Nightcap Hour 2: Stephon Marbury WALKS ON Knicks COURT + Timberwolves FEAR Ant Man REQUESTING TRADE + Thunder EXPECTED to TRADE into Top 10 + Dennis Schroder’s SIGNATURE Candy + Eagles’ Noland Smith ARRESTED + Marshall Faulk on BLACK COACHES Finding JOBS

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 2

Date: May 21, 2026
Host: Chad Ochocinco Johnson, ISO Joe Johnson, Joe Johnson (Occasional Appearances by Shaquille O'Neal)
Episode Focus:
A wide-ranging, high-energy sports roundtable covering the latest NBA and NFL rumors, memorable player moments, team maneuverings, and deep conversation on social issues in sports—always through unfiltered, insightful, and humorous banter between hosts and guests.

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Episode Overview

This episode delivers a fast-paced mix of analysis, storytelling, breaking news, and candid locker-room talk. Topics span NBA playoff drama (including the viral Stephon Marbury Knicks incident and Thunder’s draft strategy), the Timberwolves’ anxiety over Anthony Edwards’ future, a candid discussion on player empowerment, NFL and NCAA coaching inequities, shoutouts to fan questions, and signature humor around sports culture and lifestyle.

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Main Discussion Points and Insights

1. Stephon Marbury’s Viral Knicks Court Walk

• Event Recap: After a clutch Jalen Brunson basket, Stephon Marbury jumped onto the Knicks court during the excitement and later issued a formal apology on social media, admitting he “got swept up in the current like a plastic bag” and “lost [his] mind and [his] feet carried me somewhere it didn’t belong.” (02:52)
  • Hosts’ Reactions: The guys agree Marbury gets a pass, highlighting the passion of hometown stars and the electric atmosphere at Madison Square Garden.
    • “We can excuse that with him.”—Joe Johnson (04:29)
    • “If the Knicks just so happen to make it to the Finals… bring the National Guard.”—ISO Joe (05:05)
• Memorable Moment: Hosts reminisce about NYC hoops culture, Rucker Park, and how former players keep the game’s community alive.

2. Timberwolves’ Fear Over Anthony Edwards

• Report: Minnesota reportedly fears Anthony Edwards could eventually request a trade, with chatter about moving to the Eastern Conference if the league expands. (08:18)
  • “You need to consider building what he needs around [him] to be able to compete in the goddamn…”—Joe Johnson (09:38)
• Trade & Team Building Talk:
  • Timberwolves would love to add Giannis; the possibility and required package are debated.
  • “Giannis holds all the cards… I’m not trading for him unless he’s willing to sign a long-term deal.”—Chad (13:59)
  • Discussion of NBA player power versus NFL/guaranteed money and how stars can force moves.

3. Thunder’s Ambitious Draft Move

• Inside Scoop: Thunder may try to package picks (12, 17, 37) to move into the Top 10, due to limited available roster spots. (19:20)
  • Breakdown of top prospects and how OKC’s brilliant trades (e.g., Paul George deal) transformed the franchise:
    • “You gave—not only did you give them Shai—you gave them four first, four unprotected draft picks...you never know what a trade will do to a young player. I got traded my rookie year… It makes you lock in.” —ISO Joe (21:29, 21:57)
  • Reflection on Shai Gilgeous-Alexander's rise and motivation to "win the trade."

4. Lifestyle & Locker Room Banter

• Fun Tangent: The hosts riff on cowboy boots, Houston nightlife, and favorite jeans, relating it all to sports culture and camaraderie. (25:00-34:00)
  • “I got a pair of white snakeskin. I’m ready to wear, boy.”—Joe Johnson (28:00)
• Signature Candy Segment: Discussing if Dennis Schroder has a candy brand and what their own would be:
  • “Mine gonna be called Jawbreaker.”—Chad (37:22)
  • “Ocho Bar. …Cheeky Chews.”—ISO Joe (38:22, 38:31)

5. NFL Segment: Nolan Smith’s Speeding Arrest

• Story: Eagles’ Nolan Smith arrested for speeding (137 in a 70).
  • “Anything over 100 miles an hour or 30 miles an hour over the speed limit is considered reckless driving.”—Chad (41:12)
  • Open discussion on why young athletes love fast cars, citing Georgia Bulldogs' seeming annual run-ins with speeding laws. (41:28)
  • Advice on safety and sharing personal stories with fast cars.

6. Marshall Faulk Calls Out Racial Disparities in Coaching

• Key Stats: Out of 136 major college football teams, only 13 had Black head coaches (down from 17 in 2011). Only 1 out of 34 in Power conferences. (45:52)
  • Faulk: “Football is the only sport where the players struggle to come off the field and become coaches… Matt Ryan can be a GM. Why do no other players get to jump through that, jump through hoops to be a GM?” (45:52)
• Panel Reaction:
  • “We gotta have like 15 years of experience…and then get to be assistant, assistant to the assistant of the GM and work your way through.” —Chad (47:37)
  • “They want people that look like them … more like-minded.” —Joe Johnson (47:54)
• Comparison of NBA/NFL Opportunities: Points out Steve Nash and JJ Redick’s seamless NBA hires compared to hurdles Black former pros face.

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Listener Interaction & Q&A (57:35—End)

• Birthday Shoutouts (57:48): Listeners’ family birthdays acknowledged.
• Basketball Qs:
  • Spurs/Thunder playoff tactics—foul trouble strategies, officiating inconsistencies (esp. around Wemby and Hartenstein) (59:01, 60:20).
  • Classic who-would-you-pick debates:
    • “If you had to choose between Wemby and SGA to start a franchise?” → All pick Wemby, as he’s “like nothing the NBA has seen before.” (75:09)
    • Tayshaun Prince vs. Michael Redd debate ties into what each team truly needs. (67:44–70:17)
• Locker Room Memories: Ochocinco’s old touchdown celebrations and facing physical coverage.
  • “Rasheed Mathis was very good, especially impressed…once he get his hands on you, you’re done.” (84:09)
• Panel’s Candidness: Frequent acknowledgment of cussing as “sentence enhancers” and part of the show’s authenticity and flavor.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Fan Passion:
  • “If the Knicks just so happen to make it to the finals…bring the National Guard.” – ISO Joe (05:05)
• NBA Player Leverage:
  • “Money is power… the less you have, the less power. The more, the more... We see who gets to pull the strings.” – Chad (10:14)
• On Expansion/Realignment:
  • “They want to move to the Eastern Conference.…just slide Minnesota over when Seattle or Vegas joins.” – Chad (08:18)
• On Racial Inequity in Coaching:
  • “We’re not getting those jobs. We gotta…work your way up. Everything Faulk said was right.” – Chad (47:37)
  • “They want people that look like them. That’s the way it’s always been.” – Joe (47:54)
• On Choosing Wemby Over SGA:
  • “We’ve seen a few SGAs… but never a Wemby.” – Joe (75:09)

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Miscellaneous & Entertainment

• Cowboy Boot Showdown: Extended joking about boots, jeans, belt buckles, and old-school brands like Red Monkey and True Religion.
• Houston Clubs & Lifestyle: Animated suggestions for a show trip and memories of NBA nightlife (25:36).
• Signature Candy Names: Freeform, silly brainstorming—Cheeky Chews, One Eye Os, Ocho Bar.

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Final Words & Endnote

• Game Reaction: Closing thoughts on the Thunder tying their series with the Spurs 1–1 and the major impact of bench contributions and late-game injuries. (86:20–End)
• Podcast & Brand Promo: Fans encouraged to vote for Nightcap in Hashtag Sports Awards, and hit subscribe/like.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Stephon Marbury/Knicks Court Incident: 02:52–05:40
• Anthony Edwards Trade Fear & Timberwolves/Expansion Talk: 08:18–14:48
• Thunder Draft Strategy/SGA Trade Reflection: 19:20–23:14
• Lifestyle Banter (Boots, Houston, Candy): 25:00–34:00, 37:07–38:31
• Nolan Smith Speeding Arrest/NFL Fast Cars: 41:44–44:28
• Marshall Faulk on Black Coaches & Leadership Roles: 45:52–53:11
• Fan Q&A (NBA Playoffs, Player Debates, Birthday Shoutouts): 57:35–86:20
• Final Spurs/Thunder Game Takeaways: 86:20–89:48

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Tone and Language

The show is relaxed, playful, and direct—full of locker-room humor and honesty. Hosts use casual language, cussing at will to emphasize points (“cursing is a sentence enhancer”), all while offering sharp, credible insight into the business and culture of professional sports.

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For Listeners

This episode is a rollercoaster of inside jokes, sharp sports wisdom, and honest takes on the state of basketball, football, and life as high-profile athletes—recommended for fans who appreciate authenticity, laughter, and real talk about the sports world’s triumphs and inequities.

