Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Browns QB competition + Gillie-Johnny Manziel BEEF?!

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 2 Summary

Release Date: August 4, 2025

Hosts: Shannon Sharpe (NFL Legend), Chad Ochocinco
Episode Title: Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho React to Browns QB Competition + Gillie-Johnny Manziel BEEF?!

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1. Browns Quarterback Competition

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco kick off the episode by delving into the intense quarterback competition within the Cleveland Browns. With multiple QBs vying for the starting spot, the discussion centers around player performances, injuries, and the team's strategy moving forward.

• James Cook's Contract Situation:
  Chad Ochocinco expresses skepticism about Browns running back James Cook securing a contract extension comparable to top-tier backs like Saquon Barkley.

  "I think you gonna have to fit somewhere in there. He, he, I don't see him leapfrogging Taylor. Henry McAffrey." [05:00]

• Health Concerns Affecting Performance:
  The conversation highlights how injuries and physical ailments are influencing the quarterback race, particularly focusing on Shador Sanders' rotator cuff issues.

  "When them lights on, that's gonna tell you all you need to know." [14:17]

2. Running Backs' Contract Talks

The hosts delve deeper into the financial aspects of running backs in the NFL, comparing salaries and discussing the evolving market for RB contracts.

• Salary Comparisons:
  Shannon Sharpe breaks down the current salary landscape for running backs, emphasizing the disparity between different players.

  "20 is at 20 million. So he going have to fit somewhere in there." [05:00]

• Future of RB Contracts:
  Discussion on the sustainability of high-paying contracts for RBs, considering the value they bring to their teams.

  "He's a fabulous young running back, but you're not F. To get something comparable to Saquon." [05:00]

3. NFL Players Association Leadership Update

Breaking news is shared regarding the NFL Players Association (NFLPA), announcing David White as the interim executive director. Shannon congratulates White and discusses the implications of this leadership change.

• David White's Appointment:
  An official announcement details David White's selection as the interim executive director of the NFLPA, highlighting his commitment to player rights and solidarity.

  "I'm proud to share what David White has been elected to serve as our interim executive director." [24:44]

• Shannon's Congratulations:
  Shannon offers heartfelt congratulations and reflects on his own qualifications for such a role.

  "Congratulations. You're in a great position obviously to represent us." [26:06]

4. Gillie-Johnny Manziel Conflict

A significant portion of the episode revolves around the escalating feud between Gillie and Johnny Manziel. The hosts analyze the origins, developments, and potential outcomes of this public disagreement.

• Initial Conflicts:
  The tension between Gillie and Johnny escalates with Johnny Manziel making derogatory comments about Gillie, leading to retaliatory responses.

  "Yo, Gilly the kid. You may be the biggest effing loser on the planet." [36:43]

• Shannon's Take on the Feud:
  Shannon views the conflict as entertainment, comparable to famous rap beefs, and encourages both parties to continue their exchanges for mutual platform growth.

  "It's entertainment. You know, Cam. I love you, Gilly." [29:44]

• Chad's Perspective:
  Chad expresses a desire to move past the conflict, suggesting that it's time to focus on other topics like the upcoming football season and training camps.

  "Gilly and Cam ain't gonna be doing this no more." [41:12]

5. Additional NFL Discussions

Beyond the main topics, Shannon and Chad touch upon various other NFL-related subjects, including player performances, training techniques, and strategic team decisions.

• Player Conditioning and Training:
  The importance of physical conditioning is debated, with Shannon advocating for a more relaxed approach during training to prevent injuries.

  "You got to build up a callus in the body. That's why everybody's falling apart." [74:01]

• Team Strategy and Lineup Decisions:
  Conversations about team management decisions, such as player trades and lineup changes, highlight the strategic depth required in NFL team management.

  "Tell Jerry to trade him. You'll see." [82:19]

6. Closing Remarks

The episode concludes with reflections on past discussions, upcoming events, and gratitude towards the listeners for their continued support.

• Shannon's Personal Reflections:
  Shannon shares nostalgic memories from his playing days, emphasizing the camaraderie and challenges faced alongside teammates like Andre Johnson and Antonio Brown.

  "Those are some fun days, you see." [81:07]

• Future Episode Teasers:
  Chad hints at future segments, including coverage of track and field events, indicating the show's commitment to diverse sports discussions.

  "We're going to try to get some of the young men and women to come on and talk to us like we did last year." [83:26]

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• "I think you're gonna have to fit somewhere in there. He, he, I don't see him leapfrogging Taylor. Henry McAffrey." — Chad Ochocinco [05:00]
• "Congratulations. You're in a great position obviously to represent us." — Shannon Sharpe [26:06]
• "Yo, Gilly the kid. You may be the biggest effing loser on the planet." — Johnny Manziel [36:43]
• "It's entertainment. You know, Cam. I love you, Gilly." — Shannon Sharpe [29:44]

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Conclusion

In this episode of Club Shay Shay's Nightcap Hour 2, Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco provide insightful and engaging commentary on the Cleveland Browns' quarterback and running back scenes, the recent leadership changes within the NFLPA, and the intriguing feud between Gillie and Johnny Manziel. Their dynamic discussion, peppered with notable quotes and thoughtful analysis, offers listeners a comprehensive look into current NFL affairs and entertaining personal anecdotes.

Transcript

[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Chad Ochocinco]

Bill's running back James Cook did not practice today. Cook is seeking a contract extension but was present at mandatory minicamp. Reported to training camp and had participated thus far. Kept it short. When asked why he sat out business he said would ask if he will practice Monday. Business would James Cook being full pads for Buffalo Bills week one against the Ravens. It's being reported. I don't know if it's true. We gotta, we gotta, we gotta provide context for everything now. OO is that he will ask for a deal similar to what the Eagles gave Saquan. James, I don't think you gonna get that, bro. I'm just Gonna be honest with you. I think I, I think you're a fab, a fabulous young running back, but you're not f, you're not F. To get something comparable to Saquon. I don't even, I don't think you'll get something comparable to, to, to Mac. C. Mac. I don't think it's nothing comparable with the D. Henry. What, what does Derek Henry make ash? 16.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, that's, that's tough.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They just, because, oh, Joe, we got to think about Ocho. They just started paying running backs the last two years.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's tough. And listen, they, they, they started paying the running backs the last two years and they playing the tier one running backs, right? You know, I see Cook as, as, as, as two. Right? He's, he's right there. You know, he, he was an intricate part of that offense last year he was an intricate part of that offense last year and had very, very, very many plays. Very, very many plays. Cuz he fits very well in that system along with Josh.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Saquan.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's one.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, Henry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

See Mac, let me ask you a question. Okay, so we're gonna put Josh Jacobs, you like him? Next. Jonathan Taylor.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I forgot about J, I forgot about J.T. he, he's in that class though. He's, he's in that, you know, you know, you know who we don't talk about enough too, since we're on the topic of running backs. Kyron Williams over there with the Rams.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, Kyro Williams. Yeah. Yeah. Excuse me. Joe Mixon had a nice year. I, I, I mean 20, another 20 million. I, I just don't see it. Now, I'm not saying look, deserve, earn. I don't, I don't see them paying that, that asking price. Saquon is at 20 million. Christian McCaffrey is at 19 million. Derrick Henry is at 15 million. Jonathan Taylor's at 14 million. Alvin Camara is at 12, 250. Josh Jacobs 12. Aaron Jones 10. James Connor, 9.

[Shannon Sharpe]

James.

