Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Shedeur Not Buying it + E.D. SPILLING THE TEA on Shedeur

Summary

Club Shay Shay — Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho React to Shedeur Not Buying It + E.D. Spilling the Tea on Shedeur

Date: August 22, 2025
Hosts: Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ocho Cinco" Johnson
Special Guest (Referenced): Eric Dickerson

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Episode Overview

In this episode of the "Club Shay Shay" Nightcap, Shannon Sharpe and Chad Johnson react in real-time to the ongoing drama surrounding NFL rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders. They break down Shedeur's response to critical comments from another player (Dylan Gabriel) and discuss bombshell allegations—brought forth by Hall of Famer Eric Dickerson—that the NFL may have orchestrated Sanders' draft slide. The episode weaves in broader commentary on NFL politics, salaries, and athlete treatment, along with a few new developments around the league. With trademark humor, honesty, and athlete insight, Unc and Ocho keep it all-the-way real.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Shedeur Sanders Responds to Critics & NFL Draft Drama

• Shedeur’s Calm Reaction to Criticism

  • Shedeur Sanders emphasizes he doesn’t let others’ words or criticism affect him:

    "I know that God put the ability and the power within me to not even think about nobody else[’s] comments, not care. It is what it is.”
    — Shedeur Sanders [02:15]

  • He shares a conversation he had with Dylan Gabriel, disputing the intent behind critical comments.
  • Chad and Shannon agree Shedeur is well-coached and savvy about media but suggest he’s laughing off more than he lets on.

    "He did a lot of laughing in that to keep from saying what he really felt."
    — Shannon Sharpe [05:44]

• Ownership of the Narrative

  • Chad Johnson: “He just want[s] to play ball, baby. That’s it. I want my opportunity. I want my chance to shine. All the outside noise, all the distractions—I ain’t paying none of that no mind.” [03:14]

• NFL Team Politics, Collusion Allegations & Eric Dickerson’s ‘Tea’

  • Shannon drops the bombshell from Eric Dickerson:

    "According to Pro Football Hall of Famer Eric Dickerson, the NFL told teams not to draft Shador. The NFL told teams, don’t draft him. We're going to make an example out of him."
    — Shannon Sharpe [07:00]

  • Dickerson claims some league officials pressured the Browns to draft Shedeur in the fifth round after an orchestrated slide.
  • The conversation expands into speculation on collusion, referencing similar situations (e.g., Michael Sam), and debates about quarterback evaluation and salary suppression.

• Salary Suppression & Broader Impacts

  • Shannon compares NFL wage suppression to America’s stagnant minimum wage and corporate behavior:

    "While everything explodes, let’s suppress the players. Am I missing something, Ocho?"
    — Shannon Sharpe [10:03]

  • Chad and Shannon highlight the gap between NFL revenue growth and player compensation, linking to the motivations for draft manipulation.

• Media Spotlight & Backup Quarterback Drama

  • Urban Meyer likens Shedeur’s spotlight to Tim Tebow’s, arguing such attention is a liability for backup QBs.
  • Shannon disputes the logic, noting Shedeur hasn’t even started yet.

2. NFL Draft & Team Decisions

• Draft Analysis
  • Chad:

    "If you watch the game of football... You look at the quarterbacks that went before Shador. I mean, hello. The only one who’s looked decent this offseason... plays in New York." [10:28]

  • Discussion around teams that passed on Shedeur (Saints, Steelers, etc.) and media figures like Mel Kiper expressing disbelief at his drop.

3. Salary Structures, Franchise Values & Player Compensation

• Breakdown of how NFL team values and revenues have ballooned, but direct player compensation (especially for incoming rookies) remains comparatively suppressed.
• Shannon highlights the massive TV checks teams receive ($432M per team, not counting other cash flows) [09:00].

4. Colts Quarterback Developments: Daniel Jones & Anthony Richardson

• Debrief on the Colts’ naming Daniel Jones as starter over Anthony Richardson, with Ocho and Unc dissecting the implications.
• Discussion of team decisions, contract logic, and player development:
  • "You chose that. They chose Daniel Jones." — Shannon Sharpe [27:04]
• Critique of throwing "project" QBs into the fire too soon, with comparisons to Carson Palmer, Mahomes, Flacco, etc.

5. Bill Belichick’s Comments Post-Patriots

• Belichick appears to critique his time in New England, lamenting the presence of ownership in pro sports.
  • "No owner. There’s no owner’s son. Lord have mercy." [33:26]
• Shannon pushes back, reminding listeners how much control Belichick actually had during his Patriots tenure.
• Ocho shares the “real side” of Belichick’s personality, unseen by most fans.

6. NFL News Bites & Lighter Moments

• Lamar Jackson’s practice scare (foot injury)—downplayed after initial reports.
  • "Listen, Lamar ain’t made of glass... he gonna be all right." — Chad Johnson [41:21]
• Quick-hitting team trade moves (Skyy Moore to 49ers, others).
• Storytime: Woman loses $1.3M lottery winnings after hiding it from her ex during divorce, leading to a playful back-and-forth on money, relationships, and the lottery.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On NFL Collusion Allegations:

  "This came from a very good source... the NFL told teams, don’t draft him, do not draft him. We're going to make an example out of him."
  — Shannon Sharpe (relaying Eric Dickerson) [11:48]

• Ocho on Team Loyalty:

  "This the NFL. We ain't here to make friends... I got mouths to feed, child support. What we talking about?"
  — Chad Johnson [04:34]

• Shannon on Draft Realities:

  "Ocho, this is what Ed said. This is his full quote..." (lays out the Dickerson allegation in detail) [11:48]

• On Media Hype vs. Performance:

  "I couldn’t tell you who the first pick in the draft was... but you know what Bronny James [was drafted], everybody talk. They’re talking about Shador like he should have been first overall."
  — Shannon Sharpe [21:18]

• On Backup QB Media Distraction:

