Nightcap Hour 2: Saints WR Chris Olave joins NIGHTCAP + Colts IMPLODE after Sauce Gardner TRADE + Rockers CRUSH Lakers + Anthony Davis INJURED AGAIN + Wemby LEADS Spurs past Thunder

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 2 (Dec 26, 2025)

Host: Shannon Sharpe
Co-host: Chad 'Ocho' Johnson
Special Guest: Chris Olave (New Orleans Saints WR)
Episode Focus: Chris Olave’s comeback season, Saints’ struggles and QB situation, NFL/college football hot topics, NBA Christmas Day recaps (Lakers/Rockets, Anthony Davis injury, Spurs/Thunder), and holiday banter.

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Episode Overview

This holiday edition of Nightcap features Shannon Sharpe and Chad ‘Ocho’ Johnson joined by Saints receiver Chris Olave for an honest conversation about overcoming adversity, head injuries in football, and the realities of an NFL career. The show then pivots to NFL headlines (Colts’ failed trade, playoff picture), NBA drama (Lakers slumping, AD’s injury history), the surprising strength of the Spurs, and ends with candid holiday stories and fan mail. The episode is full of the classic Shay Shay mix: real talk, sports takes, comedy, and warmth.

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1. Chris Olave Joins: Comeback Story & Saints Football

[04:07] - [17:05]

Olave on Head Injuries and Comeback

• Olave discusses season comeback after concussions:

  • Didn’t expect to face head trauma going into the NFL.
  • “It’s not like no knee or ankle… you could bounce back quickly… you only get one brain.”—Chris Olave [05:04]
  • Considered retirement, leaned on faith, family, God, and ultimately decided to return.

• Safety Changes & Playing Style:

  • Now wears guardian cap in practice, practices situational awareness but hasn’t altered playing style drastically.
  • “I ain't really changed the way I play. I'm just getting down in situations where I can’t get too many yards. People say I’m scared, but it’s just unlucky situations really.”—Chris Olave [06:03]

Dealing with QB Instability

• Performance despite QB carousel:

  • “At the end of the day, man… they all keep coming my way… I just got to make the play from there.”—Chris Olave [07:12]

• On rookie QB Tyler Shough:

  • Praises Shough’s maturity (26-year-old rookie), leadership, transition.
  • “He treats himself, he’s a grown man. He’s a leader on and off the field.”—Chris Olave [08:53]

Kellen Moore’s Offensive Scheme

• Moore’s positive impact:
  • “His past few years, the receivers he’s had, they’ve all had career years… he kind of told me the role he wanted me to play. I gladly stepped into that role.”—Chris Olave [09:49]
  • Saints’ offense has been rejuvenated, optimism for future.

Playoff Thoughts & Looking Forward

• Saints’ playoff elimination, confidence for next season:
  • “We there, man, we there… All we could do is carry that momentum into next year.”—Chris Olave [11:16]

College Football Banter (Ohio State vs. Miami)

• Olave picks Ohio State (his alma mater), touts the defense: “Defense win championships, man. I feel like we got the best defense in the nation.” [12:04]

Holidays/About Olave

• Shares his low-key Christmas gifts: “Just got some basic stuff…cards, couple jackets, some clothes, got me some draws.” [13:20]
• Favorite New Orleans food? “That gumbo… seafood gumbo. You can never go wrong with that.” [15:28]

Memorable Moment

• On staying healthy eating NOLA food:
  “God bless me, I’m skinny. Can’t go over 190, man. I’m straight.” —Chris Olave [16:34]

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2. NFL Discussion & Headlines

Colts Implosion after Sauce Gardner Trade

[22:46] - [27:56]

• Colts’ gambit trading for Sauce Gardner backfires (record collapses, injuries pile up).
• Chad: “Pouring water on a paper bag—the goddamn bottom fell out.” [23:01]
• Daniel Jones’ injury ends the playoff hope; defense hasn’t lived up to expectations.
• Long-term outlook: AFC is stacked with young QBs, Colts must retool.

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3. NBA Christmas: Lakers Melt Down & Rockets Roll

Lakers’ Issues: Defensive Lapses & Injuries

[29:18] - [35:50]

• Lakers lose third straight to Rockets, 119-96.
• Shannon: “Your three best players don’t play defense… you can’t win like that.” [29:23]
• Rockets shot 53% from the floor.
• Austin Reaves injured (left calf strain); Anthony Davis out again.
• Shannon: “Until they decide to play defense… ain’t nothing going on.” [34:14]

Chad’s Pep Talk/Comic Relief

• Chad jokes Lakers should call him to play D: “…ain’t nothing getting past this, you hear me?” [31:42]

• On Anthony Davis’s frequent injuries:

  • “But he’s only giving me that seven, eight time…gives me that 30 games a year. I can’t count on him.” —Shannon [42:11]
  • Ocho: “And I’m sick of people calling him street clothes too. That’s rude.” [42:27]
  • Both agree he’s elite when healthy, but it’s rare.

• Comparison to Joel Embiid, same frustrations about repeated health setbacks [43:21].

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4. NBA: Draymond/Kerr Spat, Steph’s Legacy, Spurs’ Rise

[46:50] - [55:52]

Warriors’ Dysfunction: Draymond Green’s Temperament

• Ongoing issues with Draymond’s behavior, importance to team.
  • “He’s the belt to the engine.” —Chad [48:28]
  • Shannon: “They’re not beating the Nuggets, not beating the Spurs, not beating OKC in a series.” [48:53]
• Steph Curry wants to stay a “one-jersey guy,” unlike LeBron or KD [49:29].

Spurs Beat OKC Again: Wemby & Team Analysis

• Spurs’ third win over the Thunder, Wembanyama praised for generational talent.
  • “You get into the paint and you know, you got seven-four and a half…he’s athletic… fluid.” —Shannon [52:47]
  • Spurs pegged as a tough playoff out [54:15].

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5. Holiday Banter, Fan Questions & NFL/NBA Mailbag

[59:31] – End

Family, Gifts, and Life

• Coach Prime Christmas story—Shilo Sanders didn’t get a present, all the gifts were for Coach Prime’s girlfriend. [59:31]
• Ocho on reaching the point where he prefers giving: “There’s really nothing anyone else can give me that I would need. So I prefer to be the one doing the giving.” [61:01]
• Both joke about wanting expensive gifts (super yacht, Hermès bags).

Mailbag Highlights/Fandom

• Playoff scenarios, player comps (Ben Arfa/Darren Sproles), AFC/NFC playoff predictions.
• State with most NFL players: CA/FL/TX consensus [93:08]
• Pro Bowl snubs, fan shoutouts, and holiday well-wishes.

Notable Quote — Shannon’s Pro Bowl Reflection

“I was first alternate twice… I should have been at least a 10-time Pro Bowler. But it happens. What you gonna do?” [82:06]

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6. Closing Thoughts

• Community and gratitude: Both hosts thank fans for spending their Christmas evening with them [95:07].
• NFL scores/updates: Broncos beat Chiefs; Lions playoff hopes evaporate; Cowboys already eliminated.
• Plug for LaPortier Cognac and Shay Shay Media.
• Promise to return on Saturday for next episode.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Chris Olave on head injuries:
  “You only get one brain…So, like I said, I just thank God for the situation and I’m grateful to be able to go out there and play and continue my career.” [06:03]

• Chad ‘Ocho’ Johnson on Christmas as an adult:
  “There’s really nothing anyone else can give me that I would need. So I prefer to be the one doing the giving.” [61:01]

• Shannon Sharpe on the Colts’ failed gamble:
  “Pouring water on a paper bag—the goddamn bottom fell out.” [23:01]

• Shannon Sharpe on Lakers’ struggles:
  “Your three best players don’t play defense. You can’t win like that.” [29:23]

• Chad on Lakers’ defense:
  “Hey, you know who they can call? … You looking at him!” [31:42]

• Shannon on Anthony Davis/Joel Embiid injuries:
  “It’s always something…it is what it is.” [43:47]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Chris Olave Interview & Return from Concussion: [04:07]–[17:05]
• Colts Implosion after Sauce Gardner Trade: [22:46]–[27:56]
• Lakers’ Christmas Loss & Anthony Davis Injury: [29:18]–[35:50]
• Warriors, Draymond Green, Steph Curry Legacy: [46:50]–[55:52]
• Spurs out-tough Thunder (NBA talk): [51:38]–[55:52]
• Holiday banter & mailbag: [59:31]–end

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Closing Vibe

Shannon, Ocho, and Chris Olave bring candid, often hilarious, always insightful takes on football, life, and holiday tradition. Whether detailing recovery from serious injuries, roasting NBA teams for poor defense, or giving honest fan mail advice, the episode lets listeners into sports’ realest living room—complete with jokes about “draws,” holiday gumbo, and why giving gifts feels better now than getting them.

If you missed the episode: you’ll be caught up on Olave’s journey, the playoff landscape, NBA drama, and why spending Christmas Night with Club Shay Shay ain’t a bad way to end the year.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, guys, we got a very special guest joining us. The outstanding wide receiver from the New Orleans Saints. He just went over a thousand yard for the third time in four years. After last year, missing the last, the final eight, nine games of the season. Dealing with concussions made him think in the off season I might have to retire, but he's bounced back and had an outstanding season. Here he is, the outstanding wide receiver, Chris Olavi. Chris, how you doing, bro?