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

Man, you know what? I seen this during the game, but hell, I'm be honest with you. I ain't know it was stiff. I seen him come on the floor, but I ain't gonna lie. I probably would have lost it too, a little bit. The comeback them boys made.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The Hog did something like that. You sit down there, Joe. You going, what? Hey, hey, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey. Hey, Joe. He came on the floor. I. They didn't show that on the TV copy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I seen him come out there, but I didn't know that was him.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, the game was over at that point, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, that was what you call him. That was. That was the. The tie. The game wasn't the joke.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they came.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

When they made that run and came

[Joe Johnson]

back and he was hyped, boy. He left, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He lost.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Absolutely. He was.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He got outside his body a little bit. It's okay. Still. Hey, we know it happened from time to time. Playboy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

A native. I mean, the dude from Coney island, he grew up in New York. He's been a Knicks fan.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Come on, man. And.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And to see the team that you. That you grew up rooting for, that you played for and to be able to, man, hell yeah, we can excuse.

[Joe Johnson]

We can excuse that with him.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I mean, think about it, bro. I mean, that's like the Mecca hoops for real. You know what I mean? That's. That's why I ain't gonna lie. When I be watching the Knicks play, I enjoy seeing a lot of the former guys there.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

A lot do have them back. Oh, man, you see all. You see all the old guys back,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

man, that's, that's, that's. That's a beauty, bro. That's. That's enjoyable to watch. Because you gotta understand, bro, just cause these guys aren't playing don't mean that they don't still love and enjoy watching the game. They do. You know, going into that. Going into that historic building. Come on, bro. And look, they know if the Knicks just so happen to make it to the finals. Oh my God. Bring the National Guard. Fellas. I'm talking about just. If they get there, they gonna be there.

[Joe Johnson]

I told you that already.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

If, if, if the Knicks win it. Well, the King of New York, that's Jalen Brunson, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What?

[Joe Johnson]

You don't have to pay for nothing no more, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Jaylen Brunson. Jalen Brunson gonna be up there. He gonna be up there with a. With Derek Jeter.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Eli.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Yeah, Yeah, I just. I just thought about some boy jog remembering. You got me thinking back too. You talk about New York being the Mecca of basketball. I'm talking about that time I played. I played on Rucker park with. With Mellow.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, did you?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Man, What'd you do?

[Joe Johnson]

Them boys out there doing all them damn tricks and man. Yeah, yeah, it was too fast for me. I'm gonna. Just be honest. I'm beyond. It would move too fast.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

When was this?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, damn. What year that was? I gotta. I gotta ask. Hello.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

May. It was made, probably. May. Like probably not. Probably like June, July.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm dead at. I'm dead ass. I'm dead. It's off season. Hey, hey, Joe. I ain't never seen that many people, man, on, on the park. What?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I know they don't play. They don't play by their hoops in the park. Yeah, they don't play about that in New York.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, I like, I like to see when, when football teams, Joe, A lot of those guys. Oo, you know, they. They bring the guys back and the guys, the alumni. I think the Broncos have something every. A lot of the weeks where the alumni come back. Yeah, the Ravens. I know the Ravens are bigger than that, cuz the Ravens just had a. It was the 25th anniversary. No, well, I think they just had something for the. Yeah, it was the 25th anniversary of the Super Bowl.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And they gave every Bronco. Bronco. Every Raven player a Letterman jacket name. Super Bowl 35. Oh, they, they, they, they. Yeah, they, they, they trying to. I know you watching because you watch all the time. Where my jacket, man, I know you got a lot going on. Yeah. He gonna say, boy, don't you know I got other stuff to go? Yes, I know you got other stuff going on. Can I get my jacket? That's All.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Thank you. Hey, listen, they've been doing. They've been doing a pretty good job here in Atlanta, bro. Trying to keep us all together, these former guys. Yeah, I enjoy it too. You know, we.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We get to.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

We do functions and different events together.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Even with the Hawks, with the players. So that's, that's always dope. You know, I think the older we get, like I say, I still love and enjoy being around the game. I still love playing the game. I still love the training, the workout regimen and just, you know, lending the ear to these young cats, bro, and helping them out, you know, in times of need. Because a lot of them are being thrust into these different situations and it's hard to handle, bro. But if you can take advice from somebody who's been there and done that and kind of ease a little bit of what you're going through, you know, I think it can help. I think it goes a long way. So I, I appreciate it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. So, yeah, we. We understand, Steph. They probably said, don't let that happen again. Minnesota Timberwolves ultimate fear is Anthony Edwards requesting a trade played Darren Wolfson. It's about satisfying ant. The fear is that at some point does aunt, through his representation, Bill Duffy and others signal a desire to be elsewhere. We are nowhere near that point, but the fear is there. The Timberwolves are also looking to move to the Eastern Conference. Oh, damn. Yes, they want to be in the Eastern Conference, but that's still a few years out of even happens. So the next few years, how do they compete with the spurs and the Thunder? You need another superstar. They would love to acquire Giannis. Hey, look, I guess they're saying like when the Seattle come or the team in Vegas come, that'll be two teams. You know what I'm saying, Joe? That's Western Conference. And so now just slide Minnesota to the Eastern Conference. I think that's. That's kind of the, the, the avenue and that's kind of what they're trying. That's what they trying to do. But like they said, that's.

[Joe Johnson]

Why would they even be thinking about that anyway, huh? And Joe, why would they even thinking about him actually want to want to ask for a trade right now? You need to. Right now you need.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You have to take that, you have to take that into consideration.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't worry about consideration right now. Consider building what he needs around to be able to compete in the goddam. I mean.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, that's what. That's kind of what they saying. They saying that they got. They Got to bring in another guy. Yeah. Yeah. Who.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Who can.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Who can take some of that. Who can take some of that load off of. Off young fella, because you know how it is. Man 1 hey, you let a. You let a guy get to, you know, a year left in his contract. Two years left in his contract. Basketball different for football. Guys can force their way out.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Cause y'. All.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Y'.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all got F you money. Joe, It's a little different, man. Y' all control. Y' all control.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, they got guaranteed money.

[Joe Johnson]

Guaranteed. Me F you.

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Yeah. So once I get guaranteed and see, that's what, you know, that's what, you know, the NFL is afraid of, because money is power.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And the less you have of it, the less power you have. The more you have of it, the more power you have. We see who gets to pull the strings. X, Y and Z over here, over there, and so forth and so on. We don't got to get into it, but we can see. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And that's how it worked. That's how it is. So it's going to be. Timberwolves president of basketball operation Tim Conley finally broke his silence on Julius Randall backlash on what Minnesota players to do this offseason. We know our competition is not going to sit still and nor will we. If we mess up, we'll mess up loudly. We're going to try to be as aggressive as possible. Conley said that the loss to the spurs was because the team struggles as a whole and not just Randalls. We don't win because of one player, lose because of one player. I think we lost in the fashion we lost to San Antonio. They were clearly the better team, and we have to look at it collectively, me included, the whole building. What can we do all. What can we all do better to ensure that we don't see the same results next season? Joe, you hear the previous paragraph, previous statement I made. They would love to get their hands on Giannis. Can they put a package together to satisfy Milwaukee with players Currently it's Julius Randle. I don't know. Terry Shannon, I don't know. Maybe. Maybe you might have. You might have to give up a Jade McDaniels. Is there a package that they can put together to satisfy Milwaukee as far as players that can play right now and draft draft capital so we can build for the future also but be competitive with the players that we get?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I think they got some great pieces to send to Milwaukee, but I do not want Jaden Daniels to be a Part of that, you know, maybe you. Maybe you resign. IO signing trade. I mean, I would love for Minnesota to be able to keep him, but here, if we gonna go get Giannis, then you probably gonna have to give him up. You probably gonna have to give up Go Bear. You probably gonna have to give up two of them Bigs. Actually, I'm saying Go Bear, Nas Reed or Julius Ramon. You probably gonna have to give up two of them.

[Joe Johnson]

If anything, it would be Go Bear.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So give them the choice.

