Nightcap Hour 2: Sports Illustrated TOP 5 NFL QBs: Where's BAKER MAYFIELD? + Shannon Sharpe 4th BEST 7th ROUND PICK?!

Summary

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Episode: Nightcap Hour 2 – Sports Illustrated TOP 5 NFL QBs: Where’s BAKER MAYFIELD? + Shannon Sharpe 4th BEST 7th ROUND PICK?!

Date: October 10, 2025
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson

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Episode Overview

This episode of Club Shay Shay’s "Nightcap Hour 2" is a fast-paced, candid conversation between Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson, featuring their unfiltered takes on the latest NFL quarterback rankings, debates over NFL history, reflections on life in and out of football, and voices from the chat. The banter is equal parts nostalgia, humor, and sharp critique, capturing both the camaraderie and competitive instincts of two NFL legends.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Reaction to Sports Illustrated’s Top 15 QB Rankings (00:00–05:20)

• SI’s Top 10 QBs after Week 5: Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Matthew Stafford, Lamar Jackson, Jared Goff, Dak Prescott, Baker Mayfield, Justin Herbert, Jordan Love, Drake May.
• Sharpe & Ochocinco Disagree: Both believe Baker Mayfield and Daniel Jones should be ranked higher for their play this season.
  • Shannon Sharpe (01:15): “There are not six quarterbacks playing the quarterback position better than Baker Mayfield. That is a lie.”
  • Ochocinco (02:15): Admits to doubting Daniel Jones before, but is impressed by his performance in Indy and offers a public apology.
• Evaluation Criteria Debate: The hosts stress that if rankings are based solely on the first five weeks of the 2025 season, reputation and past MVPs shouldn't outweigh current performance.

2. Blind Ranking of Seventh-Round Picks (05:20–11:06)

• Viral Video Segment: Debo Samuel asks rookie RB Jaquori Croskey-Merritt to blind-rank famous 7th-round NFL draftees: Julian Edelman, Bo Jackson, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brock Purdy, and Shannon Sharpe.
  • Ranking Outcome: Sharpe gets slotted 4th—both hosts have a laugh, with Ochocinco insisting Sharpe, a Hall of Famer, deserves to be ranked higher.
  • Ochocinco (06:10): “If you know your history, you know your game, there’s no way you put [Shannon] lower than second.”
• Generational Knowledge Gap: Ochocinco jokes young players are less aware of history, which segues into a discussion of NFL legacy.

3. Chris Jones/Jaguars Game Situation & Athlete Scrutiny (11:06–15:36)

• Chris Jones' Mistake: Jones admits he let up on a game-winning TD, thinking the play was over—a teaching moment.
• Sharpe explains the heightened scrutiny on athletes today compared to pre-social media eras.
  • Ochocinco (14:28): “You have to have thick skin, especially to be a great player in this era… You gotta take the jokes for what they are and pick yourself up.”
  • Sharpe (15:36): "Everybody that has a phone... is a former NFL, NBA, MLB player, their former coach... you can see their opinion show up in real time."

4. Life in the Spotlight: Fame, Privacy, and Money (15:36–23:38)

• Limitations of Fame: The hosts riff on how superstardom locks celebrities like Michael Jordan, LeBron, Jay-Z, and Taylor Swift out of normal life.
  • Sharpe (19:01): “They can't go to the mall... you gotta rent the whole theater, the whole skating rink.”
  • Ochocinco: Expresses how being grounded and approachable is central to him, even joking God wouldn’t bless him with MJ-level fame because “I’m gonna be at the McDonald’s drive-thru.”
• Money and Envy: Sharpe explains the unavoidable increase in enemies and scrutiny with extreme wealth, referencing the Biggie lyric: "More money, more problems."

5. Football Culture, Criticism, and Generational Disconnects (24:48–32:50)

• Athletes’ Loss of Privacy: Both reflect on how sharing and leaks are now common due to technology and social media.

• Team Dynamics and Leadership: Within a team’s “family,” Sharpe stresses keeping internal issues private to control narratives.

  • Notable Quote (32:02): Sharpe: “'Til the lions have thumbs, every hunter will be glorified. He write the story.”
    (Ochocinco, in response: “That’s a bar! I’m going to use that in my next argument.”)

6. Cleveland Browns’ Quarterback Situation (33:11–34:48)

• The Browns are paying for eight different quarterbacks, highlighting the instability of the position; speculation about Deshaun Watson’s future.

7. Life, Longevity & Reflections on Legacy (34:51–38:09)

• Sister Jean’s Passing: Brief tribute to the beloved Loyola Chicago basketball chaplain at 106.
• Hosts’ Bucket List: Both reflect on aging—Sharpe wants to live long "only if I’m healthy and in my right mind."

8. NFL Trade Updates: Joe Flacco to the Bengals (38:39–40:47)

• Ochocinco is cautiously optimistic, thinks Flacco could post strong numbers with Bengals' weapons, but offensive line issues could hamper success.
  • Ochocinco: “You do what you can to keep Joe Flacco upright, because you know what he can do when he's able to throw.”

9. Michael Irvin’s Rant on Deion Sanders & NFL Evolution (40:47–49:23)

• Irvin Defends Deion: Responds to comparing today's WRs with those of "Prime's" era.
  • Sharpe: Points out multiple Olympians played WR in Deion’s era, so "speed" is not new in the NFL.
  • Sharpe (44:01): “Time is a player that could have played in any era because he was so extraordinary.”
• Generational Change: Diet, technology, and training have improved, but past legends would have been even better with modern resources.

10. Competitor Mindset & Bucket Lists (47:15–49:23)

• Ochocinco’s 2005 Checklist: Admits to "arrogant" but effective motivation, listing top DBs to prove himself each week.
• Overlapping Eras: Both agree on respecting NFL legends without minimizing current or previous generations.

11. Q&A & Lighter Banter (49:23–73:17)

• Audience Questions: Include Eagles’ struggles, top 10 all-time NBA players, if Kobe belongs in that group, and more.
  • Sharpe: Outlines his basketball top 10, debates criteria.
• Music & Culture: Jodeci vs. Jagged Edge, fried fish vs. chicken, and flag football plans in London.
• Random Musings: Fine money, eating habits, and playful jabs about paying back debts.

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Memorable Quotes

• Shannon Sharpe (01:15):
  “There are not six quarterbacks playing the quarterback position better than Baker Mayfield. That is a lie. I don't care what your fan base is.”
• Ochocinco (06:10):
  “If you know your history, history of the game, you know… there’s no way as soon as he said your name have been first [on the 7th-round picks list].”
• Sharpe (15:36):
  "Everybody that has a phone and have a social media account... you can see their opinion show up in real time."
• Ochocinco (14:28):
  “You have to have thick skin, especially to be a player in this era…. You become a meme…. You gotta laugh at yourself and pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and just go again.”
• Sharpe (32:02):
  “'Til the lions have thumbs, every hunter will be glorified. He write the story.”
• Michael Irvin Audio (41:15):
  “You think Tyreek Hill can outrun an Olympian like Bullet Bob Hayes? …We had pain in our game, and y'all don't even know shit about pain.”
• Ochocinco on Checklist (48:04):
  “I went through that 2005 season understanding—there's nobody that's gonna stop nothing I do because of the work I put in.”

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Notable Timestamps

• 00:00–05:20: NFL QB ranking debate; Mayfield & Jones should be higher.
• 05:42: Debo Samuel's viral “blind ranking” of 7th-round picks.
• 11:06–15:36: Chris Jones’ game lapse; athlete scrutiny.
• 15:36–23:38: Fame, accessibility, money, and envy.
• 32:02: "Til the lions have thumbs…” quote and discussion.
• 33:11–34:48: Browns’ QB roster/payroll analysis.
• 34:51: Tribute to Sister Jean’s passing.
• 38:39–40:47: Joe Flacco joins the Bengals.
• 40:47–49:23: Michael Irvin rants on comparing Prime to modern WRs; discussion about NFL eras.
• 49:23–73:17: Q&A on the NBA, music, favorite foods, and ongoing playful banter.

