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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
The volume we got more details on the Shador fall According to Boomer Assassin, multiple team owners ordered their coaching staff to remove Shador from their draft.
Joe Johnson
Would that be called collusion? I'm just curious, but that be called collusion or.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
No, hold on, hold on. Let me. Boomer said they took him off, and they took him off because the owner said, take him off. I don't want that guy. No, if an owner. If I say Joe, if I own a restaurant, I say Joe, and Joe is the head chef. Joe, I don't want you to sell lobster, okay? There's another owner that has a seafood shop. Joe, I don't want you to sell lobster. No. You hear reports he didn't take it as seriously as he needed to. He go, I don't. Look, at the end of the day, for me, let's just say everything everybody's saying is true. Ocho. I really don't know what else to add. I think the thing is, is that sometimes, you know, maybe he looked at it. You know, my dad, you know, the Giants asked the dad for an interview. Todd asked him, say, when y'all picking? Like we picking 16 time said, y'all, I ain't gonna be there when y'all pick, and got up and walked out. But you talking about a. You're talking about a. A transcendent. You talking about a historically great player. Everybody can't do that. Remember, we talked about it two years ago. Two years ago, Ojo, about Marvin Harrison Jr. How he didn't work out, he didn't do nothing. I said, ojo, everybody can't do that. You got to be. You've got to be legit, legit, beyond legit in order to pull a punch like that. Or they will humble you. They will. And so I look, ojo, unless you get people that was making those decisions and ask them flat out and says, what was it about Shador that you didn't like? And why didn't you select him? Such and such, such and such. Other than that, it's all gonna be speculation.
Joe Johnson
It ain't no speculation.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I've worked with Boomer for a dentist.
Joe Johnson
We done been around the game too long now. We done been around the game too long. You know what it was.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Do I believe owners told. Do I believe people told Boomer that? Yes, I do.
Joe Johnson
Of course it's the same thing. I said, we've never seen anything like that before. For someone to be graded that high on draft boards throughout the entirety of. Not just the season, but right before the draft and all of a sudden to go in the fifth round. I never said it was anything. Anything about race. Forget Race throw race out the door. I'm talking about the humbling process. I'm talking about the collective decision of collusion amongst those. You know what? The Sanders family is different. The Sanders family is different. It's different.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Let me ask you. Let me ask you this, Joe, before you go, let me ask you this. Let's just say, for the sake of argument, we say graded. We're talking about Mel Kiefer grades, Todd McShay grades. We're talking about Peter Schrager, we're talking about Lou Riddick, we talk about Bucky Brooks. What about the team grades? Those are the grades that we need to see. Because at the end of the day, the people that grade that we read, the Mel Kuiper, the Todd McShay, the Peter Schragers, and this one and that one, they don't make no decision. So in other words, Joe, I need to see the grade that the 32 teams have on Shador and now. Because what if they. What if they had him middle. A middle round draft pick, A late round draft?
Joe Johnson
The devil is a lie. The devil is a. The devil is a lie.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
We'll never know. We'll never know.
Joe Johnson
The scouts, scouts Mel Kuiper, Lewis, Rick and everyone else who's been doing this for eons of years have the same eyes, the same set of eyes that the GMs and the scouts have. Now. If you watch Shador and a lot of people on, you know, on Twitter and, oh, he's not that good, man. What. What are y'all.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
What are you.
Joe Johnson
What are we talking about? Are you watching the game of football? I've been watching for a very long time. Actually. Actually since I was 4 years old, matter of fact, I played the position who had to catch the ball from the goddamn quarterback. So I know what it looks like when the quarterback's actually decent. Come on now.
Unknown
I think it's gonna work out for him, man. I think, you know, like I said, all the talk about all this, the fact that he got an opportunity, Uncle Ocho, I think he gonna take full advantage of it, man. And it looks like he may get a. A chance sooner than later, you know? Yeah, sometimes, man, but this might not be a bad, Joe.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You know, Sometimes.
Unknown
I know, I know. It might not be a bad.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I agree. Sometimes. Sometimes, man, it just like people want to see failure. People like, look, there's 50% of the people don't care that you have a problem. The other 50%, glad you got them. Yeah. So in other words, they don't give a Damn about you. 50% don't care, you got a problem. The other 50%. Glad you got the problem.
