Nightcap Hour 2: Ryan Coogler joins the show, Grandmother walks through basketball game, and Reverend asking for too much money!

Summary

Club Shay Shay Podcast - Nightcap Hour 2: Ryan Coogler Joins the Show, Grandmother Walks Through Basketball Game, and Reverend Asking for Too Much Money!

Release Date: March 28, 2025
Hosts: iHeartPodcasts, The Volume, and Shay Shay Media

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Episode Overview

In this vibrant episode of Club Shay Shay's Nightcap Hour 2, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe (Chad Ochocinco Johnson), known affectionately as "Unk," hosts the acclaimed filmmaker Ryan Coogler. The dynamic duo delves deep into Coogler's illustrious career, his latest cinematic venture, and the intricate balance between sports and creative endeavors. Additionally, humorous segments feature Unk's grandmother navigating her way through a basketball game and a spirited discussion about pastoral fundraising tactics.

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1. Welcoming Ryan Coogler

[08:27]
Unk: "Yeah, absolutely not. No, because they were in need of a playmaker of this magnitude even with Stefan Diggs coming off ACL..."

Ryan Coogler graces the show, bringing his visionary insights from blockbuster hits like Black Panther and Creed. Unk expresses his admiration and excitement for Coogler's participation, setting the stage for an engaging conversation.

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2. Discussing "Sinners" – Coogler’s Latest Project

[13:08]
Unk: "So let me ask you this, Ryan, okay? You want. You like, you play football. Did you have professional or collegiate aspirations?"

[15:24]
Ryan Coogler: "It's a beautiful question, man. So I had an uncle who was from Mississippi... He passed away while I was working on Creed in 2015. That inspired me to create something unique..."

Coogler introduces his new film, Sinners, a genre-blending masterpiece that intertwines supernatural action with psychological mystery. He shares personal anecdotes about his inspiration, rooted in his family heritage and the blues music legacy.

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3. Filmmaking Process and Challenges

[19:37]
Unk: "What’s the timetable? How long does it take to make a movie in general?"

[20:01]
Chad Ochocinco: "Correct, man. And that's not including writing the script. Because I write the script too..."

Coogler elaborates on the rapid development of Sinners, completing it in just one year compared to his previous projects, which spanned multiple years due to unforeseen challenges like actor injuries and the pandemic.

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4. Casting Michael B. Jordan and Collaborative Chemistry

[23:14]
Ryan Coogler: "What's next? We got another Creed coming. I want to shoot my shot real quick."

[24:10]
Chad Ochocinco: "Look, bro, like chemistry, man. Like, you develop a shorthand where you save time... And Mike has a very amazing work ethic..."

The conversation shifts to Coogler's strategic casting choices, particularly his collaboration with Michael B. Jordan. Coogler emphasizes the importance of chemistry and shared vision, likening their partnership to iconic filmmaker-actor duos.

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5. Exploring Genre and Future Projects

[25:04]
Ryan Coogler: "How long? I'm just curious, how long does it take to make..."

[35:59]
Ryan Coogler: "It's a blessing to be able to work in a space where you get to work on things that are fresh..."

Coogler discusses his passion for pushing genre boundaries, expressing enthusiasm for experimenting with new cinematic techniques and themes. He highlights Sinners as his first foray into horror elements, aiming to expand his creative repertoire beyond his established works.

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6. Personal Anecdotes and Shared Memories

[38:00]
Chad Ochocinco: "Yeah, big time. I had an older cousin... I got into him just because he thought he was cool..."

Amidst discussions about filmmaking and sports, Coogler and Unk share personal stories, reminiscing about their childhoods, favorite superheroes, and mutual admiration for each other's careers. These light-hearted moments add depth to their camaraderie.

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7. Addressing Community and Cultural Impact

[26:28]
Chad Ochocinco: "Like, black folks, we like theater and talking at the screen..."

Coogler emphasizes the cultural significance of Sinners, drawing parallels between blues music and its roots in the Mississippi Delta. He underscores the film's exploration of brotherhood, loyalty, and the enduring legacy of African American contributions to global culture.

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8. Closing Remarks and Future Collaborations

[76:00]
Chad Ochocinco: "He could pass for T'Challa. Yeah, he could."

As the episode winds down, Coogler and Unk discuss potential future projects, including the possibility of Coogler directing additional Creed installments. Their mutual respect and shared vision hint at exciting collaborations ahead.

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Notable Quotes

• Ryan Coogler [15:24]: "Football is fleeting, you know what I'm saying? So I applied to USC film school, and I got accepted. I found out I got accepted in the middle of the season..."

• Chad Ochocinco [24:43]: "Spike’s a big hero of mine, man. A mentor, you know."

• Ryan Coogler [35:59]: "It's a blessing to be able to work in a space where you get to work on things that are fresh, work on things that haven't been done before."

• Chad Ochocinco [84:50]: "You don't tell somebody what they should give. That's between them and their God."

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Conclusion

Nightcap Hour 2 offers listeners an intimate glimpse into Ryan Coogler's creative mind, his dedication to storytelling, and his commitment to cultural representation. Through engaging dialogue and heartfelt exchanges, Coogler and Unk not only celebrate Coogler's achievements but also inspire upcoming artists and athletes to pursue their passions relentlessly. The episode masterfully balances professional insights with personal anecdotes, making it a must-listen for fans of both sports and cinema.

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[Ryan Coogler]

No, absolutely not. No, because. No, I wasn't surprised because they were in need of a playmaker of this magnitude even with Stefan Diggs coming off acl. I understand. Raybo understands, Robert Kraft understands. And I tweeted it out. I'm not sure if people in the chat can pull up a tweet that I said right before he even got signed. When he went on the visit, I said something to the likes of one leg, two legs, no legs at all. Make sure he leave that building with the deal. Not only I'm talking about the competitor that he is and the ability for him to be able to get open and manipulate defenses even if he doesn't have, even if he doesn't play on the outside, even he plays on the inside. That's a, that's a target that Drake may needs that he can be. He can be relying on during football season. There's enough time from now with him rehabbing because I've already seen some drills with Stephon out there working already and I'm seeing how far he's coming.

[DraftKings Representative]

So far. I saw him squatting, but I was surprised. I thought somebody would make a prove it deal, one year.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, okay.

[Ryan Coogler]

Okay.

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? One year, $15 million with a chance to make 20, 25 million. Right. But who knows? We haven't seen the intricacies of this deal. It might be a one year deal disguised as a three year deal because we saw T. Higgins deal and basically it's a one year deal.

[Ryan Coogler]

Okay. Right.

[DraftKings Representative]

So yeah.

[Ryan Coogler]

I like it though. I like it especially.

[DraftKings Representative]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure.

[Ryan Coogler]

Veteran receiver. Good. To me. To me. Some people would probably won't like it. I think a good locker room presence, especially for the receivers for Drake May being able to converse and learn from Diggs on some of the things when it comes to the route running and processing information, understanding what he sees and what he may see and how things. No.

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah. Back to the atv. Rodney Rogers got paralyzed. You remember Rodney Rogers, the Wake Forest great, talented player. Denver Nuggets. He got par he end. I think he was at Phoenix at the time, but he ended up getting paralyzed on one. He was a hell of a player. OO Rodney Rogers left handed with the Wake Forest. He might have been player of the year in the acc. Look that up, Ash. He was a OO I'm talking about the jump. I mean, he was, I'm talking about, he was built like a football player. Y'all remember Rodney Rogers?

[Ryan Coogler]

Well, he looked, he looked like Larry Johnson, basically.

[DraftKings Representative]

Oh, he was thinking, he was. Oh no, Ocho, I'm talking about Grandmama.

[Ryan Coogler]

He was that big.

[DraftKings Representative]

Yes. He was ACC player of the year, Ocho. When the acc, when the Carolinas and they were loaded back then. He was. Yeah, he was. There's another one guy, Williams, the boxer. He ended up being Shane Paul Williams on the motorcycle.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey, Paul told Paul. Talk about Paul Throw about 2,000 punches around, man. Paul was enjoying the watch.

[DraftKings Representative]

Paul, he was shoot, he was a big ass welterweight.

[Ryan Coogler]

Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

[DraftKings Representative]

Big, big, big. Hey, yeah, I like, I wish guys like. Yeah, you, yeah, I just, just, just guys just be careful. That's all I'm saying. Don't you? Because I, I don't want to see guys mess up their careers. Look, have fun. I, I, my mindset was just different once I got that money. I said, you know what? I'm gonna make this money as long as I can. Now once, once my career's over. Cause you career gonna be over in the mid-30s anyway.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah.

[DraftKings Representative]

I can hop on a motorcycle, a dirt bike, but I ain't finna mess no money up, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

None.

[DraftKings Representative]

I ain't gonna give no. Like you say, you ain't giving none of it back. I ain't giving none of it back. Cause you know, look, basketball player, baseball player, they don't matter what happens. That's money guaranteed. We ain't got no guaranteed money on Joe. Yeah. Hey, Juan Soto. 760 million 750 guaranteed.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah.

[DraftKings Representative]

Show hate guarantee, Mookie.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, but everybody, everybody, everybody don't want to live like that, huh, man? Okay, Everybody's not gonna have that mindset. You know, people want to be. When people want to be free, people want to enjoy themselves, you know, without. Without thinking of the negatives of. Of what could happen or what if this happens. They just. They just want to enjoy themselves. Especially, you know, at this age, these young, especially in this era we in now, it's different. There's so many things to do, so many things you can enjoy, you know, But I, I. Listen, I totally agree with you. I understand. But I, I'd rather them be safe and free or doing things, you know, confined in areas that they shouldn't be doing.

[DraftKings Representative]

Hey, well, if you feel, if you feel that way, like I say, bless their heart. That it. That ain't me. I, I, I don't. We good. All right, Ocho, we got a very special guest. The director Black Panther, the director of Creed. He's a recipient of four NAACP Image Awards. He's been nominated for two Academy Awards, a Golden Globe, and the Grammy. He's the director, as I mentioned, Black Panther and Creed. He has a new movie that's coming out in April called Sinner.

