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Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Jason Garrett being SHOCKED by the Micah Parsons trade
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Shannon Sharpe
Former Cowboys coach Jason Garrett was shocked by the trading of Michael Parsons. I was shocked. You know, the most important player on the football team is the quarterback. The second most important player on the football team is the guy that can negatively affect the quarterback. And those guys are hard to come by. Ever since that guy came into the league, he's been a dominant player. He's transformative, he's changed the whole team. If you think about The Cowboys in 2020, they were 6 and 10. They weren't a very good team. And then they get defensive coordinator Dan Quinn, and all of a sudden they're different team.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
And.
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Shannon Sharpe
And if you look at all those interceptions that the DBs are making, bland, Diggs, they're intercepting them, the running backs for touchdown and running them back for touchdowns, you look at what's going on around the quarterback on those throws. Micah is the guy causing all the problems. And those guys are hard to come by. If you think about it, in four years, 52 sacks, he and Reggie White being used in the same sentence. He's an impactful player. I was shocked that. That they let him out of the building. A lot of people are saying that, and a lot of people don't understand. It was ego. It was the same ego that let Jimmy Johnson out of the building. It was the same ego. Credit, credit. He like, I found Michael Parson. I know. I'll go find me another one. Guess what you found DeMarcus Ware. And guess what you did. You let him out the building and he go win the super bowl with the Broncos. Now, I'm not saying Michael Parson is going to go win a Super bowl, which I'm saying. But when you got a guy that's 26 years of age and he can hunt the quarterback like he can, everybody's looking. That's why Pittsburgh paid T.J. watt at the age of 31. What they paid him. That's why Cleveland paid Miles Garrett, even though he had two years left on his contract, what they paid him. They need guys that can hunt the quarterback, and this guy can hunt the quarterback. Now, Eagles got involved. Eagles on both sides. Jerry felt that, you know, we had a handshake deal. Even though he's not supposed to be negotiating with the player when he knows the player has an agent. Michael felt he was disrespected. And I agree. And I can't say that I disagree with him, because you telling a guy, well, hey, we paid him last year and he missed time, and now all of a sudden, we can't. We can't stop the run and we can't do this. It's almost like everything that's going on defensively that's wrong with the Cowboys is he's putting it on Micah as the reason why. And then you turn around and say, nah, you gonna play on that fifth year option. Michael said, no, I'm not at all. And look, they had at that point in time Ocho, you have to move him. But when you get two strong minded individuals, obviously Jerry. Jerry is, is not going to bend. He's made it abundantly clear. He run things, he does things his way. It served him well. It's hurt him in certain instances. But I'm surprised also because guys like Michael Parson don't drop off trees. They just don't. I mean, I was surprised that he was. He lasted as long as he did because I watched him. I saw him and I saw a guy that was sudden. I saw a guy that was impactful. I saw. I saw a guy that jumped off the. He jumped off the screen at you. I said, somebody, no, no, he can play. And then you watch him go to the combine and do what he did. I said, okay, yeah, player. Because I want to watch him on tape, watch him on tv. Does he jump up?
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
God damn, he's. Hey, listen, well, let's see. Let's see if he runs fast. Ocho, let's see if he's explosive by jumping high. Let's see what type of short area quick does he have in the shuttle, in the car.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Hey, Michael Parsons. Abdul Carter, Von Miller. Deep as the ends that are not tall. Not six five, not six four and two, whatever. Undersized. Got a nice toolbox, got a nice motor, lateral movement. Very good with the hands. They all got something in common. Abdul Carter gonna be up next, huh? You gonna be the next one. Watch.
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Shannon Sharpe
Jerry, you built your team. You had an undersized defense. The way you built your team is that you were supposed to score, get the lead, they couldn't run. So you pin your ears back. Now when you turn the ball over and you don't race out to that big lead, now you got a big offensive line leaning on your underside. Defense. Now you get guys running up and down the field on you. But when you get a Michael Parsons. Ain't nobody said everything nobody ever said, man, Derrick Thomas can't stop the run. He gonna hunt your damn quarterback, though. You go get the quarterback. As a matter of fact, I want you to play the run on the way to the quarterback. Now, if they hand the ball to him and you headed to the quarterback, go ahead and tackle him, but I want you to go get the quarterback. But you could see kind of where this was headed. Jerry, who, like, wants to prove a point that it's going to be my way or no way. And then once he. And I don't think he left Michael much of a choice because it seems to me that Michael was kind of hell bent on not playing on that 21. They had a grievance foul. He was a linebacker. Linebacker is 24. The defensive end is 21 5. And so whatever the case may be, he didn't want to play on that number. And Jerry basically said, you're gonna play on that number or you going somewhere else? He said, well, send me somewhere else then.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Case closed, as a matter of fact. And when I left, you said, you just got better you while I was there. You need to stop the run. So you went and got Kenny Clark and then you permitted to say that we need to get better in the run, not realizing who you play Week 1 on Thursday. So when the game come Thursday, and I can't wait to Thursday night show, because if the goddamn Eagles run their ass up and down the goddamn field against the Cowboys, Jerry again didn't put his foot in his goddamn mouth.
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Shannon Sharpe
My thing is, Ocho, I don't really see the need if we break up, I don't need to say anything negative.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
About you never will ever.
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Shannon Sharpe
Because all. I didn't say that. All those things that I'm saying about you now, you were those exact same thing when I was walking around arm and arm and we Kiki Ki and showing up to a business together. You were all those things. You didn't do anything that caused us to break up that you weren't doing when we were together. It seems to me whatever, whatever, whatever Jerry's saying about Micah now, did he just get that way in the off season or. Or had he been like that since you got him now? Pretty soon stuff's gonna start coming out probably he missed meetings and he was late to practice and he wasn't doing this. It's gonna come out. Watch what I tell you now. Watch what I tell you. It kind of slipped out because he said something about Jay Z, about showing up to meetings and all this and stuff like that. But it's. It's the most stuff gonna come out. Stuff you never accept anything in a win. You wouldn't. And a loss.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
And there are a lot of people that will accept as long as we winning. Well, if you start. If a guy missed meetings, if a guy missed practice and you winning, if you start to lose, why is it a problem? You accepted it when you was winning, so why is it unacceptable when you're losing? That's why you don't accept things in a win you wouldn't in a loss because you're setting a bad precedent. You're sitting. I'm telling you, you Let guys start. Guys come in overweight, Ocho, and they're a pound or two overweight. And you win, you're like, hey, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Sooner or later, that two pounds gonna turn to five, five's gonna turn to ten. And then when it comes. Cause guess what? Most places that do get cold and you don't lose weight as easily is when it's hot. Now, Miami might be a different situation. Arizona, you know some places like that. But you start playing in New York and you play in Baltimore, you play in Cincinnati, you play in places where it gets cold, Ocho, and you're not running around like that. It gets harder and harder. I think that's the. One of the best thing, one of the best lessons that Mike Shanahan told me. And it stuck with me. And here we are, 30 plus years later, 84. I'll never accept anything in a win. I wouldn't end a loss. That effort that you gave me there, that ain't it. I wouldn't accept no. The meeting, punctuality and. And you can appreciate that. But like I said, I got nothing bad to say. Because a lot of things when, when, when. When you tolerated. I'm going say my thing. Whatever transpired, I bite my tongue. I'd be the bigger person. I'll walk away. Hey, you right. Because you know Wild Cho is low hanging fruit. You know how I know? Cause your boy, you looking at him. He's low hanging fruit. And there are a lot of people taking your shot at your boy. Y' all can have it. Y' all got it. Y' all got me.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Yeah.