[Chad Ochocinco]

David Montgomery, 9 point. Well, James Conor is 9.5. David Montgomery 9.125. And Ramanre Stevenson is at 9 million. So you see 10 is at 9 million. 20 is at 20 million. So he gonna have to fit somewhere in there. He, he, I don't see him leapfrogging Taylor. Henry McAffrey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I, I don't know.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He said he wants something comparable to Saquon. Saquon's at the top of the food chain at 20.6 and he just came off of 2000. He just came off offensive Player of the year and he ran his team to the Super Bowl.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's. That, that. That's tough. That's tough. I love Cook.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Derek Henry just had 1921 yards, led the league in Russian touchdowns. We know Christian McCaffrey the year before he was offensive player of the year. We know what he is when he's healthy. Jonathan Taylor, he. Because Saquan and. And D. Henry had such unbelievable seasons, we forget he had an unbelievable season also. But because those two guys were battling out for 2000 and. And Saquan got it and Henry was like 79 yards short, we kind of forgot about him. And we know Josh Jacobs, what he. What he. Ooo.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Really, brother Cook. Hold it, hold it. Jen Cook. Man, I want home team. Got to get his money though, man. He gotta get.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He can't be more than. He can't be more than 25. O see.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, so listen, if he's not more than 25, right. If he's not more than 25, yeah. There's no reason why he can't be slaughtered at. Right about. About 12, huh? 12 or 13. 12 or 13 is. Is. Is fair. Even if. If at 25, you still got a. A lifespan of maybe another seven years, especially in that offense over there in Buffalo, in that pacific offense, you can still like. I don't think there are that many running backs you can go find right now that can do what James Cook does. I don't think people, let's, let's not be fooled.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He'll be 26 on. He'll be 26.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, stop playing. Give him that 13. He's young. It's not that many running backs that can do what he does. We talk about coming out the backfield, lining up.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, you can run. Yeah, I agree. But see. Oh, but see, you see how you being realistic? You say somewhere between 12, 13, maybe money, bro, bro. He said he want to deal comparable to Saquan. 20 and Saquan think about Oo. Saquan signed a free agent deal. Saquan pray so good. They tore the deal up and made him the highest paid even after signing a free agent deal. Derek Henry played so well last year, even after signing a free agent deal, they tore it up and gave him a new deal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn, man, I want my dog to get paid too. Man. That's home team, man. That's home team. Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But I think the thing is, Ocho, we got to be realistic. They just started paying running backs the last year and a half, two years.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They paying the special ones, though. They're not paying any and everybody they're paying a special. When James true based on what he does like he ain't ain't no slouch now he's important part of that offense. He makes that offense go. Now we know. We know Josh Allen. We know what Josh Allen is. He's my boy. Josh Allen overs over there with no superstars, no true number one running backs, but I mean wide receivers. But you do have another weapon. And goddamn James Cook, huh? You got. You got Shakira. Nice solid. Just got paid in the off season if I'm not mistaken. Keon Coleman up and coming young bull.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Don't they got the kid from San Diego, didn't they. Didn't they. Didn't they sign him in freezing San Diego?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Chargers?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. I'm excited. The LA Chargers. Yeah. Didn't they sign Palmer?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Josh Palmer is over there. Huh? Is it Josh? Josh Palmer, right? I think, I think his first name Josh, if I'm not mistaken. Hey. God damn, but that's a tough one. Listen, honestly, I wouldn't want. I wouldn't want to be an owner. I wouldn't want to be him.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't want to be a GM.

[Chad Ochocinco]

26 his birthday, Josh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't want to be a gym. When it comes to like fringe fringe situations like this, we can go either way. I want to be a GM where it comes to no brainers. Oh, that's easy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, no, no. You got to make.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't like the tough decisions like.

[Chad Ochocinco]

This because you can't keep everybody. You got to decide, okay, do I get off this guy? And then you one time you get off somebody like, you let somebody go and then they go gangbusters. Kind of like what Derek Henry did. They're like, what the hell were you thinking about? You let Dick Henry go to bro.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But also listen, Giants.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Giants. What are you thinking about? You let Saquon go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Tennessee. What the hell are you thinking? You let A.J. brown go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This is the thing. You have to think about it. The timing and the places where these individuals went was very important. Very important.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Saquon. Saquon left a disgruntled a not so good offense in New York and went to the Philadelphia Eagles with the best offensive line. Tennessee. I'm not sure what you were thinking or what you were looking at, but.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Derek Henry didn't the Derek Henry Derrick Henry gonna be Derek Henry wherever he go.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That'S tough.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. We. We wish you to I. I cook.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Get Your money, baby. Do what you got.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Maybe 13, 14, 15, maybe in that range, but that 19, 20, 13, 5.

[Shannon Sharpe]

13, 13, 5. He only 25. Only 5. Hey, Josh, Allen. Josh, Allen, man. You. You need to interfere. Intervene. Intervene. Please intervene. Listen, you know how much power Josh got? Do you understand? I don't think people understand. Do you know how much power the quarterback. The quarterback has in situations like this, man? Josh, go up there right now, man. What's, what's the. What's the owner name? I forgot his name. I met him.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Very, very cool.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ga. His daughter's really good at tennis, huh? She's really good at tennis. You know, Mr. Pula, man. Josh, go the man. Listen, mister, I don't want any more distractions. I don't want any more distractions. Brother Cook. Brother Cook is a very important part of our offense. He takes some of the pressure off me, some of the pressure off my shoulders. Let's. Let's find a way to get this.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Is it not, bro? I gave you 330 million. Need to put more pressure on your shoulder, so get out my office. Nah, hell no. As a matter of fact, I'm going to trade it for three. Hey, for 330. For 300. Well, for 330 million, what I'm paying you and 250 million guaranteed on your. Nah, bro, I ain't trying to take no pressure off your shoulder. Unfortunately, I'm not gonna be able to do that, Josh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, that's a good one. That's a good one. I forgot. I forgot he paid Josh all that goddamn money. Oh, shoot.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The Browns were off today. Here's how the four quarterbacks have performed through nine training camp practices. Kenny Pickett has not done team drill since last week due to hamstring injury. Shador Sanders missed one practice team rep with arm soreness, but Joe Flacco is 54 of 92, three touchdowns, no interceptions. Sanders, Shador, 49, 76 touchdowns, no interceptions. Dylan Gabriel, 62 of 113, four touchdowns, two picks. Kenny Pickett, 23 or 34, three touchdowns, one interception.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Shador reported that, man, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That rotator cup, that little rotator cup.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I mean, you're throwing a lot, you know, for him to say that and not just eat it because he is in a stiff competition battle. That tells you that it's bothering him. It's bothering because a lot of time when you're in a silk ocho. Look, me, I was a low round draft pick. You have this word about you. A second round pick. But I have a little nick Nah, bro, I'm in a competition. I'm good. You. You. You eat. You sit on things. Knee sore, you know, Ankle sore, shoulder sore, something sore, you know, you just. You just, you know, you got a thigh bruise or something, you just eat that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, the body. The body will tell you when it shut down. The body will tell you when it shut down. And I listen the quarterback tracker. That's cool. That's all fine and dandy to me. It doesn't mean much. It doesn't mean much to me. I don't care how much you complete. I don't care how much, how. How many. How many touchdowns you've thrown in practice against a team that sees you every day against a team. Against the defense where everything is scripted.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The. All.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The defense, the players, the defense, the coaches, Everything is scripted perfectly so the quarterback makes the right decision on where to go with the ball based on what's across from you. I want to look like, yeah, we want.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I want to get a look. I want to get a look against a certain coverage. So I dial up that coverage. I call up this play against that coverage because I want to see what this play looks like against Cover 2 or Cover 6 or Quarters a Cover 1, Cover 3, 7, Cloud 25, whatever the case may be. Same thing in the defense. I want to see this defense against this formation. So you call this defense and you tell the offense to give you this formation.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep. That's why I listen. I take that with a grain of salt. And also another thing, the fact that when it comes to the interceptions or even the completions or the touchdowns, when you're playing against your own team, right, and the defense has seen it over and over and over, they know the route concepts, they know the formations, they know what's coming. So what do defenders and DBs tend to do? They tend to cheat a little bit. They tend to sit on routes. Listen, I want to see what you look like in the preseason when they don't know what you're running, when the bullets are flying.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Exactly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When it's. When it's like really go time and you get practiced 100 times, you get in the game, it's completely different. The speed of the game is. Is five times faster than what it is in practice. And you don't realize until you get out there on a Sunday. That's when I want to see Shador. That's when I want to see Dylan Gabriel and Kenny Pickett. Whenever he gets healthy, we already know who gonna be the starter. The starter. The starter is going to be the veteran who's been around for a very long time, that's neither here nor there. But coming down to the preseason and how they perform in the preseason is going to tell who's going to be second string. That's it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, I used to hurt Ocho what you just talked about DBs and then getting it and getting the game, and the first thing I say. Oh, I guess he didn't tip that rod off, huh? You jumping everything in practice. You looking like. You looking like time in practice. You knocking down everything. Hey, hey, you tipped that one off. I. I guess he ain't ti. That one off.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, listen, you. You can't do that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, you looked at the card. You saw the formation. You saw where the ball was going, and you knocked it down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You. You can't play. You can't play that on Sunday.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But come. But come game time, you ain't knock nothing down. You only knock the man down. Somebody else got to make the tackle.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's different.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's what make me mad, brother. Oh, so I never. I never looked at. Okay, they got this defense. Hey, I'm just. Hey, without scout team, I'm going out there. Hey. Oh, he getting the ball. Hey, man, let me get that right there. I'm following the ball. Dang. But he go. They gonna go. Look, they go. Look where the ball going. They knock the ball down, bro. Stop. You ain't knocked the ball down all year. Now all of a sudden, you want to be time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, man, listen, when them lights on, that's gonna tell you all you need to know. I'll tell you exactly.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because you're going to get somebody that's fighting for his life, that's as scared, if not more scared than you. So, yeah, I want. That's what I want to see. But, you know, look, also, you know, sometimes. You know, sometimes making a team come down to injuries. I've seen. I've seen guys be in a commanding position and get nicked, and that opportunity goes to somebody else. And if somebody else gets an opportunity to shine, I. I hate this for Shador, because like you said, but he is in a quarterback battle. Hopefully, you know, with some rest, some ice stem, he's able to go out there and perform at a high level. But, you know, he's. You're throwing. That's why a lot of times, you know, they bring extra quarterbacks in because the quarterback arm does get thrown, because he's throwing a lot more than what he threw in the off season. And the last thing you Want. You don't want. You don't. You don't want a sore arm, but you don't want a dead arm either. So there's a. There, there's a balance. There's a fine line between making sure I get enough throw then. But I'm not throwing too much. But I'm not throwing too little either. But Ocho says he don't care about Flacco being 54. 92, three touchdowns. Shador 49 of 76 touchdowns, zero picks. Dylan Gabriel 62 of 113, four touchdowns, two interceptions. Kenny Pickett, they hadn't played a whole lot, tweaked that hamstring or he has a strain in his hammy and kind of been sidelined. So. But he's. He has the fewest attempts, but he's 23 or 34. Three touchdowns, one interception.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That don't mean nothing. The numbers and stat. I don't mean nothing. What you gonna look like with lifestyle, baby?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, you. Hey. That don't mean nothing to us, but when I was getting them tubs, they meant something to me. Hey, O joke bad when I get. Hey, man, let me catch a touchdown or get me get a 20 yard, 15 yard game against the number one def. Gain against number one defense.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Got that? I got you. I feel you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, bro, this the starters. These the guys that's gonna be playing on Sunday.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And me when is when. When the Browns first preseason game is.

