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Learn more@viz.com Ready the South Carolina Lady Gamecocks beat the Yukon Huskies 62 to 48 in the final seconds. You Gino Oriemma approached Don Staley for a post game handshake and then angrily got in her face before Don started firing back. The two were separated, but Don kept shouting towards the bench before walking away. Geno walked off to the tunnel alone. In his postgame news conference, Gino said he was frustrated because he waited three minutes for a pregame handshake with Don. He also said he did not regret the comments he made to Holly Row during the broadcast about the lack of files against South Carolina. Said Don Ransom raves at the officials and call referees some names you don't want to hear. Clearly someone got through the Gino because this morning he issued a statement saying there are no excuses for how handled the end of the game versus South Carolina. It's unlike what I do and what our standard is here at Connecticut. I want to apologize to the staff and the team at South Carolina. It was uncalled for, how I reacted. The story should have been how well South Carolina played, and I don't want my actions to distract from that. I have a great relationship with their staff and I sincerely want to apologize to them. Geno Oreyama. Well, I'm glad you apologized because we about to tear your ass up, Gino. But anyway, Ocho Joe, we still gonna
Ocho
tear his ass up?
Uncle Joe
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Ocho
He was dead wrong.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Hey.
Uncle Joe
Dead wrong. Hey, Uncle Joe, listen, as a coach, especially a winning coach like Gino, you have to be able. You should understand and you know how to learn how to win with grace and lose the grace. When you beat Ms. Staley last time, you was all smiles, happy hugs, ready to, you know, whatever it may be. And the fact that you say some things to Holly Row and saying that in the game that Don Staley probably influenced the rest because you. Y' all guys didn't get the calls necessary. Listen, South Carolina, they didn't just beat y'.
Joe
All.
Uncle Joe
They dominated in every aspect of the game.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
They played great defense.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
It just did. That wasn't a. That wasn't getting beat. That was getting your ass whipped.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
That's all it was. I mean, listen, your team got embarrassed. You got to be able to lose with grace as well.
Joe
Okay.
Uncle Joe
You didn't get the three minute handshake or you waited three minutes before, you know, pregame, and you didn't. What is that?
Joe
That had. So you still. She. She did take the whole joke. Yeah, she shook his hand in.
Uncle Joe
In pregame.
Joe
Well, why do you Say yes before the game.
Ocho
She shook his hand, man.
Uncle Joe
Oh, so he's upset he had to wait three minutes. Is that. Why bring that up?
Joe
He's upset. He was the favorite. They blew South Carolina out last year. They were favored. They got two all American. First team All American.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
They might have the player of the year in Sarah Strong.
Uncle Joe
Sarah a. She. Nice.
Joe
But. But South Carolina beat him.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
And so this is. I'm. I was. I thought I was gonna win. I was supposed to win, and I got beat. Yeah. That's what this was about. This was a sore loser.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Yeah. Damn. Handshake.
Ocho
Yeah. Undefeated season, you know, he was something, bro. He was something. And how about not just apologizing to the coaching staff, you know, Give a personal apology to Don Staley. You know what I mean? Like, bro, for you to get in her face like that and talk stuff to her after the game, man, just congratulate and move on. I understand. You know, in the heat of the battle, you know, we.
Joe
We.
Ocho
We get a little pissed off. You know, like I said, he was on the brink to having an undefeated season. Unc and Ocho.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
And like. Like, Unc said he was a heavy favorite, but, man, them girls from South Carolina, they just outplayed them.
Joe
They rolled ca.
Ocho
They outplayed. They dogged him. They dogged him, and he couldn't take it. He couldn't take it.
Joe
No, no, don't say South Carolina. You didn't do that to South Carolina. You was in Don Staley's place. Apologize. Say, you know what? I want to apologize to the staff. And. And I want to personally apologize to Don St. Hello? Now, you told a lie because you said you had a great relationship with the staff. You don't. You said before they asked you after the game, do you have a relationship? You said, no.
Ocho
Right.
Joe
So were you lying then or you lying now?
Ocho
Right, right.
Joe
Hey, you know what? Whoever.
Uncle Joe
Whoever wrote that apology to Uncle Joe Fat GPT.
Joe
Allegedly.
Zach
That.
Uncle Joe
That, too. And he know if you're gonna apologize to something.
Joe
Allegedly.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. If you're gonna apologize to someone, you apologize to the person you had the altercation with.
Joe
That's what I have.
Uncle Joe
An altercation with the staff.
Ocho
That's what I'm saying.
Uncle Joe
You didn't have an altercation with the entire entity of South Carolina.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
That apology been directed straight to Don Staley and nobody else.
Ocho
Yeah. And. And. And the fact that he was dead wrong. Talking about, oh, my player got a ripped jersey. Hell, she ripped her own Damn jersey. Yeah. 40 years.
Joe
And I've never had a player ripped jersey. Well, I guess you never had a player get that upset then. Cause she ripped that on her own damn jersey.
Ocho
Like, just damn wrong. Just, you know, you dead wrong like that, bro. Just apologize. Make a personal apology to done. That's what I felt like it should have been, but I just felt like he was. He was dead wrong, bro. Dead wrong.
Joe
Don say, I'm a beat. I beat Gino ass. I would beat Gino ass. Oh, you ready, lips? You ready to argue?
Ocho
Okay, okay, okay. Hey, Don from Philly. Uncle Ocho, she ain't playing. Yeah. She about to get to it.
Joe
Yeah. And that's anytime you have to. It has to have. It has to be personal.
Uncle Joe
Yes.
