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All the Smoke featuring Michelle Obama. To hear this podcast and more, open your free iHeartRadio app. Search all the Smoke and listen now. Ocho, what's up? Tom Brady said the quarterback position isn't as mentally developed as it was when he entered the league. I don't believe the quarterback position as mentally developed as it was when I entered the league 25 years ago. There was a premium on understanding defenses, on understanding matchups, on I'd say pre snaps reads, getting your team in and out of the right play. I felt the way to learn was play the position over a period of time. You truly give your team the best chance to win. To be a field general, I think you better have a mental advantage on the field and I think sometimes you there's more important than physical advantage. Oo, do you agree with him?
James Harrison
Hey, do me a fav. You said a whole lot right there that Brady said bring it, break it. Listen, break it down to me.
Chad Johnson
In our language he says there was a premium on understanding defenses. You had to understand what the defense was trying to do. So now you go out there and you looking, you're not just looking at your guy like, man, this quarters. Oh, this is covered. This. He got help over here. So you needed to understand a pre snap. You looking at the alignment, you're looking at that triangle. Okay, I see what y' all trying to do. So he said you guys need to have a pre snap. You need to have an understanding of what's about to happen. Make sure you get your guys, okay. Do not run a play into a safety that you can't block. Okay, that's a negative play. So you just gave up or down for whatever reason. Flip it right. I, I like audible out of it.
James Harrison
But, but listen, Tom Brady speaking from a standpoint of being number 12, a standpoint of having the, having the power and the ability to be able to change plays. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, they drew breeze. It's a few other quarterbacks that I can name. When they came to the line of scrimmage, no matter how much disguising you did, no matter how much bluffing you did based on down the distance, they, they already know from watching film. They know what the hell you doing. They know what the hell you doing. They know exactly where each player is going to be. Yes, snapping the ball, even if you wait, even if you wait late and wait till he snap the ball and he still sees moving in front of him. Because once they snap, they looking right downfield. Okay? If you. If you was down in the box and you shoot back out, okay, this is what they. He already know was coming. And he know every play you run, chat every. Every offensive play you run, especially when it's a pass play, there's always somebody open. There's always somewhere to go with the ball. And it's all about being able to process information on what you see in front of you and knowing where to go with it very fast. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees were the best at it. They were the best.
Chad Johnson
Sometimes you got to look at what those guys put in, because a lot of times guys see, a lot of times guys. Now there's more important things than football. Football was the most important thing to Tom Brady. It was the most important thing to Peyton Manning. So there was. There was no life outside of that during the season. The most important thing was football. They didn't play video game. It wasn't no Call of Duty. It wasn't no Madden. It wasn't no doing all this. They got all the commercials done in the off season. So everything that was focused was centered around how can I become the best football player I possibly can. The question you ask yourself is that what these quarterbacks today doing.
James Harrison
Yeah. And also you. You have to give some of the quarterbacks that they also, you have to give them a little grace. You have to give them a little grace because they. They're starting the game so young. They don't have the freedom to do some of the things that Tom Brady's mentioning. That takes time to develop, to even get to that point where you can recognize everything you're seeing and the coach trusts you. Peyton Manning was the coach.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
James Harrison
Brady was the coach.
Chad Johnson
But they know they put so much time into. Ooh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You.
James Harrison
You right, you right. So listen, quarterbacks right now, they can't come up to the line of scrimmage and see something and be like, you know what? This ain't gonna work. We can't run that play. Sometimes I watch it. I watch NFL games. Wait a minute. The defense shifted. The, the. The defensive line shifted to the right. Change it right. You running power, stretch to the right. Right into the teeth of the defense.
Chad Johnson
Right.
James Harrison
I think some quarterbacks don't have the freedom be able to do that because their officer coordinators don't trust them just yet because they're young.
Chad Johnson
No, you got. You got to earn that. The only guy had that kind of freedom early on was Peyton Manning.
James Harrison
Yeah, they.
Chad Johnson
They. They turned the keys over to Peyton. Brady didn't even have that kind of leeway early in his career. He earned that trust. Drew earned that trust. Rogers earned that trust. You have to earn that. And that doesn't happen overnight. It doesn't. Patrick Mahomes had to earn Andy's trust in order to be able to be able to audible in and out of plays, change a play. You know, things of that nature. It's different now, Ocho. I came in the league. The quarterbacks called their own plays. It wasn't looking at no risk. They called it plays. John Elway called his plays.
James Harrison
Seriously?
Chad Johnson
Yes. He called a game.
James Harrison
Damn.
Chad Johnson
Yes.
James Harrison
Wait, no offensive coordinator talking into.
Chad Johnson
They had. Hey, he might say what you like here.
James Harrison
Okay?
Chad Johnson
Yes. Quarterbacks. The old, the old guard. Don't. Those guys. I came in the league. Quarterbacks were calling some. A lot. Some of the quarterbacks, not all. Some of the quarterbacks were calling their own play. Yeah, like the sideline. Yeah, you gotta get out my ear. Get out. Get out of my ear. But it, it, it take. It takes a lot. You have to put a lot of. A lot of timing in and everybody. But like you said, you're talking about Brady running practice. He's running, he's running. Walkthroughs, he's running seven on seven. He's running, you know, two minute. He's running, running. No huddle. Tom is doing those things. If a quarter. If you want a quarterback to have, you got to let him do it. You got to let him do it.
James Harrison
I got to tell this story. I don't know if I'm getting in trouble or not. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to share this. I. I don't even care. I don't even care chat. I'm gonna tell you about why the New England Patriots were so goddamn good. Huh? Everybody in the chat. I know you saw the beginning of Full Metal Jacket with the sergeant going off cursing, and just a. He was. He was on one in the beginning of the movie Full Metal Jacket. One day in practice, Bill o', Brien, obviously the officer coordinator, calling the plays. We're in practice and Bill radios in the play in Tom's ear. I'm in the huddle. I'm assuming maybe Tom didn't get it. So Tom's sitting there with his head down, and he does one of these.
Chad Johnson
Give me the play.
James Harrison
Give me the play again. And I. Bill must have said it again. He didn't hear it because the thing. The. The communication must have Been off and Tom look back. Give me the goddamn play, Bill. I gave you the fucking play already. I said it two fucking times without him. Fucking get it. What the fuck you want me to do? Jesus Christ. We in the middle of practice. We're in the middle of practice. And at that moment I understood. This is why. This is why. The smallest things that period we were doing where that one play, that one play didn't work and it didn't go right. We started the whole period over.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
James Harrison
We started the whole period over so we can get all the plays in succession and get it the right way.
Chad Johnson
Yep.
James Harrison
I'm like, what? What?
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
James Harrison
Bill over there with his, with the whistle on his finger. Yeah. What are they running over here? No. It was unbelievable though. There's so many stories. I. I can share that one. Some of the other ones is a little too, A little too graphic, dog.
Chad Johnson
We, bro, we would go practices, the ball wouldn't touch the ground. Mike would come out there and says, I don't expect the ball to touch the ground. For real. Ball don't touch the ground.
James Harrison
Right, right, right.
Chad Johnson
Boy, look here, people. People bad. Look here, y'. All. If y' all look like I said, them 90s Broncos, you understand. Like, I understand why the Cowboys won in the 90s. I understand why the, the, the. The 49ers won in the 80s and the Steelers won. Because there's a level in which you practice that.
James Harrison
Yes.
Chad Johnson
Not that you get it right. You practice so you couldn't get it wrong.
James Harrison
Wrong. That's a good one. That's exactly how.
Chad Johnson
That's how we were. And it was. You so afraid to let the man next to you down and he's so afraid to let you down. I'm not gonna be the one to drop this ball. Nah, that ain't gonna happen to me.