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Tone and Style

• Direct, Candid, and Playful: The conversation blends sharp insight with friendly ribbing. Both hosts’ personalities shine, through cultural references, nostalgia, and real talk about football and life.
• Audience Engaged: Live chat questions and direct shout-outs to fans keep things lively and interactive.
• No Holds Barred: The hosts don’t shy from calling out bad takes—either from fans, the media (Sports Illustrated), or even themselves.

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For New Listeners

If you missed the episode, you’ll come away with:

• Hot takes on QB rankings, especially Baker Mayfield’s “disrespect”
• Insider talk about athlete scrutiny in the age of social media
• Humorous, genuine reflections on fame and its pitfalls
• Deep respect for NFL history—plus some epic Michael Irvin soundbites
• Unique insights into the mindset of elite competitors
• A dose of culture, nostalgia, and quick-witted humor from two NFL greats

Whether you’re tuning in for football analysis, stories from the locker room, or just a good laugh, this episode serves up all three—Club Shay Shay style.

Transcript

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho. After five weeks, Sports Illustrated has dropped their NFL quarterback ranking. Here they are. Josh Allen is number one. Patrick Mahomes is number two. I'm only going to do the top ten. Matthew Stafford is three. Lamar Jackson is four. Jared Goff is five. Dak Prescott is six. Baker Mayfield is seven. Justin Herbert is eight. Jordan Love is nine. Drake May is ten. Okay, just for the sake of art, we'll go through 15. Jaden. Daniel Jones is 11. Jaden Daniels is 12th. Sam Donald is 13th. Jalen Hurts is 14th. C.J. stroud is 15th. Bo Nix is 20. Jake Browning is 30.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Can I be honest with you?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm not sure when they made that list, but Daniel Jones and Baker Mayfield belong somewhere near the top, along with Josh Allen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. If we're just talking about this year. But Baker Mayfield got to be in the top five.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Baker Mayfield and Josh Allen, whatever list this is and whatever it came out, if it's basically been done so far up into. Up. Up to this week in the season. Week five or week six, Whatever.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, for sure.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Daniel Jones and Baker Mayfield deserve to be on the top of that somewhere. Sam Darnold needs to be in there as well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. If we just. If we're just baking it on this week.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm not so sure that Baker Mayfield shouldn't be wondering. We're not. Look, we're not talking about. Look, we understand what Josh Allen has done. We understand Patrick Mahomes has done. We understand what Matthew Stafford has done, and we know the MVPs that Lamar has done. But if we're talking. If we're basing it on the first five weeks of this season, they have enough. Those guys have not played Baker Mayfield. I'm sorry. And y' all know how I feel about Patrick Mahomes, and I love everybody that they got ranked, but they have not played. There are not six quarterbacks playing better than Baker Mayfield. That is a lie. I don't care what your fan base is. I don't care if you're a Bill. I don't care if you're a Chiefs. I don't care if you're the Rams. You, Baltimore. There are not seven, six quarterbacks playing the quarterback position better than Baker Mayfield. They're not.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hell. Or. Or Daniel Jones, for. For that matter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, they're not.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He's a surprise. I didn't know. I. I mean, I could be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm one of them.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I was a culprit, you know, who felt he wasn't going to succeed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I Just thought he wasn't. Based on what we saw from him in New York and for him to come to Indy and do what he's doing, I'm like, man, what in the world he done flipped the whole script in the AFC side. Neil, he's playing phenomenal football, man. So I, I want to be the first to say I apologize and I was wrong.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I told you go start. You ain't pay one. The, the guy that, the incumbent guy, the incumbent starter, which is Richardson, is making 4 or 5 million. They bring a backup in making 14 million and you think the guy that's making 14 million gonna be on the bench.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That wasn't like, that's not happening. OO with the game that you just watched, do you think Jalen Hurst is ranked appropriate at 14? Oh, if you. We're, listen, we're not talk. He won the Super Bowl. He's super bowl mvp. Based on what you've seen through the first five weeks of the season, has he played better than Sam Darnold, Daniel Jones, Drake May, Jordan Love? Has he played better than those guys?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Glad you put it that way. I'm glad you put it that way. If anything, you know what? He's appropriately ranked. He's appropriately ranked based on what they ask of him to do offensively, what they ask him to do offensively. Where the, the numbers are not going to be like any of those guys. That's, that's ahead of him. So what he's asked to do, he is appropriately ranked right where he is, if that makes sense.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All I know is they're not sick, they're not six quarterbacks that's currently playing the quarterback position better than Shake and Bake. They're just not what you call him, Shake and Bake. They're not. Look, and look, we know Patrick Mahomes is the most accomplished, you know, three Super bowl, three Super Bowl MVPs. You know, he's been in the Super bowl five times. He's been in the AFC Championship every year that he's been a starter. He's never not been in the NFC AFC Championship game. We get all that. Lamar, the two time league mvp, Josh Allen is a one time league mvp. Matthew Stafford led a team to the Super Bowl. I get all of that and kudos. Those guys accomplish that and you can't take that away from them. But I'm sorry, those guys are not playing the position better than Baker Mayfield is playing the position. It's just that simple. That ain't got nothing to do with what he might do moving forward. They said the first five weeks. This is after five weeks. Sports Illustrated dropped their quarterback ranking, so they're saying after five weeks of this year, 2025, nothing that happened. 2024, going back, nothing that's going to happen. Week six, moving forward. They said the first five weeks of this season, Baker Mayfield's played better than everybody.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. And he has.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And his record is just. They only lost one game. Josh Allen lost one game. Patrick Holmes, I think, I don't know what they. LaMar Jackson is 1 and 4. Matthew Stafford, I think they've lost two games. Jerry Gford lost the game. Dak, I think they're 2, 2 and 1. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What about what? The Colts lost one, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Colts lost one. Yes. Yeah. So that's why. That's where I'm at. Ocho. There's a. There's a video going viral tonight that the staff wants us to react live to. Here's Debo Samuels asking his rookie running back teammate Jaquori Crosky Merritt to blind rank seventh round draft picks. Let's take a look at this video.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Got plenty of NFL greats that was drafted in the seventh round.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna have you blind rank.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All right. Shannon Sharpe, 4. Julian Edelman, 2. Bo Jackson, 1. Ryan Fitzpatrick, 3. Brock Purdy, 5. He say Shannon Sharp, 4.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Off the mark. What? You would have put him at three?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I should have said three. I might be minimum.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Minimum three.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Now that your list is over, is any name on here that you would exchange? Nah, I'll probably keep it like that. Yeah. Who you think has changed on that? He don't know Shannon Sharp. So he said Shannon Sharp should be up higher. He said minimum be three. Ah, he should be about two.

[Shador Sanders]

For real.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But you know, you, you young bug, you don't know too much. Bill Young, huh? You heard me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on. Are you based it on what could have been or what actually was? Because of all those guys on the list, only one got a gold jacket.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You on. You didn't hear what I just said, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What I mean, yeah, Bill don't know, huh? If he knew, he just. He knows the name Shannon Sharp based on the show, based on what you've seen on tv. But he doesn't understand the game, what comes behind. And with that name, he didn't know because there's no way as soon as he said your name have been first.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But Ojo, even when I came in the league. When you came in the league at 24. At 20, I mean, well, hell, I had been elite three years at 24. But I'm so, bro, I'm just like. Do you not know anything? I mean, do you like football? Did you not follow the game of football?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He's a young oo he 24. Nah, that 24 don't mean you followed the game back then. You don't do that. Everybody, everybody, all, all of them not like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, I was like that, man. Got fist magic in front of me. I like, damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, man. Hey, you know, matter of fact, you know, Fitzpatrick got here too matter. He did the, didn't he do the game tonight?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I, I, I don't know. I don't, I didn't see. I didn't see. I don't, man, I don't watch the pre. I don't watch half. That's my time to go. Take the dogs out. Let them handle their business. Get anything, you know, Take the trash out because the trash is coming. Collect the trash tomorrow. That's my time to do all that. I don't watch nothing. When I, when I, when I turn the team, when I watch the tv, when I turn the TV on. No show to watch a Thursday night game. They're kicking the ball off.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, okay, I got you, I got you. I mean, just. It's so funny, you know, I've been playing a flag football game tomorrow where, where I won't embarrass us. I will, I will, will put on for nightcap to make sure we have something to talk about. I should have scored maybe five, five, six, seven touchdowns, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, for the flag football?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm playing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How many go?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Probably five, eight. Five to eight. Five, eight. Because, you know, I don't get the opportunity. This is my, this is my Super Bowl. This is basically my Super Bowl. I always talk about do things I've never done before, and so I have to pretend like I'm back in the league and I might be auditioning for another job next year. You never know. You never know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Another job doing what?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Make. Get an opportunity to play in the league again. Fitzpatrick is the quarterback on another team. That's why I said that. I wonder if he.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who, who is your quarterback?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Diana, Diana, hold on, hold on. I'm gonna tell you right now. I just had it right here in front.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Of.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

