Nightcap Hour 2: Unc and Ocho are joined by track phenom Kenny Bednarek to talk the World Championships in Japan

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 2: Kenny Bednarek on World Championships, Rivalries, and Sprinting Greatness

Date: September 21, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Guest Co-Host: Chad "Ocho" Johnson
Special Guest: Kenny Bednarek, World/Olympic Silver Medalist Sprinter

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Episode Overview

In this engaging Nightcap Hour, Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ocho" Johnson welcome U.S. sprinting star Kenny Bednarek. They discuss Kenny's continued pursuit of gold at major championships, the mechanics and mindset of world-class sprinting, friendly rivalries on the track, and the evolving landscape of track and field. The conversation mixes technical insight, motivational moments, and lighthearted banter about football, gaming, and life outside the sport.

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Key Topics & Discussion Highlights

1. NFL Quarterbacks: Franchise Debate

[03:07–09:50]

• Shannon and Ocho banter about Bleacher Report’s list of “true franchise quarterbacks” – Mahomes, Allen, Lamar Jackson, Stafford – and why others (Burrow, Hurts, Love, Daniels, Mayfield) were left in the next tier.
• Shannon: "You got to be on the field. Come." [05:25]
• Ocho: “The Bengals have a franchise quarterback whether he gets hurt or not.” [05:11]
• Debate over what defines a “franchise QB”: Is it talent, durability, the ability to elevate a team no matter the system, or all of the above?
• Ocho argues several young QBs and team-builders belong in the top tier, not just the four listed.
• Shannon: “There’s only been a handful of true franchise quarterbacks in every era… we used to make guys play three, four good years before we bestowed that title.”

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2. Welcoming Kenny Bednarek: The Silver Streak

[09:51–12:14]

• Bednarek joins after securing multiple consecutive silver medals at the Olympics and World Championships.
• Shannon: "You keep knocking at the door… what do you got to do to get the gold, Kenny?" [09:51]
• Kenny: “I just gotta work on the small little things… I just gotta figure out how to get that last 10 meters.” [10:56]

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3. Handling Pressure and Race Night Mindset

[12:14–12:36]

• Ocho inquires about Kenny’s mental state just before big races.
• Kenny: “Younger me, the nerves were really there. But now… I just embrace the moment… as soon as they say ‘set’… I’m in that flow state.” [12:14]

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4. Relay Team Tactics & Baton Follies

[12:36–15:43]

• Concerns over U.S. relay handoff history; prepping for the World Championships relay.
• Kenny breaks down their lineup: Christian Coleman starts, Kenny on second leg, Courtney Lindsay third, Noah Lyles anchors.
• Kenny: “We always had the foot speed, but it’s more so the precision of the baton… we’re gonna get the job done this time.” [13:02]

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5. International Rivalries and Race Dynamics

[15:43–16:46]

• Playful banter about rivals (e.g., Botswana’s 4x400 and Canadian relay teams).
• Discussion on the influx of global sprint talent across distances and the challenge of defending titles.

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6. Off-Track Life and Kenny’s Hobbies

[17:02–19:29]

• Kenny shares love for the outdoors, skiing, basketball, and, notably, gaming (Madden, 2K).
• Ocho challenges Kenny to both a Madden duel and a (jokingly) real 200m race:
  Ocho: "You can't even beat me in the 200 if we race, Kenny." [17:35]
  Kenny: "Hey, you better bring your spikes right now." [17:41]

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7. Rivalry with Noah Lyles & Track Drama

[19:08–20:43]

• Kenny describes a pre-race beef and post-race shove with Noah Lyles:
  • Kenny: “We just had a little beef that was kind of going on… We both could have handled the situation a little bit different… I don’t play when it comes to stuff like that.” [19:29]
  • Acknowledges healthy competition benefits the sport.
  • Dispels rumors about his involvement with the "track spice" burner account.

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8. Female Sprinting Greatness (Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone, etc.)

[25:39–29:11]

• The panel marvels at Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone’s historic 400m and 400m hurdles runs.
  • Shannon: “When you saw her run… what went through your mind when you saw 47.78?” [26:55]
  • Kenny: "Sydney's a gamer... she should just go after that world record." [27:12]

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9. 2026 Ultimate Championships & Sprint Training Insights

[29:11–31:44]

• Kenny explains World Athletics' "Ultimate Championships": a new, elite event with semifinals and finals only for the best-ranked.
• Prize money discussed ($100k–$150k to the winner).
• Ocho boasts about being Kenny’s ideal training partner, and Kenny jokingly accepts only if Ocho can beat him in a race.
• Kenny details Team Dennis Mitchell’s loaded training group out of Orlando.

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10. Body, Training and Technical Growth

[32:49–36:10]

• Kenny surprises Shannon and Ocho with his sprinter physique (6’2”, 190–192 lbs).
  • Kenny: “Most of my muscle is in my legs… every year, I've been getting faster and stronger.” [32:56]
• Kenny discusses how coming from a 400m background and cross-country as a kid contributed to his endurance and power.
  • Kenny: “I ran cross country through 7th grade… it helped my endurance.”

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11. Unconventional Path: Adopted, Junior College, and Drive

[36:10–38:21]

• Kenny recounts being adopted, going to community college (Indian Hills, Iowa), nearly missing out on recruiting due to GPA, and his mother’s influence.
  • Kenny: “My mom… a single mother adopting four kids… was the blueprint for working hard every single day.” [36:35]

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12. Chasing Gold & Lane Assignments

[38:21–40:32]

• Kenny is less focused on beating individual rivals like Noah Lyles, more on chasing gold.
  • Kenny: “It’s not really just about beating him. It’s just about getting that gold medal…” [38:47]
• Lane 8 challenges; running blind; lessons from watching Wayde van Niekerk’s Rio 400m win.

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13. Rest, Reset, and Global Travel

[40:34–42:08]

• Kenny’s offseason: 1–2 months off, preventative work, global sightseeing (e.g., Thailand, the Philippines, Tokyo).
  • Kenny: “I just love to travel and see the world.” [41:09]

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14. Evolving Sprint Talent and Repeat Champions

[42:21–46:39]

• Discussion of why repeat champions are rare in the 400m and hurdles – depth of talent, rising new stars, training innovation.
• Kenny: “There’s just a lot of talented people in the world… that’s why it’s hard.” [42:52]
• Growth in global sprinting depth highlighted by multiple sub-20 200m runners in a single race.

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15. Modern Training: Recovery, Science, & Staying on Top

[45:29–45:56]

• Bednarek invests in massage, cold plunge, sauna, red light therapy, “a lot of hard work.”
• Candid about the grind and need for continual adaptation to remain at the elite level.

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16. Goals and Sprinting Mechanics

[48:35–56:10]

• Kenny sets his sights on the American 100m record (9.68/9.69).
  • Kenny: “I want to go after the American record for the 100 meters.” [48:43]
• Discusses how close he is, that the main gain will come from better starts.
  • Kenny: “Usually for me, it’s in the first 20, 30, 40 meters. If I can set up perfectly, then I can get it.” [54:37]
• Technical details: differences in 100/200 training; importance of technical execution and strengths built by practicing with elite group.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You can step into the lions then, but he ain’t gonna do anything there.”
  — Kenny on whether rivals should move out of hurdles into his 200m domain [16:11]

• “I don’t play when it comes to stuff like that. Every time I step on the track, I want to whoop his ass.”
  — Kenny, on rivalry with Noah Lyles [20:02]

• “It’s not really just about beating him. It’s about getting that gold medal… my focus is just on that.”
  — Kenny on shifting motivation from rivalry to legacy [38:47]

• “You can build all this speed, but it don’t mean anything if you’re not technically sound.”
  — Kenny on the importance of precise, technical training [56:10]

• “There’s always someone coming up… you need the right coach, right program. That’s why it’s so hard.”
  — Kenny, on sprinting’s competitive churn [42:52]

• “My mom… single mother adopting four kids… was the blueprint for working hard every day.”
  — Kenny on his background and motivation [36:35]

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Engaging Banter, Gaming, and Offbeat Humor

• Ocho jocularly claims he could beat Kenny at both Madden and a 200m dash, despite protests and laughter.
• The trio poke fun at each other throughout, notably on Ocho’s tech purchases and gaming, and end with playful recaps of viral sports moments.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Topic | Timestamp | |---|---|---| | NFL Franchise QB Debate | [03:07–09:50] | | Kenny Bednarek Introduction | [09:51–12:14] | | Pre-Race Mindset | [12:14–12:36] | | U.S. Relay & Baton Trouble | [12:36–15:43] | | Rivalries & Beef with Lyles | [19:08–20:43] | | Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone Discussion | [25:39–29:11] | | Training Group/Environment | [31:14–31:44] | | Physique & Training | [32:49–36:10] | | Unconventional Upbringing | [36:10–38:21] | | Chasing Gold, Lane Strategies | [38:21–40:32] | | Offseason & Recovery | [40:34–42:08] | | Modern Sprint Training | [45:29–45:56] | | Sprinting Goals & Mechanics | [48:35–56:10] |

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Conclusion

The episode delivers a fascinating portrait of Kenny Bednarek’s competitive mindset, the nuances of sprint success, and the camaraderie that blends elite sports and entertainment. Listeners come away with a sense of the sacrifice, detail, and relentless pursuit that defines world-class sprinting, punctuated by the fun and insights of Club Shay Shay’s signature style.