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Uh huh.
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The U.S. open is here and on my podcast, Good Game with Sarah Spain, I'm breaking down the players from rising stars, legends chasing history, the predictions will we see a first time winner and the pressure. Billie Jean King says pressure is a privilege, you know, plus the stories and events off the court. And of course, the honey deuces, the signature cocktail of the U.S. open. The U.S. open has gotten to be a very fancy, wonderfully experiential sporting event. I mean, listen, their whole aim is to be accessible and inclusive for all tennis fans. Whether you play tennis or not. Tennis is full of compelling stories of late. Have you heard about icon Venus Williams recent wildcard bids? Or the young Canadian Victoria Mboko making a name for herself? How about Naomi Osaka getting back to form? To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Chad Johnson
Man. Ocho, bro, look here. I. Look, I. You. You. I've never really been around Tom, like, in a game. We played him. I played him twice. We played him in 2000 with my first year back in Denver. We beat him. And then they came and Tom threw a touchdown pass with like, 20 seconds to go in the ball game to beat us. But being around him and listening at him talk now you understand why he's how he is.
James Harrison
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
You understand it. You understand. You understand it. Absolutely.
James Harrison
He's an animal in film, in practice, once he's outside that building, completely different person.
Chad Johnson
Yes, I can relax.
James Harrison
Completely different person. I can believe it a few times. I've always. I've always told people, seeing Tom Brady, seeing Peyton Manning, seeing him in front of a camera, hearing them talk, it does no justice because they have to put on a certain facade. They have to mask who they truly are. Who? The fun side, the authentic Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. So nobody really knows who they are unless you know them personally.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
James Harrison
Some of the greatest. Some of the greatest, funniest dudes ever, and the fact that they have to remain a certain way once that camera's rolling, it's unfair. It's unfair to the world in general because you never get to see the real them. Everything you see is that political robot that says all the right things that. That patriot way. But outside of that dog Tom, you talk about funny dog.
Chad Johnson
I used to hate Ojo. You know what I hate? If somebody mess up, everybody get punished. Him bad old yo. The bad. Don't laugh, man. Come you out there running. I mean, somebody jump off sides or somebody do something and we all gotta run. Because their thought process was, if it happens in the game, he's not the only one that's gonna get punished. We get punished as a unit.
James Harrison
You. Yeah, right, right.
Chad Johnson
Hold on. That might be happen, but I'm on the side. Ocho, if the offense. With Dan Reeves, if the offense jumped offside, even if you ain't in the game, you had to run.
James Harrison
Wait, even if you're not in the game?
Chad Johnson
Yes. If you're not even in practice, the offense had to run, right?
James Harrison
Right.
Chad Johnson
Oh, Lord. Hey, listen.
James Harrison
Hey, Dan. Like one band, one sound, baby. Yes, one band, one sound.
Chad Johnson
Every time you jump offside, Ocho, you had to. You had to run a lap. Lap was around both football fields. So it's like, that's 400 yards, man. Why? I had to run three one day, Ocho.
James Harrison
Three. Somebody jumped offsides.
Chad Johnson
No me, man. Lord have mercy. Dad. Hey, boy. Dad. Dad was old. Old school. You heard how people talk about Coach Landry and how those old school coaches was. That's what Dan. Dan was the offensive coordinator for the Dallas Cowboys under Coach Landry. So he brought Coach Landry style. If you see Dan back when he first started coaching, he got a hat on, he got a shirt and tie. He got a suit on, just like Coach Landry. Now, he never really folded his arms like Coach Landry, right? Because Dan called the plays, Coach Landry turned, you know, turned some of the play clawing over. That was it, I think. You know, people said that was some of the. The thing between him and Roger Staubach, right? Because he didn't really want to let the reigns go, but. Oh, man. Yeah. Oh, but I show. I was like, damn. I don't know what it was. Oh, man. You know, you get tired. Oh, you be thinking.
James Harrison
I was like, damn.
Chad Johnson
Is it one? Was it on one? It was on two.
James Harrison
Put a ball. The ball right down your inside man.
Chad Johnson
I ain't looking at no ball, man. I'm looking up. Damn, that ball.
James Harrison
One thing about it, boy. Hey, my. Remember, I never forget my Coach. Coach Bud. Miamle x Optimus 1988 fatigue will make a fool of us all.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, it absolutely will. It absolutely will. But I. I remember that, man, all the running. And then like, we have guys, like guys that make weight in training camp. They have to run 110s after practice. So we've been out there for two hours, Ocho, and you know, you might have to run 10, you might have to run 12, man. You know, I. I run. I run with the guys, you know, because especially if one of the guys is in my group, one of the tight ends.
James Harrison
Right, right, right.
Chad Johnson
Or we have to run. We have to run after practice. So we might have to run 10, 12, 110s. I'm coasting. I'm. I'm cruising. They're like, pick it, pick it up. What? For what? As long as I make it.
James Harrison
So y' all was. Your team was different when my team, obviously not, not me, but when we were overweight, you know, it cost money a pound.
Chad Johnson
You still had to pay, but you had to run and get it up.
James Harrison
You got to pay and you got to run.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, yeah. You got to get up off you somehow, man, please. I. I ain't never had no problem with no weight that I ain't never had, you know, but I always. I always set my weight because I wanted something to fight for, you know, As I started to get older, Mike would say 84, you know. You sure you want to come in with this? I mean, you can come in a couple of pounds. I was like, nope, I want to come in this right here. Because I'm gonna come in and then, you know, I'll come in at 2:30, 2, 2:30 ish. By the time the first game start, I'm gonna be at 228. By the time the season end will be at 225, I already know. Got it time, got it planned down to the tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. Just like this. Know what I'm going to eat? I know when I'm going to eat. I know how much I'm going to eat. I know how much protein, carbohydrates, fats. I know all of that, but I just think that, you know, that's just the discipline, what it takes Ocho to be the best. Because that's what I was trying to be. I was trying to be the best. I don't know what somebody else was doing. All I can do is me versus me. I'm gonna get everything I can out of this God given talent. And then, hey, what he didn't give me, I can't complain. But he did give me discipline and hard and work ethic to get the most out of what I can do. Ocho, what do you think the most difficult position is for a rookie? Defensive position.
James Harrison
Oh, defensive back. Yeah, defensive back.
Chad Johnson
Oh, absolutely.
James Harrison
Coming in, coming in, coming in from college, the speed of the game has changed. The place you got to go, then plays you got to go against are a little bit more polished than what you saw in college. Everybody's fast. Everybody's fast now, you know, so really understanding who's in front of you, making sure you discipline your eyes, your tail, discipline.
Chad Johnson
Every.
James Harrison
Everything matters now. Once you get to that next left. I mean, listen, you coordinators can hide you sometimes, you know, put the safety over top of you. I mean, man, listen, man, db the most difficult.
Chad Johnson
Well, hey, not when you got one on one and you ain't got no DB over the top of you. Because did y'.
James Harrison
All.
Chad Johnson
I'm assuming y' all did. Hold on. I'm trying to think. Did y' all do one on ones every day, or y' all just did one on ones on. On Thursday?
James Harrison
Probably Wednesday and Thursday. Yeah, yeah. You know, Wednesday. Wednesday will obviously open field day. Yeah, Thursday is red zone. So we do red zone. One on ones on Thursdays. Friday. Friday is a combination of both. You know, practice only an hour on Fridays.
Chad Johnson
Oh, yeah, that was. Yeah, it was. It's funny that I think about, like, man, but that was the book. I really, truly felt that at practice is when I was getting better. Ocho, if I could be the guy that sees me every day, have seen me every day for years.