Unknown
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
50%. Hey. So at the end of the day, there ain't nothing we, we can speculate and we could surmise, but at the end of the day, when you get your opportunities, that's what I. That's what I always felt. Ocho. I thought I was going to be somewhere between a first and a third round draft pick, you know? Hey, I only heard from two teams. Guess what? The two teams that called me Ocho. Say what, what's your phone number? Where you gonna be?
Unknown
Shut the.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Up next door. Cincinnati Bengals and the Seattle Seahawks.
Joe Johnson
And then you ain't go to neither one of them.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, they ain't want your boy.
Joe Johnson
I'm telling you. Shador. Shador. It's. Shador's. It's a blessing. It's a blessing. Though. They haven't had a quarterback, and since Bernie Kozar, they went through multiple quarterbacks, they had a quarterback carousel for a very long time. And I guarantee this is the blessing for him and him ending up there and having to work his way, work his way from the bottom back up. I. I like it. I. I like it for him. I like it for him. And he. He built for this.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
He built for this one of my good. One of my good. Go ahead.
Unknown
Who he got to throw to over there?
Joe Johnson
Jerry Judy. Jerry Judy. David. How you say it?
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Njoku, njoku.
Joe Johnson
They just, they just, they just added Deontay Johnson. He's a real twitchy. Another route runner similar to Jerry Judy. I like it. He gonna be all right. Yeah, he gonna be all right.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Chris Carter, good friend of mine, brother in the hall of Pro Football hall of Fame alongside me. Say what? I thought shedeur throwing away at least 30 to 50 million dollars in the NFL draft and makes it clear he doesn't believe the NFL owners colluded against him. Shadora and his family overplayed their hands. They taught him a great lesson. They did. They will. Every Ocho, you know, people, we look at Archie and Eli's situation. Remember how I told yo Joe? I said, look, you got to evaluate your situation based on your situation. You can't be looking at somebody else and how they treated them and think you gonna get that same type of treatment.
Joe Johnson
You know you ain't gonna get that same type of treating. Cause it's different. They can do that.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Okay. Oh, okay.
Joe Johnson
They can do that.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
But we supposed. But we supposed to know that going in. See if I already know what I'm up against. I ain't got no problem. Cause I already know what I'm up against. See, that's why we studied tape on Joe. Because I need to know what you gonna do on first down. Second down, third down. What you gonna do on third and short, Third and long, second red zone, this area of the field. So I know I have a pretty good idea. Now, you go in the game and you don't know Ojo. Come on now. You know how this thing go.
Joe Johnson
They. They will remind you.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I don't have to learn a lesson once. I don't have to learn a lesson but once, don't you? Hey, I can tell you what. My grandmother never tore my ass up for something I did. Twice. Cause she shut down on you the first time. Okay, okay. You learned. Lesson learned.
Joe Johnson
Damn.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
It's a tough lesson. It's a tough lesson to learn. Meanwhile, Shador arrived in Cleveland and is already putting in the work for the upcoming season. Shador is ready to prove all the haters wrong.
Joe Johnson
Hey, I got a question. Since I obviously, if I cut myself right now, obviously, you know, I bleed black and orange. Cincinnati at heart. Can I get a Shador Sanders jersey?
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
No, Cincinnati, Cleveland, y'all build a rival.
Joe Johnson
We bitter rivals. But like, so, okay, see, that's. That's tough. That's. That's a good chad. What y'all think? You know? And you know, I'm Cincinnati, but I'm a fan. I'm a fan of Shador. So. No, no.
Unknown
Yeah. Go get the jersey, Ocho.
Joe Johnson
Hey, but don't wear it. Don't wear it, though.
Unknown
You might even want to get a signature on it, man. It might be worth something.
Joe Johnson
Okay. Okay, Bomb. I think I'm going to do that. Yeah, I'mma do that.
Unknown
Matter of fact, when you get you one. You think you can get me one?
Joe Johnson
I can get you one. I get you one. I got you. I got. Matter of fact, I can get you some Dion, too. You want some shoes? I can get you some shoes.
