Nightcap - Hour 2: TJ and Deebo react to the P Diddy case coming to a close and a verdict on the horizon!

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap - Hour 2 Summary

Episode Information:

• Title: Nightcap - Hour 2: TJ and Deebo react to the P Diddy case coming to a close and a verdict on a horizon!
• Release Date: June 26, 2025
• Hosts: James Harrison and T.J. Houshmandzadeh
• Hosted By: Club Shay Shay, featuring NFL legend Shannon Sharpe

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1. Introduction to the P Diddy Case

The episode kicks off with James Harrison and T.J. Houshmandzadeh diving into the highly publicized case involving P Diddy. They discuss the recent developments as the prosecution has rested their case and the defense has done the same, setting the stage for closing arguments and an impending verdict.

• T.J. Houshmandzadeh [04:35]: "We gonna go into something else. We gonna talk about Diddy case."

2. Analysis of Dropped Charges and Legal Implications

James and T.J. delve into the significance of the prosecution dropping key charges such as kidnapping, sex trafficking, and attempted arson. They debate whether these drops weaken the case against Diddy and speculate on the possible outcomes of the trial.

• James Harrison [07:00]: "I would be surprised if he didn't get something. I would be surprised just because it's a federal case."

• T.J. Houshmandzadeh [31:12]: "I would not be surprised either way if he's found guilty or not guilty."

3. Emotional Impact and Personal Reflections

The conversation takes a personal turn as both hosts share their experiences with loss and the importance of protecting loved ones from abusive behavior. They emphasize the need for accountability and the emotional toll such cases take on families and communities.

• James Harrison [03:34]: "I've had my dad pass away in 2016... we have emotions."

• T.J. Houshmandzadeh [04:50]: "I love you and I'm with you... that guy's an idiot."

4. Transition to Entertainment and Lighter Topics

After a deep dive into the legal case, the hosts transition to discussing the entertainment world, touching upon upcoming releases and humorous anecdotes related to celebrity culture.

• (Note: Specific quotes from this section are minimal as the conversation primarily shifts focus.)

5. Parenting and Personal Stories

James and T.J. share heartfelt stories about their experiences as fathers. They discuss parenting styles, discipline, and the challenges of raising children with different personalities. Their anecdotes provide a glimpse into their lives outside of professional sports.

• James Harrison [19:09]: "You can't be like that. It's the kids, man."

• T.J. Houshmandzadeh [24:18]: "And you be looking at them... I had to get her some counseling."

6. Reflections on Sports and Team Dynamics

The hosts reminisce about their careers, sharing memorable moments from Super Bowl parades and discussing the differences in coaching styles between influential figures like Bill Coward and Mike Tomlin. They highlight the impact these coaches had on their professional lives and team cohesion.

• James Harrison [38:57]: "He was into all the details, and he made sure that you were put out in front of everybody."

• T.J. Houshmandzadeh [36:43]: "Were you getting in fights often again?"

7. Closing Thoughts and Upcoming Topics

As the episode wraps up, James and T.J. hint at future discussions, including an in-depth look at the 2005 Super Bowl and the associated stories. They encourage listeners to subscribe and stay tuned for more engaging conversations.

• T.J. Houshmandzadeh [46:46]: "We'll be back tomorrow. Nightcap."

• James Harrison [46:50]: "This."

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Notable Quotes:

• James Harrison [07:00]: "I would be surprised if he didn't get something. I would be surprised just because it's a federal case."

• T.J. Houshmandzadeh [24:20]: "Tell me how you look when you get discipline like you just. I need to see the face. Can you do that?"

• James Harrison [21:47]: "My favorite from day to day depends on how they acted."

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Conclusion:

In this episode of Club Shay Shay, James Harrison and T.J. Houshmandzadeh offer a candid and emotionally charged discussion on the nearing verdict of the P Diddy case, intertwining personal anecdotes and reflections on leadership, parenting, and their storied careers in sports. Their authentic dialogue provides listeners with both insightful commentary on current events and relatable stories from their personal lives.

Transcript

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[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

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[James Harrison]

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[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

We gonna go I want to talk about and then we gonna get off of sports and we gonna go into something else. You watch baseball?

