Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho FED UP with Stefanski in Shedeur DRAMA + Embiid LOOKS WASHED + LeBron NOT FOCUSED? + Wemby DOMINATES Cooper Flagg in NBA DEBUT

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 2

Episode Date: October 23, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”)
Regulars: Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson (“Ocho”), Iso Joe (Joe Johnson)

Episode Overview

This episode of Nightcap Hour 2 dives into the drama around Stefanski’s handling of Shedeur Sanders, gripes with Tua and Miami’s offense, the health and focus of NBA stars like Joel Embiid and LeBron James, and the explosive NBA rookie debuts, especially Wemby’s domination over Cooper Flagg. The panel mixes sharp analysis with classic comedic banter, rapid-fire “play or fade” picks, Q&A with fans, and plenty of lively debate about the NFL trade market and NBA contenders.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Kevin Stefanski, Shedeur Sanders Drama

• [02:09] Ocho expresses strong disapproval that Coach Stefanski is not giving Shedeur Sanders any first-team reps, unlike Dylan Gabriel earlier behind Joe Flacco.
  • Ocho: “Hell no. You know that ain’t normal protocol. … Shador is not closer to getting the starting job until Dylan Gabriel shows he just can't get the job done.”
• [03:39] Sharpe points out: “You one play away. So now when the guy goes in, he ain't never prepared because he ain't getting no reps.”
• Consensus: Even a rookie QB should get some first-team snaps, no matter who’s starting.

2. Tua Tagovailoa & Miami Dolphins' Offensive Woes

• [07:20] (Tua’s comments on visibility issues at QB)
  • Ocho: “Two is not that tall. Well, hell, neither is Kyler Murray. Well, neither is Baker Mayfield… Russell Wilson. But all of them find a way to get the job done.”
  • Sharpe: “It’s all about anticipation.”
  • Noted: Jalen Waddle had just one catch on four targets.
• [08:20] Ocho calls for a rebuild.
• [10:24] Joe: “You got to cut out the excuses, man, and have some accountability at the end of the day.”
• Discussion: Tua’s excuses (height, line) draw ridicule. He and Gino Smith tie for the league lead with INTs (10 each). Concerns on his long-term viability as Dolphins QB.

3. NFL Trade Rumors: Cowboys and Maxx Crosby

• [16:03] Report of Dallas Cowboys reaching out to Raiders about pass rusher Maxx Crosby.
  • Joe: “We need somebody who reckless abandoned on that defensive end, man.”
  • Ocho: “Y'all need one centerpiece … whether it be a DN, a huge DT … or another superstar corner.”
• Price Debate: Is giving up two 1st-round picks worth it? Ocho and Sharpe debate if Dallas waited too long on other cheaper options.
• On Crosby’s value (18:35): “Maxx Crosby is the Raiders' identity. The face of that organization.”—Ocho

4. NBA Opening Night Reactions

• VJ Edgecombe’s Historic Rookie Debut
  • [21:51] “Edgecombe, 14 points in the first quarter, broke LeBron's rookie record … 34 points, the most in Sixers’ rookie debut, surpassing Allen Iverson.”—Sharpe
  • Tyrese Maxey: 40 pts.
  • Backcourt totaled 74 of 117 points.
• Joel Embiid’s Health & Decline
  • [22:11] "He look like he laboring… He don't look explosive anymore." — Joe
  • “They can only go in your knees so many times… That’s a big man." — Sharpe
• On NBA Rookies’ Mentality
  • [22:55] Joe: “That man say him and his mama lived off a generator. He playing for a different reason.”
• Paul George Integration Quandary
  • Spark debate on whether Edgecombe should stay in starting lineup when PG returns.

Notable Quotes:

• [23:17] “You can’t take this young boy out… He's a hell of a two-way player.” — Joe

• [24:25] “He's doing exactly what they want him to do.” — Sharpe

5. Wembanyama (“Wemby”) Dominates Cooper Flagg in Debut

• [25:28] “Wemby got 31, 10 rebounds, three blocks, a steal and assist. Cooper Flagg, 1-8, two points, minus-22.”—Sharpe
• [26:06] Joe doubts Flagg’s point guard usage: “I don't know about him playing this point guard, guys.”
• [26:47] Rockets’ size and lack of traditional PG also discussed.

6. LeBron James’ Focus and Sciatica Saga

• [28:07] Rumors LeBron looks distracted/impaired on Lakers’ bench.
  • “He battling sciatica. What y'all want from him, man?” — Joe
  • Sharpe: “They're not going to evaluate him for another two weeks… He might miss the first 10–15 games easy.”
  • Team defense a glaring issue.
• [29:53] “Putting ball in basket gets me 30 million, gets me 40 million. And he gonna get a $200 million deal.”—Joe on Austin Reaves’ priorities.

7. Ja Morant & Zion Williamson Back and Balling

• [31:45] Ja Morant: 35 pts in season opener.
  • Joe predicts MVP upside if Ja stays healthy: “He could potentially be in the MVP conversation. Man, he keep it up.”
• [33:08] Zion: “When he playing … that's what he giving you. … We've never questioned his ability—just his availability.” —Sharpe

8. Comparing NBA Greats Old & New

• Giannis vs. Young Amare Stoudemire [41:29]
  • Ocho: “Would it be unfair or would it be fair to compare a young Amari Stoudemire and the Greek Freak?”
  • Joe: “They both ferocious when it comes to attacking the rim… But Giannis is more of a ball handler. Mari was more of a post or a finisher.”
• Tim Duncan Underappreciated: Start, Trade, Cut—Shaq, Duncan, Olajuwon [65:37]
  • “Tim Duncan is underappreciated. Yeah, he is. But you don’t want to get—look. Cause he ain’t have no flashy game…” —Sharpe
  • No one wanted to “cut” any of the three; tough hypotheticals explored.

9. Fun Banter & Memorable Moments

Player Exaggerations & Classic Ocho Jokes

• [64:14]: Ocho claims he ran “9.8” in high school 100m:
  • Sharpe: “That's the 90 yard dash.”
• [22:47] Ocho: “I play like it, too.” (On height and basketball skills).
  • Joe: “I don't know about all that. I seen you play. You need to chill.”

Sciatica vs. Cicada Confusion

• [34:39] Ocho equates LeBron’s sciatica with “cicadas,” the insect:
  • “Cicada is an insect. The 17-year cicadas. No, you mean sciatic. Yeah, what is called—sciatica.”

Technical Analysis Discussion

• [46:00] Candace Parker’s suggestion for more technical breakdowns in NBA coverage prompts debate:
  • Joe: “It would take away from being a fan… unless you're really interested and dedicated.”
  • Sharpe: “I'm a fan, so I had to know… that's how I'm looking at it. And I get what Candace is saying, but … the more fans, man, I don't care about that. My team scored.”

NBA Finals Trophy Returns to Center Court

• [36:33] “I'm glad they bringing it back, though.” — Joe on the trophy decal

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Notable Quotes

• “You one play away. … Now when the guy goes in, he ain't never prepared because he ain't getting no reps.” —Sharpe [04:39]
• “Blow the whole thing up and just start.” —Ocho, on Miami Dolphins [08:29]
• “I love how OKC play, man. They just relentless.” —Joe [38:34]
• “Zion, you can [average double-digit rebounds] too because you are more explosive left-handed Charles Barkley.” —Sharpe [33:46]
• “Nothing like prime Shaq.” —Sharpe [68:13]

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• 02:09 — Shedeur Sanders’ lack of first-team reps & the protocol debate
• 07:20 — Tua’s struggles and Miami’s excuses
• 16:03 — Maxx Crosby trade rumors, Dallas Cowboys' needs
• 21:51 — VJ Edgecombe’s record-breaking rookie debut; Embiid’s health
• 25:28 — Wemby’s debut dominance over Cooper Flagg
• 28:07 — LeBron’s sciatica, Lakers’ woes
• 31:45 — Ja Morant & Zion Williamson season openers
• 36:33 — NBA Finals trophy returns to center court
• 46:00 — Technical analysis in broadcasts (Candace Parker discussion)
• 64:14 — Banter about sports accomplishments, running speed, and Ocho's “legendary” career
• 65:37 — Start/Bench/Cut: Shaq, Duncan, Olajuwon debate

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Fan Q&A and Lighthearted Wrap-Up

• Lakers Playoff Futures: Split on whether LA makes the playoffs or is a first-round exit [53:23].
• Favorite NBA Finals Picks: Knicks, Cavs (East); Thunder (West); unanimous praise for OKC’s chemistry [37:44, 38:34].
• Classic Storytelling: Sharpe’s story about his grandfather and family discipline [73:08].

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Episode Tone & Style

• Playful, competitive banter: Frequent tall tales, teasing, and challenges (“Cut it out, Joe!”).
• Deep sports acumen: Especially in breaking down football and basketball plays, coaching decisions, and player psychology.
• Real talk and candid opinions: Especially regarding player accountability, front office decision-making, and media narratives.

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Final Notes

• No advertisements or non-content segments included.
• For a full experience, listen in to catch the unique personality dynamics that make Nightcap a fan-favorite, especially the chemistry among Unc, Ocho, and Iso Joe. The mix of hard analysis, legendary storytelling, and humor delivers sports talk at its best.

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Transcript

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[B]

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[C]

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[B]

Let's go.

[A]

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[B]

Hell no. You know that ain't normal protocol. You should be doing the same exact thing you were doing with Joe Flacco and Dylan Gabriel. Now Dylan Gabriel's a starter. You should be doing the same thing you were doing with Dylan Gabriel and Joe Flacco with goddamn Shador. It's a bunch of trash and all that is telling me is that Shador is not Closer to getting the starting job until Dylan Gabriel shows that he just can't get the job done. And that's why I say they're probably, maybe, maybe towards the end of the season, maybe last three weeks. Dylan Gabriel, at some point, teams are going to force him. You're gonna have to be beat us with your arm. We're not going to allow to allow QJ to run up and down the field. They're going to play, they're going to stack nine in the box. You're going to have to prove that you can beat us with your arm. That's it.