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Shannon Sharpe
It's all right. It's okay. It's okay. We're gonna be on. No Jerry say we gonna be all right.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
I could have told you that. I could tell you. I've been telling you that. No way.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, everybody. Everybody want to pile on. Everybody jump on now. Hey, we got him down, Ocho. We got him down. The best time to. Hey, let me get. Let me get my lick now. Everybody want to get a lick now. Because when your boy was doing good, even here, a lot of people that have a whole lot to say. Not everybody got something to say about it. We're going to be all right, Ocho. Former Panthers running back Mike Davis talked about his poor experience with Matt Rule in Carolina on Raw Room podcast. Damn. Let's take a listen to what he had to say.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Ocho, bro, we did live goal line cmac. First day from injury. First day back from injury.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's crazy.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
And he get hollowed. He just walked off the field.
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm gone. I would have been gone. That's what I'm saying. What are you doing? And he was so mad. He's so mad. He just walked out of here. Why would that even be a scenario that he would be in? It's his first day back.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Why would I put him in the laundry? It was just, it was just stuff like that that was going on, though.
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Shannon Sharpe
It's not college.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
He thinks that's what college is, you know what I'm saying? And you know how like, I don't even think it was like OTs like phase one, you know what I'm saying? You know, we supposed to be on the field. We doing like, supposed to do like walk through stuff, you know what I'm saying? Even if we do running, it's kind of like 50. We was going a hundred percent. You know how bad it got to be for CMAC to be like, hey, y'.
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Shannon Sharpe
All.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Hey, all right, I'm gonna say something. Cause we doing too much.
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Shannon Sharpe
That's crazy. Wow. Well, that's a college coach. And, and you know, Coach Saban, Remember how Coach Saban was, How the guys say Coach Saban was when he got to Miami?
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Hey, but they, they, they, they wouldn't, they wouldn't move, though. And boy, I'm talking about the veterans, the veterans, the veterans, certain stuff.
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Shannon Sharpe
They didn't have a whole lot of those. They didn't have a whole lot of those there in Carolina and CMAC and C. Mac was young and he even said something. I mean, if they look practicing, the guys like that, when you're in college, you get away with it, Ocho. Because the guy, you can tell a 18, 19, 20 year old something that a 24, 25 year old guy would tune your ass out. You know why, Ocho? I'm already here. You. You telling the 18, 19 year old kid Ocho something. 18, 19, 20 year old kid something because he's trying to get somewhere. You got his undivided attention. I'm 24, 25, I'm already here. And. And I make more than you.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Yeah, especially when you're already there. And you put me in harm's way. Now you put harm's way. Why are we going miles an hour? Why am I just coming back from injury? And you got me in going 100 miles an hour and then I get high low as soon as I get in there.
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Shannon Sharpe
We went like you go live gold light in training camp. But, but you Know, in training camp, you know, explain. Look, 907. Yeah, live, go live. Hey, all right. Hey, you know, hey, I batting down the hatches, Ocho. I tagged him short. Tighten them shoulder pads up. It's live. Okay, I, I, I expect that. I ain't expect no damn live go line during, during the season unless it's in the game. Damn sure ain't expecting that. You know, training camp's a different animal. I mean, we once had, we had what we call hell week in 94oo. We had 16 straight PR padded practice.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Straight.
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Shannon Sharpe
16, 16 padded.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
No, sir. Well, hey, I would have had.
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Shannon Sharpe
Now, I ain't telling what somebody told me they had. I'm telling you what I know.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
I'm telling you I would have had shells on. Huh?
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Shannon Sharpe
Bad. Oh, yo, you know that third day now, you know that, that old man get in there, you start walking still. If it hurt to get up out the bed, you like, man, what time is it? Man, it's two o'.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Clock.
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Shannon Sharpe
I think I can hold this P till 7. Damn, man, your knees hurt, your hips hurt? Ocho, your ankles, Man, I ain't trying to get up back. I ain't trying to get up and walk on that cold ass float and go to the bathroom in my bathroom. We stayed in college dorms and my room, but the bathroom was right there because I just walk out and I'm in the bathroom. But it hurt to get up, man. I'm pray. I was like, lord have mercy.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
I remember, mind you, I don't forget now. I was, I was there for two days. I know what it's like. I remember them days, man, please. Oh, man, it was some days, boy.
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, yeah, I mean, some people never know what that's like, Ocho. I don't, like I said, I don't know. I haven't been to a, a training camp in a long time. So I don't know if it's walkthroughs, if it's meetings in the afternoon. I don't know what it is. I don't know how they do it. You know, I think you can have on pass for like 13 practices during the season. I, I don't know. We only put on pads on Thursday. We had on pass for like 12 plays. Might have. We had plans for 12 plays, nine on seven. That was it. Then we come up out the pads, then we didn't have on pads. We didn't have on pads on Wednesday. We didn't have on pads after those 13 plays. 12. 13 play, maybe 12. It might have been like nine or 10, whatever the case may be. If it was a good nine on seven, you come up out of them. And then Friday, obviously you didn't have on. You didn't have on pads. Now, coach Reed, we had on. We had on pads. We had on pads on. Had on pads and shorts. That was shell. That was those white shells we won't own until about week 13 weeks old.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
No, sir.
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Shannon Sharpe
That was old school. That was the old school days.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Listen, I had. I had some days where I just didn't feel like wearing pads. So I put my shells on and I. Obviously, you know, the DBs and the linebackers, they'll be able to be able to tell the difference. So, you know, there would be no. Obviously they know Just. Just a touch below the hip. Don't. Don't hit me. Yeah, don't hit me because I'm. I'm. I let them know right away I put. Get one of them signals like this. Tap my head or I tap my shoulder. Shoulder pads. And they know. All right, we got you.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, man, Mike wasn't playing that. Come on, man. Look here. I ain't trying to be out here all day, man. Let's go ahead and make this thing look. We ate 907. We got like eight plays and I got like six of them. Let's make it look good. Let's make it look good for the camera. Ocho. Hey, let's fire. Thud it up and keep it moving. Cause Michael, start this mofo.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
You don't want that.
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Shannon Sharpe
Man. Michael started over. And you, you go all the way back from stretching. Go back to stretch.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Hold on. And do all the periods over again.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yes.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Absolutely not.
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay, F around if you want to. What might they play that, man? Hey, man, we. Man, we. Hey, drop. Drop two passes in a row. I dropped one. Then Rod, drop one. We might be on play eight. Start it over. We start the whole.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Huh? Man, run that back.
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Shannon Sharpe
My bad, guys. My bad. My bad.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Oh, man.
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Shannon Sharpe
Derrick Henry needs 1317 yards rushing to become one of the NFL top 10 rushes in the. In his career. The historic run with lift Henry from his current 19th spot propel him past seven hall of Fame running backs. Ocho, you can see the list right there. I don't think anybody's going to get image record. I think it's safe. But you see Walter Payton, you look at Frank Gore, Barry Sanders. Barry Sanders, he did that in 10 years. So imagine averaging 15, 20 yards.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
That's crazy.
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Shannon Sharpe
But anyway, you see Kurti Martin, Ladanian, jb man, it's funny. I was in the league with Emmett, Barry Curtie, Mark lt, Bettis, Dickerson, Marshall, Edge. I don't think I played against it. I did. I did. Marcus Thurman, Fred, Steven. I don't think I was in to see Steven Jackson. Damn. I think he gets it. I say he gonna be in the top 10. I think he gonna be in the top 10 by the time the season.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
1300. Yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be the same culprits. It's gonna be the same culprits that are gonna have 1300 plus this year. Same ones. And he's one of them. Absolutely one of them.