  "If you’re a backup quarterback, they don’t want all this media attention on one player. Coaches want team, no distractions."
  — Shannon Sharpe, reflecting Urban Meyer’s comments [18:17]

• Lottery Tale Laughter:
  The pair get animated on marriage, money, and what they'd do with a lotto win:

  "You win 500 million, you taking a lump sum... you probably get about 180 million."
  — Shannon Sharpe [49:03]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------------|-------------| | Shedeur responds to Gabriel’s comments | 02:06–03:04 | | Eric Dickerson’s “spill the tea” | 07:00–11:48 | | NFL revenue vs. player compensation | 08:01–10:03 | | Chad & Shannon discuss Saints/Steelers QBs| 10:30–11:15 | | Urban Meyer’s comments on media attention | 18:17–21:18 | | Colts QB decision—Jones over Richardson | 23:00–31:33 | | Bill Belichick’s comments post-Pats | 33:26–36:57 | | Lamar Jackson injury scare | 40:53–42:29 | | Notable trades & player moves | 43:10–45:01 | | Lottery/divorce story & money jokes | 46:10–52:13 |

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Closing Thoughts

As always, Shannon and Chad blend inside access with humor and critique, keeping listeners on the pulse of NFL news and exploring off-the-field impacts. The episode excels in contextualizing Shedeur Sanders’ situation and the forces at play in NFL front office politics. The show ends with Q&A and good-natured banter, reiterating the core of Club Shay Shay: authenticity, banter, and a window into the real talk behind professional sports.

For new listeners: This episode is a masterclass in how professional athletes think, compete, and respond to the business of sports, all wrapped in Unc & Ocho’s trademark style.

Transcript

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Shador responded to Dylan Gabriel's comments for the first time today. Oo, let's take a listen. What Shador had to say.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shador Sanders]

Honestly, I don't, I don't even think about nothing. I don't think about anything if it's not words or anything. You know, at this point I can't.

[Chad Johnson]

Do anything to me.

[Shador Sanders]

You know, I know you know that God put the ability and the power within me to not even think about nobody else. Comments, not care. It is what it is. I spoke with him, he said, nah bro, that wasn't. He said that wasn't. He told me on the plane. He came up, he was like, nah bro, that wasn't that true. I see how they trying to spin. I'm like, oh, all right. I'm not tripping. Regardless of whatever it was. I don't. Nobody's words or anything affects me, you know? So yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So did you believe him when he told you it was around you?

[Shador Sanders]

Did I Believe him. I mean, I feel like you trying to start stuff now. I feel like you trying to start stuff. I mean, he doing his job. He's supposed to do. I feel like he did. I don't know. And that's not on me to sit here and be like, oh, he did.

[Chad Johnson]

He did it.

[Shador Sanders]

That's not gonna change my life in any way.

[Chat Participant]

Oh.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So when they ask you, did you believe it? He could say, yeah, I believe it. What do you say? He's ain't enough for me to believe it. He know what it was.

[Chad Johnson]

You can't.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, you know what it was.

[Chad Johnson]

You know? He don't care nothing about that. He don't care. Hey, he just want to play ball, baby. That's it. I want my opportunity. I want my chance to shine. All the outside noise, all the distractions. I ain't paying none of that no mind.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He distracts you. He started this. He started do. Look, Shador at this point says, look, what someone says is not going to impact. Doesn't make me better, doesn't make me worse. What somebody has to say, I still have to go out there and do my job.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And when given the opportunity, that's exactly what I'll do. Cut.

[Chad Johnson]

He's been going through this for a minute. Huh? This is the first time somebody has something to say about him. They've been. They've been digging at him for. For a long time. He's been prepared for this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, but normally the people that's taking shots at me ain't on my team. That'd be. That. That'd be. That'd be like. That'd be like the team. We. We. We a family here. Now somebody else taking shots. Okay, we deal with that. We. We. Hey, we come together. Yeah. Oh, you let that go. But we can't be. We can't be throwing rocks inside our own house and break out a window.

[Chad Johnson]

Get me, boy, this the NFL. We ain't here to make friends.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm here.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm here. I'm here to take your job. I got. I got kids. I got miles. The baby need milk. Child support. Dude, yeah. Made his Mercedes Benz. I got to pay the bill. I got mortgage. I ain't here to be your friend. I'm not supported like you. We here to compete. What we talking about? Okay, man, please. I don't see you. I got mouths to feed, child.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Interesting. I wonder. I wonder if. If that was the situation and then ask you something about something like, look, hey, I don't care if the guy came from the same team I came from. Hey, we went to college together. I don't care enough about that. I'm here to compete.

[Chad Johnson]

They should have asked. I would have answered it the right way. I would have answered it the right way.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think I. I think Shador has been coached very, very well, but he did a lot of laughing in that to keep from saying what he really felt and how he really felt. You know, you notice that Ocho, he's laughed pretty much the whole interview.

[Chad Johnson]

He's savvy. He's. He's. He's. He's savvy in front of that camera. He's been doing it for so long, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Chad Johnson]

Doing it for a minute.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's just tough at the end of the day, look, get my opportunities. What he or somebody says about me doesn't change my. It doesn't make me play better, it doesn't make me play worse.

[Chat Participant]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's his opinion. He said what? He said I just have to do what I have to do. Once I get off, when I get my opportunity, I go make plays. That's it. It's really that simple, Ocho. I mean, there ain't really. There's not a whole lot of other ways around it. There's no sense in me saying, oh, oh, this, that, whatever. At the end of the day, this is what it's about, and I'm gonna go do my job and. But it gets even more interesting. According to Pro Football hall of Famer Eric Dickerson, the NFL told teams not to draft Shador. The NFL told teams, don't draft him. We're going to make an example out of him. Somebody called the Browns and said, don't do that. Don't draft it. Or it says, don't not draft him. Right. Because he said, don't draft him. But the Browns end up taking him. Or don't do him like that. Oh, but the Browns took. Okay, wow. Somebody called the browser said, don't do that. Don't draft him. Now, we have a case study. I mean, the judge once said that he believed that the. They were in collusion. There's a text message chain that email Jeff Pash and Roger Goodell. They've gotten better now. Well, basically, it looks like they are saying, hey, we gotta keep these salaries down. They're getting out of control. So this is not out of the realm of possibility. But I get that, Ocho. I get that.