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[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

In I don't have a problem with that 4, but the whole point of the list was teams that have franchise quarterbacks, I thought.

[Shannon Sharp]

Right? Yes. Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Well, they can't, they can't choose the tiers based on franchise quarterbacks because we're not talking about who's the best. We're just talking about teams that have franchise quarterbacks. The Bengals have a franchise quarterback whether he gets hurt or not.

[Shannon Sharp]

Well, you got to be on the field. Come.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh come on. Don't do that. Because he hurt.

[Shannon Sharp]

But that's what I'm saying. That's, that's, that's, that's why they docked Him.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharp]

Think about Ojo, first year, what did he do? AC first year, acl. What? The third year it was, what was his head or his shoulder?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, I think his wrist.

[Shannon Sharp]

His wrist. Remember his wrist? Now if, hold on. What is it now? Oh, was it hurting that?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Remember his toe?

[Shannon Sharp]

His toe, his toe, yeah. Turned toe. So there's a possibility Ocho, he can miss.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

He coming back in December? He'll be back in December.

[Shannon Sharp]

That's if everything goes perfect.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, it's definitely going well. It's gonna go well. I'm talking about, he's gonna be fine. Especially with, with, with, with technology and stuff. But brother Jay Browning, you gonna see tomorrow. I don't mean to, I don't mean to. I'm gonna speak things in existence. You know, my grandma always told me, anything you want, all you have to do is speak it into existence. But we finna beat the brakes off Minnesota, man. We from the beat breaks off Minnesota and Carson wins.

[Shannon Sharp]

Huh?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

But now back to the topic at hand. It's a small selection of quarterbacks. Teams that have franchise quarterbacks. Justin Herbert is a franchise quarterback. Jalen Hurst is the franchise quarterback. They're going on specifics based on the way they win. As Knox. Oh, because he doesn't pass? Well, because didn't have a lot. No, that had nothing to do with it. There are teams that have quarterback that you can build around. Jaden Daniels, C.J. stroud. These are franchise altering quarterbacks for the next 10 years. These teams don't have to do anything except build around those quarterbacks. So I, I, I, I agree with the four, but there are others that belong in that category. And if, if we talk about the best quarterbacks, then you can put them in tears. You can, you can do that. You can nitpick, you know, when we talk about tears and who's better. But the topic was what teams have franchise quarterbacks. And those are quarterbacks that you don't have to touch or be worried about and just have to build around them.

[Shannon Sharp]

I think that plus you got to look at a franchise quarterback. If I took, if I took, if I took Jay, if I took Jalen Hurts and I gave him Patrick Mahomes offense, could he get that team to a Super Bowl? Could he do what he did in Philly?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, that's different. That's different.

[Shannon Sharp]

I like, I like that because that's what, that's what they're saying when they look at a franchise quarterback. They said if it's kind of like the job situation. If we remove the hedge which is the greatness of that offensive line. If we remove that running game, we took A.J. brown, we took Devonte and let's just say we gave you Kansas City's offense, right? Okay, let's just say we gave you Buffalo's offense. Could you still be, could you still get that team to the playoffs? Could you still go win a Super Bowl?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I see. I like, I like that you did that. Now when you did that, that changes the whole dynamic. That changes everything because you can put Mahomes on any team and he'll have success. You can put Lamar Jackson.

[Shannon Sharp]

So what would Mahomes look like with that, with, with, with, with Phillies offensive line, that running game and those receivers.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That wouldn't be fair.

[Shannon Sharp]

Or you put Josh, put Josh Allen in that. To put Josh Allen in that system.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Put Lamar Jackson in it.

[Shannon Sharp]

Put, put Lamar in there. Okay. If I turn around, if I take Patrick Mahomes and I put him in Lamar system, it's gonna be the same thing. If I put Josh, if I took Matthew Stafford and put him in Philly.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, hey, listen. And you gotta think everybody you mentioning, you talk about gunslingers. Yes, gunslingers. Just having the addition of a running back and offensive line like that. If you put any of those quarterbacks in Philly, it's almost unfair, right? It's almost unfair when you think about it.

[Shannon Sharp]

So I look, I understand because I think the thing is. Oo you're like, oh, he's really good. Yeah, there's always only been like, like franchise altering. Yeah, there's only been a handful of them in, in every, in, in the 80s. You go back, you go back, look at the 90s, you go back, you look at the 2000s, you look at the tens and there's only been a handful of them. There's never been 10 franchise quarterbacks. We just now anybody that have a good, a good year, they're a franchise quarterback now where we used to make guys play three, four good years before we bestowed that title on them. That's where we used to be. Oo with any position, not just the quarterback.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharp]

Bro, you couldn't just go to the Pro bowl and then all of a sudden say oh, I'm a top, I'm a top flight wide receiver. Or X, Y and Z. Oh. Oo we got a very special guest joining us. Hey, this guy won the silver medal in the 2 in the 200 meters in Tokyo. The world in Tokyo, the Olympic game in 2024. He back again. He won the silver medal again. And the world Championships in Eugene. In 24, he won the silver medal in the 200. In Tokyo, just the other day, he won the silver medal in the 200 meters. Hey, at some point in time, he says, I keep knocking on the door. I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be the first one to be. I'm gonna be the first one to get in the house. Kenny, your fourth championship, you get silver. How difficult? Cause I know you're in great condition. You dropped down to the 100. Everything was perfect. You got great endurance, you got great speed. You built that. I know you. Please. Look, you got on the podium, and at the end of the day, yeah, I podium. But the goal. What you got to do to get the goal, Kenny? Man.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I just gotta work on the small little things. I mean, like you said before, I'm in really good shape. I have the endurance, I got the speed, I got everything. I just gotta figure out how to get that last 10 meters. Cause that's where it seems like it's been, you know, just getting away from me.

[Shannon Sharp]

Right there, right there. You right there. Hey, this last race, Kenny, I thought I said. Oh, damn, look at Kenny. Hey, he pulled up on you. You like, okay, you pulled ahead and like you said, it was that last 10 meters, I was like, damn, Kenny.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah. I mean, honestly, I would say for this championship, this was the best second half I ever had in a while. Cause usually I always attend to get in the lead and I kind of give it away, but yeah, as soon as Lavelle kind of got right next to me, it was just, hey, make sure not to panic. I already know that I'm in good shape and just keep on going and, you know, doing that from lane eight, that's all I can ask for. So I. I mean, yeah, it's like a little bittersweet moment right now for me because I've always been knocking on that door. But, you know, eventually I'm gonna get it. Because every single year, you go kick.

[Shannon Sharp]

The door in, huh?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I'm gonna put my foot in that door.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, perfect. Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

First off, I want to say congratulations. And I. I wanted to take me through what it's like, that moment before you get in the blocks. What's that feeling like? Crowd is. Is it quiet or do you hear the noise? Do you have butterflies? Are you nervous? I'm curious what that feeling is like before that gun goes off for you.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I feel like younger me. The nerves are really there. But now, you know, I'm a vet now, and I've been. I'VE been here for a very long time, but, yeah, the. I just embrace the moment. I mean, the crowd doesn't get too big for me. I literally stare at the crowd right before the race and like, okay, it's go time. And as soon as. As soon as, you know, they say set, you know, everything is. Is ready to go. I'm in that flow state, so just trying to execute my race and go.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay, okay. I like it.