[Joe Johnson]

Julius Randall and Go Bear. Nas Reed ain't going nowhere.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He might have to. Because I don't believe they won't not. I don't believe they won't. Rudy Gobert, Julius Randall.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right. But if you throw some picks in there and maybe that young boy Shannon.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Well, how many picks they got considering they gave up five first rounds to get a Rudy Gobert? So how many they got? What they gonna get it with, Joe? Like them old people should say, the south, what we gonna get it with? Ass and mouth.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Listen, this is why I say. That's why I say they gonna have to probably do a sign and trade with the young fella, IO the Samu. You know, because he showed. He showed, you know, a lot of great promise throughout this postseason. Now, if I'm Minnesota, I would like to keep him around, but I think he gonna demand so much money that you're gonna have to get rid of him. And if you can get rid of them and go get Giannis, package up a deal to where you give up, maybe him, Shannon. And like I said, you probably gonna have to give up Go Barrel, Randall, if not both. Because if I'm Minnesota, I know you want him bad like that. I'm trying to squeeze in and everything up out of you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You mean Milwaukee?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Milwaukee. Yeah, Yeah, I agree.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And that's the thing, because first of all, Giannis holds all the cards.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know why? Because he's going into the last year of his deal.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And I'm not trading for him unless he's willing to sign a long term deal. Because I'd be damn if I'm gonna give up what I'm gonna give up. And I only got it for a year.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. So he's gonna say, you try to trade him somewhere he don't want to go. He's just gonna tell the team I ain't signed no long term deal.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what's funny is I. I mean. I mean no disrespect, and I didn't really say anything because of dialogue, and I Love the context in which we're talking about and, and him being able to come to know Minnesota to be able to help. Goddamn my young boy, Anthony Edwards. But as I've told y', all, I think during the season, early in the season, that Giannis was already searching for a house down here in Miami. I just didn't want to mess up the conversation. So he will be down here in Miami and when it does happen, I told you know, at my sources, I'm, you know, you know, just for the.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So hold on. So Miami getting him and Ja.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm not sure about. John, I'm not sure about your situation, but Giannis is damn near and isn't is in the bag because like the realtor who's looking for the house. You know what, I don't want to spill too much, too much beans, but you know, they, they house shopping and, and all that. So, you know, hey, hey, Joe, you got to think about it. No, I know I play around a lot, but ain't too many times I've been wrong. But when it comes to predicting and telling y' all where people are going because of the conversation I had behind

[ISO Joe Johnson]

closed doors, what you had, what, what, what, what prediction you made that was right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

A lot.

[Joe Johnson]

A lot of them.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Name one.

[Joe Johnson]

I can't even name off the top of my head. I'm sure I can recall on some of the stuff that I've said was going to happen, especially like you losing every playoff series to me. That's just. That just. That's.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Come on, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm just saying that's a small sample size, Joe, as opposed to other.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I had, I. I had this. This. You said you acting like I already lost this OKC and spur. Like this is. This is going to be a pretty good series.

[Joe Johnson]

I knew one beautiful heavyweight round fight. It's going to be a good seven rounds, yo, but I'm telling you, who going to stand victorious and hold their hands up like goddamn Ali, huh? I'm telling you who it's going to be.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

But again, you don't really have the kind of ball knowledge I do when it comes to basketball. So I understand.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, get your mans, bruh.

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The reports are the Thunder are are expected to try and trade their picks 12, 17 and 37 to try to move into the top 10. OKC only has one roster spot available and wouldn't be able to offer all three draft. Wouldn't be able to draft all three players. Oh, Joe, I don't know if you can see it, but right now the mock drafts have debonza at one.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Peterson. I see it, Cam.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, Cam Boozer, Caleb Wilson, Keaton Wagler, Kingston Fleming, Darius Auff Jr. Brandon Buries, Mikhail Brown and Nate Amit. And you see the. The Dominican LeBron J. Lindenberg.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. So hold on. You saying they gonna trade they.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They picks that they have because they can. They only got one roster spot, so they couldn't draft them all if they wanted to.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, so they. They got to get up off them. Got to and to move up to go get what though what you. I mean, you ain't gonna move.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You can.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They ain't gonna be able to move into the top five.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You wanna move into the top ten,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

they'll move into the top ten.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Cause they got 12, 17 and 37, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn. Yeah, it don't matter. It just seemed like whoever the Thunder draft, here they come. Fit right in seamlessly. I mean, you playing with some great professionals who you'll be able to learn from. You look at all these guys outside of the Lindenberg Cat, who's 23. Hell, these dudes young as, I don't know what, 19, 18. Yeah. They got some guy, they got some guys gonna be around for a while and you want to be able to learn, you know, and gain experience from guys who's been there before. Yeah. Oh, well, we'll see. They moving to the top 10. Okay. See cheating over there.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, they said thank you, Paul George. Thank you. Clippers couldn't have done it without you. I mean, Joe, that's it. That's what happened.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You gave. Not only did you give them Shay, you gave them four first four unprotected draft picks. And it would.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It really wouldn't be much of a problem if Paul George went to the Clippers and him and Kawhi had ended up winning one.

[Joe Johnson]

Just one, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Now you know it all worth it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It had been all worth it. But the fact that they never Got close. I think this is why, you know, you. You see and hear much of the drawback. Like, basically people saying it wasn't worth it. But at the time, Shea was not who he is today, fellas.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And you never know what it's like from a player who gets traded early in their career and how it changes their whole mindset. I've been there, bro. I got traded my rookie at six months in, made the All Star rookie game and everything. Uncle Ocho, they traded me right after All Star break. And that's because you created a little value for yourself. But you don't really know. You just hooping, playing, having a good time, you know, enjoying the American dream from when you was a kid, bro. Just to even be in the league was like, damn, I can't even believe I still had to pinch myself from time to time. You know what I mean? But to get traded early in your career, it does something to you, bro. It make you lock in a little more. Because for me, the last thing. Yeah. The last thing I ever wanted to be in the NBA was a journeyman. I ain't want to be one of those guys. Played 12 years, played for eight different teams. Hell, no. You know what I mean? Like, so to be able to get somewhere and stick, like, you could tell, Shay took all that personal, bro. Look, hell, he didn't got two MVPs, won the title. I mean, he.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He's.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He's super succeeding expectations at this point.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He said, I wanted to be. I wanted to make sure the Thunder won the trade. They did.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. No question they did. No question. They got a title out of here.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes. And I don't think anybody. If you talk about a trade, it's not Kareem, because clearly the Lakers won that trade. Yeah, the Lakers won that trade.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You talk about three MVPs and five titles. The Lakers won that, but I don't know what they gave up unless they gave up the Hollywood side and part of Beverly Hills. Y' all lost. And guess what? Milwaukee about to get screwed again. Think about it. Your two best players, your two best players say, you know what?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, if I'm Milwaukee, I gotta do whatever I can to retain some great valuable pieces because ain't nobody coming sign here in. In the off season.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, you gonna have to. You gotta be. It's like San Antonio now. San Antonio. I will give San Antonio credit because what did they do? They did get lamarcus Al come. Yeah, it was the biggest free agent at the time.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I think he's from Texas, though.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So when you look at it from that standpoint. But as far as, like, man, ain't nobody going to San Antonio. That's why they got a draft for Duncan and a Manu and a Parker and a Kawhi and a Wimby and a Castle and a Harper. You gotta hit. Cause you're not gonna get nobody. You don't have that luxury. Like the Lakers.

[Joe Johnson]

They've been hitting, too.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. But hell, I tell you what. They ain't gonna have no problem getting no damn talent in San Antonio now. Everybody won't play with Wimby Hill.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What? You're right. There's still no San Antonio, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I know, I know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But, hey, hey.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No state tax.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It ain't Houston.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, but you still. Hey, hey, you get you a good bang for your buck?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. I mean, I could go to Houston in the off season. But you know, I'm just saying, right? I'm just saying I can't go to Houston.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Always bringing up Houston, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't understand why y' all so scared of Houston.

[Joe Johnson]

You've been there. You know why?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I ain't scared. I'm petrified.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Man. I love Houston, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I think you do. I love. I, I. I love Houston, too.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm thinking. I'm thinking we all can go down there and hang out. Me, you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The folks looking. They want to see y', all, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I know they do, man. Man, me and Ocho have such a great. Man, the people. You don't know how many people to. Man, when y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

When y'. All. When. Nightcap on the road. When y' all come back to Houston stage. Yo, hey, I like my boy D. Never.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, but Houston ain't for the week, bro. You hear me?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's what I'm saying. Hey, look, man, y' all have been around enough. Y' all have been around the block. Y' all have seen a little bit of everything. Look, it don't. It don't hurt you to look at the menu. You ain't got to order nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't gonna order nothing. But just the fact, if you can keep yourself from having a look at the menu, you'll be better off.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, damn. I mean, you still human. You still a man.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, and that's the problem. Yeah, that's the problem. So what do I do? You keep yourself. You keep yourself out of those environments so you don't have no issues.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Come on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, but, hey, Joe, we can go to Area 29 if you want to you know how I do security up there in Houston?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to see. But you are saying when I go

[Joe Johnson]

to, when I'm in Houston, I do security at Area 29. That's like one of my jobs.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I remember you was on, you did nightcap from up there, didn't you?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, I got a little part time job there. Yeah, yeah, you know, just can't know anybody. Just know anybody going in and film, Joe. Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm part of the staff.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

we gotta, it's gotta be, it's gotta be in and out, though. Land at 5 o', clock, we down, boom, we back up first thing in the morning. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Don't he talk about no Friday? No Friday to Sunday.

[Joe Johnson]

That is an absolute, you know, hey, you can't leave. You can't. I forgot how to say and go. But you can't leave Houston on Sunday. You can leave any day, but you can't leave on Sunday.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Cause all the brunch and everything. You're right, you're right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, come on, man. Come on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You talk about, you talking about for Friday to Monday?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, that'd be, that'd be nice.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Come on, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe, I got some boots too, boy. I got some boots and some.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I got some too, bro. I got some, I got some, I got some brown, I got these brown cowboy boots. I've been waiting to pull them out.

