Nightcap Hour 2: Steelers HIRE Mike McCarthy as HEAD COACH + Eagles SEARCHING for new Offensive Coordinator + Philip Rivers HEAVY FAVORITE to LAND as Bills Head Coach + Stefon Diggs FAIR TALE Season

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 2

Date: January 26, 2026
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (“Uncle Nocho”), Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Key Guests/Participants: Nav Green (briefly), NFL fans in live chat

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Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap Hour 2—Club Shay Shay’s lively NFL commentary hour—dives deep into NFL coaching changes, playoff drama, player comebacks, and the business (and heartbreak) of football. Shannon and Ocho go unfiltered on Steelers' controversial hire of Mike McCarthy, the Eagles’ search for an offensive coordinator, Philip Rivers’s shocking head coaching candidacy, and Stefon Diggs’s fairytale season. The episode is filled with passionate banter, candid takes, and signature humor, especially as they interact with their live chat.

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Major Discussion Points & Insights

1. Steelers Hire Mike McCarthy as Head Coach

Timestamps: [02:40] – [06:51]

• Steelers’ Motivation:
  • Shannon cites Art Rooney II emphasizing McCarthy’s experience and ability to develop QBs, brushing off online backlash.
    • “The news of the Steelers intent to hire McCarthy was met with overwhelmingly negative response from fans on social media… social media really doesn't enter into it…” (Uncle Nocho, [02:40])
• Critique of McCarthy’s Resume:
  • Ocho acknowledges McCarthy's success “everywhere he’s gone,” but questions whether Will Howard can develop into a franchise QB.
    • “No disrespect to brother Howard, I don't think he's the answer for the future… If he was the answer, I'm sure they wouldn't have had to bring in a 42 year old Aaron Rodgers.” (Ocho, [03:48])
  • Shannon:
    • “The man had Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Dak Prescott. 18 years. Exemplary quarterback play. He's got one Super Bowl to show for it.” ([04:52])
  • Both question if anyone, besides Bill Belichick, would have been more celebrated as a hire.
• Brian Flores’ Candidacy:
  • Shannon highlights legal realities impacting coaching searches:
    • “If a guy was suing your company… would you hire him?” ([06:30], referencing Flores’s lawsuit against the NFL)
• Fan Expectations vs. Reality:
  • Ocho and Uncle discuss how fans are spoiled by the consistent winning of franchises like the Patriots, Chiefs, and Eagles.
    • “People have been spoiled by watching the Patriots… I think people have been spoiled by the Chiefs… not really understanding how difficult it is to consistently win…” (Ocho, [07:10])

2. Eagles Offensive Coordinator Vacancy

Timestamps: [22:43] – [32:16]

• The Allure (and Pressure) of the Job:
  • Ocho playfully lobbies for the OC job:
    • “Absolutely. I would love to be the goddamn offensive play caller for goddamn Philadelphia. You mean to tell me I got Devonta Smith, I got A.J. Brown, I got Saquon Barkley in the backfield…” ([23:18])
  • Questions about A.J. Brown’s future and the overall appeal of the job, given expectations and cap limitations.
  • Shannon doubts if outside coordinators view Jalen Hurts as highly as Eagles fans do:
    • “I don't think people view Jalen Hurts like Eagles fans do…” ([26:57])
  • Ocho counters with Hurts's proven win record:
    • “We talk about a Super Bowl champion… a quarterback that all he does is win… why would you not want to work with a quarterback who has already proved he can win?” ([27:46])
  • They dissect the difference between winning as a team and individual skill, warning not to overvalue rings alone.
• Ocho’s Candidacy (for laughs):
  • Ocho goes on a spirited rant about calling plays on Madden as qualifying experience ([31:38]), pushing Philly to “holla at your boy” and pledging to bring the Lombardi Trophy if given the chance ([36:36]).

3. Philip Rivers a Buffalo Bills Coaching Favorite

Timestamps: [33:48] – [34:41]

• Shannon reports that Philip Rivers is a serious candidate for Bills HC, despite lack of prior coaching.
  • Ocho, in disbelief:
    • “You mean to tell me I can't go coach the Eagles as offensive coordinator and Philip Rivers get to go coach for the Bills?” ([33:59])
• Discussion on non-traditional coaching hires (i.e., Jeff Saturday), implications for the league, and moving the goalposts on experience.

4. Stefon Diggs’s Comeback & ‘Fairy Tale’ Super Bowl Run

Timestamps: [37:00] – [39:19]

• Stefan Diggs is headed to the Super Bowl post-ACL injury.
  • Diggs’ emotional on-field interview:
    • “They was calling me washed. I didn't have it anymore. I just wanted to prove to myself I am who I say am. This team took a chance on me, and I wanted to make them proud.” ([37:00], quoting Diggs)
  • Ocho and Shannon reflect on how injuries mentally challenge players, stressing the importance of timing and fit.
  • “It's almost like a fairy tale for Stefan… a movie script couldn't write it any better…” (Ocho, [39:15])

5. Coaching, Sacrifice, and Culture

Timestamps: [13:17] – [20:27]

• Life of a Coach:
  • Discussion around the sacrifices of coaching, time away from family, the all-consuming grind, and public misperceptions of coaches’ work-life balance.
  • “You know what you sign up for when you marry a coach… every coach that I know burns the midnight oil…” (Uncle Nocho, [13:17])
  • Ocho reinforces that greatness in football demands sacrifices the average person doesn’t see:
    • “There’s no explanation that can be given where they will understand it…” ([17:38])
  • They also address accusations of glorifying “absent fathers,” explaining context and sacrifice, not celebration.

6. Quick Hits & Interactions

• Chat Q&A on roster moves, team strategies, frozen footballs, and Super Bowl jitters.
  • On why WRs don’t wear sleeves in the cold:
    • “You want that leather contact with the ball or hey, it's gonna slip right up out of there.” (Ocho, [43:01])
  • On family at the Super Bowl:
    • “If you hadn’t seen Shannon Sharpe in a preseason game, a regular season, or a playoff, why you calling for Super Bowl tickets?” (Uncle Nocho, [49:42])
  • Musings on defense vs. QB importance ([64:31]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Mike McCarthy’s Past Successes and Failures:

  • “Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Dak Prescott…18 years—one Super Bowl to show for it.” —Shannon ([04:52])

• On Fan Psychology:

  • “People have been spoiled by the goddamn Patriots… the Chiefs… not understanding how difficult it is to consistently win.” —Ocho ([07:10])

• On Jalen Hurts & Philly’s QB Situation:

  • “I can convince [A.J. Brown] to stay. We gon’ be a pass-first team... first 15, three of those are coming to you!” —Ocho ([23:37])
  • “I don't think people view Jalen Hurts like Eagles fans do.” —Shannon ([27:09])
  • “Why would you not want to work with a quarterback who has already proved he can win? Makes no sense to me.” —Ocho ([27:45])

• On Philip Rivers and Coaching Pathways:

  • “You mean to tell me I can't go coach the Eagles as offensive coordinator and Philip Rivers get to go coach for the Bills?” —Ocho ([33:59])

• On Stefon Diggs's Redemption:

  • “They was calling me washed… I wanted to prove I am who I say am.” —Diggs, quoted by Shannon ([37:00])
  • “It's almost like a fairy tale for Stefan… a movie script couldn't write it any better…” —Ocho ([39:15])

• Comedic High Point—Ocho's Play Calling Credentials:

  • “Now, I might not have no experience calling plays in the NFL, but I call them on Madden. Same thing.” —Ocho ([31:38])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:40] – Steelers hire Mike McCarthy; initial reactions and skepticism
• [04:52] – Critical breakdown of McCarthy’s legacy
• [06:30] – Reality of hiring Brian Flores amid ongoing lawsuit
• [07:10] – Contemporary fan expectations vs. NFL reality
• [22:43] – Eagles’ OC search; Ocho’s campaign, pros & cons of the Philly job
• [26:57] – Jalen Hurts’s national perception vs. Philly fandom
• [31:38] – Ocho’s jokey application for Eagles OC (“I call plays on Madden”)
• [33:48] – Philip Rivers as a Bills head coach frontrunner shocks the hosts
• [37:00] – Stefon Diggs’s comeback story and Super Bowl bound Texans
• [49:02] – Super Bowl logistics: tickets, family, and sleeping before the game
• [64:31] – Modern NFL: Defense vs. quarterback-centric team building
• [66:39] – End-of-show wrap & Super Bowl details for the live audience

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Overall Tone & Style

• Tone: Unfiltered, humorous, candid, and passionate; lots of locker-room energy, playful host-versus-host ribbing, and fan interaction
• Language: Casual, direct, some cursing (true to the hosts’ style), frequent use of sports slang/jargon
• Recurring Bit: Ocho lobbying (jokingly but persistently) for the Eagles offensive coordinator job, citing “Madden” experience and Philly lingo.

