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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All right, check this out stat. And Mad Max. Want to see Michael Beasley and ISO Joe Neck? Take a listen to this. Joe. The only person I would like to see him play is Joe. Look at you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to see him go against ISO.
Tom Yamas
Yeah, I so Joe.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I like I so Joe. But goddamn, I just think D. Joe got Joe got Joe 69. Yes. 230 in your Joe monster.
Tom Yamas
Yeah, that'll be tough one.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That'll be a good one, Joe. What you thinking, Joe?
Tom Yamas
I think it'll be a great matchup. I tell y' all something.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Come on, Joe.
Joe Johnson
No, don't give me no PC answer, man.
Tom Yamas
Listen, listen, would you, Would you listen, man?
Joe Johnson
Okay, okay.
Tom Yamas
I sat down and talked to them guys with Next Chapter before they pick Lance Stevenson and Uncle Ocho. I'm be honest with you. Like, man, when we sit down and talk, don't. Don't diminish my career, bro. And what I've done. Like we sit down, you talking about. Oh, man, you and Beasley had great NBA careers, man. I got 20,000 points. Only 52 guys in the world with 20,000. Come on now, seven time NBA all star. I wasn't no one hit wonder. Two hit wonder like I did my thing, man. Don't diminish what I've done. You know, I ain't saying what Beasley done. I'm just saying don't come to me with this piss poor ass offer and think I'm just gonna jump. I'm just gonna jump board. Now, if y' all wanna make this thing legit and we doing it however you say boxing style, then come and meet correct, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What are you gonna take? What it take with 250,000, Joe? That'll get you.
Joe Johnson
Nah, Joe ain't doing 20,000 points. We need 500, 000 to battle. What you talking about?
Tom Yamas
Yeah, we gonna have to negotiate this. You're gonna have to come at me, right? Man, if you don't come at me right, I ain't the guy to go back and forth with you. I'm just gonna be like, oh, okay, cool. And I'm gonna keep it moving, you.
Joe Johnson
Know what I mean?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, Joe said I ain't got no habit now. So if y' all think I need money because I gotta have it, I don't got one.
Joe Johnson
Hold on, hold on, Joe, Joe. And listen, Unc, you should have known. They should have known not to play with Joe when he was on the show. Talk about he got property.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He gotta cut it out, Joe, he gotta cut it out.
Joe Johnson
You got. Listen, Joe, you gonna say it, so I say it for you, man. Don't play at me like that. Don't play at my top. I got money.
Tom Yamas
No, listen, listen. Oo, I love competing, bro. I seen what him and Lance did and what they went through, that was a long, drawn out process before the game itself, you know what I mean? Like, bro, my time is valuable, homie. Come at me, right?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, go ahead, make the money. Make the money, right? Get the sponsors and go and say, hey, one on one. Beasley and I sold joke.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Tom Yamas
Make it right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Stevenson. Hello. Yeah, I don't know what y' all. I don't know what y' all.
Joe Johnson
I don't know what y' all may be. Hey, talk yoga. Hey, Joe.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, I'm not him. Capital A, Capital I, period. Capital M. I'm him, man. Go. Not him.
Tom Yamas
Go play with somebody else. Go play with somebody else, man.
Joe Johnson
Put a name on it so I can say a name for you. So I can let them know not to play with us. Because I talk Bible.
Tom Yamas
Nah, nah, we.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We ain't. We ain't getting.
Tom Yamas
They. They know who they are.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Hey, yeah, yeah, homie. You know who you are. Shoot, I'm talking for Joe.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Joe say he about that. Y' all know Josh? Yeah, he said, how y' all.
Joe Johnson
Hold on.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Y' all do know what ISO mean, right? Yeah, y' all do know how I got that name, right? So y' all know what I do one on one, right? Hey, hey.
Tom Yamas
Because I'm. I'm chill, laid back, man. Don't take that.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Joe. They think that Sweet Joe, this ain't sweet over here, all right?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He's too big of a cat to be played with like a kitten. Hello, big bad.
Tom Yamas
Come on, now. You got to come at me correct, man. You started talking about, oh, man, we got to take care of these guys on the undercard. What the hell they got to do with me? Ain't got nothing to do with me.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The undercard. I'm the card. I don't know what's under, but I'm the card. You hear me?
Tom Yamas
Yeah. Hey, man, they got to come correct, Uncle.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They gonna make it happen, Joe. I got a feeling they gonna make it happen.
Tom Yamas
I'm sure they will.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And then it wins.
Joe Johnson
I'm gonna be there.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Don't say everybody, right?
Joe Johnson
I'm be the talker for you. I'm gonna be the talker for you. You know, you just. You just focus on playing, and I do all the talking to Beasley because he ain't been out talk me. I. I got. I'm ready, right? Yeah, we ready.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Let's get to it. So, hey, y' all want to make this happen? If y' all want to come and get the third Member a nightcap? It's gonna cost y' all.
Tom Yamas
Yeah, that's all I'm saying, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We're gonna have to be in the tender and old Jordan. I gonna have to be in the timber. We got to be streaming it on Nightcap, so we have to be live, too.
Joe Johnson
Oh, I' ma beat out. I'm gonna be there. I'm talking trash first quarter. I'm gonna be in there with my ISO Joe wear on, huh? I'm gonna be on the sideline.
Tom Yamas
Yeah, we're gonna have that thing turned.
Joe Johnson
Up to the back, man. Hey, Joe. Hey, hey, man, I gotta tell you. What about.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think you miss size these, Joe.
Tom Yamas
Hey, you a 2x Asia.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I might be. I might need to be a 3X.
Joe Johnson
Hey, I told, I told, I told.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, hey.
Joe Johnson
I told you. It's all.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I would have to wear a jock strap. If I pull the reformer and bend over.
Tom Yamas
Oh, you're gonna have your tights. Oh, no fun to that. I know you're gonna have your thighs.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, it's something, man. If I go outside and fall on the ground, I'm gonna grow old tree cars gonna be in the soil.
Joe Johnson
I told. I told you. They told you. They supposed to be like that. It's for yolk.
Tom Yamas
They cut short like that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How you got to cut short in the front and long in the back?
Tom Yamas
It's got just. Just a little tad. Just a little tight. Hey, that's a new style, huh?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Damn.
Tom Yamas
Look, look.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, Joe. Yeah, I might have to put mine on backwards then. I need to put. I need. I need the front hanging out a little further.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, listen. Hey, hey, I had. I had my. I had my stuff on today, though, right, Joe? And I was.
Tom Yamas
I was down.
Joe Johnson
I was down over in. In Aventura area. Aventura.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know, I.
Joe Johnson
With my people.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know, I.
Joe Johnson
With my people, we were going to grab a little bite, eat or whatnot, you know, and, you know, Google my girl, you know, boom. She done shut off. Shut off into the store. And I'm sitting there.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm. I'm on the phone.
Joe Johnson
I'm on the phone, and, you know, three girls come up and they all got on Lululemon. I like, oh, but what. I like what you got on. You know, you so. You so have him, like. So I look behind me to see and see if sister covers.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Like. Yeah, you see if it was the setup. Somebody made the setup.
