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Dwight Howard
Yeah, it's pretty tough.
Chad Ochocinco
He trying to get Bryce, he trying.
Dwight Howard
To get Bryce to the league next.
Chad Ochocinco
So I'm, So you think LeBron's gonna play a couple. So you think this, not this upcoming year won't be LeBron's last year? No. Why?
Dwight Howard
If I can play till I'm 50, Bron. Play till you 50, man, keep pooping.
Shannon Sharpe
I think being able to make history and playing with both of your sons and that got to be one of the biggest accomplishments, one of the greatest achievements as a father. What a basketball player.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, it doesn't happen often. I mean, what we get to go back to is Ken Griffey Sr. And Ken Griffey Jr. Now we saw LeBron, LeBron Sr. LeBron Jr. And now, you know you have two sons in the, in the NBA. But I, I, for me, I'm looking at him, I, I don't think 23 seasons, I mean he's still averaging 24, 8 and 8. I think in order for LeBron to like, it's like, man, I'm out of here. He's gonna have to be somewhere around 19, 20, 24, 8 and 8. I mean, dude, the dude made the second team. All NBA don't know. Players don't normally retire. Dwight make it first, second or third team all the NBA and say, you know what, I might induce this and you got 52 million coming to you. Well, he just, he need to go back to Cleveland. If I'm Cleveland. But here's the thing, Dwight, he got a T shirt and y' all know how I feel about LeBron, but why would I trade my 20 something players for a 41 year old guy that's gonna only got maybe two years, maybe a year, two years left. He gonna put Cleveland back up there like they was everybody gonna be in Cleveland. And then he put it, you remember how he put him, he put him back up there and then when he left, he put him back down there. No, but he got, he gotta teach.
Dwight Howard
Donovan how to win. So he gotta teach him how to win. So I just believe he went home. Go ahead and show the boys how to win. Maybe win the title in Cleveland again.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, my gosh.
Dwight Howard
Yeah, he can go home. Let Luka have la, man. Let him get another big in there. Come on. So he can hoop and go ahead.
Chad Ochocinco
LeBron don't want to leave LA. You know how LeBron love LA. Oh, I. Yeah.
Dwight Howard
But.
Chad Ochocinco
Go ahead and let loose. Cooper flag reportedly made $28 million in nil while at Duke.
Dwight Howard
Stay in.
Chad Ochocinco
He may have a $13 million deal from New Balance and a $15 million deal with Fanatics.
Shannon Sharpe
Go back.
Dwight Howard
Go back for two more years into the stock. Go up in the league some more. Go back to college for three more. Two, three more years.
Chad Ochocinco
No, I tried to get. Cause because all he did was speed up that process to get to that $380 million bag. You see the money that you.
Dwight Howard
For his first contract, right?
Chad Ochocinco
No, I'm saying that first extension, the rookie extension that you can get, that thing gonna be over 200 million. All right?
Dwight Howard
So if he stay two more years, win at Duke, at least one championship, he gonna get at least a hundred ems off college. He go to the league, the salary cap gonna be higher for rookies. He gonna make 5 million.
Chad Ochocinco
I want to get. I want to get your money. I'm going to get this. I'm going to get this right now. I can go and get that. I made that 28 million. I'm good now. Let me come on and get this Gatorade money. Let me get this. Hey, somebody want me to do a podcast? I already got new. Oh, yeah, I'm f. To get this. I mean, he about. He about.
Dwight Howard
He gonna be a billionaire before he get finished his rookie contract.
Chad Ochocinco
All these guys you look at shake and sign four years at 294 this year. Or he can wait to go five for 380. All these guys gonna do a billion in contracts, man.
Dwight Howard
This is not real money, man. This is cryptocurrency. They playing around with us.
Chad Ochocinco
As a matter of fact, I'll take some of that too. Right now.
Dwight Howard
They playing. This ain't real money. They just talking. How the world they just come up with 500 M's and just give somebody. This is not real. We're in a simulation.
Shannon Sharpe
Hell.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey, Dwight. See, Dwight, you should have. You should have been born like 10 years later. You'd have been right here, right? Boom. What?
Dwight Howard
You right. I mean, not you, right? That's dang.
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, Yolk by yolk is in line 3 years 221.
Dwight Howard
3 years 221. He can go buy all the horses in the world if he want to erase them.
Shannon Sharpe
Go ahead. Go.
Chad Ochocinco
Dwight, we're gonna get you out of here on this one. Tell us more what you're doing with Sports Illustrated for the finals.
Dwight Howard
All right, so for the finals, we're having an SI Sports Illustrated event where we're going to predict the finals. We're going to be going against a lot of these. The influencers. It's going to be some hall of Famers versus the Influencers. And a lot of the Influencers and the youtubers and they feel like they know a lot about basketball and sports and stuff like that. So we're going to do an event against these guys. So what we going.
Chad Ochocinco
Are you guys picking Game to Game? Excuse me? Game to Game or you picking the series?
Dwight Howard
Game to game and the series.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay.
Dwight Howard
Yes.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay.
Dwight Howard
Yes. So, yeah, y' all be on the lookout for that, man. I want to tell y' all who I got tonight. You know, I've been looking out for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Make sure you guys catch the White Pod podcast. Above the rim with Dh12. Where can they find you on IG and Twitter?
Dwight Howard
I am at Dwight Howard. That's my. My ig. My Twitter is Dwight Howard, too.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay.
Dwight Howard
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Above the White House podcast. Above the rim with Dh12.
Dwight Howard
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco
Dwight, thank you, man. Appreciate it. Hey, before we go, how the farm doing? The farm, if you notice. But he got a farm. You know, he go organic. This organic. What do you got growing, Dwight?
Dwight Howard
All right, so at my house, I have. I grow at my house, too. So I have a big garland in my house. I have a squash, eggplant, bell peppers, tomatoes, apples, whole bunch of bullshit.
Chad Ochocinco
Excuse me.
Dwight Howard
That ain't no bullshit. That's some real stuff. I got watermelons, I got sunflowers, I got basil.
Chad Ochocinco
What the hell you doing going sunflower for? You don't eat no sunflower. All seeds.
Dwight Howard
I do, but. I do. This is all the stuff I have in my house. Me and my dad, we actually doing the chickens right now. Because, you know, they're having this egg shortage, so.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What type of cheese you got? Well, my dad. You got guineas. You got rolled out of red. You. What you got?
Dwight Howard
See, you know all the country names. All I know is chickens.
Chad Ochocinco
All I know is Ms. Winters and churches. You got Brutus, you got pulling for what you got. Dwight, what you got going on?
Dwight Howard
You gotta ask my dad the names, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Dwight Howard
He got the names.
Chad Ochocinco
I Just okay.
Dwight Howard
I like Pops, man. Make sure everything straight for you, boy.
Shannon Sharpe
So.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. All right, babe. Make sure you check out Dwight's podcast on YouTube. Above the Rim with DH follow him on IG and Twitter. Dwight, thank you for joining us, man. All the best of luck. Congratulations on getting selected to the hall of Fame, man. That's a big deal, man. Congrats.
Dwight Howard
Thank you. Thank you, guys. Man, Ocho, man, I appreciate y' all having me on the show. I love y' all, man. Triple salute, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Thank you.
Chad Ochocinco
All right. Appreciate you, Dwight.
Shannon Sharpe
All right.
Chad Ochocinco
Ocho. We ought to see. We gotta see who can grow a garden. I bet I can grow a garden better than you, Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
Grow who?
Chad Ochocinco
I can grow a garden better than Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, I. I doubt that because I used to. I used to plant. I used to plant my. My, My grandma tulips back in the day. I used to paint a tulips. I used to paint. I used to do a. Tomatoes.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm gonna let you slide with that one. No, Joe.
Shannon Sharpe
What?
Chad Ochocinco
Them tulips. But. Okay, I ain't gonna sit down with y' all. Let it slide.
Shannon Sharpe
I.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, I just. That's what. I'm just gonna let that slide. That's. I'm gonna let you have that one.
