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Now let's get on. The jets defeated the Dolphins 32 20. But the big news came out after the game. Tyreek Hill basically said he wanted out of the Dolphins organization. Let's take a listen to the sound, Ocho. Oh, whoa.
Chad Johnson
You know, Snoop did a great job of, you know, filling in whenever he learned the offense, you know, getting us going. But you know, whenever you're missing, you know, your franchise player, man, it kind of sucks. So I don't even know, bro. You know, this is my first time I haven't been in the playoffs, man. So, I mean, for me, like I said, man, I, I, I, I just gotta do what's best for me and my family, dog. If that's here, that's where, wherever the case may be, man, I'm, I'm finna open that door for myself, dog. I'm opening the door like.
Ocho Cinco
I'm out, bro.
Chad Johnson
You know, so it was a great plan here, but, you know, I, at.
Ocho Cinco
The end of the day, bro, I.
Chad Johnson
Gotta do what's best for, you know, for, for my career and you know what's best because I'm too much of a competitor to be, you know, this does it mean. Hey, Ocho, he's emotional, huh? He's emotional after a win, understanding he's always been in the playoffs and then having to be home, you know, he.
Ocho Cinco
Left Patrick Mahomes to go to tua. What did he think? Now, remember, he was running his mouth. TUA is more accurate than Patrick Mahomes.
Chad Johnson
He's sticking up for his quarterback. Don't do that. Come on now, Ocho. Come on.
Ocho Cinco
You mean to tell me, okay, so you gonna say, oh, yeah, but what you call him is more, is better than Tom Brady. Ain't no sense in doing that. Ain't nobody believe that. Ain't nobody said Tua. Plus his injury history, which you knew. But I go to show you, fan, you see 30 million can't buy your happiness when you're getting your eyes beat in. You play with a quarterback that's injury prone. So you're dependent on if the backup can come in and keep that thing going. What's the one thing about how many games does Patrick Mahomes missed? That's why you factor in all of that. When you make a decision like you make, you got the money. But look at them stats. He looking at all them guys that got them stats. Ocho. Tyreek Hill has never not been to the Pro Bowl. Now when they talk about Ocho, last year the players voted him the number one player.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
Where you think he's going to be this year?
Chad Johnson
Let's talk about this.
Ocho Cinco
Go ahead. Let's talk.
Chad Johnson
Where can we see Tyreek Hill going? Being that he's put that out there like that, understanding his frustrations and not having the type of season that Tyreek Hill should have. Who by all means, regardless of this down season, is still a top three, top five wide receiver in this NFL. Correct.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, I. I don't know what he.
Chad Johnson
Oh, hell. Top five.
Ocho Cinco
What? Hey, what? Top five receivers, you know, requesting a trade.
Chad Johnson
Now. I know. Now we not. Now we not gonna do this. We. We not gonna do this on Beyonce's Internet. We not gonna do this on Beyonce's Internet. Tyreek Hill is not a top five player just simply because he had down here. Come on now. Don't. Don't do me like that. Don't do me like that. With understanding to his injuries, backups, things suffer, he can't throw the ball to himself.
Ocho Cinco
Factor that in. When you made that Tua was hurt before you got there. He was hurt in college. You didn't factor that in. You didn't care. Hold on. Every chance he got, he took a shot at the Kansas City Chiefs. They didn't have to trade him. They traded him with years left on his contract. They offered him money, but they couldn't get to the guarantee.
Chad Johnson
They were trying to low ball him. Don't do that. They were trying to lowball Ocho.
Ocho Cinco
Ocho, they. Hold on. You remember the year before they asked him would he restructure the contract. Tyreek Hill said, nah, Once I sign the contract, I sign a contract, right? Ain't no restructuring. Now, what happened to that a year later? If you sign a contract and you don't restructure in their favor. Why should they sign a contract for you in your favor? He said that? I'm just going by what he said. Now. If it's a lie, he said it. We can pull the tapes if you want to. You see? You see what happens? You see what happens when you. Ocho. He didn't have to say Kansas City done right by him. I got fired by cbs. You've never ever heard me utter a bad word about cbs. Fox let me go. I haven't uttered a bad word. They gave me an opportunity. CBS gave me my first media job on network television. The Tiffany network. I'm grateful. FS1 gave me a chance to show that I could do. I could be more than a football player. I could talk about more sports than just football. I'm forever grateful. That's not what he did with Kansas City. Every chance he got, he took a shot at him. Now look at it.
Chad Johnson
Hey, hold on.
Ocho Cinco
He should be made to stay his ass in Miami.
Chad Johnson
Nah, he gonna be all right. He gonna be all right, but we gonna get it done. But you know, once. Once you put the bait out there like that. You know, team gonna come and call in there. Team. Team.
Ocho Cinco
I'm gonna lowball you. Cause I know he won't out. Why would I give you what he's worth when I know he won't out? I know you look. I know your house about to go in foreclosure. I'm not going to give you what it's worth. I know you need to sell that car. I'm not going to give you what it's worth. You got valuable. You got watches. You got whatever the case may be. Why would I pay you what it's worth when I know you got to get up off it? He's seeing. Think about it. Think about how what Hollywood would have looked. A three time Super bowl champ. Now, maybe he doesn't have 1700 yards. But Ocho, what's the difference between 15? You think if. If Tyreek Hill stayed in Kansas City. And instead of having 1700, 1800 yards, he had 1500 yards? Do they view Tyreek any differently? They don't. They don't. They don't.
Chad Johnson
I like, you know. You see how you put the bait out there, though. What if he end. What if he End up back in Kansas City.
Ocho Cinco
I'm sure my homeboy love to have it.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
Come back home, tail tuck between your legs, huh? Oh, you see that, Ocho? It's funny how that thing work, ain't it?
Chad Johnson
Sometimes. Sometimes you got to go back to your ex.
Ocho Cinco
There's no place like home. Isn't that what dark? Whoa, whoa, whoa. You think I'm about to let you sneak that in there? Y'all heard a chat. You think I'm about to sleep? Let you speak that. What you mean? What you try to get at, Ocho?
Chad Johnson
Oh, no, no, no. I'm just saying. I'm just saying in general.
Ocho Cinco
No, no, ain't no. Just. There's never. There's never. There's no such thing as just. There's always a reason. Nobody just does anything. Do you just sit in your car, or do you get in your car to go to work? Or do you get in your car to go to the gym? Or do you get in your car to go to the store? Or do you get in the car to go to the airport? There's never just right. There's always a reason.
Chad Johnson
Now, again, I'm using the reference. I was just using the reference in general. Sometimes. Sometimes you don't understand what you got until it's gone. So, Tyreek, with a great understanding after a short stint here in Miami, what's.
Ocho Cinco
Going that you have a better understanding and appreciation for who? Damn. Can you fly? Let me see you turn your head all the way around. So you ain't no owl. So I ain't talking about you. You. You.
Chad Johnson
Right? I mean, you asked the question again. I didn't hear you.
Ocho Cinco
Nah, I said, what. What have you lost that you realized that is. It was. It's better home than away.
Chad Johnson
I was in reference. We were talking about Tyreek Hill. We were talking about Tyreek.
Ocho Cinco
Okay. Okay.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I do seem to be off track a little bit. I'm not sure where you're going with this.
Ocho Cinco
Hold up, Ben. Mike McDaniel spoke about Tyreek not playing the fourth quarter. Take a listen to what Mike McDaniel had to say.
Chad Johnson
I was informed that he was unavailable in.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Chad Johnson
Right before a drive. I was not informed that it was a new injury. And, you know, I think, you know, at that point in time, my focus was on the players, and I didn't take the time to go try to figure out more into that. Just, there was guys on the field that were competing, and we were trying to win a game, so my focus was there.
Ocho Cinco
That's not A good look, Ocho. That's a horrible look, Ocho. That's what the head coach said. Tyreek Hill took himself out of the game. No different than what Devonda Campbell did. That is absolutely no different.
Chad Johnson
Said it was an injury.
Ocho Cinco
No, no. Mike McDaniel just said he was breathed that there was no new injury.
Chad Johnson
Oh, I thought. Wait, are you sure that's what he said? I thought he just said he took.
Ocho Cinco
That's exactly what he said. That. No, you didn't know. You heard it. You heard it right the first time.
Chad Johnson
Built up frustration, man. One of the greatest.
Ocho Cinco
So let me ask you a question. He frustrated. Do you think he gonna get that check tomorrow? So he's not gonna be too frustrated not to get that check, but he too frustrated to take his ass in the game. You see?
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
This is why NFL players don't get guaranteed money. This is the argument that those owners use. Oh, no, you can't use. We know. It's bull jive. You can't quit Ocho style. You made excuses for the man when the man told you. Why you do that? Why you make excuses for these guys? Ocho make no excuse. You just said it was a new injury. Mike McDaniel said he was informed that the man said he was unavailable and it was to his knowledge. It was not an injury. A new injury.
Chad Johnson
No, he said it was a new injury. Do you.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, rewrite that sound.
Chad Johnson
Right. Listen to it again. I was informed that he was unavailable and.
Ocho Cinco
Right.
Chad Johnson
Right before a drive. I was not informed that it was a new injury. And, you know, I think, you know, at that point in time, my focus was on the players, and I didn't take the time to go try to figure out more into that. Just there was guys on the field that were competing.