She, she's really good flag football player.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, okay. So she, she plays flag football.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Diana Flores.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay, okay, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Destroying, you know, destroying. Destroying was on my team. And speedy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh yeah, yeah. He used to be the guy. He was a kicker for Central Florida, right? Yeah, he got, yeah, he produced a lot of content. Yeah, I got, I got it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

As a matter of fact, you know what? Hey, you know, like, you watch mma? Of course you watch mma. Yeah, yeah. Michael Venom Page is on the other team.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm thinking about, like before I beat James Harrison ass. I'm thinking about a tune up with Michael Venom Page. What you think?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I think that'll be good.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. So lump him up first and then.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. With Debo. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

How you think that's gonna go?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not good for. That's, that's how I think it's gonna go. That's, that's, that's how I think it's gonna go. But no, if, if you say seventh round draft picks, if you want to say what could have been, who's the best athlete? Well, that's both Bo gonna win it. But they said, who's the best seventh round athlete? I mean, the best seventh round NFL player of the group that he listed. Now, there might be somebody that's in the seventh round, but boy, yeah, I don't know. I like my, I like my chances. Yeah, I like wild position.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I like him too. If you know your history, history of the game and you know, you, your young pup. He's a young pup. He's a young pup and doesn't understand.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He has Debo talking about, where should I have it ranked? Well, Debo should have said, well, if you don't know where you should have a rank, I can't help you. Yeah, I can't help you. I don't know. Like I said, I don't know a whole lot of seventh rounders that's in the hall. Brady's in the six. Brady's gonna be. And I, like I said, I don't know, but it ain't very many seventh rounders that's come in the NFL that's had a better career than what I had. I'm not saying, like I said, I don't know all of Emoto, but there ain't been many. Right. Because the draft used to be, you know, 20 rounds. So I'm sure there's, if you, if we go back to the 40s and 50s and 60s and 70s, you might find one. But it ain't many. It ain't Dan on that list. Ocho. Just days after his most embarrassing moment of the season, chief pass rusher Chris Jones addressed why he didn't give maximum effort on the Jaguars game winning touchdown, Jones said, there's a teaching point for me, a little adversity I think I, I can't think. The play is over. It's a learning lesson. I thought it was over. I thought we had him down. So I kind of stopped and was about to celebrate. Then I realized he wasn't down. Chris Jones is one of the core leaders of the Chief. And to see him take a playoff in that situation doesn't seem real. Does sum up. But for me, I thought they were going to let him score. That's what I would have done. Oo that way, hey, let them score. Right now, I need maximum time. But I think it caught him off guard that they, they was passing the ball instead of running it. So I may, maybe, maybe C.J. and I'm. Like I said, this is me thinking for him.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because it's hard for me to believe that I saw it in real time. I'm like, Damn, C.J. but I, I thought that. And maybe they did think that they were going to run the ball. And I think they were a little surprised that the Chiefs passed the ball. But in a situation like that, you, you know, you can't assume he knows that. I mean, he, he knew that, but now he really knows that. And, you know, obviously Andy had to talk, Red had to talk to him. It's just not a good look. And he knows that. You're talking about one of the premier deep tackles, a three time super bowl champ, a multiple time all pro player. He's probably, he's more than likely going to be the all pro defensive tackle of the 2000 and twenties. Can't have that on your resume.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like you said, it's a, it's a teachable moment. I don't think I, I don't think we'll, we'll have that issue with C.J. again.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, listen, you think about how many 65 snaps. I'm not sure how many play on defense. Yeah, all of them. All of them aren't 100% effort. But you can't look like you did on that play.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