Shannon Sharpe
I said, listen, I know we talk about gardening, but you said garden. But I used to be her. I was. I used to be her gardener. I was her assistant in her garden. You know, my grandma, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Ocho, I still. I'm trying to find this. This picture because I had a. I don't know if I can find it now.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I mean, where's that picture? Hey, I. Listen, I used to grow a lot. I used to grow a lot. I used to grow carrots.
Chad Ochocinco
I, I, I don't want no garden.
Shannon Sharpe
Watermelon.
Chad Ochocinco
I gotta tell you what I grow. I'll go peanuts. I grow sweet potatoes. Yes. Why look at it. Hey, check this out. I'm gonna send it to Ash.
Shannon Sharpe
I like that garden idea.
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey.
Chad Ochocinco
What.
Shannon Sharpe
You know what I should do? I should start me a guard, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, Lord have mercy. Why get this guy? Any ideas what you think?
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, nah. Listen. I want to be a young. I want to be a content creator. You heard me? Yeah, but I'm not talking about regular content. I'm talking about, like, like content where it's like, like, almost life and death shit. Like, there's a chance I can, I can. It could be my last time filming content if things don't go right. Like, I want to be that Type of content creator.
Chad Ochocinco
Go ahead.
Shannon Sharpe
Because nobody had. Listen, everybody's creating content. You know, it's funny. They playing around with people. Like, I'm gonna do like. Like, different stuff. Like. Like bull fighting. Like, with. No. With. No. With no swords or.
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, you can't do that.
Shannon Sharpe
What?
Chad Ochocinco
Peter. Eat you up. People don't like that. They want. They want that sport bad.
Shannon Sharpe
No, I just said without.
Chad Ochocinco
They don't like bull fighting.
Shannon Sharpe
Just the matador. Yeah, I'm just a matador with no. With no weapon.
Chad Ochocinco
I got that from my grand. Her name Granny. From my grandma's funeral.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey.
Chad Ochocinco
Fifteen years I had it.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey.
Chad Ochocinco
Huh? No. Yes. In Atlanta in my tub. You don't take a bath there, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
I know. I know what I'm getting ready to do. I'm what you read do. I'm gonna be. I'm a starter. I'm gonna be a content creator. Right in the first. My first video is going to be me with a herd of bison at Yellowstone Park. Running with the bison.
Chad Ochocinco
You can't run with the bison. They advise you to be without. They will put you in jail.
Shannon Sharpe
That's why it's called content. I bail out, you bail me out.
Chad Ochocinco
Don't do that, Ocho. It ain't worth it. You can create content. Look. Look at them streamers. They create content and only put it live in danger.
Shannon Sharpe
That's not life. I want to create life or death content where I could get hurt, like, really, really bad. Like, it makes it. It put him.
Chad Ochocinco
Go talk to somebody girl in Miami.
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, I don't know.
Chad Ochocinco
You don't really want that. You don't really want no content.
Shannon Sharpe
Then I want. I want. No, I want. I want. I want life and death situations. Content. Creating with nature.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, like that.
Chad Ochocinco
Well, you think I. Hey, okay. I wish you the best.
Shannon Sharpe
Appreciate that.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm. And create some content. Something a little. A little less dangerous. Cowboys head coach Brian Schottenheimer says Dak is still in developmental phase. I think Dak is in the developmental phase, and that sounds crazy for a guy who's played as much, but there are things we're tweaking with Dak. Dak is entering his 10th NFL season. Okay, what you think it. Ocho?
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, I'm. I'm trying to understand developmental phase. At what point in year 10 is something developmental at this point? Especially when it says, wait, it's not the same offense. It's the same offense from last year, if I'm not mistaken. Right?
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, I guess he's gonna implement his. Because that was Mike McCarthy's offense.
Shannon Sharpe
If that's the case, then he is in the developmental stage because he happened to learn a new offense. All the. All the new nuances and all the intricacies of that new offense. So I totally understand. I mean, that gives me better context. So I mean, that's understandable. That's understandable. I'm excited for that, man. I'm excited for that. I just hope they ready to. I just hope they ready to use. Use. Pick the right way. CD Lamb is gonna get his regardless, especially when he plays in the slot. He's. When he. When CD Lamb is in a slot, it creates mismatches regards to who they're playing. It doesn't matter who they're planning. And we know a pigment can do on the outside. He could take a short and go hit his head off the goal post or he can go deep.
Chad Ochocinco
Well, yeah, you gotta. I mean, look, they should be really explosive in the passing game. We're gonna see. Can they protect it? Cause, you know, you lose. I mean, Zach Martin is retired. The offensive line was, wasn't. It was kind of shaky last year, Ocho. So let's see what they. What. How have they shored up that. The running game? Blue had some really good games, so it's gonna be. It's gonna be. It's gonna be very interesting to see what the Cowboys are offensively as far as protection.
Shannon Sharpe
Look.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, you could have all. All the guys you want, but you don't protect your quarterback, ain't gonna do you no good at all. At all.
Shannon Sharpe
That goes for the Cowboys. That goes for my Bengals. That goes for the goddamn Chiefs down there in Kansas City. Yeah, and who else? Well, hell, the Eagles don't got nothing to worry about for a long time.
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, the Eagles got the best offensive line of football, though.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they got the best defensive line of football, too.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, but. But I'm looking at. I mean, you think about it, look at the right tackle and the left tackle. You got Lane Johnson and my Lotta. You got your center. You replace it with Jason Kelsey and you replace Jason Kelce and that guy, he's a damn near all Pro, but he goes to the Pro bowl and you look at Dixon, one of your best guards. I mean, so they good. They set for. For the foreseeable future at the, at the. At the offensive line position. Should Dak be embarrassed that Brian Schottenheimer said that he's in the developmental state phase?
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely not. Because if you learn a new offense, it's completely different. And you have to rewire and relearn everything, even though you played the game for 10 years. So saying he's in a developmental stage at this time, where they're in ota, it's acceptable. Acceptable, because that's what it is. It's a time for you to develop and learn everything that comes with that off. Because it's going to be completely different than what you learned before.
Chad Ochocinco
Espn. Jeremy Fowler reports that Kyle Pitts would be open to a trade even though he's not necessarily looking to be moved and the Falcons aren't aggressively shopping him. So I checked with a source who said that, look, if Atlanta gets the right kind of deal for Kyle Pitts, it could very well could come together. This is not a situation where he's requesting a trade, but if he has a chance to go maybe to a better offense where he's more featured, he's sort of a third or fourth wheel right now in Atlanta. Could this and could be something that he's open to.
Shannon Sharpe
I like it. And he wouldn't be a third or fourth wheel if he hadn't gotten hurt. You have to understand, after the acl, he has. He hasn't been the same cow pits we saw at Florida. He just hasn't. And if, if you watch him close, there's a. There's a slight limp when he, when he, when he runs, there's a slight limp. You can tell exactly which knee. You know, he. He tore his acl. Uh, it's unfortunate. As great as he is, he's still very good. Now that he's recovered somewhat from that, from that injury, I would like to see him in a different offense where he can be featured more.
Chad Ochocinco
Well, yeah, yeah, I think that's.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, where that would be. I'm not sure that's the problem. That's the, that's the problem.
Chad Ochocinco
I think he'd be great in Kansas City.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, that's nasty. A player like Kyle Pitts of his caliber before he got injured. If he hadn't got injured. We always talk about Hawkinson and laporta Bride. Yeah, Bowers, listen, he was eons above everyone. I just named eons above. The only thing that set him back was that injury. Huh. I don't understand how special he is. How many of those dudes I just named can go up, go line up out there, receiver and run?
Chad Ochocinco
And a whole lot of them, I mean, you know, hey, they're versatile now, but this guy had move, he had wiggle, like you said, he could run the route, he could run the slant. He could run an aisle. He run a comeback dig end cuts. So yeah, he was. He was special and but now he's two years removed from that acl. Now he's in his fifth year, isn't he? Or is his fourth year. I think he's in his first year.
Shannon Sharpe
It should be four. I think it's year four for Kyle if I'm not mistaken. We gonna be. You gonna be all right though?
