Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Ben Johnson saying they need to practice better + Dabo Sweeney defends his program

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho React to Ben Johnson and Dabo Swinney

Host: Shannon Sharpe
Co-host: Chad Johnson (Ochocinco)
Date: September 18, 2025
Podcast: Club Shay Shay (iHeartPodcasts / Shay Shay Media)

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Episode Overview

This energetic episode of "Nightcap" dives into highlights from the world of track & field, vivid NFL talk, pressing college football controversies, and the essential art of winning habits. Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ocho" Johnson react to recent standout achievements (notably Sydney McLaughlin’s jaw-dropping American record), break down athlete mindsets, report on NFL QB news, and scrutinize coaching techniques and program culture, all through the lens of two ultra-competitive pro athletes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Sydney McLaughlin’s Historic 400m Record

[02:54 – 13:43]

• Sydney’s Semifinal Surprise:
  Shannon opens with excitement over Sydney McLaughlin breaking the 400m American record (48.29s), a record standing for 19 years.
  "She took .41 seconds off the American record. Sid said she was shocked at the performance, saying she wasn't expecting that. That's a blistering time." – Shannon Sharpe (03:26)

• Track Legends Recalled:
  Shannon gives a masterclass in women’s 400m history, recalling iconic runners like Marita Koch, Perec, Nasser, and Kathy Freeman, putting Sydney’s feat in global perspective.

• Breaking Down ‘Sub-48’:
  "Let somebody go up under 48 before we start talking about 47.60 because I don't think people understand just how fast that is… She’s going to probably have to go out in 22 seconds and come home in 25.5." – Shannon Sharpe (05:52)

• Doping in the Era:
  Both hosts lightly reference past doping scandals, highlighting the purity of Sydney’s achievement.

• Statistical Clarification:
  Shannon disputes reports on where Sydney’s time ranks historically, explaining the nuances in list-keeping (multiple sub-48s by same athlete).

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Family Chatter & Coaching Lineage

[10:49 – 12:55]

• Chad’s pride shows as he brings up his own daughter’s track success and current collegiate progress.
• Shannon notes the impact of coaching mentorships, referencing coaches who've developed today’s stars.

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Track & Field World Championships Recap

[16:37 – 22:05]

• Shannon quickly recaps big Championship performances:
  • Grant Holloway’s streak ends, Cordell Tench wins 110mH Gold.
  • Mondo Duplantis sets a new pole vault world record (6.30m).
  • Shot Put: Ryan Crouser overcomes injury to win gold.
  • National pride is in full effect, especially in jab exchanges with Chad about Jamaican sprinters.

"When you say burst on the scene now… I’m not going to take anything away from him. But when it comes to sprinting… it's incredible what the Jamaicans have been able to do for a country that size." – Shannon Sharpe (22:06)

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USA vs Jamaica Track Banter

[22:05 – 28:11]

• Good-natured but fiery back-and-forth rooting for Team USA and Jamaican sprinters; Chad ribbing Shannon on historic and current medal dominance.
• Praise for legends Usain Bolt and Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce, calling them GOATs in their fields.

"Usain is the greatest… Woman sprinter is Shelly Ann Fraser-Pryce. I'm not arguing that. It’s unbelievable." – Shannon Sharpe (24:19)

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NFL Quarterback Updates – Rodgers and Cousins

[31:06 – 36:59]

• Rodgers’ Recovery & Future:
  Reports that Aaron Rodgers looks more mobile with the Steelers than during the end of his Jets tenure. Discussion highlights age, injury history, and the realities of cold-weather football as an aging player.

"As you age… that's a significant injury. That used to be a death sentence. A career ender, put it like that." – Shannon Sharpe (32:22)

• Kirk Cousins in Limbo:
  Ocho jokes about the Falcons moving Cousins for Cincinnati’s benefit. Shannon breaks down why it’s impractical, focusing on contract issues and team fit.

"You want to move into my house and you want… how much of the mortgage you gonna pay? Nothing. Because I don’t live there no more." – Shannon Sharpe (35:52)

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Ben Johnson’s Practice Critique / Championship Habits

[37:08 – 42:01]

• Lions DC Ben Johnson criticizes the Bears for poor practice habits and a lack of discipline, blaming their 0-2 start on unpolished fundamentals.
• Shannon gives a powerful anecdote from his Broncos days under Mike Shanahan on the necessity of practicing with intensity and intention, describing how even "walkthroughs" were serious.

"Sometimes. We do things the right way all the time. Now, whoever I see in them Timberland boots and shower shoes and Uggs, you won’t be on this team no more." – Shannon Sharpe (41:26)

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Dabo Swinney Defends Clemson Program

[42:04 – 45:37]

• Dabo pushes back at critics, listing his titles and successes.
• Chad calls out the ‘resume defense’—arguing you have to prove yourself every year, regardless of past success.

"Every single season, as a coach, every single season as a player, you got to update your resume." – Chad Johnson (43:25)

• Shannon acknowledges Dabo’s winning record, recognizes current setbacks, but says Swinney is still among the elite.

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Audience Q&A and Personal Banter

[45:43 – End]

• The second half features loose, humorous takes on show business (Ocho’s recommendation to see the Rat Pack show), party etiquette (Super Bowl snacks, hot dogs), and inside jokes about bets and debts between Shannon and Chad.
• Fun anecdotes about minimalist home living and old school house rules are shared, drawing laughs from the pair.

"I don’t have Super Bowl parties. Cause guess what? Who you for? You ain't for my team; you can't come over. You ain't finna be jumping, cheering in my house. Just… cheer in your own damn house." – Shannon Sharpe (50:36)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Sydney McLaughlin’s greatness:
  "She’s in phenomenal shape… If she can break this world record, it might be like Bolt. You might have to go three generations before you see somebody break it again."
  – Shannon Sharpe (08:40)

• On practice culture:
  "We don’t do things the right way sometimes. We do things the right way all the time."
  – Mike Shanahan, relayed by Shannon Sharpe (41:26)

• On coaching resumes:
  "It’s great for stories… but it has no effect on the program and you being 1 and 2."
  – Chad Johnson, on Dabo Swinney (43:25)

• Super Bowl snacking:
  "I don’t need no condiments. Have some damn hot dogs. I don't need no condiments."
  – Chad Johnson (52:34)

• Bets & Debts:
  The running joke about Ocho owing Shannon $5,900 and a jersey is a recurring source of laughter throughout the segment [56:17, 57:06, 58:04].