[Chris Olave]

I'm doing great, man. Appreciate you for having me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, thank you for coming on. Talk about this season. We talked about what happened. You got off to that great start into your career. You was going cruising along, thousand, thousand, and then all of a sudden, look, injuries are part of the game, but you had an injury that you have to really do some deep soul searching because we're dealing with the head and we're dealing with issues that might have impact you and your family later on in life. So tell us about the process, what the thought process was for you to, to come in back, say, you know what, I'm gonna give it one more try.

[Chris Olave]

You know, going into the NFL, you don't really think about head injuries. Like I had. I had those going. I had those early in my career and they kept stacking up, especially going into year three, already having two. And then year three, I had two more. So it was a tough decision. It's not like no knee or ankle or you could bounce back quickly or have a recovery process. It's kind of head injury where it's kind of long term. It's just, you can't, you only get one brain. So you can't really. It's not. It's not really a scheduled timing or a schedule or a thing to. To be able to rehab from. So said had to talk it over my film talk to God and thankfully I was able to bounce back from it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Let me ask you one more, Ocho. Is that. Did you change anything? Did you change the way you play? Do you wear the cap in practice? Is there anything that you've done differently that you can. That. That you can share with us or discuss with us that might have. Now, you haven't had this issue this year as words be in the. In the past, you had four of those things that stacked up in. Early in your career.

[Chris Olave]

Oh, yeah, of course. It's on my conscience, man. I wear the guardian cabin practice, especially in training camp and all that where it's contact. But I ain't really changed the way I play. I'm just getting down and we're in situations where I can't get. Get too many yards. People say I'm like, I'm not really scared to go across the middle or scared to get hit. It's just. It's just unlucky situations, really. Situations I was put in. So like I said, I just thank God for the situation and I'm grateful to be able to go out there and play and continue playing my career.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You know what I want to talk about? Just I want to know how. How have you been able to find that, that. That. That even keel that. That healthy balance of being able to be consistent with the quarterback carousel. You still being able to succeed with. What has that been like, having to deal with, you know, the quarterback situation early in the season and then, you know, Tyler Shuck coming in and. But you still been able to perform regards to who's at the helm. Because if you look at. If you look at the landscape of the league, there are a lot of other teams and a lot of other receivers that have backup quarterbacks playing or the. The uncertainty at that position. They struggling to put up numbers. But you still doing it.

[Chris Olave]

Oh, yeah. I feel like it's been like that my whole career, really. I've been dealing with a lot of quarterbacks, but at the end of the day, man, it's just. They all TR me and they all be throwing the ball one way. That's how I take it. That's how I take it. I just want to get targeted and that's. I. I take care of her from there. I feel like I've been. I play with some pretty good quarterbacks James Winston, Annie Dawn, Derek Carr. I feel like they all, like I said, they all keep coming my way. So like I said, I just got to make the play from there.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

When you, when you go into a season, obviously we all, we all have our, our goals as a team. You want to make the playoffs, you want to have a chance to play for Lombardi, but if you fall short of that, then come you insert your individual goals. How many of your individual goals were you able to hit this year?

[Chris Olave]

I feel like some of them, some of them I've been able to hit, I still got, still got some, some goals I want to accomplish, but, but we still got two more games, so I definitely want to explore these next two games. So I'll get them.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I ain't got them now, but I get.

[Chris Olave]

Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna get them. Sure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Look, Tyler Shook got inserted into the line of the second round pick. The Saints have won three of the last four now, four and three since he's taken over. Now he's a, he's a year older than you as a rookie. I mean, do you think that's really helped him? Because he's not your typical rookie that's 21, 22 years of age. He's a, like a, a fully grown man, probably got a family and a kid. So do you think that's helped the transition from him from college to the NFL? Because he did spend seven years in college.

[Chris Olave]

I feel like everybody got their own story, man. That's his story. It's. I guess he's a 26 year old rookie, but he, he treats himself, he's a grown man. Like I said, he's a, he's a leader on and off the field. As a quarterback in the NFL, you kind of the leader of the team. And I feel like he's, that's just one of his characteristics. I feel like he's a great leader on and off the field. He leads the offense really good and the way he prepares and sets the standard, I feel like second and none. So I'm not surprised at his success at all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Talk about your offensive coordinator. Kellen Moore had great success at Dallas. They had one of the top offenses the whole while he was there. He goes to Philly and now all of a sudden he leads a offense, they win the Super Bowl. Jalen Hurst, the Super bowl mvp. Talk about the impact that he's had on you since he's arrived there. Because he can definitely dial it up, man.

[Chris Olave]

For sure can. I feel like he deserves a lot of Credit man.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

He.

[Chris Olave]

His past few years, he. The receivers he's had. They've all had career years. When he had. He was with Keenan Allen in la. It was with CD A couple years back, and then AJ Brown and devonte Smith last year. He kind of set the tone early in the off season. When he accepted the job, he kind of told me that's the role he wanted me to play in, and I gladly stepped into that role. I feel like, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You want to run the ball and tell everybody what they want to hear. I saw CD I saw what Keenan Allen, I saw what the boys did. Feeling. Come on, give me that rock.

[Chris Olave]

Yeah, that's great to be though said, but I feel like he done a great job, you know, through. He won the super bowl last year, and then he come into a. A tough time in. In New Orleans and he's. He's handling it. He's handled it with the best of them. I feel like he stayed positive throughout the whole time and adversity and he's. He's become a great leader for us.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How close are you guys? Because if you look at. You look at Tampa, Baker, Mayfield, he's. He's entrenched. You look at Carolina situation with Bryce Young, he seems to be entrenched. Now, Michael Penix Jr. Got nicked. But, hey, Atlanta, do you believe what you have offensively? The guys obviously going to go out there, but do you believe your quarterback situation is stable enough? Because, Chris, you could. You can do all that stuff. You got to have that signal calling. You got to have that guy. If you look at the team that's in the playoffs, that's what all of them have a signal caller.

[Chris Olave]

Yeah, for sure. I feel like he got that effector, man. You just. You either have it or you don't. I feel like he got that. Like, he brings some swag. He brings some swag to him, too. Like, that's what we. That's what we need. And then I feel like we. We there, man. We there especially. You see in the last few games, I feel like we've been. Yeah, y' all been balling, getting hot and hot, but we eliminated this year. So all we could do is carry that momentum into next year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, we got a big matchup coming up. The Ohio State versus the you. I mean, do you play it good? They went to Texas A M. You guys are the reigning defending champs. You got knocked off in the. The Big Ten championship game by the Hoosiers. Okay, you. You got. Y' all gonna run rough shot over what's going on?

[Chris Olave]

Come on, man. I feel like. I feel like. I feel like that Big Ten championship kind of, but it. Hey, it woke us up a lot. I feel like defense win championships, man. I feel like we got the best defense in the nation, and then we got those two playmakers on the outside. I feel like it's gonna. It's gonna help us win that. When I go back to back, I like it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you. Is there anybody from the U on your team? Y' all got a little friendly wage or something?

[Chris Olave]

I don't think there's nobody on. On the Saints from. From Miami, but if it isn't, we could be quiet.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He don't want you to know him, too.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I ain't go to the U, but I'm me. You want to make a little friendly wager?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He don't pay.

[Chris Olave]

He ain't gonna pay us.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. He owe me 5,900 for two years.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Check. Check your PayPal, and I ain't got my PayPal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't got no. You need to pay, pal. So what. What. What. What did you. What did you get for Christmas? What did you get, and what did you give your mom get? Gift. Your mom or family members? What. What was. What's the gift that you got that you like? Damn. I really wanted this. This. All right.

[Chris Olave]

I just got, like. I just got some basic stuff, man, like some Christmas cards. Like, cards?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That ain't no gift, man.

[Chris Olave]

Couple jackets, couple sweats. You know, like the basic stuff. Some clothes. Got me some draws.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Chris Olave]

Hey, see? Hey, hey, hey, Chris, you know. You know you need some draws, man. You know what I'm saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, well, I hope you didn't wait till Christmas to get them. Damn.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You got to think about it, too. When it comes to family members or spouses or girlfriends, what do they get? What do they get? Someone that already has everything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

More everything.

[Chris Olave]

Yeah. The best thing I got, actually, is a wallet, man. I ain't had a wallet in a couple years. I'll be losing.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You still can't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You carry a wallet. You carry a billboard in your back pocket?

[Chris Olave]

Yeah, I just got. I just got one today, so I'm gonna. I'll have to use that.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I like it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on. Chris. Bro, you 25. You carry a bill phone. That's what I'm supposed to carry a bill for.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, hey, what the hell is a bill for, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

A wallet that you put in your back pocket.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Why you call it bill fold?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what it's. That's what. Dude, that's what we call it. But when I was growing up, that's what it was known as going into 20, 26.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

We don't say that no more.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You sound like he, but you don't. And who carry it? I ain't. See, I haven't seen a guy with a. With a wallet in his back pocket in 25 right here. You don't carry it in your back pocket. You carry it in your purse.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You go in my back pocket.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't never seen it. That's why your back messed up. Cause you be sitting up there. Cause you got bills. That's why you be sitting like this. When you sit down, it's small.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That's why it's so small. Huh? You know, I got. I got all. Got all my cars and stuff. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So that's it. That's what. That's what you got. You have. Did you have family in town? You get a nice meal. You got turkey dressing. I mean.

[Chris Olave]

Oh, yeah, we got all that good stuff. You know, we in New Orleans. I had to get that. Got to get that gumbo. Oh, that was. I was hitting on that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Had you had gumbo before you got to New Orleans?

