Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Ryan Clark saying Tom Brady isn't a generational talent, Powerball at 1.7 BILLION?!

Summary

Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho React to Ryan Clark, Tom Brady, and Powerball at $1.7 Billion?!

Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson
Air Date: September 5, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this Nightcap Hour 2, Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson deliver their signature energetic, humorous, and unfiltered banter on major NFL stories and trending topics. The duo dive deep into Ryan Clark’s hot take that Tom Brady isn't a “generational talent,” dissect a wild Powerball jackpot, analyze player trades and injuries, and answer live audience Q&A. Through storytelling, personal reflection, and nostalgia for “old school” NFL, the episode is packed with opinions, spirited disagreements, and memorable one-liners.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Evolution of NFL Defensive Rules and Player Safety

[03:01 - 07:56]

• Ocho and Unc passionately debate defensive penalties (unnecessary roughness) and the difficulty defenders now face in the modern game.

• They reminisce on how, in the '90s and early 2000s, rules permitted far more physicality. Both host fond memories of intimidating safeties and linebackers.

• Ochocinco laments:

  "Quarterback got to protect the player. My job as a defensive player is not to protect an offensive player. That's your job." (Chad Johnson, 04:35)

• Sharpe contends that defenders are being “handicapped”:

  "You're handicapping the defense. The defense is already handicapped. ... In a minute, they're gonna be playing two hand touch, right?" (Shannon Sharpe, 03:59)

• Both agree today’s receivers “look pretty” across the middle and would have been “decapitated” back in the day.

2. Micah Parsons, Jerry Jones’ Ego, and Trade Politics

[08:13 – 16:12]

• Unc and Ocho react to rumors about a potential Micah Parsons trade between the Cowboys and Eagles.

• Ocho clarifies it was pride, not football logic or player performance, that blocked the deal:

  "Jerry's pride got in the way... if he plays here, he's gonna play on the fifth-year option or he can leave." (Chad Johnson, 12:01)

• Sharpe points out that a true non-belief in Parsons’ value would’ve made the trade a no-brainer:

  "If you believe he's of no value to you...trade him." (Shannon Sharpe, 14:58)

• Ocho details how past legends like Charles Haley would’ve policed locker-room behavior differently.

3. Micah Parsons’ Injury & Player Mindset

[16:12 – 20:36]

• The hosts discuss whether Parsons should play through his back injury for week 1.

• Ocho urges caution for long-term health:

  "Sometimes you have to protect us from us, because that's how... we got a finite period of time to play this game." (Chad Johnson, 19:43)

• Both poke fun at each other with epidural stories, highlighting the extremes players go through to stay on the field.

4. Bill Belichick, Spygate, and “Petty” College Ban

[22:00 – 27:14]

• The hosts roast Belichick’s decision to ban Patriots scouts from certain college campuses—a sign of ongoing "pettiness" after his NFL exit.

• Sharpe jokes:

  "If you're not cheating, you're not trying. ... Now, I'm just telling you what you told me." (Shannon Sharpe, 22:46)

• Ocho muses on the unique relationship between Belichick and Patriots owner Robert Kraft, comparing it to other NFL dynasties and hallowed runs (e.g., Saban-Alabama).

• Kraft’s promise of a status for Belichick is scrutinized for sincerity.

5. What Makes a “Generational Talent”? The Ryan Clark – Tom Brady Debate

[30:55 – 43:26]

• Ocho quotes Ryan Clark:

  "I don't think Tom Brady... I don't even think Peyton Manning is our generational talent. I think Andrew Luck ended up being a generational talent..." (Chad Johnson, 30:55)

• They clarify that Clark’s perspective is about visible physical traits: arm strength, mobility, size.

• Unc contextualizes:

  "Actually, Brady and Manning would be what you call transcendent. ... Generational is 25 years. These guys are transcendent." (Shannon Sharpe, 35:18)

• Ocho observes that nobody forecasted Brady as generational from college—his attributes weren’t measurably off-the-charts—but his impact is undeniable.

• The hosts agree players like Aaron Rodgers, Josh Allen, and Cam Newton are “generational” in the physical-traits sense, while Brady and Manning transcend that by impact and leadership.

Notable Quote

"You can’t cut the head open and look at the brain. You just know they're picking your ass apart."
(Chad Johnson, 36:34)

6. Amari Cooper Stepping Away from Raiders, Passion for the Game

[44:31 – 47:42]

• Ocho says physical talent is only part of the equation; burning desire is crucial.

• Sharpe stresses, “If your heart ain’t in it, it’s hard to fake this game.” (Shannon Sharpe, 46:05)

• Both support Cooper’s reported decision; football is too tough to play without full passion.

7. Anthony Richardson & Overdrafted “Projects”

[50:24 – 59:14]

• The hosts debate whether it was wise for the Colts and 49ers to draft developmental QBs (Richardson, Trey Lance) so high.

• Sharpe:

  "Normally people take projects like they did Lamar ... You don't take it with the third pick." (Shannon Sharpe, 53:01)

• Ocho:

  "Every scout, every gm, every owner that looked at Lamar Jackson at Louisville and said, this is a project...has no business being in whatever position they in." (Chad Johnson, 53:26)

• They compare Richardson’s slow developmental path and underwhelming stats to Tim Tebow; both were not NFL-ready QBs despite college hype.

8. Powerball Madness

[60:44 – 61:40]

• The $1.7 billion Powerball jackpot is cause for joking about what they’d do with the winnings (move next door, blast music, play practical jokes).
• Highlights camaraderie and light section of the show.

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Live Q&A Segment

[62:27 – 75:19]

• Audience questions range from on-field altercations (Jalen Carter's ejection, Dak Prescott’s instigation, spitgate), to Madden player ratings (speed and acceleration downgrades), to debates on all-time best NFL players.
• Ocho and Unc keep things animated, often poking fun at each other and referencing classic NFL memories.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Defensive Rules:

  "That guy catching the ball with one hand—laid out backwards like he's on the beach... That’s how the stretcher have him. Just like that." (Chad Johnson, 06:44)

• On Amari Cooper’s Retirement:

  "If your heart ain't in it, go ahead and step aside. ... Don’t go out there, waste them people time." (Chad Johnson, 47:42)

• On Generational QBs:

  "You can't want something for someone more than they want it for themselves." (Chad Johnson, 59:42)

• On Powerball Dreams:

  "When I win, I'm gonna move right next to you, play my music loud, let my dogs run in your yard." (Chad Johnson, 61:23)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• NFL Defensive Rule Changes & "Bang-Bang" Plays: 03:01 – 08:13
• Micah Parsons Trade Drama & Jerry Jones Ego: 08:13 – 16:12
• Parsons’ Injury Management: 16:12 – 20:36
• Belichick Bans, Spygate & Dynasties: 22:00 – 27:14
• Statues, Legacies & Franchise Owners: 25:03 – 27:56
• Ryan Clark vs. Tom Brady “Generational” Debate: 30:55 – 43:26
• Amari Cooper Stepping Away from Football: 44:31 – 47:42
• Anthony Richardson & Overdrafted QB Projects: 50:24 – 59:14
• Powerball Banter: 60:44 – 61:40
• Q&A / Chat Live Segment: 62:27 – 75:19

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Episode Tone & Style

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson bring high-spirited and authentic locker room banter to every topic. They blend humor, expertise, and vulnerability—never shying from old-school vs. new-school debates or poking fun at themselves and each other. Ocho's storytelling and Shannon’s “uncle wisdom” make the pod highly accessible, even for those who aren't hardcore NFL fans.

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Concluding Thoughts

This episode exemplifies what Club Shay Shay—and specifically the Nightcap format—does best: insightful NFL commentary, Hall-of-Fame storytelling, and pure entertainment value. New listeners will be drawn into the chemistry, while longtime fans will appreciate the depth and nostalgia.

Memorable Insight:

"Brady and Manning were transcendent, not generational. ... Nobody thought Brady was generational at Michigan. We saw what happened when he left—he proved who was really behind the dynasty."
(Chad Johnson & Shannon Sharpe, 34:00-36:00)

For more legendary takes, tune in next week.