Unknown
All right, now don't threaten me with no good time here.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
But I'm glad the draft is over. I mean, I don't know if we've had a prospect Ojo that we've talked about more leading up to the draft. During the draft, after the draft, I don't know if we've had a player ojo in my time. I'm a little older than you and Joe, that we've talked about as much as we talked about Shador Savage.
Unknown
He's probably turn the tape on. I mean, you see it. I mean, he a hell of a quarterback, man. I mean, I think, you know, he get a knock because of the. Maybe he don't run as much as people would like him to, but he's standing in the pocket. Dark thrower.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You know what I mean? Right? He. Look, look, I. I don't know. Look, I. I think the thing is that when your dad is time and you talk about athleticism out of the yang, but none of his kids are as athletic as him. None of his kids can run like he can. None of his kids can jump like he can, bro. Ken Griffey. I had Ken Griffey on and he's like, he used to go watch his son Trey play, and he's like, he's at the plate and the guy said, boy, you nothing like your daddy. Ken said, well, name five players. Right? Okay, you talking about, well, his sons are not like Deion. Okay, name five players that are like Deion, that have the athleticism that Deion had, that can do what he did in football and baseball. Name five players that can do that. You can't see, you know, Oh, I think this guy, we always do this, Joe. This guy be a heck of a basketball. This guy be a heck of a football player, or this guy be a heck of a basketball player. I ain't got to say what I saw him do it. You can't say, well, man, time could have played baseball. He did, man. He'd have been a good football player. He's legendary. He's historically transcendently great. And because your offspring doesn't display or doesn't have those skills, that doesn't mean they can't be great in their own right. For me, for him to make it as far as he did with his dad being who he is, I think that Says a lot about the son, and that says a lot about the dad. By not handing them, giving them handouts, making them earn everything they got. And him, even though that's his dad wanting to get it on his own, the father should put his son in a situation. I have, I have means that I have access to some of the great coaches, some of the great quarterbacks, some of the great, you know, whatever. Nutritionist, okay? That's what you do. You set your kids up for success. You give them the best. You owe your kids an education and to give them the best start possible.
Unknown
Set them up to succeed.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
That's. And then after that, you know, you're like, oh, hopefully you've done a great enough job that they got it. They got it figured out. Now, hey, you might have to, you know, kickstart them again, and the next time, you might have to kick him in the ass. But hey, hopefully they. They figure it out. But after getting drafted, new Seahawks quarterback Jaylen Milro says that's that he will be paying back his parents for all the money they spent while he was in college. I want to calculate all the miles, all the money my parents spent in college, I'm going to give it back, man. If I calculate all the money my mom you gave me, it'd probably be $250.
Unknown
Hey, I think that's dope, though, when you know them, these kids, because they all, they all are kids coming into a lot of money, you know, being able to, you know, look back, you know, take care of your family first, man, make sure moms, grandma, all them, make sure they straight. Because the sacrifices that they make when we kids, bro, you know, that's everything. You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, I. Hey, look, I remember. I remember my mom buying me 140 pair of shoes. We couldn't even pay light bill, gas, hear me? So we might have to go a couple days with the gas off. Ain't no hot water. I'm about to go down here to grandma house for a little while.
Joe Johnson
But you had them shoes, though.
Unknown
That was how it was. My grandma stayed about 10 houses down. So I go stay at grandma house. I come home, the lights off, the gas off. I already know what time it is. I'm gonna go on after my house for a little while, get it back, right?
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
And that's the thing, my grandma, the sacrifices that she made, you know, you raise your own nine, and then you take your mom's three, and you love them more than you love your own nine. Oh, absolutely. That's my thought process, you know, that's. But that's why. That's why I do what I do. I mean, some people, like, well, hey, I don't have to give this. I don't have to do that. Okay, you don't. You don't because you're here because of a decision that you didn't make. Your parents made a decision to get together. You were created. So you. Theoretically, you're right, you got here by means that you didn't have anything to do with. But me being the person that I am, Ocho, man, I couldn't.
Joe Johnson
Man. I think. I think that.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
See my grandma, all that.
Joe Johnson
What she went through, I think that would be any.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Working and working. My grandma. Grandmother was a maid at the nursing home. My grandmother washing other people, washing their bodies and all that stuff.
Joe Johnson
And I think that.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Let me get some. They couldn't have did for me.
