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Chad Ochocinco
Melody, what's up?
Romello Height
What's up, man?
Shannon Sharpe
Joining us.
Romello.
Lowe's Advertiser
What's going on, bro?
Shannon Sharpe
How you doing?
Romello Height
What's up? I'm great.
Shannon Sharpe
Congratulations on the big win. Talk to us about to see. Look, everybody heard about, man, they got all these kids out of the portal. They're going to spend a lot of money. But so you know, when you spend money, there's expectations that comes along with money being spent. And I guess you guys can say this is money well spent. But what was your expectation when the coach brought you guys your symbol, spring ball, and you got together for the summer and you're getting ready to start this season? What was coach. What was the message that coach relayed to you guys that resonated so much that you guys find yourself where you are right now?
Romello Height
Man, the first thing coach said when we got, like, he brought all the transfers in, he was like, man, everything gonna be built in that locker room. Like, the brotherhood y' all built. That's. That's what's gonna take y' all far. Like, however y'.
Shannon Sharpe
All.
Romello Height
Whatever goes on in that locker room and however y' all treat each other in that locker room, that's what's gonna take y' all from the brotherhood that y' all built.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Hey, I don't. I don't mean to be disrespectful to byu, but watching from tv, watching from home, enjoying my cigar with my coffee, was the game as easy as it looked from home as it was to you on the field? And you can be respectful. I'm just. I'm just being honest. It looked like they ain't belong out there with y' all at all, bro.
Romello Height
Honestly, that first quarter, they gave us, like, they best. They best plays. Like, yes, that first job they scored on us, they gave us their best plays they had.
Chad Ochocinco
Right?
Romello Height
So after that, we adjusted.
Odoo Advertiser
We. We.
Romello Height
Like I said, we adjusted. We figured everything out, and we. Everything was on point after that.
Shannon Sharpe
So what was. What was your expectations? Because obviously, there was a lot of hype, and people started talking about Texas Tech, and Texas Tech hadn't been talked about like this since Patrick, my homeboy, was there at quarterback. And so now you guys are being talked about like, okay, let's watch out for this team. This team can make the college football playoffs. What was your expectations coming into the college football season?
Romello Height
Oh, man, my expectation was the, you know, just work towards my goals and work towards the team goals. That was get towards the Big Turtle Championship. And. Yeah, man, like. Like you said, like, man, they spent so much like people say they spent so much money on.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, you know, you got some of it. Don't pretend like you ain't getting none of it. I talk about. They. They say. They say who they is.
Romello Height
Man. Like, it was a lot of weight on our shoulders, honestly. Like, man, everybody was. Man, they spent all this money on this roster. How are they going to really play? Like, how are they going to really play when it comes down to them being on the field? Are they going to live up to the expectations that everybody have, like, have on them? Right? So, man, that was like, I took it serious. Like, man, I was in a lab daily. We lived in the lab. But all of the transfers that came in, they just. Bro, they different. They train the room different. Like, they. They live in the training room. They do everything. Like, everything is. Is different here, man. Like, I done been in a lot of programs, and, man, the guys around here, they just take it so much seriously. Like, right. Everything is different, man. They take it. They take it much more serious now.
Chad Ochocinco
You know, we understand what your. What your goals were, you know, from a team perspective.
Winning the Big 12 championship from a personal standpoint and what you want to accomplish, you know, leading up to the big. To the Big 12 championship and obviously going further. Have you. How many of your personal goals have you achieved so far, you think?
Romello Height
Man, one of my goals was just finishing on the QB this year. Last year, you know, I had a lot of purchases and got to the QB pretty often, but, like, I couldn't finish, so.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
Right.
Romello Height
One of my main goals was to, like, you know, just get the QB down. So I finished the regular season with probably like eight and a half, nine and a half. So, man, that's a. That's an accomplishment for me, man. I'm. I'm super blessed. I was able to, you know, get to the queue and actually finish. Yeah, and that was one of my goals, actually finishing this year when I got Romello.
Shannon Sharpe
Where you from? I'm from Dublin County.
Huh.
I'm from Glenville, Georgia. I went to Savannah State. You know, Reedsville, you know, Reeseville State Prison.
I'm south. I'm south of you. So if you 16, this hit 16 heading towards. Are you.
Romello Height
Was like an hour.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
That's exactly how far I am. Yeah, that's exactly how far I am. I come up 23. Hey, I come up 23. Hit 16 straight up to the crib. Atlanta, pass through Jordan, pass through Dublin all the time. West. West Lawrence, as a matter of fact. DT Damarius yeah, baby.
Yeah. Okay. You running 478?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I'm from 78, too.
Romello Height
Then transferred back to Dublin.
Shannon Sharpe
So where you. Where you. Where were you from before you transferred back?
Romello Height
I went to West Lawrence.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, baby, okay, you went to West Lawrence, then you transferred back to Dublin. Oh, okay. Okay. That's what's up.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I. Yeah, I. I. Me, too.
Shannon Sharpe
I was at Dublin one year.
Hey, let me. Where you from?
Chad Ochocinco
Huh?
Romello Height
Where you from?
Chad Ochocinco
I'm down here in Dade County. I'm from Liberty City.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Okay.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Is it. Y' all got some boys from Florida on the team.
Romello Height
We got. Look, we got a little. Reggie, I think he from the. Oh, he from Orlando.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Shannon Sharpe
What made you decide to go to Texas Tech.
Man?
Romello Height
Honestly, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, the nil. Okay, I got you. I got you.
Romello Height
See, it wasn't even like that. I wanted to stay at Tech bad, man. But, man, I don't want to get into all of that, but it was just. It was. It was bad, man.
Odoo Advertiser
They.
Chad Ochocinco
They said.
Romello Height
Honestly, they said. I didn't. I didn't, like play how they wanted me to play.
Shannon Sharpe
You want. You. You want to go to Georgia Tech, or you want to go to Georgia?
Romello Height
They overpaid me, and I. I was. I wasn't getting.
Shannon Sharpe
Last year. Georgia.
Romello Height
I was in Georgia.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn. You. You. You're smart. You got. You got good handle. You okay?
Romello Height
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
DT baby with the Tech. Calvin Johnson, actually, Roman Reigns went to Georgia Tech.
Romello Height
Yeah. I ain't even know that.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. So you go to Georgia Tech, you got a little. You know, you get a little something something, they break you off. A little something something. They say, well, hold on. You. You ain't. You ain't living up to what we say. Okay. Later for y'. All. I'm finna go on somewhere that's gonna really appreciate me. It gonna break me off again. But I'm gonna take this, what y' all gave me.
Romello Height
Amen. Amen.
Shannon Sharpe
So what. What you driving? What you got, Texas? What you driving?
Chad Ochocinco
A Lambo.
Romello Height
Oh, man, I wish. I wish I had like y', all, but, man, I got a. I got a TRS. Truck I just wanted to keep.
Chad Ochocinco
He got money?
Romello Height
Nah, it ain't even like that. I got out here in the country, and, man, I seen Autumn, them trucks, and I wanted to get me a truck, so I'm right around the truck.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay. So.
Shannon Sharpe
So you. So you outdoors. So you. You hunting, you fishing? What. What is that? So in Lubbock. What is there to do in Lubbock? What. What. What What y' all got going on out there.
Romello Height
It ain't. It ain't. It ain't too much to do out here, but you know, B, man, that's how.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. That's a great place.
Romello Height
I feel like that's good for me. That's what I'm saying. I feel like that's good. Like, it's good that I'm focused. I'm able to lock in more. I'm able to live in the facility. Like, that's all I got. That's all I feel like I got here is the facility. That's all I got here.
Chad Ochocinco
So.
Shannon Sharpe
So hold on, hold on, hold on.
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on, hold on. I. Listen, I know you love the game of football, right? I know you locked in. I know you trying to achieve your goals, but you got to be able to have some fun, though. I mean, what. What you do to reset?
Romello Height
I mean. I mean, man, you know, you know.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I reset. Yeah, yeah, we know, we know. You ain't got to say no more, Romello. You ain't got to say no more. We know how you reset.
Romello Height
Yeah, but, man, I. I feel like I don't grew out of that. That already.
The college. The college life.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, I got you.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, we. We understand. We understand.
Romello Height
Yeah.
That bar life get old, man.
Shannon Sharpe
There's a. There's a great chance that you guys gonna probably have a buy. How often are you going to be able during the buy? Has coach told you anything? I guess you guys are just waiting for tomorrow to see how this thing shapes up. Do we get a buy? When are we going to play? What bracket are we going to be in? Will you get a chance to get home? I don't know if you got a chance to get home for Thanksgiving. Have you gotten a chance to get home or when will you get a chance to get home?
Romello Height
Yeah, I got a chance to go home.
We all got a chance to go home before Thanksgiving. We had a little bottle on Thanksgiving, so we gotta. We gotta go home right there. And I think we're gonna have a. I definitely think we should be having a bot, but we're gonna figure that out at 10:30 in the morning.
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So if you get about. You're gonna go home or you just gonna stay there? Are you gonna stay there and chill? What you gonna. What you gonna do with your. Your free time.
Man?
Romello Height
I think I'm. Stay out here, man.
Shannon Sharpe
I like that.
Romello Height
Just recover, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, there you go.
Shannon Sharpe
All right. Ain't nothing wrong with that, man.
So mellow. Congratulations, man. Great season thus far, but you didn't come this far.
Romello Height
What's up? What's up, man?
Shannon Sharpe
Romello, what's going on, bro? How you doing?
Romello Height
What's up? I'm great.