[James Harrison]

Nah man, I ain't gonna lie to you. I tried to, but I. I just, I can't.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Hey, well I'm, I'm. I'mma Break. I'm gonna break this down for you. And this is actually like, I can't believe another human being would do this, because I'm a compassionate. I treat people how they treat me. You treat me great, I'mma treat you great. You treat me bad, I'm gonna treat you worse. But Patel more Taylor, he plays for the Arizona Diamondbacks. Right. So during the game, the game is going. I believe he's on deck. He just breaks down and starts crying and nobody knows what's going on. They like what happened. I guess while he was on deck, a fan in the stands that was close enough for him to hear made a comment regarding his mother. His mother passed away in 2017 in a car accident. And I think he was making fun of him about his mother passing away. And it just got to him and he broke down in tears. You jumping in the crowd? No. You jumping in the stand?

[James Harrison]

No, no, I'm not jumping in the stands. I mean, I've had, you know, my dad passed away in 2016. And, you know, you have people that may say something on, you know, Instagram, DM you something, especially once I left the Steelers, you know, crazy stuff. And it's not. It's not something that I'm going to jump to the stands with, but if it's somebody there that's in person, I think that's something that he should have pointed out. Let them know it need to be repercussions and consequences for fans to step too far. You know, you suck and all that other stuff. Yeah, that's part of the game. You know, that's. That's fans hackling you and all that. When you get into personal things like that and you're talking about the loss in life of a loved one now, you know, you don't stepped over the boundary like that person needed to be pointed out and banned from the stadium for life.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

I believe that did happen. They pointed out the fan. It was a terrible moment.

[Ryan]

Fans are nasty and fans go too far sometimes.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

And.

[Ryan]

I love my players and I'm going to protect them. At the end of the day, we're.

[James Harrison]

Human beings and we have emotions and.

[Ryan]

I saw them hurting and I want to protect them. You tell us what you told him.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

I love you and I'm with you.

[Ryan]

And we're all together and you're not alone. And no matter what happens, no matter what was said or what you heard, that guy's an idiot.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Yeah. So I agree with him. The fan has been banned indefinitely. I don't know what's permanent and if you're just tuning in, that's James Harrison. I'm T.J. usadis night number two on takeover week. Uncanocho. You know, taking a little break. Taking a little break now. We gonna transition away from this football. We gonna get into the entertainment world, man. And I don't. Okay, I don't know if they've discussed this on here. I'm not sure. But we gonna discuss it. We gonna talk about it. We gonna talk about Diddy case. Prosecution, they rested their case. The defense, and I wouldn't say I've kept up with it, but I've been paying attention to it. I read a lot each and every day about what's going on in the world, and that's part of it. Prosecution rest this case. Defense didn't call anybody, so they rest their case. Day off today. Closing arguments tomorrow. They assume the case will be given to the jury tomorrow. But in the meantime, today, Diddy's key charges such as kidnapping, abating, sex trafficking, attempted arson, they all been dropped by the prosecution. He still faces racketeering and other charges, but those three charges that were dropped were key in bringing the case being filed against him. And so you gonna give your thoughts? I'm gonna give my thoughts organically. We don't want to offend anybody. I'm a man that has obviously a wife and three daughters. I'll preface that. Before you go.

[James Harrison]

I think they gonna try and put the man under the jail. Me, personally, that's what I think. Do he deserve to be under the jail? He should be in it for sure. But I, I don't, I don't, I don't know about under, man. He done did some wicked stuff, man. He, he taking stuff from men, women, everything. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's, it's, it's wild, bro.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

I, I, you know, I, I, I.

[James Harrison]

Couldn'T, I can't rhyme with releasing, you know, his, his, his thought process or, or, or whatever. You know, I have friends that are like, yo, he, you know, he go get off. And then I'm like, dude, if you think he go get off, he, he's, I just don't see him getting off. Well, you know, they go and say, well, you know, she did this, she did that. Da, da, da. You know, she did it willingly. I'm like, dude, it's a big difference between doing something willingly and being raised and molded to believe that this is what it is. You got a young mind there, you know, that's like, if I take my kids, man, and I mold them and I make them believe that it's okay to be, you know, a person that just doesn't care about anybody. You do it what you want to do to hell, what everybody else says. That's something that they're going to, you know, come up and believe and. And understand that that's just how the world works. Because I've had them in my, you know, I've had them in my raps, and that's what I've taught and believed and. And made them believe is the natural order of how this world works. So, you know, with everything they're saying and how, you know, she may have did this without him having to do that. I mean, if you want to, you know, your kids, whether it's something good or bad, if they want to please you, they're going to do the thing that you feel they feel makes you happy, you know, and rather that is something as outlandish as this. When you get them young and you get them to believe that this is the natural order of things, that's something you could do so. Well, he didn't do nothing illegal. I mean, it's not really illegal, but, I mean, that's brainwashing. You know, that's what people do in cults. And you have guys that go and lead a whole group of people to 300 people and make them believe that now he is the savior. He's the Messiah. And you know what? We're going to all drink this poison and we're all going to go die, and he's going to bring us back, and we're going to, you know, go to heaven. So, you know, it's a lot to unfold there, especially when you're able to, you know, put that person in that cocoon and mold them and make them believe what it is and they don't have no outside force and telling them different now.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

All right, let's unpack what you just said, the molding part of it. She was an adult technically when she started messing with him. Are her parents culpable also because you knew your daughter was with him?

