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Bowen Yang
The WBC Strip Bud Crawford for not paying sanctioning bodies.
He won the title. Is she up?
Okay, hold on. We know what happened, Bud. It goes off on the wbc. Crawford says all the sanctioning bodies accepted what he paid them and he's not paying $300,000 to in a sanctioning fee to the WBC. The WBC says he owes. According to the WBC, Crawford allegedly earned $50 million for that fight. Appreciating the magnitude of the event, the WBC modified his rule to limit the box's bout fee to 0.6% sanctioning fee instead of the typical 3% the WBC rules regulations required. The WBC was going to allocate 75% of the Crawford boxing bout to the Jose Suleiman Boxers fund, which goes to go to fighters that, you know, that's down in their luckness. You know, what case may be. Yeah. With the WBC had no choice but to act considering champion Crawford had received multiple. Received ample notifications and multiple opportunities to address and resolve the situation. The WBC said Now on the line between Christian Mibili. Oh, yeah, that's the one we saw. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Johnson
He knocked out that, he just knocked out somebody recently. I can't, I can't remember.
Bowen Yang
No, he, the dude. Remember he was fighting. They were throwing them haymakers. Yeah. And it was a draw. He had a draw the last fight. That was the one before Bud. The black dude, the African dude.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I think I know what you're talking about.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. And Hamas Sharice in a mandatory bout.
Joe Johnson
Damn, man. But I, I, and, and Bud responded too. Bud responded. He talked about, he talked about all the, all the other title title holders, you know, wbo.
Bowen Yang
They accepted what he gave them.
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Joe Johnson
He said every, everybody accepted the same amount of money after those fights. And for some reason, regardless of what was written, regardless of what you just read, they wanted, they wanted more for him to be able to attain and hold on to the WBC belt. And he was like, nah, I'm not paying more. And then they want an apology of some sort. And I mean, it's a mess. But I mean.
I understand it. I can see it from Crawford's standpoint in a sense, obviously something is wrong with it and he doesn't see fit. And for him to go off the way he did, which is uncharacteristic of him. A very uncharacteristic for him. So, I mean, I, obviously, I, I have no choice but to be on his side because this is something that he wouldn't do.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
You gotta pay. You gotta pay the box.
Joe Johnson
No, you gotta pay. Them bills cost, Joe.
Bowen Yang
I ain't paying for no trophy.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, Joe, you got to pay. You got to pay. You got to pay a fee to keep.
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on, hold on. So. Because I seen when Bud won, he went back and gave. Dude, he went back and gave.
Bowen Yang
He gave up. Because those new ones, yeah, they make.
Joe Johnson
New belts, but when they make the.
Chad Ochocinco
New belts, pay for all them new belts.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, you got to pay for the bills, boy. Yeah. Yeah. When you see fighters coming to the ring, you got to pay a sanctioning fee for them belts, Joe, to keep.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
And if you don't pay the fee, then they take them. They should take them from you.
Bowen Yang
You don't fight a mandatory, they'll take the belt from you. If you don't pay the sanctioning fee, they'll take them from you.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, that's, that's crazy. I mean, listen, that's the way the game has always been. That way. The game has always been that way.
Bowen Yang
But he just always been funny style.
To be honest with you.
Joe Johnson
Hey, it's funny. You know, the one putting their life on the line and getting in there, getting in the ring, the one put. Going into camp, doing the work three months out the year. And I, I, I, listen, it's, it's, it's boxing. It's the way it's always been. I just, I guess he just didn't see fit to pay the amount that they wanted when everyone else agreed to the amount he paid for the other, the other fees he's paid, he just, he just wasn't willing to do. So.
Bowen Yang
Tough. Man, look, Bud said, man, look here, I ain't giving y' all no, no more money. I'm cool. Right? And, hey, and another thing, Canelo, you want a rematch?
Joe Johnson
I want 100. I want 100 million.
Bowen Yang
I will be the A side this time around.
Joe Johnson
Listen, he's the A side, Joe. He's the A side from now on. Yeah, I mean, that, that's.