Joe Johnson
I. I thought it was a setup. I'm like, really appreciate it. I. I thank you. And this. This is from a Good friend of mine by the name of, you know, Joe Johnson, you know, Daddy down there, Atlanta, he got a yoga studio. This is. This is his stuff. It's stuff. You know, make sure you watch the show tonight. And I'm. He'll. He'll be. He will be able to do a better job of addressing where you can get it from, because this is. This is a care package. I told her I'm never really on the end of receiving things, but I just happened to get this in the mail, and I put it on as soon as I got it watching right now.
Tom Yamas
Yeah, they watch it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Tom Yamas
Yeah. I appreciate y' all. All they got to do is go to d.isoyoga.com and you can. You can definitely place your orders on there.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I'm about to.
Tom Yamas
Oh, you need a big size.
Joe Johnson
But, hey, it's about yoga. It ain't about being big. It's about being comfortable within yourself.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, but I. You know what I'm saying, don't you? I don't want to grow no. Hey. I don't want to grow no oak trees, man.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, my shorts fit perfect, bro.
Tom Yamas
You don't wear your shorts that high. Now, come on, now.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What you want me to wear? What you want?
Joe Johnson
It's supposed to be. It's supposed to be. They supposed to come above your knees, huh? It's. It's yoga. These.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yoga. Let me see. Let me go. Let me see, bro. Frank.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Joe, my short fit perfect.
Tom Yamas
Look at him. Look, I already knew they gonna fit you right on the money.
Joe Johnson
You see all the muscle, man, you.
Tom Yamas
Got your little thighs.
Joe Johnson
Hey, one thing about it, I'm chiseled up, right? I'm chiseled up, man, like head to toe. I got muscles in the toes.
Tom Yamas
Come on, Jay wants to use that. Hey, man, come on, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, can I get something? God damn.
Joe Johnson
Oh, no, no.
Tom Yamas
They don't come to your knee. They supposed to be above the knee, baby.
Joe Johnson
At these yoga shorts, he wanted to look like the Michigan basketball team from back in the day.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You hear me, Man, Joe, I definitely got to have some tights on.
Tom Yamas
Yeah, you gotta have your tights on. Oh, man, you good.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You put the shirt on like Robin and Isaiah Thomas and the bad boy pistol.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, Joe, he won them five. He won them five. Five yoga shorts.
Tom Yamas
Hey. Huh? We're in 20, 25, baby. We gotta tighten up a little bit.
Joe Johnson
Oh, man, that's funny. Hell, no. Goddamn material. Good boy.
Tom Yamas
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. May not take care of y' all, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, where you got this from?
Tom Yamas
Come on now.
Joe Johnson
Hey, I know it's probably Italian, huh?
Tom Yamas
We gotta talk about it.
Joe Johnson
You be on your rich. Cause you the only I know got property.
Tom Yamas
You gotta chill, my boy.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We pinned the link in the chat. Where you get the ISO joke here at, man? Hey, look, I'm trying to get. To have a back pocket. You need to use this back pocket material for some lid. Take that back pocket off and go ride and just add like a quarter inch longer.
Tom Yamas
Hey, Ojo, sit down. It wasn't that funny.
Joe Johnson
Now listen, I like my stuff small. I like my stuff small because if. If in my short small, it make everything else around me look big. You see? Hey, look how big I look, Joe. Look. Look at my arm.
Tom Yamas
I see you got your guns don't match.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Huh?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I'm getting there, but I'm telling.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You, you getting there. The Puerto Rican Superior Nasly owned league, the league that Boogie Cousins plays in, suspended it for the remainder of his season after Boogie had a number of altercations with fans. On Monday, Boogie also had his contract terminated by the team. First, Boogie scratched his acorns and made the fan sniff his hand. And then on his way off the court into the locker rooms, he angrily provoked fans heading to. Leading to one person dumping a drink on his head. All hell broke loose. Once that happened, Boogie was trying his absolute hardest to break free of the people holding him back to the attack. The person responsible.
Tom Yamas
At no point, Uncle Ocho is scratching.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's scratching your, your, your, your, your, your man product. And making a heckler sniff worse than spitting on them.
Joe Johnson
Oh, you spit on them?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, he scratched. He scratched his private part, right? And put him in the heckler's face. Made him smell his hand.
Tom Yamas
Yeah. Hey, hey. Ain't no, ain't no.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ain't no.
Tom Yamas
We ain't got no. They can't be in the game, fellas. Like, I ain't gonna lie just watching that. I was embarrassed for Boogie watching it, you know what I mean? For him to lash out and act that way, you know, grabbing his private part and the way he went like, you gotta understand, man, heckler's a part of the game, bro. Like, they gonna heckle you, especially if they know you emotional, unstable. This is what they gonna do. They gonna do whatever they can to get under your skin to make you react in a way that when you probably look back at that, you gonna be like, dang, man, I was so outta character. I shouldn't have been acting that way. And it was disappointing to see him act that way. And I'm, you know, I'm glad them dudes held him back.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Because if he did, would.
Tom Yamas
If he was to get up in them stands and get at the dude who threw the first drink on him, man, that whole arena probably would have.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They would have. And then it had been the Malice in the palace all over again. Yeah, yeah.
Tom Yamas
And they wouldn't. It wouldn't have been good, huh?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No.
Tom Yamas
He probably would have took one of them out, but.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, that ain't no situation. The silverback gets 100 men. You hear me?
Tom Yamas
So, yeah, I thought that was a bad look, man. I didn't like to see that. I'm gonna be honest with you. So what you guys think about.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I agree, Joe. I agree. And Boogie knows better. Boogie has played in the NBA. Boogie knows. And maybe that's a part of the reason why he's not back in the NBA. Because, I mean, he's plenty good enough. We don't. Look, there was an honest discussion that was being had. Who would you rather have? Boogie, Cousins or Anthony Davis? Because they were the two best big men, fours or fives or however you want to label them. They were the two best in the game. Boogie was getting you 55 and 20. Boogie was getting you 40 and 25. He was sensational. He could shoot the three. He could post. He had the mid range. Boogie could. Offensively, Boogie had no weakness, but he talked himself out of a situation. He could have got a max contract from Sacramento for 205. He talked himself out of that. He ended up going to New Orleans and ended up carrying his Achilles. And it kind of went down from there. I agree with you, Joe. In a situation like that. Boogie, come on, bro. Go ahead and get. Just get that money. I don't know. I'm sure he's making good money. It's not NBA money, but he's making good money. He's making more money than he would be sitting on his couch.
Tom Yamas
Absolutely.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But the dude, come on. I mean, that's really disrespectful. To scratch your. I mean, to scratch your private. And then put him in the man's face.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now, you know, you. You on the street and you do some stuff like that. Oh, dude, go fire you up, right?
Tom Yamas
So, look, they had no choice but to let him go. You know, you can't come back in that arena thinking them fans ain't gonna forget. They gonna forget that. So I hated to see him acting that way.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Cause I like Woody, you know.