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[Chad Johnson]

Jerry Jones says he was so impressed by what he saw from Brian Schottenheimer tonight. I'm proud of him. He had us ready to play. Said he felt sick for him that they didn't get the win for him. I did. I thought, I thought, I thought shoddy, he had it ready to play. I thought he called a really good game. Look, 24, 34. But Dak had some drops. Dad has some drop now. I. It's interesting. Ocho, what did you, what did you think about the unnecessary roughness on Ferguson? I wish they'd have showed it again. But it looked like it was cover six because it looked like they had half and they played quarter. It might have been quarters, but like Dak led him across.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He did a little bit. Hey, can I ask you a question too? With the rules today, what is he supposed to do?

[Chad Johnson]

I don't know.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What is John supposed to do?

[Chad Johnson]

I guess he's supposed to let him catch it first. No, that was Blankenship.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Blankenship. What is he supposed to do in that situation? You have, when you play football, you have to dislodge the ball. You have to. So you're handicapping the defense. The defense is already handicapped. We're in a minute. They're gonna be playing two hand touch, right? You got to be able to make a play on the ball to dislodge the ball. Like, I, I don't understand what the NFL is doing. I understand you have to protect your players. You do. But you also have to allow them and give them a chance to make a play on the ball. So it's not a touchdown.

[Chad Johnson]

Quarterback got to protect the player. My job, my job as a defensive player is not to protect an offensive player. That's your job. Quarterback. Don't you hang him out the drive.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you're right.

[Chad Johnson]

It oo he. He's bobbling the ball. Okay, I'mma go low so I don't want to hit him in his head, but when he bobbles the ball to fall, if, if his head is here and I'm going to try to hit him in his body and he bobbles the ball and guess what? He comes right down into my area. So what am I supposed to do?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. I don't. I don't like it. I. I don't like it. I. I wish I. I wish there was a. A rule on a play like that. That is a bang is a bank. It's. It's a bang bang play. It's a bang bang play. What is he supposed to do?

[Chad Johnson]

Nothing. Because like you said, it's bang bang. That's what that means.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I. I don't understand. I don't. I don't understand.

[Chad Johnson]

And people don't understand. It's like, bro, that's instantaneous. I mean, you got. You hesitate because we've seen guys like, oh, try to get an interception, and then the guy go out there and catch the ball. Bro, don't worry about the interception. Knock hell out of.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you got to.

[Chad Johnson]

You probably was gonna drop it. Anyway.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Speaking of interceptions and being more aggressive to the ball, the beautiful one hand catch the hurricane game. I'm just saying this.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, hurricane game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, boy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The ball supposed to be going the other way. As a, As a safety, be aggressive. That ball supposedly going the other way. You sitting there waiting for the fall of your hands, and while you waiting for the fall, he. That's the difference in today's rules, huh?

[Chad Johnson]

You know? Supposed to know. You know what's supposed to happen?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yo, yo, your helmet's supposed to be rolling on the sideline.

[Chad Johnson]

They supposed to be backing up on the exact. And the door supposed to be swinging them. Door supposed to be swinging open and they come out that. That's what's supposed to be. I'm sorry, Ocho. That's what's supposed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's the difference. That's the difference in today's game.

[Chad Johnson]

The dude catching the ball with one hand. Hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Laid out backwards like he on the beach.

[Chad Johnson]

Perfect. He perfect. That's how the stretcher have him. Just like that. That's how boy. But see, that's the thing with the rules now. You. When you got a targeting, you got defenseless receivers and you got all that. That's what you allow to happen. You get guys catching balls with one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hand, being pretty across the middle. Ape your era, my era. Or any error before. Who cares, man, please.

[Chad Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not that, that area. No, no, no, no. Because that's really bang bang. Boy, they go, boy, they gonna decapitate you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Not. Not me.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, we had. We. They had big. I'm talking about big. Go back and look. When you go back and look at the 90s. You look at the hitters and you look at. At water. You look at. You had Ronnie, you had at water, Ronnie, Dennis Smith, you had David Forcher, you had Mark Carrier, you had Tim Hawk, you had Chuck Cecil. Man, you what? Hold on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My. My. My area. Donovan Darius, John Lynch, Bob Sanders. I'm talking about. They coming to the party.

[Chad Johnson]

Ryan Russell. Who knocked.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Who knocked me out here at. @ B Stadium. I was out cold, man, please. One hand, okay? Man, please.

[Chad Johnson]

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, you know, Jerry ain't no fool. Jerry ain't no fool. You understand what you have. You just didn't want to pay the.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

His pride and ego that got in the way. But having a deal with Micah twice a year, you don't want the problem. You know you ain't want them problems. Come on now.

[Chad Johnson]

You asked me oo when we found out it got traded, I said it was his ego. Come to find out, they called Jerry and told Jerry, whatever it takes, we'll take the deal you originally offered in March. Jerry told them no, if he stays here in Dallas, he's gonna play on the fifth year option or he can leave. You see how Zigo had done gotten away serious. That's what's being reported that that Michael Micah tried to call his representative, said okay, whatever it takes you we'll play on that deal. We'll do the five years. Jerry says no, if he plays here, he gonna play on the 50 option. See, I probably didn't got in the way now and they talking about well if he he rubbed people the way he came to training camp, he rubbed people that he was laying down on the the table, the training table behind the bench. If Charles Haley would hear, he would have flipped the table over. See, that had to be somebody that said that Charles Haley was in there. That had to be somebody in the higher up that was there When Haley was there to know what Charles Haley was like, because everybody on that team, don't nobody know Charles. They hear stories, but they don't know Charles. Like if you played in the league or you've been around Charles. You know Charles.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you right. You're right.

[Chad Johnson]

So that sounds like somebody like a Steven or somebody like that that said something like that. But Jerry's pride once, like Michael says, you know what? Hey, I want to be a cowboy. Hey, I'll take the five years, X, Y and Z, so forth. It's all fine. Nope. If he plays here, he's going to play on the option now. Okay. Okay. If I play on the option, you won't franchise me. No, I ain't say that. I ain't say nothing. I ain't say nothing about that. I said if you play here this year, you'll be on the. You'll be on the fifth year option. And I still have two franchise tags. So that was the best thing. I think it was the best thing for all parties involved was to go ahead and cut ties back to our original scheduled programming. No, Jerry was never. You know why? You know why Jerry wasn't going to trade him? Because Jerry don't believe anything that he said about Micah. It's just his pride got in the way because. Let me know. Let me tell you how I know. Bill Belichick traded his starting quarterback to Buffalo. That's how so sure he was, that his quarterback was not that he traded him to in the division. Now, who would trade a quarterback if that quarterback. The Chiefs would never trade Patrick Mahomes to Denver, to the Chiefs, to the Raiders. I mean, excuse me, to the Raiders, the Chargers, ever.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's how sure he was of Brady, huh?

[Chad Johnson]

Lamar Jackson is never going to get traded to the Steelers. He not getting traded to the Browns. That ain't happening. If you don't. If you believe that guy, he can't play the run. He stay hurt. Trade him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, he's a. Hey, listen, he's of no value to you based on what you telling us. That's what. That's what you made. That's what you made it look like. They. He knew better. That was.

[Chad Johnson]

Now, all of a sudden, you just played a run, you know, you couldn't play the run. But I don't remember at any point in time Jerry said anything about the run. And y' all was getting run on, getting 300 yards, 292, 72.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Putting the blame on him, basically putting on this, on him.

[Chad Johnson]

And nobody, first of all, Ain't nobody getting no, no, no. No rush linebacker to play the run. All of them hunt the quarterbacks. That's why you need somebody. You need somebody to chase down the guy that's playing 50, $60 million, and eventually you're about to get to 70. You need somebody to chase him down.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Matter of fact, could you imagine that, though? Unknown. Thinking about that? Jalen Carter and Michael Parsons, you think they were destructive?

[Chad Johnson]

Hell, no. Jerry didn't want to think about that either.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You think they was disruptive last year? Man, I'm so happy. It's football season, man. You don't understand, right? Golly.

