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Shannon Sharpe
Something that you can strive for that.
Chad Johnson
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Chad Johnson
Cam Newton started a firestorm when he didn't have Jalen Hurts in his top 10 quarterbacks in the league. Jalen Hurts is a great quarterback, but if we're talking about what they bring to the table, it's hard to judge what Jalen do. When you're throwing to a guy like A.J. brown, Devonte Smith, you have a tight end skill set. You have a dominant defense and the best running back in the game. Jalen Hurts does not have to play elite for the Eagles to win. He has to play good, but that doesn't have. But he doesn't have to play elite. We're just asking you not to win the game. We're just asking you not to lose it. Okay. To. This is what to had to say.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
You would be judging him as if all that wasn't playing well. This is a Skip Bayless type of a statement with dreads. Don't be mad at Jalen because he's making great decisions. Maybe had you made the decision to jump on that ball, just maybe y' all will say anything to go viral. This isn't it, Cam.
Shannon Sharpe
That's touchy. It's touchy. But listen, as a quarterback, you. You have to respect what Cam is saying. As a receiver, I understand Jalen's side. I understand what Nick Sirianni asked from Jalen Hurts. I understand that they are a team where it's not aesthetically pleasing from an offensive standpoint of throwing the ball 2 million times a game. I get that. Why do you think A.J. brown was upset some games? Why do you think A.J. brown takes that book and reads a book on the sidelines some days in some games. What? Some games, he goes off some game. Devonte Smith goes off. Saquon Barkley does what he needs to do. Jalen Hurts does exactly what what the Philadelphia Eagles ask of him when it comes to running that offense. And he does it to perfection, which is why they have them big ass goddamn rings. That's it. It's simple. The game of football is not complicated. Understand your personnel, understand your personnel strengths and your personnel's weaknesses. Use it to your advantage and play simple football. It's not complicated, it's not hard. And they do exactly what they're supposed to do. Play within the confines of what we do. Well, it ain't throwing the ball 100 times a game. It's throwing it when you have to, it's running it when you need to. Simple.
Chad Johnson
It really is. I look at it like what is required of me to win. Now I'm not fitting to punish this guy, right. Because he's throwing the great replete receivers. Because Troy threw to a great receiver. Terry Bradshaw threw the great receivers. Joe Montana through two great receivers. There are a lot of great quarterbacks that's in the hall of Fame that through the great receivers.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson
So I'm not fitting to hold that against him. Troy Aikman's in the hall of Fame and he just got the all time leading rush in his backfield. So do we hold that against him? Did we hold that mammoth offensive line man, many believe he had the greatest offensive line in history. We don't hold that against him.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson
At the end of the day, you do what is asked. What is required of you in order to win the game.
Shannon Sharpe
That's it. And he does it. He does.
Chad Johnson
I'm sure. Jaylen Herz, Jalen hurts in college played prepared him for the NFL because playing for Nick Saban, you're going to play to win the game. Now it might require you to throw it 35 times.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes sir.
Chad Johnson
More times than not you're going to run it 40 times and you're going to play outstanding defense. So he was prepared for this. I watched him in Oklahoma and I watched him throw the ball. He can. Yeah but that's not what required and I don't believe, I don't know if that's if he asked him to throw the ball. I'm not saying that he couldn't.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he can.
Chad Johnson
I don't know if that's conducive for them to win. Why would I go get Saquon Barkley to all of a sudden now unleash Jaylen Herz throwing the ball 35, 40 times a game like he's you know they running and running. Shoot. That makes no sense.
Shannon Sharpe
It's not what they do. That's not even their off. That's not even the scheme of their offense. That's not what it is.
Chad Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
Not even what they do. It's it's balance. Hell, the offense have is damn near is damn near like it was in the 2000s. Yeah, that's basically what it is. Outside of everybody else. Everybody else throwing it, throwing it, throwing it, throwing it, throwing it, throwing it. Man, listen what works for you. Stay within the realm of what works for you. Not trying to please everyone else.
Chad Johnson
I'm trying to win. Damn. Because there are a lot of people. Oh babe, look at our office. Look at our offense and what that.
Shannon Sharpe
Offense get you home, home and home in January.
Chad Johnson
Thank you. Now, Jalen Hurts have been played. Look, they went to the super bowl, they lost, they got kicked, bounced out early. Next year, the next year they go back and win. So it seems like this formula that Eagles have is working quite well.
Shannon Sharpe
Funny. He's been, he's been, he's been, listen, not top five, but he been to the super bowl two years in a row, losing one and winning the next one. And there, There's a good chance what they've gotten better, added some additions with the draft and the off season and there's a chance they could go back again. There's a chance they could go back again, barring injury.
Chad Johnson
I, I think the thing is, and I don't want to speak for Cam, but I think Cam is looking at it like so, what would Patrick Mahomes do in that offense? What would Joe Burrow do in that offense? What would Lamar Jackson do in that offense? He's looking at other guys and implementing them and says, well, if I took Jalen Hurts and I put him in Kansas City, you think they going to Autumn Suos and doing all that well?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Another thing, another thing for Cam. If you're hypothetically putting different players, putting Joe Burrow on the Eagles. Are you putting Patrick Mahomes on Eagles? Then the offense itself changes drastically to fit with those players and those quarterbacks do well.
Chad Johnson
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
That it's, it'd be completely different.
Chad Johnson
I'm sure Joe Burrow would like to have that offensive line. I'm sure Patrick Mahal would like to have that offensive line.
Shannon Sharpe
Listen.
Chad Johnson
Hey. Because if they had those offensive line, they'd be billionaire players because they, they would act literally play in 20 plus years. And you see what the quarterbacks are making now. They would literally lead the NFL having earned a billion dollar right in earnings. Look, Jayla Hurst is what he is.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
I don't know. I don't know if he's. I don't think I would. He's five. If you say he's top five, he's five.
Shannon Sharpe
Five. Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Because I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I wouldn't take it. There are certain guys I wouldn't take him over.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson
But I don't. I'm not getting him out of top five.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
I mean the top. Top ten.
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely. Absolutely. I like it. But. But again, you know, Cam, his preference.
Chad Johnson
Ocho is what you like.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Cam.
Chad Johnson
Cam, you like. You. You like, you like Cybertrucks. I like Range Rovers. Somebody else like an old school.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson
Somebody likes a Mercedes Somebody likes BMW, somebody likes Rose, somebody like, you know, the Bentleys. It's, it's, it's, it's preference.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
And, and maybe Jaylen Herz isn't as aesthetically pleasing to the eye because he's not going to throw for 400 yards. He's not going to have games, you know, like that. He's just going to win. He'll throw for 200. He'll throw. He'll do what is required in order to win the game.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Yeah.
Chad Johnson
And early in the year, I just knew that he was going to have to do more. And when they needed him to do more come playoff time in the super bowl, he did that because Kansas City shut down Saquon. He had to do it with his legs and he had to throw the ball and he did that.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that, that goes to say. And obviously what, what Cam said is, is I listen to him. I listen to what Cam says because he's a quarterback. He played the game.
Chad Johnson
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
Now, I don't have to agree with what you're saying, which in this case, I, I don't. I'm not sure how you come up with the conclusion on why you feel Jaylen Hurst is not in your top five, but I gave you my reason why I think he is. And a lot of people aren't going to agree with Cam for, for, for whatever reason, but I don't either, you know, but again, he played the position. He might view it from a different lens than everybody else. What lens that is, I'm not sure. But James is definitely top five and he's at five.
Chad Johnson
But look at the receivers that Peyton had. Nobody held that against him. He had Reggie Marvin.
Shannon Sharpe
Marvin.
Chad Johnson
Brandon Stokely. He had Dallas Clark. Gonzalez. He had Dallas Clark. He had Marshall Falk. He had Eden James. Nobody held that against him. Look at what Kurt Warner had. He had other Kira Keem. He had Tori Holt. He had Isaac Bruce. He had Marshall Falk.
Shannon Sharpe
Ricky Pro. Oza Keem, Ricky Pro.
Chad Johnson
I don't know if he had. I think. Didn't they draft Stephen Jackson? I think he had Stephen. Maybe, maybe he wasn't there with Steven Jackson.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, man.
Chad Johnson
First of all, everybody, in order for you to win, you gotta have great players. You gotta have talented players.
