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Shannon Sharpe
Hey, we got a very, very special guest joining us. Six times WWE champ, a two time W Univer, WWE Universal champ, two time WWE champ, two time Heavyweight Championship. Here he is, ladies and gentlemen, the revolutionary, the architect, Seth Rollins.
Seth Rollins
How are you? What's going on?
Shannon Sharpe
I'm doing good. How are you doing?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
That was good.
Seth Rollins
I got, I got the gold on my shoulder, man. I'm feeling great. How you guys doing, man, we're doing amazing.
Shannon Sharpe
Thanks for joining us.
Seth Rollins
Hey, thank you boys, for having me, man. Good to see you again. Ocho Cinco.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yes, sir. I love you, baby. Listen, before we start, before we get serious, before we talk about wrestling, I have one question, sir. What are the chances? What are the chances you and I, we do a match? Because I always, I listen, I've been a wrestling fan since I was a little kid, and I just. I just would love to share the ring with you and, and just whatever happens, happens.
Seth Rollins
Oh, hey, man, you. You put your mind to it. You get down, you get training, you get going. I'm always available, my friend. We are working 52 weeks a year. We are on 24 7. Anytime you need a title shot, you let the people at WWE know. I got you back, man. Let's do it. I'd love to do the thing.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
We don't. We don't have to do it in front of the world. We don't have to do it in front of the world, you know, I don't want.
Colin Coward
Oh, that's the fun.
Seth Rollins
That's the fun, man. Come on, don't be shy now.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Let me, Let me put on £20 more first.
Shannon Sharpe
Let me put on.
Seth Rollins
Deal? Deal, Seth.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, obviously universal, you guys. I was talking to a lot of wrestlers and they say the, the. The travel and all the things that you guys go through. When did you know, like, you know what? I really got the hang of this thing. I'm gonna do this.
Seth Rollins
Oh, man. Well, I mean, it was my dream since I was a little kid, so. Really? Yeah, Yeah. I loved professional wrestling. I fell in love with it at a super young age, about 14 or so. My friends and I started doing it in our backyard, right? And to me, that was when I got the knack for performing. That's when I. We would invite our friends from school, they'd come watch us on the trampolines. The who and I got the knack for performing there. I really got, like, an itch for it. And I thought, well, you know what? Why not, why not give it a shot? You know what I mean? Why not let it go?
Shannon Sharpe
Right? So you had. You went through the training facility down in Orlando.
Seth Rollins
So I trained. I've been wrestling for a long time before I started training in Orlando. I signed with WWE in 2000. Gosh. Would have been. Would have been 2000-1110-2010-2009, maybe 2010, I believe. I signed with WWE and from there I went down to. Actually was in Tampa at the time. It was in a little warehouse. It wasn't this beautiful training facility that we have down in Orlando now. But yeah, man, I suffered in a warehouse in Tampa for a couple of years, sweat it out. Grinded my way up the ranks in NXT and made my debut in WWE in 2010. 12, and the rest is history.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
That's dope. Hey, Seth, how long did it take you to get comfortable in front of the fans? You know, being able to engage, obviously, wrestling, being able to perform, but also have that. Have that savviness to make sure the fans are always engaged?
Seth Rollins
I mean, it's such a work in progress, man. You know, I said I got the knack for it when I was really young. And then you just, you learn and you get a little bit better each time you go out there, you know, and then everything starts to slow down, you know? You know how it is when you're playing football, right? The more reps you get and more time you get against these defenses, everything just slows down. You're. It feels like you're moving at warp speed and they're moving in slow motion, you know, and that's sort of what it felt like for me. Gosh, I suppose I really hit like a flow state probably like a decade in, maybe, I would say, like 10 years into doing. Doing this thing. And then. And every year since then, it's just kind of gotten better and better and better.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
We had your boss on Triple H, and he was telling us that, yeah, wrestling is one aspect of it, but you got to be really good with this thing in your hand because you got to get the fact you got, you gotta, you got. You got to win the fans over. You gotta, you. You got to make the fans have a vested interest in you. Good, bad, you could be the heel, it doesn't matter. But the fans need to know my Seth is our guy.
Seth Rollins
Yeah, Yeah. I mean, look, it's, it's. It's storytelling at its Core. That's what we do. You know, it's storytelling. It's. It's heroes and vill, and it's a lot of fun. And honestly, that microphone you got in front of you, man, that. That was the hardest part for me. That was the part that it took. Yeah. It took me the longest time to figure out how to feel comfortable holding the microphone, standing out there. I mean, it. It is not an easy thing to stand in front of 10, 15, 20,000 people, live in front of millions on television by yourself with a microphone and keep people captivated and interested. That is a hard task. And I would say there are less than 20 guys in our industry that can do that. Well, you know, right now. Right now, you know, all time, that number expands a little bit, but it is a small percentage. And in my opinion, it is what separates the good ones from the great ones.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
And then speaking, speaking of being in front of 15, 20,000, having the mic, when it comes to whatever you're going to say, has there ever been a time where you had to just go from the top of the head because you forgot exactly what your lines might have been at that time?
Seth Rollins
So the thing. So the thing about pro wrestling is that it's not fully scripted. It's. It's. It's this amazing interplay that you get with a live audience. And so. And so there is a. There are bullet points and there's ideas, and there are major plots that you want to kind of weave through your. Your story, but you don't know what the live crowd is going to give you. A prime example of that this past Monday on Netflix. I'm in the ring. It's my wife and myself. We're setting up for this big match at Rest of Palooza coming up this Saturday in Indy, which I'm sure we'll get to talk about, but I'm in the r. The ring. CM Punk, his wife, AJ Lee, on the other side of the ring. But the crowd in Springfield, Massachusetts, was going nuts. They were. They were chanting all sorts of wacky. Anything you could think of. They were chanting constipated at one point. Constipated. And that's a real thing. And you have to react to stuff like that in real time, so you've got to be able to flow. You know, you can't just stick to what you've got if it's not working or if they want to take you in a different direction. That's. That's the magic of it, man. That's the fun of it.
Shannon Sharpe
And so you just go along with it. You right? Cause he's full of. You know what? If you think he gonna beat me, he is absolutely constipated.
