Host 2 (Ocho) (2:46)

She. You muted? You muted?

Host 1 (2:48)

You muted? He might be some kid to me. He don't understand technology. Yeah, that my cousin. They're not my cousin, y'. All. He's muted right now. Chat. So he's trying to get. He's trying to get connected. If, man, you young, you're supposed to be able to know how to handle that.

Host 2 (Ocho) (3:38)

If I.

Host 1 (3:41)

The unmute button should be bottom left.

Host 2 (Ocho) (3:49)

He's in the laptop.

Host 1 (4:01)

Yeah, we gonna get this. We gonna get this figured out shortly.

Dana White (4:05)

You a.

Host 1 (4:05)

You ain't got no tech guy there with you, Ra.

Odoo Advertiser (4:10)

He.

Host 1 (4:10)

He hear us. Ocho. He. That my cousin right there. Chat.

Dana White (4:14)

Because he don't know.

Host 1 (4:15)

He don't know issue about technology either.

Host 2 (Ocho) (4:19)

Hold on.

Rasheed Shahid (4:20)

Let me.

Host 2 (Ocho) (4:20)

Let me. Let me use the bathroom real quick.

Host 1 (4:22)

Go ahead. Can a Christian walk him through it? This is what you get when you get live television, people, things. Everything doesn't go always without a glitch. A mute should be bottom. You want to log out and log back in, Huh? Oh, he done froze now. Yeah, yeah, there we go. See, I know. My cousin. My cousin got it. I knew my cousin could figure it out.

Host 2 (Ocho) (5:31)

Okay. She was good. She was good. What, man? I'm here, man. Just watching you, man, with a smile on my face. Every time I see. Hey, tell me what that feeling is like. Obviously, to go from. To go from New Orleans, things were, eh. It wasn't what it. It wasn't what you would like. You get over there, down there to Seattle, man. What does it feel like to be the reason and part of the reason for the success that y' all have been having lately?

Rasheed Shahid (5:58)

It's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful thing. I've enjoyed my time here in Seattle so far, man. The way the city, the team has embraced me. It made the transition so smooth, and it's been nothing but a great time, man. So the shout out to. To my coaches and my. My teammates, man, it's. It's been a hell of a ride so far.

Host 2 (Ocho) (6:16)

That's dope.

Host 1 (6:16)

That's live to go from New Orleans. And now you're one game away. I mean, when you. You watched the super bowl growing up as a kid, and now you're one game away from being in that. In that game. And as Ocho said, you jump started it with that punt return against the Rams. Now, we don't know. You could have gone on the road and still have a level of success, but the road would have probably been a lot more difficult because instead of playing Two games and getting to the super bowl, you'd have had to play three games. And then, as I mentioned, in the lead in. You ended that game 13 seconds against 49ers.

Host 2 (Ocho) (6:51)

Hey, game was over.

Host 1 (6:52)

Because once you returned that kick, it was over.

Host 2 (Ocho) (6:54)

The game was over.

Host 1 (6:56)

You could. You saw it on their sideline. You saw it. Their body language change. It was over from that point. So now, what made you. What did the. The coach call you? You had a white return, a middle wedge. What. What. What the coach call? And when did you see, like, I can get this. A house call.

Rasheed Shahid (7:12)

Yeah, that specific return on the Rams, we kind of knew that the left side was kind of their. Their weak side, and we called the left return at a. At a perfect time. Man, shout out to my special teams coach. He's a genius. And we made the play work. And as soon as I broke through, kind of. I made the cut of the field, and I knew I could crib it.

Host 1 (7:35)

And the 49ers, also, because I mentioned the Rams on that Thursday night, you guys were behind the whole night. It was like, when you returned that punt, it was like. It was. I mean, just like, everybody got energized. And in the 49ers game, the kickoff, you know, bro, I'm like, 13 seconds, the game's over. I mean, normally you like, we gonna play, but they never. They were never able to recover.

Dana White (7:59)

And.

Host 1 (8:00)

And you've been doing your thing also. They hand you the ball, they'll throw you the ball. They're using you like you always envision, and they used you early like that in your career in New Orleans. But now to get an opportunity to go to play where you're being used on a team that's really good, with a chance to get to the Super Bowl.

Rasheed Shahid (8:18)

Yeah. No, these are the opportunities that you kind of dream about, you know, as a player growing up. I mean, to. To be in this game coming up, it's. It's. It's going to be like a dream. As soon as I step on the field, man, it's going to be. All the lights are going to be on. I'm gonna be excited. Everybody's going to be excited. These are the games that you work so hard for, so it's just a blessing to be a part of this team, man. This team has worked so hard to get to this point, and we learned this.

Host 2 (Ocho) (8:41)

Yeah. What is the tr. What is the transition like, been like for you? You know, from a. From a offensive perspective, being able to transition from New Orleans to Seattle and. And Being able to pick up the system. Has it been difficult? Is everything still easy? The terminology?

Rasheed Shahid (8:55)

Yeah.

Host 2 (Ocho) (8:56)

How is it?

Rasheed Shahid (8:57)

It's been smooth. Thankfully, I. I came into a system that I'm pretty familiar with with New Orleans last year.

Host 1 (9:02)

Right.

Rasheed Shahid (9:03)

I had Coach Cool with him in New Orleans for about seven games. So it took me about a week to kind of hear the language, get formations, right? And once you get the formations, everything kind of just flows. And it's been a smooth transition. Yeah.

Host 1 (9:17)

So where were you when you got the call, Rasheed? Who told you? I mean, did you. Did you see it scrolling on the media? So where were you when you got the call that you were no longer going to be a New Orleans Saints and you was headed to the Pacific Northwest to be able to be a Seattle Seahawk?

Rasheed Shahid (9:34)

Crazy story. So I. I was pulling in to the Saints facility. I was on my way to get some body work done to get in the tubs, you know what I'm saying, on my off day. And I get the call as I'm pulling in, and it was my financial advisor who called me before anybody else, and he kind of said. He said, what do you say? He said, there's no finance. There's no state tax in Seattle. I'm like, what are you talking about? And then he kind of broke the news. He was like, oh, you don't know. He told me so that. That was my first, you know, introduction to all this. And it was so many emotions. It was so many, you know, so much going on in my head.

Host 1 (10:10)

But, you know, you ain't gonna get no work. You're like, what? Hell, I'll go with this last. I'm gonna go get this free last work. I'm gonna get the cold tub, get me?

Rasheed Shahid (10:17)

Yeah, well, they said I had. I had to have my bags packed and ready to go in like, four hours. So I didn't have no time to say Michael and I had it. I had to go, hey, that's dope, man.

Host 1 (10:28)

That's. That's unbelievable. So now you get there and you mentioned, like, you had Clint. I've known Clint. His dad was my quarterback and my office to coordinator Denver. So I've known him since he's like 7, 8 years old. And to see how he's able to attack you guys with JSN and yourself and all those guys, you run the football. What's it been like? Because like you said, you had him for a little while. You had him for like seven games when he was calling plays in New Orleans, and now he has complete control of this offense. And he trusts Sam Donald. He trusts you guys implicitly.

Rasheed Shahid (11:03)

Yeah. Like you just said, he trusts us, and he believes in us, and he lets us. He lets us know that each and every week. And we come in with the same mindset, and he has an expectation for all of us, and that's to go out and dominate, man. And that's what we do. That's why it's so special to be part of this group, is because we all kind of work together for one goal each and every game, each and every opportunity that we get. You know, we're out there playing for each other, and that's what makes it so special.

Host 1 (11:27)

You do realize that without you, there's a great chance the Seahawks don't have, because you guys were just milling around, just milling around, and then all of a sudden, the shaheed bomb exploded out of there. And then not only did you. You. You get the punt return, they hand it down. I think they hand it to you on, like, third down. They had a handoff to you, and you go 31 yards down the right sideline.

Rasheed Shahid (11:50)

Yes, sir. Yeah. No, that was crazy game. It's an honor to be part of that, you know, moment, being able to bring my team the spark that we needed to, you know, ultimately, you know, be a first seed.

Host 1 (12:04)

Have you been to the market yet? Have you gone where they thought. The market where they catch, where they throw the fish and you get the paper and you catch the fish. Have you caught any fish yet? I did it.

Rasheed Shahid (12:14)

I got a video. I'm waiting to drop it. You know, I'm gonna let everybody know that I've been there.

Host 2 (Ocho) (12:18)

But, hey, did you. Did you catch the fish, though?

Dana White (12:21)

I caught.

Host 2 (Ocho) (12:22)

The first time.

Rasheed Shahid (12:23)

I caught the fish first time.

Host 1 (12:24)

Okay. Okay, here's the thing, Ocho. Did you have paper or was it with the bare hands? Because sometimes they'll give you paper, sometimes they'll let you bare handed.

Rasheed Shahid (12:33)

Bare hands. Bare hands. I wasn't with it at first, though. It was really my mom. My mom was the one who wanted me to go up there and do it. Yo. You know what I'm saying? Mom got to do it. Mom wants me to do it. You got to do it. So.

Dana White (12:45)

So what.

Host 1 (12:45)

What. What type of fish was it?

Rasheed Shahid (12:47)

Oh, man. Salmon. It was a salmon.

Host 1 (12:50)

Okay. Yeah. Okay. Are you. You. You. You. You like seafood? You do eat seafood?

Rasheed Shahid (12:55)

I do. I do, yeah. I'm in the right spot. Sure.

Announcer (12:58)

You.

Host 1 (12:58)

Absolutely. Cause you get it fresh. Coming straight out the Bering Sea.

Rasheed Shahid (13:01)

Yeah.

Host 1 (13:02)

The Alaskan king Crabs. I mean, you name it, they got it. If they got fish, I ain't even heard because I'm up there like, what the hell is that? Yeah, I ain't never heard of that fish or never seen that fish.

Rasheed Shahid (13:13)

Oh, yeah, Great.

Host 2 (Ocho) (13:15)

Hey, you. You. You a healthy eater? Are you, like, big on, you know, eating greens and eating healthy and all that, are you?

Rasheed Shahid (13:21)

I got the ultra method going on. You know, I got the ocean.

Host 1 (13:25)

There you go. She. There you go.

Host 2 (Ocho) (13:27)

No, he said he got the Ocho method going on.

Rasheed Shahid (13:30)

Yeah, I try.

Host 2 (Ocho) (13:30)

I. I've had.

Rasheed Shahid (13:31)

I've known the method for a minute now.

Host 1 (13:33)

There we go.

Host 2 (Ocho) (13:33)

That's what I'm talking about.

Host 1 (13:34)

Let's go.

Host 2 (Ocho) (13:36)

Let's go talk about it.

Host 1 (13:37)

They cook. They cook for y'.

Dana White (13:39)

All.

Host 1 (13:39)

They give y' all breakfast, lunch, and dinner. They cook whatever you want. They cook fish. They cook like, salmon. They cook everything. I mean, nice broccoli and rice and Brussels sprouts and crabs.

Host 2 (Ocho) (13:51)

Everything. Everything. You just.

Host 1 (13:52)

I ain't talking to you. I'm talking to Rasheed.

Host 2 (Ocho) (13:54)

But everything you just name is why everybody keep getting hurt.

Rasheed Shahid (13:58)

Hey, I didn't say that. But, but, but, but we do eat good, though, do we? Good.

Host 1 (14:04)

You don't be eating that fast food. I mean, you. I don't care if you eating unhealthy. You letting the seah. You letting the Seahawks dietitian prepare food, a schooling.

Host 2 (Ocho) (14:13)

What you be eating? Sometimes she.

Rasheed Shahid (14:15)

I'll be eating out sometimes. Sometimes. Sometimes.