[Ryan Coogler]

Sinner.

[DraftKings Representative]

Here he is, Ryan Coogler. Ryan, how you doing, bro?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm happy to be with y'all, bro.

[DraftKings Representative]

I'm happy that you're with us, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm feeling good, bro. Like, big fans, y'all. Coming up. I used to play. I used to play football. Not as well as y'all, but.

[DraftKings Representative]

But.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But big, big fans of y'all there. And then. And then watching y'all transition, man, it's been beautiful, bro. Like, it's. It always warms my heart when I see. When I see athletes prolong that career. You know what I'm saying? Yes, sir.

[DraftKings Representative]

Well, let me. Well, let me ask you this, Ryan, okay? You want. You like, you play football. Did you have professional or collegiate aspirations?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Absolutely, bro. Yeah, Absolutely, bro. I used to play with Marshon.

[Ryan Coogler]

Okay.

[DraftKings Representative]

Beef mode.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We from. We from the same neighborhood, so. Okay. You know, I played him, played against him in Pop Warner high school and college. I played at Sacramento State, so. Oo, bro, we both played for the same coach, man. You remember coach Steve Mushagan?

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey, Coach Moose.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, Coach Moose got me my scholarship at Sacramento State. Oh, yeah, look, that's me scoring a touchdown on. On Davis right there. On UC Davis. Yeah.

[Ryan Coogler]

Oh, that's right.

[DraftKings Representative]

You a wide receiver, Ryan.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I was. I played slot.

[DraftKings Representative]

I was.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Not like y'all, bro, but I paid for school. You know what I'm saying? I paid for.

[Ryan Coogler]

Right, right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You feel me there?

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, they are go.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Ryan Coogler]

And that's dope, man. Coach Moose is good, man.

[DraftKings Representative]

So let me ask you this, okay? You go to college, you have a nice little college career. When did you decide to say, you know, what film is going to be the direction that I go in?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, bro, it's a great question. So I got my first scholarship to a school called St. Mary's College. And it's known as a basketball school, but we used to have a football team. And then I dropped the program after my freshman year. Okay, I played, I played quite a bit that season. Like, I was returning kicks, you know, I was always playing. I was playing receiver. I played a little bit of DB that year, and so I got some, some more scholarship offers. But while I was there, there was a woman named Rosemary Graham who taught a creative writing class, and she read something hardware, and she was like, hey, man, you should think about writing screenplays. You know, My girlfriend at the time, she's now my wife, she bought me a little software that I could write screenplays, but I fell in love with it, man. So, so by the time I transitioned to Sacramento State, I was doing it on the side, taking, taking classes and, and shooting, shooting short films with my homies, you know? And then I applied to film school in 2007. It's crazy, bro, because, because we was in, I was doing real well going into my senior year, and I, and I got an injury doing 7 on 7 where a walk on a cat was trying to walk on. The team was overeager, and he caught me on a post and broke my zygomatic arch right here. So I was eight weeks off where I couldn't lift, I couldn't do anything. And during that time, I realized I need to put this application in for film school. Man, football is fleeting, you know what I'm saying? So I applied to USC film school, and I got accepted. I found out I got accepted in the middle of the season. And right around that time, man, I started to find myself. My mind wondering when I'll be on the field during thinking about something else. I'm thinking about. I'm thinking about a movie I want to make. I'm thinking about being on set. You know, that is dangerous when you're doing that. You got to be football, you got to be all in. And I was kind of locked down when I knew. You know what I mean?

[DraftKings Representative]

Right?

[Ryan Coogler]

That's, that's dope, man. I want to talk. Listen, I'm a movie head. I, I, I enjoy films, I enjoy the arts and the crafts of it. I Enjoy getting lost in character. I get very passionate when I, When I talk about stuff like this. So I watch the trailer for Sinners and it. To me it seemed like a unique blend of. Of. Of supernatural action, you know, mystery and psychological theory. How did you approach this genre in bending concept and what was it about this story that made you want to tell it?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Man? That's a beautiful question, man. So I had an uncle who was from Mississippi, you know, I'm from Auckland, yeah. But I had an uncle who was from Mississippi and he was like the oldest member of my family, the oldest male member of my family, you know what I'm saying? So whenever I kicked it with him, he want to listen to all blues records and drink all kind of whiskey, you know what I'm saying? And, and. And he passed away while I was working on Creed in 2015. And I never really, really reckoned with, with his passion, you know what I'm saying? I, I would, I would put blues records on to think about him. And that was how I got the idea finished, man. Like. Like, you know, coming off of. Coming off of Black Panther was a real long movie with kind of Farrell and we dealt with a lot of tragedies, a lot of. A lot of misfortune dealing with the situation. So for me, I wanted to make something that was quick, but also something I was. That was very much very unique, very profound, you know what I'm saying? Like. Like in. And I wanted to. To play in. In a genre rock and incorporate music, but I also wanted to make something that was a little bit. That was a little scary, man, because, you know, black folks, we like that, you know, I mean, we like theater and talking at the screen, you know what I'm saying? I think it's super that something that.

[DraftKings Representative]

Get her he in there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Exactly, exactly. You know, I think, I think we have some incredible filmmakers that have capitalized on the medium, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, think of Jordan, Jordan Peele. Yeah, but.

[DraftKings Representative]

Get out.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah, but Spice, Spice done his thing in that, in that, in that genre near the Costa's and everything. In that genre. Yeah, you know, so I was fired up about it, bro. And you know, truthfully, bro, it was a chance for me being a product of the great migration, you know what I'm saying? Give me a. Being born and raised on the west coast to try to get back to the south and embrace that, you know what I'm saying? Embrace that part of my ancestry, you know what I mean? I had the most imagine Time making this movie, bro.

[Ryan Coogler]

How long? I'm just curious, how long does it take to make, Make a movie in general? I'm not, I don't mean this one in, in. In. In specifically, but I'm just saying in general. Well, what's the timetable?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Like, that's a great question. So, so this one we made relatively quickly, but, but they, they, they go from, they can go from anywhere from two to four years. You know, this was able to make in one year. Yeah, yeah. It's essentially, bro, it's essentially like imagine, imagine a season, season and a half football, you know what I mean?

[DraftKings Representative]

Because it takes you six months to shoot. Six months to a year to shoot it. And then you have to edit it. It takes you another six months to a year to edit it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Correct, man. And that's not including writing the script. Because I write the script too. Right, okay. Sometimes you gotta shop the movie around, you know what I'm saying? Right, right. You know, so I can tell you how long my movies all took. So this is my fifth movie that I wrote and directed.

[DraftKings Representative]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Fruitville.

[DraftKings Representative]

It took classic.

[Ryan Coogler]

Classic.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's crazy. I said that, man. But it took me about a year to make that one. Okay. You know, cree we shot that we started, so Cree. Cree was about a year and a half, you know, like, and a half of that year was just trying to convince Stallone that it was worth doing, you know what I mean? Right. Rightfully so. You know what I mean? He wanted to make sure that we were serious about it and make sure that it would work for him. And. And then we shot in January. We put the film out in like November. That was a fast one. Black Panther Took about two years. Started working on that in 2016, put it on 2018. Black, you know, kind of forever was like, was like a four year movie, you know. Wow. Because I wrote, I wrote one script, you know what I'm saying? Chadwick passed away. I didn't even know he was sick. So they had to rewrite that. We got going. The pandemic slowed it down quite a bit. And then my lovely actress got injured, so we had to shut down for a little bit, you know what I mean?

[Ryan Coogler]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And then we put that one out. So I wanted to make something fast after that, you know, Four years on one movie, you feel me?

[DraftKings Representative]

Right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

But I was blessed, man, to be able to make something that I'm so proud of, man. Like super proud of this, man. I can't wait to show it to y'all, man. I think y'all gonna dig it, man.

[Ryan Coogler]

Listen, I know I'm gonna dig it when you watch the trailer for me. When it comes to anything that you do, whether you're an athlete, you have to be a special athlete that puts butts in the seats. When you're a comedian, you have to be a comedian that has stage presence to always keep the crowd engaged. When I watch the trailer and it catches you. When it catches you right away, I don't know who did the. Ed, and I don't know who did the trailer, but I'm telling you right away, it catches you and it keeps you and it holds you, and then it's like it's an appetizer. But it ain't enough. It ain't enough because I want to. I want to see what's next. So now I can't wait to see it. And. And just, I. I'm very passionate, enthusiastic. When it comes to movies, bro, I've been a fan of yours for a long time. All your work, everything you've done. That's why I can't shut up right now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'll tell you something crazy. Oh, Joe, for real, bro. I'm gonna tell you something crazy. We met before, bro. We met at the. At the. At the Tribeca Film Festival. It was the first film festival I ever got into. Spike did a movie called Kobe doing work. ESPN has the world premiere of it, bro. And I.

[DraftKings Representative]

And I. And I.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And I saw you in there, and I went over here and shook your hand, bro. You know what I'm saying? Just. Just on the stream, you know, just being a fan of what you do on the football field. I was always doing in the game, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, what y'all. What y'all was doing, bro, over there in Cincinnati, man, when it was. When it was. When it was. When it was you and TJ and uiz, bro.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know what I'm saying? Hey, like, like, like. Like, just. Just how.

[Ryan Coogler]

Just.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Just the. The. The. The precision of the route running, bro. The confidence, you know? You know what I'm saying? Both of y'all had that. Both of y'all had the mental game, too, bro. I remember Shannon, bro, and used to be mic'd up. Acting cool, bro.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey, I appreciate it.

[DraftKings Representative]

I appreciate. Appreciate that.

[Ryan Coogler]

I appreciate that.

[DraftKings Representative]

Study your movies. A lot of your movies. You got Michael B. Jordan. Now. Michael B. Jordan in this role. He plays a dual role. He's stacking because I'm like. I was like, hold on. That look like this. This look like Michael B. Jordan playing both of these. Both. I said, come on now, hold on. So I had to rewind it and look even close. I said, it is.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[DraftKings Representative]

So what is it about Mike that you love casting him in your movies? If I'm not mistaken, he was in Fruitvale. He was in Proof Bell, too.