[A]

Yeah, you're right. I mean, I think. Look everywhere I've been, even when we had veteran quarterbacks or whatever, he get one or two reps. I know obviously, if you normally. I don't know how it was, but we had 10 plays. We ran 10 plays per period. Offense got 10, defense got 10, right offense got 10, defense got 10, okay? Special teams do what they do, whether it was punt, punt return, kick kick return, whatever the case may be. And then guess What, Ocho? Another 10, another 10, another 10, number 10, so forth and so on. But you mean to tell me Shador can't get one rep, two reps with the starters? I mean, out of 10 reps, he can't get one.

[B]

What would that. What would that do? That would be wasting time. Getting one or two reps with the starter is wasting time. And obviously on Stefanski side also, it can give Dylan Gabriel some type of. What's the word I'm looking for some type of security, okay? My job is not in jeopardy. I'm not playing as well as I think it should. I should be playing. So I'm getting all the reps to make sure that those reps actually count in practice. And once I get into the games, I'm familiar with those situations, okay? And that's all. I can see it from that point too, you know, as a coach, wanting him to get all the reps so he can get a little bit more comfortable with the situations. And as based on it ain't. Ain't the preseason I'm on.

[A]

It ain't the preseason I can't see.

[B]

Listen, they playing the goddamn Patriots this goddamn Sunday. And that defense, man, look here. All that, all that. Check down here and check down there and trying to stay with.

[A]

They sitting on everything. They're gonna be sitting on everything. Every. Everything.

[C]

Hey, look, I can't see it. I don't see how he can't get no rip, man. You don't Know what's gonna happen? This is the NFL, bro.

[A]

You one play away. One play. So now when the guy goes in, he ain't never prepared because he ain't getting no reps. You talking about he can't? Like I said, Joe, I agree with you. I'm not saying, Ocho, you split it 5 and 5, but he can't get 1 to 2 reps in a 10 play series.

[B]

Yeah, I, I understand what you mean.

[A]

Even if it ain't nothing but a handoff.

[C]

That's what I'm saying. It don't make no sense to me, man.

[B]

A handoff on.

[A]

Yeah. Even if hitting up with the handoffs. Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure Shador would like to throw the ball, but just a. Let him see the blocking with the first team. Oh, let him see the mesh point with the first team running back. Things like. It's simple. It seems simple. Let him take a snap from the guy that's going to be in the game. Look, and I get it and I understand, like you said, Ocho, that you know, Gabriel needs a lot of reps. But I don't think, I don't think you stun his growth. I don't think you harm him in any way if you give Shadow 1 to 2 reps in a 10 play series. I don't.

[C]

Hey, I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you because like, like, like we saying, man, it's the NFL. You never know when you're gonna need Shador. It's a long season. Hey, look, man, you get him out there and he ain't had no reps with, with, with none of the guys now, it's gonna seem foreign to him. I see you still putting in the work, but man, listen, you gotta get that man a couple reels in practice, man. Come on now.

[A]

Because at the end of the day, everybody look good in practice. I want to know what you. When you get in the game. But if you haven't done it in the game, it's hard to come in off the. Just come in and just go. Yeah, because it's, it's, it's a thousand, it's a thousand times faster in the game than what it is in practice much. And guys be moving in practice. But boy, that thing is warp speed come game time.

[C]

You come in that game, them guys already lathered up. They've been. They didn't already played a quarter or two. Boy, please.

[A]

Oh yeah, they hunting, they hunting. Ocho Joe. Another day, another bizarre statement. From Tua at the presser. Let's take a listen to what Tua had to say today. Ocho. Yeah, I think with that, some of it has to do with being able to see guys with their guys also up front and our guys. And I'm not the tallest guy in the back there either, so being able to see, and then sometimes when that happens, you don't want to just throw it blindly, and you got to progress. So I think that had some merit to reasons as to why that happened for Waddle.

[B]

I, I think, I think he's referring to Jalen Waddle not getting any targets in, in, in the previous game that he just played against the Browns.

[A]

Not one?

[B]

No, I, I don't think so. No, not any. I don't think he even had any catches. But that goes to say, two is not that tall. Well, hell, neither is Kyler Murray. Well, neither is Baker Mayfield. Neither are some other quarterbacks that Fluti.

[A]

I mean, Russ Will, Russell Wilson.

[B]

Russell Wilson. Right. But all of them find a way to get the job done. So we, we can't use. Oh, the offensive line with tall. Oh, the D line. I can't see. It's all about anticipation.

[A]

Understand? Four targets, one catch, Ocho.

[B]

Yep. Come on now.

[A]

Four targets, one catch.

[B]

That's. That's your best weapon outside of Von Hin. That's your best weapon. So you have to be able to get in the ball. Tyreek Hill is gone. Who's the next speedster that can move the chains? Who's your next.

[A]

Darren Waller is out also. He strained a muscle.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, oh, what y' all got going on down there in Miami?

[B]

I, I, I don't, I don't know, Joe. I don't, Joe. I don't know. I don't know, Joe. Honestly, to me, at this point, I say you blow the whole thing up.

[A]

Oh, they say.

[B]

I say blow. Blow the whole thing up and just start.

[A]

I think that lady was in, in, in Georgia when she told that police officer when he arrested. You about to lose your job. You about to lose your job. I don't, like, talk himself out of that job. Ojo.

[B]

Yeah, dude.

[C]

Making some money over there, though.

[A]

That's okay.

[C]

They gonna have to eat that.

[A]

A team that's worth 7 billion to eat 55 million. That's a tax write off.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

Hey.

[A]

Oh, it hurts. Why would you, why would you make an excuse to, like. Oh, yeah. Cause, you know, I'm not the tallest guy back there, and they're not the tallest. What?

[B]

I, I, I, I Don't know.

[A]

I guarantee you, Ocho, when he went in for his interviews, he ain't mentioned his height one time. He didn't mention one time that he has a problem seeing over lineman, seeing down the field. What you think he. What do you think the chances are, Ocho, when he was going in on his interviews, right, that he brought, he mentioned his height?

[B]

No, they got, they got passing lanes for a reason. You anticipate. You anticipate throws for a reason. He, Tua is a very, very, very good, above average rhythm quarterback. His anticipate anticipatory skills are really good. That's how he plays. That's how he runs the offense.

[A]

I just, it just seemed like Ocho, the more he talks, the worse it gets.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I understand as a quarterback, Ocho, you gotta have that presser. Normally it's on Wednesday or Thursday. Yeah, some quarterbacks, some of them have it on Thursday, some of them have it on Wednesday. So he has to talk. He's the starting quarterback, boy. He's not doing himself any favor.

[B]

Shouldn't he have some type of training and what to say?

[A]

He should have had that training already. He went to Alabama. Alabama. Make sure you get all that.

[C]

Hey, look, you got to cut out the excuses, man, and have some accountability at the end of the day. At the end of the day.

[A]

Ah, that's what it comes down to.

[C]

That's it.

[B]

That's tough.

[C]

Just say you got to play better, man.

[A]

You. That's t. That's it.

[C]

Just say you got to play better and stop, you know, dancing around and coming up with all these excuses.

[A]

Just, he just. I mean, like I said, the more he talks, the worse it gets. He threw his teammates under the bus. And the thing was, he threw him under the bus after he had one of his worst games of the year, if you can believe that. Because all of them, ain't none of them been really good. And then he follows, he follows that up with another stinker. Yeah. Yeah. So back to back. Excuse me, back to back week three interception games and that's what we supposed to follow?

[B]

Well, he got, he got 10 on the season so far, huh?

[A]

I think so.

[B]

I'm assuming he would be leading the NFL in interceptions.

[A]

No, I think Gino got that one. Oh, I say, I think, you know, got that on lock.

[C]

I see. I seen, I seen what coach was like. I hope he don't get 10.

[A]

He might.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, Tua and Gino are tied.

[C]

How many?

[A]

Both of them got 10.

[C]

Damn.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

I. I just at some point in time, you know, you just have to, like. You know what? You got to do the. You got to do the presser because you're the starting quarterback. But they're going to be a time mocho. If he keep playing like this, guess what? He won't have to do it. Yours or Zach Wilson will be doing the presser. Right.

[B]

Damn, man.

[A]

Because they can't. Because you can't. I understand he makes a lot of money. Right. But you got 52 other guys in that locker room. Oh. That you have an account for now.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And they see he not playing well, and it's a lot easier when you're not playing well and we don't like you. Cause you already did some slickish. Yeah. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Yeah.

[B]

Hey, there's. There's only one way to overcome this. And I mean for. For Tua's sake and that. That's what you play. Now, they might not look at you the same as a teammate anymore, but if you continue to play bad, it's gonna get even worse.

[A]

I don't see how he play better, Ocho. It's not Ocho. If you look at. If you look at this team, I mean, they needed Tyreek to open things up. Tyreek could take the top off. It gave everybody else an opportunity to work up underneath.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So there was so much space. It's kind of like you on the court with Steph Curry. There gonna be a lot of space because they're gonna be trying to crowd him.

[B]

Right. Right.

[A]

Well, with no Steph on the court, who. Why I need the crowd. I can condense it now. I ain't got to worry about nobody.

[C]

Right?

[B]

Right.

[A]

Same thing with no Tyreek. I'm not nearly as worried about waddle as I once was.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And then who else I got? They don't have a very good offensive line. Tua is not fast. Hell, if I shut down the run, where he going? If I play cover five, o', Cho, if I play two, man, where Tua going? Who's he out running? And like you said, he already said he not the tallest guy.

[B]

And the fact that he's not a dual threat, Joe, and I'm. He has to be that he is better.

[A]

He'll do a threat. He liable to throw a pick or fumble it. So he'll do a three. Oh, I know what you mean. You mean running and passing the football. Okay, I thought you meant Drew.

[B]

Hey, that's messed up.

[C]

Hey, hey, he can get better, man. It's still. It's still early in the season. Oh, that.

[A]

I don't. But how many. How many times have you been sacked? I don't know if his offensive line is that good, and he ain't much better. Oh, it looked like one time, they just let. They let the defense just. Just come in and say, yeah, since you snitching.

[C]

Hey, they act like that in football, huh?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You doing all this talking to the media. Yeah, we gonna let. We gonna let these pass rushes get right on up in there.

[A]

Well, he don't got. He done got benched, so he might have had more. How many times did they sack yours? Once he came in the game because they put them on his head, too.

[C]

But he's still the starter, though, ain't he?