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Sydney McLaughlin 400m Record & Track History: 02:54 – 13:43
• Chad’s Daughter, Coaching Networks: 10:49 – 12:55
• Track World Championships Recap: 16:37 – 22:05
• USA vs Jamaica Sprinting Rivalry: 22:05 – 28:11
• NFL Updates (Rodgers & Cousins): 31:06 – 36:59
• Ben Johnson/Bears Practice Culture: 37:08 – 42:01
• Shanahan's Practice Expectations: 38:16, 41:26
• Dabo Swinney/Clemson Debate: 42:04 – 45:37
• Q&A, Party Snacks, Ocho’s House Rules: 45:43 – End

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

Shannon and Ocho blend reverence for athletic greatness (especially in track & field) with a comedic, no-nonsense approach to sports culture and accountability. Their anecdotes from the NFL offer rare insight into championship habits, while their banter reveals the enduring passion and pride of elite athletes. The episode rewards listeners with both laughs and a deeper appreciation for the little things behind sports success.

Transcript

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More at applecard.com after nearly two decades, 19 years, Sonia Richards Ross held the American record in the 400 meter at a time of 4870 on the exact same day 19 years ago. 19 years later, Sydney McLaughlin took took it down in the semifinals of the world track and field championship. McLaughlin clock 48:29. I think that's off. Ashes, the seventh fastest time in history, not the 11th, but it is the fastest time by an American. She took 0.41 seconds off the American record. Sid said she was shocked at the performance, saying she wasn't expecting that. That's a blistering time. And she backed it down at the end. Yeah, maybe I'm the only one alive that remember when Matarina Coke set the world record of 4760. There have only been two women that's ever cracked sub 48. Krachalova, who's a 800 meter runner. Ocho, she ran 48,90. She ran 4799. And then Coke ended up running 47.60. And if I'm not mistaken, I think she ran it from lane two. Now, now Nasser has been down there. I think she's 4811. I think Paulino, who's actually in this race, I think she's run like 4817. Mo Marie Jose Perrette, the French lady, she's back to back Olympic champ. She also won the 200 in Atlanta. She won the four and the two. I'm trying to think who else has been a low time. They had this Russian, Brazena, she ran on the, the the 88 team. I think she was the one that held Flojo off. If I'm not mistaken. Ocho, my memory serves me correct. They've been a few. Kathy Freeman, There have been some great 400 meter runners. Valerie Briscoe, Hook, Kathy Freeman, Pere Nasser, Paulino, Coke krachalova. But Sydney McLaughlin and she said something very interesting. She said, look, let somebody go up under 48 before we start talking about 4760 because I don't think, I don't think understand what people understand just how fast that is for a woman that's booking. Yeah, you literally. She's gonna, they're gonna, you're gonna probably have to go out in 22 seconds and hold and come home and 25, 25, 5. Let that sink in because normally they're going out in 23 and try to come home in 25. She's gonna have to go out in 22 and come home in 25 and a half. She's got the people in the race that could push her. Nasser takes the pace out. Paulino like the track. She like. She. Like she played with fire there now. Almost didn't make it, but we'll see what her L s. Sydney's fitness is impeccable. I. It's. I believe it's going to take low 48. 48, 0. Or they might have to dip under 48 in order for it to win this gold medal.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. When. When. When is that race?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I think it's today already over there. Well, today. Well, it'll be to. It'll be today for tomorrow for us, because I think they're day ahead of us.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So it'll be Thursday. So it'll be Friday for them. So then. Yeah, I mean, said man. And she told Lewis she wasn't expecting that because, you know, normally, Ocho you. I'm doing just enough when to qualify, get the third lane, and then now in the finals, I can drop the hammer. But to run 48, 29 and take 4, 1, 4 one off the. Off the American record. She was cruising on Joe. She was cruising. She was cruising. And see, this is why Femke Bo, the Dutch runner, can't beat in the hurdles. She ain't got the foot speed. She got the foot speed, right. I mean, what you gonna do? What. What were you gonna do with someone that can run a fort. Can run 48 seconds? I mean, it's gonna be very impressive if she abandoned the hurdles and sets her sights in 28 in the Open 4 and she get the world record in the. In the four and the hurdles.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Lord, because I didn't think. I didn't think in my lifetime I would see somebody get this cold record. This 40 record's 40 years old. I thought that. Oh, so. I mean, nobody's come close. There's only been two women in the history that's ever run sub 48. So what, man? And nobody's come close. Like NASA ran 4811, but she got popped, right? So like Perrette when she ran. When she ran the French runner when she. She the double 400. That ain't been a whole lot of women double up. I think Shawnee Miller Weebo. I think she doubled up also.

[Chad Johnson]

But.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oo. That's booking. That is booking.

[Chad Johnson]

Very. And. And I. I think people really don't understand how fast it is. And in reference to you saying booking, unless you watch track, unless you know track and understand or you ran track.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And realize how hard it is to run. It's how hard it is to run a 50 second lap. Unless that's a. To run 49. To run 48 for a woman.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then we talk about 47. If see it get. If s break this world record. That record might be like both. You might have to go three, four, five, about three generations before you see.

[Chad Johnson]

Somebody break that record or somebody see. Break it again.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because I think that's what's going to happen with both. Because we haven't seen. We haven't seen anybody come close. The closest anybody's ever come was Tyson Gay and Johan Blake at 9:68. He was at 9:58.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey. But both were moving in that room.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I still believe Ocho, had he not celebrated Beijing.