[Joe Johnson]

I got, I got a pair. I got a pair of white, white snakeskin. I'm, I'm ready to wear, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm ready.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm ready. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, I got him.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You got boost too.

[Joe Johnson]

You got boots.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I got, I got a pair of black horn toe gators and I got a pair of black horn back gators.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Come on, man, what are we waiting on?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I got a black pair and I got a car.

[Joe Johnson]

I can show y' all my boots or not. Let me say. Hey, hey, Joe. Watch my boo, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Let me see what you got going. Look, look. Getting my damn hopes up high. And you and uncle ain't talking about nothing. I already know, though, Houston. Hey, I told you know I played for the Rockets for like three months. Well, I, I, I know.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I know.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, he had a funky good time right there. You hear me? Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. When I'm talking about, you talking about some guys who parted hard, that James Harden and that P.J. tucker, you don't hang with them. You don't want to hang with them boys, then it's got to be certain. Limits to certain, you know what I mean? Oh, them nice old Jake,

[Joe Johnson]

he called me 8500. What? Hey, see, I. I ain't wearing yet. I'm brand new.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Did you. You got. You got. You need, you got. You feel anything, hit you in the back of the head. That was the change.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you like these?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I like snake. I don't have anything.

[Joe Johnson]

You gotta get you some of these, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I just got. I got gator. I mean, I thought about getting some boa.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

A pipe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Those might be.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, y' all can still smell a snake on here, too, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. You can't. Hey, you. You can't wait to bust, Put some

[Joe Johnson]

blue jeans on with it, you know, Shirt in with my big belt buckle. Then I'm gonna have a handkerchief hanging in the back.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Hey, what? Hey. Hey, I'm ready to line dance, Joe. You're not lying there.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, you got.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. Hey, hey, hey, hey.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Hey, look, I'm looking for a good time, fellas. Man, I don't know what's wrong with you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Joe. Joe, we can have a good time in the A. Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

We can do that line dancing with no cowboy boost in Atlanta.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Anybody trying to line those damn lying dance, man, me and Joe having a good time. I'll be. Hey, Joe. I'll be. I'll be in there about two weeks. Joe. We go. Hey, we go do something, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All right. Best say the last. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Oo, how you doing?

[Joe Johnson]

Where y' all going?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ain't no telling.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Make a couple stop.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, matter of fact, hey, if between June and July, I ain't gonna be able to go nowhere because I'm gonna be at the World Cup.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Are you ready to go then?

[Joe Johnson]

Boy, Joe, I'm. Hey, boy, I'm gonna hit every city possible. I don't care how much flights are. I got tickets to every game, too.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You ain't playing. So what are y' all playing?

[Joe Johnson]

What?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What our city's playing. I know. It's one here in Atlanta.

[Joe Johnson]

Miami, Atlanta, Houston, New York, New Jersey, Canada, Mexico City, Kansas City, Louisiana. It's 11 host cities, and, boy, but my sky miles gonna be crazy. I'm kind of mad. Spirit ain't working. But, I mean, Frontier gonna have to do.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hopefully they can transfer your miles. No, but I got. I got. Joe, you got some cowboy boots?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Let me put my boots on. Hey, hey, hey.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, what you think about my leopard Pants and my boots.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Nah, you got. You gotta throw them damn lepers out. Listen. Yeah, Nah, throw the lepers out, bro. It's over with.

[Joe Johnson]

Cheated, Joe. Hey, I got you a pair.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, you need to break those boots in before you wear them because they're gonna tell your damn.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm break them in with that swing. Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, here you go.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, you're gonna be slip sliding all over the place. You got to go scratch them up.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. Huh? Wait. What kind of jeans you wear with your boots, Joe? Levi's. Aria. Is it Aria. How you say it? What's the.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I just got me some. I just got some Hudson.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But I do have Levi.

[Joe Johnson]

I got some Levi with my. I got him creased up real heavy, though.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. With these dark denim.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I might wear some Red Monkey with red.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Red Monkey, you.

[Joe Johnson]

Back in the day. Red monkey. You still got some of that?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I still got. I still got my.

[Joe Johnson]

I bet you ain't got no Evizu.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I do got it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I remember that, boy. That's back in the day, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Red monkey and true religion.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. I ain't seen no truth coming back. They coming back hard, Joe, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. True religion coming back hard. Yes, absolutely. Yes, yes, absolutely. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I've been out the loop, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yep.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I got me a couple. I got a couple hard denims, you know, I mean. Yeah, don't be right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I got me. I got me an lv. I got me an LV jean suit that I could bust out. Yeah, that one that I wore.

[Joe Johnson]

The lady again.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You can't wear that with no cowboy boost, though.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes, you can.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you ain't got the cut. Ain't even right for no cowboy boots.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You could. Ocho. You could wear. Hey, I got some. I got some Gucci boots.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, he ready. Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. See you. You miss. You missed the fashion, Joe. Hey, I'm trying to look like a black cowboy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It won't do Dennis Schroeder have a signature candy in Germany?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

A signature candy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

If you had your own candy, what would it be called?

[Joe Johnson]

That's a good one. That's a good question. I had a signature candy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Mine gonna be called Jawbreaker.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's already a jawbreaker. You got to come up with something else.

[Joe Johnson]

If I had a candy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, what about the candy?

[Joe Johnson]

That's a good question. I mean, whatever my candy is, the name would have to. Would have to fit. Fit my personality.

[Shaquille O'Neal (Superhuman Shaq)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Milk Dud already gone.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Gone out of there.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, raising that is already gone, too.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Raising that go. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn. I'm trying to think.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We Hershey Kiss is gone. Man, they done took all the damn good names.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, what would it be?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, well, hell, you gotta call it something. What you gonna call it? Ocho Candy. It's gonna be something chocolate.

[Joe Johnson]

The Ocho Bar.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Ocho Bar probably have something like the. Some Cheeky Chews.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Cheeky Chews.

[Joe Johnson]

And. And the name got to be catchy, too, so it got to be something catchy. That makes sense. Oh, One Eye O's.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

One Eye O.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, you had some of the One Eye O's yet? Yeah, them good.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Get it, B. Now, you know what, guys? I. I got a couple of names, but I'm gonna go on and sit this one out.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Why is it. Give her one, give her one. Give one.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Give away. Give. What are you doing, man?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Try them boots on here. He trying to see how they look with that. With that level. Come on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Lord have mercy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The leopard.

[Joe Johnson]

The.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The lever throwing me off.

[Joe Johnson]

Yo, this is Cheetah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Learn your prince, Cheetah. It's.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's too busy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's too busy with them booze, bro. They throwing me out.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that's. That's what my baby say. She said I'd be too busy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You have a jean shirt.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You gonna have a jean shirt on with your jeans. So you gonna be like a real cowboy.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey, my belt buckle and all, you know I got a diamond belt buckle. Yeah, I'm gonna be clean now. Let me know where we going.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So you got one of the more big hooks.

[Joe Johnson]

It ain't that big now. It ain't that big because I don't. I don't want to take away from the outfit. You don't want your belt buckle too big because it's all about pieces and make my statement pieces. My boots and my belt buckle.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Gotta have A belt. But you gotta have that big belt buckle.

[Joe Johnson]

Not that big. I don't want. I don't want to overdo it, man. Cause I'm not a big person.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And them cowboys are smaller than you. You remember how small John was? Yeah, they are.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they are.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That dude, he 135 pounds. 140, tops.

[Joe Johnson]

I know one thing. I can't wait to ride this goddamn bull, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, well, let me know.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna pray for you.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe, you got to pray for me. You might want to pray for the bull.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All right. Eagle Star pass rusher Nolan Smith was arrested for allegedly speeding and reckless driving. Port Georgia Gazette Smith was booked in Twiggs County Jail after reportedly going 137 in a 70. Damn. Wait, what is it about 137? Well, he might lose his license with that one.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That might.

[Joe Johnson]

He got arrested because at that point, it's reckless driving, endangering everyone else on the road.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Anything over 100 miles an hour or 30 miles an hour on the speed limit is considered driving.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What year.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What year is this for young, young boy?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What, his third, third, fourth?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What's up, man? What's up with these guys with this need for speed?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Gotta guess what college the Georgia Bulldogs player. Because it seems like every year there's two, three, four guys getting arrested for excessive speeding. And considering some of the things that have happened.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, you would. 137. Like I said, these kids don't fear it.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, what you think you were driving, huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Probably a scat pack. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

37. And you had to be in some

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

when, you know, you and in Twigs county, bro, that. That ain't no interstate. Twigs County. That's country.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's probably why he thought he could do it. Damn, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't think people. I don't think people know how. How fast. 137 miles.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on. Especially if you're driving something where you can get the 137 and don't even realize how fast you got them going, too.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Nah, bro. Hey, you going 137, you trying to go 100. Damn. 30.