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Summary for New Listeners

If you missed this Nightcap Hour 2, you missed the wildest barbershop-couch breakdown of NFL coaching chaos, from the polarizing McCarthy hire in Pittsburgh to the comic relief of Ocho’s over-the-top Eagles OC pitch. Shannon Sharpe and Ochocinco Johnson fuse insider knowledge and fan frustration, exposing how front-office decisions, public perceptions, and roster realities never quite line up.
They cover why winning in the NFL is so rare (even for serial winners), celebrate Stefon Diggs’ defiant comeback, and don’t shy from hard truths about the business of football—on the field, on the sidelines, and in the hearts of the fans.

This episode is a must-watch/listen for anyone interested in the drama behind the league’s biggest headlines, told with raw honesty and a whole lotta laughs.

Transcript

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[Uncle Nocho]

J.J. watt tweeted Mike Vrabel in his first year with New England. Mike McDonald's second year in Seattle. Kirk Signetti second year at Indiana. A whole lot of owners and athletic director look around and say why can't we do that? Expectations of immediate results have never been higher.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, but hold on. All owners have to do is look at the foundation. Everything starts with having a goddamn quarterback first. It doesn't matter who you bring in. These coaches are coming to great situations where they have great pieces in certain places and you build around those pieces. But the most important piece that you need to have success before you worried about any other unless you have a phenomenal defense is the quarterback.

[Uncle Nocho]

And the Broncos shows once you find one of them Defense. If you don't have that quarterback, you're not doing nothing. The Seahawks. Excuse me, the Texans last week. If your quarterback plays like garbage, you're not doing anything. It's really that simple. Ocho, let's not. Let's not over complicate it for the chat. We could have. But if he plays bad, he can. Your defense is hard for your defense to overcome. Black bad quarterback play like it could in years.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, definitely.

[Uncle Nocho]

Oh Joe. The Steelers are hired Mike McCarthy as their next head coach. The Steelers Owner and team president Art rooneys II cited McCarthy's previous accomplishments as a head coach and his ability to develop quarterbacks as a difference making traitors. The news of the Steelers intent to hire McCarthy was met with overwhelmingly negative response from fans on social media. Rooney response well, we're really not worried about winning. The initial press conference is about picking the coach we believe will help us win games and social media really doesn't enter into it and none of that matter once we start playing games. The message for our fans is we're very excited. We think we have a coach who's well equipped to lead us into the next winning phase of Steelers football. And, and with that, and that's what it is all about. I think we're going to love coach Mike Ocho. Do you like the hire for the Steelers?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean I like Coach McCarthy in general. I mean everywhere, everywhere he's going he's had, he's had some, some success. He's had sex success with the Cowboys but never did get them to the promised land like he would wanted to. He had success, he was with Green Bay. Never did get them to the promised.

[Uncle Nocho]

Land like he went with Aaron Rogers.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, yeah, he won with Aaron Rodgers that one year. So I mean he, that's why I said he's had success on the places he's gone. I like the hire but again what are we doing, what are we doing with the quarterback situation? I, I read somewhere I saw something about he likes what he sees from Will Howard. No disrespect to brother Howard. I don't think he's the answer for the future. I'm just saying and me and knowing and watching quarterbacks over the years that I've, that I've not only played but watched this game in general and knows what it takes to be a quarterback in the NFL. I, I don't think he, he's, he's the answer. Maybe I could be wrong. Maybe he can prove me wrong. But if he was the answer, I'm sure they wouldn't have had to bring in a 42 year old Aaron Rodgers. Maybe is this the inclination in bringing Aaron Rodgers back so they can have that, that one, one more shot at it? Again being that they're familiar with each other, Aaron Rodgers and Coach McCarthy. But again, I mean the higher is good as the coach that has that, that, that is, is used to winning. You know, he's, he's won before but again until you fix that situation at the quarterback position, it's just going to.

[Uncle Nocho]

Be the same I look at it like this. Ocho, the man had Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Dak Prescott. 18 years. He's had exemplary quarterback play. He's got one Super bowl to show for it. He got three guys that's won seven MVPs, one Super so for it. Look at all the receipts. Look at all the great players that he's coached. Look at what he had when he had Jamaica Finley, when he had Donald Driver and he had Greg Jennings and he had the white kid, the young man, Jordy Nelson, Derek Randall, Cobb, James Johnson. Look at what he had in Dallas. Look at all the players that he had. So Aaron Rodgers, Brett Favre, Dak Prescott, Zeke Elliott, all those guys, what he's had. Yeah, one super bowl to show for it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I got a question though. When we, when we break it down, right? And coaches that, and coaches that are available for these positions and, and I mean, who else would you hire though? You think about it, especially if, if, like if we're going to bring up the resumes of what these coaches have done in the past, the only, the only hire where people would be acceptance of, of would be accept. Accepting of what they've done in the past based on resume and accolades would be that of Bill Belichick and, and he's not walking through Steelers.

[Uncle Nocho]

I think the people, you know from talking around the league, they don't think he, you know, they don't think he can win without Tom Brady. They don't know how well he relates to the modern day player.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right.

[Uncle Nocho]

I know people say, Brian, just saying, it's just guys, let me ask you this. If a guy was suing your company or the company you're affiliated with, will you hire him? You know, Brian, Brian Flores had a lawsuit pending against the NFL, right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, sure.

[Uncle Nocho]

Do we know that? Oh, did we forget?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I think, I think a lot of people might have forgot that.

[Uncle Nocho]

Well, let me first remember he had the pending lawsuit against the NFL, the cough drop.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, you know what? I think people have been spoiled too. People have been spoiled by watching the, watching the Patriots over the years super bowl always being an attention. I think people have been spoiled by the goddamn the Eagles and the success that they had as, as of late, obviously not this year. I think people have been spoiled by the Chiefs and the sex success that they've always had with Patrick Mahomes. Not really understanding how difficult it is to consistently win or how difficult it is to actually reach a Super bowl. And seeing these teams go in a short amount of time over and over, they think it's attainable every single year. It's.

[Uncle Nocho]

Well, you get guys like Brady Mahomes that make it look so routine. People think, well, why can't everybody do that? No, it's not easy. What Tom Brady did for two decades is not easy. What Patrick Mahomes has done in 10 years, get to five Super Bowls and win three is not easy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Now that's crazy when you think about it. That's crazy. Damn.

[Uncle Nocho]

Y' all could have been talking about. Y' all be talking all you want to. I'm just saying. Real. I'm just asking you. Chat. So if somebody is going to sue your company, the company that you work for, would you hire said individual? Why you think you ain't Nobody call John G.R.W. noo John G.R. got a law.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

John would be a. John would be a nice one. That John is a good coach.

[Uncle Nocho]

Shield. No, the Shield is these 32 owners. And if they lose this case, 32 owners are going to have to pay. I.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, man, I got a goddamn fly in the house, man.

[Uncle Nocho]

Why do I hate the Steelers? I'm trying to figure out why I hate the Steelers, though. The hate days for the Steelers is long, long gone. Long, long, long, long, long gone.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I mean I've, I've never hated. I've never hated the Steelers.

