Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Justin Jefferson returning to practice after 25 days!

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap Hour 2 – Unc & Ocho React to Justin Jefferson Returning to Practice after 25 Days!

Date: August 19, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe
Co-host: Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)
Podcast: Club Shay Shay by iHeartPodcasts and Shay Shay Media

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Episode Overview

This lively Nightcap episode centers on Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson ("Ocho Cinco") reacting to Justin Jefferson’s much-anticipated return to Vikings practice after 25 days out with a hamstring injury. The duo also dives into NFL culture, old-school vs. modern coaching, the impact of star players on franchise decisions, classic NFL nicknames, the shifting nature of offenses, “golden age” NFL debates, and plenty of playful banter. The episode feels candid, full of on-field anecdotes, hot takes, and the unique chemistry between two outspoken NFL legends.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Cam Ward and Jeffrey Simmons Practice Scuffle

• [02:32] Shannon brings up a “scuffle” between rookie QB Cam Ward and DT Jeffrey Simmons during practice. Ocho frames it as positive “camaraderie", noting, “It’s all camaraderie...I think it’s going to pay off, pay dividends when they have to play against somebody else.”
• [03:37] Shannon asks if Ocho would react calmly to a two-hand shove to the facemask:
  • Ocho: “No, no, no, no, no. We’re gonna have a little fun.”
  • Both emphasize the difference between true animosity and competitive, light-hearted camp spats.

2. Coach Prime's Old-School Discipline

• [04:11] Discussion of Deion Sanders’ strict policy punishing any player who hits the QB in practice: stair runs, "old school" consequences.
  • Ocho is all for it: “People want to go play for Deion Sanders...You understand the discipline that he expects out of you to be at your best...if it takes running stadium stairs...so be it.”
  • Shannon agrees it’s necessary for football culture, especially for preparing players for the pros.

3. The NFL's “Golden Age”: Close Games & Offensive Explosion

• [05:16] Sharpe frames the current era as the NFL’s "golden age":
  • “No blowouts. The games are coming down to the end. You know, it’s a one score game. That’s all. That’s what we looking for.”
• Talks about increased percentage of games decided by 7 points or fewer (49% in 2020–24, up from 39% in ’70–’74).
• Ocho notes current offensive parity, more fun for fans, and a deliberate league shift to boost excitement.
• [07:31] Shannon points out salary dynamics: “I’m not paying Joe Burrow no. $55 million...to have him turn around and hand the ball off 35 times.”
  • Football, like MLB and NBA, is now structurally designed to favor scoring.

4. Best NFL Nicknames of All Time

• [11:03] Draft Kings’ list of best player nicknames – Sharpe runs through a lineup from "Honey Badger" to "Megatron".
  • Ocho claims he embodied the greatest nickname: “I really embodied what it meant to have a nickname by actually changing my name...from a branding, marketing aspect.”
  • Notable moment: Ocho on his own legacy, “Hell, I ain’t took a snap in goddamn 30 some years. But these are all.”

5. Justin Jefferson Returns to Practice

• [14:47] News: Justin Jefferson participates in Vikings practice after 25 days recovering from hamstring injury.
  • Shannon: “He continues to recover...He has a history of hamstring injuries...Do expect to start week one.”
  • Ocho and Shannon speculate on soft tissue injuries, imbalances, and possible quad or hip dominance issues.
  • [16:11] Ocho: “I’m GLAD he took 25 days and they went slow with him...I don’t want him having to go from 0 to 100.”
  • Shannon underscores the Vikings’ need, given injuries/off-field issues elsewhere, warning: “You could ill afford...a guy coming back from a soft tissue injury, he...retweaks it.”

6. Quarterback Class Debates: 2018 vs 2020

• [23:11] Social media debate—who had the best QB draft class?
  • 2018: Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, Jackson
  • 2020: Burrow, Herbert, Tua, Hurts, Love
  • Shannon: “You got three MVPs...in one draft class, and...a guy that's been to the Super Bowl and a guy that's been to the Super Bowl twice...It’s harder than you think.”
  • Ocho leans 2020: “I like it a lot. I got to go with Jalen simply because he got what everybody is yearning for and the ultimate goal.”
  • Sharpe reminisces about the legendary 1983 class (Elway, Kelly, Marino) but notes modern classes may have more MVPs.

7. All-Time Running Back Duos

• [32:08] Debate: All Day (Adrian Peterson) & “Sweetness” (Walter Payton) vs. Jim Brown & Edgerrin James, Barry Sanders & Marshall Faulk, LaDainian Tomlinson & Emmitt Smith.
  • Ocho picks Payton & Peterson: “AD and Sweetness is really basically the same back.”
  • Shannon counters with Barry & Marshall, dreaming about Barry Sanders in today's “spread” offenses: “Can you imagine Barry with this spread?”

8. Cleveland Browns and Flacco Named Starter

• [35:18] News: Browns will carry four QBs, Joe Flacco named week 1 starter.
  • Shannon: “You surprised they gonna carry this many quarterbacks?”
  • Ocho: “This is rare, but I understand the problem they're having...At any point when Joe Flacco is not playing well, we know what he can do.”
• Both joke Flacco might have “a 5-6 game winning streak...then the bottom's gonna fall out.”