Seth Rollins
See, you get it. You get it, you understand? You got it, man. You gotta knock for it. Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
So let me ask, let me what, so what. What exactly is Wrestle Palooza?
Seth Rollins
So Wrestle Palooza is going to be our first essentially pay per view or what we call Premium Live event in our partnership with ESP.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, okay.
Seth Rollins
On it. We're launching one right now, September 20th, Saturday, this coming Saturday from Indianapolis, Indiana. And it's going to be our first major live event, Premium Live event on the ESPN app. And so we're pretty stoked on it. It's going to be huge. We got, you know, I mentioned the tag team match, myself and my wife against CM Punk and his wife. You got Brock Lesnar versus John Cena. You got Cody Rhodes versus Drew McIntyre. You've got a hell of a card going into this first one. So it's going to be a banger, man.
Shannon Sharpe
I like it.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I like it.
Shannon Sharpe
So SummerSlam, Wrestle Palooza are the only thing between Wrestle Palooza is that this is a pay per view. Other than that, SummerSlam, a WrestleMania, all those are really the same thing. But Wrestle Palooza, this is the first pay per view thing that's going to be on your new partner with ESPN.
Seth Rollins
Exactly. It's just like WrestleMania. It's just like SummerSlam. It's. We just did Clash in Paris not long ago. It's just like that. We've been partners with Peacock for the past five years. They've been incredible partners in our pay per view streaming service, but we're moving to espn and this is the inaugural Pay per View Premium Live event for WWE crossover with espn.
Shannon Sharpe
How much longer, Seth? How much longer do you want to do this? You're going to go until. Because you know, look, there ain't no, there's no old timers league in wrestling. Once it's done, it's done. And then you go off with the wife and I don't know if you have kids. And then you, you do what you do. So how much longer? Because even though, look, we know it's entertainment, it's scripted, you still take those falls, you still fall a story, you still get flipped out of the ring and land on pavement, you landing on chairs. So that's a toll on your body. We had Shawn Michaels, we had Shawn Michaels, we had to undertake on. And I've done Ric Flair and I've talked to John Cena. And it is a toll on your body. Those flips after 10, 15, 20 years, they start to accumulate. Seth?
Seth Rollins
Yeah, man, I've been at it for 22 years now. I started in, in 2003 and so I've been at it for 22 years. I've wrestled over two. And you're right, it takes its toll. Fortunately, I think our generation, you know, we have a lot more information available to us as far as prehab and rehab and recovery and what it takes to keep ourselves in shape athletically. And so we have an advantage in that regard, I think, a little bit. So, you know, I'm almost 40 years old right now. Like I said, I've been doing it for 22 years. I don't know, man. You know, I, I think the nice thing about our industry is it's, it's an entertainment, right? So you can do this for a little bit longer than your body might allow you to. You know, you, you, there are ways around and the older you get, the smarter you get and the more equity you have with our audience. And so you get a little, you get a little extra time, I think. So who knows, you know, I don't know if I want to do it into my 50s. I got a couple years left on my contract with wwe, but yeah, my daughter is four and a half, she's almost five and you know, I would, I wouldn't mind spending some extra time with her in a few years. So we'll see what happens. But I don't know, man, I love this business. I've given my entire life to it. It's given me a great life. I met my wife through this business. I have my daughter because I met my wife through this business. You know, I'm able to provide at my wrestling school down in Iowa, jobs for other people. I built a little mini empire out of this industry. So I imagine in some capacity I will stay involved one way or another for as long as I can.
Shannon Sharpe
As you mentioned, you guys know more and it seems like every generation, no matter what particular sport, guys get to have a little bit more knowledge, they're able to play a little bit longer. The nutrition, the training, the things of that nature, the physios to put the body back together. Talking to Rick, Rick said there's sometimes he would be wrestling three, four matches in a day. Yeah, and you know, he was on the road 300, 310 days a year. And you know, that's over and it wasn't like it is now. So he came up in the old, the old, old era. And so like you said, you know more now, you're smarter about it, you built up a little bit more equity. You're universally known where it was regional back then. You had Georgia Championship Wrestling, the Mid Atlantic, you had the Southwest, you had the, you know, the, the Midwest, you had the nwa, the awa, you know the awa. You had all these. It was so regional, it was hard to branch out. But now what your former boss, Vince McMahon was able to do, he was able to put everything up under one umbrella and make it universal. And so now you guys are, you guys are rock stars. You, like you said in Paris, you can go anywhere. You go anywhere in the country. And they know who Seth Rollins is.
Seth Rollins
Yeah, man. WWE is a global BL brand. You hit the nail on the head. We just announced not, not even a week ago, we're doing WrestleMania. Yep, exactly. We're going to Riyadh in 2027. So that'll be our first. Yeah, it's amazing. We've had a partnership with the athletic commission there in Saudi for the last six years, and this is a continuation of that. But we've been holding these pay per views and premium live events internationally now, really heavy for the last few years. And it's really incredible to see the response. Like I said, we were just in Paris. We've done Scotland and England. I think we're going back to Italy next year. Premium live event. We're heading down to Perth, Australia to do another big event here in October. I mean, WWE is absolutely a global brand. Anywhere we go on the planet, we are some of the most recognizable athletes because we're on TV as well with this, you know, right here. We ain't got the helmet, you know what I mean?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, exactly.
Seth Rollins
No face, man. It's right here all the time. You know, this is where you make your money. So. Yeah, we are, we're a special breed, man. And we do it like I said, 365 year round. Rick ain't lying when, when he says you're on the road 300 days a year, you are, you are traveling, man. My sky miles are through the roof, you know?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah. Hey, you get when you and you and the Mrs. Go on vacation. Hey, you like, hey, everything paid for.
Seth Rollins
The hotel to take care of, the.
Shannon Sharpe
Flight is taken care of. We got no points. We go eat anywhere we want to. Let your hair down.
Seth Rollins
You know it. You know it.
Shannon Sharpe
So. So, Seth, let me ask you this. When it comes time and the script is written and that Thing that's across your shoulders is going to have to change hands. How difficult is it for you to like, can I keep it another week? Can I keep it another month?