[Chad Johnson]

Right. I'm hitting the chest.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's. He's low. He's low.950. He might even go. Not sub 950. Oh, that. He broke the guys. He's light years in front of everybody. I just. I just. I just wish he. I just wish. But he was so happy to understand the moment. I just wish he had ran through the tape. I just wish he'd ran through the tape because that time. That time would have never been broken. Nobody's ever. You're gonna have to be on a motorcycle or have a hurricane behind you. That's the one or two things. You own a motorcycle or you got a hurricane behind you. Yeah, that's it. But Sid, she. She's in. She's in phenomenal shape. And. And I think it's going to take a special time. I think it's going to be 48.0or sub. I don't think. I think the world record's safe. Me personally, I think the world record is safe. But I do think 48. Oh. Or maybe a tick under 48 is doable. I think it's doable. And then I think. I think over the next. You know, could she possibly double. They're gonna have to set the schedule like they did for Michael Johnson. Valerie Briscoe Hooks was. I forgot about Valerie Briscoe Hooks. I forgot. She was a great. She was the first person to pull the double, the four two. And she did it in 84. So we've had Chandra Cheeseboro. We've had some great runners in the. In the 400.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, hold on. We. We got a great 400 runner right now in the family.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, your daughter yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Rare. Yeah. I hope, I hope you watching. You see what's it doing? She had, you know. Oh, your daughter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I didn't know.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, she up there? Yeah. She had been in Kentucky. Yeah. Yeah. She better be watching.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, I. I think the head coach when Sid went with Eric Floral. I think he's at University of Texas now. I think so. I think if I'm not mistaken, I think he's at the. I think he's at UT now. But see, it's booking Ash. It's the. It's the seventh fastest. Not the 11th fastest. Correct. It's the 11th fastest. Nah, I' ma disagree because 4760. 4799. 48, 14, 48, 17, 48, 25. Marie Jose Paret. 4827. Olga Brazen and Sydney McLaughlin number seven at 4829. So I don't know where they get this from. The 11th fastest time is by Kathy Freeman. 4863 at the Olympics in Atlanta. So we're gonna disagree. We're gonna disagree with USA Today at USA Track & Field.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I would, I would disagree. The 11th fat. Hold up. They say it's the 11th fastest time in history. How? Pull it up, pull it up, pull it up. Ash right quick. Google it. Because something ain't adding up. I hope they ain't threw men in there. Oh, oh, oh. Okay. So what they're doing if she ran more than one time under the time on the sis time. They're counting that. Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I was just. Wow. Yeah. But look, I, I'mma leave that alone because we know where the, the, the, the the system that the East Germans and the old Soviet had in place. But let's leave that alone. Hey, she ran the time. It got ratified. Hey, we'll leave that alone. Oh, okay. Okay. The 11th fastest time, the seventh fastest person because Coke ran two. She ran 48:16 twice. And she ran 48:22. So she got four of the top four of the top fast. Seven seven times in. In the country gold medal in the 110 meter. Hurt.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

No purchase necessary. VGW Group Void we're prohibited by law 21 plus terms and conditions apply Grant Holloway's trying to for Pete. Oo has come to an end. Cordell Tench. Who did I say? MJ who did I tell? I got Cordell Tench ran 12.99. Orlando Bennett, Jamaica 1308. Tyler Mason, Jamaica 1312. Rashad, the Japanese Runner ran 1318. Jacobe Tharp ran 1331. So it stays in the house. I mean, it ain't the same person, but it's in the usa.

[Chad Johnson]

Hold on. What? Flamingo. What? What place he came in.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Make it to the finals. It's been a rough year. I don't know if he's injured. I don't know what he's dealing with. But he didn't even make the finals. Yeah, he was a three time world champ three consecutive times and he didn't make the finals.

[Chad Johnson]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep. And the 1500 meters. Isaac Nader, Portugal, 334. 10. Jake Reitman, Great Britain, 334. 12. Reynolds Chariot, Kenya, 334. 25. Timothy Cherriot, Kenya, 300. 334. 50. Neil Larios, The Netherlands, 334. 52. Robert Farkin, Germany 335. Josh Kerr was dealing Inger Britson. I don't know what happened to him, but he didn't make it. Cole Hawker got disqualified for jostling. And. And Josh Kerr, the reigning world champ, he dealt with a foot. He was dealing with a calf injury or something. He finished 14th and he didn't make it to the finals.

[Chad Johnson]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Men's long jump. The girl. The goal went to Feri of Italy. 839 meters beat Carl Lewis at the record as the youngest long jump world champ in history. To Taj Gail, Jamaica, 834. Shi Yoa, China, 833. So. Damn. And the pole ball. Mondo D Dupontis a new world record. Ocho, 6 meters 30. He breaks the world. He breaks the world record for the 14th time.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, that's, that's crazy because you know. You know, I used to pole bowl national. Yeah. Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Manolo Careless.

[Chad Johnson]

What was the record again?

[Shannon Sharpe]

630 meters. That's over 20ft.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did about 17ft, boy. My junior year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The former world record holder Renee Lavalani was in last place. He was in 8th place at 5 meters 75. He's the former world record holder. And Sam kendricks of the U. S.595 finished just, just, just off the podium.

[Chad Johnson]

Dang. Probably remember them days, bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was scared of over. And the shot put. Ryan Krauser in his first Meet. He's been dealing with an elbow injury this entire season. But he came in and when he needed to be great, he was 22 meters, 34 for gold. Munoz, Mexico. 2197. Silver. Leonardo February, Italy, 2194. Tom Walsh of the Netherlands. Excuse me, New Zealand. Excuse me. He was 2194. But we. But it's unbelievable. Was able to do. I mean, just think about Ocho. The first time he threw the shot in competition was at the world championship.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he uncorks 120, 22 meters and 34 on his fifth throw. The greatest shot putter in the history. He won three consecutive world championships. He's won three consecutive gold medals. Obviously he's getting good gear up. Probably. I don't know how much you do. They only got the usas next year and then they got the World Championships in 27. And then you got the. The. The Olympics in 28. He's relocating. His wife's a doctor. He's moving to Nashville. I think she got a job at Vanderbilt. I think they're relocating from Texas or Oregon. Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, they didn't. They didn't force you when you was in high school to run track?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ran track.

[Chad Johnson]

So you ain't do. You ain't do the field event?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I was a triple jumper, long jump through the discus.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay. I. I did. I did shot putting. I did po bowl. I ran four by one. Four by four, 100, 200. I ran the 1500.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I won the. I'm a three time state champ in the triple jump. I won the best performance trophy, the farthest jump in the state meet my senior year. I won the high point trophy, the most points accumulated in the state track meet. In the state track meet. My. And my classification my junior year. Yeah, I ran track. Coach. I was pretty good. Got recruited by a lot of schools.

[Chad Johnson]

I still got my technique.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah. Your legs too close together, huh?

[Chad Johnson]

No, my furniture white. I can't kick my furniture, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But congratulations to all the winners. Ryan Crouser, gold medal.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

In Cordell Tench. Unbelievable. We keep. We keep the goal. Here we go. Keep that gold medal here. Hey, don't think I didn't see what y' all said, Jamaica, but we about to get that gold medal. We about to get gold and silver in the 200.