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Chad Johnson
It's a different, it's. It's a different time now, Ocho. It really, it's just really that simple. It is. Yeah. You see the money these guys making and look, Cam, I. This is what Cam is saying. I'd have won Super Bowls if I'd have been in a system like that, but they asked me and they required me to do much more. That's what basically in a nutshell, that's what he's saying. I didn't have those receivers and I didn't have a running game like that.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson
And my offensive line damn sure wasn't that good. We had a good defense, but it wasn't that.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson
I was required to do what they asked Mahomes, what they asked Burrow, what they asked some of these other quarterbacks. They don't ask Jalen to do that. I don't know what you want.
Shannon Sharpe
Right. All right. That's a good way to look at it. It's a good way to put it. It's a good way to put it.
Chad Johnson
But two and I hate doing but.
Shannon Sharpe
I think me different situations.
Chad Johnson
I'm sitting back Ocho watch Cam's career right from start to finish. I think that's what he's saying me look at what I was asked to do.
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
Chad Johnson
Look at what he's asked to do. Look at the players that he had surrounding him. Look at what I had surrounding me.
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
Chad Johnson
We can do this basically with everybody. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. That's a good one. You definitely can.
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Keenan Allen remains unsigned. Stop playing Pro Bowler Finished last year with the Bears. 70 receptions, 744 yards, seven touchdowns. With Mike Williams sudden retirement from the charges Ocho would you like to see Keenan back with the Chargers?
Shannon Sharpe
I listen it would be nice. It would be really nice but the, the. The difficult part about it is Keelan at times like he plays in the slot but lad McConkey is taking out taking that position. Lad matter of fact it's not. His name is Ladarius. Ladarius McConkey has taken that, that that slot spot. Now there are so many other teams that can use Keenan Allen's. Keenan Allen's service and his offensive prowess of being able to get open and create Separation, intermediate short routes and. And moving the chains down the field. There's really no reason with camp right around the corner, if I'm not mistaken, two. Two days from now, he should be. Roster. There are a lot of veterans that are out there. If you look at the names, some big names that would be great for camp and be a great veteran presence in locker rooms around the NFL. I think they're going to get signed. You know what happens, obviously, in camp, people pull stuff, people get hurt, you know, God willing. No, no serious injuries. And I think most of the veterans, some of the big names that we're used to seeing, they're gonna. They're gonna be. They're gonna be in a roster. They're going to be a roster. I just want to hope and make sure that they're ready to go in their training when that. That time. That time presents itself.
Chad Johnson
What. How much is he asking?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, money wise?
Chad Johnson
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
You got to be fair. You gotta. You gotta be fair. I'm sure knowing him, he's made. He's made his money.
Chad Johnson
You homeless? Let me ask you a question, Ocho. You homeless?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
You hungry?
Shannon Sharpe
Talk to me.
Chad Johnson
You gotta. You gotta. You got a bachelor's degree and you got a master's degree, but the jobs that you're qualified for aren't offering that.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, that's a good one. Elbow.
Chad Johnson
So that's the question it comes down to now.
Shannon Sharpe
It comes down to how much do I love the game? How much do I really want to play?
Chad Johnson
Thank you.
Shannon Sharpe
Because I've already. Already made the bulk of my money. He. He done made the bulk of his money already. I got my nice little nest egg. Do I really want to get out there and do this right? Do I want to.
Chad Johnson
Wait, no, no, no, no, no. That's not the question. The question is, do I want to do this for this amount of money?
Shannon Sharpe
I with you when you're right. I'm with you when you're right. I ain't want to say it like that, but you took the words right out of my mouth.
Chad Johnson
Oh, so I want to work, right, but I don't want to work for that. I'm just telling you that's how people think. Because a lot of times people like, yeah, I want a job, right? Oh, but fast food, that's beneath me. Ocho shouldn't mean not if you hungry, not if you try to. Not if you're trying to feed somebody other than yourself. Hell, even if you try to just feed yourself. Not if you need. Not if you got to pay Rent?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Yeah.
Chad Johnson
You gotta do what you gotta do.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, man. Most definitely. Most definitely, man.
Chad Johnson
I ain't paying for that little bit of money.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, well, hey, so you rather go with nothing?
Chad Johnson
Going home then? Hey, he got a nice family. I've seen him on social media with his wife and his kids. Going home with them.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Nah, nah, he. He coming. He coming. He coming. He coming.
Chad Johnson
Oh, Joe. WNBA players warmed up in T shirts ahead of the All Star Game last night. The T shirts featuring the words, pay us what you owe us. After the. After the All Star Game, when the fisha Fee Collier won the MVP trophy, the crowd chanted, pay them. Pay them. Pay them. Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
What you thinking?
Shannon Sharpe
Listen. Pay it. Paying what they owe. Now, listen, I keep hearing rumblings. I don't know enough about this to get in depth with it and talk about it like I should, but I understand they get a very small percentage of the revenue that they do bring in.
Chad Johnson
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
Stay. Stay with me now. Chat, y'. All.
Chad Johnson
I'm listening. I'm listening.
Shannon Sharpe
They make a very small percentage of the revenue that they do bring in. Pay them what you owe them. A little bit more than what they're already making based on the revenue that they bring in.
Chad Johnson
Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, it's. It's not rocket science. It's not complicated. NFL players. I'm not sure what percentage of NFL revenue they make that they bring.
Chad Johnson
They get 48% of.
Shannon Sharpe
48%, if I'm not mistaken. I might have saw something that said NBA players get 9% of NBA revenue. WNBA.
Chad Johnson
No, that's. The WNBA get 9% of the revenue.
Shannon Sharpe
Let's get that up a little bit more. That's all. That's all. The game. The game for them, for the women is continuing to grow. A lot of people make a fuss. Oh, don't nobody watch this, dad. Ain't nobody watching them. Oh, people are watching. They're filling up the stands. Every goddamn game I go to, I see the lines. Hell, I've been to the games. So somebody lying, Twitter, lying to me because every. Every time I turn on a game or look at a game, they. The stadium is full. Everyone.
Chad Johnson
Pay us what you owe. That's a slippery slope.
Shannon Sharpe
Why the way. Why?
Chad Johnson
Because I. From everything that I've read, the WNBA has never turned a profit. So if I never turned a profit. Oo. So let me get this right. I'm losing money, but you want to raise, right? Something adding up.
Shannon Sharpe
Wait a minute. If you never turned a profit. WNBA been around how long? How many years now?
Chad Johnson
96, I think the year year they.
Shannon Sharpe
Started and they never, they've never turned a profit, but it still seems to be running just well and fine and continuing to grow.
Chad Johnson
Some somebody, I mean look, there's some saying that the NBA is supplementing. Some people say they're not supplementing. But the one thing that's, that's not being refuted is that they're not making the money where they could. Like. Oh, the reason why the salaries for the. Think about it, Ocho, right. J.J. watt made $112 million right. In his career.
Shannon Sharpe
Career, right.
Chad Johnson
His brother just got 123 million dollar contract.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson
For three years. Because why the NFL revenue is increasing exponentially.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, I like that. But listen, if WNBA been around since 96, I'm not good at math, so I'm not going to say how many years it's been at some point in that time, whether it turns a profit or not, that profit has still increasingly got better and better and better. So if you only make 9% of the profit and what revenue that you bring in right now, there's nothing wrong with making a little bit more. Just a little bit more. Don't give it too much.
Chad Johnson
How much? Oh, because I think, look, I don't.
Shannon Sharpe
Think that's not my area expertise that would be, that would be amongst them to figure out.
Chad Johnson
Right.
Shannon Sharpe
But I'm just saying just a little bit more.
Chad Johnson
A lot of times, Ocho, when you feel you've been underpaid for the length of time that you've been underpaid, right. You don't feel that's enough. You don't feel they can pay you enough. I can't back pay you for 30 years.
Shannon Sharpe
I like that.
Chad Johnson
Right. Jada Bear. Hello?
Shannon Sharpe
Hold on.
Chad Johnson
The WNBA players get 9.3% of the league revenue. NBA, NHL, NFL players get 50 of the revenue. The WNBA did lose $40 million in 2024, but a large part was that was due to they are currently signed to which 2026 goes from roughly 45 million to 200 million annually. This will result in the essence, result in essence the league making money overnight and losing 40 million to a net gain of 115 just alone in TV deals. Even if game tickets sold were to stop growing the merch, stop selling it will still be in the green. So with that being said, hold on.
Shannon Sharpe
Lost 40 million?
Chad Johnson
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
Lost?
Chad Johnson
Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
You sure you read that right? You said lost.