[Joe Johnson]

But I'm saying, Joe, some of them cars so powerful, especially that young bulls be getting, but you get the 137, don't even realize you at 137 that you look at that damn dash.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, it's only like 8, 000 people. That's. It's in central Georgia,

[Joe Johnson]

man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I just. I. I don't know what it is about these Bulldogs players and this need for Excessive speed especially. It's like two, three, four guys every year gets arrested for excessive speeding, and you've had an incident where someone has even lost their lives, and it's still not enough to deter you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, you know, there's some Y ends out here, man. Ain't. Hey,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I got that today. Hey, it stopped me once I got them ticket. Talking about taking my license like, nah, I need these.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey, it'll slow you down.

[Joe Johnson]

You know what's funny? And I'm thinking about it, and I, I made a comment about getting the 137 and not knowing it. You know, based on the vehicles that I've owned, Joe. You know, Lamborghinis, Ferraris. Hell, that, that year, I think in whatever, 2010, 2011, at least the Bugatti for a year, Joe. You can get to 137. Don't even realize it, Joe. Especially depending on what you driving.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, we, I don't want to drive it.

[Joe Johnson]

Nice, nice, Joe. You, you got to experience it one time, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm good.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I ain't no real need for speed. I like, I like. Now, don't get me wrong. I like to be in something that can go fast. Ocho. But you ain't, But I ain't never gonna, I ain't never gonna test it. You know, I might, you know, I might, you know, get up through the, you know, in nine in. But, yeah, no, sir, I don't even.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't enjoy. Out of all of the foreign cars I had that, that where it's about speed. I ain't got no speeding tickets because I pick and choose when to push the envelope. It's not something I did all the time.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. I've never gotten a speeding ticket in something that, that was built for speed.

[Joe Johnson]

Same.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's my, it's, you know, Range Rover or PM BMW or something.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And it's at 10:41 at night. It's not. Do you know, man, first of all, even in the broad daylight, when you go that fast, it look like everything is just even check lines and the

[Joe Johnson]

road like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Look, I, I, I'm, I'm. I was like, man. And I rem. I remember going, and I thought I was like, man, a bug hit my window. A bird hit my window. A, a, a blowout. It's over. Yeah, I broke it all the way down.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They don't take. But some. Yeah, it don't take numbers. Some small like that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, I'm good. Come on, fellas, be smart.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Be smart, fellas. Hey, hey, hey. Because think about it, you know, in, in the country, you know, in down south, you go down them road, man, them big deers go to jumping out and all that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah, it's over.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's a rap. It's a

[Joe Johnson]

damn.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Marshall Spock had a strong opinion on black coaches trying to land football jobs. Out of 136 teams in major college football, only 30, only 13 have a black head coach, down from 17 out of 120 in 2011. Of the 34 head coaches in the NCAA Powerful Big Ten, Southeastern Conference, 33 are white. One, it's black. Football is the only sport where the players struggle to come off the field and become coaches. They look like us and they're successful at the game playing, then you won't be successful at the game in any other capacity. Falk named some examples. Matt Ryan was hired as the Falcons president of football operation this year without any front office experience. I'm just going to say what is. What is. Matt Ryan can be a gm. Why do no other players get to go through that, jump through hoops to be a gm? JJ Redick has never had coaching experience and get the Lakers job. Could Marshall Falk get the Rams job? Hell no. What is that? Falk noted that the Texans consider hiring Josh McCown as head coach in 2022 despite the lack of coaching experience. He also noted how Stefanski was just hired as the head coach with a worse record than the last coach that they fired, Raheem Morris. Stefanski went 5 and 12. Raheem went 8 and 9. He ain't lie. Nope. Y' all remember Matt Millen was an analyst. He got the GM job. Lions, we're not doing. We're not getting. We ain't no sense.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We're not getting those jobs. We're not getting no jobs. We gotta have like 15 years of experience. And you got to work, you got to be in the sky, you got to be a scout, you got to be an assistant, assistant to the assistant of the gm and then got to work your way through. We're not getting that. Marshall. Everything that you said was absolutely right, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

That's been that way for a very long time. We continue to fight that good fight for us to be afforded those positions, you know, to be leaders of men. But they just don't like us in said positions. They just don't. They just. Right. They want people that look like them. They want people more like minded like them. And that's the way it's always Been. It has been that way. Now, there have been certain situations where coaches have been fortunate and done well. They've done well in those positions and. And been able to hold them for a very long time. I mean, outside of that, it just. It is what it is. You know, it's not the elephant in the room. And sometimes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, shoot, man. Damn that. It happened in basketball, too.

[Joe Johnson]

Here. Oh, y' all get way more opportunities than we do in football.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, I'm saying. I'm saying my guy. My guy, Steve Nash got the head coaching job. Coaching Kyrie, and damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, no, you're not getting no job like that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You see what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No job like that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know, we. Jobs. We get. You get the Cardinals, you get. You get the Jets.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. You get the teams where you're gonna last maybe two, maybe three years.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

If that's.

[Joe Johnson]

You ain't getting no. You ain't getting a good job like

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

you get one situation where you got a mic.

[Joe Johnson]

I was just gonna say that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That got the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah. But more times than not, you got to go to the jets, you got to go to the Cardinals. You got to go. You got to go to a team now. They ain't rebuild. They ain't got no quarterback. You don't got no quarterback. And then, guess what? The moment you get fired, they go get a quarterback.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. Listen, you. You talk about JJ Reddick for the Lakers. Hell, look at Steve Kerr. Look what he inherited from and what it done for him. Yeah, come on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, and you just. You. You accept it. You know what it is? We're not. They say, look, they'll do everything. Like, oh, yeah, he's so. But we wanted someone with some experience. And then you turn around and do what? Hire somebody that ain't got no experience. We. This is the number one that they do us, Joe, in football. We want someone that have actually called the plays and then turn around and hire somebody that didn't call plays on the very staff and that. You said this guy didn't call plays, but you won't give him a job. But you gave the guy right there, right? Everybody that's under Andy Reddick ain't called no plays any. They don't call plays for Sean McVeigh, either. Sean McVeigh called the plays. Kyle Shanahan called the plays.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Now go back and look at the tree and look at all them guys that got jobs.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Come on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And now, you know the government don't put pressure on Them they don't did away with dei. Ain't no more Rooney rule. The Rooney rule was just off love. It was it. It meant well. They meant well with the Rooney rules. I know Mr. Rooney that instituted this. I understand it. Bill Nunn really built that Steelers organization with the drafting of the players, all those players he drafted. And so I understand in theory what he was trying to do. And it's not saying just hire somebody that because they're black. Because the fact of the matter is, I don't even think you'd be giving them a situation. And don't be using me as no token. Ocho, you remember when the Cowboys brought Marvin Lewis in there?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And you know, you know, I. I know Marvin before you did, but you know Marvin. You know damn well Marvin wasn't getting no damn job. And they bring black guys in just to say

[Joe Johnson]

that is something to get us to shut the hell up here. Damn. Y' all happy now?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

It's performative. All performative.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It is. It's a shame, too, though, Joe Ocho. I mean, I wish we. It's a shame, bro, but it is what it is. And. But I. But I get it. I. I get it. You hire people that, you know, you really do.

[Joe Johnson]

That's all it come down to.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

As. Because now people lie so much on it, man. They don't got this chat GPT. And they. Hey, they got these resumes, Joe. So. And. And oo. So impeccable. Oh, I could do. What is Chad gbt. What. What is this rolling title and what do I need to say on my resume?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right, Right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They hand it. God almighty. So you was a producer at 60 and 48 hours and you worked on ESPN. Oh, my goodness. Can't miss.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, who. Who the New Orleans Pelicans have.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, the guy from. What you call it? The guy from Jamal Mosley.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Did they.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, they did.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I wonder why they did that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What you mean, why they did that?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm saying, he.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You about why Orlando fired him.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, I know why they kind of fired him. It looked like they wanted to get rid of him. But what I'm saying is, if you got a guy. Meaning. Because I knew. I know Rondo was up for the job. I know that they was talking about bringing Rondo in. I'm saying, damn, man, you got to take some chances on some of these guys. I ain't saying Mosley didn't deserve a job, but damn, you can't take. You can't. You got a young team who I. I know they know who the hell Rondo is. They'll respect him. You can't give him a shot. That's all I'm saying. Uncle O. Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Nope. I agree to be the Hawks coach.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No. House got a good coach in Quinn Snyder. He's a good coach.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You play with Quinn in Utah, right, Joe? Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. That's my guy.

[Joe Johnson]

That's my guy on the roster, though.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Put me on the roster. Damn. If I get. If I get. If I get signed by the Hawks to be a assistant coach, I ain't gonna be able to sit on here and talk no junk with y'. All.