[Ryan Coogler]

Real Station.

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Even in all of them. Look, bro, like. Like, what you'll find is chemistry, man. You know what I'm saying? It's a head coach and a quarterback. It's a quarterback and a receiver. You know? Like, you develop a shorthand where. Where you save time, you know what I'm saying? You establish a tone for the rest of the crew. And we're not the first ones to do it, man. Usually when you see. When you see filmmakers work, they usually have, like. Yeah, man. I mean, big time. Spike and Denzel, Tony Scott and Denzel.

[DraftKings Representative]

Yep.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, Scorsese had a. Had a thing with de Niro and DiCaprio. He rekindled it with Leo.

[DraftKings Representative]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, it's helpful, man. And Mike has a. You know, Mike has a. Has a very amazing work ethic, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's always willing to go, always trying to push himself. He doesn't want to rest on his laurels, you know, And I can rock with that, bro. So. So, you know, I'll put him in. I'll put him in every movie if I can. He'll always have a. He'll always have a role if I'm. If I'm working. You know what I mean?

[DraftKings Representative]

Let me ask you this, right? How did you. How did you come up with the name Sinners? Why the name Sinners, man?

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's a great question, bro. We found that late, man. Like, for a long time, the movie was just called Grilled Cheese. It was a working. Working title.

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Like, so if you put up in Louis in Louisiana, you know, this past summer and say, hey, man, we're grilled cheese shooting at. They would have brought you to. They would have brought you to our movie. Okay. You know, and.

[DraftKings Representative]

And.

[Ryan Coogler]

And.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And the story behind that name was I've been cooking these long. These long drawing all crazy meals. I wanted to make something quick and fast I knew would taste good, you know what I'm saying? So that's how we came up with that but for. But for Sinners. You know, it was a collaboration between us and the studio trying to figure out the right name for the movie. And we realized that line, you know, that word was said, so Many times throughout the script, you know, it deals with blues music and its relationship with the church. You know, Like, a lot of times the best blues singers will come from gospel, you know what I'm saying? You learn that a lot of times, like daddies was pastors, you know what I mean? And they singing music about drinking and bumping and grinding. And it's in counterfeit with how they was raised, you know? Right.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So that. So that dynamic was one that we were really. That we were really, you know, once we realized like that, like. Like it was like, oh, man, I was always a name. It should always been called that, you know.

[DraftKings Representative]

But this movie. But trust no one, because this movie has a lot to do with paranoia.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Absolutely, bro. Like, I mean, look, it's. It's, you know, it's dealing with black culture, you know what I'm saying? And a lot of folks don't know that. Like, that. I would argue that blues music is the most important contribution that America has made to global pop culture, you know what I'm saying?

[DraftKings Representative]

Everything originated off.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Everything comes from that. And when you do the research, it really came from this one specific area of Mississippi, you know what I mean? At that time, when blues was created, it was a very hard place to be black, you know what I'm saying?

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And people were trying to. People were trying to affirm that humanity, affirm that dignity at a time when. When. When. When it was. You know, when it was. When it was very difficult and people were trying to keep them separate. Right. You know what I mean? If for me, that experience kind of breathes a level of paranoia, you know what I mean? When you can't. When you can't be all after. After dark in certain towns, you gotta, you know, where. You know, where everybody knows everybody when somebody new shows up, you know what I'm saying? Or somebody who's been gone a long time, you know, it's a little. It's a little bit. You know, you might look at them a certain way, you know. I mean, how did y'all come up, man? Did y'all come from places where everybody knew everybody? You could tell. I'll start at the jump.

[DraftKings Representative]

I'm from a small town. There was 3,500 people with two traffic lights. So we pretty much knew everybody. Now, obviously, there were people that were. Would come back from New York or Chicago or Detroit that I wasn't familiar with. But I knew their family. And after a while, they end up staying. So we were cool. We were cool with them. Also. You said Something very interesting because everybody talks about the Mississippi Delta, the Delta blues.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, sir.

[DraftKings Representative]

And this film, this film deals with a lot of brotherhood, loyalty, fate.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, sir.

[DraftKings Representative]

You did a great job of working and putting all that together. And it came together from the trailer for what I saw. I'm gonna go. I haven't been to the movie. I hadn't been to the movie since the Pandemic. I'm gonna go check this one out because I'm interested to see how you tie this thing all together. Now, I saw the two minute trailer, but I want to see you tie this thing together for 90 minutes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I mean, I'm proud of it, man. And like, look, another reason I think you gonna dig it, man, is your relationship with your brother Sterling, bro. You know what I'm saying?

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Like, whenever I hear y'all, whenever I hear y'all talk, I gotta imagine in y'all neighborhood, y'all was known, you know what I mean? Like, you know, like in that. So these twins, you know, it's Stack and Smoke. Yeah, Smoke and Stack. It's an archetype, right? Like every neighborhood I ever been here had a set of twins that everybody knew that was kind of notorious, you know? You know what I'm saying? And we plan on that, you know, that relationship between the brothers, man, what makes them similar? What makes them different? No, I think Mike just did a beautiful job with it, man. I think you're really going to enjoy anybody who got that type of relationship, you know what I'm saying? Got a big brother, got a little brother, they're gonna really feel this movie, I think, on a different level.

[Ryan Coogler]

I like it. I got one more question, man. After creating something like this, something that's so bold, so different, and you know, you're pushing boundaries, you know, with most of your work and your craft. And again, I'm gonna tell you, I'm a harp on it because I've never had a chance to actually tell you. Now I do. I'm gonna make sure I let you know I'm a huge fan of everything you've done and I'm really, I'm really, really excited for this. But do you see yourself continue to push boundaries with more genre films or just. I don't want to be too nosy, but what's next? We got another creed coming. If we do got another creed coming, I want to shoot my shot real quick.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah.

[Ryan Coogler]

I could be like the final boss.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Y coming for sure. Oh, let me, let me gonna direct that. So. So, yeah, like, like, you know, absolutely, bro. Like, I think, I think we love to make something happen for you. And the other, the other piece for me is like, you know, I want to work a long time, bro. Like, yeah, I want to, I want to make all types of stuff, man. I do love working in the genre space. This is my first, this is my first, like, movie with out and out horror elements. And Brock, I'll tell you, it's very addictive, you know what I'm saying? Like, the idea, the idea of doing something else, that, that, that, that isn't this much fun. It kind of frightens me a little bit, man. Like, you know, so, so, so. But we'll see, man. We'll put this out to the world and, and see how people respond and then we'll go from there. But I'm definitely, I'm definitely not closing the door on doing more genre work. For sure, man. It was just too much fun. I'll show. For real.

[DraftKings Representative]

Right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right?

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[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah, but you know what Ryan? When I look at it and I think about like you did Fruit Veil, you've done Creed, you've done Black Panther, now you're in this genre. It's kind of like Spike, because Spike has kind of been all over the place. He's done Malcolm X. He's done Hurricane. He did Devil in Blue Dress. He's done Harlem Blues. He's done Inside Man. He's done. I think Mantle. I think he did Mano. No, that was. That was original.

[Chad Ochocinco]

25Th hour.

[DraftKings Representative]

25Th hour.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[DraftKings Representative]

So he's kind of. Is that kind of the direction? Like, look, I don't want y'all me in there and said, oh, he only does if this a comedy. This is Ryan. If it's something to do with Marvel or Black Panther, this got to be Ryan. You want to be, like, multifaceted. You don't want to be tied down or pigeonholed or type Calf for any particular type of movie, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's absolutely correct, man. Spike. Spike's a big, big hero of mine, man. A mentor, you know, Same with. Same with John Singleton, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, big, Big hero, mentor, and then stepping outside of our, you know, our community, right? I love filmmakers like Stephen Soderbergh, you know what I'm saying? Where you never know. You never know what they're gonna do next, right? But you gotta. You gotta. You know, it's gonna be quality, you know? You know what I'm saying? Like. Like, if. If. And I do definitely wanna continue to push myself, but also push the medium forward, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's. It's a blessing to be able to. To. To. To work in a space where you get to work on things that are fresh, work on things that haven't been done before. You know, for instance, with this film, you know, this is the first time that that IMAX camera has been combined with a. With a ultra Panavision lens. So it's the same. It's the same camera work, same camera package that was used on Quentin Tarantino's film the Hateful Eight.

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah.

[Ryan Coogler]

Oh, that was great. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, that was good. Combine that. That was good with the traditional IMAX film camera. First time ever, you know what I'm saying? So. So getting. Getting a chance to break new ground and do that with. With, you know, with people of color on the screen. You know, I mean, in a story set in the Mississippi Delta. But it's a great honor to be able to do something like that, you know? You know what I mean? And. And if. And it helps me to. To be motivated, helps me to stay sharp. You know, I'm getting to work with people who I've been working with for a long time, and it's just amazing.

[DraftKings Representative]

I don't want to be Too presumptuous of this, but I saw something, and it seems like I forget the two brothers, but it's two brothers, Ocho, and one of them might be cast. I want to throw my hat in for T'Challa. You know, I want to throw my hat in. I'm just throwing.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hold on, man. Hold on.

[DraftKings Representative]

What you doing? Hold on. I want to throw my hat into me.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, man, get it in there.

[DraftKings Representative]

Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, man, we can talk about it, man.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey, how you gonna. How you gonna take Mystilo? Can I get my role first?

[DraftKings Representative]

Okay. Oh, you. Okay? You want to be one of the fighters that Creed fight?

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah. Okay.

[DraftKings Representative]

Okay.

[Ryan Coogler]

Okay.

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah.

[Ryan Coogler]

I got an extensive background in combat sports, so it would be perfect to be able to transition. So I ain't really got to play no character. I can just be myself.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, popping that thing as. Oh, I feel you.

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah. All this hard is hard.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, oh. All this hard.