Ocho Cinco
You're trying to win a game, you want to try to make another excuse for it, Go ahead. Floor is yours.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I heard it that time. He wasn't informed about a new injury, but he was informed about the old one.
Ocho Cinco
Let's move on. I'm not finna get into it about you. The Patriots defeated the Bills 23 to 16. After the game, Jared Mayo was informed he would not be returning as the head coach.
Chad Johnson
Now, we just talked about this. We just talked about this last night on. We just talked about this last night on Mike Vrabel. You put up the goddamn avatar with you in your New England Patriots uniform. You knew what that meant. I told you. You listen. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. He knew the job was his already. They had Been talking. That's tampering. You gave Gerard Mayo one year. One year is not enough time to do anything in the NFL. Nothing at all.
Ocho Cinco
The question is that one year with those same players, how many games did Coach Belichick get win? Oh, snap. Those were the same players that Coach Belichick had. They got the third pick in the draft. What draft did they get this year? The fourth pick in the draft with a lot of the same players. The only difference, they got a quarterback. They drafted a rookie quarterback. Drake.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. So I have a question. Since Gerard Mayo's lease was so short, being a year, Mike Vrabel comes in, I'm assuming, we're all assuming that Mike Vrabel is going to be the next head coach of the New England Patriots, what's going to happen next? How short is his leash going to be?
Ocho Cinco
It ain't gonna be one year.
Chad Johnson
Or does he get a little bit more grace?
Ocho Cinco
Coach Belichick was 5 and 11, if I'm not mistaken. He got another year. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying there's anything funny. I'm not saying anything. I'm just saying that's what Coach Belichick got. Gerard Mayo was supposedly handpicked by the Kraft family, mainly Mr. Kraft. And he got one year. But I told you last night, he was. He understood that if he didn't hire Mike Brable now, he was not going to get a chance to hire him, because Mike Brable was going to get hired.
Chad Johnson
He was going to get hired on the coaching cycle.
Ocho Cinco
Yep.
Chad Johnson
He was definitely getting hired.
Ocho Cinco
Yep.
Chad Johnson
Damn, man. That's not. I mean, listen. The business has always been the business. The game has always been the game. And when it comes to the business, sometimes the business is dirty.
Ocho Cinco
It is.
Chad Johnson
And this in the fact that Gerard Mayo, I think, is not as bad for him. He lives in Foxborough. He was already there. He was under Belichick's tutelage. I was just thinking about, for family and circumstances of having to pick up and move and leave and stuff like that.
Ocho Cinco
But obviously, man, I'm not leaving in no Foxborough. That man ain't gonna live in no Foxborough. He not the coach.
Chad Johnson
But he's been coaching there for years. Huh? He's been in Foxborough since he's been.
Ocho Cinco
How about you say what you just said? Repeat what you just said to the chat. He's been doing what?
Chad Johnson
Living in Foxborough.
Ocho Cinco
Doing what?
Chad Johnson
Coaching.
Ocho Cinco
Okay, so what is he doing now in Foxborough?
Chad Johnson
Well, he's not. Nothing. He's no longer.
Ocho Cinco
Thank you.
Chad Johnson
Oh, I have a question. Is it disrespectful? Is it disrespectful for Braywood to have him on his staff?
Ocho Cinco
Why would I want to be a head coach? I was the head coach and now I'm going to be. I'm going to be a. A D coordinator or an assistant on the staff.
Chad Johnson
I'm asking you, I'm asking the question, you know, you know how that. You know how the coaching world works. You always keep a job when you're in certain circles. You always keep a job when you are in certain circles. I'm just curious.
Ocho Cinco
Question. Here's the thing. This is not gonna be a situation where I don't believe Mr. Kraft will pick anybody on Mike Brable's staff. That'll be a Mike Brable decision. Yeah. Me personally, I don't know if I'm the head coach, get to get fired, and all of a sudden I come back and I'm the defensive coordinator. Right Now I might go somewhere else and be a Decoont.
Chad Johnson
Right?
Ocho Cinco
But I don't know if I could be able to be that there coacho. I'm just being honest.
Chad Johnson
Right, right, right, right, right. I mean, listen. Whoa. And another thing. Now we don't get the opportunities as often as others. That's why I was saying, if the opportunity presented itself, do you take it or do you sit back and say, no, you know what? I had my time here. My time here is done. I'm going to move on and hopefully I get a chance somewhere else, maybe to be a head coach or maybe to do what I do best, and that is be a defensive coordinator.
Ocho Cinco
Let me ask you this. How many years did he get? He did get a three or four year deal.
Chad Johnson
Man, why are all these lights on, man? I'm not paying this electric bill.
Ocho Cinco
He signed a seven year deal. Yeah. Oo, yeah, that man signed a seven year deal. He got one.
Chad Johnson
And listen, he got to pay that whole.
Ocho Cinco
No, he decided he signed. No, he signed like a four year.
Chad Johnson
They got. Hey, hey, they gotta, they gotta pay that whole thing, right?
Ocho Cinco
No, no, no. He got. I think he signed a four year deal.
Chad Johnson
I mean, they got to pay that whole four years, right?
Ocho Cinco
Unless he go gets another job and then it's offset. So whatever he does, whatever he. They'll make it up, Right, right, right. College, you don't really have offset. I think it was like a three or four year deal.
Chad Johnson
That hurt, boy. Just think about it, boy.
Ocho Cinco
Well, that should have been. That should have told him three years. Most coaches get five, six.
Chad Johnson
Now that's crazy.
Ocho Cinco
At minimum, right?
Chad Johnson
You don't feel bad.
Ocho Cinco
What was the Matt Rule? Got like a six or eight year deal when he went to Carolina.
Chad Johnson
Carolina. Yeah. Coaches got it good.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. Vance Joseph left. He was the head coach. He got fired. He went as a D.C. yeah, there was in between. He was a D.C. went boom, went to the Cardinals, came back to the Broncos as a D.C. right. Yeah. Could I see that? But no, to be on that staff after being the head coach. Nah, I'm good. I'll sit this one out.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
Lee, I think it was a three year deal. It had to be. I think it's three. Yeah. But maybe what? Maybe an option. But that should have gave you a clue because most coaches now signing five.
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Ocho Cinco
Oh, yeah. The Commanders beat the Dallas Cowboys. Jaren Jones. The Commanders come up. Excuse me. The Cowboys lose to the Commanders 23:19 after play by Mariota to Terry McClure. Excuse me. Jerry Jones saved 550,000 by not playing Cooper Rush today to avoid a snap incentive, but claims he didn't know. Let's take a listen to the sound of Jerry talking after the game.
Chad Johnson
I didn't even know about it until.
Ocho Cinco
I read about it.
Chad Johnson
So nothing. Nothing at all. Those incentives are in there for the.
Ocho Cinco
Team, and we put them in there.
Chad Johnson
So that if someone is, in his case, as a backup quarterback, cast and play, they've got the financial incentives. But they're usually put in there because of people representing it, and there should be.
Ocho Cinco
So he did really earn some pretty.
Chad Johnson
Serious incentives this year.
Ocho Cinco
Didn't I tell yo Joe, Chad? Didn't I tell y'all? Jerry didn't know what the hell he was doing. How you the general manager? You the one that do the contracts? I thought. Oh, Joan, if you do the contract. Oh, they're put in there. So you mean to tell me an agent could sneak some stuff by somebody? Of course not. The general manager reads over everything. You see what I'm saying? Chat. All you have to do is listen to Jerry, and Jerry will really tell you how little he knows about the game.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, he knew about them goddamn incentives. He knew about them damn incentives. Why in the hell did they just start Trey Lance? Just for the sake of. For the sake of things. The last week of the season, you knew what you was doing. You didn't want to make money. We've heard stories like this. This happens all the time. It happened all the time. And this was done purposely. And, you know, to us, you know, to. To the people in the chat, 500,000 is a lot of money. But when you think about it, to someone like Jerry, your penny pension, why you penny pinching?
Ocho Cinco
Well, you see what it cost him. Derrick Henry had more rush yards by himself than the entire Cowboys organization. Cowboys had 1500 yards rushing and five touchdowns. Derek Henry had 19, 21 and 16 touchdowns. But you somehow you thought Zeke was a better option than Derek Henry. Derek Henry cost the Ravens two years, $16 million. Now, there's an offer that probably considering he played so well, they'll probably give. They probably give him another extra year. Probably bump that up to about 12 million because I believe Derrick Henry has, at bare minimum, have at least two more years at. Two more at the level that he might not rush for another 1900, but can I interest you in 1500? Yeah. Playing with Lamar. Cause Lamar hand the ball to him and roll out to the backside. He gonna hold that backside in retiring not daring him and bend that thing back. But this is embarrassing. Jerry should stop speaking. He really. Because he makes himself look bad. He really does. He makes himself look. He makes himself look awful.
Chad Johnson
I don't think he cares.
Ocho Cinco
He doesn't care, but he cares. Oh, he absolutely cares. Because privately, when people. When people that he has a relationship with and they say stuff. Oh, he reach out. He cares. He absolutely cares.
Chad Johnson
I know one thing. He knew Cooper Rush had that goddamn incentive in the damn contract. Owners know all that stuff. They know everything. They're brief on who's to get paid what before a game is happening, what money is supposed to be shelled out, what players need catches, runs, passes, throws, percentages. They know all that. They're briefed on it before those games come up the following week. He knew. That's why the decision was made to bench him, to make sure he didn't hit those incentives.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, but I honestly, Ocho, I mean, Cooper Royce. I mean Cooper Royce, Trey Lance ain't look too bad.