Chad Ochocinco
Good. He said this is fifth year. Fourth year because. Because I don't think they picked up his fifth year option.
Shannon Sharpe
Look, that's a little motivation right there. It is a little motivation.
Chad Ochocinco
1, 2, 3, 4, 5. It's his fifth year.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey listen. And I hope Michael Pennington Jr knows they didn't pick up that fifth year option and throwing the ball every play on purpose so he have a hell of a year so we can get paid in off season.
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Chad Ochocinco
Ocho what's that? Falcons undrafted free agent Kobe Bryant spelled C O B E E. Kobe Bryant went after Lamar Jackson on Snapchat. Take a look at the picture.
Shannon Sharpe
Is that Harden?
Chad Ochocinco
Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
Man, what Buddy doing?
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, great regular season, not so much in the postseason.
Shannon Sharpe
That's the rookie did that.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Undrafted free agent.
Shannon Sharpe
What's up with Buddy?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, don't say that.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, that might be something personal. Maybe that's something personal we don't know about, huh?
Chad Ochocinco
Bro, Bro, I don't know. Look, you already know. I only know one Kobe Bryant, rest his soul.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco
And he they spelled it like the state. So I don't know this young man and he might turn out to be a phenomenal player, but I hope he does.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco
But it's a little early for you to be to make talking this kind of noise now. You need to be pat certain. You need to be Jay Ram. You need to be one of them big dogs, Stingley Jr. Okay, you want to take a shot? Okay, you gonna get. Come on now.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, hold on, hold on. He got my attention now. He got Kobe Bryant, huh?
Chad Ochocinco
Bro, you ain't gonna be paying no attention. We got bigger fish to be worried about this here.
Shannon Sharpe
Hold on, hold on. But no, we got bigger fist. But if you take shots like this, right? You got that, boy. So now, now you got. Now you got my attention. So I'm trying to see what you like on that field?
Chad Ochocinco
Well, hey, I sure hope they play the Ravens so we can find out. Hold on.
Shannon Sharpe
What position he play?
Chad Ochocinco
Your corner. Right. Woo.
Shannon Sharpe
He a quarter.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. This man put James Harden head on Lamar Jackson body with the number and everything.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Who he play for? Huh?
Chad Ochocinco
The Hawks. I mean, the Falcons.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, the schedule out. Do the Ravens play the Falcons this year?
Chad Ochocinco
I don't know. Do the Falcons play the Ravens?
Shannon Sharpe
I'm a call my dog. I'm going to call AJ Terrell and ask AJ Terrell if Kobe Bryant really liked that. Yeah, I got to watch some film on young Bull. You know, normally when you talk like this or, you know, you throw a little shade, that mean you like that.
Chad Ochocinco
Man, that's a big old oak tree. That ain't no little shade. Yeah, I don't know what he was thinking with this one right here.
Shannon Sharpe
Listen, now you.
Chad Ochocinco
You.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, you know what he was thinking.
Chad Ochocinco
You know, people try. People try to figure out why he did it. Hell, I don't know.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know either. That's why the first thing I said is maybe this is something personal that we don't know about.
Chad Ochocinco
Well, he should go to Lamar because.
Shannon Sharpe
Most of them, Most of the time, when you're young like that, coming into the NFL, you always respect your elders, especially the great ones like that.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, how about I been told you, man, them jokes ain't had no.
Shannon Sharpe
No respect.
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, not like it.
Shannon Sharpe
That's why. That's.
Chad Ochocinco
I guarantee, man, I would have never. I don't know. It's just hard. But go ahead. I'll be. Look, that's that. Hey, look, we love the First Amendment. He has a right to say whatever he wants to say. But hey, bro, you have to go out there and back that up now.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah. So now you put. Now you put the pressure on yourself. Not too hard.
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, right now you got an alligator mouth now. Don't let. Don't have no hummingbird ass.
Shannon Sharpe
My pin and pad at now gotta use that.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, they play the Ravens. They play the Ravens next year. Nah, Lamar beat up. Forgot about that. They need to get this thing over. They need to get this going now. Hey, they say, hey. Lamar probably say, hey, Harbaugh, y' all put this. Put them on the preseason schedule, and I play it. L. Jack said I'm playing. Hey, man, Lamar probably. Hey, you know, one of Lamar boys or somebody probably sent it to him, say, hey, dog, what's up with old boy? Yeah, Lamar probably like, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Who?
Chad Ochocinco
Look what old boy.
Shannon Sharpe
Look what I Sent you one thing by eight. He don't talk. He ain't even finna respond. He ain't finna answer.
Chad Ochocinco
No, I know, but I'm saying he like. He probably like, what?
Dwight Howard
Who?
Chad Ochocinco
What? Who?
Shannon Sharpe
Who? Yeah, who.
Chad Ochocinco
Who is this?
Shannon Sharpe
I just. I told you what he's trying to do. Huh?
Chad Ochocinco
Get.
Shannon Sharpe
Get your name out there. You do something. You do something. You ain't got no business no different than that. That reporter. That reporter with Katie, right?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Just listen. Throw your name out there, Throw the bait, throw the fish. Everybody gonna bite. Okay, Boom. That has now the cameras on me now.
Chad Ochocinco
I guess he was. I guess he was at Kansas last year, Ocho, huh? He was at Kansas. He could play college ball at Kansas last year.
Shannon Sharpe
He was nice. He was like that.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't know. What did Travis do? Well, I mean, he was undrafted, so, I mean, I don't know if he has decent speed. I don't know.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, chat, chat. Kobe Bryant like that. Let me know now. Let me know. Let me know.
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, I need to have a Keeb's number. I call a Keeb, Taliba or Chris Harris Jr. And ask them. They went to Kansas, they would know more.
Shannon Sharpe
Wait, they J. Hoax?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Wait, how Khalid get out of. He didn't go to Texas.
Chad Ochocinco
Key with. With the Kansas. So did Chris Harris Jr. Oh, Chris.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Okay, okay.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what. I don't know what old boy was thinking about. I don't know what to prompt him. Cause Lamar don't really do no talking. I mean, every once. I've seen. I've probably seen Lamar at more at, like, fashion events, chilling, as opposed to sitting doing anything else. I know. I think. I don't know if he still has it. I know he used to have his camp, his football camp. Lamar lays really, really low.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, he crazy low, bruh.
Chad Ochocinco
So I don't know what prompted Buddy to do this.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know. I'm telling you, it's something personal. I'm telling you. We just don't know about it because nobody takes it.
Chad Ochocinco
Where he from? Is he from Florida?
Shannon Sharpe
He ain't eat from the crib.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm asking Ash. Ash is looking for it now. I don't know where. I don't know where he from. Evergreen, Alabama. I don't think they had no dealings, Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, listen, I know he must be like that. That's all I know. Anytime you take a shot like that, that high, you got to be able to back it up with your plate. So I know he must. He got to be that boy.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I know. Yeah. No, I don't know about all that, Ojo. I mean, we'll see. Oh, look, I'm not making light of him being an undrafted free agent, because all I'm saying, you give me a helmet and shoulder pads and then I'll show you what I'm capable of doing.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Yep.
Chad Ochocinco
I look at it like that. For all that other stuff, I don't get calling. Well, he was this, he was that. I don't know, Chad. I don't know. I wish I knew. Maybe chat. Y' all can chime in the chat and say, well, he said Lamar said something about this or he been going at Lamar for a minute. I don't know. So I don't. I don't want to speculate, getting a conjecture or innuendo. All I know is that it seems from where I'm sitting.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't know how OO feel, but it seems like from where I'm sitting, he took an unprompted shot at Lamar.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
And everybody knows what. What that means. That means that, hey, James Harden sensational in the regular season become post season, not so much.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Hey, now you. Now you got that. You got that target now.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Every.
Shannon Sharpe
Every. Every time you at seven yards, every time you impress now, this is going to come up. So you, you know, you got. Well, you got to come to play, bro.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah. Fast, for sure. Well, you have to play anyway. But look, because there are a lot of guys. There are a lot of guys in this league that have the utmost respect for Lamar.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
All of them. And so when you, Everybody, you take. When you take a shot at him, they're like, bro, this man don't bother nobody. And a lot of people, you know, there's some that feel like, man, he should have been a three time mvp, they robbed him of that. So they, like I said, like, I don't know the kid, so I wish him the best. But hey, he talking like that, he. He might. He might be like that. Don't.