[Shannon Sharp]

Kenny. Man, all I want to know is, man, look, we got all these fast hundred meter guys. Can we get the baton around the track? That's all I want to know. Kenny. Kenny, can we get. Can we. Look, I mean, far too many times on the global stage, Kenny, we got the fastest men, but somehow the baton end up on the track or we get out. We get out of our passing lanes. Can we get it around the track tomorrow?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Hey, we for sure gonna do it. I mean, well, we got eight more hours to go, so I'm getting ready for that, but we've been. We've been practicing hard, and we're ready to go. I mean, like you said before, it's. We. We always had the foot speed, but it's more so the. The precision of the baton and just making sure to do our job. Man, we're gonna get the job done this time.

[Shannon Sharp]

Okay, let me see if I get this right. Okay, Christian Coleman's gonna start it off. He's the greatest starter in American history. Yeah. Are you. Are you still at second leg, or did they move you to third?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I think I'm still in second. I mean, that's where I feel like I'm best utilized. And, you know, I'm gonna make sure to do my job. So we're gonna handle our business when it comes to that.

[Shannon Sharp]

Obviously, Noah's gonna be on the anchor, and he's. When. When he's been anchored, we have yet to lose.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

So who go. Who goes third?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I think Courtney and Lindsay, my training partner. So, yeah, I think, you know, the good thing about this relay squad is, you know, Christian's my teammate, Courtney's my teammate. So already we already have that chemistry. So I think.

[Shannon Sharp]

Okay, okay, okay. Just keep it close. Just keep it close.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

You know, Canada, they powder their chairs. The garage, he powdered his chair. He doing all this. I don't want to see none of that. I don't want to see none of that. I don't want to see none of that.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Tomorrow, like I said, we're going to handle business. I mean, Canada, you know, they. They. They Always kind of, they always get things right. I mean, I want to say they're sneaky, but I mean they, they've been using the same squad for the last, what, eight years or something like that. So they got, they got those handoffs down. So we just got to make sure to do our job and we do that, then we're good.

[Shannon Sharp]

You one of the few guys that's ever been able to run, you know, sub 20, you know, you run sub 45. It was, it was really shaky. It was really shaky for the 400 meters we had to run against. I think it was the Kenyans or somebody is just two people, just two teams and it was basically whoever finished first. Ah, I saw the Botswana team and they looking good. I'm scared. I ain't gonna lie to you, kitty. I'm scared. They go 135 and they didn't even have to BOGO. If they bring to BOGO. They ran 257 without to BOGO. I'm nervous, Kenny. I'm like, I'm like a long tail dog on a porch full of rocking chairs. I'm nervous like that, Kenny.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Hey, I mean, I trust that they're going to handle their business. It's good. I mean last year was very close race and it's going to be wire to wire for this one too. So they just got to make sure to do their job and, you know, we're going to see who finished first.

[Shannon Sharp]

Can we get. They gonna let Bird? They're gonna let the old man. Y' all know Vern is a gamer.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

They call it the old man.

[Shannon Sharp]

Vern is a gamer. Bird is a gamer.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah. I mean, I, I don't know. I mean I haven't, I haven't spoken to the coaches. I don't really know what team they're going to put up but you know, they're going to put the best players down and like I said, it's going to be wire to wire. So it's going to be a blast to watch that race.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah. Only thing I'm certain of is a ride running anchor leg. He said something very interesting yesterday. I don't know if you heard him. Did you hear what he said? He's not going to run very many hurdles. He. Look at him coming down to the four and the two. Oh, you said that that's your territory. Yeah, that's what Ross said. Now if it's a lie, he told it, man.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

He don't want to come. He don't want to come down to the two. We got Too many people.

[Shannon Sharp]

He says, I'm coming. I said, I'm not going to run as many hurdle races. I. I'm doing four and the two. That's what he's saying.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

You can step into the lions then, but he ain't gonna do anything there.

[Shannon Sharp]

Oh, I'm just. Hey, now, you know, hey, now, I'm gonna bro this now. Guess what? You said I'm say, right? We had kung fu on and he said, you can come to the lions then if you want to say you okay, but ain't nothing popping down here now. You might as well go ahead and stay with the hurdles, deal with Dos Santos, deal with Warhol, deal with Samba. Don't come fooling with me. Me. And no, don't do that.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Hey, like, yeah, don't do that. You can, you can stick with the floor, but don't come down to that too.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, it ain't sweet.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, Kenny, outside of track, do you. I mean, I know you guys are busy obviously, when you're locked in, when you're in season. What do you like outside of track? Do you have any hobbies? Do you have anything else that you're passionate about that you like to spend your time, time doing?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I like to do anything that just requires me to be outdoors. It can be simple things. It's just like atv, just sitting by a bonfire, being with friends and family. I like skiing, playing basketball. I like playing video games.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

What you play?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I've been playing Madden 2K every now and then. Okay, well, you play Madden?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I'm the best Madden player in the world. What you mean, do I play Madden?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Man, I probably could beat you right now. Probably not even that good.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Can I tell you something real quick?

[Shannon Sharp]

What, Kenny?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You can't even beat me in the 200 if we race. Kenny.

[Shannon Sharp]

What'd you say?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Hey, you better bring your spikes right now.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, my spike's right here in the trunk.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah, you better put those on right now. I'll see you soon.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay, let me know whenever you're in Miami. Matter of fact, I can come to you.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah, come to me.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay, no problem. We could do that. We could film it.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

You could probably like 20, 22, 23 seconds.

[Shannon Sharp]

23, 8, 9. Kitty.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You know what I ran? What? I ran in high school.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

What'd you run in High School?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

19 2.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah, right.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, I ran 192 in high school.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Hey, another thing I was gonna say also, I also started picking up some kung fu stuff, you know, because my whole thing is kung fu, Kenny. So this year I started doing a.

[Shannon Sharp]

Little bit of that.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

But I had to be careful because obviously, you know, being a sprinter and everything, that there's a lot of things I can do, can't do.

[Shannon Sharp]

But you skiing, you ain't thinking about you being a sprinter. You skiing, you riding ATVs, you doing a lot of stuff that can really. That's really detrimental to somebody that use. That needs their legs.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah, I know. My. My girlfriend, literally, she'd be telling me not to do these things, but I'm like, bro, I need to do something to let my brain kind of be at ease because, you know, I do track as a. As a job. I used. You know, it used to be just for love, and now it's a job. So I got to do something outside to go back to be okay, I can do what I can do again. But, yeah, it's just hard to, you know, figure out what exactly I want to do outside. So I'll do things I'm really not supposed to every now and then. But, you know, just one time. There's nothing wrong with one time. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Look, we saw the net, we saw the USAs, and we saw the 200, and you said, hey, this is. Hey, this is gonna be the day that I get it done. And we thought, hey, you were so close. And then Noah kind of nipped yet at the tape and then kind of gave you a shove. So what happened? Yeah. Yeah. You shoved him.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah. So I'm just trying to.

[Shannon Sharp]

I'm trying to figure out what happened.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

We just had a little beef that was kind of going on, and did.

[Shannon Sharp]

It start before the race or do. It started after. He, like, he. He looked at you like some kind of. He looked at you sideways.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

It started before the race, so then, you know, once, you know, we crossed the finish line and I saw that, you know, I gave him that shove. And, you know, we both could have handled the situation a little bit different. We both have mutual respect for each other, but, you know, I don't. I don't play when it comes to stuff like that.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Right.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

And all I can say is that, you know, every single time I step on track, you know, I. I want to whoop his ass.

[Shannon Sharp]

He'll stop looking at you if you beat him, Katie. You gotta beat him.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah, I know. Like I said, he's been getting the better than me for years, so like I said, I'm just trying to improve myself. Every single time I step on the track, every single year, I've been getting better, stronger, faster, and that time is coming soon.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

And Kenny Is really nothing wrong with a little friendly competition. Nothing wrong.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah, I mean, it's definitely good for the sport. I mean, the fact that every. I mean, when I did, I didn't think anything of it. And then, you know, it was all over the news. I was like, oh, okay, I guess.