[James Harrison]

Okay, so now you say she's an adult. True statement. So now she's an adult. What can her parents tell her because she's an adult? And then at the same time, you say because she's an adult. Nobody is mature enough. Dude, I'm a different person at 30 than I was at 40. I'm a different person at 47, and it was at 40, you know, and my. My understandings, my beliefs, what I'M what I'm learning, especially you know, since, you know, I was baptized and I accepted my Lord and Savior in August of last year. Just over the course of the last two years, building my relationship with God and you know, talking and praying and having a relationship with him. My whole thought process, man, has changed. My attitud has changed. My empathy, my sympathy, my understanding for other people's situations has totally changed. You know where before, you know, when I was playing dude, I didn't empathize and sympathize with nobody. I couldn't feel it like, oh, this happened or that happened. Okay, sucks for you.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

But could it be he's just not a good person? He's not a good person. He's done some terrible things to others, specifically the women in his life. But is he guilty of a crime? Is he guilty of something that can land him behind bars for multiple years or is just, he's just not a good dude?

[James Harrison]

Well, I mean, I mean you got him on tape. I mean, dragging her down and bombing on her. Come on, man, like that's right there. And on top of it, they tried to hide it. I mean, once that came out, it was sort of, you know, and on top of it when it came out, he immediately goes within a few days and settles out. Like I'm going to tell you right now, if I didn't do it, and I know I didn't do it, I'm going to go broke before I admit to anything. I will be broke, destitute, living on the streets before I pay a penny to you for something that I. Oh.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

He know, he knows what he did. He knew what he was doing. He didn't want any of that to come out because of his image. He didn't want that to come out to the public that we having freak offs and I'm watching my lady get power drive by this dude and then by that dude and I'm watching and he don't want that to get out. That's why you settle. And again, I got three daughters, my kids. Thank the Lord and hopefully it stays it. We ain't making those type of decisions because I would hope they were raised the correct way. I don't care how much money you have, I don't care what you doing. That's not going to move them because they've been raised that if a man is doing how he treats you, first and foremost, that's the most important thing. How he treats you as a person, not what he's doing for you as a person. And so I just feel like this is going to be real interesting when we get this verdict, which will probably be early next week, just to see where they go with this. Because I think he's a terrible person when you do all the things that he's done. Especially we see the video. Like, I just put myself like, bro, what if that was my daughter? Then I damn near gotta possibly lose my life. Cause I gotta go do something about that. Like, I'm doing something about that.

[James Harrison]

Like, you don't have to understand what you're saying. But again, as you said, she's an adult now. She's making her own decisions.

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[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

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[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

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[James Harrison]

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[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

When I. Because when I say make your own decisions, is this when you willingly are texting the guy that is coming to see you? You say that's coercion. She's been manipulated, she's been molded into that. But then you're also, you get away from Diddy for a couple weeks because you dating this guy, you dating this professional athlete. So it's not like you are under his wing. You're in his presence at all times, you have opportunity to leave because you're dating other people, you're doing other things, but you continue to come back again.

[James Harrison]

And so money, I mean, some people are controlled by money. You know, they let money, you know, the money is who to all evil, let's say. And you know, I guess her need, desire for money, fame, whatever that may be, was one of the things that may have added to the coercion of, you know, her being susceptible to, you know, coming back. You know, is she going to, I mean, you know, it's like, are you, is she going to be able to live the same sort of lifestyle? You know, is she going to be able to be.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

I believe that to me, it's a lot.

[James Harrison]

There's a lot of things there. Man, if I'm just happy God never gave me a daughter, you know, he knew that I couldn't handle it, I couldn't take it.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

So he gave me three of them. And I love it. Like when, obviously when you had that first baby, you like, yes, gonna be a boy. It's a huh, huh? It's a girl. Okay, cool, cool, cool. The next one coming for sure is gonna be a boy. It's a huh?

[James Harrison]

You gave up after the third one.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Oh, no.

[James Harrison]

Still trying to get the boy. Hey, crew. Oh, you got it. Come here, man.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

I got girl, girl, girl. And so my wife go to the doctor, and she. I didn't go, like, when you figure out what the sex is? And then she was like, you want to know? So this is my son right here, okay? And so he got good size, too, okay? He 11 years old. He about five seven size 11 shoe.