There's a microscope on you being who you are. Aaron Donald's no longer playing, so you are considered widely as the best defensive tackle in the game. So there's a camera always on you from every goddamn angle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're absolutely right. Jones also said his social media accounts weren't deactivated as an attempt to avoid criticism. Ocho, back in your day, we didn't really have to deal with social media 24. 7, the Twitter, you know, viral takes. Do you think Athletes in today's game face more criticism than they did in years past?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, absolutely. Absolutely. Because not only you have to deal with the media, you have to deal with the fans as well. Before the fans, the fans had no way of having access to you. You didn't have to see it. You just have to hear it, either on radio or on tv. Now you deal with much more. Way more criticism, and they critique you way more. When you don't play well or things don't happen or. Or you get hit hard or. Or you fumble the ball. You got to deal with it from everybody and all the social media. So you have to have thick skin, huh? You have to have thick skin, especially to be a player in this era. Especially to be a great player in this era. It has to go on one end, out the other. You have to be able to ignore it at times. You have to be able to laugh at yourself and laugh at your mistakes in order to continue to function, you know, at a high level in whatever respective craft it is you're doing. Just not football in general. You know, whether it be, you know, you're a rapper or you, You. You play. You play football, you play tennis, you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Everything is everywhere now. You know, you. You. You become a meme, and sometimes you got. You got to take. Take the jokes for what they are, and you have to laugh at yourself and pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and just go again.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, there's definitely. There's no question about it. Everybody that has a phone and have a social media account. Their former NFL, NBA, MLB player, their former coach.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Former general manager, their former va. So now everybody has an opinion, and you can see their opinion show up in real time. You're absolutely right, Ocho. With the media, you're not getting away with anything. There was a time that the media would see a player doing something right, and it would never make the news. It would never make the papers. That ain't happening now. No, it's not happening. If they see you do something, it's getting reported because everybody wants to be first. Everybody wants to break the story. There's like, it's gonna get out anyway, right? So let me be the first to get it. So there is no longer that. That bond that used to be between the great players and. And the reporters, what is. Yeah, that's over.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's long.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's over. And now everybody has a camera. So you can't do. Even if you wanted to get away with something, for the most part, it's hard to get away with stuff now, Right? Because just think about it. Jordan going out the night before and playing. And playing and gambling. Well, that was gonna be on somebody. Look at Michael Jordan before he played the Knicks. That's Michael Jordan at the blackjack table, y'. All. What's going on?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Cameras everywhere, too, now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everywhere.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The funny thing, knowing Jordan and how he was, his mannerisms, his Persona in general, man, he wouldn't give to. You know what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, absolutely. Why you think you don't see his ass out now?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, he really can't be out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He couldn't be out. Jordan hadn't been able. Jordan hadn't been able to be Mike Jordan since he was at unc. Yeah. The moment he hit the league, it was a wrap and did that, it was over, Right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And Willie. And when he got those red and black shoes, it was Good Night, Irene. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It was a rap.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was a rap.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Think about it, Ocho. He could. He's really Michael Jackson. They really never been able to enjoy. I mean, you got to rip the whole movie theater. You want to go out to a movie, you got to rent the whole theater out. You want to take this kid skate, you got to win the whole. The whole skating rink out.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I couldn't live like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It would be hard. Everything. Everything is on. Everything is. Everything is on a microscope. Just imagine how everything. How everything looks so big on the microscope. That's how you look in the public eyes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Now, that I don't mind. I don't care. I don't care about the microscope because what you see is what you get. What you see is what you get. I don't. I don't play a character. This is just me. But the whole. Not being able to go anywhere. I'm too sociable. I love conversing with people. I love. I love seeing people and. And hugging in. And saying, you wouldn't be that way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you was that boy. You can't be. Boy, you couldn't be like that with that kind of money. Boy. People to get you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, oh, you talk about the money. The money wise. Okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. What person, you know, that popular don't have money?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. I. I got money now. What you saying?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not like that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They buddy chop your head off.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. I got a question.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What can Michael Jordan and LeBron do that I can't do?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Go to the mall. They can't do that. We just talked about it, man. What you can't do, you can't go. You. You mean You. You. But that's what you have to be able to do. If you're a Jay Z, where Jay Z gonna go? Where Beyonce gonna go? What Taylor Swift gonna go? You think Taylor Swift could call up her girlfriend? Girl, let's go to the mall. Girl, let's go get us a drink.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Where they going? Yeah. I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. I'm. I'm one of the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm. I've always been accessible. I don't care how big I get. Which is probably why God would never bless me with that type of. With that type of wealth, because he know damn well I'm gonna be at the mall. He know damn well I'm gonna be at the McDonald's drive through. He knows. Well, I'm gonna be at every soccer game I can get to. It's not happening. You know damn well I'm gonna still be on my grandma porch in Liberty City and have everybody driving around to see if I'm sitting out there. I'm not. I. I can't. I can't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, you might be. You might be out there, but you're gonna have security, and then you're gonna be up in the box. You ain't gonna be in the. You ain't gonna be in the stands.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It ain't the same when you. When you go to a sporting event.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Especially, you're not the same. You look at that through the prism that you're the same. You're not the same. You can still have some of the same friends and y'. All, but they come to you, right? They go someplace, they take the whole island over. You see, most of the time, you see. Where do you see them at on the yacht, when you see Jay Z, how many security you see with him? How many in that detail, that security detail, when you see Mike.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's. That's. That's your life now, Ocho. That is your life. It's private jets. It ain't no more spirit. It ain't no more in the airports. It's not anymore that. Whoa.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So you're telling me if I reach that type of wealth, I can't fly spirit no more?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're not flying. That. That sounds good, but you're not flying that. You're not gonna be worth a billion dollars, $5 billion, 10 billion, $30 billion. And fly that. You're not. That's just like. You don't buy the same. You buy chrome heart.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you. You see what you spend your money on And I guarantee you when you were younger, you, like, ain't no way I spent this much money for a car.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Wait a minute. I, I didn't buy chrome hearts. That was a gift for my baby.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You. Hey, so everything that you got is a gift from your baby? The watches, that jewelry, that Cuban, the house. You got all that gifts?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, no, no, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Exactly. You see? You see how you move accordingly to the, the resources. So just imagine I gave you two. You were $2 billion right now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, okay, let's, let's reset. Let's. This hypothetically speaking.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, you were 2 billion.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. So tell me what you think I'm not gonna do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're not walking. You're not walking in. You cannot walk into a regular airport. You're gonna fly private because you have the kind of means to fly private. And because you're not gonna run, Ocho, you're not gonna run the risk. You're a high value target.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I know why you think everybody is your friend. When you get that kind of money, you build up a lot of enemies also.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn. I got. Hey, you think I got enemies right now?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got hell yeah. Absolutely. And the more money you get, the more, the more you get, the more dissension, dislike, jealousy, envy. But, But I'm along with it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm a likable person. You could ask anybody in the world.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What Biggie say, More money, more problems. He didn't say mo. He didn't say more money, more friends, more money, more problems. Right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

About that, you. Right. But I just don't understand how anybody could not like me like. Well, I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I want you to get a billion. That's the only way I'm gonna get my 5,900 back.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's the only way I'm getting my 5,900 back. If you get a billion.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Not really. I get to you now. But I told you, as long as I owe you, you'll never go broke. Well, I, I, I just see, it's, it's better, it's better suited in my hands as opposed to yours.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you draw an interest on my money?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ain't drawing interest on your money. But I just got your best interest. You see how that works?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I can show you that 5,900.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Man, I got you, I got you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got a few bills I need to pay. What you need to pay ain't none of 5,900, though.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I can loan you something if you need it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you go so you, you owe Me. But you willing to loan me money? You gonna loan me my money, Chad? How that makes sense, Chad? This man just told me he owe me money, but he gonna loan me my money.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Listen, I ain't gonna loan you the money. I would. I owe you. I'm gonna loan you some money.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you will? You will pay me and then loan me extra? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah, no, I'm good. Yeah, but I, I think I. Look, I, I think, I think everybody, I think everybody in our chat understands the level of scrutiny that these athletes face today. The older athletes didn't have to. Didn't have to worry about that. They didn't have to worry about that. They didn't have to worry about their business being. Because if somebody want to tell your business, where were they going? Oh, oh, he had. Recording somebody's phone call. You having somebody having cameras, you know, coming in and out.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm seeing a lot of that lately. I'm seeing a lot of it later. Not, not sports related in general, but I thought that was a federal offense. I thought that was a felony. And, and recording someone.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It all depends on what state you're in.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

California. Yeah. They tell you, they tear you up with that. You can't record now a call you and someone's. Now you have no, no, no, no leg to stand on in a public setting for privacy. You can't be at the park until my man don't feel me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't be in the airport talking about. Don't film me. You do have a level of privacy in your own home.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You do have a level. Like some states, it only matters the person that's taping you recording, you know that that's happening. Other than that. So it all depends on the state. It varies from state to state. But this level of criticism and scrutiny that guys, Serena and the women's athletes and the men athletes today. Yeah, it's not even, it's not even close. Even Mike said it. Mike said he don't know how he would be able to function with this social media. No, Shador Sanders says he's excited for other rookies who have played and been playing through them. Let's take a listen to what Shador had to say.

[Shador Sanders]

Any anytime players, you know, that I came in with and I spent a lot of time with, they. They get moved up and they able to have a vital role in this offense and this piece, I get extremely excited for and I'm, you know, I'm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm playing through them.

[Shador Sanders]