Chad Johnson
Nah, he ain't look too bad.
Ocho Cinco
I mean, obviously he got legs, but we know he got legs, but I mean, look, he missed a throw. He had Diedell. He tried to aim it and it nose dived on him. But I mean, hey, maybe with some reference. Look, I ain't saying he about to be Jayden Daniels. I'm not saying he gonna be any of these guys. That. I ain't saying all that.
Chad Johnson
Right?
Ocho Cinco
But I think he showed me enough, right, that if the Cowboys don't bring him back, somebody else is going to give him an opportunity. They, they, they're going to give him an opportunity. But Marcus Mariota had a 15 or 18, 161, two touchdowns. J D was 6 or 12. Cowboys are what we thought they'd be.
Chad Johnson
I mean, is it, is it, Are the Cowboys what we thought they'd be or the Cowboys of what they've always been?
Ocho Cinco
Both.
Chad Johnson
Okay.
Ocho Cinco
Two things can be true.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully they get things together next year because I like the Cowboys. I like the Cowboys fans, I like the Cowboys players. I don't like the people that actually run the cow. Not personally. I'm just saying the way they do things.
Ocho Cinco
This was the first time. I don't think. I think the Cowboys fans come to the realization.
Chad Johnson
You think they get it?
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, they're not delusional anymore.
Chad Johnson
I don't know.
Ocho Cinco
They realize that Jerry's the issue and they're not going to go anywhere. This is the first time that I actually think that's, that's, that's what happened.
Chad Johnson
I think it'll be the same thing next year. Training camp is going to be filled up. Jerry's World. September, September 9th. Whenever the season starts, preseason, Jerry's world is going to be filled up. As long as I'm coming in, nothing is going to stop. Nothing going to change.
Ocho Cinco
Jerry Jones also praised McCarthy but wouldn't commit to the future. This is what James Slater tweeted earlier. Jane. I know Jane. She's come on FS1 undisputed a couple of times. I love her when she talks about the Cowboys.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, she know her business.
Ocho Cinco
Jerry Jones kept talking about wanting a coach that would agree to an incentive based contract. Ocho, I'm not going to give you X. But if you win the division, if you get to the NFC championship game, you win the Super Bowl. That's not how coaches work. But check this out. But I argue the market pays otherwise. Then he said he didn't want anyone who didn't want to be here. But I argue. But if someone doesn't make you feel like you're wanting, why would you? Make no mistake, there are plenty of coaches who want this job. He's not wrong about. Coach's job requires a level of ambiguity that he might not subscribe. He might subscribe to, but others struggle to stomach. So in other words, he know there's only 32 of them. Ocho.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
There's only 32 NFL head coaches. The Dallas Cowboys is the most visible, most recognizable pro sports team in all the world. You take those soccer clubs, you take all of them. The Dallas Cowboys is more valuable than all of them. They make more money than all of them. 10.1 billion. That is what they're worth. Jerry knows that. But you see, oh, I'm. Why the f. Would I take an incentive based contract? Considering you get all the control. I don't get no say in the final 53. I get no say in the draft. I get no say in pregnancy. But you, you really control my destiny. Ocho.
Chad Johnson
I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it. And you say it's probably one of the most prominent, you know, coaching jobs there is out there. But who wants to go? Who wants to go coach there? Who would want to go? Listen, if you go, if you go coach in the circus, you won't be able to tell the difference from the clowns. I said, I said that. I said that quote wrong. I said it wrong. But you get what I'm saying?
Ocho Cinco
Yes.
Chad Johnson
No. Who would want to do that?
Ocho Cinco
Ocho?
Chad Johnson
Yes.
Ocho Cinco
This man said he want his coach to take an incentive based contract.
Chad Johnson
He's unserious. He's unserious. He's unserious. This is why things are going the way they're going. Very unserious. And oh, man, he dead serious. Incentive.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, yeah. Oh, he absolutely serious.
Chad Johnson
Dead serious. It's almost laughable.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. Until He. I'm sorry, players. I can't openly root for the Cowboys.
Chad Johnson
I'm rooting for the players. I'm rooting for Dak and cdn.
Ocho Cinco
I can't. Because it's fruit of the poisonous tree. It's contaminated because he owns the team and the things that he's done, they're just employed.
Chad Johnson
So I'm.
Ocho Cinco
It's called fruit. You know what fruit of the poisonous tree is?
Chad Johnson
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Ocho Cinco
Okay, so it's contaminated. I can't. But hey, and I like, I like a lot of the players. I do. But I will call the ass out when I think they don't play to the level of the standard that they should be.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
As a player in this league, given their tenure. Absolutely. I'm gonna call them out. Absolutely. But nah, not them. Not with, with him. Nah, I'm good. Oh, Mike Evans extends his 1000 yard streak. Matches Jerry Rice all time. Instead of taking a knee to run out the clock, The Buccaneers won one last play to get Mike Evans $3 million bonus. It was Mike Evans 11th straight 1,000 yard season.
Chad Johnson
Live, that's live now. Now you, you see the difference. You see that? You see the difference.
Ocho Cinco
I wonder if that dream knew that. You think that GM knew that Mike needed the doggone right.
Chad Johnson
They knew it because they talked about it on TV before it even happened. You know, Mike being able to reach his incentive, the $3 million incentive. Yes, the GM knew. He understood. He was going to make sure Mike got it. No, that's, that's the difference.
Ocho Cinco
I love it. I love it.
Chad Johnson
Difference.
Ocho Cinco
I love it. I love when teams reward their players. Mike Evans has been nothing but a model citizen for Tampa. He had an opportunity to possibly leave for greener pastures and free agencies. He took less money because his family was there. He's been great in the community and he's like, you know what? I want to be a one helmet guy. And they rewarded him for that loyalty. They've been loyal to him. He's been loyal to them. He's been nothing but a great player and a great ambassador for that organization. And this is how it should be. When someone have rewarded you with their play and their loyalty, I believe a team should pay that back. Not all teams do this. A lot of times loyalty only goes one way. It normally goes player to team. And the team never reciprocates that loyalty to the player like it's been reciprocated because even Tom Brady, every y'all talk about Tom Brady did all that. At the end of the day what did the Patriots do?
Chad Johnson
Hey, it's a dirty game. The game is the game. Business. Business.
Ocho Cinco
Mike Evans, congratulations. One of the great receivers in NFL history. 11 straight seasons of a of 1,000 receiving yards. We thought that record was in jeopardy. O remember he pulled his hamstring. He missed three games. Hey, but Baker say bro. Come on back. I got you. So, Mike, congratulations. Very well deserved. 11 straight seasons of 1,000 yards. Only Jerry Rice has more. 14.
Chad Johnson
That's live.
Ocho Cinco
The Eagles defeated the Giants 20 to 13. Chatter around the league. Joe Jo, Joe Shine with showing will remain with the Giants, but Brian Dayball is out. Ocho, do you agree? Should Mara have just cleared house?
Chad Johnson
You know what, Tom? With no quarterback, you know what's going to happen, right?
Ocho Cinco
Who? The quarterback that. Who the. Who was the GM that paid the quarterback?
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
Who was the GM that got rid of Saquon?
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
Who was the GMthat drafted Evan Neal? Who was that GM?
Chad Johnson
Yeah, you. Right, but listen, I'm saying firing Brian Day Ball and you're bringing in someone new and you're bringing in someone new to the exact same situation. Because until you resolve the quarterback issue, it's going to be the same cycle repeating itself in the next two to three years until you get a quarterback in there that you continue to build a team around.
Ocho Cinco
Is. Hold on. Is that the coach job or the GM's job?
Chad Johnson
The GM.
Ocho Cinco
Okay, so why the coach going in the GM stand? Because he picked those players.
Chad Johnson
Well, you. You preaching to the choir. You preaching to the choir. But usually when you're a position of power, you. You get to call the shots and do what you want to do. You make mistakes you don't have to take no accountability for.
Ocho Cinco
Put that up on somebody else, huh?
Chad Johnson
There it is. There it is. And that is exactly what they're doing. Well, you know what? I didn't do this right, but you know I'mma fire you. It's your fault.
Ocho Cinco
The Giant. Look, the only thing the Giants have Malik Neighbors is legit 109 catches, the second most in a rookie season. Brock Byers broke that record late. I think he had like 110. He almost broke the. The record for most catches by tight end. He finished a little. Just a little short of Zach er's record of 116. Malik, my neighbors, that catch, that touchdown catch and run that he had. Sensational. Yeah, they got plenty of money. I'm trying to get a quarterback. Maybe you need a stopgap. Now, that doesn't stop me from drafting one. But in the meantime, do I go out and do I pay a, or do I pay a Sam Darnold?
Chad Johnson
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Stop right there. Minnesota is not letting Sam Donald get about that building. I can tell you that right now.
Ocho Cinco
The man, he traded Leonard Williams. Remember Leonard Williams had a heck of a season in Seattle?
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
Remember the man gave up two first round picks hold up in Brian Burns and the Giants.
Chad Johnson
Brian Burns came from Carolina to the Giants. Right?
Ocho Cinco
But somebody offered two first round, hold.