Joe
Because what you did was personal.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Okay. You want to apologize to your institution because the way you behaved and put them in a negative light. You can say that. I want to apologize to my university also. But you did this to Don. You didn't do this to the entire staff. You did this to one individual. Now, whatever the case may be, I don't know where it goes back from, but he had a very contentious, contentious relationship with Pat Summit, the University of Tennessee. Yeah, it was very contentious. I know had had the lovely opportunity of meeting Pat in New York at the. At the sky club in. At LaGuardia. Had a great time. I said, Ms. Summit, how you. He said, call me Pat. You know, so forth and so on. But, Gino, you was wrong.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
And your apology, I appreciate it, but it needs to have a personal touch to it. It needs to say, I apologize to the person that I spoke out of turn to. That I approached that I. That I. I probably said something that I should have said. I don't know what he said. Right. The way you behave is that you took a lot of the. A lot of the. The. The. The. The steam out of the sale of South Carolina, because what we should be talking about, that South Carolina did what many didn't think they could do.
Ocho
Right.
Uncle Joe
Right.
Joe
Beat an undefeated team, a reigning champion with two All Americans, and they did it on the defensive end.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Yeah. There had some ladies that rose to the occasion offensively, but this was a defense. You look at what Sarah strong shot. You look at what Az. Fudge shot, and that'll tell you everything that you need to know for you to not have a personal touch and say, I like to apologize first and foremost to Don Staley.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
She's a hell of a coach. She's rebound. Hey, look here. The Gamecocks, when you think about the Gamecocks you think about the women's basketball team. You don't think about a football team. And they've had a baseball team, had good baseball team, good track program with Sarge Frye. But when you think of South Carolina Gamecocks, you think of Don Staley and the Lady Gamecocks.
Ocho
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Joe
And so for you not to talk about the staff, you said you do not have a personal relationship with Don Staley. And. And I'm not saying that you have to.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
Joe
But your behavior would suggest that you need to have personally apologized to her. I appreciate you apologizing to the University of South Carolina and their staff, but they got to be. Have a little more personal touch to it. That's what. Apology. Apology. In order for you to. For you, an individual, because what you did was to an individual, you need to personally apologize to said individual.
Ocho
Absolutely.
Uncle Joe
Hey, go ahead.
Joe
What you want to say?
Uncle Joe
Honestly, and, you know, excuse my language, man, that apology, most of the time, it takes for somebody to get angry, for them to show their true colors and how they really feel.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uncle Joe
I mean, that's all it is.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
And then on top of that, the fact that he didn't apologize directly to her, it lets you know how you really feel.
Ocho
Right. Right.
Uncle Joe
When you win it, when you're winning all that.
Joe
Good. Last year, when he's on the sideline, the clock's running down. He got his hands all up there.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
He's smiling.
Joe
Yeah, yeah. Back where we supposed to be.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah.
Joe
Hey, that.
Uncle Joe
Man, that fake ass apology, man, ain't never apology, man.
Ocho
He didn't.
Zach
He didn't.
Ocho
He didn't even write it.
Joe
But.
Ocho
But check this out. Can y' all imagine what Don Staley was like in the locker room after the game? Like, way to kick that. You know, she was going off like that.
Joe
Oh, yeah.
Uncle Joe
Wait a minute.
Ocho
Hey, that's what I would have been like. I'm like, man, wait, wait.
Uncle Joe
Wait a minute, Joe. And hold on. You want to.
Ocho
You.
Uncle Joe
You. You think it's bad because Gino did this? Imagine if the roles was flipped.
Joe
Boy.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, man, it would have been World War iii.
Ocho
Yeah. They'd have been talking big stuff about Don.
Joe
Man, listen, you gotta be just as gracious in victory as you are in defeat. Defeat. Now, think about it. Think about Geno. Gino's been coaching 20, 40 years. He's been the 25 Final Fours. He's won 12 championships. So somebody has been on the losing end 12 times. Gino is 12 and one in final. In national championship games.
Ocho
Damn.
Joe
South Carolina beat him a couple of years ago. He's 12 and one. So 12 times somebody had to walk across the floor across the court aisle and. And shake his hand after getting their ass tore up.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
You look at the women that he's coached from Tarasi and. And Lobo and Maya Moore and Charles and. And Brianna Stewart, and the list goes on and on. He's winning three out of four. Brianna Stewart didn't lose a national championship game. So for four straight years, this man, he up there cheats Kiki and in people's face.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Now, the one time you're supposed to win and you didn't, you behave like this. Remember, you're as gracious in victory as you are in defeat. Nobody likes to lose. Everybody talking about, man, I'm a sword. I hate when people say, well, I hate to lose.
Ocho
If.
Joe
If you had that. Once you get to a certain level, everybody hates to lose.
Ocho
Yes, sir.
Joe
You put all that damn time in all these girls and put all this time in and.
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Joe
And. And been away from their families and doing all this stuff. Nobody wants to lose. No, but it's a part of it. Yeah, but when they lose, they don't act like a jackass, man. That. That. That kills me. I hate what guy? Oh, I'm a. So, yeah, it bothers me. Anybody. Because I know there. There are some guys that. Hey, when they. When they winning, they running around and act like they're on the damn hoverboard.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
But when they lose, Ocho, they can't be found. Well, you know, I. I didn't want. No, no, no, no. But they couldn't get you to shut up.
Ocho
Yeah. Yeah.
Joe
Nah, don't. Don't do that.
Ocho
Yeah, don't do that. Yeah. I just didn't. I just didn't expect that from Gino, bro. I. I just felt like he was a classy individual, and I thought that, you know, he. He would. He would be much better than that. Like blaming Don on how she talked to the rep. Man, come on, man.