9. NFL Organizations’ Reluctance to Draft a Successor QB

• [37:51] List of teams with most QBs used since 2020; discussion pivots to why teams don’t plan better for post-franchise QB life (Saints, Colts, Giants, etc.).
  • Shannon: “When you have a quarterback like a Breeze...they're so good for so long…the last thing you want to do is tick them off by taking a quarterback early to be the bridge.”
  • Ocho: Agrees on challenge of moving on from legends.

10. NFL Relaxing Celebration Penalties

• [39:55] League will no longer penalize for the “bow and arrow” celebration.
  • Ocho: “Let them have some fun...By all means. As long as you don’t do any gestures that have to do with these...”
  • Shannon prefers fun minus the old “throat slash” or “six shooters.”

11. Cam Newton’s Number Retired at Auburn

• [41:10] Cam Newton honored with retired #2 by Auburn. Ocho and Shannon reflect on his college dominance and speculate why Carolina hasn’t given him due recognition.
  • Shannon: “Why won’t Carolina show that man the love that Auburn is showing?”
  • Ocho: “Especially for a quarterback of that magnitude that did the things he did for the Carolina Panthers.”
  • Sharpe: “Congratulations, Cam. Very deserving. I can make a case that’s the greatest college season for a quarterback.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ocho on Cam Ward/Jeffrey Simmons Scuffle:

  “Because it’s nothing serious…It’s all camaraderie…It’s cool. It’s going to pay off, pay dividends when they have to play against somebody else.”
  — Ocho Cinco [02:56]

• Shannon on NFL Offenses:

  “I’m not paying Joe Burrow no $55 million...to have him turn around and hand the ball off 35 times a game.”
  — Shannon Sharpe [07:56]

• Ocho on His Nickname:

  “I really embodied what it meant to have a nickname by actually changing my name and reinventing myself...That character has carried me years beyond the game of football.”
  — Ocho Cinco [12:33]

• Shannon on the NFL's Golden Age:

  “No blowouts. The games are coming down to the end. You know, it’s a one score game. That’s all we looking for.”
  — Shannon Sharpe [05:59]

• Ocho on Justin Jefferson's Recovery:

  “I’m GLAD he took 25 days and they went slow with him...I don’t want him having to go from 0 to 100…”
  — Ocho Cinco [16:11]

• Shannon on Legendary 1983 QB Draft:

  “That’s ten Super Bowl appearances...I don’t think these classes gonna catch that, Ocho.”
  — Shannon Sharpe [28:10]

• Ocho On Picking All-Time RB Duos:

  “AD and Sweetness is really basically the same back.”

• Shannon on Barry Sanders:

  “Can you imagine Barry with this spread…with nickel defense on the field…You’ll never see another back like him.” — [34:33]

• On Cam Newton at Auburn:

  “Congratulations, Cam. Very deserving. I can make a case, that’s the greatest college season for a quarterback.”
  — Shannon Sharpe [42:40]

• Fun Bickering About Ocho's Sickness:

  • “You told me, right, Chat. Y’all done heard this man say, eating a Big Mac...he don’t get sick. I just tried to figure out what’s really going on.”
    — Shannon [19:32]
  • “Technically, I’m not sick...This is a minor setback.”
    — Ocho [19:46]

• Audience Q&A - “Receipt” Moments:

  • Ocho: “Brian Russell when he was with the Cleveland Browns.” [45:45]
  • Shannon: “Brian Cox when he’s with the Jets…knocked me out cold.” [45:23]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:11] – Practice scuffles, Cam Ward, and team camaraderie
• [04:11] – Coach Prime’s punishment for hitting QBs, old-school discipline
• [05:16] – Are we in the NFL’s golden age? Closer games, offensive focus
• [07:31] – Salary trends, passing league, why run games get less attention
• [11:03] – Greatest NFL nicknames
• [14:47] – Justin Jefferson injury, soft tissue discussion
• [23:11] – QB draft class debate: 2018 vs. 2020 & legendary 1983 class
• [32:08] – Best all-time NFL running back duos
• [35:18] – Cleveland Browns, Joe Flacco named starter, rarity of carrying 4 QBs
• [37:51] – Why teams wait too long to draft next franchise QB
• [39:55] – NFL changes celebration penalty rules
• [41:10] – Auburn retires Cam Newton’s number, legacy talk
• [44:09] – Q&A: Audience jokes, “receipt” anecdotes

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Tone & Style

The conversation is fast, candid, and rooted in the friendship and rivalry between Unc & Ocho. The episode is full of competitive banter, insider locker-room talk, and strong opinions, with plenty of humor and nostalgia. It’s perfect for fans who enjoy both hard-hitting NFL analysis and lighthearted, real talk between legends.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode offers a blend of sharp football analysis (especially on player health, coaching, and changing NFL strategies), debates about history and culture within the league, and classic storytelling from two of the game’s most colorful personalities. The show is packed with moments both serious and hilarious, making it a great listen for anyone interested in the current NFL landscape, player legacies, and the evolving nature of football culture.