Host 1 (14:18)

Yeah. Not like you. Ocho. All the time.

Host 2 (Ocho) (14:21)

Nah, he said sometimes. He. It's called balance. Huh? It's called balance.

Rasheed Shahid (14:25)

You definitely gotta have balance.

Host 2 (Ocho) (14:26)

Thank you.

Rasheed Shahid (14:26)

Gotta have balance.

Host 2 (Ocho) (14:27)

Yeah.

Host 1 (14:27)

Just imagine, Ocho, if I'd have had you. Had you eating right seven, eight time, first team all pro.

Host 2 (Ocho) (14:33)

I was.

Rasheed Shahid (14:35)

And.

Host 1 (14:35)

And I got you. I got you a couple hundred twenty K seasons.

Host 2 (Ocho) (14:38)

Nah, we don't throw the ball that.

Host 1 (14:40)

Much back then you would. You've been me. You'd had to get. I say we got to get Ocho to rock.

Host 2 (Ocho) (14:44)

They won't listen to you.

Host 1 (14:48)

Well, she made. Congratulations, man. Good luck. Stay healthy. Do you like it? Do you like being in Seattle? You want to remain in Seattle?

Rasheed Shahid (14:57)

Yeah, I'm loving it. I'm loving it. I feel like they brought me here for a reason, and that's to stay. So that. That's it. That's it. I'm a Seattle Seahawk.

Host 1 (15:04)

Yeah.

Host 2 (Ocho) (15:04)

Yeah. You married?

Rasheed Shahid (15:05)

No. No, I'm single, man.

Host 1 (15:07)

Are you single?

Host 2 (Ocho) (15:08)

Single, Boy, I got somebody for you, too, bruh.

Rasheed Shahid (15:11)

Let me know.

Host 2 (Ocho) (15:12)

Yeah. She don't speak no English, though.

Host 1 (15:14)

That's okay.

Host 2 (Ocho) (15:15)

Yeah.

Host 1 (15:17)

I told you that my cousin. I told y' all that my cousin. Y' all heard what he said? Yeah, I told you that my cousin.

Host 2 (Ocho) (15:25)

Yeah, I got you. I'm gonna let you focus. I'm gonna let you focus.

Rasheed Shahid (15:28)

Yeah, after y'.

Host 1 (15:28)

All.

Host 2 (Ocho) (15:29)

After y' all win the Super Bowl. Yeah, I got you.

Rasheed Shahid (15:31)

Yeah. Hear me this off season about that and about training, too.

Host 2 (Ocho) (15:35)

Hey, matter of fact, hey, come that.

Rasheed Shahid (15:37)

Come.

Host 2 (Ocho) (15:37)

You know, JSN came to the receiver camp, the other wide receiver workshop last year. Man, come on down here, man.

Rasheed Shahid (15:43)

Hey, let's get a little work in.

Host 2 (Ocho) (15:45)

Okay. Well, definitely.

Host 1 (15:47)

Well, congratulations, man. The trade, everything has worked out brilliantly. You won game. You're one win away from me reaching your ultimate team destination, which is getting to the Super Bowl. So congratulations. Stay healthy. Rashid Shahid, the great return man for the Seattle Seahawks. And he plays a little offense also. Thank you, man. Thanks for joining us, bro.

Rasheed Shahid (16:09)

Appreciate you guys. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

Host 1 (16:11)

Appreciate you, man.

Rasheed Shahid (16:12)

Y.

Host 1 (16:12)

Take care. Oh, man.

Rasheed Shahid (16:16)

All right, fellas.

Host 1 (16:20)

Back to C.J. stroud. Derrick Lewis. You know who Derrick Lewis is, right? Ufc. Black Beast. Oh, yeah.

Host 2 (Ocho) (16:28)

Hey, hey. Matter of fact, hey, I want to fight him.

Host 1 (16:33)

Derek Lewis says CJ Stroud might be cursed. Let's take a listen to the reasons. Ocho. Why he says or why he thinks, what he thinks.

Host 2 (Ocho) (16:41)

Okay. What moves would you like to see the Texans make for next season?

Host 1 (16:44)

I guess we gotta see what's going on with C.J. i think ever since we seen him show up with Amber Rose at the softball game few years ago and Kim Kardashian and all that, I'm like, damn. It might be like a curse for.

Host 2 (Ocho) (17:02)

I don't. I don't. Listen, man, ain't no man, man.

Host 1 (17:05)

I didn't. I didn't know. I ain't know. You gonna say that. OO yeah, that. That.

Host 2 (Ocho) (17:08)

I don't. I don't like that. So just. Just for that, hey, tell Derek Lewis, man, I. He got to see me.

Dana White (17:14)

You hear me?

Host 2 (Ocho) (17:14)

Huh? Like I'm listening. I mean, his. His personal life off the field ain't got nothing to do with. With. On the field. It ain't no goddamn curse. Things just didn't go well. He didn't play well. He knows that. He took accountability for that. So now, Derrick Lewis. Boy, I. I. You got to see me at least three rounds.

Host 1 (17:34)

Three rounds. Three round. I don't. I. I don't even know. OO you'll go around.

Host 2 (Ocho) (17:37)

Hey, hey, un. Let Me tell you something. One thing about it right now. We could talk about NFL players. We can do that. We not gonna have no outsiders, whether you're a fan of the team or not, Disrespecting my young colleagues.

Host 1 (17:53)

He just said he think that there might be. Ocho, this is not the first time that you've heard about the Kardashian curse. It's not.

Host 2 (Ocho) (18:00)

Hey, wait, come on.

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Host 2 (Ocho) (18:02)

We not doing it.

Host 1 (18:03)

I'm not. I'm not doing any validity to it. Let's not pretend that you haven't heard about it.

Host 2 (Ocho) (18:08)

Yeah, but I don't believe in all them. Them super.

Host 1 (18:12)

And he's Ojo. Got to realize he's. He's a. He's a Houstonian.

Host 2 (Ocho) (18:17)

Hey, you know what? Un.

Host 1 (18:18)

What?

Host 2 (Ocho) (18:18)

You making it worse for Derek Lewis, cuz. The more you talk about it, the more I'mma beat his ass. I'm for real, man.

Host 1 (18:25)

We got to go down to Houston, man.

Host 2 (Ocho) (18:27)

Who?

Host 1 (18:28)

Me and you?

Host 2 (Ocho) (18:30)

Me? But the hell you say? I ain't going nowhere.

Host 1 (18:32)

What? That we ain't going to Houston.

Host 2 (Ocho) (18:34)

That's the devil's playground. I just got saved. Two months ago. I just got saved.

Host 1 (18:41)

Hey, I got my pig fork out back. Hey.

Host 2 (Ocho) (18:47)

Oh, hold on, hold on. So, Derek, Derrick Lewis, he in Houston?

Host 1 (18:51)

Yeah, he from Houston.

Host 2 (Ocho) (18:53)

Yeah, I'm had to go see him, boy.

Host 1 (18:55)

I'm had to go see him.

Host 2 (Ocho) (18:56)

They got. Where you train at?

Host 1 (18:59)

You know, he got. They fight Saturday here. He fighting Costa in Vegas. Yes.

Host 2 (Ocho) (19:05)

Okay, Okay, I' ma let it. Hey, hey, Chat. Y' all do me a favor. Tell Derrick Lewis I wish him good luck against Costa, Costa, whoever you got to fight. But after that, after he fight Costa, Costa and win and do whatever he need to do, you got to see me, boy. Octagon boxing ring. MMA wrestling on the ground. Groundwork pounding, man. Whatever you want to do. You ain't finna talk about Stroud like that, boy. Yeah, see, sometimes when they. When. When the big dudes, you know, they feel. They feel safe being able to comment like that. And they. It ain't no pushback because, don't know, everybody's scared of them. So it takes somebody like me, like to kind of set the record straight. Like you ain't. You ain't finna just be able to say what you want to say in front of the camera.

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Host 1 (22:34)

Fight it's now time to wake Up. Welcome Daniel White. We had a great conversation with him a few hours ago. Ocho. So, Chad, check out the conversation that Ocho and I had with the man of the hour, head of the UFC, Mr. Dana White. All right, we got a very special guest joining us, the final boss of the UFC. He's going to tell us about UFC 324, Justin Gaethje versus Patty the baddie Pimblett. Yes. This is UFC's first fight on Paramount. Plus the new landmark deal that was signed in 2025. The first of two back to back marquee events being followed by UFC 325, Volonovsky versus Lope SEC 2, the second on January 31st. Dana, why would. You know the thing in marketing, Dana, never give anything for free that people will pay for. UFC have been pay per view for the longest. Why was it so important for you to sign this deal with Paramount? Plus so UFC would be. People would. If you have a subscription, you'll be able to watch it for free.

Dana White (23:32)

Well, a couple different reasons. First of all, my goal was always I truly believed when I grew up, There was channel three, channel five, channel eight and channel 13.

Host 2 (Ocho) (23:41)

Yeah.

Dana White (23:41)

Then in high school, cable came at HBO and like 30 channels, MTV and all that stuff. I truly believe that as technology got better, there was going to be a channel 3, channel 5, channel 8, and channel 13 again, but it would be global. And I've always felt that, you know, my sport works everywhere. Fighting, everybody gets it, everybody likes it. And if you get the right fight in the right place at the right time, the ceiling is 8 billion. There are 8 billion people in the world. And if you put on the right fight, a lot of people are going to tune in and watch. This is what I've been dreaming of, where everybody could watch the same fight at the same, on the same channel at the same time. So streaming always made sense to me. So I, I was all, yeah.

Host 2 (Ocho) (24:29)

When you talk about making the right fights, when you talk about marketing and branding and wanting to continue to evolve the UFC and going in the right direction, how do you decide what are the right fights that the people want to see?

Dana White (24:43)

First of all, what's up, brother? Good to see you. And you know, it's all about matchmaking. Everything is about matchmaking. You go out and you find the best up and coming young talent in the world that you think has the potential to become a world champion someday. And then as the fights, as you make the fights, they all start to play out. It almost becomes like a soap opera that that's why the UFC has been so successful. Everybody's under contract with us, and, you know, boxing became this thing where if you lost one fight, you lost all your luster and shine.

Host 1 (25:21)

And. Yeah. You know, and it was over.

Dana White (25:23)

Guys lose multiple fights, and when I noticed that people didn't care, they just wanted to see great fights. Was Arturo Gotti. Arturo Gotti would put on these knockdown, drag them out wars, and he kept. And even if he lost, he would sign new big deals with hbo. You know, we want to see. We want to see great fights. We want to see, you know, find that dog in them. And. And, you know, that's why there's trilogies. When there's a great fight, then they do it again. And if it's great again and the other guy wins, you do it a third time. So I. I always believed in this, and I always felt like as long as you match, make. Well, this is what I sell holy moments for a living. So if you put on a fight, the card that night, and you get two, three, four, holy, everybody jumps out of their seat and, you know, goes crazy. Whether you're at home, you're in a bar, or you're there alive, you've had a successful night.

Host 2 (Ocho) (26:20)

When you. When you talk.

Host 1 (26:21)

When you look at.

Host 2 (Ocho) (26:22)

Go ahead, talk about holy moments. When you talk about matchmaking and. And making and putting the right product inside the octagon. Right. Is there a fight that you've always wanted, that you weren't able to. To get accomplished, or one that you see later on in the future that you'd like to see get in the ring? That will obviously be a holy moment.

Dana White (26:41)

Yeah, I mean, you need that. You need that marquee fight, you know, the big one at the top that everybody's like, oh, I've been waiting for this. And then you build a bunch of great fights underneath it. Right. What you really want to do is listen, guys, and I know you both can relate to this. So being a boxing fan, boxing would come in and they put on this show. The main event was all anybody gave a about, Right?