Bowen Yang
But I ain't fighting one more time with you. I mean, because, because where can he make money? I mean, at that point in time, you make 100 million, it's hard to go back down to make 10. 2.
Joe Johnson
2 more. 2 more. Because the fact he, he, he can I say, I mean, honestly, I'm not sure who's out there for him to fight now. Maybe a rematch with Canelo and I think a fight that everyone wants to see and the fact that he gets to command how much he makes, I say maybe boots after boots. Hey, listen, early 2026, when Boots beat Virgil Ortiz, that people think can actually hang with that. Styles win fights, Joe. You know Styles win fights. Virgil Ortiz is a phenomenal boxer. He's a phenomenal fighter. But Bo style nullifies and everything becomes null. And Boyd, once he gets in that ring with Boots and I can't wait, I can't wait till that contract gets done.
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on.
Joe Johnson
People can actually see you think you.
Chad Ochocinco
Saying Boo's ready for Crawford?
Joe Johnson
No, I, I said, I said there's something that everyone wants to see that, that's all I said, I said something.
Bowen Yang
I don't think, I don't think Booth Crawford can command the payday that he would get. The only fight that other than Canelo would probably be Benavidez.
Joe Johnson
No, you trying to get the man killed.
Bowen Yang
I'm just saying, what's going to command the $100 million purse? Command no $100 million purse.
Joe Johnson
Oo, oh, wait a minute, hold on, hold on. If, if once, let's, let's say, let's say if he does fight Canelo again, right.
Bowen Yang
Yes.
Joe Johnson
In that rematch. And he wins a rematch, which he will do because there's nothing Canelo can do.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
That can improve that much better in that short amount of time where you would beat Bud Crawford. There's nothing you can do. There's nothing you can do. So I'm just saying with that being, with that being said, he is able to command that kind of money. Turkey Ali has made boxing great again. Turkey Ali would want to see that fight. He would want to see a Bud in a goddamn Boots fight. And if Bud says I want 100 million to. Because it's almost like is high risk, low reward, but Turkey will make sure the purse will be there. Where you know what, you can take that risk now because here's the money for it.
Bowen Yang
I don't. Out of me personally, I don't think, I don't think Turkey would put up a hundred million dollar purse to see Boots and Bud. But I do think he put up $100 million purse for Benavidez. Bud, yeah, that's a big ass fight. But Benavidez walks around. No telling what Benavidez walks around as. But I'm saying, now would I take that fight? Look, I don't think at this point in time bud, to really have anything else proof it really doesn't. I'll take this rematch with Canelo, get my 100 million and I'm out. Because if you can't he made 150 million the last two fights plus what he made against Spence. Probably made 1012 against that fight. If he can't live off that, let's just say hey, he can't live off that.
Joe Johnson
Oo hey, you know, I if, if I'm I I don't know. Okay, but you, you probably right. I I would love to see it. I would love to see Alicia Protect.
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Bowen Yang
Hey, we got a very special guest joining us, Alicia Baumgartner. The super featherweight championship. Where are the belts at? We want to see the belts.
Alicia Baumgartner
What about you want to see the belts? Will, listen, I got one.
Bowen Yang
I got one sanctioning body. Take them back when you don't pay the sanctioning fee.
Alicia Baumgartner
Listen, I am. I am the belt. Let's just get that straight. And one for two for two. It's Alicia, y'.
Joe Johnson
All.
Bowen Yang
Alicia.
Alicia Baumgartner
Okay, Not Alicia, please. Thank you.
Bowen Yang
Alicia.
Alicia Baumgartner
Yes.
Joe Johnson
I have a question.
Alicia Baumgartner
What's your question?
Joe Johnson
Before we even start this question for you, obviously, with your. With your knowledge and knowing boxing, and right now, I see the way boxing is going right now. Boxing is now great again. What do you think at some point in time, before Crawford hangs the gloves up, a fight between Crawford and Boots.
As in Duke, Just. Just in General, what do you think? Would that not be a great fight?