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[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Hey. Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

You heard me. Hey. I got. Right now, I got chills. Chills on the inside. You know what I'm talking about? Mm. I got the AC off, but I'm cold on the inside. And that. That's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh. So we. I talked about this a little earlier, but while you was trying to connect.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cam Ward gets into a scuffle with Jeffrey Simmons at camp. I like touchdown pass to Calvin Ridley towards the End of practice and went over to celebrate. The rookie quarterback stopped and gave Simmons a shove before doing his trademark zombie land celebration in front of him. Simmons reacted with a two hand shove to War's face mask. The offensive line came running to Ward's defense. You like the Cam Ward picking a fight with Jeffrey Simmons? Yeah, absolutely.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Because it's nothing serious. It's nothing serious they've been going at the past two weeks. No, there was an altercation between Jeffrey Simmons and Cam Ward earlier in camp I think when the defense must have been beaten up on him real, real good and Cam got back at him. So them having fun going back and forth, I mean it's cool, it's cool. It's all, it's all, it's all camaraderie, you know and I, I think it's going to pay off, pay dividends when they have to play against somebody else. Obviously Cam wars look phenomenal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let me ask you a question. Drake Kirkpatrick shivers you2 hands shivers you to your face mask. You cool? You walking back to the huddle?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah. I don't think he did it at heart. Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just asked you a simple question. The man two hands shivers you to your face mask. Are you just turning around walking to the huddle? It's a simple yes or no.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

No, no, no, no, no. We're gonna have a little fun. You have to understand that there's a report there and obviously when you see it, you understand, okay, that's light hearted. That's the two boys going at it. As far as from a competing standpoint, not I'm shoving your face trying to knock your head off. Is it different?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, look here. That's a D lineman. Anything a D lineman do. Yeah, because think about, think about the moves they use to get to try to beat the offensive line. But oh yeah. Oh, hold on.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Hey, this is just not any D lineman.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This is the yeah of your preeminent dt.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yes. Yeah, they, they listen they've been going at it all camp so.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All right, we got have one another one coach. Prime punishment for any player that hits the quarterback. For players who violate the rule, consequences range from up down the stadium runs oo this old school way of coaching. Considering the nil guys jumping in and out of transfer portal, it's getting harder and harder to coach players because hey, you talk, you talk sideways to me. I'm up out of here. You think this will work with coach? Work with time?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Hey, absolutely, absolutely. Because I, I don't listen even, even if players can jump in even if players can jump in the portal, people want to go play for Deion Sanders. This is Deion Sanders. This is Deion Sanders. So you understand what that comes with. You understand the discipline that he expects out of you to be at your best. So if it comes down to having a run. Goddamn stadium stairs. If you hit the quarterback, then so be it. Because if you get into a game, if you do it in practice, then you're gonna do it in the game. So if it takes running the stadium stairs and doing whatever else you need to do to get that out of your system, like Shamar Stewart with Joe Burrow last week, so be it. Because they're not going to tolerate it the next level. So don't tolerate it here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I agree. Ocho, Are we living in the golden age of the National Football League? Percentage of games decided by seven points of viewer. The historic average is around 45, about 46%. Look at where it is now.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

39. Now when we talk about these averages.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, from 1970 to 74, right, it was 39.23%. 20 to 24. It's almost 49. That's almost a 10 tick up.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Wait, that's. That's a good thing, ain't it?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Okay. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. It's the golden age.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No blowouts. The games are coming down to the end. You know, it's a one score game. That, that's all. That's what we looking for. We looking for one score game. Not that. What we saw in the Super Bowl.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Oh, I, you know, you know, it's funny, I, I don't, I don't think. We don't have any, any more teams around right now that are able to dominate offensively week in and week out where they're going to be blowouts. Even though, even though the, the NFL in general is favored for the offense. Yeah, that's. It was done on purpose. Make the games a little bit more fun to allow the points to be.

[Shannon Sharpe]

A lot of people like points.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Hey, yeah, no different than home runs in baseball.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I ain't going look here. Then they change will say oo in baseball, people, the pur say, man, I want to see a one nothing ball game. I want to see a 12 11. That's what I want to see with home runs. You know, NBA people want to see 133 to 130. Ain't nobody trying to say, I remember the game used to be 77, 72.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, four quarters now you got guys going 70 points by themselves when the team in four quarters couldn't get to 70. So point they've made it more conducive.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because now you look at. You look at baseball, home runs this going this way, batting average going that way, strikeouts going this way. But they want to see the ball go over the fence.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Basketball, they want to see the ball go in the hoop. That's why they keep jacking up threes in football. They won't scoring.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah. So that's why they handicap the defense too, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Protect the quarterback, protect the receiver.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Entice them to throw the football. Cause if I'm paying a guy 60 million, I'm paying the. I'm paying the wide receiver 40 me. Think about it. The highest paid running back is basically making $20 million less than the highest paid wide receiver. So. So what does that tell you to try to do? Oh, throw the damn ball.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And your quarterback making 60. 55. 60. I'm not paying Joe Burrow no. $55 million. Turn it right. To have him turn around and hand the ball off 35 times a game. Oo. I'm not doing it. I'm sorry.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

And you understand why he's in the gun 98% of the time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. So that's what the league wants to see. But I'm glad. Unless somebody, you know, you turn the ball over. Now you turn the ball over. Ooh. The game can get out of hand like we saw with Kansas City in the Super Bowl. But normally if it's not, if it's a, you know, team. That right there. Comparable.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

You gonna get. You gonna get a good game. You're gonna get a good game. But I do think we're in the golden. We're gonna get the. The golden era of Football. Ocho DraftKings been the NFL team of the best nicknames of all time. Who should be added? Okay, you got the Honey Badger. Tyron Matthew, you got a Ted Hendricks. Who is the Mad Stork? Sean Merriman, Lights out. You got Hacksaw. Jack Reynolds. You got the Tasmanian Devil. You got the assassin. Jack Tatum. You got prime. You got Ed2 Tall Jones. You got the fridge. William Perry. You got the kitchen. Nate Newton. You got the minister of defense, Reggie White, rest his soul. Dick Knight, turn Lane, rest his soul. And then you got Andre. Bad Moon Rising. You got Big Phil. Highway 63. Gene Upshaw, Bag of donuts, Pork Chop, the intellectual Assassin. I don't know nothing about him. Megatron. Megatron got a coup. Legotron Beast Mode, Broadway Joe, the Face Cleaver and the Avatar.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Is that Jimmy Graham as Avatar?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Yes.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