[Chris Olave]

Nah. Now, when I first got out here, that's. That's what. That's my favorite food out here, man. That gumbo. Seafood gumbo. You can never go wrong with that.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I like it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, so you. So have you. Have you partaken in all of, like, etoufe, budan, jambalaya, boudin, or have you. Have you partaken in all of it, or you just try to.

[Chris Olave]

Nah, nah, I did most of it. You know, I want to try all the different foods, but they got a lot of stuff down here, babe. But most of that stuff be good, though, so I'm messing with it so far.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So what about the beignet? You've been eating the beignets?

[Chris Olave]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Cafe Dumont. Cafe Dumont. Come on, man.

[Chris Olave]

If you know, you. Yeah, you know.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You know, I'm from New Orleans. I'm from. I'm from the fit war.

[Chris Olave]

I thought you was from Miami.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Uptown.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what I thought, too. But don't worry about it. I'm from uptown.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You know, I'm gonna teach you how to second line.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, they got some good. I mean. Hey, hey, Chris, how you keep your weight down? I mean, you eating all that. You talking about you like the gumbo and partake in eating beignet? I mean, how you keep your weight down, bro?

[Chris Olave]

Man, God bless me, I'm skinny.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I.

[Chris Olave]

Can'T go over 190, man. I'm straight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, man. Congratulations, man. Continue success, stay healthy, Finish up the, Finish up the last two weeks extremely strong. Going to get a couple of hundred, get two hundies and, you know, a couple of tubs and finish up the season like you wanted to and get ready to take a little break if it's off season, get ready to hit the off season program and come back strong and you get the Saints back into the postseason.

[Chris Olave]

Oh, yeah, that's gonna happen, man. Appreciate y' all for having me, man. God bless.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I appreciate you happy for coming on, man. I appreciate it. Chris Olave, the outstanding wide receiver for the New Orleans Saints. Man, Merry Christmas, whatever you celebrate with Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, whatever you celebrate. Hopefully you had a pleasant one, man.

[Chris Olave]

Yes, same to you, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Likewise. See, Ocho, I couldn't. I couldn't, I couldn't. I don't know if I could live. But I ain't no eater like that, Ocho, so I don't really be. I don't really like for the super bowl and stuff like that.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You ain't no eater.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Lord have mercy. Man, I'm talking about food. I'm talking about. Okay, I, I, I just, I ain't no eater. I ain't no eater there, either.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay, I'm just trying to understand.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, the hell.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

My bad. It's just the way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You ain't no bad.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

See, it's the way you say things. When you say eater, it's based on where I'm from. If somebody's an eater, that ain't a good thing. Huh? So I, I just needed you to clarify where you was going with that, but go ahead.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man, we was talking about. We was talking about etoufe. We talking about. We was talking about gumbo. We was talking about boudin. We was talking about that. That's what we was talking about. And this man gonna come in talking about. What you mean? You know that.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Listen, I. No, I know. I don't know that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I've told you that. You trying to get me to come over to your side. I'm cool where I am. I ain't bothering nobody. I ain't heard nobody over here.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I would just make a show. I would just make a show. I just, I just want a little clarification. Ain't nothing wrong with that. I, I don't. I didn't want to go down. I didn't want to go down the wrong lane, visually, that's all. So you talk about.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, listen. I understand that you had a job at the post office using the back looking.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, that was me. That was me. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Practicing next chrome.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Look.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, y' all don't see. Y' all don't see. Hey, y' all don't remember. I remember when he was playing. That looked like tequil fights. I'm just saying that. What he was.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, I listen. I. I just. Listen. My bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You know. You know, made me get off track, man. And, hey, it's the holiday, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you, man. Hey, I'm. I'm a challenge. Give me. I'm g. Give me a red flag. And anytime you say something out of line, I'm going challenge you. I need to. Hey, I need to play that. We good. We good.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

My bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ah, man. We good. We good, Man, I gotta challenge that. Come on, Chat, help me out, man. I gotta challenge this, man. No, man. No.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Listen, it's nothing. It's nothing wrong with me asking for a little bit of clarity before you get perspective on what you're talking about. That's all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey. Going do that thing like Coach Belichick, pull up my socket, throw it right there in front of him. Right. That's it. Right there.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hell, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, that comment. What you throw the flag for challenge on the play. That. That's unnecessary. What he just said was unnecessary due to the comments that. Due to the conversation with you, but.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

The conversation ended with Chris, so I thought. I thought you was leading into something else. I. I didn't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I wasn't lead. I said.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I. I didn't know. I didn't know. I know now, though. I know that. I got you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, guess what. We got Flash.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

What's that one for?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Unnecessary conduct on the visitors. I got slack. I got flags for it now, Chat, we could. I could throw a flag on him. It's a 15. Or I can challenge something that he said because Ocho get ridiculous with this, man.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

He knows.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, we wasn't talking about that. What he was talking about.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I didn't know. That's why I asked for. For clarity. That's all. But we good. We good, we good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And guess what? I'm g. Get a yellow card, too, since you understand. Yellow card. I'mma have a yellow card. I'mma get a red card on you. You got to go for it. You have to go.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I like it. We good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We good. You got to sit out the whole.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Come on, man.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

My bad, my bad, my bad, my bad. On what had I got on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. You trying to steal my joy.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Listen, wait. I ain't gonna never be able to steal your joy because your joy come from within. I can't steal it. Can't nobody still.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You stole it. Had a good old conversation. We talking about some jumbo, some Etch. You fail. I was gonna check. What did y' all have to eat today? So forth and so on, and this man gonna talk about you. You are eating.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You said you were an eater. Where I'm from, you never describe yourself as an eater. Because if you an eater, then you shown. And you don't want to be a shown or you don't want to be either.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't, man. We don't.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I'm just, I'm just trying. I'm trying to. I'm trying to guide you in the right direction. On, on what you want to say. Either ain't the right word. Okay. Yeah, we good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm just telling y'. All. Chat. Hey, what I went to have the other day. Carpet wet. Who?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Carpet? I ain't got no carpet. I got tile.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I guess you've been practicing. I don't know. Tell it.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

No, I don't pray. I don't practice, I don't practice. Hey, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was talking about eating jambalaya. Okay. I was talking about eating.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Eating what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what. Eating Boudet boot.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay, that, that was close. That was close enough.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was close enough, Man. First of all, if you from New Orleans, you know exactly.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I know what it is. I told you. I'm from uptown. Huh? I'm from uptown.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, damn. I thought you was from the Fifth Ward. You keep moving.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Listen, I'm from all over, bruh. You hear me? I'm from all over.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right. I take your word for it, Ocho. The Colts are one in five since the trade for Sauce Garner and are not almost certainly out of the playoffs. Ocho, I can't remember. Maybe you can. Can you remember seeing a team go all in and it deteriorates?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I didn't. I don't. I, I, I, I can't recall right now. I'm sure if, if someone was to jog my memory on a situation where a team went all in that was playing extremely well all season and understood they were a piece or two away from actually having a. A realistic shot, and that's what the Colts had, based on the way Daniel Jones had them playing, they really had a realistic shot. You go out and get Sauce Garden, you give up two first round picks for that? A lot of people, you laugh about it and understand. Yeah. And you let AD Metro go. You understand? You got Javis. Javious Ward on one side with Sauce Garden. You have a great defense that's playing well. You got a goddamn offense that's being run by Daniel Jones. That is phenomenal. You got Jonathan Taylor running crazy, running wild like Crash Bandicoot. So you understand why they did what they did. But I'm not sure it like. Like. Like pouring water on. On a paper bag. The goddamn bottom fell out. The goddamn bottom fell out. Injuries happened and things just didn't go well. So I know one thing. There's always next year. Daniel Jones will have time to heal and come back from that. That fibula. Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, he had broken leg and he.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Had time because obviously he had to compensate for one from one area when that fiber was hurt. I'm assuming that's probably how that happened. But, I mean, he'll be fine. I mean, as a quarterback, he's not that mobile anyway, so he'll still be able to do what he did this year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he was mobile once upon a time.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Remember he tripped himself up when he. When he had that long giants and he tripped up himself? Okay.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yes.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, shoot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So we'll see how much. How much it will cost.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay. That's a better way to put.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, now, I. I think the fibula will be fine. The question is that Achilles.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Well, we've seen it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Will he be able to like. Will he be able to like.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

We've seen Aaron Rogers come back from it. We've seen cur. Kirk Cousins come back from it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Kirk cousin was a statue anyway, and Rogers and. But you got to realize it did hinder some, but Rogers ain't have this kind of speed, ain't have that kind of mobility. This kid. This kid could run. This kid a legit 4 or 5.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

He.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He could really, really run. And you saw Ocho. He. When he took off on. I think that was a Monday night.