[Chad Johnson]

The packers are in limbo with Michael Parsons back injury. Matt LaFleur offered no firm commitment regarding the plan for Parson in the opener. We'll see how he responds every day. You know, again, we're hopeful, but no guarantees. Ocho, if you're making the call, do you hold Michael Micah out until his back is fully healthy, or do you want him to suit him and Micah's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Suiting up week one. Micah suiting up week one. Listen, I understand he has some problems. There are a lot of players. That was one of the questions I asked today. Huh? I'm not. I'm not saying no names, but how your body feeling? How you feel going into the season, Man? Come on now. You know we coming out of training camp. Everybody got something going on with him right now going into week one. Everybody, including this Michael back bothering right now. Oh, he gonna be all right because he's had enough time to rest. He's had enough.

[Chad Johnson]

If you got.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If you got to take epidural, he gonna take the epidural. But I tell you one thing. Week one. Who they playing? The Lions, right? No, nothing. They playing Lions. Yeah. I guarantee you had two sacks against golf. I bet you that.

[Chad Johnson]

I wouldn't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What?

[Chad Johnson]

I wouldn't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My 47 million dollar man.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. You want it for one game, or do you want it for seven, or you want it for 15?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He not hurt that bad, huh? He not hurt.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, clearly, with no firm commitment, he's hurt that bad or the mere fact he's got to take an epidural? How many guys take epidural? I understand an epidural at some point in time during the season or a playoff, but openly weekend?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Oh, well, yeah. Yeah, I think that's tough. I think.

[Chad Johnson]

Exactly. You ever had an epidural?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Oh, what I was at when my. My daughter got. Daughter was having a baby.

[Chad Johnson]

What that got to do with you having.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I wanted to Know what it felt like. So when. When she.

[Chad Johnson]

You ain't got to feel. You don't feel nothing. You ain't pushing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's why I got that epidural, to make sure I can see what it felt like.

[Chad Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no, no. You need to pull a. Push your watermelon through a pee hole. That's what you need to do. Now you'll know what it feels like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know about that part. I don't know exactly.

[Chad Johnson]

So, no, I was trying.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, sometimes you have to do situations like this. When my. When my oldest. Yeah. My oldest. My oldest daughter was being born, I wanted to make.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The mother of my oldest. I wanted to make her feel comfortable. So if she got an epidural, hell, I got one, too. Say, look. Look, mama, I'mma do it with you, so don't be nervous.

[Chad Johnson]

But you ain't got. But you not pushing no baby out, so it don't have no effect.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, it's just the. The fact that. Let me show you. I can. I can do it. I, I. I'm gonna do. I'm with you in this journey. That's all. That's all. I know what you mean.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh. All you did was get a shot. You still ain't do nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, you ever had epidural?

[Chad Johnson]

Yes, I've had several.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Dad, what's wrong with you?

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely back with sciatica. Yeah. Yeah. It's not. It's not the same thing for you as it was for her, but look, I would. I would. I would hold. I would hold Micah out because it's more important for. For me to have him 14, 15 games, Ocho, or to have to go through this every week. Is he gonna play? Is he not gonna play? Not gonna pr.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I know Micah. I know Micah all. Of course he won't play week one, no matter what them damn doctors say. No matter what the packers say. He's playing week one. I guarantee you he gonna have two sacks. Oh, he gonna. Oh, he gonna open the season off, right?

[Chad Johnson]

I think the thing is, sometimes you have to protect us from. You have to protect us from us, because that's how, you know, we understand we got a finite period of time to play this game, and there is no senior league. So once it's over, it's over. And you want to make sure you maximize every opportunity that you've got to be the best you can possibly be. But in this situation, Ocho, I'm going to err on the side of caution. I would go another week But I know he wants to play. He wants to show that. Look, he got 120 million. At the time of signing, he making 47. I mean, he blew. He blew the market away. They say, okay, you know, when he said reset the market, he double reset it. Double reset it. Yeah, yeah. And that's that sciatic nerve, Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Boy, I don't know nothing about that stuff. I ain't never been hurt. Un. So is it that bad?

[Chad Johnson]

Man? Sometimes Ocho gets so bad, man, you. You pee on yourself, it won't even. Huh? The nerd day. Hey, boy, you be a leg. Be leg. Leg. Drew, you have the dead leg. You know, sometimes you be sleep. Ocho, you try to stand up, that saddle can have it just like that. Boy, you can't sit down, man. Boy, that thing have you walking sideways.

[Shannon Sharpe]

God. What. How that.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How did that even happen, though? That like. But old age or just injury?

[Chad Johnson]

Nah, nah, nah. Sometimes, you know, you have a pinch, an impingement, and it starts, you know, start. According to espn, Bill Belichick has officially banned Patriot scouts from North Carolina practices. Reportedly, Lombardi informed the Patriots that they would be banned from USC the day before one of their scouts was scheduled to visit in August. Oh, yo, this being Petty Belichick biggest selling point is that he can get college players ready for the NFL. So why would he stop an NFL team. Oh, from properly evaluating Ocho? That's Petty. Coach Belichick, damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You. You don't.

[Chad Johnson]

You don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You.

[Chad Johnson]

You don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't side with him. You don't understand why he's doing it.

[Chad Johnson]

No. So, okay, if that's the case, why not? Why not? Why not ban Buffalo, Kansas City, Philly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Cowboys, everybody you just named and doing wrong? There ain't nobody getting wrong, obviously.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, the man has Spygate. Ocho. The man has Spygate. And he, like.

[Shannon Sharpe]

After Spygate, did they go on. Did they go on to still win another how many championships?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, but it was the fact that they did it, and he did. Ocho, they sent out a memoir. Said, anybody tape taping from field level, stop it immediately. And he did. Mr. Kraft stuck by it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

My teacher told me in high school. My teacher. Now, if. If you're not cheating, you're not trying. Now I'm just telling you what you told me.

[Chad Johnson]

What you. Ocho, he said, what's it? Let me ask you a question. What's his biggest selling point? What's his biggest selling point? What can he sell that no other college Coach can sell?

[Shannon Sharpe]

6 championships thank you.

[Chad Johnson]

And I know, I know players that can play in the NFL.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you're right.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, let these guys come see him.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You right. You right.

[Chad Johnson]

But what? Oh, you got 20 years. Oh, you got 20 years. I mean, I, I, I'm not sure that did Robert Craft. If they, if they re, if they met in different lives.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Right.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm not so sure Mr. Kraft would hire Coach Belichick. It was a perfect situation. It was a perfect situation. When I say hired, I shouldn't say that, because he did hire him. He gave a first round draft pick to get him from the Jets. I'm not so sure they would be best friends. I'm not so sure they would even be friends. But somehow Mr. Kraft swallowed his ego, swallowed his pride. Oh, nobody talks. I mean, only like, hold on, wait a minute. I'm cutting all these checks. I'm paying $200 million in salaries and all these everything, and I can't say nothing about my team. And what Mr. Kraft did took a back seat. Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

Listen, they both, Come on, Coach Belichick.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You also have to understand with Robert, you know, he's been taking shots at, he's been taking shots at, at Bill. So Bill, you know, if he feels some type of way, huh? He feels some type of way. You gotta understand what Bill has been through. You know, I think Bill might have been, he, Bill was forced out the door. Now. He was, he was replaced with, you know what, One of one of his players. And it just didn't sit right with him. So he, now he's back in a position of power. You know what? I ain't letting none of you, you know what? In because me and Mr. Crab beefing, you know, you got, you got rappers got beef right now. You got, you know, Bill and Robert, everybody beefing right now.

[Chad Johnson]

Mr. Kraft said this week that when Coach Belichick retires from coaching, the Patriots would give him a statue alongside Tom Brady. Well, just put up honoring when the great 20 year era ended. It was always my intention to commission a statue for both Tommy and Bill when their respective careers were over playing and coaching. When Bill's career, coaching career ends, we look forward to sitting down with him and having a statue made right next to Tommy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I like that.

