Nightcap - Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Trump wanting the Commanders to change their name back to the Redskins

Summary

Club Shay Shay: Nightcap - Hour 2 Summary

Release Date: July 22, 2025

In this episode of Club Shay Shay, hosted by NFL legend Shannon Sharpe alongside co-host Chad "Ocho Cinco" Johnson, the discussion spans a wide array of sports-related topics, ranging from team dynamics and management to societal issues within the sports community. Below is a detailed breakdown of the key points covered during the episode.

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1. Cowboys' Super Bowl Aspirations

The conversation kicks off with an analysis of the Dallas Cowboys' prospects for the upcoming NFL season. Pro Bowl guard Tyler Smith expresses high expectations, aiming for another Super Bowl title.

• Tyler Smith's Confidence:
  "Super Bowl champions. That's always the expectation. I think it's a realistic goal... Because we can win a Super Bowl. Why not?" (00:34)

The hosts discuss the improvements in the team's offensive lineup, notably the addition of George Pickens, and the necessity for the Cowboys to strengthen their defense to complement their offensive prowess.

• Offensive Improvements:
  "Offensively, they got George Pickens. This ain't no slouch. They've improved tremendously on the offensive side of the ball." (01:39)

However, concerns remain regarding the team's defensive capabilities, highlighting the importance of preventing repeat postseason setbacks.

• Defense Concerns:
  "They got to be able to stop people. You can't have what happened when you played Green Bay last year in the postseason." (04:07)

2. Trump's Intervention in Commanders' Name Change

A significant portion of the episode delves into former President Donald Trump's comments regarding the Washington Commanders' team name.

• Trump's Ultimatum:
  "I may put a restriction on them if they don't change the name back to the original Washington Redskins... I won't make a deal for them to build a stadium in Washington." (04:47)

The hosts critique Trump's involvement, arguing that sports teams should have autonomy over their branding decisions without presidential interference.

• Critique of Trump's Involvement:
  "President should not be telling Washington Redskins to change their name... So what is Donald Trump currently president?" (05:27)
  "Trump is something else. You know, there's someone that is sitting at the highest seat with that kind of power, and he does things in a different way than any other president." (06:13)

3. Changing Social Norms and Media

The discussion transitions to how societal norms around offensive terminology have evolved, especially in media and entertainment.

• Evolution of Acceptable Language:
  "I saw a tweet... Listening to the undertone of the jokes with the hard." (09:24)
  "They made it okay to say whatever." (08:24)

The hosts reflect on classic television shows like All in the Family and South Park, noting the stark contrast between past and present standards of acceptable language and humor.

• Media Comparison:
  "Could you imagine all in the Family running in today's society? No, absolutely not." (09:54)
  "South Park... Racist undertones. Nobody's off limits." (14:44)

4. Coaching Changes and Team Updates

Shifting focus to coaching dynamics, the episode explores the possibility of Nick Saban returning to coaching amidst changes in the college football landscape.

• Saban's Potential Return:
  "I could see Saban getting back into coaching if someone gave him the heads up..." (22:04)
  "I don't see him going back to college. But we'll never know." (28:05)

The hosts debate the challenges Saban might face if he decides to return, considering the new regulations and financial constraints within college football.

5. Autograph Signings and Memorabilia Discussions

Personal anecdotes about autograph signings and the memorabilia business add a lighter tone to the episode.

• Memorabilia Insights:
  "I have so much fun doing that. I got to the point where I was pulling people jerseys and names like Eric Dickinson and Bo Jackson." (31:55)
  "Everything pivots on the players. If you have a good lineup, the rest falls into place." (32:22)

The hosts share experiences about the unpredictability and excitement of signing memorabilia, emphasizing the importance of connecting with fans.

6. Quarterback Injuries and Team Prospects

The episode covers recent quarterback injuries and their implications for team performances, focusing on the Tennessee Titans and the Indianapolis Colts.

• Will Levis' Injury:
  "Ocho Titans quarterback Will Levis has elected to have season-ending surgery on his right shoulder." (32:36)
  "Cam Ward is now on the clock. It's his time now." (32:56)

• Anthony Richardson's Challenge:
  "Anthony Richardson can still play well enough to justify the Colts' lofty expectations... He has to prove it in training camp by beating out Daniel Jones." (36:46)

The hosts stress the importance of these quarterbacks proving themselves in training camps to secure their starting positions and contribute to their teams' successes.

7. Kelsey Plum and Caitlin Clark Incident

A notable incident at the WNBA All-Star Weekend involving Kelsey Plum and Caitlin Clark is discussed, highlighting tensions within the league.

• Incident Overview:
  "A video circulating of KP Kelsey Plum appearing to call out Caitlin Clark at the WNBA All-Star weekend." (43:53)
  "Kelsey Plum: 'That was a very powerful moment... Sometimes you don't have to say anything.'" (44:22)

The hosts analyze the impact of such confrontations on player relationships and the broader dynamics within professional sports leagues.

8. MVP Awards in Sports

The conversation shifts to the topic of Most Valuable Player (MVP) awards across different sports leagues, debating the necessity and structure of such recognitions.

• Debate on MVP Structure:
  "LeBron thinks the NBA should give an Offensive Player of the Year award, similar to the NFL." (47:42)
  "I think we have enough awards... Adding one more could dilute the existing recognitions." (48:35)

The hosts discuss the balance between recognizing individual excellence and maintaining the prestige of existing awards, comparing practices in the NBA, NFL, and MLB.

9. CP3 and Clippers Roster Discussions

The episode briefly touches upon Chris Paul (CP3) re-signing with the Los Angeles Clippers, analyzing the team's aging roster and future prospects.

• Clippers' Season Outlook:
  "CP3 is resigning with the Clippers... They seasoned. That's a good and a bad thing." (52:27)
  "Everything is predicated on Kawhi. If he's not, they're not doing anything." (53:05)

The hosts express skepticism about the Clippers' chances in the upcoming season, citing the aging core and reliance on key players like Kawhi Leonard.

10. Sad News: Malcolm Jamal Warner's Passing

The episode concludes with somber news about the passing of Malcolm Jamal Warner, best known for his role as Theo Huxtable on The Cosby Show.

• Tribute to Malcolm Jamal Warner:
  "Malcolm Jamal Warner, who played Theo Huxtable, reportedly died of an accidental drowning. He was 54 years of age." (57:31)
  "Rest easy, bro. What? Life, man." (58:43)

The hosts pay their respects, reflecting on Warner's legacy and the fragility of life, emphasizing the importance of cherishing each moment.