Joe
We in between. He ain't never said something out of. Out of line to the ref.
Ocho
Come on, man.
Joe
But that ain't your job. That's the ref. You ain't no ref. You a Coke and stop dry snitching. Yeah, and.
Uncle Joe
And the way. The way he said it, the way he explained it, is as if Don screaming or saying whatever she's saying to the referees is influencing the ref's call in the game.
Ocho
Right.
Uncle Joe
Then he follows it up with the fouls.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Are we talking. What are we. Gina. What are we talking about? Baby, you got whooped. You lost.
Joe
Yes.
Uncle Joe
You don't lose often, but tonight you lost.
Joe
Yeah, what about. What about that? Ocho, the man that won, he won like 112 something games. He won like, he went like three straight years and never lost a game,
Uncle Joe
man.
Joe
Hey, no, ain't nobody. Ain't nobody did. Did what he did to him. What, Don Staley? Yeah, what he did to Don. They didn't do that to him. No, Don took that ass whipping. I think they beat the Carolina last year. They beat him. I think they beat him in South Carolina. Beat him by about 30 or 40, and they beat him by another 20, 30 last year in the championship game.
Ocho
Yeah, dawn got some dogs over there, Uncle Ocho.
Joe
Oh, yeah. One of the best rebounding girls. She hurt.
Ocho
Yeah. Yeah.
Joe
She got McCair and Lassen, those. And Raven Johnson, all those. Hey, them girls came to play. Yeah, they came to play. They knew what was going to play last night, and I just hope they could. I hope they can finish it off. Yeah, it's gonna be anticlimactic if they take down Goliath and they. They don't take care of ucla, because ucla, they.
Ocho
Hey, they got. They got. They got a big girl down there who ain't playing.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, she nice.
Joe
Hey, but Carolina gonna play some defense now. They don't do nothing else. They're gonna play deep. They're gonna hang their hats on defense because that's what Don was. Don was a D. Hey. Yeah, she was. Hey, she could. Hey, she could put the ball in the basket. But Don was a hound.
Ocho
Yeah, and she got some girls who can go off the bounce, though. Who I'm talking about.
Joe
Yep.
Ocho
Get to that chicken, Uncle Ocho. Yeah, like, you know, you.
Joe
You.
Ocho
It's. It's different when you got girls who out there moving like dudes. You see what I'm saying? Who handling that rock like a dude. Like. Yeah, that's when you, like, hold on, bro. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Joe
For real.
Ocho
That's why I be looking. I'm like, hold on. That girl got that thing on the string, don't she?
Joe
So. But Carolina did it. Game. The Lady Gamecocks has an opportunity to win their third national championship in four years. What? For what she's done to that program. Wow, man. Basically, that's what you got. That's what you got to do. Because for the most part, these. When you get a program, you build it up. Look at Gino Gino was there for 40 plus. It's been a UConn for 40 years. Pat was there for 35. 40 years. Tar Vanderbilt, Stanford. 35, 40 years. You look at these ladies and Kim Mulkey, when she was at Baylor, she built that program up.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
So basically, you gotta build a program. You just got. You just gotta build it.
Ocho
You gotta be a great players coach to where these kids that's coming to your school, they gotta really truly believe that you got they back. And I feel like with Don, you know, she in TikTok, she in Instagram reels, you know what I mean? That's relatable to these kids because that's all they want to do. You know what I mean? They want to have fun, do stuff like that. At the same time, if you giving me everything that I'm asking for on the court, 100% on offense and defense, man, I do all the tik toks y' all want to do.
Joe
Didn't she. What did she do? She let her team pick out a bag, a Louis Vuitton bag. I think she let Jackson State them get sneakers. Yeah, I think she. I mean, she. She's just all like, I've never met Don, but she just strikes me as an allaround good player, a good person. Yeah, she wants to. Hey, look, she a hard worker. You can tell. She a hard worker.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe
But. And she. And she demands. She. She can't. The way she. She has a certain level of respect.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah. And. And.
Joe
And. And the women. And the women gravitate towards that. They know a. Once the. Once a coach established what he expects or she expects, and they don't waver.
Ocho
There you go. Yeah. She shout out to Don, man. She came and hollered at us when I was playing in the big three. This one, I was playing with the triplets, and Lisa Leslie was.
Joe
Okay.
Ocho
Lisa Leslie played together. Usa.
Joe
You know, they.
Ocho
They dog.
Joe
Yeah.
Ocho
Not. I mean, so she came in there and talked to us, bro. Like, you know, just gave us a little pep talk before the game and I thought that was cool. So I got much love and respect for. I like how she handled herself, you know, after that game the other day. Because I'm gonna tell you, I would have been the same way. Hell, I wouldn't have been surprised. She jumped on Gino ass. I was like, well, look, I can't whip him.
Joe
Hey, I. I can't whip it in front of all these folks. But hold on. Wasn't Don under Geno at the US team? Yeah, they coached in the Olympics in 20.
Ocho
I think she played for him, too. She played for him and coached with him.
Joe
He was a coach. Because. I know. I think Pat coached for a number of years, But if I'm. She might be. She. She. Is she still the. The usa basketball? Us women's basketball coach. Head coach in 21. Damien. I mean, our women had lost the gold medal since I think, what, 92, 96, 2004, 8, 12, 16, 21, 24. So we don't want seven straight time.
Ocho
They don't even have no competition, though. No, no, they too good.
Joe
Cause we go. I mean, we bring.
Ocho
We bring.