Seth Rollins
You know, I love being a champ, right? That's, that's the, that's the goal of the business. It's one of those things where, you know, it's not like a Super bowl trophy, where, you know, it's competitive athletic output that gets you to that point. It's one of those things where when, but when you have this, you are the top guy. You are, you are given the ball. This is your chance to run, it is your industry. And so when you have that title, you take pride in it. When you get into the business, this is what you want, this is what you work for, this is what you put in the long hours for the late night workouts, the long drives, all the injuries, everything. This is what you work for. So it's a little bittersweet because on the opposite end of that, there's no better feeling than giving your dance partner an incredible moment. So as many world championships as I've been on this end of, I've given five of them away, right? This is my sixth one, so I've given five of them away. And every single time it's been an incredible experience for me to give somebody else who's also put in that work that moment to see how they can carry the ball. So it's, in some ways, it's the ultimate team sport.
Shannon Sharpe
Is there a certain number of years that you have to wrestle before you get an opportunity to fight for that?
Seth Rollins
Nah, man, not at all. It's, it's one of those things where, you know, if you, if, if you're getting over, as they say in our business, if the people love you, if you're entertaining and the company feels like you can carry the flag, they'll give it to you, you know, they'll give you the ball. And there's a lot, a lot that goes into making that decision. But at the end, at the end of the day, man, it's, it's, you know, longevity and tenure and reliability is part of it. But hey, if you're hot and you're on fire and it feels like you can make a lot of money, it's a business. You're going to get that ball, you better run with it.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, you know what I'm thinking about? As busy as your guys schedule is, as much as you guys are on the road, obviously having a wife and kid, how do you find time to do other things that you might be passionate about outside of wrestling, or do you even have time to do that? What are some of the things that you enjoy outside of wrestling with the limited time that you do have to enjoy those things?
Seth Rollins
Well, boys, a couple of things that I love. One of them is football. I love football. It's one, it's my second passion, man. So this is a great segue for Mojo Cinco right there for me to tell you that. You know, I've joined the team at NFL Network, Good morning football for the season. And it's something that I've just always wanted to do, to sit down and talk about football.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Right?
Seth Rollins
And so I, I, and I've been just, I feel, I feel like I'm one of the people that if you want to make time for something in life, you will make time for it. You know, I'm not like asleep when you're dead, dude, but like, you know what I mean? Like, it's one of those things. If you want to do something you will make time for, you'll figure out how to make it work. So I got passions in football, so I'm excited to join that, that squad with Kyle Brandt and those guys for the season. Talk about how awful my Bears are all year long. And, and, and then on the other side of that, I really love coffee. So I've invested a lot of my time and money in a couple coffee shops that I have in Iowa. We've recently, my wife and I have invested in a coffee shop in Los Angeles called Dayglo. They got a few locations, Chicago, L.A. new York. And so coffee, football, wrestling, that's kind of my jam, man.
Shannon Sharpe
I like it. I like it. Well, that's, that's enough to keep you busy because you're on the road 200 plus days a year now. You got the, the morning show on NFL Network. That's, you know, until the football. See, I'm assuming you're gonna be on there until football season's over.
Seth Rollins
Yes, sir. Yeah, I'm there through the super bowl.
Shannon Sharpe
And, and you got your businesses outside and you got almost a 5 year old. So you, you, you got a lot on your plate, Seth.
Seth Rollins
Yeah, we're doing it, man. But hey, like, it's cliche, but you only live once, man. You know, get out there and make the best of it. So I feel like I'm a man to be able to get the opportunity to do all these things, to be a dad, to be a husband, to have a loving family, and to be able to Pursue all these adventures and just, you know, see. See where the chips fall, you know? I'm very lucky to be able to do that.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, you know, Seth, they say you only live once. And if you do it right, that's plenty.
Seth Rollins
Yes, sir, that's true. Ain't that the truth, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Thanks for coming on with us. Congratulations on all your success. Stay healthy. Hey, and come back and join us sometime.
Seth Rollins
Dude, I'd love to. Thank you boys for having me on. It's always great chatting with you. I appreciate it. Russell Palooza this Saturday. Get after it on espn.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you, Seth. Enjoy.
Seth Rollins
See you boys.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Man, that was dope, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, man. We didn't have somebody. So I'm trying to think who we haven't had on yet. I mean, I guess we got to get Roman Reigns. We got to get Cody Rose.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, we gotta get. Hey. Hey. What you think about me and. Me and Seth wrestling?
Shannon Sharpe
You don't know nothing about no wrestling.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Who don't? You as athletic as I am, I think that would be awesome.
Shannon Sharpe
You think so, huh?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Pick him up. Power driving.
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Shannon Sharpe
The Eagles got away with a false start in the Tush push Sunday against the Chiefs and the league office is trying to make sure that doesn't happen again. The league training video for officials, which also got shared with coaches and general managers, included video showing the Eagles fall starting and the instruction that the officials ensure the office isn't getting away with penalties on the Tush push. The training video made clear that the Eagles tush push should have never been blown dead before the snap. Should have been blown dead before the snap and the Eagle should have been backed up five yards. You can see the right guard moves early. You got a defender that's trying to punch the ball out. But more so we have a false start coming from the right guard. We want to make sure we officiate these these tight and make sure we that every aspect of the offensive team is legal in any movement and that's that's not correct. We want to shut it down as a false start. False start would be proper call here.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. The funny thing about it is not only did the right guard do it, the left guard does it too. The timing of when they do it. I'm not sure if anybody hits. Jalen must say something and when he says it they just take off before the ball is snap.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Left guard and the right guard do it every single time and the ref misses it. So now that it's been causing their attention, now they have to. They have to pause a second, wait for the snap, and then go.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, because it's the same thing. When those guards, those tackles on was. Was jump leaving the count. Was jumping the count on, off him. The NFL sent the training tape says, no, this is a false start. The jumping account.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Can I tell you something?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, go ahead.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Even with the referees paying attention to this and the. The two guards, the left and the right guard, having to wait a millisecond until the ball is slapped, snapped, they still ain't gonna stop the twist. I'm just being honest. They still ain't gonna stop it. You know, even with the complain and, and sending video and having GMs and referees look at it, they still not gonna stop it. You know, you can't unless you have an all a defensive line that is equivalent to that of the Eagles.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Oh, Joe. The Eagles are two and over. The offense has been less than impressive. They ranked 29th in total offense, 31st in passing. And Jalen Hurts five points. Six two yards per attempt is 24th. Hurt said. I take a lot of accountability for a lot of it and just how we go out, go out there, because that's my job. My job is to go out there and be the general, orchestrate everything and ultimately make plays. Hurts called expectations for defending the super bowl championship fair. The Eagles has only two pass plays of more than 15 yards. Johan Dodson caught a 51 yard pass and week one against Dallas. Devonte Smith a 28 yard against the Chiefs. Week two. Yeah, it's expectations. I mean, and the thing is, Jaylen's going to continue to play like this unless you can force him to throw the football and keep them out of second and short, third and short or fourth and short? You. Because right now they're playing. Still playing on their terms. Go ahead.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
And we talked about that earlier. We talked about earlier, too. In order for them to have to not play on their terms and they have to be behind. They got to be behind, you know, oh, we're going to run the ball first.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
And whatever you do defensively, we're going to take what you give us. We're not forcing no throws because we don't have to correct. That's not, that's not what they asked Jalen Hurst to do.