Shannon Sharpe
Congratulations on the big win. Talk to us about to see. Look, everybody heard about, man, they got all these kids out of the portal. They're gonna spend a lot of money. But so you know, when you spend money, there's expectations that comes along with money being spent. And I guess you guys can say this is money well spent. But what was your expectation when the coach brought you guys your symbol, spring ball, and you got together for the summer, and you're getting ready to start this season? What was coach. What was the message that coach relayed to you guys that resonated so much that you guys find yourself where you are right now?
Romello Height
Man, the first thing coach said when we got, like, he brought all the transfers, and he was like, man, everything gonna be built in that locker room. Like, the brotherhood y' all built. That's. That's what's gonna take y' all far. Like, however y'. All. Whatever goes on in that locker room and however y' all treat each other in that locker room, that's what's gonna take y' all for the brotherhood that y' all built.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Hey, I. I don't. I don't mean to be disrespectful to byu, but watching from tv, watching from home, enjoying my cigar with my coffee, was the game as easy as it looked from home as it was to you on the field? And you can be respectful. I'm just. I'm just being honest. It looked like they didn't belong out there with y' all at all, bro.
Romello Height
Honestly, that first quarter, they gave us, like, they best. They best plays. Like, yes, that first job they scored on us, they gave us their best plays they had. So after that, we adjusted.
Odoo Advertiser
We.
Romello Height
Like I said, we adjusted. We figured everything out, and we. Everything was on point after that.
Shannon Sharpe
So what was. What was your expectations? Because obviously, there was a lot of hype when people started talking about Texas Tech, and Texas Tech hadn't been talked about like this since Patrick, my homeboy, was there at quarterback. And so now you guys are being talked about like, okay, let's watch out for this team. This team can make the college football playoffs. What was your expectations coming into the college football season?
Romello Height
Man, my expectation was to, you know, just work towards my goals and work towards the team goals. That was get towards the big TUR championship. And, yeah, man, like, like you said, like, man, they spent so much. Like people say they spent so much money on.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, you know, you got some of it. Pretend like you ain't getting none of it. I talk about, they. They say. They say who they is.
Man.
Romello Height
Like, it was a lot of weight on our shoulders. Honestly. Like, man, everybody was. Man, they spent all this money on this roster. How are they going to really play? Like, how are they going to really play when it comes down to them being on the field? Are they going to live up to the expectations that everybody have, like, have on them? I mean, so, man, that was like, I. I took it serious. Like, man, I was in a lab daily. We lived in the lab. The. All of the transfers that came, man, they just. Bro, they different. They train the room different. Like, they. They live in the training room. They do everything. Like, everything is. Is different here, man. Like, I done been in a lot of programs and, man, the guys around here, they just take it so much seriously. Like, right, Everything is different, man. They take it. They take it much more serious now.
Chad Ochocinco
You know, we understand what your goals were, you know, from a team perspective, winning the Big 12 championship from a personal standpoint and what you wanted to accomplish, you know, leading up to the big. To the Big 12 championship and obviously going further. Have you. How many of your personal goals have you achieved so far, you think?
Romello Height
Man, one of my goals was just finishing on the QB this year. Last year, you know, I had a lot of personal and got to the QBR pretty often, but, like, I couldn't finish, so.
Chad Ochocinco
Right, right.
Romello Height
One of my main goals was to, like, you know, just get the QB down. So I finished the regular season with probably like eight and a half, nine and a half. So, man, that's a. That's an accomplishment for me, man. I'm. I'm super blessed. I was able to, you know, get to the queue and actually finish. Yeah, and that was one of my goals, actually finishing this year when I got Romello.
Shannon Sharpe
Where are you from.
Down the road from your boy, huh?
I'm from Glenville, Georgia. I went to Savannah State. You know Reeseville. You know, Reeseville State Prison?
I'm south. I'm south of you. So if you 16 this. Hit 16 heading towards.
Romello Height
Are you Was like, yes, yes.
Shannon Sharpe
That's exactly how far I am. Yeah, that's exactly how far I am. I come up 23. Hey, I come up 23. Hit 16 straight up to the crew of Atlanta. Pass through Jordan, pass through Dublin. All the time. West, West Lawrence. As a matter of fact. DT Demarius.
Romello Height
Yeah, baby. Well, Lord.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, okay. You brought the 478.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Romello Height
Then transferred back to Dublin.
Shannon Sharpe
So where'd you. Where you. Where were you from before you transferred back?
Romello Height
I went to West Lawrence.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, baby, okay. You went to West Lawrence, then you transferred back to Dublin. Oh, okay. Okay. That's what's up.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I. Yeah, me, too.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, let me. Where you from?
Chad Ochocinco
Huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Where you from?
Chad Ochocinco
I'm down here in Dade County. I'm from Liberty City.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Okay.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Is it. Y' all got some boys from Florida on the team?
Romello Height
We got. Look, we got little Reggie. I think he's from the. Oh, he from Orlando.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay. Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Shannon Sharpe
What made you decide to go to Texas Tech.
Romello Height
Man? Honestly, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, the nil. Okay, I got you. I got you.
Romello Height
See, it wasn't even like that. I wanted to stay at Tech bad, man, but, man, I don't want to get into all of that, but it was just. It was. It was bad, man.
Shannon Sharpe
They.
Romello Height
They said. Honestly, they said. I didn't. I didn't, like, play how they wanted me to play.
Chad Ochocinco
Wow.
Shannon Sharpe
You want. You. You want to go to Georgia Tech.
Romello Height
Or you want to go to Georgia? They overpaid me, and I. I wasn't getting.
Shannon Sharpe
Georgia.
Romello Height
That was a Georgia.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn, you. You. You're smart. You'll get. You got good handle. You okay?
Romello Height
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
That's what. DT Baby went to Tech. Calvin Johnson, actually, Roman Reigns went to Georgia Tech.
Romello Height
Yeah. I didn't even know that.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. So you go to Georgia Tech, you got a little. You know, you get a little something something, they break you off. A little something something. They say, well, hold on. You. You ain't. You ain't living up to what we say. Okay. Later for y', all, I'm gonna go on somewhere that's gonna really appreciate me and gonna break me off again, but I would take this, what y' all gave me.
Romello Height
Amen.
Shannon Sharpe
So what you driving? What you got? Texas? What you driving?
Chad Ochocinco
A Lambo.
Romello Height
Oh, man, I wish. I wish I had like y', all, but, man, I gotta. I got a TRS. Truck I just wanted to keep.
Chad Ochocinco
He got money.
Romello Height
N. It ain't even like that. I got out here in the country, and, man, I seen all them trucks, and I wanted to get me a truck, so I'm right around them truck.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
So. So you. So you outdoors. So you. You hunting? You fishing? What. What is that? So lic. What does that do in Lubbock? What. What. What. What y' all got going on out there?
Romello Height
It Ain't it. Ain't it Ain't too much to do out here, but you know, Bo, man, that's how.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. That's a great place.
Romello Height
I feel like that's good for me. That's what I'm saying. I feel like that's good. Like, it's good that I'm focused. I'm able to lock in more. I'm able to live in the facility. Like, that's all I got. That's all I feel like I got here is the facility. That's all I like that I got here. So.
Shannon Sharpe
So.
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Listen, I know you love the game of football, right? I know you locked in. I know you're trying to achieve your goals, but you got to be able to have some fun, though. I mean, what you. What you do to reset?
Shannon Sharpe
I mean.
Romello Height
I mean, man, you know. You know?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I reset. Yeah, yeah, we don't. We know. You ain't gotta say no more, Romelo. You ain't gotta say no more. We know how you say it.
Romello Height
There's some spots.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Malcolm Gladwell
Yeah.
Romello Height
But, man, I. I feel like I don't grew out of that. That already.
The college, the college life.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, okay, okay, okay. I got you.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, we. We understand. We understand.
Romello Height
Yeah.
That bar life get old, man.
Shannon Sharpe
There's a. There's a great chance that you guys gonna probably have a buy. How often are you gonna be able during the buy if coach told you anything? I guess you guys are just waiting for tomorrow to see how this thing shapes up. Do we get a buy? When are we gonna play? What bracket are we gonna be in? Will you get a chance to get home? I don't know if you got a chance to get home for Thanksgiving. Have you gotten a chance to get home or when will you get a chance to get home?
Romello Height
Yeah, I got. I got a chance to go home.
We all got a chance to go home before.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Romello Height
We had a little body for Thanksgiving, so we gotta. We gotta go home right there. And I think we're gonna have a. I definitely think we should be having a bot, but we're gonna figure that out at 10:30 in the morning. Facility.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. So if you get about. You're gonna go home or you just gonna stay there? Are you gonna stay there and chill? What you gonna do? What you gonna do with your. Your free time.
Chad Ochocinco
Man?
Romello Height
I think I'm. Stay out here, man.
Shannon Sharpe
I like that.
Romello Height
Just recover, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, There you go.
Shannon Sharpe
All right. Yeah. Ain't nothing wrong with that, man.
So mellow. Congratulations, man. Great season thus far, but you didn't come this far to come this far, so you might as well. Hey, we in it. We might as well win it.
Chad Ochocinco
Finish it off.
Romello Height
Best fact, it gonna take a lot of work, but we're gonna get it done.
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely. 16. So you got 16 solo tackles, eight and a half sacks, two force fumbles. You started your career at Georgia Tech. 24, 25. Then you went to use. No. You went to USC first. Damn. You went to Auburn, too?
Romello Height
I went to Auburn first.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn.
Romello Height
Then I went to usc. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You got a lot of college gear. You got some Auburn gear. You got some USC gear, Tech gear.
Romello Height
I don't. Been to every. Every other state.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, dang it.
Chad Ochocinco
Sometimes. Sometimes you gotta.
Shannon Sharpe
So you were going to the highest building?