I mean, listen, all these NFL nicknames are good. They're all good, but we all know who the best nickname is of all time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They ain't got you up there, Ocho. Oh, that's defense. I guess we gotta ask them. No, they got offense, they got offensive. Yeah. Andre Rising.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bad Moon.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah. They. They had nicknames, but I really. I really embodied what it meant to have a nickname by actually changing my name and reinventing myself in the private. My career. That's from a. That was from a branding, marketing aspect, so. Which makes it obviously the greatest nickname of all time because I really bought in to the character in general. And that character in general has carried me years beyond the game of football. Hell, I ain't took a snap in goddamn 30 some years. But these are all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, I like.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

I like the Intellectual Assassin. Who is that? That played for the Chargers?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Is that Ron Mix?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

The Intellectual Assassin. That's a good one. And you know, they don't even have. They don't. I mean, they don't have Walter Pay. They don't got sweetness on them. Intellectual say. But hey, listen, Ocho Cinco. I mean, it. It speaks for itself. Greatest nickname of all time. Because I actually. I was 85. And when it changed the name. Huh? Understand, I saw a vision. Like, when I do spoken word, there's a vision, there's a big long term where if you're not. If you're not in deep thought with me, you're not gonna understand it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who? The Intellectual Assassin. I ain't never heard of him. I mean, Bambi.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Who was Bambi?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Which? Lance Allworth.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

When is what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Chargers.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Okay, okay, okay. Oh, he did. He ran. He ran like. He ran like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was. Jack Katum was the Assassin. Yeah, yeah. No, the Intellectual Assassin. The charges. He was. The charges. John. Jack Taylor rested, so he's out of Ohio State. I thought it was Ryan Mix. I think he played. I think Ocho. I think he played like 12 years and had two holding penalties in 12 years.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

That's it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Thank you. That's exactly what I said. Jenna. Justin Jefferson returns to practice, first time in 25 days. He continues to recover from a left hamstring strain he suffered last month. He has a history of hamstring injuries. He missed seven games in 2023 because of a hamstring strain to the other leg prompted the Vikings to take a slow approach to his recovery today. He participated in warmups, individual drills, but sat out 7 on 7 and 11 on 11. Jefferson won't play in the Vikings final preseason game, but do expect to start week one. Yeah, he got some imbalances or something. He needs to get that looked at.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah. Yeah. What do you think it is, especially when it comes to soft situation injuries like that. What do you think that comes from? Because I don't think he has an injury history, Jimmy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I don't. He don't look like he quad dominant sometimes. If a muscle overpowers the other, it will pull. It will pull. So if, you know, you quad dominant sometimes or some. So he might, I mean, he might need to get his hips. He might be out of line or something.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you're fatigued, the muscle, you know, weak, Weak muscles pull.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I, I mean you're dealing with elite athletes and so I know they have the best physio and the best everything around. He might, you know, maybe his mechanics are off or something, but he might need to take a look at that.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Hey, I'm not gonna say nothing. I'm not gonna say nothing. Obviously you know my stance when it comes on the soft tissue injuries. When you know my stance on when it comes to getting hurt. But we know how valuable Justin Jefferson is to that team and I'm GLAD he took 25 days and they, they went slow with him. I think he's a player that training camp would be beneficial, but to getting back 100 healthy. So, yes, he's one. He's not one that needs training camp like that. But I don't want him having to go from 0 to 100 without having the wear and tear that training camp ring. Because what's going to happen, you get to, you get to getting pulled and pushed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That took. That's why I used to hate guys. Man, don't tug me.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, if I beat you, just let me go. Yeah, you took. I'm pulling Ocho and you tug me.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now I'm gonna turn around and swing on you.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That, that's, that's, that's a tough division because we saw the Bears and you and I both think the Bears are going to be better this year than they were last year.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You believe you say, hey, the Lions. I don't see them taking a step back.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

No, I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Then the Packers. You like the Packers. Jordan love that receiving court. Josh Jacobs. So that is a very tough division. Yeah, you could ill afford. Now they're already going to be the first three Games, they're going to be without Jordan Addison because of some issues that he had off the field.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So they're going to be without him. And the last thing that you need to happen, a guy coming back from a soft tissue injury, he. And he retweaks it because now he's probably going to be down double the amount of time that he missed to begin with.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Exactly. Yeah. I hope he gets healthy. I hope he stays healthy, because I. I want to see him on the field.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bless you. Thank you. A man uncovered. He covered his mouth after he done sneeze. Excuse me?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Like, damn, it creeped up on me. I know it was coming. I ain't know it was coming.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you know what coming? Huh?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Oh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Made a little Purell.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

What's that?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Purell.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Why you using that? I'm all the way over here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why would you get me sick?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