Chad Johnson
On.
Ocho Cinco
What do you give up to get Brian Burns? They had, they didn't give up too much. But here's the thing. Carolina F that up because somebody had two first rounders on the table for him and they turned, they rebuffed that only to take a second of a fifth. So. But it's just some things. It's just stuff that. It was just stuff that, that the gentleman, I don't know how he keeps his job in Brian Dabon. I'm not, look, I'm not an advocate for Brian Dabal, right? But I'm definitely not an advocate for the general manager. That was terrible. That's been terrible, Just awful. The Bears did something they haven't done oo since 2018.
Chad Johnson
Oh yeah.
Ocho Cinco
They defeated the packers on a walk off 51 yard field goal, 24 to 22. Green Bay was right to play for the sixth seed in week 18. But leaving the game with injury. Christian Watson with a knee. Jordan Love with an elbow. Scary times in Green Bay. You have to wait. There was no diagnosis after the game, so we'll have to wait. I'm sure they're going to get MRIs tomorrow. Watson looked like a non contact. It didn't look good. It did not look good. Ocho. Jordan Love elbow. He left the game, did not come back. Caleb Williams, 21, 29, 148 a touchdown. D.J. moore, nine catches, 86 yards with a touchdown. Keenan had three for 25. Malik Willis, 10 or 13, bro. Malik, if you want to play a lot long time in NFL, you better see that pre release safety that hit you in your damn chest. Now you lucky that was a safety. What if that was a linebacker, Ocho?
Chad Johnson
Ooh, it wouldn't have been nice. That wouldn't have been nice.
Ocho Cinco
How you not, Ocho? How you not see that?
Chad Johnson
He didn't see it. You know, you know when the game, when the game is moving, Ocho, I'm.
Ocho Cinco
A right handed quarterback, right? That guy hit me in my face. Do you know how hard it is for a guy to get a shot that Ain't a blind. Yes, you right handed. That guy hit you in your face, not your back. The left side is your blind side. You a right handed quarterback, Ocho, did he not hear the line? It looked like they lived the call, right? Any man of the line of scrimmage is your guy. You got to throw hot off him.
Chad Johnson
He never saw him, did the receipt. The receiver ran the hot rod.
Ocho Cinco
He didn't even look to see he did. No joke. I'm just being honest. You remember early in his rookie season, Justin Fields got caught with a shot just like that. They knocked his helmet off.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I remember that. I remember that. I remember that.
Ocho Cinco
You don't want to take too many of those shots. Not no clear shot like that. You will get enough hits in your back. You know, you throw the ball, Ocho, they get you at the last second, bro. You don't want to make a living taking crash, crash dummy shots like that.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
As we was talking to CM Punk, I mean you're like, okay, I can. This is an opportunity. The Bears showed me a little something today.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, now, it was ojo.
Ocho Cinco
It wasn't great. No, they only had little over 200 yards. Yeah, 230, 240.
Chad Johnson
But it gives you. Give you.
Ocho Cinco
Caleb Williams was 21 of 29. Okay, that's good. Knife. He made some throws. Sometimes I think he tries to throw too much off balance. But the throw he had to DJ Moore was off balance. Change arm angles. But I think with the right coach, I think they could. I. I think they got talent on the opposite side.
Chad Johnson
I was just getting ready to say that. You get the right coach in there, you know, with him, boy, sky's the limit. Sky's the limit. You can see Caleb Williams gives you hope. Caleb Williams gives you promise, you know, based on what you know you can do Again, I say it about quarterbacks all the time. He plays good in spurts, but you can see the potential. Let him get the right coach now and watch what happens.
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Ocho Cinco
This is Matt Jones. Drew Franklin from the Fade this podcast. We got a great episode coming up. Picks in all the sports. Football, basketball, we do them all. But here's a preview of this week's episode.
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Ocho Cinco
And this episode was brought to you in partnership with DraftKings. To hear more, listen and subscribe to Fade this on iheartradio or wherever you listen to podcasts. Ojo yeah. Panthers have defeated the Falcons in overtime. Bryce Young does it. They walk it off. 4438 Bryce Young accounts for 5 5. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. 3 passing, 2 rushing as they beat the Falcons 44, 38 and OT. Falcons missed the playoffs. Ah, I think Bryce. I think Carolina found a quarterback of the future. They had him all along. Guys started making plays. If you go back and look at that game, look at them guys making plays. Coker made some hell of a plays Adam Thielen made. I mean, guys made tough catches today, Ocho. That's what you have to do. Yeah, guys have to make. I mean, you have to make tough catches for a guy. I mean, damn, the guy can't put it between the numbers all the time.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, just is anywhere in the vicinity. Just put it in the area.
Ocho Cinco
You got a young quarterback, he's struggling. Make some tough catches. Let him get some confidence. He was 24, 25 and 34, 251, three touchdowns. Michael Penny Jr. Had an outstanding day and a losing effort. He was 21 of 36, three 12, two touchdowns, one interception. Bijan Robinson had a monster day running the football. 28 rushes, 170 yards, two TDs. They ran the ball 36 times. 227 Drake London. Monster Day.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
10 catches, a buck 87, two TDs, 18 targets. Ray. Ray McLeod had four for 66. Kyle Pierce had two. Three targets, two. Two catches, 15 yards. They're a couple of players away. I think Carolina. Look, I'm not saying they about to be Detroit and they about to switch this thing around.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
But I know they got their quarterback now. Get them. Get him a little offensive line. Look, did a great job. He got no sacks. Protect him a little better. Get a couple of offensive linemen.
Chad Johnson
Hey, you know, keep building. If they get. If they get them, I ain't seeing a. If they get like a. I'm not saying there is one out there like a Jamar Chase a Justin Jefferson, like a Malik neighbors.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Johnson
I'm talking about one of them LeBron, Tom and Junior. One of them type like. One of them type like. Yeah, like. Like that. That boy. You know what I'm trying to say?
Ocho Cinco
Yes, I absolutely know what you're trying to say, man.
Chad Johnson
Listen, stop playing, you know.
Ocho Cinco
Cause I like. I like Bryce Young. Yeah. He's frail. Yeah, he's 5, 10. Yeah, he's thin, Ocho. He's never gonna be 220.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
So stop saying if he gained weight. He not. That's not his frame. His frame can't carry 220.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, and what is.
Ocho Cinco
That's like trying. That's like trying to put a 18 wheeler motor in a. In a Volkswagen, there's no point.
Chad Johnson
What is 18? What is 220 gonna do and help with his skill set?
Ocho Cinco
Nothing.
Chad Johnson
His game.
Ocho Cinco
Nothing. You like. You. You like him to gain a little weight to see if he can gain 10 pounds on choke? Yeah, because he look like he bought 180 on choke. You want to take some. You want to take some of that? You want some cushion to take some.
Chad Johnson
Of them blows Punishment.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, but he not going to be. No, he not going to be. He's. He's not going to be an overly large man. That's not his frame. So we can stop that. But the Panthers win the final game of the season. 4,438 in overtime. Bryce Young, five touchdowns, three passing, two rushing. You have to feel he had. You have to feel good with what you saw with Bryce Young today. Those young receivers stepped up defensively. Look, they gave up, but they got to stop when they needed it. And here we are. Bryce Young did it. The Cardinals defeated the 49ers 47, 24. Kyler ends the season with a four touchdown day. Is Kyler Oo. Let me ask you this.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
Do you keep Kyler, try to build or what are you going to do with Kyler? Well, you keep caliber.
Chad Johnson
What you mean?
Ocho Cinco
Okay.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, you. You keeping that. You keeping young? Well, young Bull is nice.
Ocho Cinco
You think Kyle is happy in Arizona?
Chad Johnson
Damn. That's a good question, though. I would think so. You have a. You have a. You have an okay offensive line. You got James Connor, you got Marvin Harrison Jr. I mean, do you really. Do you really. You look at the landscape of the NFL. Any other team that you can go to, any other team you can go to, where you gonna go, huh?
Ocho Cinco
I like it. He played. He played extremely well today.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
25, 35, 242, four touchdowns. Trey McBride got another touchdown. 765, one touchdown. Marvin Harrison Jr. 563, one touchdown. Dort. Four for 47, two touchdowns. Zay Jones, I think that's Zay Jones. Four for 46. They were out James Connor, but they ran the ball 27 times for 151. Joshua Dobbs didn't play bad. Turned the ball over. He got a cut down on turnovers. 29 of 43, 326, Ricky Piero 6 for 69 on the touchdown. Cal Usch had a touchdown. But when you turn the ball over, don't call free time. You're probably going to lose the game, especially when you play on the road. And 49ers defense all I know is Steve Wilkes. That defense didn't look like that when they had Steve Wilk calling play. That's all I'm saying. Look, that's all I'm saying, right? I know Kyle. I've been knowing Kyle since he was this tall.
Chad Johnson
Yes, sir.
Ocho Cinco
Love to shatter head, but I'm just saying sometimes. Hey, keep what you got. The Chargers defeated the Raiders 34 to 20. Jim Harbaugh 11 and six in the regular season. They travel. They're the. It's five seed, right? They're the five seed. So they play Houston. They could eas. They could win that game, Ocho. Yeah, they absolutely could win that game.
Chad Johnson
They could win that game. And also we can see a. A very, very good game from CJ Shroud as well.
Ocho Cinco
Yes.
