anyway, how. How he's explained it to me.
Joe (Host)
Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host)
And let's try to make the most of this season, and then after the
Unk (Co-host)
year, we'll try to make a decision that works both. That works best for both of us. Yeah.
Joe (Host)
I think this is the second move I think they've made at the receiver position, if I'm not mistaken. Even with AJ Brown not there, I think they'll be able to make up for some of the production, maybe not all of it, but the Eagles will still be a dominant team. They. They still in. In the NFC East. Wait, no. That is nfcs, ain't it?
Ocho (Co-host)
Nfcs, yeah. Dallas, Washington.
Unk (Co-host)
And the Eagles.
Joe (Host)
Eagles, yeah. They. They still. They still gonna make their heads. They still gonna do what they want to do. But, I mean, A.J. brown and he just. He just. He needs a new. A change of scenery. I said long ago, before, although, you know, what was going on. I said it would be the Patriots. I said it would be variable because of the situation in the. The relationship that they had when he was in. In Tennessee. So it just made the most sense him going to New England. So, hey, we'll see what happens. June 1st. Or is it June 20th?
Unk (Co-host)
June 1st.
Joe (Host)
Yeah, June 1st.
Unk (Co-host)
That way you can spread it out over two years.
Joe (Host)
Yes.
Unk (Co-host)
Not as significant as it is.
Joe (Host)
Right?
Unk (Co-host)
Yeah. So I. Look, I. I just think the thing is, Ocho, you. We've been talking about it.
Ocho (Co-host)
I just think everybody. Everybody's just want to just move on, want a fresh start.
Joe (Host)
Mm.
Ocho (Co-host)
It's okay. There are irreconcilable differences, and we choose
Unk (Co-host)
to par on amicable terms.
Joe (Host)
Yeah, not a bad thing.
Ocho (Co-host)
Irreconcilable differences, and the split is amicable.
Joe (Host)
I don't know. Them boys good, though, man. Them boys good.
Ocho (Co-host)
I ain't happy. Have you seen the situation? Oh, Char, I'm telling you. How have. Have we seen men and women in a situation? They got everything fly private, and you got diamonds, and you get cars, you get xyz, and I'm just not happy.
Joe (Host)
Yeah. It happens, all that.
Ocho (Co-host)
At the end of the day, what about my happiness? I'm. I mean, hey, no crying from the yacht. But hey, some people,
Joe (Host)
It happens. You can get it. You can get everything you asked for, and it's still not enough.
Ocho (Co-host)
Not enough.
Joe (Host)
Fly, eagles, fly. I don't know the rest of the song, but I love that.
Ocho (Co-host)
I just. I just. I just won't look.
Unk (Co-host)
I just hope AJ gets somewhere he could be. They give him an opportunity to play like he thinks he can play and then go. Go from there. Because right now he's not happy. No.
Ocho (Co-host)
And I don't think.
Unk (Co-host)
I don't think he's the best he can be. It's. And it's hard to be when you don't know. I mean, you go from one game,
Ocho (Co-host)
you might catch nine. The next ball, you might get three
Unk (Co-host)
balls thrown at you and catch one. It's hard to play like that.
Ocho (Co-host)
It's time to play. A fade presented by prize picks. Miles Bridges. Excuse me. The Knicks play the Charlotte, the Hornets tomorrow. Miles Bridges will have 0.53 points. So he'll make one. That means he'll make or he'll attempt.
Unk (Co-host)
I'm going more. He gonna make one, then he gonna make one because they shoot.
Ocho (Co-host)
They shoot 50 a game. So mellow. Gonna get his canippus. Gonna get his. The. The guy that you like from a Alabama. Gonna get his. Miles Bridges.
Unk (Co-host)
Gonna go. Gonna get one.
Ocho (Co-host)
All right.
Unk (Co-host)
Indiana, Detroit, Aur Thompson, four and a half rebounds.
Joe (Host)
Four and a half? Four and a half sounds so goddamn easy. It sound easy
Unk (Co-host)
More. The Lakers in Utah. Deandre Ayton, under seven rebounds. Lord, have a he. I don't know. I don't know what a d. I don't know what. Aiden, I'm gonna get.
Joe (Host)
Hey, well, hell, you. You know what, Aiden? You gonna get. He ain't got no choice but to but insert himself.
Ocho (Co-host)
Insert himself and do what?
Joe (Host)
Everybody hurt, huh? Crash the glass.
Unk (Co-host)
You gonna cause me to crash out tomorrow? Probably what he gonna cause me to do. That's the only crash that's gonna happen. Should I go more or less than 7?
Ocho (Co-host)
How many rebounds he have last game against Phoenix?
Unk (Co-host)
I might have to go more. I might need to give, you know, give him a jump again. Oh, Lord have mercy.
Ocho (Co-host)
A man played 20 minutes, didn't he? I think he played like 24 minutes.
Unk (Co-host)
Yeah, we going low. We going less.
Joe (Host)
You going. You going less?
Ocho (Co-host)
Yeah, man.
Unk (Co-host)
Yeah, we going less. Oh.