[DraftKings Representative]

I mean, hey, they had him. They had him already in the uniform. I was like, okay, yeah, he definitely could. He could Definitely pass for T'Challa. Yeah, he could.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He could. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, all this shot. Big shouts out to all this, man. He incredible. You know, he made watches, too, bro.

[DraftKings Representative]

Does he?

[Chad Ochocinco]

But straight up. Straight up knows how to make watches, bro.

[Ryan Coogler]

Right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Like. Like a genius, bro. You know what I'm saying?

[DraftKings Representative]

Ryan, were you. Were you. Were you as a kid, Were you in the comics? Were you a superhero fan?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, big time. I had an older cousin, you know, I'm the oldest of three boys, so I had no big brothers. I always been looking for one, you know, saying I had an older cousin who was. Who was. Who was seven years older than me, who was a big head. And I got into him just because he. I thought he was cool. You feel me? So.

[DraftKings Representative]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So that's when I started reading them. But I. I did. I did always read them. Like, I took a break from a.

[DraftKings Representative]

Little bit when I.

[Chad Ochocinco]

When I got serious about sports, right? We used to watch the cartoons, what have you. But it was, you know, it was. It was all school and ball for, like, you know, from. I would say from, like, from, like, eighth grade, like, ninth grade maybe, to my senior year of college. And when I went back to film school, I got back into him. You know what I mean?

[DraftKings Representative]

Do you collect them, man?

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's a great question, bro. Honestly, I. I do. I do, man. Like, but not. But not actively, bro. Like, what happens now is, it's like, I'll go to Comic Con for work, and I'll go They got. They got a. They got basically a floor. You know, we can. We can go where you can go buy anything. Yeah, I'll go in there, hit the floor and cop one or something. You know? I mean. But it's been a while since I've been in the comic book store, man.

[DraftKings Representative]

I'm not.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm not gonna hold you.

[DraftKings Representative]

Give me your top five superheroes. Oh, all right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All right. I'm gonna go fast. I'm not gonna. I'm not overthinking. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go to. I'm gonna go to Charlie number one.

[DraftKings Representative]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And then I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Wolverine.

[DraftKings Representative]

Okay, cool.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Can I put villains in it?

[DraftKings Representative]

You can, Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I got. I got Magneto number three.

[DraftKings Representative]

You got who? Magneto.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Magneto. Yeah, I got Magneto number three. I got. All right, I'm go. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go deep cut. I'm gonna go deep cut. Roar. Sarge from. From Watchmen. Okay.

[DraftKings Representative]

I know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Shark. Rose.

[Ryan Coogler]

Shark.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, watch me. And then. And then I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go rogue.

[Ryan Coogler]

Okay, that's a good one.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Yeah.

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[Chad Ochocinco]

These guys, we're all like. Like the. The. The. The. You know. You know.

[DraftKings Representative]

You know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, take our glove off. Touch, touch. You take your powers, knock you out. I mean, that's.

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, that's pretty. That's pretty solid.

[DraftKings Representative]

I'm surprised you really didn't go with a lot of the old, Like. Like Superman, Batman. Batman ain't no superhero. Batman, they got. He can't do ish without that, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Bro, Batman, Batman. Batman was a dog for me, though, bro. Like. Like the fact that I'm saying this without saying Batman is crazy because. Because right. That. That was. That was. That was. Man. That was. That was the one for us because they had. That.

[DraftKings Representative]

They had to.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They had the Animated Series.

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And we used to mainline that. I had a homie from Fresno who played DB Incredible defensive back here. He a coach now, man. Me and him, during fall camp, bro, We. We went half on the. On. On the DVD pack. And during them do we. We would ride back to his girl house and watch. And watch the movies.

[DraftKings Representative]

Between.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Between, bro. She'll make a. She'll make a little. She'll make a little fool for us, bro. We on the couch, bro. Take. Taking it. Taking it back to eighth grade with it, you know?

[Ryan Coogler]

That's dope. That's live. That's live.

[DraftKings Representative]

So let. Black Panther 3, how long we gotta wait not long.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, not long.

[DraftKings Representative]

I mean, there's been a lot of rumors circulating that Denzel gonna be in it. Yeah, I don't know. That's what, that's what the word in the street, you know, I have a head down.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I've been dying to work with Denzel, man, and I'm hoping we can make that happen. But, but, but I got, I got every intention on working with him in that movie. And he. As long as, as long as he interested, man, we. It's gonna happen. Wow. But, but, but, you know, he. He a living legend, man, and a great mentor for so many of us, you know, like, he just, he all about, he all about looking out for us now, man. You know what I'm saying? And you know what an example, bro, for how to live, man. He got his family around him. You know, his like everybody.

[DraftKings Representative]

He's been with Pauletta for 40 plus years. John David used to train with me in Atlanta. I had retired, but he was down at Morehouse and the trainer that trained me bring him to the track. We, you know, you know, tell him how to do certain things. So I've known that family for 20 that was in. I retired. So. Like 20 plus years. Yeah, yeah, so. And Denzel is great. His wife, Pauletta. John David, man, they're unbelievable.

[Ryan Coogler]

Rc, I just, I just seen Denzel. I wasn't able to. Actually, I. They were, I was able to let him know I was there, but he wasn't taking no visitors. It didn't matter. It didn't matter who you were. I was able to see him last week in New York. I went to see Othello.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah. He don't play with me on Broadway, bro.

[DraftKings Representative]

No, no, no, no.

[Chad Ochocinco]

When he on Broadway, he in a different zone, bro.

[Ryan Coogler]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How was it played? Oh, man, beautiful, beautiful. Listen, I took drama. I took drama in high school, so that's why I still have a love for, for drama and the arts and theater and dance. So I really.

[DraftKings Representative]

Excuse me, huh?

[Ryan Coogler]

Come on, Unc, man, stop playing, right? Hey, listen, you already know because you can. Hey, you can hear me talk when I talk about certain things you already know. It's something I really like now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, why you.

[DraftKings Representative]

Why you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, why you call Bush when he said dance, though? That was when he got up in there on you, bro.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hold on. This. This how you know I love dance too. Mind you. Mind you, rc, I did the river, daddy. I did ballet when I was playing.

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah, I just left.

[Ryan Coogler]

I just left New Orleans last week. I went to see Alvin Ellie, man, for the. The umpteenth time since 1988, when my grandma took me to go see him in 88 at the Gusman Theater.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I love it.

[DraftKings Representative]

Brooks.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay.

[DraftKings Representative]

Hey, come on. Hey. I want to go see him. I'm gonna see him. I haven't been to a whole lot of Broadway. I saw Samuel Jackson when he played Dr. King.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay.

[DraftKings Representative]

I might not get there.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[DraftKings Representative]

Broadway is different. It's so different than going to the. It's so different than going to an actual movie. Yeah. I don't know if you know what I'm saying. Don't tell. I mean, you just went to a. But to sit there and to see. I'm like, damn, this is amazing.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's no joke, bro. It's a true actor's medium, you know?

[DraftKings Representative]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Like. Like, like. Whereas. Whereas in film, you know, like. Like, it's arguably a filmmaker's medium, they'll say, television is a writer's medium. Like, like, like that. That stage is an actor's medium, bro. They got nothing to save them. You know what I'm saying? They just. They just. They just. Up there, you know what I mean? There's no. You can't move in, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's just. It's just you, bro.

[DraftKings Representative]

And that's what Denzel says. Denzel says he's a. He's a theatrical actor that went to the screen. He cut his teeth on Broadway.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[DraftKings Representative]

And he takes that. He said, some people are staged and they come to Broadway. I was Broadway that went to the. Went to the screen.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It's interesting, too, bro. Cause what a lot of people don't. What a lot of people don't understand, too, is, like. It's like. It's like the culture of Broadway, you know, like, very similar to. You know, very similar to basketball. Right? Like, if you. If you. If you. You know, like, basketball is very culturally ingrained in the United States, so much so that if you go professional. If you go watch a professional basketball game anywhere in the world, most of the players is going to be from the States, you know what I'm saying? If you go overseas to Italy and watch a game there or overseas in Germany, you know what I'm saying? Like, you'll see a lot of players here. And with that stage work, you know, it's so culturally ingrained in the uk, you know? You know what I mean? Like, it's a part of that culture. They, they, they. About the stage, right? The way we are about basketball here, you know? You know what I'm saying? It's in every school. It's in every. You know? So you see. So you'll see these British actors getting shipped out all over the place, man. They ain't on every role, you know what I mean? They ain't on every, you know. You know, white, white, British actors, black British actors, You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And for me, coming up, bro.

[DraftKings Representative]

The.

[Chad Ochocinco]

First time I hit. I hit a Broadway play and really. And really see. And really seen it, seen somebody get down. You know what I mean? Yeah, it was. It was. It was like, you know, like. Like I. I. Damn, I wish I had been exposed to it earlier, bro. You know what I'm saying? I might. I might have been. I might have been doing that. You know what I mean?

[DraftKings Representative]

Right? And, well, hey, even if I just get a cameo, I could be. I could be Umboku's brother.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, he got you, bro. Hey, hey, if y'all win, man.

[DraftKings Representative]

Hey, hey, I could be a Funko brother or something. I'm coming down there. I'm coming. I'm coming with it, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm with it, man. Y'all, y'all. I'm with it, man. Yeah, y'all got. Y'all got such. Y'all got such great chemistry, man. When I watch y'all, bro. Yeah, it's evident, man. It's evident.

[DraftKings Representative]

I appreciate that. Sinners arrive in theaters April 18. Directed by, written by Ryan Coogler. He written such fruit Bell Station, Black Panther, Wakanda Forever Creed. And now he's with this one. Sinners arrives in theaters April 18th. Ryan, thank you for giving us a little bit of your time. Thank you for the trailer. We gonna support you. Hey, Chat, make sure we go out here and support our brother, Ryan Coogler. Hey, he's doing big things for the community, doing big things for the culture. Yes, sir. We gotta make. We keep him up. We gonna lift him up, and we're gonna keep him up there. Ryan, thank you so much for your time. Appreciate it. Hey, I'll see you down the road, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I appreciate y'all, man. Thank y'all.