Tom Yamas
Yeah. I mean, he's a hell of A player, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Spokey to him a couple of times, Ocho at different places, that's all. I mean, he's really, I mean, he understand, he's really engaging. Great, great conversation. Yes. But I, I don't know what, what possess. I don't know what was said, what possessed him to do that.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Of all the things you could have done, it's like, hey bro, I'm better than you, you watching me play. But to do that.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I mean, it's unfortunate by the. With what happened and then what transpired, but I mean just, it's all about being able to control yourself, understanding the environment that you are in. You're gonna have hecklers. Some people able to control themselves in those environments. Some people allow people to get under their skin. Listen, I ain't no telling what was happening going on with him that Pacific day that caused him to step like that. And it's sad to see and it's unfortunate that someone this great in the way he was viewed as an NBA player and it's come to this. So I mean, hopefully young bull can, can, can get it together and get another opportunity somewhere else and, and right his wrongs.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I, I, I don't know, Like I said, I don't, I don't know, I don't know what was said to make him respond and make him go that route. Because I mean, what, what, I mean, what would make you to do that? Of all the things that you could do. I mean, I wouldn't, I mean, I mean for me, I, I never would have thought, I never would have thought that.
Tom Yamas
No, I seen a fan doing like this. I don't know if he was calling him a crybaby or if he was handling with that entire game and he just got fed up. But for me, guys, I just feel like it's nothing that, you know, I know fans can be a little irate at times, but I feel like, man, you gotta keep your composure, bro. You gotta control your emotions.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Cause sometimes fans go to games just to do that, just to get you outta character.
Tom Yamas
That's their job. That's their job to help. He may have been there for the other team. So his job was to heckle Boogie and hopefully he can get him outta character.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Robin Ficker, the guy that used to be at Washington game behind the bench and heckle everybody from Jordan to Charles Barkley. I think he started with the Bullets and then obviously the Wizards, but he was, he was, it was a part of it and, and the guys actually look forward to it because in Order for you to get heckled, I mean, you got to be a pretty damn good player. They're not heckling. The, the, the eighth guy on the bench, they might like, hey, shut up. Why you not even getting in the game? Like I said, I don't know what. I mean. Look, sometimes you have a bad day.
Joe Johnson
Bad day.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Something exacerbates that situation. And in the process of you having a bad day, somebody saying something or doing something, it makes your day get even worse.
Joe Johnson
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But, I mean, Boogie, Boogie, with his history and knowing that that would, that's, that's. And I'm not saying that that's the only reason. Maybe there's some other things. Maybe they don't think Boogie can help him, whatever the case may be. But it's hard to see that of all the big men, the five that's in the league currently, that they're better than Boogie, ain't no way. All the big fours and five that's in the NBA right now, better than Boogie, he better than Alex Lynn right now. I know that. I know that you play. You probably played with Alice Lee and Joe.
Tom Yamas
I played against him. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, I think you're right. You're right, though. He's definitely, I, I think he's definitely better than Alex Lynn. But maybe, maybe it was a point to where he was, you know, complaining to the rest a lot. I didn't see the game. I'm just speculating. And maybe the fans just took advantage of that opportunity to kind of, you know, get into his emotions and he couldn't control.
Joe Johnson
Hey, I like them chaotic environments like that, Joe. I love, I love, I like playing away in, you know, away games with the fans of heckling. They talking trash and saying all type of stuff. You know, sometimes, sometimes I talk trash back. But that, that stuff, it never, ever gets up under my skin. I always enjoyed it.
Tom Yamas
I, I, hey, but Ocho, you gotta look at, from a basketball standpoint, they right on the.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, that's right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's the difference between football and basketball.
Tom Yamas
They can touch you.
Joe Johnson
I understand. But hell, you could be sitting your ass right next to me. It's the fact that you talking trash. I like being in that chaotic environment. I enjoy it. I operate very well in chaos. Very well. Hi, Zoe Saldana.
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Hmm.
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Let me check this pocket. Oh, mints.
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See mint mobile.com yeah, I. Like I said, without knowing, like I said, it'd be interesting to see. But everybody will say boogie. No matter what he said, he didn't call you the N word. He didn't say this X, Y and Z. I mean, and still you look like, hey, call security and say, man, like Kevin, like a lot of times the NBA now, they just point to you and security have you removed. They'll have security have you removed. But to, to. And then like I said, they revoked his contract. They terminated his contract. So like I said, I don't know how much money he was making, but hey, it was enough money to cause him to go over there. So obviously it was decent money. He wasn't making minimum wage.
Tom Yamas
Nah. And then probably playing the game, man, a lot of times, especially as we get up in age, it's really therapy, you know what I mean? You still had a love and passion for the game. You enjoy, you enjoy competing, you know, it was probably more so that than anything else. And like you said, yeah, if it gets too outlandish to where they going overboard.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They're saying things that you feel like, hey, this ain't trash talking here. Now you making it personal. Hey, security. Hey, remove him.
Tom Yamas
Right, right, right. But to try to, you know, dissolve it, you know, yourself, obviously you see how that went and it was bad, man. It was bad. It's really hard to look at if you ask me.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I, I hate that. Like I said, I like boogie, but yeah, you can't scratch a private and then stick them in the man's face. Yeah, you can't.
Tom Yamas
Yeah. Hey, hey, the man, the man started flipping him off. It was bad.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, it was bad. Look, but you know what, but you know what we want like a group of us. Anytime we do something, it, it reflects negative on everybody that looks like us. Yeah. Now everybody else, anybody else that does something like that, that's them. Us. See, I told you. That's how they are. That's how they behave. That's how they act. That's how they do this. We're the only group that when one person in our group does something, it reflects negatively on us. And that's ingrained, Ocho. I'll be somewhere and somebody start yelling or screaming, I. I get embarrassed, and it ain't me.
Tom Yamas
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's not me. I get embarrassed.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Tom Yamas
Oh, same way.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So I'm like, damn. I mean, a lot of times, hey, hey, bro, hey, just take it here. I said, ma' am, I'll pay for it. Right, right. That's just.
Tom Yamas
And then, and then what? What took me was when he started flinching at him like he was gonna hit him. I was like, oh, man, come on, y' all get booked up out of there, man. Don't, don't. But don't. Don't have him out there acting like that. They got my man all out of character. I said, damn. So hopefully we'll see him get on here some at some point and kind of let us know what happened. You know what I mean? So, very unfortunate situation.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Very, very unfortunate situation. The New York Knicks added more names to the list of coaches they aren't allowed to interview this offseason. Here's a look at all the coaches that Nick have tried to interview so far. Billy Donovan, Chicago Bulls. Jason Kidd, Dallas Mavericks. I made Udoka, Houston Rockets. Chris Finch, Minnesota Timberwolves. Quinn Snyder, Atlanta Hawks. The Knicks are also are seemingly eyed a well established coach to replace Tom Thibodeau. But they haven't had much success so far. See, Ocho, that lets you know there was no plan. You trying to interview coaches that already have jobs.