[A]

Yeah. I don't know for how much longer, Joe, but he is.

[B]

Also. They. They put him back in this week.

[A]

They haven't said that. Well, he did say. He said he's the starter, and his expectation is he doesn't throw 10 picks.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I mean, well, hell, he making 50 men a year. He ain't got no choice but to start.

[C]

Hello? Yeah.

[A]

Right. So, I mean, there are a lot of quarterbacks that have been sacked more than Tua that don't turn the ball over like tua. So you can't. You can't turn the ball over and take a bunch of sacks.

[B]

Matter of fact, who. Who we got this? Who we got?

[A]

Because a lot of times, oh, we're saying, okay, he's taking sacks to avoid turnovers, but you turning the ball over still, it's just. I. I think for me, it's just gonna be a situation. He gotta go, Ocho.

[B]

Hey, we. We. Damn. We got. We got the Falcons this week.

[A]

Oh, yeah, y'. All. What you call. About what you call Bijan about to go for, like, 150 in Atlanta.

[C]

In Atlanta?

[B]

Yes, in Atlanta.

[C]

Hey, hey, them, boy. Hey, them boys ain't nothing nice here in Atlanta. Why?

[A]

Oh, they on that turf. They got something.

[B]

And then it looked like we got the Ravens right after that, in a.

[C]

Short week, Thursday night, Lamar be back, won't he?

[B]

Yeah, he was practicing.

[A]

Practicing?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Good luck. Oh, Joe, Joe, Joe. You don't like this. The Cowboys have reached out to the Raiders about the potential trade for Max Crosby or Trey Wingo. Yo, would you like to see your squad make this trade?

[C]

Man, come on. Hey, look. Hey, y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

One thing. Y' all gotta.

[A]

Listen.

[C]

Listen, Uncle Ocho, y' all gotta give us some props now. Cause we've been. We've been Doing our thing. All right, you tighten us up a little more on defense, we can end up. We can get Crosby, man.

[A]

It gonna be a real problem then. Now.

[C]

Well, listen, yeah, we. We need somebody who Reckless abandoned on that defensive end, man, who can help us out get to that quarterback, man. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Them boys with him. The boys with the pressure that he can generate, you know, pairing with Sam Williams, they got a. They gotta. They'll have a nice little squad now.

[C]

The boys looking good, man. Y' all know Jerry took a lot of heat from not signing Parsons. So he makes. He making some moves around now.

[B]

Oh, he making some moves.

[A]

But you do realize to get Crosby, you. Them two first round picks, you got to give them up.

[B]

Yeah, I see that now. Now that don't make sense. You're gonna give every two first round picks, right? To go get Matt Crosby. When you left one of the. You let one of the younger.

[A]

Better pass rushes you two years younger.

[B]

It makes no sense. Joe. You could just took care your first pass.

[C]

The price.

[A]

He was cheaper, though.

[C]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[A]

About 12 he. $12 million a year cheaper.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Hey, hey, we got this high power offense over here, man. We need something back up on this defense end we putting up. Come on, now.

[B]

Y' all need one centerpiece, whether it be a dn, whether it be a huge D tackle. I mean, hell, you could even get somebody really good on the back end.

[A]

You.

[B]

You know, another superstar corner that might be on the market.

[A]

Who?

[B]

Huh?

[A]

Who? Oh, Trayvon. They probably. I don't know. I don't know if he's gonna play this week. Jerry was kind of mum on what with Trayvon and whether or not he's gonna play this week. Yeah, I mean, there was a lot of speculation what transpired, what caused the concussion. I don't know. I don't. I don't feel like speculating.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Everybody see it. I mean, everybody in Dallas or a lot of people in the chat seem to. They must have been. They must have been at the house.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

When the alleged incident supposedly happened. But if I. That I told you last year, oh, if I was the Eagles, I'd have reached out. If I was the. If I was the. The Lions, I would have reached out.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

To. To the Raiders.

[B]

Right. But, you know, listen, the Raiders probably gonna say no.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Max Crosby is the Raiders identity.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Matt Crosby is the face of that organization. I mean, the chances of them actually letting them go is slim to none. Unless the package deal is absolutely worth it for the Foreseeable future as far.

[C]

As picks, two first round picks.

[A]

Oh, they got what, what did they hold up? They gave, they think about what the packers gave up to get Michael Parsons two first round picks and a former Pro bowl player in Kenny Clark.

[B]

Sorry.

[C]

Yeah, I think, I think they'll get up off.

[B]

Yeah, probably. When's the deadline, huh?

[A]

November 4th.

[B]

Oh, that's right around the corner, huh? Damn.

[A]

What? Two weeks.

[C]

Hey, hey. Them Cowboys, them boys and bending, man.

[B]

Hey, they look good, boy, that offense, man. Jesus Christ.

[A]

Yeah, they look good. I, I, you, you can.

[B]

I ain't gonna lie. Got CD came back looking good. Pickens Williams look good.

[A]

Devonte Williams. I think he like second in the league. Second or third in the league in Russian.

[C]

Yeah, he played, he playing.

[A]

They got two, they got two ones at wide out. Dak is dealing better than at any point in time in his career. And he's had some seasons in which you throw the ball, but the way he starts spinning it around.

[C]

Hey, hey, hey. Dakota Prescott ain't playing, man. Hey, look. Yeah, man, he looked like he in great shape, too.

[A]

Yeah, like he lost some weight.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Hey, hey, he got, I mean, you go back and look at it, he got married and got a family. Oh, look, there you go.

[C]

There you go.

[B]

Hey, remember what I told you, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You notice how everyone that's putting the ring on their finger and getting married, showing I have structure, I have discipline, I. All right. This is my foundation. I'm gonna build from here on out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You notice that everybody is flourishing, right?

[A]

Wow. All right, man, I hear what you.

[B]

Listen, we don't, we don't have to wait two years.

[A]

I'm gonna pick up what you're putting down now.

[B]

Oh, okay. Stay with me.

[A]

Yeah, Joe. Hey, he put it down, I'm gonna pick it up.

[B]

We ain't gotta wait two years.

[A]

Number three overall draft pick, VJ Edgecombe, had one hell of a rookie debut tonight against the Celtics. Edgecombe, 14 points in the first quarter broke LeBron's rookie record most points in the first quarter in an NBA debut. And he wasn't done. 34 points are the most points in the Sixers rookie debut, surpassing Allen iverson's record of 30 in 1996 against the buck Eskom 34. Tyrese Maxey fought it. Joel Embiid only played. Only played 20 minutes. He stick, but he had had four points. But those two, that backcourt went crazy. Say it with me, they went crazy. Tyrese maxi was played 41 minutes. He was 13 to 24, 7 of 9 from 3, 7 from the free throw line, 40 points. Edgecombe played 42 minutes. He was 13 of 26, 5 of 13, 3 of 6 from the free throw line for 34. So the backcourt combined for 74 of the 117.

[C]

That ain't it, Ocho. Hey, he look like he laboring, man. I know he won one for nine, but he, he, he, he don't look explosive anymore. You know what I mean, Joe?

[A]

You know, they can only go in your knees so many times, they can only go in your back so many times before. And that's a big man. It is. I mean, Joe, you know that. You know, getting up and down that court, trying to play those minutes when you, he rehabbed, you know, to be in shape, you gotta train. Rehabbing, rehabbing just gets you back to where you were training, takes you to the next level. Yeah, he hasn't been able to train. He's been rehabbing. Just trying to get back to the point. Go ahead, Joe.

[C]

I understand that. And you know what? His body does look good. He does look like he in shape. He just doesn't look explosive. Now, I'm gonna tell y' all something about this VJ kid, this rookie. That man say him and his mama lived off a generator. He playing for a different reason.

[A]

You hear me?

[C]

Yeah, I'm for real, Ocho. Hey, yeah, you look at that boy body. He looked like a sprinter out there. He looked like he run track. That man is in elite shape. He is an elite athlete and he's gonna be perfect for the sixes. That man put up 26 shots tonight, man, as a rookie. Oo playing with MB and Maxi.

[A]

Hold on, I got a question for you, Joe. What's up? Where do Paul George fit in this mix? Oh, them two guards.

[C]

Well, first off, you can't take this young boy out. He, he. I know you can't take him out because in summer league, he showed promise. In the preseason, he showed promise. And now, first game of the season, he's came out. He's competed at a high level, man, played 42 minutes, man. I'm talking about, he, he, he balled out, bro.

[A]

Like you can't play more minutes than anybody.

[C]

Yeah, you can't taper that down. You want him to continue to be aggressive, to continue to assert himself on both ends of the floor because he can dominate both ends of the floor. He's a hell of a two way player.

[A]

I love him. I love him.

[B]

Hold on, Joe. Hold on now. Hold on. He's a two way Player. He was dominant tonight. As good as he looks, all the multiple things that he can do. When Paul George come back, Young Bull gonna have to go to the bench.

[A]

No, he ain't.

[C]

He ain't. Whoever this Barlow dude is up here, he go. Who at the fold, he gonna have to go. He gonna have to go to the bench. And Uber gonna have to move to the four or something. They not taking that boy out that lineup now.

[A]

He's the number three pick.

[C]

Yeah. He ain't coming out that line.

[A]

He can't go into no. He ain't coming off no bench.

[B]

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[C]

Yeah, he come. Hey, hey.

[A]

He doing exactly what they want him to do.

[C]

And that's be aggressive, right? Make plays on both ends of the floor. And, man, look, he. He plays great off of Maxi. Like this young back whore here got some promise, bro.

[A]

And they scored 42 points in the fourth quarter.

[C]

Yeah, they weren't playing. They weren't playing. Them boys. Nasty night. And that was in Boston.

[A]

That was on the road. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Well, they got me hyped for basketball season, boy.

[C]

Oh, man. Put that ball down, man. Listen.

[A]

That thing. Nasty, boy. Nasty.

[C]

Ocho, you gotta chill.

[B]

Hey. Hey, Joe. Hey, lady. Joe. Hey, Joe. Let go to it. Let's go to a hop game, Joe.

[C]

I mean, say less. Which one you want to go to, I bet.

[B]

I don't know. You know, I gotta be. I gotta be in Atlanta.

[A]

Tuesday. Tuesday.

