Nightcap Hour 2: Unc and Ocho react to McCaffrey having a bounce back season

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 2: Unc and Ocho React to McCaffrey Having a Bounce Back Season
Release Date: July 14, 2025
Hosts: Unc and Ocho

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Introduction to the NFL Season and Schedule Expansion

The episode kicks off with Unc and Ocho delving into the potential expansion of the NFL regular season from 17 to 18 games, a topic sparked by Patrick Mahomes' recent comments.

Ocho ([00:06]):
"Patrick Mahomes said he's not a big fan of potentially expanding to NFL regular season to 18 games. I would say more games, a little bit more taxes on the guys that play the game."

They discuss the implications of increased games on player health and the necessity of adding more bye weeks to mitigate injury risks.

Unc ([01:01]):
"You already know once. Once it's. It's talked about, they're going to do it."

Player Contracts and Union Power

The conversation shifts to player contracts, with a strong emphasis on guaranteed salaries and lifetime health benefits. Ocho expresses a tough stance on negotiations, referencing the 2011 lockout as a precedent.

Ocho ([02:04]):
"And I won't lie. I won't. And if I, if I, if I, if I. First of all, if, if I make it five years, I want lifetime health benefits."

Unc agrees, highlighting the financial pressures and the NFL's focus on maximizing profits.

Unc ([03:15]):
"They got to be able to recoup. They got to be able to make more. And the only way to make more and understanding the bottom line between not only sponsors, the NFL and everyone in general, you got to add more games."

Future of NFL Broadcasting

Unc and Ocho predict a significant shift in NFL broadcasting, anticipating that major networks like Fox and NBC may transition to streaming platforms such as Netflix and Amazon.

Ocho ([03:39]):
"And don't be surprised if the game that you used to see it on Fox, right. They're on Netflix."

Unc ([04:44]):
"You can find me in casino playing Uno. I'm gonna be a billionaire."

They discuss how the influx of streaming services could alter the traditional viewing landscape, potentially leading to exclusive game packages on platforms with substantial financial backing.

Christian McCaffrey’s Bounce Back Season

A major highlight of the episode is the discussion surrounding Christian McCaffrey's expected rebound after a challenging previous season plagued by injuries.

Unc ([18:30]):
"Christian is arguably the best player in the NFL. He was offensive player of the year two years ago. He changes everything."

Ocho ([19:02]):
"He missed. He missed eight games with a bilateral Achilles tendonitis. Ouch. And then played only 167 snaps before a posterior cruciate ligament ended his season."

They analyze McCaffrey's versatility and critical role in the offense, emphasizing how his return could transform the team's dynamics.

Ocho ([20:28]):
"He's special. He's special. The thing is, Ocho, he's not a naturally big man, and he plays a. And he plays probably the most physically demanding position."

Najee Harris’s Fireworks Mishap

The hosts briefly cover the recent incident involving Chargers running back Najee Harris, who sustained a superficial eye injury at a 4th of July event.

Ocho ([22:20]):
"Najee sustained a superficial eye injury doing eye injury during the incident, but is fully expected to be ready for an upcoming NFL season."

Players' Union and Historical Strikes

Unc and Ocho reflect on the power of the players' union, referencing past strikes in 1980 and 1987. They discuss the current state of negotiations and the challenges players face in securing better contracts and benefits.

Ocho ([13:36]):
"And I ain't gonna call nobody out. Y' all can go back and look, in 1987, the NFL is struck twice. They struck in 1980."

Unc ([10:42]):
"No, they won't do that. Oo no."

Mark Andrews’s Fumble and Mental Resilience

The episode shifts focus to Mark Andrews, who recently lost a crucial fumble in a playoff game. Unc and Ocho discuss the psychological impact of such moments and Andrews’s determination to bounce back.

Ocho ([36:24]):
"But he just welcomed, he just welcomed the baby girl."

Unc ([39:04]):
"Well, we know what you can do. We know what you can do."

They emphasize the importance of mental resilience and the ability to move past pivotal mistakes.

College Football Uniforms and Coach Prime’s Vision

Unc and Ocho engage in a spirited debate about college football uniforms, critiquing the trend of players wearing "biker shorts" and advocating for more traditional gear.

Ocho ([41:35]):
"I have so much respect for this game. How can we allow guys to come out there and wear biker shorts, no knee pads, no nothing."

Unc ([42:25]):
"But listen, he had his own pacific style. Allow the players to feel good about themselves based on the way they style themselves today."

They argue against implementing NFL-style uniform regulations in college football, promoting player individuality instead.

Scams Affecting NFL Players

A sobering segment addresses the recent phone scam that cost Vikings linebacker Dallas Turner $240,000, highlighting the vulnerability of athletes to financial fraud.

Ocho ([32:07]):
"Najee sustained a superficial eye injury doing eye injury during the incident, but is fully expected to be ready for an upcoming NFL season. Oo you see?"

Unc ([33:05]):
"Oh, man, listen, there's certain things we shouldn't fall for at our big age."

They offer advice on safeguarding personal finances and recognizing fraudulent schemes.

Q&A and Personal Anecdotes

In the final segment, Unc and Ocho share personal stories, discuss their recent vacations, and engage in light-hearted banter about finances and memorabilia.

Ocho ([45:20]):
"I've spent time with the family and then I came back up here and I've been, you know, doing what I do."

Unc ([48:00]):
"I want my children to experience what it's like to fly private and walk the red carpet."

The hosts wrap up with humorous exchanges about debts, collectibles, and upcoming adventures, maintaining an engaging and relatable tone for listeners.

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Conclusion

Nightcap Hour 2 offers a comprehensive discussion on various NFL-related topics, from schedule expansions and player contracts to the future of broadcasting and personal resilience in professional sports. Unc and Ocho provide insightful analysis complemented by personal anecdotes and humorous interactions, making the episode both informative and entertaining for fans.

Notable Quotes:

• Ocho ([00:06]): "Patrick Mahomes said he's not a big fan of potentially expanding to NFL regular season to 18 games."
• Unc ([01:01]): "You already know once. Once it's talked about, they're going to do it."
• Ocho ([02:04]): "I want lifetime health benefits."
• Ocho ([20:28]): "He's special. He's special."
• Ocho ([36:24]): "But he just welcomed, he just welcomed the baby girl."
• Unc ([39:04]): "We know what you can do."
• Ocho ([41:35]): "How can we allow guys to come out there and wear biker shorts, no knee pads, no nothing."
• Unc ([42:25]): "Allow the players to feel good about themselves based on the way they style themselves today."

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Thank you for tuning in to Club Shay Shay’s Nightcap Hour 2. Stay updated with more insightful discussions and engaging conversations in future episodes.

Transcript

[A]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[B]

All right. Ocho.

[A]

Yo.

[B]

Patrick Mahomes said he's not a big fan of potentially expanding to NFL regular season to 18 games. I would say more games, a little bit more taxes on the guys that play the game. If there is a way to. To get 18 games in the schedule, I think you have to have a way to have more bye weeks, spread it out. You've seen the amount of injuries that kind of piled up out there at the end of the season. You want to have the best players playing in the biggest game. So if there's a way to get 18 games, I'm not a big fan of it, but if there's a way, I think you've got to add some bye weeks in there and give guys. And give. Give time for guys body. Oh, you coming?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Let me tell you how it's going to come.