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Closing Remarks

Towards the end of the episode, Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ocho Cinco" Johnson wrap up with a Q&A segment, addressing listener questions and sharing personal anecdotes. They also reiterate their promotions for the "Behind the Flow" podcast and their media and clothing ventures.

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Notable Quotes:

• "Super Bowl champions. That's always the expectation. I think it's a realistic goal." – Tyler Smith (00:34)
• "President should not be telling Washington Redskins to change their name." – Co-Host (05:27)
• "Kelsey Plum tried to make light of the situation." – Co-Host (44:26)
• "Malcolm Jamal Warner... our thoughts and prayers go out to him and his family." – Co-Host (58:22)

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the multifaceted discussions of the episode, providing listeners with insights into team dynamics, societal issues, personal experiences, and significant news within the sports world.

Transcript

[Shannon Sharpe]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club.

[Shannon Sharpe]

San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.

[Guest Speaker]

We need to embrace this community.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow on the iHeartRadio app at Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Co-Host]

Oo going back to the Cowboys. Cowboys Pro bowl guard Tyler Smith is not shy about what he expects in 2025 as training camp begins this week. Super bowl champions. That's always the expectation. I think it's a realistic goal. Yes, Smith said. Why? Because we can win a Super Bowl. Why not? Why can't we win? Do you think it's unrealistic? Yes, I do.

That's not nice. But listen, everybody has the ultimate goal. Everybody. It's a clean slate for every NFL team. Every NFL team is going into training camp with the same end goal in mind. We want to horse that Lombardi in San Francisco this year. Everybody does. Now, some teams a little bit more realistic and are built to be playing in February, to be making it to the postseason. Everybody in that NFC east, they've gotten much better, huh? They've gotten. The commanders got better. Yeah, the Eagles got better and were already good. The Cowboys, they made a little noise offensively.

Offensively, yeah.

Offensive, they got George Pickens. This ain't just. Ain't no motherfucker. I'm sorry. This ain't no slouch. They've improved tremendously on the offensive side of the ball. The issue wasn't offense last year. The issue was on the other side of the ball. And one of the key components to that defense. Well, hell, you just talked about him like a dog in front of the world on how you really feel and permitted to take a shot at your quarterback.

Ocho, look what I got today.

A knife.

Look what's on it, boy.

I only got one eye. I can't see that.

It ain't for you, for the chat.

Chat. What it say? Chat. Hold on, let me read the chat real quick.

It's hall of fame number 267. That was. I'm the member 267.

Okay, okay.

And it says Shannon Sharp, number 267. Got the hall of Fame. I think my brother might be 389. Got a pearl handle. You want to buy it?

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. I'll let you. I'll let you had it. I'm not. I'm not too I'm not too fond and keen of memorabilia. I told you the one thing I want, though.

What you want?

I want that damn jacket I put on and that damn Ravens game. I can't find that now that I want. So storage.

It was at the storage locker, they say, man, sh.

Man, listen, I wish it was. I've been looking for that jacket since that game in 2007. I ain't been able to find it.

Well, if you ain't been able to find it since then, you probably not going to be able to find it. What do you think, Ocho? You think the Cowboys got a chance to, you know, the. The Eagles obviously loaded again. The Rams, really good. I think the 49ers will be back. They'll be good.

Detroit.

Detroit. Green Bay, Minnesota.

Yeah. Oh, I could. Well, I just. Absolutely. Listen, the Cowboys, their identity is offense. They got some help. They got some help in getting George Pickens over there. They. They have a chance. They have a chance. They just got to be able to stop people. They got to be able to stop people. You can't have what happened when you played Green Bay last year in the postseason. Wait, was that last year?

Two years ago? They made the postseason last year.

Last year, yeah. You can't. You can't have that happen. You just can't. You know, you hope everyone can stay healthy. They give you a best chance to win all season long, despite what the owner said publicly.

You know, I mean, the Cowboys have not played in a Super bowl since 1995. They also haven't reached a championship game in 30 years. That is the longest drought in the conference.

Damn.

So everybody that's in the NFC has gone to at least a championship game since the Cowboys.

Yeah.

But I guess that's. That's their year. Donald Trump wants Washington Commanders to switch back to their old name. And if they're not willing to do so, the president has threatened to derail the team's plans to build a new stadium in Washington. Trump wrote on his social media page, Truth Social. I may put a restriction on them if they don't change the name back to the original Washington Redskins and get rid of the ridiculous moniker Washington Commanders. I won't make a deal for them to build a stadium in Washington. The team would be much more valuable, and the deal will be much more exciting for everyone. Ocho, look what we found. Remember, in 2013.

Yeah.

President should not be telling the Washington Redskins to change their name, for our country has far bigger problem. Focus on them, not nonsense, huh? Hey, whoa, hold on. Wait a Minute.

That's crazy.

President should not be telling Washington Redskins to change their name. So what is that? So what is Donald Trump currently president? So he should not be telling teams to do what, Ocho.

Change the name.

I mean, that's what he said in 2013.

Yeah.

Oh.

Hey, hey, Trump. Trump's something else, ain't he?

He's something.

I'm like, all jokes aside, Trump is something else. You know, there's someone that is sitting at the highest seat with that kind of power, and he does things in a different way than any other president can. Yeah, he does things in a way and differently than any other president.

What, do they have no guardrails on everybody? I mean, you have to have undying loyalty. Even though he tells a lie, you come out and you compound it by telling even bigger lies. It's just. It is what it is. This is what 77 million people voted for. So I. Look, I'm. I've gone through a lot of presidents from. I remember Gerald. Gerald Ford when he.

Yeah, yeah, Mr. Ford, when he took.

Over for Nixon and he lost to. Well, he lost. He lost to Carter because he pardoned Richard Nixon. That's why he lost. But then. And then Carter, and then he ended up getting swept by Reagan, and then Reagan won again. He beat Mond. Beat the brakes off Mondale in 84. I mean. Yeah, I mean, that was the most lopsided victory, I think, probably in the history of elections. It is what it is, man.

Hey, Young Bull is a gangster, man. Listen, I don't think people understand. How do I say this without getting myself in trouble? I don't think people understand that people of that kind of power. That kind of power operate by a different set of rules, no matter what you say.

Yeah.

Want to say. You can say this. Oh, he got away with it. They operate by a different set of rules than everybody else.

Well, it used to. Look, people laugh when he said he was their Martin Luther King. He didn't lie. He didn't lie. He is different. He gave it. It was okay to say whatever.

Yeah.

Because a lot of times people thought it, but, you know, there was backlash for saying it. He made it okay to say it.

You see? You see what you just said? People thought it, but they didn't.