Host 1 (27:06)

Yep.

Dana White (27:06)

And then they build a card under it, and you would stay. More importantly than anything, I'm asking you to stay home. Every Saturday night. Right now you have Friday, and Friday is really not fair because you. You work. You don't get out of work till 5, 6, 7 sometimes, and then you have a very limited time that night. Saturday is your whole day. You got night, you got wife, you got kids. There's a new movie that came out Maybe there's another game that you're interested in, and you have to sit and watch my product, you know, and I have to deliver for you. Now, what boxing would do is they'd come out, you know, once or twice a year, and they put on an event. I'd stay home on Saturday night, and I go, God damn it, they got me again. That was terrible. Right? And there's. It's like a going out of business sale. Every time they put on a fight, they grab as much money as they could get, and then they disappear for a year, and then they come back and we're so stupid, we forgot how bad the last one was, and we did it again. And, you know, that's. That's what I wanted to change when we built the ufc, and it's what I want to change in boxing now. This fight that we're putting on on Friday night on Paramount, plus the whole cards combined record is 227, 9. And the top three fights, everybody's undefeated. So at the end of 2026, and if you're in Zufa boxing and you're still undefeated, it actually really means something.

Host 1 (28:30)

Yeah, you look at 324. When I look at your matchup, you got Justin Gaethje, who has dynamite. He's gonna fight. Patty the baddie. He's gonna fight. You got Waldo Cortez Acosta and Derrick Lewis, the Black Beast. He's gonna fight. You got Sugar Sean o', Malley, who's looking to bounce back. Dana, he's looking to bounce back from a subpar performance last time.

Dana White (28:49)

Oh, Malley loves to knock people out and strike. He's fighting Song Ya Dong who does the same exact thing.

Host 1 (28:56)

Is that what you're looking for? Like. Like in boxing? You were just talking about boxing. You know, for the longest time, people only gave a damn about the heavyweight division. It's not like that in ufc. These smaller guys, all they want to see is action. And you may look, I'm not paying you to come out here and dance around and get a decision. People want to see knockouts. This is why they love the UFC more so than boxing. This is what they expect. An elbow, a spinning kick, a knee or something. Get his ass out of here.

Dana White (29:26)

There's so many different ways to win and so many different ways to lose. It's what makes the sport so exciting. And these kids fight their ass off. And when you talk about again and what does the fight mean? So you. So you can matchmake and make good fights stylistically. But when you look at OMalley. OMalley's ranked number three in the world in the bantamweight division, and Song Dong's number five. So it's a very important fight. That means something with two of the guys that are in the top five. Same thing with Gaethje and Toporia. Those guys are both top. Top five. That's for the interim title. The winner of that fight fights Ilia Toporia for the championship.

Host 2 (Ocho) (30:01)

Nice.

Host 1 (30:02)

So hold on. So, Dave. So hold on. The winner of Gaethje Pimblett fights Toporia, is that gonna be the White House fight that you're gonna make? Is that what's gonna happen? Is that what you're doing?

Dana White (30:14)

So everything we're focused on right now is for the launch this weekend, doing boxing for the first time. You know, first fight on there. Monday, Monday. Every ounce of our focus will be. I've already. I'm in the war room right now. I got the entire Sydney card done. February 7th is done. 21st, 28th March, all these cards are done. They're all lined up. Our entire focus will be the White House fight on Monday.

Host 1 (30:43)

Wow. So do you have it? I. I mean, looks like the. Whoever wins out of gate Pimblet fights the poor. That's look like a White House card. Do you have anything else in mind? I heard you kind of waffle like, okay, Jon Jones versus Pierre. That. That might be a possibility. Do you have any idea? Because this has got. This is 250. This got to be the grandest. And you've done some big events, Dana. This has got to be your biggest, your baddest, your brightest, because the entire world will be watching this.

Dana White (31:16)

Yeah, well, that's the way I feel about every Saturday we go. It's got to be the biggest of the best. But, yes, we need to deliver at the White House for sure. So yesterday, my. My head of production, Craig Borsari, he's been to The White House 10 times now, working with their ops team and my ops team on how to put this thing together. So they did this whole video rendering. Like, it's. It literally shows how the sun will move across the octagon, you know, right early on, what it'll look like when it's dark, like the actual trees and. And everything in. Guys, this is gonna be so bad. The setup that we have on this day, it's just. It's incredible. So much like the sphere, when we did the sphere.

Host 2 (Ocho) (31:57)

Yes, that was nice.

Dana White (31:59)

It's gonna be incredible. And now the fighters just got to come in and deliver.

Host 2 (Ocho) (32:02)

Now you Talk about fighters delivering, right? I want you to picture this, right? You think about the White House card. Stay with me real quick, Dana, just. I want you to envision this, all right? Don't close your eyes, but just envision it. Envision. You have the product, the product in Ocho, right? White House card. We don't know who I'm gonna fight, but you just put me on the card because you understand what I bring to the table and excitement that it can be with the build up of having me. They call me hella hands because I fight so well. Sometimes you think you're fighting two people, right? So, boom, the lights dim, right? And then out of the blue, you hear the music, Litter Skin and Free Bird blasting, right? And then the light starts flickering. Then the smoke comes. Then I. I come up out the smoke, right?

Host 1 (32:49)

Hey.

Host 2 (Ocho) (32:50)

And. And then the. The world. The world is going crazy. The world is going wild. And now all I need is an opponent. Dana, I need you to see my vision.

Host 1 (32:59)

Are you boxing or you. No, ufc.

Host 2 (Ocho) (33:01)

I need to be on the White House card.

Dana White (33:03)

Oh, now you know I love you, okay? You know I love you. This is a really bad idea.

Host 2 (Ocho) (33:12)

I just gave you. I just gave you the vision.

Host 1 (33:17)

Zadana unrelated Nunes and. And Harrison, the fight. Kayla got injured. Is that something that. That might get rescheduled for the White.

Dana White (33:27)

House that, you know, literally the greatest female fight ever made? It's going to depend on. On how Kayla heals from her surgery, so.

Host 1 (33:37)

Okay.

Dana White (33:37)

You know, there are a lot of different factors. Who, when, what time, and all that stuff, but yeah, that would absolutely be something I would put on the White House card if she was ready.

Host 1 (33:47)

325 Volonowski Lopes 2 this is the first time bolognoske as a champ will be fighting on his home soil. Was that important for you? Was that important for him? How did this fight come to be?

Dana White (33:59)

Yeah, I mean, anytime you. You go into these countries, you want, you know, their guys on the card front and center. The other thing is when you go into, you know, place like Australia, they want to see a lot of the other fighters that they don't get to see all the time fight too, so. But yes, I mean, it's. It's a no brainer. I mean, we got him. Co main event is Dan Hooker. Yeah, but the answer is yes, Dana.

Host 1 (34:24)

This boxing thing. And you said, look, here's a sport that's been going on for 100 years, made trillions of. Trillions of dollars and they don't have ish to show for it. And then if you want the belt, you got to pay $300,000 for a belt. And every time you defend the belt, you got to pay another 300 or $200,000 to keep the belt. That's some bull jive. I. I think I can come up with a better model. You see what we did with the ufc, we took a company that was working, we bought it for 2 billion, $2 million, and all we had was UFC in a ring and what we've turned it into. So I believe we can do something similar. Similar for boxing. Is that what your thought process? That's why you got involved with this?

Dana White (35:03)

Well, you want to know what's fascinating? So when we built the ufc, yeah, took everything that I loved about boxing and everything that I hated about boxing, and that's what I incorporated. Now if it works for the ufc, it's got to work.

Host 1 (35:21)

But, Dana, you know, you was talking about growing up and how you watch boxing. The thing that I love most about you and what you've done with the ufc, back then, there was no ducking. Sugar Ray fought. Sugar Ray fought Hagler, he fought Hearns, he fought Duran. They fought each other. They fought Barkley. You go back to the 70s. Ali, fault Frazier, he fought Norton, he fought Foreman, he fought Ron. Laos. There was no ducking and dodging. And the one thing I can say about you, if you the ufc, I don't give a damn if you got a belt or not. You gonna fight the best guy. You ain't finna hand pick somebody that you can get a keep cheap paid off. Dana White, he ain't gonna let that happen.

Host 2 (Ocho) (35:59)

Hey, Dana, before you go, I'm glad un said that. I'm glad he mentioned it. And Dana, you kind of talked about it earlier. Where most boxers in general today, you don't want to take that zero, because when you take that zero in general, it diminishes everything you work your ass off for. And they view you differently. You can't command the type of paydays you want to. If you take an L, how are you going to.

Dana White (36:20)

That's not. But that's not true. And I prove. Okay, that's not true. And, and here's the thing. The reason boxing became so big is because of everything that Shannon just said. The. The sport was loved. You built these. Not just. You didn't buy build superstars, you built icons. You know what I mean? You know, Ali, Duran, Leonard Hagler, the list goes on and on. You, you literally icons were built. Millions of people watched it Free and live on ABC's Wide World of Sports. And everybody fell in love with the sport, and then it just got fractured and broken and messed up along the way, and here I am. We'll see.

Host 1 (37:05)

Dana, you said, when you did, it's like you've done some big events. You've done events around. You've done Madison Square Garden. You've been around the world, You've been in all over the place. And you said the sphere was the biggest event that you've ever done. How do you top that? How do you get the White House to top the sphere?

Dana White (37:21)

Yeah, so the White House. The President himself tells me, I've done so many different things and been a part of, you know, big events. And he said, I have never had people call me more and ask me for tickets to anything else I've ever done. UFC event at the White House. You know, the White House is so iconic and. And such. You would never expect.

Host 1 (37:48)

Absolutely not.

Dana White (37:49)

It will never be done again. You know, this is truly a. One of. One of that. And what an experience for anybody out of these 4,000 to 4, 500 seats that I have, the people that actually get to come and experience this is going to be. And even to watch it on tv. And I made sure you guys are going to see. I built this structure. I'm like, I don't want it. You know, we usually have screens and all this. I said, I don't want to see anything. But the White House, you know, is the backdrop.

Host 1 (38:19)

Backdrop.

Dana White (38:20)

You know, the Washington Monument on the other side. That's it.

Host 1 (38:24)

Right.

Dana White (38:24)

So.

Host 1 (38:24)

But you. But you're gonna have a staging area where fans, like, okay, you got 45. You say you're gonna have 4, 500 to 5, 000 seats that will actually be in attendance on the White House grounds.

Dana White (38:34)

Right.

Host 1 (38:34)

And then you're going to have a staging area where. Go ahead.

Dana White (38:37)

Across the street is the Ellipse. Like, right behind the south lawn is the ellipse. 85, 000 people can be there, and there will be screens. We're gonna have a stage. We're gonna do music for. For the fans out there. We are gonna. We're gonna take over D.C. oh, my goodness.

Host 2 (Ocho) (38:52)

Hey, can I ask you a question? I know, I know. I'm a little bit early. Are we. Are you and I. Are we attending the White House event? Since Dana said, like, since Dana said I can't get on the card, are we at least going.

Host 1 (39:04)

Well, I. Well, look, I know we're going to be a part of the the sponsorship, the, the. Dana's going to come on and talk about it the couple of days leading up to it. Hopefully we can get a couple of the fighters. I know they've been trying to make weight, cut weight. So maybe earlier in the week we'll get some of the fighters to come on to help Dana promote this thing. Because I, I just. Look, I love budget and get the.

Dana White (39:24)

Show out in D.C. come on.