[Joe Johnson]

But we don't come out till late at.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Come on.

[Joe Johnson]

He played late at night, Ocho, man, you know. You know the hawks play, what, 7:30? Joe will be home by 11 o'. Clock.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Before we get on, Ocho, we got road games. You play at home. Travel. I ain't.

[Joe Johnson]

Yo, just take your laptop and camera. I set you up.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Y' all gonna be in the start. And we on the damn plane.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, I feel good, boy. I feel good.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

80.

[Joe Johnson]

Goddamn boost. Comfortable, boy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He ready?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Huh?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He ready.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, is he?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he ready. You know what he ready for, man?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, sit down.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm sitting down.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes. Before we get to the super chat, we got video one video voicemail from our Discord. Let's take a listen.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey what's up ocho? ISO Unc Man, I'm sitting here watching the spurs game hoping these spurs can mount this comeback. But if you guys don't mind, could you give four individuals in my household birthday shout out to I don't know how I end up like this, but I do have I do know how I end up like this. If you don't mind giving Ari Money and Junior belated birthday wish and my wife's birthday is Coming up on the 26th. Her name is Tinasha.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

If you don't mind giving her a birthday shout out as well.

[Joe Johnson]

Thank you, Tinasha. I forgot the other two.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ari, Money, Junior and Tinasha. So Ari Money and Junior, happy birthday. Happy birthday, Nasha. I guess it was her birthday. Well, those are belated birthdays, I think. To Nasha, birthday is today or coming up to you. So Ari, Money, Junior, Tinasha, happy birthday and congratulations, big fellow on the the nuptials.

[Joe Johnson]

Happy birthday, Zayden.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Phenom. Ref let OKC get away with too much guarding Wimby, especially Caruso, and him and Hartenstein should have been filed out by halftime. Hold up, guys. We know that is a big thing. How are they going to call the game? Are they going to let them play or are they going to call it? Now, normally they let them play a little. They let them play a little more in the postseason, but sometimes they can go overboard. So we'll see. I think game three, I think on, on Friday night, Joe. We'll see. And we're going to find out early on.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

How they're going to call the game.

[Joe Johnson]

Uncle Joe, this is not fair. This is not fair for players that play for the Thunder. Right? You look at, you look at the discrepancy and height and length that when we bring to the game. How do you stop him? They have to allow them players to do maybe a little bit more than they would other players that play the five or the goddamn four because of how big he is. So they got to allow him to play a little bit more aggressive, to

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

tug a little bit more. No, you can't. Well, let me ask you a question. Should they be allowed to hold Tyreek because he faster? Should they be allowed to hold him? Damn, he's faster than everybody else. Ain't nobody else on the field. Ain't nobody running like. I mean, you got to go back to lab. Olympic sprinters, Bullet, Bob Hayes and guys like that that could run like that. No, you can't do that. Yeah, I mean, and they did it with Shaq.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Because Shaq was so big. No, you can't do that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I think for the, for the Thunder, they just got to continue to do their work early. Meaning like, you know, before he gets inside the three point line, you want to bump and grind all the way till you get down. Now, listen, what they gonna be looking for is the holding and the grabbing, the little stuff that they missing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That look clutching like if I, if one of my teammates Driving. And I hold Wimby just a little. Just a half a second. They gonna be looking for that type of.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes. So grab the man here, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

How is that not a foul? Actually, that's a flagrant file because that's not a basketball player.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You said they grabbed what?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He grabbed a Castle's hair.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, Peter Ball said try it all, man. Hear me? Hey, Ocho, we trying to go to the finals. Hey, it's gonna be some. It's gonna be some discrepancies on some of these plays, bro. It's part of that Malcolm X.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

By any means necessary. People are saying the spurs don't need Fox. They do, though. Castle ain't ready to be the primary ball handler. And why, why?

[Joe Johnson]

Hello?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Why Hardenstein snatch Castle hair like that?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, hey. The way that boy. The way that boy poked that thing on Hardenstein. Hell. Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, you got bunnies, boy. It didn't even look like it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, Aug, I agree though. Right now he's really not ready to be the lead guard. But when you look at it, I like him at the two. Being a two way player. I like Harper as the lead guard if Fox ain't in there, you know what I mean?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, your camera, your camera crooked. There you go.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I like Harper. I like Harper at the lead guard versus Castle. But when Fox comes back. Yeah, when Fox comes back, he'll take a lot of money.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You put back. You put back to his normal spot.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Castle. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Where he's. To where he's a. A defender, obviously he's still gonna be able to attack. He's just not gonna have the ball in his hand.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn near turnovers away.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Brandon Martinez says you can't even touch OKC without the refs calling it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's all good. Get the win. It might be one and the only time. Let sp. Look, I. I think third. I, I think how they call the game early is going to really determine the outcome. Because if you're gonna let them play, this is OKC style.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to keep your bigs out of foul trouble early.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

See the thing is, if any team, the spurs or. Okay, see any of their bees getting fast, like if we catch two within six minutes of the first quarter here, they in trouble. Same thing with. Same thing with okc. Hardenstein a check catch, two fouls early in that first quarter. It just takes so much of your aggressiveness away that you're able to get pretty much whatever you want, you know what I mean?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But the problem is, is that if Hardenstein gets in trouble, you love to have him, but you're not looking him for the score. And Cornette hasn't been able to hold up his end of the deal like he has in the regular season. See, the problem is, is that when Wimby. Wimby got winded and went to the bench, Cornette haven't get on anything, especially like he did against in the previous series. Yeah, no, they've been. So that's why. Because there's so much. There's so much. There are so much more dependent on Wimby's points than they are Hartenstein points or even because Hardenstein.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Basically.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hardenstein and chat. It's a two for one.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

When it's all said and done, can we neutralize him as far as points and rebounds? Can we be close to him in points and. And rebounds? That's what we. Because one guy ain't gonna do it. Yeah, but we got two bigs.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So that's.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's tough, bro. That's tough.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ocho. I took every. If I took. If I took a shot every time you said G.D. i'm drunk right now.

[Joe Johnson]

God damn. Hey, I don't think people understand. It's not got. It's not. It's not the man upstairs in got right. And that. Yeah. And they talk about that, but I curse more than I say God damn. And it's not G. It's not the man upstairs. It's G O T. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's always been part of my vocabulary.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You just. You just passionate. And them cuss words kind of bring. Bring a little more.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't understand what people. People have to understand. Like if. If you cook food right, you add seasoning to the food for flavor. That's all cursing is. Cursing is a sentence enhancer. That's merely. That's all it is. And I have an extensive vocabulary. But this is. This ain't the place to use it. This ain't the place to use it. This is for me to be free. That's why this is. This is. This is our show. So I can express myself the way I talk when I'm out there in the streets. You see, I say streets. I say it's Greece. You see what I mean? Now, when I'm on linear television, then I'll change and be a little bit more professional in what I say in. In the way I pronounce.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Come on.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn. Y' all can't give OKC credit for Those turnovers, this is like. This is not the T Wolves. Yes, we give them credit, but so look, some of those great. Some of those are just careless turnovers, bro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Two things can be true. Yes, the Thunder are a tremendous defensive team, but some of those are just careless.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Forced by forcing. The issue, whether it's Castle just driving in there on three people and he, you know, loses control of the ball. Like, oh, he tried to throw a pass.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He done got up in there and then got caught.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, there you go.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

With nowhere to go.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joe. He'd be a little out of control, too. Like, he moving too fast.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But it's okay. It's okay, Ocho. Cause listen, guess what? I rather have to pull the reins back a little bit versus having to push your ass out there and be like, hey, I need you to be more aggressive. You know what I mean?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hardenstein pulling and yanking Castle by his head was dirty. The fact that it wasn't called is ridiculous. Agree. They're gonna be looking. See, the problem is when you do stuff like that and officials in the game feel they miss it, the other officials gonna be heightened. Yeah. Their sense is going to be up.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They're not gonna let you get away with anything. Nope. So you're gonna have to be on your best behavior.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And they're gonna be watching closely.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They're gonna be watching closely. And so the tickets that. Come on, ref. That ain't no file. You're right, it wasn't.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Normally we wouldn't call it, but you got away with it last time. Yeah, it's my birthday today. I turned 30. Can I please get a nightcap fam to give me a shout out, please? And it would mean the world to me. Anthony Guerrero. It's his 30th birthday. No more 20s.

[Joe Johnson]

Happy, happy birthday. And I remember them day, but when I.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Happy birthday, bro. Huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yep. Yeah, I remember that time, too. Boy, that was good, too.