[Uncle Nocho]

Well, you had to if you, if you play for the Ravens.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, even. Even though. Oh yeah.

[Uncle Nocho]

You have no choice.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, but when you look at the coaching, I mean, who, who else? You think about it, if it wasn't Mike McCarthy, then who? I mean.

[Uncle Nocho]

I sure wish Clint could have got that job at Baltimore, but I think, I think the thinking.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Baltimore?

[Uncle Nocho]

Yes, in Baltimore. I think that. Can you imagine? You see how he dialed it up? I'm thinking that Steve Bishad is thinking, well, I have Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson has won two MVPs in two different systems. So it doesn't matter who's coaching him on offense, he's going to be great. I need somebody to fix this broken down defense. I'm thinking that's how, that's how Steve Bishad is thinking. I could be right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right.

[Uncle Nocho]

But that's what I'm thinking and I think that's why he went defense instead of offense. And I, and I want Clint to get a job so bad. But man, if he go to the Raiders, he ain't got no quarterback.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Why would he. Why would you think he'd take that job? Why would anybody take the Raiders or the Brown job? I'm not going to Brown outside Of the chance I don't listen. These, these, these situations are opportunities don't present themselves often. So I'm gonna take the job knowing I'm only be there for two or three years.

[Uncle Nocho]

True.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

For what?

[Uncle Nocho]

I guess. I guess they're looking at like, you know what they're gonna get the number one pick, the Raiders. They'll take Mendoza and Clint can. Can work his magic with that. I'm thinking that's what they're thinking. Ocho. I'm being honest. I'm thinking that's what they're thinking.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I. I would take. I would take the Raiders job. Only if we're taking Mendoza. Yes. And we get number three from Dallas and bringing them on over there to pair with Brock Bowers and Trey Tucker. That's it. Now if that's not happening, I'm good.

[Uncle Nocho]

Boy. DK probably kicking himself.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Why he had the Steelers.

[Uncle Nocho]

The team he just left going to the Super Bowl. What you mean why? Can you imagine? You go to New. You go to New England and Cincinnati go to the Super Bowl. Boy, you lost your damn mind.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, actually it was the opposite way I left Cincinnati.

[Uncle Nocho]

You didn't feel a part of that. You a bingo. I didn't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I didn't. I'm always a baby.

[Uncle Nocho]

So imagine the bingo go to the Super Bowl.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, I would have got you get a ring me. They would have gave me one. I would have got one. Hey. I would have got one made.

[Uncle Nocho]

Art Rooney II said on Steelers head coaching search we wound up bringing three guys in for in person interviews. Brian Flores, Mike McCarthy and Anthony Weaver. And then we sat down and talked about whether we had our man. If we wanted to bring more people in for in person interviews. We decided that Mike was the man for the job. So we went ahead and offered him the job on Saturday. The Rooney rule. They brought two guys. They brought three. Three plant three coaches in. Two are African Americans. The Rooney rule is named after them, which means minorities get an opportunity. They did it. They hired Mike Tomlin. Now they interviewed others. Okay. He felt they felt that Mike McCarthy was the best for the job. Two guys are defensive guys. And they said, we want somebody that can develop a quarterback. We have yet to develop a quarterback since, you know, Ben Roethlisberger. But they had Ken Wisenhunt and they had Bruce Arians. I hope it works.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I told you should put your name in the hat for one of your coaching jobs. You would have got picked up quick, right?

[Uncle Nocho]

I want no part of that because I don't want people. Cause people already criticizing Mike McDonald. Mike McDonald because he say he sees the kid about 30 minutes a week. And everybody like, that ain't no flex. That ain't no flex. Well, tell me the coach. Tell me the coach. Every coach always says the same thing. The kids, you, you know the, and, and you know what you sign up for when you marry a coach, you know he's not going to be around like a regular guy on a 9 to 5. So the, the wives or girlfriends or whoever is, is accepting of that. Every coach that I know burn the midnight oil.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Always blank. Hey, listen. Blankets and pillows in, in the, in, in the, in the rooms. Blankets and pillows in all the coaches offices because of the time spent game planning, watching film, preparing the car cue cards for the next day. I mean, so hearing that, I saw, I saw the clip and I saw.

[Uncle Nocho]

The coach saying, I want to know how much time you think the coach actually spends. Ocho, he actually spends at home during the season.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, a little bit of none. A little bit of none. Because some nights you don't even go home. If they wasn't going home back then, I know damn well they're not going home now simply because of the preparation it takes to prepare for a game week to week, especially as a game.

[Uncle Nocho]

Games like this, this is a profession.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know, where it matters even more.

[Uncle Nocho]

It's a, it's a thing. Don't you maybe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Listen, baby, I'm gonna be here all week. Baby, I'm, I'm not gonna see you. You and the kids can come on and stop battle.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah, that's probably what happened. They probably might have dinner in his office. Yeah, but I don't have no problem with it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And now look, look where they are now because of the time he's put in the work when they, if they, if and if they win the super bowl, you get to make, you get to make up all that time you missed during those six months. You understand what you signed up for? Depending on who you date.

[Uncle Nocho]

I want to know the guy. That makes that kind of money and he works a nine to five. So tell me. That's the job I want now tell me the job. Guy that works 9 to 5, Ocho, he works a normal hour and make that kind of money.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

How much you make? How much?

[Uncle Nocho]

We talking what coaches make? Somewhere between 10 and $20 million a.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Year on a nine to five. So that's six months out the year. Nine to five, six months. 20 million a year. 11, 20. Me in a year. So that's my calculator. That's about. Okay. Carry the one. Yeah. Uncle. Ain't nothing out there like that.

[Uncle Nocho]

Of course not.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Not no nine to five.

[Uncle Nocho]

But when you. When you do sports, it's just like the reporters do. Y'. All. Hey, hey. Y' all miss deadline. Y' all make it seem like y' all there for every event for y' all kids. Who. Who was. That's a sport. I'm trying to figure out. I want to know the guy that every recital, every pta, every game, everything that they were there for. Even the most doting and loving dad, I want to know the one that if he played a professional sport, if he was a coach, that he was there for everything that the kids did, like a father. That's at a nine to five. I want to know. Because normally when you get into these jobs, you already know what comes along with it. The same thing I tell people when they talk about, you know, you know, I want to do this or I want to be in sports. I said, okay. You okay working weekends? I don't mind working weekends. What about holidays, man, you know, this ain't for you. I don't know if you noticed. They play sports on holidays. Are you okay with not spending a holiday with your family? Oh, okay. Find something that allows you to spend holidays and weekends with your family. This ain't for you. Sports, not for you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, I. Obviously those. I mean, for. For. For the average person that's. That's probably not used to it maybe doesn't understand when it comes to the sacrifice that comes into not only being a player, but being a coach, they probably won't understand it. They probably won't understand it. There's no explanation that can be given where they will understand it. They did. They just won't. What it commands, the sacrifice it takes but one to have the success that coaches had this year.

[Uncle Nocho]

No, I just. I could tell people, somebody. It's just football. I can tell people that's never. Never played anything. You got the nine to five.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Who's. Who said it's just football?

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah, somebody said that it is to you? No.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, to people that played in life or Death.

[Uncle Nocho]

But like I said, I want y' all to tell.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's how you pay your bills.

[Uncle Nocho]

I want them to tell me the guy that was a professional, that a professional athlete or coach that was at every event for the child growing up. So they made all the PTAs, they made all the recitals, they made all the practices. They made everything. You can't. Because guess what? There's some guys that work 9 to 5 and can't make it because they got to pull overtime, y' all say, y' all say anything to try to get. And we got so many sheep that just thought, yeah, you right. That ain't no flex. That man chose this. And to be great, you got to put it if all you do is work 9 to 5 and you will not be great as what you're as a professional athlete or a coach, now you can work a 9 to 5 and be great at your job working 40 hours a week to each his own. I don't begrudge anybody because I worked a 9 to 5. Well, it was more than 9 to 5. More like 7 to 7. But anyway, you get the idea. Same. But for me, I wanted more. I didn't want and there's nothing wrong with that, but I didn't want with a 9 to 5 because I couldn't provide for my family with that. My grandmother had worked long, hard enough. My grandma had slept on that that terrible mattress long enough. It lived in that house long enough. That wasn't enough for me and my.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Brother and and not. This is the type of pissed me off somebody in the chat. So now we glorifying absent fathers. So everything, everything we're saying is just.