What? They didn't say it.

Jerry, when Jerry just came out and said, well, you think other owners don't think like that?

Sure. For sure.

They will never. They will never utter those words publicly to let the players know, this is how I really feel about you. Come on, now.

They changed the name. I mean, I've heard some Native Americans say, we like the name. It's a sign. It's a term of endearment. I've seen some said, no, we wanted to change. Whatever. I'm not losing sleep over one way or another. But for me, it just took one person not to say, you know, to say, don't call me that. And I'm cool with it. I don't. Like I said, I'm not losing no sleep over a name.

Listen, listen.

If they feel. If they feel. If it's derogatory, take off with it.

Hey, listen, I saw a tweet. I put it up. I put it up on Instagrams. Remember all in the Family?

Yeah. Archie Bunker. Yeah. Carol o'. Connor, Gene Stapleton, Rob Reiner.

Listen. Yeah. Me watching all in the Family and me watching Sanford and Son is why I'm not easily offended in today's world.

Oh, yeah. Back then. I mean, look, back then they said things. I mean, they said that I G.

G E R. Could you imagine all in the Family running in today's society?

No, absolutely not. Absolutely not. None of those shows. The Jefferson. None of those shows. He said absolutely nothing.

And it always. They had the, er.

Yeah, for sure.

Proudly. Can you imagine the Dean Martin roast in today's society?

I mean, they got a little bit of it with the Tom Brady, but that's kind of how you got. That's kind of how you got away. That's kind of how you got. That's got away with the roast. Because you couldn't be as forthcoming and as open and saying things like that. Like, because a roast, all bets are off.

Yeah.

The true definition of a roast, when you actually roast someone.

Yeah.

You tear them up.

I know the chat probably isn't familiar with it, but just tonight, after tonight's show chat, y' all just do me a favor. Just. Just go on YouTube and just type in Dean Martin Rose. Dean Martin rose. Sammy Davis Jr. Dean Martin Rose, everybody.

Because he was always the host, Frank Sinatra.

And listen to the undertone. Wilt Chamberlain was on one episode. Listen to the undertone of the jokes with the hard, er.

Well, they was cutting up. I mean, Lucille Ball, they had Lucille Ball, they had Tim Carway, Harvey Corman, Harvey Gorman. Man, look here. They were tearing people up. I mean, they would what? They would say what, bruh?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. We go behind the scenes and explore the stories of those involved.

[Shannon Sharpe]

San Diego coming to MLS is Going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.

[Guest Speaker]

We need veteran players and we need young players. Like, you're building a team from scratch. And so the succession plan of long term success needs to be defined. We need to embrace this community.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When I was 13, my uncle took me to a qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile, pouring rain. Just watching the fans jumping up and down, I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that going to be my game, but it was going to be my life.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Listen to San Diego FC behind the Flow now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Co-Host]

It wouldn't fly today. I think they had one episode and everybody became.

That's it. That's it. That's it. Yeah, for sure. And, and, and comedians, they've. They've had to evolve because Richard Pryor. You think Richard Pryor gonna be able to get up there and say what he said? And Eddie.

Yeah, Red Fox, too. Red Fox.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you evolve, you don't have a choice. But look, the president, you know, look, he's like, change it back. But President Biden has already given the land and they sold the land for 99 years, so ain't nothing he can do. Yeah, but I mean, what. Why do you care?

Yeah, who care?

I don't care nothing about a team's name. Who cares about that? So what? Oh, you stop watching them because they changed the name from that to the Commanders, Right? So if they change the name to the Lakers, you think, Look, I'm a LeBron fan. I mean, I made that abundantly clear. But it doesn't matter name to me. I don't root for a name. I root for the player. I root for a team. And. Right. Yeah, I don't. Like you said, Ocho, I don't get offended by that. Like, that's their day. If somebody says that's offensive to me, that's good enough for me. Especially from that community. I don't try to. You know what? I don't. Ocho. I don't try to dictate other communities what's offensive to them. If they say that's. If they say, hey, don't call me lotion, that's offensive to us. Okay, I'm cool with it.

Yeah, that's it.

That's your community. You get to police your community. I don't want someone to tell me, try to police how we talk to one another. You don't, bro, stop. Y' all do y' all thing. How y' all talk? You know, gays talk one way to somebody. People from the Jewish community talk one way to somebody. Blacks talk one way to somebody. Asians talk some way. I ain't in the. Hey, man, how you say it? I want to be. No, I've never heard someone getting into a disagreement, call someone from a group a derogatory name and thought, man, that show would be cool if I could do that. I ain't never did that on Cho.

Right, right. I mean, it don't make no.

I don't care.

Yeah, that's crazy. Matter of fact, now that I think about it, you know who. Just as bad as all in the Family, just as bad as the Jeffersons. Good times with being able to get away with it in today's times, nobody cast an eye. South Park.

Oh, yeah. South Park. They crazy. Oh, yeah, South Park.

I don't know. I don't know who the writers are. I don't know what kind of protection shield they have, but everybody gets a green light and everybody. Racist undertones. Nobody's off limits. It don't matter who you are.

Oh, yeah. They get you now.

Park on Let it. They gonna let it fly.

Yeah, Yeah. I haven't watched south park in a very long time, since I think Chef was Isaac Hayes with Divorce of Chef, I think on South Park. Yeah. Wasn't I the Chef? I'm almost certain that he was.

Mm.

So I have. I haven't watched in a very long time. As a matter of fact, I haven't really watched a whole lot of TV that wasn't sports related. Right, right, right, right. You know, I got into Reacher, and I watched Godfather of Harlem, and, you know, I watch a few shows. I watched the show with Russell. Russell Crowe and Idris Elba. I watched that. I was watching. I think I was watching something I got started watching. I hadn't finished it with Charlize Theron. I don't. I forget the name of that movie it's on. I think it's on Netflix or something. But, you know, I've been. I've been trying to watch tv. Ocho. Ocho. I'll go weeks without watching tv, without watching tv.

It's easy for you right now, especially with no sports.

With no sports, though, ain't, you know, Wimbledon just ended.

Ain't no basketball. What about summer league? You enjoy summer league?

No, I've watched a little. Few highlights of Bronny. I wanted to see Bron against Cooper. Flag you Know, I want to see the maturation and improvement that Bronny had in this game. So I watched a little bit of it. But now, you know, football season is right around the corner. Track and field, the world championships in Tokyo is in September. So we go, hey, we got a full slate, especially out the gate, which is. I'm very excited about. College football is going to be here before you know it.

Yeah. Wait, college football starting, I think, what.

The end of August?