You know what I mean, I'm excited just as them every time they get out there and run around and everything, because it's just amazing that, you know, you start somewhere and then you able to evolve and get to a different level and go out there and actually execute it. Just like Dylan, like whenever he got moved up to QB1, I'm like, you know, that's lit, bro. You gotta make sure you handle everything the right way and, you know, just continue being him. So, like, for me overall, I'm just happy. I'm excited that everybody is living their dreams, you know, and I'm living my dream also. Come every day and be able to work.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's dope.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's dope. That's dope. Because I, I got that same feeling. I got that same feeling in general. Now the circumstances are a little different. I was the second round pick, you know, you know, I, I went in and TJ was there. We were both rookies and, and, and watching TJ get his shine because he learned some of the things a little bit before me, so he got an opportunity to get in there and do some things a little different. You know, it might not have been the game, but just seeing practice and I was excited, I was living vicariously through him because, oh my goodness, we made it to the league. We done left Oregon State and boy, you out there shining. Boy, you just beat the starting db, so I'm hyped. So to see him get the opportunity to be in there and just, just get his feet wet with the ones was awesome for me. And it took me a little longer to get myself in a groove before I got my opportunity with the ones. You know, it's especially in practice before I saw the light of day in an actual game. So I, I, I get exactly where he's coming from. So to go, to go to war, to be in meetings, to see all the work you put in turn into fruition, live on game days at 1 o' clock is a wonderful sight to see. And it's easy to be happy for someone, especially a competitor that you compete with for a starting spot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that. But you know, he worked out with Cam Ward, so he has a relationship and you know, the banter that they had going back and forth. So I'm sure he's extremely excited Dylan is there. Although they played the same position, they're like, hey bro, you get an opportunity to go in to do your thing. Yeah, you know, you root, you know, you root for you guys that, you know, I want to see you do well, I don't want to see you fail. I don't, I don't want anything to happen to Dylan. But if I have to go in there, if that's how I got my start, that's how I got my start. Right. And I just love his attitude. I just love the way that, hey, I get to live my dream. I still get to come to work. Hey, as long, as long as they tell me I got a helmet.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I get to put some cleats on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My key work, as long as I can punch my code in at that gate and it slide open, I'm good. Yeah, I'm good. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. He wants to start, he wants to play. Who doesn't want to?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's any competitor, Uncle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that's what you should do. You don't want to play.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You shouldn't be playing at the highest level in general.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, at first, Ocho, like, man, I made the team. I'm in the NFL. Yeah, but then you started looking around, you're like, hold on, man, I ain't never sat the bench.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, man, I'm playing special teams.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm taking all the refs that the starters don't want to take.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Basically. Basically.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ah, nah, hell no. This gotta change. And so, but I, I, I, like I said, I'm excited, I'm happy for him. Yeah. That he understands that. Look, it's not going the way I envisioned it. I thought I was good. I, look, started with the draft for me, Ocho, once the draft happened the way it happened for him, it happened to me the same way. I was like, man, ain't nothing. Hey, ain't no Gibbons. Now, where I thought I was going to get drafted, how I thought I was going to get drafted. So what makes me think now that I got drafted in seventh round, I'm gonna go to a team and I'm gonna be able to play right away.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All right, listen, you understand the game. You saw the game they were playing at the draft. So you understand the game that they're playing now. Nothing has changed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nope.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nothing has changed. But what they are waiting on you to do. They waiting on you to fold.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're waiting on you to say something crazy and then they're gonna talk about, See, that's why. That's why. Because they usually know what, you know, he said, you know, he didn't want to go to the Baltimore and see it and blah, blah, blah. See, that's why who you should look, everybody look for me, you, Ocho, we happy. I don't care where I went. I just wanted to get somebody draft me, give me an opportunity to play. I don't care if they had 12 tight ends. I don't care if they have 15 receivers. Guess what? They got 16 now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And that's the. That's the way. But that's him. We. You know, I have for the longest time, Ocho, I was like, man, I wouldn't have did it like that, Right? Somebody wouldn't have did it how I did it. So all I know is, like, what I. When I speak, I'm talking about, like, when it comes to winning and trying to keep the locker room together, right? There's certain things that we family, and we family. There's like, man, I ain't. I ain't know. He like his brother. I ain't know. His daddy talk. Yeah. Cause that's family. They keep it in house. I look at us, the football team, as a family. Whatever dissension that we have, Ocho, whatever. Whatever we have going on, right, let's keep it in house. We can get. We can work it out.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And that way, we can control the narrative. We can control the story. Once they get out, Ocho, they're gonna write what they want to write.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got the pin, Ocho. They tell me, until the lions have thumbs, every. Every hunter will be glorified. He write the story.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Until the. Until the lions have thumbs, every hunter. Boy, that's a bar. Hey, that's a. Hey, Ain't got no penny pad in this goddamn hotel here in goddamn London. What? Until the line have thumbs and. Wait. Yes, they do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Stop.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Stop playing. Right. Well, that's a good one. Now I remember, too. Until the line has thumbs up, the hunter will always write the story.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The hunter will always be glorified. Oh, glorified.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because he's actually writing the story.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Boy, I'm gonna use that in my next argument. Hey, listen, it probably had nothing to do with the situation, but when I use it, if I can just get it to think for a minute and stop, that mean I won.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Ocho. The Brian Browns are currently play paying 8 QBs. They're playing paying DeSean Watson 35.9 million. They're paying James Winston 2.2 million. Dylan Gabriel 1.1 million. Joe Flacco, 999,000. Shador Sanders, 955,000. Bailey Zappy, 315,000. Dorian Thompson Robinson, 171,000. Kenny Pickett. They paid him out the front pocket. 8,000.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, listen, that's. That's light. That's light. That's light. The only. The only thing on there that that kind of, kind of, kind of would hurt is DeShawn not being able to be out there and. And play and contribute, making that. That kind of money. Think things didn't go well? I'm curious to see what's going to happen next year when he is healthy and he's able to come back and contribute. What happened to that. That starting job? I'm sure because his salary is so high and he commands so much of that damn. What do you call it? Salary. I think he might be the starter next year, you know, especially if he's healthy. I just. That's. 35. 35.

[Shannon Sharpe]

36 million. 35.9.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, boy, Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We got some breaking news. University of Chicago has announced that sister Jean Dolores Schmidt has passed away at the age of 106. March Madness. Never gonna be the same, you know, every year when the team make it, you know, she was there in a wheelchair, Jean, and, boy, that's a life.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that is a life.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, 106. But that's a blessing, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Do you know how much you've seen over a lifetime to live a hundred years? A hundred? Man, Would you. Would you want to live that long, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Only if I'm healthy and I'm in my right mind. I don't want to be a burden to no one if I become a burden. No.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right, right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I don't want to be a burden.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know what I would love? I would love because of what I know now and as amazed that I am, it's society and in the era of technology and as advanced as it is, I would love to see what it's like 50, 60 years from now. I would love to be here. Maybe I'm also, with my health and being in the right state of mind, I would love that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

If I'm a burden, my kids promised me, don't put me in a home. Don't you put me in a home. And I know. I know my kids. Some of my kids might be watching right now. Y' all put your dad in the home. I tell you what, I'm gonna come down. I'm come down here. I'm haunt you. I'm haunt you as a ghost.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't. I don't want to be. You know, I don't want to be hooked up to no machines. Let me go. Hey, your dad. Hey, your dad had a great life. Your Brother, you know, they, they. I've already given everybody instructions so they know what to do. But no, I don't want to be. I don't want to be a burden.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I never want to be a burden. And I want my kids to. To live their life and not have to worry about dad and can't live their life. Your dad lived his life. Y' all know what to do. You. You've been instructed. You know what to do. Yeah, but I want to live as long as I could. I can do for myself, Ocho. I'm in my right mind.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I'm not a burden.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. I like it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like it. I don't, I don't. I don't do good as a burden. I don't. I'm irritable, so I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I just am. I'm not a guy that does well hurt when I'm injured and stuff like that. I don't do well. That's why, man, Ocho, I had surgery on my hip.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got to. That morning. I got home at 1:32 o'. Clock. I was in the driveway walking with my walker. I just.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hold on. Doing everything you not supposed to be doing, basically.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I got a, I got an A. I'm gonna, I'm gonna get. I'm gonna, I'm gonna speed up this recovery time. That's what I'm gonna do. I'm not gonna be dependent. I hate depending on people. Ojo. Right. Especially, you know, like, I understand, but I don't. I don't want to be a bird. I don't like. Well, can you do this for me? I, I hate that. I hate it. So. I don't know. But no, I don. So.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, that's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Long as I got my right mind on, show everybody that my grandmothers, all my grand. My grandparents, he had all their right minds. My grandma was 80, 89 years of age, and she had a right mind. And one of my. My great grandma was 92. She had a right mind. So as long as I'm in my right mind and I'm not a bird. No, Joe. And I can. I, I can do for myself. Yes, sir. She wanna. She wanna. Wanna hold on. But the moment that happens.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That'S it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jamar Chase gives the first comments about the Bengals acquiring veteran quarterback Joe Flacco. When asked how he learned about the trade, Chase T. Higgins initially told him and Zach Taylor confirmed the news. Jamar says he appreciates the organization trying to make this work amid a trying season. Oo With Flacco finally getting a chance to work with elite weapons, what do you see for the Bengals?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, what I see for the Bengals with now Flacco getting elite weapons, weapons he's never had before. And I look at some of the numbers. I look at some of the numbers today based on some of the games that Flacco has played throughout his career, and he's never thrown anything like this. I. I say. I say Flacco might throw for 400. Who they play? Packers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How you gonna throw for a whole hundred? He gonna have no time again.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You heard what I said. Because the strength of the packers defense is up front. I do understand that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The weakness of your office is up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Up front, but that back end is vulnerable. It's vulnerable now. Yeah, I think I'm just all honesty, honestly. I don't know what to expect. I don't know what to expect because I saw it up close in person, obviously, with Jake Browning and him running for his life, where that officer line he had to deal with playing, playing against Aiden Hutchinson and those young fellas, hoping, hoping, pride in itself, playing for the name on the back of that jersey. There's a. There's a. There's a better showing. There's a better showing from. From us up front and having some type of pride about yourself and your game because that shit you putting out is on film. And people get to see that. You know, you do what you can to keep goddamn Joe Flacco upright. Because you know what? You can know what you. You know what he can do when he's able to have time and throw the ball. And if we're going to have a chance offensively to even compete. Forget talk about winning. Compete week to week. We got to be able to block.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm playing. I'm playing 22, man for two seconds.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm playing 22, man. Cause I ain't worried about Flacco going nowhere. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, that's true.