[Chad Ochocinco]

This week, isn't it Everybody open everybody this week because the hall of Fame game. So everybody gonna start playing Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what it's all about.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So we're gonna. And I'm sure he's gonna get some time because they don't. They don't. They play Friday. Actually they're playing Friday.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And they play in the Panthers and here. And the thing is, Ocho, is that I don't even know who the start is. But we know starters don't really play in the preseason. And if they do, they get a drive or something like that and then they. They go hit it. Hit the ground running on. On Sunday.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wait a minute. It's. It's preseason. So it's gonna be the Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders show, right?

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's what I'm saying. Because the starters are not gonna play. So they're gonna get. They're gonna get an opportunity.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, absolutely. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm gonna be tuned in too. I'm tuned in because I know, I know, I know of. Well, hell should Dylan Gabriel too, because he played, and he's played under the lights, and he showed out yours. Played under the lights, and he showed out. Different ball game in the NFL, baby. It's a whole different ball game. You got to be able to process that information very fast.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All I know. I don't know how they do it, but I looked at. Everybody was trying to take food off my table. Everybody was trying to steal my car. Everybody was trying to put granny back in our house. I don't know what that looks like. I don't know what. I don't know what. What their focus is and how they make sure they get themselves ready to go do what they need to do, but that's what I thought. Everybody. Everybody has something that gets them into the place where they can do what they need to do, Ocho, whatever that may be. I got kids. I got a wife. Kid need to go to private school. Like, hey, whatever. Yeah, something. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever gets you there. Whatever it is, do that. The naysayers, I. I really never tried to prove anybody. I was just trying to prove me right. Because if I prove me right, you'll be wrong. You will. And then everybody was like, I knew. Oh, I. I knew it because I saw him. No, you didn't. I heard what you said. That's not what you say. I know what you're saying now, man. Man, I knew h. I knew he was gonna go to the hall of Fame. What? Really? I didn't even know that. I was hoping I could just. I hope I could just get a season in the way it started off for me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now the people just be talking.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They do lie. Oh, your people lie to your face. I told such and such. No, you didn't, man. I knew, man. I saw Ocho in high school, man. I knew. Ultra, man. I knew Ocho was going to the NFL. Really? You knew that, huh? What if that man bounced around the country trying to find a school to take him? You knew he's gonna go to the NFL.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. In high school, I wasn't. I was. I was. Okay. There's a way. Hey, well, high school down here. Back in the night, boy. Hey, Miami, Northwestern, back then in 96, Carroll City North.

[Chad Ochocinco]

St. Thomas. St. Thomas has always been good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what? I didn't know much about St. Thomas back. I only knew. I only knew about the inner city schools. Norland, Jackson, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So I like. Yeah, but I. I'm like you. Hopefully, like I said, Shador is able to go and get an opportunity to say, see what he can do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I remember. I remember My first time in high school, you know, I was. When I was at quarterback, new 80 blue 80. Alert, alert, alert, alert, alert, alert.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Boy. What? Nobody said no alert back then. You just ran the plate.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you know, I was the quarterback at Beach High. Now I was a quarterback at Miami Beach. I was trying to follow in somari footsteps and you know, you know I was on the same team with Samari, Dwayne Starks, Terry Cousins.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I was the baby.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was the first.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I think. I think Samari ended up going to Baltimore too, because Samari. I played against Samaritan me in Tennessee and Baltimore.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it's funny, we was all on the same. We was all on the same team. I was, I was.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And y' all ain't win nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, it was. It was just us, man. It was just us. It was just us.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's more than enough.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Starks with the quarterback. Samari was a receiver then D. Starks left went to um Then Samari was his senior year. He was a quarterback. I was a receiver then. When Samari left, I wanted. Then I went to the quarterback. I should.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oo we have breaking. We have breaking news. Adam Shefter is reporting. David White has been selected as the NFL PA interim executive director. The statement read out of Jaylen Reeds Mabin. On behalf of the NFL PA board of players representatives, I'm proud to share what David White has been elected to serve as our interim executive director. This decision is a result of comprehensive player led pro a player led process. We understand the urgency to fill the role and we did our due diligence to identify the right person to lead our union in this moment. We have full faith in David to take the union forward and operate in the best interest of our membership. David has spent much of his career fighting for collectively bargain rights and labor movement and is committed to putting players first in all union does. We are confident that will he will inspire solidarity and provide the necessary stability during this period of transition. Soon we will commence a thorough search process for a permanent executive director. This process will continue to be player led as the strength of our union has and will always lie with. With our membership.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey listen. Congratulations. Congratulations brother. David White.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You. You.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're in a great position obviously to represent. Represent us. You got a tall task ahead of you, baby. You got a tall task ahead of you. You know, I wish you nothing but success and. And getting things done the right way. And that's pretty much it. If, if you guys are looking for an executive director, I I am here. I could submit my resume. It speaks for itself on and off the field. So I look forward to hearing from you everyone over at the nflpa. You know, there are two sides of me. There's a Johnson, there's the Ocho, you know, business.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, we got something we want you to expand on. Hear this Ocho. This Gilly Cam beef is expanding. First, Cam again.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Responded to Gilly. And then. Let's listen to camp. Damn. Cam responded again.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They still going at it?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Here we go. Right.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, I. I told him to chill, right? I told him chill. They're not gonna listen to me. But you know what? I like it. Huh? You hear me? Hear me? I like it. Gilly, I know you're gonna see this boy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I love you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You Hear me, Cam. I know you're gonna see this, boy. I love you. You hear me? Y' all keep having at it. Keep having fun. Keep jigging. You know, it's a good thing sometimes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Can we advance the ball? Okay, everybody's. Everybody's made.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, the point. The points haven't been made, but they have to. You have to keep going. Somebody talk about you, you talk about them, and you keep going back and forth until you. Until you be like, you know what? Okay, you done? Are you finished? Is you cool? Until. Until somebody stop. Until somebody wave a white flag. It's okay. You know why it's okay? It's entertainment.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Why?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what it does for both of their platforms? It continues to bring eyes, views, regardless of what other. Other people may feel. It's entertainment. At the end of the day, at the.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All this. All. All this because Cam said he doesn't think Jalen Hurst is a top 10 quarterback. And Gilly said, well, but at what point in time do we advance the ball?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You. You. What? What did he say?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Jayla Hurst did what you could do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, that's fine. I like the jigging back and forth. It's okay. Like, listen, you. You a prime example of Jones and back in the day, this is just another. Another. Another type of Jones and another type of jab and going back and forth, and it's fun. And you know why I like it? You know, I really like it because it's gonna always stay on the mic. It's not going anywhere past. No different than rap beef. No different than 50 and Rick Ross. No different than. Than Kendrick and. And Drake. I'm not saying it's that big to that magnitude, but just still, it's going to stay on the mic. That's what makes it fun. It's entertainment, you know, so, Cam. I love you, Gilly. Y' all, boys, man, you know, when.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Did Cam went with this? Today?