[Uncle Nocho]

Going over because that's. Yeah, hold on. There are a lot of fathers that don't. Don't. Does not a professional athletes is not up there anybody glorified. No absentee father. You just understand there are certain occupations.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Are we not part of it? Are we not. Are we not listening? You just explained it in how it is for those that are part of certain world and certain occupations and certain jobs. It comes with what you do.

[Uncle Nocho]

Would be a stay at home dad. You late to the show, bro. We already talked about the Broncos losing. You lazy. You wait till the show, bro. We are we hour and a half we 90 minutes into the show. You talking about no one talking about the Broncos losing. Oh yo, we just spent 35 minutes talking about the Broncos losing.

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[Nav Green]

This show contains information subject to but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This your boy, Nav Green from the Broken Play podcast. Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect podcast podcast network. Another team who ain't going to the playoff? The Chiefs.

[Uncle Nocho]

What's a rap?

[Nav Green]

It's time to rebuild. Who your MVP right now.

[Uncle Nocho]

Then Drake May up there. Josh Allen up there still. Oh, my boy Matthew Stafford. Where did Bo Nicks at? He ain't too far behind.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He did all this talking.

[Uncle Nocho]

What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, is crazy.

[Nav Green]

Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better weapon. Caleb Williams.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, he should be in that conversation.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

In what conversation?

[Nav Green]

He should be in it. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or whatever. You get your podcast, ojo.

[Uncle Nocho]

The Philadelphia Eagles are still looking for their next offensive coordinator, according to espn. Jeremy Fowler. The report reported today that the Cowboys blocked Philadelphia's request to talk to Clayton Adams for the same position with the Eagles. When talking to Phillies OC opening this week, Greg Olsen said, if I'm an offensive play caller, I'm doing everything in my power to get that job. I want to go call plays in Philadelphia. That's a great job, Ocho. It's calling plays in those in Philly. Is that a great job?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Great job? Absolutely. I would love to be the goddamn offensive play caller for goddamn Philadelphia. You mean to tell me I got Devontae Smith, I got A.J. brown, I got Saquon Barkley in the backfield. I got Envy.

[Uncle Nocho]

Are you sure you're gonna have a Brown next year? Are you sure? Oh, I don't know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't know. I. Listen, listen. If I'm the offensive coordinator, I can convince him to stay. If I could convince him to stay, I can. Listen here, A.J. brown. I'm coming in. You not gonna have none of the problems you had last year. I'm the one calling the players now. And basically what I'm going to do, what I'm going to do is we're going to be a pass first team, the offense. The first 15 scripted plays for the next 17 to 18 weeks. The first 15, three of those are coming to you. Guarantee you we will look nothing like we did the previous year. Okay? Fly, Eagles, fly. Now, that's going to be my notion to him if I was given an awarded the officer coordinator position for the F Eagles. Well, that's not a possibility. We know that's not going to happen. But I. It's a great job. M. It's a great job. It's a great job. I think depending on who you get in there, they can expand the horizon of some of the things that Jaylen Herz. Some of the things that he does and some of the things that he does that he doesn't do well. They can make his weaknesses his strengths. And I. Obviously we don't want to go in depth of what those. Those may be for those. For those of us who watch the game from the outside and know what we're looking at. But I think they. They. They can get back to. To. What's the word? To. To prominency. You know, from. From an offensive standpoint, where their identity and everything that we talk about is not just their defense. They can get back to what they did that year. They won the super bowl, and that's. Be consistently consistent offensively, especially with the run and with. In. In with the pass.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah, I agree. I think it's a great opportunity. You get Lane Johnson back, the offensive line will be back intact. Hopefully Dickinson and Jurgens get fully healthy. You show the right guard position because it was. It was not as. It wasn't up to par of what you needed it to be. Defensively, you need another rusher. You need edge. I mean, you got those two guys inside, Jordan Davis and Carter. I like Jaylen Phillips. Can you. Can you sign Jaylen Phillips? You know, Quentin Mitchell. Oo, he gonna want some bread.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You gotta get to him. You ain't got no choice. You got.

[Uncle Nocho]

You gotta get to him.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You got no choice. Oh, yeah, he got one more. Huh?

[Uncle Nocho]

So everything is. It's. Everything is really contingent.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't understand what the problem is. Huh?

[Uncle Nocho]

You got money tied.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't understand what the problem is.

[Uncle Nocho]

And your guard. And your guard. So you got big money tied up in them. You got money tied up in your quarterback. You got money tied up in two receivers. Now you have to spend some money on the defensive side. That means. Oo, you know, when it comes down to it, you can't keep everybody. You just can't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, you can't.

[Uncle Nocho]

As much as you would like to, you just can't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey. Why is that position not filled yet? Everybody. Everybody should be hawking, knocking, knocking down Howie Roseman and Jeffrey Lur's door for that offensive coordinator. Position. I don't. I don't understand.

[Uncle Nocho]

Be honest with you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Take it. Take it.

[Uncle Nocho]

I don't know if this is appealing to a coordinator. I know, Greg Olson, but I don't think people view Jalen hurts like a lot of people does, like the Eagles fans does.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right.

[Uncle Nocho]

I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but I don't think he's as viewed as highly or as favorable around the league as maybe Eagles fans have him rated. Right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm not. I'm not sure why. I'm not sure why. I've heard that. I've heard the dialogue. I've heard the discourses about him. Him not being a great quarterback when it comes to making an anticipatory skill. I mean, anticipatory throws, receivers, having to be wide open before. Before he lets the ball go. I've heard all that stuff.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hunk.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But we talk about a Super bowl champion. We talk about a quarterback that is capable of throwing games, a quarterback that all he does is win. And he show you that, just not at the, At. At the collegiate level, but he show you that at the NFL level. He has a great, superior supporting cast around him. And I think that that is a great position. Why would you not want to work with a quarterback who has already proved he can win? That makes no sense to me.

[Uncle Nocho]

But you've heard the same that I've heard, right? We. We know a lot of the same people. Yeah, yeah. And they say the same thing. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm not saying it's true or untrue. I'm just saying a lot of people in position that don't view him right. And a lot of times what happens is, is that when guys win, we. We sometimes I think we overvalue because, you know, Dan Marino never won a Super bowl, but there are some guys that won super bowl that couldn't hold Dan Marino's shoes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Uncle Nocho]

And so sometimes we. We get skewed by that. And that's what, that's what. That's what rings have done. It's really skewed a lot of people views on how good someone is or isn't. Now if we want to parse it and says, okay, we're gonna compare Brady, Montana, Mahomes, things like that. Okay, I get you. But sometimes the historically and the. And the. The Pantheon greats, some don't have championships. But to say, well, because he has a championship, he's better. Are we really doing that?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, no, no. You can't you can't, because you. You can look at someone and tell. I mean, we all have eyes, right? Some. Some of us got two. Some of us. In my case, I got one. Hey, Yeah, I got one. But I can tell. I have the eye test. You can look at players and understand, based on skill set and quality who's better and who's not. Now, when it comes to a game where you. Where you winning rings that collectively, that's a group effort. That's a group effort. But again, when it comes to individual skill and talent, we can damn sure tell who's better than who. So that. That's a conversation that can be had. But if you got two eyes that work just well, like, come on now. Come on now. But again, like, I. I don't. I don't. I don't. Honestly, if nobody is vying for that office, according to the job with the Philadelphia Eagles, there's one person they can call.

[Uncle Nocho]

Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

There's one person that they can call that understands. Huh?