[Shannon Sharpe]

O show the rant everyone has been talking about. Micah Irving went off on Facts Over Feelings podcast for saying Deion Sanders wouldn't be able to cover these current NFL receivers. Ocho, let's take a listen to what they had to say from back then. Might not be prime, though. These guys that he played against want that fast, bro. They were stronger, but they weren't that fast, These guys. Now, I love to see him. I would have loved to see him play against Chad in his prime. I would have loved to see him.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, no, he covered me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jefferson, right now, today, you know all these different guys. I would love to see him cover Tyreek. If prime is who we think he is. Are you? Yeah, King me. We are the two most accomplished receivers in the history of this game. When you're talking about the most important things, championships and your stupid ass talking about running fast. Like people weren't running fast back then. Are you shitting me? What the hell are you talking about? I don't even know your name, and I certainly don't know your game. I don't see you every year with a gold jacket in that hall of Fame room. So who the are you to talk about what? Oh, oh, oh, oh. Deion Sanders couldn't cover these guys today. Do you really know what you talking about? You think there were not fast guys in the league with. When I play. You think. You think Tyreek Hill can outrun an Olympian like Bullet Bob Hayes, who played before me? You get to run around and play seven on seven touch football. We had pain in our game, and y' all don't even know shit about pain. Football's not about running fast. It's not about speed. It's about getting the job done. It's about getting the job done. Done. Look. Hey, Herb.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Funny boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, look funny.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Irv gonna tell it like it is now. And obviously back then, I. I think back then, players were fast.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Players play well. Ron Brown got a gold medal. Sam Grady got a gold medal. James Jet got a gold medal. I want to know the current player that's currently playing right now that got a gold medal because all those guys. Sam Grady won the silver medal in the Olympics in 84 time. Played against him. Ron Brown was on the relay team. James Jett ran alternate leg in the qualifying on the 19 Barcelona team in the Olympics. Yeah. So I want to know which one of you guys think faster than Sam Grady, faster than Ron Brown, faster than James Jett.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm. Boy, we're moving, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He played. Y' all say Randy Moss was fast. He played against Randy Moss. Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And people. I don't think. Hey, hey. Well, see, I've seen. I saw it up close and personal. Well, that was different.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boy, Lord have mercy with those guys I'm talking about was in the league. Yes. Yeah. Yes. You have to realize there are certain players. Time is a player that could have played it in an era because he was so extraordinary.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, he was extraordinary, but he wasn't covering me, though. But go ahead. I hate you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have to understand, see, people just look at time and they say just speed, time. He studied a lot of things.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He gonna make you play to your weakness. He gonna play to his strengths and force you to your weakness. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Y' all need to go see the play. When Rocket Ismail, he picked off a deep post from Rocket Ismail, they threw.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It off his head, the one off.

[Shannon Sharpe]

His head and took it and put the ball up in the air.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Coming back the other way with it. Like I said, I. I think the thing is, look bad. These guys, they don't realize like Daryl Green, y' all do realize like Darryl Green, like they didn't keep track of 40 times like they do now. Ocho, that was way back then. The combine really didn't start kicking off until the late 80s.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's when the comeback. Cuz back then they had regional combines. Oo if you was in the south, you went to a combine in the south, you was in the west, you went to the combine in the west, you North. That's how it was. It wasn't. It wasn't centralized like it is now. But Daryl Green, you know, Daryl Green can win. Rod ran in the. Rod ran, tried to qualify for the Olympics. He ran against Greg Foster. Boy, look, look. And that's not a knock on these guys right here. Cause these guys are phenomenal and they're phenomenal. But you can't discount just because what you see and you didn't see guys back then and just try to summarily discount them. So I guess based on that, Reggie White couldn't play back. Couldn't play now. Lt couldn't play now. Derrick Thomas couldn't play now. Bruce Smith couldn't play now. So I'm trying to figure out who could play in that era. So I guess you know, John Elway and Dan Marino, those guys couldn't play in this era.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Listen, all those defensive ends you just named right now, Lauren Taylor probably won the last two weeks in this league. One lady won last two weeks for one. Either you ain't gonna have no check or you're gonna be suspended. One or the other one of.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he got bad. Oh, man, he got bad. He ought to. I promise you there was good football played. Granted, the athletes have gotten better, technology has gotten better, supplementation has gotten better. Diet has gotten better. Ocho training has gotten better. Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you got to think about what these guys were working with. So that means Deion Sanders was going to have the training, the nutrition, the supplementation that these guys have now. Yeah, he had none of that doing what he did Those guys that you see that I mentioned, Sam Grady and Ron Brown and James Jett, the, they're going to have the same nutrition, they're going to have the same coaching, they're going to have the same that these guys have now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, guys, that's, hey, that's a great hypothetical too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, that's. Why, why you think guys, why you think guys have gotten faster? Of course things change. Yeah, but if you give those guys the same nutrition, the same training, the same, hey, they got red light therapy and saunas. Ocho, they got dip tanks. They got all that stuff. They got all the, all the acupuncture and all that other things. How good do you think they could have been?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Much better. Much better.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn Rams linebacker Jared Verse said he be effing furious if Lamar Jackson isn't able to play Sunday. Ver said Lamar is on his sack bucket list along with Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. Oo. Which opponent did you both circle the calendar, look forward to facing during your time? Only one. Hey, I wanted to say I got a block on it. Either he beat me for a sack or I blocked him and he didn't make the tackle. Lt LT was hurt when we played him.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I, I, I think matter of fact, you remember, remember chat Chat, those of you who in the chat, you remember I made that checklist in 2005 before the season started. You remember that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I remember you making the checklist. I don't remember who was on it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I mean Champ and Fred Smoot and Gary. Just I, I remember doing that. So just that 2005 year, I made a checklist. I put it in my locker before the season started and I eliminated it obviously with the boxes. And you understand how arrogant and cocky this was of me, but I was just confident. I was confident in the work that I put in to be able to pull this off. So how you let somebody put your name in a locker and tell them you're not going to stop me? If you stop me one time, that's all they had to do, just stop me one time in the game you get a yes by your name. And I, I went through that 2000, I went through that 2005 season understanding there's nobody that's gonna stop nothing I do because of the work I put in. Not only in the film room and studying training, man, please. Preparing for that season, man, I went out there and acted a fool that 2005 season and we're checking everybody off. I think I might have lost. I can't remember. I Can't remember who I lost to. But Danny, that was. That was some very arrogant. Arrogant I did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But hey, this is. It's hard to overlap errors. Things were different.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Back then than there is now. Just. Just enjoy. All you gotta do is just enjoy what you're seeing. It's not because we don't know. It's easy to say we don't know. Oh, Joe, it's time. We're gonna get out of here on this one. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You said my final segment. Even evening. It's six in the morning.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, my bad. It's my final. It's my final segment for this evening. Your final segue in the morning.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Howard Bell say. I think it's fair to say Jackson Dart outplay Jalen tonight. I don't know. The Eagles offense just struggling. Ceriani might need to take over the play calling. Yeah, he outplayed him. You know, he made more plays with his legs. Made a big time throw. But hey, it happens. Question is, Eagles, do they bounce back? We'll see in 10 days, Ocho. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn. 10?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Cause they play Thursday, so they don't play till next Sunday.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, okay, okay. Oh, yeah, you're right. You're right, you're right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, Cool. Sharkey Eagle fans clown Cowboys for beating an 0 and 4 team. And Eagles immediately follow that by losing to a 1 and 4 team. But hey, it's one loss. He laughing. Yo, Dutch, to me, Steph shouldn't be in the top 10 before Kobe. So my question to you is, do you think Kobe belongs in the top 10? If so, who you taking out? Ralph Buff. Pats Nation. So hard. To some great players. Braun, Jordan, Karoon, Kareem, Magic.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They got room service.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Duncan, Wilt, Bird.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't play basketball.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I used to. I know. I scored 52 in high school.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's close, man. It's really close.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't understand.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because here's the thing. This is what. This is what I don't get half the time. When you say championships, they say championship is a team goal. So we disregard championships unless it's for a player that we like. And then we count championships, right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They always move the goal post.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Depending on who they do, they tell me, oh, oh, that's a team goal also. So what are we gonna. So what are we gonna use? So tell me the metric that we're using, right? Is it okay? Obviously, I think you ought to factor in everything you factor in championships, all NBA selections, all star selection, MVPs, finals MVPs, you know, things like that. I think there should be five metrics. You just can't say, well he won the most championships. Would then I'll be Bill Russell.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, points, where are you ranking points? Where do you ranking rebounds? What are you ranking? Assists? I think there are so many variables, but for me I think there are like seven guys. I think LeBron, Jordan, Kareem, Magic, Duncan, Wilt Bird. For me, I think they're like, they gotta be in the top 10. Now that last three, last three for me, probably come down to like four players. Elijah, Juan, Shaq, Kobe and Steph.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn. Damn, huh? And if, if you ask like avid basketball enthusiasts, they're top 10. I think your first five, six or seven will probably be the same as everybody else.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Maybe just a different order. But when it's all. But when it's all said and done, what we gonna do with Jokic? Oh, who you taking that's not done yet. Jokic get another mvp? I mean another Finals mvp. Another regular season.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, have a conversation, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, for sure. Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Greatest big man of all time or no?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, I mean for me, see, I don't think Kareem get the credit he deserved. It's hard because everybody always look overlooks Kareem.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean 19 all stars, six MVPs. Six, six. Three with the Bucks, three with the Lakers, six championships, 19 all star selections. I think he was like a 13 or 14 time all defensive selection. He once held the record most points for a career. See, people don't realize how good Kareem was when he was at Milwaukee and when he first got to la. Cause he kind of took a back seat when Magic came. But go back, look up Kareem stats back when he got with the Bucks and you tell me what you think. 33 and 16 for a season.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