Chad Johnson
So it depend on what quarterback we see from CJ Stroud.
Ocho Cinco
This could be a. Definitely be a scoring game, Ocho. Yeah, I can see. I can see this game being a 30, a 31 easy 28, you know, 31, 34, 34, 33. Some type of game like that. Justin Herbert was 26 of 36. 346, two touchdowns. They ran the ball 35 times for 137. Quentin Johnson 13, a buck 86. Lad McConkey 5 for 95, disly 5 for 42. J.K. dobbins at 18 rushing 63 yards. Justin Herbert had four rushes for 42 yards. He had a long of 41. Haskins had 12 for 33. So they basically had. They had almost four, 500 yards of total offense. Jacobe Myers, nine, 123, a touchdown. Brock Bowers 4 for 50. It's hard to win without a coach. I mean, without a quarterback on. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna. Damn. Who you coaching? Did you see Coach Belichick? Go check Coach Belichick's record without a quarterback. Don Shuler. Don Shuler had all those wins. Don Shuler. Let me tell you who Don Shuler quarterbacks were. Y'all might have heard of him. Johnny Unitis.
Chad Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Ocho Cinco
Bob Greasy.
Chad Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Ocho Cinco
Dan Marino. Have y'all heard of any of those quarterbacks? Oh, you have?
Chad Johnson
Yeah. And it wasn't no slouches either, now.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, all First Battle hall of Famers.
Chad Johnson
Real deal.
Ocho Cinco
Okay, okay, so. So you guys have heard of it. But man, look, John Harbaugh is gonna get some serious coach into your consideration now. I think Kevin O'Connell is going to win the award going 143 with Minnesota. And he did it with a back a quarterback that many didn't expect. To play. I don't care what y'all say. Minnesota, if they thought. If they thought Sam Darnold was going to do this, they would not have drafted a quarterback.
Chad Johnson
Right?
Ocho Cinco
Exactly. So we can put that to bed. But Jim Harbaugh, it normally takes him.
Chad Johnson
Like a year to get it going.
Ocho Cinco
He turned it around a lot sooner than people anticipated. We knew the turnaround was going to happen because the turnaround has happened every place that he's been.
Chad Johnson
Right.
Ocho Cinco
There's no denying his track record. You go back and look at San Diego, you go back and look at Stanford, you go look at 49ers, you go look at Michigan. The turnaround is going to happen, and it happened. So congratulations, Chargers going to the playoffs. Congratulations, Coach Harbaugh.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
The Colts defeated the Jags 23, 26, 23 in overtime. Pat McAfee's suite was empty at today's game. The Colts are retaining Shane Steichen and GM Chris Ballard, per Jim Irsay. P. Mack has been very outspoken. He doesn't like the culture. Some of the players, they've been outspoken. They didn't like the critique that PMAC has offered. PMAC is Pat McAfee. I call him PMAC.
Chad Johnson
Right.
Ocho Cinco
PMAC have offered, and they've kind of been going back and forth, so. Joe Flacco was 23 of 42, 64, 1 touchdowns, no interception. Jonathan Taylor, 34 rushes, 177 yards. Mack Jones was 20 of 32, 225, 1 touchdown, 1 interception. Brian Thomas Jr. Ocho, 7 catches, a buckle, 3. He was. He was. He was sensational again. But I think the thing is, like, what I had to do, Ocho, is I had to divorce myself from it.
Chad Johnson
Right?
Ocho Cinco
When you with an organization and you want the best for it and you see guys not playing and you become like, I was like, bro, I got to stop because it's taking its toll on me. And. And that's how PBAC is. PMAC going to have to divorce himself for that? Because he gonna give himself an answer because he cares the team that he played for and he's, you know, he's big in the community. PMAC gives back, and he just wants what's best for the organization. And it's just hard when he. He doesn't think the players are playing or doing the right thing, that. That. That's conducive for winning.
Chad Johnson
I understand. I understand where he's coming from, especially when you play for organization. I'm not sure how long he played there, but I totally get where he's coming from now, obviously, I mean, on. On my end. On your end, you've. You've never had the really to. To. To say anything when it came to the Broncos players or it came to the Ravens players, because they've always given their all just in general, you know, when it comes to my Bengals, hell, I mean, outside of us having, you know, playing bad defense, you know, throughout the entire season, outside of the back half, you know, I don't criticize them, you know, too much.
Ocho Cinco
No.
Chad Johnson
But Pete Mack, hey, he got them boys hot, boy.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, he got them hot. He got them boys hot for me. I just, like I say what I said, I'm done with it. I'm not going back and forth with no players.
Chad Johnson
Right, right, right.
Ocho Cinco
I'm not jealous of y'all. I don't care what y'all think. My job is to critique and analyze. And you know I'm very passionate about what I do.
Chad Johnson
Right.
Ocho Cinco
I don't take no malicious shots at you. I'm not talking about what you may or may not do off the field. Unless, obviously, sometimes we have to talk about guys getting DUIs or doing things like that on show. But other than that, even if I know something, I keep it to the football aspect of it because I don't feel it's my fair. I'm not an investigative journalist or I'm not a tabloid journalist where I'm salacious details of things like that. So it is tough when you want the team to win so bad and you don't think. You think, guys, the team is not holding guys accountable and the guys are not being accountable.
Chad Johnson
Right.
Ocho Cinco
Kind of goes hand in hand. You should be professional sometimes. Everybody's not going to always be professional, but when they're not, that's when you step. That's one of an organization leaders. Coach step in and says, okay, this is what's required. This is what we expect you to do. But whatever reason, that hadn't happened, Ocho. So Pbank said what he said, and a lot of the players didn't take too kindly to that. Now it's time for our last segment of the evening. It's time for Q&A. JPS World said Ocho gonna need a G wagon to get all those Buffalo nickels to lol. Big fan. You guys complete my. In my evening every night. Jps. Thank you, bro. I appreciate that. Yeah, Ocho, you ain't gonna be able to put the Buffalo nickels in that Ferrari.
Chad Johnson
Listen, you don't. You don't want that money, man. You don't want that money.
Ocho Cinco
I do. I want it. I want to wear. I want to. Give me some chrome hard jeans. I want to get me a chrome hard. A puffer. I want to get me. I want to get me a resharp.
Chad Johnson
Hold on, hold on. Listen, if you want some chrome hard stuff, I got my dude working the design jersey here in Miami. His name is Arthur. Ask for him. Boom, there you go. He got you.
Ocho Cinco
Okay. What about that Richard Mille, huh?
Chad Johnson
Talk to me.
Ocho Cinco
What about that Richard Mille?
Chad Johnson
Oh, the rich. The Richard Millie store is right.
Ocho Cinco
It ain't Richard Miller. It's Richard Mill.
Chad Johnson
Okay? However you want to say it, it's in Brickell. There's a Richard Millie store. I can see. I can see the guy's information. I have his card. You can treat yourself because I know you like watches.
Ocho Cinco
What about. What about the Ferrari?
Chad Johnson
That's old.
Ocho Cinco
I've been had the f. It ain't old.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, it is. Oh, that's old.
Ocho Cinco
There it is right there. What happened to Saban?
Chad Johnson
I do save.
Ocho Cinco
No, no, no, no. You said Ocho is the attraction. He doesn't need a Ferrari. He doesn't need a Lamborghini. I drive a smart car.
Chad Johnson
I don't. If you notice, I put on clothes. It was a date night. I went on a date with this chick, okay?
Ocho Cinco
Chrome heart pumper vest, 6900. Chrome heart jeans, 10 5. Richard Mille 300K. Air Force One, 115. What model Ferrari is that? F90.
Chad Johnson
F8.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, so we go 350, huh? Interesting. Got it saved.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I do save so I can listen. You're not used to seeing me do this, but because I've saved over the years, because I am financially conscious, I can treat myself occasionally and pull a move like this. 12 years removed from the game of football.
Ocho Cinco
When I wanted to treat myself, you.
Chad Johnson
Told me no and not blink an eye.
Ocho Cinco
No, I told you.
Chad Johnson
I told you don't be flying on no goddamn private for 50,000. Now that's different.
Ocho Cinco
Hold on. That's six trips with the Richard Mille. That Ferrari is 350. That's 700. That's another six trips and I can get. I can do a round trip with the chrome hearts outfit. So. Yeah, I'm good.
Chad Johnson
You know what? You. You can thank nightcap because Nightcap, you know, they. They.
Ocho Cinco
Everyone's personal life.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, that's old money, man. That's old money.
Ocho Cinco
Zoo. Everyone's personal life is for the Internet. Except. Oo. Lady cheated. We talked about that. Damn. I Don't know who did that. Travis girl went on lbj went lbj Jersey and all. And he talked about that. Now we got F off. Address the elephant in the room. You're trending on Twitter. That ain't got nothing to do with me. Guys, the news of the day. Absolutely it does. What do you want me to say?
Chad Johnson
That ain't got nothing to do with us.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, that ain't got nothing to do with me. So there's nothing to address. Yeah. I don't know why everybody keep. If you notice everybody's posting it. They got me in the 42 pages. It don't mention nothing about Shannon Sharpe did anything. But y'all want to get clicks. So y'all mention me, right?
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Ain't got nothing to do with us.