James Harrison
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
What chance that guy got in the.
James Harrison
Game on Sunday and. None at all.
Chad Johnson
Zero.
James Harrison
None at all.
Chad Johnson
Bro, I don't even see you. Just. Just so you know, I don't even see you. I. I. All that you talking about. Okay. Got something for you. But that, man, I just. But you just understand. People get to where they need to go doing different things. Ocho. Yeah, I was. It was the end. All be all right. Some Ocho, I had teammates. They had to go out Wednesday night, Thursday night, Friday night. They got to. Right? They got to. They missing something. Something might happen, and I ain't there to see it. Like, bro, how.
James Harrison
How.
Chad Johnson
Man, I gotta get. Man, I gotta get me like, I'm in the bed. Oh, yo, I'm in the bed at 10.
James Harrison
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Hell, I was old way before my time. Hell, I was in my 20s. I was in my tweet to go to bed at at 10.
James Harrison
Yeah, yeah, we. We in the same boat in a sense. But you. You were here, and I was out here. You was like, I mean. Oh, man.
Chad Johnson
The same way when I was in college. Oh, yo, when I was in college, I was a teenager.
James Harrison
Oh.
Chad Johnson
Child to bed at 10:30, sleep out. Yeah, out, man. What roommate would come in there and cut that light on?
James Harrison
Yeah, I, I understood early. In college at Langston University at Santa Monica, going out costs. It costs money. And I ain't spending no money. So it was easy. It was easy for me not to go anywhere. And not going anywhere gaming my money. My money I had to, had to spend. It was spent on buying games. That was it. That's when my money went.
Chad Johnson
I mean, I didn't really watch no football games, Ocho. I would only watch a football game, a Monday night game, Ocho. If we weren't gonna play that team during the season, if we're gonna play that team during the season, I ain't watching it.
James Harrison
No.
Chad Johnson
Nope. Because I didn't want to have a false sense. Because if they look bad, I didn't want to say, oh, we're gonna run through them. Or if they look good, I'm like, damn, we got our work cut out.
James Harrison
I got you.
Chad Johnson
But I've always, I've always been a guy that got in a. Like I said in college, I'm 10 o'. Clock. And don't be running out there because you know that, that, that I was just reading some. A kid, I think, 11 year old kid in Houston just got shot again. Oo playing that knock knock ding ding thing.
James Harrison
Playing on, playing on people porch.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, ding, ding dong ditch. Yeah, man, just got, man. Oo guys in college. Oo boom, boom, boom, boom, boom boom. Beat on your door.
James Harrison
Knock on your dorm room though, and running.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Really, guys, Really.
James Harrison
I listen, I'm, I'm one. That was me. And I listen you talk about ding dong ditch. I'm, you know, my condolences to the young bull that lost his life in Houston doing that. But I was doing that too, back in the city. I never forget. Scott projects. Scott produce me and Snoop minutes. I don't know if you remember Marvin Menace.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I heard of. I don't know him, man.
James Harrison
We was little kids. Man in the sky projects man. Knock, knock knock. Taking off. I remember them days, mother. Some good days.
Chad Johnson
That was like my, my, my, my rook my freshman year when I got to, when I got to be a sophomore.
James Harrison
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
And I was, I was the bmoc, right? Don't do that. What BMOC stand for Big man on campus.
James Harrison
Okay. Okay, okay. Oh, you that boy, huh? Okay.
Chad Johnson
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. My side for my side. Well, yeah, and definitely my junior and senior year.
James Harrison
Oh, yeah, you were that man.
Chad Johnson
Y', all, man. Y' all know how sharp is, man.
James Harrison
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Okay. Nah, nah, nah. OO I'm just. I just. But I needed my rest. I. I done did. Look, I done practice my ass off. Coach Davis done had us out there for two, two and a half hours. I done gone to study hall, did my homework. I'm out O. I got to get up at 7 in the morning. I got class at 8. So I got to get up, shower, put my clothes on, go to the cafeteria, eat breakfast.
James Harrison
Time out. Time out. You schedule your classes for early in the morning?
Chad Johnson
Oh, yeah, boy. Look here, Bill said. Bill Davis say, look here. You ain't on no academic scholarship. You on a football scholarship, boy. You could have no class. You couldn't have no class. The latest. You could have a class. We had practice at. We had practice at 3. The latest. The absolute latest.
James Harrison
Right?
Chad Johnson
Bill didn't want. Coach Davis didn't want you to have a class. Afternoon, My class was 8. 8 to 9, 9 to 10, 10 to 11, 11 to 12. I go eat. 30 minutes to eat. Then I go get me hour and a half nap. Get up, walk to practice. We had to walk to practice. We couldn't drive to practice. We had to walk to practice, which was like maybe a half a mile. Practice for two, two and a half hours, Go to the cafeteria, eat, go shower, go do my homework. 10 o', clock, 10:30, lights out.
James Harrison
You better than me. I wouldn't. I. I get up early, but I ain't getting up to go to no class.
Chad Johnson
The only problem that. Coach, look, Coach Davis. I love Coach Davis. Today, the only time, the only time he and I butted heads. 5am workouts. That's the only time. That's the only time I've ever told a coach, Coach, I ain't gonna do it.
James Harrison
5:00Am I'm not gonna do it. But it's not the. That's not the military. That's like. That's like army. That's like, you know. Nah, that. They tr. That's.
Chad Johnson
They tripping, man. You know, you had the off season workouts. Ocho, five o', clock, me getting up early oo, it just like ruined my day. I feel like I'm sluggish the rest of the day.
James Harrison
If you have to get up early.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, man, I hated it.
James Harrison
Right?
Chad Johnson
And plus I had had to get up my senior year before I went to Savannah State. Ocho, we had you. We did construct, we did construction, we did landscaping. And I had to work in Savannah, and I lived in glenville, which is 65 miles away. We got to be on the job at 6am so the guy picking me up at 4:30, I said, Nah, man, I ain't doing that. Said, coach, I can't do it, coach. I said, coach, I can't do it. I said, coach, I can't do it. I'm home. He said, you the leader. I, I said, well, coach, I'm gonna have to leave from the bed, leave from my dorm room. And he didn't bother me because he know, hey, he know what I was there for. I was very, I was very specific. When he came to recruit me at Savannah State, when he came to my house to sign me that morning when I said, I, coach, I called him and said, coach, I want to sign with Savannah State. He said, I'm gonna put some clothes on. I'm coming right now. I said, no, coach, you can come in the morning. I was very intentional about what I wanted.
James Harrison
Right?
Chad Johnson
I can't do that.
James Harrison
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
What I can do is what I can do. Tom Brady says Aaron Rodgers is the most talented quarterback in NFL history. Aaron, in his prime, to me, is the greatest passer of the football the league has ever seen. He could get the ball from point A to point B faster and more accurate than any player in NFL history. You agree?
James Harrison
Absolutely. And you know, if anything, you might want to throw Brett Favre in it too.
Chad Johnson
I don't think Brett was a great thrower of the football. When I think of great throwers of the football, I'm looking at a guy like Aaron Rodgers. I'm looking at a guy like Dan Marino. Danny, wait.
James Harrison
You don't put.
Chad Johnson
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
James Harrison
You don't put bread in that conversation.
Chad Johnson
Not a great throw of the football. No.
James Harrison
But I understand what he's saying when he, when he talks about Aaron Rodgers, though.
Chad Johnson
The arm, the slots, the angles in which he can throw the ball from.
James Harrison
The platform, every last one from Mafia all the way down to the sidearm, it didn't matter. And he was accurate as hell. Yes, accurate as hell. Yeah, obviously. And especially Aaron Rodgers mechanics his footwork. That's not teaching.