[Shannon Sharp]

You showed a man in the back and y' all running. You ain't think nothing of it.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Hey, like I said, it was spur of the moment. But like I said, we. We discussed about it and you know, we. We on the same page and we got that mutual respect for each other. But yeah, it's definitely good for a sport. We need healthy rivalries. Rivalries, right. That. So every single time, you know, I. Like I said, I stepped down in the 100. You know, I didn't do what I wanted to do when it came to the finals, but, you know, I was in really good shape to do something crazy in that 100 finals. So, you know, I'm just excited for the next years, you know.

[Shannon Sharp]

Oh, yeah, There are the rumors swirling that that burner count track spice, then that might be you.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Nah, that's not me. Hey, all I can say about that is that me, my social media team, we don't. We don't handle that account at all. I mean, when it comes to that, that's just noise. And I just try to ignore that. I mean, that's all drama for me. I just focus on. On track and, you know, people are going to say what they're going to say. They're going to believe me. Whether they believe me or not, it doesn't really matter to me.

[Shannon Sharp]

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[Shannon Sharp]

Did she win the USAs? She goes on the global stage and runs the second fastest time that's ever been run. A lot of people like, I mean, think about how many women have run 40. They like, no, nobody's going to do it. I didn't think I was going to see a woman be able to. Because really, when you think about it, no one has really come close. I mean, think about nobody. Nobody has come within a half a second of Coke's record until Sid, when she ran 4829. I said, well, knowing that, who's in this race? Because, you know, Ken, in order to get a. A fast time or world record or championship records, you need two things. You need competition in the race and you need conditions. Now, she didn't get the conditions, but she got Paulino and she got Nasser. And when she got them, she knew. Because when Paulino got lane eight, she knew. And Pauline did something she normally knows. She don't normally go out like that. NASA's always going to take it out. So if I'm sitting there, I'm thinking, Bobby Kersey probably told her, NASA's going to take it out. Attach yourself to Nasser, let her pull you to Paulino. You're strong enough in the last 100 to bring it home. When you saw her run, when you saw her get out and she was smooth and you saw that time, what went through your mind when you saw 47, 78? I wasn't surprised.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I mean, after. After seeing Cindy do what she did in the previous race, I was just like, world record. I think she can hit it.

[Shannon Sharp]

Wow.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I mean, Sydney, Sydney. Sydney's a gamer. Like, she's a dog. I mean, you know, we've seen what she's done in the hurdles. I wasn't sure exactly what she was going to do when she came down to the four. You know, the first race she ran, I was like, okay, that looked pretty good. But, yeah, she's a hard worker. And I mean, yeah, that's insane. Yeah. I don't know what she's going to do after this year, but I feel like, hey, you should just go after that world record. You're so close. You might as well. You might as well just go after it. I mean, the hurdles, right? Now for her just, you know, that's her main event and it's easy for her. So you know, just test yourself what she did this year and just try to get that world record next year.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, I think, I think the thing, what she really wants to do, Kenny, she wants to take that, she wants to take the hurdles under 50 because she knows that she said she puts that record under 50. That record might be like FloJo 100 meters. It might be like Flo Joe's 200. That's what she wants. It might be like Coke's 400 meter record. Because something that like when you think about it, hey, I mean you can say well what you call them at 1050, 1054. Elaine Thompson ran 1054. Flo Jo ran 1049. Like ah, I mean she had everything perfect. I mean wasn't nobody close to Flo Jo when she, when she was ready that, those times. But you really, you really think, you think in the next year. Because I think Bobby is positioning her. He's going to position the committee. We'll do the four. Four because that's all there is left. Ain't really nothing left. She runs the hurdle. Can't nobody beat her unless, unless she hits a hurdle and falls down. But she's, but as far as just like, okay, there's a competition. Somebody line up. Femke bowl can't see her because Femke doesn't have the foot speed. I understand Femca. She's unbelievable and she can beat everybody else. But it's kind of like being in an era with Usain. There was some fast guys in Usain era. It just weren't Usain. There's some great hurdlers in Sydney's era. That's just not Sydney.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah, she's, she's, she's just a different breed. I mean I said next year's, next year's off year. We got ultimate championships. So I don't know what's in store for her. But I mean like I said, she, she definitely can just go after that whenever she wants to.

[Shannon Sharp]

So tell me, tell me what the ultimate championships is. So is that just the USAs because the world's like every odd year. So we had 25, we had the worlds. We're going to have the worlds again in 27 and then you got the Olympics in 28. So as an off year in 26. What's the ultimate championships? Explain that to us.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

So the ultimate championships is just some like new event that world athletics is, you know, having in September Instead of. It's kind of. It's kind of similar, like world Championships, but it's not, it's not exactly the same thing because, you know, usually you bring every country that qualified with the standard and all that world. The ultimate championship is like the best of the best. So I think you either go off a ranking or, you know, what you've done previously. And it's only two races, so semifinals and finals. Yeah. And the prize.

[Shannon Sharp]

So you can have something in the tank. You have something left in the tank. You ain't got to go all these four rounds.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah, I mean, honestly, me, personally, I was like, I, I, I wasn't sure if I wanted to do it for the next year, but then after what happened this year, I was like, yeah, I'm definitely motivated to go there, get that prize purse. Because the prize purse, I think, is like a 150k or 100k at least, which is something that.

[Shannon Sharp]

To win.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Damn. I might start training for something.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, Kenny. Matter of fact, matter of fact, we can. We can really solidify and, and kind of already put that money already in your pocket. If you allow me to be your training partner, because if you allow me to train on the side of you, I'm going to get you where you need to be.

[Shannon Sharp]

Man.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

You got to race me first before you trying to be my training partner.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You want, you want to race?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

You got to race me first if you want to. If you want to be my training partner.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

But listen, I don't want to take your confidence away, because that's what's going to happen if we race. So I'd rather you just allow me to come into camp and be a training partner. I could be, like, the master.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I allow you to come into the camp and be my training partner.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Right.

[Shannon Sharp]

First.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

First of all, you gotta go through my coach, Dennis. Dennis Mitchell. He's. I don't know.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, hold on. I beat Dennis running back in the day, so he really got no say, so.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, got a nice little group. Y' all got a nice little group down there at Gainesville. Where y' all train?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Out of Gainesville? Orlando?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

No, no, we. We're pretty much in Orlando.

[Shannon Sharp]

Okay. Jefferson, T.T. y' all got Kayla? Yeah, yeah.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

We got Coleman, Meek, Aaron Brown. We got Beastu. We got. We got a bunch of people. We got Kyrie as well. Courtney, Lindsay. I mean, every Brendan Hicklin, like, every freaking. Every freaking practice day just seems like it's a, It's a race. It's intense. I mean, you know, for me, in Particular, having those guys in the group has really helped me perform at a higher level.

[Shannon Sharp]

Well, damn, y'. All. So basically, the women's team is Team Dennis Mitchell. Cause everybody that's on the damn relay running. Jenny's Mitchell. And y' all got three or four guys that own him yet.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Hey, like I said, that's a hard work that we all put in.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, yeah, that's the hard work.

[Shannon Sharp]

If y' all don't come away with that gold medal, I'm gonna feel some type of way.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Hey, I told you, we got it. We got it.

[Shannon Sharp]

And I'll be on here talking. Hey, Kenny, I don't know if you'd be seeing it, but I'd be on here talking crazy to the Jamaicans, and they'd be something feeling some type of way. I didn't feel some type of way because they ain't got you saying no more. And it ain't no short thing, because we won the gold and silver in the hundred meters. I said, we repaid y'. All. We got to go. And we got the fastest woman in the world. Can't nobody see mj. Yeah. And we got the gold and the silver. And guess what? We was about to spank y' all in the relay, but we ain't got to worry about that now. We about to put something on you in the relay, but. But we got something for you. Yeah. When you say you were in shape, what's an idea? What's an ideal weight for you, Kenny? What? What are you weighing, 60, 65?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Oh, hell, no. I weigh way more than that. I'm 190 right now.

[Shannon Sharp]

I'm 190. What? Okay. Yeah.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

So you're not. You're not the first person that's ever underestimated my weight. I had a teammate of mine a couple years ago, he's like, what are you, 160? I said, no, I'm 185. And he's like, no way. I just think most of my. I have a lot of muscle, and I had. You've probably seen photos of me. Like, I don't have that much fat on me. I think most of my muscle is in my legs. I. I don't know. But, Yeah, I weigh 190, 192. I think last year was the heaviest I've ran at. And that's just gave me way more power.