Romello Height
Yeah. Yeah, man. Honestly, man, like, man, the first few years, I just wasn't living right, man. Like, you know, and I was just hopping spot to spot, you know, trying to change my life. And, man, I. When I was at Auburn, like I said, I was. I was young, wasn't living right. I was just young and dumb. Right. I had to transfer, went to usc. That probably was one of the worst decisions.
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't no Cali kid. You ain't no. You ain't no candy kid.
Romello Height
Yeah, yeah. It wasn't for me. Like, man, I wasn't used to it, so went out there, man. I was still living the same lifestyle, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, I got. Oh, I got you. I got you.
Romello Height
Then, boom. That. That wasn't. That wasn't, you know, good for me, like I said. So, boom, I went back to Georgia, Georgia Tech. I was close to family and I was bettering myself. And, man, like I said, I didn't want to leave until the, you know. Yeah. Situation. And then, boom, I ended up at Tech. Totally changed. Totally different person.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, you are. You had a turkey drive in Dublin. Providing a family with free turkeys in the community. Tell us about that. How did it start? And what made you. Wanted to. What made you want to do that?
Romello Height
Oh, man, I just like you. You got to give back to your people, man. Everybody got to eat. Like, you know, like where I'm from, man, like you said, you know, about the 4 7. It's rough down there. And, man, I just wanted to give back to my people, give back to the community and, you know, help out, man. So I wanted to feed families, you know.
Shannon Sharpe
Look, now, the projections on you, a second round draft pick, obviously, you don't want to put. You don't want to put too much on that because there's still unfinished business over the next month or so that you need to take care of. But as. But as you start to prep and you start this journey where. Because ultimately, you know, hey, I'm sure your lifelong dream was to play in the National Football League, play college ball, and then play in the National Football League so you could really secure your family and help your mom, dad, and family out and, you know, help your community even more when you get more finances. So have you. Have you allowed yourself to think about that, what it's going to be like to hear your name called, that you're going to be playing for One of the 32 teams in the NFL?
Romello Height
Yeah, I have. Of course. It crossed my mind all the time. But, man, I just be trying to live in the moment, man, just living the present life and just, you know, take it day by day and keep stacking days, man. That's all I could do. So, you know, I still got to. I gotta go train. I got. I got. I got a long process, so, man, I just been taking it day by day and stacking days, man.
Shannon Sharpe
I love that, man. Congratulations on the. On the Big 12 championship. I believe you guys are gonna have one of those four buys. Best of luck. Stay healthy and good luck. Hey, you know, we always. The Georgia boys. You know how we a. We stick together. When them dirty boys drop, we hit. They everybody hit the flow. Cause they know what's up.
Romello Height
Come on, man. Come on now.
Shannon Sharpe
478 in the house. Romello height. Thank you, man, for joining us. Congratulations on the season, stay healthy, and good luck down the road, man.
Romello Height
All right, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Appreciate you, Rock, man. You know what I'm saying? We get a. Hey, I like that. We get them Georgia boys on here, man. 478. That's what we do. Y' all see, we in the house.
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Chad Ochocinco
Hello.
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Yeah. Wow.
Malcolm Gladwell
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Shannon Sharpe
Georgia athletic department is headed to court. They're trying to recoup $390,000 in damages from a former standout, defensive end, Damon Wilson, who transferred from the school after his sophomore season. Currently the top the top pass rush on Missouri's defensive line, Wilson played for Georgia as a freshman and sophomore before transferring to Missouri in January, two weeks after signing a new deal with Georgia Classic City Collectives Many schools and collectives have started to include liquidated damages and clauses in their contracts with athletes to protect their investment in players and deter transfers. Georgia is one of the first program to publicly try to enforce the clause by filing lawsuit against the player. Several attorneys who have reviewed the athlete nil contracts for ESPN in the past say they believe school and their collectives are uses using liquidated damages claw in bad faith to punish players who break their contract early. Ocho, I told you. Yeah, did I tell you this? I said you get the people money and then jump, jump, jump. I said they gonna do something about this. Oh, so we just had this conversation. Yeah, yeah, we did.
Chad Ochocinco
And that's not right now. I understand. I understand that that's a good thing. That's a good thing. And honestly, I think if players are going to leave, if you're going to jump ship, get them people their money back. Get them people their money back. So you can't double dip. It's not no problem. And whatever school you're choosing to go to, they should make sure they take care of you. Okay, you know what, if you got us to get that 390 back, don't worry about it. We'll give you what we giving you and we'll put that 390 on top of it. If you really, really who you say you are, it shouldn't be no problem.
Shannon Sharpe
It look, it's kind of like if there's what they call a buyout. If a coach get fired, he have years left, they gotta pay him. If he wants to leave and go to another college, you got to pay them, you got to pay the school that you leaving. That. That's generally how it works there or. Here's the thing, Ocho, normally in, in media, if you try to go somewhere else, it's a, what you call, they have a non compete. So if you at you at one of the major networks and hey, you like, well, I want to go over here, they say, well, you, hey, you ain't gonna take this money and they'll let you go, but you ain't gonna be able to do both. Or if they, if they fire you, they might have a non compete written in. So you get fired. One place you might have a one or two or three year non compete where you can't get a rival network. But I agree, I agree with you. I think the thing is if you take their money, just give the money back, whatever, whatever is left, and then you go ahead and move on. But to be able to keep the money and not fulfill the obligation of playing, it doesn't, it doesn't seem, it doesn't seem right.
Chad Ochocinco
No, that's, that's not ethical. That's not ethical at all. That, that is basically stealing. That's scamming. And I'm glad that, that colleges were, Georgia specifically is, is standing up and, and players should understand, make sure before you get that nil money that's exactly where you want to be. Make sure it's exactly where you want to be. You know, because when once they invest in you, they want to return on that investment, if you want to up and leave, you have to make sure you understand before you spend them people money, they gonna want it back. If you choose to up and you choose to uproot yourself and go somewhere else.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, look, we knew that, Ocho. I told you, I said, oh, they're gonna do something about this. They're not gonna just let you take their money and just go somewhere and go get some more money.
Two weeks that you and I was having this conversation.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, you're right. You're right. Two weeks ago. Two weeks. Two weeks ago. Exactly.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, today, honestly, it's Tough. You know, I.
Look, you're dealing with 17, 18, 19 years. They don't really understand the ramifications of like, you know. Yeah, this is the first time they're kind of like making real money. Ocho. They're not really into the job market. You know, it's not like, you know, I'm playing football, but they're paying me to play. So they don't really understand how contracts and things of that nature work.
Chad Ochocinco
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
But you know, hopefully you have representation that that reads all the fine print.
I just think the thing is Ocho is.
They need to do something about these agents that what they need to do. These agents taking 20% of these kids money. Ocho, 20.
Chad Ochocinco
20 is a high number.
Shannon Sharpe
When the NFL, they only take 4%. 3. 3 to 3 to 4%.
Chad Ochocinco
Right? Yeah.
That don't even sound right. So whoever get. Whoever getting. I almost said the wrong word. But whoever is getting taken advantage of where agent is taking 20 of your money. It should.
Shannon Sharpe
That.
Chad Ochocinco
That shouldn't. That's. That's a.
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Chad Ochocinco
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Joe. Brian Schottenheimer said he will have a conversation with George Pickens about the social media post in which has since been deleted in response to criticism received from Richard Sherman. Sherman said Pickens look uninterested and disengaged during the Cowboys 44:30 loss to the Lions. I know somebody else that said that. Now I don't have the luxury of Sherm like watching it because I just got to look at, you know, got to look and try to look at what I see. Sherm is actually there pick his delete Decided to cut clap back at Sherman before deleting the post.
This is a team game.
Laugh my tail off. I'm not the only one on the team stop becoming an analyst and talking about one player when he playing a team game. Lots of ish has to go right explosive plays. It's funny cause I thought former players would know that such as Richard, you know. Hoo ha. You know what Sherman who between a ish without legion of boom. We all remember San Francisco brother. Much love.
I mean he got the ninjas. Don't speak on me unless you know the game of football as a player not a D riding fan analyst that act like double team is not a thing or certain bracket coverages don't exist. Knowing you play ball which show me you a leech weirdo Now Twitter eat this up cloud Ocho. Yeah, I told you this. I said oh, Joe. He drifted and he seemed disinterested. Did I chat? Did I not say that. I said that, Ocho. And when they show. No, if you watch Sherman, when he showed it, you tell me he was busting his ass, Ocho. Cause you told me we weren't gonna have this problem, Chad. Ocho say he had a cup. Hold on. Ocho said he had a. He had a call with Young Bull, and I guarantee you you won't have those issues that he had in Pittsburgh. That's what Ocho said. Chat. Go ahead, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
Take off now. We don't have one problem.
Shannon Sharpe
We shouldn't have any.
We shouldn't have any.
What do you mean? We got one problem? One small.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, one small.
Shannon Sharpe
You saw the man walking up the damn ball, Ocho. The ball landed right here. He didn't even stick his hands out. And you said one.
Romello Height
Oh.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, the. The deep ball.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, the deep ball. What about the slant routes that he walked off? What about the comeback they took his ass out of the game for. What do you mean, one.
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I. I got. I got to. Ready. I got to register back to the. To the Cowboys game. I. I remember. I remember a few plays. I remember a few plays. I know what you're talking about. Where it. It doesn't. Doesn't look like he's coming off the way he should be or running his routes as hard as they should be. Remember the comeback? Remember the comeback? Reed was able to knock down the deep ball, fell inside a little bit. He beat the double coverage. Oh, the dig route. What's the. What you call the mini dig, huh? Yeah, the mini dig. He would have had to. He would have hugged. He had to hug that back really friendly. And the only way to get back to the ball, you have to be coming off the ball hard on that one, too.
Yeah, those three, I do remember, so. Yeah. Yes, you. You are correct. You are correct.
