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Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho are welcomed by Olympic Champion Melissa Jefferson-Wooden!
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
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Shannon Sharpe
A woo hooer?
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Shannon Sharpe
VGW Group void. We're prohibited by law 21/ terms and conditions apply. Oh okay. Here we got a very special guest joining us. She's fresh off her second Diamond League win. She's the fastest woman in the world in 2025. She she's undefeated in the 100 meters in 2025 and she won the 100 and the 200 at the USA Track and Field Trials this year. And she will represent the USA in Tokyo September 13th to the 21st. Here she is, ladies and gentlemen, Melissa Jefferson Wooden. Melissa, how you doing?
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Good. How are you guys?
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Shannon Sharpe
We're doing amazing. Let me start you with this. You get off to a great start. You run high 10 eights early in the season and you haven't let up. Do you feel you're in the type of shape, you're in the type of condition that you can go to the championships and maybe run sub 1060. You feel you're in that kind of condition, the right track, the right conditions, the right people, because you're going to have Offering in that race, you're going to have to Lou in that race, you're going to have Tia Clayton in that race, you're going to have your. Your training partner sha' Carri Richardson in that race. So you're going to have the competition. Will the conditions permit you with the fitness that you're in right now?
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
I think so. And I think really it just boils down to, you know, me, at the end of the day, just continuing to do the things that's been working for me with it, which is, you know, showing up and executing my race to the best of my ability. And I think. I definitely do think that is possible.
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Shannon Sharpe
I think you got a lot of confidence last year when you got that bronze medal in Paris, when you got that bronze medal. And you like, just something about it. Just something about you, like, man. But I could tell you weren't satisfied training with the world champion and coming into this season. What were your expectations, Melissa, coming into this season? Because did you know you had this kind of. You had. I mean, to back it up, there may have been a whole lot of women that back up 106 with another 106 that haven't happened. You got to go back to Shelly Ann Frazier Price. You got to go back to Elaine Thompson. You got to go back there. A whole lot of women that have done what you just did.
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Yeah. So I think the biggest thing for me going into the 2025 season is starting it out healthy. I started training for Paris with a lingering issue from the previous season, and also I had joined or just joined Star Athletics with Dennis Mitchell and Sharif Lewis. So it was definitely, like, a lot of things happening all at once. And it was like once we. Once. I really didn't actually even get a good footing in yet. And then it was kind of like, oh, wow, like, no, something's wrong. Like, it was to a point to where I actually had to stop training with the group for about two and a half months. And so those days where I was, like, on the bike and watching them be able to go out there and train and get after it, like, even though they were. There were some days where, you know, they were dying on the ground, it's like, I want to be there with y'.
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Shannon Sharpe
All.
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Like, I want to be able to feel that pain I want to be able to say, like, hey, I put the work in just like everyone else. And then once reality started to set in, of just like, you know, this is where you're at right now. This is your situation. Let's move on from there. It was really just about getting. While my physical was getting back, right? Just making sure that my mental was intact and, you know, not losing sight of what the goal was, and that was to make the team. And so when the time came, you know, obviously we went to Olympic trials and our whole training group, we swept the women's 100 meter. I don't think that's something that's been done in an olympic alone at U.S. championships in a long time. You know, three women from the same training group to make the team. So that was definitely something, you know, I was happy to be a part of. And then going into Paris, it was just about, you know, I felt like I really had a good chance to win the whole thing. But it was also just in that moment when I saw my name come up in that last spot, it was, you know, in a sense, it wasn't a goal. It was a goal in my eyes because I had overcome so much that year to be able to have my name up there.
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Chad Ochocinco
So, yeah, yeah, sister, you've been. You've been very, very successful. I just. I just, I've never been able to run track. But all that you've accomplished, the big stages that you've been on, I would love to know, I know what the feeling like is coming out that tunnel where people scream your name. I want to know what is that feeling like when you get in those blocks and it's silent? What's going through your mind? Are you nervous? You have butterflies? What is that feeling like?
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
So I think this year for me, like, once it gets silent, it's almost kind of like I get to use that opportunity as. As for me to give myself that last minute pep talk in a sense of just like, okay, you're here now. Make the best of this situation or this opportunity that that's being presented. And once they say on your mark, I say, here we go. And that's that. When the gun goes off, whatever happens, happens.
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Shannon Sharpe
I think you gained a lot of confidence, Melissa. Look, you beat the reigning Olympic champ, you get to race every day, practice against the reigning world champ. But I think when you beat Alfred the Saint Lucian, when you beat her, it's just like you got 10ft tall. You like this. My year, I saw it. I saw when you beat her, Something came over you and, and it. I don't know if you felt that before that race, but when you beat her that day and you ran the time that you ran, you like, oh, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm on to something.
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Yeah. I think honestly and truly, for, for me, that race was obviously, it was basically a Olympic rematch. And so I remember being in the tunnel and going out there, and I just remember saying, like, you know, they're not going to get you twice. You know, in life, you have situations where things may or may not go your way, but it's all about how you come back or bounce back from those situations, whether it win in your favor or not, and you learn from them and you grow from them. And so that's literally been my approach this year as well. You know, after I realized how content I was with how the 2024 season went with me, it went for me. It really was about me coming into this year and saying, okay, well, let's see what a healthy Melissa can do. And once we realize, like, hey, you're healthy, you're doing the things that you need to do, let's build on that. Let's be the best Melissa that, you know, you can possibly be. Because this is like, literally what you're seeing right now is something that I've always dreamed of doing. And to be living part of that dream right now is just, you know, mind blowing, but also not very surprising, too, just because I've been putting in the work, like, I've been working my butt off. And so, you know, when I go out here and I run these races and I run these times and, you know, all of these other things. The things that's probably the most surprising to me is when you hear the history stats or how long is it's been since something like this has been done. Like, that part of it is shocking.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
But when it comes to, like, you know, the times that I want to run and the, the way I'm going about executing my races and how I'm showing up and competing, like, none of that is a surprise because I literally work for it every single day in practice.
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Shannon Sharpe
When you talk, do. Do you understand there have only been two women to go to 10 sub 6. You got Flo Joe the Great Flo Jo who run 10:49, and you got Elaine Thompson Harold, who's run 10:54. You got an opportunity to do something special. And I mentioned that great season that Shelly Ann Frazier Price had where she had like 10. She had six, 10, six races in that season. And then we mentioned Elaine Thompson. She went 10:54, and then she came back at the pre. I think it was the prefontaine of the Worlds and ran 10. Ran 1061. And for you to. I mean, when I saw, when I, When I saw the time today, 1065, it looked like 1065. I thought today was like 1071. 1072, I said, because you were. You weren't challenged. Now, I know you couldn't see all the way outside. I think, I think that was Clayton, that was way outside in lane nine. And I don't know if you could see her. But you, like, you get out. I mean, you. I mean, you push. I mean, hey, mj, you get out of those box.