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Or maybe a church, he was actually over himself.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That was funny.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So it. It is probably next year maybe won't be the best version. It will probably be the following year.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Before we see the best version of Daniel Jones. But he was playing extremely well this year. He had definitely ended with smack dab. And I understand why they did what they did. They're going for it. I mean, and look, you go for it. It's like, you know, you see a piece of property and you like, okay, this is the one, and you go all in on it. And then the market makes a Correction. Or it swings the other way and then bad things happen. But I, I, I don't, I, you know, I don't. Did they give up too much? It's easy to say that now. Me, I thought Sauce watching him like I've watched him, I thought his play had slipped over the last couple of years compared to where it was his rookie year. Ocho, I thought he'd start to get more. He's starting to do more clutching and more grabbing, getting more penalties. He seemed to like to drift a little bit. But, hey, they did what they did. Clearly, when you make that kind of move, you signed off earth, say Carly. I think her name is Carly. She's the one of the owners, one of the Jim's daughters that's running the organ with the, with the other two sisters. But I understand why they did what they did, considering. But they feel they have their quarterback and you got to have him because you look what's in that division. C.J. stroud, you got Cam Ward, and you got Trevor Lawrence. So they feel they got the quarterback. They got a defense. They got. Buck is back. You mentioned they hadarius Ward, you get pairing with Sauce, you got Buck, you got Frank, you got. So you got guys like, okay, we could do some things. And then, boom, Daniel Jones getting hurt, and then, boom, Saul's get hurt and you just getting booked back. But it just, it just all fell apart.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, you got, you got to think how many times the opportunity comes around where your team is built perfectly, perfectly. You got the right piece and Daniel Jones coming in and, and everything's hitting on all cylinders. You make that move, you got to make that move because you never know when you have that opportunity again. You never, you never know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but you know, they went for it, and it's unfortunately not going to work out for them this year. They'll add some pieces and, and try to strengthen it and try to make a run at it next year. But if you look at, if you look at the afc, everybody got really young quarterbacks. You look at Denver, you look at the Chargers, you look at Kansas City has Mahomes now. We'll see how he comes back from the ACL and AC and lcl. We'll see how he comes back. But you look at Trevor Lawrence, you look at C.J. stroud, Cam Ward, we'll see what Tennessee can do. Add pieces around him. And then you go to the north, you got Joe Burrow, he's there. Does Aaron Rodgers come back? What's the situation going to happen Ocho, with Baltimore, Is Lamar there or is Lamar moving on? And then you got New England young, you got Buffalo young. Yeah, jets in Miami. We know there's gonna be some turnover there, but you still got seven to eight teams that you're gonna have to deal with for the next several years because of their quarterback play and how they're positioned themselves. So it's not. It's not going to be easy for the. For the Colts. Ocho. The lakers dropped their third straight game, losing on Christmas Day to the Rockets, 119 to 96. As bad a stretch as it's been for LA, a larger issue still looms. Austin Reeves, left calf. He missed the second half tonight. According to Dave McMenamine, Reeves will surely undergo for the test tomorrow.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

What happened? You know, I. I was watching football all day.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me tell you. People got all over Rich Paul was having a conversation. Him and Max Kellerman, they got a podcast together. And he was saying, Lakers aren't championship contenders. And people got all over him and they're not. And I said this. Your three best players don't play defense. Your three best players don't play defense. You can't win. You can't score enough, because if you miss a shot, they're going to go down to the other end. At one point in time, I saw the rockets were shooting 57% from the floor and 50 plus percent from the three. So in other words, they're getting whatever the hell they want, whenever the hell they want, however the hell they want. You can't win like that. I don't care. I don't care. Luca can score 40, LeBron can score 25A and AR can score 30, but the other team is going to get a. Going to get layups and get dunked and get two foot shots.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I mean, see, did they expect Rich Paul to. To not be honest?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Look at this. Kevin Durant, 8 or 14. Jabari Smith, 6 or 9. Tari Easton was 6 or 14, was 5 or 7. Amin Thompson, 12 or 9. Just Jashan Tate 1 or 2. Stephen Adams 2 or 3. Clint Capella, 3 or 4. Reed Shepherd, 5 or 10. They shot 53% from the floor.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Laker shot 51.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, that. That wasn't bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

What happened to Reeves, though? Unc, he's gonna. It's something bad calf.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was dealing with a calf issue.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay, he probably got a little strain in. He got a little strain?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Turnovers. They turned the ball over too much. Luca had four turnovers in the first, five in the first five minutes of the game, Luca, until they. Until. Until they decide to play defense. Excuse me. And J.J. can. Can have a conversation, can have a meeting with Luca, he can have a meeting with LeBron, but he need to have a meeting with a Homeland security. Cause maybe they can guard.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, you know the Lakers need somebody to play defense. Boy, you know who they can call? Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

What you mean, who? You looking at him?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got the ball. That's an offensive stance. That's not a defensive stance. Oh, Lord.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, boy, ain't nothing getting past this. You hear me? Hey, you hear me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey. Can you hand check? Can you hand check now? Can you hand check again? Okay, I'm gonna just. I'm gonna use my elbow like this. Huh? You see that? And you got. You get. Get a good base. Good elbow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All they gonna do is spin off you and lay it up. Or don't.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, I'm ashy as hell, boy. Oh, my God.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know if you from. I thought you was from ash wielding.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

But, you know, it's Christmas. It's. You know, you don't put no, I don't put no lotion on on Christmas. I was chilling.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, it's. It's embarrassing. Yeah, I'm about to be 1000%. Chad is embarrassing. Y' all watch them. I mean, the other night against Phoenix. The other night, they. They just. They just. They won't play defense.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They won't play deep. They won't. They won't play defense. It's not that they won't. They can't. They got guys that can't play. Luca cannot play defense. He can't. LeBron is too old to play defense. He's not going to be able to sit in the chair. Yeah, he can chase down and he could. He can deal for. But your three best players, they don't play. And it puts so much stress on the others to try to recover and to try to cover for those guys after they're getting blown. By now the defense is comfortable.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hold on now. Now what happened now? Some. Some going to have to give offensively. If everyone starts playing defense, then the officer output is going to change drastically.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But the problem that you have, if you go look at it, Deandre Ayton is not a defensive center. So he don't offer you the protection that someone that's a defensive guy that can give you. Look at me. Look at Max Cleaver doesn't play defense. Dalton connect doesn't play defense. The only guy that you really got to play defense is Marcus Mark and Jerry Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt played pretty good tonight. He's three or four from the three, but a lot of times oo they leave him wide open. They help. They double to get the ball out of Luca hand. They'll double to get the ball out of Austin Reed's hand. They'll double and they'll go cover. So if I double Austin Reed, I'm gonna go cover LeBron. I'm gonna go cover Luca. I believe Jerry Vanderbilt wide open. I don't believe he can make that shot.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They'Re bad. I mean, look, 19 and 10. But until they decide they make it up in their mind they want to play defense. Ain't nothing. Ain't nothing going on. Ayton, what did aiden have tonight? Eight was five or six. Man had two rebounds. Man seven foot tall got two rebounds. They got out, rebounded by 20 plus there was minus 23 on the rebounding end.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Dang.

[Shannon Sharpe]

KD had more rebounds, Jabari Smith had more rebounds, Tar Eason had more rebounds, Shingoon had more rebounds, Amin Thompson had more rebounds, Steven Adams had more rebounds, Clint Capella had more rebounds. And Reed Shepherd, a guard who played 19 minutes, had the same number of rebounds. Is deandre A.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The lead rebounder was Luca. Luca had five and Jerry Bandebell had five. LeBron had two, Rui had two. Rui. Rui got cardio in tonight. Rui was oh, zero points. 0 for 6 from the field, 0 for 3 from the three point line. Didn't shoot any free throws. Two up, rebounds, one assist, a turnover, a steal. Everybody was terrible. LeBron minus 33, Rui minus 29, DeAndre minus 14, Luca minus 25, Austin Reeves minus 7, Cleaver minus 8. Only Jared Vanderbilt and Ravia was plus everybody else was. They were terrible.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Bad night tonight. And that's the third lost, third loss in a row, you said.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yep.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You know, hey, it's like, it's like a baseball player. You know, when you're a slugger sometime you get, you get in a little slump. You hear me? You're getting a little slump and it's only way to get up. It's only one way to get up out that slump on. You got to keep on stepping up to the plate. You got to keep on swinging. At some point you're going to connect. At some point them boys gonna get out there and get themselves back in the rhythm. All the tickets want it is take one game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh no, they can. Scoring is not the defense, huh? If you see the team, they gave up 119 points. But what happened? But here the problem what happens when you struggle and you don't play defense? You get beat like this. You get beat like you got beat in Phoenix. You get beat by 20, 25, 30. That's the problem. Losing is not. The problem is that when you don't play defense is how you lose. A Christmas Edition Ocho Christmas tradition like no other. Anthony Davis oh, what a matchup we got, y'.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

All.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn. Inside the NBA spoke about AD's future with the Mavs. Chuck say, what are the Mavs going to do? They're in trouble now because it's clear to me that Anthony Davis, as much as we like him and love him as a player, he's never going to be healthy. They got to make a decision. Kenny Smith asked, what would you do? Chuck said, I think I might move on. If I was running the team, I'd say, you know what? It's Cooper teams now.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I mean it. It could still be Cooper's team. And because it's Cooper Team, you can, you can allow those injuries where he's not available to play Anthony Davis in general and allow Coop to take over and you have your other pieces in place. I don't think you let someone like Anthony Davis go away. You're still going to need that veteran presence there until Kyrie comes back at some point. I'm not. Do you really want to let another hey, what's, what's 80? What? He's a.