Yeah, we got a few days. End of August.

Yeah. Ain't no. Ain't no football in July, Ocho.

Oh, you know what I'm talking about. The other football. Soccer. My bad.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Soccer starts August 29th.

Oo they start day tour.

Cause hell, we'll be. We'll be at. I'll be at the Hall. Okay. Yeah. Cuz I. No, hell no. We got no. Hell no, I won't be at the Hall. Up. This is July. That what the hell I'm thinking. Yeah. I'm like, damn. No, July, July, July. I'm going to the Hall. July. Oh, August. Yeah, we be in full till. I mean, but you know you have preseason football, right?

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, preseason. The first game is your hall of Fame game that Thursday.

So I ask you, who playing. Who playing this year?

The Chargers. The Chargers and who? The Packers. Lions and Charges. Lions and Chargers. Okay, okay, okay. Oh, yeah, we played the. I think we played the Lions one year. Go back and look and see. Did we. Did we play the lions in. In 91? I think we played the Lions in the hall of fame game in 91. Because I know my first year we played Seattle in Japan. I'm almost certain we played the Lions. I know we lost.

Oh, speaking of football, man, listen, even if you haven't been watching tv, I know you've seen that young bull on espn from the flag team. Yeah, from the Jacksonville team.

Which one? The one that caught the one hand.

Man, this way, man, put it. Grab that thing like this.

Ocho is funny. Think about it. In 1991, we played in the hall of Fame game. I go in the hall of Fame. I'm in the building.

Right. For real.

30 years later.

Oh, that's crazy. That's crazy. That's dope.

And now, you know, 14 years later, after I go in, my brother's going in.

That's live.

Yeah. My mom is extremely. My mom extremely proud. I wish. I wish my dad and my grandfather could see this moment. They wouldn't believe it.

That's dope.

My grandfather would probably say, Mary I told you them boy was gonna make something, especially that little one, my dad. I mean, you know, when you see dads come from, like, for the football game, Ocho, and you know, to have their dad. Hey, Charmander. My dad. So. Hey, how you doing, Mr. Such and Such. To have my dad. To have my dad, to be in the locker room, to be on the sideline, to have my grandfather, just to see it. My grandmother. My grandmother saw my brother's career. My career started in its entirety. But my dad and my grandfather never got an opportunity to see that. That's what I wish. That's what all the things I wish they could have seen. What my brother and I became.

I'm glad Mama got to witness it. Grandma got to witness it.

Ain't nothing like it, Ocho.

Hey, I remember my grandma was like, mommy. Like, Mommy. I used to call my grandma Mommy. I said, mommy, man, you don't want to come to the game. He like, chatty. She ain't never say, Chad, say chatty. I can't. I can't take them. Them big boys hitting you like that. I'm g. Watch it on tv. I can't. I can't sit in them stands. I can't. I'mma just, you know, pause a little bit. No, I'm just. I'm just sitting here watching on tv. But I'm. I'm proud of you.

Yeah.

Proud of you. I said.

My grandma saw me in college. One game.

Yeah. Make sure you watch. Make sure you pay attention. Mama, when I scold, I'm gonna do something crazy. Oh, man.

Hey, baby. My grandma say, son, run for your life. Don't let him catch you, Libby. I told him to run for his life. Trust me. I'm trying to run for my life, too, Granny. Cause I know if they catch me, they go do something bad to me, but, yeah, that's gonna be. I mean, I am, man. I'm super. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm excited. I'm excited for my brother. I think I'm. I think I'm more excited for him going in than myself because of what he means to me. According to former Alabama quarterback Greg McElroy, a trusted source believes Saban is looking to return to coaching. Ocho, can you see Saban getting back into coaching?

I could see Saban getting back into coaching if someone gave him the heads up or gave him the tee on them being. Or them getting ready to put a restriction on nil.

Yeah. No, no, no.

So listen, sort of even the Playing field because Nick Saban left the game of football with the understanding that there was no.

It was changing. The ties were changing.

Yeah. It's different now. So unless you have special booster with a lot of money to be able to get you the players you want to get, I don't see statement coming back. So unless he knows something that we don't, he knows it ahead of time. I can see him coming back because now it evens the playing field. It evens the playing field. Well, when you was getting all the players, it wasn't an issue, but now the players are scattering all over the place where you're not getting all the talent.

Chad, it's glitter on my face from the Kleenex when I go off camera. So that's what that is.

What?

What?

Glitter.

I got glitter, I guess. Let me see here.

Well, how the hell they see that? I don't see that.

Oh. Huh.

Huh? Boy, Chad got some good eyes, man. I don't see no glitter.

Yeah, I guess he's coming back to the NFL. Could you see him coming back to the NFL?

I thought you said college.

I thought he was coming back to coaching. I was just asking, could you see him coming back to coach NFL?

Hell, no. College, yes. But listen, nothing has changed.

And they talking about putting the cap on it because before he left, there wasn't no cap on it. They talking about capping it. You see some of these teams spending 20, 25, 30 million dollars. What's the cap gonna be? Ocho, you know they were gonna keep letting us make no money like that, right?

Yeah. At least it gonna take some time, though, Ocho. Yeah.

You know they were gonna keep letting us make money like that, right?

Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. I hear you loud and clear.

Okay.

I hear you loud and clear. I hear you loud and clear.

But do you think he's still hot? I mean, think about it. I believe he's the greatest college coach. I'm old enough to remember Coach Bryant, also at Alabama, he won six national championships. Coach Sabian won six national championship. Gene Stallings won one in between. So they got 13 that I know of. I don't know what they won. You know, they won how many they won before Coach Bryant got there. But I know they do have 13. With that being said, and many believe that he's the greatest college coach. You throw Coach Brian in there. Coach Bud Wilkinson, Dr. Tom Osborne, Frank Leahy.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. We go behind the scenes and Explore the stories of those involved.

[Shannon Sharpe]

San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.

[Guest Speaker]

We need veteran players and we need young players. Like, you're building a team from scratch. And so the succession plan of long term success needs to be defined. We need to embrace this community.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When I was 13, my uncle took me to a quality qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile, pouring rain. Just watching the fans jumping up and down, I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that going to be my game, but it was going to be my life.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Listen to San Diego FC behind the Flow now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Co-Host]

You think he's bothered by the lack of success that he had in the NFL?

No, he shouldn't be. He shouldn't be bothered by the lack of success because some people are successful in other areas. He's successful in college.

Yeah.

That's where he's successful at. If you go, if. Even if he does get the opportunity to coach again in the NFL, you might run into the same problem because it's not guaranteed.