Joe Johnson
Jobs, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Don't you know? Aren't you supposed to have this thing lined up if you know that you're going to let this man go? Like I said, I believe. And I could be wrong, right? I believe they expect when they beat the Boston Celtics, now that placed unrealistic expectations. Oh, we, we gonna beat them. We gonna beat the, the, the Pacers, we going to the NBA Finals. And then that didn't happen.
Joe Johnson
Right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He been playing his players. He been grinding his players all year.
Tom Yamas
Yeah. Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Them boys gassed out. Listen to, to me, the only, the only person for the job, you know, that would qualify and maybe have the same success that Tom Thibodeau had would be Mike Malone. That's the only thing. That's the only person I could think of.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Being denied permission to interview those head coaches doesn't necessarily rule them out as candidates. The aforementioned coaches, all the coaches I mentioned, Billy Donovan, Jason Kidd, I made doka, Chris Finch and Quinn Snyder. Teams have all said, no, you can't interview these guys. The aforementioned coaches could try to Force their way out of the current positions. But that is a very, very risky move when you haven't been guaranteed the head coaching job.
Tom Yamas
Absolutely. It looks like they're looking for a very veteran.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They won't get coach. You're not getting this job because the expectation is they, they think in championship. So they're not going to give this job to a guy a first time coach is not getting this job.
Tom Yamas
Right. And I know it's a lot of people out there petitioning for Sam Cassell.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We're not getting this one.
Tom Yamas
Yeah, they not, they not going with no, no first year head coach. They want somebody experienced veteran coach.
Joe Johnson
Shoot. Mike Malone, Mark Jackson, hell, Mike Brown.
Tom Yamas
But for whatever reason, I ain't even heard Mark Jackson's name.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't know what, I don't know what it is. And nobody really, you know, you hear this and you hear that and a lot of speculation and conjecture and innuendo but nothing has been offered as fact or why Mark Jackson hasn't been given. Every other coach that's been fired, not once, not twice, three times have been given opportunities. This man did a great job. He kind of laid the foundation for the warriors and he can't even get an interview. They don't even mention his name.
Tom Yamas
Nah, nah, they don't. That's crazy to me. So it makes you wonder, man, is this something a lot deeper than what it's gotta be?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Like I said I had Mark Jackson and I had him on club shake shit early on and he said he didn't know. He said, I wish they would tell me.
Tom Yamas
Because he from that area.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He went to St. John's. He played for the Knicks. As a matter of fact, he was rookie of the year.
Joe Johnson
That'd be perfect.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think it was what, 87. Mark Jackson wasn't he rookie of the year in 87, 87, 86. 87, 87, 88. 87, 80. Okay then.
Tom Yamas
You know, you got guys who probably don't think that's a, a sexy job right now, man, you know, because they just made it to what? They made it to semi.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, finals.
Tom Yamas
Eastern Conference finals. Yeah, Eastern Conference finals.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I think that's what placed unrealistic expectations on them. Nobody had them making a run. Nobody thought they were going to beat the, the Boston Celtics. Hell, they what, they go seven games? Would they go six games or seven games with the, with the Detroit?
Tom Yamas
They won six. I think they won, they beat Detroit in six.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So with that being said and now you beat the Boston Celtics who won the championship last year and you. And you know, you jump out on them, and it's like, okay, now, ain't nobody in our way now on this side but the Pacers. We ain't got to worry about the Cavs. We ain't got to worry about nobody else. We've already dispatched the Celtics. And so I thought that was unrealistic expectations. And when it those. You know, that's the thing that happens. Expectations. When expectations aren't met, that's when disappointment comes in.
Tom Yamas
Yep.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That's when disappointment comes in. Someone posted a graphic predicting the 2028 U.S. men's basketball team roster. They got Jalen Brunson, Anthony Edwards, Tyrese Halliburton, Donovan Mitchell, Cade Cunningham, Jason Tatum, Zion Williamson, Paulo Bankero, Jaylen Williams, Cooper Flag, Bam Alabo, and Chad Holgre. I don't know, Joe. I don't think we bringing the goal back in 28.
Tom Yamas
You don't think so? They done caught up with us too much.
Joe Johnson
I don't know if the team.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I sure hope Stephanie, KD and LeBron can still hang on.
Tom Yamas
No, it's a rap.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Damn.
Tom Yamas
28. Them boys ain't playing that in 28.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Like magic. Let Magic. Magic came out of retirement.
Tom Yamas
And Bird.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And Bird was on his last. And Bird was on fumes.
Tom Yamas
Nah, I ain't gonna lie, though. But the disparity, as far as you think.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You think that team right there could beat Serbia, could beat Slovenia, can beat France. That team ain't beating France.
Tom Yamas
Nah, man. It's gonna be hard, bro. It's gonna be hard.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We ain't got no size.
Tom Yamas
I seen. I forgot another team. I was just looking at. They had the two Thompson twins.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, Jamaica.
Tom Yamas
Yeah, Jamaica. Jamaica gonna have a squad, too.
Joe Johnson
I mean, listen, these teams could have all these squads. These teams and these countries can continue to improve as much as they want. That goal is coming on down here, man. The usa. You hear me?
Tom Yamas
Oh, this is in la.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
In la?
Joe Johnson
Yes, in la. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho, man, I don't know. Hey, brother, there's a reason why they started sitting pros and no longer sent college players.
Joe Johnson
I got you.
Shannon Sharpe
I understand.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's a different time. It's not 1992 where you got four or five guys. In the NBA. There are two, three guys on every team. Unless you go to Sedan somewhere, that that's NBA players.
Joe Johnson
I understand that. I understand that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And those guys. And the difference is these guys never play together. You try to put a team together in two weeks. Those guys been playing together their whole damn life. Yeah, yeah.
Tom Yamas
You're Right. It'll be challenging, but I think. I definitely think we could compete. It's just going to be hard to win, man, because the world is getting better. These guys are getting better, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm looking.
Shannon Sharpe
Whew.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't know. Ojo.
Joe Johnson
We just talk. I mean, obviously we're basing things based off this team.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ojo, think about what we said. We said KD, we said LeBron and Steph. And it took a historic. It took a great shooting, one of the greatest shooting performance in Olympic history. It take a. LeBron played at his apex, KD played at the apex to beat France.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. That's the game of basketball. That's basketball. France is good. They're good. They're. They're good.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Guess what? They're gonna be even better. Wimby's gonna be even better. Because you remember last year. Yeah, we'll be gonna be even better. Hey, and they got two other guys. They got star Rashad. Aren't they French?