Joe Johnson
Depending on. Everybody got a different story, huh? Everybody got a different story. But I think if you. If you. If you. If you were to tell every story and pull back all the layers of it and talk about the sacrifices, mothers and grandmothers in the village, you know, it takes a village now. You know, it ain't. Sometimes it's just one. Your mama. Sometimes it wasn't just your. Your grandfather or your father. You know, it's other people that also help you along the way and. And kept you in line. Yeah, because everybody wasn't always on the straight narrow, you know. You know, doing. Doing your adolescence. So there are many people that you want to. You want to look back and. And give them thanks.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
And.
Joe Johnson
And most. Most of the time that thanks is. Is through, you know, a way of. A way of finances, you know, because you didn't have to do that. I ain't have shoulder pads. I ain't have cleats, you know, I ain't had shoes to go to school. You know, there were people. There are people that help you along the way that you got to go back. And it's such a great feeling to be able to. To be blessed, to be able to achieve and reach a childhood dream of yours where you always want to go back and bless those that bless you along the way when you really had nothing.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yep.
Unknown
It's a great feeling, too, man.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
It's a great.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, man. Beautiful feeling.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
A man had to be rescued twice off of Mount Fuji. Ocho. A man was airlifted from Mount Fuji. Then he got rescued a couple of days later, because you know what? Ocho, he realized he had forgot his phone on Top of the mountain. So he got up there and got stuck again.
Joe Johnson
What kind of phone he got, Nick?
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I don't know what it was. It had just been. Hey, listen, you better have it alive. You better have it on the cloud.
Joe Johnson
Hey, it was something in that phone. Not the double back and go get it after knowing you done got lost. Is something in that phone ain't got no business now. And he want nobody else to find it.
Unknown
Ain't no way.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
But it's not. It's not known whether or not he was able to find the phone, but it did had to go loc. They did had to rescue him twice.
Joe Johnson
Yes. I mean, that phone ain't got no business now. I. I climbed. That's Mount Fuji, right? Yeah. I ain't never climbed Mount Fuji. I climbed Mount Everest before. But Mount Fuji must be different if he got lost. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Boy, you should have seen me where I climbed my Everest back in. I think in the off season. That was 2000, I think. Seven. Yeah, 2007.
Unknown
It ain't a lot you ain't done, huh?
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
No.
Joe Johnson
Huh?
Unknown
I said it ain't a lot that you ain't done. It ain't. I noticed that, you know. I know.
Joe Johnson
Hey. Hey. You know. Hey, I didn't live too live, Joe. Joe. I didn't live too last, boy. I didn't live too loud. It was. It was a great climb. It was a great climb. I had a tour guide with me to make sure I didn't get lost. To make sure I didn't freeze at the time. The time was perfect after football season.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
They're called sherpas. Huh? They're called Sherpas.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, sure. I. Yeah, yeah, that's. I. I don't. I didn't know the correct terminology. I just called him a tour guide to make sure I get lost. Hey, I had. I had canned food. I had canned food. I had snacks with me. Joe, Water. How long it took? Huh?
Unknown
How long did it take?
Joe Johnson
Shoot me. You know, I move kind of fast, boy. It took about. About seven hours. Yeah. To get up and down.
Unknown
Okay.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, that was me, you know, when I. Once I started climbing. Once I started climbing, you know, I don't stop now, but.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yes, it ain't. But you haven't. Yeah, but you had done hard.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah. I didn't. I didn't done about everything, man. The only thing left for me to do, hey Joe, Is I'm going to Norway or New Zealand and I'm assuming killer whales in the wild.
Unknown
You swimming? Killer whale?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, man, That's. That's.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
That's.
Joe Johnson
That's. That's my spirit animal, man. My. My whole left side of my. My leg. I got a long sleeve from the waist all the way to my ankle. Killer whales and, you know, all type of just aquatic stuff, having to deal with killer whales. And that's. That's my last. The last thing on my bucket list. And I'm. I'm good. I can just sit down and relax and. And tell my grandkids, tell my kids, and it's. That's it. I done it.
Unknown
All.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Joe Ocho said takes him, like. Took him like, seven hours. Ocho. Yeah. Joe, they said the average length of time to climb Mount Everest is about 50 to 60 days.