[Shannon Sharp]

Well, see, I was thinking, like. I was thinking, like, Fred. I was thinking Fred Curly, because he's so tall that he's about 190. But I was like, once I was like somewhere between 60 and 70 for you. I didn't, I, I would have never guessed. You would, that, that, yeah, so what.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

When I came into the group originally in 20. 20, 2019, I was like 180 and I, you know, I was a 4:2 guy. But every single year, like I've been getting faster and stronger and. Yeah, I just, I guess was just, you know, getting older too. Just gained a lot more muscle.

[Shannon Sharp]

The muscle maturity and it just makes.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Honestly, it makes everything feel so much easier too. I mean sprinking mechanics and all that from the block starts to everything like it feels so much easier.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

How tall are you?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Six. Two.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay. Okay. Okay.

[Shannon Sharp]

Damn. Yeah, and, and that's another thing. I, I mean I, when I, when I, you know, looking at you on television, you know, television. Television normally ass size, but I was like, I, I would have never, I would have never guessed you are as big as you are as far as 6 to 190 pounds. That's big for 100 meter sprinter. You think so? Yes. Yeah.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah, I guess I'm different.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, I would, I would think it like, I mean like Coleman.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

What's Coleman like, height wise or weight wise?

[Shannon Sharp]

Well, height wise he can't be no more than five, six, five, seven.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharp]

I give, on a good day, I give him eight, but I'm thinking five seven.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I don't know how much he weighs. I would say maybe around like 160, 170. Yeah, the, that would make sense. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

That's why. But you feel, but you feel, but you feel the, you like you, you mentioned when you got, when you got the team, Mitch, you 180, but you feel the extra 10 pounds of muscle gave you the power to thrust out of the blocks and it gave you the, the, the top to be able to hold it in the 200 because you were 200 special. And a lot of time you see this 200 specialist. We saw Usain, who this 200 meter specialist drop down.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I think it was, I think also with me running the four, I pretty much ran the four my whole life. And then, you know, I ran 447 in college and then I went to Dennis Group and then after that he, he made me run the two and the one pretty much permanently. I think that was just, the endurance was just instilled in my body. You know, just growing up running long distance. I also used to run cross country as well. Used to run some eight. Yeah, so I ran cross country in elementary all the way to what, sixth, seventh grade. So I think once they got a little bit upper up in distance. I was like, yeah, this ain't for me. You know, I just. I just went into football and then just did track. Uh, but I think just doing that in my development stages, that just really helped me bring that endurance and just made everything easier. So, yeah, I would say 190, 190, 192. If I go any higher than, maybe I'll be a little too heavy. But right now, everything feels easy.

[Shannon Sharp]

You had a very unconventional route to where you became. You went to a community college. You didn't go to Texas or Tennessee or one of these powerhouse lsu, Texas A M. That's not the route that you took. How are you able to stay focused taking this route? Because, you know, most of the guys that, you know, you didn't turn. You didn't turn pro right out of high school.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I mean, I wasn't. I honestly, I wasn't that fast in high school, but I think just my mom, you know, just, you know, I was. I'm adopted as well, so, you know, being a young kid, being adopted at four, you know just how to work just to be where I was. I mean, she instilled good values in me every single day. I mean, she was a single mother adopting four kids. Like, she. She was kind of the blueprint for me just to work hard every single day. And, you know, I was recruited by all the top schools at one point, but I was one of those kids where it was kind of like, oh, I don't really care about school. Let me just have fun and do sports. Didn't realize. Didn't realize that, you know, hey, GPA matters when the schools want to come after you. I mean, I think that was the question. Where? Junior year, they're like, what's your gpa? I'm like, oh, shit. So then, you know, not my 40.

[Shannon Sharp]

It wasn't my 40s. Big time.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

You said, what was your 40 time?

[Shannon Sharp]

No, yours wasn't your 40 time because you had a 42 GPA. You'd have been Gucci. Yeah.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

So, you know, I had to go for a junior college in the middle of Iowa called Indian Hills. And, you know the program. Brand, brand, brand new program.

[Shannon Sharp]

Why? Yeah, War weather city to go run track. How you go to Iowa to run track?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I didn't think about stuff like that. I mean, I'm from Wisconsin, so I've already ran in the cold. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, I went to there for a year, did my thing, went pro, and, Yeah, I mean, Just being from an adopted kid, going into foster care, like, my whole life, the. The route just to get here was unconventional. And, you know, I. I give thanks to my mom on why I was able to, you know, be here where I am today and accomplish my dreams.

[Shannon Sharp]

So when it finally does happen, you beat Noah in the 200, you. I mean, what are you gonna do to celebrate? You're gonna have a beer? You're gonna have a piece of cake? I mean, what. What. What's gonna. Because, I mean, that's. I mean, have you ever beat Noah in the two?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I mean, I have, but I. It's the fact of, hey, I beat him while getting silver, and somebody else got me, you know, so.

[Shannon Sharp]

Oh, yeah, you beat him at the Liberty. You're right. You're right, you're right. Yeah, he got the bronze. Both.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

It's not really just about beating him. It's just about getting that gold medal because, you know, my first year at the Olympics in 2021 here at Tokyo, you know, I beat. I beat him, but then Andre De Grass got me. So it's the same with this, you know, it's the same with Paris beat him, but then Tobogo got me, you know, and like I said, that's why it's just kind of frustrating because I'm not focusing on just him. I'm focusing on just that gold medal because I know what I can do. But it always seems like there's something. And like I said, running. Running from lane eight. Not saying it's an excuse. It's just. It's just tough because you're on the island. You know, you got one person ahead of you, and you just got to make sure that. Be mentally strong and just think about yourself. You can't think about nobody else because you're out there running by yourself.

[Shannon Sharp]

You're running blind.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah, pretty much.

[Shannon Sharp]

But, I mean, you look at way Ben Nerd when he run when in two in Rio, he's in the farthest lane, and he knows he has Lashan and he had. What's the guy from.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I remember watching that. I don't remember his name, though.

[Shannon Sharp]

I just remember he went from Alabama. Oh, my goodness. I can't think of his name. But anyway, he knew they were back there, and he knew Those guys were sub 44 guys. Both had already won a gold medal in the 400. And he just took. He was the last qualifier, and he just took off and he ran 40. 40. I had no idea.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I remember watching that when I was a kid. I just, like, oh, he's gonna burn out. And he just kept running. I said, oh, my gosh.

[Shannon Sharp]

That was the thing he did. He didn't burn out.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah, he just kept going. And, I mean, honestly, that's the mentality I have when I get a lane draw, like eight, I'm just like, hey, I just gotta go all gas and just execute my race and see what happens.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, breaks.

[Shannon Sharp]

So after the, after the, the championships, how much time do you take off? Are you done for the rest of the year and just start? Because I don't think you do the indoor season. So now. Okay, so now when will you start back? Okay, you're not gonna let yourself say you, you, you say ideal shape is somewhere between 190 and 192. Well, if you're not working out, you might get up to 195, maybe even 200.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I don't even do that.

[Shannon Sharp]

You don't.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I don't gain weight. I don't gain weight like that. I usually. So usually we have a month and a half to two months, depending on what coach wants.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Right.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Sometimes I'll maybe take a week or two more, but what I do, you know, I do a lot of preventative stuff. So, you know, I give myself a week or two just to kind of do whatever I want to do. And then after that, I'm in the gym or with my physio, you know, just working on, like, strengthening small ligaments here and there because, you know, body's always compensating, especially when we're redlining every single time for the whole year for vacation, you know, I like to go to Thailand. Like last year or two years ago, I went to Sepu. Philippines. I always just like to travel, just see new things. You know, I'm out here in Tokyo right now, so once, you know, the relay is done with, I'm gonna stay here for extra three to four days, go sightseeing, because I, I, I'm not one to go out and about when we're, you know, in the midst of the, the meet and everything. And then after that, you know, I got to do some. Some stuff back home. And then I'm trying to figure out if I want to just go do a cruise. But, yeah, I, I just love to travel and just see the world.

[Shannon Sharp]

Ronnie James. That's his name. Karate James.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Grenade. Grenada.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Hey, he's still, he's still running, too.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yes. Went to the University of Alabama. He won the NCAA championships in the 400 meters.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Turned pro.