Joe
I mean, we got Stu. Our bigs is stewing and. And Asia. And then we got guards out the yin yang.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
We got Caitlin Clark. We got Inescu. We got Chelsea. We got Jackie Young.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Okay.
Joe
They came up with us too many. We got Fee.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
They can't. They can't fool with us.
Ocho
Them girls can go boy.
Joe
Okay. Okay. Cheryl Reeves. Okay, so who's the coach? Who's gonna be the coach in 28?
Ocho
Reeves again. Okay.
Joe
But you know, you bet you better than that, Gino. All the. I mean, it's.
Ocho
Huh.
Joe
Carol Lawson. Okay. Duke. Okay.
Ocho
Oh, yeah.
Joe
Tennessee on the pad.
Ocho
She coaching the USA thing.
Joe
She gonna be the coaching 28.
Ocho
I like Carol Lawson.
Joe
She good. I like Carol, too. But you notice it's always. It's. It's mainly the coaches that win a lot, and then when they lose, show date. Cause you know who else was like that? You know, you played for a mocho. Who? Bill Belichick.
Uncle Joe
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe
Want to run off the field. And don't.
Uncle Joe
Don't shake hands.
Joe
Be getting short with the answers. It's always the people that win. You, bro, you don't win. And coaches have to answer the question and talk about how great that play call was and how you went forward and all of this and that they got to just laud you with a praise and adulation.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Now you lose a game, it give you one announcement. Oh, yeah.
Uncle Joe
Big time.
Joe
Gotta play better, coach better.
Uncle Joe
That's it.
Joe
Belichick said.
Ocho
Damn all that.
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Joe
basically, that's exactly what he said. UCLA beat Texas 51 44. Four UCLA starters scored in double figures, led by scenic senior Lauren Betts with 16 points, 11 rebounds, three blocks, but a crucial, a crucial one late in the ball game. Kiki Rice. We've had Kiki on 11 points, including four key free throws in the final minute to see the win. And fell guard Gabrielle Haz, whose brother Jamie plays at the Miami Miami Heat, and Gianna Nick N pick each had 10. I thought Texas cause Texas got a girl. I think it's Booker. I think booker. She wears KD number 35.
Ocho
You see what she shot from the field?
Joe
Boy, they did a number on her. She missed 17 straight shots, Joe and Ocho before she hit that last one late. I think within four or three. But she was.
Ocho
Oh, she was. She got plenty of game, Uncle Ocho. I done seen her play a few times this year. Yeah, but she won three or 23 for six points, bro. Yeah, ain't no. And look, they ain't, they ain't even lose by that many. I thought, you know, if she could have just played decent.
Joe
Oh, they beat him. Yeah, if she play. If they, if she play. And, and, and here's another thing. They shot five free throws, Joe, so that tells me they're not aggressive. No, it tells me they're settling for jumpers.
Ocho
Yeah. Yeah.
Joe
She's over four. She's over four from the three point line. And then she didn't shoot a free throw. Best starter. Only one starter shot a free throw. Let that sink in. Only one starter from the University of Texas shot a free throw. Damn.
Ocho
Yeah. Hey, Best did a number on them though. 11 boards, 16.7 for 10. She can play. I like her game.
Joe
Oh, she, she tall. She's six, six four.
Ocho
I think she like
Joe
it's gonna be. Can. Can. Can. How does UCLA handle the pressure of the Lady Gamecocks?
Ocho
Yeah. Yeah.
Uncle Joe
When they, when they play, huh?
Ocho
Tomorrow at like 2:30 or something.
Joe
2:30. Well, I'm glad I'm you Know, I'm.
Ocho
I'm glad they.
Joe
They moved it in front of the man because before Joe and Ocho, you know, they were. I think they. Weren't they playing after the men at one point in time? They're playing like on a Tuesday or have they always played on Sunday?
Ocho
I think they always play a day before the men.
Joe
Joe, do you remember. Do you remember Joe Ocho and the men's final four? They used to play a consolation game that the two teams that lost so, like, Arizona and Illinois would play.
Ocho
Oh, no, I ain't never. I ain't knowing that.
Joe
Yeah, they used to do that, Joe.
Ocho
I'd be pissed off. I wouldn't even want.
Joe
Oh, they say best six, seven. Damn.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's six, seven. She down there handling business too, boy.
Uncle Joe
She's. She's six.
Joe
What? Six, seven. Hey, hey, the thing is. Hey, she can't. Hey, she better. She better find her a Cooper flag. Cause she can't wear nothing but flip flops with a guy. Ain't no way she can put on new. She put on four inch heels, Joe. She damn well put on.
Ocho
Hey, could y' all date a girl taller than y'?
Uncle Joe
All? Yeah. Yeah. I didn't been there. I didn't been there before.
Ocho
You dated a girl?
Joe
Hey, Joe, in 2017, they moved it from Tuesday to Sunday. I. I knew they used to come on. I was like, bro, y' all anticlimactic. You got guys hitting buzzer beaters. Carolina hitting the Villanova hitting the buzzer beater. How you top that? Yeah, go before the men.
Ocho
Damn.
Joe
Question. Hey, Joe. What you asked me, Joe.
Ocho
I said, have y'. All. Have y' all dated a girl taller than y'?
Uncle Joe
All?
Joe
I have not.
Ocho
Oo say he have.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. You know, Joy had one by 65.
Ocho
Did you really?
Uncle Joe
Yeah, six. Six? Yeah.
Joe
The country. You know you can climb a tree.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, I was just getting ready to say that. Joe, you ain't never climbed. You ain't never climbed no tree. Nobody taller than you.
Joe
Bad Joe. Find somebody, she gonna be seven foot tall.