Ocho (Co-host)
Last two games, 31 minutes, five rebounds.
Unk (Co-host)
Both game. LeBron James points, rebounds and assists more than 43.
Joe (Host)
43. Oh, you mean all together.
Ocho (Co-host)
All together, yes. Yeah. I don't know. Did you see him? Did you see him? Have you seen him since Luke and AR been out?
Joe (Host)
Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host)
Averaging 20. Averaging 28. 12 and 8. 28 points, 12 assists, 8 rebounds.
Joe (Host)
I mean, it's expected. I mean, it's LeBron.
Unk (Co-host)
Oh, Joe, you realize he 41, right?
Joe (Host)
Yeah, yeah, he 40. I mean, but it's still LeBron and Father Time. Father Time hasn't caught up yet.
Ocho (Co-host)
Now, we have been posing him right now though, Ocho, but plus you got
Unk (Co-host)
to realize he has the ball. He has the ball in his hand. His left arm, right?
Joe (Host)
Wait. Oh, is. Wait. Huh?
Unk (Co-host)
Is it his left arm?
Ocho (Co-host)
The Heisman guy got the ball in
Unk (Co-host)
his left arm and he do it like this.
Joe (Host)
Oh, my bad. Oh, no. I ain't never win it.
Ocho (Co-host)
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Unk (Co-host)
Prize picks. It's good to be right.
Ocho (Co-host)
O' Shea Jackson Junior.
Unk (Co-host)
Which is there's O' Shea Jackson Senior.
Ocho (Co-host)
His name happens to be Ice Cube. So Ice Cube son isn't letting anyone
Unk (Co-host)
diss his dad post 1990 movies. Cube namesake came to his father's defense on Twitter when someone wrote no offense.
Ocho (Co-host)
But why hasn't your dad been in a good movie since the 90s? Like straight garbage since the 90.
Unk (Co-host)
This is what Junior said. I could say jump. The 21 Jump street series. I like 21 Jump street all about the Benjamins.
Ocho (Co-host)
Good.
Unk (Co-host)
Fist fight, Lottery ticket.
Ocho (Co-host)
Not good.
Unk (Co-host)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Ocho (Co-host)
Not good.
Unk (Co-host)
It's been four franchises since 2000. Began Barbershop Trilogy. Are we done yet? The sequel. TV show Ride Along.
Ocho (Co-host)
It looks like Ride along is getting done again with Ice Cube and Kevin Hart.
Unk (Co-host)
Yeah, two more Fridays.
Ocho (Co-host)
Technically, it's five.
Unk (Co-host)
You know, we're not going through this, man.
Ocho (Co-host)
We're not gonna let y' all do this to Cube. He don't do it to either eat, man.
Unk (Co-host)
Look. No, no, thank you.
Joe (Host)
Hey, Q. Hold on. Cuban been in some good movies, huh?
Ocho (Co-host)
Yes.
Joe (Host)
You know, he done had to show his range. You know, he can get serious. You know, I'm not. I'm not sure. Somebody being goddamn picky.
Ocho (Co-host)
Yo.
Unk (Co-host)
Somebody tried to rage bait. Because when you look at.
Ocho (Co-host)
Look at it like, I don't know. I love barbershop.
Joe (Host)
Barbershop. Funny as hell, man.
Ocho (Co-host)
I like Eddie. I like Eddie. Anybody?
Unk (Co-host)
Guy, Are we done yet?
Joe (Host)
Are. Are we done? It was good with the kids.
Ocho (Co-host)
Nice little ride Along.
Joe (Host)
Hey, right along. Hilarious Kevin Hart crazy ass again.
Ocho (Co-host)
21 Drum street was good.
Joe (Host)
I didn't see that. I didn't see 21 Jump street with.
Ocho (Co-host)
I think it was in that. Which ain't that one with Channing Tat, I think. So. What else we got this Fridays?
Joe (Host)
Friday. Hey, Friday. Friday's iconic. Friday is a movie that you can watch no matter where you see it. If you catch it on tv, you watch him from right there at that spot. Friday's up there with Boys in the Hood.
Ocho (Co-host)
Oh, the first Friday is a classic. It's got to be in your rotation.
Joe (Host)
Easily.
Ocho (Co-host)
Easily Got to be in your rotation. I don't care if I'm flipping the channels and I see Friday. If I'm sleeping the channel, I see Harlem nights. If I'm flipping the channels, I see life. I ain't going no further.
Unk (Co-host)
And I'm gonna watch it.
Joe (Host)
Oh, yeah.
Ocho (Co-host)
Every time.
Unk (Co-host)
So, hey, Junior pops on this thing. Don't worry about that, bro. Don't even worry about that because, you know, you know how they be doing, man. They'll be trying to get you. They trying to get you raging and don't fall for it.
Ocho (Co-host)
Now it's time for our final segment of the evening. Ocho, it's time for Q and A.
Unk (Co-host)
Yeah, ice Cube wasn't 21 Jump Street.
Ocho (Co-host)
All right, before we get to our super chat, we got five video voicemails.