[Shannon Sharp]

Lashan Merritt won. I think lashan won in, in 08. He won in 12. Van Nerk won in, in 16. And fast Stevie. Yeah, Bahamas. But it, it's so, it's so hard. I mean, why is it so hard for 400 meters to repeat? Because if you go back and look at it, Michael Johnson is the only one to double up. No, no other man has ever won back to back 400 meter titles. One, why is it so hard for men to repeat the 400 meters?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I mean, you're seeing the times right now. There's always somebody that's coming up, coming into the fold. Somebody else is running 43 seconds, running 43 fives or whatever. You mean you got these Botswana kids like, yeah, Chippy.

[Shannon Sharp]

Chippy just ran 43,5. Where did he come from?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Hey, there's just a lot of talented people in the world and, you know, they just need the right coach and right program. So these kids are finally finding the right circumstances, the right system and all that. And they're ready to go. And they, you know, I mean, that's why it's hard. I mean, even look at this 200. I, I think this is the fastest 200 I've ever been in.

[Shannon Sharp]

It is, you know, you know, when.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Bolt was running what he. It was him, maybe one other person, and everybody else is not running that fast. Now we got four. Four or five guys are running under some 20.

[Shannon Sharp]

I think this is the most time, the most that we've had guys under, I think, what, 19, seven. You had four guys that run?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah. In one race?

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah. Sub 19 seven. We. We've never had that many run, so. And we had four. We had two guys on the 19 on the 19 six and we had two guys on the 19 seven. So we had four guys that run sub 19 seven, which is. Which, like you said, unheard of. I mean, you get. Go ahead.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Like I said, this shoes are getting better, surface are getting better, training programs are getting better. You're finding the right talents, like. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

And, and you getting the right. Because a lot of things have to go right. I was talking, we have MJ on Melissa and we were saying she had the right people in the race to go really fast. If she gets a, if she gets a plus one tailwind, she's going sub 10, six because she got Alfred in there, she got Tia Clayton, she got Tina Clayton. She got to lose Smith in there. So she has the people. You need the competition, you need a track and you need conditions. She had everything except the conditions. If she get a plus one, she's going to sub 10, six.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah, it's over with. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Melissa, she's been putting in so much work. I mean, from seeing her last year and to going to this year.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, she's got stronger.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

She got way stronger mechanics. Everything has gotten so much better. It's just awesome to see what she's done this year. And I definitely feel like, you know, she can repeat this. You know, it is, it is hard to do it, but she's one of those athletes that can repeat and be a double champion again.

[Shannon Sharp]

Man, I want, man, I mean, I Wish it was 20, 27. I wish we had the worlds and then next year was the 27. Because it's, I mean, to stay on, to stay on top, it's hard because like you said, you got, you got 200 countries and you got some 17, 18, 19, 20 year old that we ain't even heard of yet. And all of a sudden they pop up out of this.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

That's why it's important. You got to find the right people. I mean, for me, I invest so much in my body. I mean, you got people, you know, even with Tobogo, you, he, he was Olympic champ last year. This year he didn't come out with anything. And you know, there's just a lot of things that you need to do in order to stay on top. I mean, I got a physio, a massage therapist, chiropractor. You know, I invest in a lot of my body. I mean, I got a cold plunge, sauna at my house, red light therapy. Like, it's a, it's a lot of hard work.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

I mean, I'm looking at the, the women in the hurdles. Hell. Where did Kombucha come from?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

She's always been there.

[Shannon Sharp]

She. But I mean, look, look at what we got. We got Russell, we got Stark, we got all them. I'm like, damn.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah. I mean, the women's hurdle has always been tough. I mean, you go watch the Diamond League, there's always three or four of them in that race, so they never get a break.

[Shannon Sharp]

And it's hard. We don't. I don't know if we've ever had a repeat champion in the women's hurdle because you get one and then the next year, boom, here comes somebody else. And then here comes somebody else. I mean, you had Joanna Hayes and you had Don Harper, and then you, here come Brianna Rollins, and then you get Camacho.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I'm like, hey, that's what makes track. That's what makes tracks. Inciting. Because you don't Know what's gonna happen.

[Shannon Sharp]

Except that. Except when it came to the 100 meters back from 2008, 12 and 16, we knew. Oh, yeah, it was, it was. Who got a he. He show up? Who got second? Who. We get the silver? You already, you know.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah, he's just looking like, all right, who's gonna win?

[Shannon Sharp]

Did you. Did you ever get a chance to race against Bolt?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

N N. I'm too young. Way too young. So what? When he retired 2017, I didn't become a pro until 2020. 19. 2020.

[Shannon Sharp]

Oh, yeah, we used to be.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah, because I'm only. I'm only 26, so.

[Shannon Sharp]

Oh, you got some good years left. You, you, about you about you About a year and a half away from prime, so you should be real good by the time 28 roll around. It's in LA.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Hey, that's perfect.

[Shannon Sharp]

It's LA. Look, and, and, and they ain't coming back. Last time they was in LA was 1984, so. That home soil. We need some home cooking, Kenny. We need home cooking.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

That's the perfect time.

[Shannon Sharp]

Well, I'm expecting you out. All I know is I'm gonna be watching 20, 26 ultimate championships. Are they going to be normal races like they. Like they normally would be? You know what the Drake and. And the sack. So they're gonna be.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I would, I would say, yeah, you know, Drake, Drake Relays, I actually like going to that. But usually when they have that, I. I'm always overseas running somewhere. But yeah, they'll have that mount Sack, you know, still Diamond League, like all those things are going to be there. I still. We think. I still think we have our nationals as well, so that will be going on. So we have a full season of a lot of meets and everything else. So like I said, I. Time wise, I'm just focused on just. I'm focused on just executing my race next year. And time, goal wise, I got.

[Shannon Sharp]

What. What you looking at for at 100 meters? What are you. What, what's. What's. What's your goal? What's your goal for the 100? What's your goal for the 200?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

So how I felt this year and what I was doing at practice, you know, I was talking to my coach. I definitely could have ran nine seven mid or nine seven below. So I feel like next year if. If, you know, coach wants to do it with me, I feel like I want to go off to the American record for the 100 meters.

[Shannon Sharp]

968.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

It's 69.

[Shannon Sharp]

Well, you got to run 968.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Oh yeah, yeah. True.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah. Hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Have you been on. Have you been under nine, eight?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah, I went nine, nine seven nine at our trial. At our trials. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Do you understand how Kenny?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I understand it, but like I said.

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[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

With the shape that I'm in right now and the practices that I've had, like leading up to 100, and that's why it stung so much more for me when I didn't cross the finish line, even getting a medal because of my, you know, mishaps, right? I could have done something dangerous. And now I gotta wait two years, but I'm just like, hey, screw it, you know, coaches coach wants to do this next year. You know, that's one of the goals that I want to hit because I definitely feel like I'm capable of doing. I finally have a start that took about what, four, four years. I mean, my teammates were. Teammates were kicking my ass for four years straight in the blocks. It was so bad to where we were just like, hey, man, screw the blocks. Let me just do the workout right now and just roll y' all up. Like that's what I wanted because they were embarrassing me. But, you know, I. I feel great. And every rate, even even running the 985 in the semifinals, like that's the easiest 985 I ever ran, you know, no, no tensing up or anything. So I knew that the finals, I could have done something crazy. And then obviously you guys saw what happened, had a late reaction and Then.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, I'm like, well, damn, Kenny.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, that was a 200 meter reaction. Yeah.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Like I said, it just. I let it slip away and that's why it stung so much more, because I knew that I was in really good shape. So now I gotta wait.

[Shannon Sharp]

You. You ran 979. Where do you feel you can make up that kind of time? Because that's a lot of time. From 979 to 968. That ain't no step. That's more than a step or me. Where are you going to make up the time at. At the start? The transition? Deceleration.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

It's in the start. So usually when in. In the hundred, especially when I get up, you just stay relaxed and just hold on to what I build up. So for me, it's in the first, you know, 20, 30, 40 meters. If I can set up perfectly, then I can get it.