Host 2 (Ocho) (39:25)

Okay, we can do that. Hey, Dana, I really. I really.

Host 1 (39:29)

Well, we gonna need some help with that budget to do to pull that off, Dana, because look, I go back to. I go back to UFC when UFBC first started, when they used to fight.

Dana White (39:38)

7.7 billion on this freaking event.

Host 1 (39:41)

You. You know what, Dana? This will be. There's a chance that this will be. This will be like a World cup soccer match.

Host 2 (Ocho) (39:47)

Absolutely.

Host 1 (39:47)

This will be a billion. A billion. Five people actually watching because like you said, it is free. And so if you have a subscription and I don't know how many people have Paramount plus, but I'm sure you know, 3, 400, you know, around the world, maybe 2, 300 million people have it.

Dana White (40:03)

Well, here's the great thing about Paramount plus is that now for what used to cost you, you know, for the price of a pay per view.

Host 1 (40:10)

Yeah.

Dana White (40:11)

On our old deal, you got the whole year everything. UFC for the whole year. Plus they have tons of other entertainment and movies. I don't know if you guys are in the land man or mob land.

Host 2 (Ocho) (40:22)

But Mobland is good. Mobland is really good.

Host 1 (40:25)

Incredible good. Yes. Well, Dana, thank you. Thanks for taking your time.

Host 2 (Ocho) (40:30)

You letting him go already? Go ahead, Dana.

Host 1 (40:32)

Well, he only got 15 meters. Said he got.

Host 2 (Ocho) (40:34)

He was pushed for time.

Host 1 (40:35)

UFC 324 Justin Gaethje vs. Patty the Baddie Pimlet Jan. 24 Las Vegas T Mobile Arena Gaethje vs. Pimblett O' Malley vs. Song Dong Yodon and Walter Waldo Cortez Acosta vs. The Black Beast. Those are the main guys. This is what we know. When the Black Beast fight somebody going to sleep.

Dana White (40:56)

That's the truth.

Host 1 (40:57)

That is the truth.

Dana White (40:58)

And I don't know if you guys know about Waldo. This guy is taken. He came off the contender series and he takes last minute fights and he viciously knocks people out. Him. And Derek Lewis is going to be.

Host 1 (41:09)

Ridiculous because Derek Lewis ain't really trying to submit somebody. No, he tried to throw female 100 and.

Dana White (41:17)

And the president loves, loves Derrick Lewis. So if he wins, he gonna be on the car. He president's gonna want him at the White House.

Host 1 (41:27)

That's unbelievable. That's unbelievable what he's been able to do. Dana, thanks for joining us. Thanks for making this, joining us tonight on Nightcap. We greatly, greatly appreciate it. Best of luck and I can't wait to see the fight on Saturday tonight.

Dana White (41:39)

Appreciate you boys. Thank you.

Host 1 (41:41)

Appreciate it. Dana. Have a good one.

Dana White (41:42)

You too.

Host 1 (41:47)

That was the final boss Dana White talking about the about the UFC going to Paramount plus all the cars that's coming up. As you met, you saw I mentioned the fight with Justin Gaethje and Patty Pimblett. They have another fight next weekend in in Australia and we got an opportunity to talk about the fight that's going to take place to mark the 250th anniversary of America with the the fight that's on going to be on the White House lawn. So it was great. It's always great having Dana stop by and talk about the UFC, Ocho, the 49ers, John Lynch.

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Host 1 (45:00)

It'S safe to say Brandon Aiyuk will not be back in San Francisco. John lynch and Kyle Shanahan spoke a little about what happened to iuk. Let's take a listen to what they had to say.

Odoo Advertiser (45:10)

Ocho, have you been able to determine.

John Lynch (45:13)

Why he was so upset, why he.

Odoo Advertiser (45:15)

Wasn'T showing up and just any background.

Host 1 (45:17)

You can give on that?

John Lynch (45:19)

I wish I knew.

Host 2 (Ocho) (45:20)

I. Yeah, can't help you there. Sorry.

Rasheed Shahid (45:24)

Yeah.

Host 1 (45:24)

Has there been a line of communication with him?

John Lynch (45:27)

There was, but not anymore.

Dana White (45:30)

That snap.

John Lynch (45:35)

Well, when I'm coaching I don't, I don't hang out in the training room at all. So I don't see guys much that way. But I say it officially stopped for me when last time I tried to get a hold of him and couldn't and then tried a couple more times and still couldn't and then that matched everyone else that was trying to get a hold of them and couldn't and eventually there's not much of an explanation because it's really hard for us and anyone else to understand and that's why it's something I've never seen in 22 years of coaching.

Host 1 (46:07)

So just.

John Lynch (46:09)

It's unfortunate and that's. It's confusing because it's confusing for all of us.

Rasheed Shahid (46:15)

So.

John Lynch (46:16)

But it eventually becomes it is what it is and you try as hard as you can to fix something that you don't understand. But it's not like we understand it very well still, but eventually you understand that it's not going to change. And you got to move on with your football team, which is always the most important thing.

Host 1 (46:37)

I've never seen out y'.

Host 2 (Ocho) (46:39)

All.

Host 1 (46:39)

I don't know, maybe you. Maybe in your circles you played, you know, I was in a couple of year, you know, decade before you, and you stayed about seven, eight years after I left. So maybe you've seen something like this, but I've never seen anything like this.

Host 2 (Ocho) (46:52)

No, I've never seen like this either. And obviously we're not going to get the answer from the coaches or the gm. Obviously everything they say is going to be PC. If we want to know what the answer is, if we want to know what the issues were, we would have to talk to Brandon iu and at some point, I'm not sure if he deck. If he's the type that will voice the issues and concerns that he had there. Obviously he wants to move on them saying he's not going to be there. Well, hell, we could have told you that when he decided to give back 24 or whatever mean he decided to give back by. By not showing up. So he really wants to get out of that situation. Something went wrong. I don't know where it went wrong, but whatever it is, listen, both sides need to move on. I'm excited to see where Brandon Ayuk is going. I'm excited to also see how well he's recovered from rehab, to see how far along he is because he is one hell of a player unknown when he. When it's time to go.

Host 1 (47:40)

So I'm hoping he's not get carried away now. He's not a top five receiver. I'm not sure he's.

Host 2 (Ocho) (47:45)

I didn't say. It's only.

Host 1 (47:46)

He's a good receiver.

Host 2 (Ocho) (47:47)

He's a good receiver. That's.

Host 1 (47:49)

That's good enough.

Host 2 (Ocho) (47:49)

I can't. I can't compliment the man about being good.

Host 1 (47:52)

You said, hey, he, he. He.

Host 2 (Ocho) (47:54)

I said he's a really good receiver. He's a really good receiver.

Host 1 (47:57)

Okay?

Host 2 (Ocho) (47:57)

I didn't say he was. I didn't say he was Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson.

Host 1 (48:01)

Yeah, okay.

Host 2 (Ocho) (48:01)

I'm just saying, you know, but this.

Host 1 (48:03)

Don'T make sense to me. Ocho.

Host 2 (Ocho) (48:04)

Right?

Host 1 (48:05)

Okay. You're injured. All you gotta do is go rehab and leave. Okay? The general manager tried to call you your position coach, try to call you the head coach. You can't find the time to call back.

Host 2 (Ocho) (48:18)

You just stop showing up there's a reason why. We just don't know the reason why he wouldn't just do it for no reason. Of course they're not going to state what that reason is. Ocho.

Host 1 (48:26)

The only thing he has to do is get treatment. He don't have to come to meetings.

Host 2 (Ocho) (48:31)

You're not listening to me.

Host 1 (48:32)

I am listening.

Host 2 (Ocho) (48:33)

There's more to it than what they're going to say. You're creating a scenario and making it in its simplest form. And all he has to do. There are other things that factor in to him not wanting to come back, him not answering phone calls, him not answering text messages, him saying, y' all take that 20 million back. I don't want it. I just want out of this situation. For an NFL player, as much as we love getting paid, as much as we love money, and to give 20 million plus back to the team just so you can get out, let you know how bad it is, it's gotta be.

Host 1 (49:11)

But I'm trying to figure out how I got bad. He got hurt. Now, maybe you know what, Ocho? Maybe it was a situation. You know how they. How long they waited to sign the contract because, you know, he wanted to go somewhere else, and then at the last second, but they ended up doing the deal. And you know what happens, Ocho? A lot of time when you wait for a period of time, the player feels some type of way, even though you give him his money, he like, why I had to wait this long.

Host 2 (Ocho) (49:37)

Yeah. Yeah.

Host 1 (49:39)

I shouldn't have had to wait.

Host 2 (Ocho) (49:40)

They'll let you know how they really feel about you when it's time to get paid, boy.

Host 1 (49:45)

Yeah, I. Like I said, you're right. I. I will. I will concede this to you. I don't know if we'll ever get the answer. I don't know if Brandon IU could ever speak on it.

Host 2 (Ocho) (49:56)

I'm sure. I'm sure he will. I'm sure it will at some point. Yeah, absolutely. It won't be right now.

Host 1 (50:04)

Anxious to see what he has to say.

Host 2 (Ocho) (50:06)

It probably won't be right now because he wants to stay low, keep it quiet until he gets to his next destination. But at some point, he will voice the reasons on why things were so bad.

Host 1 (50:16)

Of course. Yeah, I want to get out, too, but I'm gonna get that money on the way out.

Host 2 (Ocho) (50:21)

I know.

Host 1 (50:21)

Oo gonna get that money on the way out. Yeah, I'm gonna get. Oh. Once this thing become guaranteed. Hey, yeah. Y' all know I want up out of here, right? But I got that the money guarantee you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This. This is irreconcilable differences.

Host 2 (Ocho) (50:39)

Yeah, that's. That's what it all down to.

Host 1 (50:45)

It's crazy, man.

Host 2 (Ocho) (50:47)

Yeah. You've never seen nothing like this before, huh?

Host 1 (50:50)

No, never. Yeah, never.

Host 2 (Ocho) (50:52)

Same.

Host 1 (50:52)

Never. Never. And I know. And I've seen guys really pissed at an organization. Yeah, I've seen guys get cut for not hustling and things like that. But back then, Ocho, we weren't dealing with the kind of money that these guys are dealing with.

Host 2 (Ocho) (51:07)

Right.

Host 1 (51:08)

You know, back then when we played three, $4 million with a lot of damn money. Oh, yeah, you talk about $26 million, $27 million. Man.

Host 2 (Ocho) (51:17)

Man, go ahead and. He said, totally, man, go ahead and take that back, man. I'm good.

Host 1 (51:21)

And remember, it was reported that he told the union. Nah, don't even fight it.

Dana White (51:29)

Don't even.

Host 1 (51:29)

Don't even worry about it.

Host 2 (Ocho) (51:30)

Don't worry about it.

Host 1 (51:32)

Now I need to get off.

Host 2 (Ocho) (51:33)

Hey, that's when. That's when you know you're fed up, right?

Host 1 (51:36)

Yeah, I'm fed up, but my bank account ain't. Nah, bro, I need to get. I need to get all that.

Host 2 (Ocho) (51:44)

Yeah.

Host 1 (51:44)

And then knowing that there are places that need receivers. I don't know. Do you swap him and A.J. brown?

Rasheed Shahid (51:51)

Oh.

Host 1 (51:54)

Aren'T both of them number 11?

Host 2 (Ocho) (51:57)

Yeah, I like, I like. I like the way you're thinking now. A.J. brown to go crazy over there, but goddamn, with Mr. Irrelevant. What, man, him and Purdy, are they a cook boy? Oh, that's a good. Oh, that's a good one. I like, I like that. I like that. I like that even. Even better than, you know, my. My idea of him going to the Ravens.