[Chad Johnson]

Let them know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Talk to him. Y' all be talking. Y' all make it seem like the olympics just inserted 100 meters in 2008. When you say burst on the T on the scene now. I'm not going to Take anything away from him. He's the greatest sprinter to ever live facts. Not going to take anything from him. But when it comes to sprinting and, and, and it's an incredible what the Jamaicans have been able to do. When you look at oo a country that size, you're talking about.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, what, 4 million people.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. If that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. And to have the greatest. I mean, and, and, and some of the women, I mean, you look at Shelly Ann Frazier, I mean, they've always. Merlin Ottie, she never won gold, but, you know, she was always silver, bronze on the Olympics and in the World Championships. So they've had, They've had good, good sprinters. Vcb Veronica Campbell Brown, Sharon Stewart. They've. They've had great women sprinters. So don't get me wrong, I don't want to say anything, but y' all know. Y' all know what that video. Right? Y' all know what time it is. Okay? So if you go back and look at the World Championships, I'll say the last 15, 20 years.

[Chad Johnson]

I mean, we right there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know y' all think the Jamaicans, you know, been running things, but go back and look at it. Go back and look it up. I know y' all only go back to 2008 because Usain and I get all that. But, you know, the Olympics, the Modern Olympics is 130 years old. They first instituted the Olympics. The modern olympics. And in 1896, I'm just, you know, I just say it. If you look at it. If you look at it.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gold medal in the Olympics. Gold medal in the World Championships. I feel very comfortable.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do y' all have. I feel y' all have the greatest male and female woman sprint of all time. Yes. Usain is the greatest. Is the greatest male. He's the greatest sprinter. Woman sprinter is Shelly Appraiser Price.

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm not arguing that. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not arguing that. Shelly Ann is. It's unbelievable. I mean, five world championships, two Olympic goals, a 200 meter championship, two four by one championships. What star is. He's the greatest usain. I don't even have to say anything. I don't need to say, hey, you just say usain Boat the greatest sprinter ever. Shelly Ann is the greatest woman sprinter ever. But, you know, we gonna see what we. We gonna see. We gonna try to make it. We're gonna make it two for two. Sweepstakes.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, M.J. got this.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And y' all already know Noah got something for y' All. Oblique, go see Noah in the 200. Crochet, go see him in the 200. Y' all want some? Y' all won't smoke.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. All my fellow Jamaicans. You know I love you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, I love you. Every last one of you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I get them Jamaican oxtails at least once a month. Yeah. What?

[Chad Johnson]

Go on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but y' all be. They'll be talking reckless, man. Look, first of all, it is an upset because Noah was the reigning Olympic and world champ. What do you mean it wasn't an upset? It is if you beat the champ. I'm not saying the Oblique hadn't been running well. Noah hadn't been. Noah hadn't had a whole lot. He was dealing with some injuries. That's what he said. He didn't run a whole lot. Didn't run a whole lot. 100 meters. Didn't run all. And he's. He, he's taught himself. He's a 200 meter specialist like Usain that taught himself how to be a good 100 meter runner. Ocho. But I gave Seville and, and Thompson the credit. They go into Golden. 70 dead. They beat him.

[Chad Johnson]

But I'm worried. I'm. I'm worried. I'm worried about this 200. Why? Look, I'm wait. I'm waiting on this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He seems to be fit, so it should. Look, we know about. We know about Noah. We know about the narrator. We know about Tobogo. I don't know if anybody else can really challenge those three. Noah seems to be route as he's run. And he had to run rounds. He's kind of run himself. It's conditioning where it needs to be because there's nothing like racing. You can goddamn practice all you want to, but you gotta race, right? You got to get your body conditioned to run those four rounds. And I, I like, I like no chances. We'll see. I love him now.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't like him. I love.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I love his team.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And if he, if he doesn't win, it's going to be an upset. It is. I know to Bogo, but I mean, you talk about a guy that's won what, three world championships and everybody that's in this race, he has the fastest time. He's run. 1931. He has the fastest time this year in 1963. Big narrator is close behind him in 1967. And then Tobogo is at what, 70? 1976. We know Toboga is run. I think he ran 1941, 1943 at the Olympics. So we know Tobogo can run. We know he has 200 meter capabilities. He got DQ'd out of the 100 meters. But it's gonna be interesting to see God don't know it. Who want to bet something on it? Put something on it. Oh what y' all got? What y' all got Jamaicans? What y' all want to put on this? But y' all want to put a big lot of yourself.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

VGW group void where prohibited by law 21 plus terms and conditions apply. I'm taking Noah. We getting gold and silver. We gonna pay y' all ass back. Y' all took gold himself in the hunter. We finna take golden silver in the 200. That's what we about to do. O joke that we about to do. What we got next? What we got next? Ocho1 NFL Scoutfield Aaron Rodgers look more comfortable with the Steelers than he did during his camp final campaign with the Jets. AFC Scout told ESPN Jeremy Fowler that Rogers Week 5 game with the jets last season in London marked six to eight weeks of absolute zero mobility due to injury. He was compromised and it showed. But just being a year removed from an Achilles tear, he seems a little bit more secure and a little less hesitant compared to a year ago. After Week 2 loss, Reg Roger said he believed he's moving a little bit better than in the season opener. Look, first of all, he's about to be 41 and he's coming off an Achilles injury. I mean I it wasn't like he was Michael Vic or or Lamar Jackson to begin with, but as you age and you got that, that's a significant injury. OO that used to be a death sentence. You got that injury.