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Oh, yeah. And that's really what the, what the, the race plan today was, was about. You know, my coach just made sure to tell me, like, hey, I want to put this race to bed in the first 30 meters. And so that's what I tried to go out there and do. Like, it's literally, that's how it goes for me. Every single race. There's something, whether it be, hey, when you get to your transition, you need to hit it this way, or, hey, let's. Let's put it to bed early, per se. So, you know, it's. It's really just that, right?
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm thinking, I'm like, when you go into a race in Dennis, and Dennis was a great starter himself, it's like when you says, okay, put it to bed in the first 30. Okay, you get out now, you get into your transition, do you look around? I mean, can you feel like, okay, I can shut it down? Because the way you got out today, had you stayed on the gas, you might have. Could have dipped down to maybe 1062, 1063.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
So what's crazy is I agree with you. I didn't think that 1066 was going to pop up on the clock today. I really just wanted to go out there and be like, hey, okay, you know, one, let's get an overseas pb. I haven't ran that. The fastest I've ever ran overseas was 1092, which isn't bad, but, you know, obviously you always want to aim for better and things like that and.
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Shannon Sharpe
Right.
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
And for Americans, you know, coming over, we call it going across the pond. You know that you have the travel, you have the jet lag and everything. It's a lot of factors within that, but I made sure to set myself up for the. The. Basically, I've made sure to set myself up to be able to go out there and run as fast as I possibly could today, you know, even if that meant leaving an extra day early so that I would have time to get the travel out my legs. Or, you know, being a student in the sport and asking people around me who've done this before multiple times, like, hey, like, what works for you when it comes time for these long flights? Like, how do you get over your jet lag? How do you recover from the plane ride and things like that. So, you know, just being proactive and not being afraid to ask questions or, you know, wanting to learn from that as well. Because I want to be doing this for a long time. So I always want to make sure that I'm putting my best foot forward. And that's, you know, utilizing all of my resources, doing research on my own, whether it be asking some of my training partners or asking people who ran in the past and done this for many, many years. You know, I want to make sure that if I say I want to be one of the best in the sports, that I'm doing the things that I need to do in order to be the best in the sport.
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Chad Ochocinco
You know what, I'm curious. I have my daughter run track for University of Kentucky. She runs a 4 and 8 right now. I'm curious, at your level, at the highest, at the highest level, how does the training, how did, how's the training going? No, how do the training sessions go for us? When you think about football? Let's, let's say there's a game on Sunday, right? Monday.
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco
Monday is a film day. Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursdays, you hitting it hard. Friday, you take Wednesday and Thursdays. And it's not, it's not as, it's not, not as hard.
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Shannon Sharpe
Intense.
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Chad Ochocinco
What's the word? What's the word? Yeah, it's not as intense. You know, Saturday, walkthrough, Sunday, you play your game. So when it comes to tracking and you have a race coming up, what do the days look like? Well, how do you know how to train without peaking before you actually do the race itself?
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Shannon Sharpe
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Is like say for instance, I I'll even do maybe a week right before we have like a US Trials. So the week before U S Trials we were like really? I would. I call it being in the lab.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Where we do one day on, one day off. So we'll have a heavy sprint day, which we're doing like blocks and a lot of sprint training. So whether that be overspeed training or you know, getting like close, close to fat timing, you know, just seeing where we are right. With flat foot speed and then being able to take those two things and translate it over. And then we'll come the next day and then have an off day where we'll just do strides and things like that. And we'll do that basically going into the week of US Trials. And then when we get to US Trials is just about, you know, doing things that's going to keep the body awake and alert but also not trying to do too much. So we'll do something like maybe like a 150, but the pace will be slower, you know, and we'll just work on technique and things like that. And then we'll have another down day and Then what we. We call it pre meet, which is the day before the meet starts. And that'll be the day where we do our blocks. And it's really just some pop out blocks. We'll have about maybe two or three of them and a nice little quick run or I say quick run, really a quick sprint, like maybe 60 meters or something like that. And then we'll hit it if the time is good. All right, shut it down. Take your shoes off. Go cool down. And that's it.
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Chad Ochocinco
Oh, that's dope.
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Shannon Sharpe
Wow.
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Chad Ochocinco
You know, you know, it sounds like honestly, the way you guys train, you train in different phases of the race, but you never actually the full race before you actually do it.
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Oh, yeah, absolutely. And I feel like that's probably something that's definitely worked to my advantage a lot. Especially like when we have our sprint days. Like we'll literally have two different sessions, but they're, like you said, working on both parts of the races. We'll have a part in our. Yeah, like we'll have a part in our, in our practice where we do strictly blocks, but we won't go out. But so far, right. And then we'll come on the second half of the day and do, you know, sprints, something like that. Whereas we can put together what we did in the blocks, but also work on the latter ends of our races. And you know, it gives coach an opportunity to really see the areas where we're not as strong or where our strong points are and then how we build off of those and then make those weaker points stronger.
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Chad Ochocinco
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
Melissa, you was mainly known as 100 meter specialist, but when you go down there and you lay the time that you laid down in the trials, they like, hold on. What happened to the 100 meter specialist? There is a legit chance you can double is because, look, the St. Lucian, she ain't going anywhere. That's your competition. You know that look is to loop. She, she's a big, she's a big race. And we know the Jamaicans from Shelly Ann Fraser and Elaine and Hera. They're not. Oh, Shelly Ann is gonna be there. Elaine isn't. Sherica Jackson. They are big. They are big game hunters. They show up in the world in the Olympics. The Jamaicans show up. Yeah, but you know, to look. But your, your competition, you know, it. It's probably going to be right next to you. 4 and 5, y' all probably gonna be right next to each other. The St. Lucia, Julian Alfred. Yeah, she ain't going anywhere. She's getting 100 and 200. You mentioned Paris. You like? Damn. I was injured going in and I got a bronze. I'm happy, I'm thankful. You got, if I'm not mistaken, I think you got the, you got the silver at the, the, at the world, right?
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
No, so, so I got bronze in the hundred at. Well, yeah, I got bronze in the hundred in Paris and then I got silver at Olympic trials.
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Shannon Sharpe
Trials, yes. So now how do you train? Because like the premier race is the 100. But you know, you're like, well, hell, I'm here. I might as well be greedy. I might as well be greedy and get double. Double about as well.
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Yeah. So me and the 200 have a love hate relationship. It ain't never had no problems with me, but I have problems with it.
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Chad Ochocinco
Right.
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
So I'm kind of, you know, we don't have as much problems anymore. That's because I know how to run it now and then. I'm not, I'm not scared of the pain really. For me it was always the pain for the. In the 200. That was the thing that I feared the most. But after getting over that, like, hey, the pain is, it's like lactic. Is lactic. At the end of the day it's going to be in your. Yeah, very. Right. Temporary. But I'm in shape, I'm in good shape. So you know, you have, you're in phenomenal shape.