Chad Johnson
They lost 40 million last year. Yes, but. But in 26 they're gonna go from getting 45 million annually for TV to 200 million annually.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, there we go. Now we talking. Now we talking business. But pay us what you owe.
Chad Johnson
But still, no, I'm gonna pay you moving forward. Right. I'm not trying to make up a back pay.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. Okay, well, okay, don't pay us what you owe. Pay us moving forward. But it better be looking better than that 99.8% that we are getting. Okay?
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And it's. Listen, the game is growing tremendously. More eyes, more visibility. Kids are watching. Listen, what Caitlin Clark has been able to do, along with the others, that laid the foundation, that lay the footprint, huh? The Asia Wilsons, you know, the Angel Reese's. Like. Like, I. I like where it's going. Paige Bucker. I mean, come on, man.
Chad Johnson
Beckers.
Shannon Sharpe
Beckers. Yeah, my bad. After my book, I was thinking about. I was thinking about jam. Yeah. So I was thinking about Smuckers. My bad, my bad.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. But.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I. I think the thing is. I think. Let's see, the nine, you got at least. I mean, at least you got to get the 20 at the bare damn minimum, right?
Shannon Sharpe
You say. Listen, you said 20. I was. I was gonna say 19.
Chad Johnson
No, but I'm saying. Oh. I'm saying that's at the bare minimum.
Shannon Sharpe
Right? You're right. You're right. I like it. Shoot.
Chad Johnson
Hey, listen, look, Ocho, look, you and I both know they're not about to get the 50. They're not about to get the 50. That. The.
Shannon Sharpe
That's. That's. That's. That's. That's not.
Chad Johnson
They're not gonna get 50.
Shannon Sharpe
No.
Chad Johnson
So maybe. Hey, can we triple it? Can we get to. Can we get to 27, 28%?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, do. Right. Shoot. They need to leave. They need to. Let me. Let me. Let me go in there. I get what. I get. I get. You with your own. I get. I get what you owe. Put me in that goddamn room. But who would I have to talk to if it comes down to.
Chad Johnson
To the owners.
Shannon Sharpe
The owners.
Chad Johnson
Oh, well, I mean, what's. What's the lady. That's the. The commissioner. What's the lady. Kathy Engelberg. Engelhardt. Engelbert.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
I mean, so basically, you work with the commissioners and their lawyer.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
And the WNBA lawyers. And you have the. The wnba Pa. And their lawyers. And they're like, okay, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. All right. Walking out. Walking in with my nice suit. How you doing?
Chad Johnson
They. Yeah, I. I think. Look, so you're increasing. You. You're increasing basically 4%, 4 and a half percent. Right. So you're going up that, I mean, you think about you going from four and a half. So you, four times, four and a half times the money, you're going from 45 million annually to 200 million annually. And they're looking to bring on a couple other teams, right?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, we need a Miami team. Maybe I could be the owner of the Miami team.
Chad Johnson
They, they had a Miami team. First of all, y' all barely support the Heat.
Shannon Sharpe
Stop, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on now. Don't, don't, don't.
Chad Johnson
And they had a good player. Ruth Riley. She used to, she was one of the better players in the wnba. She used to go to this boutique spin studio. So, but nah, no, not Miami. Yeah, too much going on.
Shannon Sharpe
What you mean? But we, man, you know, what.
Chad Johnson
Y', all, How y' all doing with the Marlins?
Shannon Sharpe
The Marlins.
Chad Johnson
How y' all do with the Heat? You know, y' all come to the game at halftime at the heats, right?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but hold on, listen to me, listen to me real quick. See, it's one thing, this is what, this is what I love about Miami. Okay, let's talk about the women. We talk about the wnba. One thing about women is women show up on time. One thing about women. Women support each other.
Chad Johnson
You know why? We know they don't. That's why we're in the situation that we're in. Because if women supported each other, it'd be more. That's the problem.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, okay.
Chad Johnson
The women ain't supporting the women in the wnba.
Shannon Sharpe
Right. I, I, I see. Yeah, okay, you're right, you're right. I, I just think for some reason, if I was to start a WNB franchise, that thing would be lit, boy, I, I, I have. It's not American Airlines arena no more. What is it?
Chad Johnson
Hell, don't start me the line there. You live in Miami.
Shannon Sharpe
I, I forgot the name of the arena. It was fta. I mean, listen, all them scam, they, they be scamming the names and they keep changing, so I don't know.
Chad Johnson
But yeah, I want, Look, I, I think can we get, can we get the salary, can we get the top salaries to at least a million dollars a year?
Shannon Sharpe
OO, oo, now we talking. Can we get before juju get here? Can we get it like that?
Chad Johnson
Can we get at least, can we get, I mean, I think the highest you can make is what? 245? 250.
Shannon Sharpe
No, make it. Nah, make it 500, man. Make it 500. Hey, them young ladies. 80 million young ladies, boy, when they be 17 million. Who makes 17?
Chad Johnson
Oh, so now you talk about 3 million. You have some 3 million dollar. Some 3 million dollar ladies.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah. And Asia Wilson, she should be making.
Chad Johnson
3 million a year. I was hoping that like triple it, go to 27, 28. I don't think they going to 40, Ash. I don't think they gonna even get to 30. The Internet math only did it to 40%. I think realistically, 20. I think what you. I think 20, 25. And maybe go incrementally from there from that point on.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Hey, hey, man, I'm.
Chad Johnson
That's.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, that's a good idea, man. Now that I think about it, what I was sitting here pondering and reflecting on, like, me. Me and you, we can go half on a WNBA franchise in Miami.
Chad Johnson
Hey, did you see the Valkyries? They just got. They just got valued at 500 million.
Shannon Sharpe
Who?
Chad Johnson
The Valkyrie. They just came into existence last year. 500 million. The Liberty. 450.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson
No, Shannon Ocho ain't gonna do nothing.
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, listen, I'm. Let me. Let me call. I'm gonna call Jeff tomorrow. I'm gonna set up a call with Jeff. I'm gonna set up a call with Jeff.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, those franchises are becoming very. I mean, you see Eli. Eli, the back down, you know, he was supposed to become a solid partner, but, you know, 1% partner with the. With the. The Giants.
Shannon Sharpe
Who. Which he died.
Chad Johnson
Eli Manning.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay. He said no, bro.
Chad Johnson
You see the valuation of these teams.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Chad Johnson
So even. Even if you talking 1%. Oh, so you're talking hundreds of millions.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Johnson
Ain't a whole lot of people just sitting on 100 million can go get their hands on $100 million.
Shannon Sharpe
O Joe, I know somebody.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I know somebody too.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
It just ain't nobody. Ain't nobody I'm really close to. I know some people, too. It just ain't nobody I'm close to. Yeah, I know some people. Hey, I know a few people.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, that was a good one. That was a good one.
Chad Johnson
I don't think people really. Hey, I mean, when you could just go, hey, go touch. I mean, you can go touch it. Yeah, man, look here. Nah, but I. Look, I would like to see them at least. At bare. At the absolute bare minimum.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
It goes to double, which would be 18 and a half to 19%. I would like it to be somewhere, you know, being realistic. I like to be realistic. I be pie in the sky and say, yeah, let it be like the NFL or NBA and so on and so on, but that's not gonna happen up out the top, off the rip. So if we can get that thing somewhere between 20 and 25%.
Shannon Sharpe
I like it. Make it, make it 24 and, and.
Chad Johnson
And go out and support them.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, people.
Chad Johnson
I'd support them people.
Shannon Sharpe
I know y' all listening. And whatever, whatever city you in, make sure you go out there, you support. You support the young ladies. Man, these ladies shoot goddamn game dope as hell. Every time I think about that goddamn experience at the Atlanta Dream Game in Atlanta, man. Jesus Christ, stop playing.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, wait.
Chad Johnson
$2 million a year. I feel happy.
Shannon Sharpe
You heard me, huh? Houston got a team.
Chad Johnson
They had a team to comet. They won the first four NBA titles, so no more. But I think that. Aren't they trying to come get. Get another team? And Detroit, because Detroit had the shock. Detroit won the championship when Cheryl Ford.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson
Who was Carl Malone's daughter. She was. She was. They won the title.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
I don't think Cleveland's ever. Who else had a. Miami had a team. Houston had a team. Detroit had a team. I'm trying to think. Does anybody else. Sacramento used to have a team. They had the Monarchs, Tisha Penichero, the Miami Soul. Okay. Charlotte. Charlotte.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, the.