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A career ender put it like that. So but for him to still be able to like he can buy time. Oo he was never, yeah, he was athletic enough to get out of harm's way and be able to move. He doesn't move with the ease that he once did, but he still, he can make, he can move well enough to make plays. And yes, the year, it's the year after the surgery, but it's the year after that. Ocho so last year was that first year, but that next year after you get a little bit of that Adrian Peterson sport us because we saw a guy get his tears me up in December and then come back to the following September it is like ain't nothing mad. They lied 2097 won the MVP office player. Yes so he got people spoiled that have a significant injury and come back and it wasn't the year after. It was the very year after. It wasn't a year after the year. It was that next season and he did that so different. But I think the thing is is that with Rogers if you go back and look at him Ocho the game that he played really well Jacksonville and Miami late in the season is warm weather. We'll see when the temperature starts to get cold and it will in Pittsburgh and the temperature will get cold in where Ocho Cincinnati and it will get cold in Baltimore. And you know as we get the old there's a reason why people move to as people start to age they move to Arizona, they move to Florida. They not try to be in no damn cold weather cities Ocho cuz them like my grandma say you old boons ain't what they used to be.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah I mean even though even though he's not where he used to be unk he's coming from the coldest weather city where he played football and being in Pittsburgh it gets cold. But we talk about no. 30, 40. That's cold. You were planning below zero?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

No zero at times. So I think he's gonna fare he's going to be okay. Especially a year and a year removed from that surgery. He's gonna be all right. Especially with the scout is saying about him looking a little more calm, a little bit more comfortable in the pocket, especially when he's having to to extend plays. He gonna be all right. You gonna be all right? All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

OO say he's gonna be all right. OO Atlanta Falcons backup Kirk Cousins isn't unanimously viewed as an impactor contributor under center within the league. According to NF NFL Insider, James Palmer there there were some people around the league that I talked to think Kirk Cousins is essentially done n he's still collecting the check. He still got somebody Dana receive a report that the Falcons don't have any immediate plans to trade Cousins and despite several injuries to starting quarterbacks on opposing teams, I think if somebody reached don't hate.

[Chad Johnson]

Don't hate Atlanta. Don't hate because what you can't what you could do. Listen, I'm not Mike Brown. I'm not Katie Blackburn, I'm not Troy Blackburn. I'm not Duke Tobin. But I know if all else fails, we can go ahead and get Kirk cousin over there to Cincinnati.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Too much money. Y' all ain't f. To pay that. You know he got. You know he got, like, 40 million on that contract, Ocho, this year.

[Chad Johnson]

I know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then he got another 50. 30.

[Chad Johnson]

Stay with me now. How much of that is Atlanta willing to pay, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm not. Hold on, Ocho. So let me get this straight. You want to move into my house and you want. Well, hey, how much. How. How much of the mortgage you gonna pay? Nothing. Because I don't live there no more.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay? I'm. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just throwing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm throwing it back at you.

[Chad Johnson]

But you know what? I'm just. Listen, I'm just talking. I know what he can do at the quarterback position when it comes to throwing that goddamn ball. And you got two phenomenal. The best duo in the NFL over there in Cincinnati. But we good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We goto. Yeah, I do believe. Because guess what? Ooh. You know, your offensive line is not the best. And what can. And what can he do? Move.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, he can't. So he can't. That wasn't necessary, though. You ain't had to bring that up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You want to get there and be like Joe Burrow. So you have two quarterbacks.

[Chad Johnson]

You didn't need to bring up anything about our offensive line. You didn't have.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Do y' all know his office line ain't good? They say they know your offensive line ain't good, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

It's better than the Broncos.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, it ain't. It's not.

[Chad Johnson]

Did y' all win last week?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, we did not win, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, but you shouldn't be. You shouldn't even be talking about football. You shouldn't be talking about football.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, you got me. You got me. Ben Johnson says Bears don't have championship caliber practice habits yet. The Bears are 0 and 2 and on the NFL, worst point differential minus 34, which pretty much speaks for itself. For Johnson, the problem stem from the part of a bad preparation because his squad practice bad habits aren't yet reflect of. Are yet to reflect a championship caliber team. We should be going to football finishing hard. We talk about this all the time with offensive players that our fundamentals, our finish, our technique, then they show up and walk through.

[Chad Johnson]

That's you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me finish this, Ocho. They need to show up on the practice field. That's how you show up on game day. Simple things. How we properly block. How we catch the ball, how we block after the catch ball, security, things like that. It's the little things that you learn in youth league football that even at this level, they make a huge difference. When Mike first got there, 1995, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Put up there, say, this is what I expect. You catch a pass, I don't care how far the past is, you finish 40 yards. Okay. He said, we do walk throughs. It's really not a walk through, it's a jog through. This is how we do. We don't walk on the field, we don't walk off the field. We jog on, we jog off. They thought Mike. They thought Mike was bull jiving.

[Chad Johnson]

Right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right after he started cutting a few people, he got everybody undivided attention.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then, you know, we winning. Everybody starting to feel good. Oo we go to walk through. Guys out there in Tim's guys out there, guys out there, GMS guys out there. Hey. Cause Mike would be like, we, like. We'd be practicing, right. Wild Mocho Mike would be down there like 20, 30 yards.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And he had his arms folded, and he normally. He either have his arms this. He normally have his hands in his pockets. Anybody you played for the Broncos, or you, you're a reporter, you've been around him, you know, he's standing down there, he got his hands in his pocket that day, his arms just like this here.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm like, man, who was that? Who was acting them? Damn, Tim. That's what I wanted.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He didn't say nothing because normally, you know, he happens. He have. He had a call sheet and you're, hey, cool. He was like, cool. Which means he want to see the first play again.

[Chad Johnson]

Cool, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He want to see play number six again and say nothing. So we run through it, you know, we. We run through it to our offense, defense come offense again, defense might call it up just like, you know, because normally he. When he called everybody get up, you know, we. We run up there. Oh, ain't no dragging around. We run up there like. Like. Like to feed us the last supper or something. We run up there, try to get a good old. Good old meal. But anyway, he paused, he don't say anything. Then all of a sudden he said, I don't know what the hell y' all think this is. He said, this is real. This is what you do. This is what you get paid for. Everybody's here because I want you to be here. And when we come out here, we don't do things the right way. Sometimes. We do things the right way all the time. Now, whomever I see in them Timberland boots and shower shoes and Uggs, you won't be on this team no more. But I. But, Ocho, you know, how. You know. I say, man. Man, come on, bro, just put on your. Remember you used to have turf shoes, Ocho, because you have a little knock.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. I said, guys, if y' all not gonna work cleats, just put those on so you could. Right, Ocho, how you a DB and gotta got on Tim's? Come on. Come on, Ocho. You a linebacker. You got on Tim's. You a wide receiver. You got on Tims. Really?

[Chad Johnson]

It's walk through, though. Walk through.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It ain't no walk through. Told you it ain't no walk through. Ain't no walking.