They make even more money now.

Yeah. And depending on where you go and wherever you do go, I hope you got a goddamn quarterback. Because if you don't have a quarterback, your stay is going to be short once again. It's going to be short once again. So if anything, I see Saban maybe going back to college, but again, he's coming right back to the same issues on why he left other teams outbidding you for players that you want to make you a better team.

Yeah.

The eve, the, the, the playing field is even now. You got to play. You gotta, you got, you got, you got to pay to play.

You do, you do. I think he's having an unbelievable time doing what he's doing. I mean, he's still close, close to the program. He's still recruiting for Alabama. His car dealerships are doing unbelievable speaking engagements. He's done a great job. He won an Emmy in his first year doing what he does. He's having, you know, he's making great money. I don't really see him going back. I don't.

It had to come from somewhere, though, huh?

Oh, I believe it.

It had to come from somewhere.

I mean, I mean, yeah, I mean, NFL, where is he gonna go? What program can he go to? Lsu. Go back to LSU if Brian Kelly don't start winning. Texas, they got Sark. They just Signed Sark. Ryan Day is entrenched in Ohio State. Kirby is entrenched in Georgia. Where are you gonna go?

Wait a minute. Contract contractually isn't his right. Still with Alabama or that. That's not how it works.

No, he's. No. He done there, but he still has an office at Alabama. That's why I could, you know, potentially see him maybe going to the NFL, but I don't see him going back to college. Right.

Damn.

But we'll never know a. We'll find out. We'll see. C.J. gardner Johnson cut his autograph session short after his girl said she was hungry and wanted to grab food. According to reports and a video that's circulating, CJ had a whole lot of kids waiting, too, but they all. But they got refunded.

It must have been something else. Had to be something else. I guar. I get. I know my nephew. I know my nephew. Even if she was hungry, there was a. There had to be a diary emergency because nothing come before the money. Nothing come before the money. So anytime you sign up for anybody, that's like a payday.

Yeah, but you know, that. Like I said, maybe you know something we don't. I mean, we're just going by what, the video.

I don't. It's my first time hearing it, but I'm sure there was a dire emergency on, because when it comes to making money, even something as small as signing.

You'Re paid to sign.

Yeah, you. You paid to sign. So if you had to up and leave in the middle of it, that's the emergency, I guarantee you.

Well, I hope it was an emergency.

It wasn't her saying, oh, I'm hungry and using. That's. That's not the reason we got a video.

We catch it. Well, he said she's hungry. That's what she's. That's what he said in the video. I don't know.

Yeah. Whatever personal business was going on or whatever. Whatever emergency it might have been, but normally you.

Look, you've done a bunch of these. I've done a bunch of these. I don't do as many as I once did. Is that you understand, Ocho? Okay, I agree to sign 300 things, but they might have 500, 600. I mean, I agreed to do a signing with 400, and I ended up signing a thousand. But you know what that means, Ocho?

Yeah.

I got double the money time and a half the money that I was supposed to get.

Yeah.

You know, people like. Oh, we. We don't know. Cause you don't sign that often. Would you sign, you know, this many helmets or this many jerseys? Sure, yes. But you understood. I mean, look, we've all, you know, I don't know if you've done it, you know, take somebody with you and explain them. Like, look, this could be an hour. This could be an hour. This could be an hour and a half. It could be two hours. This thing might be three hours according to how many items they have.

Yeah, yeah, I do, though. I do those solo. I do those solo.

You pretty much have to, Ocho, because, you know, just sitting there watching you sign while somebody pulled it. Pull the jerseys or pull the pictures or pull the helmets. Pull the footballs.

Yeah.

The flats. That's not.

Yeah, Everybody. Everybody can't sit there through that.

No.

Matter of fact, I would just think about the past, what, two. Two days. Memorabilia.

Yeah.

I hosted something on Tick Tock with where fans are watching.

Yeah.

And they purchase memorabilia, but you don't know what's in the box until you pay for it.

Right.

And open it. And then obviously you pull out the helmet or you, you pull out the gloves or you pull out a jersey and it's player, whoever it may be, Tom Brady, Jamar Chase, stuff like that. I did that the past two days and it's such a joy. I have so much fun doing that. I got to the point where I was pulling people jerseys and names like Eric Dickinson and Bo Jackson. I started calling people just to make it even that much more fun because I got everybody's phone number.

Right.

So I pulled a Ray Lewis helmet that somebody won, you know, on TikTok that's watching the show. And I called Ray. I say, ray, what's up, baby? We just pulled your helmet and just showing them, showing the chat I did. Jamar Chase.

Yeah, I was just at autograph signing with Chase.

Yeah.

I think it was it March. It might have been April. Yeah, it was March. Mm. Or the beginning of April, Right? Yep. Ocho Titans quarterback Will Levis has elected to have season ending surgery on his right shoulder. The team announced Levis first suffered an AC joint injury injury while diving for a first down against the Miami Dolphins on September 30th. Levis spent the off season training with personal quarterback coach Jordan Palmer. The shoulder injury didn't appear to be an issue. Regardless, Cam Ward is now on the clock. It's his time now. Ocho, what are the Titans ceiling?

Oh, the Titans ceiling. You know, I'm not sure. I know the Titans got Calvin Ridley. I know that. I know the Titans Have Cam Ward. I know Cam Ward turned that University of Miami program around. Can Cam Ward replicate and duplicate what C.J. stroud did for the Texans? Can Cam Ward come in there and replicate what Jayden Daniels did for the.

Does he have the talent in Tennessee like they had in Washington, or like they had in Texas and Houston? A Nico Collins, A Tank Dale?

See, wait a minute. Stay with me. C.J. stroud had Nico Collins.

Tank Dale.

Cam Ward and Tank Dale. Cam Ward has Calvin Ridley from his. His player from Miami that he specifically asked for. He has Calvin Ridley. I'm not sure who the other receiver is on the other side, but Traylon.

Burks, the one they traded AJ Brown away for, and take number one the first round in Arkansas.

But I. I think. I think I'm hoping. I just want. I want him to be successful. Cam Ward is the first number one pick in the history of. Me watching the NFL, even when I was playing in after that wasn't talked about like other first round picks because all the attention and media coverage went to Shador Sanders.

Yep.

Amazing.

It's the same thing.

Like Bronnie James Waters flew right up under the radar the whole time, and he was the number one pick.

The way they talk about Bronnie James, you'd have thought he'd have been the number one pick.

Yeah.

It's the same thing with Shador. And everybody forgot, like, hold on. Damn. Cam Ward went number one.