A season?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he averaged 33 and 16 points. People just let me tell you why people discount Biggs. Because they say they need a guard to get them the ball. If you go back and look, most people tops are forwards and guards, right? Because we don't need nobody to get them the ball big. Like, well, if Magic didn't get Kareem a magical Oscar didn't get Kareem the ball. Well, if this guy didn't get Shaq the ball, or this guy didn't get this guy the ball, be it will or, or Mr. Russell.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

So that it normally goes to.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, understand. Okay, I got you I got you. I got you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho Oreo Hulum said free AJ Brown man shaking my head oh Jason Zeldorf and Dart we trust Dart is the man Shador who I love you Unc. But we coming for your Broncos. The bingo still suck. Oh, we play I guess we we play the we Giants play the the Broncos. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah we do because we got the we just played the Eagles. They got the Cowboys. Got. Got the Cowboys and the Giants. Yeah, he brought that up. Chad. Jody. Okay okay. Jody AKA Baby boy Cinco. Are the Eagles Saquon suffering from Madden cover curse or super bowl hangover? No, because I just don't think. I don't think Saquon getting 10 carries I mean 12 carries is going to help anything. Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No. Yeah Madden curse ain't got nothing to do with that at all. Nothing. And we we don't believe in superstition.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Player 4 Player 4 Player is hurt equals D cry she goes cry Boy them Cowboy fans Anthony spill say call Gilly the kid he was in his feelings cutting that live early Eddie Sal Gado let's go Big Blue stop playing with my Giants man. Watch out your Broncos next Hey I.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Got damn Jackson Dart and Scatterboat is exciting I'm about legit exciting for it to be this damn early.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Matt Tube University said Russell Wilson got booed soon as he put that helmet on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Really?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm not surprised. Yeah, I'm not surprised Ocho. Damn Ocho, you know how it is. Jackson daughters captured the Giants he they see hope in him. Yeah yeah. Bria Carter said I don't know which loss is worth the Phillies losing the bottom of the 11th on a three throwing error to end their season or the Eagles losing to a division rival in a blowout. The Phillies losing on that that way because your season's over Eagles got a Eagles get another chance to redeem themselves when when the Giants come to to what they call I forget the name of the stadium but the the Phillies it's over. Ray Cleave said Eagles offensive coordinator shouldn't even be allowed to ride the bus home. Damn. I guess y' all out on Petula, huh? Patrick Rendon said guys I'm not sure why Freedom pigeons always have a Super bowl hangover. Freedom man they call the Eagle pigeons. Ocho Dark definitely going to save Brian Dayball's job.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey he said he see hey Jackson Dart saving saving the ball's ass because he was on the hot seat bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

For sure Eagle Fan the second half implosion I was dreading John N3 3 oh 3417 I know you effort line Giants put belt to you know what tonight.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