[Chad Johnson]

A little light jaw, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

John throwing the ball 30 yards down the field. How the hell you gonna do a walk through? And you walking. Then he throwing the ball 30 yards.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, that's funny, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I bet you. I bet you ain't nobody else showed up with that bull jive. Man, them guys are coming at it, Ocho. They got on. They got on the jeans. They got on. Then they try to get slick. They have on. They have on sweats over their jeans. When I try to tell him, man shot back. Okay, okay, okay. So you're right. You're right. I' ma leave it alone. You right. You exactly right. Dabo Sweeney defended his program, which started one and two during the heated news conference, saying, hey, listen, if Clemson's tired of winning, they can send me on my way, but I'm gonna go somewhere else and coach. I ain't got to go to the beach. Hell, I'm 55. I got a long way to go. Y' all gonna have to deal with me for a while. All we've done is win. We won. We won the league eight out of the last 10 years. Is that not good? I'm just asking, is that not good to win your league 8 out of 10 years, go to the playoffs 7 out of 10 years being four national championships. Win two, win it twice. Yeah, we're going a little down right now, taking shots. I've got a long memory. We'll be all right. We'll bounce back.

[Chad Johnson]

Every. Every single season.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, he.

[Chad Johnson]

Every single season as a coach, every single season as a player, you got to update your resume. Every year, you got to update your resume. So, brother. Brother, Dabo talking about what they did in the past as if it holds any weight today. It's great. It's great for stories. It's great for conversation. Barbershop topic, topics. It has no effect on the program. And you being 1 and 2, I.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Guarantee you to take his ass in Alabama right now. You know, he played wide receiver at Alabama.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is that boy, you know, Northern south, they had a way of pronouncing, pronunciating. Thing is, that boy, and they thought he was. They thought they were saying Dabo, right? Hence, dabble.

[Chad Johnson]

Ah, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, we gotta wait. We gotta wait with words, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, we do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Look, it happens. I mean, no, winning the league eight out of ten years is great. Being in four national championships and winning two is great. Could have won three, could have lost. I mean, the one you lost, Alabama, the first year, you could have won that one. The one you won. Lost. The one you won. You could have lost that one. You weren't beating lsu. They beat the brakes off, y'.

[Chad Johnson]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They beat the absolute breaks out of you. But nah, he. Now Dabble's a good coach. You ain't. You ain't. There ain't very many coaches coaching right now better than Dabo. There ain't very many head coaches coaching right now. Got a resume that's as impressive as he is. I, I right. I know Ryan Day has been winning. Kirby smart. But you ain't going much further than that that you taking over dabo, right? I'm just saying. Not, not his resume, not the amount of guys that he's put in the NFL, not the many times that he's, like, he said he's won the title and, you know, he's been in the College football playoffs seven out of 10 years. No, no, no, no. That bowl doing okay? Like I said, fired.

[Chad Johnson]

I bet you Alabama hiring, it'd be hiding 24 hours.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, Ocho, now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

[Chad Johnson]

Listen, I'm ready for tomorrow. Huh? I forgot. I forgot to tell you too. I forgot. I forgot to tell you. I see, I know you. I know you don't like this kind of stuff. Like, you know, I love blues. I love classical. I. I'm an enthusiast for all the old school arts, man from the 50s and the 60s and the 70s. If you ever have a chance, just. Just do me a small favor. You know, take, please, please go see the Rat Pack show at the Tuscany Hotel and Casino. I know, I know you're probably not in the Sinatra like I am in the Rat Pack. And Dean Martin no, but I'll check it out. I'm telling you. Just. You got to see it one time. You got to see it one time. The guy who plays Sammy David Jr. He told me to tell you hello. He told me to tell you he loves watching the show, but it was unbelievable.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yo, you told me you supposed to be going to the Grizz Cafe. What happened?

[Chad Johnson]

I was. I went there every morning. I went there every morning while I was there. Matter of fact, hold on. Listen to me. Miss. Her name is Ms. Trina is waiting on you. I told her. I say. I say Matrina. And I told him to come to Grizz Cafe. Over and over and over. Trust me, he gonna get here. I don't know what time he wake up, but he gonna come in. Yeah, they waiting on you. You ain't got to pay for nothing. But the food there is phenomenal. You hear me, man? Please. What, man?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, I'm. I'm just absolutely. Dang. Ocho ain't. Ain't call me. So I guess.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, listen, you're not on. Gotta be up at seven o'clock in the morning. You ain't gonna get up that early.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I get up most of the time. I'm up at 6:30 walking Titus. I gotta walk in before it gets hot.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, okay, my bad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And plus, I grew up. Do I realize I grew up in. I grew up having to get up early.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, well, you know, you know my routine. Especially when I'm in Miami. I'm up at 5 o', clock, I'm at the gym at 6, boom, 7 o', clock. I'm eating breakfast wherever I'm eating it at. I mean, you know, but you. You got to hit Grits Cafe. I need you to hit that. I need you to try Soul Food Cafe, which is right on Rainbow Boulevard. Nice. Soul food.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Fish and grits and me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then I know where it is.

[Chad Johnson]

Just, hey, one. One night, just please go see the Rat Pack show at the Tuscany Hotel and Casino.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That.

[Chad Johnson]

That's all I ask of you. Matter of fact, that's your homework. Matter of fact, I ain't paying you till you go see it. How about that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He ain't gonna pay me. He gonna put demands on which he paid me back my money.

[Chad Johnson]

No, listen, because I. I want you to be able to experience what I was able to experience last night. Un. Unbelievable. I mean, see you. You're not really into that. That kind of music like I am, but until you experience it and like, oh, this is what it was like back then. In the 60s with Sammy Davis and Dean Martin and the chemistry. The fan engagement. Oh, it was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I want. I paid, like, $5,900. I could experience it. I could really experience it.

[Chad Johnson]

No, I'mma. I'm. I'mma call up there. I'm g. Pay for the tickets.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no. I need the 5,900 in my pocket.

[Chad Johnson]

I got you. Hey, what's your Apple pay? I get you. I send it to you right now. You see?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You see, man, you know, I got Apple payback.

[Chad Johnson]

You don't want it. PayPal, they got all these apps. If you really want.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can you send that much money on Apple pay and stuff? Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

The limit is 7, 500.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't know. Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, there it is. See? See?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Shelly got it. Shelly got Venmo and I think Apple. Nah, she got Venmo and Zelle.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, I can sell it to her. Tell them. Just send me the number.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right. Kemper, Norwood Jr. Said, My question is, what are your top four Super bowl party snack? I think you got to have, like, chips. Got to be number one. Ocho. You got to have chips.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, of course, of course, of course.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Doritos, Doritos. Any chip related. Fritos, Doritos, Potato chips. What? Those. One of that queso. You got to have some queso.