Joe Johnson
Did you hear what you just said? You said the average. You said the average length of time, right?
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
No, that's the fastest. I mean, most times it takes them 80 days. Takes them two and a half hours. Because you can only go because the altitude is so high.
Joe Johnson
It's hot. It's hot. Let me tell you.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You can't go because. Because. Hey, you get the beat.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hold on. I had on. I had on my Hazma suit. I had on my Hazma suit, so the altitude didn't really affect me at all. It took me.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, you have to. I know you didn't take. I know you didn't do it.
Joe Johnson
On what you call them, it took it average. That's for average people.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yes.
Joe Johnson
I'm not average.
Unknown
You far from that far from.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. So I'm trying. He. He reading something, you know, about. For average people. The average people that do it right. It took me seven hours.
Unknown
You're a bad boy.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Yeah. That's what my principal used to say.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Francis. Time was recorded was 10 hours and 56 minutes and 46 seconds. Hold on, hold on. But he was a Sherpa, and this record was set with the use of supplemental oxygen.
Joe Johnson
I just. I just told you I had my Hazma suit, and that was my supplemental oxygen.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Hazmat suit ain't got nothing to do with that.
Joe Johnson
It was a contraption that I created, and it was to help me with the oxygen, like when the astronauts go to. Go to space. I had one of them.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Unknown
Hey, listen, it's been a little short time, so we all been hanging out, man. But I'm starting to figure out what's going on around here. Hey, listen, I got two ears and one mouth for a reason, okay? I'm gonna listen twice. You figured that?
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Joe figured it out.
Unknown
I figured it Out. Boy, I know what. Somebody trying to pull the wool over my eyes. Boy, I know what's going on.
Joe Johnson
Joe, one thing. One thing about. I got the picture. Hold on. I got the picture. I'm gonna show you. I'll show you a picture on mine, everything.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
But. But you do realize, Ojo, in order for him to do that, he's from that region, so you have to. So those Sherpas, they're from the Nepal. So you have to be from that region in order to. Huh?
Joe Johnson
I guarantee you. And also, it's probably the Sherper that did the 10 hours. I guarantee that's the same one. His name was Paul Eaton. That's how we did it in seven hours. Yeah, we had Paul Eaton. I guarantee that's him. It was a good. It was a good clown, too.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Now, Lapaka, Gilu, Sherpa.
Joe Johnson
Oh, that must have been his cousin.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Joe, we had a question last week, and we never got to hear you answer. Who you taking? A hundred men or one girl?
Unknown
Hey, listen.
Joe Johnson
That should be funny all day on Twitter.
Unknown
Let me tell you something. I was just. I was thinking about that. Cause the first 20, 30, 40 guys, y'all gotta take a beating. Come. I'm being the back. I'll let y'all know right now. I'm gonna be in the back, and I'm gonna come help y'all later. But I'm not gonna be one of the first 30, 40, 50 dudes. We're in trouble. I'm sorry, man.
Joe Johnson
You know, the funny. The funny part is about it, and Joe, I don't think people. People have seen gorillas. They look at YouTube. They look at the zoo. They don't think. They understand how big they are in person. They don't understand how big they. How powerful they are. You don't understand it because, you know, muscle, you just don't get it. So hypothetically, you think it can happen because it's a hundred human beings. Human beings. Like, it's.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
It's one lick. The first. Them first 10, they dead.
Unknown
They ain't got a chance. You got to be sacrificed or something.
Joe Johnson
Hey, I told you. I'ma go.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I'm a go.
Joe Johnson
I'm not gonna be in the first wave of dudes. I'm not gonna be in the second wave. I ain't gonna be in the third wave. I'm gonna be in the fourth wave. I'm gonna be all the way in the back. Because when they had a funeral, somebody got to be able to. Got to be there to tell the story that's going to be me, huh? I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be there to tell the story, man. Jake. Jake gave it.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Jake gave it a go. So let me get this right. So I just need to know. So if everybody's bare handed, the silverback ain't got nothing and none of the humans got nothing. So ain't nobody got no spares, no knife, no rocks, no nothing. Oh, y'all, man. And then.