[Uncle Nocho]

Cause you got people thinking Joe Flacco better than Marino, he got a Super Bowl. But you. That's how they write. That's how they rate it. I was smack dab in the middle of Danny.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay?

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah. I was in the middle of Dance Dance era, in which he played at an extremely high level. So I'm old enough to. Oh, yeah, that's a blessing about being as old as I am, Ocho, because I saw a lot of the greats play. And. But, you know, in this generation now, Ocho, if it didn't happen yesterday, if it happened the day before, it didn't happen, or that guy wasn't no good.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right.

[Uncle Nocho]

And there've been a lot of really, really good players that have been forgotten thanks to the Internet, because the Internet only. Only wants you to remember two weeks ago. Come on, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Sometimes that's why you got to take things into your own hands, huh? Yeah, I mean. I mean, just making sure. Making sure. Remember, you gotta take stuff. You gotta take stuff in your own hands.

[Uncle Nocho]

But.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But anyway, I want to talk about this job over there. I know we got a lot of Philly fans in the chat, and, you know, I know. I know Sirianni personally. Now, I don't have no experience coaching.

[Uncle Nocho]

Well, I feel it was. Got interviews job, and he ain't got no. Well, he got experience coaching at the high school level.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right, Right. So that.

[Uncle Nocho]

That.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That makes me qualify for the. For the position with the Eagles. Now, I might not have no experience calling plays in the NFL, but I call Them on Madden.

[Uncle Nocho]

Same thing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And the Playbook?

[Uncle Nocho]

Same thing. You call it plays.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You call it plays. Hey, same place, same scheme, same tactic. Same same everything. So, Sirianni, holla at your boy. Cause I ain't got. I ain't got no problem moving to Philly for six months out the year. The Philly fans already love me, huh? The city already loved me. You know. You know I got the lingo, dickhead. Bring your boy in.

[Uncle Nocho]

What we talking about, ear wrap?

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[Nav Green]

This show contains information subject to but not limited to personal takes, rumors not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This your boy, Nav Green from the Broken Play podcast. Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect podcast network. Another team who ain't going to the playoff? The Chiefs.

[Uncle Nocho]

What's a rep?

[Nav Green]

It's time to rebuild. Who your MVP right now then Drake May up there?

[Uncle Nocho]

Josh Allen up there still. Oh, my boy. Matthew Stafford. Where did Bo Nicks at? He ain't too far behind.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He did all this talking.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, what Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, is crazy.

[Nav Green]

Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better weapon. Caleb Williams.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, he should be in that conversation.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

In what conversation?

[Nav Green]

He should be in it. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get.

[Uncle Nocho]

Your podcast report said it's a serious possibility Philip Rivers become the next head coach of the Bills. It's real. It's not a joke.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And you mean to tell me I can't go coach the Eagles as offensive coordinator Philip Rivers get to go coach for the for the Bills.

[Uncle Nocho]

Reports say Josh Allen has been sitting in on all the head coaching interviews. Jeff Saturday was the last in 2022 with the Colts. The last person named NFL head coach albeit on the interim basis, without any prior college or pro coaching experience, nor van Brocklin in 1961, is the last person to be hired as a full time NFL coach without any prior college.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know what? That's it.

[Uncle Nocho]

What you mean, that's it?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's it. Hey, I'm going. I'm going to the Eagles. I'm going to the Eagles. I don't care. I don't care.

[Uncle Nocho]

Don't you want them to call you first?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Call it, huh? This is. I'm doing my interview. This my part of my interview process right now. Hey, Philly fans, you know what? Yeah, I'm. Man, it's a rap. I'm gonna pack. Hold on, hold on.

[Uncle Nocho]

What you doing? You pack it up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes, I got my bags ready. Boy, are we going to Philly?

[Uncle Nocho]

I'm good.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, listen. They don't even have to hire me. Just bring me in, bring me up for an interview.

[Uncle Nocho]

You just want to say that's one thing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, young. One thing about it is one thing I could do is I can switch up real good now. You get that?

[Uncle Nocho]

You get.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You have Ocho here on camera for nightcap. You give me Ocho, Philadelphia's officer coordinator position. It's a completely different animal. It's a completely different person. I change the way I talk. I'm very professional. I got on a shirt and tie. We can break down film. We can watch film. I can show you where I can improve some of the things that. Excuse me. Some of the things that Jalen hurts, may struggle with. I can teach you. I can show you what we need to do to manipulate defenses by changing some of the things that A.J. brown and Devonte Smith do. Listen, we struggle with the run. What do we need to do with the run? Change some of the things that we do with Saquon Barkley. We got the move. Dude, you don't understand. If they get. If they give me the opportunity to coach and call plays for the Philadelphia Eagles, you might as well give us the goddamn Lombardi next year. Because you don't understand what I would bring to that team, huh? The energy. I'm. I'm telling you, that's what they need. They need somebody like me in that building.

[Uncle Nocho]

They need you, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm talking about. I'm about to take us to the next man. Oh, boy. I'm ready. I'm ready. Sirianni, I know you're gonna see this. Hey, Big Dom. I know you're gonna see this. Mr. Lurie. Huh? Mr. Roseman, Holl your Boy, holla at your boy. Because it's. It's different. It's different.

[Uncle Nocho]

Stefan Diggs is headed to the super bowl after he came back from ACL surgery. He suffered, you know, ACL tear he suffered last year while playing for the Texans. Diggs said on the field. Field interview with Cameron Wolf of NFL Media. They was calling me washed. I didn't have it anymore. I just wanted to prove to myself I am who I say am. This team took a chance on me, and I wanted to make them proud. I'm thankful. Saw Cardi on the field. We going to the Super Bowl. I. Look, I don't know what it is about Cardi B. But y' all can't make me hate Cardi. Hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know what? You know, Cardi B is one of those people that. That she's very likable.

[Uncle Nocho]

They can't make me hate Cardi.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You.

[Uncle Nocho]

You.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You can't. She's very likable. I'm. I'm happy for Steph, too, Unc. I'm happy with Steph. He's come a long way. You know what injuries can do to you mentally. Injuries can crush you. They can crush you. Especially when you've been playing for a long time. You. You've had success and. And something like that happened to you. Most of the time you come back and you're not the same. You're not the same. And he was able to come back from injury, be in the right situation, and still be a perfect piece to the puzzle for the.

[Uncle Nocho]

They didn't need. They didn't need Vikings. Stefan Diggs. They didn't need Buffalo Stefan Diggs. That guy ego was uncontrollable, and it wouldn't work in that environment. They got the guy at the right time, man. Cardi. I was listening to Cardi. She would talk about what, you know, stepfather allegedly had another. Had another young lady pregnant. She like, b. We'll figure it out. We got. Hey, hey, let it drive. Drop my kid off. You drop yours off. We'll figure it out. Man, I'll cry like, man, hey, man, she fun, man. It's just. It's the way she talk and what she be saying. I mean, you can't help but like, Cardi, man. She let Cardi get some shine. They need to be showing Cardi at the Super Bowl. I want to see Cardi get some close ups.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, that. That. That's dope, man. That's. That's a. That's a. That's a. In. In a sense, you look at It. It's almost like a fairy tale for Stefan, in a sense. It's almost like a fairy tale, man. I'm happy for young Bull, man. All the stuff he's had to go through on and off the field. So I'm glad to see him having. Having success, you know, in. In. In the way. In a way that, man, you.

[Uncle Nocho]

You.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You couldn't. You could. A movie script. Couldn't write it any better than this.

[Uncle Nocho]

All right, we're gonna get you out on this. It's time for our final segment of.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The E. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hey, we f. To go.

[Uncle Nocho]

For real.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Adam, listen, you done made me take a. I just took a nap today, and I got so much energy right now. Let's get the people one more hour.

[Uncle Nocho]

I'm not gonna do that, ham. Underscore910. Ocho, they call Ghostbusters before they call you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, so basically, what you telling me is you a hater? That's what it sound like to me.