[Chad Johnson]

He not petty. Now think about it. How long did Jerry Jones wait to put Jimmy in the ring of honor? This man said, I'm building a statue. Hold on. Right next to Tommy's.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, he said it. That, that you taking the owner's word for it.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes, yes, yes. The moment the Moment Coach Belichick retires from coaching football, he'll have a statue. Absolutely. It's the greatest run in NFL history. I absolutely 1000% believe might be right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You might be right. Based on. But most time. Most time owners, you know, they'll say things and it's just blowing hot air.

[Chad Johnson]

What only you ever said. What only have you ever heard say they would get a statue of a coach.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I heard Jerry Jones say he's the only person that can run the Cowboys organization. So how's that working out? You believe it?

[Chad Johnson]

Let me ask you a question. Is he doing it? Is he doing it? Did he pass that off to somebody else or did he lie?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Lie?

[Chad Johnson]

No, he doing it. You. He. You said he's the only one that can run it. He's not running it well, but he's still running it. He running it. He might not be running it well, but he's running it. I don't believe. Mr. I don't. I don't believe Mr. Kraft lied. I don't believe. I. I'm not. Like, I haven't heard. I haven't been privy to every conversation. But I do believe that when Coach Belichick coaching career is over, be IT College or NFL, Mr. Kraft will commission a statue. It's the greatest. It's the greatest run in. In. In. In football.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, hell, I mean, I need to. Well, I need. I need to go see Mike Brown.

[Chad Johnson]

Y' all ain't win nothing. Ocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm the greatest entertainer of all time.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, well, you need to be in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame, but you ain't going to no. Damn, the bingo. We talking about this here. Y' all ain't win nothing. Y' all won one division.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What they got to do with me? I'm talking about. I'm talking about me. It ain't. It ain't a statue of 53 people. It's a statue of me, the greatest entertainer of all time.

[Chad Johnson]

So what are you. What your. What's your statue gonna say? What's your statue gonna say?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The greatest entertainer.

[Chad Johnson]

Cuz. Football. Because football is about winning. We gotta win championships. Okay, so how many.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How many.

[Chad Johnson]

How many Oscars did you win? Oscars? I got two Tony's. One Grammy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I used to date a Tony. A girl named Tony.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, okay, I. I get that. But if you know what get you, we gonna put you in the rock and roll.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was a rock star at that, though. I was a rock star.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, but you talk about this man, this man, this ocho. 20 years six.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Super.

[Chad Johnson]

Think about it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, it's only right, Unc. It's only rado. Based on what Nick Saban did at Alabama. Exactly. His equivalent would be.

[Chad Johnson]

It is right next to Coach Brian.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, you're right.

[Chad Johnson]

You're right. Because both of them got six championships.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're right.

[Chad Johnson]

Coach. Being petty. Coach. Let that go. Coach. Coach. You had a see, Coach. So some. Some people only look at the negative, and they never look at the good. And if you just look at the negative. Yeah, you'll be resentful. You'll be resentful. You'll be resentful. I. I'm. I'm. I'm just the opposite. I look at the great times that we had, and even though sometimes, I mean, it's like, damn, hated it ended like that. But come on, Coach. Come on. I mean, Spygate, Deflategate, all this other stuff. He stood. When this man. This man got rid of Jimmy G. The only time really, Mr. Mr. Krabs put his foot down is that he went to him and told him to trade Jimmy Garoppolo. And then at the end, coach. Coach. Mr. Kraft sided with Bill Belichick and got Tom up out of there. And this man sided with you. But when Tommy had years left, I'm not saying that he would have won another super bowl in New England because the covers was bare. Edelman was on his last leg. They had let Amendola go. Gronk. They wanted to trade Gronk. Gronk was like, I don't want to practice like this. He was beaten down. So I'm not saying that Tom would have won another super bowl in New England because the cupboards were bare. And he was right by going because he proved once and for all who was the reason behind this dynasty. You have to give one to the majority of the credit. Even if you give him 51 to 49, he gets more credit because we saw him leave and go somewhere else and win another one, and we saw what happened once he left. It's really that simple, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're right. It's hard to argue with that. Hard to argue with that. But I still deserve a statue. But go ahead.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, you. You know what, Ocho? Y' all might have got one if y' all could have won one.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't. There's nothing. I can't control that. Huh? The cars. I was dealt the time. And when I came here. No, we. We were bad, boy. We was bad.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, y' all was good and terrible. Ryan Clark says that Tom Brady was not a generational talent at quarterback, he says, I think John Elway was generational talent. I think Patrick Ma is a generational talent. I don't think Tom Brady, I don't think drew breath, I don't even think Peyton Manning is our generational talent. I think Andrew Luck ended up being a generational talent. I think there are tons of them out there. I think Ryan, what he's trying to say is that he's looking at it from a purely thing where I can see, I can see the big arm, I can see the size, I can see the mobility. When you look at Tom, he doesn't have a big arm because see the generational talent that Tom has, that Breeze has, that Manning has, you can't see it right here.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

I look at John Elway's arm, I look at John Elway's scrambling ability. That's generational. I look at physical tools of Cam Newton. We had never seen a guy cam size that could throw the ball and could run the ball. So Ryan is really looking at it from just a physical standpoint of, of the generation, the talent that he said as well.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes. Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

All right. Arm strength.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Size, speed, that, so when you, when you put it like that and you give better context on what Ryan means and then you put it in that perspective, then I, I, I, I, I see what he's saying and you, you can agree because if you look at a Tom Brady, if you look at a Peyton Manning, they're not the fastest at the best arm talent. You know too. No generational Aaron Rodgers would be in that conversation as well. We talk about, hell yeah, Brady said it his goddamn self.

[Chad Johnson]

Because you can see, because when you watch him spin the ball and you see the talent, the arm talent and he had legs, he could throw on the move. Brady didn't really throw in the move. You go back. Manning didn't really throw on the move. Breeze didn't really throw on the move. Rogers was pinpoint. It didn't matter. You can flesh flushing left. If you flush him right, you get him away from his dominant hands. He could still roll left, open his hips and throw the ball on target. You flush him out of the pocket to his dominant arm. He can throw the ball on top, on point. You keep him in the pocket. He could change arm slots. He can go over the top, he can go side, he can go three quarters, it didn't matter. So I, I think, and like I said, this is Ryan saying I believe those because I believe Ryan is speaking purely from a standpoint of physical things that I can see. I can't see. I mean, arms, arm. They don't. Neither. All. Neither one of those three neither. Those three didn't have no strong arms. They weren't the most mobile. They couldn't run.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Very accurate, though.

[Chad Johnson]

They look at Josh Allen as generational. He's 6 foot 5. He could run. He's got an arm. He can throw it through a hurricane. They look at him as generational because he has physical traits that you can see what breeze and Brady and Manning possess. You can't see it, Ocho. So that's. I think that's the thing. And people like. Hold on. You say they're not generational. You talking about maybe two are going to be. Ain't getting out the top five. Two of those. Two of those guys that you mentioned not getting out of the top five. Brady's going to be one and man is going to be somewhere between two and five. It all depends. You got him in front of Montana, you got him behind Montana, you got him in front of Mahomes, you got him behind Mahomes. They. But that's it. So I, I think for me, like I said, I mean, we heard the conversation, try to be interested to see what you guys think. But it's interesting that he's like, they're not generational. Actually, Brady and Manning would be what you call transcendence. It's like, it's like when you look at, like people look at Jokic, they're like, well, he can't jump. He ain't got no muscle tone. You look at LeBron, he generational. You see a guy six foot nine, can jump out the gym, could do all this stuff physically that I can see. Ocho Shaq, generational. 7 One could run dominate, pull the backboard down, muscular. So I think, and I don't want to speak for him, but I say, I think Ryan is saying from a. Physically, what I can see, I don't see great arm. I don't see outstanding arm talent like Mahomes, like Josh Allen, like John Elway. I don't see legs like Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts or Randall Cunningham or one of those guys that were mobile. I don't see that. I don't see a guy that can try to change arm slots. I don't see a guy that could. That's just as effective in the pocket as he is out of the pocket. Like I see Aaron Rodgers. So that's my two cents. That was his take on it. I think those guys are, I think, like I said, for me Brady and Manning was transcendent. They're not generation, because the generation is 25 years. These guys are transcendent. So that's, that's what I think about that. Andrew, look.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Wait, Andrew.