Chad Johnson
You don't teach that.
James Harrison
You cannot.
Chad Johnson
You would never.
James Harrison
That he throwing off one foot. He throwing, going back because he already has arm strength to do it. He has the arm strength to be able to get away with some of the stuff that he does. Anything, Aaron Rodgers, like when it comes to playing the quarterback position, you can teach it because he's the only one that can get away with it because he has the arm.
Chad Johnson
But I still, to me, the greatest NFL season by a quarterback is Dan's season in 84.
James Harrison
Yeah. With the Dolphins. Yeah.
Chad Johnson
He threw for 48 touchdowns, 5,000 yards. In that era when you could knock hell out of the quarterback, you could knock hell out of the receivers, and he did that, that's still the greatest ball. That's, that is Joe Burrow season, his last year at lsu. That's, that's what that would be the equivalent of. You got to go and look, like I said, back, back, back then the defenses could punish the quarterback I'm talking about annihilate them. There was no, well, you know, you, you hit him in the back, you hit him in his knee, you hit him below the waist. And yeah, that was the greatest season. But I, I, I won't, I won't argue with Tom on this one. Aaron Rodgers, the way he could, the platforms, the arm slots, that which he could throw the ball from, and the accuracy in which he can throw from any angle on the field, he said, I mean he, he's, he's gifted. He was gifted.
James Harrison
And the funny thing about it, a lot of people, a lot of people say, oh, Aaron Rodgers, trash like I. If you've watched the game of football, when Aaron was in his prime with Green Break.
Chad Johnson
Yeah.
James Harrison
With Donald Driver, Jordy Nelson, devonte Adams.
Chad Johnson
Man, oh, he had some, he had a Greg Jennings.
James Harrison
Greg Jennings, James Johnson. Yes. Well, he could slang it boy, huh? He could sling it.
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Chad Johnson
And now lateral to Allen and reaching for the pylon. Are you kidding me? It's a touchdown. Have you ever seen that one before?
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Chad Johnson
Run again, rejected. And it's a bulldozer. He is bouncing off defenders and dragged down.
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Chad Johnson
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James Harrison
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James Harrison
Damn, just thinking about that cd.
Chad Johnson
Lamb denounced rumors that Michael Parsons was considered both egotistical and self centered. That's my dog. He knows it. I expressed to him just about every week I could so he knows he I so I feel like he knows where we stand as far as the brotherhood, friendship and all that. So obviously wishing him the best, hope he has the best season ever. Trayvon Diggs felt everyone in Dallas currently locker room like Micah and he indicated that the fuel for those rumors likely came from former Cowboys. He didn't name names, but it was pretty clear Diggs was referring to DeMarcus Lawrence. I think everyone liked him. I feel there were some former players who are not here no more who didn't like Michael and there's a lot of that, I would say hate, jealousy, envy towards him because of who he is and the production that he does on the field. Imagine if you could come here like, and you're talking like somebody shine or taking somebody's spot. You're not going to like that they're going to feel some type of way. Especially you're that type of person. The greater the person, listen, because sometimes I think people, the greater the athlete, the greater the individual, the bigger the ego. Quarterbacks have the biggest ego. They do the best job of hiding it. The greater the person, the greater the player, the more accomplished the person is. So, so are we saying that Beyonce and Taylor Swift ain't got no ego? Are we saying Drake, Michael Jackson, Whitney and Mariah and have no ego? Are we saying. Are we saying Elon Musk and who. Whomever got no ego. So we're saying Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Lawrence Taylor, Jim Brown ain't have no ego.
James Harrison
They all do.
Chad Johnson
The greater the person, the more accomplished.
James Harrison
A person, more successful. Yeah, all of them, man.
Chad Johnson
What. What we do? What we doing here? Everybody's not gonna be liked, and that's okay. What you do? What you do when you get on the field, bro, as long as you ain't a jerk. Not as long as you're not. Do you know doing anything that's gonna, that's gonna harm the locker room or call a fraction in the locker room, bro, I don't care nothing about that, bro.
James Harrison
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Johnson
First of all, I ain't going. I ain't going to your house like that anyway, so what you do? I don't care. You leave. Look, this is my locker right here, Ocho. This is my locker right here. As long as you don't f. With nothing in my locker, I'll give that what you do. I ain't messing with nothing in your locker. You got a job to do. I got a job to do.
James Harrison
Yeah. And that's.
Chad Johnson
Man, how you do. We don't have to be friends. We can be friendly. Yeah, different things, Ocho.
James Harrison
I mean, this is a locker room. You got 53 people. You got 53 people. Everybody's not gonna get along. Yeah, everybody's not gonna get along. You're gonna have egos. You're gonna have. You have. You're gonna have people with pride. You're gonna. Yes, you're gonna have jealousy, you know, and it's just. It's always. It's always been a part of sports. It's always been a part of locker rooms. It's always been a part of. You're not gonna like everybody.
Chad Johnson
Nope.
James Harrison
You're not there. This is, it's not a liking contest. You're there for one job.
Chad Johnson
And do your job.
James Harrison
That's it.
Chad Johnson
I like, I like you more. If you do your job good, I like you even more. But look, I, I, look, I, I don't. You know, clearly, CD and Diggs has a fondness to. With Micah. I've been around him a little bit. I don't have no problem with Micah. Never had a problem with it.
James Harrison
He's a funny, funny dude. That's why here. And hearing anything come up about ego and he's. Especially when it comes to him. He's a, He's a funny guy. He's young, you know, like, it's weird it's funny how everything comes out when someone actually leaves.
Chad Johnson
We knew that was gonna happen.
James Harrison
Funny how that works, you know?
Chad Johnson
You ever notice the guy was. Oh, he was a problem on the job. 15 for 20 years. Ain't nobody say nothing the moment somebody leave. Yeah, yeah, he was a problem.
James Harrison
Yeah, he was probably the best one on the job, too. Yes, let's add that.
Chad Johnson
The Miami Dolphins announced their captains for the 2025 season Monday, but there is one glaring omission. For the first time since joining the team in 2022, Tyreek Hill was not voted a captain by his teammates. Reek himself suggested this offseason that he likely would not be a captain this year due to his actions at the end of the 2024 regular season when he removed himself from a game from the finale and hinted after the game that he wanted to play elsewhere. Mike McDonald had a very revealing quote. I'm really excited about the whole voting process in general this year. The team was much more unified, and the focus was on those six guys was very clear. Those were resounding vote getters. We were focused on giving the keys to captaincy to guys that had earned it each and every day. That speaks of. That speaks to me the most is football team that knows who it wants to be led by.
James Harrison
And that's cute. That's cute. It's commendable, you know, having your peers on your team vote you. You know, vote you as a captain.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, no, you know, that'd be nice, man. I want the captain to see on my jersey.
James Harrison
That's cool. Honestly, for me. My Dolphins. My Dolphins. And those of you in the chat, I'm from Liberty City, born in Jackson Memorial Hospital Avenue. What I care about is, is my Dolphins playing well in the postseason? Is my Dolphins playing well when they play against teams that are above.500? Is my dolphins playing well when the weather is below 50 degrees? I don't care who's carrying that C on that goddamn chest. I just want us to be able to execute offensively and defensively when it matters most. That's it. That's it.
Chad Johnson
I mean, well, but look, you. There's no way it been. It'd have been a joke if he did what he did and he turns around the following year and he's a captain. Couldn't have that. They weren't gonna let that happen. Ocho. Even. Even if he got. Even if he got 52 votes, he wasn't gonna be no captain. They wouldn't let that happen. You know that. I know that. We know how it work. We know who they want to be captains.
James Harrison
Come on, now.