I'mma get you sick. I'm all the way in Miami.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, boy, that thing you got right there that day, you might have Ebola. I don't know. I ain't lie. I don't know what they say. They said they died in Liberty City. Say a monkey. Say a monkey got escaped.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Say the monkey had Ebola. Say one of them dudes from Liberty City bit the monkey. The monkey bit him. He had Ebola.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And the monkey died. Yeah. So the monkey got Ebola. He beat the dude from Liberty City. What he got?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Okay, you right, you right, you right. Ain't no telling. Ain't no telling. Ain't no telling.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm just trying to figure out how you sneeze and then cover your mouth and say, excuse me.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

It snuck up on me. I didn't know it was coming. Like, that's what happened when you really. When you're really sick, you don't, you know. I feel like I got a fever.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I thought you didn't get sick. How you getting sick? And you eat fast food, you ain't supposed to get sick, remember?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

I know, it's probably. I'm probably gonna only be like this under one day. Matter of fact, you can hear my voice. I sound like Barry White tonight. Yeah. Most of the time when I talk, I. I got a high. A high pitched squeaky voice. But tonight I sound like, like really sexy. Like for radio.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, I'm just trying to figure out. You told me, right, Chat. Y' all done heard this man say, eating a Big Mac and eating all that fast food, he don't get sick. I just tried to figure out what's really going on. That's it.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Well, technically, I'm not sick. I'm like, I'm still here. This is a minor setback.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are you sick? Did you not say you sick? You just told us when you signed on that you were sick.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah, I'm good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So are you or are you not sick? Yes or no?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yes. At like, halfway. Because if I was sick, I wouldn't be. I wouldn't be on here. So I'm able to do. I'm able to work, so I'm not sick sick. So there's a difference.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So if you work from home, if. If you work from home and sick and you can't work.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So really going on.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah. Yeah, I understand. But some people. Some people, when they get sick, sick, even if they are home, they can't do nothing. They can't function. See, I'm fighting through it. I'm fighting through it. My body on the inside, you know, my immune system, they in there like this, right? And then they're going to work. So on the outside, I'm cold, but on the ins. I mean, on the inside, I'm cold, but on the outside, I got the AC off and I'm sweating, but on the inside, I got chills. I mean, it's weird. So this doesn't happen to me often that, like, at all. So I'm gonna be all right. I'm gonna be all right, though, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And Ojo, you know what I. I hate? I hate when guys, I always. I'm. I'm a firm believer if you limp in the season, Ocho, you know how you coming out of it?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Limping out of her baby. You limping that up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just hate. I hate that for Jim. Cause, man, you talking about off to a historic start.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Ah, absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, my gosh. I think.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

I think it's going to continue, though. I think it's going to be all right. It's going to continue. Mm. Mm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. I don't. I don't. Like I said, that's. That's an extremely tough division. Um, you could ill afford to have him and Addison out. Plus you got J.J. mcCartney, who's in his second year. But this really is first year starting, right? You're asking an awful lot. You're asking an awful lot of a young quarterback to go out there and to do what you need him to do. What I just wanted to say, I just. I just hope Agenda can stay healthy for the entire season because they're gonna. They're gonna need him. They got no chance. They got no chance. Remember kjr KJ Osborne is in. In Washington.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Washington now? Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Addison's gonna miss the first three, and then, you know, he warmed up today. But like you said, he didn't do 707. He didn't do 11 on 11, and he's not gonna play in the final preseason game, which is Friday or Saturday.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So. Boy. And it's just a turn a. And then in 10 days, just go.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm hoping. I'm hoping he's gonna be all right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You. You too. Yeah. Like I said, he's on a. He's on a historic pace. Yeah, historic. The numbers that he's put up for yards as far as catches is just. We have. We haven't seen anything like it. We haven't seen anything like it. And guys get. Like I said, I mean, he gonna have to go some. Go see some specialists and see what. What he's doing wrong that causes to keep causing these soft tissue injuries because, you know, another guy, you know what, he need to call Joey Galloway as Joey Galloway. What he did.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah, Joey Joy. Joy was hurt. See how.

[Shannon Sharpe]

See, Joy was a speed guy. Joy running 4:2.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Joy running too fast. So we got laid. Are we gonna. We gonna burn him out in practice or we go, hey, let him take a couple of plays and then say that for the game.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Right, right, right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think I. I think Isaac Bruce dealt with some hamstring injuries also.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

I'm not sure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So that's definitely a situation that he might need to go. Hey, hey, guys. You know, y' all dealt with some hamstring injuries. How did you. How did you go about it, you know? Yeah. How did you play such a long time and get over those. Debate started on IG. Which year had the best quarterback class? 2018. You got Mayfield, Donald Allen, and Jackson versus Joe Burrow, Herbert Woo. 2018. 2020. Ocho, what you got?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Hey, that's a, That's a good one. That is a good one. That's a good one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got three. If you got three MVPs, right? And, and, and, and in one draft class, and you got a guy that's been to the super bowl and a guy that's been to the super bowl twice, you got two guys have been to three Super Bowls. Yeah, and one guy's won and one super bowl mvp. So what you going with Ocho?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Oh, that's hard. Oh, God damn, that's hard. I mean, listen, I'm have to go. I'm have to go with 2020 because, I mean, there's one. There's one Super bowl champion down there. There's one world champion down there. Listen, I know Lamar winning mvp. Josh Allen winning mvp. But I think Josh Allen's MVP is like, here. Damn. Is one of those. One of those moments, you know, so. But yeah, I gotta go. I mean, the ultimate goal at the end of the day is to win a Super Bowl. Joe's been the one. He didn't win it because they cheated us on their fourth and one call on Logan Wilson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nobody cheat y' all ass.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