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Shannon Sharpe
Thanks to put to. No, no, no, no, no. Look, I'm a track aficionado. To go Back to back 65, 66, like I said, there haven't been a whole lot of women and we've had some great hundred meter runners and I'm not just talking about Americans, I'm talking about from the Jamaicans and hey, Marion Jones. And you go back to. Well, obviously they weren't running times back then, but you look at Marion Jones, you look at Flo Jo, you look at Evelyn Ashford, you look at Gail Deavers, you look at Elaine Thompson and Shelly Ann Frazier and you look at Sha' Carri to put together 65 and 66 in back to back races. That doesn't happen often.
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
So you're in phenomenal shape. I just hope you can. I just hope MJ you can hold on to this.
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Oh yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
If you hold on to this kind of shape, there's something special in store for you in Tokyo because I know she's going to bring the best out of you and you're going to bring the best out of her. And with that track and a Favorable condition, and hopefully we can get something about 1.5 to 1.8 behind you.
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Come on, come on, come on. Come on with it.
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Shannon Sharpe
Come on. Come on with it. I'm telling you, I'm gonna be hyped.
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
I'm gonna be hyped.
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Shannon Sharpe
But in the. In the 200, with your kind of speed, what. And you say you were scared of the pain because the 200, with your kind of speed, you gotta get out. Cause you don't. Like. Like, Gabby can run to 400. She can run 49. 400.
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Right.
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Shannon Sharpe
So she has that kind of endurance, that strength to come on at the end, you. Like, I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do a Leonardo DiCaprio. Catch me if you can, because I'm gonna get out here on you. Come get me.
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Yeah. And I think for me, it's always just about. Well, for any athlete, it's just, you know, knowing what your strengths are and letting your strengths play to your advantage. I know, because even if you go back and you look at. When I ran in Miami, Grand Slam, that was. That was my first. I would say, like, I ran the 200 in Kingston, but the wind was, like, crazy. I ran into, like, a negative 4.7 win or something. So, yeah, literally ran with a hurricane in my face. So I was going.
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Shannon Sharpe
You ran into a hurricane?
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Yeah. So at that point, it was just about, like, nobody cares about the time. Like, just put your head down and run. But so I say Miami was probably. Probably my first real 200 of the year. And I'm in a race with the Olympic gold medalist, the Olympic bronze medalist, and then all these other women who run the 200 on a regular. And I don't.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. So.
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Going into that race, I was just kind of like, I. I won the 100 the day before. I ran a 10 7. It was windy, but it's just like, okay, it's those 10, seven. Like, okay, go back out there the next day and see what we could do. Like, let's see what we got in the tent. There's no expectation on what I can do. Like, on the line, and let's see what you got. And that's what I did. I got out, like, my life depending on it, and I got to about 150, like, 100 meter specialists would do and faded. I swam for about the last 30 meters of the race. And every time I go back and look at that race, I'm like, man, Melissa, you were right there. Like, okay, bet you are right there. Next time, it won't happen again. And when we got to Philly, that's literally what I did. I got blessed with the lane draw once again. And I just remember getting out on the curve, and when we came off the curve, it was just like, oh, wow, you're in the front.
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Shannon Sharpe
Hold it.
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Stay in the front. Like, come on, let's do this. And even then, I kind of feel like, not that I held back a little bit in that. In that 200, but it was almost like, I think she's going to come and catch me eventually. So it was kind of like almost. I was waiting for her to do that, and it was like, melissa, why did you do that? Like, why don't you just trust your abilities? Why didn't you think that you were fully capable of winning this race no matter who's in the race, you know? And so going into trials or I won Philly and then going into trials, it's just like, okay, let's just go out there and see what you got. You know you're strong enough to do it. You know, you know how to execute a race. Just go out there and do it. Like, stop getting in your own way and go out there and do what you know you can do. And so that's what I did. And I'm happy. Like, 2184 for me.
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Shannon Sharpe
I.
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
You don't even want to know what I had written down on my goals for the 200 this year. Like, surpass that.
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Shannon Sharpe
Probably, probably, probably 22 flat, low 22 or maybe 22 flat. But I think what running it was definitely 21 9. Okay. And you surprised. So you went 21 8. But I think what the 200 did do is that it gave you the strength that you can hold on to that hundred meters. So I'm expecting something really. I think I'm expecting something special. I'm expecting something that only Flo Jo has been able to do. I'm expecting you to go. I can see a scenario. You go high, 2110, 5. I can see that.
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Yeah, I can too.
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Shannon Sharpe
I like it. So. But let me ask you this, as were you mainly 100 meter, now you've into the 200. How different is the training from the 1 to the 2?
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
For us, it's actually not that different. We pretty much do the same things we do for the 100, for the 200. The way our coach trains us is literally like, you either got it or you don't. You know, it's one of. It's kind of one of those things. And then obviously, you know, when it comes to certain part of the races, like there's, there is an extra hundred meters. So you know, it's all about teaching when we're, when we're getting out of the blocks and what we do at the point of the 200 and things like that. But when it comes to like whether if you're asking like do we do more strength endurance training for that or you know, if different in that aspect of it, it's not that much and not, it doesn't vary a lot. Yeah, right.
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Shannon Sharpe
Because a lot of, because like, like 400 meter runners, they'll do a lot of, they'll do a lot of 500, a lot of 600-hundred, 200 meters runners, you'll probably do a lot, a lot, a lot more threes. And for, and for, and for the, the 100 meters, you do a lot more 150, maybe 170, like that. So it's interesting to see because they require different things. You know, obviously the 100 meters is all about get out because I don't care. 107 ain't catching. 10 7. The first 107 to get out the blocks, that's the 10 7. That's go across the finish line first. So those days, are you running somebody down?
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Absolutely.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's the thing. That's, that's the thing of the past when you dealing with equal, you know, you and Julian and, and Ms. Alfred, when you guys get out and that's what you've been able to do. I'm, I'm like, I don't know if I've seen a woman get out of the blocks like you. I mean it's almost like I'm looking at you. You like a two foot, like you push off like two feet. Normally you see that with men. So, so go ahead, go. I want to know, I want to know what, how, how have you been able to like the way you thrust yourself out of the blocks.