[Chad Johnson]

No, no, because they heard the thing. Let me ask you a question. When you, when people looked at Tom Brady at Michigan, nobody said he was transcendent. Nobody said he was. He was a generational. People thought Tom taught Peyton Manning was going to be generational. They talked about him since he was. He got enrolled in school. They talked about him being the number one pick. The same thing with Andrew Luck. The same thing with Trevor Lawrence. Think about when Trevor Lawrence set foot on Clemson. They say when he comes out, he gonna be the number one overall draft pick. I've been. Damn. The same thing they said about. Look, the same thing they said about Elway. To this day, I think Mel Kuiper still say John Elwood is the highest rated quarterback that he's ever graded. He's received the highest grade. But John had things you could see. You saw the arm, you saw the. You saw the legs. Use things that you can see, right? You can't. You can't cut the head open and look at the brain. You just know they're picking your ass apart.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, I, I totally understand what Ryan was saying, especially when you put it in, in a better context like that. You know, with the comparison of Aaron Rodgers and, And the, the other players that he views as generation. Generational talents.

[Chad Johnson]

But. Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, they stand alone in the class for their own for sure. There's some other quarterbacks up there with him, but generational, eh? All right.

[Chad Johnson]

Because when you look at Joe Montana, look at Joe, he had to. He have no cam body, he have no Mahomes arm. He didn't have Lamar legs.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That, that joke was mentally B.

[Chad Johnson]

But that on three steps, five steps, the ball gone.

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[Chad Johnson]

He throwing the ball so you can catch it and run. So I I think that's, that's what he's know he's like I said I don't want to speak for Ryan. He said what he said I didn't see it. I just saw the thing and everybody was it was trending. So I'm like okay, what RC say today? And then, and then I I heard see what he said that those guys wouldn't transcend it. And so I was like, okay, is he Looking at it from a physical, a clearly physical things that he can.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's the only way to look at it, even come up with that. But with. With saying that it has to be what you can see, it has to be that it factor that makes them generational. It's based on the visual. That's the only way to. To gauge it.

[Chad Johnson]

Right. So. But I, I think to say that now after all that they've accomplished, they're at bare minimum generational.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

At bare minimum. After you've seen what they accomplished. Now, if you wanted to oo, if you had not knowing what you know now, if you just see those guys in college, I might could agree with you. I'm not looking at Drew Brees as generational, bro. He not even. He barely six foot tall. He ain't got no big time arm. He's not that mobile. So I'm not looking at him and thinking that. I look at Cam Newton, 6 foot 5, 250, running 4 or 5, can throw the ball 70 yards, can run like a fullback. He's a defensive lineman, tight end in a quarterback's body. I'm looking at Josh Allen, I'm looking at the physical traits. And you was like, physically, he's generational. We seen anything like this? Who had we ever seen like Cam? Who have we seen like Josh Allen? That size with those types of arms.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. They don't come around often. I know that.

[Chad Johnson]

And sometimes like when we look at generational, we're looking at for things that we haven't seen before. You see what I'm saying, Ocho? We're looking for things that we haven't seen. Have we ever seen anything like him? And we might not ever see it again. I thought, unless you taking Josh Allen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I thought we'd see it with our young bull down there in Indiana. I thought we'd see it again.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, oh, Josh Richardson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay. Yeah. So that's it. I mean, hey. Amari Cooper has informed the Las Vegas Raiders he intends to. Man. Just days before the team opens the 2025 season at New England Raiders, OC Chip Kelly called. Said Cooper called coach Pete Carroll in the morning to say he was done playing. It's unfortunate because he's a heck of a football player. He knows in his heart what he wants to do. So I wish him the best.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, what happened, man?

[Chad Johnson]

I think that always. Oo, to be honest, you asked this question. I think that always rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. They sell the physical talent, but they didn't see the Burning passion. That's what you heard about. You heard about that in. In. In. In. In Las Vegas the first time. That's why they traded it. You heard about that at the Cowboys. That's why they did what they did. Immensely. Rot runner extraordinaire. Great run after the catch, but a burning desire.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't think that was it, though.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't. I. I think he was coming in to be wide receiver number one, and things weren't how they probably made it seem they would be once he got there and he realized, okay, this is not.

[Chad Johnson]

They. The Raiders. You're not going to the Eagles. You're not going to Kansas City. Who called him? Look at the team that called you. Shouldn't that tell you something?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, something ain't right. Then. You got. You got Gene. I. Gary, I know I'm right. I know I'm right. I'm. I'm gonna ask him. I'm gonna ask him, you know, you know, you know Amari from the crib, right? From Miami. Yeah, I'm gonna ask him because, I mean, just. It's a great situation. Geno Smith, Aston, Genti, I'm assuming you would be wide receiver number one.

[Chad Johnson]

Brock Bowers.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, that's a great situation to be in. That's. I mean, to me, Las Vegas, I.

[Chad Johnson]

Mean, man, I think Ocho also, look, if your heart ain't in it, it's hard to fake this game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It is.

[Chad Johnson]

It's hard to roll your ass up out of bed. Cause, hey, these licks hurt. And you gotta. You gotta. It's gotta be a desire. You gotta jump out of bed. Because that's why people have success when they enjoy doing what they're doing. When you jump up out of bed, when you look forward to it. Ocho, there was never a day that I didn't look forward to getting my ass up, going to. Going to practice, or going to the game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I have a question.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did Amari even have a chance to practice with them? Did he have a chance to practice?

[Chad Johnson]

Yay, practice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, I get. You know what? He's. He's not. He's not. He could see. This is not going to be what I thought it was. For one, Jacoby Myers is still there, right?

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Number 10. Number 10. I think he's. I think number Deontay Thornton. I don't know if I'm saying his name the right way. Boy. Young bull can go. And I think he might be the one they're viewing as wide receiver number one. So Amari didn't like the situation they were putting him in.

[Chad Johnson]

You knew that before you went there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Just saying. I guarantee that's why he said, you know what? Nah, this ain't it, Ocho. This ain't it.

[Chad Johnson]

Tell me. Let me ask you a question. When the free agent window opened up, who called him? When team started OTAs, who called him? When training camp started, who called him? That don't tell you nothing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got you. I'm just telling you. Why. Why you say that? Nah, this ain't it. I'm. I'm gonna hang it up. This ain't it. Hey, but I know one thing. He's got the money. They got. They got a nice little. Nice little. Nice little setup over there.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, if. If your heart in. In it, you should. That's what. That's what you should do. Ojo. Hang it up. Don't go out there. Waste them people time. Waste your time. Take money from them. Take a position from somebody else. Let somebody that desire have a burning desire that wants to be out there. Let them go down. That Amari Cooper's made tons of money. He good. But if your heart ain't in it, go ahead and step aside. Go and step aside. That's why we do what we do at Nightcap. I get excited to do nightcap. I don't like. Oh, man. Damn. We gotta do nightcap tonight. Bam. Call out, Bam. I gotta go. I gotta go on the roadtable tape. Another club. Shay. Shay. I don't. I don't say that because I. I enjoy what I do now. If and when they come a time, it's gonna be the Ocho and Somebody else show. Ocho and somebody. Nightcap. Ocho, I told you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You can't leave because we haven't even started. We haven't even. We haven't even going into our second half of our show.

[Chad Johnson]

Ocho. You do really? I'm 57.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's gonna make it so fun.

[Chad Johnson]

How long you want me. How long you want me to do this?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, not. Not Uncle. No, Joe. I'm talking about our other show that Adventures. The Adventures of Uncle Ocho Outdoor activities. We ain't even got. We.

[Chad Johnson]

How long you want me to do this? I'm 57 still. You ain't answered that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did you ever see the movie Two Grumpy Old Men? That's gonna be us. That's. That's gonna be us.