[Chris Olave]

He's a.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

He's a what, 2012 and 8 guy? No. Am I wrong?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, for sure. No, not, not, not not. And not that many assist. But he's a. He's a double double. Okay, 20. He's a double double guy. Normally somewhere like 22 to 24. He'll give you somewhere between 10 and 12 rebounds. Somewhere between three.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay. I would, I wouldn't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That. I would give you two blocks. Two. Two and a half blocks.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I went off that far. But that. Do you really want to let something go like that? That's that productive on the office end. That's that productive on the defense end as well, huh? He can be a three level score at. Well, mostly from mid range and in the paint. He can play with his back. He can post up. I mean, he could face you, man, you know what we talking about? It ain't that. It ain't that many out there like that. Do you really want to let him go just because of his injury history? And do you get someone else that doesn't get a production that he does when he is healthy?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But Ocho. But he's only giving me that seven, eight time. You know, he gives me that 30 games a year. I can't. I can't count on him. Remember he missed time earlier this year, Ocho with a calf.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, he sure did. Hey, I'm. And I'm sick of people calling him street clothes too. That's rude. I think that's very rude because that's the most.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The time they see him, that's what he's in. Not in the basketball uniform. And now he's hurt again. Remember he got there last year and the first game he played, he's going off and he heard his growing and 24 he got. He hurt his ankle. I mean, it is what it is. Ocho. It's not like people are making things up. He's injured an awful lot. You can't deny that he's a phenomenal player. He was voted One of the 75 greatest players to ever play in the NBA. He is a champion. He is an All NBA selection. An All NB, all defensive selection. Yes, yes, he's phenomenal. But Ocho, he's.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

So I got a question too. Oh, I got a question for you.

[Chris Olave]

Right.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

So think about. Hey, Chat, I know y' all love your basketball now. So, you know, I'm getting warm. I'm getting warm. I'm getting good at it now. So you'd rather move on from AD because he has an injury history, Right? So if I ask you the same question in the same scenario when it comes to Joel Embiid, would you move on from Joel and beat as well because of his injury history and him always being hurt as well? Or, or do the goal move, depending on who the players Talking about?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no. Same thing with Joel Embiid. I think Joel Embiid has probably been healthy one playoff run more times than not his season's end with a knee, ankle or back. You know, I made the joke that only babies have more stomach issues than Joel Embiid. But it's always something with him. It is. He's just a large man on a frame and, and he can't stay healthy. I think he left the game the other night. I don't know if he, if he came back in or what's his status now, but he left the game the other night. I don't know if he came back in because once he left, I turned.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Damn, man. I, I, you know, I, I just, when I hear about people getting injuries, whether regardless of sport. Regardless of sport, I wish I could just give them the area of my body that is hurting on them. I just. Man, here, God damn. Lamar, take my back or Patrick from Homes it here, take my ACL or Keely, whatever, whatever it may be. Just, I mean, Anthony David, take my goddamn groin. Like, I don't understand. It's something that goes wrong all the time no matter what. And I know these players, they don't play around when it comes to strengthening, additioning and training in the off season. So I'm curious how they have all the resources and have the best of the best of everything and still for some reason get hurt. You know, I mean, I, I don't, I don't, I don't get it. I don't understand it. It just, it's, it's, it's odd to me. It's just, it's just odd. And they have all these, they have all these specialists unk that tell you you got to eat this and you got to do this. You gotta. And like as advances in as far as we've come. Or so I thought. When it comes to health and strength and conditioning and eating right and, and all this stuff they talk about and you, you'll last long, you won't get hurt. It gives you energy. I just. Everybody continues to keep falling apart. Everybody is still falling apart.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, listen, the pace of play, the, the pace of play has greatly increased. They're getting up and down. Everybody's just getting up and down the court now. So your body, if, and if you have like anything that could potentially. Yeah, you're going to get, you know, you're going to be you groin, hamstrings and things of that because they're up and down now. Oo you see these teams I think somebody. Atlanta lost a game the other night, 150 to 152 in regulation. Teams are routinely in the high 120s and the 130s now. And maybe, maybe. And maybe, maybe, maybe that's why the pace has increased and guys are getting more injured than. Than. Than. Than. Than what they were in years past. But something. I mean, I. I feel bad. I feel bad for Anthony, but he just can't stay healthy. Steph Curry spoke about the spat between Draymond and Steve Kerr a few days ago, saying them two are now in a better place. Stuff like that happens. They have equity of years and years of a relationship that has its moments. They handled yesterday at practice well, and we handled it too well as a team.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Joe, what'd you think?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, I heard about it. I've seen it happen before many of times. I mean, at different levels. NFL, you know, college. I've seen it in high school, and as hell I saw it in Peewee. And most of the time, the players that do that are very, very, very, very important. Players that are an intricate part of. Whether it be offensive defense. I don't see just your average Joe's do that or get into it with coaches like that. I think it does happen at times. I've seen it many of times. It's not often that it's caught like that on camera, but. But it does happen. And I'm sure they will make a big deal out of it because those on the outside looking in, they're not too fond of it and don't think it should happen, but it's something that goes on, especially when it comes to competitive sports, especially at the highest level.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I guess. I think the thing is, it's just that it's. With Draymond, it's always something.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, yeah, that's him. That's him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I. I've never seen a guy like, leave, go. Don't go to the locker room, don't come back out, then say, come back out later when he, you know, because he wasn't in a good. I. I guess. Look, this is where they are as a team. They know Draymond. Draymond's been in the league, I think, a decade now, now maybe a little. Think about 12 years. So they know. They. They. They know Draymond, he's been like this. So. Am I surprised that they continuously deal with it?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, he's important. He's important for what they do, huh? He's important. It's like, it's like having an engine. Like having an engine. He's not, he's not Steph Curry. He's not Kaminga. But the engine is not working unless you have the goddamn belt on there. It's not going nowhere unless you got the belt. He's the belt to the engine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're not going anywhere.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, that's not nice, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm being honest. They're not beat. They're not beating the Nuggets in a seven game series. They're not beating the San Antonio in a seven game series. They're not beating OKC in a seven game series. I'm not sure they can beat Minnesota in a seven game series. So what, what are we, what are we actually talking about? They're not going nowhere.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

So what you think so? Steph, Steph Curry don't do that. You just said they not going nowhere. So why, why would I stay there? He should go to a contender and come on down to Miami.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, they might. They'll try. They'll try to get someone to come join Steph, but then I. And Steph doesn't want to go. Steph want to be a one of. Steph want to be one of those single jersey guys. He want to be a Bird. He want to be a Magic.

[Pharmaceutical Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, he want to be a Tim Duncan. He wants to be one of those guys that spend their entire career. I can see him spending his entire career now. Hey, things happen. Things happen. But I mean, I don't even. I don't even know. I don't. I don't even know. I don't even know how I would even look to see stuff at somebody. It's something other than that. Blue, yellow and white. I mean, really, can you, can you see Steph? I mean, think about how Jordan looked when he was with the, the Wizards. Can you imagine Magic Johnson in another uniform? Could you imagine Larry Bird in another uniform?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

It wouldn't look right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, it's different that LeBron. We've seen LeBron go from Cleveland to Miami, back to Cleveland to Los Angeles. So just to see stuff and what year this be, year 6, 15, 16 to see him might be. It might be even later than that. Might be year 17, 18 to see him in another uniform. Like Katie and Russ. We've seen them transfer uniforms. So it's not a shock. It was to see KD even like, damn, man, Katie ended up OKC anymore. But then you go from OKC to the warriors into the Nets, into the Nets to, you know, Phoenix, and Phoenix not a Houston So it ain't nothing but to see, like, damn, Steph Curry and another uniform. So, yeah, basket. I guess basketball is different, Ocho. The spurs beat the Thunder 117, 102 for the third win over them of the defending champs in two weeks. OKC started the season 24, one time for the league's best record. Through 25 games, the Thunder are 214 cents, including three losses to the Spurs. Now Jalen Williams said, oh, we would beat the Bulls and we would beat the. This team, and we beat the 2017 Golden State.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Are you feeling good? Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, he was feeling good. Oh, yeah. Oh, we gonna get the. Okay. Okay, bro. Beat the spurt. Beat the Spurs. Before you talk about beating the 2017 warriors, that's arguably what? That's arguably one of the greatest three teams. And I'm not so sure there are two or three that's ever been assembled. Do you understand that they had Steph Clay and KD on the same rock.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

73 and 9. 73, 19.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, that was. That was the year after. That was the year before. 73 and 9 was 2016 when they. I mean, 2015. 20. Yeah, 2015 when they lost to the Cleveland. Cleveland. LeBron came back. Harrison Barnes had 15 points. Dear. And Fox goes crazy 29. Stephan Castle had 19. Wimby had 19. And 26 minutes, 11 rebounds, two assists. Only one block. He was plus 13. Look, they're good. They're really good. And you get into the paint and you know, you got seven, four and a half.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Behind you. He's athletic. He's not a. He's not a. Just a statue. He's not a C mix. He's fluid.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

He move. Hey, ain't so funny for him to be that tall. To be that tall. He moves like he's 6, 3, 6 4. And being able to handle the ball like that, that's not. That's not supposed to happen. You're not supposed. You're not supposed to be that tall.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, but they did a. They did an unbelievable job. Man, this team is good. Look, R.C. buford has done a great job. The. The picks that he's drafted combined with the free agents, you know, getting a Harrison Barnes and a Luke Cornette and. And making the trade for Dear and Fox, you know, hey, they're good and they're young. Really, really young. So I don't think people really appreciate somebody. One like the Bulls. 73 or what, whatever they was 72 and 10. And then. Then Golden State goes 73 and nine. The only thing that you know, it had been the greatest season ever had they won the championship, but they didn't win it. So 72 and 10 and winning the championship is better than 73 and 9 and, and not. But spurs gonna be a tough out, man. Spurs gonna be a tough fight for anybody.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I mean, listen, there'll be a tough out for anybody. But can they beat, can they beat them in a seven game series? Now I understand.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, they beat them three times because see anybody like, like when they beat, like when they beat him, Ocho, in the NBA cup out here in Vegas, like, okay, yeah, everybody's like, man, look at Spanish. I said, that's one game. You need to beat him three times. Well, they beating them three times.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, okay. I don't know. Last time I checked, everybody said Shay and Shay and company was repeating. They was. They were. They're gonna, they're going back to back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There's a reason why back to backs are hard. Really hard.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

So who you got, who, who you got to win championship this year if it's, if it's not Shay and company?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, for me, if you make me pick, I would say it's going to be somebody out of the West. The Knicks are the best team the Knicks are the best team in the east because Brunson is playing out of his mind again. Cat is playing extremely well. He just got engaged. Congratulations, Cat. Josh Hart is doing Josh Hart things. They just got a nice rotation. Mike Brown hasn't playing well. Mike Brown has them playing extremely well. But look when you look at it. Spurs, okc, Denver, those are the cream of the crop in the West.