[Chat Participant]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

We wanna suppress the salaries for as long as we can to keep them from skyrocketing. Even. Even Though the value of teams are increasing exponentially. The revenue is increasing exponentially, but revenue is increasing, but we want to keep wages low. It's kind of like. It's kind of like what we see in the real world. Minimum wage ain't moved in years.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What are the minimum wage? 757, 30. 750 in that minimum wage. I think 750 because it used to be 337. I remember when I was a kid, it was 337 an hour. Now it's 750. Seven hundred and twenty five. My bad. I, I, I gave y' all a quarter more than you had, Ocho. So you see all these wages, CEOs, CFO, COOs. We see everybody but the worker. His wage, his or her wages are still 725. That's minimum. So let me. So in other words, everything gets to increase. The cost of living goes up. Housing, food, cars, wages stays the same. I see my bosses, I see everybody else is going here, but the workers, they stay here. So as the players are seeing, like these franchises going for 6 billion, the valuation is 10 billion. The evaluation is 12 billion. We see TV revenue. What? ESPN, what? Amazon, Netflix, NBC, CBS. We see what they're willing to pay. So those are increasing. They gotta check every listen, chat. Every team got a check for 432 million. That's before. That's just from TV. Now, I didn't mention anything about local television, local advertising, parking, ticket sales, concession merchandise. I didn't mention anything about that.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So while everything explodes, let's suppress the players. Am I, am I missing something, Ocho?

[Chad Johnson]

No, you're not. But that. Listen, when we watch the draft, you wonder why Mel Kuiper was going off the way he was.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Man, Mel was losing his mind.

[Chad Johnson]

Losing his mind because he know good and well he was a top three pick in the first round. He knew that. We all knew that. If you watch the game of football, if you look at the quarterbacks that went before Shador, I mean, hello. The only one who's looked decent this off season, this preseason. He plays in New York. He plays in New York. Outside of that, the Saints still don't have a quarterback.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nope.

[Chad Johnson]

The Saints picked that nine, if I'm not mistaken, Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think there might have been nine.

[Chad Johnson]

The Steelers still on 21.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

I mean, come on, man. Come on, man. And then the people that are oblivious that. That purposely turned the blind eye and act oblivious. Oh, why would the owners collude? Why would they care? I'm like, you know, and it's like. It's almost like you can't be that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You can't naive.

[Chad Johnson]

Come on, man. Y' all pick and choose when to when. When to use logic, when to have common sense, when to see the bigger picture, when to understand why they would this specific individual like, come on, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, this is what Ed said. This is his full quote. I tell you this much, what I heard from someone that's in the NFL that the NFL told teams, don't draft him, do not draft him. We're going to make an example out of him. And this came from a very good source. A very good source. But apparently Shador had fallen much further than anticipated. And some league officials called the Browns and forced them to take him with 144th overall pick. He. He said that. I won't say who. Somebody called the Cleveland Browns and said, don't do that drafting, because they weren't going to draft him either. They were forced into drafting him because somebody made that call to them. I heard a very similar situation with the Michael Sam situation. So this is not. Now, I'm not. Listen, I'm not saying that this is true. I'm not saying the Michael Sams situation is true, but I did hear that. That there was a call. And it's funny that the Rams drafted the kid from Missouri.

[Chad Johnson]

He wasn't that good, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, he wasn't. No, he wasn't. He wasn't. I mean, some tried to make it about his orientation, but Ocho, if he could have got 15 sacks, hell, his boyfriend could have been a cheerleader, they would. They wouldn't have gave a damn bad. Please. Hey, you know, the NFL is a business. They buy a. Can you do whatever your position is, can you do it? If you're a quarterback, can you throw? If you're a receiver, can you catch? If you're a db, can you. If you db, can you break up the ball, knock the ball down? If you d. Lineman Ocho, can you be in the edge? Can you get to the quarterback? I don't care. All that other stuff about that.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, that was funny, but. Hey, that was funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm just being true. The thing is the chat, though, I'm telling the truth. If I don't care nothing about that.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, man, they're in the business.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We go try to find the guys that can. That can get the job done.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. No matter what you are, you're right. You write about that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Whatever you believe in, whatever, that ain't got nothing. Hey, that's. That's. You Doing that on your time. I ain't policing. I ain't policing nobody bedroom. They home or nothing. What you say if you can get 15 sacks?

[Chad Johnson]

His boyfriend could be a chili, though.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, people get. People get mad about that, man. They've been there, man. People just be finding stuff to get mad about, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

All right. I mean, what. We ain't watching the game for the cheerleaders anyway. I mean, what are the. Oh, yeah, don't matter.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I don't care. No, I ain't never cared.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, my goodness. Boy, that was funny.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But. Yeah, but. But I heard. I did. I did hear that. A very similar situation. Like, I. I didn't hear this about Shador. I mean, I've gotten away from it. I've kind of like, I haven't gotten away from the league, Ocho, but I don't call as many people as I once did, like, like when I first got to Fox. Yeah, I'll call and try to, you know, make sure. I know. And. And every once in a while, there are some things. But then I like. Shannon, you too close to this, right? Just step away. But y' all know. Y' all know. Yeah, but it'd be sad if this is. Oh, sure. This is true. This would be. This is. This is. This would be so sad.

[Chat Participant]

Oh, man.

[Chad Johnson]

Helen Kelly can see what's going on, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

That on draft day, Ray Charles could see what's going on. Like, come on now. I said. I said. I said the same day when we came on the show during the draft, like, what are we doing?