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Shannon Sharpe
I mean, think about it. Ojo, he rushed for 12,000. He rushed for 12,000 in high school. He broke Ken Hall's record of over 12,000. He from Sugarland. And this man had. Jerry Henry had like 4,000 yards rushing.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Real deal.
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Shannon Sharpe
So you think about it, think about all the yards. This man is rushed for 12,000 in high school, another 12,000. He got 11. A little over 11,000. Now that's 20. And then had what, two, 3,000 in the NFL? I mean, in college he definitely. And to be that durable and to be a collision back.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Yeah, yeah. Let me see. We. We think about, think about running backs having 1300. I mean, that I know. Gonna have 1300. Derrick Henry, Saquan Barkley.
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Shannon Sharpe
Jonathan Taylor.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Jonathan Taylor. Because they don't have a choice but to give him the ball. Correct.
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Shannon Sharpe
Josh.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Josh Jacobs is going to be right there. Fringy Aaron Jones. He'll hit a thousand. I don't know if he'll get the 13.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, he won't get 13. He's. He's more of dual threat. He's more of a runner and a catcher.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Let me think who else? I said Josh Jacobs already. Yeah. What do you think about cmac? You think he'd be able to stay healthy all season long?
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Shannon Sharpe
He's more of a dual threat. I can see him close to 1300, but he might have another 700 receiving.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
I. I want to go with Bijan Robinson. I think more like 11, maybe 1100. I want to say Kyron Williams too, especially though. Especially with him just getting paid over there in la. But I think he's gonna have to split carries with. I forgot who the backup is. I.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, man. Jim Brown. Jim Brown had 12,000 yards in nine seasons.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Is it with Jim Brown that good or was the level of competition that shitty?
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Shannon Sharpe
He was. I mean, he had speed, power. You talking about a guy that was 6 2, 230 pounds when the offensive lineman was like 240. He was an MVP in his rookie season. I don't think we'll ever see an NFL MVP in his rookie season. I don't think we'll see, I don't think we'll see another NBA MVP in his rookie season. Like we saw with. I think Wilt Chamberlain was an mvp and I think Wes Unsel was an mvp. I think Freddie Lynn in baseball was an mvp. Jim Brown was an mvp. We're not gonna see that anymore. It was, it was, it was so long ago. We're not gonna, we're not gonna see it. We're not gonna see it. But Derek Henry, for him to be a collision back and to still be putting up the yards that he's putting up, kind of like Adrian Peterson was a collision back. I mean, you think about Frank Gore with two repaired ACLs. I think he had two ACL surgeries, maybe three and he got sick. He's the third all time leading rusher.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Hey, that's crazy. Just think about that.
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Shannon Sharpe
I mean, think about that backfield. Clinton Porter's, Frank Gore, Willis McGahey, that was your backfield to you.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
And boy, we're loaded, boy.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yep. But stay Henry King. Stay healthy. King Henry. What year is it for King Henry? 11.
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Shannon Sharpe
This going to be 10 okay for him to like I said, to be a collision back to run to that kind of contact with the amount of carries that he's had.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Shoot, don't nobody, don't nobody want to hear collision back but don't nobody want to collide with him.
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Shannon Sharpe
True. True.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
That's a big boy.
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Shannon Sharpe
Nebraska. Dylan Raiola became the center of a conversation on social media during his squad matchup, with many believing he's trying a little too hard to resemble Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes was also on hand yesterday at Arrowhead Stadium when Kansas City when Riola Cornhuskers took on Cincinnati Bearcats in the video booth both arriving in Arrowhead went viral, many pointed out just how similar Riola looked to Mahomes, even down to what he chose to wear to the game. If that Is that the center used to be from Detroit, son. The quarterback from Nebraska, Dominique Raiola. Is that Dylan Raiola? Is that the court? Is that the center? I think he was a center for Detroit. Is that his dad? Is that his son There was a sinner. It's his uncle. No, Dominique. Yeah, damn, I'm good.
- [29:17]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
That's his son.
- [29:19]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah, it is.
- [29:20]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Listen, if there. If there's a person you want to replicate, there's a person you want to emulate and you want to be like, shoot, he doing. He replicating the right person.
- [29:31]
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, he can't help. I mean, maybe. I mean, from the gear, the outfit, but he can't help if you look like him. Damn.
- [29:36]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Only that. But copy him. Copy him everything he does. Why not?
- [29:43]
Shannon Sharpe
They could be worse people. Worse person. They could be a worse people you can emulate.
- [29:46]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Yeah. Yeah, I like it.
- [29:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, look at it.
- [29:49]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Hey, from a. From the. His mechanics, his thorn motion. He got. He be doing all this too, like doing whatever we want to play. He got. He got everything down, the whole nine yards.
- [30:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, damn, they mad. I guess they were mad at Kobe when he tried to be like Jordan. He walked like him, he talked like him. He had everything copied. Everything down to the elbow to the. The nice lead pulled down over his calf. Damn.
- [30:15]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
And there's no.
- [30:16]
Shannon Sharpe
There are worse people you can emulate.
- [30:18]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
The reason why Kobe is one of the greatest of all time ever.
- [30:24]
Shannon Sharpe
Maybe Dominique reload says sir Kobe. Well, maybe I can get me a couple of years like that. Oh, Jeremy Lynn finally retired today. What NFL version of insanity? Tebow.
- [30:38]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
No, you think? Whoa, T Bone.
- [30:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Sanity.
- [30:44]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
You said it was the version of. It was the NFL version of Linsanity Tebow.
- [30:57]
Shannon Sharpe
Do you remember Lynn, Sandy, when he.
- [30:58]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Was in the Knicks? I remember he was going crazy.
- [31:00]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay? Yeah. And Tebow, when he's with the Broncos that one season he got to the.
- [31:06]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Playoffs, he had to demarius time.
- [31:09]
Shannon Sharpe
The dead rock.
- [31:10]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
I mean, the, The.
- [31:11]
Shannon Sharpe
The.
- [31:11]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
The stick. Yeah, the slam. Yeah.
- [31:15]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, that's L. Sanity.
- [31:17]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Okay.
- [31:17]
Shannon Sharpe
Did L Sanity do anything anywhere else he went?
- [31:20]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Oh, he was all right now with the Lakers too. Now, don't do that. He had. He had a little shine with the Lakers too. Now.
- [31:30]
Shannon Sharpe
So who. So who. Who would be the NFL version of insanity? Then I said, Tebow, you.
- [31:35]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
I'm not disagreeing.
- [31:36]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm just.
- [31:37]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
I'm just. I'm just. I mean, I'm trying to say this, and I don't want to be disrespectful.
- [31:44]
Shannon Sharpe
Go ahead.
- [31:47]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
No, you know, I'm not gonna. You know what my grandma always told me? If you don't have nothing nice to say, don't say nothing at all. I don't want to talk about nobody. Game.
- [31:57]
Shannon Sharpe
What Game? What you gonna say?
- [31:59]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
What? What was Jeremy Lynn's weakness because everyone thought Tim Tebow's weakness was his inability.
- [32:08]
Shannon Sharpe
To do consistency for the football.
- [32:11]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
So I, I just. That when you compare. So I'm, I'm kind of nitpicking at the comparison.