Ocho
Hey, hey, Ojo.
Joe
Hell, you went to the Amazon, right,
Ocho
Ocho, you say y' all the same size when you lay down, huh?
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Hey, boy.
Joe
Got one of the most suited knees when wasn't from the cobweb.
Ocho
Hey, all right, hold on. Where.
Joe
What's the guy? Lou all day. Those. Those are the tallest women on average. What? What is he Suited knees. I think he's through the knees. They the tall. They have the tallest women on average, Joe.
Ocho
Yeah. I ain't never dating no girl taller than me. I'm six, seven, six, eight. I mean, damn, you. I'm dating somebody. Six, nine.
Joe
Hold on.
Uncle Joe
Hey, Joe, hold on. Most of the time. Joe, when you was playing ball, like in high school and college, you. You dated other. Other Hoopers, right? No.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The girl I dated when I was in high school and college, she played ball.
Uncle Joe
She thought she was.
Ocho
She on about five, six.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, I'm talking about somebody like, six feet and better.
Ocho
Oh, man. No, no, no. You know, you don't never. You don't. You don't really. You. That's rare. You'll never really see two tall people together.
Uncle Joe
Bam. Bam. And Asia.
Ocho
I said it's real, Ocho.
Uncle Joe
Oh, my bad.
Joe
Yeah. Lisa Leslie and her husband. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ocho
They're my people. Yeah, yeah.
Joe
Lisa, like, six, four, six, five. And I think he, like, six, six, seven.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Joe
Yeah. Merton Hanks and his wife. You remember Burton Hanks, Ocho? Yeah, yeah.
Ocho
He.
Joe
His wife. His wife. Hell, his wife might be taller than him. Yeah, like six, three. She got him. She. I think she about six, four.
Ocho
Hey, I tell you what, I've never.
Joe
I've never dated. I've never dated a woman. But Ms. Betts, unless she get. Unless she get Nicola Jokic or the dude From Florida that's 7 foot 9, she can't wear no heels, right?
Ocho
Hey, but that's how you get. You a monster, though, boy. You get your ass. Because if the woman tall, the child probably pretty much gonna be tall. It has a lot to do with the woman.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, I tried. I tried, Joe.
Joe
I tried, bro.
Ocho
You tried? You ain't got no tall kids, Ocho.
Uncle Joe
I mean, yeah, yeah, they are.
Zach
They all.
Uncle Joe
They all tall. They all tall. But I'm just saying, at that time, during that time, I was like, hey, listen. And they were like, no, it ain't the right time. I catch you later on in life. I'm like, listen, I ain't. I ain't got time to waste.
Joe
Yeah, I mean, I dated women my height, six foot. I mean, my height, but not somebody like six, three, six, four, six, five.
Ocho
Yeah, if she put on here.
Uncle Joe
If she put on heels, then she taller than you.
Joe
Well, hey, she got away. She got to wear clogs or sandals. Because the thing is, you know, my grandma and grandfather used to say, say, boy, if you date a woman taller, you the first thing she get mad at you gonna hit you in your head. So I. So I always Thought, like, you know what? Nah, let me keep somebody. Look. Keep me a little five. Little five? Eight, five, five. No, I never dated a woman my height. Oh, okay. My bad. I've never dated a woman my height.
Uncle Joe
Okay, okay, okay.
Joe
I mean, taller than me. I'm my height. Six to two.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
I dated 16 2. I've never dated 163646 5. Definitely not, right, man, six, five.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Don't be scared.
Joe
I like for them to get on their tiptoes to kiss me like on my tiptoes kissing a woman.
Uncle Joe
Ain't nothing wrong with that, huh?
Joe
Man, you out your damn mind. Yeah, I know, Joe. What you think about? See, I'm on my tiptoes kissing her.
Uncle Joe
Ain't nothing wrong with that.
Joe
Now, you know, Joe, most of the time, women have been on their tiptoes kissing you.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
You ain't been on your tiptoes kissing no damn woman.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey, hey. You never know. You never know till you try it.
Joe
I'm good. I'm good. I don't got old nine. I'm. I'm shrinking, so.
Ocho
Yeah. Hey, hey, to find girls that tall, they. They far few in between, boy. Hey, you got to be in the right place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's I'm talking about. That's tall and proportion, right? I'm talking, right? Y' all know what I'm talking about.
Joe
I got kids.
Uncle Joe
I mean, I know what you're talking about, Joe. I'm with you. I'm picking up what you're putting down, baby.
Joe
What you say, Joe?
Ocho
I said, you know, hard to find a girl that's tall and she proportioned, right?
Uncle Joe
Yeah, they're right.
Joe
Yeah, yeah.
Ocho
You know what I'm talking about? Black eye, blood out. Yeah.
Joe
Oh, you volley. You got to get a volleyball player, then. You're right.
Uncle Joe
You're right.
Ocho
The volleyball girls. Different. Ain't they all?
Joe
Are they? Hey, you know. You know, O', Shea, she has a legs on her. She by five. She by five. Eight. Yeah, I'm talking about good 155.
Ocho
Yeah. You used to go to the games, huh?
Joe
Nah. Hell no.
Ocho
You. When you was in. When you was in college, you didn't go to the volleyball game?
Joe
I don't. I'm trying to think. Did we have a volleyball team when I was in college? I was in the league. She had. She had a. I think I was, like, 25. She was 20. No, I was 26.
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Joe
She was 22 because she had just got out of school, Right?
Ocho
That boy having tons of Fun boy, it's up.
Joe
Hey, on average.
Uncle Joe
Yes, sir.