Tom Yamas
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Joe Johnson
Listen, one thing about it, France, we not gonna let them have basketball. That ain't happening. I don't care how good they gotten. I don't care how much they've improved. Now soccer, now they gonna be this event. They not gonna be this in soccer. And now you talk about now they're gonna be this in basketball. Now that ain't gonna happen. They go, they're gonna have to pick. They. We, we're gonna have to pick a struggle and our struggle in soccer. Right now, when it comes to playing France, they ain't gonna be just in basketball, too. That ain't happening. I'm 79, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Since 2017, NBA Finals, there have been a former Washington wizard that have won the NBA Finals every year. The Pacers have one former wizard on their roster, while the Thunder have zero. So it goes. 2017, it was Sean Livingston and JaVale McGee. 18, Sean Livingston, JaVale McGee. In 2019, it was Jody Meeks. In 2020, it was Dwight Howard, JaVale McGee, Marquis Morris. In 21, it was Bobby Porters. In 2022, it was Gary Payton II, Otto Porter Jr. And Chris Chisel. And 2023, it was Caldwell Polk, Jeff Green, Ish Smith and Thomas Bryant. In 24, it was Christopher Zingas. In 25 is Thomas Bryant.
Tom Yamas
NBA.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay, guys, I've seen. I was trending all day. And so let's. Let's talk about it. Nicki Minaj featured your boy in her latest song, banned from no. With the line, if I send a pic of Shannon, you ain't that sharp. Last night she tweeted. That's what she said. Ocho almost caught her. Strizzy. Just by being around your crazy tail self.
Joe Johnson
Almost caught a straight. Nah, Nikki. That's my dog, man. What you talking about? What she talking about? What happened?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Here's the. This is what happened. Ocho, talk to me. You know, I used to go back and forth with people.
Joe Johnson
Yeah?
Tom Yamas
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And I was talking about Nikki Haley. Nikki Haley says something. Do we do. We couldn't find it. We don't have to. But anyway, we were talking about Nikki Haley. Nikki Haley says it's really great for everybody. Of black Americans. And I'm like, when has it ever been? When has it ever been great for Nikki? When has it ever been great? And somebody tweeted. So I'm talking about Nikki Haley, right? So somebody said, nikki really wants to come on your podcast. How am I supposed to talk to podcast? I talked about Nikki Haley, right? I'm like, nikki who? It'll be like, ocho, hey, man, hey. Unknow about them sports?
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
People gonna say, unc who, right? It might be Snoop Dogg. It might be me.
Joe Johnson
So wait, this is a whole misunderstanding.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But she thought I was. I'm like, I'm talking about. I'm going. I'm tweeting back and forth. We talking about Nikki Haley. Somebody out of the blue talking about. I'm like, why the hell, nigga? I'm thinking, nikki who? Nikki Haley. Want to come on my podcast?
Tom Yamas
Why?
Joe Johnson
Oh, see?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
See what she got to say.
Joe Johnson
Oh, see, this is a complete misunderstanding. So, ma' am, I gotta text my sis, man, and tell her, man, listen, sis uncle ain't mean no, no, no foul, no no, no harm. Like, it was the middle of the.
Tom Yamas
You gotta get. You gotta get on here, Ocho.
Joe Johnson
I got you. That's my.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What I do, people. Every time I introduce myself to somebody, yes, sir. They can be a celebrity, entertainment, entertainer or whatever, athlete, whatever case may be, or somebody just random. I always introduce myself. Right. I'm Shannon Sharp.
Joe Johnson
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. They laugh. Ash and Jordan laugh every time. And people tell me, I know who you are. I'm not arrogant enough to think that everybody does know who I am. Okay with that being said. Look, if somebody would have told me, shannon, you gonna be in a rap song, I was like, who gonna rap about. I damn sure wouldn't have thought it was gonna be Nicki Minaj putting me.
Joe Johnson
In a rap song.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And I damn sure didn't wanna be in one like this.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, that was the night. Hey, that was a nice little bar, though, huh? That was a nice little bar.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Let me take the time now, Nikki, it was not. I was not trying to be disrespectful. Of course I know who you are. I would be remiss to say that I thought you knew who I was. Or do you know anything about Club Shay Shay? I'm not that arrogant. I mean, I'm surprised when people like. When people's like Katt Williams. That's. I mean, when people say Club Shay Shay, the first thing, next thing out of their mouth is Katt Williams. Yes. I'm Shannon Sharpe. I did Club Shay Shay, but it wasn't meant as a disrespect. I wasn't like, yes, I know who you are. But I've been going back and forth. We've been talking about Nikki Haley.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So I'm just trying to figure out how do we. You know, I'm supposed to be like all of a sudden, man. Nicki Minaj. Yeah. So, Nikki, hey, I apologize. I admit, no disrespect. You always have an open invitation. If you ever want to come sit down and have a conversation. Even if you just want to have a private conversation on the phone or something, it won't go any further between you and I leaving it like that. But I didn't meant any disrespect.
Joe Johnson
We apologize, sis. Huh? I apologize to you because I was on quarter straight. Shoot. I'm sorry. I ain't even do nothing wrong.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm sorry.
Joe Johnson
I'm sorry to the barbs too. You gotta apologize to the barbs.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Who?
Joe Johnson
You can't just apologize to Nikki. You gotta apologize to the whole congregation. It's like, we ain't church.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But she say, you almost, but you didn't catch one.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But like I said, when they said Nikki, I'm like, you know. Cause I'm talking about Nikki Haley. We've been talking about Nikki Haley for the last three, four minutes. And then somebody. I'm supposed to automatically assume somebody say, another Nicki. I'm supposed to automatically assume that that's Nicki Minaj. Now we've been talking about music. Okay, Nicki Minaj.
Joe Johnson
Who's the.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Who's the. The Brett, the greatest female rapper of all time. But we go with Nicki Minaj. Okay, Nicki want to come on the show? Well, I'm automatically saying, okay, Nicki Minaj. Okay. Oh, yeah, let her come on. But I'm talking about Nikki Haley and that bull drive. She said, yeah. So like I said, I Didn't mean any. I didn't mean any. I didn't mean any disrespect, and obviously, clearly you took it that way, so I apologize. Nikki. That was not my intent. I thought they were talking about. I thought the person was talking about Nikki Haley, and I was more like, nikki who? Why the hell she want to come on my pod? She ain't gonna come on my part talking about spreading them lies.
Joe Johnson
As a matter of fact, hell yeah. Again, I'm apologize too. I'm apologizing too, because I'm a part of the show, so I almost caught her straight, but I don't no smoke. Matter of fact, I told you, I apologize to the barbs too. You got to apologize to the congregation.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You got everybody. I apologize. Well, look, it's the same thing like when I said that. When I said, you know, we was joking. Oo. And I said that about Meg the Stallion. Yeah, Meg came on. I got an opportunity. I apologize because like I said, I said, I said it in Jess.
Tom Yamas
We.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We were just like. And, okay, fine. She took it like that. Okay, that's not how. You know, I was just joking. But like I said, I'm mad enough. If I offended you, that's the way you took it. I ain't got no. With that. I apologize.
Joe Johnson
Hey, I'm gonna make. Don't worry about it. I'm gonna make that call. Do you understand what Nikki could do for us, boy, if we get the queen?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, for sure.
Joe Johnson
You talking about the creed of rap, huh? That's historic. What we talking about? Come on now. Hey, if Nick, come on.