Alicia Baumgartner
I think that would be a great fight. I think you have two great athletes and you know, anything with someone who has an athletic ability, we can see really who's going to have a better game plan when it comes to boxing. Right. So I like that fight.
Joe Johnson
See, I told you Unk.
Bowen Yang
But here's the thing. Do you believe they put up the. Because for me, I told Ocho I think the big look fight Canelo again, try to get $100 million. But for another hundred million dollar fight it's going to have to be someone that they really feel could that Crawford could lose. That's why Turkey put up the hundred million dollars to fight Canelo. And that would be Benavidez.
Joe Johnson
No.
Telling Benavidez too goddamn big man.
Bowen Yang
They said that about Canelo.
Alicia Baumgartner
Yeah, I mean it's different, but it is a little different. I, I do have to agree with that. It is slightly different with Benavides and the Canelo just in, in in regards to skill and, and when we think about selling a fight.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Alicia Baumgartner
So.
That'S just.
Bowen Yang
You recently defended your unified, your unified super featherweight titles against Jennifer Miranda in July 25th and you described that performance as a B plus. Now you got Layla, a Buddha in to execute better. So what, what didn't you like about the fight that you previously had?
Alicia Baumgartner
What I didn't like about it is that I had, I hold a very high standard for myself as an athlete, as a fighter and you know, I've had a, I had long layoff up until that point. And so I know what I require of self. And again, a B is not bad, but I know what I'm better at doing. So it's always a learning lesson and it's always an opportunity to go back and do what I do best. And that's to study, that's to be better, that's to be sharper and stronger and whatever adjustments I need to make come December 19th.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, right. You know what's funny is I watched the last fight and the fact is you gave it, you gave yourself a B plus. Is is funny because when I the eye test, for me actually watching you dominate that fight, whether it be inside the pocket, fighting, fighting from distance, you control the goddamn fight. So I'm curious, how do you improve on what I just saw when you fought last time when it damn near looked perfect to me.
Alicia Baumgartner
Oh, listen there, there's so much more improvement and it's just really the, you know, styles make fights. We know that and Miranda Was a little awkward style. Right. So I'm having to make adjustments as I go. And I just know when you can be aggressive but strategic and how you, how you move. If you can double up on the jab but more on the feints, there's. So there's just a bigger. And guess what? I'm fighting three minutes this next go around, so I have an extra minute really digging that bag. Like, I'm not coming with no small bag, y'.
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Alicia Baumgartner
I'm coming with a Birkin double bag. Like, the skills is deep. Okay.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. So you got. It's gonna be. So you probably. You mentioned that that's where I was going next. You're like fighting under the men's rule where you got 12 three minute rounds. Correct?
Alicia Baumgartner
Correct. Yes. So 12 rounds, three minutes. This is a standard for men's boxing. They asked me, alicia, do you want to do it? I said, bet. Let's do it. I'm all for accepting a challenge. And again, the fact that I have an extra minute to really dig in my bag of tools. Y' all, listen, y' all gonna see. Y' all gonna be glued to the tv.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. And you know what? The fact that you're doing three minutes now, obviously, 12 rounds, does that change the way you prepare as far as camp is concerned? Do you train a different way now?
Alicia Baumgartner
Yeah, listen, the. The training has always been.
Aggressive, but for this one, it's. It's more strategic. Right. And I've been in camp, y', all for 12 weeks. We know that the fight had got postponed. So I've been in the gym, so there's nothing but work after work and always working on the next thing, and I'm ready.
Joe Johnson
Okay, that's funny. I've got one more question. How do you. How do you. What's. What's the word I'm looking for? How do you. You train to a point where you don't burn yourself out, where you don't over train to make sure that when you do fight, you're still fresh, you sharp, and you.
Bowen Yang
And you.
Joe Johnson
You polish without over training while you're in camp and doing too much.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Alicia Baumgartner
I think it's important to know who you are as a fighter. Mentally, it could be a little draining. So if I go in the gym, I say, derek, you know, I'm having a little mental day because, you know, we've been doing the same thing. Okay. We may do some film study. We may just work on the bag. We may just do mitts. And I think it's important to Find that balance, because you're going to need that come fight week and come the night of the fight. So I definitely pay attention to how I'm feeling physically. I'm in there all day, every day, but it's just more the mental aspect for me.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Alicia, your conditioning is, is pretty elite, right? What's, what's a part of your training or nutrition that, that you enjoy doing that? People will probably be shocked to know.