Joe
I don't know if I've ever seen one that wasn't fine.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe
Now, if we'd have a track now. Track, women. Throw the disc in the shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uncle Joe
I remember them days. Them days over now, bro.
Joe
There you go. Hey, you're where everybody know what you like. You, you have a 12. But she ain't gonna be before I,
Uncle Joe
you know. Hey, listen, listen. I've had, you know, all different heights and sizes and, you know, weights, ethnicities. And listen, I'm like Skittles, man. I'm every color, everything in eight.
Ocho
Hey, hey, you gonna taste the rain.
Joe
You already said, Joe. Everything getting eight.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Taste the rainbow.
Ocho
He gonna taste the rainbow for sure.
Uncle Joe
I mean, you got to, you know, you got to.
Joe
Old fella, he just. He just working on. He just. He only. He a 8th degree, 9th degree tongue fu master. He just keep getting different belts.
Uncle Joe
Hey, man, it's only one way to get that black belt sometimes. Hey, listen, sometimes you got to set the standard, man, you know?
Joe
Hell, no. But. No, I couldn't imagine that, Joe. Honestly, I could. I mean, I wouldn't feel like a man. I mean, if you're a guy and you on your tiptoes to kiss the woman.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe
I mean, Joe, come on. Joe, you six, seven, six, eight. You on your tiptoes.
Ocho
No, because that means. That means she's six, nine. I just can't even see that. I can't see.
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Joe
You go, hey, you go out. You got. She got on heels. You. Are you black tie. You got a tux on. She got on heels.
Ocho
I got these hard bottoms on, and
Joe
they snap a picture. You on your tiptoe.
Uncle Joe
Hey, ain't never. Hey, hey, ain't nothing wrong with being vulnerable in that position, man, you know, for a change. Hey, hey, you. You and your soft era. Ain't nothing wrong with that.
Joe
No, no, no, man. Come on, Ocho.
Uncle Joe
I'm just saying. I'm just saying, you need. Don't knock it till you try it.
Joe
I'm just. Look, I mean, look, if you. If you're a short guy, problems, you 5, 2, 5, there's a great chance if you 5, 5, 5 or under as a guy, you probably gonna end up marrying somebody taller than you.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe
Because most of the time, you know, unless. Unless you like, you know, you date a little person. A little person. I mean, sometimes they get. As a matter of fact, Brad Williams, you know, he married. He married A. A not a little person. She's taller than he is. But for the most part, if you're a small guy, you. You're gonna probably end up with a. Yeah, I think.
Ocho
I think. I think smaller dudes, they.
Joe
And they.
Ocho
They kind of like that.
Joe
They do.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they do. They, I think, like, even when it comes to, like, you know, having a offspring and everything, they think about that. They think about, damn, I'm short. But if I give me a tall woman about five nine, five ten, and I ain't but, hell, five six, I might be all right.
Joe
Yeah. You know, if they're in between, yeah, I get somebody five five. I'm five five. Boy, we might have a little person and nothing wrong with a little person. I'm just saying, because you look at Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, Kanye. Kanye what? Kanye 5 5, but Kim 5 2.
Ocho
Damn.
Joe
That's what I'm saying. But to see these people in person and to see how small they actually are, it's like, damn, you, tiny.
Ocho
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Joe
Another day would you see. When you see celebs, you see them on television and you like, damn. And then when you actually see them in person, I'm talking about you see them with your own. You like, damn, you tiny. That's. That's the thing my sister ask me all the time. Well, how slate she not as tall as you think? She probably about 5, 5, 4. That's my height, right? Yeah, that was. She your height being. But. Nah, Joe, I'm. I'm with you, Joe, we ain't. I. I ain't getting on my tiptoe. Imagine I got on some. I got on some hard bottom shoes, and I'm on my tiptoes, my heels off the ground. Come on, Joe.
Ocho
I like it.
Joe
Or she said Ocho. They said Ocho kissed this girl taller than him and had one leg off the ground with his foot back. That would. That say, Joe.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey, hey, hey. That's a. That's a nice visual, man. You know? You know, I'm just. I'm just living. I'm just living, man.
Joe
This joker here. Hey, I don't know what to say about you, Ocho, man. Hey, I should have done a background check on you, man.
Uncle Joe
Listen, you don't gotta do no background check. I live every. I live my life publicly, man. It is what it is, man. You know?
Joe
Yeah, y' all right. Y' all said Nicole and Eddie Murphy. She was taller than he was.
Ocho
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Joe
Chisora via split decision and a scrappy but entertaining heavyweight.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
To put himself back in the conversation for a bigger fight. Wilder scored two knockdowns but was deducted for a point in the fifth. In Chisora's 50th and final pro fight. The two judges scored at 115, 111 and 115, 113 for Wilder, but one had it 115112 for Chisora or went through the ropes twice as both men spent much of the fight leaning on each other. Yeah. The bread appeared to tie in the later rounds and Wilder landed more as the fight went on. Chazor scored a knockdown in the 11th round, but it was a little too late. Too late as Wilder control the last round to secure the victory.
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
Oo you watched this fight?
Uncle Joe
Yeah.
Joe
What did you think?
Uncle Joe
I mean I, I, I enjoyed it. It wasn't a boxing, it wasn't a boxing match.
Joe
Uncle Joe Fest.
Uncle Joe
Hey, that was, that was a fight that was, that was war. It's a very entertaining fight. I mean it's what you, what you expected from two heavyweights. I don't really think that Wilder slip in the 11th. I think maybe 11th or the 10th. I think he slipped on, on the canvas, huh? Yeah.
Joe
I was like well damn.