[Shannon Sharp]

Man, you train with Christian. Can't you get that start? Can't you let that rub off on you?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

It has actually. I mean, that's why my stuff. That's why my. That's why the start has actually been way better. I mean, the addition to having him also with the other teammates of mine, it just really helped. Like, something just clicked this year and then, hey, I finally got a start. And that just built confidence. And, you know, going to grand slam as well just really helped. I just really needed reps in the 100 because that was the biggest thing that I was lacking previous years. Like, I was like, hey, can I get in 100? And it's like, nah, you're a 200 guy. Let's run a 2. So I'm like, ah, damn, this is like my 10th 200 of the year. Let me get in 100. So this year really helped me out just to kind of understand the. The mechanics, you know, I think also just being older and just maturing as an athlete, actually understanding what my coach was trying to teach me the previous years, everything just started, just make sense, became way easier. And like I said, I. I'm confident that, you know, I can get around that area next year. But that's. That's what coach wants to do, if that's what coach wants to do. Because I know everything's about a plan, you know, you could go crazy next year, but then you got, you know, another world world championships in the Olympics. So, you know, if it's not part of his blueprint, then we'll see.

[Shannon Sharp]

How different is the training from 100? I would assume that 100 you're doing 150s and twos. So for two, are you doing two 50s, threes? How different is the training?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

It depends on the coach. For us in particular, we. If we're training for 200, you know, we do like two 50s, three hundreds, 150s, 120s, a lot of speed work. And then he's, he's. He's where he. He wants to hone, make us hone on the technical side of the, of the race. Because, like, okay, you can build. Build all this speed, but it don't mean anything if you're not technically, you know, sound. So when it comes to the 100, you know, 68s, 68s, 68s. Just a lot of 6,080s and then 120s. But I mean, it's working like every coach is different. You know, another coach can say something completely different. But that's what. We do a lot of sled training as well. We do a lot of 10, 80 stuff. Like we do. We do a bunch of stuff.

[Shannon Sharp]

Wow. And weight training plyos. A lot of snap, a lot of cleans, a lot of partial squats, a lot of box jumps. I mean, a lot of explosive stuff. Because you can't be explosive if you don't train. Explosive.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah, it's like stuff like that. I mean, you, you know, I can't give too much detail. You get mad at me.

[Shannon Sharp]

I got you. I got you, man. Kenny, thanks for your time, man. Appreciate it. Good luck tomorrow, bro. It's been a while since we had. We've been atop the podium on the global stage and the relay, man. Don't let us down, Kenny. Don't let us down.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Hey, I said we got you. We got a good squad. We've been practicing hard. We'll get it done.

[Shannon Sharp]

We'll be out here. Y' all hear that? Jamaicans, do y' all hear that? Don't be mad. Don't be mad. Cause we about to get both of them sweepstakes men and women, American flag. I gotta find me American flag tomorrow because I'm gonna be flying it. Hey, I've been suffering, but kid, I ain't gonna lie. I'm a worst winner.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

They hate you.

[Shannon Sharp]

They do, but they do. When y' all win this race tomorrow, I will give them something to hate. All right? I'm count on it. Kenny. Ben, Derek, Silver medalist in back to back Olympics and in the world championship. Kenny, congratulations. Good luck tomorrow. Come back and talk to us again soon, man. All right?

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Thank you. Thanks for having me on.

[Shannon Sharp]

Appreciate you, man. All right, bye. Ocho, do we got. We got graphics for this? We got a new game. Our newest games. Our newest segment is back. It's called Player Fade. It's is presented by prize picks and this is how it works. The Nightcap staff has made a slip of their picks, and we either play their slip or make some changes choosing more or less. See, I felt pretty good. I got two. Right tool was right. So let me see what we got here. Jordan Love. More. 1. 1.5 touchdown passes. Well, Lamar Jackson threw for like 12, so he gonna have at least two more.05. More. More. More. You like that? You like that, Ocho? Cause you cost me last time. Cause you told me James Cook was going to have. Oh, yeah, he going to have like 30 yards receiving and didn't.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Well, I mean, they didn't have to, but most of the time they tried to win money.

[Shannon Sharp]

You talking about they didn't have to?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I mean. No. Well, we don't know what the game plan is, but most of the time he catches the ball out the backfield as well. So I thought that that would have been a smart. That would have been a smart play.

[Shannon Sharp]

I'm. I'm betting money, okay? I'm trying to win money. I'm trying to get. I'm trying to win 5,900 that you owe me. So I'm trying to do stuff to get that.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Okay, Okay, I see, I see, I see, I see.

[Shannon Sharp]

How about this here, B. John Robinson, more than 110.5 rush yards and receiving yards combined against Carolina.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Absolutely. Come on now.

[Shannon Sharp]

Okay, say go more. Tyler Warren, 47 and a half receiving yards against Tennessee. That's the tight end from the Colts.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, listen, the way Danny Dimes is dishing, man, the way Danny Dimes dishing. What you think?

[Shannon Sharp]

Ah, I'm going to. I. Lord have mercy. Damn.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You ain't got no. You ain't got no confidence in 17 over there with the. With the horseshoe on the helmet.

[Shannon Sharp]

Okay? All right. All right. I'm gonna go. Okay.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Jake elliott. More than 1.5 field goal against the rate they're playing the Raiders. No, that's the Rams. Rams. Jake Kelly. That's the Eagles, right? One point. Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharp]

Eagle two two. Two. Two, two, two. I'm taking the staff slip, but I tell you what, y' all better be right on. The only one I'm really concerned about is TYLER Warren. The 47 and a half receiving yards. But I gotta go against you, Ocho. My gut tells me to go against you.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

One thing One thing you never do, never bet against the house.

[Shannon Sharp]

Oh, you the house now?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, I'm the house. Never bet against the house.

[Shannon Sharp]

Well, when the house gonna pay some money? My money. When the house go down, pay my buddy. Download the app today, use code Shannon to get 50 in lineups after you play your first five dollar lineups. So going out there and play, you know we're gonna win some money tomorrow. Ocho. Atlanta Falcons cup kicker Young Way cool. After seven years with the team, signed new starter Parker Romo to a two year deal and Arnold Cole. The fans have asked us to bring the viral clip with coach prime and the pronunciation of his name back. Y' all did be dirty Ocho.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, that was classic, bro. But y' all had me rolling, boy.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hey, listen, here's the clip. I don't think they can hear it. Young Ho Coup kicks the five win over the Saint. What?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

What's that?

[Shannon Sharp]

Young way. Young way. Young way. No, you ain't. What you said though. What I say? I say Young Hoku. No, you can't. That's not their name. What's his name? Who you talking about? The kicker for the family. Young. Young. Wait, don't try to tell me. You gotta stop that. Oh, but look, I was. Hold on. How is it spelled? How to spell young? How they spelling young? No, they. They don't spell it. Yo, like we spell it. They. I think they spell it. Why you. So how you know how to say that? And you know how to sell over? No, no, she. She. Oh, Ash Federal. Oh, cool way, bro.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You said.

[Shannon Sharp]

No, you said young Ho. That's what he said, didn't he? Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Okay. What is this spell? Y O U N G H O E. Who wrote that for you? Ain't nobody. There ain't nobody named nobody name. That is nobody's name. That is. That is nobody's real name and you gonna say it. That ain't nobody named. Oh, Joe. That. That is not nobody's name spelled like that. You know there ain't nobody name spelled like that. Actually, that is his name. That's the Willis that is pronounced young way. Why you say young way but it's failed? Because no, she put it on there as young way. But if you go look at it, it's Y O N G H O E. G H O E. Don't make that sound go. That makes it go. There you go. You got flashbacks. You got to stop that though, man. The Falcons defense and special teams make big plays and thrilling wins. No, I Know what you talking about. Two weeks ago.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

I a. I ain't know what you talking about.

[Shannon Sharp]

I a know what you talking about, dog. No, you did. No, you did.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, boy, that was classy.

[Shannon Sharp]

Edible who?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, that was classic, man.

[Shannon Sharp]

Now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, boy, that was classic, boy. That's one we gonna be able to listen to 10 years from now and still laugh the same way.

[Shannon Sharp]

Y' all got jokes, huh?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, that was fun.

[Shannon Sharp]

We'll have facts. Can we show Ocho skateboard video, please?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Well, that was from years ago. You saw that.

[Shannon Sharp]

You and that skateboard flew out from under your ass. I saw that.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, it was so long ago, but I could. I could. I could actually skate now. I compete. I compete. I'd be. I'd be at the. At the skate park and all night.

[Shannon Sharp]

Astro said, uncan, Ocho. When y' all weren't partying or outside in college, what do you guys do? Love the show. Much love.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Well, I ain't. I ain't party. I still.