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Urban Meyer compares Shador Sanders NFL Spotlight to Tim Tebow coming out of Florida. The issue that I remember Tim had and GM told me this is that if you're a backup quarterback, they don't want all this media attention on that one player. Coaches want team, team, no distractions. How long can Shadow be a backup quarterback? Until the NFL decide that he's too much of a distraction. We saw this with Cam. He struggled with securing backup roles because he brought too much attention. But here's the thing. Cam was a rookie of the Year. He was an mvp. He was a Pro Bowler many times, right. Shador has never started. I can see Ocho. I could see if he had Cam credentials and he says, okay, but he ain't never played a game. He ain't played a game. How do you know if he can or can't be a backup? I get what he said about Cam because Cam had already identified himself. Cam had already established himself.

[Chat Participant]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So, okay, yeah, it's tough. It's tough when a guy is to that degree.

[Chat Participant]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Cam was a Pro Bowler.

[Chad Johnson]

And wait a minute.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But Cam. Cam was. Cam was going to never have a career like a Josh McCown, like a Ryan Fitzpatrick. Never gonna have that because they weren't that to begin with. So it's easy. Because see, the thing is, even though camp, as Cam got older and some of his skills diminished, even though as a backup, they still expected him to be Cam Newton because he what he still is Cam Newton.

[Chat Participant]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I already know what I'm gonna get from Flacco. I already know. I ain't nobody under the illusions that Joe Flacco is going to play like he did at any point in time, like he did in the playoffs. You're not the no illusion that Ryan Fitzpatrick was going to ever be anything more than what Ryan Fitzpatrick or Josh McCown had ever been.

[Chat Participant]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But if you get Cam, even if you bring him in, you expect magic. You expect him to turn back into cake Superman. You expect him to turn back into that.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I don't. I don't even. Like. I mean, the media is covering Shador. He's not asking for you guys to do that. He's not asking for that. They covered him for a reason. I mean, listen, I've never seen coverage like this for a fifth round.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, no. Ocho, he's on.

[Chad Johnson]

He's on the front of any. Anything having to do with the Browns. It's his face, it's his photo. It's his picture on everything.

[Shannon Sharpe]

It's the same thing with Bronnie James. Hell, I couldn't tell you the first pick in the draft was. Hell, I couldn't tell you the first five picks, but, you know, we picked. You know what? Bronnie James, everybody talk. They talking about shadow. That mean they cover shadow like shoes should do it. With the first overall pick, right? To cover Bronnie just like he was the number one overall pick.

[Chad Johnson]

Last name?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I just. Man, all I can say is bad, bro. When you get your chance, just shine.

[Chad Johnson]

What up?

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's all you can do, Ocho.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You. Me. You and I and others being outraged that this could be a possibility.

[Chad Johnson]

Possibility.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Ocho, I'm tired of getting sued.

[Chad Johnson]

What? Oh, no, I'm. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good with them folks over there. We good. We good.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bad. I was just like, this is sad.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nobody saw this coming. The only thing I did see coming, Ocho, we talked about this leading up to the draft. New Orleans at 9.

[Chat Participant]

Oh, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But if he gets past New Orleans at 9, there's really nobody that needs a quarterback from 9 to 21.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

For a while.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And then if the Steelers don't take it.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But. Okay, there's a scenario. I could see him falling out of the first round, but I ain't see him falling to the fifth round.

[Chat Participant]

No, absolutely not.

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely not.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Colts announced Daniel Jones as quarterback one over. Anthony Richardson. Colts quarterback cam. Colts quarterback coach Cam Turner was asked if the staff failed Richardson. I feel like I've tried everything I can do, and I feel like he's giving great effort in that aspect, too. I don't think either way, one or the other. Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

That door unclosed.

[Shannon Sharpe]

We talked about Ocho. When. The moment they signed him. Ocho. I tried to. I said, ocho, it's just like chat y' all guys at y' all job. Let's just say for the sake of argument, I'm gonna be generous. All of you at a job that make at least a hundred thousand a year.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They bring somebody in there and pay him 700,000 a year and y' all have the exact same job. Now which one of you guys think is leaving.

[Chad Johnson]

The right was on the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You don't pay that man. No. For Ocho, that's starting money, right? $14 million to be a backup. That man was never gonna be no backup.

[Chad Johnson]

Never, Never.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And if Anthony Richardson didn't play, bro, the worst thing could have happened. Ocho, first play, first pass, play.

[Chad Johnson]

Sack. Fumble.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Dislocate his pinky. The line is sliding to the left. He's hot out the right guy hit him dead inside his head. I can see Shane stanking. Jesus Christ. I took my glass. So I'm saying that's what the head coach, that's what he said.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

This is a third year player. And that is an elementary blitz. The line is going, Liz, you're hot. Any one player come, it's scat protection, which means everybody is free to release. Ocho, you got five line sliding. They brought the guy to the offensive tackle say I'm taking the most dangerous step down now what he should have done it says, nah, let's rip it. I'm gonna slide the line to the right. We protected now.

[Chad Johnson]

So I could drop back and throw in peace.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bro. If. Why Ocho? The thing is, what's confusing to me, it's a Liz call. And you look at that side, you protected that side. Were you not protected to the right? Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

And hell, the tight end turned around for the hot read right away in the back.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Run the flat route. Why the back? Because that's not his job.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

In scat protection. No. No eligible receiver has a responsibility to block.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

That's why they call it scat, which means five eligible guys are, are out on the route. Scat protection, you got five men. Now if you call something else, you know, you call a 50 protection, 70 protection, your tight end might stay in. Or you can call a protection to keep the back in, right. Or you can sit till the back to chip his way out. But that doesn't. That, that looked like a scat protection, which means five eligible receivers, five offensive linemen and the quarterback makes 11. The lineman obviously can't take their big ass out and run no route. So they blocking, right? Quarterback can't go out because he throwing the ball. So your five receivers, maybe it's three receivers, a tight end on the back, free to go.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

I also think they made the decision because they're playing. They're playing, they're coaching for their jobs this year too. Yeah, they're coaching for their jobs. And if they were, if they, if they had to go between the two quarterbacks, which one of these quarterbacks do I trust? Get the job done for us and give us our best chance to win to save my ass, to save my job so I don't get fired because I was pardoned decision to make it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You chose that. They chose Daniel Jones.