Shannon Sharpe
That's the only ones you remember. There were more. The ball. He got picked.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, the. The. The bounce off the.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, the one he was half ass. Yeah, the one he was half ass. Yeah, that one. Yep, that one. Yep. Yep, that one.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So that's the comeback on the sideline. It was four down.
Started walking towards him like, what are you doing, Ocho? I get it. Bracket coverage. That should mean you should bust your ass even more, because. What about the time that you're getting the ball and guys are busting their ass for you to lift coverage off of you?
Chad Ochocinco
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
So you can't say because they're bracketing me. Because they're. They're doing this exotic coverage like, oh, that gives you the leeway to walk the bull job. No, Right.
Mandy Woodruff Santos
But you.
Chad Ochocinco
You know what? Also too. You know what I want to say also too. And I know, I know Pick probably gonna see this. You have to understand is he's such a immense talent, and Dak knows that the rules don't even count for you. There may be two or three players. Even if you are bracketed, knowing what you can do once the ball is thrown your way, if it's in the vicinity, you can still make that play. So for everybody else, when they bracketed, they know the ball ain't coming. But when someone like you is bracketed, you know, when they playing high and low, oh, the ball is still.
Shannon Sharpe
What happened in Philly? Ojo, on that deep ball in Philly, they had him double covered.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Dak threw it. He jumped up and caught it.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, and. And that's why in this game, in this game, you like, man, listen, we don't care about them doubling you. We don't care about you being bracketed. Then he's still gonna throw the ball. Shoot, now you know, now you know it's still coming, Especially once goddamn CD went out. Well, we ain't got no choice, but.
Shannon Sharpe
We got to have you, I tell you.
Chad Ochocinco
Well, we got. We got to have you.
Shannon Sharpe
He should. First of all, Flournoy, look at Flannoy coming there, hustling, getting it.
My problem is, is that. Yeah, he's so talented. Is that coverage don't dictate how hard I work. You see, he's letting coverage dictate how hard he works. Ocho, you work hard. Okay, double. I'mma beat this double coverage because I'm Oo. First of all, I don't even see you. I don't even know why you. I don't even know why you here. I don't even know why you here.
You can't do that. Coverage doesn't dictate. The defense doesn't dictate how hard I work. I get to determine that if the quarterback doesn't throw me the ball, the quarterback doesn't throw me the ball. But I'mma bust it every time. Because the last thing I want to happen, Ocho, is. And it always happens like this. When you don't bust it. That's when the ball come.
Chad Ochocinco
Ball is coming every time. But that's. That's one of the worst feelings, boy. That's one of the worst.
Shannon Sharpe
Everybody looking at you sideways.
Chad Ochocinco
And.
Shannon Sharpe
Because he's so. Ocho.
Bro. And you Hear stories about being late and doing this, and I'm like, bro, do you get it? There's an opportunity for you to make. Oh, that. That is 35, $40 million at stake. Oh, I promise I'm gonna be early to everything. I ain't missing nothing. I ain't missing nothing because I'm not gonna give them a reason not to want to give me my money or put clauses in there where they can claw back money. Yeah, that's the last thing that you want somebody to do, to put clauses. Ocho, I got a weight clause. I got a tart in this claw. I got. No, no, no, no, no. I don't need none of that. No.
No. I'm gonna be pro. How I go about my business. I'm gonna show up on time. I get it. Sometimes things happen, but things can't happen 10, 15 times a season.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, you're right.
Shannon Sharpe
You right. I. I just bad. It's just. I just hate to see guys that have this kind of talent. Like, he got special, boy. He got. I mean, talking about he got talent out the yin yang. He can high point the ball. He can. He's tremendous run after the catch. He's a big. He can play through contact. That's what you love about the guy. He can play through contact. He's not. He's not thrown off easy like people putting hands on him. And it gets him off his. It gets him off his rhythm. That doesn't bother him.
The only person that can start. The only person that can cover George Pickens is. George Pickens is him.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, that's it.
Shannon Sharpe
That's it.
That's it. George, man, you got too much talent. Don't get mad at Sherm because Sherm did his job by pointing out what you were doing. You said you wanted guys. They used to say, ex athlete says, I want guys that played the game. And while you tried to dump on Sherm, Sherm went to the Pro bowl and was an all pro in San Fran. He was. He was. He was a part of the Legion of Boom. There ain't no Legion of Boom without Richard Sherman. There's not a Legion of Boom without Cam, there's not a Legion of Boom. So that all of those. They're not interchangeable. They made the Legion of Boom. And once they started this, if that was the case, once they started breaking it up, there should be another one in there. They should. They should. It should have never. It should have never fell off. But all of them, they work together.
All I'm saying, bro, you Cannot let coverage dictate how hard you work. And after that performance that you had against the 40 against Kansas City and the one that you had against Philly, Ocho, those are just the last two. The way you had played, bro, you were second in receiving yards.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. And the funny thing about it is. The funny thing about it is, too. Is. Is. Is. Is. Now, after a game like that, we have those issues. You have those issues where you bracketed and you think the ball is not coming your way. Because I guarantee you, I guarantee you this in practice. In practice, when you're bracketed, especially in the practice, the quarterback makes the right. No, the quarterback makes the right read and the ball doesn't come to you. So when you get into the game. Oh, where they bracketing me? Well, it. I know the ball ain't coming. The hell it ain't. The hell it ain't. Folk from let that thing go, because he understands what you can do based on what you did in the past when you were double team. I'm gonna give him a shot. I'm gonna put it in the area because I know he's the one of the few individuals in the league. Just forget the team in the league that can make that plate with two people on him.
Shannon Sharpe
And the thing is, Ocho, probably they didn't anticipate this because everybody else been playing them straight up with the exception of a few coverages. But here's the thing. Yeah.
When teams wanted to get to off his game, what did they do to him early? Ocho try to frustrate him, bracket him.
Chad Ochocinco
Bracket him, and beat him up at the line.
Shannon Sharpe
And so what?
Chad Ochocinco
So racket him and beat him up at the line. And frustrating.
Shannon Sharpe
So guess what, Ocho. I got Randy Marcel. I got another receiver over there. All I'm gonna do. This is what we're gonna do. We gonna make it really tough on him for the first quarter, the first two quarters to get a pass.
Chad Ochocinco
First two quarter. Yeah, get him. Get him off his game.
Shannon Sharpe
So now what a team gonna do, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
Put somebody in his face and put somebody over top. Every time.
Shannon Sharpe
Every time that you don't want to do.
Is to let know what PC when you let people know what can make you tick, Ocho, they wind you up, make you tick when they want to. Now I know. Oh, so you. You get that little bracket cover you. Hey, we. We can frustrate you.
Chad Ochocinco
You get a little fussy, you get a little frustrated.
Shannon Sharpe
So that's what I'm gonna do to you.
Knowing I got help over the top. I'm taking away the slam.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Go ahead. Go to the top.
I got help.
That's all. That's all. Pick. Don't. Don't. Yeah, guys, y' all gotta stop thank somebody. Meat riding. Y' all gotta stop. Think y' all gotta thank somebody, bro. It's true. So let me ask you a question. Is there anything that Sherm said that was not true? Now, if Sherm said something that wasn't true, you have every right to be upset. You. Now, I want you to tell me the one thing Sherm said when he was pointing out what was going on with what you was doing. Tell him the lie that he told. Right.
Chad Ochocinco
But you know what? You know what also, too? You got to remember, you got to understand the players, too. Today's players, they don't. They don't see it as critiquing. They don't understand that we're hating on most of them.
Malcolm Gladwell
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Is. Is considered. It's considered hating in just the way. And obviously, there's a certain way to deliver it. But obviously, when the way it's delivered, it can be seen as hate, not it. I don't think today's play will ever look at it. You know what? That's so and so. He played the game. Maybe he know what he talking about. Maybe he's right. Maybe I check myself at the dough before I react. How about let me watch film first and go back and see what I look like. So maybe they see something I didn't. Damn, I was bracketed. But Dak still threw the ball. So that mean Dak actually believes in me to be able to make those plays no matter who the is covering me. Okay.
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Chad Ochocinco
All right, I got this. I know what. I know what to do. Back to the drawing board, Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
Sherm was calm. All Sherm said, you, I need you to give me better effort than this. I need especially now that CDs out. You're the guy. Not saying you're not the guy with cdn, but when cd, Dak is really going to want to lean on you. And you giving him this Sherm with as calm as he could be. I know he was. Because as players, Ocho, when we see stuff like this, we're seething. We're see the color. Come on, bro, don't. Because you messing up. Because they say, see, that's Ocho. You see, because that's what they take that say, that's why we don't give these guys guaranteed contracts. You see, if we give them that guaranteed money, Ocho they're gonna shut it off on us. That's what they'll use. An isolated incident. They'll forget the 50 guys that's playing hard all the time. They'll take the one guy that take a game off or a player two off and use it to paint a broad. Paint a big picture of everybody is like that. And it's not.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, right. Exactly. Yeah, you're right. You're right.
Romello Height
Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
And sure, Chad, I tell you, go list, go watch Sherm. And how Sharon was just as calm sharing would just explain it. Look at this route right here. Look at this. He cut. He's not busted inside. This is why the guy's able to. That's what got. Why the guy's able to break up the slam when he's on the left hand side. This is why the guy was a. Because he's not busting it all the way in there and fighting through the ball. That's why he was able to get it out. He said, throw the deep ball, bro. All you had to do was this. And people got upset with Jerry Judy. I don't think Jerry Judy could have caught that ball. It's hard for me to believe that that pit. Knowing who pick is and seeing the catches that he's made.
Ocho, I think the thing. If somebody's. You got me, you right.