Unk (Co-host)
Let's take a listen from our discord. Let's take a listen at the first one.
Discord Caller
What's going on, Nightcap family, Ocho Joe. My one question to y' all is, who do y' all think would be a sleeper in the draft at the wide receiver position? My. My personal opinion, I think a guy like Deion Burks, you know, a gadget guy that can play multiple positions, I think he'll be a sleeper in the draft. Just all depends on where he goes. But he'll be somebody like how Wandell was. My boy Wondell, you know, my boy Rondell. Guys who can get the ball in space and get it quick, you know, on bubble screens and intermediate shorter routes. You know, the drag routes and the crossing routes. But who do y' all think will be a sleeper in this draft at the wide receiver position? Because that's the. That's the position I like the most every year.
Unk (Co-host)
I like the little kid from Georgia.
Ocho (Co-host)
I think he ran like, four, three, Ocho. And you know, Georgia receivers, they're better in the league than they are in college.
Joe (Host)
Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host)
Cause their offense in college is really simplistic. If you look at lad McConkey, you look at pick. You look at a lot of these guys that, that, that. That come out of Georgia, and you look at them once they get to
Unk (Co-host)
the league, and look how they flourish.
Ocho (Co-host)
So I like to. I like the little. I like the little kid that from Georgia. I think it's Branch. I think his last name is Branch. I'm not sure, but I like him.
Joe (Host)
For me, probably Casey couldn't Conception.
Ocho (Co-host)
Okay.
Unk (Co-host)
Texas A Neo.
Joe (Host)
Yeah, I. I think it all comes down to where you go. All the receivers are good. They're good. They're not great. They don't. They don't. They don't pop out. It's not your Jamar Chase. It's not your Justin Jefferson type receivers. So situations matter most, you know, for these players, I mean, where they will go for them to be able to flourish. I think in the right system, there can be a jewel. There can be a gym that can surprise a lot of people, especially depending on how fast they learn and past that learning curve.
Ocho (Co-host)
Okay, here's our second one.
Unk (Co-host)
Let's take a listen.
Joe (Host)
What that say?
Unk (Co-host)
He in Glenville, Georgia. NFL great. Sterling shadow and sterling shark.
Ocho (Co-host)
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
Joe (Host)
That was dope.
Ocho (Co-host)
Yeah. You ain't got one in Liberty City, do you?
Joe (Host)
I do my. I'm getting my. I'm getting my name.
Ocho (Co-host)
You can't put it up there your damn self, though.
Joe (Host)
No, no, I ain't gonna put it up there. You'll see.
Ocho (Co-host)
It's coming.
Joe (Host)
It's coming. I mean, matter of fact, that when we do do that, we need to have nightcap there live.
Unk (Co-host)
Oh, Lord have mercy.
Joe (Host)
Yeah, that's gonna be nice.
Ocho (Co-host)
Here's our third one.
Unk (Co-host)
Let's take a listen.
Discord Caller
Ocho. ISO, man, y' all keep up the good work. When y' all gonna have time back on there? He. I always go watch that video again when he said he was at a party. Y' all tripping out that whole episode. Ocho, this is a video, or could be when y' all talk about Khabib. It's a video. Khabib wrestling a bear when he was like 5 years old and ice. So I work for FedEx, so I see the. The post office trucks all the time. The new ones that you're referring to the damn windshield about 7 foot tall on there. Look like the alien head of aliens. But y' all keep
Unk (Co-host)
appreciate it.
Ocho (Co-host)
That's exactly what I thought when I saw it today. I like What? Damn. I think. Look at that. Look like mar that Marvin the Martian
Unk (Co-host)
windshield big ass helmet.
Ocho (Co-host)
All right, here it is. Number four.
Unk (Co-host)
Let's take a listen.
Discord Caller
Yo, what's up, Nightcap? What's up? What's up, Ocho? What's up? I sold Joe. I just want to say, man, y' all are, like, wonderful, bro. I've been watching Unc since he did, like, Undisputed, since he did the little episode of him eating, like, raccoon and stuff. So, man, I just want to say, man, y' all are, like, doing something, like, phenomenal, not only for, like, our, like, young generation, but for older people as well. But my one question for Uncle Ocho and for ISO Joe will be, what do y' all think about the Lane Kiffin and the Pete golden matchup? Week two of this upcoming college football season here in Oxford, Mississippi, with Lane Kiffin going to LSU and Pete golden being the new Ole Miss head coach. I just want to hear y' all thoughts w Nightcap, man, and keep doing what y' all guys doing. Love y'.
Joe (Host)
All.
Unk (Co-host)
Appreciate you. Look, anytime a coach leaves and leave how Lane left, there's going to be some tensions.
Ocho (Co-host)
It didn't seem to me that the players are going to miss Lane because they were very, very supportive of Pete Golden. Pete Golding is always going to be
Unk (Co-host)
appreciative of what Lane did. Gave him an opportunity. But Pete going to try. They're gonna try to put belt ass.
Ocho (Co-host)
Chambers are coming back.