- [32:19]
Shannon Sharpe
I'm talking about the aura. Because Lynn sanity didn't happen in la. It didn't happen anywhere else but New York. And I'm saying T boism and maybe he. People say he didn't get a fair chance or whatever the case may be, but it was only in Denver for that brief period of time.
- [32:37]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Remember? You know what else is special?
- [32:39]
Shannon Sharpe
Cleveland.
- [32:41]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
This young fella played running back. Matter of fact, his season was so good, he ended up on the COVID of Madden.
- [32:49]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you talking about Peyton Hillis?
- [32:51]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
There you go. Yeah, I kind of like that comparison better because, I don't know, Payton Hillis came out of nowhere. Boy, that season, I forgot what year that was. Oh, my.
- [33:03]
Shannon Sharpe
But you got to realize he was in the same backfield. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He went to Arkansas. McFadden and the guy that went to the first round pick of the Cowboy. They was in the backfield together. Yes. What was the other guy named? The running back. He got drafted the first round. He went to Dallas. Dallas had to be like, oh, Murray, Murray something.
- [33:29]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
DeMarco Murray.
- [33:31]
Shannon Sharpe
No, no, DeMarco Murray's from Oklahoma. Darren McFadden replaced DeMarco Murray. McFadden got drafted by the. The Raiders, I think, at 8. What was the other guy named? Chad. What's his name?
- [33:46]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
He played for the Cowboys?
- [33:48]
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
- [33:49]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Not Mary.
- [33:51]
Shannon Sharpe
Felix Jones. Felix Jones.
- [33:54]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Jones. Wait, all three of them was on the same team?
- [34:00]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
- [34:01]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Felix Jones, Peyton Hillis.
- [34:05]
Shannon Sharpe
Derek McFadden.
- [34:06]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
God damn, that's a crazy deal.
- [34:08]
Shannon Sharpe
They would. They drafted him two spots before Chris Johnson. Remember? Chris Johnson went to the Titans.
- [34:16]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Okay, okay.
- [34:18]
Shannon Sharpe
But they also took, you know, Jerry does a great job. He took Taco Charlton. He left T.J. watt on the board. But Jerry is great at this thing. Now, don't let, don't let Jerry fool you.
- [34:28]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
He did say he's the. He's the best person to run the team. Huh?
- [34:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Let me ask you a question. Dale Hansen said something. He was a former reporter. He's a former. In Dallas. He asked Jerry, said, Jerry, in any other sport. And name another team that would hire you to be their general manager. That's if you could tell if somebody good about Ocho. Would somebody hire you with another team if you got fired? Name a team in the NFL. Name a team in nb mlb. Name a team in the NBA that would draft you to pick players for them.
- [35:12]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Ain't happening. Ain't happening, Captain. Hey, listen, he got. He got. He. He might miss a lot, but he got a few. He got a few good ones. Now we got a few. Especially when it comes to that 88 he got. He got a string of 88 he put together.
- [35:33]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, Ocho, you got to think about it. He had no choice. They were gone. Hold on. Did he. Did CD go before or after Jefferson? I think he went after. Right, because you got to think about it. Judy had already been going off the board. Jalen Waddle was already going off the board.
- [35:54]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Yeah, it went.
- [35:58]
Shannon Sharpe
Henry Rugs, then Jared Judy, then cd. Okay, but hold on.
- [36:05]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
All the way before jj.
- [36:08]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep.
- [36:10]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Man, let me go get in the scouting department, man.
- [36:15]
Shannon Sharpe
You know, Ocho, man, you know, when Henry Ruggs went to the combine, he ran four, two. You know what that dude and Jew had already when he won the Balitnikov Ward as a sophomore? Saucing people up. So you could understand that Justin Jefferson. People didn't want to give Justin Jefferson no credit because it's like, well, he was with Joe Burrow. He had Chase, he had this and that. Okay, now, turns out he just have been the best receiver in that draft class. And CDs been phenomenal, but JJ's been better, so. But I like that. I like the Peyton Hillis in Cleveland. I like Tebow in Denver. Linked to a comparable in NFL comparison to Lynn Sanity. Chad, what y' all think? Former Buccaneers now free agent Shiloh Sanders was fined $4,669 for unnecessary roughness in the preseason game. And it's Tampa, final preseason game, Ocho versus the Bill. He ain't made that.
- [37:19]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
He got it, though.
- [37:21]
Shannon Sharpe
He. Oh, he owe the NFL.
- [37:22]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
He good. He got it.
- [37:25]
Shannon Sharpe
Nah.
- [37:26]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Oh, he. He got it. He good.
- [37:29]
Shannon Sharpe
They took the man last check, Ocho.
- [37:31]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Nah, he good.
- [37:35]
Shannon Sharpe
Did he. Did he get resigned? Did anybody sign him? Did they resign him to the practice squad?
- [37:39]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
No, because remember, they brought another. Another safety.
- [37:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Well, damn. I was reading that he was doing good, and next thing you know, he not. Damn, I'll show. Hope he can squeeze out a year.
- [38:01]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Yeah.
- [38:02]
Shannon Sharpe
Get a little better time, though.
- [38:04]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Somebody might pick him up still.
- [38:08]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. You know what you're like? I kind of like, want to, because I've been in OTAs. I've been in many camps. I've been in training camps. I kind of know this system. So I want to hit the ground running because I already got a head Start. I don't want to have to learn the system all over again. I'm thinking. I'm. I'm hesitating. I don't know. Like, son, get. I mean, you got to do what you got to do. I mean, hey, you don't have a job and somebody gives you an opportunity, hey, I got to learn on the fly. It's not what I. It's not what I'm used to doing. But you. I'm a fast learner, and that's why you have to look at it. Shiloh said this week that he plans to get into music, acting, modeling after being waved. Whatever he decides to do, I hope it works out for him. You know, it's always nice to have backup plans.
- [38:55]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
You always got. You always got to have a plan B. Always got to have a plan B.
- [39:00]
Shannon Sharpe
I ain't gonna lie with you. I ain't have no plan B.
- [39:03]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
No, you ain't had no choice but to make it.
- [39:06]
Shannon Sharpe
I put all my eggs in one basket and pray I didn't slip on the way to the market to mess up the profit.
- [39:11]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Good one. I like that. I like that.
- [39:14]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I'm just. I'm just be. I'm just being. I'm just being 100 with you. And I'm glad. I went. I went to a perfect situation. I went to a situation, and people ask me this all the time, Shannon, you think? No, no. I went to a team, one of the three teams in the NFL that had the H back position. I went to a coach that saw how hard I worked in practice, even though I didn't know a whole lot, but he saw how hard I worked. And I never really played special team, but. Hey, son, can you play gunner? What's a gunner? I ain't know what no damn gunner was. He's like, you got a line out there. We go. When we punt the ball, you line out there and you got to go. You get. When they snap the ball, you can take off. I was like, I ain't never done it, but I'll try it.
- [39:58]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Yeah.