That. Yeah, that's the approach pick should have taken. You know what guy? Cause you know, Ocho, you. They're playing at the gamut. Lord have mercy. Boy, I was a bull job on that play, right? The boy they gonna kill. Oh, lord have mercy.
Chad Ochocinco
And listen. And you can admit to yourself, too. You could. You could admit to yourself. You know what you. Yeah, that's me. That's. That's.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, should there have been some games? I had some great games. Passing, they're like, man, shot you ball out today. I said, boy, wait till y' all see that run blocking.
Boy, I was good and terrible. I said, lord have mercy.
Romello Height
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
But you know it, Ocho, you. Cause you know what? Guess who know you better than you? You. You know you better than anybody. We might, man, but pick. No, that's why he got so upset about it because, you know, Sherman was right. That's what we get upset, Ocho, when somebody. Right. And they got us dead to. Right. Yeah, we try to get loud to try to talk, bro. You loud.
Chad Ochocinco
You gotta fight. You get. Yeah, you got. You gotta fight back and you get defensive. Hold on.
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Shannon Sharpe
Who?
Chad Ochocinco
The cowboys play tomorrow?
Shannon Sharpe
No, the cowboys don't play tomorrow. They play. They play next Sunday or next Thursday? Next Sunday. Don't they got the Vikings?
They got Vikings on Sunday. A week from Sunday, they got the Vikings.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, okay, okay. Oh, that. Because they just played Thursday, huh? Okay. All right.
Shannon Sharpe
That's it. Sometimes, Ocho, they get you.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, that you right there. Because remember, Ocho, when they say that sky. Not. Because the sky don't. The eye in the sky, it don't care how, it don't lie back. As a matter of fact, it doesn't even know. The eye in the sky doesn't know if you black or white. All it does is capture what is being pointed at.
So you could go back and say, man, this is what I did. Okay, Cole, put that thing on. That thing. Is that you right there? What's your number?
He got a circle. Is that you?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that's me. So I asked you in the game, what did you do? You said you did this, right? So tell me if this what we was coached to do, is this what we were asked to do, right?
When they got you, they got you.
Chad Ochocinco
Ain't nothing you could do better.
Shannon Sharpe
That's what Pick's gonna have to do. Pick, because you have to understand.
You'Re trying to outrun your past.
Chad Ochocinco
Gotta get that money, baby boy.
Shannon Sharpe
I'll be on my best behavior.
Chad Ochocinco
Gotta get that money.
Shannon Sharpe
He gonna be able to get that Busy. Oh, yo, call him up. Say, don't get.
Bro, you can't get defensive. You were wrong. Yeah, and you know what? He'd have got so many people on the side. Sherm, you're right. I gotta be better than that. Because I'm a better player than what I displayed on Thursday night. Not only did I let my teammates down, not only did I let the fans down, I let George Pickens down.
Because when I walk by the mirror, I don't see Cowboys teammates, I don't see Cowboy fans. I see George Pickens. I let that guy down.
The one guy that I can count on. Even if I can't count on my teammates, I know I should. Even if I can't count on the fans, I know I can count on George Pickens. Because I know what George Pickens can do. And I let that guy, that man in the mirror, I let him down.
I would tell my teammates, bro, I'm sorry I let y' all down. Ain't no guarantee we would have won the game.
But I damn sure didn't help the cause of us winning.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
That's all you got to do, Pick. You better than this. You a much better player.
And you were doing so good.
So good.
Malcolm Gladwell
Hello.
Chad Ochocinco
Hello.
Malcolm Gladwell
I'm Malcolm Gladwell, host of the podcast Smart Talks with IBM. I recently sat down with IBM's chairman and CEO Arvind Krishna and I asked him how can companies use AI to its fullest potential to create smarter business? My one advice to them Pick areas you can scale. Don't pick the shiny little toys on the side. For example, if anybody has more than 10% of what they had for customer service 10 years ago, they're already five years behind. If anybody is not using AI to make their developers who write software 30% more productive today with the goal of being 70% more productive.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Malcolm Gladwell
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Shannon Sharpe
Cleveland plans to keep quarterback DeSean Watson on his roster into the 2026 season. According to Adam Schefter, Watson has not played since ruptured as Achilles October 20, 2024 against the Bengals. He retort the Achilles shortly thereafter. The Browns believe Watson has contributed to their quarterback room and provided a veteran presence and has had value for their rookie quarterbacks. As it is, Watson has a salary cap of $81.7 million in 26, which will be the highest in NFL history.
Ocho, check this out. Moving on from Watson would be very costly as the Browns would incur a 135 million dollar dead cap hip if they released him before June 1st and a 53 million dollar cap hit charge if they were to designate him for a post June 1 cap casualty.
Chad Ochocinco
You know what that that's crazy huh either way. Either way it goes, it's a lose lose for the Browns. So what do they do with him next year?
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, you've been his money already guaranteed. I might as well get Ocho. Let me ask you a question. If you already paid for the car. I don't even like this car no more. I'm gonna drive it. It's paid for. I'm gonna drive that mo.
Chad Ochocinco
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
I got it. I don't pay his money. Guaranteed in 26, 46 million is guaranteed. So I'm gonna see if you can win a game with two for us.
Lying on choke.
I mean, unless. Unless they really, really want him back. Gone bad. But like you said, he hadn't been a problem. He has. It hasn't been worked. It hasn't worked out as they'd hoped, but he's been. They say he's been a vet veteran presence. He's really helped the quarterback locker room.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
So you, you, you, you see him staying. You stay. You see him stand be after. After this year?
Shannon Sharpe
I do.
I do.
Chad Ochocinco
That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good.
Shannon Sharpe
Because I think they're gonna let Shador. I think they're gonna let Shador try to finish out these last five games.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes, sir.
Shannon Sharpe
And see, because they're gonna have to make a decision. Do we have the quarterback that can take the Cleveland Browns? Look what's in that division, right? You got Joe Burr and you got Lamar Jackson. I think Pittsburgh, I think Aaron Rodgers is gonna. Gonna leave this year. I think this is his last year. He's like, nah, I'm not gonna win another championship. I'm not close to winning a championship. Let me go on home. I don't took enough punishment. 20 years, 21 years. However many years he's played. I'm about to be 42 years of age. I'm good. He's done it. But you still got to compete with Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow.
Chad Ochocinco
And without a quarterback, I don't care.
Shannon Sharpe
How good your defense is, without a quarterback.
Chad Ochocinco
You don't have a chance.
Shannon Sharpe
You got the best defensive player in football, and it's not close.
Chad Ochocinco
And y' all not close to winning.
Shannon Sharpe
That division or winning a playoff game or winning a championship. So without a quarterback, you can't compete.
Chad Ochocinco
You know. You know what's funny? The Browns would be able to compete even for a championship too, without having a quarterback if they had a Miles Garrett type player at each position on defense.
I'm being honest.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. How you Gonna pay him, though.
So you have. You will have every other. Every offensive player on a rookie contract making league minimum.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, that. That's. That's. That. That's the only way. And Miles Garrett at every position.
Shannon Sharpe
According to Philly reporter Ashlyn Sullivan, the Eagles have installed a positivity rabbit in the locker room. It showed up today. And the offensive line stressed. To me they are not sad. They just wanted a good vibe. Bunny.
What? Ocho, what is this?
Chad Ochocinco
What the hell? That's the bunny?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. In the locker room.
Chad Ochocinco
You be. You being serious?
Shannon Sharpe
Hello? Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Or is this AI, no, you hold up.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know if you can see. Can you see those. Those cameras? Can you see that eagle? Do you see those super bowl logos?
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, I. I think Saquon was.
Shannon Sharpe
Talking about it at some point in time.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't understand this taking up a lot of space.
Chad Ochocinco
I know that a lot because it looked. It looked big as hell.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, hold on. Why you gotta say Happy Easter? Here we are in smack dab in December.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I think. I don't got think this. AI.
Shannon Sharpe
No, it's real.
Chad Ochocinco
Happy Easter. Easter was back in April.
Shannon Sharpe
I guess. They say y' all laying eggs.
That's what. That's what. The bunny.
Chad Ochocinco
That's funny. I mean, I guess to each his own whatever.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, they try. They try Ojo. You know they try everything, bro. Oh, you don't be in the locker room with y' all losing and you know they try some of everything.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. All the time. I know what you're talking about.
Shannon Sharpe
Try. Hey, bro, you gotta break that people superstitious but real, though.
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Y.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, if we losing. Hey, I tried. I go touch the bunny every day. Rub his head and everything.
Chad Ochocinco
Man.
Shannon Sharpe
Think I want when he would, ain't it? Oo. It's time to play a fade presented by prize picks.
Hey, hey.
All right. Joe burrow. More than 250. More than 251 passing yards.
Chad Ochocinco
More.
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Chad Ochocinco
What kind of question is that? Anytime Joe Burker plays against the Buffalo Bills, he throws for more than 250 yards. That's common.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Yeah. Okay. We go cloudy. Okay. And they got Higgins coming back. Okay, I'm going to. And Joy both. And Bernard is out, isn't it? Yeah. I'm going more.
Chad Ochocinco
They say even if he was there.
Shannon Sharpe
Even he not there. So there's that Quinn son Judkins more than. He's gonna have a touchdown. At least one touchdown.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah, of course.
Shannon Sharpe
Who the Browns play?
Chad Ochocinco
They playing the Titans.
Shannon Sharpe
J.J. mcCarthy less than 187 passing yards. Shoot who they play.
Chad Ochocinco
And hey, hey. He's so inconsistent. Ain't no telling what he gonna do.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, he out tomorrow, isn't he out? I thought he was out.
Where they play at Minneapolis.
Let me see.
How many yards the b Knicks have.
No against commanders.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey, who, who, who the Broncos play.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. JJ McCarthy. 128, 187.