[Shannon Sharpe]

A few days ago. From. A few days? Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay. Because I. Because I. I think Cam is saying something about. About his rap career. You know, he didn't have no hits or something like that. And then Gilly responded.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, So I like it. I like. I like it, man. You know, have some fun. You know, it's all fun. It's all entertainment. You know, you talk about me, I'm gonna talk about you. You know, you go low, I'm gonna go lower. You know, hey, you know, I like it. And I. I'm loving it, and I'm encouraging it simply because it's staying on the mic that's it. And I like it. It's fun. And how. How creative can you get?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, he run okay. Gilly did. Gilly didn't. Did not play. Did not play football. Okay. Gilly did not have maybe the rap career that he wanted. He's been able to transition very well. Cam. What do you say about Cam? The guy was a five star. He went to the University of Florida. Like I ain't gonna get no playing time behind Tim Tebow goes to Blynn Junior college, wins the national championship. He comes back and go back and look at Cam. That one year he played at Auburn. He wins the national championship. They're 15 and 0. He wins the Heisman. His career. College career, boom. Chef kiss.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

NFL career, rookie of the year. He's an mvp. Leads attend to a Super Bowl. But me, for me, Cam is not a one play guy. Everybody wants to reduce Cam to that one play in which he didn't jump on the football. Cam's more than that. You don't play a decade in this league and only be that. He's not that. Okay? If you say that's his worst moment, his best moment is winning the mvp. Okay, so somewhere in the middle is what he is gonna treat it like Jim masses. We're gonna take out the high score, we're gonna take out low score. We're gonna combine the middle. We're gonna matter of fact.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you know, I heard. I heard Cam say something.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What Cam say?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cam told Gilly you would never be able to beat me in nothing. And he named different sports that Gilly wouldn't be able to beat him in. But I think there might be one basketball. I'd pay good money to see basketball.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Cam gonna try, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, I don't know if Cam can play basketball.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Cam might be done.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Got two muscle, but Gilly can hoop. What? I know Cam. Cam hoop too. I would pay whatever to have a fourth and one in a million dollars worth of game one on one. Now I'm told. Hey, fellas, listen to me. I know y' all having your. Your verbal sparring match right now. Listen to what I just said. One on one fourth and one versus a million dollars worth of game one on one. I'm giving you ideas because we need to keep making. Doing one thing. Stay with me now. I'm telling you, man. Gilly, listen to me. Keep having fun, but keep the main thing. The main thing. Yeah, man. Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ocho. And then Gilly kind of responded. He had a birthday party.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, that's a Super bowl trophy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Big Dom brought it down to him for his birthday party.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's dope, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They love. Hey, they look.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They do. They do.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They love Gilly, man. Gilly be in the locker room. Gilly be coming out there. Hey, Gilly be having them hype.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think I'm do. I'm gonna do that with the Bangles, man. I'm gonna do that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You first of all, you know, boy, Gilly, born and raised in Philly. He's been a Philly fan life.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay?

[Chad Ochocinco]

You a Dolphins fan. You didn't do that for the Dolphins.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I could be like.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You grew up with the Dolphins.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So I could be like, I got too many jobs.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You will get a Dolphin suit job.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't have time. I ain't got time.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, but hey, hey, I like that. I like. I love the verbal back and forth between them, but.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, you're gonna love this. Johnny Manziel saw that and tweeted, yo, Gilly the kid. You may be the biggest effing loser on the planet. Talking like you've been like you effing doing. Done anything on a football field. If I see you just know I'm going to slap the f. Trust.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What. When did all this happen?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, I kind of been, you know, I kind of had an eventful week weekend, so I. I've been out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How did I miss all this?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Damn. All them jobs you got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How did John, how Johnny got into it? How Johnny and Gilly. Why? Where they going?

[Chad Ochocinco]

I Cam, Johnny's a Heisman trophy winner.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So you know the same thing, Cam. Like, bro, you talking like you was out there catching touchdown passes, running the football.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I get it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I get Johnny's like, bro, hold on. You ain't do nothing to contribute to that. So it did I bad. It's gonna be a double in the battle. This gonna be the 100 year war. Hold on. And I think. Hello.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He responded.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Didn't like that. Gilly didn't like what Johnny had to say.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And this is what he posted.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wait, you eating donuts? Coke. What's that? Powder donuts.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Cocaine.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I thought. I thought Gilly. I thought he was eating donuts. I thought it was powder donuts. And he. We were eating. But okay, I. I see. I'm. I'm. I'm old, man. I'm old. I. I ain't know. So obviously he's taking a shot at. At Johnny because I guess he has some type of.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Whatever the bad say you want to slap the thing. Gonna slap the man on the Site.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't think he. I don't think, I don't think.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But Gilly responded. Gilly says, look, Gilly said some other stuff. Responding to what Johnny said, but we ain't going there. Y'. All, y' all want to find out what, what, what, what Gilly response was? Outside of that, y' all have at it. But this as far as we go with it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So Johnny, Johnny and hey, Boom, here it is. Here we go again. We got a money making opportunity again. Gilly in the ring. Gilly, you know, you know how you got that philly shell on you? That philly shell, huh? You know, think about it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

What finish you talking about?

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you mean? Gilly, Gilly. Gilly kabox too. Now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I know. Gilly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gillian, Gilly and Johnny settle their differences in the ring. Headgear, 16 ounce gloves. Four rounds, three minute rounds, you know. Oh, you gonna slap me when you see me. Now's your opportunity. Boom. Get the sponsors behind it. Keep the main thing. The main thing. Come on, man. Come on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Gilly, Cam, can we be done with this?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, keep it going.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You made. You made your point. We got a lot of other stuff to talk about. We got football season right around the corner. We got training camp. We got a lot of stuff we can talk about. You made your point. Everybody made their point. We get. We get it. I get it, man. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Forget what un talk about, baby. Let's make this money. You hear me? I'm. I'll be Don king.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You ain't got no hair.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's coming though. Wave check.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And this man and this man over there talking about, man, what those powder donuts Thought he was eating powder D.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like Gilly doing sitting there eating them goddamn powder donuts, man, with the stuff all over his face. So now I, I get. I get it now. I get it now.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I knew you to get it then.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My bad. My bad, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, Lord have mercy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know about that stuff, man. I don't know. I don't know about that stuff, man.

[Chad Ochocinco]

So we moving on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Keep going.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Gilly and Cam ain't gonna be doing this no more.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like some. Some cardi B. Remember? Remember Cardi B. Right when we beef forever. I think she wanted to had that quote. And them two is gonna go on forever. You don't have to, but I. I think it should because it could be beneficial for both sides. I like it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I think both guys can make content. Million dollar worth the game. Been at this, Gilly, while you just.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Said they can make content right but when you do this type of content, you know, with the.

[Chad Ochocinco]

People get tired of hearing you bicker back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You look at the numbers of the verbal jabbing. The verbal jabbing content and your regular content. Guess who, guess which one is gonna have the most views and the most.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, it will. But after, but, but even, guess what I mean, people like looking at, like looking out the window when it's raining, but after a while they get tired of doing it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's been long enough. It's only been a week. Huh? It's only. They've been going out.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They're good. That's plenty. That's plenty. That's more than enough time. I think everybody's made some great points. It's funny, it's entertaining. But I think now it's time for we can move on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I love them boys, man. Y' all keep having.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, of course. Yeah, I'm, I'm looking, looking forward to doing million dollar with the game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you, you going on now. Yeah. That's gonna be live. That's gonna be live. That's gonna be live.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Because I, I, I had outside with both of those guys and individually, you know, because I think, because both of them have very interesting stories and I didn't, I didn't want it to, I didn't want it to like, I wanted Gilly to have his time. I wanted Wallow to have his time because I think they have very interesting stories outside of one another. Now we can, we could intertwine and we can talk about how do you guys come together and come up with million dollars with the game and yada yada, yada. But I want to hear each of you individual stories and then you know, you, we can all tie it together in a nice, in a nice bow. But. Oh, yeah, yeah, we, that's definitely, that's, that's a must. That's a must. No. Oh, Joe, we got to talk about the USA tracking field.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What you see, you seen Kenny and, and Noah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