- [40:00]
Shannon Sharpe
Boom. You up. Play kickoff return, son? No, sir. What I do am I returning the ball? I said, coach, I ain't never ran the ball back. I mean, no. You up here blocking. Oh, okay, I'll do it. You up. Play kickoff. No. What? What? I mean, I gotta go down there. I'm go down there and tackle somebody. It's like, yeah, I said, where I line up at? You know, I'm at. I. They asking me these questions. Don't y' All I don't know, where do I line up? Where we want you to be. You know, you line up. I'm under three. So what I do. Okay, this is your, you know, you on the numbers, you got everything. Anything that come to the numbers and you know, you see the guy coming away, you try to knife it from the backside. Okay. Then I had a quarterback. For some reason, he took a liking to me. I don't know why. He was patient when I was running the wrong routes. He never showed me up. He's like. And when I did something good, he would always tell me, that's like you. He said, you got. You got ability. You can play in this league. You just need to apply yourself. And that gave me so much confidence that he. An mvp, a Pro bowl player, telling a kid from Savannah State that I could play in this league. And I got talent. I got a coach that says, hey, we're gonna find a place for you. I got a quarterback that believed in me. Please. That's all I needed to hear. Ocho also, I believed I could play, but I. But you know what, Ocho, but to hear, to hear, you know, spank telling me, hey, you can do it. Hey, remember, hey, you remember, you went. You. Blah, blah, blah, man. But when John told me that I could play in this league and I could be special, he told me I could be special.
- [41:52]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
That reassurance do something to you, especially. Especially depending on who you hear from. If you hear from, if you're the right person.
- [42:00]
Shannon Sharpe
A seventh round pick, Ocho from hbcu and the quarterback that just came up the super bowl said, you can be special. Boy, you couldn't hit me in the ass with a red apple. I'm talking about a nice shiny one too, man. Please. It.
- [42:20]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Take, it take hearing stuff like that from the right person at the right time, it makes a difference.
- [42:39]
Shannon Sharpe
It'll work out. OO Veteran wide receiver receiver Marquez Valdez Scantling explains why he signed with the 49ers over the Steelers. It was between here and Pittsburgh, obviously. I have a good relationship with average Rogers over there and he wanted me back over there. So it was a toss up. 50. 50. Had to weigh my options to see which one wanted to do which is going to be better for my career at this point. I was excited about it. What you think?
- [43:08]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Oo he picked the 49ers instead?
- [43:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep. I mean, I don't want to read too much into it. He said he had a good relationship. What, he played with Aaron, didn't he, in Green Bay?
- [43:21]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Yeah.
- [43:21]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah.
- [43:25]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
I think. I think you can get more opportunities down there in San Francisco. Iu, Kurt, Ricky Purcell is there. Juwan Jennings, obviously. Marquez, Valdez.
- [43:38]
Shannon Sharpe
It ain't like they loaded in Pittsburgh. They got dk, Calvin Austin, the third. Come on, now.
- [43:47]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
They throw the ball more over there in San Francisco, huh? They thought. They thought they throw the ball way more. I'm not sure what the offense is going to look like in Pittsburgh, but they finna let that thing fly over there in San Francisco.
- [44:05]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, well, not as you mentioned. I mean, he played a number of years with Aaron, but, hey, he said at this point in time in his career, he felt he'd be better served in San Fran. So he's in San Fran in Arnold. College football week. Ocho, do you remember your first college football game?
- [44:25]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Oh, well, damn.
- [44:30]
Shannon Sharpe
Are you talking about Oregon State? You talking about juco? What are we talking about here at juco?
- [44:34]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
I definitely don't remember Oregon State. I forgot who we played week one.
- [44:40]
Shannon Sharpe
So you don't remember?
- [44:41]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
I don't. I don't. Hey, Chad, can somebody look that up?
- [44:45]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Joe, man. Chad, y' all heard this man say. This man said, we asked you, do you remember your first college football game? This man said, I don't remember who we played at Oregon State. So therefore, one would assume or deduce.
- [44:56]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
From that statement, Oregon State, 2000, the year we went to the Fiesta Bowl.
- [45:01]
Shannon Sharpe
We asked you. We ain't asking you.
- [45:02]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
I don't know. I can't remember. That's 26 years ago. That's 26 years ago.
- [45:09]
Shannon Sharpe
Who the organs play 26 years ago, not 2600 years ago.
- [45:13]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
It's about the same. I don't remember anything after five years.
- [45:21]
Shannon Sharpe
We played Buoy State. Buoy State.
- [45:25]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Y' all won.
- [45:27]
Shannon Sharpe
We won.
- [45:28]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Ocho, what you did?
- [45:31]
Shannon Sharpe
Caught a bomb and got walked down into one, Ocho. It was embarrassing. Ocho.
- [45:41]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Oh, hell, no.
- [45:43]
Shannon Sharpe
I caught a bomb. It might have been. I don't know. It might have been like 40, 50 yards. Might have been, I don't know. 36. It was 36, 48. It was a long. I got caught at the one.
- [45:54]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Oh, damn. How you got caught? The safety of the corner.
- [46:00]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know what it was, Ocho. It felt like I. Ocho, I just remember I run it. I ran a goalball on him. I ran and, you know, he was. He thought. I guess he thought I was gonna do something else. I nodded him in. He turned inside, and then I got.
- [46:15]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
On top of it.
- [46:16]
Shannon Sharpe
Quarterback threw it up, just running. I'm like, damn, Ocho, you ever been out there thinking like, damn, this ball.
- [46:22]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Taking a long time. Will you hurry up and cut that damn moon ball?
- [46:26]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I thought he punted it, but anyway, I run it, Ocho. I caught it and I was so excited. I'm like, my first college catch. I'm about to get a touchdown. Damn.
- [46:45]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Hey, now I'm mad. I'm trying to. I want to know who we played my. My first game at Oregon State in 2000 year 2000. I want to know.
- [46:53]
Shannon Sharpe
Same thing called. My first. My first pass in the NFL played the Pittsburgh. I think we played. Who do we. My first catch. The first game we played with the Raiders. I think the first pass that I caught was against the Steelers. I caught it on Delton Hall. Ocho down to the one again. Damn. I had bad little Ocho, man. I caught a pass against the Steelers. I laid out John throwed it. Ocho, I'm talking about parallel catch it. They don't touch me down. I get up running. I cut, break, back cross.
- [47:29]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Yeah.
- [47:31]
Shannon Sharpe
So I got the ball in my left hand. I'm still farming, dude. Like this here, dude hit me in the back. I fumbled the ball in the end zone. My teammate jump over to get a touch. I did. I said, damn. Damn.
- [47:50]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Hey, that's.
- [47:52]
Shannon Sharpe
But I owe y' all done had some bad luck, man. I suppose I had a. Ben had a 200 yard game. I had 120 something yard game against Minnesota. I get a false start penalty, Ocho. I catch it. Catch a. Catch it like a little end, Ocho. I come out the backside. They push me out of the five. I gained like 70. They brought it all illegal, illegal motion on me. Damn, O.J. hey, I mean, I could look. I could look at a picture. I could look at a car and I can tell you the game that I was in.
- [48:37]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Yeah, hey, you know, I could do that. I could. I could do that too.
- [48:40]
Shannon Sharpe
My car.
- [48:40]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Because I. I wore something different. A different helmet, my socks, my cleats. Something was always different. And I'm able to, to. To. To tell exactly what game it was. That's. That's crazy. Oh, they. Hey, Cat said my first game was Eastern Michigan.
- [48:56]
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all win or lose. What you.
- [48:57]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
I don't know. Hey, Chat. What I did against Eastern Michigan in that first game.
- [49:04]
Shannon Sharpe
You had one catch for four yards.
- [49:06]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Me, That's. That's a lie. The devil is a lie. So I. I had one catch in 4. 4 yards. No, it was Eastern Washington. What were my stats? Damn. I only had One catch before. Y' all for real? Yeah.