[A]

Go ahead.

[B]

You can either agree to it or we gonna lock your ass out like we did 2011 and we can go longer without pay than you can.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So we gonna lock you out and there's a stipulation of us coming back. You. You're going to have to agree to 18. It's really that simple. Just like they locked them out in 2011 and took a bigger piece of the pie.

[A]

Yes, sir. Yeah. Well, listen, this, you know what else is going to happen is. You already know once. Once it's. It's talked about, they're going to do it. Yeah. With the, with the NFL, PA and the cba. I mean, the cba, whatever CBA is, is going to come about. They're going to have to have two bye weeks. I think that's something that the owners and.

[B]

They used to have two by weeks. Ocho.

[A]

Huh?

[B]

It used to be two by weeks.

[A]

Oh, well, they. They gonna have to. They gonna have. They're gonna have to have it because it's too taxing on the players bodies. And obviously what Pat Mahomes is talking about.

[B]

Hey, they gonna be playing Super bowl on St. Patrick's Day.

[A]

Yeah. Hey, but listen.

[B]

Oh, oh. Think about it. Now you already the second week in February. So if you add a. By week now. Now you got the Super Bowl. Oh, you in March.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. And you know what? The off season gonna be shorter and shorter and shorter. But obviously we. This is money. This is all about money. It's about the bottom line. We know the NFL is about. They're about their. Their money and maximizing it the best way they can. And adding the 18th game is the best way to do that, ocho, you.

[B]

Want 18, you want 18 games? Guarantee it. I want everything guaranteed. And I won't lie. I won't. And if I, if I, if I, if I. First of all, if, if I make it five years, I want lifetime health benefits.

[A]

Ooh.

[B]

And I want my salary guaranteed. Now, there's stories that came out that the collusion case and the job and there's. They got barbatum that Roger Goodell was talking. Say, man, y' all gotta keep these prices down because these things getting astronomical. Cut back on some of that guaranteed money. I still don't understand how he said there was collusion there. There's. But that they didn't show enough. I, I, I don't know. We, we, we'll talk about that a late day time when I can read up a little bit more on it. I just saw, I was just skimming through and saw that, but. Oh, it's coming. Yeah, but you see how quick they went from 17 to 18. Think about how long it took them to go from 14. It took them so to go from 12 to 14, from 14 to 16, and from 16 to 17, it's going to take them less time to go from, from 16 to 18 than it did to go from there 12 to 14 to 14 to 16.

[A]

Well, hold, you got, you have to, you also have to understand not only the salary cap keep going up, but the money got to keep coming from somewhere. The NFL itself, the owner, you gotta have games.

[B]

That's the only way you can do it.

[A]

That's it. They got to be able to recoup. They got to be able to make more. And the only way to make more and understanding the bottom line between not only sponsors, the NFL and everyone in general, you got to add more games. That's the only way to make more money.

[B]

And let me tell you, Ocho, when this thing come back up for being, don't be surprised if the game that you used to see it on Fox, right. They're on Netflix.

[A]

Right.

[B]

They're on Amazon because they got way they're sitting on hordes of money.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

And, and you see both are dipping their toe. Amazon has already gone in. They said, look, we want that Thursday night package. Absolutely. And now the NFL will say, we gonna flex the Thursday night package for you. We'll flex it for you. And plus, they got the, what? They got the black, the Black Friday game. Yeah, Netflix. You saw Netflix got the Christmas game. Don't be surprised if the NFC package, the AFC package or the Sunday night package Right. Ended up one of these streaming services.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Hey, hey, don't be surprised. Cause I'm telling you what they got. They got unlimited resources.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. I'm not the one that said it's. I'm not the one that said what. But I was. I was in a meeting. I was in the meeting. I can say this, you know, And I talked to brother Jeff Bezos, and he's going to be the one. He's going to be the one that's going to make the moves and pull the strings. They have most of the games on his platform. I'm just telling you. Before it even happens.

[B]

Yeah, I know. Because Netflix, a. Like I said. Look, I understand it. And it's been traditions because CBS has had a package. Everybody's had the package, gave it up and got it back. Fox became a network.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Because they got football. CBS gave it up. NBC gave it up. Yeah, they got it back. Then NBC said, you know, we can't do without it. We got to get back into it. But I'm telling you what's gonna happen. I'm telling you what's gonna happen.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you already saw what Amazon play for the NBA. If they play that for the NBA, what the hell would they play for? The NFL.

[A]

NFL. Yeah. Yeah. Owners owner's getting a piece of that now, huh?

[B]

You don't think that everybody getting a check cut for 300 million, 300 plus. And I ain't sold no ticket, I ain't sold no concession, I ain't sold no parking. I haven't sold local tv.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I hadn't sold local advertising.

[A]

Huh? Yeah.

[B]

And then guess what? They have it so far. Aren't the Olympics. That's where the opening ceremony is going to be held in Sofi? The World Cup. Aren't they coming? Ain't they playing some of them games in Sofi?

[A]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[B]

Wasn't Beyonce just out there for a week? Taylor Swift was out there for a week.

[A]

Man. Hey, Stan. It's Stan, right? Stan. Making a kill stand. Making a killing over there, huh? Yeah.

[B]

That's what the whole thing. You gotta own. You gotta own the building. Because when you own the building now. Hey, didn't they have national championship games out there?

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

Hey, the Georgia Dome. Don't they have what they have there? SEC Championship. They have this. They have a. The college football playoffs. One of the games. Be there. The national championship game. Is there Beyonce coming? As a matter of fact, I talked to my daughter. She might be coming this week.

[A]

What? Beyonce coming where?

[B]

Atlanta. Tell My daddy. You know anybody? No, I don't know anybody that know Beyonce. I do not. I ain't even know you, baby. Don't you know? I don't. I don't. Because I don't know nobody. I mean, would you want me to lie?

[A]

Right?

[B]

Oh yeah. You know your daddy. You know your daddy pulls some strings for you know your daddy can't pull no strings. The only string your daddy could pull is pull you tighten your shoes up. Then the only strings I got for you. But yeah, nah, but it's happening. No, Joe, it's gonna happen. I think I was reading in 2029. They could opt out. We're gonna opt out. So if I'm the NFL, if I'm the players right now or I'm saving my money.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Cause I know especially if I'm a young player. Oh, I'm saving mine. Oo, cuz I know they gonna put the squeeze on me.

[A]

Yeah. They even. Even though they put a squeeze. This is the problem. This is the problem with, with, with. With the play. It's so many of them. It's so many of them.

[B]

Everybody ain't gonna. Cuz see, they look at it like you, like you think what you. I know what you about to say.

[A]

Talk to me.

[B]

Cuz everybody ain't gonna be Patrick Mahomes and make Joe burrow them type money.

[A]

Bingo.

[B]

It's the guys that say sh. Man, please. I got me three or four years. I can't afford to miss one of these years.

[A]

Exactly. Exactly. And, and listen. And when you think about it, the way they spend during the season, sometimes during the off season, that long break without those check. Coming.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[A]

You need to be in season for them. Check.

[B]

October, November, December, January is basically when you get your money and then you do the playoff money. So for, for five months that you played, you make your money. After that you on your own. You better save it. But don't you. This is what I love most about the MLB and the NBA.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Sometimes a man must plant a tree with the realization he'll never enjoy the shade that it produces. Oh, don't do that. Oh, you'll write. Go ahead and write that one down. Sometimes a man must plant a tree with the realization he'll never enjoy the shade in which it produces.