[Ryan Coogler]

Thank you, boss man.

[DraftKings Representative]

Appreciate you, bro.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yes, sir.

[DraftKings Representative]

Oh, yo, we gonna get in the movie. O y.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey, hey.

[DraftKings Representative]

We.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey, we gonna be famous. We gonna.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Now y'all off the chain, man.

[Ryan Coogler]

Y'all take that.

[DraftKings Representative]

All right, boss. Appreciate it. Oh, man, that was all.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey, hey. Hey, you. Hey, you. You ain't. You ain't know I took ballet. You know, I took drama in High school. Hold on, hold on. This is why I'm so into it is I needed to be eligible to play football. So you know how you just be taking classes you really ain't got no business taking?

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah. So I took.

[Ryan Coogler]

I took drama just to be eligible to play because I need the credits. I end up like. Listen, I end up liking the damn class. And now even to this day, still to this day, anytime Broadway plays, come to the Adrian R Center down here in Miami, I'm there. I listen. I haven't missed nothing from Chicago. The Moulin Rouge, the Wicked, the Cats. I done seen it all. The Lion King. Oh, man, I love that, man.

[DraftKings Representative]

But I need to. I need to. I need. I need to go see Denzel.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey, you'll love it. I'm not sure when you in New York again, and I might just go.

[DraftKings Representative]

It just might go on my own.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, you gotta go. You're gonna love it.

[DraftKings Representative]

You're gonna love it, but it was great, man. Ryan is unbelievable. You know, we communicate a little bit. He's been wanting to come on. He said, man, I didn't want to come on. He said, give me on something, you know, I come on Club Shay. Shay, I'll come on Nightcap. I just wanna. Hey, I just wanna chill. He said, man, I love what you do. I love you and Ocho, man, y'all, hey. I love how you and him play off each other. And so I was like, hey, we gonna. I'm. I was glad we were able to get this to make this, make this work. I actually met the guy that plays Umboku and, and uh, uh, uh, Black Panther. I actually met him at the. Where I go get my nails or Salon Republic in la. I actually met him at the get in his car, took a picture with him and everything. He a cool dude, ocho.464 pound D tackle Desmond Watson could be the largest draft pick in NFL history. His weight comes with a massive 6 foot 6 inch frame. Watson had his pro day workout. He benched 22536 times. That's more than any player mustered at this year's combine. And he ran the 40 in under six seconds. A five nine three. And he had a 25 inch vertical. Aaron Gibson. No, Aaron Gibson only weighed 405 from Wisconsin. Hold on, Detroit.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey, can you do me a favor real quick? Yes, for me? Because I can't see. I can't visually see him. So I'm listening to the numbers you're giving me. Is he bigger than Sam Adams?

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah.

[Ryan Coogler]

Is he Bigger than what Sam Adams was or bigger than Gilbert Brown?

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah. Hell, yeah. He outweighed him down near by a hundred. What he 464, Ocho.

[Ryan Coogler]

Well, what you think Gilbert Brown. What you think Gilbert Brown was like.

[DraftKings Representative]

365, 370 at his top?

[Ryan Coogler]

Can he move?

[DraftKings Representative]

He ran 5, 9, 3.

[Ryan Coogler]

I mean, move in the position that he actually plays.

[DraftKings Representative]

Hey, think about it. He'll D tackle. He ain't going A gap to B gap.

[Ryan Coogler]

Oh, he claw. He clogging us. Okay, okay.

[DraftKings Representative]

Hey, hey, somebody in the AFC east need to drive. I mean, NFC East. Stop the tush push. Put his ass over the center. Say, look here, you got the guard. You got the guard in the center.

[Ryan Coogler]

Listen, Cincinnati, Cincinnati, we need help on defense, and obviously we can start at the defense. We can start right there on that defensive line. Bring him on down there. Clog that. Clog that thing up.

[DraftKings Representative]

If I'm not mistaken, I think at one point in time, he was almost £500, wasn't he? Didn't he lose. Didn't he lose like 40, 50 pounds? Ash. Desmond Watson, I think. I think I heard him talking about that. He was like, almost 500. Like really close to 500 at one point in time.

[Ryan Coogler]

Oh, they go. Hey, listen, depending on where you go, they gonna get that weight up off of him. They gonna get some of it up off of him.

[DraftKings Representative]

Hey, at some point. Hey, Oo. I mean, you might get him down. You ain't getting him under 400.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, I mean, listen. Yeah, get him a little.

[DraftKings Representative]

You put him on that zippy. That's the only way you're gonna get up under. Hey. Ozempic, semaglutide, triazepatide. That's all. A. And at 464a. Now, I see that. Hey, he can't. He can't play in the league if he tried his diet. Because I've seen somebody over £400 and they got. Tried this diet and they was under 200 crack at homeboy. Hey, he about 410. That pipe had him drawn up. He was under 200 by 175.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey, man, you shot out, man.

[DraftKings Representative]

But I hope. I hope. Oh, boy. Get an opportunity to play. I think somebody go. I think somebody gonna give him an opportunity.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, yeah, listen.

[DraftKings Representative]

Hey, man, we don't. We cut the name on everything. Hey, man, he on that. Zip it.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey, I. I just. Listen, I love. I love the number. I hear the numbers. It sound. It sounds, you know, staggering. It sounds intimidating. But I need to see what you look like when you turn the film on, are you. Are you disruptive? Yeah, you know.

[DraftKings Representative]

Oh. LSU offensive tackle Will Campbell has something to say about people scrutinized. He called him T Rex for two years. Nobody had any measurements on me and nobody said anything about my play. So now all of a sudden, arm lengths decide if I'm a good player or not. I think it's bs. The mock drafts have him going somewhere between a number 10 to the Bears, from number 11 to the 49ers.

[Ryan Coogler]

Listen, I don't. Don't listen to that stuff. And I hope he doesn't.

[DraftKings Representative]

Young bull.

[Ryan Coogler]

Don't worry. Don't worry about that stuff, man. Listen, they will nitpick at everything and find issues with small hands, small shoulders, I mean, small feet. I mean, it really had nothing to do with the game of football. When you turn the film on, what are you doing with those T Rex arms of yours? That's all that matters. That's all that matter. Come on. When you turn the film on, what are you doing? That's. Hey, he's. He's good. He going early. He gonna be off the board. He gonna be. Gonna be a great player for somebody, man. He gonna be a great player for somebody.

[DraftKings Representative]

Oh, you check this out. Granny said up your little basketball game. Oo, watch this video. What is that the game going.

[Ryan Coogler]

Who is that walking across the court?

[DraftKings Representative]

That's Granny. Granny had to get to the other side. Granny said, I ain't walking around no corn. That's too far. I'm walking right through.

[Ryan Coogler]

Look at Granny. Hey, listen, this is visual representation of. I don't give a. You know what. Yeah, I don't give a damn. I'm. I'm walking right through. She ain't got. She. She ain't got. She don't know no better.

[DraftKings Representative]

Granny, speed up or nothing?

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey, that's funny. Hey, that was funny. I didn't know what that was.

[DraftKings Representative]

Wrong across that screen, that's Granny. You know, buying a home used to be a huge headache.

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[Ryan Coogler]

Come on.

[Bishop Marvin Sapp]

And they understand the cost that is involved. There's 1,000 of you. I said close them doors. Ushers. Close the doors. Close the doors. Close the doors. It's a thousand that's watching online. This is a small seed. If I get a thousand online to give this, if I get a thousand in the sanctuary to give this, that's $40,000 tonight. Now everyone up here, we've all sold and seated. But I need everyone standing up here with us, with me to plant a seed of $100 because again, it costs to sit up Here. And this is what I need you to do. If you're giving electronically or even if you're giving tangibly, I'm gonna have y'all come to the altar and give it, because I need to see a thousand people bring them baskets.

[Ryan Coogler]

Bring.

[Bishop Marvin Sapp]

I want the baskets up here. I want to see the folks. Y'all start moving. Y'all can bring it right now. Come, come, come, come, come. A thousand people need to give $20. A thousand people need to give $20. A thousand People online need to give $20. This is easy. Saints.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey, well, that's always been the church. That's always been the church.

[DraftKings Representative]

But, see, they used to chase.

[Ryan Coogler]

That's always been the church. I, I. I grew up in a church. You know that offering plate that come around?

[DraftKings Representative]

They said, but the Lord said, give what you can. He didn't. He didn't put no number on it.

[Ryan Coogler]

Oh, no, no, he didn't.

[DraftKings Representative]

He say, when you tithe 10%.

[Ryan Coogler]

10% of your earnings, man. Yes, 10% of your earnings.

[DraftKings Representative]

And he will say, malachi, I think it's through. Malachi 3, 8 through 11. He said, the man robbed God. He answers the question because he already know what you're going to do. He said, yeah, where would I rob you? He said, in tithe and an offering.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh.

[DraftKings Representative]

He said, bring your tithe to the storehouse, and I'll open up the windows of heaven and pour you out a bless that you will not be able to receive. That's what he said. Now, he ain't tell these jack legs to be coming up here talking about, hey, see, what they preaching is prosperity.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yes, sir.

[DraftKings Representative]

Yes, sir. See, that's why I'm going to the ministry.

[Ryan Coogler]

Come on. Yeah. Yes, sir.

[DraftKings Representative]

I'm a plastic plate around. I'm a plastic collection plate. Now, look here. Hey, don't put no change in the collection plate. God don't like noise.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, dog. God don't like noise.

[DraftKings Representative]

Hey, paper. Listen, I need to go into the back.

[Ryan Coogler]

Huh? Listen, listen. Hey, you. You know, Mama sat. Now, the church, the church, the church. The church. That's part of the building fund. The church need new windows.

[DraftKings Representative]

You ain't gonna tell me. You're not gonna tell me. Oh, he need a roller. Oh, he need a. He need a jet. Oh, he need a Rolls Royce. He need a Bentley.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, yeah.