[James Harrison]

Okay.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Daddy, I'm taller than you. And so they go to the doctor, right? And she comes home because I did not go. I was like, I already know it's going to be another girl. I already know. I don't care. It is what it is. I'm cool with it now. I've come to accept I'm not going to have a son. And so every day she asked him, and I think about a week later, they end up saying, you know, it's a boy. I'm like, oh, you just going to tell me this, knowing it's a girl? And so they kept like, no, it's really your boy. Like, I was like, man, really excited about that. Like, happy about it and picking out, like, picking out the name and just like, wow, I finally got a son, right? Having those daughters, it. At Least for me, I'm a good dude. I'm not. But I'm real. I'm real temperamental, you know, I got. I had a. I had. And I still do at times. Bad temper and having daughters, they calm you down.

[James Harrison]

You. You can't be like that. It's the kids, man.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Be like that with little girls.

[James Harrison]

It's the kids that calm you down. Believe me.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

That'S all I have.

[James Harrison]

Yeah. I've learned and built a whole lot of patience through being with my kids and understanding that, you know everything. You can't go off at the wire. You can't be, you know, you can't be a tyrant, you know, with. With the.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Don't tire me. Yeah, for sure.

[James Harrison]

I'm consistent with my discipline. If you do A, then B, it's going to happen. I don't let A happen. And then it happens again and again and again and now and you.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

And you be looking at them. I was talking about earlier, like, you about to go crazy.

[James Harrison]

I don't do that, so I don't let myself get my kids.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Tell me how you look when you get. Discipline me like you just. I need to see the face. Can you do that?

[James Harrison]

No, I don't need to get angry. I'm like, yo, don't do that. If they do it again, then I'll spank them. Like, you know, when they were younger that. I'm past that now. You know, you take away things. So if you do something, I spank you. And to be honest with you, man, I made them believe that I enjoyed it, but it hurt me to my soul with my kids, man. I'm not going to lie to you. I didn't enjoy it. I didn't like it, but I wanted them to believe that I did so that it's like, you know, what if dad say, do something or don't do something, I'm going to do it or don't do it. Because I was always told that delayed obedience is disobedience. If I tell you to do something now, I want it done now. I don't want to come 30 minutes later and it's not done. That's a problem. So you have to be. You have to be disciplined for that. And I'm not angry. I'm not mad about it. Where you get parents who are telling their kid, you know, five, six, seven, eight times, now they're mad and they want to hit him, no, don't fucking touch him now. Because you mad and you want to hit him. You want to discipline him. You tell him to do something once, he doesn't do it, then you bop him. You do that. You're consistent with the dude.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

It's easy. I don't think my. Think my son has ever been spanked, now that I think about it. I don't think he's ever been spanked.

[James Harrison]

Some kids you don't have to spank, man. But I know me and, you know, my kids are me. And, you know, I'm telling mom like, yo, they. They half me. They have you now. They have this.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Do any of your sons have your temperament? Do they have that look on their face Any. Any of your boys?

[James Harrison]

My oldest may have a little bit, but I think he tr. You know, it ain't natural. You know what I'm saying? Okay, I. I don't think. I don't think it's natural, you know? So who's your favorite, though?

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Oh, my God. It's funny, man.

[James Harrison]

We.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

We talk about this a lot, right? In our house, like, so. In our household, we always say, my oldest daughter, that's my wife's favorite. That's like her. She had her young. They. They argued and then they both come to each other. They don't even let us see it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Also, I love you. And so, like, my oldest, that's her and my wife, they like this. So then everybody say, my second daughter was like the son that I never had until I had one. Cause I coached her her whole life in softball. And we were always together. We go to practice together. We go to the games together. We flying out of state together. And so they like to say, my second daughter and my son are with me. My first daughter and my third daughter are with my wife. So they. That's how. That's what they say. I don't know if I. If I have a favorite one. I have a favorite quality that I like in each one, but I don't know if I have, like, oh, she my favorite. They'll say otherwise. But I think it's a quality in each one that I like that, like, oh, I wish they all could just have this one quality. But they don't. But I do. My second daughter, we get along because she not going to argue with you. If you just start going off, she'll just be like, okay, won't say another word. My oldest daughter, she'll go back and forth with you all day. That's why her and my wife get into it. Because my wife back and forth with you all day. And I hope she hearing it so she don't no more back and forth. Be quiet.