Chad Johnson
Okay, okay, okay, okay. We.
James Harrison
We on the same page.
Chad Johnson
We here. Yeah, we here. Yeah. But look, I. I look. I think Reek learned a valuable lesson. I think if he had to do it all over again, he definitely would do it a different way. He's going through some stuff right now. Reek. My heart goes. I tell you, because I think you're a phenomenal player. I absolutely do. And I know there's a. That's a lot on your mind. Anybody you know, being there, it's gonna be, hey, don't. Don't work, bro. It's easy to say, tell somebody not to worry about something when they're not going through it, but when you going through it. So, I mean, it's tough. Cause, like, you do things and, like, you. You in it, Ocho. You like. And the minute you do, you're like, damn. But I don't. I don't. I don't. I mean, Reek was in a great situation. Yeah, he went to Miami. That's where he wanted to go. I mean, they could have traded him someplace else. They ask him. I mean, think, Ocho. Think about this, Ocho. They ask you where you want to go. You want to go to the jets or you want to go to the Dolphins?
James Harrison
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
They put it where he wanted to be. And I get it. When you had the season come off, he led the league. And receiving. He was. Hey, remember last year, Ocho, he was the number one player voted by his peers in the top 100.
James Harrison
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Your quarterback gets nicked. You're not the same Reek. People like, you know, he didn't lose it.
James Harrison
Nothing.
Chad Johnson
It just. It's just that, you know, his quarterback got hurt. He. He. He's dependent on a quarterback that's injury prone. The guy's been injury prone since college. He limped into the NFL. He probably gonna limp out of it. He had a lot of injuries when he was at. When he was in Alabama. Ocho, you know, he had the tightrope surgery on his ankle. He had the dislocated hip. He had the injury. The pinky. He had an injury history.
James Harrison
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
And guess what. He's had a concussion or. I don't know if you want to say concussions or injury, but he's had a history since he's been with the Dolphins. And Tyreek's future is tied. His success, his production is tied to a guy that's injury prone. Yeah, it's kind of like, Ocho, you relying on somebody that's unreliable to get you to work, man, it's tough. It's tough. And then he didn't. He didn't make it no better because he could have just went there and says, like, I'm happy to be in Miami. It's great. Great weather, great team. But every chance he get, he tried to take a shot at Mahomes. Oh, Tua is more this than Mahomes. Oh, this is that and this, bro. You don't need to do that. Nobody. You're not. Even though you play with both, you're not going to convince anybody that Tua is a better quarterback than Homes. You're not. So why you try to do that? I believe you could, Ocho. I believe you can prop one guy up without trying to put another guy down.
James Harrison
Yeah, well, that in that situation, that's not putting a guy down because you can't put Mahomes down. Especially in that comparison when it comes to the quarterback position. But I think Reek has a lot to prove this year, especially coming up last year, obviously, them not voting in the captain. Boom. That's another one. Okay, y' all ain't want to vote me a captain? Okay. Hold my beer. Watch this. Watch this. Ain't he finna go slap even to go?
Chad Johnson
I hope so.
James Harrison
Go slap off.
Chad Johnson
Because I mean, you know, he. He's a special talent. There are not very many guys that's been played in the history of the game that had his God given ability that can take a ride, that can take any route on the field. And he's literally. He's a legitimate threat to hit his head on the goal post. Now we say that, oh, you give him a fight. No, no, no, no, no, no. There have only been a handful of guys that can literally take any type of route that you give them and you can strike up the band.
James Harrison
Yeah. Every time.
Chad Johnson
And you see that? You see, hey, you see he doing that? The bad player.
James Harrison
Yeah. And.
Chad Johnson
And Reek has that accountability. He just needs to get back to that and hopefully he can focus. I. I think being on the field, it allows you to like tunnel visual joke.
James Harrison
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
It allows you to lock go. You lock in. You got to compartmentalize the really good with a great at it.
James Harrison
That's the one place doesn't matter what's going on in life. You know, once I get to that stadium, once I get to that grass is different. Everything else is left outside.
Chad Johnson
No, no, I didn't. No. Somebody said you put two or down to put Tyreek up. No, I Just said he's not Mahomes. He's a good quarterback. He's not Mahomes. And Tyreek's production is tied to a guy that's injury prone. Did I lie? How many concussions has he had? How many times did he get injured at the University of Alabama? I'm just giving you facts. I ain't say he wasn't a. He a bad player. He a terrible player. That's not what I said. I said Tyreek's production is tied to a quarterback that's injury prone. That's factual. That ain't no. That ain't, that ain't no, you know, stretching the truth. That's not a lie. That is just factually correct.
James Harrison
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
And maybe Tyreek wouldn't have 17, 1800 yards because he got Kelsey and he got other guys. But if you go back and look at it, look at his production, it's 1300, it's 1400, it's 1500, it's 1300, it's fourteen hundred. It didn't have, though. It didn't have eighteen hundred and then nine hundred.
James Harrison
Right.
Chad Johnson
You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying, Ocho. Hey, I mean, you don't want to have no 1600 one year, then a thousand, 1200 one year, then 800. Nah. You want to be consistent. Hey, let me be somewhere that consists. Let me be 11 to 12, 1300. I can live with that right now. One year. If I won't have, you know, have one of your bust out years, I give me 2 or 3200 yard gains, I'll be on to something. But nah, but I, I just think the thing isn't like, you know, you're emotional. Things didn't go your way. You're like, damn, I'm going to get 100 yards. I want to continue my thousand, my thousand, you know, yard seasons. Ocho. That's going to come to an end. Damn, we're gonna miss the playoffs. That's gonna come to an end.
James Harrison
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
And he just got first. He got frustrated and it bubbled up. That's all it bubbled up. Made a mistake. He probably. And he said it, you know, I should have handled that differently. Wish I'd have handled it differently. And you know, lesson learned. And I believe, I believe, I believe he learned his lesson. I do.
James Harrison
Yeah, absolutely. He gonna bounce back.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. But. And I think McDonald says, you know, let's not focus on who didn't make it as captain. Let's talk about the guys that did make it as captain, they're deserving. They're the captains. That's who they want. The lead, Bradley Chubb. It's time for Chubb to come out there and, you know, play like the Chub. Like they gave up the draft picks for it to get him from Denver. It's time for him to play. It's time for him to show. Because it looks like Ocho, they kind of taking this thing apart. They let, you know, Kaleus Campbell go. They let Jalen Ramsey go. They let some of the, you know, they let Christian Wilkins go a few years ago. So it seems like, you know, the going forward, going forward, going for it.
James Harrison
Now, they're like, they're getting younger and younger. Getting younger and younger.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. So we'll see how it works out for your Dolphins this year. Shador Sanders seems to have. Seems to be the talk of college football after Arch Manning's disappointing debut. Fans are calling out the double standard for Arch Mannings pro debut. Pope Poor debut vs. Ohio State, being excused. While Shador wouldn't have gotten the same grace at Colorado. Why don't y' all call out Arch Manning, Nepo, baby, like y' all did? Shador and Bronnie Ocho. It's Arch Manning getting a free pass from the media just because of his last name. While Shadow would have been torn apart for the same performance.
James Harrison
Oh, yeah. I mean, obviously. I mean, that's the way it's always been. That's the way it's always been. I think watching Dan Orlofsky. Dan made some, some good excuses up there, you know. Yeah. For ours and the way, the way ours played. And obviously it's. It's just the makeup to make. The makeup of the media makeup is the DNA and, and which. The way they, they treat certain quarterbacks, depending on who it is. And they give them grace. They give, they give them grace all the time. And this happens all the time.
Chad Johnson
It does.