Unk (Co-host)
He appealed to the Mississippi Supreme Court,
Ocho (Co-host)
so he's gonna get a sixth season. He's either used it. Look, I use this little three, four
Unk (Co-host)
million dollars that I'm gonna pick up. Not a little, but anyway. I'm just, you know, make a lot of situation. But that's gonna be a great game
Ocho (Co-host)
because that might be the inside track
Unk (Co-host)
of, you know, who's gonna get one of those. Those playoffs playoff birds or give them
Ocho (Co-host)
the inside track O4. Guess what? The SEC.
Joe (Host)
See, that's gonna be dope. That's gonna be a really good game. I mean, if there was any bad blood, it show it. It is now.
Ocho (Co-host)
Yeah, because you hear the reports that Ole Miss had to say. Had to say, you know, was willing
Unk (Co-host)
to go to what? LSU. But, you know, they made promise.
Ocho (Co-host)
LSU's like, look, we got 20, 25 million.
Unk (Co-host)
We gonna get you X, Y and Z. We're gonna be bring the coaches into
Ocho (Co-host)
whatever you want to do.
Unk (Co-host)
And so.
Ocho (Co-host)
But I think I clearly, for whatever
Unk (Co-host)
reason, Lane, I mean, you got to
Ocho (Co-host)
the college football playoffs, so it's not like you're devoid of talent at Ole Miss. Now, are you going to consistently get the level of talent at Ole Miss
Unk (Co-host)
that you get at lsu? No, no, no, no.
Ocho (Co-host)
But we'll find out. That's gonna be. That's gonna be a game I can't wait to. I can't wait to watch it. Here's our fifth and final one.
Unk (Co-host)
Let's take a listen.
Discord Caller
What's up? Nightcap? Family sending love from England. My name is Bonds. I have a couple questions for you guys. Unk I want to ask you. From the uk we don't watch a lot of American football. If I was trying to get into it, how would you recommend me starting? Because the rules and the stops, the plays don't make much sense to me. Question about boxing for Ocho. Ocho, what is the most controversial or worst decision made in boxing? Is it GGG vs Canelo 2 or 1? What is your opinion on that? And another question for ISO, Joe or Ankh? Who would you Compare Steph Curry, LeBron James, Kyrie Irving to in the NFL? What would you. What would be their comparison? Let me know. Again, appreciate you guys for keeping us entertained. I've been watching you guys for a while, since your inception.
Ocho (Co-host)
Really?
Joe (Host)
You know what?
Ocho (Co-host)
It all depends on what position you want to play. I don't know what you play, but if you knew what you played or how much you weighed or how tall you were, I can tell you what position I think you're suited for. Being all honest. I mean, you look like you're fairly big guy. So I'm gonna go. I'm gonna say Ocho, probably offensive. Defensive line. Yeah. And defensive line is a lot easier to play than offensive line because guess what? Go get the man with the football. Whoever has the man with whoever has the football, go tackle him.
Unk (Co-host)
Simple.
Ocho (Co-host)
You see, you're here, you got a guy line up in front of you. Now, either the quarterback's gonna have the ball and he's trying to throw it to somebody down the field, or he's gonna hand the ball out to that guy. Whichever the case may be, if the quarterback has the ball, go knock hell out of him. If the running back has the ball, go knock hell out of him. Now, if you're an offensive lineman, you see that guy that I just told you you were just trying to knock the hell out of? Your job is to protect them. Whether he's the quarterback or the running back. Your job is not let the guy knock hell out of either one of them. So for me, I Think defense is. Is a little easier to play because
Unk (Co-host)
of, you know,
Ocho (Co-host)
defensive lineman.
Unk (Co-host)
Go get the quarterback. Offensive line, you got a lot of checks.
Ocho (Co-host)
It might be a combination block, it might be a slip block. You know, it might pull.
Unk (Co-host)
You know, you might change the line. Protection.
Ocho (Co-host)
Ocho, Liz, we going left. No, no, rip that, rip that. Now we going right. So me, I would say probably defense.
Joe (Host)
Yeah. And that boxing question, that's a really good one. On. On decisions that could have. That could have gone either way. I don't remember exactly which fight it was with Triple G and Canelo. I don't know if it was one or two where I think Triple G actually won that fight. I give you one even better, Floyd method. Floyd Mayweather Jr. When he fought Jose Luis Castillo. I'm not sure if you remember that in 2002. Listen, that fight was so goddamn good and could have gone either goddamn way. And God damn, it was one more. I had it on. I had it on tip of my tongue. That was very, very controversial. Oh, my goodness. Oh. When Canelo fought Edith Leah's Laundry. Laura, I don't know how to say this. You know, Laura, you know what I'm talking about, right? When, When Canelo fought Laura, if you go back and watch that fight, I don't know what the judge was looking at. That is also another fight that Canelo could have lost when he fought Laura. And that, that, those, those are my three.
Ocho (Co-host)
I was thinking
Unk (Co-host)
Mildrick Taylor and. And Julio Chavez Senior. When, When Richard Steele stopped the damn fight,
Ocho (Co-host)
man. Man, they, they, they robbed.