He bad, Ocho. He bad.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, JJ.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but see the problem. Have a big day, all right? We're gonna go less even though I think Hawkinson could have a big day.
Zach ers more than four receptions. More. More.
No, he don't get no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's J.J. mcCarthy. You don't get to go get called by your number when you some stir fry.
And you don't get to give yourself that. You don't get to give yourself a. A name. Talking about nine, bro. You J.J. mcCarthy. You J.J.
Hey, that is reserved for veteran players.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
It'S some good games tomorrow for sure. Hey, Chicago, Green Bay, Houston. Can't be really, really good.
Man. The Commander's gonna beat. Gonna beat the, you know what out of the. The Vikings.
Seattle, oh, you know, Bangles Bank.
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Ocho. Per Chris Haynes. During the Clippers loss to the Mavs, Chris Paul told Kawhi to switch off clay because he was struggling to keep up. Jeff Van Gundy shut that down immediately. You might have had leeway in other places to change defensive coverages, but you don't have that leeway here. Video also surfaced of Ty Luke catching Chris Paul talking to his girl Ocho. Yeah, everybody tried to tell me, whoa, Shannon. That. I said, I'm telling you.
You don't get the same privileges every locker room that you go into, especially if you're not that same player able to play at that level. See, y' all talk about when you don't know basketball. I'm telling you how locker rooms function.
Right? I'm telling you, you can't take that. Say, well, I used to do this. I used to do that. Ocho. When I went to the Baltimore Ravens, I wasn't the same player, but. And I didn't have the same voice. I wasn't as outgoing, boisterous, but, you know, I would pull certain guys to the side. I ain't telling don't do this, don't do that, don't listen to the coach.
I don't know why y' all think. Go ahead, go ahead. Oo. What you thinking?
Chad Ochocinco
You, you're right, you're right. I'm understanding and I got a better understanding of it, how it works. Obviously I, I would think someone of Chris, Chris Paul's caliber, his resume, his accolades, you know, on the court, just having the respect that he does, you know, amongst his peers, I thought he would have carried a little bit more weight. But now with me talking to other NBA players, they, they, they help me understand that at that point, you know, in you get to a point in your career, we got to be self aware, which you were able to pull off when you were younger and you were that guy. It just doesn't work later on in your career. So now that I know and I'm hearing it from other players that played the game and were really good at what they do, they understand and they have self awareness and knowing that, you know what? I can't pull it off right now. I can't pull it off.
Shannon Sharpe
You don't have that. He's not that player that can do what he once did. Jeff ain't gonna say it so much. I mean, Jeff, you might have had leeway to change that, but you can't do that here. You're not gonna do that here.
Chad Ochocinco
And I understand it too. Can you imagine chasing Clay ass around off them goddamn screens and picks and having a. Having to try to squeeze through a bowl over the top? Well, you, well you, your cardio got to be on point man.
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Chad Ochocinco
Because Clay Finn and catch and shoot and embarrass you all night.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I think, I don't know if it was AI, but there was a clip that was surfaced in the back. T. Lou said F Chris Paul CP or something. Something that I just think the thing is that look he. They brought him there for leadership.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
Leadership looked different in different places. The way you led one place, that doesn't necessarily mean you can lead that way at this place. Plus, yeah, that's James Harden that, that they got a veteran club. It's not the same as when you was in OKC and you had Shay and you had all those young guns. It's different. Kawhi is proven commodity. James Harden has been an mvp. Zubas is six, seven years, seven, eight years in. They don't have a young team. So your voice is. What is needed from you is different.
At a different location than when you was in Oklahoma and You have to understand that. Understand I'm not the same CP3.
As a matter of fact, Ocho, he. Cliff Paul, he ain't Chris Paul.
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Shannon Sharpe
Cliff Paul. Who is Cliff Allstate? The State Farm agent. The other half.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, that's a good one.
Shannon Sharpe
He clipped.
Chad Ochocinco
That's a good one.
Shannon Sharpe
He forgot he thought he was Chris. No, bro, you clear right.
Doesn't have the same. Say he doesn't have the same leeway, the freedom, the liberties that Chris Paul had.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, you're right. You're right. I like that one. That was a good one.
Shannon Sharpe
Man.
You know, it had to be bad. Ocho. The man said, this is his last year. And it. And they did this at 3am in the morning. They had a conversation with this man. 3am in the morning. Do you know how bad it got to be for your team to call you at 3am in the morning and say your services, the little bit of services that you were providing is no longer needed or wanted?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
And you know, you know, we. We only get. We only get most of the. Most of the story. On surface level, there are more layers that we don't know about that are. I'm sure that is. That. That transpired that made it happen that way. And we. We know the beginning and we know the end. All the stuff in between, the good stuff that we don't know about will take will be the. A tall tale and why. Why it ended up happening like this at three in the morning.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Lord have mercy. A recent study on average sex duration countrywide is as follows. Look at the. Look at the board. Ocho. Ecuador, 24 minutes. So as y' all can see, United States is two minutes. Boy, I'm so glad I had Pakistani.
Chad Ochocinco
I. I can't. I can't.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey.
Chad Ochocinco
I can't even see that. Huh.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, you better open that good eye.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, it's open.
Shannon Sharpe
I just. Hey, look at Pakistani, 42 seconds.
Chad Ochocinco
That's what.
Shannon Sharpe
Pakistan, that's what the Average duration is.42. The United States is two minutes.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, that's me right there. That's me. I represent us very well. Because, you know, it don't. It don't. It don't take long for me to get in, in and out. I'm here. I'm here by business.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you know. You know, I'm here by business. Hey, whole Ecuador, you know, say, oh, Ecuadoria. That's what they call me.
Number one. 24 minutes.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. They ain't got your phone.
Shannon Sharpe
Ash texted to you.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, there we go. There we go. Here we go.
Shannon Sharpe
Here we go.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay. 20 from Ecuador. Cameroon. 23. Okay. Cuba. 22. Jamaica. 17. Yeah. Anything over five minutes. Yeah, you can count me out. Because, I mean, what we doing? What are we trying to accomplish?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I know what I'm trying to accomplish.
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Chad Ochocinco
Listen, I. I don't. I don't have the time. I got places to be. I got. I got places to be.
Malcolm Gladwell
Anything.
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't got nowhere to be. Hey, I got a simple motto. If I take the time to do it, I'm gonna take the time to do it right.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, I got you. I feel you. And I'm gonna take the time to do it right. Under five minutes.
Shannon Sharpe
So you might be Pakistani.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. I mean, I'm like, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, that's ridiculous. I don't even know what y' all do. I don't even. I don't even know what's really going on with Pakistan. 20 seconds. I mean, 42 seconds in and out, huh? They ain't even in and out on Cho.
Chad Ochocinco
We. We got no time for foreplay. Listen, we got. We got stuff to tend to.
Shannon Sharpe
China minute 24. Turkey, 150. US, two minutes. So what about all them guys? What about all the people that go 10 minutes, 15, 20, 30 for the average time? So let me ask you a question. Think about it, Ocho. If the Average time is 42 seconds, what about the people that just. I mean.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, my goodness.
Chad Ochocinco
That happens. That happens. Especially when it comes to excitement. First person, first time, first encounter.
Shannon Sharpe
I get that. The first time you excited, everybody excited. Right. Everybody is at their crescendo. Everybody's at the apex, the zenith, that they knew more.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So you at the highest, you could be like, oh, my goodness.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Yeah, it happens. I did. I just. To me, I'm just. I'm just being honest. For someone like myself, you know, I've been. I've been around. I've been around the moon. I didn't see the stars. I didn't climb mountains hiding Mount Everest. And anything over five minutes at that point, it becomes performative. It's as if you're putting on a show.
Shannon Sharpe
I am.
Chad Ochocinco
What you're. Yeah. I mean, what you're there to accomplish, it doesn't take 10, 15 minutes, because if it takes you that long to get there, then the person you would. You. The. The faster you learn that individual's body, the less of the time you have to be in the damn bedroom.
Shannon Sharpe
I keep doing curtain calls. You know what I'm saying? You. You talking about performative? You Talking about the art. I get a cold call. They keep clapping. I keep coming back out.
My thing. Hey, you know what? On choke. Hey, I'm staying away from Pakistani women because if they only. If you can only do 42 seconds, I want no part of that.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, where you shot?
Shannon Sharpe
I want no part of that. So let me see who here.
Chad Ochocinco
That's a good one.
Shannon Sharpe
Cameroon, 23. Bolivia, 23. Sudan, 22 and a half. 22.9. Cuba, 22. Honduras, 21.5. India, 19 point, 19 minutes and 34 minutes. Jamaica, 17 minutes. Senegal, Ghana, Venezuela, South Africa, 8 minutes. Peru, 7 minutes. Kenya, 6 minutes. Puerto Rico, 4 minutes. Oh, y' all thought we were going to Puerto Rico.
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on.
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Shannon Sharpe
We ain't going to Puerto Rico no more.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, listen, more importantly, I mean, how did they do this study? I mean, that. That's. That's. That's more concerning to me. How did they do the study? How many people were a part of this study?
Do you know how many individuals you would have to. Have to take into account and deal with to be able to, like, assess that everyone in these regions last as long.
Shannon Sharpe
We know the top 10. There ain't no Ochos in those city, those countries. We know that.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. I mean, well, I look. I look Ghanaian. I look. I look Senegalese, you know, I look Jamaican.
Shannon Sharpe
N. I think you look more Bangladeshi. Pakistani.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, that's fine. I can deal with that. I can deal with that.
Shannon Sharpe
I can deal with that.
Man. Damn. I mean, I give you OO Ecuador might be a bit much, but now can we find out? Can we find a. A happy medium? Okay, if we say 24 minutes is a bit much, I mean, we got to admit 42 seconds is not enough.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, we. Listen, we got to have balance. You got to have balance. You have to find somewhere.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, 15 minutes.