James Harrison
Some people will turn the blind eye to it, say, oh, that's not true. They'll come up with some damn conspiracy theory when it. Right there. It's right there in your face.
Chad Johnson
Right in your face.
James Harrison
What are you talking about? Yes, they're going to continue to make excuses for him if he has another bad game. I think obviously now they, I think now that they played Ohio State, some of the games leading forward going forward will be a little bit more easier. And boom, they, they, they, they gonna be right back to, you know, talking good about him. And we told you he was a generational talent. That's that they're gonna go right back into it. But I mean, that's, that's, that's neither here nor there. I think he's gonna continue to get better. Obviously, opening up a season with a team like that is for someone that's, that's, that's been under the helm, been under center for, for two or three years consistently, as opposed to this, your first year starting against Ohio State.
Chad Johnson
Well, but here's the thing, Ocho. Those are the kind of throws, that's who I want to see him make those throws against.
James Harrison
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
So what the hell you think they go, so what the hell you think the NFL is?
James Harrison
Yeah. Every week same thing.
Chad Johnson
Just think, just think about it, Ocho. If you go out there and you play good, good, inferior talent, but when the talent is on your level or better and you lay eggs, what does that say about you? Look, it's a one time thing. It can be a one time thing. But we can point out the fact that he didn't play well. Yeah, because I'm not. Hey, he might go on and come back and he might win the Heisman. But two things can, you know, two things can be true. He cannot have played well against Ohio State and still play well enough the rest of the season to win the Heisman or win the SEC or whatever the case may be. Two things can be true.
James Harrison
Right.
Chad Johnson
When Shador played, I said, ocho, look, it still bothers me that he bails too much. It still bothers me that he holds on to the ball. It still bothers me. We can give credit. He made some big time throws, Ocho. Yeah, I love the dagger throw. I love the throw where he threaded Anita. He led the seven route for the first touchdown. I love the over routes that he would throw. We see a lot of those from Brock Purdy. Yeah, I say, but, but Ocho still holds on to the ball. Too long.
James Harrison
Too long.
Chad Johnson
Man, I, I thought you, I thought you supposed to be coach Brian boy. Why you. Because my job is to critique and analyze. Two things can be true. I can be times boy and still critique his son and say, there are some things that are concerning for me. Yeah, that's, that's how the job works. You give credit when due and then when someone, you see something, you're like, okay, yeah, he played well. But there's some things that, hey, let's go ahead and correct these now before they bite you at the most inopportune of times. See people that want you to like if. Oh, that's your boy. No. Oh, oh, time. Your boy. You killing my. No, that was a poor game on Saturday. Yeah, I mean, what was that Friday that they played? That was Friday that Georgia Tech played, right? Friday. I said. I said. I said that as soon as we got on, said Ocho. What was that, about a minute, seven seconds? You got two timeouts. You throw one pass behind the line of scrimmage. The guy tackled you. You don't take a timeout. Yeah, I said that. Oh, oh, oh, your boy. Oh, you killing your boy. Now, I remember last year. You. He could do no wrong. No, when you do, it's right. You point out the right. But when he does wrong, you point out the wrong. That's what you do.
James Harrison
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Be fair, and time will tell you. And like he has so many times, one thing you're gonna. You're gonna know, you're gonna. You're gonna call it now. He said, I expect that. I'm your boy. You call it your boy. So you better call it over everybody else. And he's absolutely right. Do you think Arch would ever fall to the fifth round, do away with the draft? Man, stop it. Oh, y' all, fool, who y' all tried to kill?
James Harrison
Yeah, stop playing.
Chad Johnson
That ain't happening. That ain't happening. But I can see a scenario. He comes back because of Manning. Normally. Normally four years. Now, obviously, that's not Peyton, that's not Eli. But, you know, they're normally very scripted, very methodical about how they're going to do things. Ocho, very strategic. And plus, Ocho, his family is not in dire need of anything.
James Harrison
Right.
Chad Johnson
A lot of times these families, you know, it's like, bro, mom in the projects, grandma over here. Ain't no food in the refrigerator. The house leaking. We come on, bro.
James Harrison
Gotta get out of here.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, and I understand. I totally understand, bro. I think my brother told the. The story, I think he said on my podcast, because he thought about coming out as a junior, and they asked him why he didn't come out. He said we had been poor for 22 years. Eight more months wasn't gonna hurt nothing.
James Harrison
That's a good one.
Chad Johnson
He was right. Hey. I had been going to the woods, Ocho, for 19 years.
James Harrison
Use the bathroom, huh?
Chad Johnson
Yes.
James Harrison
Yes, sir.
Chad Johnson
I had dipped the bucket down in the well. Pull it up, pour it in something, take it in the house. I had been running the holes at the side of the house and putting in the tin tub. Let the sun heat it up, Take me a bath in the backyard. Could nobody see what number woods? Summer was bad. Could Them skeeters tell you up Ocho.
James Harrison
Oh, yeah.
Chad Johnson
I mean, think about Ocho. You gotta take the rage. Try to put you a shield around here. I'll take you a quick bath. Cut them Skeeter. Boy, they like they had swords, man. No, but I, but I, but I, but I understand, I understand. Our job is to get better. He went to Texas because of the success that Sark has with working with quarterbacks. Right. He could have gone anywhere, but he chose Texas for a reason. And it's not, it's not by accident. So could I see a scenario where he stays another year? Yes. And we gotta look. He didn't beat Ewers out for the job. Yours were the, were the seventh round pick. What round did Ewers get drafted in? Sixth to seven.
James Harrison
Right. He went to the Dolphins. I forgot what round he went though.
Chad Johnson
Seventh. He went seventh on the Show. But I think, hold on. I think Derek Carr was the first, the first overall pick and he couldn't beat Billy Volek out. See, if Billy Volek went to a Fresno State V O L E K. I think that's Volek. Eric Carr play with the Tennessee Titans. Yeah, I know he didn't go to Fresno State. Didn't Derek Carr come behind him? I don't think Derek Carr beat him out. So, I mean, Joe Burrow transferred, became the number one pick. Jameson Williams transferred, become a number one pick. Joe Burrow was the number one pick in the entire draft. Couldn't get no shine at Ohio State. Let that sink in, Ocho.
James Harrison
Yeah, you right. You right.
Chad Johnson
So this notion where he didn't do the things happen. So you're saying Joe Burr's not any good because he couldn't beat who? I forget the guy. What was the. I think it was the guy that passed away. Ocho, the black guy that got. Got hit.
James Harrison
Dwayne Haskins.
Chad Johnson
Yes. Yes. Things happen.
James Harrison
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Ocho. Vegas has Lamar Jackson at the back. He's back on top for the MVP odds. The reigning mvp, Josh Allen and Joe Barrow are hairs beneath him at plus 600. Patrick Mahomes rounding out the top four at plus 650. Is this the year Lamar puts it all together? Wins MVP and a Super Bowl?
James Harrison
I mean, it could be the year. It could be the year if it was going to happen. This is the funny thing when it comes about. When it comes to not just Lamar Jackson but Josh Allen and all those other quarterbacks in the afc, it's always going to be the same. The same. Same four. The same four. Same four. Now What Lamar Jackson do we get in the playoffs? What Lamar Jackson do we get in the playoffs? That's all that matters because we know what he gonna do in the regular season. Yes, we're gonna put up crazy numbers. Yes, gonna rush for crazy numbers. But what Lamar Jackson, Whatever Lamar Jackson be getting the postseason. That will be if those odds in Vegas come come true. That's all it come down to.