Alicia Baumgartner
Y' all gotta know, I, I stay in the gym because I like to stay in the gym, so that's one thing. Like, I like to stay fit. Fitness is what I do. And I have a chef for this camp, so I'm always making sure that I'm eating the right foods. You know, we, it's performance based, y'.
Bowen Yang
All.
Alicia Baumgartner
So if I get the better advantage on how I eat, the water I'm drinking every day and what I'm putting into my body, I want to have the best performance. So I'm making sure that, you know, everything is aligning and I'm staying, I'm staying. It's a lifestyle.
Bowen Yang
I do this, like, absolutely, because you said. Go ahead, Joe, go ahead, finish up your question.
Chad Ochocinco
Now, like, even on days, even when, you know you don't have a fight coming up in the next six to eight months, you know what I mean? Is your regimen still pretty strict? Do you still train pretty hard? Like, what's the mindset with that?
Alicia Baumgartner
Yeah, for me, it's always still be in the gym is to stay active. Y' all know, you know, as athletes, this is what we've done our whole lives. So I, I can't sit still, you know, and so I always make sure I'm in shape. I'm always doing something. If that's not me working out, it's working somebody out. But I'm always staying ready.
Bowen Yang
Like, just physically, this is, I think this is one of the things that really helped Floyd Mayweather, because Floyd was probably five to seven pounds away from his fighting weight. So you're not getting too far away from your actual fighting weight so you don't have to kill yourself in those 8, 10, 12 weeks that you're in to try to make. You're not trying to cut 30, 40 pounds.
Alicia Baumgartner
Not at all.
Bowen Yang
You're only trying to cut, what, 10, 12 pounds?
Alicia Baumgartner
Listen, listen, y'.
Bowen Yang
All.
Alicia Baumgartner
I'm fasting for a day and dropping two pounds and dropping two pounds. For real. I, I stay, I stay within 10 pounds. I'm 140 right now. If I eat a good meal 143. Back down to 140. So honestly, it's. I don't kill myself. I enjoy fight week. I'm smiling, I get to eat. And it's. It's a joyful weight cut, to say the least.
Chad Ochocinco
Right?
Joe Johnson
You know, I have a question about this week. The fight, the fight, Some of the fights coming up this week. Well, what do you. What do you think? And who do you have in. In the Pitbull Lamont Roach fight?
Alicia Baumgartner
I love that fight. I like that fight because of one. They're. They're both. We know Pitbull's aggressive, he coming forward, but he's been neutralized already. So I want to see how disciplined can lamont be for 12 rounds straight to use his jab, to use his skill. I think he has better skill than Pitbull. So if he can utilize his jab, his movements like we saw with him and Javante and how Pimple has already.
Kind of exposed himself. Yeah, I think we. We see. We see a winner, and that's Lamont. But again, credit to Pitbull because he don't stop. So, you know, he. He's hungry just as much. You know, fighters who. Who get a loss, they come back even hungrier. So, again, I'm looking forward to that fight.
Bowen Yang
You have to describe yourself as both a beast, a beast in the ring, and a beauty outside the ring. I'm looking at your. You aesthetically. I'm like, why. Why did you decide to fight? What. What made you push you in this of all? Maybe basketball, maybe tennis, maybe track and field, where you can be glamorized. I'm like boxing. Listen to the face.
Alicia Baumgartner
I like it.
It's so funny to. To be a beauty and a beast is. Is to be a warrior, to. To fight for everything that I've been fighting for as a. As a young girl, and to be a woman, to walk with favor and presence and purpose. And it's so important that you can find this balance, this. It's a duality. Right? And the best part, I don't. I don't have to choose y'.
Matt Rogers
All.