Chad Johnson
Right. So Cleveland did have a. Oh, wow. Okay. I think Portland's gonna keep the same name, aren't they? Is it because you said Cleveland, Detroit, what's the other one? Portland? No, Philly. Philly. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Just Josh Harris, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I, I think. Hey, I'm hoping. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. 20, 25.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I like it.
Chad Johnson
That way we can have some, Some. Some. Some women making million.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
$2 million. Marcus Smart agreed to a contract buyout with the Wizards and plans to sign a two year, $11 million deal with the Lakers after clearing waivers. The 31 year old, who just played 54 combined games over the last two seasons due to injuries, bring a strong defensive presence to the Lakers. According to Shums, Luka personally reached out to Smart, making it clear he wanted him on the team. Ocho with the defensive. The 2022 Defensive Player of the year. What does this do for the Lakers?
Shannon Sharpe
It doesn't do much. On. As good as Marcus Smart is, I don't think their problem. Obviously having a defensive presence like him is awesome, but on the off the end, they still need a big. That's the problem. They need a big. Now, I know I'm. I know I'm not. I'm not Doris Burke when it comes. Or George Sedano when it comes. To talking or Tim Leger when it comes to talking basketball. But I've been watching long enough to know that you need a goddamn big when you get to the goddamn playoffs to be able to compete for them specifically. That's what they need. Margaret Smart, great addition. But what are we doing here? Are you sure you're trying to do what's necessary to win this season? Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe. Maybe Chat. Do y' all see something I don't see with the Lakers? That signing Marcus Smart as good as what?
Chad Johnson
Are we getting the old market smart or old market smart?
Shannon Sharpe
That's a good one. I like that. I like where you went.
Chad Johnson
One, I added V and the other. And I left the V off.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson
You should have a very highly motivated DeAndre Ayton because he got a one year deal. Marcus Smart signed a one and a one. So he should be motivated.
Shannon Sharpe
DeAndre Aiden Portland Trailblazer. DeAndre Aiden Phoenix. Sun. Phoenix son. DeAndre Aiden.
Chad Johnson
Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
I think that's. That's. That's my Bahamian brethren, if I'm not mistaken.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn. I told it. How tall is DeAndre? What?
Chad Johnson
Seven.
Shannon Sharpe
Seven what?
Chad Johnson
Seven foot, boy.
Shannon Sharpe
He's seven foot.
Chad Johnson
Yep.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, okay, okay, okay. Legacy. Okay. You got a little, little presence down there. He not as bad as the Ryan. What's the Ryan? Dude you say you don't like. Who? For the Lakers. The one you say was just tall for nothing.
Chad Johnson
Oh man, you talking about Lynn? Alex Lynn?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. He not. He not. I thought you said Alex Lynn was 7 foot.
Chad Johnson
I didn't know sardness reached that high.
Shannon Sharpe
So DeAndre. DeAndre Ayton is a island levels of.
Chad Johnson
He better than Lynn. He's a double, double guy. He'll get you 14 and 10.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Chad Johnson
Your law presence, all right.
Shannon Sharpe
You give you 14, 10.
Chad Johnson
Get.
Shannon Sharpe
Give you double digit numbers.
Chad Johnson
Should be highly, highly motivated.
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
Chad Johnson
He sees the money that Chet Hungrybot got. He sees the money that they're paying.
Shannon Sharpe
Bless you.
Chad Johnson
Excuse me. He sees the money that they just gave Miles Turner. Huh? Bro, you younger than Miles Turner.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Hey, you go out there and play, you could end up. You could end up getting you a five year 170 million dollar deal. Five years.
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Shannon Sharpe
Bro, it's not too late, man.
Chad Johnson
Deandre Ayton can't be no more than 26, 27.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, he done been in the league for a little minute now.
Chad Johnson
Deandre Ayton is 26 years old. 20. About to turn 27. He turned 27. So he's 27.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, okay, okay. Okay. Yeah. The motivation is getting to that bag. Especially if you sign them one year, go out there and have a hell of a season this year.
Chad Johnson
Exactly.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Chad Johnson
Exactly.
Shannon Sharpe
I got you gotta lock in and focus.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, we gotta talk about something that you gonna like this. There's a guy named Prito Hunter who buys an abandoned storage unit. Hey, found two of your old. He got two of your old storage units. Ocho, take a look at this.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
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Storage Unit Finder
This is red bottoms, baby. Christian Lubutins. Red bottoms. Kind of ugly, but beautiful condition.
Shannon Sharpe
Damn, what is this?
Storage Unit Finder
John Varvatos.
Shannon Sharpe
We got them right there.
Storage Unit Finder
What else we got?
Chad Johnson
Gucci. Beautiful.
Storage Unit Finder
Nice little Gucci boots right there. This unit might be better than the other one. No, it's already looking better than the other one. I'm loving this. Guys, look at this. Red bottoms. Christian Lubu tins. You guys see them right there? Red bottoms.
Shannon Sharpe
Another pair.
Storage Unit Finder
Oh, my Lordy Lord. Guys, guys, guys. Holy. Oh, my God.
Chad Johnson
Chad Johnson.
Shannon Sharpe
Thank you.
Chad Johnson
Thank you.
Storage Unit Finder
Oh, my God.
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Storage Unit Finder
Soccer please. Guys, look at these soccer cleats. These are made out of kangaroo leather for sure. Guys, these are probably worn in the actual Ocho sink or signed by someone there. You guys see it? Ronaldinho. I'm pretty sure. You think that's Ronaldinho? Yo, could this be Ronaldinho.
Chad Johnson
Signed?
Storage Unit Finder
Holy crap. Guys, these are all signatures by probably the whole team right there. Holy crap.
Shannon Sharpe
Look at that. He's so hype.
Chad Johnson
Oh, Joe.
Shannon Sharpe
What?
Chad Johnson
How you get that?
Shannon Sharpe
That's my old storage from 2000. 2000.
Chad Johnson
Is that in Miami or in Cincinnati?
Shannon Sharpe
But that's down in Miami. All the way down on the other end. Long, long. How do you get rid of stuff that you don't want anymore? And that. That was the best way to do it because I'm not hoarding none of that stuff. That's from like 2004, 2005. I don't. Which. I don't dress like that. That's that 20. 20. 20 year old, late early 30s. Chad, I'm about to be 50. I ain't going away. No donated Ain't don donate. Who do I Look like. Do I look like. Do I look like the person that gonna take all that stuff and take it.
Chad Johnson
You left Chris Henry jersey in there?
Shannon Sharpe
No, that's. That's one that's signed by all my. All my teammates. My. My real Chris Henry jersey, the one that he wore that sign is here. Can you hear me?
Chad Johnson
I hear you now.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. My Chris Henry jersey is here. That's. That's a Chris Henry jersey signed by all my teammates that. That play with. Hell, I got all. I got all them fools on goddamn group chat.
Chad Johnson
So you ain't gonna. You ain't gonna get it back.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't want none of that. I've start here. This is how I live my life, right? Stay with me real quick, chat. Y' all stay with me real quick. We have. I live life in two parts. Like a stage play. Act one. Football, clothes, fashion, all that. All that fun stuff. Them days is long gone, huh?
Chad Johnson
I feel you.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm talking about long gone. Step two, act two. New life, new house, new beginnings. Transition from all that old and the new stuff. I'm not taking nothing from the past into act two. None of it. So what's the best way to get rid of it, man? Take. Be happy.
Chad Johnson
I don't like nobody digging through my stuff, though.
Shannon Sharpe
It ain't my stuff.
Chad Johnson
No, it ain't no more. Your stuff no more.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I ain't. I. I don't want it. That's why I love.
Chad Johnson
Man, what if they found some. What if they found some skid mark draws up in there?
Shannon Sharpe
Why would I have skid mark draws? I use dude wipes. Yeah, I use. I use do. And I got. I got a bidet. A bidet? Did I say that right? A bidet.
Chad Johnson
Close enough, huh? But they. But.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, okay, my bad, my bad. No, no, but. But on. On a serious note, it was so much stuff. It's just. It couldn't go with me. Not where I'm trying to go. I can't bring that. No, I. I can't bring it.
Chad Johnson
I feel you.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. I can't. I couldn't. I'm. I'm glad Young Bull is happy, man. You know, I'm all about giving. I'm.
Chad Johnson
I'm.
Shannon Sharpe
I stay giving.
Chad Johnson
I won't get nothing. I ain't got no. I don't know. I ain't got no store unit. I got all my stuff here.