[Joe Johnson]

I'll tell you what I was doing. Hey, 30.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Marriott Marquis. Remember it like yesterday.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, you threw that thing apart. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It was two people. It was for two people invited. What a time.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What a time, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But, Anthony, happy 30th birthday, man. Enjoy. Enjoy this special day. TS Car Wash Detail service panel. Who y' all picking? Basha Odom, Michael Red or Tayshawn Prince?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Who was the first one? Chris Bosch vs. Lamar Odom and Michael

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Red or Taysha Prince? Out of the four or the two? Them two matchups, I guess they're Two matchups.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Tayshawn was nice at Detroit boy by Lamar Odom.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Cause they totally different players.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They are, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Cause Lamar go more. More of a point forward, guard.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Bosch is the prototypical post player. Played with his back worked on. If he got this, had three point range, could put the ball on the floor.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They're totally different players. Totally, totally different players. Michael Redd is mainly a score. Tayshawn Prince is more of a defender. What are you looking for? What team are they on, Joe? Because that's going to tell you. I'm gonna pick.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't know. I'm gonna keep it real with y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I like all them guys. But if I'm going with Bosch and Lamar Odom. Lamar Odom and I. I love bosh, but I'm going lo. Okay. Because he can do so many different things. He can handle. He can play the point. He can post up. He unselfish. He can make a shot. He can score. He can make guys around him better. I remember when Lamar first came into. I remember when he was playing at Rhode island in college.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I do too.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

At 6 9, 6 10. Uncle Ocho handling the rock like that. I'm like, damn, who's this big tall? And he left handed, too. Out of Michael Red and Ta Prince. Hell, they all left handed. Michael Red left handed. Ta Prince.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I think that's what he. That's why he did it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Mike. Mike was a smooth score, bro. He could score the ball. But that damn Ta, he did everything. He did every damn thing. Everything.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

For me, Joe, I think it has to be the. The situation, the team that. What. What does the team need? What type of team do I have?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. Like you said, if I got a team that's established.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm pro. I'm probably going to take Chris Bosch.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Because I'm not going to need him to do as much.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Team that's not as established that I would need somebody to be able to handle the ball. Can play off the ball. Like you said, he can post up.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I probably take. Oh, now for me, I'm gonna take Tayshawn Prince because I'm gonna take his defense and because I'm not gonna. But again, what type of team do I need?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

If I got an established team like he went to with Detroit.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He was perfect.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Michael Red went to a situation where they needed scoring.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Michael Red wouldn't have fit that well. I don't know if Michael Red would have fit as well with Detroit as Tayshawn.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Prince did, right? Absolutely. You're absolutely right. Tayshawn took all the defense defensive assignments.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, because now you got Taysha and you got big band.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

My boy Ocho. Y' all early drinking red bull and call me at the same time. It's diabolical. We still love you, twin. What's up, Ocho? ISO best podcast in the game. Oo try out Nana Morrison soul food kit and a cigar box when you come to Cary, north Carolina. That's Nana's Morrison soul food and the cigar box.

[Joe Johnson]

Nana Morrison. Matter of fact, I went to. I went to nana Morrison last time. It's in a big plaza and it's. Yeah, like buffet style. Like buffet style.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Joe, did y' all have Morrisons? Y' all remember Morrison's and sns cafeteria? Did y' all have those buffet places?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, we. No, we just had, like, the golden corrals and Joe the bonanza. Y' all remember bonanza and all that?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, the TV show.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, you talking about. You talking about the. The. The. The. The western.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You talk about the TV show.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You talk about the western with little Joe and being caught, right, hoss?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm talking. I'm talking about. That's. That's a. It's a buffet style.

[Joe Johnson]

But now, Joey never heard of that. Hey, Joe, you ever heard of Piccadilly's?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, Piccadilly. That's in this cafeteria. Morrisons. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Man, I ain't been to a buffet in a while.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, people too nasty, man. They got kids.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joe, you ain't. You ain't been. You know golden corral got them Hawaiian rolls. What?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's why I used to go ocho. When I. When I was young, my mama used to take me there all the time.

[Joe Johnson]

Hawaiian rolls, the golden corral. Unc. Why get by? I got. I get by all six of them things.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, the kids being there, playing in the food and all that on the.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Man, you see them now? They sit up there. Go ahead and get your plate. Now, you know damn well ain't no reason no 5, 6 year old need to be up no buffet plit. They sticking their hands and grabbing cook n. I'm good, cuz. I'm good. I'm sorry. Hey, Chad, I'm sorry, but. No, I'm good. Yeah, they done waste up all the ice cream that made a cone. They got the ice cream this hot. They got a cone this big. Jay will said, can we talk about how Hardenstein was holding the whole game?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Jeez, bro, they not gonna call everything. Listen, man, I'm telling y', all, if I'm in that damn position, I'm gonna do a little holding, too. I don't know what else y' all want the man to do. The man, he can't. Hey, hey. He gotta be physical. He gotta hold and grab a little bit. Hell, just for. Just to offset the game, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You gotta. Yeah. Gotta impede. I'm doing it until they call it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, what? What? Ocho, as a defender, what they tell you to do? Hold until they call it. And they're not gonna call it every plate, right?

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, that's. That's what I was saying earlier. The man is. Is different. They don't have to face anyone like him because he's so different. Referees are going to hold a whistle a little bit more as opposed. Because of who he is. They ain't calling everything.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You right. It's showtime. Peg. Last night, thanks to the Vice of Ocho. Love the guy show. What?

[Joe Johnson]

Wait. Who you got? A pug. What do you say?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He said. He said he got pegged thanks to you.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. Okay. There you go, Brad. There you go. There you go. Listen.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Come on. Don't be indoors.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I took that one to my grave.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, what? Hey, listen. You. You and your woman, man, Y' all enjoy that, man. You know, you. It's all about exploring, man. It's all about exploring, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn. Oh, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I'm gonna stay. I'm gonna stay. I'm gonna stay long then. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, Ojo. You don't mind getting paid for me?

[Joe Johnson]

I. I ain't never did that. I would just suggested it to y'.

[Shaquille O'Neal (Superhuman Shaq)]

All.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The man said he took your advice.

[Joe Johnson]

You heard.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay, all right. Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Suggesting y', all.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Joe, what you mean?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Y' all know I'll pay. I'll pay. You no attention, right? Photos neutralize shot blockers. Everyone's got to bring back the floaters for Wimby. They do, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you better have one.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The spurs just need to slow down when the game is close. Hardenstein can't be pulling hair either. Spurs are in the catbird seat. I do think the spurs are going to win game three.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They in the driver's seat. They got home court advantage. They took home court advantage, but I don't know, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Listen. What? What's up, Big three? If y' all had to choose between women, sga. Who yalls choosing to start a franchise,

[Joe Johnson]

you know they gonna pick Wimby no more.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Come on, come on, come on, come on, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

We've seen a few SGAs throughout NBA history, but we ain't never seen no damn Wimby.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We ain't never see, though.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Watch it go from Team Braun to Team Alien in real time. Yep. Hey, he about to make me come. You know, I was like he about to be because I was, you know, I was a Yokich and Luca, man, I don't know.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Ain't seen nothing like Wimpy, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That dude. That man. Good God. It ain't even fair. I agree with y' all guys. It ain't fair. He shouldn't be able to do that, but he can. Can you give some encouragement to my alma mater, Central High School competes in the women's flag football playoffs. Yes, Central High. Good luck in the flag football. I don't know what round this is, but it does not matter. All you need to do is win and advance. So team Nightcap, want to wish you the best of luck. Go out there, give it your all, and let's see what happens.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I wonder. I wonder if that's Central Miami Central down here in Miami. That's somewhere else.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Don't start me to lie.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't know that. That must be a woman. Woman's flag, too, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hold on, let me see. Got K. Can you give some encouragement to my alma model Central High High School, that competes in women's flag football? Yeah, I think it's women. Damn. Joe disappeared.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, where you at? Joe? Hey, hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He see all that talking? Oh, Joey. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. He is. This camera. His camera went dead. I know that's what it was. Oh, hell, he ain't pay. He ain't pay the light bill. One or the other?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

One of the two. Hey, lay off. Basketball at his best Shay show, huh? What the hell you got going on, Joe? What the hell you mean? What happened?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Thank you, boy. Huh? Y'. All. Y' all trying to get rid of me.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That got nothing to do with us. Oh, Joe not talking. I said, joe, what the hell happened? I said, ocho, what the hell happened?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What happened? My screen J went blank, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, you got tired of talking.

[Joe Johnson]

What kind of camera you got, Joe? You got that Sony, too?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, I ain't got. I ain't got. You talking about like y' all got a real Sony camera, right?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I got a real Sony camera. So my mind just cut off sometime out the blue.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, no, no. I gotta get mine. I gotta get my. Mine only been good. Damn. Damn. What'd I miss, bro? What I missed? I missed something?