Shannon Sharpe
They're not.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
He's not dropping. He's not dropping back throwing the ball 50 times, 40 times a game. That's not what they do. And that formula works for them. That's why they got to ring in the goddamn trophy. So if you look at the stats, statistically, would you say they ranked 29th?
Shannon Sharpe
They ranked 29th in total offense, and they, like, ranked 31st in passing.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
It's only 31. It's only 32 teams in the NFL.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, there you go. There it is.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, but guess what they 2.02enough they're doing is working until they come across somebody that forces him to do with the Kansas City Chiefs, force them to do in the Super Bowl. 26 is not beating us. That's what Spagnoli said. 26 is not beating us. We put nine in the box, we gonna see if Jalen Hurford can throw. And what did Jalen Hurst do?
Shannon Sharpe
Threw. When he had you made plays, Got outside, made plays with his legs and he made plays. Yeah.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
So that, that, that, that lets you know he can do both when necessary. Not because we want to see it. Not because the media or the analysts or the people that saying, oh, Jalen Hurst is not top five. He's winning football games. That's what we play. We play to win the game. Like Herm Edwards says.
Shannon Sharpe
You're absolutely right, Ocho. You're absolutely right. And like you said right now. But I think they realize, because, see, the biggest mistake that you can make is to think you can win this year just how you won last year. Everybody's evolved. Everybody looks at you and they break you down. And when you win the championship, Ocho, everybody really breaks you down. And so you have to. You have to evolve. You have to get better, and, and, and, and there are certain little spine areas that you can improve in. And I'm not saying that you have to get. You know, all of a sudden, whatever you ranked last year, you got to be the number. The number five passing team. No, that's not where they got to be.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
No, absolutely not.
Shannon Sharpe
But they know. They know being 29th and offense and 31st and passing ain't gonna get it done.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I got. I got one. I got one for you.
Shannon Sharpe
What you got for me?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I. I take. I could take some teams that the Eagles are going to play. We're gonna have to put that ball in the air. Yeah, when you play the packers, you're gonna have to put the air.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, you might want to run it on the packers, but you don't want to subject yourself to that. That rush because they coming.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hold on. Will you play the Lions that didn't put up 52. You're gonna have to put that ball in the air. Yeah, like, there's some teams that can score in high volume.
Shannon Sharpe
You're gonna have to match them.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
You will have to match them. You'll have no choice. Yeah, but it ain't too many of them.
Shannon Sharpe
It's not Ocho. And you can't expect because even when we had the 2,000 ravens, you know, there was a game that we got into a shootout with the Jags. Right. There was a game late in the season that we end up having to score 30 plus points against the Jets. But for the most part, we could be pedestrian. We could average 20, 20 points, 17 points and win a game. Yeah, but there was a couple of games that we needed to score 39 that we needed to score in, you know, mid-30s. And so that's what's going to happen. Yeah, your defense is really good now. It's gonna, you know, Carter needs to get in some shape because he's out of shape because, boy, he was, he was huffing and puffing the other day, so he's gonna have to get better condition. But there are some. There are going to be some times, Ocho, you're going to have to put up 30. Yeah, that's just the way. That's just the way the league is.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. And sometimes it comes for opponent. Sometimes you don't expect it that you least expect.
Shannon Sharpe
You. You absolutely right.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. It always happens like that.
Shannon Sharpe
It does, it does. You end up getting to like, oh, and it's a team that you like, man, we, we got these boys and next thing you know, they don't jumped out on your 14 nothing or 14 three, and then now you catch up. But they, they don't got into a rhythm and you're going back and forth and you probably need to make a play late in the ball game. Right.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
To win.
Shannon Sharpe
Win.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
But, yeah, I just think the thing is the Eagles understand. They know you're not going to win. Nobody wins the super bowl the same way they won in the previous year. You have to. That's why it's so hard to repeat. That's why. Because, you know, a lot of times, you know, man, when we have success doing this, it's kind of like, you know, invest in Ocho. Well, you buy the same stock, but you got to diversify your portfolio. And in order for the, the Eagles to get back to where they want to be, which is top of the mountain, they're going to have to diversify, they're going to have to get better at throwing the football. It just is what it is. 31st, they gonna get it done. 31st is not going to get it done. And the 31st and pass. I'm trying to think, who the hell. Who the hell? Worse than that, Carolina.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I hope it's not the Panthers, not the way I've been talking about them before the season started.
Shannon Sharpe
But you've been talking about the Bears, too, and all. Both of them. Pond water. All. Both of them. They got to do better than this, Ojo. But I think, you know, look, I think Coach Sirianni is sitting there, tell them. And the OC Is like, look, our time will come. Let's just make sure we protect the football. We don't put the ball in harm's way. As long as we don't put the ball in harm's way. That's the problem. They're doing a great job of. Of protecting the ball, and they take it away. Now you have this type of 29th offense and 31st and pass, and you turn it over, you can get your eyes beat out.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
Because you're gonna put. You're gonna put your defense on a short field, or you're gonna have them, and you're gonna have them out there, and you're gonna wear them down. So right now, you know, they can possess the ball. Ocho, they're gonna pick up two or three. First down, Saquon gonna have pop one for 10, 12. They'll get a, you know, beat, get the tush, push for another one. They'll hit AJ Or. Or Devonte, and so they'll. They'll possess the ball. But when you turn it over and you put up these kind of numbers, that's. That's the quickest way to get your beat. So I'm sure that this is something that. Look, they know. And A.J. brown said, yeah, I sure hope we get the thing fixed sooner rather than later. Yeah, y' all got me out there just getting cardio in.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, I. I know how you feel. I know how you feel. He got that C on his chest. He really can't say what he want to say.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I agree.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I know how you feel, boy. Like, hold tight. Like I. Like I told Tyreek, hold tight. It's gonna get. It's gonna get better.