[Chad Johnson]

Ocho, what the hell is queso?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like cheese. The cheese with. With ground beef in it, y'.

[Chad Johnson]

All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't have.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't know about no queso. I ain't never had no queso.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What else? Wings.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, wings. Wings. That's a good. I ain't been to a Super bowl party in so long. Hell, when it's a Super Bowl, I'm at the damn Super Bowl.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't. I don't have super bowl parties. Cause guess what? Who you for? You ain't for my team. You can't come over. You ain't finna be jumping. I'm cheering in my house. Just take cheering your own damn house. Well, hey, who you for, man? I'm for such and such. Okay? Come on over. Ain't nobody cheer. You not gonna be in my ear. Your team winning? Cause I' ma put you out, right?

[Chad Johnson]

See, I. I don't. I don't like super bowl parties for the simple fact that all the drinking and the noise and the party, I like to actually watch the game. I like to see everything unfold when it's nice and quiet. I like to hear the announcers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like this, man. And they get mad. Man. Shop. You turn it on.

[Chad Johnson]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't hear at the bar. When you go to the bar, you can't hear them games. It's so much noise going on, you don't hear nothing. Now you want to come over here and pretend like, huh?

[Chad Johnson]

You listen to the super bowl with no sound.

[Shannon Sharpe]

God damn, Ocho. I haven't heard. I have. The only thing I listen to with the sound. The only thing I listen to with the sound is track and field. I don't listen to basketball games. I don't listen to football games, Ocho. I find myself, man, watching tv. It's like closed caption. Good for me. It doesn't happen so much, Ocho. I. I mean, I don't. I wouldn't even know. I. The only thing I listen to with the sound is track and field because I get so excited to hear them call the game. To call the Via Autobot and Sonia. Richard Ross, man. They. Tom Hammers used to be my favorite. The new guy they got now, I love him too. Tom Hammer was amazing. But that's the only thing. And I don't watch. I don't listen to any. I don't listen to any sporting event with sound. So I'm trying to think. So it's wings. So wings. Wings. Got to be one hot. Don't you. I know you got hot dogs at your super bowl party.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, you know, hey, listen, I like my hot dogs now. If. If you have anything and you want me to show up, have some damn hot dogs. I don't need no condiments.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I say chips. I'm trying to think. The last time I had an event, I mean, it was, man, I might have been. It's probably been about 15 years. Yeah. Chips, wings. I don't know. I just. I don't know. Pizza, I just. I just get a bunch. I just say, hey, Shelly, get a bunch of stuff that you think people would like, right? They don't like it. It's going in the trash. So nothing. Hey, you eating on paper, so don't be asking me where. Hey, man, where the plates at? Right there.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't nobody watching.

[Chad Johnson]

See? See, we the same. I live like that. 365. Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. I don't eat out nothing. I don't eat out nothing.

[Chad Johnson]

Kids come. Kids come here. I need a cup. Well, go to the red. Hey, them Dixie. Them Dixie. Plastic. Plastic plates. They right there. We don't have. We don't have no silverware. I got all plastic. Everything plastic. Forks, spoons and knives, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, when I moved to La, I had two forks, two spoons and a knife.

[Chad Johnson]

That's all you need. That's all you need.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And when I moved, When I moved to Vegas, they left everything. When they say ocho the house as is. Oh, to the only thing they took when they closed out the closet. They left towels, they left linen, they left wine, they left, they left beer. They left U tips. They took nothing. They left cases of water. When I say they didn't take anything, they didn't take anything. If I didn't know, they might be in witness protection. They somebody hiding from somebody cuz they were gone. Say, Uncle Noo, what career would you rather have winning two rings as a practice squad player or making a Hall of Fame and having no rings? Making a hall of Fame, no damn practice squad, man. Come on.

[Chad Johnson]

You not kind of question.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, you gotta. You gotta say, okay, be a good player and win two rings or make the hall of Fame a practice squad. Oh, you only get to play in the games.

[Chad Johnson]

You just got that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell no. Aaron Jones with that Vegas reference, you're proving that the players know two. So why is it a big deal? Tom isn't in. Tom isn't in any other private practices. You're missing the point. He's talking to coaches. You think any of the coaches that potentially might play the Raiders? We got a difference of opinion. It's okay, Aaron. Ephraim. Roger says, nice jacket, Ocho. Look like it's worth 5,900. Salute, gentlemen. Keep going. Y' all see that chat?

[Chad Johnson]

Chad. Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now this man on Broadway, this man really played in my face, y'. All.

[Chad Johnson]

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. The Louis Vuitton stuff. You seeing, you seeing, you seeing me wear as of recent, and because I'm trying to get a brand deal with Louis Vuitton, they say this ain't. This ain't nothing like that. See, my. My girl, my baby bought me this. She bought me the little set. You got a little pants, too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know, I know. It's a track outfit.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, you know, see that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We'll have your baby to pay me my money. I take up. I take. I take 5,900 from her.

[Chad Johnson]

Hold on. It's. It's. I got to pay child support. It's end of the month.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay? Nah, you play child support at the beginning of the month.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, not. Listen, those I have kids from.

[Colin Coward]

We.

[Chad Johnson]

We negotiated not pay on the back end of the demo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, but how you. How your baby break me off my money? 59.

[Chad Johnson]

She watching. I'm gonna ask her. Baby. Send UNC that5900.J Dub Akron.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know Ocho ain't on here trying to make bets. You still owe me a jersey from last year. Steelers win. Break bread, Ocho. Or break the jersey.

[Chad Johnson]

Hold on. Time out, time out, time out. Listen, I love my Steelers fans. I love y'. All. And you know, you know I've always shown respect and grace. I don't remember making that bet. I, I, I saw. I surely don't. Did we shake on it? Like we shake on that? That really ain't no bet, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Joe, we usually go right here just owing everybody.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't owe nobody nothing. Only, only, only people I owe right now is me is the IRS. That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You owe me 5,900.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, you might have to talk to Uncle Sam first.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna have to garnish your wages on you. I'm sorry. I'm about to mess your credit up. How about that's what I gotta do. I got to. God guarded your wages, Chad. Should I guard this on your wages? I mean, the man ain't gonna pay me my money, Chad. He ain't gonna pay. He just won't do right. I told, I promise.

[Chad Johnson]

I told you. Listen, go see the Rat Pack show in Vegas. I'mma pay you as soon as you tell me how it was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can I go see another show?