Unk (Co-host)
They, they robbed him.
Joe (Host)
Yeah.
Unk (Co-host)
That's all I'm gonna say. They robbed it.
Ocho (Co-host)
J from Akron.
Unk (Co-host)
Hey, Unc, I've been slacking. About to roll with you down to the 240s. What's their goal date?
Ocho (Co-host)
Man, they sent me back.
Unk (Co-host)
They sent me back.
Ocho (Co-host)
Oh, George, thank you, Slick. Join me. Getting up.
Unk (Co-host)
Going, going, going to the gym.
Ocho (Co-host)
I will have him close the gym on until if he's not allowed in
Unk (Co-host)
there or charge him 100 for a day pass. My birthday, June 26th.
Ocho (Co-host)
I'm be down,
Unk (Co-host)
be down.
Ocho (Co-host)
I'll be down.
Joe (Host)
Hey, aren't we about the same size? Huh?
Ocho (Co-host)
Y' all see that?
Joe (Host)
We about to. We about the same size.
Unk (Co-host)
Matching. Look at that. Y' all end up seeing that.
Joe (Host)
What'd that say, Nick?
Unk (Co-host)
Incredible Hulk.
Joe (Host)
Oh, that's a hook. Boy, this goddamn eye ain't doing me no good.
Ocho (Co-host)
Murky eye. Oh, Joe. What.
Unk (Co-host)
What's a decision you made in your career that you.
Ocho (Co-host)
That looked like a mistake at the
Unk (Co-host)
time, but actually shaped you into who you are today.
Joe (Host)
Oh, that's a good one. Mistake.
Ocho (Co-host)
Damn good one.
Joe (Host)
What? It looked like a mistake. Hell, it was a mistake. And it shaped me for the player I am. I, I, I, I. I turned out to be. Maybe not off the field, but that got. Hey. I dropped that goddamn ball on fourth down against the Indianapolis Colts. I think it might have been 2002, maybe 2001. No, 2002. But I dropped the ball to keep the drive going to give us a chance to actually win the game. So ain't no telling what would have happened if I caught the ball. I turned the ball over, I dropped the ball. Boy, from that point on, boy, I. I hadn't dropped. I hadn't dropped a ball in a very long time. And I told myself, I will never be responsible for being the reason we lose another game.
Ocho (Co-host)
Oh.
Joe (Host)
Oh, my goodness, that hurts.
Unk (Co-host)
In my career, having kids out of wedlock.
Joe (Host)
Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host)
Because it puts you in a frame of mind.
Unk (Co-host)
Because now, Ocho, I ain't just responsible for Shannon anymore. Got mouth to feed. I got people. I got real.
Ocho (Co-host)
I got.
Unk (Co-host)
Now I got somebody that I'm literally responsible for that I.
Ocho (Co-host)
That didn't ask to come.
Joe (Host)
Right.
Ocho (Co-host)
That I helped create them and bring them into a situation they didn't ask to be in.
Unk (Co-host)
Right.
Ocho (Co-host)
Man, you talking about locking in.
Joe (Host)
Yeah. You had no choice.
Ocho (Co-host)
I did.
Unk (Co-host)
No, Joe.
Joe (Host)
Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host)
Because I already got responsibility. I got, you know, my grandma, my sister, my mom. But now I got. I got really namesakes.
Joe (Host)
It's like, damn, man, how to.
Ocho (Co-host)
How did I get myself into this?
Joe (Host)
Right?
Ocho (Co-host)
And then how did I get myself into this this many times? What the hell?
Joe (Host)
I. I know how.
Unk (Co-host)
But it was the. It was the best decision, Ocho, because
Ocho (Co-host)
I don't know how many of your kids got an opportunity to see you play.
Joe (Host)
All of them. Except obviously the. The last three didn't. Yeah, they was there front and center.
Unk (Co-host)
See, that's the thing. All my kids got an opportunity to see me play. They got to see everything. They got to go to Super Bowls. They got to. To be a part of it, you know? So who. Responsibility, man? Responsibility, man, kids make you grow up real fast.
Ocho (Co-host)
Even if you're not ready to grow up, you.
Joe (Host)
You ain't got no choice.
Ocho (Co-host)
Have some kids.
Unk (Co-host)
What's up, Uncle?
Ocho (Co-host)
No joke.
Unk (Co-host)
Y' all wish my mom, Anita Delbridge, a speedy recovery. She's recently had a knee replaced. Thanks a lot, Michaela and Jacori. Absolutely, Anita. Speedy recovery.
Joe (Host)
Happy birthday.
Ocho (Co-host)
From what I've heard from What I've
Unk (Co-host)
heard the first three to four weeks. So the first three to four weeks of the knee is that it's gonna
Ocho (Co-host)
be painful, but you gotta get that
Unk (Co-host)
range of motion because that's the one thing. Because it's different than hips. Now I've heard I've had hips bilateral. Both my replaced, they say hips are easy and it was. But they say that knee. So you're gonna have to stay on
Ocho (Co-host)
top of it, Anita. Cause hey, gotta get you back out there. Hey, quality, quality of life being able
Unk (Co-host)
to go and do things with the
Ocho (Co-host)
grands and do things with the kids. So we got to get that knee healthy and strong.