- [49:38]
Shannon Sharpe
I thought they were talking about me because I told you we played Buoy State. 1986 Savannah State. I think I. I had a bomb. I caught a bomb, Ocho and I got tackled at the one. I don't know how far it was. Chad, how far was it? If you can find it. Damn.
- [50:01]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Hey, hold on. They say one cast for negative four yards.
- [50:06]
Shannon Sharpe
You had negative four.
- [50:10]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Wait a minute.
- [50:11]
Shannon Sharpe
Damn. Were you playing on Oregon State? Are you playing with Eastern Washington?
- [50:15]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
I don't know. What. I don't. I don't know what happened that game. Well, I wish I had the schedule with. If I play. If it was that bad, well, I'm. Nah, something ain't right.
- [50:32]
Shannon Sharpe
Well, ask Chat GPT Ash Savannah State by first game. First game against Buoy State.
- [50:39]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Oh, yeah. I did have one for four. I must.
- [50:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Minus four. Stop trying to add.
- [50:45]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
You tried to add minus four too. And who he played after that. I mean, I can't even remember college. At what point?
- [50:52]
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know. We're not going to the second game. We asked you about the first game.
- [50:56]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Yeah, I mean, at some point I had. I had to start cutting up. Hey. Because I was. I was hella Oregon State. Boy. It had me a good. I had me a good old time. You gotta remember I was a one for one, huh? That was it. This was my time to shine on the big stage.
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Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
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Shannon Sharpe
Who was third in yard yards per catch? How many yards per catch you average, Ocho? You'll see. One year you have a thousand.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
That year I ate some eight and some change.
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Shannon Sharpe
They got my stats. Ocho. You had one catch for one yard. They go, damn, why they even throw you the ball? And then you had one carry for minus four.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Hey, hey, we had, we had, we had a. We had a nice squad too. We had a nice squad.
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm. I'm gonna get my stats. I know, I know. I had one cat and I know.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
21.6 yards per catch. Yeah, who you.
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Shannon Sharpe
Because I average. I averaged 21.2 my senior year. I had 61 catching for 1312 yards and 18 tubs in nine games. There you go. I'm gonna go and put that out there for yo. And nine had three 200 yard games.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Damn. Hey, I think Oregon State playing right now, I think we losing too.
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Shannon Sharpe
Well, I know y' all lost that first game with them stats you put up.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
We won. We won. Remember? We. We didn't lose. We were undefeated until Beat U Dub. We lost U Dub by a field goal. And we played in the Fiesta Bowl. We almost. We were undefeated, though.
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Shannon Sharpe
I think y' all beat Notre Dame in the Fiesta.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
41 9. 41 9.
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Shannon Sharpe
Where your ring at?
- [55:30]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
I lost it. I lost it.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ocho. What? If it's in that storage unit? You gonna get it back? It might be worth something.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
I'm good. Good. Now we need it.
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Shannon Sharpe
All right, Ocho. Start, bench, cut Florida. Ride receivers. High school careers. Michael Irving, Andre Johnson, and Quan Boulder. Okay. Irvin was an all state selection the senior season. Had just done a thousand yards, 12 touchdowns in 1983. As a senior, Johnson called 32 passes. 939 yards. 931 yards. And with name Parade All America, Anquan was Mr. Football in the state of Florida. Became the first player in Florida high school history to go over 11,000 yards in his prep career. Well, I know who we keep it. But Q was a quarterback. They moved into wide receiver at Florida State.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
I see. Hey, listen, I seen. I seen. You said Andre Johnson, right? I seen Drake play. I've seen Drake play at Miami High. Man, Dre was the real deal.
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Shannon Sharpe
I mean, almost the average, damn near 30 yards.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
The real deal. You know who else went to Miami High? Remember Roscoe Parish? Roscoe Parish went to the high, too.
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Shannon Sharpe
He played it. He was at Cleveland. Didn't he play at Cleveland?
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Roscoe was at Buffalo.
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Shannon Sharpe
You know what? You right, Ocho. Because I remember he had go. I was doing the highlights at cbs, and Roscoe, he scored a touchdown. I said, roscoe. You know? Cause y'. All. Roscoe. Oh, the Dukes of Hazard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But no Q. Q was Mr. Football in the state of Florida. If you missed the football in the state of California, Texas, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Ohio.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Yeah, you that boy. Are you that boy.
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Shannon Sharpe
Now, there's some state. Hey, you missed the football in Montana. I'm sorry. Or you missed the football in Wyoming. Ocho, I'm sorry. But if you. Especially the big. California, Texas, Florida and Georgia. If you put the football in one of those folks, now, those are the big four. Now, we'll throw Louisiana. We'll throw IO in there. You know, a couple of. But the big four. Georgia, Florida, Texas, Cali.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Whoo.
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Shannon Sharpe
You did something. I mean, you. You. You've really done something. All right, Ocho, we're gonna get you out here on this one final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Hey, hey, Chat. Be very excited because what time is it right now? But no, what time is it on the east coast?
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Shannon Sharpe
Almost 120.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Okay. I got about eight more hours. Arsenal Arsenal play Liverpool.
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yeah. I'm gonna be sleep. Cameron Norwood Jr. Said, Man, how you feeling after Texas loss? I was pulling for Texas, but it just didn't work out, man. I. Look, I wanted. I like Sark, but I wasn't like, I'm gonna lose any sleep. I'm gonna. Give me a good night's sleep. Dad, I don't care who lost today, man. We got beat, too. Hell, I'm gonna sleep. Savannah State, we got the brakes beat off. Hell, yeah.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
I think Edward Tammy lost the Howard 10, 9.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, Burns coaching at Howard, man, I think we lost like 41 14. Who y' all played? I think Edward Waters. Edward Waters in Jacksonville. Right.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Well, that's a. That's a small hbcu, huh?
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Shannon Sharpe
I guess. No. Stuff we did. Look, all these schools that's having it, that be Savannah State. Just know y' all ain't do nothing when I was there. I don't know what happened now, but I'm just saying, when I was there. So all y' all talking, y' all be jumping about, jumping in, chat about we beat y'. All. We beat y'.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
All.
- [59:43]
Shannon Sharpe
Not when I was there. Fort Valley, Albany, Morehouse, Tuskegee, all y' all talking. Stop. The only one that can brag is Alabama A and M. Cause I never beat them in three years. My four years, we played. Lost to them all three times. So everybody else, don't make me pull the tape out.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Well, you still got that VHS tape?
- [60:07]
Shannon Sharpe
Nah, I think Basil. I think Po got it. Morehouse, More Mo Brown, Clark, Fort Valley, Skee. Albany State gave everybody that work. I don't wanna hear y' all say nothing.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
I got. I got to see the film.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ocho. It was.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
I know I gotta see the film because you might be giving me that Al Bundy story.
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Shannon Sharpe
Nah, bro. Bro. So think about it. If I did what I did in the NFL, what you think I did at hbcu, I mean, I was the same size. You do realize I was £225 as a senior.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
I gotta see the footage.
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Shannon Sharpe
But I would cut, though. I would cut.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Duh.
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Shannon Sharpe
Adele from EL said Arch Manning played like hard garbage. He cost his team the game. Not saying he can't improve, but this is his third year at Texas. I know something. When he couldn't beat out Quinn Ewers, fans blame Stark play calling. But he was protecting Arch in his play calling. Cause he looked terrible. Defense kept him in. It gave Arch a chance, right? Right to the wrong. But he blew it. I blame sports analysts, especially Paul Finebomb. Said Arch is the best quarterback since Tim Tebow. Bro. Do you realize how many quarterbacks have been better? Cam, Joe Burrow, Andrew Luck, Baker Mayfield, Kyler.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
You purposely didn't say any of them names. Now.