Ocho Cinco
TS car wise detail service are the lives of the team to beat in the playoffs. And. And you should get a shot a. For an interview this year. I wish we can get shot. I don't remember last time I've seen Shade with an interview. I think the NFC Championship game is going to be between the Lions and the. The Eagles. Ooh.
Chad Johnson
Who you got? Who you got? Who you got? Who you got?
Ocho Cinco
If you made me pick right now, I would take the Eagles. Yeah, I would.
Chad Johnson
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I like it.
Ocho Cinco
I know one thing Fire Marshall Bill said from 0 and 16 to running out of the end zone from bags with our head and calling our coach a clown for biting kneecaps. Y'all ain't making fun of us now. Barb Marshall Bill, you guys got a. The turnaround has been so. Has been nothing. Nothing short of miraculous. You mentioned the 0 and 16. The bag on your head to D. O. I'm sorry you had a very bad moment, but you got. But what they've been able to do to turn around last year went to the NFC Championship game. Seems like they're the team to beat or one of the two teams to beat this year in the nfc. Yeah. Fire Marshall, you guys, y'all. Y'all doing the thing. Y'all doing the thing. And I'm. Like I said, I don't really know anybody for the. The Lions. I don't obviously, you know, you know the players. You. But I don't know any. I don't know. I don't think I've met any of these guys personally. But I'm happy for Barry. I'm happy for Megatron. I'm sure they wish they could have had this kind of talent surrounding them to give them an opportunity to play For a Super Bowl. But hey, it happens when it happens. But congratulations to Detroit Lions, number one seed in the nfc. Dejuan Hines. Congrats to the Lions. But why are their fan base so weird? They act like they've been winning for decades and you can't even compliment or criticize them without them saying you're a hater or a bandwagon fan. That's what happens. I mean, you're right. They haven't won a whole lot.
Chad Johnson
I hate bringing up the past, though. We living in the now, but the Lions are doing right now. It's special. It's special, especially for a coach to be able to come in and turn a franchise around that damn fast. That fast. And then you. We. We ain't talking about just coming in, just winning a few games here. A few games. Yeah, we talk about they damn near running the table. But. But the Lions only lost two games this year, huh?
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
And they only lost two games this year. And then the fashion in which they win, they out there running stuff you run on. On at the Turkey bowl on Thanksgiving with your homeboy, like, that's me, you know?
Ocho Cinco
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
They make the game of football exciting, man. They win a different type of fashion, the entertaining fashion. Then you have a coach who's on the sideline with his nuts in the goddamn wheelbarrow. You know, he like, yeah. 4th and 4th and 20. God damn it. We going for it. Let's go.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. And I think you're right, Ocho. And I think the thing is they can win a multitude of ways. We see them turn the ball over five times.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
Still win a game. We see them getting the shootouts and win a game. They can win the games in a multitude of Wade. They can run it, they can throw it. They can put pressure on you and stifle you defensively. As we see Minnesota, a bare high powered offense. And guess what? They shut them down. They shut them down.
Chad Johnson
Pressure.
Ocho Cinco
So congratulations to the Lions headed to the playoffs for the second consecutive year. Tim Lee Ocho. The reason Unk and others give the Bengals fans such a hard time is because the Bengals players and their fans talk so much. It ain't nothing. It's historically a bad franchise. It is because all you guys, the Bengals we're talking about, the afc runs through us. How.
Chad Johnson
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. The Bengals are out of the playoffs. Why are we still talking about us? We're not in it. But for some reason I named.
Ocho Cinco
Y'all were never in it. I knew you was talking. Y'all Were never in the playoff contentions, y'all. I told you. I said, Ocho, y'all don't control y'all own destiny. Y'all gotta hope. Well, I hope Miami loses. I hope the Broncos loses.
Chad Johnson
Right?
Ocho Cinco
See, the Broncos, they had to do no hoping. Win the game and we in.
Chad Johnson
Well, I told you what happened. I told you what happened. You understand how good and how dangerous you were. Towards the end of the season, the Kansas City Chiefs purposely laid down so there was no opportunity or chance that they would have to face it again.
Ocho Cinco
Because why am I going to run? Why am I going to run? Risk injury to benefit y'all. So I get Patrick Mahomes hurt, then what?
Chad Johnson
I didn't say anything about Patrick Mahomes playing. I said.
Ocho Cinco
You thought. Hold on. You thought. You thought? I told you this. I told you once they beat Pittsburgh, they were resting the final game.
Chad Johnson
Right? No, I'm sorry.
Ocho Cinco
You talking about Carson Wentz? He's been a starter. He'll find a way. He was terrible.
Chad Johnson
I thought he would have found a way, but he didn't.
Ocho Cinco
He did.
Chad Johnson
He didn't. It's all good, though. We'll see you next year. Matter of fact, no.
Ocho Cinco
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Chad Johnson
Hold on. Matter of fact, I ain't going to see you next year. I'm going to see y'all after next week. We go, hey, we gonna meet in Cancun. Matter of fact, I'm gonna book y'all a flight. I'm gonna book y'all a flight from Buffalo straight to Cancun. Oh, y'all want. Y'all want to go Jamaica or the Bahamas? Which one?
Ocho Cinco
Whoa, whoa.
Chad Johnson
I'm just asking you.
Ocho Cinco
Whoa. Why are you like this, Ocho? This is so unnecessary.
Chad Johnson
I'm just asking you which one you want, because I hope you don't think y'all finna go into Buffalo and be Superman.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, you the same guy that said that Kansas City was gonna beat us today, Were you not that guy? Oh, and you see how your offense move when T. Higgins got hurt? Y'all better not let T go. How y'all gonna play? How? Y'all have a 30 million dollar receiver, a $55 million quarterback, and a 40 million dollar receiver. Oh, and Hendrickson led the NFL in sacks again. Ooh, he gonna command a big payday. Are you sure?
Chad Johnson
Why? We talk about the Bengals right now. We not in the playoffs. Let's talk about the Broncos. Y'all won tonight, but y'all will be home next week.
Ocho Cinco
Hey, hey.
Chad Johnson
Dirty the seller, the celebration is gonna.
Ocho Cinco
Be Ocho owe me money. He won't pay. I said hey dirty Ocho pay my money. It's getting ugly. I need that Ocho Hey I've been.
Chad Johnson
Trying to thank you but I've been trying to pay you for the past two hours.
Ocho Cinco
You ain't been trying to pay me. You ain't been trying to pay me hard enough. But ojo if I raise up from here, knock on my money.
Chad Johnson
Anybody in the chat? Anybody in the chat want this 4000 that UNC O man let me know.
Ocho Cinco
What you mean I owe uncle who.
Chad Johnson
Uncle tell me that I owe Unc.
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Chad Johnson
Matter of fact, double or nothing. Bet that. Bet that. 4,000 on you. Bet that 4,000.
Ocho Cinco
Listen, your team was the Bengals. My team is the Broncos. You? I. Whoa.
Chad Johnson
I'm going for the bill. Been at doubling. Nothing. Double. Double or nothing.
Ocho Cinco
No.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Scared Money don't make no money. What you trying to do?
Ocho Cinco
I made money. I got four grand. Now you need to run me that. Ocho. Y'all see this man? Now, he don't even like the Bills. He want to bet on another team to do something that his team couldn't do, which was getting the playoffs, is not a shame.
Chad Johnson
And we beat y'all, though. That's all that matter. We beat y'all?
Ocho Cinco
Yeah. No, no, no. Where did that get you?
Chad Johnson
We beat y'all.
Ocho Cinco
What did that do get you?
Chad Johnson
It don't matter. We beat y'all.
Ocho Cinco
We got more. We got more wins than y'all. We in the playoffs.
Chad Johnson
We'll see next year.
Ocho Cinco
Whoa. Why we gotta wait that long?
Chad Johnson
Matter? Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. We'll talk about this in Cabo next week. We talk about this in Cabo.
Ocho Cinco
I gotta wait that long. I gotta wait next year for the Bengals to get to the playoffs.
Chad Johnson
Come again?
Ocho Cinco
I gotta wait till next year for the Bengals to make the playoffs.
Chad Johnson
Unless you play Madden. Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
Did y'all make the playoffs last year? Damn.
Chad Johnson
Did y'all make the playoffs last year?
Ocho Cinco
Who talking about last year? You see what you just did? You could be on here. You just asked.
Chad Johnson
You just asked. You just asked me a question. Did y'all make.
Ocho Cinco
You said you didn't want to talk about that. I don't like talking about old stuff. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy. Doc. Happy New Year, Doc. It is so good to see a chat from you. And hey, fam, what's good? As a Cowboy fan, I like to officially apologize for whatever that was on the field today. Y'all been what the elephant left on the Showground all year. Y'all know what the elephant left on the Showground. Doc, I like you, but I'm not disappointed by this result. I don't think anybody is. Tyron said, what's up, Uncanocho? Houston Texas fans here. Do y'all think Tyreek would be a good Tyreek? Listen, everybody gonna ask this Tyreek. Tyreek is a good fit anywhere, any day. The question is, what is the compensation? If the Dolphins aren't ways. What is the compensation that they're looking to get now? They're going to look to get the compensation that they gave up to get it now. 30 million. I think he's making 30 million. He's probably got, what, four years left on that deal. 30 million here, probably $120 million. That's not a lot of money for a guy like Tyreek.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Yeah. I hope things work out and you stay. You know, cooler heads. Cooler heads will prevail upstate.