Shannon Sharpe
See? I can't. I don't. I. I don't see how you do it. I don't see how you do that. I don't See how you do it. I can't.
Chad Johnson
My grandma house is at Atlanta, or it's here.
Shannon Sharpe
I can't do it. It's b. Listen, here where I'm at now. Wait, listen, let me. You know, I'm sorry. When I talk about new. New beginnings.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't want nothing from back then. Going where I'm headed now. Nothing. Nathaniel.
Chad Johnson
All right, Ocho, it's time for our final segment.
Shannon Sharpe
Wait, no, no, no, no. Let's stay on a little bit more. I'm feeling good tonight.
Chad Johnson
Okay. You feeling good? So what you want to talk about? You want to talk about your locker? I mean, what locker? What? If you're gonna find anything of value, really significant value, if you go find a. A Rolex, you gonna find a diamond ring. If you're gonna find some, you're gonna find 20.20k in cash.
Shannon Sharpe
It's storage. Nothing of value is in storage. Everything of value. Everything of everything.
Chad Johnson
When I sent you. Did I send you something today that somebody found in storage that was valuable?
Shannon Sharpe
No, what you sent me.
Chad Johnson
Go back and look at your DMs and see what I sent you. Where that guy found in storage. Didn't I send it to you?
Shannon Sharpe
No. What was it? Oh, that's.
Chad Johnson
Look at your D. Huh? That.
Shannon Sharpe
Do you know how long that thing is from? Way from, like, 2007.
Chad Johnson
What?
Shannon Sharpe
That storage?
Chad Johnson
No, I'm saying you said people don't find nothing of value. I sent you something in your dm, but somebody found something real valuable in storage.
Shannon Sharpe
Hold on, Let me see.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, back up. Okay.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, my goodness.
Chad Johnson
So is there anything of value being there? Ocho?
Shannon Sharpe
A man finds 7.5 million cash in the 500. No, that ain't.
Chad Johnson
Man just paid 500 for a storage unit sold by auctioneer Dan Dodson, only to discover a Safe stuffed with 7.5 million in cash. After word got back to its original owner, they offered him 1.2 to recover the funds. The buyer accepted, walking away with $1,199,500 in profit.
Shannon Sharpe
I tell you so again. Hey, I tell you. I tell you what. Listen, that. That ain't clean. Because ain't nobody with no clean money gonna have it sitting in storage. Let's start there. Of course, there's a reason he gave it back. Anybody in their right mind ain't giving up no 7. $7 million for just 1.2. So you already know they made that call and say, hey, we need that back. That's a. That's a whole different ball.
Chad Johnson
But people. No, people Find valuable stuff in there all the time. I ain't. I ain't. No. I ain't. No. That ain't what I do. So I ain't no stories, no, but people have found stuff. Not that kind of cash, but people have found thousands of dollars they found valuable. I mean, you got.
Shannon Sharpe
You got. You got to think you got it. You got stuff. I ain't play football in. How long. How many years it's been, you think?
Chad Johnson
Probably 15 years, probably.
Shannon Sharpe
So that stuff been in there damn near 15 years, huh? I ain't seen it. Ain't 15 years, man.
Chad Johnson
I don't.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't. I'm. I'm good.
Chad Johnson
You pass. I don't want. You don't want anything?
Shannon Sharpe
Anything, Daniel. Everything.
Chad Johnson
I don't know why you bought them red shoes. Hey, listen, you must be. You plan on clowning somebody with them red shoes?
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I would clean. I had. I had a deal with Louboutin back in the day, so I used to get Loubout Vuittons free. If you've been following me on Twitter long enough, there was a time where I gave away Louboutins every week. It was either every. Every Monday or the first. The first week of every month on Twitter had a day. I had all kind of Loubout. I ain't got them days over, man. I got me a nice pair of Air force ones.
Chad Johnson
I like that.
Shannon Sharpe
I got me some open toe sandals, and I'm good. Oh, having a. Having 4, 500 shoes. I ain't, man. I'm a minimalist.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Everything in this house is all white. That's it. If it ain't white, it ain't coming. If it ain't white, it ain't right.
Chad Johnson
Well, somebody got something. Mine. They the. The. The lady that used to do. To do my. What you call it? That clean for me?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
I left everything. I left. I say, blanca, her and a friend named Vicki, they used to clean.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
I said, whatever. I say, whatever you want, you can take, right? But what you don't take, got to go to the trash. She's like, Mr. Shannon, you let me have all this. I said, all the bedroom stuff, right? All the dinette stuff, whatever you want, you take it.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
All glass, marble, all white. Custom. I had custom white furniture, Ocho. I had that furniture since 1992. I paid 30 grand for it. In 92? Yes.
Shannon Sharpe
You pay what. How much?
Chad Johnson
30 grand for that white couch.
Shannon Sharpe
What? In 1992?
Chad Johnson
In 92.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, what the hell kind of furnished that was?
Chad Johnson
Custom. The people that Made it. They stamped. They stamped it on the bottom of it, right? So she got the. She got the sleigh bed. She got the. The. The. The. The glass marble table. Yeah, she got the big man. I had a. You know, that big. That big diet where we ate that. Hey, that man, that thing so much. I said. I told. I said, blanca, don't you hurt yourself trying to have. So I said, you need about five or six men to come to do in the mood. That table. That table, the glass is that thick, Right?
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson
And the bottom man, Ocho, I end up had to get an epidural, man, I tried to lift that table myself and blew my back out.
Shannon Sharpe
Hell, no.
Chad Johnson
I know y' all in the chat about Paul's, but, man, Ocho, yeah, I lifted. Ocho, I lifted. Like this here, huh? And so I'm saying.
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't. You ain't bend your knees.
Chad Johnson
All I know. All I know is like a. Like a week later, I was. I was face down getting an epidural. Never again. That was the last. That was the last time I've ever tried to move anything. If it ain't no. If it ain't hung no hangers, no. No shirts, I ain't moving nothing. I'm paying. I pay. I'm gonna pay somebody to come in here, they're gonna fold it up, they go put it nice and neat, and they go right on the box, what it is. And then they gonna say, hey, Mr. Shark, this is such and such. Where would you like this? Upstairs? Yeah, downstairs. Right there.
Shannon Sharpe
See? See how you. You did everything yourself? I did. I did everything.
Chad Johnson
Me, I ain't did nothing myself. I ain't move nothing.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, I'm saying how you had people, you know, people do the boxes and. Hey, when I. When I came to. To this. This. This is all White Castle. I did all this. I did it on my own. I packed the boxes, I wrote everything on there. I got the U Haul, I put. I drove the. Man, listen. Oh, man.
Chad Johnson
I said, man, how long is it gonna take? I said, how long is it going to take y' all to get there? I said, you. I said, you ain't going that far, right? So, Mr. Sharp, we can. We can be there in a couple of days. I said, can you make it a day and a half.
Shannon Sharpe
For the right price?
Chad Johnson
Man, I stayed in the Hotel Shelley. A couple of her girlfriends sought up everything.
Shannon Sharpe
They got you, right, huh?
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Yeah, but I don't know no, man. Nah, I. Like I said, I. I had. I had a. I don't know, the other stuff I had has like some football cards and stuff right in storage, but I ain't really ever had anything. I still got my, my college shoulder pads, right. I still got those there up under the garage.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Johnson
The bag that it actually came in, you know, coach, they end up giving that. But I, I, I keep, I'm, I'm very sentimental. Oo see that.
Shannon Sharpe
See, that's the difference between me and you. Remember I told you not too long ago, I don't have no memorabilia.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
When I am done with the game of football and it passes on and it's no longer, I don't care about that stuff anymore. It's of no value to me.
Chad Johnson
No, I got that.
Shannon Sharpe
That's the way I've always been.
Chad Johnson
I told a story about how my mom brought us those white blazers. Me and my brother, right, we have white tuxedo blazers, right? Looking like John Travolta and Saturday Night Fever. I still got it. I still got the burgundy shirt to go along with it. I still got overalls that I took when I was, they took a picture of me. I was sitting in a cardboard box, right? I still got it. I got a little jacket that, when I was like 6, right? I still got it.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I'm, I'm not, I'm not like that. I'm not like that at all. I, I never, never had been. I think my grandma was, my mama was. My little brother, I'm not sure I'm calling my little brother. He's 30 something now. I'm, I'm just not like that. Huh? Yeah, I just. When the game, when the game, when it, when it's gone and it passing me by. Like my grandma used to tell me.
Chad Johnson
When I got in trouble, my grandmother held everything.