[Chad Johnson]

I mean, the lesser of the two. I mean, which way do you go?

[Shannon Sharpe]

You either run into you running into a lion's den or a tiger pen with pork chop draws.

[Chad Johnson]

But either way the same thing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They go, okay, there you go. There it is.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you already know. So you already know what's gonna happen.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, so now, now you know what this does. Tell me for one. I, I, I would, I would hope Anthony Richardson got himself together going into his third year because after this season, they would have had to come see him. Yes, they would have had to come see him after this.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

But this also lets me know Daniel Jones is starting this year. That means in the 26. 26 what? 2026 draft. They will be drafting a quarterback in the first round.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Dan Jones done got paid once. He good.

[Chad Johnson]

They will, they will be drafting a quarterback. The coach will be drafting the quarterback in this upcoming draft in April.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But the thing is, Ocho, is that, look, everybody knew that Anthony Richardson was a project.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bring a veteran guy in, let him learn up under.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I don't even think, not even learning up under someone like that with not as many reps in college and in high school. He has to play. He has to learn through playing. Going through the ups and the downs.

[Chat Participant]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He ain't seen enough to play. He's not seen enough.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, you for, for him doing it from the sideline ain't gonna work.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, him, it has to in the game. You see what happened put him in the game. His third year, he got hit in his ear hole because he didn't know what to do. So you think a guy that's coming out as a project and he needs to play immediately.

[Chad Johnson]

The only way you're gonna get it right is by being out there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Carson didn't play right away. How did that Carson Palmer do?

[Chad Johnson]

Carson had John Kitten in front of him. Carson Palmer is also. Wait, didn't Carson win the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes, he won the Heisman Trophy.

[Chad Johnson]

The first pick of the draft they compared him to. Now, come on now.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm just. Oo, look at the quarterback. Look at who he had coaching Him, Right. He has Steve Sarkeesian and Lane Kiffin. There's a reason why Arch man is getting Texas. Who's the head coach? Sark.

[Chat Participant]

Right.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He also had, he also had Matt Leiner lefty. Look at, look at Lane Kiffin. Look at the quarterbacks that he had at Alabama. What are we doing here? You bring a guy in and you're like, okay, he's a project. And you. Ocho, a project is something like, you know what? It's like an old car. It's a project. I'm going take my time. But once I get it up and going, o that thing is a thing of beauty, a building. It's a project. But hey, turning something beautiful, you don't get a project oo and try to live the damn thing. The soon. Hey, I buy. Oh, I'm moving in next week.

[Chat Participant]

Hey, hold on.

[Chad Johnson]

A project? You're not picking a project with the fourth pick in the draft.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I, I, that's what I said. But I said if you do. I said if you do. Okay, if you do, you bring someone in and you let him see how it's done. And you, but it's got to be someone that's, that's confident. Like, look at what they did with my homeboy. They traded all the way up, took it with number 10.

[Chat Participant]

Yep.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Parked him behind Alex Smith. Boom.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

If Tom Brady can wait a damn year, Anthony Richardson can wait a year. If Mahomes can wait a year, if Carson Palmer can wait a year, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers, Eli Manning started on the bench. The number one pick.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Anthony Richardson could have started on the bench. He needed to learn, Ocho. He hadn't played enough college football. And like you said, he was a project.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

Damn, man, that's messed up, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But you know, I was surprised by that Ocho, when we saw this. I said he going to he gonna be starter.

[Chad Johnson]

Listen, I, I, I wasn't surprised anyway because I already knew it was gonna happen regardless of the quarterback, quarterback competition that they continue to make or they tried to make it out to me once I saw Dan get that kind of money for one year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you.

[Chad Johnson]

The right. The writing was on the wall. I mean, who are they fooling? That's the, that's the game. That's the game that they play. When you understand the game, you already know what's coming. You already know. You already know what's coming. That's unfortunate. I hope, I hope all works out for him, though. I like, I like young bull, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Hey, maybe you need to go someplace else, but he needs. He needs to get with somebody. Like, I would love for him to go to a Cliff Kingsbury, a Sean McVeigh, one of those minds. Andy. Well, he's not gonna be able to go, but I'm just saying. You know what I'm saying, Ocho, right? Guys that will let him develop. You can't take a project and says, okay, we gonna get you to play. And now. Cause they gotta. They got talent.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They got a nice offensive line. They got an outstanding running back. They got skill position players. They just devoid a quarterback. They good enough to win offensively, Ocho.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You look at their skill position players, you look at that offensive line, they good enough to win.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The quarterback play has just been since Andrew Luck retired. Look at all the quarterbacks they've had. They've had Philip Rivers, they've had Matt Ryan, they've had a host of quarterbacks.

[Chad Johnson]

Ten, to be exact. Damn.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Coach Belichick appears to take a shot at Patriots owner Robert Kraft. Belichick was asked what's the biggest difference between coaching in the pros in college? It's a lot of football, and there's not much in your way. There's no owner. There's no owner's son. Lord have mercy.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, hold on. I'm confused, but Bill ran the show when he was there.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thank you.

[Chad Johnson]

He ran the show. No, no. He literally ran the show.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I know.

[Chad Johnson]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Coach, I get always hurt. Ocho, when we get let go from a job, it hurts. It does. No matter how long. Ocho, you could be at a job. 35 years, right? You had 35 great years. If they relieve you of your duty, you feel they've done you wrong.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, most definitely. Especially when it's not on good terms.