[Uncle Nocho]

D2. Ocho, come coach the boys. In Philly, we call you Coacho Cinco. Yeah. Let's go.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Fly, Eagles, fly. Fly, Eagles, fly. Hey, Jaylen, I know you gonna see this. Hey, hit my line, boy. We can start. We can start early.

[Uncle Nocho]

Jews. 1976. Uncle Ocho, y' all must be doing well because y' all giving ESPN and Fox hell after the games. People tune in the nightcap. If they call, make them pay double. You know me. OO gonna do what we do. We got. Oh.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Nocho]

You know, we ain't got no more clip. Oh, we gonna air tomorrow. Is that thing airing tomorrow?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, we. We'll be airing tomorrow, huh?

[Uncle Nocho]

Oh, no, no. Oh, what you call them? It's Tuesday. It's going to be on the day off, right? Oh, my bad, My bad, My bad, My bad, my bad.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What y' all talking about?

[Uncle Nocho]

The. The stuff. The stuff from New York.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ah, man, don't show that.

[Uncle Nocho]

Thank you, Juice, man. We appreciate. We appreciate all our chat, you know? Hey, we love it, Ocho. Y' all go back and forth with Ocho and I. Hey, y' all gonna talk. We gonna talk. That's what it's about. So we really, really appreciate you guys tuning in. We had a big number in the chat tonight. Hopefully, we can get a even bigger number for the Super Bowl. So we greatly, greatly appreciate you guys for supporting us thus far. True and infamous. First, thank you, Viking. Second, Ram fans. Can't say foot or ball. Third, Stephen. Stephen A. Rc Cam picked around not look like clouds. It was a good game. It was a great game. I. I was not taking the Rams over Seattle. Not at home. Unless you can. Unless you can coax Sam Darnold into turning the football over. They're gonna be tough to beat, Barry. I'm just gonna say they're gonna be tough to beat. Very tough to beat. Triple X Cop Saturday. Can't say for the ball. Ocho. Excuse me. Also, Unc, if Ocho don't pay you 5,900, it might be some furniture moving to San Francisco. Don't worry about it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm all about moving furniture.

[Uncle Nocho]

I mean, you might be in the ocean. I throw his ass overboard.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah, let's. Hey, I've been in the weight room, man. I'm. I'm liable to whoop you right now.

[Uncle Nocho]

I'm weak right now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm about 225. Hey, I'm liable to whoop you right now.

[Uncle Nocho]

I heard my elbow, man. 272, 225, 275. Killing me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's it.

[Uncle Nocho]

That's it. That's all I got, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm repping that. That ain't nothing to me.

[Uncle Nocho]

Well, rep me my money.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, I'm. I'm talking about. I'm living. I'm talking about lifting weights.

[Uncle Nocho]

All right? We're gonna see Aaron Jones, Eagles, smoking on that Broncos pack. Did all that hating for what? Ponies in Cancun, Man, y' all some haters. Eagle fans. Brandon Crow, as a former player. How do you guys play with no sleeves in the cold, snowy conditions? Is there a reason for not layering up? Love the show. Keep it up. Yeah, cuz. You got to be able to hold on to the ball.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Bingo. I'm gonna say the same thing. Hey, think about this. When it. When it's cold, right? Think about. Think about Derrick Henry and the problems he had with the struggles and fumbling the ball. Remember those sleeves he was wearing? You can't feel the ball. You want that leather contact with the ball or. Hey, it's gonna. It's gonna slip right up out of there, that ball.

[Uncle Nocho]

Hey, but see, the thing is now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Especially when it's cold, when it's cold, it's even worse.

[Uncle Nocho]

But you know, now, Ocho, they let you have them balls for the whole week. They used to just let us get them on Sunday.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Sunday.

[Uncle Nocho]

That thing be slick. So now they don't let the balls got all beat all up. They don't put them in the dry. They don't need all kind of things. But when it's cold, that bar, the ball, it gets hard and it gets slick. And so I wanted. I wanted. I wanted the skin. Pick skin against my skin. So you put Vaseline on the outer layer to try to keep the. Keep that the heat in, but that's it. And they can grab you. DB's gonna grab and hold.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Every time.

[Uncle Nocho]

Nothing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey. You know, I thought about too. Hey, ask to hear me. Ask you. Can you hear me?

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, look. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Chat this for you too. Real quick. I want to go. Before we go to the next question, I want you to think about this, right? Hey, chat. Listen very closely. What pronouns you with me? What pronouns do chocolate use?

[Uncle Nocho]

What pronouns do chocolate use?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, chocolate. You know, like chocolate you eat. Okay, okay, okay.

[Uncle Nocho]

You got it. There you go.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's a good one, huh? You got it, you got it, you got it.

[Uncle Nocho]

Okay. Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm gonna let you have that one. You got, you got, you got you good. That's the first time you got one. Hey, hey, hey.

[Uncle Nocho]

Y'. All. Desmond, Liz Linsky. 59. 599. Hey, Unc. Just wanted to give you a big shout out for you. Shay laportier. Me and my family celebrate four birthdays this month. Your cognac was a star. Appreciate you, man. Thank you very much for your purchase, man. Can't thank you enough. KI9650. I met Terrell Davis back in November at Ruth Chris in Centennial, Colorado. And he. And I told him I'm a past fan. He laughed and said he feels sorry for me. I wonder if he's laughing now. Damn. J ski 97. I've been waiting for this. 1, 2, 3, Cancun, Donkey Fan Talking all that ish. But they don't want to be able to tweet back. Making all these excuses about not playing, but told me Stidham was good to do, man, please. J Ski, y' all got us today. Y' all the team. I gotta salute you. Aaron Owens. Minnesota messed up big time letting Sam Donna walk. They absolutely did. Alan Alexander the Great. How ironic is it that McVeigh didn't trust Kyron Williams on the goal line in Seattle? Chris Evans. I just want to shout out my Patriots defense. They might not have the biggest names, but they are still good players and deserve to be mentioned like other teams with great defenses. But that's what, you know, coach Belichick always had, you know, guys that just rose to the occasion. Now he has some solid players, you know, go. You look at Willie McGinnis and. Rodney Harrison and Teddy Brusky, they had. Obviously, they had Revis and things like Revis like that. Ty Laws in the. Is in the hall of Fame. Revis is in the hall of Fame. Trying to think who's the next guy. I think Rodney's gonna get some. Gonna get some attention. But, no, the Patriots play well. They got. I mean, they did a great job to go out and get Milton Williams, Gonzalez. They drafted Gonzalez a couple years ago. He's played well. I like. They got. Got me Jones in the slot. Caleb on Chason has been unbelievable for this team.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Crazy.

[Uncle Nocho]

Anthony Jenner from Alabama played well. They got guys that play well. They got guys to fit that scheme and do a great job within that scheme. Destroy. Y' all really thought Gino was better for this team rather than Sam Darnold. Don't run, huh? I think they offered. I think they offered Gino. Gino said no. They tried to sign. They said no.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, he chose. He chose to leave. He chose to leave. They let D. Kept. They let DK go. They let Tyler Lock it go. And. And now I understand why they were able to let those two go. Because that goddamn emergence of jsn, he wasn't able to reach his full potential until everyone else was out the goddamn dope. And now. Now we see why.

[Uncle Nocho]

Name name. How stressful is it leading up to the Super Bowl? Is it hard to sleep nights leading up to it? Did it start to feel more like just another playoff game by your third? Yeah, it's hard to sleep because you don't want to let the team down. You know, it's at stake. You don't want to lose that game because I was, you know, losing. Winning the Broncos and they roping the field off and they usher all those Packer fans, Packers players off the field and all of our. You know, we're coming on the field and our families are coming on the field. Man, that's. That's a terrible feeling. That was a terrible. I didn't feel it, but I can just imagine. Man, please. Yeah, you don't sleep now. You know, you get X amount of tickets. You know, you're getting 15 tickets. You get two comps, and then you get. You pay for 13. That's very, very expensive. Now, I think the cheapest thing. Oh, sure, it might be a hundred thousand dollars. A hundred thousand dollars worth of tickets. The tickets are like. Like. I think the tickets are, like, maybe $2,000 a ticket.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And I'm just saying if. If I was playing a Super bowl, honestly, if you're not my immediate family, you know, my mama, my grandma, you're not. You're not my kids. The best seat in the house to watch the super bowl is at home. That's the best seat.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's the best seat outside. The people that need to experience the super bowl with me are my kids in my immediate nine. Talking about no cousins, no uncles and all that. My mama, my daddy, my kids. And no. And that's it.