I like it. A little healthy competition.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No disrespect.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I'm a farm believer.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He stared you down. It's sport emotions. I'm happy. Last time we raced you beat me. Okay, he was fresh. So your excuse for losing is? Well, I wasn't fresh.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's not excuse. That's true. You run rounds. There's a reason why it's hard. Everybody we've seen guys. You've seen guys oo like you got to run rounds. There is difference between running rounds and running one race.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I understand, but still that's why you gota.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's why I respect so much the world record that you say bo set because he said it during rounds just Imagine the time that he could have run if he just won one race. He got fresh legs. Not rounds, fresh legs. Now, look, I'm a firm believer you don't like somebody doing something. If I'm in a sporting event, I don't like the guy, hey, taking his time running around the base. Well, I ain't gonna throw you no ball that you can hit on the fence if you don't like me dancing in. I tell people all the time, man, Tio doing too much. Keep his ass out the end zone. He won't dance. You don't want him to dance, keep him at the end zone. You don't want no allows to stare you down and do all those antics. Don't let him cross the finish line before you. That's what the Tibogo did at the Olympics. He want to see. He want to see all this. So he beat him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I mean, listen, I, I like.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I ain't got no problem.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like we don't have. We don't have. This track is always all goddamn Kumbaya. Oh, respect me.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, no, no, no, no, it's not. No, they don't get along like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, I know, I know they don't. But this, this is okay. Showing emotion. I won. I stared you down. Okay, Boom, you lost. Kenny put his hands on Noah, you know, because of this thing. You know, they exchanged some.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Bro, you all in my lane.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now we have, now we have a nice rivalry. I'm not sure when the next time they get to meet up, but guess where everybody gonna be tuned in at the World Championship. Everybody be tuned in at the world championships waiting on them to race. And they all gonna have to go through the rounds, so it won't be any. Yes, I'm excited. Now. This is good. This is good.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah. Because you know what, Ocho? Cause I think, I think in Noah. Yeah. Noah is the, the. The 100 meter champ.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

At the world. So he's all automatic. He got an automatic qualifier. So that's why he pulled out and says, okay, I'm just gonna do okay, okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm excited. Listen, Kenny. Kenny ran a good race, a very, very good race. Nor ran.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, he ran 970, right. He. He pr. He personal best in, in the, in the hundred at 979, which is also. Which happens to be the fastest the world leading time this year. He comes back, follows it up, runs the rounds and runs 1962 67, which is probably one of what, second fastest time he's ever run after running rounds so he can't, like you said, feel that he was fresh. He can't be. He can't be too mad.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you're gonna be all right. He gonna be all right. Both of them gonna be all right. I know one thing, they've made watching the sport of track that much more exciting because we have something to look forward to. We have something to look forward to. A lot of people is frowned upon in the track world and then in that track community. But now you got people who don't even watch track now. Okay, you know what? Oh, no. When Kenny, they got into it. Well, what happened? Okay, I watched it. Oh, I saw what Kenny said. Okay. I heard what Noah said. I saw you push king. You know what? All that. I want to tune now. I want to see what happens when they race next. This is bringing eyes and viewers to a sport that many watch that are part of the track world now. We're going to have eyes and viewers of people that don't even watch track because they want to see what's going to happen when Kenny and goddamn no allows race.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, it's hard to get involved because your. Your premier event. Just imagine if you only had the super bowl once every four years.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's difficult, understandable.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You only had the World Series once every four years. You had the NBA championship once every four years. The biggest event is once every four years and they race. And a lot of times it's. It's delayed or you got to get up in the wee hours of the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Morning based on where they are. Based on. Right, right.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I think, I think probably you at the LA will probably be highest because guess what, it's specific time. You know, it ain't the six hours, the nine hours, the 10, 11 hour difference in time. So now, hey, you can watch it at a decent time. You can, you know, a lot of these things. But think about it, Ocho. The hundred meter dash is the signature event. That thing happened so early. That was yesterday. Let that sink in. That just goes to show you how the luster of the 100 meter dash, the men's 100 meter dash, that used to close the shut. That was, bro. You think they let usain boat run on the day that they gonna close the Olympics down the trial? Come on, man, that's usain. Look, like I said, Kenny, if you don't want the man to showboat, you got to cross the line before he does. Because if he crosses the line before you, he did the same thing to Arian Knighton when he called him off the turn, and he pulled up and clipped him. That. This. Hey, you ain't want to. Doing all y' all dances and signing. Signing footballs. Keeping my dance on. Don't be talking about. Man, he ain't gotta. That's your job. His job is to dance. Your job to keep him from dancing. I. I don't. I don't. I don't have a problem. I don't have a problem. Like I said, I think the bigger problem was is that when they come up, the thing is that he got, like, in his lane. Cause I got no choice. Cause if he's in his lane, how can I. If I'm in my lane. Oo, and you in your lane. How can I push you in your.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Back Once you start to hit that curve after you pass the finish line, people run straight. They don't run in the lane around the country.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Well, don't. What? Don't run in my lane. Look at you. Catch his elbow direct to the ball of the back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Then you'd have had him two out there tussling.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, hey. It is what it is. What it is. Nah, but look, Usain has some. You know, Usain did his lightning bolts and, you know, he's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he had his. He had his.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You know, he. And you know, look, Noah's trying to get the crowd involved. He's trying to, you know. Hey, he's trying to bring excitement. Today was really good. There was some. There was some great. The kid from Texas. The kid is 16 and ran 1:42, 27 in 800 meters, which is, I'm not mistaken, like the fifth fastest time. I think. Yes. Might be the fifth fastest time for an American. That's crazy. We see melissa jefferson go 1065, which is one of the fastest times ever tracked for a woman. And then she backs it up with 2184. We see Sid. Sis. Like, you know what? I've been so dominant, I would let somebody else win. Because y' all know y' all can't see me in the hurdles. Nobody. I understand Femke can run all the time. She won't. Ain't nobody past present or. I am the greatest 400 meter women's hurdler in the history of the sport. And if y' all keep talking. But I ain't gonna do it because she's already said in post race interviews, Sydney announces she was complete. So compete solely in the 400 meter flat and not the hurdles. Well, she had no choice. Cause Paulino. And also, we ain't bull driving. They not bull driving. And. And Sydney is phenomenal. But 4890 ain't gonna win it. I don't see Paulino go 48. 11. I don't seen go. Go mid 48. She gonna have to run. She gonna have to go low.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You also have to think about it when it comes to track and it comes to some of the times right now, it takes running against the best to pull it up out of you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

When they gonna pull it apart? Because Pauline Paulina can go out, NASA can go out. They can push the pace. They can push the pace. Now I want to see it. I want to see it to go sub 50 and the hurdles and put that record out there, sort of be like Flo Joes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nobody could tell them.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You see a lot of it. You see a lot of. Hey, that 2133 and that 1049. I'm oldest. Remember when she. She said that she went that 2133 and sold and she went to. If I'm not mistaken, the 1049 is what she ran in in Indy. I think the. The trials were in India that year. There's a lot of talk about the gauges and all that stuff, but all I know hey, is documented down. But that 2133, who is that? Jackson got close either. Elaine Thompson. Bro, until someone get below 21 4, then y' all talk to me. Then y' all talk to me like. Like, until somebody like, oh, oh, oh, you go. They gonna get you saying, bro, until I see somebody go low. Until I see somebody go 965, then I'm like. But until somebody go 965, ain't no. Nobody been. Ain't nobody. Ain't no man been. Not other than who is that? Tyson Gay and what's the guy. The. The Jamaican. What's the other Jamaican? Ran969. But ain't no. When's the last time somebody ran. Ran 971. Oo when last time somebody read 972 and y' all talking about breaking 958.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No time.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Not anytime soon.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Soon.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Do y' all realize. But it. Hey, there was some racing going on today. Oo there. There was some racing going on today. Hey, that 800 meters for Donovan Brazier to come back and have the injuries that he had, and he came back with a 143. And then he comes back today and he wins the trial at142.16. Johan. Johan Blake. Yeah. So he and Tyson Gay they tied with969. But you saying them ran 963, 958. 968.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boy, he got three fans.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Time never run.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boy Moving. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I still believe that he would ran sub 955 had he not celebrated in Beijing. If you go back and look at what he's doing the last 10 meters of the race, he's sideways pounding his chest and he's clear of the field. But we're gonna be geeked up. We're gonna be covered. You're gonna be covered. These. Hey, that for a. That 400 meters, somebody might. Somebody might look that American record of. Of. Of. I. I think Sonia Richards Ross. It's 48.70. I think that's the American record. 4760. The world record. Moderna Coke. And then you got Krachalova. So you've only got two women that's ever go sub 48. 2. 47.99 and 4760. Pushing it with Nasser, Polino and Sid. You might get a low sub 4. You might get a low 48. You might get sub.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't have no choice.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Right? Right conditions, right track, right competitors.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, special things happen when the best of the best are racing each other.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yep, yep. You might. Melissa. Oh, Melissa Jefferson and Julian Alfred, the Saint Lucian. Hey, I gotta see this because Melissa Jefferson. Get out. I'm tell. Hey, you. Hey. You can't spot her. The Julian Alfred. Hey, she powerful. She is a powerful woman. But boy, Melissa Jefferson scat. Boy, she could. Oh, Ocho, she could scat. She can scat. Yeah, but that's gonna be the rate that's gonna be. Hey, look, T. Shane Thompson, you got Noah, you got McNarick, you got Obelique Seville. You. I mean, you. You got some guys. So we got. We're gonna have some interesting races. 200. You got Noah. Kenny says. Okay. Hey, we're gonna put some rounds. You have some rounds on you. I'm gonna have some rounds on me. To Bogo isn't quite in shape in the 200, so we're gonna see how that pans out. But boy, that thing. Hey, Julianna and Melissa Jefferson, the thing that they gotta get. They better get interested and see Sid and. And Paulino and Nasser and 400. Come on with it. Come on with you. Come on. Don't play with it now. And I just hope the American can get to get the baton around. Yeah, yeah. We talked about Melissa Jefferson Wooden. I make sure I put her name. Sorry. Melissa jefferson wooden. 5th fastest time ever covered by a woman on the way to a second national championship in the hundred meters. 1065. Dalila Muhammad won the hurdle. She'll retire at the end of the championship. She came out of retirement, ran a few at. Sid was not in this. It was a Trojan sweep. The little Muhammad got one to run the goal. What's the lady name? She got a brother, played with the. The. The Bucks.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You mean the Jaguars.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, he plays with the Bucks. He played with one championship with the Bucks. And. And I think Anna Jones. I played against Anna Jones. Dad is Henry Jones. Played safety for the Bills. Anna Cockrell. That's the name. Anna Cockrell. So it was a. It was a sweep for the. The Lady. The Lady Trojans in the 400 hurdles. But the little Muhammad, she wins. Cockerel was. Got the silver and Jones got the bronze. But they would hype this up. I wanted what you call it because, you know, film could. Gonna go over there and be like, oh, fab. Because you. Oh, because she do. She can't see Sid unless. See it. Got a rock in a shoe. Gabby Thomas takes third place to make the US team in the 200. And a photo finish by 001. The reigning Olympic champ barely. Barely made it. But Melissa Jefferson, she put this way. She put this race away immediately. Immediately. Like, man, I ain't bull driving with y'.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Y', all, y', all, y'. All. Y' all play too much. But I. I. Hey, play with your kids. Play with. And I ain't one of them. Melissa Jefferson, she ran 21:84. Battle 22:13, Gabby Thomas 22:20, Britney Brown, 22:20. Mackenzie Long 22:20, Deja Stevenson, 22:51. Madison White 22:56. Kayla White, 22:71. And jam for the South Carolina Gamecock. Ran 22:88. Blistering times. But boy, Melissa Jefferson, man, I mean, look at it. You got three 2000, 220s. Look how close that was. Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