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Shannon Sharpe
He'S the best. The Lord of Mercy.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Jeez.
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Shannon Sharpe
Bryce Young. Lord have mercy. They now you know. Yeah, well, before Tebow. Tebow came out in what, 2009. So every quarterback from. From basically 2010, he said arch Manning is better. So he's better than Cam, better than Andrew Luck, better than Joe Burns.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Come on now. Now you made me take my glasses off.
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Shannon Sharpe
Better than Baker Mayfield, better than Kyler Murray, bro. Bryce Young. Yes. Look, he's in his third year, but this is really only like it. This. He's really like a freshman because it only started like four games and he's playing. He's starting against teams that, you know, it doesn't matter who is the quarterback. Texas was going to win those games, so now he's starting and they're going to be meaningful games. They're going to have to go, you know, who, who what? What's Texas schedule looking like? Are they still doing the Red River Rivalry? Okay, so you got Oklahoma.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
So you got three crowd games.
- [63:08]
Shannon Sharpe
San Jose, Utah, San Pesto. The name.
- [63:12]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Florida, Oklahoma, Kentucky, Mississippi, Bandy, Georgia, Arkansas.
- [63:18]
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, so we'll find out a lot about him. They got Georgia. I mean, they got. They got some games they should win. They got three games. Oo, they should win easily. Hell, you or I could be quarterback, and we probably win those games with Mia, you or I at quarterback. But, you know, they got Georgia, they got A and M on their schedule. They got some, you know, Florida, Oklahoma. So we'll find out a little more. Dragon, the abandoner. Forget Arch. This freshman at Cal, this freshman quarterback at Cal is insane.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Who did Cal. Wait, first of all, who did Cal play today?
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Shannon Sharpe
He said he's insane.
- [63:58]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
So I guess I need to know who they play first before we think he's insane based on the competition he had to play against.
- [64:08]
Shannon Sharpe
Pull it. We're trying to pull it up to see what this, this quarterback at Cal that everybody be talking that he's. That Dragon is talking about. He better threw for 500. At least 500. Yeah. Oh, they playing your team. They playing Oregon State. How many. How many yards he done threw for, lady?
- [64:52]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
20, 29 touchdowns.
- [64:57]
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, they, they, they. They cooking y' all that.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Hey, that's quarterback.
- [65:04]
Shannon Sharpe
31. 9. 31 to 9. Y' all losing. They got a whole lot y' all got.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Because it's week one, that's all.
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Shannon Sharpe
It's week one for them, too. So ain't like if y' all week one for y', all. It is week 10 for everybody.
- [65:19]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Ain't losing no more games this year. I could tell you that.
- [65:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Probably not gonna win anymore either. Big Mike said, un respect. Winners gonna win. That's what we do, bro. That's what we do. True speaks 101 said. I believe the NFL is coming for Coach prime son. I. I think the thing is, guys, is that we got to realize his son's not him. I think we. We want Shiloh to be the equivalent of his dad at safety. We want Shadow to be the equivalent of his dad at quarterback. And it's just not going to happen. It's just not going. The Lord has really never blessed anybody that the father and son was, you know, maybe Bobby hall and Brett hall, but for the most part, you're not fitting to get Barry Bonds Jr. And Barry Bond Jr. Being here. King Griffey Jr. And Queen Griffey Senior. You're not gonna get that guy.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
That's difficult.
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Shannon Sharpe
Very difficult. Do y' all understand? Do y'. All. So God. Did you just want God to just, like, just. Just dump all the talent in this family? Here, Y' all just. Here, just take it. Brothers, possibly, but Father, son. So y'. All guess y' all expect Brady's son to be equivalent to him, huh?
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
That's a lot of pressure, man.
- [67:04]
Shannon Sharpe
Come on. I go pick me another sport. I ain't playing football. If I do play football, damn sure ain't play a quarterback. The John Donald said, who's gonna have a better season between Bryce Underwood and Arch Manning?
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
I mean, it's gonna be. That's gonna be.
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm gonna have to watch the young man play. Bucket called me and told me that he was playing pretty well, but I was kind of focused on the game that we're talking about. There'll be a time that we're going to talk about the young man, and so I'll make sure I pay attention to him because I don't want to say, well, he yada, yada, yada, and not having seen anything that he's done. Ocho, so. So I apologize for that, Chad, But Ocho and I take a look at him in the coming weeks because obviously we're going to talk about him when they play Ohio State, but we want to have a discussion about him before we get to that point. So. Sorry, I can't even give you a fair assessment who's Going to have a better season. I watched Arch. I have not seen Bryce Underwood, but I'll get that. Yeah, Finn's NJ said. Ocho, did Carson Palmer ever call you out?
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Yeah. Hell yeah. I told the story on here. Remember I told you we were playing. We were playing the Steelers, and I think a ball forgot what it was. Ball might have been too far somewhere, and I couldn't get to it. And I took my chin strap and snapped it. Walking back to the huddle, man, partial was like, if you ever show me up like that again, you'll never get another ball.
- [68:46]
Shannon Sharpe
That's what he does.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Hey, he knew the camera. He knew the camera was on me. Yeah, that was one time. We never. We never.
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Shannon Sharpe
John. All that. All that stuff like this.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Hands up and all that. Yeah. Yeah. I really. I really. I really. I really did that, though. I really did that one time. I was. I was trying to get that ball. Boy.
- [69:13]
Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, which team would win if they played against each other? 2016 Chino Hills, Jello, Mellow and Lonzo or 2020 Montverde Academy, who's on the 2020 Mount Verde team? And he got a question. If you put Miami's 2001 Miami defense and that defense, how many game. Wow.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Who was it? Who on there?
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Shannon Sharpe
Chino Hill's team was Lonzo, Melo and Jello against Jalen Durden, Ryan Nemhardt and Jalen Hood's Cafino. If you put the 2001 Miami defense and the 2019 LSU offense on one team, how many NFL games could they win?
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Zero.
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Shannon Sharpe
If they're in the NFL or you talking about in college.
- [70:21]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Zero.
- [70:23]
Shannon Sharpe
Zero, bro. Y' all got us. We're not gonna have this conversation, man. I'm not gonna get my blood pressure up. Cause people actually think that a college team. Okay?
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Not a chance in hell.
- [70:37]
Shannon Sharpe
OJ OG underscore. Thanos said. Is Kaylin DeBoer already on the hot seat? And so. Yeah, absolutely, Ocho. That's Alabama.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
They played Florida State.
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Shannon Sharpe
That man has lost four to four unranked teams in two years. Coach Saban ain't lose that many in two decades.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
I mean.
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Shannon Sharpe
Ocho, you have to understand. And what do they. What. What do they have at Alabama?
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
The standard is a standard. I understand that. I understand that.
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Shannon Sharpe
J1Cal said, how great would Georgia be if they had both Jeremiah Smith and Ryan Williams? They thought about. I thought. I think Ryan Smith thought about going to Ohio State, didn't he? I thought him and Jeremiah thought about teaming up. And in that last second, he ended up Going to Alabama. Are both of them jokers on the same team?
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Who the quarterback? How about that? Let me get a quarterback.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Where is the quarterback from who? Who's the quarterback?
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
That's the problem.