You know, I. It's. It's. I'm. I'm excited for him. I'm hoping. I'm hoping. I'm hoping. I'm hoping because Tennessee needs a quarterback. Tennessee needs a quarterback. They need a quarterback for their franchise that, you know what? Boom. We finally found one. Well, you know, look, the last consistent quarterback that they had. Consistent. Okay. We got our guy. Am I wrong to say Steve McNair or am I. Am I tripping?

Well, Vy was pretty good. You remember Vy? Vince Young.

Okay. Vince. Wait, hey, how long was Vince there?

Probably about four years. He was rookie of the year, right?

Yes.

He won. They had the number one seed and they ended up getting beat.

Why was it only four years? Huh?

Him and Fish, the coach from the.

Rams, they didn't get along.

Jeff Fisher.

Jeff Fisher. Yeah. Okay.

Was he more than there? Five years? Was he four or five years?

Damn, man. Damn. Just. That's. That's crazy. Hey, Vince was nice, boy. Yeah, Vince was nice.

Because he was there with C2K.

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

The five years. And remember the, you know, story that, you know, he was suicidal and he'd call the police. Nobody heard from him, nobody had seen him. It was just, it was just a whole lot of mess. Yeah.

Oh yeah, I remember. I don't remember that stuff.

It was a whole lot of mess. But Cam, you're on the clock, bro. Good luck.

Handle your business, boy.

Carly ursay Gordon believes 23 year old Anthony Richardson can still play well enough to justify the Colts lofty expectations for him before the draft, where he is in his career and the deal as a rookie. We still have time, he still has time to prove it, bring a sense of urgency. And nothing brings a sense of urgency more than competition. But before Richardson can prove it on the field, he has to prove it in training camp by beating out Daniel Jones in the colts quarterback competition. AR career completion percentage is just 50.6%. He has 11 touchdowns and 13 interceptions.

Listen, he has to prove with it more than just on the field. Improves a lot of room, more than just in the field. He has to feel, he has to prove it inside the building. Showing the coaches that you're serious about wanting to be quarterback number one for this team. It ain't about just doing it on the field, in the field room, being the first one to get there, being the last one to leave that building. You know, when it comes to everything else, just, just. He's always, he's been injured a lot, right? So treatment, getting treatment, doing it, being on time, not missing those, doing the extra work, staying after practice, going with the diva. There's so many different things. See, the precedent has already been set on what it takes to be a great quarterback. With Peyton Manning, all of them, I.

Mean, the quarterbacks, Ocho, they getting treatment. They got their playbook.

Hey, you have to want it. You got to want it the same. The same want. Let's see. I'm sure he has a hobby. I'm not sure what his hobby is, but whatever that hobby may be, football got to come first. But that same joy and passion and love you have for that hobby, you got to pour it into football because that's going to be there. Oh, it's going to be there. Because the bulky money that can be made, it come from this. It come from this. You got, you got to understand that. So listen, the writing is on the wall.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. We go behind the scenes and explore the stories of those involved.

[Shannon Sharpe]

San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a Men's professional soccer team.

[Guest Speaker]

We need veteran players and we need young players. Like you're building a team from scratch. And so the succession plan of long term success needs to be defined. We need to embrace this community.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When I was 13, my uncle took me to a qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile, pouring rain. Just watching the fans jumping up and down, I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that going to be my game, but it was going to be my life.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

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[Co-Host]

You talk about nothing brings the best out of someone like competition. Well, this is more the competition because they just paid someone where it didn't work out in goddamn New York and they just bought somebody for one year with 14 million. That's basically telling you your job is in jeopardy or they already written in stone that your job is already his and no matter what you do, you might not be able to beat him out.

Yeah, you're right.

And if you don't, if you don't win the starting job here in Indianapolis.

Oh, you gone after this year. If you don't win a starting job.

That you, you, you won't be a starter again in general.

Well, you ain't gonna be no starting Indy if you don't beat Daniel Jones out because it don't make no sense to keep you.

And, and you look at all. All the other 31 teams, they are set at the quarterback position. They're set at the quarterback position.

See the nine never ojo.

Yeah.

Now. Never.

I hate. I hate saying that too. Hate saying it.

It's just the reality of it. They put a lot into you. They drafted you a lot on potential. Yeah, because it was never. No, it wasn't a sit. It wasn't a situation where you were polished. Everybody knew you were a project. And then they said that going into the combine. But then as big as you are, as strong as you were, as fast as you ran, you shot up the draft board.

You can't pass up on that. You just can't. Especially the way scouts think. Especially the way owners think. We can't pass up on that.

But he hasn't. The thing is, Ocho, and I get it, but he hasn't gotten any better. He was a project in high school, he was a project in college. He's a project now. He's like that church building fund. That thing ain't never been completed and we still pouring more money into it. And the church building fund and the building has never been complete.

Not the church building fund.

You know, hey, in our community, we know. Everybody know about that building fund and that that building ain't complete yet. And they still taking up money every day on four Sunday. That's Anthony Richardson. He a church building fund. He ain't complete yet. Oh, I don't know if he'll ever be complete, Ocho, right?

I'm hoping. I'm hoping. He got all the resources. He got all the tools, bro.

Look at what he got in Indy.

Got everything. You got everything you need.

Downs, Pittman Jr. Alec Pierce, Eric Pierce. You got Jonathan Taylor. Very good offensive line.

Yeah, man.

Come on, bro.

Yeah, I'm hoping.

He ain't got no slack. He don't got no slouch skill players around him now.

No, absolutely not. Absolutely not.

Very. No excuse none. I can see Ocho. He said, well, he don't really have nothing around him. Come on, O. I mean, he needs a bro, right? Nobody in their right mind can say this man does not have talent around him at the skill position. You look at the wide receivers. He still has a top five running back in Jonathan Taylor. He has a solid offensive line. There ain't no reason for him to underachieve. Like, he's been unachieved now. I get it. He's been hurt. But, bro, if you get your opportunity, you better seize the moment.

Yeah.

This might be your last chance in Indy. Yeah, Ocho. A video circulating of KP Kelsey Plum appearing to call out Caitlin Clark at the WNBA all Star weekend. Take a look at this video.

[Kelsey Plum]

That was a very powerful moment. We didn't. At least as players, we didn't know that that was gonna happen. So I think it was kind of like a genuine surprise. But the T shirt just united front was determined this morning that we had a meeting for. And, you know, not to tattletale, but zero members of team Clark were very present for that. But no, we were just. We had a very.

[Co-Host]

That really needed to be mentioned.

[Kelsey Plum]

I'm trying to make a situation light.

[Co-Host]

Okay.