That. That wasn't pass interference. That wasn't passing the parents.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Eli Apple on. What you call them on. On. On.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

No, I'm talking about Logan Wilson on Cooper cup on that one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Come on, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

No, no, no, no. Other than that, I'm. Yeah. 2020.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I think you almost have to, because if you look at player for player, okay, better quarterback class. Just better just to just. It's harder than you think.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But Sam. Sam Donald messing it up for 2018.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Baker's had a resurgence. You look at Baker, what he's done the last two years. Josh Allen, outside of his rookie year, has been sensational. Lamar Jackson came in even as a rookie off the bench, and he's been sensational since the days got there. Ooh, bad day off.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah, I like it. I like it a lot. I got to go with Jalen simply because he got what everybody is. Is yearning for and the ultimate goal. When you. When you get the training camp, I got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I gotta agree with you. I mean, if you go play, if you go player for player.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Now, you can. You can get. You can get. You can get ridiculous with it and move the goal post and try to say skill and arm talent and. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

And then now that changes things up when you. When you start getting a little bit more detailed and who the better class is. But again, people will move the goal post based on their preference and what they like in said quarterback.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Each class got a number one overall pick. Baker was number one. Joe Burrow was number one. Sam Darnold was number three. Justin Herbert was what? Number six. Sam Donald was three. Justin Herbert was what, six. Six. Jordan Love was like, 2020, what, 26. Josh Allen was seven. Lamar Jackson was 32. Jalen Hurts was in the second round. Oh, two of us in 2020.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Wow.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tua was in the 2020. Also Joe.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Oh, he was, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Remember, he went to pick. He went before Herbert.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah. Oh, I don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know about that. Oh. Cause 83, you had Elway in the Hall. Jim Kelly's in the Hall, John's in the Hall. So you got three hall of Famers there. John went to five Super Bowls, Elway went to one Super Bowl, Kelly went to four Super Bowl. So that's ten super bowl appearances.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't think these classes gonna catch that. Ocho.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Nah, absolutely not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who else did not. Todd Blackledge didn't do too much. Ken o' Brien was that draft too. Right. Because he went to the Jets. John went one to the Colts.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Kelly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Tony Eason went to. He went to New England.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Tony. Tony Eason. That's a Tony Eason. What? Not alignment. Is he?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, the quarterback.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Quarterback. Yeah. Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

18 by a. Well, hey, they already got more MVPs. 2018 already got more MVPs than 83 because Lamar got two and, and, and, and Allen got one. So that's three. They only got two in 83. Elway got one, Marino got one.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Right.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

2018 versus 2020. And they didn't even put two in there.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, which do are you taking? You taking Sweetness and ap? You taking Jim Brown and Ed? You taking Baron Sanders and Marshall Falk or you taking LT and emt?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Is that AD and Sweetness?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah, I'm going AD and Sweetness.

[Shannon Sharpe]

God damn, man, look at, look at, man, look at Jim, man. Jim Brown won MVP as a rookie.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

I hear, I hear you, I hear you. But I saw agent in his prime. I know, I know. I'm going with all day. And Sweetness, no disrespect to Barry. Barry's a real deal. Ladanian Thomason was the real deal.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's a good one. That's a good one.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

I like, I like AD As a matter of fact, AD And Sweetness is really basically the same back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man. I'm trying to figure out how you gonna tackle Marshall and Barry on turf.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

You not. You not. Listen, the first man is gonna miss every time.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, that's. That's hard. Jim Brown and Ed, they are running backs that day. Don't throw it to a. Hand it to him downhill 30 times.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah, I like sweetness and 80, man. Boy was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, that's a good one. That's a. That's a really good one.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah. Who. Who you picking? Who you going with?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, all them touchdowns. I mean, Emmy got like 160 something touchdowns. LT got about 140. They got about 300 touchdowns between the two of them. I'm taking, I'm taking, I'm taking, I'm taking. I'm taking Barry, Barry Hammond. Barry and Marshall.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Okay, okay, okay, okay. I like It, I like it. It's so funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Can you, can you imagine Barry with this spread in the spread off it with, with one. One back just Barry, they got Nick, they got nickel defense on the field.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

That wouldn't be fair because the first. Do you, you do you realize we have yet to see it back like that till today.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You'll never see another back like him.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Never seen nothing like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can make a case that Shady McCoy might be the closest thing we've seen to him. Yeah, but that too. But the two foot stop is what separates back.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Come to balance. Yeah. Nah, we're not gonna see that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just throw. If you come to balance, you not tackling it.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

At all. So if he, if, if he stopped and you stop, you don't want to just say let him go on past. Yeah, you got to throw. You got to take your shot. It's basically like a part like they teach you on the point return. Ocho, go ahead and throw. Don't come to balance.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah, you got to shoot.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Gotta shoot your shot.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Brown's officially named Joe flacco starter week one. The 40 year old Ocho will be making his first week one start since 2022 when he was with the Jets TBD on the rest of the depth chart. Kenny Pickett has not played since July 26. Dylan Gabriel nursed the injury. He came in, played Saturday. Shador Sanders started the preseason game. He's got an oblique injury. He did not play Saturday. And Snoop Hundley was the guy that they thought they, they, they signed to get them through camp. Adam Schefter said this morning, I expect Cleveland Browns to carry four quarterbacks on the roster. Yeah, well, are you surprised they're going to carry this many quarterbacks on you?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