[James Harrison]

Right, Right.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

You know what? I'm gonna start doing my wife how you did your son. Hey, I'm gonna tell you one time, and that's it. And she gonna watch this, and she just gonna smack me in my head. I'm like, what you hit me for?

[James Harrison]

You can't. You can't. You can't do it. You can't do it with the. With the. With the spot.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

She probably gonna watch this and be like, oh, okay.

[James Harrison]

Yeah.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

So your oldest one, he. He like, y' all this.

[James Harrison]

So if I had to pick a favorite, I couldn't pick a favorite. To be honest with you. I have a favorite from day to day. It depends on how they acted. Love Em does the same. Now, you know, the one may do something or say something that. That's gonna upset me. And, you know, to be honest with you, man, you know, you try and.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Treat your kids, you just got a two voice.

[James Harrison]

That's it, that's it. That's it, man. I. I train, I try and treat them the same, but, you know, they got different personalities. So I may actually let my younger one get away with something that I wouldn't let my older one get away.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Yes, bro. All my oldest kids. Oh, yeah. I'll let them get away with, like, my third daughter. I swear to you, bro, when she was like, seven, eight years old, I told my wife, I said, we probably gonna have to get her help. Like, her temper was so, like, literally, I would have to hold her down. Like, she wouldn't stop. And I'm like, you not stronger than me. Like, she would be going. Then she'll stop. And as soon as I let her go, here she go. I'm like, we might have to get her help. Like, this is, like, concerning me. And then I swear, bro, like, three, four months later. Super. We still talk about this today. Great personality, great person. Just does stuff around the house without you having to ask her. But it was a period, about eight months. I was like, I don't know, bro. She might have to. We might have to go get her some counseling. And then, boom, completely changed.

[James Harrison]

Yeah, I'm not talking to, like, that standard. I may let him. I may let my younger one get away with certain things that allow him to build individuality, you know, because my oldest son, you know, he's 17. The other one's 15. So he's probably dealing with some bullying, you know, that I ain't seeing. So I may let him get away with, you know, maybe doing something that I wouldn't let my oldest get away with. Like, my oldest. Oh, his confidence is not an issue. So I got to bring him down anytime, you know, he feels like he's trying to step a little further out of the box than I feel like he should. Where my younger one, you know, I'll let something slide and step out of the box. He may say something and then he'll side eye me.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Like, did he hear me say that?

[James Harrison]

And I won't even pay no attention to it. Where if my oldest said, I'm like, what you say? You know, correct your words. You know what I'm saying?

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

So that oldest one is always going to get it harder and rougher than the guy wants. You they the guinea pigs. Like, especially, at least for me, I was a young parent. Like, some of the things I did with my oldest one, man, when she was born, bro, I would drive and put my hand on her foot because if I wasn't touching her, she would cry whole ride. Like, I'm literally driving like this with my hand on her foot in her car seat. Like, the things we do for our Children now, do they just play. Do they play football or is that the only sport?

[James Harrison]

My oldest just plays football. My youngest, he does, he does track and football.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Okay. Yeah. My oldest, my, My son, My daughter's play softball, but my son plays seven on seven. We was gonna go to tackle this year, but we gonna hold back one. He 11.

[James Harrison]

Getting young, man. You gotta, you gotta. I, I, I believe 10 is good because they gotta learn how to, how to get.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

He just turned 11, though. He just turned 11.

[James Harrison]

Yeah. They gotta learn how to give a hit, take a hit.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

That physicality, right? That's what.

[James Harrison]

It's safe for me. For me, it was safety. I want you to know how to give a hit, take a hit. Because if you go out there, you know, people that want to hold their kids back until, you know, 13, 14, 15 years old, high school and all that, and then they get out there and he's running down the field and he, you know, he head high and he goes to, you know, try and protect himself, and all he does is lower his head. And, you know, dude comes in there and gives him, you know, everything that he did not expect he was going to get. And now, you know, he's laid out on the field. Field. That's not, you know, that's something that he would have learned.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

You know, I used to always think, like, oh, they don't need to play early. And I, I'm telling people this, but I'm not taking my own advice. When you play at a young age, there's not enough speed built up for the most part. There's some kids, there's real record. So all the collisions, they're minor collisions because there's no speed built up. As you get older, guys get faster, they get stronger, they get more power. Them collisions, yes, they're a little worse. And so that point I do regret because I would tell people all the time, like, the collisions at a young age ain't gonna matter. And my son ain't playing at a young age. We just been playing. Been playing AAU basketball for about two years now. Our team cold, though.

[James Harrison]

We cold.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

We want top teams in the country.