[Uncle Nocho]

Your first game. Watching me play wasn't going to be the Super Bowl. So if you hadn't seen Shannon Sharp in a preseason game, a regular season for a playoff game.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Nocho]

Why you calling?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, don't. Yeah, don't.

[Uncle Nocho]

And I know you got some tickets. I do, but not for you. So obviously mom, sister, I mean, mom, sister, yeah. Kids, girlfriend, my coach, my brother's wife. And then when I was in Tampa, Bucket and his wife came. So. Yeah. Two Sloppy Joe Unc. Don't forget about the super cb, Seattle db who broke up the pass on fourth down and started jarring with the ref. See how the DBs have brain worms or something? Well, no, he was celebrating in front of the Rams bench and he got carried away. Boy, can you imagine they lost that. I don't even want to think about it. Dylan Hale. Wow. I'm a Bugs fam. And I love how Seattle, how The Seahawks won. J.J. carver, 80 decreased the unsportsmanlike penalty to 5 yards. It should not be 15. It's the same as rough in the past. One person could be physically hurt, the other cause hurt feelings. Thanks, New York Giants. It's going to be a first down anyway. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Regardless.

[Uncle Nocho]

Deep Green VO let it sink in. Sam Donald just made the super bowl before draft mates Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. He did?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Nocho]

Those guys had the opportunities first, but he made it first. V1P 3R Gaming 13 Every NFL analyst says Sam needs to be the guy in Week 16 and Week 18, division around NFC title game. Will the super bowl ring be enough? Look, a lot of people thought he could easily be the first round pick the year Baker went number one overall. He went number third. He went to a bad situation. Organizations matter. Coaching matter who coaches. You matter. He's gotten great coaching and you see what. You see what he's been able to do. Everybody doesn't have that luxury. A lot of times these guys bounce around and they don't get an opportunity to go study under Kyle Shanahan for a year, to go under Kevin o' Connell for another year. And then Clint Kubiak. That's the same system that Shanahan runs. Where you think he learned it from? Because his dad was on the mic and Kyle called plays on the cool in Houston.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So, yeah, I mean, listen, what we've seen from Sam Donald the past two years, you can understand why he was a third pick in the draft. This is. This is why he just went to an unfortunate situation. If you look at over the years, those that have went to the New York Jets, I mean, need I say more.

[Uncle Nocho]

Don't say no more. Tone the Virgo. As a Raven fans, I couldn't be more happier for Mike McDonald. Look, he had that defense playing, and you were a couple of plays away his last year there. You had Kansas City at home, defense balled out, but, you know, they made a few more plays when they had to have them, and they went to the super bowl and Mike McDaniel went away and your defense hadn't been the same since. Valto FJS8974 Rams fan here. If we take the 3 points and Ocho, maybe McVeigh don't waste those two timeouts and we probably have a different outcome. The special team turnover killed us. Yeah, you play double for turnovers. He had dodged a bullet. One time he fumbled it. He got on it this time.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't know.

[Uncle Nocho]

I don't know how he failed. Locho.

[Nav Green]

I don't know.

[Uncle Nocho]

I. I don't know if I've ever seen a guy do that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, he tripped over. Tripped over himself misjudging the ball. And it was. It was. It was going. If I would, I would have just let it go.

[Uncle Nocho]

Forget that when he fell. Oh, he, he, he. I guess he ain't never fallen roll before. He ain't never dropped. Stop dropping roll, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey. That's a pressure situation, too.

[Uncle Nocho]

Yeah, that was tough play for keeps. What's up Ao? Put my fam in y' all prayers. I lost my mom this morning. Gonna watch y' all tonight to help keep calm my nerves. I rest up, Mom. Yolanda, you'll be missed. Melbourne. I'm sorry to hear.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

My condolences.

[Uncle Nocho]

I am so sorry that we're here at Nightcap or sending our thoughts and prayers to all those that's impacted by Yolanda's passing. Man, I appreciate you tuning in, but, bro, we understood if you didn't. But I know you want to have your mind on something else so you're not thinking about the. The sad heartbreak and tragedy. But I play pray God give you strength, peace and understanding in this Time of sorrow. So thank you, man. Thank you for your support and rest easy. Yolanda Juice 1976 Ocho Zion Williamson signature shoe line is being discontinued by Jordan man brand. The second largest rookie deal. 75 million behind LeBron. 90 million. Thanks for not giving up on us and your Shay Shay media team. It's just hard with all the, you know, he's not playing. Okay, we'll talk. We'll talk about this tomorrow. We'll give. We'll talk about this. We don't want to do it. You know, we'll talk about this tomorrow. But. Yeah, I saw. I saw that. It's tough. So hopefully he will. Hopefully wills Caleb Robinson. Yes, sir. Caleb Robinson said yes, sir. Oo claim your Patriots victory. Nope, we ain't. We're not letting him do that today.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Listen, I'm just showing love. I was just showing love, congratulating them for actually making it. And I just. I just so happened to be on the team, you know, not. Not too long ago.

[Uncle Nocho]

So you caught a touchdowning on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I'm not jumping on the bandwagon, but the fact that they beat your Broncos, I'm kind of happy about that. No, I'm. No, I'm saying I'm congratulating them for beating y', all, not just be. They built that bta. Hey, you going to Cancun with them?

[Uncle Nocho]

No. Baba Patel, shut your A up. Don't say nothing tonight. It's Ocho shoulders tonight. For real. Your Broncos effed up next year. Pat Mahomes will be back to run that division burrow. Lamar Allen will be in contention, too. So what does that mean for your Patriots? You do realize that if they back, that makes it difficult. More difficult for you guys, too, right? So you think the Broncos just the only ones that got to play those teams? I. I'm King Rail. Hey, Ocho, how much I gotta pay to get a gym session with you in Miami? Any day is good for me. I need to get right in the gym with my favorite pro player.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, man, you ain't got to pay me nothing, man. You know, I'm. I'm out here, man. I'm all the way up out west, and I'll be. I'll be in there, you know, getting. Getting at it, you know, six in the morning. So you up at six in the morning. You come on out west, man. You know I'm easy to find.

[Uncle Nocho]

Truly large shade. Um, do you believe the altitude and the thin air effects the players, not just the weather? I think it's a combination of both but you got to put them in a situation. I mean, the game was really slow pace today. I mean, nobody could really run up tempo. Uh, so it was a really a lethargic type of a game. So the Broncos really could never put them under the gun. But I thought the, the, the. The Patriots did a great job of handling how they handled the weather, how they handled the. The inclement weather, and how they handled the Broncos defense. And they won. And they, they earned that victory today. Junior underscored triple I. If only the Broncos would have picked up free agent quarterback who run the ball and used him in the second half, they'd probably be heading to the Super Bowl. Maybe. We'll never know. Bro. L Madness 90 Seahawks winning. It's all coming from a Falcons playing. To be continued. Bingos. They not good. Bo Nicks better than John. I ain't gonna even finish that piano, man. Hey, uncle, no joke. Can you give a birthday shout out to my cousin Hauser? He's a lifelong Steeler fan. Hauser. Happy birthday, bro. Thank you, Steelers. Hi, Mike McCarthy. Hopefully that brings you guys some. Some playoff success. But thank you for watching Nightcap. I appreciate that. We appreciate that. Daniel Wells. Uncle Nocho. We Viking fans know we're effed up with Sam, but damn, y' all don't gotta keep shoving in our face. We know we effed up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, we not gonna shove it in your face. I mean, I mean, imagine when he.