Host 1 (52:28)

Oh, A.J.

Host 2 (Ocho) (52:29)

Yeah.

Host 1 (52:31)

Look, I think A.J. would be great anywhere other than Philly.

Host 2 (Ocho) (52:36)

But of course, you know, people being naive as well. Somebody. Oh, salary cap, dead cap, too much money. Okay, Y' all do not understand this business, obviously.

Host 1 (52:49)

Look, Pittsburgh need a receiver. Buffalo definitely need a receiver.

Host 2 (Ocho) (52:55)

Yeah, yeah.

Host 1 (52:55)

Baltimore could probably lose. Use a guy outside the Raiders. So I. I think they'll have some takers. I think both teams, I think the Eagles and, and. And the 49ers will have takers. Yeah, I do.

Host 2 (Ocho) (53:09)

You definitely. You definitely want to see where he is first, though. I mean, teams are going to want to see where Brandon Ayuki is at some point. He's gonna have to start putting videos out showing teams that he is okay, that he's able to run and stop.

Host 1 (53:20)

No, they're gonna bring him in. They'll bring him in for a physical. All that other stuff, they don't want to see. They don't want to see you doing all that. They want to see. They want to test that ankle. They want their. Their orthopedics to tug on that knee and shake that knee and see if they have the stability that it needs.

Rasheed Shahid (53:35)

Right.

Host 1 (53:36)

They're going. They're. They're going to want to see all that.

Host 2 (Ocho) (53:38)

Yeah.

Host 1 (53:44)

It's just a different time now. Oo.

Host 2 (Ocho) (53:46)

Yeah, it is.

Host 1 (53:46)

It's just a different time.

Host 2 (Ocho) (53:47)

It is.

Host 1 (53:54)

To give up. To give that back. And like I said, something like, something transpired. I don't know. I don't know what happened. Maybe something was said. Maybe it was, you know, because obviously he was upset because I remember we had him on. Yeah. Yeah, we had him on.

Host 2 (Ocho) (54:10)

Yeah.

Host 1 (54:11)

Now that I think about it, he.

Host 2 (Ocho) (54:14)

Might come back and tell us what happened.

Host 1 (54:16)

Well, we definitely gonna reach out. Yeah. You know, but. We look at Buffalo, you look at Baltimore, you look at Pittsburgh, you look at the Raiders, I saw some report that AJ Back to the Titans, I'm like, I don't think AJ Want to go back to the Titans.

Host 2 (Ocho) (54:44)

Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I like the same.

Host 1 (54:47)

Cleveland could use a receiver.

Host 2 (Ocho) (54:49)

Nope, don't send him over there either.

Host 1 (54:50)

No, but I'm just saying. I'm. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just thinking about teams that could use a receiver.

Host 2 (Ocho) (54:56)

Yeah, let's. Let's send him. Let's send him somewhere where he's gonna be happy. Please don't, don't, don't, don't. Don't do him dirty, but normal.

Host 1 (55:02)

The places that go make you happy, Ocho, they gotta want you. Because what happens, you gotta want the girl that wants you, not the girl that you want.

Host 2 (Ocho) (55:08)

Well, the 49ers are definitely gonna want him. That ain't no problem.

Host 1 (55:11)

No. Oh, I thought you talking about. I thought you was talking about. I. I thought you was talking about.

Host 2 (Ocho) (55:15)

Oh, yeah, okay. My bad.

Host 1 (55:16)

I was. Yes. A lot of times they say date the girl that you want. I mean, the girl that wants you.

Host 2 (Ocho) (55:23)

Right.

Host 1 (55:23)

Not the girl that you want.

Host 2 (Ocho) (55:25)

Yeah.

Host 1 (55:25)

I mean, because that's probably going to lead to the. The happiness. So I was saying, a lot of times where we actually want to go.

Host 2 (Ocho) (55:34)

Yeah.

Host 1 (55:35)

Might not necessarily want us to be there. So we're gonna have to find a place that really want us and like. Oh, you really want me? Well, then I want you, too. But we'll see how that will. Will say the Chiefs. Oh, The Titans.

Host 2 (Ocho) (56:02)

Eh.

Host 1 (56:06)

I mean I. I mean I know Calvin really is coming back, but is that enough?

Host 2 (Ocho) (56:12)

But he's coming back off an injury as well.

Host 1 (56:14)

Correct. And he's a little older than what he was last year.

Host 2 (Ocho) (56:17)

Yeah. Two players coming back off injury and.

Host 1 (56:26)

But here. But Ocho, you got to understand huh Brandon, I you rehab the whole year he didn't play. So he should be Gucci.

Host 2 (Ocho) (56:37)

Yeah.

Host 1 (56:37)

Think about it. He got hurt last year before last.

Host 2 (Ocho) (56:41)

Yeah.

Host 1 (56:41)

He rehabbed this whole season. I guess was supposed supposedly allegedly rehab. Something went wrong. I don't know what he did, but I'm just saying. So he should be good. He really should be good.

Host 2 (Ocho) (56:55)

Yeah. And we gonna find out now.

Host 1 (56:57)

Yeah, but you know, but you know, Ocho, man, it's. People think you could just like you could just take a whole year off and just pick right up where you left off. That is. It don't work like that for a high level professional.

Host 2 (Ocho) (57:09)

No.

Host 1 (57:09)

You got to play.

Host 2 (Ocho) (57:10)

Yeah. And that's the only way to get yourself back in the rhythm is by playing and not, not by. Not by yourself either.

Host 1 (57:19)

So chat. We try to list some teams that we think would that aj, Brandon Auk, some of the. The big names receiver that will probably be available come free agency. The trade opened up I think March, probably like the first week in March is when the. The free agency period to hit the new year starts and that's when you can start. But you know, you have that. What they call that period.

Host 2 (Ocho) (57:48)

Which one?

Host 1 (57:50)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The, the. The tampering where you can actually have contact with the guys. But.

Host 2 (Ocho) (57:55)

Right.

Host 1 (57:56)

So that might be a situation. Like I said, I think there could be some pretty good receivers on the market. And I think, you know, you got jsn, it's probably. Well, you got js. I mean think about it. You got JSN and you got Puka and then you got the Bronco. I mean every team. I mean JSN is going to the Pro Bowl. First team All Pro. Puka, Pro bowl. First team All Pro. Both of those guys unanimous selections to the all pro team. And Cortland Sutton. So three of the team, three of the four teams got a Pro bowl wide receiver on their roster.

Host 2 (Ocho) (58:33)

Yeah.

Host 1 (58:36)

And all Tay did was lead the league in, in, in touchdown catches. He's the first guy to lead a league in touchdown catches with three different teams, different teams. And he missed like three games. So clearly he still has some. Some juice in the tank and I expect him to be back next year. But Puka gonna get a monster Contract. Yeah, go get a monster contract.

Host 2 (Ocho) (59:06)

Ocho JJs single overlap that.

Host 1 (59:10)

But this is only JSN his only second year. He'll be next year.

Host 2 (Ocho) (59:13)

Next year. I'm saying he'll open.

Host 1 (59:14)

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree. Oh, chat. Talking about the jets need to. Need a wide receiver, man.

Host 2 (Ocho) (59:25)

Now, don't send Jazz.

Host 1 (59:26)

Need a lot of things. Don't send nobody wide receiver. Some offensive linemen.

Host 2 (Ocho) (59:32)

Don't. Don't do it. Garrett will dbs. Don't do it.

Host 1 (59:37)

Yeah, they need. The jets need a lot.

Host 2 (Ocho) (59:39)

They need to get my boy Garrett Wilson out of there, man.

Host 1 (59:43)

Oh, speaking of Puka, according to Mike Groffalo, John Harbaugh badly wanted the Ravens to draft Puka Nakua back in 2023. But the front office went against his wishes. If he got his way, Puka Nakua would have been a Raven. That was the guy that John Harbaugh wanted badly for the Ravens to draft, and they didn't. Puka was the last pick of the fifth round. The Ravens took instead Caillou Blue Kelly. I guess how you say it. Caillou. Caillou Blue Kelly. Cornerback.

Host 2 (Ocho) (60:21)

I like. I like exactly where he's at.

Host 1 (60:23)

Yeah, I mean, see, look.

Host 2 (Ocho) (60:25)

I like exactly.

Host 1 (60:26)

Ravens didn't have a car, a coordinator like Sean McVeigh that has that kind of imagination. Just because somebody put up numbers over there, that don't mean he gonna put those numbers up in Baltimore.

Host 2 (Ocho) (60:36)

But he's not because the offense is completely different.

Dana White (60:39)

Exactly.

Host 2 (Ocho) (60:40)

Completely different offense. So it definitely. It would. Man. Scheme is not even close to being the same. So obviously, he. I like where he's at. I like.

Host 1 (60:49)

I do, too. You. I mean, look, the one thing we know that Sean McVeigh can get the receivers the ball. Oh, yeah, you remember Cooper cup, that triple crown season? Now, you follow that up, and, I mean, just think about it. Oh, you get 1700 yards, and that's still not the best season. That's not the best receiving season in your. In the franchise history.

Host 2 (Ocho) (61:07)

That's crazy.

Host 1 (61:07)

You still 200 yards short.

Host 2 (Ocho) (61:09)

Yeah.

Host 1 (61:10)

You still 20, you know, almost 20 catches short. But no Puka would. If y' all think Puka would have done that in Baltimore, you're high. Because, first of all, they didn't have an offensive coordinator that has the imagination and the creativity that. That. That. That Sean McVeigh. So.

Host 2 (Ocho) (61:35)

No.

Host 1 (61:38)

No, I. I look, I. I get it, you know, and it. See.

Dana White (61:41)

It.

Host 1 (61:41)

See, it seems good now. Oh, he wanted. He wanted him up. So is it has there been anybody that he wanted they drafted that didn't pan out? Because everybody's willing to report the guys that they want that's panning out for somebody else, but they never report the guys that they wanted and they got that didn't pan out paying out.

Host 2 (Ocho) (62:02)

That's a good one.

Host 1 (62:12)

Man. They need to stop. Man, they did. They really. They really need to stop this, man. And what you call him jumping on Keon Coleman like he the first pick in the draft. Like he. Like he's the re. Like the owner. Mr. Pakula.

Host 2 (Ocho) (62:29)

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Host 1 (62:30)

I'm like, hello. So not so now Keon Coleman was the reason y' all lost this game. It went from Josh Allen turning them all over four times. You having five turnovers to let. Hey, let's double. You know what? Keon Coleman, low hanging fruit. Yeah, let's pluck his ass.

Host 2 (Ocho) (62:46)

You notice they ain't say nothing about Josh now.

Host 1 (62:48)

No.

Host 2 (Ocho) (62:50)

Hey, one thing. You pissed. You pissed that quarterback off. If you want to.

Host 1 (62:55)

Nah, you leave that alone. But. But I don't. I don't know. You didn't have to say anything about Keon Coleman.

Host 2 (Ocho) (63:01)

Yeah.

Host 1 (63:02)

Okay. Hey. Yes. We. We need him to play better. We bought him in to be a number one receiver and that is the expectation level that we have for him. But to mention him and talk about, oh, the coach. Brandon didn't want him. We didn't want. That was the coach's decision. Not. That's unnecessary.

Host 2 (Ocho) (63:19)

Totally unnecessary.

Host 1 (63:20)

Unnecessary. Stop trying to pile on Chicago's Ben Johnson was asked about building off this season. Ojo. Take a listen to his answer. Yeah, that you guys are going to.

Host 2 (Ocho) (63:31)

Be able to build off this and that.