Shannon Sharpe
He said, yeah, A.J. you said, hold on to God's unchanging hand. It's tough. It is. It really is, because you out there working your tail off, and, oh, yeah, we gonna get it to you this week. And, you know, they tell you all the stuff that you want to hear, like, yeah, hey, oh, so you look at that gameplay, like, okay, oh, I like this. And then you get that first 15. And first 15. I'm like, well, let's see. One, two, three. For sure. Two of the possible. I'm looking at like, I got a spade head. I got three of the possible. At the first 15. I got three of the possible. Man, I should have known. I shouldn't have got my damn hooks up. There's some bull bad. Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. I think all of us remember those days. If you play receivers, if you've been the number one guy. Yeah, they've been some. There have been some days that you like, man, this is some bull job out here today.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
But we go into games, we'll be playing the Steelers, and they put that goddamn Ike Taylor there. They'll put Ike Taylor impress. And then Shade Ryan Clark all the way over the hashtag. Then Troy Palomu. Troy Paloma. Lou Crazy ass be playing around in the A gap, bouncing from the A to the B in. And then at the snap of the ball here, shoot. Oh, man, I told my. You Talk Frustrated Dick LeBeau was running all type of exotic stuff. I'm like, man, what the hell is.
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all doing, man? Oh, yo, they'd be out there talking about, Hey, 84. What does it look like? Look like I ain't caught no damn pass yet. That's what it looked like to me. I don't know what it looked like to you. I don't know from where I'm standing, I'll be like, hey, what it looked like? Y' all know what it looked like.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Y' all see, boy, there was some days, boy, I used to have to hold it together, boy.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, for sure, for sure. I said it up season, though. Oh, yo. Oh, man. Hey, I was a great retreater because I do it all that, cousin, all day long.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, hey, boy, listen. It's one thing I hate. That's one thing I hate, is to put in all that work during the week.
Shannon Sharpe
Ah, man, Ocho, they don't sold. They done sold me a dream. Got me all gassed up, Ocho. I'm like, yeah, yeah. Hey, I said, yeah, I got D boys this week, Ocho. Yeah, I put that work in this week, man. Please. Ain't caught up, man, don't do that. No Joe, man. Ain't caught a GD thing. Hey, that was all, you know. Hey, fold. That's all. That's on us. We got to get you to rock.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, hey, boy.
Shannon Sharpe
It ain't gonna be too many more times. It's gonna be on you, though.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, man, I remember them days, boy. Jesus Christ.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ocho. Patrick Mahomes spoke about being winless two weeks into the season. Obviously being on two. There's no more urgency than even last week. And I feel like we were very urgent last week. Definitely new territory as far as being 02, but knowing that we got guys for it. We have the mindset of going out there and getting and being even better. In my eyes, it looks like an opportunity. What's an opportunity? To prove who we. Who we are. The Kansas City Chiefs coming back from O2 and trying to build up on a big football game on Sunday Night Football and try to get our season going in the right direction from there. Ocho, they're on the road Sunday Night Football playing the New York Football Giants. Hey, are they going to be 03 or will they be 1 and 2?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, I don't know. Because the Giants look good. They look good. Cowboys last week. They look very good. Obviously not winning after going into overtime because of some unfortunate circumstances before the game ended. Yeah, you got to deal with Abdul Carter. You got to deal with Kayvon Thibodeau. You got to deal with that monster.
Shannon Sharpe
In the middle, Big Lawrence. That's the Lawrence. Yeah.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I don't know. The receiver's gonna have to show up. The running game is gonna have to take some of the pressure off of Patrick Mahomes so he doesn't have to play Superman and Pacheco. You got to get going. Kareem Hunt, you got to get going. So Patrick Mahomes doesn't press. When he presses, he's making mistakes. There's no reason. Patrick Mahomes, yes, he's a dual threat, but he shouldn't be leading the team in yards as a rushing yards. That shouldn't be happening. The receivers, the supporting cast, y' all got to step up. Y' all got to step up. Travis Kelsey, hall of Famer juju. Come on, man. Now's the time. Next man up. All that Rasheed Rice in here. We. I don't matter. Next man up. Hollywood. Come on, boy. You from the career, baby. You know what to do. Your name Hollywood for a reason. Every time you step on the field. What? It's supposed to be a show, man.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, they took. Oh, I thought they took down. I forgot that was the LAX sign they took down. They left the Hollywood sign up.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, yeah, Hollywood. I know you're gonna see this, boy. It's gonna be a show every time you step on that grass. Why you got to represent that name?
Shannon Sharpe
You got to put something on tape, man. Yeah, because you signed a one year deal, bro. This ain't about Kansas City. This is about somebody else looks at, man. We got to have him.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
That's what it's about. Don't. Yo.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Every week is your resume, huh? Yes. Yes. Are you filling out your application every week?
Shannon Sharpe
Yep. Update it. Gotta update that resume, ojo. Clayton Kershaw announced today his legendary career is coming to a close. He's retiring after the season, with his final regular season start coming Friday, coming on Friday against the San Francisco Giants. He's had quite a career and will assuredly be at the first ballot. Hall of Famer. He won an MVP, three Cy Young. He's 11 time All Star, a Gold Glove, two World Series title, and he won the Triple Crown, had most wins in the season, most strikeouts in the season, and the best ERA in the National League. Clayton Kershaw is calling it a career. And what a career it's been.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, he nice. He nice. I like Hershey, you know, Listen, I.
Shannon Sharpe
Think he went to the same school as Matthew Stafford. They went to high school together. Real. Yeah.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Listen, Clayton Kershaw is one of the best pitchers of all time.