Jenny Garth
Yo.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I bet we gonna find out. I know one thing. I know who he is now. So all I want to see is if the memes and the jokes match up with the play. Because it got to be. It got to be balanced. It can't be one or the other. It got to be. Got to make sense.
Chad Ochocinco
It absolutely has to make sense.
Shannon Sharpe
And especially with a name like Kobe Bryant, even though it's football, you got. You got to represent.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah. I Don't know. I don't know if I'd have. Hey, they named him Kobe Bryant, obviously. I mean, there have been a lot. But I mean, there are a lot of Kobe's. Yeah, there's a lot of Kobe's. Yeah. Since that Kobe that burst onto the scene at Lower Meridian in Philly and drafted by the. The Hornets and traded to the Lakers.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
CBS Sports ranked the 12 NFL teams most likely to win their first super bowl this season. Number one is the Bills. Number two are the Lions. Number three are the Bengals. Number four, the Texans. 5, Chargers, 6, Vikes, 7, Cardinals, 8, Jags, 9, Falcons, 10, Titans, 11. Panthers, 12, Browns. You like the order?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I mean, the. The order is. Is understandable. Simply. I. I see we're at. We're at four and they have the lines in front of us, I think because we start so goddamn slow. We start so slow. And when we're. We're climbing towards the end of the season, scrambling, trying to get ourselves out of hole where we haven't even got a chance to consistently, consistently be in the talks of being in contention and playoff contention each and every year, winning the division and taking care of business early in the season. So we don't have anything to worry about. Now, all the team that were mentioned take care of business every single effing year and our least in contention and have a chance when it comes to playoffs. Lions, the Bills. Who's the. Who's the. Who the. Is it. Who's the third team I'm missing?
Chad Ochocinco
Bills, Lions, Bengals, Texans, Chargers, Vikings.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, we were Cardinals, Jack.
Chad Ochocinco
Huh?
Shannon Sharpe
We were the third team. Yes. Okay, okay, okay.
Chad Ochocinco
We good.
Shannon Sharpe
But we're third because of what I just said, though. That damn slow start, man. Damn. We gotta fix that, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Well, y' all didn't fix it soon enough, so I' ma need that.
Shannon Sharpe
Need what?
Chad Ochocinco
My daddy ruckus. You don't mind handing it over to me, do you?
Shannon Sharpe
You talking to me?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I'm talking to you.
Shannon Sharpe
Wait, hold on. You say you need your. Your daddy's records, boy. What that mean? I ain't never heard that before. That's some old. That's some country.
Chad Ochocinco
My money.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, hey, what you call it? Your daddy's records. That's some new.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I wore my daddy records.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, I like that. That's a nice slang right there, boy.
Chad Ochocinco
Can I get that on your aid?
Shannon Sharpe
I'm a. You know what? Do me a favor. Do me a favor.
Chad Ochocinco
What's that?
Shannon Sharpe
You got PayPal, Zelle Apple, Pay, Cash App, Venmo, all you have to do right now. I would let the chat see me. I want the chat to see me send you your money. I send it right now. If you download.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm gonna get. I'll tell you what, I'm gonna get Shelly. I'm gonna get Shelly's. I think Shelly got PayPal.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, there we go. Okay. Okay. Finally. There we go. We got somewhere. There we go.
Chad Ochocinco
Boston sports talk radio host and former New England Patriots quarterback Scott Zolak says it's possible that the Pats could release Stefon Diggs before he ever plays it down for the team. Speaking on 98 to 5 Sports Hub, Zolak said the following about the potential of the Patriots cutting digs. I came to this show yesterday with the opinion. With. With the opinion. Not an opinion, but the knowledge that is on the table that is being thought of. And it's just not the boat. It's just not the boat. There are some other things that I've heard that put some things into question. Are you all in here? He's Ocho. This is what he said. I came to this show yesterday with the opinion. Not an opinion, but the. But the knowledge that it is on the table.
Shannon Sharpe
A whole bunch of nothing. That's what I say.
Chad Ochocinco
Ocho. But, you know, when you go to places like New England, you know, Ocho, you know how you got to move? You can't move like you can. I know it's the off season, but you can't move like you were there. As a matter of fact, I don't even want to talk about it. Talk about when you was there.
Shannon Sharpe
Hold on, hold on. Bill Belichick ain't there no more.
Chad Ochocinco
It's the same system.
Shannon Sharpe
Bill Belichick.
Chad Ochocinco
Let me ask you who. Let me ask you a question.
Shannon Sharpe
Mike Vrabel doesn't work with a hard hand the way Bill does. Now we talk about a players coach. Now you got Mike in there. It's a different ball game.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm sure he doesn't run that motherfucker like a military system. Hey, Chad. Hey, Young. I swear for God, my right hand to God, if anybody in the chat has seen the movie Full Metal Jacket. If you see Full Metal Jacket. I know you saw Full Metal Jacket, right?
Chad Ochocinco
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
Remember the beginning of the movie?
Chad Ochocinco
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
I've never been to the army, never been to the Navy, never been a Marine. But the way the drill sergeant was in that movie is what it felt like. The structure, the discipline, where everything had to be right. The cursing, it didn't matter who you was who you were. Everybody was expendable. That's how Bill. That's the kind of ship. Type of ship Bill ran.
Chad Ochocinco
This is what Mike Rabel said. He wasn't happy with the video either. It's something we're aware of, and obviously we want to make great decisions on and off the field. Any conversation that I've had with Stephon will remain between him and I and the club. So I'm going to ask you again. Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
If it was no big deal, do you believe the head coach would have said what he said, but he didn't have a chance? Any conversation we may or may not have will remain.
Shannon Sharpe
He had no choice but to say something because everybody made a big deal of the goddamn thing.
Chad Ochocinco
No, no, no, no. I don't worry about what the fans say. I ain't got nothing to do with that. I run the club now. I want to run it.
Shannon Sharpe
You have to, because that's the. That's the era we're in. We're in a social media era. So if there's a video.
Chad Ochocinco
Did Bill Belichick ever respond? Now, there were things going on in.
Shannon Sharpe
Tennessee he didn't respond to. They're two completely different coaches.
Chad Ochocinco
There are different coaches, but where do you think he learned how to coach? What do you think you learn from what you're around?
Shannon Sharpe
I have a question. Everybody on the relationship that want to be a head coach, how do they do?
Chad Ochocinco
I'm not saying they. I'm not saying nobody's been able to.
Shannon Sharpe
Do or emulate or come at what he's done in business.
Chad Ochocinco
But here's the thing. You want to have as few of distractions. Teams that have few distractions, those are the teams that normally win. Not saying always, because the cowboys of the 90s, they were so talented. They had distractions and won regardless. But the question. Look here, for Scott Zolak to say what he said, he said, this is not an opinion.
Shannon Sharpe
Who is Scott Zolak?
Chad Ochocinco
He calls play by play. He does color for the Patriots.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Okay.
Chad Ochocinco
He was there when you was there.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. All right.
Chad Ochocinco
He said this is not. He said with the opinion. Not an opinion, but the knowledge that it is on the table. Now, why would he have said that if it's not the case?
Shannon Sharpe
They say a lot of things. They said they say a lot of things.
Chad Ochocinco
So you think he make. He making this up?
Shannon Sharpe
No, I just take it with a grain of salt.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Can I ask you a question?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Who's the best receiver in that wide receiver room right now?
Chad Ochocinco
That Ain't how they do it in New England. It's the Patriot Way.
Shannon Sharpe
It ain't. You don't even have the players to have the Patriot Way anymore. You can't move. Number 12 is gone.
Chad Ochocinco
Ray Lewis is not there. Terrell Suggs and Reed are not in Baltimore. You play like a Raven. The standard is the standard.
Shannon Sharpe
You have a Lamar Jackson, the standard. Tom Brady.