[Uncle Nocho]

Went, if he hosts that super bowl, what y' all gonna see? I'd be pet I take out a full page ad. Thank you. Better so I wouldn't do that old school Taurus 81 Seahawks flying high. You know there's balling. We are super bowl bound. We focused. You look good. You look good. The wy way Lamar make you cuss. Jones has a lot. Oh has the slot. Better not let pass where white make them Sammy see the ghost again. Love the show, bro. That's not a good matchup for Jones, man. But look, the one thing I know about the Patriots, in big games, they always be ready to play. I expect nothing less. Good evening, gentlemen. Will you talk about any UFL games when their season starts? I mean, maybe here and there if there's some spectacular plays, but I don't think that's something that we're like going to detail like we do with the NFL or college Ashley job. Blair. Hey, uncle no show. My name is Ashley. I wouldn't could I have guessed that? Could I get a shout out? Y' all are my favorites. Why y' all. Why is y' all podcast much better than the Kelsey brothers? I think we do different things, but first of all, happy birthday, Ashley. Thank you for watching night.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Happy birthday.

[Uncle Nocho]

Appreciate your support. I think the Kelsey's brother. I think Kelsey's do a great job. We just do. We.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle Nocho]

We just different. We just different.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, completely different.

[Uncle Nocho]

We're gonna tell funny stories about things that a lot of. A lot of other podcasts aren't going to talk about. But we appreciate your support. Sports Grill 15 Ocho need that. What's that? Estevale jersey from Chelsea. Is that him?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a young, young Brazilian player. He played for Chelsea. He played for Chelsea Young.

[Uncle Nocho]

He really got a killer gold today.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

A matter of fact equivalent. He'd be like not Dante hall in his prime. That's that. That's him. He young, young Brazil. He'd be the closest thing we have the Neymar when it comes to a player with excitement and still has a little flair to his game.

[Uncle Nocho]

True. Speaks one on one with Mike. The Steelers will have their first losing season in a while. Plus they don't have a quarterback. Well, Art Rooney the second say he is open to Aaron Rodgers coming back. Aaron is very familiar with Mike and that system, so we'll see what happens. Fans, Belichick's text the wrong Brian congratulating him on the New York head coaching job was. Wow. Text. The floor is meant for day ball. Should coaching spots only be opened after the Super Bowl? No, but I want to know why everybody pulling out that. That Browns coaching thing. Mike McDaniel was there. Mike McDaniel.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know why. Hey, hey, Chat. Make sure y' all spam the Eagles and let them know how. Let your boy. Even if it's just for an interview. You ain't got to hide. You bring me in for an interview. Eagles officer coordinator job.

[Uncle Nocho]

Saw your Carson 93 versus 08 Ocho. 12 rounds, 3 minutes. Boxing. Who takes the win and what? I'm knocking Ocho out.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Are you talking about in boxing or mma?

[Uncle Nocho]

Oh, I know you ain't winning.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I make you tap out.

[Uncle Nocho]

I got.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I got great. I got ground game like Khabib. What you talking about, man? I would make you tap out, man. I break your arm, huh?

[Uncle Nocho]

Ivan Augustino, game on the line. Who y' all taking? JSN or Puka? Either one. That's why I'm surprised. On that fourth down, they didn't throw the ball to Puka or. Or DeVonte. Scuba Steve, Unc, Ocho. I recommend the show for fanatics fest in July. Please come. If we receive an invite, that'll be something we'll seriously, seriously consider. Rashad show. What's up, Uncle Cho, what are some changes you'll make to the Pro bowl to get fans interested again? It's nothing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I know I got the first one. You take some of the some of the Pro bowl players from the past that are still in shape and have them go against the current players. That's exciting. That's exciting because I would love to go to the Pro bowl and route up some of these DBs that think they can cover any of us from the past. I just think would be dope.

[Uncle Nocho]

It's over.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

T.O. is in great shape. Can you imagine T.O. i don't even know what DB's made the pro Bowl. Tio routing up Denzel Ward. I'm sure Denzel probably made it. Or Pat certain having to deal with me at 58 years old and me scoring on him. Man, please.

[Uncle Nocho]

That it'd be dope paradise. Lame boy. Ocho, do you think teams are going to get by with mediocre quarterbacks and elite defense? Is history repeating itself? No. Because you know Jake Drake may had a mediocre game, but if you look at his play, he's in the MVP discussion. So clearly he hasn't been mediocre. No, you have to have and you see the difference. When he needed to make a play, he made a play. The difference is did them didn't make a play. So even with an elite defense, so no, history is not going to repeat itself. Remedy 944. How's Ocho going to complain about the Cowboys keeping pickings with lamb While Bingles have $276 million dropped up in tea and Chase? Come on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What does that have. What does that have to do with With Pickens going somewhere we can get his true value. Okay, this has nothing to do with what the Bengals did. I want Pickens to get his true value and be his own number.

[Uncle Nocho]

They said they wanted t to get his true value and be his own number one.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He wanted to stay there.

[Uncle Nocho]

Well, maybe picking want to stay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No. Pickens. You don't get his money, he's not gonna get it there. I talked to him. I can call him right now.

[Uncle Nocho]

Tips. Hey, love y'. All. Go past. It's my birthday tomorrow. 40. I was nervous. Happy birthday, bro. Congratulations. Hard fought, well earned victory. Edu15. Next. No excuse, but Bo didn't play. See you next season. Go Broncos. Nope. I wish it was just that simple. Queen of Topics tv Hey, the Broncos may have lost, but the ladies. I'll accept your beard as a win. Don't cut it off. It looks great on you. Queen. Thank you very much.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, I see. Hey. Hey. Well, you've been a hot topic since you grew that beard, huh?

[Uncle Nocho]

Why don't receivers catch points?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I like that.

[Uncle Nocho]

It's important. Well, you see once he bobber two of them they put Kyron Williams back there but he just fair caught it. Marlin Spivey. Oh, I bet your boy Skip tried to make an argument that baker better than Adam D.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't know who is Adam?

[Uncle Nocho]

I guess. I guess you meant Sam Darnold because they were both in Sam. Yeah, they were both in Carolina together. Turbo tza. I will be in Vegas for Wrestlemania in April. What spots do you recommend? I check out.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Soul Food Cafe.

[Uncle Nocho]

Grits Cafe. I thought it was the Grits Cafe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That Soul Food Cafe and Gris Cafe is for breakfast. Soul Food Cafes for lunch. Make sure tell them oo sent you and you'll get a 10 discount on your meal.

[Uncle Nocho]

Let you in. Hey guys man, thank you guys for joining us so much. We have our super bowl matchup. The New England Patriots will take on the Seattle Seahawks. The Patriots win 107 in snowy Denver and the the Seahawks sold on to be a very valiant Rams team by the score of 31 27. Thank you guys for joining us. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite unc, my partner and co host, the Liberty City legend, the bingo ring of fame honoree, a former pro Bowler all pro, he's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button. And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank you personally for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of shade by Laportier head over to laportier.com cognac.com if you cannot find it in a state or city near you. It is a premium vsop, the best tasting, smoothest VSOP cognac on the market. I just need you to compare it against other cognacs and let let us know what you think. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Tickets for our live super bowl show in San Francisco are on sale now. That link is pinned in the chat. The show will be Thursday night, February 5th at the Earps Theater in San Francisco. So Bay Area Patriot fans, Seahawk fans come through show some love to Uncle Nocho and then attend the game and see if your team pulls it out. Meet and greet tickets are almost sold out. We have about 10 or so left so head over to get your purchase and make sure you get an opportunity to hang out with Meet Ocho and I. Ocho, we have a very special guest that will be performing. Bay Area rapper La Russell will be coming through to perform a couple of songs for us. Think we got something else lined up for you guys that attend the show again. The Seahawks hold on and beat the Rams in the Thriller and the Broncos lose to the Patriots 10 to 7. I am Unk. He's Ocho. We'll see you tomorrow night. Thank you guys for joining us. Peace.

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