Alicia Baumgartner
I embody both. And so if. When I'm hitting you like a welterweight and dropping you and doing what I gotta do.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Alicia Baumgartner
And I'm stepping outside of the ring and I'm a model. I put, you know, do my hair, my makeup, put a dress on the heels. Listen, it's. It's a duality, and I love to embody both, and I love that I can be a fighter and fight for the things that I love and to really showcase what it is to be that beauty and that beast.
Joe Johnson
You know, when you talk about being that beauty and that beast and fighting for the things you love, something that you've done since you were young, obviously, I'm sure maybe as a child growing up, you always wanted to be a fighter or a boxer. How long do you see yourself doing this?
Alicia Baumgartner
Listen, baby, it's. It's embedded, okay? For one and. And two, I see myself doing until. Till I can't no more. It's. It's instilled. It's been instilled. And this is a gift that the Lord has blessed me with. So it's my duty to make sure that I give it my all in the time. To be an active athlete and to be an active woman fighter, to be on the biggest stage come December 19th is. Is a dream, and it's really showcasing how two worlds can coexist and how.
Men and women, it's. No, it's not a comparison. It's a standard to be. To have greatness, to be great. And.
Chad Ochocinco
What. What advice would you give young girls that you wish someone had given you when you was younger? What advice would you give young ladies?
Alicia Baumgartner
Yeah, I think it's important to. To give a young woman advice. To know what it is to stand in power, what it is to trust your power, what it is to be still and to follow through when things get hard, when things don't seem to go your way. I think it's important to. To really mentor the same way I was poured into. Into somebody else, because it really goes a long way. Life is hard, y'. All. And. And also to be a woman in. In a space that you may not even know who you are. Identity. People have an identity issues. You. You know, you need to know who you are. So to really encourage those to know who they are, to know themselves, to. To be able to love them. Like, loving yourself goes a long way.
Bowen Yang
Knowing who you are, for sure you're a fighter. You mentioned your model. Outside of that, is there anything. Do you want to do? Media? Is there anything that you do outside of those two things or anything that you would like to do outside of those two things?
Alicia Baumgartner
Listen, the. The road is open for whatever is. Is ahead. I love media. I love talking. I think it's important to. To be in different spaces. Y' all know we got one of the greatest games tomorrow. The Cowboys versus the Lions.
Bowen Yang
Okay, You're a Cowboys or a Lions fan?
Alicia Baumgartner
Listen, I gotta give it to you like this. Okay, The Eagles, I love that they have the champion mindset and they did that. Showed that. But also the Cowboys done showed up in these last two games. So I'm like, well, what are we doing? What are we doing? Where's the mentality?
Bowen Yang
Are you a Cowboys fan? Yes or no? Because I'm about to hit this power button.
Alicia Baumgartner
Yes, I'm a Cowboys fan. I'm in Dallas, y'.
Joe Johnson
All.
Bowen Yang
Of course.
Alicia Baumgartner
I'm a fan. I'm a. I'm a fan of the winners team. Hello. I'm a fan. I'm a fan when people win, baby.
Joe Johnson
Like, I know AB you can't do that. You. Who are you a fan of before they were winning? Like, who is your. Who is your team?
Alicia Baumgartner
Listen, I was. I still am a Lions fan. When I lived in Detroit. I seen the Lions go from here to here to be the underdog to being a top dog and really showing out every game. I'm like, yo, that's the Lions. That's that Detroit hunger that they got, right? And then, you know, I left Detroit, came to Dallas and, you know, the. The atmosphere being in Dallas and what the Cowboys represent, I think it still shows just the. The grit that they still want to be that team like they were years ago, right?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. So, yeah.
You can't.
Joe Johnson
You can't switch allegiance like that just because you relocated somewhere else now.
Alicia Baumgartner
I know that. Listen, everybody's like, you need to pick a side. I say, I understand that, but you know, I picked the win the winner side. You know, I'm in all the world.
Bowen Yang
That ain't no picking over. That's front running.
Joe Johnson
That's not fair.
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Bowen Yang
They don't look. No, no, no.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Joe, Joe.
Matt Rogers
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I'm not hating. I'm just saying, like, she said what she said.