Rasheed Shahid (63:32)

There.

Announcer (63:33)

There is no building off of this. We go back to square one. We're back at the bottom again. And that's. That's really all 32 teams. If you feel otherwise, you're probably missing the. Missing the big picture. You know, we're back at. We got to start from scratch. We got to start from the fundamentals. You know, a lot of guys talked about how difficult this training camp was. I didn't feel like it was anything out of my ordinary. They know what the expectation is. We. They know what the process is that we believe in as a coaching staff. And so I think more than anything else, they're going to know what they're getting themselves into. And yet we got to dig a little bit deeper. We got to work a little bit harder. We got to give a little bit more if we want to. To take this thing over. The top. I mean, it's. It's no different. You're trying to lose weight. You're trying to lose 50 pounds. The first 30 is. Is the easiest 30. You know, the last 20.

Host 2 (Ocho) (64:22)

That's.

Announcer (64:22)

That's the hard. That's the hard part. And so we did a nice job this year, but it's not enough. We got to do more.

Host 2 (Ocho) (64:31)

I like what he said. I love what he said.

Host 1 (64:34)

I want to play for Ben Johnson now. Hey, my new favorite coach is Ben Johnson.

Host 2 (Ocho) (64:38)

Everything he said, but the one thing I like that he said is he talked. We not building off nothing. We starting from scratch. Yeah.

Host 1 (64:46)

Build off what?

Host 2 (Ocho) (64:47)

Yeah, we. We start from scratch, we got to build this thing all the way back up again. I like it. I like it.

Host 1 (64:52)

That house don't stay up that you built last year.

Host 2 (Ocho) (64:54)

Absolutely.

Host 1 (64:54)

Tear that ish down.

Host 2 (Ocho) (64:55)

Absolutely not.

Host 1 (64:56)

And you start from ground zero. A new foundation again. Yes, absolutely.

Host 2 (Ocho) (65:02)

But now you see why they. Why they've had such success this year.

Host 1 (65:05)

You know, just so I see why. Yes.

Rasheed Shahid (65:07)

He.

Host 1 (65:08)

His thought process. That's why he talks to his team.

Host 2 (Ocho) (65:11)

Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely.

Host 1 (65:13)

Oh, there's something we can build off of.

Host 2 (Ocho) (65:15)

Yeah.

Host 1 (65:15)

Build up what?

Host 2 (Ocho) (65:16)

What? Hey, the Bears in good hands for the next 10, 15 years, man.

Host 1 (65:23)

I. I totally agree. Oh, yo, I didn't build off nothing. I had to start all back over. Guess what, Ocho?

Host 2 (Ocho) (65:27)

Every year.

Host 1 (65:28)

Because that what I did the year before the training, it ain't got nothing to do what I'm gonna do to.

Host 2 (Ocho) (65:31)

Train it this year at all.

Host 1 (65:33)

If that was the case, I could just sit my ass in the house and go, hey. And just show up the cats. Hey. Cause I already built off that training. No, I had to start a new foundation again.

Host 2 (Ocho) (65:42)

Yeah. Hey, listen.

Host 1 (65:43)

Start building right back up, okay? You start out gradually and just build up. Speaking of track and field, congratulations to Sydney McLaughlin Barone. She's expecting a child. Her and her husband expecting a child this year.

Host 2 (Ocho) (65:55)

Okay. Congrats. Congrats. Congrats, congrats.

Host 1 (65:58)

Hey, and Shelly. Mommy Rocket. If she came back and win world titles and can win a gold medal, Sydney could do it. Because I think. What. Sydney's 26. I think she's 26. Have the baby this year. She got 27, and she got 28 for the Olympics. She. We good. But y' all better be glad. Y' all better be glad. Cause you by a. Polino. And what's the lady from Bahrain? Nasser.

Host 2 (Ocho) (66:39)

Yeah.

Host 1 (66:40)

Because ain't nobody else see. Ain't nobody else seeing her.

Host 2 (Ocho) (66:42)

No.

Host 1 (66:43)

Ain't nobody else seeing her. And they better be glad she left the hurdles because that was just like it had just gotten.

Dana White (66:48)

It wasn't.

Host 1 (66:49)

It wasn't even fair.

Host 2 (Ocho) (66:50)

Easy work. Easy work.

Host 1 (66:52)

Yeah, but I love the way Ben Johnson think. I love the way he talks. That's. That's kind of what Mike. That's how Mike was that last year ain't got nothing to do with this year. Bring your ass back in better shape than you came in this year. Expect to work a little harder than what you worked last year. Because we won't better. We want better results. That what we did last year won't get the job done this year. Teams get better. So I don't know why you think build off. What? No. That you start at the bottom of the mountain.

Host 2 (Ocho) (67:23)

Yeah.

Host 1 (67:23)

Even if you. Even if you end your season on top of the mountain, you don't get to stay there.

Host 2 (Ocho) (67:30)

You start.

Host 1 (67:30)

It ain't like Wimbledon. You know, Wimbledon used to win. If you won Wimbledon way back when you came back as a champ, everybody else fought. You just played the final match and you win. If you win, you. You the champ again. Nah, you start first round, second round, third round, quarter Simmons and final. No, that's how it's supposed to go. I love. I love Ben Johnson. I love this thought process. I. I look. Yeah. Being my new guy. Being my new guy. I love the way that. That's, that's. That's how. That's how he. That's how I want my coach to talk.

Host 2 (Ocho) (68:02)

Right?

Host 1 (68:03)

Don't be talking about what. Hey, we. We good or we gonna build on something? Now? We ain't gonna build on nothing at all. What we finna do is start all over again and build this back up. Ain't no building on. It's building back up, so it's going to be very interesting. And they got pieces. You know, they got their quarterback, they got a. They got a good running game, they got two good tight ends and Loveland and cold commit. I know everybody's upset at DJ Moore right now, but DJ Moore and Roman Dunesday, they got Zakias, they got. Look, offensive line is really good now maybe go get a defensive lineman that can add some pressure on the other side of sweat.

Host 2 (Ocho) (68:49)

Yeah, don't forget Luther Burden there.

Host 1 (68:52)

Yeah. No, no, no. Luther Burton. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got receive. They covered on offense. They covered on the offensive side.

Host 2 (Ocho) (68:58)

Yeah.

Host 1 (69:00)

Jalen Johnson gets another year. You know, he came back, had that core muscle, so now he gets to work his way back in shape and get back on the field and get back to the level of playing that he's accustomed to playing at. But yeah, they, they, they, they and he, they. Look, the one thing that, that Ben Johnson knows, NFC is not getting easier.

Host 2 (Ocho) (69:25)

Oh no, everybody else.

Host 1 (69:27)

San Francisco doesn't have all those injuries. Okay. Doesn't look like the Rams going anywhere. Doesn't look like Seattle's going anywhere. Atlanta got two guys up for defensive rookie of the year. Bijon Drake London. What are they going to do with Kyle Pitts? Are they going to bring him back? Quarterback situation. Hey, Tampa being, being, being the, being the mix.

Host 2 (Ocho) (69:53)

Yeah.

Host 1 (69:54)

Carolina, look, Carolina made the playoffs this year. Detroit hired a new offensive coordinator. Green Bay. So the thing, I think that Ben realized that no, you can't build off. You got to start back up because these other teams are doing that, getting better. Don't nobody start with. Nobody picks up where they left off because that's the case with Dale, the team that makes it to the Super Bowl. That means Seattle automatically makes it back to the NFC championship game. No, that ain't happening. The Rams make it all the way back. So damn, they picking up where they left off. Where that leave us. So I'm excited for Chicago. Chicago is. They're definitely up and coming. Ocho, it's time to play. Play a fave presented by prize pick. K Sean booty. More than 30. 38 yards receiving.

Rasheed Shahid (71:02)

More.

Host 2 (Ocho) (71:03)

Yeah.

Odoo Advertiser (71:03)

More.

Host 2 (Ocho) (71:03)

Of course.

Host 1 (71:04)

Remindre Stevenson. More than 0.5 rush or receiving. Touchdown. Yeah. He have a touchdown.

Host 2 (Ocho) (71:10)

Yep.

Host 1 (71:11)

Sam Donald. More than 219. More than 220 yards passing. Yep. Puka Nakua. Point five rush or receiving. Touchdown. So he'll have at least one touchdown tomorrow.

Host 2 (Ocho) (71:24)

Yeah.

Host 1 (71:24)

I'll be. No Sunday.

Host 2 (Ocho) (71:27)

Yeah.

Host 1 (71:28)

Okay.

Odoo Advertiser (71:29)

Somebody.

Host 1 (71:29)

Okay, so we're going more on everything.

Host 2 (Ocho) (71:31)

Yeah. It's a game. Ain't no game tomorrow, huh?

Host 1 (71:35)

No.

Host 2 (Ocho) (71:35)

Yeah, both games Sunday.

Host 1 (71:36)

Okay, look at this. But look at 25 to win. 262.50. Download the app today. Use code SHANNON to get 50 in lineups after you play your first five dollar lineup. Prize picks. It's good to be right. All right, we'll get out here on this one. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q A. Kevin Norwood Jr. UNC. My question is, when is fellow Cinco coming back? It's hard to bring fellow Cinco back because when football season's on, we got so much going on. There's so much to talk about and a lot of times we leave stuff on the cutting room floor. Hopefully we're able to get it because we're. We're two hours in, and we still have some stuff that we could have talked about, so. Yeah, we're gonna bring that back when it slows down a little bit for us right now. You know, with the football season in full swing, we. We decided to, like, get away from a spello and dunk on, but it's coming back.

Host 2 (Ocho) (72:42)

And. And don't forget about spoken word, too, now.

Host 1 (72:45)

Oh, and spoken word. And spoken word.

Host 2 (Ocho) (72:47)

Yeah, I got some good ones. Yeah.

Host 1 (72:49)

Dr. Frankie L. Bellaby. Just checking on my guys to make sure y' all are good. I may not have asked a question every night, but I'm here every night. Love y'. All. Thank you. Doc, we know you here. Hell, you've been here. You like one of the first two or three to ever join us, so. Doc, we know we can count on you. And every time we've had a show in Atlanta or anytime we somewhere close by. Oh, yeah, Doc showing up. She came to verse the very first show in Vegas. She was in Atlanta. She came to the New Orleans show. Doc, you coming to San Fran? Doc, coming to San Fran. Appreciate that. We good, Doc, we good. OG Underscore Thanos. Are we sure CJ is the future for the Texans? That is a question they're gonna have. That's the question, Ocho, because what you and I talked. We talked about. What was the Ocho. We talked about this Monday. No, we talked about this Sunday night.

Host 2 (Ocho) (73:37)

Yeah, well, we gonna. We gonna know, though. I mean, you. You don't. You don't. You don't answer that question yet. But they gonna know after this season that's coming up.

Host 1 (73:45)

That's gonna tell you whether I pick up that fifth year option. Yeah, he ball out. Now. I ain't got no problem giving that money.

Host 2 (Ocho) (73:51)

Yeah, there you go. That's it. Matter of fact, they wouldn't have had no problem giving him that money if he took care of business this year toward the end of the season.

Host 1 (73:58)

You. You right. You're right. The Sean Underscore Shore what's up, show? What's up, Ocho? What's something you believed in your life in your 20s that you know now was completely wrong about something that I.

Host 2 (Ocho) (74:15)

Believed in life that I was completely wrong about. She. Oh, that's a good one, huh?

Host 1 (74:25)

If I treat people good, they'll treat me good. Lies.

Odoo Advertiser (74:36)

Damn.

Host 1 (74:38)

And then I had to learn, Ocho, I treat you good, you treat me bad, and then you become a stranger.