[A]

Come on now.

[B]

Sometimes a man must do something when he's not going to benefit from it. You see, Kurt Flood never benefited from free agency. A lot of these NBA players didn't benefit from free agency, but they were willing to sacrifice for the Greater good of the game.

[A]

Yes, sir.

[B]

Just think about it. Think about what your father, your grandmother and my grandmother and great and so forth and so on, what they sacrificed and never got an opportunity to enjoy some of the rewards that. That came along from their sacrifice. Hell, if I can't. If I can't.

[A]

If I.

[B]

Not me. See how they think.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Look at all the. Look at all. They locked it down. Mlb, the player said, you know what y' all want to do to y'? All? Y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

Y' all playing around with us. Shut it down.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Ain't no postseason, ain't no World Series, ain't nothing. Nothing until we get exactly what we want.

[A]

And you know what's funny? I don't think the players understand how much power they have. The players don't understand how much power they have if they was the band together and say, we ain't playing. We. We're not. We're not playing. And we gonna. Okay, we gonna. We want to go deadlock. Okay. We want to go cold. Okay, bet. Let's play the game. But it would take for everybody to be on board.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And I guarantee they get what they want. Oh, y' all want guaranteed contracts? Say you ain't playing, and watch what happened. But the realization of everybody buying in and understanding for the greater good, and not just you, but everybody gonna come after you. Somebody gonna have to take a stand.

[B]

No, they won't do that. Oo no.

[A]

No. That. That's difficult. Huh? That's difficult. That many players. That many players. You know, the top. The top boys can pull it off. The top dudes can definitely pull it off, but not. Not. Not everybody else.

[B]

They.

[A]

They. They. They rely on that.

[B]

O. Like I said, just think of all those people that were fighting for freedoms that they didn't get a chance to enjoy. Think about all the people that was fighting for privileges that they didn't get a chance to enjoy. If all they thought about, well, hell, I ain't gonna benefit from it.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I ain't gonna be able to make millions and billions. I'm not gonna be able to own a business. I'm not gonna be able to ride wherever I want to. I'm not gonna be able to go into any restauran. Want to. Just imagine. I think some of the greatest mistakes that one can make is to think everybody thinks like you. That's. There's no. There's no way. There's no reason for the NFL players not to have guaranteed contracts.

[A]

No. Not at all.

[B]

They got it in soccer they got it in basketball, they got it in baseball. And granted, they play. They play a lot of games. They do, but they weren't giving them that until they struck. Yeah, until they say, we gonna shut it down. But see, the difference is. And. And. And. And the players. Look, like I said, I ain't gonna call nobody out. Y' all can go back and look, in 1987, the NFL is struck twice. They struck in 1980. Oh, that's the part about being. I had a birthday, my birthday. I ain't getting no cake. You ain't even send me no happy birthday, uncle. Nothing.

[A]

But anyway, I did tell you. You forgot I called you.

[B]

Yeah, you did. You ain't send no money, though, huh? Huh? You heard?

[A]

I got. Hey, I got. I got. I got your money right here.

[B]

What good is the.

[A]

Hold on. Oh, go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead. Hold on. Go ahead.

[B]

Best part. The best part of being my age. I turned 57 God damn half weeks ago.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

Is that. I remember in 1982 when the players struck, and I remember in 1987 when the players struck. And I ain't gonna call nobody out but y' all go back and look at the players that crossed that picket.

[A]

Line.

[B]

Some of your favorite players. If the best players will cross the picket line and go back and play, what chance did the fourth rounders, the fifth rounders, what chance do they have, Ocho? The guys that's not making 100 back then, 100,000, $300,000, $400,000 was a lot of money.

[A]

That's big money, boy, back then.

[B]

So if the guy that's making 400, 500, 700,000 if he'll cross the picket line, what chance. The guy that's making 60,000, what he gonna do? What chance. He got you right, Ocho? As a matter of fact, 2011, you was in the lockout when they changed the doors and don't let y' all go in there.

[A]

Hold on. But when it was a lockout, right?

[B]

Yeah, but.

[A]

But when there's a lockout, that means contractually you can do whatever you want to do because there is no contract.

[B]

There's no.

[A]

I was doing all type of wild shit. Hey, I was the wrong one to say we in the lockout.

[B]

The wrong one to turn lose, huh?

[A]

Listen, I would. I would riding. I was riding bulls. I was doing. Listen, I was doing everything I had no business doing. I was having fun. But see, it was. It was different because you have to understand, I was working year round. I wasn't tripping, you know, I'm doing reality shows. I'm on, I'm on, I'm on tv, I'm doing all type of stuff. So actually it was a seven, eight year period is I was working year round. I'm playing football, football season over here. Hell, I'm doing tv, you know. So my situation was a little different. But I just. Man, if them boys band together, Unk boy, it would change the dynamic of the league in general. But it's so many players, Unk. It's so many players.

[B]

All you gotta do is look at what Roger Goodell, what he wanted in his contract negotiations. He ain't mentioned nothing about working less hours, right. He wanted lifetime health benefits. He said, I'll take, I won't. I want my money.

[A]

Right?

[B]

X amount of dollars. He want private fly private lifetime health benefits. Because that's the quickest way to walk. Unless you got hundreds of millions of dollars like some of these guys on show, they're going to be exempt, right? God making 500, gonna make 500. $600 million. He'll be exempt. But so everybody ain't making that kind of money. Some of these guys gonna need Medicaid.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't like to be the bearer of bad dudes. I don't like to be the harbinger. But somebody gonna get. You gonna need Medicare that play professional sports.

[A]

Yes, sir.

[B]

It's just the sad reality of it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I hate that. I wish, I wish guys. I wish a more. I wish some guys do. And I get it though. I really do. Saw the bigger picture. It did.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

Speaking of standing your ground, the Texans gave Jaden Higgins the first fully guaranteed second round rookie deal ever. Now almost every second round pick, 30 of 32 is still unsigned. It is actually refusing to sign. Rookie contracts will never be the same second round. Trey Harris officially has a holdout to report the Chargers camp. Shemar Stewart was still holding out in Cincy. Will rookies hold out trying to get guaranteed contracts? Because they're trying. Cincinnati is trying to set a precedent one way, right? Somebody else tried to set the press. The rookies try to set a press. They say they moving forward. All rookie contracts about to be guaranteed. I like it.

[A]

Yeah, I, I do too. I do. I do too. Listen, a stand like that is something that they have to do. If you want things to change. It got to start with somebody. Yeah, it has to start with somebody. Obviously the NFL and the teams, they do it contractually to set a precedent. Doesn't mean you have to take it. They just gonna be at A standstill. Who's gonna fold first? That's what it comes down to. Because the funny thing about it is if you don't want to play with great understanding, regardless of where you're drafted, they will replace you too. You gotta.

[B]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

Hey, they will replace you. So you got to understand the game that you are playing.

[B]

Yep. Does the damage, does the damage the union rep. Does this damage the union's reputation after the collusion story came out and it came out because Pablo Torrey was digging. Ain't no. Because the union and the, and, and, and, and, and, and the NFL, they agreed to keep it hush hush.

[A]

Yeah, but it ain't hush hush no more.

[B]

Hell no.