[Kelsey Plum]

But, yeah, no, I think it was just all of us getting on the same page for the game. We wanted to do something that was just united and collective, and I thought that was a very powerful moment and got the point across. And, you know, sometimes you don't have to say anything.

[Co-Host]

Yeah, she tried to make light of the situation. Look, I like kp. She was great when she was here. I saw. Saw them play last year out here in Vegas. Kay. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Ain't nobody ask you that. Don't do that. Don't do that. What'd you think? Something or nothing?

Nah, ain't nothing.

Okay.

Ain't nothing. But obviously you.

You know, anytime you mention CC's name, you are. You. You already know what it's gonna get. Good, better, and different.

Different, right. Yeah, that. But she did. She did the best she could to. To make light of the situation.

Yeah. It's just like, you know, certain. LeBron. You mentioned LeBron. You already know what's coming with that.

Yeah.

You know, some people just are polarizing. Yeah, that's the term, polarizing. And that's Caitlin Clark.

Yeah.

But, hey, y' all have to play some D next year, though. Y' all get like the W. Y' all get like the NBA. Ain't nobody coming to see no 130. How many points they score? Like 130, 140 something. Yeah, come on, now. Now, come. Don't. Don't get like the. Don't get like the NBA now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not 151. 131. No, no, no, no, no. Come on, y'. All. You're starting to build a following. 151 ain't gonna do it.

Keep it. Keep it exciting. Keep it. Keep it fun.

LeBron thinks the NBA should give an Offensive Player of the year award, similar to the NFL. I did think about how the NFL does offensive Player of the Year in mvp. I thought that could possibly be something in our league where you give an offensive player of the year and an mvp. It changes. It's like, okay, so it's the best offensive player, or maybe it's the player who had the best season with their team. Maybe that's an offensive player of the year or just simply the best player in the league. Statistically, that was the best player in our league. Obviously, you're not going to have someone whose team didn't come close to making the playoffs is not the most valuable. Then what you think, Ocho?

I mean, it's cool to acknowledge, you know, said individual or said player. They had the sixth man of the year.

You got sixth man of the year. You got the scoring title. Damn, how many awards y' all want to give?

I think it's enough. But adding one more to pay homage to someone that played well on a winning team that might have fell short of winning a championship, well, that's the mvp. It's not a bet. It's not a bad thing.

I mean, the MVP doesn't always win the championship.

Right.

Sometimes they get knocked, not early.

That is true. That is true.

Yeah. I don't think we need to give out any more awards. I mean, you know, now they getting, you know, defensive Lineman of the year. They getting Offensive Lineman of the year. That. Damn.

Yeah. Now, I do like that one, though, for the offensive lineman. The defensive lineman.

I don't think they got a defensive lineman. I just made that up. I just made that up. Ocho, I like.

I think it might. If I'm not mistaken, it might have been Dion Dawkins idea.

Yeah. But they do have an Offensive Lineman of the year.

Yeah, I like that, though. But I mean, I don't know what you thinking. It's up in the air. I like it. It's cool. Not necessary, but it's cool. He has his reasons on why, but I think they have enough awards for those that have done their part.

Right. I agree. I don't think the NBA needs a. Y' all get, what you call them. Y' all get a Larry Bird and a Magic Johnson award for winning the conference. No player gets that. NFL doesn't give out awards for winning the conference. I think we sit on the wards. Let's not dilute the ward by adding more. You dilute it and it's different. A guard can win an mvp. A center can win the mvp. I mean, you know, in basketball, forward, for the most part. He's gonna be a quarterback.

Right?

It'll be a quarterback. Shay won the mvp. Jokic won the mvp. Embiid won the mvp. Giannis won the mvp. Wide receiver ain't winning no mvp. Tight end ain't winning no mvp.

You know how well you have to do to win MVP at that position? That's.

You get offensive player of the year. Jared's won a couple of those. Running back. I mean, now in today's game, it's going to be. It's virtually impossible. Unless. Unless you rush for 2,000 yards and 27 touchdowns.

Touchdown. Gotta be some astronomical. Something extraordinary.

Yes. Because if a receiver has. You got three receivers that have 3,000 yards, your quarterback's gonna have damn near 5,000, and he's gonna have 40, 50 touchdowns. So guess what?

He gonna win it in the mvp. Yep.

So, yeah, I think it's different. I think it's easier. Cause look at. In baseball, a catcher could win the mvp. A first baseman, second baseman, outfielder. Hell, we seeing pitchers winning.

Yeah.

Now, I don't think we're ever going to see another defensive player win MVP unless he goes 30 sacks. LeBron also reportedly wants a Fair World tour before retirement.

That goes without saying. He gonna get that anyway. Yeah, all the greats have gotten a farewell tour, but you got.

But you got to tell people that's going to be your last year.

Yeah, he going to get one.

Like Kareem. Yeah, Kareem told people, I think Bird got one, then. Bird. You know, I think they had rocking chair for Bird or something. But everybody, look, that's reserved for the. The few, the greats.

He's one. He's one of those. No, he's gonna get one. He didn't have to mention wanting a fair word, a farewell tour. He gonna get that regardless based on what he accomplished.

Wow. Yeah. But, you know, because Michael Jordan didn't have one, so that means LeBron shouldn't want one. Cause anything. LeBron, you know, now they sell Michael LeBron on the golf court. Well, he only playing golf. Cause Michael Jordan played like that, man. Can't have a highlight. You know, a lot of athletes, they get into golf because it's, you know, competitive. They get an opportunity to get out there and compete with their buddies and drink and have a good time.

If I'm not mistaken, golf, the golf course, is where business deals get done.

A lot of them.

When it comes to business, we know LeBron is one of the savviest areas in the world at it. So, yeah, him using golf as a way to conduct business instead of being in a cold meeting room, so be it.

CP3 is resigning with the Clippers. Osho Social media was quick to point out the team's ages. Kawhi is 34. James Harden is 36. Bradley Beal is 32. CP3 is 40. Brook is 37. Batum is 37. Damn.

Oh, like varsity. Varsity team, huh?

Yeah, they seasoned.

Yeah, they seasoned. That's a good and a bad thing. That's a good and a bad thing. I like. I like to see CP3.

Everything is predicated on Kawhi. Yeah, Kawhi's healthy. They'll be there at the end. I mean, if he's not, they're not doing anything.

God damn, Brad. Hey, they got a nice squad too, huh? I'm just looking at the names. It's one thing, you know, how that. That can trick you when you have the names, but how do they play as a unit? How do they play as a unit?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. We go behind the scenes and explore the stories of those involved.