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[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, the Pistons are tough. I love K. Kunaham Ocho Shiloh Sanders went to his father's Coach Prime's house And noticed he didn't get any gifts for Christmas. But all the gifts were from Karrueche, Coach Prime's girlfriend. Let's take a listen to the video. This actually has a tree. That means Karochi is doing her thing. Cuz this is not just his idea. He's in there sleep right now. I hear someone up. And my name's not on none of this, bro. I'm going home, bro. Everything says Ms. K on here. That means she has so much stuff. All this is just for her. I didn't get anything. Bucky has three gifts already, bro. I don't think I have anything. Hey, I'm trying to figure out. He got Bucky. He got Bucky in on his shit.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That's funny though. Hey, that's funny. Hey, you know, no, no. No matter how old you get, you always. You're always expecting that gift from Pops, man. You always expecting that gift from Pop. That's. That's funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do you. Do you ever get too old to start stop buying gifts?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

No, I don't think so. I don't think so. But I've gotten to the point where there's really nothing anyone else can give me that. That I would need. So I'm in a position now where I prefer to be the one doing the giving. I tell my kids, you've been the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

One doing the giving. What the hell you mean you prefer to be the giving?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

My. As my kids have gotten older, you prefer to give? Yeah, I told my kids, man, listen, that man, daddy don't need nothing for Christmas. You know what I want? You ain't gonna be able to get. I. I saw. I saw a super yacht. Super yacht. It was. Oh, it was only 329 million. And if that's something y' all want to get for me, y' all can get your daddy that. But that's. That's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, they need that. They need. Had a bit in Arkansas and had that Powerball ticket.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

There we go. So I told him, man, listen, Daddy don't need none, man. You. If you. If you want to get some anyway. I mean, listen, I like. I like underwear. I like underwear from. I like Hanes from Target. I like my Haynes tank tops, you know, from Target. And I like my Hue socks from Amazon. And that's. That's pretty much it. Outside of that, I don't. I don't. I don't need no gifts. Never did. Kids had. The kids had a time today. Oh, they had. Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't getting no gift. Huh? Kids ain't send me nothing. They didn't nothing.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You might want to. You might want to check. Check Your check, your PayPal check, your Apple pay, your cash app.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They ain't gonna say that. Cause I ain't got no PayPal apple.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay, you get, you got a text message.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay. There you go. There you. There you go. There you go. Let me long. Long as. Yeah, you got that. That's a good. That's a good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, ain't no longer nothing.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, so you wanted a gift. Oh, what the hell your kids gonna get you that you don't already have or ain't had before? Think about it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

More of what I've already got. Herman's bag. Chip in together. Get your dad. Herman's bag.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

How much it cost? Just give. Just a roundabout number.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It all depends on what you're getting. I mean, probably the cheapest something you probably can get is, I don't know, maybe five. Oh my God.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

For a bag?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Hell, I want one of the more croc. I want one of those big old croc bags that'll say Quan and Stefan Diggs be carrying. They need to get me one of those. One of those cognac colors.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Nah, you're not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's that, that color.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

How much you think? How much you think them run? Oh, what, A hundred? Who? American dollars?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. 100 million?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hell you say. I know somebody will make one for you, you know, you won't nobody be able to tell the difference.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, they can't. They can't. They can't make that. They can't make, they can't make that, that, that, that gold or that sterling silver buckle, that hardware.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Chris Olave]

I'm gonna go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That what I want.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay. I like it. I like it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If I don't, I ain't gonna lose no sleep. I don't get it. I'm gonna be sleeping good one way or another.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah. But no, I'm good. Like I said, I thought I talked key with the last one I talked to and the, the grands were in the bed. You know, he was over there with his, He and his, his Rebecca, his wife, my daughter in law. They went to his mom and her mom when they went over there, you know, with the grandkids and everything. So it was cool.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That's dope. I mean, I have, I got all, I got all the kids here with me. Yeah, all of them. Hey, Unc boy, my plate. My place look a mess, boy. Oh my God, it's really bad. It's so bad. I asked lady who, who does, who does the cleaning? Like, listen, I don't mean to bother you. I know it's Christmas, but Mom, you, you got to come. You, you got to come because I, I can't do this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh. Tomorrow. Yeah. My people not coming tomorrow either. So it's gonna be, it's gonna be tough. But, you know, I, I, but the thing is, I forgot Ocho, the trash come on Fridays and I got, we got off Thursday night. I was like, man, I woke up in a panic. Yeah, outside he was beep beep. He was going down the road.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, you missed him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Dang missed him not.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Trash piled up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sky high. But I, I, it's out there now. I made sure I ain't missing that this time around. You with that trash or. I was gonna be a somebody else gonna be. I was gonna take my bags and put them in somebody else's trash can. Oh, it's time to play Player Fade Presented by PR. Justin Herbert to throw for less than 205 yard. 212 yards against that Texans defense. Justin Herbert is one of the most sacked quarterbacks in the NFL. Barnett, Will Anderson Jr. They got Will Anderson Jr. They got. What's they got from the Neil Hunter. Yeah. What'd you think, Ocho?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That's tough one. That's a tough one. I mean even, even as great as that offense is, Justin Herbert has still been able to put up yards through the air and it ain't nothing for him to get 212. That ain't nothing. That's. I'm leave that one on you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna say no. All right. I'm going under. I'm going under. Kyle Fairborn, more than eight and a half fantasy points. So, so field goals count as three points, right?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna say yes. Yes. I say get three field goals and a PAT. Yes. Zay Flowers, 45, 46 yards receiving against the Packers.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hell yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. It looks like Huntley. Huntley is going to be starting is trending in that direction. Lamar did not practice today. He didn't practice yesterday. That probably they said look like it's a great chance that he doesn't practice tomorrow. So if he doesn't practice tomorrow, he's out.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I would. You, you play. You play with me. Leaking stuff to the media and Mike Preston. I wouldn't play either. Yeah, we. Yeah, you want to play? Okay. We could play. Go ahead.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Romeo Dobbs More than 36 yards receiving versus the Ravens against that rate. Against that Raven secondary. Yeah, more than that. Yep. So I' ma say less for Justin Herbert. I'm gonna say more for Kyle Fairborn. I'm gonna say more for Zay Flowers. Romeo should do 36. That ain't too much. 25 to win. 150. Download the app today. Use code SHANNON to get 50 in lineups after you play your first five dollar lineup. Prize picks. It's good to be right. All right, Ocho, we're gonna get you hated on this one. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Doctor Frankie L. Bellamy said. Hey, fam. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas to you too, doc. You and yours. They said that 1.8 million billion dollar Powerball ticket was sold in Arkansas. Oh, if Joe ain't on here. I don't know, Ocho. Joe was supposed to be on here tonight.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, that Joe Mighty, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't saying he wanted, but it might be a sign.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, that's how. That's how it be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now if he ain't on here, next win.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You know what time it is?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yep. Joe wanted. Kemper, Norwood Jr. Say hello, Ocho. Just wanted to say Merry Christmas. Love y'.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Love you too, Kemper. Thank you for tuning in. Thank you for being so faithful. El Pray 98 hey, Ocho, what you know about Ben Arfa, bro?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

What you know, bro? What you know about Ben, man?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know. I don't know nothing about being what you know.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, hey. Ben is. Ben Unk is one of the most skillful players that has ever played the game. So to give you better context, right? Better context in football terms, he would be like, who was very flashy. Oh, my goodness, that. That's hard. Like a Darren Sprouls in open field or a Dante hall in open field. And when he gets the ball, you know, I'm. I'm trying to think of a comparison without. Without naming a player that's is like super great and super elite. But he was. Hey, he was I. Skillful. Very skillful.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got no chill, Ocho. It's Christmas time to pay UNC that 5900.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Listen, hey, listen, man. Hey, hey, hey, y'. All. Y' all need to stop acting like the feds and snitching, man. Y', all, you know, like, come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, thank y' all for reminding me. And I ain't got my money yet. Panthers prime podcast keep pounding TG072185 Merry Christmas to you and your family, guys. I think the Bronco Chief proves divisional Games are always tough. They absolutely are. Having played the Chi. I was in that division, obviously, playing the Chief, playing the Raiders, they were always tough. They were always tough. But, you know, we cracked them. You know, we go ahead and jump on them. You gotta kill a net with a sledgehammer. You can't give a team that don't have anything to play for, something to play for, like beating your ass or kicking you out or dropping you down a peg so you don't get the slot or the seating that you want. You gotta jump on the team early. That's what we did. We played. We played the Chiefs. We played the Chargers or Kansas. Excuse me, the Raiders. We got to get on them jokers early. Especially when you got something to play for and they don't because they like nothing more than to mess your whole season up. Triple X Cop Saturday. Did you get your 5,900? If so, disregard this. This super chat. If not, Ocho, got to catch on. Hands, man. I noticed. I noticed this Haitian lady, She said. Oh, she said all. She said, all I need is.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, she says, shannon, I had him on his hands and knees and is he asking his hands what's wrong with him?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I'm just saying, my God don't play that way. Hey, hey, hey, listen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But the Bible, they. They know.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Let me tell you something. Ain't no spells. It ain't no formulas. And nothing, nothing formed against me shall prosper.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh? It ain't gonna prosper. I just. I just want you. Hey, I just want you to question, man. If I pay uncust with this thing, will my back start hurting?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I told you. I told you. I got you. The holiday's over now. My kid straight.