Chad Johnson
That's. And that's all I've said. I said I want to see the Lamar Jackson that's won the MVP or finished second. We have yet to see that guy for the totality of the playoffs. We've seen it for a game, Ocho, but we need to see it for the totality because we saw it last year. They didn't turn the ball. He didn't turn the ball over for like, eight, nine games, right? And then he had two big turnovers, and that was, you know, some of that's undoing. Like, look. And I get it. Such a. Hold on to the ball. Zay Flowers fumbled on the one, but he did give the. He did give the Chiefs a short field. He got stripped in the pocket. I just need Lamar to be Lamar in the postseason that he was in the regular season. I don't need anything else. I don't need to be. I don't need anything else, Ocho. I don't need him to be anything other than what he's shown us for the 17 8. For the 17 games in the regular season. If he's that. If he's that player. Can nobody beat the Ravens? Nobody?
James Harrison
Nah. Well, I don't know about nobody, Ocho.
Chad Johnson
The man threw 41 touchdowns with four picks.
James Harrison
Hold on, hold on. Don't jump on me. Don't jump on me. This is a new season with everything you just named is what he did last year. Now, I'm not saying he can't repeat it, but there's a team he has to deal with in the AFC North.
Chad Johnson
They own y'.
James Harrison
All. Come again?
Chad Johnson
They own y'. All. Lamar Jackson owned the Cincinnati Bengals.
James Harrison
Let me. Let me do something. Is the Ravens. That's your team, huh? Oh, you're supposed to be team that you spent two weeks at two years. Okay, two. Two years, two weeks is all the same. You want to bet something on that game?
Chad Johnson
Oh, Joe, it's kind of hard for you to borrow money when you owe money.
James Harrison
Huh? Oh, you know, hey, listen, I'm good for it. Like when I go.
Chad Johnson
No, you ain't good for it.
James Harrison
Hey, when I go to the casino, they just hand. They just give me what I want because they. They understand. Oh, Ocho, you here. Oh. We know you. We know. We gonna take care of you. What you need?
Chad Johnson
No.
James Harrison
What's your money line?
Chad Johnson
I'm a father. What you call them? On you. I'll press charges on you.
James Harrison
I ain't doing that. How you gonna press charges?
Chad Johnson
You'll be 5,900, and you won't pay.
James Harrison
Hold on, hold on, hold on. Is it. Is it written on paper?
Chad Johnson
They heard it. Oh, yeah, they got it. We got it on paper.
James Harrison
Where's that?
Chad Johnson
I don't.
James Harrison
I didn't sign nothing. I'm.
Chad Johnson
You ain't gotta sign up. We got it. We got a verbal contract. You bet me a verb.
James Harrison
Yeah. Michael Parsons and Jerry Jones had a verbal contract, too.
Chad Johnson
We got this out show to take for the. Here it is right here. This is oo. I bet you. All right, guys, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.
James Harrison
And I. I can't wait till that game Thursday.
Chad Johnson
But Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy. Hey, fam. When I was watching D Boy and Joe today, all I could do was look at Deebo's arms and think, lord, he gonna kill my poor cousin Ocho. Greatest addition to Shay Shay Media. He gonna kill who, Ocho?
James Harrison
I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't think she understands someone that size with that much muscle. They can't move. They gonna get. They. They can't. They can't move. We. We. We get so enamored at its size and big and strength and, you know, lifting all that heavyweight and. That'll mean nothing. That'll mean nothing. I'mma take James Harrison Nose and I'mma turn it upside down so we can smell his forehead. Like, I'm not playing with him. Man. This. This like it's. It's like it's getting serious at this point in. In February, that's when it's going. It's February. This is going down.
Chad Johnson
Going down, going down.
James Harrison
Yeah. Chat, Chat. Make sure all y' all be there, too.
Chad Johnson
I'mma Rob J. Said Coach Belichick's gonna be all right. Takes time to learn the system. Frustrated fans. This game should have been called the Poorly Dressed Head Coaches Bowl. Man, y' all know what y' all gonna get with Coach Belichick. Man, y' all know Coach Belichick gonna.
James Harrison
Be wearing some hoodie every time with no. With no sleeves.
Chad Johnson
Chris Ballard said you could be the greatest head coach in the world. But if you don't have the player that can execute at a high level, you're not going to be very good. Plain and simple. Chris, that is very very true. MSQ said. If you put all the best current college football players, no matter their graduating class on one team, could they beat the current worst NFL team? I'm already was hyped headed to UT cause he's a Manning quarterback with mobility unlike his aunts. Not saying that he's be like his uncle but hope he balls out since the first road game was against the defending champs.
James Harrison
Yeah.
Chad Johnson
Trey Tyner said. Ocho, I heard you call FAMU the best hbcu other than you might have forgot North Carolina A and T University Aggie pride.
James Harrison
Listen, I love North Carolina A and T. I've been there a few times. Been there with the football team, the coaches, obviously the band is as well. My daughter had a track meet out there. I forgot the name of that soul food place. I got in trouble too. I took all the football players and treated them to eat it Sit right in the plaza in the corner. It was really good. But the greatest HBCU of all time, you know, often imitated, never duplicated.
Chad Johnson
Savannah State is the lustrous the Tigers.
James Harrison
Florida A M Marching 100, the Blue.
Chad Johnson
And Orange Savannah State. The SSU Tigers. The SSU Tigers.
James Harrison
Oh, I thought when you said SSU I thought you was talking about like the Navy and like a ship.
Chad Johnson
Nah.
James Harrison
Okay.
Chad Johnson
I would not be a doctor. I tell you the reasons why I've been a Tiger for all my life. I'm gonna be a Tiger till I die. It's so hard. It's so hard to be a Tiger. Okay. It's so hard. It's so hard to be an SSU Tiger. Don't play with us, Ocho. We bought that. We them.
James Harrison
All right. Sound good?
Chad Johnson
Reform. Try hard said. How big is coaching for you in football? Is very big. Just from the outside looking in. Bama was posting videos like they own Soul Train before the game and we saw what happened. That never happened when the man was there a few years ago. Absolutely not.
James Harrison
Yeah, he had all the players too.
Chad Johnson
Yes, that's the difference. He had all the players.
James Harrison
Again, we talk about a great coach, but a great coach has great players. It's easy to be able to execute. Which is why Alabama looked like the Alabama were used to seeing. They don't look like that now because all the players are going in different places.
Chad Johnson
You think about it, Ocho, I mean he's had 52 first round draft picks first round. Orlando Pinon. If Jerry Jones doesn't bring it to Cows. Boys, you still think the Cowboys go back to back. That have been very, very interesting. As a matter of fact, Michael Irvin and I was talking about that. Emmett and I, we have that discussion a lot, too. They were loaded, man. They were good. They were really good. We'd had to be on our best behavior. Our absolute best behavior. Absolutely. But Jerry Eagle will let that happen. So.
James Harrison
Got in the way. Still getting in the way.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Deshaun Allen said, what's up, Uncle Nocho? My question is, which position has the most players in the hall of Fame? If I had to guess, probably quarterbacks.
James Harrison
I was. I was just gonna say quarterback. Probably. Probably. I could be wrong.
Chad Johnson
I mean, of starting positions, probably tight ends has the fewest. We're not counting special like punters and kickers and things like that. Oh, returners.
James Harrison
Right.
Chad Johnson
But of what is they safeties?
Sarah Spain
They categorize it so weird because they.
James Harrison
Have running back, quarterback when they used to play.
Chad Johnson
Yeah. Then they have halfback, fullback. They got the fewers. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you got centers, guards and tackle and all that were considered offensive line school. Bank says shout out to my birthday twins. January 9, 1990. We going to tootsies. What's. How you spell it?
James Harrison
Yeah, uncle, you want to go with us?
Chad Johnson
Nah, man. Oh, Joe. I got to build my best behavior. Oh, Joe. I'm sorry. Unfortunately.