[Chad Johnson]

Two grumpy old. Oh, Jack Lemon. And roll off the map.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, man, I'm telling you, we. Hey, listen, we're gonna do this thing to the wheels fall off again and we don't have anything. Everything that's being filmed content wise. It's all the young kids. Like we have to have some for, for our age groups doing stuff the old folks like to do, you know, jumping out of planes, you know, going fishing, barbecuing, listening to Frankie Beverly and Maze.

[Chad Johnson]

First of all, you don't know how to skew.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Chad Johnson]

You don't know how to barbecue.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no, I'm not gonna be. You gonna cook, man?

[Chad Johnson]

I definitely don't know. I definitely don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm gonna be the dj. I'm gonna be the dj. I'm invite the old folks.

[Chad Johnson]

I. I hired somebody to barbecue.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, that'll work. That'll work. That'll work. That'll work.

[Chad Johnson]

We got something coming. We got something planned. We got some plan.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Anthony Richardson, agent. I guess it's Derek. John Jackson met in person last week with GM Chris Ballard to clear the air. Jackson called the meeting. A very constructive opportunity to let feelings be known. According to espn, the report says a trade was not requested but was broached in the meeting. And that ballot reiterated the Colts don't plan to trade Richardson. No, hold on. I'm trying to let. It was constructive, but let feelings be known. You got Ocho. If Richardson had taken care of his business, would we even be here?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely not. Not.

[Chad Johnson]

So. So it. So, so in other. So we gonna put. Are we gonna shift all the blame and all the owners on the coats? So what is the culpability of the player? We can't say oo. They ain't give him no weapons.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, he got three good ones over there.

[Chad Johnson]

Now he got a. He got a. He got a. A pro all pro running back. He got a solid offensive line.

[Shannon Sharpe]

3. No, actually four good receivers.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm trying to figure out. So. So they talking about to let feelings be known. Your feelings should be hurt. You should be disappointed that he allowed himself to be in this situation. Coach, you knew he was a project. You said that and you said it's going to take time. Yet you threw his ass out there. You didn't have a vet to compete with him and you threw him out there opening week. So you just as responsible he is. Yeah, he can only do what he can do. He only can do what he knows. You said it was a project when you took him. Well, if he is a project, you let him develop. You don't feed him to the. You don't feed him to the wall.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Patience not these days.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, you can't make him a project then. You got to take. You got to take a proven commodity or as close to a proven commodity as you can get.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So many of them. It's only so many of them. You got to understand finding a good quarterback, not a great one. Finding a good quarterback that you can be around.

[Chad Johnson]

True.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It ain't like picking apples off the goddamn tree in the summer. It ain't that easy. Which is why it's so difficult for teams to find someone they can build a franchise around for a decade. It's hard to find your next Lamar Jackson or your Josh Allen. Hell, you, Joe. The. The bangers have been pretty good when it comes to quarterback and receivers, everybody can't be. Green bay only had three quarterbacks in the goddamn past 30 years. It's difficult.

[Chad Johnson]

Here's the problem. Normally people take projects like they did Lamar. They said Lamar was going to be a project. They took him with a 32nd pick. You don't take it with the third pick like they did in San Francisco, like they did in Indy. You take a project with the third pick in the draft. With the fourth pick in the draft.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I have a question.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Every scout, every gm, every owner that looked at Lamar Jackson at Louisville and said, this is the project, had no position, has no business being in whatever position they in. There's no way you saw Lamar Jackson play at Louisville and thought him coming to the NFL, he's a project at the quarterback position.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, I can see why they saw that, because even though he threw the ball, he's like, could he. Could he eventually throw the ball from the pocket? And he shown. I was. I was the guy with like, look. I was like, look, he could got to play quarterback. If he can't hack it at quarterback, then move. But I'm not. I'm. I'm going to play that role first. And if I don't succeed at that. Ocho. Whatever y' all want me to play. Y' all want to play wide receiver? Y' all want to play dp? Y' all want to play running back? I'll do that. But I'm going to get a crack at this quarterback first. Cause y' all let Tebow play quarterback. So I'm damn sure gonna play quarterback. I think I could throw the ball better than him. With that being said, who does San Francisco trade all those picks for? What? Trey Lance, is it. Will he pro. Oh, you move heaven and earth for a project? Oh, hell no. You move that for a Joe Burrow. You move that for a Trevor Lawrence. Don't move. That for no. A guy that plays six that started 16 games and then sat out the next. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey.

[Chad Johnson]

And so that's my problem. My problem with the Colts is that you knew what you was drafting and then you was like, okay, go. This guy is like the heir apparent of a company. He's gonna be CEO one day. When dude get on the job. You make him CEO tomorrow. No. And then you wonder why he didn't succeed. Bro, you said you gonna let him grow into the role. You said you gonna let him transition into the role. You didn't put the. You don't put him in the role immediately.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have to understand, when you take players as high as they took Anthony Richardson, people jobs on the line. People and jobs on the line. So they have no choice but to put them out there and see what you can get. Am I going to get a return on my investment? Because I got to put my investment out there right now. I don't have the patience I need. I want to win right now. I want to win right now.

[Chad Johnson]

Look what Green Bay did. Did they put Aaron Rodgers out there right away?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, they didn't have to. Look who they had.

[Chad Johnson]

They put Lawrence Love. That's oo. My point is, is that what you do? Is that now you get him out there, now you find out that like Trey Lance really, he. He's not a fr. He's not going to be a franchise quarterback. How do you get that taste out your mouth?

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's a toss up.

[Chad Johnson]

Now you've seen two years of work for Richardson. I know they say it publicly, but do you actually think they think he. This guy gonna be a franchise quarterback, Ocho? No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn. Damn.

[Chad Johnson]

Think about it. Patrick Mahomes, they broke. They changed Patrick Mahomes. A lot of his mechanics now look at it didn't start. Then the next year he goes wins a mvp.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He wasn't crazy, boy.

[Chad Johnson]

That's not an accident, Ocho. It's not. Wow. Tim Tebow and Anthony Richardson have identical starts to their careers. Anthony Richardson is 8 and 7. Tim Tebow 8 and 6. Tim Tebow has 23 passing and rushing touchdowns. Richardson has 21. Tebow has 15 turnovers. Richardson has 17 Russian pass yards. Tim Tebow has 3,123. Anthony Richardson have 3,026. Completion percentage 47.4 for Tebow, 50.6 for Richardson.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, I have a question.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Are those numbers good?

[Chad Johnson]

No, they're awful. They are.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have to Say it like that. I just like you supposed to ease your way into answering that.

[Chad Johnson]

No, but they're not, they're not good. And nobody thought Tebow was going to be a franchise quarterback.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You.

[Chad Johnson]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You didn't think Tebow would be a franchise quarterback coming out of Florida after that season he had his senior year. Okay, okay, okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Even after, even after that game he had against Cincinnati where He threw for 400 yards. No. You got to be able to throw the football consistently and accurately to be that in the NFL. And if you can't, you're not run. You're not going to run your way to a championship. Those days are over.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That is true.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. I mean Tebow did win a playoff game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. I remember Damaris.

[Chad Johnson]

Tim Tebow wanted. He won a division.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That. It was that defense though, huh? That defense was really good.

[Chad Johnson]

The defense was really good. So.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn.

[Chad Johnson]

Richardson need to get with a, find him a George Whitfield or Tom House, work with some mechanics and, and, and, and, and, and put time in the film room. I don't, I don't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, but he has to watch.

[Chad Johnson]

Study film, watch film, try to get better.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He has to want it.

[Chad Johnson]

We say this all the time. You can't want something for someone more than they want it for themselves.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, maybe this might be a wake up call. I don't, I don't think he understands, understands the seriousness of. It's your third year. Like this season is your. Make it a break a year, what it was supposed to be, obviously not starting. And then they're not trading Anthony Richardson. Why they're not trading them because they don't really fully trust Daniel Jones. They trust.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, they're not trading him. Oo because even if you do trade him, you'll never get the value that you, that you take a fourth round pick, a first, a four, the fourth pick in the draft. You think somebody would give you a first round question. What type of draft pick you think somebody give you for Anthony Richardson right now?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No.