Chad Ochocinco
Lamar Jackson did not fit the culture in Baltimore. I don't care how great Lamar is. Lamar Jackson did not fit the culture for what's in Baltimore. That was long established way before Lamar Jackson set foot in Baltimore.
Shannon Sharpe
Wait, I'm talking about. I'm talking about from a skill set, Drake, man.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm talking about the culture in which you do things, Ocho. The military. First of all, it's not people that go to the military. The state. It's been established the military run. Regardless of who's there. You set the standard. You do things a certain way. I'm not. Listen, I don't really know Stephon Diggs. I know he's a phenomenal receiver. I know he's coming off an injury, and I do believe he can help the Patriots.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he's the best receiver there. What do you mean, believe?
Chad Ochocinco
Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
One grand.
Chad Ochocinco
Ocho, was he the best receiver in Buffalo?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
And they let him go. He was one of the best receivers.
Shannon Sharpe
In Houston, but Nico Collins was that boy. Nico Collins. Damn near top five, but go ahead.
Chad Ochocinco
Let me ask you a question. Was Tyreek Hill the best receiver in Kansas City?
Shannon Sharpe
Hell, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Was Randy Moss the best receiver in Minnesota, in Oakland, in New England? Was the best receiver in San Francisco? Was he the best receiver in Philly? Was he the best receiver in Dallas?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
You see where I'm going with this?
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, I see you going. Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
But also. Also, everybody doesn't have to move like a goddamn robot. It's the off season. He's on a boat. Okay? No. Everybody don't want to fucking live like that, okay? That's fucking boring. Ocho, he's on the ground having fun with women.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't. Ocho, you. You. You killing the messenger.
Shannon Sharpe
No, I'm. No, wait a minute. Stay with me. You talk.
Chad Ochocinco
Listen.
Shannon Sharpe
Listen to me. Stay with me real quick. When you fight, you operate in a different manner. You stay with me. I love you to death. You operate in a different manner? Yes, for New England, they have a certain way to do things. Everybody's not living life born like a fucking robot. Everybody operate that way.
Chad Ochocinco
But here's the thing.
Shannon Sharpe
He did nothing he's on a boat. That's it.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, Joe, listen.
Shannon Sharpe
They talk about. He knows he's being filmed. So whatever he's passing out is not what people are saying it is. I'm sure he told Rabel that it was hard.
Chad Ochocinco
Ojo. All I'm saying is, is that. Excuse me. In certain situations, you have to move accordingly. I understand that. In the off season, that should be my free time, right? But you just have to, you know, you have to move a certain way.
Shannon Sharpe
I got you. I'm with you.
Chad Ochocinco
That's all I'm saying.
Shannon Sharpe
With you. I'm with you. But listen, listen. We're in a different time. We're at a different time. Players are a little different. Unc, you ain't going nowhere. You know my cheap ass ain't going nowhere. I've been in Miami all my life. I've been on the boat one time in 2000, and I threw up. I ain't been on the boat since.
Chad Ochocinco
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
So, I mean, just. I'm just looking at it from a different landscape. Not defending Stephon Diggs at all. I'm just looking at it from a different standpoint of, well, damn, these boys can't even live their life. Cameras everywhere. You really can't do nothing. You can't go where?
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, but, you know, it was like that in New England. Ocho. Cause guess who's still there? Mr. Kraft.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah?
Chad Ochocinco
You think he's on board? You think he's on board with this? You know how he is.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Listen, they. They had one year, right? Yes, they gave. They fired. What's the name? After. After. Come on, what's his name?
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, Gerard Mayo.
Shannon Sharpe
Jerod Mayo. They gave him one year, you know, Friday. So now Bray was there. We want to turn things around fast as possible, get all the pieces around a quarterback and Drake May, who played very well last year and they wanted to make another leap this year, giving them all the right pieces and players that make his job easier. Stephen Diggs is one of those players that makes his job easier in that, in that wide receiver room. Veteran presence, very good receiver, one of the better rock runners of the league despite ACL injury. Hell, he won the better rock runners in the league with One motherfucking leg. Excuse me for cursing, but I understand what happened. Steph probably won't have this issue again. Probably won't be on these boats again. Probably won't be around cameras again. But he still. It's the same life he's always lived. This is. This has always been him. I'm sure, you know, I know him personally. And just what we saw isn't what it was. I believe that.
Chad Ochocinco
I just think the thing is that you have to understand where, like, okay, maybe they allowed you to do that in Buffalo, allowed you to do that in Houston, but you know, when you go to New England, right, they operate on a different set of rules. They do, and they really do because Mr. Crab, you know, he likes as little distraction as possible. Even though Coach Belichick, the Patriots, I guarantee you, they still got to sign up. Say, even Coach Belichick is gone. Absolutely. Tom Brady is gone. They probably still got a thing up that says the Patriot way. Just like the Ravens have a play like a Raven.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, absolutely.
Chad Ochocinco
That culture was established a long time ago. And the thing is, is that what helped Baltimore is, as you mentioned, Lamar came in and he bought into that culture. Play to a standard. I play it. All that other stuff don't even matter. Yeah, I play to the coach. I play it like a Raven. The Ray Lewis's and the Rod Woodsons and the Terrell Suggs and Ed Reed myself when I was there. There's a standard in which you play to. And it helps when you don't have a Ray Lewis and all those guys there, but you still have a Lamar.
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
Chad Ochocinco
And so Lamar's job is make sure the guys that hopefully he has another decade that he treads like, look, guys, I'm not going to be here forever, but there's a tradition here, and your job is to uphold that. So, yeah, it's just a different time now, Ocho. It's different. Yeah, it is. Really, really different.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it's so funny. I'm not gonna go there. I'm not gonna go there. But we talk about, you know what? I ain't gonna do it because we talk about the Patriots. And you know what? I'm gonna leave it alone.
Chad Ochocinco
Brad Holmes, he's the general manager of the alliance, right? Takes reporters to task over past criticism. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
I like this. I like this.
Brad Holmes
When you look back at those picks and those picks were not welcomed by many in this room, you know, Dave, you want us to pick quarterback? You didn't want us to pick Penne Sewell. You know, people didn't want us to wait till the fourth round to draft a wide receiver, but every single move was intentional. I think y' all would expect me to be accountable when I'm up here, when things don't go right. You would expect me to be accountable. When you heard so much negativity about our draft, and then when I said, look, wait till they start playing football, it'll be appreciative. When they started playing football and people started giving them credit, the negativity kind of just everybody forgot about it. I give. I give probably two people credit in this room that said, you know what? I was wrong.
Shannon Sharpe
I like that. I like that. I like the fact that he can sit up there and actually do that and let the media know that you guys don't know the game like I do. I know what I'm doing when I'm in that war room. I've studied you guys might have been. Y' all might be a part of the media. You might be analysts. You might understand the game, but you don't know it as well as I do. That's why I'm in the position I'm in now. Picking and choosing what our team needs, what our needs are, what players best fit our system. And he hasn't missed yet.
Chad Ochocinco
Yo. Made the trade for Jericho.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know what effing reporter complained.
Chad Ochocinco
About Panay Sewell getting drafted because they wanted him to take. They wanted him to take Chase.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, okay. Ooh, Understandable. But listen, you didn't miss with Jameson Williamson and Amon Ross St. Brown. Now, it ain't a prime winner, but you still got some dogs.
Chad Ochocinco
You got Brian Branch.
Shannon Sharpe
You got Jameer Gibbs.
Chad Ochocinco
Don't you got into arms Arnold there.
Shannon Sharpe
Carry on, Terry. On Arnold. Yeah, he's nice. He nice.
Chad Ochocinco
You got him.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, we get my dog to stop holding and use his feet a little bit more.
Chad Ochocinco
You got Hutchinson.
Shannon Sharpe
He's gonna be all right.
Chad Ochocinco
You got Hutchinson up, dog. Because here's the thing. When guys miss. Oh, you could have had this guy. You could have had that guy. They're quick to write that in the paper. We'll write that in the paper. How good Brad Holmes has been with.