[B]

Yeah. I fly in Monday. I gotta film some. I gotta film something with Cam.

[C]

Let me. Let me see. Let me see who they. Let me see who they.

[B]

Get some.

[A]

Hot dogs and Wimy. Wimby. Wimby doing a number on the. On the. On the. The Mavericks. Wimby got. Wimby got 31, 11 or 17, 31 points, 10 rebounds, three blocks, a steal and assist.

[B]

They play. They playing the Mavs Flag doing.

[C]

Hey, that what I'm gonna say, man.

[A]

Cooper flag, one eight. He had zero points at the half. He won for eight. Two points minus 22.

[C]

Can I tell y' all something? I'm being honest with y'.

[B]

All.

[C]

I. I like Cooper flag game. Yeah. And I know J Kid is going to get the most out of him, but I don't know about him playing this point guard, guys.

[A]

No, no, no.

[C]

I don't know the point.

[B]

Why he not at the fold, man?

[C]

They got 80.

[A]

Anthony Davis is at the 4.

[C]

They got PJ. What the hell?

[A]

At the 5, they got. Well, they got. They got Derek Lively, the second at the five. They got PJ at The three. They got AD at the four. They got Klooper flag at the point, and they got clay at the 2.

[B]

Hey, that, that, that. That's not right at all. That's not right.

[A]

Now they need a point guard.

[C]

Hey, listen, it's third quarter here, minus 23.

[A]

Damn. It's the. It's the same thing with the Rockets. The Rockets need a point guard.

[C]

Yeah, they do.

[A]

Thompson. Look, I, I, I look, I like Amin Thompson, he's phenomenal player, but he's not a point.

[C]

Yeah, they struggled getting that ball up the court yesterday, man.

[B]

Hey, hey. They whole goddamn lineup. Everybody 6 11, 6 7.

[A]

Yeah. Almond Thompson is the shortest. Everybody else, 6 11.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Shingoon K.D. porter. Yeah. Jabari. Excuse me. Jabari Smith and. And Stephen Adams.

[B]

And. Boy, tall as hell, man. Joe. How tall you is, Joe?

[A]

Six eight.

[B]

Golly. Hey, I thought I was tall at six fold. Man, them boys is six four. What?

[C]

Who's six four?

[A]

Me.

[C]

Hey, a lot. Okay? Who telling this boy here?

[A]

They do.

[B]

Hey, Joe. I'm six four, Joe. You ain't never seen me in person.

[C]

Ocho, man, we just got back on here, man. I like hanging out with y', all, man, but you got to stop it, man.

[B]

Joe, you ain't never seen me in person.

[A]

Cut it out, Joe. Tell him to cut it out.

[C]

What's wrong with him? You gotta chill, my boy.

[B]

Now, I'm. I'm six fold, Joe.

[C]

Okay, all right, all right.

[B]

Hey, I feel. I feel like it, though. I play like it, too.

[C]

I don't know about all that. I seen you play. You need to chill.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Hey, that was one game. Hey, Joe, I was out there facilitating like magic.

[A]

No, you're not quite like magic.

[C]

Magic.

[A]

Oh, hey, Joe. Ocho. The vibes surrounding LeBron's situation with the Lakers have not been the best. Perfect. Javon Buha. The vibes with the situation have not been the best. I'll say so again. I don't really want to go too much down that road, but. Yeah, I mean, thought there were times just looking at the huddle or looking at the bench that he wasn't engaged as he typically is when he's out. Ocho. Joe. Joe, let me check with you first. Joe, what going on, man?

[C]

Braun look focused over there, man. You ain't. Hey, look, he got that poker face over there. You don't know what he got going on in that head. You know what I mean? Hey, he can't. He can't do nothing. The man battling sciatica. What y' all want from him, man.

[A]

They wanted to be jumping up and down to talk about, well, if he can do all that, he should be in the game, you know? They gonna say that? Yeah.

[C]

Hey, I don't know if y' all know what that's like, what that sciatica is.

[A]

I know what it's like, man.

[C]

Listen, you get. You won't even be able to run or bend over or do nothing with that sciatica.

[A]

It's not a thing. Absolutely not.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

They say, well, they're not gonna evaluate him for another two weeks.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So they're planning mid November. So two weeks is. Is damn near is what, the beginning of November. So. And then he gonna have to ramp it up, have to play and try to get, you know, get some on. On court conditioning. Damn. So he might miss what you think of Joe the first 10 to 15 games. Easy, easy, easy.

[C]

But you know what? Looking at him over there, he do look like he's still in some shape. Now. I know he working behind the scenes.

[B]

He ain't.

[A]

Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. He'll always be in shape.

[C]

He ain't coming back to be no average. Now. He gonna come back and really, you know, get to it. So they.

[A]

They.

[C]

They definitely could have used him last night.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Hey, they still can't.

[A]

They have. They can't play defense.

[C]

They can't.

[A]

Man, they can't play. They can't play defense. I mean, you got. You got. Look, Luca tribe, but Luca can't play no defense. Austin Reeves really can't play no defense because Austin Reeves realized one thing. Playing defense won't get me paid. Putting basket. Putting ball in basket. Gets me 30 million, gets me 40 million. And he gonna get a $200 million deal.

[C]

Oh, yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be. It should be a little easier for him that Brian ain't out there. You know, I would figure him and Luca, obviously, we know Luca gonna be Luca, but.

[A]

Yeah, Luca had 43, 12 and 9.

[C]

He won.

[A]

But. But look, he a walking bucket. Luca good. You can't stop him. He can do. He got mid. I mean, he can get to where he want to go. He got it. He gonna play at his pace. You cannot speed him up. He got a big body. He can play through contact.

[C]

That's his defense, huh? His own.

[A]

To try to try to wear you down on the other.

[C]

There you go. His offense is going to be his defense. Hey, I don't know what y' all think this is, but. Yeah, his offense is what's gonna make Him a hell of a player. And what's gonna offset his defense for.

[A]

Sure, John Morant tonight. Oh, they won't. 122, 128 over the Pelicans. Ja, 35 points, a steal, three assists, three rebounds. Jaren Jackson had 18. Wells had 14, Jacques L had 10. They got Prosper, came off the bench, gave him 10. Cow Coward gave him 14 for the Pelicans. Herb Jones had 17. Zion gave you 27. Trey Murphy III gave you 13. Jordan Poole gave you 17. I guess that's Sadiq Bay came up the bench, gave you 13. And then fears gave you 17. Hey, you.

[C]

You. When. When you look at this, man, y' all can say what you want, but if Ja Morant can stay healthy. Cause I'm gonna take y' all back to the playoffs. UNC and Ocho, they lost them first two games at OKC. But that third game in Memphis, Memphis was up 30 points before Jock got hurt. And they walked. And OKC walked that lead.

[A]

Walked him down. They did.

[C]

So we don't know how the tables would have turned if that man would have stayed healthy.

[B]

He's healthy.

[C]

He is electric. And I love watching him play. I just want to see him stay healthy because he could potentially be in the MVP conversation. Man, he keep it up. I know it's just first game, but he looked good out there, man, putting pressure on them boys.

[A]

Yeah, well, that's the thing. I mean, look, we know what he is. The thing is because of his body type and because he plays above the rim that damn court hard and he falls off a lot. Now, I know he wear a box. I know he wear a pad suit.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But that's still a damn. I mean, as much. As much as he puts. As much pressure as he puts on the defense.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Getting to the rim, elevating.

[C]

That's what I mean, with that frame he got. Yeah, with that frame, he's gonna be subject to injury.

[A]

Yeah, he. He a thin framed individual.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, you know, him and AI got the same goddamn frame. Not the same skill set. I'm just saying. The same frame. And they always hitting the flow.

[C]

Yeah, he looked good, though, man. Hey, look, we got to get Zion some credit too, because when he. And he healthy, 27 points, nine rebounds, five assists, five steals. When he playing. Now, that's what he giving you.

[A]

We.

[C]

We.

[A]

Look, we ain't nobody ever questioned his ability. We just questioned his availability.

[C]

Right, Right.

[A]

That's the only thing. That's the only thing we've ever. That's the only thing that we could ever question. Yeah. Should. Should he like be a better rebounder? Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I think he should have a double digit rebounds.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

If Charles Barkley is 6, 4 can average double digit rebounds.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Zion, you can too because you are more explosive left handed. Charles Barkley.

[C]

I know he can.

[A]

That's what you are. Now Charles taught himself how to shoot mid range. Shoot the three, Charlie. See, people just look at Charles and all they see him is talking. People don't realize how good he is. How good Charles Barkley was.

[B]

Very.

[A]

Was a doctor don't realize. Charles Barkley was. Hell yeah. He led the league. He led the league in rebounded. At 6 foot 4, the smallest man ever to leave the league. Get rebounded, which is crazy.

[B]

But me and Barkley the same height.

[A]

Oh. Yep.

[B]

Yeah. That's crazy. Hey, you know, I forgot to ask. We done went past it already, right? Hey, Joe and Unc, Y' all ever had cicadas?

[C]

What is that?

[A]

Cicada is an insect. The 17 year cicadas. No, you mean ciata. Yeah. What is called sciatic. It's a sciatic. Sciatica.

[B]

What?

[A]

I called it cicadas.

[B]

Oh, my bad.

[A]

That's an insect.

[C]

I ain't never have it Ocho, but I. I had a. I got a partner who had it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. And he played ball and he had to sit out a lot of time.

[B]

Damn.

[C]

Yeah. It's like a sharp shooting pain from. Pain from like your glute. From your low back to your glute, all the way down to your foot.

[A]

Go down to your side and make your feet numb. Yeah, sometimes I've heard. I've never seen it. I've heard people have it so bad they can't control body function. What?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Damn.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Circadia is an insect.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Make a bunch of noises.

[B]

I'm confused.

[A]

17 year. The 17 year cicadas that come once every 17 years in Cincinnati.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They. They caught. They caught me one year, but I don't know why. I thought it just sounded the same. It sounds similar. So. My bad.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I know what I mean. I've been around him so long, so long. I know exactly what he's talking about. Just like when he said George Flintstone. I know he meant Fred. He just got the two complete feud between George Jensen and Fred Flintstone. I knew exactly what he meant.

[B]

I messed it up. Damn.