[A]

And something gonna have to give.

[B]

Something got to give. Ocho. Something gotta give.

[A]

Who gonna fold first?

[B]

Cal. Use check. The great fullback from The San Francisco 49ers expecting a bounce back season for Christian McCaffrey, which would help the 49ers bounce back from a 6 and 11 season. This is what use check saying. Christian is arguably the best player in the NFL. He was offensive player of the year two years ago. He changes everything. He looks incredible. He looks so healthy. He looks so explosive. McCaffrey began last season on injured reserve. Injured the seasonal injured reserve. When we first started the show. Ocho, what that say? If you limp into the season, how you going out season?

[A]

Ocho, you want to limp out the season?

[B]

He missed. He missed eight games with a bilateral Achilles tendonitis. Ouch. And then played only 167 snaps before a posterior cruciate ligament ended his season. Ocho.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

CMC have a bounce back season?

[A]

Absolutely. It's possible. Absolutely.

[B]

So he just welcomed, he just welcomed the baby girl.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Congratulations, Olivia.

[A]

Yep. But he, he definitely can. I mean listen, CMC is a special running back. He's a special running back.

[B]

You can do it all.

[A]

He can. He can do it all. And he changes the dynamic of that offense. When he's available to play, he can run it, he can catch it out the backfield and he makes everything easier for that offense. There are certain players in NFL when you're on that offense, it makes the office, the coordinating job easy. It makes the quarterback job easy because they can do so much most of the time when it comes to offing the coordinators and you call in plays, you have to call them in a way to hide certain weaknesses.

[B]

A player like McCaffrey, your whole playbook is open.

[A]

Opens up everything, huh? It opens up everything. There are very few players on each team like that. Every Team doesn't have them, which makes off the coordinating job that much more difficult. But when you have a player like that, it makes everything else easy because they're so good at what they do.

[B]

Yeah, he's special. He's special. The thing is, Ocho, he's not a naturally big man, and he plays a. And he plays probably the most physically demanding position, which is the running back position, as not a naturally big man. He's not Saquon. He's not Derrick Henry. He's not Joe Mixon. He's not Josh Jacobs. He. I mean, he probably going to 205, if that.

[A]

That's. That's being generous, if that.

[B]

And you're asking him to do 275. Between 275 and 323. 325, 350 touches. Now, it'll be fine. But what happens when they hit him? He hit the dirt and then they fall on top of him.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I. I think that, you know, you're gonna have to be judicious. I mean, look, Ocho, we got a weapon. I want to use it. I mean, what am I saving it for, right? I want to use it, right? It like you got a whip, man. Man, such as. I got a bad man, man. I heard, Ocho, man, what you bring the car, man? I heard you got. Hey, oh, yo, I heard you got that thing, man. Let me see it. What good is having a nice car, Ocho, if you just go sit in the garage, right? It's like, man, we got Christian McCaffrey. We got one of the most versatile running backs in all of football, and we not gonna use it right because of the potential that he might get hurt. Nah, we paying for you. If you get hurt, we'll deal with it. But when you the highest paid running back at what night? Well, I think he's the second highest paid now behind Saquon, because I think Saquon's at 20 million a year, right. And I think Christian's like at 19. I got to give him touches. I got to hand it to him. I got to throw it to him. I got. Whatever the case may be, I need the ball in his hands.

[A]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[B]

Chargers running back N. Harris suffered a superficial eye injury after fireworks mishap mishap at the 4th of July event last week. According to his agent, N. Harris was present at the 4th of July event where fireworksmith have resulted in an injury to several attendees. Najee sustained a superficial eye injury doing eye injury during the incident, but Is fully expected to be ready for an upcoming NFL season. Oo you see?

[A]

Yeah. Hey, but I don't play by them fireworks, bro.

[B]

Why you don't play?

[A]

Oo, I don't play about them fireworks. Listen, I don't play about them fireworks. When it comes to fireworks and my kids want fireworks lit, I allow someone else to light fireworks. I don't play by. I. I don't play by that. Listen, especially the eye area.

[B]

But listen, I don't what they blow up. You j. What about jpp? Have you not learned about jpp?

[A]

Hey, you ain't got to tell me twice. Even before, even before JPP's incident, I'm not playing with them fireworks, just with understanding what happens if it goes off. What happens if it goes off? I. I don't like that. I. I don't like that. I give enough space between me and any firework display, a lot of space, just in case something might tip over. I'm able to move and react. I don't play at all. And somebody. He had. I. He had an eye incident.

[B]

I don't play that. Hey, anything that cannot be replaced, I don't be fooling around with that. My eye. Hey, all this right here. No, I can, you know, artificial no eyes. My nose.

[A]

I already. I only got one good eye as it is. Yeah, I only got one good eye as it is. I am not losing nothing else. Yeah, absolutely not.

[B]

You like me? My thing ain't full Forest Whitaker, but you know, it's heading that direction.

[A]

Listen, hey, Mike, this is. You know what? People probably would Never believe me. Unc in. I never forget 1993. I'm gonna tell a quick story real quick. 1993, I woke up with inflammation in my eye Similar to swimming under salt water. If anybody's been in the ocean, you look under salt water, you know, you can't see nothing. Woke up one morning, my grandma thought it was pink eye. We woke up, she said, you're not going to school. Whatever. Few days go by, nothing. Nothing happens. The pink eye, the swelling all went away, but I still couldn't see out my right eye. Grandma, take me to the doctor. Some type of inflammation on the inside. I'm not sure what it was. Blah, blah, blah. I go have surgery. Had surgery to clear up whatever it was. So at that point, remember how big, small he. His eye?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You had one eye to look straight ahead and the other on the side to be scanning.

[A]

So my eye was like that. The majority through high school, obviously, where it was. It was. It Was very, very lazy. Very lazy. So, yeah, yeah, whatever happened, I don't remember what the procedure was, but I could never see out of my right eye since 1993. So at some point, doing certain. I forgot, not drills, but finding ways to strengthen even though I couldn't see out of it. You. I still looks like I'm looking at you now. It wasn't as bad as it used to be. Sometimes if I lock in long enough on something, on an object or looking at my phone, my eye would just drift on its own. Yeah, it's hard to notice. And people say, why you always wear glasses? Why? So I always have glasses on most of the time because my eye would drift off sometime. And the funny thing about it is, I played my entire career with one eye. I can only see out my left eye. And the funny thing, I could talk about it now. If you ever watch me catch the ball in the NFL. Every. Every catch you see, you always notice. I wait till the ball gets about right there.

[B]

Yeah, you wait till the ball get up on you.

[A]

I wait. Cause I can't see it most of the time. If you have both eyes, you can catch it from you. I mean, you could.

[B]

Yeah, you look at the ball, you see, you try to pick it up. You possibly. Can you try to get it out here?

[A]

Bingo. I couldn't see the ball until it got at least right here. And then I would just have to be able to every catch. Now, I rarely caught up my body, but I had to wait until it got close to me in order to catch it, to see it in sight. And that's. That's the story. I really never, you know, I never really shared that story. But in. In this. In this eye over here, I'm like 99, maybe 120 or 90, 20, something like that, but in my left eye. Damn.

[B]

You mean 2020 vision is based on 2020.

[A]

No, 2020 in my left eye, but right at like 90. I mean, it's bad. Like the big. The biggest letters on the. On. On the eye chart.