- [28:31]
Melissa Jefferson Wooden
So for me it's all about it. It's almost this thing to where like we do it every single day in practice. So the minute I hear go the first, the first thing is just like, okay, how much I first step in doing so. You know, obviously it's about, you know, you get in, you get to the, the, the technical side of things. So you talk about your stride length and all of that stuff. But for me it's really just about how much can I get out of these first couple of steps, how can I set myself up to separate from the rest of the field is basically what I'm Thinking in my head and whatever gets me to doing that is basically how I go about it. It's always fun, though, to be able to line up with women who have or who are just as capable of doing the things that I do. You know, as far as getting out the blocks, like, I like getting out the blocks with people. You know, I. It makes me want to be better. It makes me, like, if we can get out together, I'm. I'm now. I now want to see how I can get out faster than you. Like, that's the type of athlete that I am. I'm always looking for ways to improve, always looking for ways to be a better Melissa. And in doing that, you know, it comes. It boils down to perfecting my craft, and I do that every single day with my training partners in practice. You know, like, we push each other past our limits sometimes and in good ways, obviously, but, you know, just, you know, bringing the best out of one another is. Is. I feel like why I've been able to do the things that I've been able to do. Like, you see me, how you say, like, I get out the blocks the way I do. I don't get out the blocks the way I do if I'm not being pushed like that in practice. So.
- [30:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Right. And I'm. No disrespect, but I forgot about the great. The great Brits, Daryl Nida and Dina Asher Smith. I'm sure they're gonna. They're gonna. They're gonna be on the line. They're gonna. They're gonna have something to say about this. But, Melissa, I mean, have you thought about. I mean, when you were growing up, did you ever. Did you ever. Did it ever cross your mind I would be. I would be the fastest woman in the world? Not in the U. Not in. Not in Texas or Florida or Georgia. I. I will be the fat of 8 billion people. There's not going to be a woman in the world that can outrun me.
- [30:47]
Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Yes. Honestly? Yes. Like, there's no lies to it. I'm so dead serious. Yes.
- [30:59]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, look, I'm expecting. I'm expecting to go in 100 meters. I'm gonna be. I will be. And I'm expecting a time. I'm expecting you to lay down something special that, that we. That we're going to be talking about leading in the 28, because obviously the. The Olympics going to be in LA, and hopefully you, you know, you can stay healthy. But I'm exp. I'm expecting something special because I know you Got it in you. And the way you run, the time that you run, it ain't no. Well, she ran 10, 8, now she ran 11 flat. She ran 10. She ran 1078. And now she run 1092. No, it's. It went from 1088-1086-1084-8275, 72. I'm like, what Dang improvement. Hey, does she got. Does she got. Hey, she got a hurricane behind or something? Because the time she laying down and the consistency in which you're laying these times down.
- [31:55]
Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Oh, yeah. You know, consistency is the name of the game in our sport. And I feel like the biggest thing for me this year also, just on top of everything else that I've been doing, whether it be my mindset or anything like that, is just being disciplined in who I want to be on those days where, you know, I may not be feeling my best or. Man, I'm a little tired today. Coach been beating us up all week. Like, make sure to keep showing up for myself, you know, because at the end of the day, I don't want to get to Tokyo and be like, man, if I would have just. Or if I would have just sucked it up and came today or. Or if I would have did that, then maybe, like, I don't want to. I don't want to leave with any doubts of.
- [32:46]
Shannon Sharpe
No regrets.
- [32:46]
Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Everything that I did, I didn't leave or I didn't do. Yes. I can't get the words out for some reason. Excuse me. It's five o' clock in the morning over here, but, yeah, and we thank.
- [32:56]
Shannon Sharpe
You for your time, because there are two. You get a lifetime of discipline or a lifetime of regret. Now, the lifetime of discipline is something that you can look back and you can be proud of, that regret is something that you can't go back and undo.
- [33:10]
Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Absolutely.
- [33:11]
Shannon Sharpe
And so, like I said, I'm expecting you. You look fit, you are fit for you to run those times that you've been running, the consistency in which you've been running. Melissa, so I'm expecting you. When you win, when you win, which you will win, we're gonna speak it. They say there's power in the tongue. We're gonna speak it into existence. You're going to win, and you're gonna come back here and we're gonna have something very, very special for you on Nightcap. So when you win the 100 meters, come on back and have a conversation with us, okay?
- [33:43]
Melissa Jefferson Wooden
All right, that's a deal.
- [33:45]
Shannon Sharpe
Melissa, thank you so much. Thank you for your time. Appreciate you staying up or getting up early in the morning to have this conversation with us. You can tell that we are big track fans. We covered the Olympics. We're going to cover the World Championships. We didn't get an opportunity to come out to the trials, but moving forward, we will be at the trials. Hey, Ocho, in her downtime, she likes playing Call of Duty and say she be. Hey, she say what? She said she wear a size 14 and she be putting foots in, guys. She said she be putting foots together.
- [34:19]
Melissa Jefferson Wooden
I do. I do.
- [34:20]
Chad Ochocinco
Okay. Okay. We're gonna have to run. We're gonna run one. We got to run one now. We. Now. Okay, I'll be talking. I like it. I like it.
- [34:26]
Melissa Jefferson Wooden
All right.
- [34:28]
Chad Ochocinco
Got you.
- [34:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Here she is, ladies and gentlemen, Melissa Jefferson wooden. She's the US champ in the 100 meters and the 200 meters. She'll be representing the US in 100 to 200. And the four by one. Hey, you pick up a fourth goal, you jump on that 4x4. You got that in?
- [34:47]
Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Ooh. Listen, if they want to win, they should leave me off of it this year. I'm just being honest. I'm just being honest.
- [35:00]
Shannon Sharpe
Melissa, congratulations on all your success. Stay healthy, and we look forward to talking to you real soon. Thank you for joining us.
- [35:07]
Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Thank you, guys. Thank you.
- [35:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Thank you so much. Take care, man. I got. Man, I don't know what to do.
- [35:19]
Chad Ochocinco
Anytime you talk about track, boy, you be. Hey, boy, you go.
- [35:22]
Shannon Sharpe
You see, when we talk about don't nothing excite me. Football, basketball, nothing excites me like tracking.
- [35:29]
Chad Ochocinco
So see how you get, how you get with track and field. When we talk about soccer, boxing. Soccer, boxing. If one more thing. Soccer, boxing. Yeah, that's about it. Soccer, boxing.
- [35:42]
Shannon Sharpe
But I don't know what it is, Ocho. I think it's the fact of being the next track athlete and knowing what you put in. Because guess what, Ocho, you can't rely on nobody else. It's you. It's you. And then you can't be mad at the results you didn't get for the work you didn't put in. You heard what she said. I heard a guy the other day, he said, motivation and discipline. He said, what happens on the days that you're not motivated? Are you disciplined? Think about that on the day. Motivation and discipline, they're very different things because you're not going to always be motivated. But will you stay disciplined?
- [36:23]
Chad Ochocinco
Get up when you don't want to.