Shannon Sharpe
Huh?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I was in the bullpen with him one time, helping him with his form, helping him with his technique. Obviously, his best pitch is the curveball. I taught him my cur. My curveball is. I. Oh, it's just my pinky and my thumb. That's my pinky and my thumb. He didn't really like that because his hands were a little bigger than mine, but he has the best curveball in the game. They call it Uncle Charlie. I don't know if you knew that. Did you know that? Okay. Yeah. Well, hey. Unbelievable. That ball be here, boom, by the time he gets to the plate.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
So you know me and Kershaw.
Shannon Sharpe
12, 6. 12 to 6, huh?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Huh?
Shannon Sharpe
12 to 6, huh?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah. Hey, look, he can go from 12 to 6 to 12 to 4 or 12 to 7. He can make. He can make it go wherever he want to. He got another pitch. He got another pitch called the ufo. Yeah. It go like this.
Shannon Sharpe
That what he do.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice. Now that's my dog. Yeah. You know me and Kurt go way back, right?
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Clayton Kershaw is calling it a career. And what a career has been. The Fever win their very first playoff series in 10 years to reach the WNBA semis. Aaliyah Boston made a go ahead layup with 7.4 seconds. Lexi hall stole the ensuing inbound pass. And the Indiana Fever beat the number three seed Atlanta Dream 87 to 85 tonight to advance to the WNBA semifinals. Despite missing Caitlin Clark, Indiana closed on a 70 run to win a playoff series for the first time since 2015. The six seeded Fever will play on Sunday against the number two seed Las Vegas Aces. Asia Wilson, co defensive player of the year won her third defensive player of the year. And it's going to be her or Nefesha Collier Fee, who we had on the show is going to be mvp. And if Asia wins, she'll be a four time league mvp. Now I think there have been a couple of three time. Cheryl Swoops is a three time mvp. Lauren Jackson, the Australian is a three time mvp. I think Lisa Leslie, I think. But Asia, she has a chance. She has a chance to be the greatest woman's player ever. When it's all said and done. She. I think she's only 29 years of age. She has four MVPs, she has three defensive players of the year. She's been a WNBA all NBA selection. I mean a finals MVP. I. Sky's living. She gonna, she gonna be. She ain't going nowhere. No, she led the league in scoring again. She's seconded rebounding, she's first in block shots. She's top, I think she's top five in steals. She's the best player, hands down. She's the best player. Now I'm not saying she might have not had the best seat. Well, I mean you base it on. What she did last year was you compelled. I mean she averaged 26 points a game, but she's the best player. She's the best player in the wnba. There's nothing, there's nothing she can't do.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Can't do.
Shannon Sharpe
She can score, she could rebound, she could defend, block offensive rebound, defensive rebound, block shots. Deal. She is amazing. She's the best player and she should win MVP number four. I think in the fourth quarter I saw she had like 27 points. I don't know what she ended up with. But you know what? Damn. I can't watch. I'll be on the road. I might catch a game. I might catch a Game. I might catch a game. Hey, your boy. Your boy might be outside again.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hold on. I asked you to go outside. You told me no, but.
Shannon Sharpe
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey. I asked you to go fishing. I asked you to go see Rat Pack. I asked you to go see the Frank Sinatra show, but you told me no about everything. But you gonna go to a game.
Shannon Sharpe
I want to see Asia. I want to see Chelsea Gray. Do with that thing, Jackie Young.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
All right, get two tickets, then I'm coming, too.
Shannon Sharpe
You know what? I'll tell you and say they have a one. They had number single. Who? The. The. The Aces.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Okay. Don't worry about it. I'm gonna go to Ticketmaster. Wherever you sit, I'm gonna get next to you.
Shannon Sharpe
I sure hope they play. If they play Sunday. Dang. Hold on. What is. Is it two out of three? Is it two out of three? Or is it three out of five, Ash? Cause. Because I know the first ride was two out of three, and then it goes home, away, home. So we gotta see how this thing. How this thing plays out. We got something forward, but congratulations to the Fever. Okay. Wow. Five, seven. Is that best? That best of seven is something new. They just added that, didn't they, for this year? Because I figured last year was three out of. It was. It was the three out of five.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Well, three out of five.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Yeah. The Liberty. Because if I thought mistaken, the Liberty beat the Link. But that was a file. They shouldn't have called that foul. That was some bull jive. That was a bull job. Last year, Minnesota, the Links, they should have. They should have won. I'm not gonna be. I'm not. Oh, so best three out of five.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Well, whatever game.
Shannon Sharpe
So that means the first two games. The first two games will be at home for the Aces. So they'll probably play. Hopefully they play Sunday.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Tuesday. Okay, so you want to go Sunday? You want to go Tuesday?
Shannon Sharpe
I can flat go Sunday. I can't go Sunday. Sunday.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Okay, Tuesday.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, we got to see when the games are, man.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
You just said Sunday and Tuesday.
Shannon Sharpe
I said I. I said I think it. I don't know. I like. I know the game is Sunday. The very first game is Sunday. I don't know what the second game is.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Okay, well, let me know, let me know. I ain't nothing but. Ain't nothing but a little hopping a skip spirit. Go straight there. 4 hour and 30 minute flight. A hundred dollars.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Yeah, I thought so. Here it is, Ocho. Now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's Time for Q and A.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hold on. I gotta do 50 push ups.
Shannon Sharpe
Patrick Rendone. People didn't like how strict Flores was as a coach, and people don't like how loose Mike McDaniel is as a coach. I'm convinced the Dolphins organization will be dysfunctional for a long time. Well, that's normally what happens when you, when people think you go too far to the right, they normally go too far to the left. And now they're gonna probably try to find somebody that smack dab in the middle. I just, I just think that showing up late and late to practice and all that stuff, you got to nip that stuff in the bud. You gotta dip it in the bud. On show.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniel didn't and it became a problem. It's kind of like anything, Ocho. You, you know, you try to, you try to get it under control before it becomes a problem. You got a cold, you try to get on top of it before it becomes the flu, right?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
And.