Shannon Sharpe
I washed my hands. I'm, I'm good now. I, I was at peace with that piece. I'm, I'm good now. If I could find that goddamn jacket, I put on that hall of Fame jacket that it might be in there. No, it's not in there because I've been looking for it for years. I've been looking for it for them for years since that damn game. One of them fans got it and don't want to give it to me.
Chad Johnson
Well, look, the only thing that I'm missing is that my brother got me a Rolex, a two tan, a two tone Rolex for my graduation. So if somebody find it in a pawn shop, it says, congratulations. I'm proud of you, Shannon. Big bro. Sterle, if y' all See that out there? Y' all get it to me. I got something for y'. All. It's a. It's a. It's on the jubilee bracelet. It's two tone gold down the middle. Silk. Yeah, but y' all know it's me. Hey, how many. Shannon Sterling. You know.
Shannon Sharpe
You right. You right.
Chad Johnson
But I. I don't know. In the process of moving, Ocho, I lost it, and I don't. And. And I. I. Everything that my brother's ever given my sister. Like, my sister give me silver dollars for washing the dishes. Yeah, my brother gave me my. Well, I told you my brother cut me on my leg and he paid me like $5 not to tell. I still got it. I got. I got a. A pack of Susan B. Anthony dollars. Ocho.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
That an ex gave me back in 1996. I still got it.
Shannon Sharpe
That. Oh, what you do? You got. You gotta listen. You got. You gotta let me know. Well, you. You different. You. You love the. The cinema. Cinema Sentimental value of things. I. I just don't. And I've always. I've always. It's funny. I've always been like that. Like once. Once. Once a time or.
Chad Johnson
I just. That's why, man, if somebody give me. Somebody give me something, Ocho, I. I can't.
Shannon Sharpe
I can't, man. I'm not like that. That's why it's so easy for me.
Chad Johnson
No, I can't. Let me take that back. Let me take that back, Ojo. Let me take that back. Let me take that back. I can. I have. I have, but I. I still have a lot. I'm talking about a lot. A lot of stuff.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Hey, you know what? That's why I'm. That's why it's so easy for me to detach. You see? You see?
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
You see how not only can I treat what other people. Everybody see. Oh, my God. He found your storage unit. It's so many valuables. Ain't value to me. It's not valuable to me. It's not value to me anymore. So the same way I can detach from that or stuff that people feel is valuable in the same way I detach from people that are closest to me.
Chad Johnson
That wrong. You okay?
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, I'm talking about. I would detach quick and don't even look back. Oh, that's what we. Okay, good. I'm gone. I'm out. Clean, easy. So if you think. Listen, if I. If I will leave you and don't care. You think I'm gonna care about. I definitely need the possessions, some shoes and clothes and. And. And remember, B, man, I don't care, man, about that shit. Next. And keep it moving.
Chad Johnson
All right, time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Damn time went by fast.
Shannon Sharpe
See what. See what happened. We having a good time, Good conversation.
Chad Johnson
It must be, what you call it must be football season around the corner. That's how it happened. Meets KD07. Said, UNC, do you think you guys would have three peded if you won the Super bowl in 96? No, I mean, it. It takes. It takes a toll on you. Injuries start to pile up because you're playing. I mean, Ocho, you know, back then, you know, it wasn't like it is now. It wasn't no protections afforded to players. It wasn't a protection reported to the receivers and the tight ends and the quarterbacks. You could blind side block somebody. It just take too much out of you. I. I'm not going. Oh, yeah, we the three peed it. There's a reason why nobody's ever done it. Think about it. They've been playing football Super bowl since 60. What, 66.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, it's hard.
Chad Johnson
Nobody's ever done it hard. Got close.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Chiefs.
Shannon Sharpe
So no Patriots, too?
Chad Johnson
No, the Patriots. The Patriots didn't get back to the Super Bowl.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, wait, they didn't. They didn't. Okay. You're right. They showed in. They showed in. That's right.
Chad Johnson
Dr. Frank L. Bellamy said, hey, fam, you talked about Ronnie Coleman since he's been sick. Wishing him all the best in a speedy recovery. Yes, I'm glad he told a story. He had an infection. He ended up getting sepsis, and his body started to shut down on him. Had he not been as resilient as he is, as strong as he is, because when you get sepsis, you know, your body starts fighting against itself, so it starts a start shutting down things, shut down your lungs, shut down your kidneys, shut down your liver, shut down your heart. And he happened to have one of his kids, daughters there with him, and they called 91 1. They were able to get him in had he been by himself. We're not. We're not able to have this story. We're not having this conversation about Ronnie being here. But yeah, Ronnie, we wish you the absolute best.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, sir.
Chad Johnson
Great, dude. I've been knowing Ronnie long, long before he became Mr. Olympia. And I can honestly say this about him. You know, a lot of times you hear people say, well, he ain't changed a bit. Ocho. He is the exact same.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, sir.
Chad Johnson
The way he was after he won the Mr. Olympia and became the biggest bodybuilder in the world. He was exactly like that before he became Mr. Olympian. He was humble. He talked. Stop talking to everybody. He's. He's outstanding. I'm glad we had an opportunity to sit down and had to do that. That piece with him last year. I've always wanted. Did one with Phil Jay Cutler, next on my list. But Ronnie has been the same, and, you know, he's had a tough time of it. He has no regrets anybody. And that's just not for sure. If you all ask him about regret, the only regret he told me he had, he said, shannon, I hate. I didn't squat that 800 pounds five times. All them back surgeries, he got metal rods. I mean, hey, he held together with. With spit duct tape and electric tape. And the only regret he has, Ocho, he's that, man, I should have squatted at £800 five times.
Shannon Sharpe
800.
Chad Johnson
800. He started out as a power lifter, right? So he had very, very dense muscles. If that's why you see the back, you see his hamstring, his glutes, if you see that feathering, that's what they call. When you shred it like that, they call it feathering look like lady fingers or look like feathers through his. His, his chain muscles, hamstrings, glutes, all that. But he said, that's the only regret I have. I didn't squat that £800 five times.
Shannon Sharpe
That's crazy. Boy, that's strong, man. Damn.
Chad Johnson
Jorian Fox, 2187, Jamar got a face. Alexander Ramsey Ward, two times a year. He like that. Now, I. I mean, he ain't gonna shy away from. He not going to shy away from the. The competition.
Shannon Sharpe
What's that? What's that supposed to mean? You mean they got to face him? You, you, you, you, you. You structured the sentence the wrong way. Yeah, they gotta face him. Get it right now.
Chad Johnson
He. Him chase that dude. He'll be okay. Leon Bates Jr. Said, Hey, O. Joe, do you think if Lamar has another early playoff exit in 2025, that it's time to have a real conversation in Baltimore? Lamar has no more excuses. They have a loaded roster and he's mvp.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, they've always had a loaded roster. What conversation?
Chad Johnson
Yeah, yeah, they have. No, they're looking to do a contract extension. I wouldn't be surprised if Lamar Jackson, at some point in time, become the highest paid player. He jumps over, he pole vaults over up in Buffalo. Yeah, absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, to have a conversation about.
Chad Johnson
You can have a conversation. The conversation is Lamar hadn't gotten it done. But if you talk about having a conversation about Lamar moving on bad, believe I'm hang the phone up on you and close the door in your face. Hell no.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't think.
Chad Johnson
I don't think.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't think people understand when people say stuff like that. I don't think they understand how difficult it is to find a quarterback. Especially a quarterback when in conversation is top three in the NFL and everybody else 28.
Chad Johnson
Lamar can't be no more than 27. 28.
Shannon Sharpe
Man, please.
Chad Johnson
He's 28. Like I said, yes, we can have a conversation and we will. If they don't get to and win the super bowl this year, we'll have a conversation that Lamar Jackson didn't get it done. The Baltimore Ravens didn't get it done. But if we're talking about any other type of conversation moving on from Lamar Jackson, hell no. I'm gonna give. I will give Lamar Jackson every opportunity until I don't feel that we can feel the team around him because his salary has gotten so astronomical.
Shannon Sharpe
Right?
Chad Johnson
But no. Hell no, let Lamar go. He one of the three best quarterbacks in the NFL. Are you talking about letting him go because he hadn't gotten to the Super Bowl? He might not, but I ain't letting him go. We, we, we, we six, seven years away from that. From having. From having a. A discussion that potentially Lamar somewhere else. But that's not even. That's not even in. In. In Steve Bashad, dacosta or Ozzy and John. That's not even in their mind. He's about to be the highest faith. What did Josh get? He about to get 260, 70 million fully guaranteed. Nah, Mar ain't going no damn where. I hope he like Baltimore. Cause he ain't going nowhere no time soon.