[Shannon Sharpe]

The Coach Belichick understands the pros, not like college. Mike Krzyzewski could have stayed at Duke as long as he wanted. Coach Summit, rest her soul. She could have stayed at Tennessee as long as she wanted.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Coach Smith. Unless there's something egregious, unless there's a scandal.

[Chad Johnson]

Allah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Bobby Knight in his credentials at Indiana, they gonna stay. Pros don't work like that. You don't get no lifetime contract in the pros.

[Chad Johnson]

No.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They wouldn't get rid of Coach Saving at Alabama. They wouldn't have got rid of Coach Paterno at Penn State. Like I said, something egregious, a scandal. All bets are off once that happens.

[Chat Participant]

Right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

But Coach Belichick, you ran the show. Every you got, they gave you everything you wanted. Mr. Kraft didn't bother you, was not in your way. Damn. You had 20 years. Six Super Bowls.

[Chad Johnson]

That's crazy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Six. You know what, Ocho? Honestly, I just hope one day they can sit down and have a conversation.

[Chad Johnson]

They are. It's gonna happen.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Because. Because if you really look at it, Mr. Kraft is so different than Coach Belichick. I'm talking about.

[Chad Johnson]

And you know what's funny is Bill. Bill is cool as hell.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yes.

[Chad Johnson]

There's a whole. There's a whole nother side of Bill that no one, no one has had the opportunity to experience.

[Shannon Sharpe]

He was at the Pro bowl one year, the coach. Yes, you're absolutely right, Ocho, because all.

[Chad Johnson]

They see is, you know, Bill in front of the camera talking to reporters. Man. There's a whole. Man, listen, I had to, man, me. Bill was on the show with us, man, for six months straight last season. Boy, so funny. So funny. And obviously, yes, good. His personality and all that stuff, you know, playing. Playing for the Patriots. But seeing him in that, in that environment, away from him, such a joy.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I was at the Pro bowl with him and seeing him around the bar and interacting with the guys. He's totally different.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah, he.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Totally different. He's opening, he's engaging, he's funny.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But I'm gonna have to disagree. I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one, Coach Belichick. I think you're phenomenal. But after they let you run the show for 20 years, everything, all the players that you released, all the players from the Ty laws, the Willie McGinnis's and all those guys, the trading of the Richard Seymour, the trading of the Logan man, all that. The cutting of lawyer, Lawyer Malloy, the trading of Drew Bledso. We get that. Because, Tom, we get all that. You did all of that. Mr. Kraft just patiently, just, just stood by. He was. He didn't talk. The only time Mr. Kraft really talked was what? That Tuesday, that Monday, Super, super bowl week. Ocho. And after the game. I don't. I, I. Do you think there's a lot of pressure on Coach Belichick to win at a high level at unc?

[Chad Johnson]

Probably based on his resume, based on his accolades, based on what he's done in the past, you're expecting what he was able to accomplish with the Patriots to happen at unc. Obviously, if you understand the collegiate game, it doesn't happen that fast. Obviously, I think they will be improving based on what they did last year going into this season. Now that they had Belichick, I think gradually they'll continue to get better, but like instant success. Like, oh, right. No, no. I, I, I, I, I see improvements gradually.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean, Clemson's in that division. I mean, in that conference. Acc.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

How good is Florida State gonna be?

[Chad Johnson]

I mean, listen, I, I, I, I said, I tell you one thing, the best football school in Tallahassee right now is Florida, is famu.

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[Shannon Sharpe]

Lamar Jackson avoided serious injury after getting his foot stepped on during Wednesday's practice, according to John Harbaugh. I told the guys prayers don't get answered. I was praying. Oh, prayers do get answered. I was praying. Ocho, we're hearing a lot of franchise quarterback getting hit in practice lately. He got stepped on, right? So. So what? It was doing a fight or doing. He got pulled out from under the center.

[Chad Johnson]

He's got stepped on. Oh, none, none. None to nothing. Too crazy. He good though. He good. Listen, Lamar ain't made a glass. He made a glass. He gonna, he gonna be all right. I saw a little post by Adam Schefter and Schefter made it a little bit more, made it seem a little bit more serious than it was. And Lamar is under the, under the post, laughing.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

And if you know. And when it comes to injuries, the Ravens are one of those teams that don't leak anything. The players don't say none, and the team don't say nothing. So Adam Schefter had to go out on a limb based on what he may think it is and how serious he may think it is. And Lamar just went under the Instagram post and just laughed it off. Which lets you know, nothing wrong with me. I'm good, man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But again, even if not good, I'll be good in what, 10 days, 14 when they play. So I'll be good in 10, 14. So in two weeks I'll be good. I, I don't got to be good right now. I'll be good in two weeks.

[Chad Johnson]

But just the fact that football season is here, man. Golly, I can't wait.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Ocho Yesterday was a busy day for trades on our off day. Chiefs traded wide receiver Sky Moore and a seventh round trick pick to the 49ers for a sixth round pick. Broncos traded Devon Vale to the Saints for a fourth and a seventh. The Vikings traded Harrison Phillips and a seventh to the jets for two six rounders. The Browns traded DT Juwan Briggs and a seventh to the jets for a six. Ocho, which trade will have the most immediate impact?

[Chat Participant]

Oh, immediate.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm not even sure. Huh. I'm not sure if any of these players are going to actually be an immediate impact. If anything, Sky Moore has had opportunities with the Chiefs to make an impact and make a change there. Maybe if he can get his confidence back and get himself back into rhythm and being able to see and catch the ball, he can be an impact where he is in some way, shape, form or fashion. I would love for him to get back, back into, into a groove. It seems he's lost his confidence a little bit.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Happens sometimes. Young player.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You have success, you catch, you know, big touchdown in the super bowl, team win, come back, struggle a little bit, you get injured. It's tough.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Tough. Is it Viley? The Broncos traded him. I, I liked him. I thought he was really good. It just goes to show you they, I guess the Saints really needed because he gave him a fourth, that tells you he got some value. So they gave him a fourth.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And a seventh.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I mean everybody else going for, going for sixth and seventh round picks and they got a fourth and a seventh. Damn, 49ers need this. DeMarcus Robinson going to miss the first three games. Had a situation in the Rose last off season. NFL stepped in. It's like, okay, you're going to miss the first three games they need because what is iu. Juwan Jennings. Pierce.