Joe Johnson
Hold on, you're not even thinking about this. We not think about how fast and how quick and how agile a gorilla is. Yeah, you forget about all that, man, please.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, God. Y'all asked me what the neighbor told me. He said, be quiet over there.
Joe Johnson
Wait, who. Who told you to be quiet?
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, yeah, but I was joking. I'm surprised because normally I don't have anybody tell them.
Joe Johnson
Tell them to come knock on the thing and tell them to come.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
To come to the on camera and no, no, no. He. He sleep.
Joe Johnson
That'd be dope, though.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
He sleep down.
Joe Johnson
Tell him to come on camera.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
He'll leave it over here.
Joe Johnson
That'd be dope.
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Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
All right, we gonna get the idea of this one. This is nice. Time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q.
Joe Johnson
Hey, don't. Don't let him punk you. Keep screaming. Are you whispering now?
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Cause cuz that's exactly what I do when people be laughing and joking. I go knock right on the door. Yeah, Connor with a K. If 10 to 15 men were taking down woolly mammoth, a hundred could definitely take a gorilla. Well, Connor, I'll let you go ahead and handle that. I don't want no problem.
Joe Johnson
A woolly mammoth isn't even dangerous. What are we talking about?
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
But first of all, they took down the woolly mammoth. They had spears. They ain't taking down no woolly mammoth with just their bare hands. And you ain't touching no silverback with just your bare hands, bro. I'm telling you, he's killing the first man. He hit the first ten y'all dead on contact. And plus he probably gonna rip your arm out of the socket. He gonna bite you. They bite.
Joe Johnson
Hey, people scared of pit bulls, dude. Scared of people with pit bulls. But your dog bite.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
He got kicked off.
Joe Johnson
But a gorilla, man, stop playing a.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Gorilla, man, Y'all saw that, man, they had the gorilla. They was at the track, they were trekking in Rwanda. And then one of them silverbacks came and the lady and he just grabbed him by the leg and just walked on. Just walked on like it was nothing. Like he, like he had a five pound bag of potatoes and that's a full grown person. They gonna sit out there.
Unknown
They gonna sit out there and wait for them gorillas, man. They gonna hunt them gorillas.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
And they say what you do? You never make eye contact with them.
Joe Johnson
Don't look at him.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
That's a challenge.
Joe Johnson
That's Funny boy.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I was telling you I'm gonna be 98 and I'll be 99.
Joe Johnson
I told you I'm gonna be a hundred. Because somebody gotta let it tell the story.
Unknown
Hey, listen.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, after I see what he do with the 97, I'm gone. Hey, what you ride for that Kemper? No. Wood Jr. Said. Oh, my question is, is the buck season being over? Do y'all see y'all is leaving Milwaukee for another team that isn't Miami?
Joe Johnson
Oh, okay.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Yes, I do. I definitely see him leaving.
Unknown
I see it. I think they probably gonna retool the fact that Dame Torres, Achilles, I mean, that's all.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
That's probably. He probably done. He probably. I don't see him coming back next year.
Unknown
So Giannis, you can get a lot for Giannis, you know what I mean? You can start your rebuilding process, get you some. Get you some talent in there to where you can build and, and, and mature as young pros, man, and try to continue to build as a. As a franchise. But I don't see them coming back with this same squad, man. They gotta retool.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Your two best players in franchise history didn't stay Kareem and giannis. Kareem won three MVPs, finals MVP went to two, finals one one. Giannis won two MVPs, finals MVP went to one.
Unknown
They're gonna leave because you ain't gonna get no help. Nobody gonna sign it. Anybody gonna sign in Milwaukee?
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Nope.
Unknown
Sorry, Ocho. They ain't coming to Miami neither.
Joe Johnson
Brother, listen, at least I tried to tell y'all don't nobody want to listen to me until it happened. But okay, you'll see.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
I want to hear that guy underscore. That guy underscore D. Fry Ant Man. Spider Man. Damn it, man. Lakers and 9.