Bowen Yang
Ocho, what you want her to do? That's what you're going for. That's what. That's her thing. What you want. So let me ask you, Alicia, where are you originally from?
Alicia Baumgartner
I'm from Fremont, Ohio.
Bowen Yang
Okay.
Alicia Baumgartner
Which is.
Bowen Yang
So you should be a Browns or a Bengals fan.
Alicia Baumgartner
I'm definitely. Listen, I'm definitely a Michigan fan. Charles Woodson's from my hometown. So it kind of falls into. It kind of falls into that. I know I'm all over the place, but that's okay, because I can't be okay.
Chad Ochocinco
You are right.
Alicia Baumgartner
I can't be.
Bowen Yang
I come from.
Alicia Baumgartner
Listen, y'.
Bowen Yang
All.
Alicia Baumgartner
I come from A small country town in Ohio. And so being in a city like Michigan, you know, I always been a Michigan fan. So, you know, I'm like, you know, I like this, you know, Ohio State. I mean, shout out to Dan. They just won. I get that.
Bowen Yang
But, you know, see that type, you know what, she gonna show up wanting one team to win, the other team score first. Yeah, I'm for that team right there. Yeah, let's go.
Alicia Baumgartner
Nah, nah, nah. I'm gonna stick to my side. I'm gonna stick to my side.
Joe Johnson
Okay, you know what? To go back to boxing, I have one more.
Alicia Baumgartner
You.
Joe Johnson
I obviously, ab. You know how much I love boxing. Obviously. That's why I keep asking these goddamn questions. And I don't mean to put that. I don't mean to put the carriage before the horse, but December 19th, I already know what it's going to look like. I already know what you're going to do. I understand your style. I've seen the young lady that you're fighting. I don't mean to put the goddamn character for the horse, but if you were to want to fight someone else, if you were to. To have a name that you want to see after this victory, because I'm telling you what's going to happen December 19th. Is there anybody out there that you want to fight after this one?
Alicia Baumgartner
I would love to fight Katie Taylor.
Joe Johnson
Oh, oh, okay.
Alicia Baumgartner
I would love to fight Katie Taylor. Katie Taylor is a pedigree of a fighter. No, let me not say that of a boxer. And because I have skills like a boxer, you will see a. A box that's so high class and so high level that you will appreciate.
Chad Ochocinco
You.
Alicia Baumgartner
You would think. You wouldn't even say two women are fighting. You would just enjoy this. Just the boxing aspect, right? And I think, you know, Katie has done a lot for the sport, has changed the game, and I would love a fight with her.
Bowen Yang
Those fights with Seriano was unbelievable. I know they were. Hey, they. They went down to the wire. I thought. I thought the first fight, I thought she had it out of there, but, hey, Taylor dug deep. Yeah, she dug deep.
Alicia Baumgartner
He dug deep. And I respect.
Bowen Yang
A couple of more boxing questions. You saw where the WBC stripped Bud of the title because he wouldn't pay the sanctioning fees. You got stripped of your title because, you know, they. They like that. Nah, the women fighting, you know, 12, you know, 12 rounds at three minutes each. Now, we're not a part of that. So. So are you okay with this?
Alicia Baumgartner
You know, like. Like anything. We make the Belt the belt. Don't make us come on now. And it's important that, you know, we worked very hard to get to a space where we can say, we're undisputed and we are world champion. But it does not, it will not take away from the fact that you can't say I did that. And again, you know, boxing is a freelance sport, y'.
Bowen Yang
All.
Alicia Baumgartner
Boxing is a wild, wild west. Still is. And so it's just one of those things, you gotta make sure that you are going to be straight with yourself because nobody else is going to take care of you like you going to take care of yourself. So that's what that looks like. And, you know, I had the opportunity to keep my belt, but I said, you know what? No, I'm gonna, I'm gonna accept this challenge. I'm gonna do this 12 rounds, three minutes, and make history. And that's exactly what I'm doing.
Joe Johnson
I like it.