Uncle Joe
Yeah he I think he slipped. Might have been some water maybe.
Joe
So I would only want man them
Ocho
dudes out there wrestling and everything man
Uncle Joe
but hey, hey, Joe, you know them boys tags.
Joe
That wasn't the sweet side, Ocho. You talking about you like the sweet size?
Uncle Joe
That was not.
Ocho
Hey, I see a lot of wild punches and all that. Hey, Ocho, it didn't look like, you know, like those guys really had much, you know, savvy when it comes to their skill, when it comes to their punches. Because I'm looking, I'm like, man, like these dudes in the backyard somewhere, the way they fighting.
Joe
Yeah. And what I noticed about Deontay Wilder, and that's the thing, it's like when he gets somebody in trouble, he really starts swinging wild.
Uncle Joe
Oh, yeah.
Joe
Hey, that's him.
Uncle Joe
He trying to connect. And if he connects, boys, lights out.
Joe
And the thing is, you tie yourself out. He was tired.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
Because if he wasn't tired, he'd have put Chazor. He had Chisoria in trouble.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, he did. I thought he almost got him out of there, too.
Joe
And eight.
Ocho
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
When he caught. When he. When he caught him, all he went. Went between them ropes.
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
I thought we would get him up out of there.
Joe
They went over the ropes, pulled him down. I was like, well, damn. Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Hey, hey, hey, Joe. When it comes to the sweet science and like. Like a pure boxer that's a heavyweight, if you ever see Usyk fight, that'd be that. That'd be what he fight. He's a heavyweight, but he fight like he's small.
Ocho
Oh, he got. He got some hands.
Joe
He got some hands together. Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Hey, he nice.
Ocho
Yeah, that's what I like to say. I like to see guys with great footwork can really.
Joe
No, he can fight for a heavyweight.
Ocho
Yeah, he could.
Uncle Joe
He fight like a little man.
Joe
Yeah, he does be nice and put punches together. He does. But, look, there were some punches thrown. It wasn't a whole lot of. Look, Was it artistic? No, no, no, no.
Uncle Joe
It was a. It was a war.
Joe
It was not art. I mean, hey, they was taking each other, Rabbit punching each other. They was in the. In the clutch. And you hit me, the back of my head, I'm gonna hit you in the back of your head.
Uncle Joe
Hey, I wonder. I wonder who Wilder gonna fight next, huh? Because this. This is good for him. This is great momentum. He needed a win, you know, after some tough defeats. So I'm. I listen, I'm happy for Wilder.
Joe
I'm curious who you think you can fight. Joshua.
Uncle Joe
I mean, Joshua was right there, you know, sitting ringside. That's a possibility. I'm not.
Joe
Both got glass chins. Neither one of Them needed. Neither one of them need to see or what you call them or usick you sick.
Uncle Joe
No, no, no, no.
Joe
No one.
Ocho
But if Joshua and Wilder fight, who, who, who, who would y' all get an edge to?
Uncle Joe
Oh, that's a good one.
Ocho
Me too, man.
Uncle Joe
Joshua's a good one.
Ocho
He more of a boxer.
Uncle Joe
Yeah, he's more. He's more of a pure boxer.
Joe
Yes. Just the skill set.
Uncle Joe
One thing, one thing though. Even though he's a better boxer, Wilder has a punches chance.
Joe
For sure.
Uncle Joe
He has a punches chance.
Joe
He. Because we know Anthony Joshua Chin ping. A lingaling is glass window paint. It is, yeah.
Uncle Joe
I mean once you get knocked out, it just. You're more susceptible to get knocked out after that. After the first time.
Ocho
Damn. Yeah.
Joe
So you take. You would take water? Ocho.
Uncle Joe
Nah, I mean my calm common sense. I would go with Joshua.
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Yeah. I would go with Joshua. And yeah, I'm a Wilder.
Joe
But I would see, I would watch it. I pay to watch it.
Uncle Joe
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Joe
They got about 45 for this, man. Hey, hey, listen.
Uncle Joe
That. That was worth 45. Yeah, it was entertaining. It was entertaining. It's not, it's not, you know, not. Not the, the artistry. It's not the sweet science, but it was a war.
Ocho
Yeah, they fought probably.
Joe
I think we agree. I think we all agree. I think it's probably two guys that's a little bit past their prime. Yeah, but it was entertaining. Yeah. Yeah, it was entertaining. Jokic outdo Wimby in the OT thriller. Jokic had a game high 40 points, 13 assists, 8 rebounds, 3 blocks, no turnovers. Denver snapped San Antonio's 11 game winning streak and extended his run to 8 straight. Jokic strung together a third outing with at least 40 points and 10 assists in 3 blocks. Only D. Wade has recorded more such games. 5 since blocks first became an official stat in 1973. 74. It was also Yogic 7th career aim with at least 30 points, 10 assists and 0 turnovers. Hey, that was. You know what? They're not even in this position. If it's not for Aaron Gordon, the job that he did, a man his size, sliding his feet, staying in front of de' Aaron Fox, man. De' Aaron Fox, man, that joke. Hey, he quick as a cat on the hot tin roof.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
And every. Everywhere he went, Gordon beat him to the point. No, you're not going there. Yeah, you ain't going there. Nope, you're not going there. Made him airball it. And then he came down and found himself, got loose and he dunked the ball home.
Ocho
Aaron Gordon is an intricate piece.
Joe
Yep.
Ocho
For the Denver Nuggets. Like, if they got him Uncle Ocho, they probably could beat anybody in a place in a playoff series. Man, listen, this is a hell of a game, man. And these teams messing around and running to each other in the playoffs. It's gonna go seven. Yeah, y. Oh, it's gonna go seven, man. I'm talking about Wimy 34, 18, seven.