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Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Oh. MSQ said. How did both the Mavericks and the Cowboys manage to trade away Luca and Micah in the same year? Got a feel for Dallas? Well, hey, I don't know, but look, if AD can stay healthy, they did get Cooper Flag with the number one overall pick. Kyrie probably not going to come back until after in 2026. So maybe January, February. If he plays this season, Kyrie's going to want to be healthy. And so. And I understand that, but Luca. No, Michaels. I think Luca is more of a. If I had to say, more of a transcendent generational transfer, transformative player. Guys like Luca don't come around, man. Come on. I mean, Micah is maybe. Is no maybe. Micah is a top three or four player at his position. Luke is a top five player in the NBA regardless of position. Skeezy Ca said. Who wins a wrestling match, Unc or Ocho? Ocho, you don't know how to wrestle.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
I trained with Khabib for two years, man. I trained with Kabee when he was Preparing for Conor McGregor. What are you talking about, man?
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Shannon Sharpe
Oh, y' all angle pick you and it's over.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
But I put you in a guillotine and choke you out, man. Don't do that, man. This is what I. Oh, so you.
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Shannon Sharpe
Can'T talk nobody out in wrestling? I said wrestling, not MMA wrestling.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
Oh, okay. My bad, my bad. Because that. My ground game is phenomenal. My ground, you know, I'm.
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Shannon Sharpe
I'm just Ocho. Oh, yo, I will pin you, Ocho. Brody White said, what made you hop on the phone and call the National Guard kind of fans in New England was being unruly. We were beating the brakes off him, too. And, you know, we had come out of the game, we was up. We ahead. I think it was like probably like 10 minutes in the ball game. We were up like 31 to seven or something. And Mike said, that's it. And it was like, sharp Colts is better than you. At the time, Ben Coates was on the. Was on. On the. On the Patriots and Ben. And I was, you know, like I said, I had known Ben since college. I was. He was the only person that I showed around on a visit when they came to Savannah State. I recommend that he not come if he wanted to play his freshman season. And so he ended up going to Livingston and coach Davis said, damn, Holmes, I ain't gonna have you show nobody around. You got them going someplace else. I said, coach, I couldn't lie to him. I said, coach, are you going to move me to tight end? He said, yes. I said, do you think he could beat me out? No. But he said, lie to him. We got to get. We got to get good players. So my bad. I ain't no. So the fans were. They were on me saying coach was better than me. And then we were beating them. So I was like, you know what? I just picked up the phone. It just. The red phone. Cause you already heard that the President had a red phone. Ain't nobody ever seen it. But they said the President got a red phone. I'm like, damn. So I was like, hey, red phone. All the phones on the bench is red, Ocho. You know what I'm saying? Behind the is red. So I just like, hey, just picked the phone up and. And I hung the phone up and it rang back. That's what really sold it, Ocho. I was like, pretty chill, like I was talking before. Mr. President, hey, we need as many men as you can spare. Cause we are killing the Patriots. So I need you to call these dogs off, please. So I hung the phone up, say, hey, help is on the way. And then the phone rings back, and NFL Films captured that moment. It was. It blew up from there. They didn't. They weren't very pleased with it. Mr. Kraft told me. He said he wasn't very happy with me at that time. Lawrence said, finishing up with the Cowboys docuseries. It crystallizes everything you've been saying about Jerry. Enlighten the chat. What else you guys may know. I don't know too much. I just know Jerry. I just know Jerry is Jerry. I don't. I don't know. Creatures are. They do what they do. Eagles and falcons, offspring. They're birds of prey. What do they do? They're gonna hunt. That's what they're gonna do. They're gonna hunt. And you can't break them of that habit. Jerry has been who he's been. You're not gonna break him of that habit. He just said he wish he had done things differently and blah, blah, blah. And come to find out at the end of the day, this is who Jerry is. It served him well in business. It served him well. He's wealthy Beyond. There's worth 12, 13, 14. I don't know, $15 billion. Way more money than he'll spend in his kids. Kids. Kid. I mean, kids. Kids, kids. Kids won't be able to spend all the money. But this is Jerry J. Say Shannon Bartholomew Sharp. Uncle Rico Law said, referring back to the topic about people staying together for the kids. You right, Unc. And it's our people for sure. I'm trying to grow together when I feel like she's continuously trying to grow apart. Any advice? Bro, I ain't. You don't want no advice from me about women. No, I'm not. I can't. I can't next year. No, no, no. Joy. I need about 18 months. Give me 18 months, Ocho, and I'm back. You know, right now they revoked my license. Oh, yo, they took my license. They took my marriage license. I had a license. I was constantly covered.
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Unc (Guest/Co-host)
You're good. You good.
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Shannon Sharpe
Listen, give me 18 months. Chad, that's too long.
- [78:03]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
That's too long. It's too long.
- [78:06]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, next year. What about next year?
- [78:08]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
This time next year.
- [78:10]
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, okay. Okay. 2026. 2026, we start a new year. Yep.
- [78:14]
Unc (Guest/Co-host)
You can say whatever you want.
- [78:16]
Shannon Sharpe
Yep. Yeah. But right there, right now, Lon, I. I get it, you know, but you know, they took my license right now and I don't want to get them. I'm trying to get them back. So 2026, I'm gonna have my license back. So anybody that need to need some advice. Now, Ocho, you know I can't practice publicly but if you come over, I could all. I'll offer you some. I offer you some advice. Lucky Lucas say don't sleep on Jerry led. He earned over $65 million, a nine year career. Also has a lucrative endorsement deals. New York will always love Jeremy Lane. Respect. No question about it. No question about it. Tebow parlayed that has a gig at. I think he still does espn. He does a lot of charitable work. Peyton Hillis. I don't know. Peyton Hills was on the COVID Held up a contract and it just never materialized after that. But yeah, I mean you. The guy went to Harvard, made a name for himself. Made over 65 million. Hey, great career. Great career. Not many can say they they had Lynn Sanity. So that concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank you guys for joining us. We really appreciate you guys tuning in and watching us tonight. Want to thank our guest contributor who will be contributing all college football season during the college football playoffs and beyond bowl games, Johnny Manziel. Please make sure y' all hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. Do us all a favor, go subscribe to the nightcap Podcast feed. Wherever you get your podcast from, we'd like to thank each and every one of you that tuned in tonight. And like you have so many other nights, Ocho and I greatly, greatly appreciate that. Thank you for helping Night Cut Nightcap become the phenomena which is become so thank you again very much. Make sure you check out my Cognac Le Portier. If you cannot find it in a city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. The best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market. Don't take my word for it. Try it. I promise you you will not be disappointed. We have a commemorative edition to celebrate my brother's induction into the Pro Football hall of Fame. He and I are the first two brothers in the Pro Football hall of Fame. And out of respect and my way to honor him, we came up with this commemorative box that you see on your screen. Grab it. Just head over to laportiercognac.com to grab yours. Wild supplies last. Please go follow my media company page on all of his platforms. Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out. Again, thank Johnny Manziel. Look, he's way couple of time zones away and he's like, hey Unc, I'm gonna be there. I'll be there for you guys and I'll be there for you every single week. So I want to thank Johnny for first of all, being a guest contributor for the college football season. And y' all go make sure y' all check out his podcast YouTube channel. Glory days with Johnny Manziel. That's G L O r y D A Z E. Glory Days with Johnny Manziel. I'm Unc, he's Ocho. We'll see you tomorrow after the game. Thank you guys. Please.
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