[Chris Olave]

I'm good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Your boy Sammy Armor Ross was complaining on the Christmas. Boy, give that chick and I'll suit up like, bro. Come on, get that bread while you can. It Sounds good. Tyler Hamilton, 6 UNC. Oo. Merry Christmas. Oo. My cousin played at Marshall. Played with your nephew. Pie. Small world up. You can come down to low country, Hilton Head and go fishing with me and pops. Man, I, you know, I've been over, you know, been on Hilton Head a couple of times. You know what I'm saying? You know, right across the bridge. You know, right across the town bridge. I go across there, you know, I do something.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Who is that? Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, I ain't. I ain't uncle. I ain't never been to South Carolina.

[Shannon Sharpe]

God, no.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You haven't. No, I mean, I'm sure It's fun. I'm sure it's a lot to do. I mean, I would like to visit, you know, now that they. They extended the invite. I have no problem. You know me. Don't. Don't invite me nowhere.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Charleston, Myrtle Beach.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, Myrtle beach is where they had a motorcycle thing, huh? You know, the motorcycle thing in. In Myrtle beach, right? Bike week or bike something. Yeah, Myrtle Beach. I know I ain't never been, but I know that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Caleb Robinson. Hey, Broncos only, bro. Our Broncos only making the divisional round. If they get the number one seed, they definitely got to play better than what they've been playing the last. The last couple of weeks. Marcus, we looking at that laportier in St. Louis. Hooks us up. Go Broncos. Ocho, we play for them Bengals and Dolphins. I ain't praying for. I ain't doing it. Shakur85 say, Merry Christmas, Uncle Nocho. Can y' all shout out my little Yay. She got me tickets to see my first game and got me a signed Ocho jersey. Love your nightcap. Yeah, Lil. Yay. Shakur said, hey, he wanted to shout you out. I mean, it'd been nice to have a name, but, hey, we ain't getting no name. So. Thank you for getting them a jersey. Tickets to the game. You got him assigned Ocho jersey. He said he can't thank you enough. And one of the best, best Christmas gifts he's ever had. Junior underscore. Cool cat. Merry Christmas, Uncle Nocho. My Spurs keep BTA to OKC3.0. Do you think San Antonio is a championship team? They're a little young. They're not battle tested yet. You see, OKC had to get upset, and then they come back stronger. Normally, that's what happens. But hey, they're playing extremely well. They're not going to be an easy out. They are not an easy out. And they're playing extremely well right now, so we'll see if they can keep it up. But 23 and 7 and 12 and 5 on the road, yeah, they're. They're a good team. They're gonna. They're gonna be a tough out now. They're gonna be a really tough out. Shakur85 I'd rather kept Sam Darnold even being suspect in the playoffs. I believe you can build around that and win a couple of playoff games with either, rather than a whole new quarterback who can't finish a season for you. I agree. I agree they made a mistake. I think the thing is, they realized that they made a mistake, but there's nothing they can do about it now because Seattle's not gonna let you get him back. So if you go back into the market, Ocho try to find a free agent quarterback or you draft the quarterback or you got. You're content with the guy you have, but you can't. Based on the last two years, the first year missed the entire season. And he's been in and out of the lineup this season. And when he's been in the lineup, his play has been spotty. So you can't feel comfortable with what you have. Dennis Hartley wife got me a nightcap hat and a tea for Christmas Dub. Thank you. Dennis, thank you for your support. Thank you for your eyes. And wife, thank you for purchasing merch. We greatly appreciate that. Almighty James Uncle. Ooh. You think OO would have locked you up? Yeah, yeah. If he was a correction officer. Damn sure. Not on the football field, man. Oh, yo, too little.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That's why. That's why I would have won. It's not know how to play my game. I'm not gonna play. I'm not gonna play your game and be physical up there. I'm a beat you in where my strengths are, huh? I'm gonna back up. I'm gonna back up off for you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You better. So you gonna let me catch it?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, I'm gonna break on the ball before you knock. Hey, Unc, I would have knocked your helmet off, man, if I wasn't playing defense.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What? At 165.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I was 220 when I played.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now, well, that's a big ass.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I will hell when I was well, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Steeler Pat86. The AFC is wide open. Doesn't seem like there's a superior team that you don't want to play. Look, hell, everybody got at least three losses. So on a given Sunday, I mean, we've seen, look, the Raiders beat the Pats. We've seen less teams beat Buffalo. We see the Broncos get beat.

[Chris Olave]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, look, any given Sunday, think about it. Carolina beat the Rams.

[Chris Olave]

Dang.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, it's Maddie. El Gacho. What changes are my Chiefs football team gonna make to rebuild the dynasty? Jetta, come to kc please. Happy, happy criminal fellas. They're gonna get some receivers. They're gonna ask Trav what he's going to do me. First thing I'll do, I would ask in Atlanta what y' all want to do with Cal.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I would definitely do with that offensive line. They. They've got number one rule. Number one thing. They got to get A running back. They got to get a running back. But they need a lot. Oh, yeah, because they've let. Because when you win, OO you figure like, okay, we good. We good. They need running back, they need o line, they need receiver. They need some safeties. What are they gonna do with McDuffie?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Receiver.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Lanny Ray. Ah, damn. Laney, where you been? Hadn't heard from you in a while. Merry Christmas to you guys and the entire nightcap fam. So what should the Vikings do at quarterback next year? Help scold? They're gonna be. I think. I personally think, Laney, they're going to be in the market for a quarterback. I do.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I mean, you got to be there. They don't have a choice, huh? Because ain't ain't no way in hell. 18 having this kind of patient going in the next year, going through this. That ain't happening.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't you look what I pulled you about. Old saying across black diamonds.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, you. Hey, one thing about it, see it. Hey, it'd be subtle signs like that that let people know you got real money. Not just any kind of money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I had this thing, man. I had this thing like 10, 12.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

So what does that tell you? That that makes. That makes my point and statement that even more the. That even more true. Hey, hey, you saw the Lion King.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You did? Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay. What did Simba say to the bus driver?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Lord have mercy.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

What did Simba say to the bus driver?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What December say to the bus driver?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Ocho, move faster.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Cali. 1, 2, 3, 4. Travis Kelsey ain't deserved the Pro bowl either. I mean, okay, they put in Brock Bowers, who missed a lot of time, and he's on IR now. I mean, so, so at afc, what Titans, what tight ends do you think should have gone? Because if you put somebody in, you got to take somebody out, right? So, I mean, I. I. What tidy. What, what tidy is. I mean, really. I mean, I guess Knox or Kincaid up in. In. In. In Buffalo. I mean, but what, what tight end? Ocho, when you, when you scour. When you look around the league, I mean, the, the NFC was easy, McBride and Kittle. Really, really easy. You know, there. I mean, the first alternate probably is pits right in Atlanta. But the thing about the Pro Bowl. I don't know, Ocho. I was. I was the first. I was first alternate twice in 2000, my first year in Baltimore, I thought I should have went go back and look at the numbers. In 2003, my last year in Denver, I thought I Should have went. I had more catches, more yards, more touchdowns than Heat and we went to the playoffs. They did and I didn't go. I was first starting there, so I should have been at least a 10 time Pro Bowler. But it happens. What you gonna do? What, what could I do? Nothing. I'm an eight time Pro Bowler. All right. I don't think being a, I don't me personally, Ocho, I don't think being a 10 time Pro Bowler as opposed to an 8 time Pro Bowler would change somebody's perception of me. Central cast. Ocho, I'm ready to be your assistant, man. Where can I apply? I already tried to go through social media and you haven't replied. Oo, I really want that position. How can I get it? I've tried everything. I'm ready to work.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, I, I feel you. But the, the position hasn't been filled yet. But right now I'm interviewing someone. This is somewhat of a lengthy interview, so we're gonna, we're gonna see how this goes and see if things work out. Being that they're already attached to my hip anyway, so it just makes sense, you know, So I just need to make sure and understand that she knows how to do all the, all the things that I need done to make sure I can, I can take my level of, of, of of what I'm looking for here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