Joe
Five blocks.
Ocho
Five blocks. Jokic out here just 48, 13, like.
Uncle Joe
And you saw that step back, that step back shot over Whip.
Joe
Yeah.
Uncle Joe
Over Wimby.
Joe
That one legged shot. He done hit that thing so many times. We don't see him hit that shot so many times against the Lakers in the postseason.
Ocho
Yeah.
Joe
And they. Somebody. It ain't no luck. That's his shot.
Ocho
Nah, nah. Hey, he a bad boy, man. Bad boy.
Joe
He crazy. It's ridiculous.
Ocho
I love watching him play, man. I just feel like he played, Uncle. I feel like he played. I'm talking about Yogic. I feel like Jokic plays the right way. He never forces the action, you know, if he need to turn it up, he always knows that. And obviously, playing against these spurs, he knew that he was going to have to come out and play big tonight. And every time, bro, he answers the bell like. That's why I say the West, a gauntlet, bro. Like, you come out the west, you gonna be so beat up. You gonna be so beat up, you're gonna probably.
Joe
To come out of the west, you're gonna probably have to beat the Nuggets, OKC or San Antonio, you have to probably beat two or three.
Ocho
Yeah, you're gonna have to beat two of them. least two. Yeah.
Joe
Oh, we two of them.
Ocho
They got too.
Joe
And I love the man. Look here, San Antonio come to play.
Ocho
Yeah, they got too much. They. San Antonio got a lot of guys who could play. Denver got a lot of guys who can play that know, they roll like this is an even matchup, like 134 to 136. Yeah. They couldn't stop each other.
Joe
No. Because basically everybody was shooting a pretty good. I mean, and I like that women was putting pressure on him because he got to the free throw line 17 times. So I like the fact that he's putting pressure. Same thing with Jokic. Yoga's getting to the free throw line 15 times. That tells me he's putting pressure on the defense.
Ocho
Yes, sir.
Joe
They're not settling.
Ocho
No, man,
Joe
but this was a game I was like, damn.
Ocho
Yeah. These two heavyweights, bro, I'm Talking about going at it. That's gonna be fun.
Joe
It's gonna be very. Look, I can't wait to see who we. Who The. The. Because if. If we're gonna talk about this. Luca. Luca. If he doesn't play anymore, he's gonna be over the 65 games. Now that brings somebody else into what.
Ocho
Hold on, hold on. If he missed the rest of this season, meaning regular season, game.
Joe
He can't. He.
Ocho
It's over with, Unc. He done. He done. He done for the regular season. It's over with.
Joe
Yep. They talk about trying to file a petition because he missed two games for the birth of his daughter, but you know, you're going down a slippery slope if you do that. But. No, but this game right here, this game was so entertaining. I mean, the Nuggets. I mean, you thought the spurs, like, had it under control, and here come the Nuggets. Here they come.
Ocho
Yeah. They gonna always find a way to stay in the game, stay close. And because they got closers, they got guys who play the right way, play hard, compete championship pedigree. It's gonna be hard to beat them dudes in seven game series, man.
Joe
Oh, for sure. And you know, and Watson didn't play today, but they got. And the thing is that they got a bench because you look at Watson and Hardaway Jr. Yeah. Valentunius. Valentunas.
Ocho
Yeah. Tyus Jones, Bruce Brown, they got some guys, man.
Joe
Yeah, they got a nice bench, but
Ocho
they need Gordon to stay healthy boy.
Joe
Yes.
Ocho
Stay healthy.
Joe
I'm surprised he and Jamal Murray didn't shoot a free throw. But Jamal Murray did have 15 points and 10 assists.
Ocho
Yeah, obviously.
Joe
Yoko. Yoko, with that herculean effort that he had. But this was. This was a game.
Ocho
It was really.
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Shannon Sharpe and the panel (including Ocho and Uncle Joe) break down a wild slate of recent sports action, focusing on:
Recap (02:10): South Carolina Lady Gamecocks defeat UConn Huskies 62–48. A postgame altercation occurs: UConn's Geno Auriemma gets in Don Staley’s face, leading to a heated exchange. Auriemma later issues a public apology.
Hosts’ Reaction:
Broader Context:
Salute to Don Staley:
Notable Quotes:
Recap (24:32): UCLA beats Texas 51–44, led by Lauren Betts (16 pts, 11 reb, 3 blks). Kiki Rice seals the game with late free throws.
Texas’ Struggles: Texas star (Booker, #35) shoots 3/23, missing 17 straight shots.
UCLA’s Defense: Praise for Lauren Betts’s dominance on the boards and shot-blocking.
Looking Ahead: Panel debates how UCLA will handle South Carolina’s defensive pressure in the next round (26:21).
Fight Recap (42:05): Deontay Wilder wins via split decision—fight is described as more of a brawl than a technical boxing match.
Fight Details:
What’s Next for Wilder?
Notable Quotes:
Game Recap (47:04): Denver Nuggets (Jokic) outlast San Antonio Spurs (Wembanyama) in OT.
Player Praise:
Memorable Moment:
The show keeps its trademark blend of unfiltered, humorous sports talk with a barbershop vibe:
This Nightcap Hour 2 episode delivers passionate, insightful commentary on recent upsets and outstanding individual performances. Shannon Sharpe’s panel doesn’t shy from holding leaders accountable—demanding respect for women’s sports and integrity in competition—while maintaining the loose, lively banter that makes Club Shay Shay a fan favorite for sports talk with personality.