Host 2 (Ocho) (74:49)

Damn.

Host 1 (74:53)

I mean, what.

Host 2 (Ocho) (74:56)

That's.

Host 1 (74:57)

I Gotta. I gotta. I gotta let you keep dumping on me before I realize it. Sometimes you realize it's too late.

Host 2 (Ocho) (75:05)

Yeah.

Host 1 (75:06)

But if you can catch it soon.

Host 2 (Ocho) (75:07)

Enough, hey, you catch it early, you can get rid of it, huh?

Host 1 (75:11)

True.

Host 2 (Ocho) (75:11)

You gotta. You gotta catch it early, you know, and. That's a good question. Now you got. Now you got me thinking. That's a great question. I got to come back to that. I gotta. I gotta think. Damn, that's a good one.

Host 1 (75:27)

Corey Blessman. I think Stroud was saying that he realized during the season that he was too busy trying to be Superman and that he shouldn't have that because he had a great defense. That's how I took it. But he didn't have to be Superman. Hold on, let's see. So I'm gonna see something. He passed for 2122-501692-44187, 260, 203, 276, 79. He got hurt against the Broncos, so that's why he only passed for 79. 318 against San Francisco. 2292-442332-04207, 188. Where the Superman at? I missed something, Corey. I missed something. Where the Superman stats? Did I miss something? Ocho, did you see. Did you hear those stats?

Dana White (76:46)

I read off?

Host 2 (Ocho) (76:46)

Yeah, I heard him. I heard him up. I heard him.

Host 1 (76:49)

I mean, he had one, 300 yard game the whole season. He had three games which he passed for 250 or more. So I'm. I'm trying to figure what a super.

Rasheed Shahid (77:04)

Hold on.

Host 1 (77:05)

I'm just trying to figure whether. What a superman. One touchdown, four picks, one touchdown, one pick, one touchdown, zero picks, two touchdowns, two picks, 1 030, 100 touchdown, one interception against Denver, he got hurt early. San Fran, he was two and one. Seattle, he was one in one. Baltimore, he was four. And oh, Tennessee was two. And oh, Jacksonville, he was one and two. Tampa, he was one. And oh, Louisiana, he was owing one. So I'm. Where's Superman at? Corey. Where's the Superman at, Corey? Idk. Cash chat. What do y' all think about Trayvon Dave getting cut by the Packers? I don't even know why they signed him. Why you signing Mocho? The man played. What, What? One snap, two snaps.

Host 2 (Ocho) (78:09)

Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure why they brought it. Brought him in. They brought him in for. For a playoff run. Obviously that didn't happen, so Obviously, they had no use for him. They probably weren't going to be on the roster the following year anyway. So he's going to have himself a fresh start somewhere else. I'm not sure where. Where he will be going, but he will be on someone's team.

Host 1 (78:33)

You got to prove himself or you got to stay healthy. And he has to realize, I mean, he was never a burner. So the chance, the risk that you took after those injuries that you've had, I don't know if you could. But it's hard, Ocho, because that's how he made his name. That's who he is. He's a thief. But as you get old and get injured, the police can catch you. You can't run away.

Host 2 (Ocho) (79:03)

Yeah.

Host 1 (79:05)

So it's hot. It's. It's hard, Ocho. When you play a certain style, and that style requires athleticism. That's why you see a guy like Brady can play at the day. That's why Philip Rivers can be at home for five years and come back. Because why Ocho? He didn't rely on athleticism.

Host 2 (Ocho) (79:24)

Now you got to play with your mind, that's all. As you get older, as your athleticism deteriorates, it becomes a chess match.

Host 1 (79:33)

But you needed had to be playing with your mind in the beginning. It's hard to die, you asking somebody to pick up a trait they didn't have to begin with.

Host 2 (Ocho) (79:39)

Yeah.

Host 1 (79:40)

Remember, what did Samuel Johnson say? Almost every man will waste a part of his life trying to possess qualities he does not have in an attempt to gain applause for he cannot keep. So if he didn't play like that before. So now you're like, well, you know what? I'm gonna use my mind. I ain't got my. My legs ain't what they used to be. That's like, oh, man, we need you to be a run block and wide receiver, Right. You're like, what you mean a run off wide receiver or run blocking wide receiver?

Host 2 (Ocho) (80:13)

But you know, I get in there and block.

Host 1 (80:15)

Now make it your ass out of here. Detail Service. Thoughts on LeBron MLK shoe situation. I vaguely remember. I think he had the shoe. It was the color of the Lorraine Motel. Is that what they talk about? The one that was in Memphis, Right? I think that's what it's about. I think the Lorraine Motel. I think the shoes are the color of the Lorraine Motel. Yeah. Probably should have left that one alone. And it's okay to leave it alone. It's. Sometimes you might think you paying homage, and that's not the way it's received just for me, I just think, like, okay, just leave. When it comes to Dr. King, just leave that alone. That's just, that's just my two cents. Yeah, just leave it alone. Because I'm clearly, I mean, he wouldn't have done it if he didn't think he was paying homage to. Homage to him or however you want to say it. He didn't think he was, like, honoring Dr. King. But I just think in a situation like that, just leave it alone. I'm sure they could have come up with a different colorway. No, but the thing is, LeBron could have said, nah, I don't think I want to do that one. It's okay. Look, LeBron is very conscious. I believe he holds Dr. King in very, very high regard. But everybody doesn't look at it like that. You know, he was assassinated at the Lorraine Motel. You got a shoe that's the color of. And I think that's what it is. If I could be wrong, I could be wrong. If I'm wrong, Chad, I apologize, But I think they turned that into a museum. Didn't he, didn't they turn it. I think they turned the hotel into a. But I, I think I, I, I want to say the color of the hotel inside is the color of those shoes. Ocho. I, I, I read it. You know, I got so much other stuff on my mind, so I, I'm not really paying that much attention to LeBron shoes. But I was thinking, like, I just remember seeing the thing. Okay. I don't, I don't think people gonna be happy. Yes.

Host 2 (Ocho) (83:00)

I ain't even see it.

Host 1 (83:02)

Yeah, so that's my thoughts on that. Can you give a shout out to my brother Mo? He loves your cognac also. Who's your early super bowl pick, Mo? Thank you, guys. I appreciate that. And thanks for purchasing the bottle of Shea by La Portier. I'm glad you like it. We believe we created a great product. It's smooth, goes down really easy. You know, we prefer if you drink it on the rocks, but you can't add it. It's great as an old fashioned. As great as a sidecar. Determination, discipline, dedication. All the drinks that we've come up with that you could add to it, but it is a great, just right on the rocks. Early super bowl picks, Broncos, Seattle.

Host 2 (Ocho) (83:48)

I would just get, I would just get ready to say that.

Host 1 (83:56)

Shebus. What's up, Uncle? No, Joe. Can you give a shout out to my happy birthday to my friend Ebony. Happy birthday, Ebony.

Host 2 (Ocho) (84:02)

Happy birthday, ebony.

Host 1 (84:05)

Don't you remember EBONY magazine?

Host 2 (Ocho) (84:07)

Yeah.

Announcer (84:08)

What?

Host 2 (Ocho) (84:08)

Jet Beauty of the Week, man.

Host 1 (84:10)

You must. I had them things up on my wall at Savannah State. For real? Yeah. Jet Beauty. You go back then, you know. Oh, Lotto was hbcu. Hbcu. They were Texas Southern, Gramlin. I like. Oh, really? Hey, listen, I probably should have went to one of those. They might not have gotten in the magazine, but we had a couple.

Host 2 (Ocho) (84:32)

Yeah. EBONY and Jet magazine was his. Was. Was iconic back then, huh?

Host 1 (84:36)

Yes, for sure, for sure.

Host 2 (Ocho) (84:40)

What happened to essence? Remember essence?

Host 1 (84:42)

Ah, hell, yeah, I remember Essence.

Host 2 (Ocho) (84:44)

Yeah.

Host 1 (84:45)

Oh, man, them was the days, man.

Host 2 (Ocho) (84:47)

Oh, yeah.

Host 1 (84:47)

Those were the days. Jet magazine, Essence and everybody, man.

Host 2 (Ocho) (84:52)

Damn good memories.

Host 1 (84:58)

Those are the time, boy, you got.

Host 2 (Ocho) (85:00)

Me the air, boy.

Host 1 (85:02)

Yeah, yeah.

Host 2 (Ocho) (85:04)

Jet Beauty of the Week. You started looking. You still looking at her name, her location?

Host 1 (85:09)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Host 2 (Ocho) (85:11)

You know, if you try to find it, they get them.

Host 1 (85:13)

Sometimes they have a profile and pull and pull it together and start Jet.

Host 2 (Ocho) (85:17)

Again, you know, her little Facebook. A little Facebook be right there and all that, you know.

Host 1 (85:21)

They had no damn Facebook back then, man.

Host 2 (Ocho) (85:23)

Now they had something.

Host 1 (85:25)

They have nothing. They had that. She went to Howard or she went to Hampton or she went to Grandpa. She went to Southern.

Host 2 (Ocho) (85:32)

Hold on.

Host 1 (85:32)

Or she was from la.

Host 2 (Ocho) (85:35)

There was always something there. Hold on. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Hold on. It was always something there.

Host 1 (85:47)

Oh, they. Oh, they say Jet still digitally. No, I don't want no digital. I wanted a paper. I want to feel that little. That little book about this big right here, big in my head. Right here. About that big right there. I would. I would have.

Host 2 (Ocho) (86:03)

Okay. Mental Health dance.

Rasheed Shahid (86:05)

Okay.

Host 2 (Ocho) (86:05)

Yeah, yeah. They. They still have it.

Host 1 (86:07)

Oh, you got. You. Oh, you pulled it up.

Host 2 (Ocho) (86:10)

Yeah, I pulled it up.

Host 1 (86:11)

Okay.

Host 2 (Ocho) (86:13)

But this thing go way back, boy. Yeah, I'm looking. I'm looking at some of the old ones, like 2000, you know? I'm looking at one Ms. Selena Gilbert, mental health therapist from Philadelphia. In her spare time, she enjoys modeling, acting, dancing, and listening to music. Okay.

Host 1 (86:31)

Damn.

Host 2 (Ocho) (86:32)

Yeah.

Host 1 (86:33)

Well, I remember today, man. I remember I was in high school and college. I said, oh, sure wish I could meet me one of them. But I never forget. Oh, y' all tell that thing. Tell that. That Jet. Beauty of the Jet setup. Old out.

Host 2 (Ocho) (86:48)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Host 1 (86:49)

Put Scotch tape on the back. Wow.

Host 2 (Ocho) (86:51)

And hang it on.

Host 1 (86:51)

Why don't we get that brick wall.

Host 2 (Ocho) (86:53)

Wait, you rip. You ripped up the Jet magazine.

Host 1 (86:57)

That's all I wanted. I ain't want the. What the hell?

Host 2 (Ocho) (87:02)

You ain't read nothing else?

Host 1 (87:04)

Nah, not really. Not really? No. I ain't been to hold you on that. No. They going up on the wall. I had them all up on the wall, man. Sean, why you got this up on your wall? Don't worry about it. It's my wall. Why you think I got it up there? I'm dreaming. Let me dream in this throwback, huh?

Host 2 (Ocho) (87:28)

I'm looking a jet. Beauty of the week. Go way back to the 70s, huh?

Host 1 (87:35)

I definitely remember when I was in. When I was in high school. I got to high school in 83.

Host 2 (Ocho) (87:40)

Oh, okay. You right. You're right.