Shannon Sharpe
It got out of control and he couldn't control it. And once they tune you out. That's why I was surprised that, that, that he was, you know, considering how, you know, because they started out fairly good and then they just dropped off a cliff. Remember the previous year, Ocho? They went to the playoffs, they lost all those games and ended up losing home field and they ended up having to go on the road to Kansas City the first game.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
So. Yeah. Hey, hey. Brian Flores. He didn't, he didn't want to, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
No, he wanted Justin Herbert. You wanted Justin Herbert. Seemed like the right call, too. Can you imagine Herbert with, with waddling. Oh my. You know, but with Rican. Excuse me. Waddle.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
No, he didn't. He wanted. And, and, but you know, with ownership, because, you know, you got a good quarterback, you tied to him and hey, you could, you can have a job for a long time. Andy Reid got. He don't have a job as long as he. As long as you want to stay in Kansas City. Coach Belichick had a 20 plus year career in, in New England. Tony Dungeon walked away, gave Jim Caldwell an opportunity. Jim Caldwell would have been there for a long time had Pton not got hurt. Peyton, Sean Payton and Drew. Drew Brees. Coach Cower had a Big Ben, turned him over to Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin Day. You, hey, you get one of those guys, you get tied to him for a long time. It's McDaniel. He's too soft on the players. Don't respect him. They need A coach that can motivate them to play hard. They need you, Ocho. Hell no.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, they. Hey, they. They do. See, you know what to play. They respect me, though.
Shannon Sharpe
They gonna respect you, Ocho.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
They're gonna respect me even though I'm. I'm easy to get along with. I mean, but when it's. When it's time to play ball. Oh, but y' all ain't gonna embarrass me. You ain't gonna play up with my name. Absolutely not. You know I'm fun making jokes. Hehe. Haha. Oh, no. But when that whistle blow, it's time to go. Oh, it's time. It's time to go.
Shannon Sharpe
Artificial Hips LLC Imagine Trick Daddy as Dolphins head coach. Gotta have a play called Thug Holiday. Something like a Hail Mary.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, a trick trigger. Be cussing everybody ass out. Man, I can see. I can imagine Trick Daddy in the presser. That wouldn't work. Hey, that'll be funny as hell.
Shannon Sharpe
Quentin May said, soon as I turned in, I see Ocho. Tyler Hamilton said, Ocho, your nephew played with my cousin at Marshall.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
At Marshall. Marshall. Marshall.
Shannon Sharpe
The underscore daddiest underscore dad said if the ball is caught behind the line. Behind the line, can they still call an eligible player downfield? I think you talk about the. The offensive lineman for the Dolphins. That was 20 yards down the field. You can't be that far down left guard.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Man, he tripping, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Everybody got the call with him.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Damn. And then the play was going the opposite way.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Blave Jaspari Herbert, MVP season. He looked good. But that guy that's up there in Buffalo ain't playing too bad either. James Johnson said if you played at Georgia Bulldogs and Ocho played at the U, whose team would win? Depending on which. Which win. Yeah, I know. Ocho and I didn't overlap, you know.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
What you mean we played at the same time. It don't matter. If I went to the U, we would have won. Hell, my Oregon State team would have beat your team.
Shannon Sharpe
First of all, Ocho, you was in elementary school when I was in college.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
God damn.
Shannon Sharpe
Aren't you.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm. Hey, I'm glm, for real. I guess that means I'm. I don't know what that mean. Hey, Uncle. No Joe. Love y'.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
All.
Shannon Sharpe
Love you. Thanks for watching. Thanks for supporting Timothy Daniel says Chad. That's a good mentality to have. You may know, but beat me. However, if I know what you're going to do, I'm going to make it harder for you to beat me.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
No, you not. No, you not. The game of football is A team game. 11 players with individual jobs at each position. All you have to do is win your individual job. Speaking, talking. Hey, this is what they gonna do. It doesn't matter once you on the field. But y'. All. I wish my. Y'. All. Maybe it's my mentality. I don't know. Maybe I'm tripping. I don't get it. All that micromanaging. Who's in the booth, who's saying this? He knows this. They know the play. I don't give a. You know what, man? You finna get this work. What? Period.
Shannon Sharpe
Wolf hat. Facts. Ocho, can I hire you as a style coach?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Oh, yeah. Hey, I do. I know I do. Be flat now. That's one thing about it, you know? How do you know? Looks up. Look what you. What you.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I'm an H M. Target. Zara type dude. Every so often, you know, I cut a rug a little bit. But if. If. If you. If you can get. Fly for the low. It's. It's not about what you buy. It's what you probably put it together so we can work with it.
Shannon Sharpe
I sure wish I could put 5,900 together and go get me something.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I told you. I told you. I told you. You can get your money. All you got to do is go see the Rat Pack show at Tuscany.
Shannon Sharpe
How you put stipulations on how I get my money back?
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Because I want you to have a good time.
Shannon Sharpe
I want you to get yourself.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
You're not living. You alive, but you're not living.
Shannon Sharpe
Chad, y' all heard this man. This man said, I'll pay you the money I owe you if.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Listen, listen. I want you to have a good time. I want you to live life. You not living life.
Shannon Sharpe
Let me get my 59 Honda and I can live again.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
You're gonna. You're gonna live as soon as you go to that show. Soon as you. As soon as you come on. As soon as you come on Nightcap and be like, ocho, I went and seen the show. And then show me evidence that you went.
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, I went on the show. Good show, Ocho. Fly me to the moon.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
What was the lead singer name?
Shannon Sharpe
Frank Sinatra. Hey, Rodney Dinkins. Say, oh. Can you send my birth. Send a birthday shout out to my mom and my sister. Their birthdays are this weekend. Absolutely, Dink. Happy birthday, Andrea and your mom. Happy birthday, Glenn in the house. Appreciate that, Dink. Appreciate the support. Every time I'm up at Atlanta. You come through. Support me with Shay by laportier. Always hopping on the chat. I appreciate that, homeboy.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, the iPhone 17 come out tomorrow. You gonna get one?
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, hell no.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Hell, I just paid off the 16.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
The hell no. Would you use on the payment plan?
Shannon Sharpe
I sure was. I ain't got bread like that. Ojo, wrestle Seth Rollins. Seth's gonna put you up. Put a cartoon size bump on your head.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Hey, I could wrestle, man. Don't do that. Don't do that. You know I was a state champion 68. Don't play at me like that.
Shannon Sharpe
JJ said, oh, if Ocho ain't pay your money yet, I go jump on him for you. I ain't got nothing but a no.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
When you think about coming to jump on me, just know these things right here gonna be around your neck, boy. You hear me?