By a. By a foot, a spike. It looked like.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Richardson misses the world. Sha', Carri, she missed. She, you know, she gotta get right. She got some stuff going on, but. But I think she's the right. She's the reigning 100 meter champ at the world, so we can see she get her reaction time. She got to get better reaction. She's powerful, she's explosive, but you can't spot these women. Ocho, four, two. Not catching. Four, two. These people are too. They. They're too.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They're too fast.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You run 10, 7, you not finna spot somebody that run 10, 7 and run them down. She's giving up too much ground.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, her, her three phases of racing is similar to no allows.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Allows finish crazy because he got 200 meters exactly.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And I mean 200 meter endurance and.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Security the same way at the back end of her race. Strong as hell.

[Chad Ochocinco]

She giving up too much ground though, Ocho. You, you, you can't give up. You can't give up. And that's what usain realized. Us ain't say, man, look here, as long as that, I can just, if I can just stay in striking distance because what. Once I get out of my drive phase and I stand up, he coming to get you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And it, it looks like, it looks like he's catching everybody, but he's just maintaining his speed.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, he just, he's just decelerating. It takes him longer than speed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's all it is. And everybody else is just a celebrity. Oh, that's. That's dope.

[Chad Ochocinco]

That's dope, Ocho. Texas high school track star Cooper Lukenhaus breaks the under 18 world qualified record A championships 16 years old. For context, that would be the equivalent of him running 1975. 4388 a 345 mile or 12,46 5k, which is 3.1 mile. He ran 142,27. He's 16, Ocho. Now check this out. You can't. I, you can't come back to school. What you, what they gonna do with him in high school, Ocho? He had the record at 145. He took three seconds off it. So who gonna beat him in high school? So you line up. He's like, well, well, I guess I get second coach. I coach. You know, my stomach hurting today.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't want to race against him.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You nothing, nothing, nothing. The man, the man 16 running in the world championships. And I ain't talking about as no alternate. I'm talking about he, he got second.142.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's crazy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I knew they was running a time because they went, they went through that line at 49. Rhodesia went through the line at 49. When he ran 140, Kip Keeter had the record 141.1. You know when and when Deja went through the line in 2012 at 49, I'm like, oh my God, he got a chance at this. He really got a chance at this. And then he goes 140.90.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Like, oh my goodness, that's crazy.

[Chad Ochocinco]

And y' all know we're gonna be on this track Day now. So y', all, hey, if y' all looking for that track coverage. Hey, my guy, Ry. Congrats, nephew. 40. What did he run? 46, 89. 4,686. But like he said, 4,686 ain't gonna win you nothing. Not when you got Dos Santos. Not when you got Warhol. Samba. Samba. He's been. He been kind of hit or Ms. Kyra McMaster. I don't know if he can get down to. But Warholm and Dos Santos, you're gonna probably need. You're gonna probably need to be sub. I almost say you're gonna probably need to be sub.46,5. And this. It kind of like. You know what it reminds you of? It's like the big three in tennis. Nadal, Federer.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Jokic Djokovic. Cause you got Dos Santos, reigning world champ. You got the reigning Olympic champ, and you got a. A world champ, Olympic champ and the world record holder. And they're basically all in their prime. They're all. Dos Santos is the youngest. I think Dos Santos is like 25. He's the youngest, but they're all in the absolute right. Looked good today. I like that he didn't panic when the young man took it out because normally Rye would like, okay, let me go track him down. Nah, I see you, I see you, I see you. So he ran. He ran his race. But I'm, I'm excited. So, hey, we will be providing full coverage of the world's mid September nightcap. Will be your trackers track and field. Hey, that's what we do. And, and you know what we try to do? We're going to try to get some of the. Some of the young men and women to come on and talk to us like we did last year. And so I'm, I'm very excited about that. September 13th through September 21st. So Melissa Jefferson, favorite. Been a long time. Oh, it's been a long time since, you know, we swept the women swept it. We looking to sweep it now. They swept it last. Well, I'm talking about the same lady. I don't know about us and I don't know. Ojo man, Kishan Thompson, he explosive. He can get out. Oblique Seville, man in Jamaicans, man, they.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They ticked off. They ticked off Ocho about that Olympic stuff. They. They mad about that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They gonna have to show us.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, we need. The men need to show that we can get the baton around the track. That's what we need to show damn time. You gonna drop the damn baton Ah. Oh. Cho. Indianapolis coach running back Savon Ahmed was taken to the hospital for X rays after suffering what was reported in severe leg injury during practice. Ahmed was taking down this. Was this his same. Was this his teammate Ash? Or were they. Or were they in a joint practice? Amazon reported taken down with a hip drop tackle, a move that was banned from the NFL ahead of the 2024 season, resulting in significant injury. The tackle was made by undrafted free agent Trey Washington, who head coach Shane Steichen acknowledged afterward was shaken up by the incident. Ocho, a teammate.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Live tackling drills. That's. That's unfortunate.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The play occurred during the developmental period where drills involved third string players. Play was live, meaning tackling was permitted in that part of the practice. But you can't hip drop. That's why they can Ocho. I'm surprised it took him this long because Roy Williams. How many people got to. That's how to broke his ass.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's more horse collar. You know, hip hop, the horse color.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But then guys started dropping their way down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. If you take the wrong angle most of the time, the hip drop, the hip drop tackle, it saves you. If you can't catch the person now, you ain't gonna be able to do it. You be able to do it now. So whoever, whoever running most of the time as a running back, they getting all them extra yards because you can't, you can't. You can't drop your weight on it no more.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, I messed up my ankle like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ankle getting pinned. That ankle get pinning up underneath the body.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ain't no you can do all you. But that's 180, 190, 200, whatever the pound weight. Man, all that weight down on you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Ain't nothing you could do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not at all.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Knee, you blow out a knee patella. Break an ankle, break a leg.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Best thing you can do as fast as you can. I know it's kind of hard to do when you feel that. That them putting that weight in, you just let your body go. Your body has to be in a relaxed state when you try to fight it or you. Or you. You stiff. And then it some got to give and you got your body. You got to give your body up right away. As soon as you feel that weight on that. That weight on you like that.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Anthony Richards cuts out Skittles. He says, I need to be more of a pro with my eating Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And it has no bearing and means nothing. What you, what you in, what you consume, what you in your intake. It means nothing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It Does. Stop saying that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Marshawn lynch skittles in the middle of the game. Me, McDonald's before the game. It means nothing. Either you know how to play. You can't. Either you got it or you don't. What you put in your goddamn system is not going to change nothing. Now, now, now you're mentally yourself. Well, maybe if I stop eating this, then this will help with this. No, it's not.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It will.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It won't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

It will.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hold on. Keep that thought.