[James Harrison]

Everybody, Everybody's AAU team. Cole, man.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Like, out here in Southern California, we know, like, they know. Like, this ain't just no talk. And it's the difference, though. We are true age. You got these motherfucking teams. Dude in the. Going to the sixth grade, he 13 years old. Stop fucking cheating, bro. Like, these dudes be, like, going to the sixth grade, they be like trying.

[James Harrison]

To get every competitive advantage that they can, man, you know, you hurt your job.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Like that's one thing I'll say about our team is everybody is the age limit and we nice, we known out here. But I be, I gotta calm down cause I be at the games acting crazy.

[James Harrison]

Oh, you wanna do just the same.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Way, just talking to the refs crazy. When they make a bad call, I'll say something to them and if they get smart, then it is what it is. And nine times outta ten they man, so they gonna get smart right back. So then I just be going, yeah, we be going off or I be going off.

[James Harrison]

Yeah, I kicked your ass out the game.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

I think I've been kicked out one time. One time.

[James Harrison]

Dude, you can't do that.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Making bad calls, bro, they be making bad calls, they be making bad. Don't cheat us just if we gonna lose, let us lose. But we not, we don't. If we play and we played 50 games, we winning 45 of them easily. And them five losses is going to be to a team that we just can't beat right now.

[James Harrison]

But we, right now we just can't beat. It's right.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

But later, yeah, the Debo. Yeah, right, yeah.

[James Harrison]

Well, you leave.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Yeah, I'm back talking. We can't beat them, can't beat them. They got our number. But yeah, outside of that, we good. So the Diddy thing, let me go back to that. I, I believe we'll get a verdict next week. I would not be surprised either way if he's found guilty or not guilty. I believe he's going to be found not guilty because being a terrible person is not a crime. Not being compassionate to a fellow human being is not a crime. What he did to her, beating her down, that's a crime. But he's not being charged for that. He not being charged for that. And so.

[James Harrison]

Say that again. Who brought these charges?

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Hey, the feds. You know when the feds. Yeah, but hey, when the feds, the day of the closing arguments or the day before closing arguments, drop three charges, that makes me believe they don't believe in their case.

[James Harrison]

They probably had those charges set up in some way, shape or form where everything had to go or nothing.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

It's going to be interesting when this hits next week, I'm sure one both ways. It's going to be a group of people really happy. A group of people saying no.

[James Harrison]

Yeah, I ain't going to lie tonight. I'm not going. I'm with you. I'm not going to be Really? I would be surprised if he didn't get something. I would be surprised just because it's a federal case. Other than that, it, you know, it don't make no never mind to me. I wasn't greased up with no baby oil nowhere. So.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Hey, that. That part crazy. Being the baby oil dude named the Punisher and you watching like, bro, you. You literally sitting there, bro. He probably was like this too, with his arms.

[Ryan]

Take that, take that, take that, take that.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Watching that bro like that to me is that to me is the most crazy. Like you sitting here watching your supposed lady like what, Getting powered? Like what? That. That to me is that right there.

[James Harrison]

Tell you that that relationship that she thought she had with him wasn't the relationship that he had with her.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Absolutely not. Don't. I. I could speak for all of us. We ain't trying to see our lady get smashed by nobody. Not and you watching it. If you watching it, I could give two shits about you. If I'm watching something. I can care less about that. That. But he may not be a good person. It's going to be interesting to see what happens next week if we do get a verdict. But I do. We will. I do believe we'll get one next week. Now we're going to transition.

[Ryan]

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[James Harrison]

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[Ryan]

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[James Harrison]

Megan. Megan.

[Ryan]

Megan.

[James Harrison]

Megan.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Would you prefer that I give you.

[Ryan]

A printout that you could read at your own pace?

[James Harrison]

Megan. Yes, it's me.

[Ryan]

What a shock. Etc on June 27.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

She is a smoking hot warrior princess.

[Ryan]

All right, meat sacks, let's get to work. Are you going to stand in my way? The BE is back.

[James Harrison]

You think you learned your lesson the first time?

[Ryan]

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[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

We'll transition back to football. Okay? One, one more little football take. We'll get into a little basketball, the draft. Dan Campbell. Now I'm asking you this because of the aura you have about yourself, the reputation you have about yourself. So Dan Campbell, he said when he was playing, you know, he played for Bill Parcells. Bill Parcells would literally just yell his name. And that was a sign for Dan Campbell to fight somebody. Cause he didn't like the way Bill Parcells didn't like the way practice was going. And that was Dan Campbell's way to get the team going. You ever been in any situation like that?