Shannon Sharpe
His draft selection, and he hasn't missed. Hey, I have a question. Was he there when they drafted? Is it not Arnett? There's another. There's another. There's another DB that I really like from Ohio State that went that day. I think he got drafted to. To.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, you Talk about, hey, I. I.
Shannon Sharpe
Really liked him in college.
Chad Ochocinco
What's the guy's name? He went to Atlanta. He was like. Yeah, I know. You're talking about Okuda.
Shannon Sharpe
Jeff. Okuda.
Chad Ochocinco
No, Jeff. Okuda.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I like the young bull. Where's Jeff Okuda now? Anybody. Anybody in the chat know where Jeff is now? I really like.
Chad Ochocinco
I really like it. I think he owns, like, his third or 14.
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, it's only like year 13. Year four, year three or four for him.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I like. I like him, man. Hey, that goddamn Brian Branch.
Chad Ochocinco
Was. What team is he on now? Because he got traded. I think they traded him. Yeah, but where is he? Yeah, he got drafted to Detroit, though. He got drafted to Detroit. He was in Atlanta. He was in Houston. Now he's on Minnesota. I said, he's on his third or 14 now.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn. Yeah, I wonder why. I don't.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't wanna. Yeah, I don't know what you was talking about. Like. Yeah, he's not there. No, he's on his third.
Shannon Sharpe
I know he's not there. I'm just. I'm just saying.
Chad Ochocinco
No, I'm saying. But I knew he was on his third or fourth team.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, okay, okay, okay, ok.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I like him. I like. I like Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
OBJ said he never wanted to leave the Giants. I never, ever wanted to leave New York Giants. The reason you heard me talking about what I was going on was because I was pissed. Because where I come from in college, if we lost one game, our season was over. This was the organization I got drafted to. They believed in me. So if the Giants went and won the Super Bowl, I would be happy. But deep down inside, I wanted to be the one. No question. So it's definitely. You'll always hold that. But then someone like me went. The Rams won the super bowl, but still, you just won't bat. Odell has bounced around between five teams since joining the NFL in 2014.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, man. Odell, man, was.
Chad Ochocinco
You don't realize, Ocho. You and I both. I played on two teams. You played on two teams.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
You don't realize how good you got it. You. Everybody always thinks it's better somewhere else. And I can. I'm gonna have so many more catches, and I'm gonna have so many more yards, and I'm gonna have so many more to downs.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
And everything that you need is right where you are.
Shannon Sharpe
Y. You know what? But he was in a situation where he didn't want to leave. He didn't want to leave, huh? He, he was, he was perfect. He was perfect in New York.
Chad Ochocinco
Well, you have to. You have to. Oo. You can't say, I don't want to leave this job and I conduct myself in a manner which they're going to get rid of me. Oo. Damn.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, you're right. Right. Listen, don't, don't, don't scream at me.
Chad Ochocinco
But I'm saying. No, but I'm saying he said he didn't want to leave. But do you. I mean, Odell could have conducted himself in a way and they wouldn't have put him in a. He put him. He backed him in a corner.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, you right, you right. A unbelievable team.
Chad Ochocinco
Odell's first four years was as electrifying as you gonna see any receiver.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
You go back and look at his numbers. You look at the amount of yards, the amount of touchdowns, the highlight plays. He was sensational.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Box office, baby.
Chad Ochocinco
And he was tailor made for that because of his personality. He's in New York.
Shannon Sharpe
Perfect.
Chad Ochocinco
Why would you. Bro. He could have been Michael Strahan. He could have been Gina. I mean, he had. I mean, he had New York eating out the palm of his hand.
Shannon Sharpe
And that's the, that's the perfect scenario. But you know, it's funny, I think if for, for Odell, if I think he's able to reflect and look back on it now, he would probably change the way.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Shannon Sharpe
Wait, not the way he acted on, on the. Not on the field. I'm talking about on the field. Maybe some of the stuff on the sideline. Maybe some of the stuff that we didn't. I think he'll change some of that. But what he did for sure, what he did on the field, oh, my.
Chad Ochocinco
Goodness, no, he was special. He was special.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, listen, I said it not too long ago. I remember we had some shows a while ago. I say, well, he might have been the first $200 million receiver, and this was before they even got to the money they get into now. That's how special in box office he was. Well, that's what he was trending towards.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, my goodness, man.
Chad Ochocinco
He. I just. That's what I mean. I hate that.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Because he. I promise you, he gonna kick himself because he knows he never should have left the Giants. He knows it. I mean, what. He wasted two years in Cleveland, here in Baltimore, year in Miami. The Rams was a great pickup for him. He had a quarterback to get him the ball. He had an offensive coordinator that knew how to get him, the ball. He had Cooper Cup. That was playing phenomenal. So when they double cup, he's working one on one. You remember the game he had against Tampa because they was trying to double Cooper cup. He goes for 100. Cooper cup, still get his hundred. He was playing well in the championship game against the 49ers. Played well in the Super Bowl. Caught the first touchdown, tore his knee up. That's the second time he had torn that knee up.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
And then all of a. You know, he broke his ankle. I think he broke his ankle. There's only so much. There's only so much twitch you got in your body. Only so much twitch you got Ocho. There's only so much you got. He was phenomenal. I mean, his hands, his route, running his. He played a lot bigger than his stature.
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely. Hey, when he run after the catch, I was just. I was just getting ready. Hey, what is it about every goddamn LSU and Alabama receiver? They are phenomenal with the ball in their hands.
Chad Ochocinco
Phenomenal.
Shannon Sharpe
Jettas, chase, Brian Thomas Jr. Julio Jones, Jerry, Judy, Malik.
Chad Ochocinco
Neighbors elite man, because each one teach one. They go back and they teach, you know, Julio, and you got Calvin Ridley, and you got Amari Cooper, and you got. You got Waddle, and you got devontae, and you got, you know, you got Judy.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it's one thing to be able to run routes, but then they got the other half.
Chad Ochocinco
All of them can run. Roddy White says Kyle Shanahan told him he'd rather throw the ball to Jacob Tammy than Roddy. With the game on the line, Shanahan told Roddy he wasn't a top four option on the 2015 team.
Shannon Sharpe
Man, Shanahan lying like crazy, man. We talking about Roddy White. Boy, not just anybody. We talk about Roddy White. But I wore 84. Huh? As a Atlanta legend. To me. A play I used to watch you talk about. Right. Stop playing.
Chad Ochocinco
Damn, Julio.
Shannon Sharpe
Had he said that for real?
Chad Ochocinco
I don't know. That's what. That's what Roddy White said. Hell, I wasn't there.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, Roddy, don't.
Chad Ochocinco
Julio had 203 targets. He had 136 catches, 1871 yards, eight touchdowns. Jacob Tammy had 81 targets, 59 catches, 657 yards, one touchdown. Devonte Freeman. He had 97 targets, 73 catches, 578 yards, three touchdowns. Roddy White had 70 targets, 43 catches, 506 yards, 11.8 yards per catch, one touchdown.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, what, was this, his last year or something?
Chad Ochocinco
I think it was his last year. In Atlanta.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, well, that I would see why the numbers look like that. Yeah, I see what I look, I see.
Chad Ochocinco
I know something about. I know something about Cal. I've known him since he was a kid.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Played for his dad. He has a lot of dad. He got a guy like Julio was his guy.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Hope Julio gets a blow because that's when the ball gonna come your way. Oh, he gonna feed. Oh, his number one receiver gonna get fat.
Shannon Sharpe
He's gonna feed him, huh?
Chad Ochocinco
That's the way the west coast system work.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Most definitely.
Chad Ochocinco
Look at Jerry. Look at Tio in that sister. Look at my brother in that system.
Shannon Sharpe
And look at. Look at Cooper Cup, Triple Crown year. Look at drafting Puka Nakua. Okay. Boom. Same thing.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Go back and look at Green Bay when it was Antonio Freeman and all those that West.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, hey, Green. Green Bay still run west coast, but it's by committee now.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
We're gonna have a goddamn day.
Chad Ochocinco
Well, that's what. That's what Jacoby said. That's what Jacob said. We need a dog. You need one guy that you can throw the ball to and he gonna. Hey, he gonna go get it. But like I, you know, you asked me. I don't know. I don't know. All right, Ocho. Now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. I enjoyed that football.