[A]

Yeah, I knew exactly what you meant. Yeah, I did. Yeah.

[B]

Hey, what is basketball season Got me hyped, bro.

[A]

Yeah. You know, hey, it's just like when you old people, when your grandparents used to talk.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you knew exactly what they were saying.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Even if I know exactly.

[C]

Hey, basketball.

[A]

Joe Ocho. The NBA will rebuild, will return to painting the Larry o' by Bryan trophy at center court during the Finals, per se. This will be the first Finals with the lead, with the large trophy painted on the court since 2009. Why did they take it up?

[C]

I don't know. I. I enjoy, especially playing, you know, when the playoffs come. You got the playoffs on the court now.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Regular game, in the playoffs. I don't like that, man. Bring the playoffs back. Put the playoffs back on the court.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Finals get here, put the big trophy out there. That's what we want to experience, those iconic moments. I'm glad they bringing it back, though.

[A]

I didn't notice. I didn't notice it was gone.

[C]

Yeah, I did. I did. Because, look, when I was watching the Finals, like we was. It looked like a regular game.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay. Come on. We ain't got no playoffs on the floor. The Finals, and nothing like. I'm used to seeing that.

[A]

So.

[B]

Also. So you. You want the trophy in the. In the middle. In the middle, yes.

[A]

Well, it used to be at center court, right? Yeah.

[B]

Right. Okay. Okay.

[C]

Yeah, man. Dress it up. Give us the bells and whistles, man. Come on, now.

[B]

I like it. Hey, who y'?

[A]

All? Yeah, they should.

[B]

I know. I know it's early. Who your favorite? Joe. And to win the finals this year.

[C]

I ain't gonna lie to you, man.

[A]

I don't know. I don't know who coming out the East. It could be that. I. If. If you make me pick, I would probably say the Knicks or the Cavs.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Because I don't think Boston can get there without Tatum.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And I definitely don't think the. The Pacers can get there without Halliburton. And now turn the left and went to Milwaukee. Who knows? Maybe Milwaukee. Maybe they do have Giannis. They do have Miles Turner.

[C]

I don't know who the.

[A]

Who the guards are, but you, you know, Giannis, Giannis, you know Giannis is going to give you 30, 13 and 6. Damn. Miles Turner should be able to give you 17 and 10.

[B]

I don't know who you got coming out the west, then.

[C]

I ain't gonna lie. I. I got okc, man.

[B]

Again.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm gonna tell you why, Ocho. When you watch them boys play, man, they don't play like Everybody else. They 94ft.

[A]

They.

[C]

As soon as that ball Go in the hoop, they pick you up full court and they weigh you down. Kind of like similar. I know the Rockets probably should have won that game yesterday, but I know.

[A]

The Rocket should have lost the regulation. CU KD called timeout and the referee didn't give it to him.

[C]

You, you right. But I, I love, I love how OKC play, man. They just relentless. OO on. On both ends, bro.

[A]

You know what I love about them? Everybody knows their role, man.

[C]

They.

[A]

And they look like nobody say a nobody challenging Shay to my man. I'm just as good as Shay. I need me shots. But they got. They got six. They got six guys, legit guys that can play defense, right? And they can rotate them. They're never. They're not going to be on the court at any point in time where they don't have at least three wing defenders, right?

[C]

And when you look at it, they look like a team who enjoy being around each other.

[A]

Can't you.

[C]

Can you tell, man, that chemistry and continuity that they have like ocho, I agree.

[A]

1000.

[C]

It don't matter who gets to play of the game. The whole team stand there. Listen to the interview, the post game interview. Like, I think for me, I think that's dope. I love that it just looked like they really enjoy being around one another. And I think with that alone, that's going to take them a long way, bro. That's going to take long way.

[A]

Tonight the Bucks win 133, 120 over the Washington Wizards. Giannis 37 points, 14 rebounds, five assists. Miles Turner had 11 and eight grand. Trent Jr. Had 17, Chris Porter Jr. Had 10.

[C]

Kevin Porter.

[A]

Kevin Porter. Yeah. Kevin Porter had 10, Green had 11, Tayshaun Prince had 11 and Kyle Kuzma had 12.

[B]

Okay, Kuzma, there you go, boy.

[A]

Kuzma came off the bench.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Cool.

[B]

Hey, Tayshawn Prince.

[A]

Taurean Prince Orion Prince. Oh, hey, listen, you look at Tayshawn, your age, bro, he ain't out there.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Now, hey, hey, look at Giannis, man. Yanis just. Oh, my God.

[A]

16 of 26. Hey, 47 from the free throw line.

[B]

And he coming straight downhill. Joe.

[A]

Yep.

[C]

Ocho the Man 6:11, Man 6:11 said, but he ain't no like what he. What he is doing, you know, obviously before Wimby got into the league, right? Never seen nothing like that. And now that Wimby is in the league now, he's doing something that we've never seen. But Giannis, man, he ain't gonna be denied now. He ain't going out without no fight now. Oh, yeah. That man gonna come to play every night.

[B]

Hey, excuse my lack of knowledge, right?

[C]

Go ahead.

[B]

But would it be unfair or would it be fair to compare a young Amari Stoudemire and the Greek freak? Or is that. Am I completely off?

[C]

They got two. They both ferocious when it comes to attacking the rim.

[B]

The rim, Right.

[C]

But Giannis is more of a ball handler. Yes. Mari was more of a post of a finish.

[A]

Mark was looking. He stayed in the pick and roll.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You gotta realize he had two time league MVP Steve Nash, one of the best pick and roll point guards to ever play. Right. So basically they were. They were John Stockton and Carl Malone.

[C]

Yeah. Hey, look, but. But before Nash got there, you know, he had Stephon Marbury and he won rookie of the Year over Yao Ming. Like, Amari was ahead of his time, bro. Like, he was relentless, Ocho. Yeah, like. Like I don't think. I don't think people give him a lot of credit, but the man came out of high school, bro. Just with the attitude, like, it don't matter. I'm going through you, not around you. I'm going through you.

[B]

Right?

[C]

Like, that's my dog, bro.

[A]

Like, he.

[C]

He's one of. He's one of the best that would play the game, especially at that position. He was unguardable, bro. Unguardable is running.

[B]

It's. It's funny. I saw Mari Stoudemire play in high school. He played in Miami, though. They played Miami Northwestern at Miami Northwest. And obviously I didn't know how any. Any idea who he was back then. Yeah, obviously dominated, right?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And so I remember watching his game, the little bit of basketball I watched back then, and then seeing the Greek freak play, and all I can think about is damn Amari Stoudemeiter going downhill. If you in the way I'm dunking over you.

[A]

You better part the Red Sea and.

[B]

And why. And watching the Greek freak you in the way.

[A]

I'm dunking over you.

[C]

Yeah. Hey, Lake Wales, Lake Wells, Florida. That's all he used to have. Lake Wales, Florida. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, that's my guy, man. But yeah. Hey, boy, you see him coming out through the lane? Ocho, you better part the Red Sea, man, you know. Hey, hey. He coming with bad intentions that every time. You already know it. You already. But yeah, him and Greek freak, when it comes to finishing attacking that rim. Yeah, same, bro. Like relentless. I don't care. They don't care who down there.

[B]

Yeah. Remind me of myself, Joe.

[C]

Oh, here we Go. That's how you used to do it.

[B]

Hey, yeah, you know, when I used to. At the junior high school. You know, I should play. I used to play on a 10 foot rim.

[C]

Okay, what happened?

[B]

I mean, I used to look at the Greek freak like a Marty Stoudemire.

[C]

No, you ain't. You ain't look like that, Ocho.

[B]

Not. I'm saying I was a little heavy set. I was a little heavy set back then, back in 87.

[C]

No, no, no, no.

[A]

We ain't.

[C]

We ain't going. We ain't going. I gotta hold you accountable, so you got to stop this for real.

[B]

Hey, hey, Joe. Ask about me, man. I went Alapatti Junior High. Alapala Junior High. Ask him how it was on them course, bro.

[C]

You were getting down.

[B]

Yeah, a little something.

[C]

The man.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, I would love some.

[C]

How many sports you play? How many sports you played in school, Ocho?

[B]

Soccer, baseball, basketball.

[C]

You did this in high school? You did all that in high school?

[B]

Yeah. What. Yeah.

[A]

What do you do, Ocho? I mean, Joe, he said he played.

[C]

Soccer, baseball, basketball and football in high school. I don't know where the man lying.

[A]

But if I had to, Joe, you know, the seasons overlap, huh?

[C]

Football and basketball, they overlap, bro.

[B]

Oh, no, I was like. I was like Dion, like, Dion played for the Braves and the Falcons. That's how it was in high school, man.

[C]

We would have heard about that. You don't think we would have heard about that?

[B]

I mean, God damn, Joe, I went. I went to goddamn high school in the 80s. How you gonna hear about that?

[C]

You ain't with no high school in no damn 80s.

[B]

Yeah, they know I went to the high.

[A]

I graduated high school in the 80s.

[C]

What's wrong with this, man?

[A]

But yeah, I look, like I said, I didn't. I didn't even notice that they had taken the, the, the. The logo, the Larry o' Brien trophy off the center. But yeah, they should. I don't know why they took it away. Maybe if were people slipping on it or something. I. I don't know.

[C]

I mean, you know what I think? I think. What is it like the decal or something? I think it probably is a little slick. Yeah, man, they. With the technology they got now. Come on now.

[B]

Oh, yeah, they can fix that. They can fix that.

[A]

Yeah. Candace Parker says that innovation she'd like to see in NBA coverage would be replicate how analysts cover schemes at a high technical level. I'm a big football fan. I feel like I learned a lot from blitz coverage and drop to in different sequences I never saw until they started showing it in tech, not with technology. I think sometimes as players, we see things, but expect fans to see the game the same way. But to be able to kind of like, hint to fans that what would come in. I think that would be magical. Yes. Because we see the game. That's the thing. We're fans, but we're analysts, so we're analyzing the game. I'm not interested in that a team scored. I want to know how they scored. I want to know how they beat the defense. I want to know what coverage they were in. Ocho.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I need to know, were you in cover four? Were you in cover five? Were you in cover six with a six kick? Was it seven? Was it quarters? That's what I'm interested in. Okay. Ocho, what would you. What y' all in a three by one? Was it. Was it empty set?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Was it cup? Was it 11 personnel? Was it 12 personnel? Was it 21 personnel? Was it. I don't know. Fans say they want that, but they don't. No, I don't think they don't.