[James Harrison]

Nah, I mean to actually like get a fight started. And I don't know, maybe it was different, you know, different times back then. Maybe that's what worked for them, for their, you know, for their team, for that group of people, you know. You know, a fight that, that really. I'm off of practice. Like, like, we gotta fight. Like, I'm trying to finish this. So my thought process on that Doesn't. You know what I'm saying? And depends how, you know, bad the fight is, you know what I'm saying? Like, I done had fights that. In practice, you know what I'm saying?

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Because I believe everybody that's went through training camp, especially when we came in and we.

[James Harrison]

You get a little scuffle, all that you between two cats, you know what I'm saying? But you. Once you get that bra going, where you're trying to get the whole team going, that means you getting the office defense fight started.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Were you getting in fights often again?

[James Harrison]

We didn't. We didn't. We didn't work like that.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

They were scared of you.

[James Harrison]

We didn't. We didn't work like that, dude. We. We went out there and we actually, you know, we. We just worked against each other, you know, like. Like. Like they say, you know, iron, sharp design. Like, I'm going out there and I'm trying to compete against you as hard as possible.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

It ain't no way, bro. Y' all was having some type of fight.

[James Harrison]

I think they had one, like, one thing I think Ryan and them had going on. That was really the only fight that we had, dude. And I wasn't even there for that. I think I was getting surgery or something, so I wasn't even there. And that was over. I believe something of. With AD saying something to Coach LeBeau, it wasn't even, you know, you get a little.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Oh, I remember Ryan telling that story. Yeah, I remember that.

[James Harrison]

You get a little scuffle here and there between guys. But. But when it comes down to it, that's not something that, you know, they.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

You know, they. They.

[James Harrison]

They promoted. Because if you do that in the game, you're getting fined or kicked out the game. So why would you do it in practice?

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

So you played for Bill Coward, and then Mike Tomlin gets hired. What are some. What were the major differences and some of the similarities that you liked and disliked between the two?

[James Harrison]

I liked. I guess I like both their approaches. Some of them were similar. Some of them were different. Different. You know, I only got, like. Think maybe like four years with. With Coward. But the thing that I really liked about him is he was a special teams guy, so he actually ran our special teams meeting. That was something that the whole team sat down and watched. And you'd be sitting in there, dude, and you'd be like, man, you know, I missed that block on the pump, man. I don't know what he gonna do if he go point it out. You know what I'm Saying, so you. You sitting there and you. You know, you biting your nails and stuff. And he would do. He would point out every single thing that somebody did wrong, and he would grind on you with it. And it was the little things, dude. He was into all the details, and he made sure that you were put out in front of everybody and you were held accountable by the whole team. With Mike, the biggest thing, I guess, that I like about him is he is a player's coach. And the thing that I disliked about him is he is a player's coach to a point of. Sometimes it can disrupt, you know what I'm saying? Because it goes maybe a little too far with allowing certain things, you know what I'm saying, With. With certain players, and then it becomes an issue, you know, with that player. So especially, like, towards the end of my career, you know, the. The biggest thing was, you know, you. You ask a tough question, you get a tough answer. Well, I was asking tough questions, and I wasn't getting the answer. You know, I was. You know, I was getting told things that weren't the answer. That was the true answer. So that was something that, you know, towards the end, listen, if you want to sit me here and just have me here, you know, as a security, like to say that I'll sit back and I'll do whatever it is. But, you know, you. You want to sit me here and say you got a plan, but you don't have the plan. So the biggest thing. Ask a tough question, get a tough answer. That didn't come true for me.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Yeah, if you're gonna answer, you're gonna ask a question like, I may not like the answer, but I'm addicted because I'm asking you this question. Okay? So before we go, I don't know, obviously, Oklahoma City, they win the. They win the NBA championship.

[James Harrison]

Yeah.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Did you see Chad Holmgren, Bruh, from Oklahoma City? Chad Holgren was faded. Boy, he was lit like I'm talking. He must have drank bottle after bot. He must. Chet Holmgren was getting drunk before the parade started, okay? That's how faded he was. I didn't win a Super bowl. You won two. Yeah, 2007. And we gonna. We gonna. That was 2007. Your first one, right?

[James Harrison]

No, 2005.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Okay. Okay. 2005. Which should have been our Super Bowl. We gonna get into that tomorrow. We gonna get in that tomorrow. Cause I. And we gonna have them have a sound of when I did the shit that I did. And then I want you to tell the viewers what Coward said. The night before, because I guess everybody keep talking about that when I did what I did. And then Coward. I guess he was mad about that, and I guess he showed that video. So we'll get in that tomorrow. But when you guys won your super bowl, what's the funniest thing or the craziest thing you remember? Not from 2005, but 2009.