James Harrison
Listen, listen, listen. Whoa, whoa. We can't do that. We can't. What we can't do is we can't go into the shell. We are all human. We all make mistakes. You learn from your mistakes, but you still have to live your life. You have to enjoy yourself. Hey, we, we on the other side of the mountain. Never forget.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
James Harrison
We're on the other side of the mountain. Okay, so we. We still have to live. You good?
Chad Johnson
I think I got about nine. I got about eight. I got about eight. Nine more months, Ocho.
James Harrison
Okay, okay.
Chad Johnson
I'm on probation. I got a probationary period. Nine more months.
James Harrison
You got your little ankle monitor on right now?
Chad Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They got me. They got me. Yeah. Probably my birthday. Probably about my birthday. I should be able to sit pretty.
James Harrison
Yeah, there it is. Okay.
Chad Johnson
Yeah, I'll be sitting pretty.
James Harrison
All right.
Chad Johnson
Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. We want to thank prize picks become our official gambling partner. Thank you so much for believing in Nightcap. Thank you so much for believing. Believing in Ocho And I. We really, really appreciate your support. Prize picks, please, please. Thank you. Thank you. Couldn't do it without you. Couldn't do it without you. Appreciate your prize picks. We're gonna have some fun this year. Ocho and I, we're gonna have some fun. I thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. That is my partner and co host, Liberty City's own Matting's ratings adjuster, Bingo's ring of Fame honoree, the former Pro Bowler all pro, he's Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Want to thank our very, very special guest, hall of fame running back, TCU alum great LaDanian Tomlinson. Thank you LT for joining us, man. LT He's a great guy. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit that like button. And do us all a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed, wherever you get your podcast from. We'd like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support because thanks to you, Nightcap has become what it's become. And Ocho and I, we could not have done it without your support. So thank you again. Make sure you check out Shay by La Portier. If you cannot find it in a city or state near you, order it online. We have plenty in stock and we'll ship it directly to your door. We have a commemorative box that you can see on your screen. It was something to to show the appreciation for my brother for his induction into the Pro Football hall of Fame. And it is a special limited edition commemorative edition of he and I together, two brothers in the Pro Football hall of Fame. The first two brothers selected to the Pro Football Pro Football hall of Fame. Just go check out laportier cognac.com to grab your special special bottle and if you don't get one, bring it to the bottle siding and your boy hook it up for you. Now I don't know how you gonna get my brother because unless you're on the golf course and catch him out there. But me, I'm coming to a city or state near you to have a couple of bottle signing. Please go follow my media company page on all of his platforms. Shay Shay Media and my clothing company 84. With 84 being spelled out. That link is pinned in the chat. We've got a new show that just launched under the Shay Shay media umbrella, the Debo and Joe show with James Harrison and Joe Hayden. Please go subscribe to their YouTube page Debo and Joe. They'll be live every Monday, Tuesday and Friday morning at 11am Eastern Time. Tomorrow is their second episode. So they're going to talk about. I'm sure they're gonna talk about this game. This happened tonight. TCU in North Carolina. TCU 48, North Carolina 14. Coach Belichick's college debut does not get up to the start that he had hoped for. I am up. He's Ocho. We will see. We're off the next two days. We're off tomorrow and Wednesday. We'll see you Thursday night.
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Eagles. Eagles.
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Eagles. Cowboys. Ocho. Thank you guys for your support. Thank you guys for believing in Nightcap. Thank you guys for supporting me. I greatly appreciate that. We're back Thursday after the game. Peace.
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Date: September 2, 2025
Host: Shannon Sharpe (Unc) & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson
Guest: James Harrison
In this episode of Nightcap on Club Shay Shay, NFL legends Shannon Sharpe (Unc) and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson dive deep into today’s headlines from the NFL and college football. The main themes center on quarterback development, player egos, locker room dynamics, Tyreek Hill’s removal as a Dolphins captain, and media double standards in college football — especially regarding Arch Manning and Shedeur Sanders. Full of stories, debates, and classic Unc & Ocho chemistry, the episode balances candid football insight with laughs and locker room tales.
Segment: [02:37-11:45]
Tom Brady’s Critique: Brady says QBs today aren’t as mentally developed as when he entered the league; there was a premium on understanding defenses, matchups, and doing deep pre-snap reads.
Unc’s Translation & Panel Reaction:
Culture & Commitment:
Old School Autonomy vs. Modern Systems:
Practice Culture/Excellence:
Segment: [16:35-18:59 & 39:47-43:36]
The real personality of great QBs (Brady, Manning) is hidden for the cameras—off-field, they're funny and authentic.
Old school consequences: entire units punished for teammate mistakes, running for offsides, weight management stories, training camp rituals.
Ego in Football:
Segment: [44:13-54:14]
Tyreek wasn’t voted captain after removing himself from a game last year and hinting he wanted out. Coach McDonald said captains were “clear” and “earned…every day.”
Ocho and Harrison note that this was to be expected—teams aren’t going to reward a player after behavior like Tyreek’s, regardless of vote count.
They stress talent isn’t enough—your status is directly tied to actions and reliability. Also, discuss how Tyreek’s production is dependent on Tua, who is injury-prone.
Predict Tyreek will use this as motivation, “Hold my beer–watch this.”
Segment: [54:20-59:42]
Arch Manning’s struggling debut against Ohio State is being excused, while media was far harsher on Shedeur Sanders and Bronny James for their early performance.
Ocho and Unc break down why, as legacy/nepo-babies, expectations and criticism are uneven.
Recognition that both things can be true: a player can be great AND have a bad game; excuses shouldn’t be made for one and not the other.
Segment: [32:00-35:01]
Tom Brady called Aaron Rodgers “the most talented QB in NFL history.” Both James and Chad largely agree, with Dan Marino also named as an elite thrower.
Quote (Sharpe): “To me, the greatest NFL season by a quarterback is Dan’s season in ’84…5,000 yards, 48 touchdowns in that era.” [33:25]
Quote (Harrison): “Aaron Rodgers’ mechanics, his footwork–that’s not teaching…You cannot teach that.” [32:47]
Snippets Throughout
Stories of brutal practices, old-school discipline, the importance of routine and self-motivation over talent alone.
Unc describes his college schedule and the value of “rest, routine, and being intentional” about maximizing natural gifts.
Segment: [63:53-66:32]
James Harrison on legendary QB preparation:
“When they came to the line…no matter how much disguising you did, they knew what the hell you doing…It’s about processing information and knowing where to go with it very fast.” [04:18]
Chad Johnson’s critique on today’s practice standards:
“You practice so you couldn’t get it wrong.” [11:23]
Unc on player ego:
“Are we saying Beyoncé and Taylor Swift ain’t got no ego? ...The greater the person, the bigger the ego.” [41:05]
Sharpe on Tyreek Hill’s dynamic:
“Tyreek’s production is tied to a guy that’s injury-prone…It’s like relying on someone that’s unreliable to get you to work.” [48:23]
Harrison on NFL double standards:
“It’s right there in your face…The way they treat certain quarterbacks, depending on who it is. They give them grace all the time.” [55:28]
Sharpe on Archie Manning’s future:
“His family is not in dire need of anything…A lot of times, these families—mom in the projects, grandma over here. No food…But the Mannings, they're strategic.” [60:02]
In this Nightcap, Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ocho” Johnson use today’s headlines—Brady’s QB comments, Tyreek Hill’s captaincy, and media treatment of young prospects—to draw bigger lessons about leadership, accountability, and how greatness is built. With plenty of first-hand stories, sharp analysis, and classic banter, the episode is a must-listen for fans who want to get behind the box score and into the soul of football culture.