[B]

I don't. I don't think so. You would. You would have to really love, like.

[A]

Really, really love the game.

[B]

Yeah. It would take. It would take away from being a fan, right? Yes, that part would take away from actually being a fan. That is too much, and it could be confusing unless you're really interested and dedicated and devoted to knowing what's actually going on outside of the game itself.

[A]

Me, I'm a. I'm a fan, so I had to know. So I know when they talk about. When you hear LeBron say the nail, I was like, okay, so what the hell is the nail? Yeah.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Oh, okay. So that's where it's hard to bring the double from the nail because he's between the free throw line and stop the key inside the key. It's hard to bring the double when you that high out. Okay. The dunker spot. Okay. You run a pin down, you want to flare. Yeah. Oh, okay. I feel pretty good. Hey, I feel like I'm breaking that thing down. Like I'm D.B.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

But that's because I want to know. What. I want to know why I'm. Look, I don't care. Yeah. It's nice to see the three and all that other stuff, but I need to know why. How that got so wide open. Who blew that?

[C]

Because. Because we're more than a casual fan. So when we watch the game.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

My different person.

[A]

We're Analyzing it. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, bro. Trap that. Were you supposed to hedge? Were you supposed to go under? Were you supposed to go over?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. So that's. That's how I'm looking at it. And I get what Candace is saying, but Candace, I. I really don't know. They're probably a few fans, but the more fans, man, I don't care about that. My team scored.

[C]

Damn.

[A]

I don't care how they scored or why they scored. They scored. And all I know is we got the lead.

[C]

Yep, you're right. Everybody ain't gonna want to go that in depth.

[A]

No, but there will be a few. There'll be a few. Yeah. Ocho ISO, it's time to play. Play or fade. Presented by Prize Picks Animation, please, y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

The staff has run two in a row. One. Oh, I won. 75. Oh, no. I didn't win the whole enchilada. I'm gonna win the day, though. I'm gonna win today. I'm winning tomorrow, though. All right. Carson wentz more than 225.5 passing yards. Joe, you think he gonna. They play the card, they play the Chargers, right?

[C]

What he had last week, Carson Wentz.

[A]

Had like 300, but he had, like, two picks.

[C]

And who they playing this week?

[A]

They play the Chargers. Where's this game in. In LA or Minnesota?

[C]

Where is that home game?

[A]

As you look at it, though.

[C]

Damn. You think he gonna. Well, he got some weapons over there, but I don't.

[A]

Oh, yeah, Naylor, they got.

[B]

Hey, you said 275.

[A]

Yeah, 225. He gonna do that? You think so?

[B]

Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

Too many weapons with Jefferson, Addison, Naylor.

[B]

Hawkinson, and Hawkinson definitely.

[A]

Justin Jefferson, more than 0.5 rushing or receiving touchdowns. That means will he have at least one touchdown tomorrow?

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Yeah. Okay, so we go one touchdown. Kamani Vidal less than 55.5 yard rushing. Who the hell he played for? Oh, that rookie got hurt, didn't he? And what you call him got hurt, too.

[C]

Did he play last week? Huh?

[A]

Chargers really got no running game. Both of the tackles beat up. I'm gonna go less. Lad McConkey, this is your guy. Ocho Lad McConkey, 6.5 receiving yards.

[B]

Absolutely, absolutely. Ladarius McConkey might have. Might have. 90. My 90 to 100. Ain't nobody stopping Ladarius McConkey.

[A]

Vikings are good against the rush, though. They held down saquon lad McConkey. Will he have 57 yards, Joe?

[C]

Yeah, I say you will. Ocho vouch for him. I'm say he will.

[B]

Hey, hey, Ladarius. The real deal, right? His name not Lettuce or Darius.

[A]

All right, we going more so we going more than 225.5. We're going more than 0.5 touchdowns. We're going less than 50, 56 yards rushing. And we going more than 57 yards passing. $25 to win 150. Download the app today. Use code Shannon to get $50 in lineups. After you play your first $5 lineup, it's good to be right.

[C]

Let me get on here and check.

[A]

All right, guys, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and a. Kemper, Norwood Jr. Unc. Ocho, my question. How far do you see the Lakers go and play in? Play in or play offs? What you thinking, Joe?

[C]

I think they'll make the playoffs.

[B]

Oo first round exit.

[A]

Damn.

[C]

Yeah, I think they'll make that. They'll for. I think. I ain't gonna say for sure, but I do think they'll make the playoffs.

[A]

Yeah, I think they make the playoffs also. Playoffs. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy. Welcome back. Joe. What did you miss the most? Speeches or Ocho's contagious laugh?

[C]

All of it, man. All of it. Ocho lying.

[B]

What am I about, Joe?

[C]

Hey, listen, just cause I ain't on here with y' all almost every night, don't mean I ain't listening. All right? I'm listening. I'm watching.

[A]

And Ocho, you've been just misspoke the truth. Yeah, I mean, lied is really harsh, Joe. He misspoke the truth.

[B]

Listen. Hey, Joe. Anything I talk about, Joe, honestly, I'm. I'm be truthful with you. Anything I talk about on here, I know it might seem fabricated, it might seem like a lie. But these are life experiences that I've. That I've been through.

[A]

And somebody's life experience is not yours.

[B]

Promise you.

[A]

You right. There are life experiences.

[C]

This boy here, man.

[A]

Joe the Raptor put something on your hogs all right.

[C]

Now.

[A]

Man, they dropped 45 in the third, Joe.

[C]

Hey, I thought we was doing Q and A. About to get up out of here. But listen.

[A]

Yeah. What happened to your hoax?

[C]

You know what? And that was a home game for us too, man.

[A]

It was.

[C]

I don't know. Probably because I wasn't there the game room for him. If you were going to keep it 100, which you might need to be.

[A]

Out there playing for.

[C]

It don't look like we played no defense give up 138 points at home.

[A]

73 in the second half, Joe. Damn.

[C]

I don't know what happened, man. We got to get together.

[A]

We gotta get together.

[B]

Wait, first game. Hey, when I. When we. When we go to a game, I'm gonna heckle them boys.

[C]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, Ocho. But I'm telling you about this Miami Heat in Orlando.

[B]

We won.

[A]

What?

[C]

Please. What Y' all win what the score was, But y' all lost by four. It was 1, 120, which was called 121 to 125. Orlando.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Hey, Vampiro, how you say his last name?

[C]

Van Carol.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, bankero. Nice. Yeah.

[C]

24.

[A]

Wagner.

[C]

Yeah, 24 and 11. Von Wagner had 24.

[A]

Yeah, they good.

[C]

They not playing. Banes had 23. First game over there with the Magic.

[A]

Suggs. Suggs? How many Suggs have he had?

[C]

14, but he was six for seven from the field. He was facilitating, doing what he do. Yeah, see, Orlando gonna be tough.

[B]

I like it.

[A]

Ricky said Wemby putting the league on notice tonight. He's back making Cooper flag look like some barbecue chicken. No, look, we saw Wimby his rookie season. I mean, look, the guy's 12 foot tall. I mean, he could shoot it. I mean, look, he could. I mean, I've seen people have a two on one fast break and pull it out. So now, I ain't messing with you. I ain't messing with Wimby. But they know he gonna throw it up out of there.

[C]

Ocho.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It's six and a half minutes left. This man got 38 and 13.

[B]

Yeah, I'm looking at him. I'm looking at him now.

[C]

He ain't playing.

[A]

Oh, he liked women. Oh, here. For real.

[B]

And he got 37.

[A]

We're not used to. We're not used to seeing somebody that look kd when you see a guy KD height. So just imagine somebody five, six inches taller than kd, they say that can handle the ball, shoot the three, put the ball on the floor, get to the rim, and you ain't getting nothing to hear. Hey, I wouldn't be surprised if he said the NBA record for blocked shots. Yeah, I think either Mark eating a bowl. Manute bowl has the record for the most. I think it's got five blocks a game. Was it Mark Eaton or Manute bowl man?

[C]

They say the man ungroup 2 inches.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. So if Kevin Durant 6, 11, 7 foot, he's 7, 5, 7, 6 and a half.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Normally seven guys that tall. Joe, we look at Manute Bowl, George mirror, son. Bradley, they not handling the ball like that, no.

[B]

Yeah. Hey, hey, he's seven, seven, six, seven, whatever it is.

[A]

Yeah, he's seven, five and a half, seven, six.

[B]

Hey, he twitchy with it, though.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Man. Hey, hey. San Antonio gonna be scared because he got some dogs around him. Them young boys, he got this playing around him.

[A]

They can go the Mark Eaton or Manubo. I think somebody had like five blocks a season. Every five blocks a game.

[C]

San Antonio. Hey, look. Yeah, I'll keep talking. We talking about okc but, boy, look, San Antonio ain't playing. They putting it on, man.

[B]

They up Ojo 1, 110, 82.

[A]

Yeah. Mark Eaton average of four, four and a half blocks a game. I can see Wimby do it. I can see Wimby. The guy that's most likely to get a, to get a quadruple double is Wimby. And he's gonna do it with block shots. That man like Akeem Olajuwon did his. With block shots normally have rebound, assists, steals. I mean, he's gonna do it with block shots.

[C]

Hey, hey, hey. He looked like he ain't come to play no games with these boys today. He had 40 and 15. Uncle Ocho.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

This man.

[A]

Oh, he gonna be. Oh, he don't. Yeah, this man like women tonight. Lord have mercy. Yes, Lord, have mercy. Ts car washing detail is the Clippers a top five team in the west who can win it all? Not the Clippers. Look, look, they lost tonight. I, I look. T Lou is too good of a coach. They'll figure this out. Kawhi. Ooh. Kawhi didn't play well tonight. Three or nine. One of five from the three. He had 10 points. Minus 25. Nobody really played well. Bradley Bill had five. James Harden had 15. James had 15 and 11, two rebounds. Zubots had 19 and six seven. Derrick Jones Jr. Had 12. John Collins had 14. Brook Lopez had 15.