- [36:28]
Shannon Sharpe
Studying, watching track and field for as long as I Have. And studying this young. And watching this young lady run Ocho, I don't know if the chat realized how impressive what she just did is. I don't think they understand the gravity or the magnitude of her running. The time she ran, what she's done. She's put herself in a very, very elite company. Very, very elite. She's fit. She's gonna have the people in the race to lose from the ivory coast, the St. Lucian Julian, offering those two great Brits, Daryl Nita and Dina Asher, Smith, Shakari, look, they're gonna. The women are gonna be there. I believe the conditions, the favorable conditions. If she can get a 1.5 to 1.8 and she can get out like she got out today, she's going to. She. Now, the difference is, Ocho, you got rounds. So hopefully she doesn't get anybody that hopefully she can just, like, you know, just get. Because all you want to do is get through. All you're trying to do is get through. You trying to. You trying to. Not you trying to expel as little energy as you possibly can. Because now when it comes to final, I'm emptying the tank. With the condition that she's in, the fitness. She can go. She can run, she can roll, she can run low 10 6, or high 10 5, which only two women have ever done that. Elaine Thompson, Hera and Flo. Joe the Great. Flo.
- [37:58]
Chad Ochocinco
If you look at the field. If you look at the field that she'll be running against, you not gonna. You might not have a choice but to run that.
- [38:05]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, that. Ut. That. That horn. That. That long horn. Julian Alfred from St. Lucia.
- [38:14]
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, oh, oh, they coming. I can't wait.
- [38:18]
Shannon Sharpe
But I saw Ocho. I saw her when she beat her something, and she was. She was giggling and she like. Yeah, it's that confidence. Ocho that is the reigning Olympic champ. She got out. Catch him if you can. That's dope. She knows that's the type. That's the type of race she's gonna have to run. Man, oh, man, I can't wait for the. Okay. Come on.
- [38:48]
Chad Ochocinco
Tokyo.
- [38:49]
Shannon Sharpe
The September 13th through the 21st. Right around the corner. Right around the corner. I'm just hoping she can hold on to that fitness for another month. Hold on to that fitness. Hold on. Cause, hey, that's gonna be a race bet. I can't wait, Ocho. I can't wait. We got something fun. Hey, Jamaicans, y' all want some of this?
- [39:17]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [39:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all remember what we did to y' all last time? I Told y' all what we gonna do? Gonna do it again too. I don't know about the man. Kachane. Kachane, but who? Shane Thompson ain't playing that race today.
- [39:32]
Chad Ochocinco
I thought if there was another 10 meters, Noah would coming to get him.
- [39:37]
Shannon Sharpe
But see, that's the thing. In order for Noah to have a chance, he's got to get closer to it. He's got to be closer to him because Noah is a 200 meter specialist. And see, that was Usain. Usain started out as a 200 meter specialist and he was giving up too much ground. He'd run out of meters before the race was over. So now once he got his start down, Noah has the endurance to come.
- [40:07]
Chad Ochocinco
Get you later on in the race.
- [40:08]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he's got to get out with him. He's got to get out with him. He's got to. He's got to. He's got to be closer. Now. You got to realize Noah hadn't run a whole lot of hundred meters. He hadn't run a whole lot of 100 meters. He hadn't run a whole lot of anything this year, actually, to be honest. But the question is how, how fit? Now he. He looked good at the trials. You know what, the way he looked at Kenny Banera.
- [40:31]
Chad Ochocinco
Kenny came in third. Kenny came in third today, huh?
- [40:36]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Yeah. But he's got to be. He's got to be closer because like I said, Ocho, nine, seven, ain't catching. Nine, seven, nine, seven. Could catch nine, eight, five or nine, nine. You ain't catching nine, seven, nine, seven, nine, seven. If he get out like that, like he got out. Man, I can't wait for track and field, man. Man, I get hyped.
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Shannon Sharpe
VGW Group void where prohibited by law. 21 + terms and conditions apply. Terry McLaurin came off the PUP list amid contract tensions with the Commanders. Despite the contract standoff holdings trade requests, Terry McClure will soon be practicing with the Commanders. The team announced today that he has been activated from the PUP list. Ocho Could Terry removal from the pub list mean contract extension is on the way?
- [43:07]
Chad Ochocinco
Probably. Something is looming. They're almost there. It's probably not where it needs to be, but the fact that they think they gonna practice is is a good thing. He'll be able to get two weeks under his belt. If I'm not mistaken, he'll be able to get two weeks under his belt before he's able to play. Before he was able to play in a live game. Which would be September, I'm assuming. What? September what? 7th maybe or 13th?
- [43:33]
Shannon Sharpe
What happened? What that?
- [43:36]
Chad Ochocinco
No, in the live game. A real game. He didn't miss. He didn't miss the preseason.
- [43:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [43:43]
Chad Ochocinco
Definitely not Gonna play Week 3, the last preseason game.
- [43:47]
Shannon Sharpe
No.
- [43:48]
Chad Ochocinco
So I'm hoping, I'm hoping I I pray once he gets paid, no setbacks, no injuries. It's going to be so different. It's going to be so different. The fact that he wasn't able to go through training camp and oh, you.
- [44:03]
Shannon Sharpe
Took the word right out my mouth. I I'm saying to myself, and I'm thinking to myself and I say, I know Ojo thinking this man, I could not imagine not playing a meaningful game in eight, nine months in my first, in my first real game is going to be that. I couldn't imagine it. Ocho.
- [44:20]
Chad Ochocinco
I would I wouldn't want that. I wouldn't want.
- [44:23]
Shannon Sharpe
No, no.
- [44:25]
Chad Ochocinco
Honestly, I would tell my agent, listen, if we get this deal done, I'm gonna go practice. If there's a chance that we get this deal done, I'm gonna go practice. Cause I need people pushing, I need people pulling. I need to be fighting through contact work. Right? Man, forget that, man. Tell you the body would tear up. The body will tear up. Trying to go from 0 to 100 without putting it through that. That rig of my road. That's what I'm going to call it. I don't know. I don't even know if it works.
- [44:56]
Shannon Sharpe
You got. You got to. You got to condition your body for the stresses that is going to endure during the season. In order to run fast, you got to practice fast. You hear what she said? Hey, I wanted to be on the ground. It's hard. Would you miss that kind of time, Ocho? You're not going to miss that kind of time and just pick right up. It's just not. You sit and I agree with you. You kind of like, you just hold your breath like, man, please, no soft tissue injury. No soft tissue injuries, please. No groin, no quads, no hamstring, no. No calves, no adductors. None of that. Because like you said, Ocho, you going just like that. You've been cruising. You've been cruising, and then all of a sudden.
- [45:50]
Chad Ochocinco
Out the blue and what normally happens. Something got to give.
- [45:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep, man. But hopefully they can come to an agreement real soon. The Philadelphia Eagles and the Kansas City Chiefs could make NFL and Super bowl history this upcoming season. There have only been one instance in which two franchises have played each other three times in the super bowl, and that's the Dallas Cowboys. Pittsburgh Steelers. 75, 79, 95. The after the Eagles face one another, two of the three big games the Chiefs are currently to have the highest odds to be a matchup for Super Bowl. What is that, 60? 60 in February of 2026. This will make the franchises the second of their kind to play one another on three separate occasions. On the biggest stage to add no other quarterbacks in the history. No quarterbacks have ever faced each other three times in the Super Bowl. Something Jalen Hurts and Patrick Mahomes have a chance to do.