Chad Ochocinco
Ain'T no man. Anybody got time for all that, bro?
Shannon Sharpe
Huh?
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, and anybody. Come on, man, listen. You know how long one round is in a boxing fight?
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Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Do you know how long three? I'm talking about a real. Yes, That's. It's long as hell.
Shannon Sharpe
But Ocho, ain't nobody in the first round. Cause everybody feeling it out. You feeling it out?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, so you come in this Thor blow, You coming in soon as I say Bing, you just.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, no, no, no. Not really. Not really. But I. I don't think people understand you. Do you know how long 24 minutes is? Yes, like, at. Yes, exactly. That's long as hell. Like, that's just.
Shannon Sharpe
I brought on diesel. I burn on Diesel, you know, diesel fuel.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
The longer it burned, the cooler it get.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah, that's.
Shannon Sharpe
That's too much, huh? As a matter of fact, what do I. Until they came along with electricity, what the autumn. 18 wheelers burn on diesel.
Chad Ochocinco
Diesel.
Shannon Sharpe
The longer they burn, the cooler they get.
Mandy Woodruff Santos
Huh?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
International Peterbilt.
Chad Ochocinco
You're right.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm still on probation, so I'm being. Hey, chat. Y' all know I am.
Chad Ochocinco
Are you good?
Shannon Sharpe
I'm just saying, this is the eight. You warming up the way to 26.
I tell you what.
Anybody Bangladeshi or Pakistani, that watch a nightcap, we got some roast marks for you. We got roast bars for you.
I've tried. You know what I'm trying to break into. I'm trying to. You know, I'm gonna try to get my product in those countries.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay. Hey, that's a good one. That's a good one.
Shannon Sharpe
Help y' all out, because this is ridiculous.
42 seconds. It take you that to get your pants. Get your clothes off, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
It does, but you don't count that. You don't. You don't count it. You don't count it from the close off part.
Yeah, 40. I mean, 42 seconds. I mean.
Nah.
Nah.
Damn.
Shannon Sharpe
42 seconds, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, that. That's bad. But. But five minutes. Five minutes is enough. It's enough.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm timing. I'm going 42 seconds. That's what the average Pakistani have sex.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, that's good.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that's it.
Chad Ochocinco
We got two seconds left. Boom. That's it. You done. That's all you need right there, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, no. Oh, no.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, you wake up. Listen, you wake up in the morning, both of y' all got to go to work. Hey, before we leave, in and out.
I like that.
Malcolm Gladwell
I.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, Ocho. I get that. If that's a. Okay. Hey, we. Hey, we about to go to a party or we about to go to somewhere, Baby, we ain't. Baby, we gonna be late. I get that. If you want. If you want to get a quickie, right? But. Nah, man.
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, listen, every. Every culture is different. Every culture is different.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, they got plate. Oh, Ecuador. Hey, I'm from Ecuador, so I don't know what they got going on over here. I just. I just don't. You know, I'm saying, Ocho, I just speak America, but I'm Ecuadorian. I speak English, but I'm Ecuadorian. Okay?
Chad Ochocinco
I'm not. I ain't no nowhere near. I ain't got. Dang. I ain't Got that kind of time.
Shannon Sharpe
What you got? What you doing?
Chad Ochocinco
I got places to be.
Shannon Sharpe
I do, too.
Chad Ochocinco
I got.
Shannon Sharpe
After I had.
Chad Ochocinco
I got places to be.
That's too much time.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, you know what I mean? God damn it.
I mean, I know every. Ocho. I get it. Quick is a good. Quick is a good.
But not every time.
Chad Ochocinco
No, I'm. I'm. Listen, it's different.
It's different. I mean, I'm.
Shannon Sharpe
That.
Chad Ochocinco
That's. I mean, I'm five minutes or less. That's it. This. This ain't the circus. I'm not here to prove.
Shannon Sharpe
No, I get it. Look.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You know, back in the day, I was tmb. Y' all know what TMB stand. I don't need to say it. I'm still on probation. You know, I'm like the amusement park. Amusement park rides don't last for 90 seconds no matter how high they go. Some of them. They go 300ft, go 60, 70 miles an hour. 90 seconds is all you get. Give you the thrill of your life.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Give you something to. Give you something to talk about. That's it. Give you something to talk about. Something to write down in your diary.
Shannon Sharpe
But sometimes that's it.
Chad Ochocinco
And that don't. That don't. Hey, that'll. That don't take 24 minutes sometime.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm like a hundred story building. I'm stopping on every floor of the elevator.
Somebody getting old. Enough o joke. That's all I'm saying, Ocho. That's all I'm saying. You know, you own 100 story building. You got a. You got 90 flows and somebody hit the. Hit every flow in between.
Chad Ochocinco
Hit every flow. See, that's. That's too much. That's too much.
That's too much.
Shannon Sharpe
You just say it.
Well, like I said, anybody from. From Pakistan or Bangladesh, reach out to Uncle Nocho. We're gonna hook you up, get you a little sample. Get a little sample pack, get y' all going. Cause we got to boost this thing up. We got to get you over at least. At least two and a half, three minutes.
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Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
All right, Ocho. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and a.
Chad Ochocinco
Q.
Shannon Sharpe
And A.
Kimber Norwood Jr. Said, Ocho, all I want for Christmas is to have. For you to give UNC his $5900 so he can buy him a watch or an outfit. Yeah, I need. I need a crew. My outfit.
I mean, just a little criminal outfit. Just a little criminal. Some criminal, you know.
Chad Ochocinco
I got you.
Shannon Sharpe
Appreciate that, Ocho. That should be nice.
Chad Ochocinco
Merry Christmas, Big Mike.
Shannon Sharpe
7723. Coach Prime. Coach Prime. Pull up Frank Lucas in Cleveland. Don't mess with the Blue Magic.
Not. Are they playing in Cleveland. They're playing in Tennessee.
Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. I see what you're saying. Okay. Ozzy to go now. Hold on, man. I see that stat differently. I think this vows for Pakistani women over there. Ecuador women. Something tells me there is a. A Houston and Pakistan. And I'm willing to find out for all of us. What say, bro? Let me go. But let me know where you going. Let me know. Like I said, I don't want no package.
Malcolm Gladwell
They.
Shannon Sharpe
They can put it down like that. Make you do that.
Make you drop it off at 42. I want that.
Chad Ochocinco
Man.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey. Oh, you know, hot dog. Hot dog in the microwave. Two minutes gonna explode. You mean tell me you can't put a hot dog in the microwave for 42 seconds to have it explode?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, maybe. You have to think maybe over there, they're not as active as we are here in the states.
They're not. They. Maybe they're not as active. So the. The few times that they do do those horizontal interactions, that's the result. That's the only thing I could think of.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Yeah, yeah. But.
I ain't never been to Pakistan, but.
I'm willing to go.
Brandon Crow 3403 for Ohio State to have all that talent and suck in the red zone. Speaks volume to coaching. They has issue with big games, bro. The man just won a national championship. If you go back and look, he has one of the best win percentage of all coaches. How about we give Indiana a little credit? I know, I know, but Indiana is better than what you thought. Cause we was wondering. Okay, yeah, they blowing these teams out, but who have they played?
They played Ohio State on a neutral field and they beat them. You make it seem like. What about. What about IU in the red zone? Yeah, you make it seem like IU didn't get to the red zone. They kicked what? 3. What? Kicked. Kicked 2 field. Kicked 2 field goals. Missed another.
It works both ways, bro. Ohio State got our play today. Signetti and his team outplayed him. It's okay.
Nino Rogers, 89. Hey, Uncle Nocho, do you have any ridiculous or funny requests? Recruiting stories from when you were in high school.
Chad Ochocinco
Damn, I can't remember that damn high school.
Shannon Sharpe
No.
Chad Ochocinco
Right. There wasn't nobody recruiting my badass.
Shannon Sharpe
Airplane 98. Oh, you should consider interviewing Bill Bellamy or Donnie Simpson. The stories is gold. Now back to regular schedule program. Ocho, pay this man 5,900.
Chad Ochocinco
I got you. Hey, Chat.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Ochocinco
I got a joke for you.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Lord. Are we not gonna wait till the end to get the joke? Go ahead, Ojo, get the joke off.
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, it ain't that bad. Hey, Chat. Y' all, listen.
Shannon Sharpe
We listening.
Chad Ochocinco
How does a hamburger introduce his girlfriend?
Shannon Sharpe
How does a hamburger introduce his girlfriend?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Pleased to meet you.
No, how.
Chad Ochocinco
Hi. Meet Patty.
Shannon Sharpe
Chat.
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Mr. Robinson. 67, 63, 75. Duke broke the college Football playoff. Now, first time in College football history, 2G5 team making the playoffs. That college football right there.
Duke ain't going to the college football. They're not. Hold on. Do ACC get automatic bid? Yeah. Not Duke. Not Duke, though. Okay.
Kaleidoscope One feeling good tonight. Thanks, Duke. JMU is in the playoffs at the 12 seed. Go Dukes. Yeah, looks that way. Asia. Dad. Ocho. How about them dogs? Nate Frazier, that dude winning the chip this year. You need to start rooting for your home team, Unc. I'm a root for Nate Frazier.
Hoot, hoot. Dr. Bryant is not a real doctor, bro. We having a conversation. Y' all find something? I mean, is there any guests that you guys have liked? You find something wrong with every guest? I got. I mean. I mean, Oprah didn't always have a listers. She had different people. She interviewed Ku Klux Klan members. She interviewed this one. Murderers. This. She interviewed some of all people. Why do you have a problem with who I have on the platform if Dr. Bryant is not your cup of tea, just fast forward. Just don't even watch that episode.