CD Scale say, what's up Mr. Sharp. What is your favorite food to eat when training? I look forward to meeting you guys on the tour next year. I'm a huge fan, love. I'm chicken. If you tell me I can only eat one one protein for the rest of my life, it's gonna be chicken.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I could deal with that. Chicken or fish, I could do that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I don't like no fish. I mean I like fish Ocho, but fish ain't a food that you can warm up. Fish think your whole house up have your whole house people coming like man, what is that? What is that?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, especially if you leave it out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Fans New Jersey said NFL lol. Lose to the Saints four days later beat the Eagles. That's the NFL. Yeah. Cameron male as an Eagle fan is looking more like 2023 season just falling apart earlier in the season Independent Aquaman, Packers, Ravens, Bills Eagles are frauds in 2025 only the Lions are legit. Plus refs should penalize Eagles who for offensive procedure or and offsides. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wolf had facts. Cam and Jax won me 10k tonight. I got you. I got O's debt. Yeah. Break me out. Let me go and get that bro. Let me get that 59. Throw something. Throw something on the floor for me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Matter of fact, hey, while I'm out here in London today, today's my off day. So Friday I have all day free, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm casino. Not only am I going to win your money back, I'mma double it and I'm going see you. I'm going see you by 6, 5, 10, 16. 510 I brought I seen you 12,000.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Good looking my man Gerald LA said LA smoking Phillies, New York giants roasting pigeons Tiki technology Russell Wilson is fried died and laid to the side Fins New Jersey Meg the Stallion Scatty Addy Addy Addy Scat Pack. I got all these crazy names I can. I could just imagine Jackson Dart he keep this going. You already know what it's gonna be like Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Dagnante Cobbins Adversity is a stone used to sharpen your blade. We gonna be all right. In my crying Ocho voice Fly Eagles fly. Dave Ricks Jr. Said Uncle Nocho love what you do. Kept me laughing through many nights as a trucker he can you give my wife De Asia and my daughters a shout out and say I love them My Life is great because they're in it. Absolutely. Dave Ricks Jr. D', Asia, your husband, Dave Jr. He wanted to tell you that he loves you. He loves his wife and his daughters, and his life is better because you're in it. You completely.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So happy marriage. Continue.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Happy marriage.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Saucy D. Say, when Sha' Carri gets back to top form, do you think her and Melissa can have the same dominance Shelly Ann and Elaine had? Ooh, man, they dominated. Shelly ann won an 8 and 12. Elaine won a 16 and 21. That's a long time. They might be out of. They gotta. Oh, hold on. So 24, so. Excuse me. 28, 8, 12, 16, 20. That's a long time, bro. That's a long, long time. Shelly Ann. I mean, Shelly Ann is just the greatest woman sprinter ever. So the likelihood of we seeing somebody follow that up so soon, right? It's not likely. I'm not saying it can't happen, but, man, track and feel is so ocho. You know, one minute you hear, and the next minute you're like, damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know what I was excited about? Remember Marion Jones? Your camera done went out where you went. Okay. Hey, Chat. It's just me and you. Chat. Unc is having technical difficulties. That's okay. But if you see behind me, it's starting to be daylight. I'm out here in London. Make sure y' all tune in Saturday. Saturday. Go to my story on Instagrams. Go to my story. Make sure y' all tune in and watch. I should probably score maybe five, six, seven, maybe eight touchdowns. Nice little flag football game. Have a little fun. Then I'm going to the Bronco jets game on Sunday. I'm gonna sit. I'm gonna sit with my pops. My pops. I'm gonna sit with. With Goodell. You know, exchange some pleasantries. Being that we have such a good relationship, I'm probably going to ask him about, let me get all my fine money back. Being that everyone could celebrate now. And I think I. I started that. So since I started that, I think I should be able to. To. To recoup some of my fine money. Outside of that, that's. That's pretty much it. Chad, what time is it in the States? You don't know? Uncle, you back? Are we still not back yet, but yeah, Chad, that's it. Just make sure y' all tune in Saturday and that's pretty much it. Okay. And look at my Instagrams and it tell you what time you get to see me play football again. And it's can kind of remind you on how good I actually was because I'm gna be on full speed like this. For me, this is like a Super Bowl. So I'm auditioning for a chance.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yo, can you hear me?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Next year? Yeah. What's good? Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Jordan ain't charge the computer up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, okay. Okay. That's what happened.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I like it. I like it, I like it, I like it. Damn. It's only 10 o' clock out there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, here we go. Oh. True and infamous 73. I don't think it's the players offensively. Is there an OC Kevin Petula. He hadn't been able to figure out what to do with the talent he has. That might be the case. Well, then I guess Sirianni needs to take over the play calling. David Moses. Giants all day. New Jersey, baby. Super bowl, here we come. Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Super Bowl.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Saucy. One more question. I think Sydney can 100% do it, but I think it's going to be double 20. 28 would be a lot of running. 6, 400 meters. More than that. I mean. Yeah, you're right. Qualifying, semifinals, finals. I thought it's four rounds. Is it three rounds or four rounds?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You got it might be right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You might be. Yeah, that's a lot. But it all depends on how much space she has between and if I'm her. I want to get the most difficult one out the way first. I want to get the, the 400 meters out the way.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, how much, how much energy you exert?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you, you try to, you try to pace it, Ocho. You try to burn as little energy as possible. But Paulino, Nasser, that's. I mean, they're going to be there. Yeah, they're going to, they're going to be there. So I think next year if she does the ultimate championships, I think if I'm her, I try to lower that, that the 400 meter, the hurdles. I try to dip under 50. I think she's in. She, she, she's in. She's in condition. She has the. She can do it, right? Because you got to think about it. Ocho. She hadn't run 48. She's at 47. Ain't no question in my mind she can go under 49, she can go under 50. Put it out there like that Flojo record.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what I do. Nobody gonna get it no time soon. I mean, 1049. I mean, until what you call him. I mean, Elaine Thompson. Harold was the first woman to go sub 10 six other than so she went 10 54.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's still five tenths. Six tenths.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Do you know how fast that is?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I do know how fast that is for a woman. Absolutely. I know how fast that is. Platinum made these. Do you think AJ Trey talks happens next season if the Eagles keep collapsing this season and if it make it don't go far in the playoffs. Yeah, I can see look. Would I be surprised even if they went far in the playoffs, they don't do something about this? Probably. Probably. James Tilling has Shellen Dodgers feelings. Couldn't have ended in a more anticlimactic fashion. Was scared when pages hit right into the picture. Pressure, man, pressure. He could have easily.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Evergreen. Shouted Ocho. Lillian Emma made it to school with no issues. In fact, she seemed pumped. This a.m. i shout out. God bless you. Go Cloud boys. Well, we glad Emmy made it to school. Dr. Frank L. Bellamy. Okay guys, take your pick. Jodeci. Jagged Edge.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's a good one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm going Jodeci.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's a good one. I'm going Jose too. Boy, I like jacket edge.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I do too.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Notice he had an additional run.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can't see it. Joe Jameson, if Ocho gets into the hall, you get your. You get the jacket until he gives you the 5,900 plus. Let's call it 15 interest on top.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, hey, I can speed that one up. They not letting my black ass in no goddamn hole. That's why I got my own jacket.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't find it though. Oh, go ahead, put your hands on your coffee. Playing with your mud heels.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, that's what you. Hey, that's what you don't want. You know my hands registered, right? You heard me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So if I got something, I got some register too.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I'm just saying my hands are registered. These are lethal weapons because in order for me to box, you know, I had to get my hands registered. So once I once I put these hands on you, it's a lie. But I get locked up and we can't have no nightcap.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I got something registered too. Although, will you be at the Bronco alumni Week 7 vs. The Giants? Should be a good with Dre Greenlaw possibly back from ir. Shit, that's. That's next week, ain't it? Probably not. Bingo. Should have got Kirk Cousins. Stop being cheap. Man. This man. They want this man. They want the bingo to have a 55 million dollar quarterback on our and another 50. 40 million dollar quarterback they got a damn. Well, Mike Brown ain't gonna do that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We got the. The most. We got the best quarterback available at the right price.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Sir. Underscore case. My guys, I know it's football season, but if I have, I'd have to know your thoughts on Fred Van Fleet getting injured. Can KD and Sengun carry the rockets or do they need a reliable point guard? They need the point guard. They got Thompson. I like them. Look, somebody got to get them the ball. Somebody got to distribute the basketball. Yeah, we know what Shingoon is. We know what Katie is. And Amen. Thompson is amazing. I don't know. I don't know who. I don't even know who the backup park guard is for for them. Fletch, these days, if you do something, the media will have it in the paper before two something that is absolutely right or. And plus Ocho. You got to realize that TMZ people pay for stuff now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ring on McDonald's worker Kaylee Ringo is the newest McDonald's worker. Eli, can you imagine if Ocho play with Julio in Atlanta?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Kyber Sith, did the Broncos provide the league blueprint for them Philadelphia Smeagols? No. They'll fix it. They'll get it fixed, but they gotta throw the ball better than what they throwing at Ocho. Yeah, it's a throwing league. It's a throwing league because at the end of the day, you're gonna have to throw to make plays. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite unc, Shannon Sharp. That is my partner and co host. He's in London, Bingo's own ring of fame Pro Bowler All Pro. That's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you for your support. We know the voting is over with now, but we thank you for casting your votes for us for the Signal Awards. We don't know if we won yet, but even if we didn't, we still have your support. And that's more than a. That's more than any award. So thank you very much for your support and your continued support. Please make sure you check out Shave by laportier. If you can't find Shave by laportier in a city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. The best tasting premium beer, soup, cognac, on the market. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Please make sure you go check out my media company, Shay Shay Media, on all of his platforms and my clothing company. 84. With 84 pinned in the chat, the Eagles dominate. Excuse me. The Eagles got dominated by the Giants, 34 to 17. Scatterboat, 18 carries, 98 yards, three touchdowns. Jackson Dart was superb. He only threw for one touchdown. But he didn't have any turnover. No, he ran four touchdowns. Excuse me. They score four combined touchdowns, but he was sensational tonight. Boy, the Giants did a number on them. They lose to the Saints, but at home, put some on the Eagles. So oo. Have fun while you're over there. Watch them Broncos beat up on them Jets. I'm up. He's Ocho. See you Saturday night. Good morning.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Good morning.