[B]

Yeah, if you cover.

[A]

If you cover my left eye, I can't even see. I can't even see. The biggest letters on the eye chart is. Is bad. It's real bad.

[B]

All right, well, I'll make sure I put that thing to your head on the right side so you won't see what I got. You don't give me my money.

[A]

Oh, I. Hold on. I got your money. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hey, hey. I got. I got your money, right? I got your Money.

[B]

You got it?

[A]

Yeah, I got. Listen, I got 10, 20, 30, 40.

[B]

No, that ain't enough.

[A]

Hold on, I got. Hey, I got. I got 50,000 for you right here. Huh? Yeah, yeah, I got. I got you, baby. I got you. Listen, whatever you need, I send you a little extra. Matter of fact, how long it's been? How long it's been, you know? You know, tell me how long it's been.

[B]

It's been, what, about five, we bet at the beginning of the season?

[A]

We did?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay, listen, how much interest I owe you, man?

[B]

Just shoot. Shoot your boy a cool 5,900. 6,000. Make it even.

[A]

Okay, Okay, I got. Matter of fact, you know what I'mma I'm gonna tell you? That's how much I love you. Whatever you pay for the dog, I'm gonna pay for the dog too. So I'm gonna shoot. I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna send you 6,000. And whatever you paid for the dog, I'm gonna shoot that on top of it. You know what?

[B]

I'mma put this in the mail tomorrow.

[A]

Hey. Hey, man. Mail me, my man. We'd have been on vacation three weeks.

[B]

You keep it.

[A]

Keeping all the wars, man. I forgot all about that. Hey, send me that, man.

[B]

The web is. The web is supposed to be here next week.

[A]

Hold on. Matter of fact, you know, I'm gonna shoot you a cool 10,000. Huh? I'm gonna shoot you a cool 10,000, man. Send my stuff, man. Come on now, I gotta play that.

[B]

I'm just gonna hold on to this to the Webbies cup so I can see it all all at once.

[A]

Okay? Okay, See. Hey, you a good, dude. I don't care what they say about you, boy. You good in my book. You good.

[B]

See if I got anything else of yours here.

[A]

Hey, what my funko at? Hey, send me a funko, man. Oh, hey, send me my funko.

[B]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

So, my funko. Send my webby. Hey, what's that award? What's the triangle. What's the triangle war. What's that called?

[B]

Creative excellence.

[A]

Oh, yeah, that's me. That's me. I like the word excellence because when I go use the bathroom, I piss excellence so that that award would go good in here, man. Hey, send me my jersey, man. Come on, man.

[B]

Hold on. Oh, you with the beach.

[A]

I went to Beach High. That's me. I was number two.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

How you got that?

[B]

Did you.

[A]

Come on. Hey, what you doing?

[B]

What.

[A]

What we doing over there now? Hey, Ash. Ash. You know my address, Ash? Hey, Simm. Similar stuff.

[B]

Now, we sent the other stuff to the old address.

[A]

What old address? Well, I don't. I don't live there no more.

[B]

Well, she'll get it to you.

[A]

Nah, nah, come on, don't do that. Don't do that now. Don't do that.

[B]

You don't.

[A]

Come on, man. But, hey, hold on. I'm confused. How you got my high school jerseys, both of them. Why they end up with you? I need that funko. That's a 101 right there, boy.

[B]

Okay, that's a wonderful. I'm gonna say the Funko, the award for creative excellence, and the two. The two Webbies.

[A]

I. I tell you what. How about we do it? I. I got one for you. Now, listen, it's been a long time. I owe you money. I got money right here. You send me my stuff, and I'm gonna send the money I got.

[B]

You send me my stuff.

[A]

So, hey, listen, as soon. As soon as it get here, I'm gonna send it right to you. I promise you. I promise you. But, hey, a good 50 right here. You, I can smell.

[B]

Smell good. Look good, too.

[A]

Hey, hey. It do. Hey, Fresh, too. Hey, these are new hunters, too, huh? These are new hunters.

[B]

They new.

[A]

Yeah, these new, boy. Oh, my God, I forgot. I don't know how I let it slip my mind. I don't know if we have it and what we talking about tonight? We talked about the casino and them having Uno. Lo and behold.

[B]

God damn it. Uno's go to casinos, and I'm gonna.

[A]

Tell you where you can find me. I'm gonna tell you where you can find me. You can find me in casino playing uno. I'm gonna be a billionaire. I tell you that right now. I'm gonna be a billionaire over playing Uno in a casino. And I don't know what rules they gonna have.

[B]

They gonna have different rules than what we play.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no. They can't gent. Hey, one thing they not gonna do, they can't gentrify uno. They can't do that.

[B]

Don't gentrify uno, because you can't put draw tools on each other. You can't put no draw f. They got all kind of rules.

[A]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. If you're gonna put un uno in there, let's have the original Uno. All that new stuff they got. We ain't. We ain't doing that. We ain't doing that.

[B]

Vikings linebacker Dallas Turner reportedly fell victim to a phone scam that cost him a staggering $240,000. He was allegedly targeted by a caller posing as a representative from JP Morgan Chase who claimed that someone was attempting to impersonate him at a bank branch. At a bank branch in Arizona.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The caller convinced Turner that to protect his funds, he need to urgently transfer his money to to alternate business accounts. Believing his finances were at risk, Turner visited two separate Chase banks and transferred 120,000 each of funds were later discovered to have been funneled into fraudulent accounts. Turner didn't realize he had been duped until after speaking with family members who raised concerns about the legitimacy of the instructions. He then contacted law enforcement and an effort to recover the stolen funds. Authorities have only managed to recover less than $2,500.

[A]

Hey, hey, hey, listen. Like stuff like that shouldn't work. Stuff like that shouldn't work stuff a phone call since the bank unk Stuff like that shouldn't work for one. If Chase is calling you about anything, suspecting when it comes to your money, I'm going to the bank who want nothing like that.

[B]

That's what he did. He went to the bank but they convinced him that you need to get some money out of this and put.

[A]

It in here at the, at the actual bank.

[B]

So he went to two different banks and transferred 120,000 each into the accounts that they told him, say this will protect you.

[A]

No, no, no, no, no. I'm talking to the GM or the manager at that specific bank asking if anything with my accounts is in trouble or any type of alerts, any type of security things that I should be worried about. I'm sure they will check and show and let him know there is nothing going on here, especially any phone calls. Ain't no bank calling you letting you know what are we talking about? How do we.

[B]

Because 2025, I think we've all had our number. They call. Well, this is the last call. You need to pay your toes or you need to do.

[A]

Man, man, please.

[B]

Don't know where I go. Got tolls so I know it ain't got my. Ain't got nothing to do with me. Oh, your credit card. I was like, nah, they know me personally. They call me. I don't need you telling me something wrong with my credit card, man.

[A]

Oh man, listen, there's certain things we shouldn't fall for. There's certain things. There's certain things we shouldn't fall for at our big age. That just doesn't make sense. It doesn't even. It doesn't even make sense, you know, but hopefully young Bull.

[B]

I hope we can get some of it back, but it's hard, you know, when money go, man, that thing gone. Yeah, it's hard to get. You never gonna get fully what you lost, right. You just hope you can get 40, 50, 60 on the dollar because you ain't gonna get a hundred.