- [46:53]
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, it sounds good, but you want me to tell you, coming out of. Coming out of the AFC this year.
- [47:01]
Shannon Sharpe
You got to worry about winning your division. You ain't coming out of nowhere.
- [47:06]
Chad Ochocinco
Have you noticed the Bengals have been playing in the preseason right? Y. I just want to make.
- [47:13]
Shannon Sharpe
All I know. All I know is when L. Jack is on the field, Cincinnati came in.
- [47:17]
Chad Ochocinco
I just want to remember.
- [47:19]
Shannon Sharpe
When L. Jack if on the field, Cincinnati can't win.
- [47:23]
Chad Ochocinco
This is the new year. You think about the past. I'm trying to understand why you think about the past. And this is 20. If we. We in 2025. You telling me what the.
- [47:32]
Shannon Sharpe
The.
- [47:32]
Chad Ochocinco
The. The Baltimore Ravens did in the past? I know what's gonna happen this year.
- [47:36]
Shannon Sharpe
History.
- [47:37]
Chad Ochocinco
The Cincinnati Bengals for the first time in years have let the starters play in the preseason. That's to let you know that there's going to be a difference come week one when the regular season starts. So what the Ravens did last year or any years before that don't mean nothing and don't matter when it comes to football season in 2025. Yeah.
- [48:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Your defense still suspect team record after winning the MVP in 2016. Here's we go. Cam won the MVP in 2015. 2016 there was 6 and 10. Matt Ryan wanted. In 2016 they were 10 and 6. In 2017, Tom Brady wanted. In 2017 they were 11 and 5. Patrick Mahomes wanted. In 2018 they were 12 and 4. Lamar Jackson. In 2019 they were 11 and 5. Rogers wanted back to back years. In 2020 they were 13 and 4 and. And in 2021 they were 8, 9. Mahomes won it again in 2022. 11 and 6. Lamar Jackson. 2023 there was 12 and 5. Josh Allen. 2024 will remain to be seen what their record would be. Well, look, what you think the record's gonna be.
- [48:55]
Chad Ochocinco
The. The Bills.
- [48:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [48:58]
Chad Ochocinco
Right. Listen, they're gonna be. Wait, they're gonna be way above 500. I could tell you that.
- [49:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, that's the way to go out on the limb. Listen, if.
- [49:08]
Chad Ochocinco
If I could tell you what the Bills record was going to be, Uncle I go play the lotto because I'm gonna know the numbers.
- [49:13]
Shannon Sharpe
I. You don't have to be exact, but I'm saying they're gonna be 11 and 6. They're gonna be 12 and 5, 13 and 4, 14 and 3.
- [49:21]
Chad Ochocinco
I like 12 and 5. I like 12 and 5. I definitely. They listen. They. They knowing them and knowing Josh, especially with the chip he got on his shoulder coming off MVP season. Yeah, they might.
- [49:36]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know why he got a chip. Lamar should have a chip.
- [49:39]
Chad Ochocinco
That's a whole another conversation. I'm not even gonna bring that up.
- [49:42]
Shannon Sharpe
Lamar said they got my MVP and we add and we should have left out of there with A victory.
- [49:49]
Chad Ochocinco
Absolutely. Absolutely. They gonna be good. I think, man, the goddamn bill's gonna be in contingent every single year. Long as you got. Long as you got 17 at the helm, boy, as long as you got 17 at the helm, there's going to be. There's going to be a team. I don't know what team is going to be that's going to surprise us because the same. The same people, the same teams are going to be in a. In the hunt this year. The same team gonna be in contention.
- [50:16]
Shannon Sharpe
Same good quarterback. They got the same good quarterback.
- [50:20]
Chad Ochocinco
But then they're gonna be one team that surprises every year. There's a team that comes out of nowhere that plays extremely well. And I'm gonna go out. I'm gonna go out on a limb, probably gonna laugh at me. I told you how I felt about the Panthers, right?
- [50:36]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
- [50:36]
Chad Ochocinco
The pants and the Bears. I think the pants and the bear gonna surprise people. All right, that's it.
- [50:41]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
- [50:41]
Chad Ochocinco
That's it. People in the chat, you might laugh at me, but. But when it happens, remember who said it first. The Panthers and the Bears are gonna surprise people.
- [50:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, check this out. A 2020 study conducted found that dogs are capable of what scientists call third party social evaluation, meaning they can observe how a stranger interacts with their owner and use that information to make character judgment. Dog assesses social interaction and make moral judgment based on observation. They're not just loyal, they're socially intelligent with the ability to detect fairness, cooperation and intent when someone mistreats their human. Dogs remember. And may respond with distrust or avoidance.
- [51:26]
Chad Ochocinco
I like that. And the reason they call it man's best friend.
- [51:31]
Shannon Sharpe
That's right. That's why my boy loves. Yeah. And when people mistrust. Mistreat me. Yep.
- [51:39]
Chad Ochocinco
I see.
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Shannon Sharpe
I feel you.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [51:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Don't be doing our daddy like that.
- [51:47]
Chad Ochocinco
I would. I would love to get a dog, man, but I just.
- [51:50]
Shannon Sharpe
I. I told you. Going too much.
- [51:52]
Chad Ochocinco
I know. No, listen. If I get a dog, he won't fly with me. He'll be my emotional support animal.
- [51:59]
Shannon Sharpe
I just.
- [52:00]
Chad Ochocinco
I just. I don't. I don't. I can't. I cannot. I cannot. You tell me stories on Nightcap and I start crying if you say the right thing. When we first started the show, you talk about a dog, I'm sitting here crying. You telling about a dog that's no longer here, that ain't had no relationship with me and I couldn't take it. You think I'm going to get a.
- [52:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Dog.
- [52:25]
Chad Ochocinco
At this age? And he passed away. And I'm supposed to. Oh, hell no, man.
- [52:31]
Shannon Sharpe
I can't. I. I can't imagine being without. I can't. I can't. I can't imagine being without one. Ocho. All right, we're gonna get you out here on this one, Ocho. Now it's time for our final segment of the evening chat. It's time for Q and A. I.
- [52:46]
Chad Ochocinco
Don'T see how y' all do it, boy.
- [52:54]
Shannon Sharpe
Stu baby love tv, said, ocho, go to timeout. You know what Dylan Gabriel meant.
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Chad Ochocinco
My. Y'.
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Shannon Sharpe
All. Y'.
- [53:02]
Chad Ochocinco
All. Y' all just wanted to mean that.