[Joe Johnson]

No, not really. You Was only gone for two seconds.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That thing just went blank.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's how it's gonna look when I hit you.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, don't, don't, don't. Don't laugh at him, because I promise I'm gonna send his ass back to you. Crying. He gonna be crying.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Playoff basketball at his best. Shay show why He's a superstar. Spurs need to cut down on the turnovers. They sure need to fix back Fox back on game three. I think he comes back on game three. I think they take care of the. I think they take care of the basketball, and I think they will.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't think game three gonna be as easy as you think. I think due to. I don't know if Harper gonna be able to play. I think obviously Fox gonna come back, but, damn, we gotta see how he gonna be when he come back off that. Off that ankle. Ocho, you know, there ain't no guarantee he gonna come back. And he gonna be 100, you know, he probably gonna come back because maybe if Harper is out, he probably feel like he gotta come back. You know what I mean?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right? Ah, I gotta do it. I'm sorry. Son of Michelle K. Michelle. That's my Michelle. Nixon 5. Love y' all, fellas.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, that was. Hey, it might be Nixon 4A.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The Cavs got to get this thing back. I know they hard.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm gonna be honest with you. It's. It's hard for me to see where they can bounce back from that loss, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

That's crazy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Who's the most overrated team who's the most overrated NBA and NFL team in history?

[Joe Johnson]

Overrated? I mean, Joe team.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What you mean you need my Cowboys?

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't say no name. You mentioned it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You need to stop it, bro. For real. You need to chill.

[Joe Johnson]

I ain't even say no name, and you mentioned it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You need to chill. You need to chill. You said my team. Hell, I ain't got but one team in the NFL.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, I thought the Falcons was your team.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, I go. I go to the games, though. But I ain't, like. I ain't no. You know.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, okay, my bad.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Tell my. He thought the Falcons in my team.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

My man said. Ocho. Whistling, whistling

[Joe Johnson]

hey, hey, hey. I gotta. I got a question. Like, all jokes aside, what's wrong with my whistle? I mean, I whistle normal. Like, I don't know how to do the one like this.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

We didn't hear no whistle.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We didn't hear nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

You hear that? What are you talking about?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, we don't nothing, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, no, I'm sorry.

[Joe Johnson]

With my baby. I know my baby watching baby. Am I whistling? Because they, they, they trolling, man. Hey, hey Joe, you know how to do that whistle?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't know how to do that one, uncle.

[Joe Johnson]

You know how to do the whistle where they put the two pinkies in their mouth?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, I can't do that.

[Joe Johnson]

Loud as hell, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey. Nolan Richardson used to do that. My high school, my college coach, he used to do.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Trying to get your damn attention. Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Man, that's it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hold on.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You see this Carter bride had to go to the, the public restroom, do it mid game.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He had the bubble guts.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't know what he had, but they got it covered out there. They got him coming out of the public restroom, you know.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, hey, he 20 years old. He, he's still a little nasty.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, he don't know better. Oh, you do realize Sharp Ocho can only say GD 1200 times a night. Kinky Kinko and Steel King ISO. Hardest one on matchup in your career.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The hardest one on one matchup in my career. Yes. I always give credit, you know, the guys like Rip Hamilton and Ray Allen for all the running that they do. But border guard, Kobe and Braun and Mello and D. Wade, guys who can break the play at any point and go and score them the hardest dude to guard because they so unpredictable. You know, if they find a crease or get a crease, they going for it. Yeah, yeah, there.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey guys, you're the GM and you're building around Shay or Wimby and you got the choice today. Knowing what I know not even though Shay is a two time league MVP and he's won the championship.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, we said that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oo, how was it acting on the show, the game? Do you remember that role?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, that was good. That was good. That was good. I, I think for that role, that appearance on the game, I should have won an Emmy for what I was able to do. Obviously just happened to be myself. The, the character that I did depict is, is similar to some of my situations that go on in real life. So that was me in real time and there have been situations like that that I've come across, you know, with individuals that I've dated over time and I mean it was good, you know, just having to be myself and not having to play a character at that time.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

In my young acting career it was dope and I thought I did a very, very good job.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You averaged 15 in the playoffs. Can we please talk about your playoff stats. Let's be fair. I don't know who he talking about, Joe. You averaged 15 in the playoffs.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I may have had a playoff series. I did average 15. I mean, I don't know if that's no career, though.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ojo, the promo before the game at Jacksonville in 2005 was classic Rasheed Mathis. You can't cover me. What are you going to. What was it going to like against him? Your touchdown celebration you were doing CPR was very good.

[Joe Johnson]

He was very good. I think at that time, we went into Jacksonville. I think we were 4. 0. We were 4. 0 at that time. We. I think we ended up losing that game. And I was crying on camera after the game. It's funny, Joe. We four know. I'm crying on camera because now we four on one because I felt that was the game that we shouldn't have lost. But Rasheed Math was very good. Very, very good. Especially impressed. Very aggressive play inside and out. You know, we keep. Keep you thinking. Once he get his hands on you, you're done.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So I did. I did everything in my power to make sure I wasn't able to get touched. I don't remember what my stat line was that game, but I remember Rasheed Mathis being one that I really had no choice but to get up for because I did all that damn talking before the game.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And he was a good player, too.

[Joe Johnson]

No, he went to hbcu too, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, he went to.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Or.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Or he went to. Yeah, he went. I think he went to.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I think it was.

[Joe Johnson]

I think he did. When I think I might be wrong.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I think he went to Cookman. Can we Talk about your 15 points in the playoffs? You guys have a responsibility to be honest. Y' all not creating a narrative. Oh, you say wrong stats. You claim you've seen LeBron James give up a 31 lead. I never said that. I said Kobe gave up a 31 lead and would prove the point by not taking a shot. Ain't nobody say that. I said LeBron came back from 3:1, and we know he's the only one to come. I'm moving on. With your background colors next to each other, it's like a French flag. Is that for women?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that's dope. Hey, Joe, your background blue on yours, red, and mine white.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I like that. That's dope. That's dope. How they can't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We cheering on the big champagne. Oh. What do you think? It's either for people to hate on someone or appreciate.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hey, yeah, way easy.

[Joe Johnson]

You got to be a different person to give someone their gratification, give someone their flowers.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes, because we know. We, we. Because we know. We know you, you and we know Uncle Ocho. Ain't y' all really give me my flowers when I, you know, I mean

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

like, Ocho, what I mean, I'm giving your flower, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm talking about from when I be kicking on y' all ass. When I kicked on y' all ass in January. Now y' all don't give me my flowers for that. Y' all don't just say, joe, you was a bad boy, man. It's always an excuse. I'm saying, man, we. You know what I'm saying? That's all I'm saying.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you know what, Joe? Hey, hey, uncle, he living on the past a little too much. We need. We need to hurry up and set something. We need to set something else back up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We gave his credit, but I still ain't good enough.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know what else he want.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All y' all had to say, well, yeah, you right, Joe. You, you, you use a cold, mom.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All right, you get right, Joe. God damn, Joe. You full of cockey, Joe. That's what we've been to say. That complete completes this episode of Nightcap. As you watch the OKC Thunder tie the series up heading to San Antonio. What was the final 120? 122 to 113. Big, big night from Shay Gilgis Alexander. They had three guys come off the bench and give them double figures and that was the difference in the ball game. But two guys, three guys left the ball game. Dylan Harper, who was filling in the starting lineup for Darren Fox. He left the ball game. J Dub or re injured what looks like to be his hamstring. He left the ball game. And the guy that played so well in the previous series against the Lakers, he ends up leaving the ball game with lower leg injury. So we'll see how this plays out over the next 36 hours and see what, what, what comes of that. But it's going to be very, very interesting if those three players do not play in game three. Thank you, Jack guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am, I'm your favorite unc and my partner and co host, the bingo Ring of Fame honoree, a former pro Bowler and an all pro. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson. And the third member of the big three, a seven time NBA All Star from the University of Arkansas that is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of shade by Laportier head over to laportierconac.com if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. It is a premium vsop. Cognac is smooth, great taste and it drinks like an xo. Please, please drink responsibly and stay safe. We've been nominated for the Hashtag Sports Award of 2026 short list in four categories. Best Brand Partnership Nightcap Outside in Row Best Podcast Best Athletes Podcast Best Use of Live Video that link is pinned into the chat. Go vote as many times as you like for Nightcap. Thank you guys. And again, the San Antonio spurs Even the series one piece with a 122, 113 victory over the San Antonio Spurs. The spurs did what they wanted to do. They snatch home court. Now we're going to see if they can consolidate it, go home on third on Friday and win game three again. We'll see you tomorrow night after the Knicks Cleveland game. I'm unk. He's oo. He's ISO. Thank you guys for joining us. Until tomorrow. Sam. And now, Superhuman Shack.

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Things like prep. Prep stands for pre exposure prophylaxis, and it means routinely taking prescription medicines medicine before you're exposed to HIV to help

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reduce your chances of getting it.

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Prep can be about 99% effective when taken as prescribed. It doesn't protect against other stis, though, so be sure to use condoms and other healthy sex practices. Ask a healthcare provider about all your prevention Options, and visit findoutaboutprep.com to learn more.

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