Tom Yamas
If Nikki.
Joe Johnson
Come on, I'm coming. And I'm wearing all. I'm. I'm coming, I'm coming. I'm definitely. I want me a picture. I want me an autograph.
Tom Yamas
Man.
Joe Johnson
Man, stop playing. You know, I don't get excited by nobody, but we get Nikki to come on the show. What we talking about, man?
Tom Yamas
Right?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So. So, Nikki, I apologize sincerely. Me. That was not my intent. But intent only matters to me because clearly you still offended. So I apologize sincerely, and hopefully we can move forward. Like I said, you have an open invitation anytime that you'd like to come on Club Shay Shay, we would love to have you, even if you just want to have a conversation with me. And like I said, that conversation will not go any further than what you and I. And I would like to apologize to you in person, either on Club Shay show or in a conversation. So no harm. I didn't mean any harm by it.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, that's my dog. You're gonna be good. You know, we. That's my dog. We follow each other. We've been family, you know, back, you know, no Lil Wayne and, you know, man, we here. I ain't know y' all had no issues, so.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I didn't know either.
Joe Johnson
Hey, listen, I didn't know either.
Tom Yamas
And it was Trinity.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, somebody sent it to me. I'm not on social media like that because the collabs. I turned my social media over to Jordan, let him handle it moving forward. But, you know, I'm gonna get back on there eventually. But, you know, right now, you know, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, don't worry about it. Hey, take your time because we gonna be here waiting for you. We gonna be here. I'm gonna be there. Hi, Zoe Saldana.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Thanks. And here's my old phone to trade in.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
There's always a trade in.
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Joe Johnson
I feel like I have to give.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You something in return for karma.
Shannon Sharpe
That's okay.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't really have much in my purse. Oh, let's see. Hand sanitizer. It's lavender.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm good. Seriously.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Let me check this pocket. Oh, mints.
Shannon Sharpe
Really, I'm fine.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, I have raisins. I'm a mom. Wait, wait one sec. I've got cupcakes in the car.
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Future Health weight loss data based on independent studies sponsored by Future Health Future Health is not a health care services provider. Meds are prescribed at provider's discretion. We will get out of here on this. It's time for our final statement of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Oreo hoodlum says we call him Haliband. Not the moment. Haliband ain't gonna sell. It sounds too much. It sounds too much like the other group that was over in Africa. It's not gonna sell. Now if he wants something that you can market the moment, he can market. Just like the truth, huh? Yeah. I mean, hey, that's fine, but in a name, it needs to be marketability. So you. You tell me, who gonna wear. Who gonna wear Haliband shirts? I mean, I want you to tell me. Unless he does it himself. Tell me Nike or tell me Puma or whomever.
Joe Johnson
He's none of that. You can't market that, Uncle. You can't sell that product. It doesn't make it now for us culturally, you know, you like it. Halle Band. I mean, it's cool from a culture perspective. Now, globally, you can't. You can't market that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Now the moment.
Joe Johnson
Now that. That's commercials. Shirts, shorts.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Thank you.
Joe Johnson
You know, thank you. You can, you can move product with that, huh?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes.
Joe Johnson
It's like having Blue Magic. Don't mess with Blue Magic.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The moment. I mean, the truth. Paul Pierce. Everybody know who that is. Everybody. Mamba. Something like you say. You say mamba. Chef Steph.
Tom Yamas
Hey, look, Halle, keep playing like this, boy. That moment of take off.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yes, yes. Hallie Burton, embrace the moment. Yeah, go ahead and make you some money off that thing, bro.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Mufasa Sports Club said OKC rattled when they were down in crunch moments. They better come guns blazing next game. They blew so many teams in the regular season. They haven't faced tight game situation until tonight. You know, they had, you know, they had a tough situation. What was that? The Nuggets. But for the most part, you know, they, they won that close game, but then they get them in game seven and they blew them out. It's. Look, blowouts are nice, but, man, you really want to be battle tested because you want to know that when you get in that moment, Ocho and Joe.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You can dig down and dig your way up out of it. I think they're going to be fine, but they definitely need to come out and play a complete 48 minutes in game four.
Joe Johnson
They're not gonna be fine, but I hear you.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I love.
Joe Johnson
Hey, listen. I love the confidence. I love the confidence.
Tom Yamas
Get it together quick, huh? They got to get it together.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Him. Who's the best trash talker on this panel?
Tom Yamas
It's got to be one of y' all.
Joe Johnson
This is the difference when he talk about this panel. I'm the best trash talking talker in sports in general. In general.
Tom Yamas
Can't nobody mess with you.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What I'm. Everybody know. I'm the lift barn champ. I'm 500 and zero.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Joe. Joe. You gotta understand, I went way past just talking. I went way past just talking. I talked to the media. I talked to you in your face. I send you team gifts. I send you presents. Like it's different. There's levels to trash talk.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
I just send stuff to people houses.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho. Ocho. I crawled so. I crawled so you could walk.
Joe Johnson
But we played it wrong. We played at the same time. How you gonna crawl with me.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I know. I. I'm. I got a guy suspended. I had a coach quit, resign. Don't do that on Cho. You better check my resume.
Joe Johnson
We played at the same time.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Talking about, man, when you got. When you got in the league. I was in year 12. I played two more years after you got the league. You played another 10 years after I left. Kipper Norwood Jr say, Joe, my question is, could you see Cat, KD and Ant on the same team next season? I would like to see him in Houston or San Antonio.
Tom Yamas
Oh, yeah, I can see him in Ant. On the same favorite player. Yeah, it's his favorite player. Now they gonna have to probably give up one of Ant's favorite player, which is probably McDaniels or somebody.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I can.
Tom Yamas
I can definitely see it. I can definitely see it. And I think it'd be a great. A great match. Them two together, man, they. Hey, that'll be box office. Okay.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay. KD and Drew Randall still there.
Tom Yamas
You probably have. Yeah, Randall or what's the backup? Nas Reed. They probably gonna get rid of Rudy, but, yeah, I can see him and Aunt teaming up together.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I can see it, too. Yeah, we know Houston got the pieces. We know San Antonio got the pieces. I mean, there's only a handful of team that got the pieces that can do a straight up. Now, like GP was saying, you're gonna probably have to get other teams involved, a couple of teams, two, three teams, maybe even four teams involved. Because, you know, it's not just good enough to get, you know, players. You don't want draft capital to replace the capital that you gave up to get kd. That's why Phoenix. Phoenix ain't got no draft picks till damn near 2030. 2032. Right.
Tom Yamas
So, you know, with San Antonio having a number two pick, you know, they got some good assets and Houston, so it ain't gonna surprise me if he go to either one of those teams.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I wouldn't be surprised either. Flex said, what would y' all do if LT or Trent Williams did what DeMarcus Cousins did to y' all on the football field? Joe, what if that was Phil Jackson?