[Chad Johnson]

Third or fourth at the highest.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know what they would hang up the phone. You hang up the phone.

[Chad Johnson]

Hang up the phone.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What they would, they would give you for him. But still they're not going to let them go for the simple fact there's no answer. If Daniel Jones starts playing, playing bad, there's nothing else to go to. So we have to have someone to fall back on if things don't go right.

[Chad Johnson]

Oo, you know, Powerball 1.7 billion. If I had 5,900. I'd buy 5,900.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We gonna win that too.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm telling. I'm telling you what's gonna happen. I. I can see the future. I can see the future. I'm going.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, I can't buy no tickets.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Why not?

[Chad Johnson]

You can't buy tickets in Vegas. What? You can't play lottery with the casinos.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, I play for you. I play for you.

[Chad Johnson]

All right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I play for you. And what I told. I told you when I win. I got you. I got you. I'm away. I'm win 1.7.

[Chad Johnson]

I tell you what. When I win, I'm gonna pay off all your bills.

[Shannon Sharpe]

All who bills?

[Chad Johnson]

Your house.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm. I'm going to win. I already know what I'm gonna do. I told you no.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm gonna move right next to you. I'm about a house next to you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ain't no house next to me.

[Chad Johnson]

Play my music loud. Let my dogs run in your yard.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I make. I have all my kids come knock on your door.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, I might even take me a poop in your yard.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. I steal your dogs.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, you remember that movie with Samuel L. Jackson when he was that neighbor? He was cutting out each other.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Lakeview Terrace.

[Chad Johnson]

Lakeview Terrace. That's me.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay, okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, hey.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hell in that movie, boy, he gave buddy.

[Chad Johnson]

Hell yeah. You don't have the truth based on the true story too. Ocho. All right, Ocho. It's time for our final segment of the evening. Chad, thank you guys for staying with us. We know it's almost 2 o' clock on the East coast, man. Well, it's after 2 o' clock on the east coast and you guys are still with us, man. We can't thank you guys enough. So thank you very much. It's time for Q A. Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, Q and A.

[Chad Johnson]

Titan guy said, don't go in the woods with Shay. You owe him 5,900.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, shoot. Are you think. See, I wasn't thinking like that. So you think he might do something to me? Like I might come up missing? Okay, I like that. I like that. I like. But see, it came because it's being filmed. You know it's being filmed. We're gonna have our own YouTube and Twitch channel, so it's gonna be live that ventures of. We can go Cut. I'm. I'm just thinking about all the things we could do, man. Hunting grizzlies, deer, squirrels. Oh, that. Oh, boy. It's so much untapped potential that's out there that. That, like, nobody's touched these spaces in these lanes that we can dominate in. But go ahead.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay. Aaron Owen said Jalen Carter is wild for getting ejected. At least make two. Make a play or two before you crash out. Aaron, you're absolutely right. I don't know if I've. I don't know if I've ever seen the. Seen that happen. Ocho get ejected before the game?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No. During. Yes. Before. No.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Excuse me. Howard Bell said. Not gonna lie. If Jalen Carter teammate. I'm looking at him sideways. The Eagles held their own. But it almost cost him the game. Yes, it absolutely did.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Almost.

[Chad Johnson]

2 live underscore Canada said Dak deserve a fine for instigating, but Jayla, low key done for retaliatory. I'm an Eagles fan, but I'm cool with the suspension. I'm telling Dak I'll see you real soon if I'm Jalen Carter. Lyman ain't defending your spit back. I'm just gonna go out there and get me, you know, free rush. Yeah, exactly. That's what I said. Ocho. I'm gonna get. Don't even worry about it back. I get you. I get you. I'm gonna get you. Aaron Jones said to say Dak baited him. You admitted he was wrong. Just stop, Shannon. That's the whole objective, Aaron.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. It's debate.

[Chad Johnson]

To get him to do something, if.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's the point.

[Chad Johnson]

If I can get you thrown out of the game. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. That's my job. That's why we talk trash. To get you out of your game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Man. Crazy. What if he spits at you and smirks, which looks like Dak did disrespectfully. Long as you spit on the ground. I don't give a damn where you spit. Long as long as it ain't y' all still. Y'. All. Ocho, they tried it. They tried the way to make Jay look all the right in this situation.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know they are. Okay. You know who I might spit on? I'mma spit on Debo. Now I'm. I'm gonna make. I'm gonna make him fight me. I'm gonna make him fight.

[Chad Johnson]

He gonna fight you. All right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You.

[Chad Johnson]

You gotta.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no, no, no, no, no. Because I. I want. I want him extremely mad. I want him angry. I want him to exert so much energy trying to hurt me where I use it against him. Because I'm gonna be nice and calm and relaxed.

[Chad Johnson]

I don't know. Not no mma. You Ain't gonna be nice.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man. All right. You don't believe in your co host. Yeah, I bet you Chat believe in me chat come February time. Guarantee you I beat debo ass. I guarantee you. Tell you, man. Man ain't got no. He don't got. He don't got no combat. Combat sports background. Like me.

[Chad Johnson]

Said, dad just be spitting everywhere he goes on the sidelines. You see him spitting? The amateur said that. Got that hot to it. He should be happy. Galactic Ghoul said, go Birds. Dak deserve it. John Maybang. I think that tackle by Dak saved the touchdown on a fumble is underrated. You absolutely right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Really good play.

[Chad Johnson]

48 Getting ready to fill the rate. Getting ready to turn around, turn back. Bro, ain't nobody in front of you to block. Somebody gonna come from the back. Money made parcelist Cowboys hell saquon to 60 yards rushing. Steven said. Steven said. Zach Bond is an all Pro, not some chump. He not known for speed, though. I ain't say he was a chump. I know he's a phenomenal player. Quentin Mobley. Mobley. Oo. Please make sure you change Miles Sanders speed on Madden like yesterday. Not tomorrow, not Saturday, but yesterday. Asap. Love the show. Yeah, whatever his speed is. Ocho got to dock him by five or six.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I got no five or six. Too much. I dock him by three by three. Three. Three.

[Chad Johnson]

What is the speed?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know. I'm not sure what it is. I'm not sure what it.

[Chad Johnson]

Brother Sea says oo breath be stanking. Damn. Oo. How you know?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't know. He just making up stuff, you know, Nobody. Nobody.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay. Jamar Thomas said Philly secondary sketchy. Detroit will run them. Will run to them on score. On them. I don't respect Philly or Jaylen Carter. He got about. You got about a 90. Ocho, for real on speed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's. That's. That's kind of fast, too, now.

[Chad Johnson]

Exactly.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You got to drop him down to 8.

[Chad Johnson]

91 on acceleration, drop him down to 88. 88, my ass. 72 stirred down. Said. Do you think Herbert can take a step? He needs to become an elite quarterback. If he wins a playoff game or two, does he slide into the Big Four? Who? Justin Herbert.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Listen, you know. You know they gonna plug Justin Herbert into that Big Four based on intangibles alone. They gonna keep putting them in there. Keep putting them in there. And conversation. Hell, Dan Olofsky today, you saw him talk about his next five. Justin Herbert is in that next five along with CJ Stroud and Jaden Daniels. Hell, even had Kyler Murray in there.