[DraftKings Representative]

He ain't gonna have a better. He ain't gonna have. If I'm working harder, he ain't gonna have a better car than me. Not that I'm donating to.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah. Hey, one Thing you got to understand that I, I, I've never, I've never been, I've never been in the pulpit. I've never been a preacher. But I do understand the work that come behind it. I do understand the studying and the hours and all, all the stuff that they have to go through when it comes to running the church and being a preacher. Now, I'm not going to sit up here and preach because that's not me. I am not going to play with the Lord like that. But in the Bible. Hold on, listen to me now. In the Bible it says God loves a cheerful giver. It doesn't tell you how much you got to give, though.

[DraftKings Representative]

Exactly. That's my point.

[Ryan Coogler]

That's it. Now that's the only thing I don't agree with. Now you ain't going to lock them goddamn doors. And I got to get home and watch the basketball game because it's March Madness. Somebody said, I got to give you a thousand dollars. Now the devil is a lie. Now you're gonna open them doors and I'm gonna give you what you can. What I can. Now that's what's gonna happen. Are we gonna have to tussle up here in this church?

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah. Then God gonna have to come down there and pull me up off. You have to, he gonna have to come, he gonna have to come down above his throne because he's the alpha and omega, the man that sits high and looks low. So he know I'm gonna be tearing your tail up in that church if you lock them doors and I can't get up out of there. But I'm saying, man, come on now. Oh, hey, they doing too much Ocho.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey. Yeah, they a trip. They had trip, they had tripped and it's a new church.

[DraftKings Representative]

I didn't even know. I didn't even know pastors was a job. Cause when I grew up, the pastor, he was the principal, he was a janitor, he cut hair. He wasn't no preacher full time. That wasn't the only job he had.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right?

[DraftKings Representative]

I know. I swear on you, I did not know that that was a full time job. Maybe it's just me. Maybe that was just a southern thing.

[Ryan Coogler]

But yeah, I was like, hey, man.

[DraftKings Representative]

My pastor was a teacher at the school or he was the principal or he was a custodian. He was the barber. Yeah, he did other things. He wasn't just, he just didn't preach. Maybe that's just, I don't know, maybe that's just me.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey, but one thing you got to think. I'm not sure if Marvin SAP has a megachurch, but I understand what. What goes into it and what entails when it comes to the overhead. For a church of that magnitude with.

[DraftKings Representative]

A congress that big.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, listen, I don't know. I ain't never been there. I ain't never been there. But listen, one thing I do, I love some preaching, boy. I love some preaching. You know, Grandma had me in the church. You know, Sunday, Wednesday, Bible study. I led the choir. You know, I was. I was in. I was in the junior choir. I was a junior deacon. I did. I did a little bit.

[DraftKings Representative]

I'm gonna need to see where they said that in the Bible. And they locked the doors. Now, if that's not in the Bible.

[Ryan Coogler]

No, it's not in there. That's not in there. You know, they. They, they. They. They rewrite their own story now.

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah.

[Ryan Coogler]

You know, we. We, We. We good for that.

[DraftKings Representative]

Well, see, it used to be salvation was free, but ministers have found a way to charge for salvation. Salvation was free.

[Ryan Coogler]

But that's a good one.

[DraftKings Representative]

Everybody, man, they need to stop.

[Ryan Coogler]

Look, that's a good one now.

[DraftKings Representative]

And it's not the fact that it's $20. It's the fact that he put a number on it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right?

[DraftKings Representative]

You don't tell somebody what they should give. That's between them and their God.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yes, sir.

[DraftKings Representative]

Not between the preacher trying to get money out your pocket.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, especially. Especially during these times.

[DraftKings Representative]

I give. I ain't got no problem giving. But you don't. He ain't gonna tell me how much to give. That ain't got nothing to do with him. That's between me. Hey, I'm gonna have to answer. No matter what you think of Shannon Sharp, Shannon's gonna have to answer for Shannon.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah.

[DraftKings Representative]

You could save one soul. Your own. You trying to tell me what I need to do? I will have to give an account for this. I would have to go before that man and everything he gonna say. You remember this? You gonna remember. You remember that, man, they need to. I don't be liking that. Oh, I don't. I don't.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah. Listen, I'm. Listen, I'm with you when you're right. I'm with you right now. I'm not getting too upset about it because I've come from the Baptist church, you know, I've been there. I know what it's like from a little one until I was a senior.

[DraftKings Representative]

Look, I remember sitting on them benches. We had wooden benches. You slide too much, you might get a Splinter in your butt. We didn't have no cushion. We didn't have no cushiony sheets. It leaked. I mean, they revamped it, but it was a church. And you feel. And you felt the Lord come in there. Now they don't got all these fans and things. Lord, I ain't coming by here.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah. Yeah, y'all.

[DraftKings Representative]

Y'all playing in my name now. Hey, y'all gonna have the answer for this.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey, there was some good days. Now, you. Now you got. I mean, just. You mentioned that video just bring back memories at church with Grandma and Overtown. You know about overtime, right? In my. Yeah. Mount Oliver Baptist Church. I'll never forget Reverend Clark. And then as I got.

[DraftKings Representative]

As I got older, my first pastor's name was Reverend Clark.

[Ryan Coogler]

For real.

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah.

[Ryan Coogler]

Now, as I. As I. As I got a little older, you know, Miami Northwestern, where Teddy Bridgewater just won the national championship.

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah.

[Ryan Coogler]

I started walking from my Grandma House on 44th, 11th. I started walking to New Birth, because New Birth, they. They was at Miami Northwest and having church there, and I started going to see the Honorable Victor T. Curry. Victor T. Curry, and became a part of that church. And now they over there open lock off 135th. Everybody. That's a part of New Birth, I know you might see this Victor T. Curry. I hope everything is good. I know I ain't been to church in a while. I ain't got no suits, but I love you, and I'm doing. I'm doing right, Ocho?

[DraftKings Representative]

But they've been preaching prosperity for the longest time. You remember the televangelist, see, Reverend Ike. And they had Jimmy Swagger. And they had Jimmy.

[Ryan Coogler]

What you know about Jimmy?

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah, hey, yeah. Oh, and Jimmy Swag got up there talking about, father, I've seen, you know, I'm saying, hey, hey, but. But I'm saying, y'all remember Rex Humbard. It was Jimmy Swagger. Rex Humbar. Reverend Ike was the first one, because Reverend Ike was having you put $5 and send it in for the prayer cloth. I don't know if y'all remember that. Might have been before y'all time chat. But I'm old enough to remember. That's one thing about being old. And once you get to a certain age, you realize that's your only purpose left to do is to get old. Man, they better stop playing with me. Hey, man.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey, hey, hey. That was classic. Goddamn Jimmy Swagger, boy.

[DraftKings Representative]

I remember Jimmy, boy, man, I said, man, look here, man. Like I said, I look, I give the Lord knows you bless Me and I don't have no. I don't have no problem. And not only do I give to the church if people in need.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, that's me.

[DraftKings Representative]

Hey, I didn't help people in the wildfires that happen in California. Yes, sir. Shannon. Hey, you know, me and my mom. My mom ain't got nowhere to go. Shannon, right? I get your place for a couple of months.

[Ryan Coogler]

It is.

[DraftKings Representative]

Hey, that's the way my grand. My grandmother would give people her last. I'm like, why you can't play? Hey, they ain't got nothing to eat. Hell, we don't eat them. You know, we gonna be okay. We got some rutabagas and, you know, we can make some crackle. No, let them make rutabagas, right? Give them what we gonna eat. And then we could go to the supermarket and we get some hot dogs. But that ain't how Mary. That ain't how Mary Porter was. She say, son, you know, hey, one day God will bless you.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah.

[DraftKings Representative]

Hey, listen, Ocho, she really truly believed in that, right?

[Ryan Coogler]

Hold on. I believe in that and always have, you know. You remember. Remember when I used to do the tipping? Do the tipping all the time. And I would put proverbs certain, the generous person will always. I stopped doing it because I kind of got in trouble, because people seeing me do that and give the others. So they complaining, well, why are you not sending more to me if you got extra to give to strangers? So I, I just, I stopped doing it all together, you know? So anyway.

[DraftKings Representative]

But that's the same. That's the same thing, Ocho. When we gave to Southern, right? Why'd you say bro? Bro? Come on, man.

[Ryan Coogler]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, man.

[DraftKings Representative]

What about a T? What about this? What about bro?

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, yeah. So it's, it's. I, I.

[DraftKings Representative]

First and foremost, Savannah State gets my undivided attention. They first on the list, right?

[Ryan Coogler]

No matter what.

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah, absolutely. And I love HBCUs. I matriculated and I got a degree from Savannah State. But first and foremost, I'm here sitting in this seat because a lot of people at Savannah State. Haynes Walton, Norman Elmore, Clara Baines, George McLemore, Joanne Green, Steve Smith, Gay Hewitt. They believed in me.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah.

[DraftKings Representative]

They believed in me. So, man, please. But I've always been like that, Ocho. I've always. You know, when I got money, I used to go back and tithe and make sure my grandma. Oh, give me something to put in the church. I give my grandma, you know, you want me to put all this in church? You Say, give you something to put in church.

[Ryan Coogler]

You ain't got to put it all there. Keep something for yourself.

[DraftKings Representative]

You ain't got to put it all in there. But you say, give you something to put in church, you want to put it all in there. I hey, you know your baby go take care of you granny, you go get some more. But yeah, man, they gotta, man, they gotta, they. I just don't like, I just don't like preaching prosperity. I don't. Yeah, I'm coming for the word. And so, so now if I don't give you a thousand dollars, I'll give you 50. God ain't gonna bless me.

[Ryan Coogler]

Nah, God said it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Give me the king.

[DraftKings Representative]

Now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[Ryan Coogler]

Well, I enjoy, I enjoyed tonight, but tonight was a good, that was a good one. That was a good one.