- [53:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Brigitte. Brigitte Maxi said, same coach Lanning who plays golf with Stefanski. O. Don't play. Don't. Don't downplay nastiness. Plus he threw check downs all down. All. He didn't. He didn't ball. East coast cast oo Ray Charles could see he was throwing shade at your door. And Skip would say, put your glasses on.
- [53:29]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey.
- [53:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Meak of Baltimore say, maybe the coach said that to him and he repeated it. 983 made. He's been in college six years. He's had media training. We don't care if Bo Nicks was the quarterback. They share the same coach. That same language rubbed off on him. Rubbed on him. He meant it. If Shador called the press media entertainers to their face, World War III would have happened. But Dylan, they say, next question. Trade 12.
- [54:05]
Chad Ochocinco
Down there in New Orleans. We'll take care of him.
- [54:11]
Shannon Sharpe
I love CC26. Says he was taking shots at 12. Mr. Pick six. Kurt west said Dink and Dunk Dillon look less like effective Drift. Look like a less effective Jeff Garcia in that number 5 Browns jersey. € y said, are the Steelers people so mean. But they ain't playing tonight, man. They don't play. They don't play. By the Shador euro Jan said, are the Steelers a playoff team?
- [54:44]
Chad Ochocinco
Hell yeah. And I'm. And I'm not. I'm not saying that because of the goddamn quarterback. I'm saying that simply because of the defense. If they play like I know they can play with the name they got on paper, man. Absolutely.
- [55:02]
Shannon Sharpe
This question is specifically for you. He said, I love y'. All. Haven't missed an episode. Any advice for me? Re engrating. Re engrating. Reintegrate. Excuse me. Reintegrating to my wife. To my home after 6 months tour. To my wife now and 4 year old. I got less than 60 days left. Not going to lie. I'm excited. So how does he, you know, he's Been away for six months and he wants to get rein reintegrated into his home with his wife and his four month old. He wants to know what's the best way to do it.
- [55:36]
Chad Ochocinco
That's a good one, bro. That's a good one. You, you better, you better equipped to answer that than me?
- [55:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [55:44]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, be creative.
- [55:47]
Shannon Sharpe
What?
- [55:47]
Chad Ochocinco
Be creative. Be something. Do something. Do something.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, should a man been away for six months, he tried to get re. Reintegrated in his home. He's been away for six months on two.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, that's why I said do something. She's, she's not used to you doing. I don't know what that would be, you know, you know, you know what your wife like, do something you've never done before, something different. If you've been on tour that long, that means you come home with a little bag, you know, bring us something nice. Don't do them flowers, don't do them flowers and none of that. Do something different. You know, I, I don't, I, I, it's hard for me to tell you what to do because you married to her, so you know what she like. Yeah, don't, don't take my goddamn cheap ass advice.
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Shannon Sharpe
So if you was going, let's, let's see the Cambodian Queen. You going away?
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you going away. That's my baby.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, she watching too. Hey. Hey, honey.
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Shannon Sharpe
How you, so how you, how you come back? How you, how you come back and reintegrate? You know, y' all got a kid. Let's just say y' all don't. But if you got a kid, four.
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Chad Ochocinco
Years, we having twins, but go ahead, I'll let you. Yeah, we have twins. Go ahead.
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Shannon Sharpe
How that. So how, how you, how would you go?
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Chad Ochocinco
About right there. I like that. I like that. And especially when it comes to stuff like that, I'm very creative.
- [57:02]
Shannon Sharpe
Huh?
- [57:02]
Chad Ochocinco
I'm very creative. Like the first thing I'm thinking about right, right now too. They have. I've been going for six months. You've been home with the kids. I gotta tell you somewhere nice. I gotta take you somewhere nice. That's what we're going somewhere nice. You know, I want to go, I want to go to Saudi Arabia, right? They have a result, bro.
- [57:27]
Shannon Sharpe
You just got from overseas. You tried to turn around and go back overseas.
- [57:31]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, but I, I need to get out the States, Huh? I need to get out the States and I'm thinking of somewhere nice she hadn't been. Now they just got these new resorts in Saudi Arabia. Stay with Me real quick, huh? I forgot. I can't remember the name of. They look like, you know, Star wars, right? Yeah, it's like these. They almost look like Star wars. Spaceships in the middle of the ocean. Literally. I'm assuming they. They build it. Build it themselves. I. I just. I. I was just Googling it too.
- [57:59]
Shannon Sharpe
Huh? Yeah. Ocho, you just come off. Seemed like, what is a deployment? Are you meaning to tell me you're gonna turn around and go back overseas? Absolutely.
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Chad Ochocinco
I'm going somewhere nice. Huh? And when you see it.
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
When you.
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Chad Ochocinco
When I'm. When I find a link.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, you going overseas on. On a military salary.
- [58:18]
Chad Ochocinco
Me?
- [58:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [58:21]
Chad Ochocinco
Gonna limit my money, man.
- [58:22]
Shannon Sharpe
Why are you gonna. Because he's in the military. His money is limited.
- [58:28]
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, damn. Okay, not nights. Come on, now. But now you give me hype. You giving me hypotheticals. And then you hypothetically limited my goddamn.
- [58:37]
Shannon Sharpe
Funds because hypothetically, his spoils are limited.
- [58:41]
Chad Ochocinco
Well, hell, there's only so much you can do.
- [58:45]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay? Let him ball out on a budget, first of all. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe have someone, you know, I understand you probably want to see the kid, spend some time with the kid, but maybe have your mom have a grandma or family member take the kid and y' all go. Go get a little steak. What?
- [59:04]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey. Shabara Resort. Shabbara. Hey, Chat. Chat. Hey, look at that. Chat. Shabara. S H E B A R A Resort. That's. That's. That's where I would go.
- [59:17]
Shannon Sharpe
But I got some bar. I got some bar. Pizza money. That's what I got. So. Bar. You remember in the mall how they have S B A R R O, that pizza place in the mall, that's the kind of money I got. So that place, I ain't going.
- [59:29]
Chad Ochocinco
I guarantee you like it when you check it out.
- [59:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, I believe it.
- [59:34]
Chad Ochocinco
Gary.
- [59:34]
Shannon Sharpe
Gary, I guarantee you. I guarantee I won't like it when I check it out. Because you know why? Because when I check out and I see that bill, I ain't number 2,000 a night.
- [59:44]
Chad Ochocinco
And you didn't be. Your list. You didn't been. You done flew private to show it to you. Ask Jordan to show it to you. Yeah, that's like that. Hey, Chad, tell me what y' all think. Chat Shabbar Resort.
- [59:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Jordan said he might have some money because he get a housing allowance. What does he get? A grocery allowance and a per diem. So he might have a little money stashed.
- [60:05]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, it's not that much. It's a starting at 2400. What is sar? 9000. What is sar.