[James Harrison]

2009. So it was the parade. And, you know, we're going through the parade. They got us, you know, on these cars and. No, it was 2005. That was 2005. Oh, 2009, I didn't really. 2008, I didn't really get to do much, so I had the trophy in a car by myself, so I really didn't get to do too much.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

But in 2000, okay, go to 2005. Go to the 2005. And we still going to get into that tomorrow.

[James Harrison]

But in 2005, we were just riding on the back of these trucks. So, like, we standing on this brand new trucks. These trucks are getting dented on top of the hoods, on top of the roofs, all that. You know what I'm saying? Dudes don't care. Whatever. So we, like, you know, it's hell, too. So we started jumping out into the crowd, right? Just jumping out. And they catch us and they'd push us back, you know, to the. Yeah, they catch us and then push us back to the trucks or cars, whatever.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Blind face right there.

[James Harrison]

Oh, they do. They catch this it. You couldn't hit the ground to save your life, right? So we jumping out. So we're talking to Troy. We're like, troy, man, come on.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

You got to jump out there, man.

[James Harrison]

Come on. You know, like, come on, Troy. You got to jump, man. So Troy jumps out. They start carrying Troy away from the trucks, out into the crowd. We gotta jump down and go get him. Taking him the other way. They didn't bring him back to the truck. They were like. Like, we like, dude, that's when you triggered another way. Like, we got get it.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Did they. Did they stop the truck?

[James Harrison]

No. So you jump out where it's at. The truck is stopped. So you jump out where it's at. Like, it stops every so often. So you jump out. You jump out. When you jump out, they go and they push you back, you know, they slide you back to the truck. So when Troy jumped out, they started pushing him back away from the truck.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

That's Troy. I know security was like, wait, wait, wait.

[James Harrison]

Man. They were trying to search for.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Did security get involved yeah, we're good.

[James Harrison]

Dude, it was so many, like, people, man. It was hell. They had horses, too, man. One of the horses kicked the.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

And it had to be cold as hell, huh?

[James Harrison]

That's the crazy part. I don't remember the cold. It was cold, though.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

It was faded. You were faded. You don't remember how cold it was because it's in February in Pittsburgh, it's cold as hell.

[James Harrison]

I ain't gonna lie. That first Super Bowl, I don't remember. So it was in Detroit. So my family is in Akron, Ohio, and I guess at, like, some point during the game, they started driving up. So they drove up, and I guess after the game, they got there, and I guess we kicked it. We did it, whatever, all night, all that, right? So in the morning, by the time I got up, went down, you know, started eating and everything, you know, met back up with my parents and stuff, you know, they had already left. And they're like, you. You know, you did this, you did that. I'm like, oh, remember that? It's like your sister, your brother was here. I'm like, but nobody here. I was, dude. I don't know what happened, but somebody gave me something to drink as soon as we was in the locker room. So by time, I was drinking like Gatorade. By time I got on the bus, I don't remember anything from the bus ride, halfway to the bus ride home until I woke up the next morning. The only reason I know they were there is they took pictures. And I'm seeing myself in pictures, arm around people like this. I'm like, oh, my God, they were there. Like, I. I don't remember nothing, dude. So I'm like, you know what? I gotta get to another Super Bowl. And I'm like, this time I'm not. I'm not drinking nothing crazy like that. I want to remember it. You know what I'm saying? So the second one, I was. I was able to remember.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

All right, well, we gonna be back. Appreciate everybody tuning in. Nightcap.

[James Harrison]

This.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Just so everybody know, me and my dog, we coming back tomorrow. Day three.

[James Harrison]

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Day three of the takeover. So y' all make sure y' all, like. Y' all hit the subscribe button. And when you do that, do what I told you earlier. Text a friend, call a friend, tell them to do the same. We'll be back tomorrow. James Harrison, tj. Lucha Mazada. Nightcap. We out. We'll see y' all tomorrow. Hey, and I'm working out tomorrow. I ain't gonna look like that. But I'm working out tomorrow just because of him.

[James Harrison]

Let's go baby. You gotta start somewhere, work out tomorrow.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Just cause of you.

[James Harrison]

I got you.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

But I ain't gonna have a tank top on. I'm gonna have a little shirt on, make it look like I'm bigger than what I am.

[James Harrison]

Yeah, get a smedium.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Yeah man, we see y' all tomorrow.

[James Harrison]

All right now. Later.

[T.J. Houshmandzadeh]

Yes sir, the volume.

[Ryan]

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