[A]

Think about this. When it comes to scams of this nature, it normally works on the elderly, it normally works on the elder because they. They're not aware. They're not sure. Something like this of this magnitude shouldn't work on my young bull. You know, it shouldn't work on the young bull. He said he should know better. You got to be a little sharper.

[B]

People. People hurt you about their money, man.

[A]

Yeah. Hey, they don't play. They. They don't. They don't play.

[B]

Y' all need. Like I said.

[A]

Hey, he don't. He don't work too hard for that, too. Yes, too hard for that, man. Come on now.

[B]

And the thing was, I'm leave it right there. Cause who.

[A]

Who.

[B]

Who's the break that he with? Who's with Chase Bank?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, y' all responsible for that? So if somebody steal it out of there, y' all responsible for it. Y' all gonna place that back? I ain't gonna do nothing.

[A]

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And you know what? You know the funny thing? I bank. I bank with Chase. I bank with Chase. And just the thought of even believing any phone call, any text message like, come on, man, Banks don't even operate that way. They don't even operate that way. Oh, we who? Well, you got the wrong number, man. If you don't get off my line. Stop.

[B]

In the Ravens playoff lost to the Bills, Mark Andrews lost a fumble in the fourth quarter with the Ravens trailing 24:19. And then with 1 minute and 33 seconds left and he dropped a game tie in two point, a two point pass from Lamar. Andrew's talked about it Friday, saying, I've had to eat a lot of ish and last however long it's been, but I'm excited to go show who I am, what I can be and what I. And what I can be and what I can do to help this team with because I'm not done yet. Did the long break oo. Do you think the long break break helped Andrews move on?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Did he give him an opportune time to just sit with his thoughts?

[A]

Yeah, because it's the way the season ended. I think it's going to linger a little bit longer. You know, the way it ended. And. And for him being at fault, for them. Him dropping the ball. Obviously, they were down. He fumbled early in the season, but they had an opportunity. He fumbled early in the game, but they had an opportunity to tie the game and obviously maybe go to overtime and see what happens from that point. And I think it hurts a little bit more and it lingers a little longer because you will view it as, oh, I lost the game for us, you know? So now, obviously, he says he has to prove himself again. Well, we know what you can do. We know what you can do.

[B]

We know you've been a Pro Bowl. You've been a Pro bowl being law Pro.

[A]

Absolutely. But it's. It's those opportune times when it matters most, can you make those plays?

[B]

And I think the thing is, Ocho, the thing that we love most about sports, because you have to have a short memory, because guess what? In basketball, the game might. Another game might happen that next night. Baseball, another game happened that next day. In football, a game is going to happen that week, so you have to forget about that. I can't be thinking about in this game what happened last game, because it's going to mess me up in this game.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

But because, excuse me, that was the last game. And here we are, Ocho. February, March, April, May, June, July, August is not until he gets back out there and he's playing meaningful football that he could possibly put that now. That's never going to leave. No, that's never going to leave. It's never.

[A]

Yeah, but he's going to be all right.

[B]

That's. That's the thing that I love about professional sports, because you have to move on, and you get an opportunity to move on very, very fast. But when it's the last game, and then you have three months, four months, and, hey, bro, don't worry about it. Hey, it's eight. Ain't no one play, you ojo. You know, ain't no one play costs the game. Okay.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, listen. No, nobody will say it, obviously, but that play cost the game. It did. I mean, listen, it sounds cute. You know, they always said, oh, that's not why we lost the game. Yes, it is. Honestly. I mean, it is. Let's. Let's be realistic. You know, your teammates will always say all the right stuff. They'll never say it to your face, you know, but it costs his game. And what's going to happen is he's going to bounce back this season. He's going to have a great regular season as he did last year. But when it matters most, you have to make those plays. You got. You got to make those plays.

[B]

That's what it comes down to Ocho. That's what you. You. You paid.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

To make plays. He's one of the better played tight ends because they're used to him making those kind of plays in those type of situations. But if anybody can back bounce back. Mark Andrews coming back. Trevor Lawrence had high praise for Travis Hunter this week. Travis has been great. Just his work ethic, how he comes in. He's been one of the hardest working guys we have. I think his commitment to learning the playbook and trying to learn the two systems, it's a lot on the rookie is challenging to learn everything that he's done a nice job. We still have work to do, and we're going to get a lot done in training camp to get us ready to play come September. I'm really excited for him and how he can help our team.

[A]

Yeah, I'm excited, too.

[B]

I am.

[A]

I'm. I'm. I'm excited. I'm excited for Duvall. I'm. I'm excited for the fans in Jacksonville. I'm excited to see Travis Hunter. I'm excited to see Brian Thomas Jr. Oh, they got.

[B]

They got. They got some weapons now.

[A]

Hey, listen, every game. They got eight home games. Every game should be sold out. Every game will be sold out simply for the man.

[B]

I don't know what happened, Ocho, when I was, you know, they became a franchise in 95.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I remember going down there and we played them in 99. And we played them, obviously. Then I went to Baltimore and we played them. We were in the same division, so, Ocho, that place used to have 60,000. I'm talking about. They were loud.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now, I think they blacked it out up there. I'm like, come on, Jacksonville. But they were loaded. You know, they had Mark Brunel, they had Jimmy Kenan, McCarthy, Fred Taylor. Fabulous Freddie Taylor, Tony Bacelli.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Tony Brackens. They had Dion. Figures they had a nice squad. Oh, yeah, they had a really nice squad.

[A]

Donovan, Darius. Come on. Come on.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Come on, Jazz. Get on out there and support your team.

[A]

Oh, no. Oh, they gonna be there. You ain't got to worry about that. They are going to be there. Listen, the offense is lights out. The. The offense is lights out even before Travis Hunter got there. So the. The addition to Travis Hunter, plus Brian Thomas Jr. Who was one of the better receivers last year, as a man. Man, they gonna be nice. They gonna Be real nice now, if we can get Trevor Lawrence to play up to the expectation number one overall.

[B]

Pick and one of the highest paid players in the NFL. Yeah, he has to fulfill his end of the deal too.

[A]

Now. He'll be all right. Just a little consistency week in and week out.

[B]

Coach prime said at the Big 12 media day that something should change with the uniforms. Let's do something about the uniforms. We got guys in biker shorts. That makes me sick because I'm a football guy. I played this game at a high level and I have so much respect for this game. How can we allow guys to come out there and bike insurance, no knee pads, no nothing. Literally pants up under their thigh. That's not cool. I think there should be a fine implemented for that stuff. And let's have more respect for the TR for this tremendous game. Do you believe college should adopt NFL rules for the uniform?

[A]

Absolutely not. There's enough. There's a. Listen, there's enough control as it is. Allow the players to be themselves. Prime is one of the few, probably the only one who made the mantra, you look good, you play good, but.

[B]

Had all his plans. Ty had thigh pass, hip pads, d pads, butt pass.

[A]

But listen, he had. He had his own pacific style. He did it his way. Allow the players to feel good about themselves based on the way they style themselves today. Don't change that. Don't take that away from him. Don't take that away from. Allow. Allow the players to do what they want, to dress how they want, especially on the field, because it makes them feel good. If they feel good. If you look good, then you get the same return in their play. That's.

[B]

That's how I also said he want. You know, they adopt a lot of the rules that he's like, look, I need you to two feet. It take two feet to have a completion.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, hey, clock, don't stop and all that for. On that first down stuff. Keep it going. Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.