Ocho Cinco
He doesn't want to stay because he knows his quarterback is injury prone and his future is tied to the quarterback because. And I told you Huntley is no Ocho.
Chad Johnson
I don't like. I don't like you talking about my team because I don't see. I don't see him talk about Bo Nix. When I talk about Bo Nix, they.
Ocho Cinco
Don'T talk about we. The playoffs. Why you talking about Bo?
Chad Johnson
No, when I talk. When I do talk about Bo Nix, I praise him. I talk about how good he is, how. How stellar his play has been off.
Ocho Cinco
That man was 26 to 29 for 321 and three tubs. How could you not praise him?
Chad Johnson
I'm. I would praise him all season long. He didn't hit me.
Ocho Cinco
You should, rookie.
Chad Johnson
I'm not talking about this game.
Ocho Cinco
10 wins. This many. Hold on. I know y'all ain't got no rookie quarterback. Who? The quarterback in Cincinnati, Joe Burrow. And y'all didn't get 10 wins. If we got 10 wins with a rookie, imagine if Bo had Jamar Chase. Jamar Chase would be in the playoffs, man.
Chad Johnson
Hey, stop. Stop playing my team, man.
Ocho Cinco
Man, both of your team missed the playoffs.
Chad Johnson
That's fine.
Ocho Cinco
Both of my teams in the playoffs. Oh, so you notice that both of your teams missed the playoffs. Both of my teams in the playoffs.
Chad Johnson
That's fine. You know what? It's one of those years. And it's like life. Life has obstacles and it has hurdles, and this is one of the hurdles that we happen to stumble over this year.
Ocho Cinco
And if you notice, the Ravens win the Super bowl in 12 year increments. 2000, 2012, 2024.
Chad Johnson
I like that. I like who did that. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Ocho Cinco
We don't need you to like anything. You're Bengals. Bengals and Ravens don't get along. Birds do not. Birds do not like cats.
Chad Johnson
I like Lamar Jackson.
Ocho Cinco
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Stop this.
Chad Johnson
Lamar, he from me, from Florida. That's all. Zay Flowers.
Ocho Cinco
He plays for Ravens.
Chad Johnson
They flowers. He from Florida. They from home.
Ocho Cinco
We put all that. We put that to the side. We are Ravens. Play like a Raven.
Chad Johnson
I'm able to separate the two. I'm able to separate the two.
Ocho Cinco
You ain't got no choice. AJ Zamora. Who they? Huh?
Chad Johnson
Who they.
Ocho Cinco
When they. Wendy, when they gonna make the playoffs again? When they. When they. When they gonna make the playoffs again? Never next year. And y'all stole the chat. Y'all stole the strange chat. Cause they the who that. Y'all talk about who they.
Chad Johnson
We had our chant way before them that. Now, I. I would give you a history lesson, but I'm not gonna go there right now.
Ocho Cinco
Y'all ain't gonna know nothing. Y'all been bad. The bingo's been ocho. Y'all been bad for a long, long time. Y'all need to stop this notion that y'all been good. You haven't.
Chad Johnson
We've had seasons.
Ocho Cinco
You haven't.
Chad Johnson
We've had.
Ocho Cinco
Now you got the potential to do something. Potential means you ain't done ish yet. That's what potential means. You haven't done ish.
Chad Johnson
We'll be there. Don't worry about it.
Ocho Cinco
Beware.
Chad Johnson
Keep on laughing.
Ocho Cinco
Y'all hold on. Y'all do know in order to get there. Lamar Jackson owned the Bengals.
Chad Johnson
Listen. I don't want to listen. We'll see. I'm gonna let y'all finish the season out. I'm gonna let y'all finish the season.
Ocho Cinco
Now, Ojo, y'all got practice. Y'all got practice on Monday, Tuesday, this week.
Chad Johnson
Who? I don't play no more. I'm retired.
Ocho Cinco
The Bengals, y'all got. They got pride. What time, practice?
Chad Johnson
What they practicing for?
Ocho Cinco
I mean, looking at. Y'all look like y'all didn't practice none this year. I was asking that. What y'all practicing for? Ugadocho used to say the word. Used to say he would tell Chris McAllister his routes because he knew he couldn't stop him with their play. On defense, you used to bully. Cause you knew they couldn't stop you. All of them.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I used to I used to bully Ray.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, Lord have mercy. You ain't bullying nothing.
Chad Johnson
I used to bully Ed Reid. I used to bully Suggs. You know, be in their head, talking the whole game. Y'all ain't gonna do nothing with me.
Ocho Cinco
Did y'all ever beat the Ravens?
Chad Johnson
Yeah, all the time. Look at my numbers.
Ocho Cinco
Y'all ain't beat the Ravens.
Chad Johnson
Listen, I can't. I can't control the team's outcome. I can control my individual performance against said team. Now, that I can do.
Ocho Cinco
I know I lost one game against the Bengals.
Chad Johnson
One I wasn't there.
Ocho Cinco
One.
Chad Johnson
I wasn't there. One game I wasn't there.
Ocho Cinco
We played them. Let's see, we played them in 91, and we played them in. Oh, we played. Oh, we played them when you was there. You was there in 02, and we beat y'all.
Chad Johnson
That's when prime was there, right?
Ocho Cinco
We beat y'all in 02.
Chad Johnson
Prime was there.
Ocho Cinco
I was with the Broncos.
Chad Johnson
Broncos. I don't remember that game. Huh?
Ocho Cinco
Don't worry about it. You didn't do nothing. I wouldn't blame you. I think you had one catch. I wouldn't remember it either, but you caught that. L. Go look it up.
Chad Johnson
I probably. I probably wasn't playing yet.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, you were playing. Were you on the team?
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I was on the team, but I probably wasn't playing it. That was my rookie year.
Ocho Cinco
Sheldon Pope said, ug, what are your thoughts on Bull's retiring D. Rose number?
Chad Johnson
That's lying.
Ocho Cinco
Youngest MVP ever. You just always think what could have been had the injuries not happened, what could have been. I think it's a great thing. I don't think they got a whole lot of players, numbers retired. I think Bob Love. I think Jerry Sloan, obviously. Mike Scotty. I'm not. I'm not. Other than that, I really don't know a whole lot of Bulls players other than, you know, Love and Jerry Sloan and MJ Scotty. But D. Rose going up there. He's a Chicago kid, went to Simeon High School, so congrats, D. Rose. Brandon. Hey, guys, want to clarify what I was saying yesterday at my job, we were doing Secret Santa and my crush Secret Santa, and I was my crush Secret Santa. I bought her a $17 necklace from Amazon with her name on it. I was thinking outside of the box. That younger co worker, he thinking about that box? Yeah, he thinking inside the box.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Yeah, you thinking outside the box, thinking about the box. Man, if you don't go snatch that chain. I told you what to do. Now I told you what to do. Don't do that. Don't leave with no money. Don't leave with no gifts. No. You have to have a. Have a great understanding. If it's not being reciprocated, don't start that gift buying shit. Don't. Don't do that. Don't do that. Because you're going to be with you all for all the wrong reasons. Even if it is only a 17 necklace.
Ocho Cinco
Come here. Hey, Katie, come. You okay?
Chad Johnson
You think? Teddy a Broncos fan?
Ocho Cinco
Yep. As a matter of fact, he gonna have on his Bronco Shark jersey. He got custom sharp jersey. He'll have it on. Look at Teddy. PJs how you lay. Come out these PJs, buddy.
Chad Johnson
He don't talk.
Ocho Cinco
Yeah, he said Broncos won. Bengals didn't. Buddy, you just snoring in the mic. He's snoring in the mic. Hold on. We so glad you're a good little boy. Oh, you know what that is? You know what that means, right? Oo.
Chad Johnson
What?
Ocho Cinco
Show's over. Who they? We got what they. Hold up, hold up, hold up. I mean, the show's about to be over, y'all. Season is over. The time has come.
Chad Johnson
The end is near.
Ocho Cinco
Baby. Pluto, underscore hand. I know karma can be a B, but until they take that victory lap, you deserve this moment. Ocho, run off that 4k. So the striped kitty cat going to next season with some good luck. Nah, they not.
Chad Johnson
You don't need good luck. We'll see y'all next year. We gonna let Unk have his. Have your little moment. Enjoy your little laportier, you know? Cause next week, when we on the show. Next week. Oh, boy, you better be ready, boy, you better be ready.
Ocho Cinco
You better be.
Chad Johnson
Josh Allen jersey and all.
Ocho Cinco
Whoa, whoa. Why you wearing somebody else? I don't do that. Now, you know I got the Ravens helmets back there, right?
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Ocho Cinco
Okay. I got two teams in the playoffs, right?
Chad Johnson
Okay.
Ocho Cinco
Okay.
Chad Johnson
Oh, so you gonna jump off one?
Ocho Cinco
What you mean jump off? What you mean, jump off? If you go back and look at The Ravens in 2000, I was on the team that originally won the Super Bowl. Don't do that, Ocho.
Chad Johnson
All right. Okay.
Ocho Cinco
Cal Simpson said Uncle Nocho, a longtime fan since before lobster and condoms. If Campbell wins Detroit, Super. Wins Detroit and Super bowl, do y'all think he will leave his house door wide open and not get robbed? How far would they go to honor him? Well, if he wins a Super bowl in Detroit, they better build a statue with all the long suffering that Detroit has had and to win a Super Bowl. After all what that city has gone through, he ain't gotta pay for that. Nothing. You know what, Ocho?