I mean it's, it's, I'm not surprised. It's not something that teams normally do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They do not.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah, when you need a position, you know that they can, they can play elsewhere, especially on special teams.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

So it's gonna, that, that happens. Having four quarterback gonna take a job away from someone else.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You absolutely right.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Someone else is going to have to do double time on different positions because they're keeping a fourth quarterback. So I mean listen, this is, this is, this is rare, but I understand the problem that they are having. But hey, listen, I, I said Joe Flacco was going to start. I don't know the order in which the backups are going to be, but I mean at any point when Joe Flacco is not playing well, we know what he can Do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He's gonna.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

He. He gonna get you on a 5, 6 game running winning streak, going all over the place, looking crazy. Then all of a sudden, God damn, the bottom gonna fall out. Yeah, the bottom's gonna fall out. You ain't gonna know what's going on. So I'm excited. I'm excited for. I'm excited for the Browns. I know one thing. Week one, we going down there to Cleveland, out there in the water, and we.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man, that don't even count to no victory.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

We gonna put up 50.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You should. All right. I tell you what. What, man, I don't know. If you see Miles Garrett, he been. Been in the edge. Ocho.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, listen, he.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Miles Garrett is going to be Miles Garrett no matter who he's playing. We finna lock that up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, Ocho. Every team's number of quarterbacks since the start of the 20. 20. 20. The 2020 season. Look at this. Cleveland had 11 quarterback starts since 2020. The Saints nine. Washington, nine. Colts, eight. Broncos, eight. Giants, eight. Bears eight.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Hey, it's so. It's so funny. I saw two people were complaining on Twitter today. Mad what they complained about. Added myself and you for saying that Drew Breeds is the reason why the Saints aren't doing well because they chose not to.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You didn't hear the conversation? You didn't hear what we said?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

No, they took it out.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When you have a quarterback like a Breeze, like a Manning, like a. Like a. Like a Brady, right? They're so good for so long and they don't get hurt. The last thing that you want to do is tick them off by taking a quarterback early to be the bridge. Coach Belichick was thinking, but he was starting to build the bridge too early. Yeah, that's what we mean. So Breeze was so good for so long, they're like, well, he gonna play forever. And when it. A lot of times, Ocho is like, when it go downhill, it go down fast.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And you saw with Breeze, I mean, you look at. Look at Breeze the year before, and then the next thing, he gets Nick and it's over. Yeah, but what we got. We ain't got nothing on Joe because we hadn't taken a quarterback in so long since when? Yeah, same thing with Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning that had not missed a start. Yeah, he gets nicked. He plays the rest of the season. He has surgery in the off season.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Ain't the same sense.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So that's what we mean by that. We're not bl. I'm just saying we're not blaming him, but because quarterbacks and organizations don't want to kick that guy off. Yeah, they're hesitant to take a quarterback early, especially drafted high. Now, you take a guy in the sixth or seventh round, fifth or sixth round, that ain't no threat. You take one in the first and second round, that's a threat to it.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah. Now you're looking over your shoulder.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Remember when Coach Belichick took Jimmy G?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What did Mr. Kraft instruct Coach Belichick to do? Trading.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Get him up out of there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's what we're talking about, guys. NFL players would no longer be punished for using a bow and arrow celebration. Eagles old outside linebacker was. How you say? Jalen. Jalen hunt was fined five. $5,600. Well, $5,700 for using the bow and allen celebration in the super bowl, but that's something the league will no longer penalize, according to referee Land Clark. It's a weapon. Cupid wo back your bo. What you think? Oo. You like it?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Let him have. Let him have some fun. Let him have some fun. By all. By all means. By all means. You know, I'm. I'm all for it. Long as you don't do any gestures that have to do with. Do with. Do with these. None of this, right? No, no. Six shooters.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Six shooters.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And no throat slash. Remember the throat slash? See, they used to let you do the throat slash. They won't let you do throw slash, though, Bob.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah, yeah. Outside of that, man. Just let them boys have some fun, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, show. We got great news. Auburn will retire Cam Newton's number two. Cam became the first SEC player to record a 2,000 yard passing season. A 1,000 yard rushing season. He had 28, 54 yards, 1473 yards. Russian. He accounted for 51 touchdowns, 30 passing, 21 rushing, one receiving. While helping Auburn go 14 and oh, and winning the national championship against Oregon. Cam swept the major College Football Awards. 2000. He won the Maxwell Walter Camp, the Manning, the Davey o' Brien AP Player of the Year, as well as the Heisman Trophy. Oh, I just got a simple question.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Talk to me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why won't Carolina show that man the love that Auburn is showing?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He said, Remember we did. I think we did a topic with it last year, that he took his son and there were no pictures of him on the wall at the facility.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Oh, that's right. He did. He did say that he did. Say that. I. I don't know. Huh? I don't know. That's something. We would have to probably ask him that internally. I'm not sure how things.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, we have to educate Cam because Cam don't know why. We need to ask the organization.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah. Yeah. Ain't. Ain't no telling. Ain't no telling how things ended with Cam. Even though we came back, We. It's no telling. You'll never know. Especially for a quarterback of that magnitude that. That did the things that he did for the Carolina Panthers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Rookie of the year.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Pro Bowler All Pro. But that's amazing. Congratulations, Cam. Very deserving. I can make a case. That's the greatest college season for a quarterback. I know Joe had. I know Joe. Numbers.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But Joe ain't throw. Putting up those numbers with the receivers that Cam had. He ain't doing that. And I don't know. I think he had one. I don't think he had an offensive lineman. I mean, did anybody play more than a year in the NFL on Cam's team, on the offense? Cause I know he had a defensive lineman that went, like, I think, top 10 to the Lions, but if you look at his offensive weapons and what he was able to do.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah. Well, Cam was the real deal back then, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cam was crazy with it. I mean, off the chain.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know if we'll ever see. Lamar had an unbelievable season. I mean, he won the Heisman. Yeah. Well, actually, the year that he finished that, he. The next year, he was even better than the year that he won the Heisman. If you go back and look at it.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because he threw for, like, 3, 500 yards and had 1500 yards rushing.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