[Chad Johnson]

That injury kind of set Kyler back and then losing D Hop. Yeah, I mean he got Harris, he got a Marvin Harrison Jr. Now. So it'd be, it'd be. It'll be interesting to see what he looks like this year. Look, he was mvp. I mean he's offensive rookie of the year. He's been, he's been. Been to the Pro Bowl. I mean, I think Kyler Murray's been to the Pro bowl, hadn't he? I think he's, he's, he's. But he's. He's not just gonna beat you in the pocket. Oh, Joe, his legs. He's. He's one of those quarterbacks like a Lamar and a Josh Allen that his legs are dangerous. Yeah, he two time Pro bowl player, so I would have thought he'd already been there by now. Me personally, msq, Oak, Uncle Nocho. If you had a game with an all time NFC versus an all time AFC team, who comes out on top of. Oh my goodness. Man. NFC got some deep. Look, you think they got. They got LT Reggie and time with Dick Buckers. So that's your defense. So you go put Montana, Jerry Rice, Walter Payton, probably Barry.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Damn, I forgot that. That is all nfc. Shoot.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, tight end. The AFC got the tight ends. Cause all the tight ends, because most of the tight ends are in the hall of Fame. You got Big Kellen, Ozzy, Myself, Gates, Gonzo, you gonna have Gronk, you gonna have Kelsey, you got Casper, who's in the hall. So most of the time I'm trying to say who's all in the hunt for. You got Charlie Sanders and you got Jack Michelle, I don't think you got Indica. Cause you got Mackie. So most of the tight ends, that's a good one. AFC quarterback is gonna be Brady. Who the running backs. And you got Moss was in the nfc.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

I think the don't see go. What you thinking, Ocho?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Shoot.

[Chad Johnson]

You got Rick, you got. Think about it. You got Aaron Donald, you got Reggie White, you got Lawrence Taylor, you got Time. You got Buckers, you got Ronnie Lott.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got to be something. I'm trying, I'm trying. It's hard for me. I'm trying to think my brain, my brain right now.

[Chad Johnson]

You got Deacon Jones, you got Merlin Olsen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's a. That's all NFC though.

[Chad Johnson]

I know. That's what I'm saying. Running back. You got Walter Payton, you got Emmett Smith, you got Eric Dickinson, you Got Barry Sanders.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Them boys loaded, boy. I mean afc, afc, afc. Have you, you, you, you know the, the old school players a little better than I do. Afc. I know we got some on that side too now.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I'm trying to think running backs, afc. O.J. simpson, will proc. O.J. simpson. Who else in the hall of fame? Adan James, E.J. jerome Bettis. Quarterbacks. You got Brady. Tight ends. We got the tight end. We go, we gonna dog walk them in. Tight ends. Who you gonna be? Your ride receivers. Oh, yeah, you got. We got lt Ladania. Who gonna be? Who you gonna be Ride receivers for the afc.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We got Moss. I'm going to no New England Moss.

[Chad Johnson]

What about Minnesota?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, we're going New England Moss. The Most that scored 23 touchdowns. Trying to think who else we got AFC receivers. A B AB.

[Chad Johnson]

Lance Allworth.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Well, hell, Andre Reed.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, I'm in the afc.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm going to where Eric Moes at.

[Chad Johnson]

Man, I don't know. Shizzle Flex says. All I know is Burrow get passes for missing the playoffs with a bad defense. But in 23 Hertz had the 31st ranked defense and still won 11 games. He lie. Quentin May says, what do you think the best separate who got the best separation tonight? Are you talking about wide receiver? Didn't look like a whole lot of people because on 20 you have on 19 completion you had 152 yards. That's, that's less than seven. That's less than eight yards of completion. That ain't good. So it don't seem like a whole lot of people got celebrations. One thing Ekberg says CD just showed why Jerry Rice is the goat. He puts that game away on ice and catches the Pickens one hander. Yeah, I mean, look, CD you got to make those clutches. It's really that simple. Let's not belabor it. Ojo and I, we hit on this early in the show. CD got to make those catches. He's good enough to make those catches. He expects himself to make those catches. Dak and Jerry Jones definitely expect him to make those catches. And Cowboy Nation expect them to make that those catches. Dagnante Cobbins says, I don't care who spit first or second. If you spit on me, it's gonna be a balloon release. Right where you spit at?

[Shannon Sharpe]

A balloon release.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, last year you let oo know how sorry the Bengals were and made oo cry. Please go ease on Ocho. This year we good, we good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This year we good.

[Chad Johnson]

This year who y' all play this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Year I mean, just in general, we gonna be good.

[Chad Johnson]

The Bengals. The Bengals. Oh, y' all got. Y' all got Cleveland, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

One.

[Chad Johnson]

Miles. Gary had about three sacks.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he. I. I give Miles Garrett one sack. Yeah, I give. I give him one.

[Chad Johnson]

You ain't gonna give him nothing. He gonna get. He gonna get that on his own, but he gonna get another.

[Shannon Sharpe]

With all due respect to him and that defense, the Brown defense is good. I ever hear people always making jokes in the chat. Oh, the Browns suck. You think. When you think about the Browns. Listen, the Browns front four are really good, and they're. That Denzel Ward, man, I didn't talk enough about him. We were. He's special.

[Chad Johnson]

Northbound media said, football is back. Love, nightcap. Need. Need me. Sterling jersey. Good luck finding it. I don't know if they still make 84 sharp jerseys in Green Bay, but. Okay, bro. Morris said, uncle Nocho, what book? Not the Bible. Change your life and would you do a handout to others as a gift? Okay. Change your life and you. And I guess he said, would you. Or do you hand out other others as gift? Oh, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What happened?

[Chad Johnson]

Trying to think, what book would I give someone other than the Bible? I'm trying to think, what hell book have I read? I hadn't read a book in so long.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Trying to think.

[Chad Johnson]

I did. I did. I think I read Rich Dad, Poor dad many, many years, many years ago. I'm trying to think what book that I read that I really enjoy that I would recommend somebody. I ain't read that. I just. Yeah, yeah, they probably left it in here. We're gonna have to get back to that. I don't know. I'm trying to think what book I'll actually give someone. Dr. Frank L. Bellamy said, oh, that's crazy. How I just asked you about Michael Irving and then, boom, he was on Club Shay Shay with that intuition. I brought a lottery ticket. Can't wait to see y' all debate on.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That was funny, boy. Boy, that's. That thing that was funny when Irv say, he put. I put that million dollar check on that, babe.

[Chad Johnson]

That's. But look here. I can honestly say that man has not changed. He'd been that way since the day I met him at the Pro bowl in 91. No, what? What? I mean, Mike. 92. 92. He. He's just a great guy. John Marshall said, love the show. Got the hof. Lb. Packaging is amazing. John, appreciate the support, man. Thank you. Thank you very much. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank each and Every one of you. We know it's extremely late. We cannot thank you enough for showing your support. And, and that's why we're special. That's what, that's what makes you special. Because nobody else at this time of night but you chose to spend a couple of hours with us and we can't thank you enough. So thank you, Chat. Give yourself a round of applause because you were special tonight. We really appreciate that. NFL, don't delay. No more games. Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp, my partner and co host. He's Liberty City's own Matting's ratings adjuster, Bingo's ring of fame honoree, Pro Bowler, He's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And do us all a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed, wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you again for your support and your continued support. Because of you, Nightcap is what it's become. Make sure you check out my Laportier Shade by Laportier. If you can't find it in a city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. Please drink responsibly and it's the best tasting VSOP cognac on the market. Don't take my word for it. Try it for yourself. And to commemorate my brother being elected, selected to the Pro Football hall of Fame, we've come up with a commemorative bottle of Shea by La Portier. You look at the packaging on your screen. Just head over to laportiercognac.com to grab yours while supplies last. Thank you to each and every one of you that have purchased one and we can't thank you enough. Please go follow my media company page on all of his platforms, Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out. That link is pinned in the chat. We've got a new show launched under the umbrella of Shayshay Media, the Debo and Joe show with James Harrison and Joe Hayden. Please go subscribe and check out their YouTube page. Debo and Joe. They'll be live tomorrow morning at 11am Their days are Monday. The days are Monday, Tuesday and Friday at 11am Eastern Time. Go show them a little love. The Eagles opened the season trying to defend their super bowl, the last year's super bowl with a win at home. 24:20 Jalen Hurt rushed for two touchdowns, CD have four costly drops and Jalen Carter gets ejected from the game without paying, playing a snap for spitting on Dak Prescott. Thank you guys for joining us. I'm Unk, he's Ocho. We'll see you tonight. Peace.

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[Chad Johnson]

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