Shannon Sharpe
Nope.
Chad Johnson
Tay Tay to wave. Sup Ocho. What do the Ravens have to do to get over the hump this season?
Shannon Sharpe
Don't turn the ball over in the playoffs.
Chad Johnson
That's it.
Shannon Sharpe
Simple as that.
Chad Johnson
I don't need. I don't need Lamar to have one of those games where he throw for 300, he rushed 400. I just need him to be Lamar Jackson. I don't need Superman Lamar. I don't need the perfect quarterback rating. Lamar. I don't need the guy that, that, that. The human joystick that he's running and hitting the spin. Lamar just take care of the football.
Shannon Sharpe
That'S it, simple as that.
Chad Johnson
You have the players around you at the running back position, offensive line, tight ends, wide receivers, and you have a defense. They're good enough. Just don't turn it over. That's all you got to do, just don't turn it over. I don't. He's that good. He's good. He's gotten better every year. Am I surprised that he's. The only thing that surprises me is how well he's thrown the ball. Man. He threw for 41 touchdowns. 41. If somebody would have told me, Shannon, you know it. And within six, seven years, Lamar Jackson gonna throw for 40 touchdowns. Say I don't believe it.
Shannon Sharpe
Based on his style of play coming.
Chad Johnson
Do I, do I believe he can be a starting quarterback in the NFL and they can win a lot of games? Yes. Because I say, no, no, no, no, no. I, I saw what he did. I saw what he did at Louisville.
Shannon Sharpe
Louisville? Yeah.
Chad Johnson
The guy threw for 35 through for 3, 500 yards, rushed for 1500 yards. Yeah. No, no, no. He could play the NFL. He can play, but 41 touchdowns? Ocho, I didn't see that.
Shannon Sharpe
That's a lot.
Chad Johnson
Nobody saw that. Anybody tell you they saw that? They lied. Because if they would have saw that, they'd have taken him with the number one overall pick.
Shannon Sharpe
Bingo.
Chad Johnson
If you saw that Lamar Jackson gonna be a two time league MVP, finished second or third time and you say, well, he's gonna throw one year, he's gonna throw 40 half, 36 touchdowns with six picks and then he's gonna come back and throw another 41 touchdowns with four picks. And guess what, by the way, he's Gonna Rush for 1200. You'd have taken it with the number one overall pick. And if I'm not mistaken, Baker was the number one overall pick that year and Josh Allen was number seven. You to take it if somebody would have told you Lamar Jackson was going to be what he became.
Shannon Sharpe
Right.
Chad Johnson
You take him number one overall.
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely.
Chad Johnson
You don't have the Ravens trade back into the first round to take him at 32. If you believe he's gonna. Everybody say, oh, I knew that. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. Because what he's doing, nobody, no quarterback has ever done that before. I mean a quarterback that can rush for 1200 yards in the season and throw for 40 touchdowns in the season.
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, hold on. Don't forget he only threw four interceptions now, huh? He only threw four interceptions.
Chad Johnson
That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Remember the year he won the MVP, Ocho, he threw 36. Touch the first touchdown. He was unanimous. He threw 36 and six.
Shannon Sharpe
That's, you know, that's them Aaron Rodgers in his prime type numbers, too.
Chad Johnson
And he's gonna give you 700 to a thousand yards rushing, rushing, averaging eight, nine yards a clip.
Shannon Sharpe
That's crazy. Talk about who was that ass? If we need to have a conversation about what.
Chad Johnson
Prime. Oh, Jalen Ivy said prime Adrian Peterson or Prime Ladanian Thomason?
Shannon Sharpe
Wow. Now that's a good one.
Chad Johnson
That is a great one.
Shannon Sharpe
That's a good one. Again, it's all. It's all on preference. What you like.
Chad Johnson
All on preference.
Shannon Sharpe
That's what it come down.
Chad Johnson
I wasn't in the league with ap Played. I got a chance to see. I got a chance to see lt. Lt heads. In three seasons, lt has 69 touchdowns. I saw lt rush for 1600 yards. Check this out. I saw lt Rush for 1600 yards.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Have 100 catches and not make the Pro Bowl.
Shannon Sharpe
It's crazy.
Chad Johnson
Y' all know lt had 31 touchdowns in the season, right?
Shannon Sharpe
Yep. I remember that year that she. That's the year we had.
Chad Johnson
Y' all do realize that.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
People don't see. I don't think people realize how good LT was. Y' all don't realize how good. Y' all don't realize how good Ladanian Thomason was. I do because I got a chance to see him up close and personal.
Shannon Sharpe
Got to do your homework.
Chad Johnson
I saw him put 200 plus yards rushing yards on us and catch 10 passes against us. I saw that with my own two eyes. AP different. Oh, Lord. Damn. This not an easy one all day. The two different players completely different.
Shannon Sharpe
Peterson completely different.
Chad Johnson
I back, workhorse running back. But LT, man, how many touchdowns LT got like 150 something. I mean, LT got.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, LT catch it. Hey, LT. Hey, listen.
Chad Johnson
Cause Jerry got. Jerry got 208 and then I think it's Emmett. And then it might be like LT. Or is it Randy? Because I think Randy got 156 to got 153. Where is LT? LT got 145 total touchdowns.
Shannon Sharpe
Right? Jesus Christ.
Chad Johnson
I don't. I want to see the guy to catch Jerry. That's what I want to see. I hope I'm allowed to see the guy that gets 209 touchdowns. Hey, that what I want to see.
Shannon Sharpe
Oo, that's gonna be. I don't know what we gonna be.
Chad Johnson
So. No. Ladanian Thomas got 162 total touchdowns. Ocho, that's third behind Emmett. Because. Because Emmett. I think Emmett is next. But Jerry got 208. Jerry got 197 receiving touchdowns. Do y' all know how many touchdowns that is?
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, that's crazy.
Chad Johnson
Jerry got, what, 202 or 208? I think he got 208.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, that's crazy.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. 207. Yeah. 207. Okay, we got a pick oo prime. Adrian Peterson or LT. I think I'm gonna take LT.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go all day, then. Hey, listen, that. That's what. That's. That's. That's one of those questions like, you really. You really can't go wrong regardless of who you pick. Again, it all comes down to preference. I. I like. I personally like the fear that all day Adrian Peterson puts in defenses.
Chad Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
I. I personally like the fear. And you can see it. Nobody. They didn't want to come up and tackle.
Chad Johnson
Man, did you know how many times I don't saw that man put his hand behind his head and flip the ball to the referee?
Shannon Sharpe
Lt. That was the celebration right there. That was a celebration.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, man, I don't saw that so many times. How many times he did that? As a matter of fact, he broke the record against the Broncos because I think Priest has said it. Priest Holmes has set the record with 28. Lt went. Got 31. Do y' all know how many touchdowns, 31 touchdowns is in a season?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Do y' all have any idea? For a running back.
Shannon Sharpe
Hold on. And that was in the 16 game season, if I'm not mistaken, right? 16. That's crazy.
Chad Johnson
You want to see. You want to see Ocho?
Shannon Sharpe
Titus, what's up? What.
Storage Unit Finder
Bro?
Chad Johnson
All you did was jump up.
Shannon Sharpe
What they do, Twin? He tired, huh? He tired. I gotta take him on. Take him for a jog with me. See if he can. See if he can run.
Chad Johnson
Why you ain't in the bed? It's way past your bedtime, buddy. Off. Quentin. Quentin Mobley. Or Mobley, how they say it? Cause you know, where I grew up at, they call it Mobley. But I guess if you're from the north, they say Mobley. But anyway, Uncle Nocho, did y' all see one half flag football catch by Bryson Wright?
Shannon Sharpe
Listen, I even said. I even said, but that's probably the greatest catch I have seen. And that was even including NFL catches. Then somebody said, it's flag football. They didn't even have pads on. Well, hell, when we practice during the week, they don't have pads on either. In the NFL. The flag doesn't change the game. It's still football.
Chad Johnson
It's still a great catch.
Shannon Sharpe
That's. That was great. The man, he went this way. Yeah, he went. The man. Stop playing, man one. You're losing vision. You lose.
Chad Johnson
You know how you can't explain people that doesn't catch balls for a living? How difficult something you have to do.