Joe Johnson
9.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
A dab said delusional. Stop. You know, the Lakers are done. I guess when the Lakers lose tomorrow, I guess we're saying Lakers and 8. They not losing tomorrow, though. Nah. Reggae Reg said Mark Williams would have helped a lot. He would have. Father said LA Clippers equal to Cleveland Browns. Pat Dove said, next fellow Cinco, you should have Ocho spell exacerbate and deplorable because that's how the Heat series went.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hold on. Deplorable. D, E, P, L, O, R, A, B, L, E. Come on, man. That's what I do, man. You talk about, man. It's the Harvard education.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
Trucker Banks said, in my opinion, he's the best quarterback in the class, the most pro ready his mechanics and footwork Is better than the guys ahead of him. His timing will improve too, with coaching. Guess we gonna find out. Ou SS2004 it was reported team saw Shador as a backup, but the circus that came comes with him wasn't worth it for a backup. Any belief in that? I ain't making that decision. I mean, that's what if that's how they see him? That's how they see him. I mean, who am I to say Ocho, what it is or what it isn't? I don't know. It's just. I ain't got anything else to add. We've heard everything. Owners didn't want him. People didn't feel like he didn't have a high enough grade. Everybody thought he was. I mean, a lot of teams thought he was a mid to a late round pick. He didn't interview well in the interview. He didn't take it serious for teams that he didn't want to potentially go to. I don't know. It's just speculation. That is speculation because none of the people that's in those positions have come out on record and said this is why. So it's left up to people like myself and Ocho and Joe to come up with a reason or an excuse or whatever the term you want to use to why Shador did not go higher as we thought he should. Maybe he went where we thought where he. Where he should have the team thought he should go. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But he's not the first guy to slide. He won't be the last guy. Now, maybe we didn't see a slide this precipitous, but we've seen, we've seen slides before. But at the end of the day, they gonna give him a helmet, they gonna give shoulder pads, they gonna give him some cleats. What you do if you give somebody the tools to build a house, the type of house that they build is solely abundant incumbent on them. You could a masterpiece or you can have a hood.
Unknown
I think he's gonna do good things, man. You know, this is a whole learning process for him. Like I said, like I've always said, he gonna have that, that chip on his shoulder. He gonna come out of the show, you're gonna come out of the show. He should have been, you know, one of the top picks in this draft. You know, let your play do all the talking, bro. You ain't got to say nothing else.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson)
You got to say nothing else. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Y'all know me. I am your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. My partner and co host, number 85, the legendary Liberty City legend. Bingo Ring of fame honoree. Pro bowler.
Joe Johnson
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Club Shay Shay: Nightcap - Hour 2 Summary
Episode Overview In this episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe hosts a riveting discussion featuring renowned personalities Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson) and Joe Johnson. The conversation delves into the controversial removal of Shedeur Sanders from NFL owners' draft boards, explores the dynamics of the NFL draft process, and shares personal insights and anecdotes. Additionally, the episode highlights an adventurous tale of climbing Mount Everest in an astonishing seven hours. This summary encapsulates the key points, discussions, and conclusions drawn during the episode.
Timestamp: [02:04]
The episode kicks off with Chad Johnson addressing recent developments concerning Shedeur Sanders, the talented quarterback, who has reportedly been taken off NFL owners' draft boards. According to Boomer Assassin, multiple team owners have instructed their coaching staffs to disregard Sanders during the draft process.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson): "Boomer said they took him off, and they took him off because the owner said, take him off. I don't want that guy."
[02:33]
Timestamp: [02:30]
Joe Johnson raises a critical question about the situation, pondering whether the collective decision to exclude Sanders amounts to collusion among NFL owners.
Joe Johnson: "Would that be called collusion? I'm just curious..."
[02:30]
However, Chad refutes the notion of collusion, emphasizing that individual owners have the autonomy to make decisions based on their preferences and team needs.
Ocho Cinco: "No, if an owner. If I say Joe, if I own a restaurant, I say Joe, and Joe is the head chef. Joe, I don't want you to sell lobster, okay?"
[02:33]
Timestamp: [04:18]
The conversation deepens as Joe challenges the idea that external factors, such as race, influenced the draft decisions, attributing Sanders' lower draft pick to the collective humbling process and team evaluations.
Joe Johnson: "Forget Race throw race out the door. I'm talking about the humbling process. They gonna give him a helmet, they gonna give shoulder pads..."
[04:28]
Chad agrees, noting the complexity of draft evaluations and the speculative nature of attributing specific reasons behind Sanders' draft status.
Ocho Cinco: "But unless you get people that was making those decisions and ask them flat out..."