Host 1 (87:41)

Yeah. I mean, that was time. We can get a little money, you know. We. We got a good little money. We. You know, a week. Oh. You know, back then, Ocho, I don't know if they still have it. Like, they used to have magazines in the grocery store.

Host 2 (Ocho) (87:56)

Yeah.

Host 1 (87:57)

So granny would. Granted. Would go shopping. Me and. Me and Spike, we go, hey, go to the section. Go look at the magazine, right? And then they put a sign, please do not read magazines unless you pay for it. Man. Get out of here.

Host 2 (Ocho) (88:12)

Yeah, that's the hell.

Host 1 (88:18)

The hell. Read this. And then I got. Then they came out with a. I got a hold of a gq.

Odoo Advertiser (88:29)

Yeah.

Host 1 (88:30)

And Dupont registry.

Host 2 (Ocho) (88:32)

Okay. As you got a little older college. Hold on, hold on. You remember. Remember Smooth magazine?

Host 1 (88:40)

Yeah, I remember.

Dana White (88:41)

Yeah.

Host 2 (Ocho) (88:42)

Remember Smooth. Yeah.

Host 1 (88:43)

And King.

Host 2 (Ocho) (88:44)

Oh, I remember King. Okay. Yeah, King. Yeah, I remember King.

Host 1 (88:49)

Actually, actually, leave that alone.

Host 2 (Ocho) (88:52)

Yeah, don't do it.

Host 1 (88:53)

I. I might have dated somebody in King magazine. Who.

Host 2 (Ocho) (89:00)

Who you dating? Who you dated? Huh?

Host 1 (89:04)

No shade. Well, hell with he.

Host 2 (Ocho) (89:05)

Well, now I. I know you were. But go ahead, tell me you were dating, though, huh? Okay, how about this? Tell me what year.

Host 1 (89:12)

I don't remember. I know what you're trying to do. You try to put two or two together. The goat. 20, 22. Who do you think the Browns could get for their head coach with candidates gone and others turning them down?

Host 2 (Ocho) (89:29)

Man, don't nobody want to go there.

Host 1 (89:31)

Think about it.

Host 2 (Ocho) (89:31)

Who we think they can get? Everybody turned them down.

Host 1 (89:34)

Mike McDaniels. I'd rather go be an offensive coordinator than your head coach, Coach.

Host 2 (Ocho) (89:39)

Nah, man. Anybody want to take that job, man.

Host 1 (89:42)

Everybody talking about Vita Guerrero. I remember Vita.

Host 2 (Ocho) (89:46)

Oh, yeah.

Host 1 (89:49)

I'm saying that. You see it in the magazine.

Host 2 (Ocho) (89:51)

Yeah. Okay, okay. Hey, what was the girl you dated? Was. Was she a car company, like four.

Host 1 (89:59)

Man, Go ahead on, Ocho.

Host 2 (Ocho) (90:01)

I'm just asking. You know, I drew. You know, I drove a Ford bad.

Host 1 (90:06)

Look here Alex Stacy. Patriots with Mike Brable again from the Titans. Was there. Aj. AJ should go there from the Eagles. As an Eagle. From an Eagles fan. No. Cause Mike Raven gonna run the football.

Host 2 (Ocho) (90:24)

Yeah.

Host 1 (90:25)

He ain't throwing the ball all over the damn.

Host 2 (Ocho) (90:30)

They throw it, but not like that.

Host 1 (90:31)

No. Hell, no. And you gotta have balance. Look at the teams. Seattle run it. Rams with Kyron William run it. Ramon Dre, Steve or Ramon J. Stevens and Henderson run it. The Broncos try to run it now. They. They just got act. J.K. dobbins is back. But three of the four teams, that's in the super bowl, that's. That's in the Final Four. Ocho, they run the football.

Host 2 (Ocho) (90:59)

Yeah.

Host 1 (91:00)

And they throw it, but they run it. You gotta have balance. J. All underscore 912. What's up, 91 2. What's up, y'? All my family from Baxley. Okay. Applin County. I grew up in Savannah's on Waters Avenue. I know exactly what that is. I first learned how to drive on a dirt road in Glenville, Georgia, when I was 12. That's what we talking about. 912 to Gville. He grew up in Baxley. That's where we used to take to tobacco. We would crop tobacco. They had a. Where we would take the cured tobacco. We take it over there and we sell it. My grandfather did that, and then we worked for the Tatums. That's where we'd always take it. And I remember Ocho, we. Me, my brother and cousins, we would ride on the back of the truck. They had this big old. Like a big old truck with size on it. And we'd be on top of it. Man, they throw everybody in jail. They found. They fill their kids. You let your kids do that now?

Host 2 (Ocho) (91:52)

Ride the back of the truck? Yeah.

Host 1 (91:54)

On top of tobacco.

Host 2 (Ocho) (91:56)

Okay.

Odoo Advertiser (91:56)

Okay.

Host 2 (Ocho) (91:56)

So it was.

Host 1 (91:57)

Yeah, it was big. It was, you know, sheets of tobacco.

Host 2 (Ocho) (91:59)

Yeah.

Host 1 (92:02)

But appreciate that, Jay. It sure will not. Never mind. Superman. CJ Couldn't even be blank, man. Shaking my head. Come on, man. Kevin Boat Knight. Ocho. How y' all fellas doing tonight? Love what y' all do every night. Keep the grind goats. Kev, we doing good, bro. We doing good. God is good. Life is good. Everybody's healthy. The kids are healthy.

Host 2 (Ocho) (92:28)

All is well.

Host 1 (92:29)

Yep. So cannot complain. I got my sister, I got my sis here with me, so we good. Well, she needs to stop eating all these damn sweets, though. Get the switch out my damn house. Bad eating cupcake donuts. Every time I turn around, here comes somebody dropping something. I'm like, who dropping this stuff off? She going to the door. Shelly. Shelly ordered this? No. You told Shelly to order this? Ain't no Shelly. Just ordering food. Chipotle. I had a taste for this. What Outback. You got carrot cake. She got all kind of stuff. And she don't eat it all at once. I bought my sister sandwich. I bought her a sandwich on Friday. Yeah, well, I just finished my sandwich on Monday. So she eat a quarter of it at a time. So each day she eat a quarter of a sandwich. So she'll eat the sandwich and she'll cut it up in quarters. Right? She'll eat a quarter each day. So I don't know how you eat the whole thing. That was the whole purpose of the sandwich. To eat it all at once.

Host 2 (Ocho) (93:47)

Yeah. That must have been a big sandwich, huh?

Host 1 (93:50)

It's that egg drop from Bulldogies.

Host 2 (Ocho) (93:53)

Oh, yeah. I don't know.

Host 1 (93:54)

If you live in Vegas, you know what Bulldogies is? They got an egg drop. Ocho.

Host 2 (Ocho) (93:59)

Yeah.

Host 1 (94:02)

You get some egg. The eggs are real fluffy. It comes with bacon, sausage. You can get it smothered. It comes with French toast, bread. Lord have mercy. Joe said 1984. Can't wait for the packers to play the Cowgirls again. Again. Everyone will be tuned in so we can put belt to ass. Again. Go, Pack, Go. Rashad. Kadeem Mix Hickson. Unc. Ocho love the show. MVP Stafford of May I took. Stafford.

Host 2 (Ocho) (94:37)

Stafford.

Host 1 (94:40)

Mike. Mike. What's up, Uncle Nocho? Have y' all applied? Have y' all applied for any head coaching jobs? No. Could both help to you both. You both could help teams. Maybe coach the same team. I don't want to coach. Ocho say he want to coach, but he don't. Because you coach. You only tied down to one job, so he can't have 35 jobs.

Host 2 (Ocho) (95:04)

I just want to be the president of football operations, that's all.

Host 1 (95:09)

Okay. President football operations. A120 up for the upcoming live show. Will you be there? Will y' all be doing meet and greet before the show? After the show? Not before. After. Brian's brain says, just received my new nightcap sweater. Had no idea it was made in the by American Apparel in Los Angeles. Love it. Thanks. Appreciate you. Appreciate you. Yep. That's where it's made by Alex Sippos. What do you think about Sean Payton? Pretty much guarantee a win versus the Patch. Had no choice. I love him. Trying to instill confidence. And Stidham say, we believe in you, this team believes in you, and we gonna win. So that concludes this episode of Nightcap. Want to thank each and every one of you for joining us. Want to thank Dana White and we want to thank Rasheed Shahid for joining us. Talk about. Dana was talking about the UFC matchup this Saturday at T Mobile with Gaethje and Patty. The baddie black beast against Acosta will also be there. So thank you, Dana. Thank you, Rasheed Shahid, for joining us also, and good luck. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. Do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed, wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support. Thanks to you, Nightcap, all the awards that we won was because of you. Will continue to strive and reach higher heights only because of you. Again, thank you for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by La Portier and you cannot find it any state or city near you, head to laportiercognac.com to order your bottle. We have the OG, which is the 750. Now we have the Junior, which is the 375. Same great quality, same great taste, same smoothness. Please. Drake responsible. Be safe. Tickets for our super bowl live show in San Francisco are on sale now. That link is pinned in the chat. The show will be Thursday night, February 5th at the Earps Theater in San Francisco Bay Area. Come on out, show. Love to Uncan, Ocho and Nightcap. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. Again, thanks, Dana White. Again, thanks, wide receiver Rasheed Shahid for joining us. That concludes this episode. We're off tomorrow night, but we'll see you. We're off tomorrow. Okay, we're off tomorrow and Saturday, two nights off. Damn. I don't know what's going on. What kind of operation y' all running?

Host 2 (Ocho) (97:46)

Wait, today, Friday?

Host 1 (97:46)

Ain't it today? Thursday?

Host 2 (Ocho) (97:51)

Oh, that's crazy.

Host 1 (97:53)

Hell, if I knew that, I'd have been home, I'd have went to the Atlantic.

Host 2 (Ocho) (97:57)

You are home. Where you at?

Host 1 (97:58)

I'm in Vegas.

Host 2 (Ocho) (97:59)

Oh, my bad.

Host 1 (98:01)

I need to get home at some.

Host 2 (Ocho) (98:02)

Point in time or when you go to the A, let me know.

Host 1 (98:06)

You gonna come down there?

Host 2 (Ocho) (98:07)

Yeah, we can go to Magic City. I'm still waiting to try the damn wings.

Host 1 (98:10)

Come on. Oh, show, man.

Host 2 (Ocho) (98:13)

Well, what the hell?

Host 1 (98:14)

You can't go get something to eat and just chill?

Host 2 (Ocho) (98:16)

What, are we going to Atlanta for the chair?

Host 1 (98:18)

I'm going to chill.

Host 2 (Ocho) (98:20)

We gonna chill at Magic City and get some damn wings.

Host 1 (98:26)

Y' all see what I'm saying? Y' all see what I'm saying? Chat. Hey, man, listen, every time, every time I try to get out, I'm just.

Host 2 (Ocho) (98:33)

Trying to live, man. I'm just trying to live.

Host 1 (98:35)

Oh, so I'm trying to live.

Host 2 (Ocho) (98:37)

Okay, well, you not living. You alive, but you're not living.

Host 1 (98:40)

Okay.

Host 2 (Ocho) (98:40)

We need to experience life.

Host 1 (98:43)

Okay?

Host 2 (Ocho) (98:44)

Yeah.

Host 1 (98:45)

I'll make sure I don't let you know when I go to Atlanta. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Want to thank each and every one of you for joining us. Thank you. Thank you so much for joining us. We are Thursday and we are Friday and Saturday. We'll see you Sunday after the the Rams, Seahawks. Somebody two teams and then there'll be two. There are four now, but then there will be two. I'm ump. He's Ocho Pe. Sam.

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