[Shannon Sharpe]

San Diego coming to MLS is going to be a game changer because this region has been hungry for a men's professional soccer team.

[Guest Speaker]

We need veteran players and we need young players. Like you're building a team from scratch. And so the succession plan of long term success needs to be defined. We need to embrace this community.

[Shannon Sharpe]

When I was 13, my uncle took me to a qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile, pouring rain. Just watching the fans jumping up and down, I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that going to be my game, but it was going to be my life.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Listen to San Diego FC behind the flow now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Co-Host]

Nobody said but they got. They got a 40 year old, two 37 year olds and a 36 year old.

It's a lot of basketball.

It's predicated on Kawhi needs. Kawhi KN can hold up. They got a chance to be there at the end. Do I think they're better than Do I think they're better than the. The Thunder? No. Do I think they're better than the Nuggets? No. Especially with now they got Cam Johnson in there and Michael Porter Jr. Is elsewhere. No, I don't. I'm not sure they're better than the Lakers. Are we sure. Are we sure they better than Lakers? I'm not.

[Guest Speaker]

You don't think so?

[Co-Host]

I mean, I want to see the Rockets. He. Look, I think the Rockets are going to be really good. I'm anxious to see KD and Thompson and Van Fleet and Shingoon. I'm anxious to see those guys. Dallas would be serious if Kyrie was back, but I don't think Kyrie's going to play this year. I really don't. I don't think Kyrie's playing until the 26, 26, 27 season. And I don't blame him.

Yeah. Don't come back.

After years of house rule debates, UNO has officially confirmed yes, you can end the game with a power card. Whether it's a skip, reverse draw two or even wild draw four. It is a legal final move.

Yeah.

Next player still has to draw, but the game ends immediately.

Well, that. That's. Oh, that happens always. Only if the car that's. That's. That's laid down is the same color. Yeah, that's always been.

But they said it couldn't be a power card, which is a Skill Reverse Draw 2 or anything else.

Yeah, but it can if the color matches. That's laid down beforehand. So the person that Goes before me. Let's say they throw down a two, and the two is blue.

Right.

And I have a blue draw four. I mean, not. Not draw four. Yeah. Or draw draw four.

But it's not blue. It's a wild color. So it has to be a draw two to be the color. Or wild draw four.

Yeah. You can end the game like that. You've always been able to do that. And I can tell you.

But, you know, y' all been changing the rules. Cause sometimes y' all say no, you can't entertain on. On a power card.

I play, I play. I play. I play old school. I play old school rules. I. And if I'm not mistaken, UNO will be in casinos starting in.

Uno said that wasn't. That was not the case. Somebody made that bull job up. Oo.

Who?

Social Club. They're not. It's social. Oo. You ain't going to be able to play for no money.

Oh, that wasn't real.

No.

Oh, hell no.

Ocho. We have some sad news today. Malcolm Jamal Warner, who played Theo Huxtable, reportedly died of an accidental drowning. He was 54 years of age. He leaves behind a wife and a daughter. The Cosby show, one of the most popular shows and sitcom history. Television history. He was the son, actually, he was the only son of. To Cliff Huxtable, who was played by Bill Cosby. And the wife was Phylicia Rashad. Claire. I think her name was Claire huxtable.

Yeah. Yeah. Ms. Huxtable. Yeah.

Malcolm Jamal Warner, gone at the age of 54. Leaves behind a wife and a daughter. Our thoughts and prayers go out to him and his family and all those impacted by this. Rest easy. Rest easy, bro. What? Life, man.

Fickle.

Ain't no promises. It.

It done. It doesn't hit you too. Most of the time, you know, you see these deaths of. Of. Of actors and actresses and people that you've watched growing up, and you get sad about it and then you move on. And life and how fickle it is, it doesn't. It really doesn't hit home until there's somebody that's close to you.

Yeah.

It doesn't hit home like it does unless there's somebody close to you and understanding it could. You never know when your expiration date is. You just never know.

Nope.

So you always.

And that's not. And that's not by accident.

Yeah.

Because see, you prepare. You get right. If you knew you had a day, if you had a month, if you had a year.

Yeah, I just. I need more people need to Be able to enjoy, enjoy. Enjoy yourself. Enjoy your life. Stop worrying about the things you can't control. Just live each day like it's your last. Because you just never know.

The one appointment, Ocho, you can't reschedule.

You can't what?

Reschedule if you got to show up at 8:30? 8:30 it is.

Yeah.

If it's on a Wednesday, can't say, hey, can I. Can I. Can I make it for Thursday? Can I make it for the following week?

The one appointment of one. Oh, I love that, man. The one appointment you can't reschedule.

All right, Ocho, we're gonna get out of here on this. It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Oh, man.

Damn it. Hey, Unc, you been to Austin before?

Austin, Texas?

That's where I'm at right now.

Yeah.

You been here before?

I have. I was there. Weren't we there for the I Heart Awards, Jordan? Yeah, Austin. Yeah. We went to our. Two years ago, we went to the Iheart Awards. Okay.

Okay, okay, okay.

Yeah, it was. Oh, February of. Was it? Yeah, it was February 24th. A year and a half, you said. You want to be specific? It was last year. Yeah. 18 months ago. RJ 2007. They hosting the USTA Track and Field Junior Olympics at your alma mater, Savannah State. 21st through the 27th. This weekend, shoot down here and bless the kids. Unfortunately, bro, I ain't gonna be able to do that. A cop signed and said, sorry, I got Ocho with a first round KO Man, Ocho ain't got no legs, man. He ain't got no power. Versal Mason, beautiful performance the other night. Shakura master class. Stay healthy, focus, champ, and ain't nobody beating you. Ocho spoke about that, had how Shakur looked. Extremely, extremely impressive. John Doe said, when you gonna sit down with Ray Lewis? Ocho, who is your NBA goat?

My NBA goat?

Yeah.

Oh, my goodness. Boy, that's a good question. I like Kobe, man.

I love you like Kobe.

I love LeBron, but I love Kobe. His approach, his tenacity, his willingness to just kill you. He wasn't friendly with nobody.

Nope.

At all. His approach, you know what it reminded me Kobe remind me of? And Chad, stay with me real quick with the comparison. I'm not saying this individual is the equivalent of Kobe in football, but his. His mindset and willingness to want to kill you and his way of playing Steve Smith Sr. Oh, yeah. You get where I'm going with that. Yeah, like, he really Just like, yeah, he hated everybody. Yeah, yeah. So Kobe, the way he played is like, he hated everybody. And it just. I'm not comparing them.

No, no. But I get what you're saying. The mindset.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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