[DraftKings Representative]

Ragnar Cal four said, oh, you gotta blame JJ for that. JJ wasn't on the court. JJ didn't tell LeBron to gamble. JJ didn't tell LeBron to turn the ball over. They had a five point lead with 12 seconds. They had a two point lead. They ended up, they ended up being down by one with six seconds. They had a lead with three seconds and the team didn't have a timeout. That ain't on JJ, bro.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah.

[DraftKings Representative]

LeBron James, Bonnie James, Bryce James. Bulls in five. Great air was. LeBron should focus on winning games instead of picking fights with reporters. He's hurting the team right now. He's hurting his team right now. Well, obviously it wasn't a good look. I look, I, I, like I said, I, I, I. We don't need to get into it. They, there was more discussion. Stephen had more to say. I don't care to add anything, I don't have anything to add to it, but I think hopefully both of them decide to leave this alone and move forward. LeBron needs to focus on these last nine games and trying to get the best seed he possibly can for the Lakers. Don't worry about what Stephen A said. Stephen A going to talk. That's Stephen A's job. But hey, now let's focus on what we need to focus on. Derek Jobs said, hey, Unk, are you going to first take tomorrow to defend the ghost? I mean go. No, hell no. I'm Monday, Tuesday, your job, if your job, you show up on your day off to work. I don't know where to do that yet. I don't. Monday, Tuesday, now, it's normally an itinerary like, you know, during the fall, Lo, we went to hbcu, had the HBC tour, but that was already implemented. I ain't coming on my day off. This is my day off. And plus, I already got something on the schedule. They know I already got something booked, right? Ocho, you gonna be mad. Who you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Why?

[Ryan Coogler]

What happened?

[DraftKings Representative]

Cause I'm going to spar with somebody tomorrow.

[Ryan Coogler]

Like, spar?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Like spar spar?

[DraftKings Representative]

You don't spar. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop.

[Ryan Coogler]

Who you going? Who you gonna spar with? Hey, wait. Are you. You. You know, who you. Who you got? Who you got for club? Shay Shay. It's a fighter.

[DraftKings Representative]

The champ is here.

[Ryan Coogler]

You heard me, huh? You interviewing the fighter?

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah.

[Ryan Coogler]

Which one?

[DraftKings Representative]

The champ is here. Which one? He the champ at 147. Undisputed.

[Ryan Coogler]

Oh, tell him. Fight me. Then. I can get down to 147 right now. You heard me. What you think? Undisputed. Undisputed. Champ at 147.

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah. That's all right. We good. I turned that thing over, Ocho. You see? I turned that thing over.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah. Hey, you got. Hey, hey, you got. Hang the phone up, man. You got to hang the phone. You got your hand now. You're not Mike. You're not Mike Tyson.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Get.

[DraftKings Representative]

You.

[Ryan Coogler]

Get your hands up now. Get your hand. Get your hands up.

[DraftKings Representative]

Hey, I put that joy Foreman. You see that joy? Former.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That quote.

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey, that was funny.

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah. The champ is here. The champ is here. I'm gonna turn that thing over on Joe.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah. Okay. You gotta keep that. Keep that elbow up now. You gotta keep the elbow up on them hook.

[DraftKings Representative]

Hey, but I also gotta keep the thing. Hey. Because you keep that thing too high. They banging the ribs.

[Ryan Coogler]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's why you gotta. You gotta tuck in. You gotta tuck in real comfortable.

[DraftKings Representative]

But hey, hey, you gotta get. Hey, don't give him that square shot. You got to turn that angle. Put that angle. I can't give you that full shot.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey, I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna teach you everything. Everything you talk about, you're gonna see me do again. James.

[DraftKings Representative]

That thing off. George, you want to bring it back?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah. You got to give me a little extension on them things, too. Now, you don't. Don't show. Don't show. Don't shortchange me.

[DraftKings Representative]

Hey, see, when I popped it. When I popped that jab. That jab like lamb. Bam.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. There you go. Okay. Yeah. There you go. Yeah, I like it.

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah. Champ is here. Hey, I got Some Reyes gloves too. You know them rails, you can feel your knuckle through them things. But, you know, I got them. I like what I. When I was. I was doing that mess, I was, you know, doing a little bit of it. Then my hips got. Too bad. That's hurt too bad. I had some winning. I had winning practice gloves.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, that's all. That's all I got. Got a bunch of winning stuff. Hey, matter of fact, whoever you interviewing tomorrow, tell them I said, let's fall at 147.

[DraftKings Representative]

I'm gonna call you.

[Ryan Coogler]

I mean, whoever it is, I probably got a number on my phone and just. I mean, you said undisputed at 147. I probably already beat him up.

[DraftKings Representative]

Honestly, Real Carter says Stephen A Chick Fil A don't care how much luke away. Tony G said, what's the Steelers ceiling if they sign Rogers Ocho, what's the ceiling?

[Ryan Coogler]

I mean, listen, I don't know what their ceiling is. I have no idea. I know what Roger can do. I know what he did in the past. I know what we saw from Meta Jets. I'm not sure what Rogers are we going to get? Are we going to get the Aaron Rodgers that's bought in? Are we going to get the Aaron Rodgers that shows up the minicamp or we gonna get the Aaron Rodgers that goes on a dark retreat? It all depends on what Aaron Rodgers you get. True. Are you bought in? Are you actually bought in? You ain't got the leverage you used to have before now. Hey, it's a different ball game. They only go as far as he goes.

[DraftKings Representative]

Go ahead. What are you gonna say?

[Ryan Coogler]

I was gonna say they only go. They only go as far. Every team is only going as far as the quarterback goes. You're only going as far as your quarterback is invested and how serious he's going to take his craft and job.

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[DraftKings Representative]

What is the likelihood of owners or what is the percentage of owners, gyms, executive that actually listen to the listen and get advice from sports analyst shows and people that talk sports?

[Ryan Coogler]

What you think none.

[DraftKings Representative]

Is that I tell you what, if you listen to them, hey, listen to the fans. Pretty soon you'll be right up there with them. Yeah, listen to the GMs and people in that football operation that listen to people that talk. Pretty soon you should write that next to them. Former general manager of this team, former former player personnel of this team, right J213 said Hey Uncle Nocho please rank these music videos. MJ Thriller, you rock my world. Remember the time, and I rock with you. For me, Thriller, remember the time.

[Ryan Coogler]

Do you remember Thrill is definitely first.

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah. Thriller number one. Thriller might be the best video all time. Do you remember the time? That's number two for me. I run a rock you rock, which.

[Ryan Coogler]

Is the one with. With Eddie Murphy and all the minute.

[DraftKings Representative]

That's. You remember the time.

[Ryan Coogler]

Okay. Yeah, that. That's. That's definitely number two. That.

[DraftKings Representative]

I go, you know what? I rock my world is three and rock with you four. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy says fam. Nightcap closing on the two million subs on Club Shay. Almost four million. That's just not content. That's culture. Not just views. That's a vision. Congrats, Shay Shay media. What an accomplishment. Thank you, Dr. Frankie. Hey, man. Hey, Jess. Jess, hit it out the park for us, man. She was unbelievable. Yeah, he's unbelievable. And I'm just trying to figure out people talking about ain't nobody watch Amber Rose. They realize amber rose on YouTube did about 4 million views. Andrew Schultz did about. Did about 4 million views for nobody to watch him.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah.

[DraftKings Representative]

How many people. How many people that sit down and have conversation with people on YouTube do 4 million views?

[Ryan Coogler]

You can't listen to people, man.

[DraftKings Representative]

I don't. I don't listen. I don't like this person. Oh, you gotta come on. You gotta come into the comments to say you ain't gonna watch this video.

[Ryan Coogler]

But you in the comments.

[DraftKings Representative]

You know what? I'm Joe. And one more thing. I want two words to be retired in 25.

[Ryan Coogler]

What's that?

[DraftKings Representative]

Diabolical and messy.

[Ryan Coogler]

Messy.

[DraftKings Representative]

Messy. Cause every time Shannon going to the store, man, you know, Shannon's so messy, man. Ocho. Uncle Ocho was talking about this channel. So messy. And that's. Oh, that's diabolical. Okay, enough.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, listen, the only. The only messy. Listen, the only messy I recognize is Maya. Diabolical. I ain't never really heard that, man.

[DraftKings Representative]

That's all that. Hey, man. Man, Ocho talking about totally diabolical, bro.

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I'm like, hold on.

[DraftKings Representative]

Anytime. There have been so many people that have the guests that I've had on and ask them the very same questions that I asked. Everything is fine. Nothing.

[Ryan Coogler]

The minute you ask is a problem.

[DraftKings Representative]

Not messy. And pause. Well, we pause, bro. We used to. Hey, Ojo, you remember we used to be able to. Ocho. Cause, you know, we talking, we talking. We talking, right, man? I was like, man, I just don't get it. But, doc, I thank you very much. It's the look and all the people that's pausing and diabolical and messy. Y'all ain't really supporting Nocho and I anyway. Y'all just coming and hoping somebody tag along. Y'all want somebody. Cause there are a lot of followers on social media. Ocho.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of followers.

[DraftKings Representative]

I think. I think Jeff. Jeff was unbelievable. Amber was great. Young Miami was great. Andrew Schultz. I like having different people. If all I had was football players, if all I had was comedians, if all I had was any one group of things, how do you grow? How do you expand the platform? I'm confused. Y'all do realize we're trying to expand, right? When you go back and look at talk shows that used to be and they're not even made it now, but when you go back and look at Phil Donahue and you look at Oprah, you look at Ricky Lake and you look at Jenny Jones, and you look at all those, they had different people all the time.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, you. You have to have that.

[DraftKings Representative]

That's how you grow. That's how you expand.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah.

[DraftKings Representative]

But I think every background, they.

[Ryan Coogler]

Different backgrounds, different. Different ethnicities. You gotta have. You got to have that.

[DraftKings Representative]

Hey, and young man.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey.