[Chad Ochocinco]

They can use the bathroom, you think? Well, I'm glad Tom Brady ate whatever he wanted. I don't think he did. Look, we gonna go back and forth. Y' all know Ocho setting his ways. OO believe you can do. But I, I, I, I just believe as an, as a elite athlete, that's what you're, you're trying to do. If you know better, you, you do better. And it's a situation where what you, you, you get out what you put in. Put in optimal food, you get an optimal performance. Now Ocho like to take isolated incidences and, and, and, and, and work with that. I disagree. I streamously disagree. I vehemently disagree.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't. You want to know why injuries. You want to know why injuries are continuing to increase all these soft tissue injuries? Because these goddamn fools keep listening to all these experts and all these damn scientists eating like goddamn rabbits, eating all this green.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Let's not demonetize us tonight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What I did, I curse it.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, yeah. Like 14 times in like 15 words.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My bad. You know, I get real passionate when we talk. When we talk.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, I know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't, but I'm just saying.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Okay, yes, but I do think there's a correlation between, and I'm not saying that, you know, you have to eat all one way, but to eat like you did before. I just don't, I don't, I don't, I don't see it. You put premium gas in your car, right? Why you, why don't you just put regular gas in your new car?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, you don't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You don't. You don't. When you had that Ferrari, when you had that Bugatti, you did not put regular gas in it. Why not? Ocho, tell the people why you did not put regular gas, the lowest grade of gas. And in that car, tell the people why you didn't do it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The comparison.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah, I do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because we play a barbaric sport. You have to eat. You have to eat. You have to eat. Not that healthy. That's why everybody's Falling apart. You're falling apart because you eat like a goddamn infant. Eat food.

[Chad Ochocinco]

No, you have to eat.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got to build up a callus in the body. That's why. Everybody falling apart, everybody getting hurt. Everybody. Nobody touching you. They falling apart like a Barbie doll. When you remember little Barbie doll back in the days. Oh, oh, oh.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Derek Henry healthy Derrick Henry, healthy Derrick Henry. Yes, he does.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He don't. Okay, listen. Derek Henry, healthy. LeBron James eat healthy. Okay? Tom Brady. That's three people. Out of how many? Out of how many? We talk about. We talk about the special greats.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, all time greats.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, so you mean you. So you think if people eat like them, you think they'll be all time? No, no, they're not. You're not. You're not.

[Chad Ochocinco]

You think. You think people eat like Ocho, they gonna go to the NFL?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, there's no.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, okay, okay. I'm just. Just ch.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen. At some point, people go, listen to me. People gonna listen. Everybody.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Every.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Everybody on that healthy kick and everybody keep getting hurt. That's all I'm gonna say. I ain't gonna say nothing else. Y' all keep letting people fool you and selling you a product just to make some damn money. Talk about, oh, it's. It's gonna keep you distant.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, Derek Henry, gluten free. He'll go. Derrick Henry avoids all gluten free, dairy free. He eliminates dairy products from his diet. No fried food. Derek Henry avoids all fried food. No artificial sugar. Intermittent fasting. Henry often practices intermittent fasting, consuming the first half of his meal later in the day. Sample meal plans. Pre practice kale, avocado or banana. Post practice chicken breast, rice, broccoli. Second meal, gluten free pancakes, scrambled eggs. Additional notes. Henry consumes large amounts of protein, typically around 200 grams a day. He uses a personal chef to prepare his meal. He spends around $250,000 per year on his diet and body maintenance. His diet is tailored to individual needs and may be depending on the season, what it look?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, what did Michael Jordan what did Michael Jordan need before games? McDonald's. What did Usain Bo eat before races? McDonald's. Case closed. Case closed.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Probably Jordan might have got 20 years closed. Maybe he got 20 years like Kobe.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He didn't have to get 20 years, obviously, because he's still considered the what.

[Chad Ochocinco]

By who?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, not me. I'm just saying I'm just society in general. I'm not know. I'm. I'm. I'm not a. I'm just, you know. Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, when you come, you know, don't eat all that bull job, man. Y' all don't listen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Matter of fact, don't listen to me. Go out there, eat healthy. Maybe one day you'll be Tom Brady and Derrick Henry and LeBron James and yeah, good, good luck with that. Okay. That's what's going to happen.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The bond between Bijon Robinson and Christian McCaffrey is strong. Bijan has been training, recovering with CMAC all June and July. Hey, Ocho, we know iron sharp is iron. What should we expect from Bijan in Atlanta?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, we should see, we should, we should expect, you know, what we saw last year, but more of obviously high usage of him in the offense. He's really, really good. He's really good. But obviously with him being somewhat of a. What's the word? I'm going to look for the security blanket. I don't want to, I don't want to be the security blanket for Michael Pennock Jr. I want Kyle Pitts to be a security blanket. I want that offense to run through him. Obviously, Bijan is a special, very, very special talent. He will be the feature back obviously in an offense. But you know, we talked to brother Kyle and I'm looking for Kyle to have a bounce back season and get, get back to what he did his rookie year because this is, this is money year. This is money year him for him.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But I agree, I definitely agree. Hey, look, it all comes down to health and a lot of times, Ocho, you start to doubt yourself because when you injured a bunch, you're like, damn, is it just bad luck? You started like, damn, here, Here we go again. It starts to psych. It starts to process or the cycle. Mentally, he just got to stay healthy. Basically the best. His best season was his rookie season. He was healthy and he hasn't really been put. Been able to string together a healthy season since.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You heard, you heard what Saquon said about Bijan, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Oh, yeah. Oh yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

To get that kind of praise from Mr. Barkley. You already know you're special.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Who's your favorite teammate or competitor to train with during the off season?

[Shannon Sharpe]

It was a group of us though. And it wasn't, I mean, it wasn't an actual teammate with the Bengals, but it was, it was me. Andre Johnson, Santana, Antonio Brown. I'm missing somebody. Santana, Andre Johnson, Antonio Brown. I'm missing somebody. It was one more with us. Santana Moss. Yeah. So us four, we, we trained, we trained during the off season together. Now that, that was fun. Yeah, that, that was fun. Those are some, those are some fun days, you see.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Come in and get some of that running. So y' all ain't but that running in. All you do is want to run rocks.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I did my, my to understanding I had all the running that was. That was going to happen in training camp. My running, my conditioning was boxing. Not fighting for real, but just the boxing. The footwork and.

[Chad Ochocinco]

The bag is hitting the missing stuff.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yes, man. Man, the goddamn man, that man three is a long time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That type of condition was. Oh man, it was tremendous because when I had. When we had to report the camp and had to do that conditioning test and they trying to figure out why the hell you still running. Yeah. So the body was already ready, already acclimated.

[Chad Ochocinco]