[05:08]
Timestamp: [08:10]
Despite the setbacks, the hosts express optimism about Sanders' potential, particularly in his new role with the Cleveland Browns. They believe that Sanders' resilience and determination will drive him to excel and prove his critics wrong.
Joe Johnson: "It's a blessing for him and him ending up there and having to work his way, work his way from the bottom back up. I like it for him."
[08:10]
Timestamp: [07:28]
The discussion shifts to personal experiences with pressure, highlighting the importance of self-reliance and perseverance. Chad shares insights on overcoming expectations and the value of genuine effort over inherited legacy.
Ocho Cinco: "You got to be legit, legit, beyond legit in order to pull a punch like that. Or they will humble you."
[05:08]
Joe Johnson: "You got to be legit, legit... because I've already been through the tough times."
[07:54]
Timestamp: [21:50]
In a surprising twist, Chad recounts his daring climb of Mount Everest, completing the ascent and descent in just seven hours—a feat far shorter than the average 50 to 60 days required. He humorously details the challenges faced, including being rescued twice and losing his phone on the mountain.
Ocho Cinco: "I climbed Mount Everest before. But Mount Fuji must be different if he got lost."
[23:00]
Joe Johnson: "How long did it take? Shoot me... about seven hours."
[23:43]
The anecdote serves as a metaphor for tackling life's immense challenges swiftly and decisively, drawing parallels to overcoming professional obstacles.
Timestamp: [18:05]
A heartfelt segment emerges as the hosts reflect on the sacrifices made by family members during their upbringing. They emphasize the importance of acknowledging and repaying the support received from parents and grandparents, highlighting personal stories of overcoming hardships with familial assistance.
Joe Johnson: "It's a great feeling to be able to... bless those that bless you along the way when you really had nothing."
[20:31]
Ocho Cinco: "My grandmother washing other people, washing their bodies and all that stuff."
[20:31]
Timestamp: [38:43]
As the episode winds down, Chad and Joe reaffirm their belief in Sanders' ability to thrive despite the challenges he faces. They advocate for a focus on performance and skill over external judgments, urging Sanders to let his play define his career trajectory.
Ocho Cinco: "What you do if you give somebody the tools to build a house... the type of house that they build is solely on them."
[38:43]
Joe Johnson: "He gonna have that chip on his shoulder. He gonna come out of the show..."
[38:43]
Individual Autonomy vs. Collusion: The decision to exclude Shedeur Sanders from draft boards appears to stem from individual team preferences rather than collective collusion.
Resilience and Opportunity: Sanders' placement with the Cleveland Browns is viewed as an opportunity for growth and redemption, showcasing the importance of perseverance.
Personal Growth Through Adversity: Both hosts share personal stories underscoring the value of overcoming challenges and the impact of family support in achieving success.
Adventurous Spirit: Chad's Mount Everest climb symbolizes the determination required to face and conquer significant obstacles swiftly and effectively.
Ocho Cinco (Chad Johnson): "Boomer said they took him off, and they took him off because the owner said, take him off. I don't want that guy."
[02:33]
Joe Johnson: "Forget Race throw race out the door. I'm talking about the humbling process."
[04:28]
Ocho Cinco: "You got to be legit, legit, beyond legit in order to pull a punch like that."
[05:08]
Joe Johnson: "It's a blessing for him and him ending up there and having to work his way from the bottom back up."
[08:10]
Ocho Cinco: "I climbed Mount Everest before. But Mount Fuji must be different if he got lost."
[23:00]
Joe Johnson: "It's a great feeling to be able to... bless those that bless you along the way when you really had nothing."
[20:31]
Ocho Cinco: "What you do if you give somebody the tools to build a house... the type of house that they build is solely on them."
[38:43]
Conclusion This episode of Club Shay Shay masterfully intertwines professional sports analysis with personal narratives, offering listeners a comprehensive look into the complexities of the NFL draft and the resilience required to overcome career setbacks. Chad Cinco's extraordinary feat of climbing Mount Everest adds an adventurous flair, symbolizing the spirit needed to tackle life's challenges head-on. The hosts' candid discussions and motivational insights provide valuable lessons on perseverance, humility, and the importance of familial support in achieving success.