She can take you to even higher levels.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yes. In all areas and facets when it comes to nightcap. Yeah, yeah, I'm feeling good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Trip Trill Brown said. Ocho, Merry Christmas. Always enjoy to watch your solid duo podcast and salute y' all and don't be scared to pop Your ish in 26. Y' all deserve it. Appreciate that trio. Thank you for the support Ultra. And I definitely gonna be on 1 in 26. Mikey Jones, UNC, if the season was on the line, you were on the team's franchise player and you got need in the back. Would you sit out or shoot up and do everything you could to be there for your team? Well, you asking me, you already know what I would do. But that's not, that's not, that's. And I don't take offense to anybody else that don't. That wouldn't do that because maybe, maybe they're not wired like everybody was. Everybody didn't. Don't look at things. Look at, see things through my lens and I don't see things through their lens. So I'm not here to tell him what he should or what he shouldn't do. I'm just telling you. Yes. Yeah, I'm shooting up. That's just me, though. I don't knock anybody that didn't shoot up and I don't look at them differently if they don't shoot up. I'm saying, yeah, I'm going. I'm trying to do everything I possibly can to go out there. Yes.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bear gang. Imagine if the Cowboys had all those turnovers that the Lions had today. Boy would have had spent 40 minutes tearing the Cowboys apart. Cowboys, stay on your mind like an ex that got away. Love the show. Very gang. Y' all going home just like the damn Lions. Okay, Your office is sensational. What about your defense? What about your defense, bro? You going home. You're missing the playoff for the second year in a row with a 4,000 yard passer, two 1,000 yard rusher, I mean receivers and a thousand yard rusher and you're going home. What are you talking about? When we talk about the Cowboys, we stay on your mind. When we don't talk about the Cowboys, you bring us the topic. The Cowboys are in the same situation as the Lions. At least the Lions had a chance to still make the playoffs. You were done last week. Actually, you were done like three weeks ago. Nobody thought you were going to the playoffs but you and y' all demented Cowboy fans.

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Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh? There's a truth they believe every year. Guess what?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

It's their year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Year 31. It's been a generation. They have. There are 16. Oh, there are 16 teams in each conference. Name the only one that hadn't played in the NFC championship game in the last 30 years.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I give you one guess. 15 of the 16 have. There's one that hasn't. Okay, Appreciate that. There'll be a game. Thank God I'm black. Bo nicks, Michael Penny Jr. Shador, Cam Ward, Caleb Williams, all starting on NFL now from 23, PAC 10 season. You never. You never remember a conference putting in quarterbacks like that from one season. Where was Cam Ward? Who the Cam. Where did Cam Ward come from? Washington.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Where was it? Damn. I forgot where he was at before he transferred.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cause I know Bo Nicks with that Oregon. Michael Penix Jr. Was at Washington. Shador was at Colorado. Caleb Williams was at usc. Where was Cam Ward at Washington State?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I ain't know that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I ain't know that. Well, Guy, how do you. How did he get. How the hell he got away from Washington State? Way to, um.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nil. Oh, Tyler Newton. We went to kc, Beat the refs and the Chiefs on three days Notice while we were banged up. Put some respect on the Broncos name. They ain't easy. Today's NFL wreck with Kelsey and Swift Christmas script. Man, y' all leak, man, look here. Y' all blame everything on that lady. She ain't done nothing. She has not done a thing. Cause guess what? If they show her, they showed her too much. When they don't show her, where is she at? She ain't bothered no bad. Let that man support her, man. Man, they don't put nobody else, girlfriend or wife or fiance. Okay, who else? Girlfriend, wife or fiance? Taylor Swift. No disrespect, but I assure you, if somebody was dating a professional athlete, was dating Beyonce or somebody of that caliber, guess what they're gonna be. What's. What they gonna show. Thank you, man. Y' all need to stop. Y' all know damn well how to stay. Y' all know how this thing work. Y' all make it seem like y' all don't. You do. Hot water, cornbread. 50. Can you give my cousin Jeremiah, Jeremiah Hosie, a shout out? Four time Division 2 champ at Ferris State. Yes. Jeremiah. Congratulations, man. A four time D2 champ at Ferris State. Yeah, they. They've been good, Ocho. Fair State. They real good. I. I can't even. Can't even hold them on that. They. They like that.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Where Fair State at, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't start me lying now. I just know they good. I've seen them before. I don't know where they at. This. I'm looking at this game as an overtime. Oo, the Timberwolves and the Nuggets. Nicola Jokic got 41. 15. What? 41? 15 and 15. Jamal Murray got 31. Tim Hardaway Jr got 19. But hey, Julius Randle got 30. Ant man got.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Damn. So ain't nobody playing defense?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nope. Nope.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

What a boy that. Hey, them boy. Boy that. They're hooping, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't never seen anything like Nicola Jokic.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

He nice boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't never seen anything like this. This is nice. The man 13 of 19. The man took 19 shots and got 41 points.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Three or five from the three point line. A perfect from the free throw line. 15 points and 15 assists. I mean, 15 rebounds and 15 assists. It's crazy. It is. CR AJ4L Merry Christmas night, Cap. Oo. I bet I could get your camera quality up to par before the next show. I'll come down to Miami for a live trial interview for the position.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everybody try right now. Ocho say he gonna put the job up Right now Cambodia is in the lead position to get the job. He just wanted to try, he gonna try to see if she can do everything and, and, and, and have everything to set the satisfactory. Jack Jones I'm an OKC fan. I don't want to see the spurs until the Western Conference final come playoff time. They, they definitely don't feel fear. You guys. Jacorian. Jacorian. What's up Uncle Nocho? Can y' all wish my family, the Dow family. Corey, Michaela, Craig, Cameron, Darius, Darius, Bella, Ria, Maddie Bailey, Granny and Pops and Merry Christmas. Love the show. Absolutely. To the Dow family. Corey, Michaela, Craig, Cameron, Darius, Bella, Ria, Maddie Bailey, Granny and Pops. Merry Merry Christmas from Uncle Nocho and the Nightcap family. Hopefully you guys had a very, very Merry Christmas. Angie Carr if NFL players played for their home home state town, which state would you have or would would have won the most Super Bowls Also if, what if losing teams could loan their players like to other teams for the playoffs like soccer does? Hell no. Oh, probably California or Florida. Most Super Bowls. I'm so probably California. I think California, Texas or Florida because California because of size, Texas because of size. It'd be interesting to see though, but I think, I think it's California. Look, we already know the states that put the most players. California, Texas, Georgia, Florida. California, Texas, Georgia, Florida. What you think? Louisiana, Ohio.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I mean the, the top three. Obviously it would be Florida, Florida, Louisiana, Texas. And then following right behind them. I'm talking not far behind Louisiana, obviously.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You forgetting Georgia.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Georgia.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

George, George is up there. Georgia's up there too. But, but not top three. Not, not top three. They'll be, they'll be in that, that tier two. That tier two with, you know, with.

[Shannon Sharpe]

New Orleans, they might have what I mean Texas might have like one or both. Texas might have a quarterback situation on lock, but we right there with them. Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, we, we, we gonna provide the speed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

ZZJ HD Merry Christmas Uncle Nocho. My gift was a 77 jersey. Shaking my head. Hey, that ain't a bad thing. Hopefully you can get down to the Lakers gang and get a game and get inside. CGM58 Merry Christmas. Thank you for the content. Prediction for the Super Bowl. My home team is the Browns. So prediction for the next year. I think Stefanski has to go. There's a good chance he probably will go. Guess they want to see how this thing finishes up. Look, he's a two time coach of the year. He can coach. I'm not so sure that the, the, the player I don't know how much control he has over the roster.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oo to be honest, probably not much. Honestly, probably not much.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So with that being said, Out of the nfc, I still think the Rams would be my pick. You might have the seat. You might have Seattle or the 49ers because all those teams look good.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Every last one. Hey, God damn Stafford, man. Jesus, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If I had to bet money, I'd take the Rams in Buffalo. But I ain't got to bet no money. So thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. That is my partner and co host, Liberty City's own Bingo's Ring of Fame honoree. A former Pro Bowler and an All Pro. He's Chad Ocho. Cinco Johnson. Now Jokic got 46. Ocho, wait. Might go into another overtime. Okay, okay, okay, okay then overtime. Yes. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We would like to thank each and every one of you for sharing sharing your Christmas evening with us. You could have been listening to a lot of other pods. You could have been doing a lot of other things. You could have even been in the bed or with family, friends and loved ones. But you show chose to spend a few hours with Ocho and I and we greatly, greatly appreciate that. Check out My Shade by laportier. If you're looking to purchase a bottle and you can't find it in a state or city near you, head to laportiercognac.com to order you a bottle. This is the OG bottle which is a 750. This is now the 375. The same great quality, the same great taste, the same smoothness going down. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Go check out my media company on all of its platforms. That's Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84 with 84 being spelled out. Thank you guys again for joining us. As you watch the Broncos win very ugly ball game against division rival Kansas City. But they did win by the score of 20 to 13. The Lions playoff chances disappeared thanks to a 23:10 loss to the Minnesota Vikings. Detroit turned the ball over six times, five by Jerry Goff. Two interceptions and three fumbles lost. And the Dallas Cowboys were eliminated from the playoffs last week. But they beat the commanders 30 to 23. Dak had over 300 yards passing. They had 100 yard rusher and pick play really well, but it was the big play to kavonte Turpin for 86 yards, which is the largest pass play on Christmas. And they win, 30 to 23. I'm unk. He's oo. We're back on Saturday. We're off tomorrow. Friday we're off again, but we're back Saturday. Thank you guys for spending Christmas with us. We can't thank you enough. I'm uno. See you Saturday. Foreign.

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[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

All.

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[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Mmm.

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