[A]

Right, right, right.

[B]

So he wants. Because I think the thing is, like, you're like these guys getting ready to go play to the NFL. So let's go ahead. You know, Ocho, you remember in college, used to kick off a tee, used to be able to kick a field goal or pat off a tee. They're like, nah, guys was bombing out because they were used to kicking off a tee. Then all of a sudden you get to the NFL, you got to kick it off the ground.

[A]

Off the ground. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

In high school.

[A]

Yeah, I kicked off the tea, you know, I was a kicker. We kicked off the tee. Little orange tee. Yeah.

[B]

In high school. Yeah, no, I, I'm talking about, I'm talking about for pat and field goals. Do they still kick off a t?

[A]

Yeah, I kicked off the black tee. Black tea.

[B]

Yeah. Coach prime says. Coach prime also wants a salary cap in college football. All you got to do is look at college football playoff and you see what teams spent and you understand darn well why they're in the playoffs. Should there be a salary cap?

[A]

Oh, I mean, some, some, some, some would agree. I don't think so. I, I don't, I don't like it. Allow, allow, allow. These players, are they going to put a salary cap on the coaches? No, probably not. Right?

[B]

He said, I don't think he has a problem with guys making. He's like, but, you know, some of these freshman classes, they going for 20 million, $30 million.

[A]

Well, hold on. What, what, are they going to put a salary cap on the coaches when they go to other places?

[B]

Nope.

[A]

On what they can be paid. Right. Allow these players to get max value, whatever it is that they're valued at. Why put a salary cap on that? Now, I understand as a whole, where depending on the program that has more money to spend on certain players to make your team better. Well, I mean, like, no, I don't like the salary cap idea. Allow those players to make as much as possible because there was a time where they wasn't making nothing.

[B]

Yeah, well, they was making something, but it wasn't.

[A]

Nah. Yeah, I know what you mean. Listen, hey, listen. I'm witching when you're right. I'm witching when you're right.

[B]

All right, Ojo, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[A]

God damn. Tonight was good, boy. Oh, this felt good tonight, boy. I'm glad to be back, boy. Oh, look at here. Oh, let me pp.

[B]

They. Yes, chat. I am so glad to be back. The three weeks. I mean, like I said, the first week I went home, I got an opportunity to spend time with the kids and the grandkids. My, my son has a. Have a granddaughter now, Kennedy, and it was great to see her little chunky self. It was great. But, you know, I spent time with the fam and then I came back up here and I've been, you know, doing what I do, getting ready for the season, getting my mind right to go through this grind all over again. I really look forward to it, being able to talk to you guys And I was like, man, when you do something and you really appreciate doing it, you love what you do when it's gone, man, you like, Damn. I showed Ms. Ocho. Ocho. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy said, hey, fam, was there anything on your list that you didn't get accomplished while on vacation? Love y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

Glad you're back, Doc. Thank you so much. I am glad to be back. Ocho mentioned earlier he's excited to be back. Extremely excited to be back. No, I got everything. Just relax. I just wanted to get away. I didn't even shoot any episodes of. I think I shot one episode. I think we shot one episode of Club Shay Shay. One episode. Normally we go on vacation. I'm trying to shoot as many as I can. So we're behind schedule right now. We got to make up the next. The next month, though. We probably got. We probably got go get about 10 of them in the can. But no, I didn't. I didn't. I don't. There's nothing that I didn't do or I didn't get accomplished that I wanted to get accomplished. Ojo youth. Have you a good old time. I saw you.

[A]

Listen, listen, I had a great time. What I haven't done yet, which I'm still going to do, I'm just. I'll probably be doing nightcap on vacation. You know, I have. I take my annual trip with all the kids. I take my angry trip with all the kids. So I'm taking the kids. I think we're going to Turks and Caicos. So it'll be all. It'll be all eight of us. I'm excited. I'm excited for that. I don't think. You might not like. You might not like the way we travel, you know, on the way. I'm gonna take them on this little trip, but we're gonna have some fun. I want them to be. Be able to experience what it's like to fly private. Did not have to walk through the lines and not have to go through customs. So I'm excited for that. And that. That. That. That's. That's pretty much it.

[B]

No, they've been on private. They don't need to be on private no more.

[A]

Who?

[B]

My kids. Y' all need to fly. Be private.

[A]

Oh, so. Oh, so your kids been on private just before, but see, mine haven't had the opportunity to experience. I want French fry. I want French fry. The. To be able to walk the red carpet. Listen, I'm going to want red carpet. You know, black car, pull up, you Know y' all get out and know they pick you up. I, I want them to experience that and see what it's like. Just, just, just one time. I'm, I'm gonna do it for one time. We gonna have a good old time.

[B]

Good deal. Laney Ray. Hey, Laney. Welcome back. Hope you guys had a well deserved vacay, relaxed a bit. Now, if you could bring football season back faster, that would be great, too. Unfortunately, Laney, we can't do that. We wish we could, but we can't do that. But thank you guys for tuning. Thank you for joining us. Charles Whitlock said, is Shakur Shakur Stevenson the closest thing to Floyd? No, Florida is the closest thing to Floyd.

[A]

Yeah. Now, now, now, now. I'm glad whoever that was said that. I'm glad whoever that was said that, but Shakur Stevenson, what we need to understand what you saw against Zepeda was the boxing clinic. It was a boxing master class. Shakur Stevenson's defense is his offense. With a pressure fighter like Zepeda, most, most, most fighters under that kind of pressure would have folded. If you watch your career, you. Stevenson's body language throughout the entirety of the fight. He wanted to show the entire world that I can sit here and fight, I can sit here and box. I can sit in the pocket, be defensively sound. Obviously, you're going to get hit. He got hit. Yeah.

[B]

You're the boxing match.

[A]

Yeah, he got, he got hit a lot. But it is boxing. You want to minimize those punches the best way you can. And he did a great job at it. And what you saw last night, despite what you may think or feel about Shakur Stevenson was a boxing master class. Based on what we saw, he's the best defensive fighter in the game right now. In the game right now. And I, I don't see how you can hate on it after watching that. I don't. I don't see how you can.

[B]

Pat Dub said, go ahead, Go ahead. Oo. What say? Finish it up.

[A]

What will have to change depending on who the person is across from him? Zepeda didn't have the power. He didn't have that kind of power. We had to be worried about it. Now, if that's a Tank, you're not sitting there like that. No, you're not sitting there. Cause he got, he got bricks in there. He got bricks in his hands. Yeah, you're not sitting there.

[B]

But Tank ain't no pressure fighter like the pay to, though.

[A]

Exactly, exactly. But you have to be cautious. You wouldn't be Sitting on the ropes. It's all about understanding your opponent and knowing what you can and can't get away with.

[B]

But the thing is, if you go back and look at Floyd and you look at Floyd at 130, 135. Well, Floyd 1301-351401-47154. If you go back and look at Floyd, Floyd had power.

[A]

Oh, yeah, Early Floyd.

[B]

Early Floyd messed his hands up. Go back and look at Floyd.

[A]

Pretty Boy Floyd. Not money. Not money Mayweather. Pretty boy Floyd at 130, 135 in that slugging.

[B]

Go look at what he did to Corrales Diego.

[A]

That was a good fight. That was a good fight.

[B]

Look at Cotto, Ricky Hatton, Gotti.