- [60:15]
Shannon Sharpe
What's 9000?
- [60:16]
Chad Ochocinco
And I mean, it says S in front of it, but then it said 9,000. It's all together. I, I don't know, man.
- [60:27]
Shannon Sharpe
That's your resort.
- [60:29]
Chad Ochocinco
Don't worry about it.
- [60:29]
Shannon Sharpe
That's.
- [60:30]
Chad Ochocinco
That's where I'm going. I'm thinking about. I'm, I'm, I'm ready to go now. Oh, I cursed.
- [60:39]
Shannon Sharpe
My bad, bro. I think the thing is that the first thing you do, you come home, you hug your wife, you tell her how much you love her, you tell her how much you miss her and how much you happy to be home, be back on American soil, matter of.
- [60:52]
Chad Ochocinco
Fact, get her pregnant again.
- [60:55]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Lord have mercy. Your child, you got a four year old. He or she's going to be excited to see dad, which they haven't seen in a very, very. In six months. To them, six months is six years. So I don't really know how much you know. You know, you haven't been. You haven't been around her in a long time. She haven't been around you in a long time. She's gotten into a routine. You've kind of gotten into a routine, and so you got to kind of re. Reintegrate yourself without stepping on each other, without getting in each other's way because you've been without each other for six months, man.
- [61:34]
Chad Ochocinco
Listen, man, get back in there, man. Have another child, man.
- [61:38]
Shannon Sharpe
Hello. And have mercy, man. I ain't the answer to everything. I'm sorry. Hey, Uncle Ocho, please wish my wife Carrie Happy anniversary. 11 years of marriage and 16 years together. P.S. ocho, take your time. You'll be blessed. Carrie, every underscore 1990 wants to wish you a happy wedding anniversary. Y' all been married for 11 years, a little over a decade, but you guys have been together for 16 years. That's a feat in another. So congratulations. Hopefully you get another 16 years together, and these 16 will be even better than the previous 16. Ump has baby dogs. Ocho has a baby french fry. Anyone who has a problem needs to go play on the road during rush hour. Yes, I love my dogs and Ocho love french fries and. Cause she hadn't been around, she hadn't probably seen no show. She like, hey, I want. Hey, it's my time to shine.
- [62:39]
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, you know the game tomorrow, right? I'm playing on cbs, man.
- [62:46]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, the big three.
- [62:48]
Chad Ochocinco
Make sure you tune in. So we on the. We got. We. We not on the show tomorrow, huh?
- [62:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, we got. We got the show tomorrow at 7, right? Yes.
- [62:59]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [63:00]
Shannon Sharpe
Seven, eight.
- [63:01]
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah.
- [63:03]
Shannon Sharpe
We're only tomorrow at 8.
- [63:07]
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah. Y' all see when I.
- [63:10]
Shannon Sharpe
That's. That boy. KS just responded, man, you answer, Ocho. Going to have my wife hating me. You right. You right. Yeah, bro, just take your time. It's been a minute since you guys have been together. Hey, spend some quality time. Just let her know how much you miss her. The kid. I don't know if it's a. A boy or girl. Spend some time and hey, ask her what she want to do. Maybe, hey, maybe she gonna have. Maybe she gonna have her side of the family come pick the baby up. Maybe you have your side of the family come pick together up and y' all just spend some time together. Just kicking it, Ocho. My question is, what would it be like if Michael Jackson and Prince did a song together back in the 90s? They couldn't.
- [64:00]
Chad Ochocinco
Why not?
- [64:02]
Shannon Sharpe
Who gonna sing first? I'm just being real. Who say it first?
- [64:14]
Chad Ochocinco
They would have worked it out.
- [64:16]
Shannon Sharpe
Think about it. If I'm not mistaken, there's a clip where Prince. Michael Jackson asked Prince to be in. Was it. Beat it.
- [64:26]
Chad Ochocinco
He said no.
- [64:29]
Shannon Sharpe
He said, first of all, he says, your ass is mine. You're not going to say that to me, and I'm not gonna say that to you. So the song ain't going.
- [64:43]
Chad Ochocinco
I got you. I got you. I got you.
- [64:46]
Shannon Sharpe
So again, who's singing first? It was one thing to get them the compilation together to sing We Are the World. I don't know if you remember that. 1985, we are the World. Okay, that's one thing, but you're talking about Michael Jackson and Prince. Who's singing first on the song Ocho, I got you.
- [65:11]
Chad Ochocinco
Michael's a legend. Prince is a legend. You would. You would think two people of that magnitude would be able to work as one.
- [65:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you think? And you think they. You think they got that way doing that?
- [65:25]
Melissa Jefferson Wooden
Huh?
- [65:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Is that how you. That's what you're thinking? Okay. I didn't think so. You only, only, Only Jesus in Santa Claus is bigger than Michael Jackson.
- [65:38]
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
- [65:40]
Shannon Sharpe
And he did it with no social media, no Internet.
- [65:43]
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, he didn't. He didn't need it. Could you imagine.
- [65:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Mj, the original mj? There've been a lot of MJ since. But he is the OG Guys, thank you so much for joining us tonight, man. We really, really appreciate it. You could have been anywhere. You could have been doing anything, but you chose to spend a couple of hours with Ocho and I on Nightcap. We can't thank you enough. I don't know if we, if we ever say it or we can properly adequately express our appreciation for what you've been able to do for us. So from sincerely, from the bottom of my heart and Ocho and everybody at Nightcap, thank you guys for joining us. Y' all know me, I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp, my partner and co host. That's Liberty City's own. That's Madden adjusted rating Bingo. Ring of fame artery Pro Bowler all Pro. That's Chad Ochoci Johnson. He's also french fry Father, please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And guys, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you again for your support and your continued support. Every subscriber counts. My Cognac Laportier has had new drop and this one is very, very personal to me. I've created a limited edition release to honor my brother Sterling for his induction into the Pro Football hall of Fame. It's not just a bottle, it's a tribute. It's a celebration of a legacy. And once they're gone, they're gone. The hall of Fame edition is officially live. Just head over to laportier cognac.com to grab yours while you still can. Don't miss your chance to own a piece of history and and a very, very special moment. Please go follow my media company page on all of his platforms. Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out. That link is pinned in the chat. Want to thank our very, very special guest, Melissa Jefferson Wooden for joining us all the way from Poland. She said it was five o' clock in the morning that so we can't thank you enough and we want to wish you the absolute, very, very best at the World Championships September 13th through the 21st. 21st. We'll be covering it. And she says when she wins the goal, she's gonna come back and join us because we got something special for her. So, guys, again, thank you for joining us tonight on Nightcap. We'll see you tomorrow again. Thank you. Stay blessed. Stay safe.
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Chad Ochocinco
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Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Ochocinco
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Shannon Sharpe
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Chad Ochocinco
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Melissa Jefferson Wooden
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