[Shador Sanders]

Pierce.

[Chad Johnson]

All right, that's all.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So we. We understand. The Saints. Olave. Shaheed. Hi. Shaheed.

[Chad Johnson]

Huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Shahid. Is he okay?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. You good? My boy fast as hell, right?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He is. I can't wait, Ocho. A woman loses 1.3 million lottery winnings after hiding it from her ex husband. 11 days after winning, she reportedly filed for divorce without ever mentioning her sudden fortune. For two years she believed she had pulled off until her husband found her ex found out. When he allegedly took her to court. The judge didn't split the winnings. He cited a family code statute that punishes spouses who conceal property during a divorce. The verdict, she had to hand over 100% of the lottery winnings to her ex husband. That could have been life changing wealth. That turned into a cautionary tale. Deception in marriage and the law.

[Chad Johnson]

Wait, she had to. She had to pay him the whole thing?

[Shannon Sharpe]

The whole thing.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, you see how. You see what money do to people? Yeah. You see what money. See what money do to people?

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think, look this up. There's a guy in Wisconsin, he won the lottery. I think he won like 200 and something. Million. He split it with his wife and said, I'm up out of here.

[Chad Johnson]

He split it and left.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I think he did. I think it was in Wisconsin. God gets divorced after winning.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, well, that's. Man, listen, man. Money's a powerful thing, huh?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, money. Listen, bro, why would you. Ocho, you know, boy, they punish you. They will punish you. Married and you hide, right? Marital possessions.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

They'll make you give it a whole thing up.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, man, one thing about it. Why everybody can go on that trip with you, but they're not gonna make it to the destination.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nah, she had to get out. Boy, you know she was sick, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. You know, when it. Wait, listen. When it comes to. When it come to money, women. You know what women will do, man, you find it. Come on now. Greedy, greedy. But money, money make it do some crazy things, man. Lose friendship, lose family members. The right, the right amount. A nice chunk.

[Shannon Sharpe]

One guy won the lottery after he got divorced. He won 273 million. Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

What? What?

[Shannon Sharpe]

He got divorced and won 240, 273 million.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, I'm going. I'm going to play shoot. I. I just got married. I'm going to play the lotto. Then I'm going. I'm going to play a lot on, see what happens. See if I get lucky. See if me and my baby get lucky. Yeah. So that, that's a. That's what I'm do. I'm gonna go play the lotto. I' ma hit for about 500 million. And then boom, this is what I'm do. I'm gonna hit 500 million. Then I'm gonna shoot you a hundred million on the.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You know, the bro. First of all, Ocho, you do realize you win 500 million, you taking a lump sum?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I'm gonna take a lump sum and I'm gonna give you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You probably get like, you probably like, if you win 500 million, you probably get like 180 million.

[Chad Johnson]

No, I ain't. No, I ain't. No, I ain't. Out of five. No, I get about. I get, I get.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, Ocho, you. No, Ocho, you get that if you take it over. Over. No, if you take it over 25 years. If you take a lump sum.

[Chad Johnson]

I'm taking a lump sum.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're not gonna get that much, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Yes, it is, unc. 500 million.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You get about 180 something million.

[Chad Johnson]

You are completely wrong. It's not that much.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, went by 500, so I'm gonna get two. I'm gonna shoot you 100.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You're not, huh, Ocho? Yeah, I ain't gonna lie to you, Ocho. I win the lottery, it's gonna be Ocho and somebody. Ocho and somebody Nightcap. I'm just telling yo. I'm just saying.

[Chad Johnson]

How you gonna leave? How you gonna leave me?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, you told me I need to live my life. You say, oh, you don't go nowhere. You'll do nothing.

[Chad Johnson]

Oh, so you're gonna wait till you win the lottery, then you're gonna leave me by myself? Get 260.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oo in the state of Florida if you won the lottery. 500 million. You take a lump sum, you get 260. I told you no state taxes.

[Chad Johnson]

Well, listen, yeah, I'mma shoot you 100 million. I'm.

[Shannon Sharpe]

No, don't shoot me that. You shoot me. Shoot me a cool. Shoot me a cool 10 to do me.

[Chad Johnson]

N n n n.

[Shannon Sharpe]

What I'm going to do to Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

What you gonna do?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Nightcap featuring oo and whoever else you want. As a matter of fact. Hey, you the new host of Club Sh. Shay. Out of here. Oh, Go. Oh, God.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, you know you won't leave because you like what you do.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I do. Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

You do too much.

[Shannon Sharpe]

But, Ocho, with that kind of money.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, you told me you're not. You're not. You. You don't do this for the money. You do this because you love it. You love.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I do. I tell you what. I work football season. But the minute the super bowl over, you gone. I see y' all next football season.

[Chad Johnson]

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Cause, listen, when football season's over, that's when we get to do our other half of our show.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, no, ain't no other half of the show for.

[Chad Johnson]

No. That bench is the Uncle Nocho.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah. Ocho death skiing.

[Chad Johnson]

Water. Water skiing.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'm a seasonal worker. And the season will be over for Unk.

[Chad Johnson]

Nah, man, we gotta. You gotta keep the money train going. This is how we.

[Shannon Sharpe]

God damn. Don't y' all let me live.

[Chad Johnson]

Billionaires. I'm telling you.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Huh?

[Chad Johnson]

You could be billionaires, man. That's how. That's how I start.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, that's how I start.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. You got to start somewhere.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Okay. All right. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Yeah.