[C]

I wonder, I wonder why Kawhi only took nine shots, though. They ain't they like, I expect him. I expect Kawhi to be at least 18, 20 attempts. Uncle Ocho, I expect him to be aggressive.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you, but if you go back and look at it, nobody really took a whole. I mean, John Collins and Brook Lopez had as many shots as James Harden. Zubas had the Most. He was 9 of 13. But this is. Hold on. Utah scored. Oh, yeah. This game was over. The Utah scored 43 in the first, 35 in the second. So they had 78 and they had. They were up 78 to 47. And damn, now you see why he.

[C]

Only the damn altitude and got to them Clippers. Hey, look, y' all know I played in Utah for two years. I know what it's like. It's almost like it's like playing in Denver.

[A]

Yes, it is.

[C]

It is, man.

[A]

Listen, Nikki Grant says I'm single. Two steps past 40. Well, employed, no kids. I'm enjoying minding my business and enjoying my. And enjoying my mortgage. According to Chad, I'm screwed.

[B]

According to. Well, shoot, man, 40.

[C]

I mean, Nick, it ain't too late. Ain't too late.

[A]

You ain't screwed Nikki, all right?

[B]

Yeah, you ain't screwed Nikki. He. He out there.

[A]

What kind of car we got, Nikki?

[B]

Yeah, he out there.

[A]

I mean, you got a Mercedes because, you know, Mercedes. You put a lot of miles on a Mercedes now. Nah, look, there's somebody out there for everybody.

[B]

Yeah, that's. That's what they say.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you know, you know, women love to say don't settle.

[A]

But see, it's different for, see, Ocho, a guy will make a guy looking to make money so he can provide women. A lot of women are looking to make money so they can become independent. See, they done got a fool. You don't need no man. And the first time, hey, can you do this? No, you don't need no man. Call somebody else to move you or change your tire or change your oil or take you to get something. It all depends. Look, what you. Is that what you want? You want. If you want somebody settle. I don't think settle is the right word. I think the thing is, is that everybody is trying to find the perfect everything. You heard, he makes ocho, he makes 500 to 10 million dollars. He's highly educated. He likes to travel. He doesn't have any kids. Even if they do.

[B]

That. That's. That's a move.

[A]

You.

[B]

You. That's. That's a movie you talking about right there. That's. That's a. That's a fairy tale ending. Everybody, everybody, everybody.

[A]

Did you hear about the fairy tale ending? Isn't that what it in that, the end?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Happily ever after. Yeah.

[B]

In the movies.

[A]

Yes, that was fiction. In the movies, so.

[B]

Hey, Nikki, I got somebody for you. Nikki.

[A]

Nikki, you good?

[B]

You good? I got somebody for you, though.

[A]

Wizard P. Is it time to stop sugarcoating these quarterbacks that are past their prime? If it's time to retire to him. For him to retire. And he's been watched for three to four years. Yeah.

[C]

What are you talking about?

[A]

You got to give him some names.

[B]

Wizard P. Cause all. All the old quarterbacks in NFL, they playing real well.

[A]

Good. Rogers is playing tremendous. Joe Flacco had an outstanding game the other night.

[B]

He gonna have another outstanding win again against these goddamn jets on Sunday.

[A]

Was he? Was he? Who's office? AFC Offensive Player of the week this week. Was it Flacco?

[B]

I think it might have been uno.

[A]

How it could be uno if Joe Flacco was throwing the ball.

[C]

That boy had. But how many catches he had, Ocho?

[A]

It was Chase 16.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Jamar and CBAC.

[B]

Yeah, I told you.

[A]

Well, we know Michael won it. Defensive player of the year for the NFC.

[C]

We had three sacks.

[A]

Yeah. Yep.

[C]

Boy 1 Playing, getting around that edge.

[A]

What?

[B]

He closed the game out.

[A]

Okay, Let Ocho tell it. He could have won the US Open and ran nine six in the hundred.

[B]

I mean, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Now, listen, for those that do follow me, Joe, you see my tennis skills.

[C]

I haven't undersea ma.

[B]

Tennis skills. And listen, it's well documented, especially if anybody in the chat in Miami, they know in the hunted. In high school, as a freshman, I ran nine, eight. I ran nine eight. So I ain't too far off a nine six. And I wasn't even a track runner. I was a.

[A]

That's. And that's the 90 yard dash.

[B]

No, no, no, for real. Yeah. This is before I got hurt.

[A]

First of all, if you ran 98 in the 100 meters, ain't no way in hell you running 4 6. Who?

[B]

No, I ran 4 6. I failed. I like, I fell. Like I fell on my chest and got up and still ran 4 6.

[C]

Come on.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Come on, Joe.

[A]

Come on. Hey, he meant he played pickleball, Joe.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

They say Ocho got it. You know, pickleball. He good at that.

[C]

Oh, so I'll be back on that pickleball court.

[A]

Give me.

[C]

Give me a couple more.

[B]

Don't do that, Joe. Don't do that. Don't do that.

[C]

Hey, listen, hold on. I'm telling you, Ocho, I'm trying to team up with you. Hey.

[B]

Oh, you try.

[C]

Oh, me like that?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, I'm a team.

[B]

Hey, hey, come to the winning side, Joe. Come to the winning side. I like that. I like that.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, I'm ready.

[C]

Yeah, man. We get some people in some doubles or something.

[B]

Yeah, I like it.

[A]

97 sub, fellas. Start trade. Cut. Shaq, Tim Duncan, Elijah1. Oh, I've said it. I' ma stick by it. Tim Duncan is underappreciated. Yeah, he is. But you don't want to get. Look. Cause he ain't have no flashy game. He couldn't fly through the air. He ain't shoot no threes. He didn't have no. He have no funny sound bites. All he did was everybody. You know what that played in his era, Mr.

[B]

Fundamentals.

[C]

I played against him in two playoff series. That boy wasn't nothing nice. Hey, yeah.

[A]

And what, three finals MVPs. He won five, three finals MVPs. A two time MVP. He probably should have won a defensive player of the year award. But he didn't because he was like a 15 time or 13, 14. 15 time all defensive. He's like 13, 14 time all NBA. Yeah. And he's putting up these numbers with Shaq now. Him and Shaq going head to head. That was a matchup. It was. They did.

[C]

They had some great ones, boy.

[A]

Yeah, and let me tell you, also played in the era with Elijah1.

[C]

Yeah, Elijah1 got the best of them in that finals. That was a young Shaq.

[A]

Yeah, Elijah one got the best of a lot of people, man. A whole lot of people could do anything with dream. Hey, look, so quick.

[C]

I had a quick little stint with Houston. This was it had to be 2000, what, 18, 19. This one. James Harden was averaging like. Boy, 35. Yeah, 35, something like that. But we used to play three on three every day, Uncle Ocho. Yeah, and me and Dream used to be on the same team every day, bro. He used to play three on three with us every day, man. Listen, some of the coolest stuff I've ever been a part of, Bryce, to look forward to that dream got dated. Dream still got some nice. Some nice game for you down there. Yeah, you see he over there teaching Wimby and all them boys how to.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, that dream shake. Ooh. And the thing was, he played both ends.

[C]

Yes, sir.

[A]

No, he really, really played both ends.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, he was a hell of a shot blocker.

[A]

So we're gonna. It's a prime Shaq. Prime Duncan. Private Elijah 1. I. I can't cut none of them. Somebody just gotta come. Hey, somebody gotta come off the bench. You'll be a fool to cut any of them.

[C]

Hey, that's unrealistic, man. You can't cut neither. It's tough, bro. Cause, man, listen.

[A]

Ooh. I would probably prime Shack. Ain't nothing like prime Shaq.

[C]

Nothing you can do with him.

[B]

Nothing at all.

[C]

Nothing.

[A]

I'm gonna go prime Shaq you gonna.

[C]

Have to cut Duncan, ain't you? Tell the truth. You keep it 100. If you keep it 100, it's okay.

[A]

Damn. Oh, so I gotta hold on. I'm. You know what? I gotta trade. No. Somebody going to the bench. Somebody gotta go to the bench. I. I had to get rid of them because they gonna come back and haunt me.

[C]

Oh, boy.

[A]

Hey, if you trade Elijah, he gonna come back and give you 40, 15 with 10 blocks. Duncan gonna give you 20, 20 and 8. Shaq gonna give you 40, 15, and go pull the backboard down on your head.

[C]

Pull the screws out that thing. You hear me?

[A]

Chad, what should we do? Chat. I'm gonna start shaq and Duncan. Elijah1 gotta come off the bench. Hey, man, I so miss you, brother. I know this is NBA episode, but them cowboys finn to get whipped. Sunday, Bronco country.

[C]

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. What we got on it, baby?

[A]

Make a lot of yourself, Joe. Make a lot of yourself, Joe.

[C]

Hey, and. And I know we. I know we playing in Denver, but hold on.

[A]

Let me. Let's.

[C]

Let's break something down real quick. I don't want you. You and Ocho to have amnesia on here. Cause uncle, you already. You still down at dinner, me and you, but we gonna handle that.

[A]

For what? Dinner?

[C]

Come on, now. Come on, uncle. Let's play this.

[A]

You know what Joe Joe be talking about. Oo. You owe me like, you owe me, like, seven games and the series 1, 4, 3.

[C]

Hey, O.

[A]

But you is in the hole, though.

[C]

We can laugh about it.

[A]

But you.

[C]

You. I still ain't got to pay, man. Interest.

[A]

Interest.

[C]

Interesting.

[A]

About me.

[C]

I'm talking about you.

[A]

Cause me and you, we better owe you $100.

[C]

But I'm saying it's interest in that. Ocho, you better owe me. The season started back, man.

[A]

That was the final.

[C]

Hey, Ash and Jordan, we gotta pull that up and let Unk know why he in the hole. It's okay, man. It's okay. Hey, I ain't holding it against. I'm just reminding y'.

[A]

All.

[C]

Cause, you know, if I don't remind y', all, then you.

[A]

You know, you.

[C]

You know, you let somebody hold on for something too long, they gonna really think it's there.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[B]

At a hundred dollars.

[C]

Yeah, man. Gotta add a little interest to it. The season has started back like we done started back, man.