[A]

Yeah, there you go.

[B]

Teddy bear, bro. Pat Dub said, are you Ed and Rod the best blocking receiving group at least in the 90s? Look at TD numbers. 1100-1500-1700-2000. Back to back Super Bowls League MVP. Super Bowl MVP. And then you go back and look at the next year. Oh, OG Bird, Atlantis, Gary Rush for 1250. Those. The one thing that look, the one thing the Broncos received when they were. Mike Shanahan was there. Oh, you blocking.

[A]

Got to.

[B]

You blocking. That's why. And people thought, oh, well, it doesn't matter who you. Because, you know, we put. You put Reuben Drones back there. He go get 1200. You put Mike Anderson, he's rookie of the year. He goes and get 1500. Clinton Porters comes in, he's rookie of the year. He runs for 1500. Yeah. People thinking that it was. Nah, man, it was the scheme in which we had. I mean, you had to have a certain type of back. Bobby Turner, who's the running back coach in San Francisco, Wherever Shanahan is, you're gonna find Bobby T. He went with Mike to. To. He went. First of all, he went with Cool to Houston, and then he went with Mike to Washington. And then when Mike got let go, he went with Kyle to Kyle went to Cleveland. Then he ended up going to Atlanta. He went with Kyle to Atlanta, and when Kyle went to San Fran, he followed Kyle. But Bobby T. Is the best running back coach in football. That's all he wants to do. He don't want to be a head coach. He don't want to be an offensive coordinator. He just wants to be a head coach. So. Yeah, but I think we were. Ain't nobody better than us. Mr. McGee said. Remember when Ocho tried to block Ray Lewis? I thought Ocho retired As a physical, as a physical run blocker. After that, it went into mental run blocking with the trash talking. He did the abyss. One said is TD all time leading rusher if he doesn't get hurt. I don't know about the all time leading rusher. I mean, he has the third highest rush average of anybody in NFL history. Let it sink in.

[A]

How much? What, what is it, what, 5.8?

[B]

Nah, he averaged like 90 over 90, like 97 yards a game. I think Barry's 2.

[A]

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[B]

I don't know about the all time leading rusher, but it's hard when you look at the guys that came behind him and look at the yardage that they got, right, he gonna be well on. He's gonna be well over 10,000 and he's not gonna have to wait as long as he had to wait to get into the hall of Fame. I know that for certain. Dab Smith said Rogers, with Andy Reid as a coach and that defense, I'm taking Aaron, Pat has Tyreek and Kelsey. Aaron had nowhere near that. But you also got to understand, is he gonna listen? See, y' all just think. It's about Tally. You just think. Look at Brady. Brady was willing to be coached. Patrick Mahomes is willing to be coached. Are we sure? Are you sure? Dab, hold on.

[A]

Does he understand the receivers that Aaron Rodgers had?

[B]

No, he don't. Cause Jordan Nelson wasn't a slouch.

[A]

Well, Greg Jennings wasn't.

[B]

No, Greg Jennings wasn't a slouch. Donald Driver wasn't a slouch. James Jones led the league and receiving touchdowns. Jamaica Finley was. Was a, A Pro bowl tight end. Hey, boy, look at the offensive lineman that he had. Jenkins, Baktiari. Don't do that. Yeah, so now, so now were you saying that when Andy Reid was in Philly or you saying this when Andy Reid is in. In. In Kansas City? Because I don't remember. I don't remember anybody saying, man, if Andy, if Aaron Rodgers had Andy Reid when Andy Reid was in Philly. Oh, but now you want to have Andy Reid when he's in Kansas City. Were you saying that when he was coaching Alex Smith or are you saying that now you got Patrick Mahomes? I'm curious. I noticed everybody says if Aaron would have had. Aaron would have had Andy Reid. Andy Reid with Patrick Mahomes or Andy Reid in Philly? Which one? Or Andy Reid when he had Alex Smith, Which Andy Reid you want him to have? It's funny. It's funny because nobody, nobody. You gotta Realize, first of all, I remember when Andy Reid was in Green Bay with my brother. Know him well, know his wife, go to the provost, sitting there to have a conversation. They're great people. Nobody thought Andy Reid was a top coach when he was in Philly. Now stop it, people.

[A]

It's amaz. It's amazing what the right player could do, huh?

[B]

He was so. He was so great. Jeffrey Lewis said, nah, we good.

[A]

It's amazing what the right combination of. Of. Of. Of players and coach together can do. Allah. Tom Brady and Bill Belichick.

[B]

Oh, hold on. Yeah, give Aaron Rodgers, Bill Belichick. The Bill Belichick in Cleveland or the Bill Belichick in New England when he got Tom Brady because he had Drew Bledo and he had Mac Jones. So which. Which one? So I just need to adapt. Which. Which Andy Reid did you want Aaron Rodgers to have? The one in Philly or the one in which he had Alex Smith? Oh, oh, oh. Because guess what? Travis Kelsey was there with Alex Smith. Tyreek was there with. With Alex Smith. Tell me you heard him talking about like they talk about him when they had Patrick Holmes.

[A]

Listen, Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid is no different than Richard Gere and goddamn Julia Roberts and Pretty Woman. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect match. Perfect match. It worked well together.

[B]

Tyree McClinton of 6220. Oh, excuse me, 6200. Why does the NBA media try to diminish LeBron's legacy? For example, I watched someone say, if Kawhi wins it, Kawhi wins it again, it changes LeBron legacy. But Jordan legacy never changed. When Giannis won MVP Defensive Player of the Year, a Kobe 3P. Cause if I don't like somebody, I can find a million ways. If I don't like him, Ocho, I'll find a. I can find a million ways to further try to discredit them.

[A]

Always listen. Depending on who you're talking about, the goal post continuously move. Yes, depending on who you're talking about. Matter of fact, the greater the player, the greater the accomplishments. The more they try to move the goal post to diminish what they've done 13 times.

[B]

First team all NBA, he made in. In year 22, he made second team all NBA. Could he have made first team? Sure, if he'd have made it over Donovan Mitchell. I don't think people having a heart attack. But hey, he didn't. Donovan made it. Congratulations, Don. Congratulations on getting married too. On the engagement to Coco Jones. Congratulations, y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

But the man is a 13. He's a 13 time first team all NBA selection, most in NBA history. He's a 21 time all NBA selection, by far the most in NBA history. Four Finals MVP, four regular season MVPs. Led the league in assists, led the league in scoring. He's got more playoff wins, got more scored more playoff points. Scoring leader. That's still not enough.

[A]

No. Hey, you know, you know what? You know why LeBron, you know, is the greatest? You know why he's what the, the, the, the, the. The goat. Because he gave me his 50k point ball. LeBron chat. Y' all see that? You know what this is worth, LeBron, I appreciate you, boy. I don't care what they say about you, boy. They will never be able to diminish your legacy because I have your 50, 000 point ball.

[B]

Brian S. Said you look 37, not 57. Appreciate that. Ocho. Looks like you had a good vacay Nightcap, fam. We missed you. We need our boy. Your voice is echoing in the homes around the world. Yes, I agree. We missed you guys too, Ocho. Yo, we got the biggest trash talk up there. 91. Over 9,100 votes. 50. 50. You got 50 of the votes. I got 50% of the votes.

[A]

Somebody. Somebody lying.

[B]

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