That's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But congratulations, Cam. University of Auburn. No one else will be able to wear the number two.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

That's live.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Alpha Body said, OO sounded like Keith Sweat.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Wait, he making fun of. He making fun of my voice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you sound like He Sweat.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Nah, I sound like Barry White tonight.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ker. No. Wood Jr. Said, I have the Bengals going 10, 6 this season, but they lose to the Broncos in week four. I agree, Kemper.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

That's funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Aaron Owen says, I don't know who's softer, Charmin or the Bengals Defense. Bengals defense.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Relax. Relax, y'. All. Relax. It's pretty. Just the preseason. Just the preseason. It's not getting.

[Shannon Sharpe]

TJ Ryder said, hey, trade Terry for Trey. They don't need another receiver. They Ain't gonna play another receiver, man. You, You. They ain't going to have no $100 million receiving core. They already got a $70 million receiving core.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Hey, he trying. He trying to play Madden. He acting like it's Madden Apache Hall.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Say, Uncle Nocho, in wrestling, the word receipt means when your opponent hits you too hard, you owe them a receipt by hitting them harder. Right there. Anyone you played with or against that you felt you owed a receipt. Yeah. Brian Cox when he's with the Jets.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yep. Brian Russell when he was with the Cleveland Brads.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, he got me, too, though, when he was at. When he was at Minnesota, knocked me out cold.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

I'm talking about out cold. I was on the field, like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are you reaching for that rope?

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Yeah, man, he got me good. That was my only. That was my only. That's my one and only, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'll never forget this. Oh, Jordan. And hold on, I'm trying to think what year was. Was 99. And Greasy threw a pick and I'm chasing and I see him. I was like, man, let me. Let me go get. I think big. The green picked it, man. I took, like, two steps parallel to the ground. I'm in the air and I'm cursing. B. Cox, I know that was your dirty ass. Ain't nobody ain't talking, man. How you know it's me? I said because they like, man, he like, Sharp, how you doing with me? Because I know it was you.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Hey, that's funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know it was you. R, R, S, R, S, F, M, A, R, O. I don't know how you say that, Joy. Badass, goated, super underrated. Might be the most underrated, but just wait on Humble Beast. Love, jb. Keep grinding, gang. Thank you, guys. Ocho, thank you for get your. Your Internet working. We really appreciate you joining us tonight.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Appreciate it. Appreciate that. Now I'm gonna be up.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I want to thank you in the chat because you make it all worthwhile, because without you, this doesn't even happen. It doesn't even mean anything. So thank you guys again. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp, my partner and co host, Liberty City's own Madden ratings adjuster. Bingo. Ring of Fame honoree, the Pro Bowler All Pro, he's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure y' all hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed, wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank you again personally tonight for joining us. Like you have so many nights before you make it all worthwhile. Thank you again. My cognac La Portier has a new drop and this one is very personal. I've created a limited edition release to honor my brother induction into the Pro Football hall of Fame. It's just not a bottle. It's a tribute. It's a celebration of a legacy. And once they're gone, they're gone. The hall of Fame edition is officially live. Just head over to laportier cognac.com grab yours while supplies last. Don't miss a chance to own a piece of history in a very, very special moment. Please go follow my media company page on all of his platforms, Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat. Joe Flacco, officially named starter for the Browns. No surprise there. I'm up. Keith Ocho. We're off the next couple of days. We will see you on Thursday, right? Thursday. Peace break. We got a break.

[Jake Hofer]

I'm Jake Hofer and this is back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode I'll be asking eight whitetail hunting pros a focused, thought provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Access should you? That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand.

[Jake Hofer]

Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Behind the Flow Narrator]

Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club.

[San Diego FC Enthusiast]

San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region is been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.

[Jake Hofer]

We need to embrace this community.

[Behind the Flow Narrator]

Listen to San Diego FC behind the Flow on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Get fired up y'. All. Season 2 of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite people, an incomparable soccer icon Megan Rapinoe to the show and we had a blast. Take a listen. Sue and I were like riding the lime bikes the other day and we're like wee people ride bikes because it's fun. We got more incredible guests like Megan in store, plus news of the day and more. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tune in to all the Smoke podcast where Matt and Stack sit down with former first lady Michelle Obama.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Folks find it hard to hate up close. And when you get to know people and you're sitting in their kitchen tables and they're talking like we're talking, you know, you hear our story, how we grew up, how Barack grew up, and you get a chance for people to unpack and get beyond race.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All the Smoke featuring Michelle Obama. To hear this podcast to and more, open your free iHeartRadio app, search all the Smoke and listen.

[Chad Johnson (Ocho Cinco)]

Now.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

This is an iHeart podcast.