Unk (Co-host)
So happy birthday. Enjoy this very, very special recovery. She didn't want no birthday.
Ocho (Co-host)
She had no birthday.
Unk (Co-host)
I told Georgia.
Joe (Host)
Oh, my bad.
Unk (Co-host)
A speedy recovery. But hey, the first three to four
Ocho (Co-host)
weeks, bite down, grit down.
Unk (Co-host)
Hey, and get this thing done. And you know what? I might be having to join you here in the next six to seven months. I need to get mine and get mine done. But hey, you, in the meantime, keep your head up. Speedy recovery. And hey, thank you guys for watching.
Ocho (Co-host)
Roger Ward six.
Unk (Co-host)
Hey, uncanocho.
Ocho (Co-host)
Do you guys think it's better to be a boxer that can fight or a fighter that can box?
Unk (Co-host)
Congrats on 2 million. Love the show. Ocho.
Ocho (Co-host)
What is it better?
Joe (Host)
Boy, you gotta. You gotta have a little bit of both, huh? Depending on who you fight. Because if you. If you get in there, if you're a boxer, you get enough with a pressure fighter that's constantly pressuring you, boxing ain't gonna work. He's going to force you to fight. He's gonna force you to fight. So it's good to have a little bit of both. Or you. You'll be overwhelmed. And all you taking them goddamn deep waters. If you can't fight, then you're gonna outbox somebody. Man. That's not gonna happen. That ain't gonna happen.
Unk (Co-host)
Hey, Quinn.
Ocho (Co-host)
S.B.
Unk (Co-host)
hey, Ocho. Wish my woman happy 37th birthday. Jill. Quinn, this is. This will really make her day when she sees this.
Joe (Host)
Absolutely.
Unk (Co-host)
Jill, happy three seven.
Joe (Host)
Happy birthday to you happy 37 times around the sun to you Happy birthday dear Jill who went up the hill Happy birthday to you yeah, Jill, hopefully
Unk (Co-host)
you had a very, very blessed day. Hopefully you
Ocho (Co-host)
quit.
Unk (Co-host)
I. Hopefully you did something special for your lady. But sometimes I think we don't really appreciate know how lucky we are to see another day that we woke up this morning we were in our right mind. We had use of our limbs and the blood Was still running warm in our veins because somebody had an appointment they couldn't reschedule. Somebody didn't get. Not going to get an opportunity to see their birthday. But, Jill, you are very, very special that the man allowed you to open your eyes and know that you have someone that loves you and cares about you, that wanted to share this special day with you. And hopefully you guys did something fun. You went, probably got breakfast, got lunch at dinner, maybe took you out for a great dinner, birthday dinner. But I want to thank you guys for supporting Nightcap sending in questions like this. And Jill, hopefully you had the very best birthday that you've had on this earth. Happy 37th, Jill. Sean, underscore Shore, show up North Carolina a sleep on basketball state. We got M.J. worthy, Dominique Curry, CP3, Wall Stackhouse. Put some respect on North Carolina. Curry was born in Ohio, same hospital as LeBron James, so y' all can't claim him.
Ocho (Co-host)
But the mother three. Yeah.
Unk (Co-host)
M.J. worthy, neat. All in the hall of Fame. Curry gonna be in the hall of fame. CP3 gonna be in the hall of Fame.
Ocho (Co-host)
Nah, North Carolina is a state that gets slept on.
Unk (Co-host)
Get slept on in basketball. They got some. You know, obviously, you know, you think of basketball, you think of New York, or you think of California, things like that. But no, you guys have put some really good guys into the NBA. And like I said, MJ Worthy and Dominique and Curry, CP3 were all the top 75. So I think that goes without saying. North Carolina slept on Andy Lopez. Ocho, pay that 11, 000 in soccer jersey or something, bro. Also switch teams.
Ocho (Co-host)
85.
Unk (Co-host)
The bungles. Trash.
Ocho (Co-host)
Nah, I want to. Damn.
Unk (Co-host)
No jersey, no soccer. No.
Ocho (Co-host)
Soccer kills what I got kids. Y' all gonna do to me.
Joe (Host)
I mean, what this, What's. Hey, hey. Yeah, yeah, It's. It's a lot of them in there.
Unk (Co-host)
I won't. Cold hard cash.
Joe (Host)
I got about 1500. 1500 jerseys you could choose.
Unk (Co-host)
You can keep them all.
Ocho (Co-host)
I want the money.
Joe (Host)
You sure?
Ocho (Co-host)
Money. I'm 1,000%. I've never been more sure of something in my life.
Joe (Host)
I did. Just let me. Let me know you need it. Just. Just break the. Break the emergency glass. I got you.
Ocho (Co-host)
I never been more sure of anything in my life.
Unk (Co-host)
Black Moses, Cube, living legend.