Shannon Sharpe
Got me all excited. What?
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, last half of August and all of September. October, November, December, January, February, March. What? True. Infamous 73 Halliburton shower curtain. All is certain. Thunder and fire. Triple X comes Saturday. Knicks, Audi A6 Databricks got that laportier ready to mix pacers in six. Red Hood says Knicks have a coaching problem. You can't win with Cat and Brunson. They need a defender type superstar that both to ball dominant and suck at defense. They did not play their best game tonight. You got 22 from Cat 8 to 19, 04 from the 3. You got 24 from OG 10 of 18. Mikhail Bridges only took nine shots. He had 15 points. The turnovers, that defense wasn't good tonight. No, the defense let him down tonight. They shot 54%. The Pacer shot 54% from the floor. They shot 52% from the three. You let a team shoot 50 and they shoot 30 and you let them shoot. They shot 33 and they make 17 of them.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
You're probably going to lose. And you know they want to run. They run make or miss. And now you turn the ball over. So they're out again. Look at the disparity. Look at the disparity in this game on points off turnovers. Right? Look at the points and points in transition. It's hard to win like that when you lose on both of those. Adam Smith says OKC finna sweep Pacers. Pacers have depth, but they have no bigs to contain Chet and Hartenstein. Pacers haven't had. Pacers also haven't played. A team with wings like okc. I'll agree with OKC is going to take Halle away with Caruso and Dort straight blowout. B. What did they split the series? What was the series this year?
Shannon Sharpe
I heard explanations like that. I heard explanations like that all during the playoffs on how the Pacer was going to lose all the games. And here we go with another explanation about how they gonna lose again. If I was a gambling man.
Chad Ochocinco
You gambling man. You taking the. You taking the paces?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Yeah. I. I don't. Yeah. For some reason. Shoot, I might. Matter of fact, I might go. I'm go put a little hot, hot hundred dollars on it.
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They had to play this yes. Yeah okay, okay. Oklahoma City won both matchups. JC huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Seven game series, regular season, playoffs. Completely different atmosphere, different type of pressure.
Chad Ochocinco
JC J J JC Jers Dwight how forever legend and good to see you on nightcap. Wish you had back in NBA, but thank you for all you've given the game. Peace and Love, Kevin Norwood Jr. Said Ocho, my question is what is the matchup you're looking for during the football season? Mine is week four Bengals versus the Broncos.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, listen, you know what I'm looking for? I'm looking is Roby is Roby gonna have his ass out there on T. Higgins again?
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, all I know is Patan locked that thing down.
Shannon Sharpe
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Listen, I love Pat P. I love, I love, I love P2. I love him to death. But I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell you what Uno finna do. Uno gonna take it to church. It's a reason they have NFL games on Sunday.
Chad Ochocinco
The man didn't give up. The man didn't give up but 120 yards all year.
Shannon Sharpe
Let's listen to me week four you week four there's a recent NFL games are on Sunday in the congregation and Chase is finna be the preacher and Patrick.
Chad Ochocinco
PS2, he.
Shannon Sharpe
That dude, he finna pay his ties. Hey, he finna pay. He finna pay his ties.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Huh?
Chad Ochocinco
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Come on, man. Come on now. Football season, baby.
Chad Ochocinco
PJP11 said. What do you think about the city with a team hosting two bowl versus the same cities getting recycled? Atlanta, New Orleans, Louisiana, Arizona. No disrespect these seasons, but I'm sure they're nice. But let others get some shine. Look, I think the thing is that the weather is normally nice in la. The weather is normally nice in Arizona. The weather is normally nice in this place. In Vegas.
Shannon Sharpe
Vegas, Miami, San Fran.
Chad Ochocinco
New Orleans is hosting more Super Bowls than anybody because they had the dome. Atlanta's go back to get another one. Are they going to Atlanta in what, 29? I think they're going back to Atlanta in 29, Ocho. Maybe sooner.
Shannon Sharpe
Hold on, hold on. Is San Francisco this year? Where's.
Chad Ochocinco
Atlanta? 28. Okay, you go in San Francisco, Louisiana. Atlanta.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Okay. That's going to be nice.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. And plus, you got to realize they got brand new stadiums. Atlanta got a brand new stadium so far. Brand new. And plus the weather, because it's not for. I mean, people bringing these sponsors, they're bringing their families, they want to go to the beach, they want to lay out. I mean, they had the soup bowl in New York and they had a blizzard that week.
Shannon Sharpe
Not smart. Hey, listen, from an economic standpoint, it was good. It was good for New York.
Chad Ochocinco
And they had super bowl in Minnesota. Really? Ocho?
Shannon Sharpe
I remember that year. I remember that.
Chad Ochocinco
What you gonna tell. I want you to tell me. What activities are you going to do in Minnesota?
Shannon Sharpe
Snowboard, ice skate.
Chad Ochocinco
Most of the time, the wives and the families, they want to go out and they don't want to put on winter coats.
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely not.
Chad Ochocinco
Go. James 84. Ocho. Is Odell a Hall of Famer?
Shannon Sharpe
He talking to you? Huh?
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, he said Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, he said UNC and Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, well, you go ahead. Is he hall of Famer?
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know. I don't know. You got the jacket. You know the requirements. I made my jacket.
Chad Ochocinco
He did it a couple more years. That if he could have. If he could have put together a couple of seasons in Cleveland, he could have put the couple of seasons somewhere else. You think about what could have been, Ocho? Yeah, what could have been? Unfortunately, I don't think Odell's gonna make it. Brian Nagash. Ocho, what are your thoughts on psg, UCL final victory and who you got upcoming nations League finals.
Shannon Sharpe
The PSG game was really good. I was surprised. I was surprised. I didn't. I knew they would. I. I knew they would win. I didn't know they would win by this margin. It was. It was. It was almost. It was embarrassing. I. I felt. I felt bad for the Italian. The Italians. I felt bad for Inter Milan fans, the. The players. I'm not sure. Nobody. No, nobody showed up. Nobody showed up to play. It looked like they didn't even belong on the pitch. You know, they were. They were tired. I. I don't. I don't know what it was. Most of the time, especially in soccer, you know, momentum. The momentum shifts. At no point in this game did it look like, okay, now the momentum and the advantage is in Inter Milan's half or in their hands. Like, the whole game, PSG dominated. So United Nations. I'm not. I'm not sure.
Chad Ochocinco
Dr. Frankie on Bellamy. Hey, fam. Ocho. What type of content creator are you leaning towards? More like Mr. Beast, Casa Knott or Ashton Hall? Love, y' all.
Shannon Sharpe
No, not like Mr. Beast because he does nothing that is. Is endangering his life. Kaiser Knot is having fun, you know, doing. No, not like that. And no type of conker like swimming with sharks with no cage, riding a bull.
Chad Ochocinco
Nobody's gonna give you insurance.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm not asking for insurance. I'm creating content. Hey, and if. If I happen to go doing one of. I'm going out on my sword creating content. So the type of content creator I'm trying to be is. That'd be the name of my show. Life or Death. Yeah, I like that. I like that. Life or death. Hey, can somebody please explain to me what type of WI fi or camera, Kai Snot and all the other streamers from AMP or whatever. Whatever it is that they use where they walk around, they. They drive places, and the WI fi is perfect. What the hell are they using? Everything is clear. Just. Just whatever. Just send me a DM on Instagram.
Chad Ochocinco
Where your microphone.
Shannon Sharpe
What microphone?
Chad Ochocinco
Exactly.
Shannon Sharpe
See, you mean my microphone for. Oh, you talk about my mic mic.