All right, Ocho. Final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Aaron Jones. Cole Harker is a low known name. Actually, he's not. He won the Olympic gold medal in the 1500 last year. So. Okay, but. Okay, I get what you're saying. But his final lap is almost perfect. He won the 5K this year. He's only seems to be improving. Well, the thing is if you make it that type of race, you gotta. If you know you got a kicker, you got to take the pace out. You got to take the out of it. If you, if you let it come down to a kick race kickers will out kick you. You got to take that zap. You got to take the sting out of those legs. Push the pace for, for, for a number of years that's what the Kenyans did to El Guerroosh. He was the greatest. But they would push the pace and they would take turns pushing the pace. They were zapping. Then he got smart. Run my race. And then I think it was Sydney. He won the. He won the what? The 5K and the 1500. Finally. He's great. He's the greatest 1500 meter. I mean. And there have been some great 1500 meter runners. You know, Nordi Mussolie said auida. You know, Sebastian Cole. They're not him. John Walker. No. Kano Damaraka. He could do it. Until somebody get that 326. Holl at your boy. Holla at your boy, then we can talk. But like I said, for him to take down Nordi Musa Lee's record. Like I said, no, but Cole Harker. Look distance running. I mean, look culture. We, we like the glamour.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We like speed.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Nobody, we like speed. Nobody like to see people around and round and round and round. Nah, bro. Hey, the Best I, I, I, I can give you. I give you 800. I give you that. But mainly 400 down four two Hyundai hurdles. That's what I got for you. No, but Cole Harker, they left for the kick racing. That's what happened. Camera. Norwood Jr. I honestly didn't. Don't think Michael would leave the dot for another team. If he doesn't get money he wants, where would he play next year? Tell Jerry to trade him. You'll see. I tell you what. Tell Jerry don't put that tag on him and see if he'll go play for somebody next year. He absolutely would. And somebody would make it the highest page go 45 million a year. Yes. Yes. No, he's not. Jared. Not going to trade him. Jerry's not going to be foolish enough to trade him. And Jerry's not gonna let him back him into a corner like that either. But oh, yeah, Michael definitely would go play for somebody else. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy said. Hey, fam. Yesterday we celebrated two unforgettable moments. Sterling induction to the hall of Fame and my mom's birthday. And you know, I ordered my bottle. Love y'. All. Doc, thank you very much. We appreciate that so much. Happy birthday, Mom. Hopefully you enjoyed it. Hope y' all had some steaks on the grill, some ribs, whatever, Mac and cheese, baked beans. But this was very joyous celebration for the Sharp household this weekend. One that we will not soon forget. Aaron says Drew Brees is the first ballot next year. Do you think they double up and put Eli in too, or is he going to have to wait a little longer? Drew Brees obviously is the first Battle hall of Famer. I mean, all those 5,000 yard seasons, he's a Super Bowl MVP. He's an offensive player of the year. He had the records until Tom broke them. Yeah, he's a, he's a, he's a. He's a first ballot hall of Famer. Eli situation. Look, I'll let y' all debate that. All I know is the Sharp brothers. Mary Alice Dixon got two boys. Her two sons are the first. So Eli, JJ and tj. Travis and Jason.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Uno Robert dran says Salute. 84 and 88. You feel of the killing. And congrats to your brother. Shannon and Chad, you're up next in the hall of Fame.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are you tripping, bro? I got my own jacket. Can't find that. Can't find that joker.

[Chad Ochocinco]

I think that guy got it. Ocho, you need to tell him you want it back until you get to a video. T Double said. I've watched every night. Captain Club Shay Shay interview from start and jam. I love what you do. Do the analytics, top two in both minutes stats. Thank you, bro. I appreciate that, man. I really appreciate that support. That means a lot. Ocho and I, we try to do the best job we possibly can. Try to get topics that you guys, we think you guys would be interested in and some things that, you know, we can go have a healthy discussion about. Some things we agree on, some things we don't. That's just the way it is. That's. That's just the way television works. We don't script anything. The only thing is that we try to come up with topics that you think you. That we think you'll be interested in and we can have a healthy discussion one way or another, whether we agree or disagree about said topic. That's how we do it. And club Shae Shake. I try to find the most interesting guests and I try to ask questions that I think you, if you were in my chair, I try to ask questions that I think you would ask if you were sitting in my chair. Nothing more, nothing less. You know, people like, oh, you being messy. I'm just trying to. I still haven't tried figured out Ocho, how is messy. I asked Flashy a question now. Brittney Griner started this. Brittney Grinder said she could beat Boogie Cousins. This was before Boogie towards patella. Yeah, yeah. Yes. Brittney Griner said she could be. She could beat Boogie one on one. Asia Wilson, I think she was on the Josh Hart and Jalen Brunson podcast. Did they ask her maybe tongue in cheek, if she played Josh Hart? She said she could beat Josh Hart playing one on one. So I asked Flies yesterday. You know, Asia said. She said Asia to go gave her props. Three time league mvp, a defensive player of the year, finals mvp. You make a case right now, she's a top five WNBA player all time. Got no problem with that. You being messy. She said she can beat an NBA player one on one. Britney Grinder said it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And they mean it too. Huh? They not just believe they could win. That's part of their competitive spirit. That's part of their competitive nature. Realistic.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But they can't. You know why? Because when it becomes physical, this is why they. If that was if, if they could do it, we wouldn't be complaining about transgender competing. There's a difference in testosterone levels. You can't. You're just not. Sha' Carri is beat. Melissa Jefferson can run, but she's not beating the top high school track guy. Those guys running 10. The guy just ran 992. Marcus Gleaton from, from. From here in Georgia. He ran 9, 9, 2. Because it's physical. It's physical. And when it comes to physical men and women, that's why they shouldn't compete. That's why they don't compete. That's why they got women leagues. They got men's leagues. Ta da. It's okay. And I like. I like watching it. But if we being truthful, Ocho, if we being all the way 1,000, everybody knows.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, that's the confidence that they supposed to have. They supposed to think like that. Even though to us realistically, if the.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Game becomes you confident, you think at any point in time in your career, as confident as you are, you could outrun usable.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell no. But I talk some.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Why you're not confident so you don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're not confident like I can. I'm gonna talk trash like I can knowing damn well I can't.

[Chad Ochocinco]

He ain't gonna hear you. Cause he gonna be finished. You're gonna be halfway through. So when you get to the finish.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Line, I'm the wrong one ass when it comes to being confident about doing anything. You know, you but you.

[Chad Ochocinco]

But look I. I get it but like I don't. I'm like. And I thought fly J answered you like hey man, agent a goat but I mean six, eight them guys weighing 230, 240 just from a physical standpoint. Oo, yeah, yeah. No little ninja said, what's up uncle? Oo. Oo, stop capping. Be best man player. You've been ducking Cam forever.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who the hell made Cam this. This great player where he's like the. The pinnacle of all Madden players, man. Cam ain't good, man. Cam can't beat me in nothing, man, let alone Madden can't beat me in tennis either. There's nothing Cam Newton can beat me in nothing. Madden tennis, racquetball, ping pong, nothing.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Stod said. Ocho, you guys think adding Keening Allen would upgrade Chargers wide receiver room?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely. Yes. A viable target. Now I'm not sure where he's going to go because Lad Monkey, he dominates the middle of the field.

[Chad Ochocinco]

Hey, put Keenan on the other side. So we got two slot guys. One of. Hey, both can win consistently. Both can win. And I think. I think Keenan wanted to be back in la. His family's here. I like it. I like. I like this move Earl to the rain. Said I was mostly Disturbed over Sterling not being the last speaker first two brothers. He wasn't disturbed. Hell, he want. Actually, he wanted to be first.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Get it out the way, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco]

Yeah. Bad. Yeah. Yeah. He, like I said, he didn't. He didn't write a speech. I had no idea he was going to. Knowing him, I kind of had the direct kind of, you know, felt the direction that he was going to kind of go in. I knew he wasn't. He wasn't going to be as long as I was because he felt Shannon had already covered that. You know, if you notice, he spent a whole lot of time talking about Granny. He didn't spend a whole lot of time talking about Papa. Talked about Libby, talked about my mom, how you appreciate her giving him a name that stood out. Talked about why he did certain things and X, Y and Z. But he's different. Once you get him to open up, you can't get him to shut up. But the hard part is getting him to open up because he's very guarded, very mayhem. Matthew, reaction to Brock Lesnar returning you glad he returning me? Yeah, I think he. Hold on. They had something go. They had something tonight, right? Because I saw John Cena. There was an ending. They had SummerSlam okay. Yeah. I mean look, he's a. He's a very talented guy. I mean, All American wrestler did ufc. He can wrestle. Wwe. Why not? I like it. I just don't like what you call him being. I don't like John Cena being healed. Yeah, I don't like John. Tina Beer to heal. But hey, anybody can turn heel. John can do it. This is the last, last trip around the sun. Wwe. Why not? Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I am your favorite unc, Shannon Sharp, my partner and co host, Liberty City's own Bingo's Ring of Fame honoree, Madden Adjuster Pro Bowler All Pro. That's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. Tell family, friends and loved ones to do likewise and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Like to thank each and every one of you from the Nightcap family. Thank you for your support and your continued support because you we get to do what we do. Thank you again. Make sure you check out Shay by laportier. We have a new drop limited edition release to honor my brother Sterling going into the Pro Football hall of Fame. And we're the first brothers and in the Pro Football hall of Fame it's just not a bottle, it's a tribute and once it's gone, it's gone. So please grab yours while supplies last. Please go follow my media company page on all of its platforms. Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out, supplies are limited and once they're gone, they're gone. That link is pinned into the chat. Thank you guys for joining us again. Thank you guys. That that commented that like the photos of my brother and I and all the things that were going on hall of Fame weekend, it was a very, very special occasion and we got, we got some stuff. Jordan was there and shot a lot of stuff behind the scenes. So we're gonna be getting that up to you in the incoming days. But thank you guys for your support. It's been amazing and thanks to you. You made what we do all worthwhile doing it. I'm unk he's ocho. We'll back tomorrow at the same time. See you manana. Peace.

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