Ocho (Co-host)
All those movies and his catalog.
Unk (Co-host)
Hey, now we know Cube music like that.
Ocho (Co-host)
I mean, yeah. Nwa doing a lot of writing for them.
Unk (Co-host)
Hey, that was the.
Ocho (Co-host)
You got to realize that's what gangster rap. I mean, that was it. I mean, they went hard. Foxy mama 4321.
Unk (Co-host)
Ocho, you never answered my question about bringing your podcast to the FIFA World Cup. Also, I would love for you to interview. Excuse me. Creighton Waters on Club Shay Shay. That would be an awesome interview. Ocho, she said you ain't answered her question.
Joe (Host)
Man, I'm gonna. I'm gonna already be at the FIFA World Cup. I mean, we. We already gonna be there. Matter of fact, hey, speaking of FIFA World Cup, I'm not sure who that was asked that question. I sat right. I sat next to Gianni tonight, the FIFA president.
Unk (Co-host)
Oh, did you?
Joe (Host)
Yeah, I was sitting right next to him, so it was cool. We sat there, we chopped it up for a little bit. Of course, me, I couldn't help myself. On. I asked him to come on the podcast. I mean, I'm listening. Somebody like that of that.
Ocho (Co-host)
All you can do is say no.
Joe (Host)
Yeah. Someone of that magnitude. I mean, I. If he told me no, I mean, it is. I would probably cry right there on the spot. But he said he's gonna see what he can do, and that. That was that. Just hearing that was enough for me.
Unk (Co-host)
Right.
Ocho (Co-host)
I don't know who Creighton Waters is.
Unk (Co-host)
Let me look up Craig Waters, because
Ocho (Co-host)
you know who that is on show?
Joe (Host)
Creighton? No,
Ocho (Co-host)
South carolina. The attorney general of south carolina. I guess that's who he is. Yeah.
Unk (Co-host)
Like what you say? We'll see what we can do.
Ocho (Co-host)
Calvin3163. What would.
Unk (Co-host)
What would he call for if Shannon Sharp stole a rocket from NASA?
Joe (Host)
Wait, who.
Unk (Co-host)
What would he call it if shannon sharp stole a rocket from NASA? Somebody tried to be funny.
Ocho (Co-host)
I don't even know, Edgar. Point 55. Yo, Ocho, I wasn't watching football in
Unk (Co-host)
2010, but what exactly caused your Bengals to decline from 10 and 6 to 4 and 12? Can we get Tio on the show?
Joe (Host)
I mean, that's a good question. On what causes decline. I mean, especially with me and. Me and T. Offensively, I mean, we just weren't winning. We just weren't winning. I. I don't. Defense was bad. Offense is bad. Even with me. Even with me and T. I mean, offense was pretty good. I think defense was. Was the problem. I mean, defense is still the problem, ain't it?
Unk (Co-host)
Was that Tio.
Ocho (Co-host)
Was that Tio, first year there with you?
Joe (Host)
Yeah. And we went 4 and 12.
Ocho (Co-host)
Damn.
Joe (Host)
Went 4 and 12.
Ocho (Co-host)
Damn.
Joe (Host)
Yeah. I don't know what happened. I thought we. I thought. Well, offensive, we were pretty. We were pretty good still. But defensively, if I'm If I'm not mistaken, I think we were. We were pretty bad.
Unk (Co-host)
Yeah.
Ocho (Co-host)
I'm sorry.
Unk (Co-host)
Oo.
Ocho (Co-host)
Y' all been bad for a while.
Joe (Host)
We'll be all right.
Unk (Co-host)
Y' all gonna be good this year.
Joe (Host)
We was good last year. Just Joe got hurt.
Unk (Co-host)
No, no, you wasn't good, though.
Joe (Host)
We was good in 2021. We went to the Super Bowl.
Ocho (Co-host)
Oh, do you know how long ago that's been?
Joe (Host)
How long it's been?
Ocho (Co-host)
You was in your. You was in your late 30s.
Joe (Host)
Oh, my bad. My bad.
Unk (Co-host)
Twig underscore. Be honest. If you lined up against each other in your prime, who's winning that matchup?
Ocho (Co-host)
We play the same. We play basically the same position.
Joe (Host)
We play offense. How we gonna line up against each other?
Ocho (Co-host)
He get me now.
Unk (Co-host)
Cause, you know, my old knee got bad.
Ocho (Co-host)
Not the hips.
Unk (Co-host)
My knee be hurting.
Ocho (Co-host)
Can't even do all the things I'll be wanting to do.
Unk (Co-host)
Won't.
Ocho (Co-host)
Yo,
Unk (Co-host)
look at this.
Joe (Host)
What's that? Who bobblehead is that? That's you?
Ocho (Co-host)
Yep.
Unk (Co-host)
They ain't giving me no part, though.
Joe (Host)
Hey, where my funko at?
Ocho (Co-host)
I don't know. I. I'm.
Unk (Co-host)
I'm in.
Ocho (Co-host)
I'm in.
Unk (Co-host)
I'm in a.