Chad Ochocinco
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The Indiana Pacers are going to the NBA Finals thanks to a 125, 108 victory over the New York Knicks. They win the series in six games, seven players in double figures, led by Pascal Siakam, who was named Larry Bird Most Valuable Player given to the Eastern Conference winner. Pascal Siakam had 31 points, Nisma 10 points, Miles Turner had 11, Nemhardt had 14. Tyrese Halliburton, who finished second in the Larry Bird Award, 21 points, 13 assists, six rebounds. Obi Toppin had 18 points and TB Thomas Bryant three or five from the floor, three or four from the three point line. 11 points, 11 big points. They will face the Oklahoma City Thunder on Thursday. Right? The game kicks off Thursday, June 5th. The game kicks off June 5th. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know me, I'm your favorite uncle Shannon Sharp, my partner and co host, Liberty City's own Bingo Ring of Fame honoree, Pro Bowler All Pro. That's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. And we want to thank our special guest, newly elected hall of Fame member Dwight Howard, who's an eight time All Star, eight time all NBA and three time Defensive Player of the Year for stopping by when you get some time. D. Howard, stop by again. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And guys, go subscribe to the nightclub podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We want to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support. Thanks to you Teddy Bear Teddy. Thanks to you. All of this. You make all of this possible. Your ears, your eyes and your word of mouth. Thank you. We could not have done it without you. Please make sure you check out Shay by La Portier. We do have it in stock and if you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. The best tasting VSOP Premium Cognac on the market. We beat em all. Try it for yourself and let me know what you think. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Go follow my media company page on all of his platforms. Shay Shay Media and my clothing company. 84 with 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat. Supplies are limited and once they're gone, they're gone. So please grab yours while supplies last. Again. The Indiana Pacers are the Beast of the East. They win the Eastern Conference 125. 108 over the Knicks win the series four two. Tyrese Halliburton was sensational again. 11 points in the fourth quarter as he and Pascal Siakam lead the Pacers past the Knicks. We're off tomorrow. We're back on Monday. I'm unk he's Ocho. Thank you guys for joining us. We'll see you on Monday.
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Club Shay Shay: Nightcap - Hour 2 Summary
Episode Overview
In this episode of Club Shay Shay, host Shannon Sharpe, alongside co-hosts Ryan Clark (Chad Ochocinco) and Dwight Howard, delves into pressing topics in both the NBA and NFL. The discussion focuses on Danny Green's recent comments questioning the Los Angeles Lakers' future, Dak Prescott's ongoing development in his tenth NFL season, and broader analyses of player performances and team strategies. The conversation is enriched with insights from former athletes, offering listeners a comprehensive look into current sports dynamics.
Discussion Points: Danny Green recently questioned the Los Angeles Lakers' trajectory, particularly emphasizing concerns about relying heavily on LeBron James in an attempt to build around Luka Dončić.
Notable Quotes:
Danny Green (by Chad Ochocinco, [02:00]):
"I think they're explosive offensively, but I think they lack a lot defensively. It's just really hard to win a championship when your best player is 40 years old."
Chad Ochocinco on LeBron James ([03:08]):
"Why would I trade my 20-something players for a 41-year-old guy that's gonna only got maybe two years left?"
Analysis: Chad Ochocinco expresses skepticism about the Lakers' reliance on LeBron James, questioning the sustainability of such a strategy given LeBron's age and the team's defensive shortcomings. Dwight Howard concurs, suggesting that the Lakers might benefit more from focusing on younger talent like Luka Dončić to secure future championships.
Discussion Points: The conversation shifts to Dak Prescott, with co-hosts analyzing his performance and the Dallas Cowboys' strategies under head coach Brian Schottenheimer.
Notable Quotes:
Brian Schottenheimer on Dak Prescott ([14:28]):
"Dak is entering his 10th NFL season. There are things we're tweaking with Dak."
Shannon Sharpe on Prescott's Developmental Phase ([15:03]):
"If you learn a new offense, it's completely different. Saying he's in a developmental stage at this time is acceptable."
Analysis: Shannon Sharpe provides context to Brian Schottenheimer's statement about Dak Prescott being in a developmental phase, attributing it to the quarterback adapting to a new offensive system. The hosts discuss the Cowboys' offensive strengths, particularly CD Lamb's ability to create mismatches in the slot, while also expressing concerns about the team's protection schemes and overall offensive line performance.
Discussion Points: The hosts explore rumors surrounding Kyle Pitts of the Atlanta Falcons, questioning his potential trade and fit within the current team structure.
Notable Quotes:
Chad Ochocinco on Kyle Pitts ([17:18]):
"He hasn't been the same since the ACL injury. I'd like to see him in a different offense where he can be featured more."
Shannon Sharpe on Pitts' Injury Impact ([18:21]):
"If you watch him close, there's a slight limp when he runs. He tore his ACL. It's unfortunate, but he's still very good."
Analysis: Both co-hosts agree that Kyle Pitts' performance has been hindered by his ACL injury, leading to his diminished role as a primary receiver within the Falcons. They discuss the possibility of Pitts being open to a trade to a team with a more offensive-focused system, where his talents could be better utilized.
Discussion Points: Shannon Sharpe shares his aspirations to become a content creator, focusing on high-risk, high-reward scenarios to generate engaging content. The conversation also touches on co-hosts' personal interests, such as gardening and Dwight Howard's upcoming projects.
Notable Quotes:
Shannon Sharpe on Content Creation ([12:16]):
"I want to be a content creator where it's almost life and death. It could be my last time filming content if things don't go right."
Dwight Howard on Upcoming Events ([07:38]):
"We're having an SI Sports Illustrated event where we're going to predict the finals against influencers."
Analysis: Shannon Sharpe expresses a desire to create daring and potentially dangerous content, aiming to stand out from typical content creators. Dwight Howard discusses his collaboration with Sports Illustrated, where he plans to engage in predictive events against influencers, blending sports analysis with interactive entertainment.
Discussion Points: The hosts examine the career trajectory of Odell Beckham Jr., exploring his frequent team changes and the impact of his conduct on his professional stability.
Notable Quotes:
Chad Ochocinco on Odell Beckham Jr. ([54:43]):
"He was tailor-made for New York because of his personality. But I promise you, he's gonna kick himself because he knows he never should have left the Giants."
Shannon Sharpe on Odell's Performance ([55:38]):
"What he did on the field was phenomenal. His route-running, hands, he played a lot bigger than his stature."
Analysis: Chad Ochocinco criticizes Odell Beckham Jr.'s decision to leave the New York Giants, suggesting that his demeanor and performance were best suited to that environment. Conversely, Shannon Sharpe acknowledges Odell's exceptional skills but implies that off-field behaviors have hindered his career progression and stability within the NFL.
Discussion Points: The conversation shifts to team management decisions, particularly focusing on the Dallas Cowboys' draft picks and general manager Brad Holmes' strategies.
Notable Quotes:
Brad Holmes on Draft Decisions ([50:36]):
"Every single move was intentional. When things don't go right, you would expect me to be accountable."
Shannon Sharpe on Holmes' Performance ([51:08]):
"Picking and choosing what our team needs, what our needs are, what players best fit our system. And he hasn't missed yet."
Analysis: Brad Holmes defends his draft choices against initial criticism, asserting that his decisions are strategic and aligned with the team's long-term goals. Shannon Sharpe praises Holmes for his effective selection of players that fit the Cowboys' system, highlighting the positive outcomes of those choices despite early skepticism from analysts and media.
Discussion Points: As the episode concludes, the hosts briefly touch upon upcoming sports events, including the Indiana Pacers' championship run and predictions for future games.
Notable Quotes:
Chad Ochocinco on Pacers' Success ([74:47]):
"The Indiana Pacers are the Beast of the East. They win the Eastern Conference 125-108 over the Knicks."
Shannon Sharpe on Upcoming NFL Games ([67:50]):
"I'm looking for Roby to be active again on T. Higgins."
Analysis: The hosts express excitement over the Indiana Pacers securing the Eastern Conference title and discuss key performances that led to their success. Additionally, they speculate on player performances in upcoming NFL games, emphasizing the importance of reliable receivers and strong defensive plays in determining game outcomes.
This episode of Club Shay Shay provides a thorough analysis of current NBA and NFL topics, blending expert opinions with engaging dialogue. From scrutinizing the strategic decisions of major teams to examining individual player performances and career choices, Shannon Sharpe and his co-hosts offer listeners valuable insights into the ever-evolving landscape of professional sports.
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