[DraftKings Representative]

Oh, man. Man, bro. I ain't never asked for nobody. I ain't got nobody. No, we just. We just. We have a great time. I go with how they go. Hey, Young Miami was flowing. We gonna flow. Amber Rose flowing. We gonna flow cash, dog. We gonna flow. We gonna flow. Certain people, they want to keep it strictly. We gonna keep it. That right? But I think the whole thing is to make people feel comfortable when they come on, that they're having a conversation, that they open up. That's it. That's all I'm trying to do. I ain't trying to. Hey, hey, man. Unc shooting his shot. No, Unc ain't shooting no shot. Come on, now. I mean, come on. How that go? Look, I'm bringing somebody on there to try to shoot a shot, right? Hell, I just slid in the DM and not even brought him on. That's what. But people think, like, that's what y'all would do. See, y'all would be. And pretty soon, you wouldn't have a talk. You wouldn't have a conversation. You wouldn't have a pod. The one thing I won't do is Marty Porter told me this when I very young age. He said, boy, don't ever put your dick in your wallet. And when I told people that People like what that meant. I said, you'll figure it out.

[Ryan Coogler]

Don't worry about it. I'm gonna write that down right now.

[DraftKings Representative]

D Chat said, uncle Nocho, is my wife's birthday today. Can you guys please give Casey a shout out? Even though we're beefing, I still love her. Thanks, guys.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey, hey, Casey. Happy birthday, Casey.

[DraftKings Representative]

Put that aside, D Chat, Just for the back. Hey, like Luther Vandross, you just say, if only for one night. It's your birthday. Hey, y'all can go back to beef. Be like Tom and Jerry. Hey, y'all could beef tomorrow, but tonight, put all that aside and do right by your man. That's all you gotta do. Just give it. Just. Just. It's good. I mean, come on, now. It can't be that bad.

[Ryan Coogler]

You never know.

[DraftKings Representative]

Retired deputy sheriff said, what's the one thing you wish you knew about love in your 20s that you understand now? What's more important? A partner? Loyalty. Peace and passion.

[Ryan Coogler]

Peace.

[DraftKings Representative]

Loyalty. Because if she gives me loyalty, I'll be at peace, man. Peace.

[Ryan Coogler]

I ain't trying to hear that.

[DraftKings Representative]

Oh, you want peace, man? Peace? If somebody beat. If somebody beating your walls down while.

[Ryan Coogler]

You at peace, okay, man, she not even with me. That's why I got damn peace. So I don't care who beating them down. Shit. You ain't mad. That's her. That's your responsibility.

[DraftKings Representative]

I ain't talking about your situation.

[Ryan Coogler]

Oh, no, I talk about mine. I'm just saying. I'm saying in general, you said peace.

[DraftKings Representative]

That's.

[Ryan Coogler]

That's the peace. Since when do you have peace? If you have someone in your space.

[DraftKings Representative]

You don't have peace.

[Ryan Coogler]

There is no peace.

[DraftKings Representative]

Yeah, that's what you were supposed to have. Ocho.

[Ryan Coogler]

We never get it.

[DraftKings Representative]

That don't mean you stop looking. That don't mean you stop searching.

[Ryan Coogler]

I'm good. Oh, I'm good. Now. I got peace now. Sir.

[DraftKings Representative]

K said, my guys, two questions. Ocho, I know it's early, but what are your early predictions of who will win FIFA World Cup 2026? Can the US win it? And Sterling versus Ocho. Who is the X? Who's the Z? My brother played the Z. Ocho was. Ocho was an ex. My brother played the Z. Jerry. My brother played the Z. They played the Z position. Who you got on your World Cup 2026.

[Ryan Coogler]

That's gonna be a good one, boy. I mean. I mean, I would love usa. I would love USA to get. Get. Get a little further than normal. I'm excited to see what. What they're able to do, but it's. It's going to be very, very difficult. Very difficult for us. Looking at some of the. The qualifying games they played so far, not dominating against inferior opponents. And I mean that no disrespect, but how are we going to compete with Argentinas and the Brazils and the. In the Frances? And I just. And I. I don't know. So as far as a favorite now, Argentina is probably a favorite to win yet again, along with some. Along with some other squad.

[DraftKings Representative]

So.

[Ryan Coogler]

I don't know. France, maybe.

[DraftKings Representative]

To go back to the question, he says, what do I wish I knew? I knew what I needed to know, but I was so driven. I didn't re. I didn't think I could do two things. I didn't think I could, Ocho. Because the one woman that I knew loved me unconditionally was Mary Porter. No matter what I did, no matter what I did, she say, baby, you were wrong, but I love you. She didn't love me on the condition that I didn't cheat. She didn't love me on the condition that I didn't hurt her. She didn't love me on the conditions that I was in a bad mood and I didn't want to talk. She loved me unconditionally.

[Ryan Coogler]

Come on, now.

[DraftKings Representative]

And so for me, I was searching for that, not realizing that I was never going to achieve that. And there were conditions on which my partner was going to love me always. So it made it very, very easy for me to stay focused on what I needed to focus on. Remember? I apologize for that, Ocho.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah. Remember what I always told you? That all comes down to also being able to manage your expectations with understanding that everything comes with conditions where everybody was easy for everybody to be loyal when it's convenient and beneficial.

[DraftKings Representative]

Well, hell, of course, somebody. Hold on.

[Ryan Coogler]

It's convenient and it's beneficial.

[DraftKings Representative]

Virtual says a low bar. Yeah. Everybody gonna love somebody that's making millions. It's easy to love somebody that's making easy because you know what a man. You know what a man told? Not a man. Not. It was a man. It was a man and his wife. And she said, shannon, it's just as easy to love a rich man as it is a broke one.

[Ryan Coogler]

Come on, now. Come on.

[DraftKings Representative]

Don't let that go over your head.

[Ryan Coogler]

Come on, now.

[DraftKings Representative]

So all this. All this y'all talking. Oh, cheating this and that. It's just get. Either for you to love me or pretend that you love me for the situation that I can lift you up out of.

[Ryan Coogler]

Listen, I'm act like I'm in the church. I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna go ahead and exit. Exit stage left.

[DraftKings Representative]

Well, y'all.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hey, we offering play that. Because I. Hey, I seen your 5200 right now. Cause you preaching. You heard me.

[DraftKings Representative]

I'm 5200 right? I am going to find me someone.

[Ryan Coogler]

Come on, now.

[DraftKings Representative]

Oh, you done got old now. You done got old. Yeah, I got old and I got my money. I got. I'd have been young and then got with the wrong one. I'd have been old with no money. It ain't got nobody to take care of me now. At least I can. I can pay somebody to come take care of me or do things for me that I can't do for myself.

[Ryan Coogler]

There it is. There it is. Well, you. Well, you were cutting. Well, you cutting up and did a show tonight that was nothing. But the word. That was number. The word.

[DraftKings Representative]

Oh, man. My former teammate, Rodney Spivey. Rodney Arnold. Rodney Irvin Arnold. How he changed the name. 1967. He's from Myrtle beach, man. We got to Savannah State together. Ocho, the guy that's. And as a matter of fact, he was. So he. He came to Minnesota. My first. This was in 1991. He came and saw me play in Minnesota. Yeah, I think. If I'm not mistaken, I think his wife might have been from Minnesota. But he had a. I remember he came. He had a red iroxy, huh? I remember that 5%.

[Ryan Coogler]

Hold on. T Top. Yeah. T. Top.

[DraftKings Representative]

Red. I talk about candy. A candy red.

[Ryan Coogler]

Yeah, Yeah.

[DraftKings Representative]

I had a tea top. Had the Iraq on the side. But I want to send my thoughts and prayers out to his family. Rest in peace, Bobby. And to all the family, friends and loved ones that's been impacted by this sack, this sad passing of my former teammate and friend. Rodney's Rodney. Rest in peace, bro. SSC Mission man. T5T. T5. Always Alabama. Cook them boys. Mark Sears is Brunson 2.0. Yeah, I think he made like. Didn't he make like 10 threes? They made like 20. 20. What do we like? 25. Wow. That's it, Ocho. That concludes this episode of Nightcap, brought to you by Boost Mobile. Visit your nearest Boost mobile store or boostmobile.com to join their nationwide 5G network today. I'm unk. That's Ocho, Liberty city's own bingo ring of fame honoree. The pro bowl, the all pro, the route runner extraordinaire, Chad Ochocinko. Johnson, please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys so much. Thank you guys for tuning in. Thank you guys for supporting. When we show up to the shows in the city, you show up, you show us love, you purchase our merchandise, you support us, you like us, you. You hit that subscribe button, you tell family, friends and loved ones and we can't thank you enough. And I know you've heard me say it. We're nothing without you. And because of you, we get to do what we do. Thank you. Thank you very much. Please make sure you check out Shay by La Portier. We do have it in stock and if you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it. We'll ship it directly to your door. Remember, it's the best tasting cognac on the market. It's a VSOP that drinks like an xo. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Go follow my media company on all of its platforms. That's Shay, Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out, everything is restocked. The link is pinned at the top of the chat. Supplies are limited and once they're gone, they're gone. So please grab yours while supplies last. The final four is here. Only one team can be crowned. Okay, the final four is here and only one team can be crowned as champ. We're giving away a chance to win 84 free 84 product. All you need to do is pick a team you think will win and place an order. If your team win, we'll send you a gift card worth however much money you spend today. That's right. For every dollar you spend, 84 becomes a store credit to redeem for free product if you win. Tickets for our not safe for work tour went on sale to this morning. Our stops, Baltimore, Philly, Charlotte, Los Angeles, Miami, New York, Chicago, Detroit. Tickets can be found on Shay Shay media.com tour link is also pinned in the chat. Guests lining up. Please make sure. You don't want to miss this. Go grab your tickets now. Thank Ryan Coogler for joining us. His movie Centers, starring Michael B. Jordan. Delroy Lindo is in it. Hailee Steinfeld. Jack O'Connell. Right. I think he's in it. His movie Centers comes out April 18, starring Michael B. Jordan. Hey, let's support the brother. Let's make sure he knows that we got him. Thank you guys for joining us. For another episode of Nightcap. I'm Unk He's Ocho. We will see you on Sunday. Thank you guys for joining us.

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