Ocho (Co-host)
In the a. I got a beanie, baby.
Joe (Host)
Hey, you sent me. Hey, you send me. You send me my phone call. I send you this.
Unk (Co-host)
Why?
Ocho (Co-host)
You did.
Unk (Co-host)
Okay.
Joe (Host)
Yeah.
Unk (Co-host)
Okay. Let me see what else I got.
Ocho (Co-host)
What I got for Yo, I got
Unk (Co-host)
something for yo Joe in here.
Ocho (Co-host)
Something.
Unk (Co-host)
My.
Joe (Host)
My jerseys.
Ocho (Co-host)
Nah, I ain't in what you call them.
Unk (Co-host)
I'm.
Ocho (Co-host)
I'm in the.
Unk (Co-host)
I'm in the eight. I trade you.
Joe (Host)
I don't want that.
Unk (Co-host)
God damn.
Joe (Host)
I don't know.
Ocho (Co-host)
I ain't got nothing. No joke. I ain't got nothing, man.
Unk (Co-host)
I'm sorry.
Joe (Host)
Don't worry about it.
Unk (Co-host)
I'll give you the automatic uno. Yeah, I got an automatic uno shuffler.
Ocho (Co-host)
See?
Unk (Co-host)
And then you just pull it off the top. Ain't no cheating.
Joe (Host)
Nah, I don't like that. I like.
Ocho (Co-host)
Because you be trying to cheat.
Joe (Host)
I like to suffer myself.
Ocho (Co-host)
Nah.
Unk (Co-host)
Cause you be trying.
Joe (Host)
I ain't gonna cheat.
Ocho (Co-host)
Like I'm gonna take your word for that. I ain't gonna cheat.
Joe (Host)
Hey, you know I don't cheat, man. Yeah, I do know.
Unk (Co-host)
I do know. Yes, yes, yes. Unfortunately, yes, we do know.
Ocho (Co-host)
Thank you guys for joining us.
Unk (Co-host)
We really, really appreciate that.
Ocho (Co-host)
Tonight, great night for fighting, UFC and boxing.
Unk (Co-host)
Tyson Fury makes his return, but there were some great fights in the ufc. Thank you, guys. Y' all know who I am.
Ocho (Co-host)
I'm your favorite. That's my partner and co host Bingo Ring of Fame honoree.
Unk (Co-host)
A former Pro Bowler and an All Pro, that is Chad Ochocinko Johnson.
Ocho (Co-host)
Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from.
Unk (Co-host)
Thank you guys for your support and your continued support.
Ocho (Co-host)
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Unk (Co-host)
the best tasting, smoothest VSOP Cognac on the market.
Ocho (Co-host)
It's a VSOP that drinks more like an xo.
Unk (Co-host)
Try it for yourself and I'm sure you'll be convinced is the best tasting, smoothest cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and stay safe.
Ocho (Co-host)
That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite unc and that is my partner and co host.
Unk (Co-host)
We will be back tomorrow with ISO.
Ocho (Co-host)
So thank you guys again.
Unk (Co-host)
I'm Unk, he's Ocho.
Ocho (Co-host)
We're out for tonight.
Unk (Co-host)
Peace.
Joe (Host)
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Hosts: Shannon Sharpe ("Unk"), Chad "Ochocino" Johnson ("Ocho"), ISO Joe
Episode Theme:
This episode of “Nightcap Hour 2” zeroes in on major sports headlines of the week, mixing sharp NFL analysis, golf banter, NBA picks, and pop culture with classic Club Shay Shay banter. Highlights include Rory McIlroy faltering at the Masters, the Eagles' latest trade, quarterback drama in the NFL, and O’Shea Jackson Jr. stepping up for his father Ice Cube—all delivered with the crew’s trademark humor and insight.
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |---|---|---| | 03:14 | Unk | “Rory McIlroy never makes it easy...” | | 16:51 | Joe | “You have to rely on a 42-year-old, 43-year-old quarterback to let you know when he wants to come back...” | | 21:26 | Ocho | “Quarterbacks have a privilege … the whole point of being a leader is not taking advantage of the privilege you’ve been given.” | | 32:22 | Ocho | “Nobody moves the needle or makes decisions outside of the GM and the owner. They are not influenced by anybody else.” | | 37:42 | Ocho | “At the end of the day, what about my happiness? I’m—I mean, hey, no crying from the yacht.” | | 44:43 | Joe | “Friday is iconic. A movie you can watch no matter where you see it.” | | 55:05 | Joe | “Floyd Mayweather vs. Castillo, Canelo vs. Lara—those could have gone either way.” |
Summary:
Nightcap Hour 2 from Club Shay Shay delivers a layered blend of hot sports topics—Rory McIlroy’s unraveling at the Masters, NFL team-building conundrums, Eagles’ ongoing wide receiver shuffle, NBA bets, and social media pop culture—all filtered through the sharp personalities and lived experience of Shannon Sharpe, Ocho, and Joe. The unscripted banter, storytelling, and fan questions keep energy high and listeners thoroughly engaged, whether they care most about championships or changing diapers.