[A]

We don't had two seasons. I ain't got my money yet. JW from Accurate, fellas. Great show as usual. Welcome back. ISO. We got you back at 26. Appreciate that, man. Appreciate that. Thank Tim's business, Uncle. No. Joe. ISO. Great to have you back. Today your boy celebrates his 37th birthday. The wife took me to the. Took me to have a spa day. I had my. Had my shave out laportier. That thing smooth. Appreciate that. Your boy was hell when he was well, if you know what I mean. I know exactly what you mean. Hello. Happy birthday, man. Glad you and the wife got to spend some time together. Nothing like a spa day, you know. Go out, get something to eat and then come home and shake the covers for Dog. Hello. That's a birthday. That's a birthday right there, Ocho.

[B]

Oh, yeah, absolutely, man.

[A]

You know the old poor hustler and do nothing. Ocho. Hey, somebody need to come through with a fade away jumper58 though. Hey, I need somebody to pull up a fade away Joe. 57 was.

[C]

Hanging up big TD the one.

[A]

Hey, Ocho, I got that 85 jersey on tonight at work. They've been giving me hell, hell all night because I'm a Cowboys. I'm a Cowboys fan, but so would be 84 jersey on the way. Too much love, fella. Appreciate that, man.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Cowboy fan. That got an 85 jersey on. That's janky, man.

[C]

What you trying to do to us?

[B]

Hey, hey. Not. Not really. Honestly. Honestly, you know what? I'm one of the few jerseys regards to what team you support. I'm universal. Wearing my jersey is universal for any fan base because everybody love me. Every fan base love me.

[C]

Nah.

[A]

Saucer said ar and Rui been consistently inconsistent for the last three seasons now. Nah, nah. AR been ar been that guy.

[C]

He, he had.

[A]

When you least expect it, Roy will come up and have like when I expected. I never get what I'm really expecting to get from Rui now ruin, pop up and have a game. But now ar been ar has gotten better and better and better and better. I can't agree with you that one. Ar been money.

[C]

Just one game.

[A]

Just.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

L pray. Can you tell the story about when your grandfather stood up against his brother that caused your uncle not to show up for his my grandfather's funeral. For his. My funeral. My uncle was thumping me on the head. And my grandfather would always tell us he didn't like nobody being thumped on the head. So you make him thick headed and he won't be able to learn you, man. You know how the old people got saying. And so he thumped me and we were sitting on the porch and my grandfather, the bedroom was right there and I thought him and no he thought me. And I said, ow. Stop thumping me and my grandfather. My grandfather groomed me, and he heard it. So I can hear my grandfather putting his coveralls on. That's what they call overalls. Coveralls.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And he came. He said, if you thump that boy one more time on his head, I'm gonna kill you. My uncle got in his car and never saw him again. Even my grandfather died. He came to the church, but he didn't come inside.

[B]

W.

[A]

My grandfather worry if he told you something. Ocho set your clock by if he told you something.

[B]

He meant that.

[A]

He meant exactly that. He meant exactly that. He didn't play all that Kiki kid and all that joking. He did. He didn't. He didn't play that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's. I. I guess that's kind of how I am, but, you know, I kind of like a little bit more.

[C]

But too much of that plan get. Hey.

[A]

He was. He was a firm. He was a firm believer that grown men shouldn't play. He was a firm believer that all that. Keep that joking and Kiki Chi and saying stuff like that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I told you. Man made a joke. My grandfather had his teeth on the dash. We going fishing. Got some gas, man. Say, Mr. Barney, you better catch your teeth before they run away. Pull the transmission that car park so quick. Whoa. Hey, I don't joke. I don't play. I'm old enough to be your Daddy. I'm sorry, Mr. Barney. He didn't learn his lesson. Come back about a month later, we going fishing. Yeah, Mr. Marty, don't catch them all, you know, G.D. well, I can't catch all them damn fish. Manipulator play like that. You know what? I wish somebody. You know what? Because y'. All. Y' all be think I'd be like, but I want y' all to catch my brother. Y' all. Ask my brother. Say, man, I heard your brother on nightcap say his. Your uncle stumped him on his head. Your granddaddy brother thumped him on his head. What happened? Ask him about when the man said, hey, grab your teeth before they run away. Ask him about, hey, don't catch all them fish.

[C]

Ask him, hey.

[A]

Hey.

[C]

He kept them teeth in there in that glass. In that glass jar.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, that polygraph a little water now. Yeah. Oh, you know about that? Well, Joe, you had grandparents to have. Because if you know about that water them teeth in the glass, now you're going to make it because, you know, water make things look big like, damn, papa got some Big old teeth.

[B]

You.

[C]

Hey, I already know what you talking about.

[A]

The days, man. Hey, bought the 40 day play bad. But hey. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank each and every one of you for joining us. Welcome back, Joe. Guys, we really, really appreciate that support. Appreciate y'. All. Man, we're gonna have some great. I look like we're gonna have some great games this year because the season getting off to a great start. Phoenix has come back, take a 107, 104 lead with three minutes to go in the ball game. But look like we have a great season, Joe. Man, it's going to be great. We got our rhythm, we got our cadence. Come on now. We got a. A year on our belt with Joe. Man, this thing about to be lit.

[C]

Hey, let's get it, Ocho. What's that you doing?

[B]

Hey, that's the Kobe.

[C]

So hold up.

[A]

So are you putting your back or you putting your butt on him? Because Jordan put his back on him.

[B]

And he trying to hand check me. I'm leaning back on him.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Hey, and then get your hand off me. Hey, Joe. I've been working on my game, Joe.

[C]

Okay. All right. You getting ready for the next.

[A]

For next Big three?

[B]

Yeah, I'm getting ready.

[A]

I'm just practicing. Hey, Joe, you didn't see him in the All Star Game? Single.

[C]

I seen the boy and I seen.

[A]

Him in a quadruple. Single.

[C]

I seen him in the flag football joint.

[A]

You saw that too, huh?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

See, my thing, Ocho, it's when you sit on here with us and you be like, oh, man, y' all gonna watch me tomorrow. I'm have 30 points. I'm gonna have 300 yards tomorrow with 15.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

And then you get out there. You get out there.

[B]

I get out there and do what I'm supposed to do. If the ball don't come, ain't nothing I could do, Joe, I can do.

[C]

You start copying these, please. And we ain't trying to hear. That's all I'm saying.

[B]

What you want me to.

[C]

You want.

[B]

You want me to curse the quarterback out?

[A]

If that's what you gotta do to.

[C]

Get the ball, then that's what you need to do. Yeah, that's what you gotta do.

[B]

That's what you need to do. Hey, Joe, them people ain't gonna invite me back.

[A]

No, folks, Joe, they might not have. They might not invite you back after that performance you put up.

[B]

Oh, no, I look good now.

[A]

I just want you to go one Time and bring nightcap, some hardware back. That's it. We send you off and you come back empty handed.

[C]

Hey, right hand, baby, I promise you I'm gonna bring you something back.

[A]

I got something for Joe was gonna bring us MVP back.

[C]

Come on, man, what you talking about? Come on now.

[A]

Hey, Joe. Hey, hey, Joe.

[C]

We got.

[A]

We won some awards, Joe. So we got your award coming. What? Yeah, we want this. What? We won two of these, boy.

[C]

That one.

[A]

The night cap.

[C]

Okay, okay. Hey, look, don't threaten me with no good time now.

[A]

N N. Anytime.

[B]

Hey, hey, hey. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hey, hey, hey. I got. I need. I'm. I got some floating shells, right? I'm putting some floating shells right behind me.

[A]

Yeah, I'm gonna put some.

[B]

Some pictures, man.

[A]

Do you see how crooked them plaques are? Whoever hung them had vertigo.

[B]

No, it's not crooked. It's the. It's the camera. No, no, not the wall.

[A]

Whoever. Whoever put them up, they had vertigo or they cross eyes, talk like Ricky smiles, they cock like a pistol.

[C]

Because he did that. That's why it looked like that.

[A]

Yeah, that look, that look in rig.

[C]

Man ain't getting on him, man. Hey, come on, Ocho, man.

[B]

Now listen, listen, listen, listen. Stay with me, right? Stay with me real quick. It looked like that because of the camera.

[A]

What camera you see in the camera, you saying you don't look crooked? Huh? You don't look crooked.

[B]

I know it's the depth perception is off, boy.

[C]

Hey, boy, I know you. I know that boy was something else in school. Cause boy, you gotta come back for everything. You hear me?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

I'm just telling you the camera's off because the wall is flat. So it ain't no way it could be crooked.

[A]

Don't tell nobody, but he stayed in the same classroom the whole day.

[B]

Hey, I had a 4.0 though.

[A]

Yeah. Hey, you ain't doing no but finger paint and take that. He got stars for grades. I'm your favorite shadow shop. That is my partner and co host, Liberty City's own bingo's ring of fame artery, the former pro bowler. All probably. He's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. And the big three is back. The third member of our Wednesday night crew, University of Arkansas alum, Little Rock, Arkansas native. There he is, ladies and gentlemen, Ice O. Joe.

[C]

Yes, sir.

[A]

Thank you, man. Appreciate you. Joe. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed. Wherever you get your podcast from Ocho and I and Joe would like to thank you for your support and your continued support because you guys make it worthwhile even when it's sometimes like damn, we back at it again. But we know that we got the love and support of so many subscribers fans everywhere. Thank you guys for your eyes, ears and your word of mouth because without you none of this is possible and you make it all worthwhile. So again, thank you for your support and your continued support. Make sure you check out Shay by La Portier. If you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. It's the best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market. Try it, compare it to other premium vsOps and let me know what you think. We love competition. We built for competition. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Go follow my media company page on all of his platforms. Shay, Shay Media and my clothing company 84 with 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat. We want to thank our very, very special guests, Quinshon Judkins for joining us tonight. The rookie, sensational running back from the Cleveland Browns had three rushing touchdowns last week. That was the first time a running back from Cleveland had done that since September 18th of 2022. So congratulations. Hopefully he stays healthy and continues to progress and we know he's headed for an outstanding season. So thank you Q for joining us tonight. Joe, thank you. Keep going with that recovery.

[C]

Come on now.

[A]

Look forward to seeing you next week. Ocho. I'll see you tomorrow night after Minnesota and the Chargers game. Chat. Thank you so much for your support. We're out.