Shannon Sharpe
That was nice. That was nice. That's up there with Brandon Lloyd. That's up there with Brandon Lloyd. That's up there with. With Odell. OBJ's catch man. Buddy said, man, let me get this, man.
Chad Johnson
I didn't know you was under here.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, they fighting. They fighting.
Chad Johnson
Thanos.
Shannon Sharpe
Get him, Teddy Bear. Get him, Teddy Bear.
Chad Johnson
I didn't know he was up for the. Yeah, Titus, lay down. Caleb said, hey, Uncle Ocho, are you taking Miami Braun? Cleveland Braun, Lakers Braun? And when he retires, will it impact the league? The league's going to go on. Did the league stop when Jordan stopped Magic Bird?
Shannon Sharpe
The game always goes on, Wilt.
Chad Johnson
Look, the league's going to be in great shape. LeBron has been a great ambassador, but it happens. Great players retire. Tom Brady, retired. Peyton Manning, retired. Joe Montana, retired. Emmett Smith, John Elway, Marino, J.J. watt, Aaron Donald, Lawrence Taylor, Joe Green. He's fine. Which Cleveland Brian? First Cleveland Braun or second Cleveland Brian? Many people believe Miami Brown was the apex of his powers. He was. And it's hard to say because if you go back and look at it, he's pretty much averaged the same thing. It'd be, you know, somewhere between 25 and 27 points a night. He could do it all. Probably Miami Braun. Probably Miami Braun. Thanos. Thanos. Ocho. Yo, CJ 1998 say, what's up, Ocho? Who's your favorite superhero and why? Also, I've created my own comic. Is there a way I could send it to you?
Shannon Sharpe
Superhero.
Chad Johnson
What's your favorite superhero?
Shannon Sharpe
Man, I got a problem. I don't watch. I don't watch Marvel or DC Comics. Nah, man. I never. Unfortunately, I'm not into it. I only know who I know. I know the name Thanos. Not because of your dog, but because when that movie came out, Infinity. Something dominated. Yeah, it dominated my timeline. Then I knew about the Stones, and I knew about Thanos snapping his finger and. And something. That's pretty much it. But I. I don't. Yeah. That's unfortunate.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. DM Ash. Send it to Ash. Ash gets all my mail. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. We really appreciate you Tuning in Stopping by Thanos I am your favorite uncle Shannon Sharp that is my partner and co host Liberty City's own Bingo's Ring of Fame Artery Pro Bowler All Pro that's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and guys go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you you get your podcast from. We want to thank each and every one of you for your eyes, your ears and word of mouth for helping Nightcap become what we've become. We cannot. Thank you very much. Thank you for your support and your continued support. Please make sure you check out Shay by La Portier. We do have it in stock. It's a premium BSOP cognac and if you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. But best believe we are coming to a city or state near you and and I'm about to be back in the market, I think in a couple of weeks. I'm in Atlanta at three stops. Check my IG and your email account to find out if I'm coming to a locale near you. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Go follow my media company page on all of his platforms. Shay, Shay Media and my clothing company 84 with 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat Supplies Unlimited and once they're gone, they're gone. So please grab yours while supplies last. I'm unk he's Ocho. We'll see you back tomorrow at the same time. Thank you again for joining us tonight.
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Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 2 – Unc & Ocho React to Cam Newton Leaving Jalen Hurts Out of the Top 10 QBs
Release Date: July 21, 2025
Introduction
In this engaging episode of Club Shay Shay, NFL legend Shannon Sharpe and co-host Chad Johnson (known as Unc & Ocho) delve deep into the controversy sparked by former quarterback Cam Newton's decision to exclude Jalen Hurts from his Top 10 list of NFL quarterbacks. Beyond this central discussion, the hosts also explore topics ranging from the compensation of WNBA players to memorable moments from their personal lives.
1. Cam Newton's QB Ranking Controversy
Chad Johnson initiates the conversation by addressing Cam Newton's controversial ranking.
a. Defense of Jalen Hurts
Shannon Sharpe passionately defends Jalen Hurts, emphasizing his pivotal role in the Philadelphia Eagles' success.
b. Comparison with Hall of Fame Quarterbacks
Chad draws parallels between Jalen Hurts and historic quarterbacks like Troy Aikman and Joe Montana, arguing that Hurts shouldn't be judged solely on his personal statistics but rather on his contributions within his team's system.
c. Offensive Schemes and Team Composition
The duo discusses how the Eagles' offensive strategy, which doesn't rely heavily on high passing volumes, plays to Jalen Hurts' strengths and the overall team dynamic.
d. Notable Quotes
Chad Johnson [07:05]: "They have them big ass goddamn rings. That's it. It's simple."
Shannon Sharpe [09:15]: "James is definitely top five and he's at five."
2. WNBA Salaries and Player Compensation
Shannon and Chad pivot to discuss the disparities in revenue sharing between the NBA/NFL and the WNBA.
a. Revenue Share Comparison
Chad highlights that while NBA and NFL players receive around 50% of league revenues, WNBA players are allocated a mere 9%.
b. Advocacy for Increased Pay
The hosts passionately argue for a fairer distribution of revenue to WNBA players, suggesting incremental increases to ensure sustainability and growth.
Shannon Sharpe [25:05]: "It's been increasingly better and better and better. So if you only make 9%... there's nothing wrong with making a little bit more."
Chad Johnson [32:20]: "I would like it to be somewhere between 20 and 25%."
c. Future Projections
Chad discusses the financial trajectory of the WNBA, noting upcoming TV deals that could significantly boost league revenues.
d. Notable Quotes
Shannon Sharpe [32:46]: "And I know somebody that you must be. You know the cinema sentimental value of things... unattached from that."
Chad Johnson [34:01]: "The WNBA is continuing to grow... these ladies shoot goddamn game dope as hell."
3. Storage Units: Finding Valuables
In a lighter segment, Chad shares a story about someone finding high-end items like Christian Louboutin shoes and signed memorabilia in storage units.
Chad Johnson [43:11]: "Look at these soccer cleats. These are made out of kangaroo leather for sure."
Shannon Sharpe [42:32]: "We got them right there."
Despite the excitement, Shannon expresses his detachment from past possessions, emphasizing his focus on new beginnings.
Notable Quotes
Chad Johnson [57:02]: "I lost it, and I don't... I have a lot, I'm talking about a lot of stuff."
Shannon Sharpe [55:20]: "When the game is gone and it passing me by... I'm good now."
4. Final Segment: Q&A and Reflections
The hosts wrap up with a Q&A session, addressing fan questions about Super Bowls, player performances, and hypothetical scenarios involving legendary athletes like Ronnie Coleman.
Chad Johnson [67:03]: "If somebody would have told you Lamar Jackson was going to be a two-time league MVP..."
Shannon Sharpe [66:40]: "Simple as that. Just don't turn it over."
Notable Quotes
Chad Johnson [68:07]: "You take him number one overall if you believe he's gonna be a two-time league MVP."
Shannon Sharpe [72:01]: "I personally like the fear that all day Adrian Peterson puts in defenses."
Conclusion
Nightcap Hour 2 offers a robust discussion on the intricacies of quarterback rankings, the importance of team dynamics, and the ongoing struggle for equal compensation in women's sports. Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson provide insightful analysis, backed by personal anecdotes and passionate advocacy, making this episode a must-listen for sports enthusiasts seeking depth and perspective.
Notable Quotes Recap
Chad Johnson [02:31]: "Cam Newton started a firestorm when he didn't have Jalen Hurts in his top 10 quarterbacks in the league."
Shannon Sharpe [03:12]: "As a receiver, I understand Jalen's side... He does exactly what the Philadelphia Eagles ask of him when it comes to running that offense."
Chad Johnson [05:00]: "There are a lot of great quarterbacks that's in the hall of Fame that threw to great receivers."
Chad Johnson [24:00]: "They are going from roughly 45 million annually to 200 million annually. This will result in a net gain of 115 million just alone in TV deals."
Chad Johnson [32:20]: "I would like it to be somewhere between 20 and 25%."
Shannon Sharpe [55:20]: "When the game is gone and it passing me by... I'm good now."
Chad Johnson [68:07]: "You take him number one overall if you believe he's gonna be a two-time league MVP."
Shannon Sharpe [72:01]: "I personally like the fear that all day Adrian Peterson puts in defenses."
Listeners are encouraged to subscribe to Club Shay Shay for more in-depth sports discussions and to follow Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson on their social media platforms for updates and additional content.