Tom Yamas
What if that was Phil Jackson?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Look, guys, you gotta understand, the football player's mentality is a little different than like everybody else. Cause we. It's macho y macho. That disrespectful A. You might take one. But, hey, you ain't gonna let nobody disrespect you like that, man. No, I don't know. You see y' all looking at it from a Spot, man, they bigged it, man. Look here, man. You pick up something with five pound weight, the hell. But it bust hell out of somebody. Nah, I ain't nobody go. Ain't nobody going for that. You're not gonna scratch over and put them in my. And put them in my face, man, please.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Like I say, hey, one thing. We.
Tom Yamas
We.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Look, if you want to call the fight, be disrespectful to some. It.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Matter of fact, you don't even have to go to that extent. Fights don't even happen. Things don't even. It's not even that serious in fight stars.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Man. Shoot. They might not be able to break that one up.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nope.
Tom Yamas
Not. It was a good thing they was able to hold him back, man. But, man, I've never seen fans throw drinks like that. I'm talking about. Nobody get kicked out or nothing. It was just like. Like they was just letting him have it. Like, even. They wasn't even spinning. They just tell them to be cool, but I'm like, man, I never seen.
Joe Johnson
You gotta understand. You gotta understand.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Lt wasn't the fighter, though. Now, we saw Trent. We saw Trent and Richard Sherman get into it. I think that might have been Sherm's rookie year. Yeah, but lt. Lt wasn't. And, you know, back then, they let you fight. They let you fight back then.
Tom Yamas
You think one of them dudes don't get out of character like that, though. Okay, I'm Joe.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, that wasn't. That wasn't that. Like I said. LT was. Look. LT had them bust up your quarterback. You try to get off the field, you just, like, the last thing I want to do is make that man mad so he kill the hell out the backup quarterback because he probably knocked the start out of the game. It's a good thing back then you had three quarterbacks on the roster because. LT was. They were knocking quarterbacks out. Sheldon Pope said, ocho, who do you have? Canelo or Bud?
Joe Johnson
Oh, that's a good one. Listen, as much as I love. I love.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Is that fight gonna be in Vegas.
Joe Johnson
It's in Riyadh. Yeah. Yeah, it's a.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
This is.
Joe Johnson
Sorry. The Cards are gonna be dope. It's a really, really good car.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, it's gonna be in Riyadh. So it's over in Saudi Arabia. It's.
Joe Johnson
It's in Vegas, but it's on the Riyadh car. It's called a Riyadh. Riyadh.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, Riyadh.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, I'm going with Bud. I'm going with Bud.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm going for Bud, too.
Joe Johnson
I love.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I want to go to the fight.
Joe Johnson
Huh?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I want to go to the fight.
Joe Johnson
You for real? Yeah, yeah. I don't want to go to the fight. I like watching the fight from home. I want to see the fight actually develop round by round. I want to see. I want to see him be able to.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You can see the fight develop right there with your own two eyes.
Joe Johnson
You can't. I mean, not being there. People all in the way screaming like, I like peace.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What it being away at? No. Well, not my seats. Oh, my bad.
Tom Yamas
Hey, what's the best fight y' all went to? What's the best fight y' all been to?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I actually, I was in. I was with Bud when he fought Earl Spence. Oh, you were there? I was there, yeah. I saw. Who else? I saw fight. I saw Tyson fight Frank Bruno. I seen a couple of Mayweather fights. Early. Early on. Mayweather fight. Yeah.
Tom Yamas
I seen Mayweather fight Ricky Hatton.
Shannon Sharpe
That was.
Joe Johnson
That was a good fight, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He beat the brakes off.
Tom Yamas
Hat man, I'm talking about. Beat him into the turnbuckle.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I saw a couple of fights in New York. Who.
Tom Yamas
I saw.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I saw a Holyfield fight like three times in New York.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I don't think people. You. You. I mean, I don't like going to fights, man. If you.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
If it's a buzz, though, man, when you.
Joe Johnson
I've been. I've been in one. I see. I've been watching. Watch the Charlo Twins fight. I've been to an Agent Broner fight. You gotta think. You gotta think. I've been watching boxing since Adrian Boner was way back at the fairgrounds, Way back in the day, just back when I was playing in Cincinnati when they, you know, fight. Hell, I seen. Goddamn. The Bronze Bomber.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, oh. Dante Wilder.
Joe Johnson
Deontay Water fight back in Cincinnati, before he was a pro, way back in the day on the fairgrounds in Cincinnati. So I've been watching fights for a very long time, but now that I know and understand what I'm looking for, what you're looking for, I like watching it from home and watching everything develop round by round. It's more than just throwing punches. I think the cavalry.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Joe Johnson
I wouldn't understand that, but I like to watch things develop that way and see the sweet sciences, the sweet science itself play out on tv.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I guess we ain't going to the fight. I said, I guess we're not Going to the fight, then?
Joe Johnson
Oh, you, oh, you were saying that for me to come to the, to get you tickets. To get tickets or something.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, I can get ticket, but like I said, you know, that's gonna be a Saturday night. You know, we got, we know we got nightcap.
Joe Johnson
Hey, maybe, maybe we can get Turkish Ali to come on.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay.
Joe Johnson
I mean, you know, I ain't nothing but a phone call to make. You know, I'm sure he would love to sit down and be a part of Nightcap and talk about what he's doing for boxing here in the States and how he improve it and get the people the fights they want to see.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Mike Brown. Ocho, you got to slide to a Panthers game tomorrow. We going back to back.
Joe Johnson
Okay, okay. Hey, we got a show tomorrow. No, okay, I'm. Hey, matter of fact, if you got an extra ticket, I go to the Panthers game with you. What you try?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What did they play? Oh, oh, they play Saturday, right?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, we play.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
When do the, the game? The game four Saturday. I think it's Friday. Oh, yeah, we go. We got a show tomorrow. Oh, oh, we got a show tomorrow, Ocho. We got a show Thursday and Friday. We off Saturday.
Joe Johnson
Well, we, you, you travel. You going to south of France, too?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No.
Joe Johnson
Okay. I, I, I leave for the south of France.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Huh?
Tom Yamas
What you got going on?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, me, Joe. Joe and I go hold this thing down for game five. Yeah.
Joe Johnson
What? Saturday? Yeah, I could be on. I'm taking my equipment with me. What you talking about?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You're gonna be. It's gonna be 4am you just be getting there. You ain't gonna be up.
Joe Johnson
I got a job to do. Don't do that. Don't do that. I'm dedicated. You hear me?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. I'm gonna be Frankie L. Bellamy. Hey, fam, what's one thing you've never. That never ceases to amaze you like no other? Like, no matter how old you get or how much you've seen, it still makes you stop and say, wow.
Joe Johnson
Ass.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho lying. He gotta cut it out, man.
Tom Yamas
You know, you already know it. Somebody gotta hold him accountable.
Joe Johnson
What did I lie about?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Your name ain't OO just. You were born in six.
Joe Johnson
I. I promise you. Listen, everything, everything, everything I do and I talk about Joe, and it's always from experience. And, and the American people need to understand that anything I say is based on past experiences and things that I've been through in life. That's the only thing I can speak on. I can't speak on nothing. I've never experienced or nothing. That's never happened to me. That was. That in itself. Now that's a lot.