Shannon Sharpe
What is with my money, man? I just want my money, Ocho. That's all.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Huh?
Shannon Sharpe
No, I want.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I'm talking about. I'm talking about whoever that is.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh. Oh, okay. I just want 5,900, Chad. That's all I want.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
I got you. I got. I'm telling you, boy, as long as I owe you, boy, you ain't never going broke, boy. You hear me?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you're gonna pay me my money, y'.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
All. I got you, though. You. Hey. Hey, you. Hey, we. But you my. Hey, you my ace. Boom.
Shannon Sharpe
I sure could use that little. That little piece of money.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
Yeah, I got you. I got you. I appreciate. I appreciate it.
Shannon Sharpe
Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp, and my partner in Liberty City's own. He's Bingo's ring of fame honoree. He's a former pro bowler. All probably. He's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button. And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed, wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support. Thanks to you, Nightcap has become a success. Make sure you go check out My Shade by laportier. We do have it in stock, but if you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. Please direct responsibly and stay safe. Please make sure you follow my media company page on all of his platforms. Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out. That link is also pinned in the chat. The Buffalo Bills run their record to 30 thanks to a 3121 victory over the division rival Miami Dolphins who fall to 0 3. Two big mistakes late in the ball game gave up a touchdown and two or three of costly interception and the Buffalo Bills were able to run out the clock. They're 30 with 10 days off before their next game. Miami Dolphins are 0 and 3. Just soak and that report.
Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
You gotta believe. You gotta believe.
Shannon Sharpe
I believe y' all not gonna be good this year. That's what I believe. That's what I believe. Thank you guys for joining us. I'm Heath Ocho. We will see you on Saturday. Thanks for joining us guys. Peace.
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Ochocinco (Chad Johnson)
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Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Host: Shannon Sharpe (with Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson)
Guest: Seth Rollins
Date: September 19, 2025
This episode of Club Shay Shay’s “Nightcap” Hour 2 features a high-energy, insightful interview with WWE Superstar Seth Rollins. Rollins joins Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson to discuss his wrestling journey, performing in front of massive audiences, the grind behind the scenes, family and life balance, and the excitement surrounding WWE’s upcoming WrestlePalooza event—making its debut on ESPN. The conversation is filled with humor, stories from the road, and genuine advice on chasing passions and longevity in the spotlight.
“It was my dream since I was a little kid... fell in love with it at a super young age, about 14 or so. My friends and I started doing it in our backyard...that's when I got the knack for performing.”
(04:49) - Seth Rollins
“I signed with WWE in… 2010, I believe… it was in a little warehouse in Tampa at the time...sweat it out, grinded my way up the ranks in NXT and made my debut in WWE in 2012, and the rest is history.”
(05:28) - Seth Rollins
“You learn and you get a little better each time...it feels like you’re moving at warp speed and they’re moving in slow motion… I really hit a flow state probably like a decade in…”
(06:27) - Seth Rollins
“There are less than 20 guys in our industry that can do that well...in my opinion, it is what separates the good ones from the great ones.”
(07:34) - Seth Rollins
“It’s this amazing interplay you get with a live audience… prime example, this past Monday… the crowd was chanting 'constipated' at one point… you have to react to stuff like that in real time… That’s the magic of it, man.”
(08:41) - Seth Rollins
“WrestlePalooza is going to be our first...Premium Live event in our partnership with ESPN...It’s going to be huge.”
(10:01) - Seth Rollins
“You got Brock Lesnar versus John Cena. You got Cody Rhodes versus Drew McIntyre...hell of a card.”
(10:24) - Seth Rollins
“WWE is absolutely a global brand. Anywhere we go on the planet, we are some of the most recognizable athletes because we’re on TV as well...”
(15:10) - Seth Rollins
“I’ve been at it for 22 years now...our generation...we have a lot more information available...prehab and rehab and recovery...I love this business. I’ve given my entire life to it...I imagine in some capacity I will stay involved one way or another for as long as I can.”
(12:21) - Seth Rollins
“My daughter is four and a half...I wouldn’t mind spending some extra time with her in a few years. But I love this business.”
(12:21) - Seth Rollins
“When you have that title, you take pride in it...But there’s no better feeling than giving your dance partner an incredible moment.”
(16:57) - Seth Rollins
“It’s one of those things where, if you’re getting over...if the people love you, if you’re entertaining...the company feels like you can carry the flag, they’ll give it to you... But if you’re hot and you’re on fire...you’re going to get that ball, you better run with it.”
(18:12) - Seth Rollins
“One of [my passions] is football...excited to join that squad...and then on the other side, I really love coffee. So I’ve invested...in a couple coffee shops...Coffee, football, wrestling, that’s kind of my jam, man.”
(19:03) - Seth Rollins
“I feel like if you want to make time for something in life, you will make time for it...you’ll figure out how to make it work.”
(19:24) - Seth Rollins
On Facing Live Audiences & Improv:
“The crowd in Springfield, Massachusetts, was going nuts… They were chanting 'constipated'. You have to react to stuff like that in real time, so you’ve got to be able to flow...That’s the magic of it.”
(08:41) - Seth Rollins
On Passing the Torch:
“It’s a little bittersweet because on the opposite end of that, there’s no better feeling than giving your dance partner an incredible moment.”
(16:57) - Seth Rollins
On Life after 22 Years Wrestling:
“I love this business. I’ve given my entire life to it. It’s given me a great life. I met my wife through this business. I have my daughter because I met my wife through this business...I built a little mini empire out of this industry.”
(12:21) - Seth Rollins
On Juggling Passions:
“You only live once, man...Get out there and make the best of it.”
(20:41) - Seth Rollins
This episode gives a layered look at the modern life of a superstar wrestler—one shaped by relentless travel, performance pressure, and global fame, but also rich with passion projects and family. Seth Rollins’ transparent reflections on success, balance, and longevity offer lessons not just for athletes or performers, but anyone who wants to make the most of their talents.
Standout Segment:
Don’t miss Seth’s breakdown of “flow state” in performing and his response to wild, unscripted fan interactions ([08:41]).
For wrestling fans or those new to WWE, this episode is a must-listen for its behind-the-scenes access and its sense of humor and heart.