[Chad Johnson]

With my baby. Baby, I know you watching. Yeah. They got the lotto out there and going to play lotto. Hey, chat. I'm gonna win the lotto, man. I'm gonna win a lotto. All of us. All of us. Everybody in the chat. We're gonna be debt free. We gonna fix this. I need to run for presidency because I get all right together.

[Shannon Sharpe]

You come over there. I am flesh 23, say Club Ocho. Live from, tootsies.

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah, I like that.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Kemper Norwood Jr. Said, Ocho, are you locked in on Abdul Carter winning defensive rookie of the year?

[Chad Johnson]

Absolutely.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Absolutely.

[Chad Johnson]

Listen, there's some other. There's other good players. Obviously, we know what Travis Hunter gonna do. We don't know how much he's going to be on the defensive side of the ball or offense. But Abdul Carter and the impact he's gonna have as a rookie, based on what we've seen so far, he's definitely gonna win it. He's definitely gonna win it. Unless someone that we just have no clue or think is. Is in the running to win it just comes out of nowhere. But I think Abdul Carter, obviously, Penn State, you know how those boys get down. So I'm. I'm assuming he probably will win it.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Jason Z. Zellsdorf dart is a bad man. Dart Is way better than Sanders. He had a better preseason. He got an opportunity to play more. He got more reps. You're just looking at college numbers when they got the same number of reps. It's hard to say that Dart was better, but in the pros, he's gotten more reps with the ones. He's got more time. You've got an opportunity to play more. We'll see how it plays out. But Jason Dart does look good. Ogthanos. What's up, Uncle Nocho? How soon will we see Jackson Dart starting? Considering how good he's looked in the preseason? Over under eight weeks, Ocho.

[Chad Johnson]

Over under eight weeks. Oh, that's a good one. I think if they actually.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Let's go. Let's go nine weeks because it's 18 weeks in the season, so we go right down the middle. Over under nine.

[Chad Johnson]

Hey, I really honestly, I. I honestly, I don't think it's gonna happen. I. I honestly don't think. I think Russell Wilson is gonna go on a run. He gonna go on a run of consistency, not turning the ball over, taking what the Taking with the defense gives him and running a safe. A safe offense in a few.

[Shannon Sharpe]

So you going? You taking over?

[Chat Participant]

Yeah. Yeah. Y', all, y', all.

[Chad Johnson]

You. Y' all count, y' all counting the preacher boy out. Man.

[Shannon Sharpe]

I'll go under. I'll say. I say under.

[Chad Johnson]

Man, listen, God is on Russell Wilson's side. Jackson Dar in the field this year.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Paul the truth believer said, hey, oh, O Joe Shador said, child, please they can kiss the baby with all that crazy talk One Die Hard Eagle fan shout out to the nightcap thank you, one Die Hard Eagle fan. Appreciate the support. Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy. Hey, fam. I'm 35, 000ft in the air on my way to London and still watching Nightcap. If that ain't dedication, I don't know what is. Love, y'. All. Doc, we appreciate that. Doc was here from. I think Doc might have been. Might have been like the first two or three in the chat when we started way back. Way back, Ocho, Because I think we had like 300 people the first night.

[Chad Johnson]

Matter of fact, wherever Doc is going, do me a favor. I don't know if you've ever been to a soccer game. Please go to a soccer game while you're in London and tell Unk what the experience is like, please. Because hearing it from me, maybe hearing it from you, you know, do a little bit more justice, but you got the experience one while you're out There in London, please. What's today? Today's what?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Thursday.

[Chad Johnson]

Thursday, yeah. Games is Saturday and Sunday. Saturday and Sunday. Wherever you at in London, please catch a game.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Oh, man, I gotta get my boo Vuzela.

[Chad Johnson]

What you know about that? They bet they ban those.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Did it?

[Chad Johnson]

Yeah. Remember at the World Cup?

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got one. I went to. We went to Australia for a preseason game and I got a vuvuzela.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And I got a didgeridoo. Real one of those. Australia. Those things. They.

[Chat Participant]

Yeah.

[Shannon Sharpe]

And.

[Chad Johnson]

And.

[Shannon Sharpe]

Yep. G. Smith, Lizzie. Bless y'. All. Much love, peace and respect for it. Anime Slayer. Hey, Shannon, have you ever watched the anime Neon Genesis Evangeline? Stay Golden, Shay? No, I don't. What's anime? What they do. Oh, I hear people talking about it, but I don't know anything about it. Have I ever seen it? Oh, okay. I tried. I was looking. Guys, I. That completes this episode of Nightcap. Thank you guys for joining us again chat. We greatly appreciate that y' all know me. I'm your favorite unc. Shannon Sharp, my partner and co host, Liberty City's own Madden ratings adjuster, Bingo's ring of fame honoree. The Pro bowl of the All Pro. All Pro. That's Chad Ocho. Cinco Johnson. Please make sure y' all hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed, wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support. Because thanks to you, we've risen to heights we could only have dreamed of in a very, very short period of time. And that's all because of you. So thank you again very, very much. My cognac Laportier has a new drop and this one is personal. I've created a limited edition release to honor my brother for his induction into the Pro Football hall of Fame. It's not just a bottle. It's a tribute. It's a celebration of a legacy. And once it gone, they're gone. The hall of Fame edition is officially live. Just head over to La Porte at Cognac to grab yours while you still can. Don't miss a chance to own a piece of history and a very, very special moment. Please go follow my media company page on all of his platforms. Shay Shay Media and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat. We want to thank our special, special guest, Jalen Johnson, the outstanding cornerback from the Chicago Bears for joining us, giving us a little bit of his time. Get some rest, young man. Get some rest, stay healthy and all the best. The Giants beat the Patriots and the Steelers beat the Panthers. Preseason is coming to an end. The regular season is on the horizon and we can't wait. Thank you guys for joining us. We'll see you tomorrow. I'm Unk. He's Ocho. We're out.

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