I thought she was interesting. I enjoyed the conversation that we had. I did. I thoroughly did. Hopefully, a lot of people enjoyed the conversation, but if they didn't, that's okay.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I'd like to think I've had a. A very eclectic group of people from influencers, entertainers, athletes, celebs. I think I've had over the 150, almost 200 interviews that have done. I would like to think everybody's not going to like every person that I've interviewed.
Chad Ochocinco
No.
Shannon Sharpe
And that's okay. But I tried to find a very diverse group of people that can share their story, which she did. And I. I don't get in. Caught in that my job is not to interrupt. My job is not to be belligerent and come off as confrontational. That's not what I'm there for. They come on my platform. I allow them to tell their story unedited. I ask if there are any questions that they don't want to talk about, and I move on from there. She was fine. But if that's not who y' all guys want at least to it's fine. I'm cool with it. Maybe. Maybe you'll like the next guest we have on. If not maybe the next guest. OC underscore Lofton. Indiana 1 Georgia 2 Ohio State 3 Texas Tech 4 Oregon 5 A&M 6 Ole Miss 7 Oklahoma 8 Miami Notre Dame 9 and 10 to Lane 11, Jane Madison 12. We'll see.
We shall see. But it definitely doesn't help.
Miami. Miami lost to Louisville. And who else they lose to? They lost to somebody else. That was not very smu. Yeah. Smu.
Chad Ochocinco
Smu.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Ben Frank 87 T minus 25 days before UNC get back. You've been giving us snippets the last few weeks. Keep up the great work on your no Joe.
Chad Ochocinco
Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
26. We own LPREG 98. Add Nate to the Uncle Ocho adventures. Now we're gonna Joe gonna be in a couple of them. The Florida man Unc Ocho. Solid interview with Nate Frazier. Should try to interview kirby and visit UGA practice DEV the Dundee 74. Hopefully UNC says my name right this time. Love you guys. Uncle no show your favorite R and B song that just never gets old. That always makes you feel good. Even though it ain't 26.
I'm. I mean most of the songs that I listen to is old school.
Love Train can Function.
Sin for me. Atlantic star Lenny Williams. You know I love you. I'm just old school like that. I. I like. Who is the guy.
Ltd used to be lead singer Jeffrey Osborne. I listen to Jeffrey Osborne.
Chad Ochocinco
Jeffrey Osborne. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I've been to old school. That's all. All I listen to is the groove. When I get in my car, it's all cruise, don't listen. Nothing else. So that's what.
Chad Ochocinco
So we. Yeah, we. We on the same path. I mean my. My favorite song Obviously Lenny Williams Ltd. All those boys. Jeffrey Osborne. But I'm gonna go My favorite old school song.
Nat King Cole and it's called Nature Boy.
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Chad Ochocinco
Just listen. Listen to that. That's one Just. Just put you in the mood, man. Get you a nice cigar. Nice look, you know Cappuccino little espresso, kick your feet up and put that thing on repeat.
Shannon Sharpe
Obama phone Pro Max 5G. How about them Hoosiers? I you they did it. They're gonna be the number one suit. They're gonna be the number one seed and deservingly so.
Tony SG95 99. Y' all see that boy Pitbull tonight, Ocho? Watched a little bit of it. I was, you know, try to give you a great show here. I didn't watch Pitbull. Yeah, Vinnie the tall Georgia just looked like they can out physical anyone. I really don't see any team in the CFP winning in the trenches. Indiana. Be right there. Indiana. I. I like Georgia. And Georgia is physical. Yes, but Indiana ain't taking a backseat to nobody, bro. You watched them. You watched them.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Rare Colin. Happy holidays, uncle. No, Joe. Is it too soon to get excited about my Panthers with the Bucks playing the Saints tomorrow?
Can't look ahead. You got to take care of the a Saints defense can get after you.
Chad Ochocinco
And the only problem with the Saints, they ain't got no damn offense.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, but see the thing is, is that we got a couple of takeaways. We. We sack your quarterback, force a turnover, get a pick, block a punt, scoop and score.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Level the playing field. Rb, caps, bus, ditto. Although this question is quite simple. Can you recall a game, whether in high school or college or NFL, where you had the most fun playing and why?
Every game.
I mean, it's hard not to have fun playing this game, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, it is. Especially high school. You know, them the good times, man.
Them the good times.
Shannon Sharpe
The difference is NFL is a job. You understand that? Yeah, you have fun, but you still. You still. It's still a job. It is a job. You get paid a kid. You get paid a king's ransom to play a kid's game, obviously. And the further you go along. High school was fun. You know, you get a lot. You know, guys, you that you play, that you grew up with. You know, you've been knowing them since kindergarten.
College, you know, you. You to build. But I always, I always had fun, Ocho, because I really. I really enjoyed doing what I did. Yeah. And I think that's why I was so successful at it, is because I did have fun. I didn't look at it. I didn't. It was a job, but I didn't look at it as that. I did not.
See no 304 up. If you could build an idea with speed, rise, running height using NFL players past the present.
I Won't reek speed.
I want Randy Moss height.
I want Brandon Lloyd's hands.
I take Ocho's route running.
I would take my brother's physicality.
And I wanted to be Megatron's weight.
Jabrizi37, what's your go to sub order and toppings? I don't get no toppings. I get a ketchup medium. I get a burger medium. Ketchup only. I want no cheese. I want the onions. I want no lettuce. I want no tomatoes. Every once in a while. Every once in a while. Maybe like twice a year, I'll get bacon on it. That's it.
Chad Ochocinco
On a cheeseburger.
Shannon Sharpe
A hamburger, I don't get. I don't get cheeseburgers.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I get when you. I mean, you know, you know me. You know me with them burgers and burgers and hot dogs. But that's me. That's me.
Shannon Sharpe
That's why I don't like going, oh, I already know what you want. Burger, meat and bun. Ash come back with the whole kitchen on her burger. She got a. She got an avocado. She got lettuce. She got tomatoes. I'm like, well, damn. Can you taste the meat?
Can you taste the meat? Every. I ain't never seen somebody get every topic. They got like 15 topics, and it's like, man, I think I'm getting the burger with you. The hamburger is $7. By the time Ash get done, order the burger 25, because it's a $50 for every topic that you get. And she got one of them.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, that's funny.
Shannon Sharpe
I like. No. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. Thank you guys for watching. As you watch IU win the Big Ten championship, they take down Ohio State, the defending national champion, by the score of 13 to 10. The Georgia Bulldogs made it look real easy demolishing the Alabama Crimson tied in the SEC Tournament championship. Excuse me. 28 7. And Texas Tech wins its very first Big 12 championship by the score of 34 to 7 over the number 11, BYU. Thank you, guys. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. That is my partner and co host, Cincinnati bingo legend, a Ring of Fame honoree, a former pro Bowler and an all Pro. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you for your support and you continue support those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier and you can't find it any state or city near you. Order it online. Head over to laportierconac.com to order you a bottle or two and it'll get shipped directly to your door. It is a Premium VSOP Cognac, the best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market. Don't take my word for it. Try it for yourself compared against other cognacs and you'll see it is the smoothest, best tasting cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Check out my media company page on all of his platforms that Shay, Shay Media and my clothing company 84 with 84 being spelled in the chat, we want to very thank our very, very special guest joining us tonight, Georgia running back Nate Frazier. He's on the winning side. He led them in rushing and he had a rushing touchdown today as they roll over Alabama 28 to 7. And Romello height who joins us. He's a Georgia boy. 478. I'm from the 912. Want to thank him. They won the first Big 12 championship by the score of 347 over BYU. That concludes nightcap. We'll see you tomorrow after the game.
Chad Ochocinco
Tomorrow night after the Bengals win. Who after the Bengals win?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, that's tomorrow night. That's Sunday night's game.
They ain't put y' all on no Sunday night.
That ain't happening. Thank you guys for joining us. I'm ug, he's Ocho. We'll see you tomorrow night after the game. Thank you guys. Peace.
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Chad Ochocinco
For an ice cold Coca Cola.
Shannon Sharpe
Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there.
Chad Ochocinco
Mmm.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere and an.
Chad Ochocinco
Ice cold Coca Cola.
Shannon Sharpe
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Romello Height
The big thing about working at tech.
Shannon Sharpe
Is that it's ever evolving, ever changing.
Chad Ochocinco
Everyone's a rookie. That's how fast the industry is changing.
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Date: December 7, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe (with Chad Ochocinco Johnson)
Guests: Romello Height (Georgia native, Texas Tech standout; occasional mention of Malcolm Gladwell)
This episode of Nightcap Hour 2 on Club Shay Shay dives into college football’s transfer portal era and the NIL money race, blasts George Pickens for his response to Richard Sherman’s critique, debates superstitions in Philadelphia’s Eagles locker room, and wraps up with a candid discussion about NBA locker room politics—specifically, Chris Paul’s standing with the Clippers. Amidst all this, Shannon is joined by Ocho and guest Romello Height for an energetic, wide-ranging, and irreverent ride.
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Comedic Interlude
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This episode delivers the signature Unc & Ocho blend of real talk, football intelligence, and locker room humor. Romello Height provides a candid look at the transfer portal and NIL challenges, while Shannon and Ocho hammer home the importance of professionalism, especially when big money’s involved. The Pickens/Sherman saga sparks a spirited debate about effort, respect for the game, and inter-generational athlete accountability. Other segments—NIL policy battles, superstitious bunnies in Philly, and the evolution of NBA leadership—round out the episode, finishing with rapid-fire Q&A and comedic riffs on (almost) everything.
If you want straight, hilarious, and insightful hot takes on today’s football and sports headlines, this is a can’t-miss edition of Nightcap.
For a full experience, catch the individual segments using the timestamps above.