Chad Johnson
Rightfully so.
Ocho Cinco
What currency is the yen or the quan or the ruble?
Chad Johnson
The who?
Ocho Cinco
The ruble.
Chad Johnson
I live in the States. I don't know.
Ocho Cinco
I want you to give me some. I want foreign money now.
Chad Johnson
What you need foreign money for? We not in the foreign country.
Ocho Cinco
Let's man try to tell me what I need this for when I might want to buy. I think I get. Hey, look at the price of a miniature town. A miniature goat or a miniature horse. I'm gonna give me. I'm gonna give me a. I'm gonna get me a. What's it called? I'm gonna get me a miniature cow and name him dumpling.
Chad Johnson
You know, I want to see how much it costs too.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, mini cow cost between five and seven. I think I can spring for another. Another foul and get me dumpling. What about a mini goat?
Chad Johnson
Oh, they ain't that much. They buy. You get some between 1500 and 6500, depending on the size.
Ocho Cinco
Oh, yeah, I get mini goat. I give me a bunch of mini goats for 4,000. They between 40 and 400. I get me 10. I give me a little hurt. Give me a couple of burned out cars. Cause they like to stand on abandoned cars and stuff. Oh, yeah, you wanted me to go.
Chad Johnson
I like it.
Ocho Cinco
That concludes it. Guys. We want to thank Ocho. And I want to really thank you guys for tuning in with us. We had some fun tonight. I love you too, buddy. Please make sure y'all hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button and go subscribe to the nightcap podcast feed. I am your favorite uncle Shannon Sharp. That guy. Liberty City's own bingo's ring of fame artery. No Pro bowl, no playoff Self all pro bingo. Legendary Chad Ocho Cinco Cancun Johnson. Check out J by lafortier. Celebrate playoff teams. I know you want to celebrate. What better way to celebrate going to the playoffs than with a bottle of shea by La Portier? If you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it and we'll ship it directly to you. We want to make sure you celebrate accordingly. Please drink responsibly. Now go check out my media company page on all of its platforms. That's Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out. We got T shirts, sweats, beanies, koozies and mugs from our Latest release quantities are limited, so please grab yours while supplies last. And tickets for our super bowl show in New Orleans. It's our first tour spring stop. It's on sale now. The link is pinned at the top of the chat. February 6th in New Orleans. Be there. We got great guests lined up for you. Thank you for your support. The Lions dominate the the Vike win the number one seed with a 15 and two record overall. They get the first round by the Vikings go on the road to take on the number four seed Los Angeles Rams. The Broncos defeat the Chiefs 38 to nothing. Earn the number seven seed and they will play the number two seed which are the Buffalo Bills.
Chad Johnson
You know what that means. Okay, somebody going.
Ocho Cinco
Let'S see Ojo the Jets take down the dolphins 32 to 20. What could have been, what could be possibly Aaron Rodgers last game Tyreek Hill talked about the game, talking about he's tired of losing franchise players being injured. He talked about Tua. So he spoke as if he might need he might want a change of scenery. The Patriots defeated the bills 23 16. Gerard Mayo was informed after the game he will not be coming back as the head coach next season. One and done. The Cowboys lose to the Commanders 23 to 19. Mike Evans in a victory one over the New Orleans Saints extended his streak of consecutive thousand yard seasons. He has 11. The record is 14 held by Jerry Rice and in the process of going over 1,000 yards, he hit a bonus that earned him an additional $3 million. The Eagles, minus a lot of their starters, Defeated the Giants 2013. The Bears won for the first time against the packers since 2018. 2422 the Panthers defeated the Falcons in overtime. They walk it off 44:38. Bryce Young 5 touchdowns, 3 passes to rushing Carolina. The Cardinals defeated the 49ers 47:24. Chargers defeated the Raiders 34 to 20. The Colts defeated the Jags 23:26 in overtime and that completes nightcap. Guys, we're off tomorrow but we do have a show on Wednesday. So no show tomorrow. We'll see you Wednesday. Thank you for joining us. So we go Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Damn. So we got a little break o show. We got Monday and Tuesday off and then we line up for six straight days because the college football playoffs, NFL playoffs and because the NFL game there's a Monday night game for the playoffs for the first time. So thank you guys, I appreciate your guys support and we'll see you on Wednesday. The Volume.
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Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Episode Summary Release Date: January 6, 2025
In this episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe hosts a dynamic and engaging conversation with Chad Johnson and Ocho Cinco. The discussion delves into significant NFL developments, including Tyreek Hill's frustrations with the Miami Dolphins, the firing of Jerod Mayo from the New England Patriots, and insights into Jerry Jones' management of the Dallas Cowboys. The hosts provide in-depth analysis, passionate debates, and noteworthy perspectives on these topics.
Timestamp: [04:09] - [22:38]
The episode kicks off with a heated discussion about Tyreek Hill's recent comments expressing his desire to leave the Miami Dolphins. Hill's dissatisfaction stems from ongoing injuries and concerns about the future stability of the team's quarterback position.
Chad Johnson emphasizes Hill's competitiveness and necessity for a stable environment:
"[04:59] Chad Johnson: ...I just gotta do what's best for me and my family, dog. If that's here, that's where, wherever the case may be, I'm finna open that door for myself."
Ocho Cinco counters by questioning the Dolphins' quarterback decisions and Hill's dependence on an injury-prone QB:
"[05:29] Ocho Cinco: ...you see 30 million can't buy your happiness when you're getting your eyes beat in. You play with a quarterback that's injury-prone."
The debate intensifies as they discuss whether Tyreek Hill's performance metrics justify his standing as a top-tier wide receiver. Ocho Cinco argues that Hill's performance is intrinsically linked to the team's quarterback situation, while Chad Johnson defends Hill's consistent excellence despite challenges.
"[06:36] Ocho Cinco: Tyreek Hill has never not been to the Pro Bowl. Now when they talk about Ocho, last year the players voted him the number one player."
Timestamp: [15:37] - [22:38]
The conversation shifts to the New England Patriots, where Jerod Mayo has been informed that he will not return as head coach. This decision sparks a debate about the Patriots' coaching strategies and Jerry Jones' influence over team management.
Chad Johnson criticizes the short tenure given to Mayo:
"[16:09] Chad Johnson: ...they gave Gerard Mayo one year. One year is not enough time to do anything in the NFL. Nothing at all."
Ocho Cinco discusses the implications of Mayo's departure and the potential hiring of Mike Vrabel:
"[16:34] Chad Johnson: ...they were trying to low ball Ocho."
The hosts explore the broader implications of such swift coaching changes and what it means for the Patriots' future stability.
"[17:46] Ocho Cinco: ...you make mistakes you don't have to take no accountability for."
Timestamp: [22:38] - [41:50]
A significant portion of the episode focuses on Jerry Jones' management style with the Dallas Cowboys, particularly his decision-making regarding coaching staff and player incentives.
Chad Johnson expresses skepticism about Jones' understanding of the game:
"[26:27] Chad Johnson: ...they put in there because people representing it, and there should be."
Ocho Cinco criticizes Jones for not committing to the team's future:
"[31:37] Ocho Cinco: Jerry Jones also praised McCarthy but wouldn't commit to the future."
The hosts debate the effectiveness of incentive-based contracts and how Jones' decisions impact team morale and performance.
"[34:00] Chad Johnson: He's unserious. He's unserious. He's unserious. This is why things are going the way they're going."
Timestamp: [35:07] - [37:40]
Amidst the debates, the episode highlights Mike Evans' remarkable achievement of his 11th consecutive 1,000-yard receiving season, tying Jerry Rice's record.
Chad Johnson celebrates Evans' consistency and dedication:
"[36:04] Ocho Cinco: ...Mike Evans has been nothing but a model citizen for Tampa. ...He's been great in the community and he's like, you know what? I want to be a one helmet guy."
Ocho Cinco emphasizes the importance of team loyalty and rewarding players accordingly:
"[36:03] Chad Johnson: ...difference how you put the bait out there, though."
Their discussion underscores the significance of player performance and loyalty in achieving long-term success within the NFL.
"[37:13] Ocho Cinco: Mike Evans, congratulations. One of the great receivers in NFL history. 11 straight seasons of 1,000 yards. Only Jerry Rice has more."
Timestamp: [38:08] - [84:35]
The hosts provide brief summaries and analyses of various NFL games, including performances by the Carolina Panthers, Arizona Cardinals, Los Angeles Chargers, Indianapolis Colts, and more. They discuss player performances, team strategies, and future playoff implications.
Chad Johnson praises coaching decisions and player performances:
"[45:14] Chad Johnson: ...let him get the right coach now and watch what happens."
Ocho Cinco critiques team management and player accountability:
"[60:33] Ocho Cinco: ...the Packers. That's all I'm saying. Look, that's all I'm saying."
These segments offer listeners a comprehensive overview of the current NFL season's highlights and controversies.
Throughout the episode, Chad Johnson and Ocho Cinco engage in a spirited dialogue, offering diverse perspectives on NFL matters. Their passionate discussions provide listeners with a deep dive into the intricacies of team management, player performance, and the ever-evolving dynamics of professional football. Notable quotes and timestamped insights ensure that even those who haven't listened to the episode can grasp the key points and debates presented.
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