[Chad Johnson]

No, you got to see that one. I'm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What if I go see the Blue Man Group?

[Chad Johnson]

No, that, no, come on. We talking about Rat Pack. Frank Sinatra, Blue Man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You the fan. You the Frank Sinatra fan. I'm g. Go see the Michael Jackson play then.

[Chad Johnson]

No, man, you don't understand, so. You don't understand until you. All right, I'm gonna give you, for comparison and better context for today, the Rat Pack, that show is equivalent to going to a Chris Brown show. Going to see Beyonce. That's exactly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, Lord have mercy.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm, I'm telling you, I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm giving you the comparison of what it was like in the 50s and 60s. The Rat Pack was equivalent to Beyonce and Chris Brown back then. Stage presence, engaging.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, I thought you said okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Making you feel a part of the show.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I've seen it. You know, they talking, they say, smoking the cigarettes. I get it.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes, yes. And they do all that. They do every. It's like you back in the 60s. Go check. Just check it out for me, man. Please, please. The people, they waiting on you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tino Davis said, oh, My birthday is tonight at midnight. Ocho, I want a Jersey. Tino, happy birthday. I don't know about that jersey. He gonna make promises, but you're probably not gonna get it. But anyway, happy birthday. Enjoy today. Do something fun. Another year around the sun, man. And make sure you tell the man thank you for allowing you to see another one.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Big church said someone had too much laporte to drink tonight. Take away. Ball up, bro. Y' all actually think I get on here drunk? Y' all actually think I would. I would go show up to the job. Come on, now. I would. I don't show up on that man job drunk. What makes you think I'm gonna show up on my own at my own place drunk?

[Chad Johnson]

Come on, now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, yeah, but you know what? Ocho? Now you. Saturday, he was at the fight. I could. I can run in. Stephen A. Not what they said online.

[Chad Johnson]

That was a simple conversation, a funny conversation, because they could see me sitting there laughing my ass off.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Stephen A. Did you hear Stephen A. Did you hear what Stephen A said about it?

[Chad Johnson]

Nah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What was. What was Steve. What did I tell Stephen A. What. What did he. Stephen, they told you? I said to him.

[Chad Johnson]

He asked me. I can't. I can't remember.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I asked him. I said, you told me that when I saw you again, you gonna have a six pack. I said. He said, man, I don't. I gained 187because I was. I was right. That ain't no six pack. Stephen A. Daniel. Steve. Hey, Daniel. Six pack. He said, I. Gang, I don't put on 20. I don't put on 15. I think he said, 15 pounds. He said, man, he said, you know, I'm about to eat my. My crunch berries and something else. I said, see, that ain't what you told me. See, I ain't there to keep you. I ain't there to hold you accountable. It was no confrontation. What. What about confronting Stephen A. About.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, it was so funny. I. I posted. I posted us all talking Mrs. But I. I put the song We Are One by Frankie Maze, like. I. I don't know. It's just a good moment.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I said, how did you come to the.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, you know, they're gonna make up their own conclusions based on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's all.

[Chad Johnson]

That's all. You pay that. You pay that. No, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Child, I talked to Stephen A. On the phone. I mean, I talked to him.

[Chad Johnson]

So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

There would be no need to confront him if we have a. If we talk on the phone, which we still do.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why do y' all want. Why do y' all want drama? Why y' all want me? So what would I confront Stephen A.

[Chad Johnson]

About?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm just. That's. That's what I mean. I need somebody to tell me what I'm gonna confront him about. Nothing. Nothing.

[Chad Johnson]

You know. You know, the media. The media gonna run with that. They're gonna create their own little narrative. You know how. You know how that go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, one guy say, you know, he can't read lips, but he can read body language. Boy, boy, boy, must love cash. Super bowl party. Nightcap, live at Ocho's house. I bring plastic cups. Mustard for my glizzy. Yeah, we have it right down there in that white room.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, absolutely not. Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I need red. I need red Kool Aid.

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely not. But when I take. What. Everything in here is white. Everything. Ain't no. Ain't nobody coming in but my kids. My kids got to come here. They take their shoes off. They can't touch nothing. Don't sit on nothing. Go straight to your room.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah. Oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Like my grandma was back with me. Don't you sit on that couch. I say, why I can't sit on the couch? And you got plastic over it. Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That ain't for you to sit on, man.

[Chad Johnson]

Go, man. Go to. Go to your room.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Estral said Ocho like hot dogs without the bun. Damn, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Why would I. Why would I not weather without the bun? It wouldn't be a hot dog. That makes no sense. I don't like no condiments on my hot dog. I like my hot dog with the bun. Bun slightly warmed up a little bit, squeeze it together, and you eat it. Sometimes if it's people around me, I break off a piece, juggle it like dice, pop it in so it's still. So I still look cool.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Don't let you have that one, Ocho. I just want you to know next year, this time, you're not gonna be able to say that. Okay. You know, I got. I got. You know what I'm saying?

[Chad Johnson]

I got what I ain't saying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, thank you. This time I'm. You know, I'll be on probation.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay. Okay. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. We'll be back tomorrow after the Dolphins lose to the Buffalo Bill, but we'll be back tomorrow. Thank you guys for joining us. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. And there he is, my partner and co host Less Celebrity City's own Bingo's Ring of Fame honoree, the former Pro Bowler all probably he's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure y' all hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you sincerely from the bottom of our heart for your support and your continued support. Thanks to you. Nightcap is what it's become. Make sure you check out Shay by La Portier. If you can't find it in a city or state near you ordered online, we'll ship it directly to your door. It is the best tasting premium BSOP cognac on the market and if you haven't tried it, when you do, you'll know that to be true. We have a very special commemorative edition shaved by La Portier to commemorate my brother being inducted into the Pro Football hall of Fame. Just head over to laportierconjac.com to order your bottle before they're all gone. Please go follow my media company page on all of his platforms. Shay, Shay Media and my clothing company 84. With 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned into the chat. Congratulations Sydney McLaughlin on the new American record in the 400 meters. Cordell Tench. Congratulations 12.99 World Champ. And Katie Moon. Congratulations Pole vault world champ. Thank you, thank you, thank you for your your competitive spirit and thank you for break. Hey mj, we counting on you. No Kenny. Jamaicans must go down and they must go down hard. I'm Unc, he's Ocho. See you tomorrow night after the game. Peace.

[Chad Johnson]

Dolphins winning.

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