[Shannon Sharp]

I went to one part. I went to one party in four years of college. I was in my room reading gq, thinking about what I was gonna be doing. And four years, five years, what my NFL career is going to look like. That's what I was doing.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharp]

Doing homework.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah. And honestly, for those that know me, those in the chat, if you follow me long enough, as long as I've been on social media, you know, I don't party. You know, I don't club. You know, I don't drink. Gaming, High school, gaming, College. I was gaming. Yeah. I just.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Probably clubbing. I don't drink. So therefore, I don't want to be around people that do drink. Because people that drink, they like to have conversations. They be talking about stuff. They start three conversations. I'm like.

[Shannon Sharp]

And I don't wanna. I ain't interested in none of them.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

In none of it. I just. Nah. And then the music be too loud. And then people step on your shoes and crowd. I don't. I don't like that.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah. I mean, obviously you couldn't party during the season. Cause you was in your room to have bear check at on Friday and then Saturday, the game. And so once the season was over, I mean, I got a girlfriend my junior year and senior year. So we went to the. Once the season was over, we'd go to the movies. You know, I had a little bread. Ocho, you know, I go off camper, you know, Give me a little room. Yeah, you know, I was. You know, bro, make sure I was straight. But I was not a party of my man Kevin Norwood Jr. Said, uh, I can't believe Ocho got an iPhone 17. Hold on. Ocho got a. Got an iPhone 17, but won't pay you $5,900 the next time you're in Dallas for a bottle cider. I'm coming to see Ocho who got an iPhone 17. You did. I did. Let me see, though. Hold your phone up. My phone.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I don't got no.

[Shannon Sharp]

Don'T you just bet. This man really do.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, let me tell you something. I was eligible for upgrade. I still had the iPhone 12.

[Shannon Sharp]

Oh, Joe.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I had the iPhone 12.

[Shannon Sharp]

So I need y' all to tell Chad what should I do to Ocho? Chad? Come on, Chad. Y' all keep on saying, man, let Ocho live. Ocho trying to get endorsement deal. What that gotta do with my 5,900?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Listen. You're not listening to me, Unc. I done had the iPhone 12 for the longest. So I was. I went to go pay my cell phone bill, and they told me about me being able to. Oh, you gotta upgrade. You haven't got a new phone in a long time. Like. Well, you mean I ain't got to pay nothing? So they say, yeah, if you pay your phone bill, you get. You could. You can switch. You can switch out the phone. So I ain't really pay none.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, you pay something. You gotta pay X amount. You get an upgrade, but you gotta pay for it.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

No, I had the iPhone 12. I went from the 12 to the 17. I didn't have to pay nothing.

[Shannon Sharp]

You gotta pay something.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, I had to pay my phone bill. My phone bill was like, $120.

[Shannon Sharp]

No. And you have to pay $100. Cause they put. So they put the new upgrade in your phone bill.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

No, no, no, no. That's not. That's not.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, extra 20, 30amonth. That's okay, Ocho. I mean, chat, chat, chat. As you start a poll, what should Unc do to Ocho after Ocho refuses to give him his money?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I'm not. I'm not refusing. I'm just. I'm just. I'm. I'm waiting for my money to get right.

[Shannon Sharp]

Hold on. You don't got LV tracksuit. You don't got a new iPhone. You don't got all this new stuff. You got a new house. You got all this stuff. Me?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I got you. I got you.

[Shannon Sharp]

Huh?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I got you.

[Shannon Sharp]

Serial P said, can we Get a shout out to Ocho's college quarterback Jay Smith and my daughter's Michigan State Spartans as we battle usc tonight at 11. Go green.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Wait, that game ain't start yet.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, it should have started.

[Kenny (Sprinter, likely Kenny Bednarek)]

Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Jonathan Smith, that's my high school quarterback.

[Shannon Sharp]

He coaching?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah. He the head coach at Michigan State.

[Shannon Sharp]

Is he?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, he left. He left Oregon State. Now he's at Michigan State.

[Shannon Sharp]

Well, I didn't know that. Congratulations, Ocho. Tony's green. Who goes O and 3? Who go 0 and 3 tomorrow? Who goes 1 and 2? 0 and 3? I guess you looking at the Chiefs.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Wait, who got.

[Shannon Sharp]

They've got. They play the Giants. Who else hasn't won a game yet?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Oh, it can get ugly for the Chiefs, boy. Oh, my goodness.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, you taking the Chiefs to go one and two or three?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Hey, honestly, I mean, my home's gonna figure it out. I don't see them going to 0 and 3. And if they go to 03, is it time to hit the panic button? I don't know. Do you hit the panic button with a quarterback like Mahomes and what he's done in the past? I don't. I don't know. I don't know. That's a good one. That's going to be. That might be the best game of the day. Honestly, that might be the best game of the day.

[Shannon Sharp]

Who else had won a game that we were suspecting to win a game?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Goddamn Colts. The Colts play tomorrow.

[Shannon Sharp]

Yeah, they play Tennessee.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That's who I want to see. I mean, Coach, Tennessee is really not an exciting game. That again, that people want to see. I want to see if God goddamn Daniel Jones is for real. Or is it a situation like Baker Mayfield or a situation like Sam Donald, you know, Sam Donald goes to Minnesota, all of a sudden all world. Baker Mayfield goes to Tampa Bay, all of a sudden all world. It's just the right situation. I want to see if the Indianapolis coach just happens to be the right situation for Daniel Jones.

[Shannon Sharp]

And it might be.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

That's what.

[Shannon Sharp]

Guess who else had that exact situation. Who? Anthony Richardson. That's that exact situation.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, you're right.

[Shannon Sharp]

And guess who you have that exact situation that J.J. mcCarthy got that Sam Donald. J.J. mcCarthy. Jason said, what's up, ugly nocho? My birthday is tomorrow. Can I get a shot of also go cave. Yes. Jason. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, twin Joy. Spending with family, friends and loved ones. Tell them you love them. Hopefully they tell you they love you and you got something real nice. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamin said, hey, fam. That shave by Laporte is so smooth. From now on, you should be known as the Cognac King. You're welcome. Thank you, Doc. I appreciate the support you've been supporting Nightcap Club. Shay, Shay and Laportier, all things 84. We appreciate that, Doc. Cause you've been one of the very first ones to follow Nightcap. You've been a mod for a long time. And every time Oo and I show up. Atlanta. You were here in Atlanta. You was here in. In. In. In. At New Orleans. You came to the very first one in Las Vegas. So, Doc, Oo and I, the Nightcap family, we can't thank you enough. We appreciate the support. Oo, yo, here's a skateboard video. This is Ocho on the skateboard.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

Yeah, this. This old. I forgot what year this was too.

[Shannon Sharp]

Huh? You see, I got.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

You see that? You see, I got my cigar in my mouth too. See, I can skate.

[Shannon Sharp]

No, you can't.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

No, I mean, no, no, I mean. I mean, I can skate for real. I mean, I can skate for real. I was just trying to ollie. I was trying to do some damn trick. And the cigar in my mouth is the reason why I failed.

[Shannon Sharp]

Wasn't that tricky, Ocho? Gosh. Why the birthday hit?

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I was good, though. I was good. I was good, though. I was good. But see, the funny thing that's about. That might be. That might be six, seven years old now. Now, you know, I ride at a skate park down here in downtown. Downtown Miami.

[Shannon Sharp]

Ocho. Six or seven years later, it still hurt. Yeah.

[Chad 'Ocho' Johnson]

I mean, yeah. Yeah, I'm good. I'm a real skater, though. I gotta do everything. Do everything.

[Shannon Sharp]

You a real something. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite unc. Shannon Sharp, my partner and co host, Liberty City's own madding ratings adjuster. He's a Ring of Fame honoree, a former Pro Bowler All Pro. He's Chad Oo Cinco Johnson. We want to thank our special guest for joining us to help break down college football. Texas A and M, great Heisman Trophy winning first round draft pick of the Cleveland Browns, Johnny Manzel. Thank you, Johnny. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed, wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support. Make sure you check out Shave by laportier if you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Go follow my media company page on all of its platforms. Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out, that link is also pinned in the chat. The Miami Hurricanes throttle The Florida Gators 26 to 7. Billy Meyer. Billy. Excuse me. Billy Napier is really, really on thin ice. He's going to have to get this thing turned around if he wants to stay head coach of the University of Florida. Yeah, I'm unk he's ocho Ready for tomorrow night? I'm ready for tomorrow night after Sunday Night Football.

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