Tom Yamas
You say experience is the best teacher.
Joe Johnson
And I've been through.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So.
Joe Johnson
I've been through some, man.
Tom Yamas
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I've been through some. Doc. Thanks for the early birthday gift. I don't know if it's birthday, Father's Day, but I got it. I appreciate that. I mean, look, when you. I think when you come from the backgrounds that we come from and you see where we've been able to get to, I still think about like, damn. You know, I walk around in my house, I'm like, damn. I mean, my house will fit in my bedroom, my bathroom and my closet. My old house would fit in that.
Tom Yamas
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And I'm like, this is my life now. Yeah, man.
Tom Yamas
You gotta pinch yourself sometimes.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You do.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I know.
Tom Yamas
I know the feeling. Trust me.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm like, man, this don't seem real if. You know, I remember when my grandmother came to my house in Atlanta. I mean, she was just like. She just like, she just couldn't believe it. Like, Lib, I never thought I was. I've never thought I'd live to see something like this.
Tom Yamas
Same look every, every holiday, every Christmas, Thanksgiving. Uncle Ocho Mat should have over 20 something people in my house. My family, mom, grandma, uncles, nephew, I mean, cousins. Like we used to be packed in there, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know what I mean?
Tom Yamas
Like, that was the thing that was routine for us, you know what I mean? Like, we had never experienced that when.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I was a kid.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Tom Yamas
Everybody goes from my house on Christmas, you know, but to all be under one roof, spend the night under one.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Roof, you know, feel comfortably happy, man.
Tom Yamas
Yeah. Come on, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I mean, I mean, really, we could sit. I could probably feed at the bar, at the other table. And the other table. I probably could feed 16, 18 people at once. Yeah. Woo.
Joe Johnson
Boy, you got. You a little junior high boy, you got. Yes.
Tom Yamas
Hey, bless the highly favorite man.
Joe Johnson
He never lied.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And, and, and the thing is, O Joe.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
God is still good, bad or indifferent. Because a lot of times when you know people, when you go through stuff, talk about, man, I don't believe in God. Guess what? Yeah. I believed in what I had on everything. When I got from where I got to where I am now, I believed in him. So now is he not God in good and in bad? Absolutely.
Joe Johnson
Yes, sir.
Tom Yamas
Right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All the cars that's in the garage. The. What I'm able to do, the way I'm able to help my family, help people he's still him and I still believe. Absolutely. That's not gonna change. Absolutely.
Tom Yamas
Tough people do, baby.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. My partner and co host, Liberty City's own bingo ring of fame artery. That's the Pro Bowler All Pro, Chad Ochocinko Johnson and the third member of the team, Nightcap. Breaking down this game tonight at The Indiana Pacers win 116, 107 is the guy from Little Rock, Arkansas, Arkansas alum, that's ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button and we want to send a special thank thank you GP for joining us. We look forward to having you back. If we get to a game six or game seven, come back and break it down with us. We appreciate that. Please make sure you hit the subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button. Guys, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We can't thank each and every one of you enough because without you, we're nothing. All the awards that you see behind myself and Ocho is because of you. Word of mouth, your ears and your eyes. Thank you so much because we've been able to get to places we never thought we would go and that's all because of you. So we can't thank you enough. We appreciate your support and your continued support. Please make sure you check out Shave by laportier. We have it in stock. If you can't find it in a city or state near you, we're coming to that city or state very, very soon. Order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. The best tasting premium cognac on the market. Don't take my word for it. Try it. You will not be disappointed. Go follow my media company page on all of its platforms. Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With the link 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat. Supplies are limited and once they're gone, they're gone. So please grab yours while supplies last. The Indiana Pacers take a 21 lead over the OKC Thunder 116 to 107 thanks to Tyrese Halliburton had a almost triple double. 22 points, 11 assists, nine rebounds. But it was Benedict Matheran off the bench 22 minutes, 27 points, four rebounds, one assist a block. He was fabulous. They got 49 points from their bench. TJ McConnell was TJ McConnell. He had 10 points. Obi Topping at eight points. Shepherd had four points. They had 21 from Siakam, 22 from I mentioned from Halliburton as they win 116 to 107. Take a 21 lead. Game four Friday night. Will they be up 31 or will it be 2 2? Headed back to OKC. I'm up. He's Ocho. That's ISO. Thank you guys for joining us. We'll see you tomorrow night.
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He's out.
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Club Shay Shay Episode Summary: "Nightcap - Hour 2: Iso, Ocho, and Iso Joe React"
Release Date: June 12, 2025
In the second hour of the "Nightcap" episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe joins co-hosts Chad "Ocho" Ochocinco Johnson and ISO Joe Johnson for an engaging discussion filled with sports insights, personal anecdotes, and lively banter. This episode delves into potential matchups, recent NBA controversies, coaching dynamics, and even touches on unexpected pop culture moments, all while maintaining a humorous and relatable tone.
The conversation kicks off with Chad Ochocinco Johnson expressing enthusiasm about a potential one-on-one fight between ISO Joe Johnson and former NBA player Michael Beasley. The hosts debate the feasibility, financial aspects, and the excitement such a matchup would generate.
Notable Quotes:
A significant portion of the discussion centers around a recent altercation involving NBA coach Boogie Udoka. The incident, where Boogie was involved in a heated confrontation with a fan, led to his contract termination. The hosts analyze the situation, emphasizing the importance of self-control and the repercussions of such actions on a professional career.
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The trio shifts focus to the New York Knicks' ongoing search for a new head coach. They discuss the challenges the Knicks face in securing experienced candidates, mentioning several high-profile coaches that have yet to be granted interview access. The conversation highlights the Knicks' high expectations and the difficulty in meeting them with suitable coaching talent.
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The hosts explore future prospects for the U.S. Men's Basketball team, referencing a social media graphic predicting the 2028 roster. They debate the realism of the predictions, considering the rising talent in international basketball and the evolving dynamics of the sport.
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A humorous segment arises when Chad Ochocinco Johnson recounts a social media misunderstanding involving a mention of Nikki Haley, which was misconstrued as a reference to rapper Nicki Minaj. This mix-up leads to unexpected shout-outs and apologies on the show, showcasing the hosts' ability to navigate and diffuse awkward situations with humor.
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Towards the end of the episode, the hosts share personal reflections on their journeys to success. They discuss the disbelief of family members witnessing their achievements and the importance of gratitude and humility despite their prominence in the sports world.
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The "Nightcap - Hour 2" episode of Club Shay Shay offers a captivating blend of sports analysis, candid conversations, and light-hearted moments. Shannon Sharpe, Chad Ochocinco Johnson, and ISO Joe Johnson provide listeners with insightful perspectives on current NBA events, potential high-stakes matchups, and personal stories that resonate with fans. Their chemistry and dynamic interactions make for an engaging listen, ensuring that both sports enthusiasts and casual fans find something to enjoy in this episode.
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