Bowen Yang
I like the Jake Paul, Anthony Joshua. If this is, if, if, if, if this is on the up and up, do you give Jake Paul a realistic chance? Anthony Joshi is a super heavyweight. He won the gold medal. We know he got down. He got dynamite in that right hand. He's a ginormous of 642-45-250. I think his, I think his promoter said that he's like 265, so he's gonna have to shed some weight right now. Tell us what you think. Give us the, Give us the, the fighters approach. What are you thinking about this fight?
Alicia Baumgartner
Yeah. So listen, my eye test, saying a lot of things, all right? And for real, you know, listen, this is so cliche to say, but any, any fighter has a chance, right? We've seen Jake Paul knock people out and we've seen Anthony Joshua knock people out. They both have a punching, a punching chance, right? Who is gonna, who's going to have a better game plan? That's the question, right? You have a height difference, you have a weight difference. But again, I have to give credit where credit's due. Jake has been able to train with some quality trainers from Detroit that I know, and he's been able to progress in a way that a lot of people haven, that people still don't believe in. So this is an opportunity for Jake to really showcase some real skill and a real game plan to be Anthony Joshua. But then on the other hand, I respect Anthony Joshua, who is also a heavyweight champion, who is also saying, you know what? You really playing it crazy. I'm about to show you what real boxing is. About, right? Because there's still this. Is it real, is it not? It's real.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Bowen Yang
We saw Jake Paul knock out people that weren't boxers. The one boxer that he fought, he did not beat, which was Tyson Fury's Tommy Fury. Now, this is a real professional prize fighting boxer, a heavyweight champion.
This is different than knocking out people that came from the NBA or came from MMA or things of that nature. This is an actual prize fighter that still. That still fights actively.
Alicia Baumgartner
This is true. But, you know, one thing about the mind, when you believe in yourself and you see no other way but win, that's. That's. That's the mentality that Jake has. And I think he's just shown that every time he stepped in the ring, regardless of who it is, I'm here, I did this. I'm about to show y' all again. And I, and I like, you know, the mentality matters. What you. You have to know you're gonna go in there, win, even if it's delusion. I don't know.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah. You know, and one last boxing question. My last question, and it's more of a statement and, and a question for you, obviously, Uncle Joe. I'm letting y' all know ahead of time. Alicia, there's another. A really good fight. Two of the greatest fighters of all time that, that are going to be fighting soon. 3 minute 12 rounds. Andre Ward. Andre Ward is coming back out of retirement. He's gonna fight me sometime in 2026.
Alicia Baumgartner
Okay.
Joe Johnson
With your expertise and you knowing how much I love and how long I've been training, what round you think I'm gonna knock Andre Ward ass out next year?
Bowen Yang
Keep it 100.
Alicia Baumgartner
Y' all going 12 rounds?
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Hell yeah.
Alicia Baumgartner
Okay.
Chad Ochocinco
Keep it 100.
Bowen Yang
Hopefully four.
Joe Johnson
Oh, so you want, you want me to put him out in four?
Bowen Yang
Yeah, I don't want you to go. I don't want you getting that deep water. Yeah, you know, I can swim on after round seven. Tell him, Alicia. After that round seven, you start getting into deep waters.
Alicia Baumgartner
Listen, we're gonna have to see how them legs are. I will say this, though, Ocho. You got a great stance, though.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Alicia Baumgartner
You got the fundamentals. I'm not gonna take that away. So I think when you can learn to. To, you know, use that back leg a little more, push off that thing, you know, the power, you. You may have a. A puncher's chance.
Joe Johnson
Oh, that's me, that's me, that's me, that's me, that's me.
Alicia Baumgartner
For real? For real. Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Well, good luck on the night, team. Alicia, thank you for joining us. We really appreciate you taking time out to stop by nightcap. I'm sure our chap chat really appreciate you stopping by. Best of luck. And when you win the. When you. I don't know if she got a belt. If she got a belt, take that belt, come back and show it to us because we ain't seen no belts tonight.
Alicia Baumgartner
Listen, I got all the belts, sir. Yeah, like I said, I got all the belts. I am the belt. But yes, you will see.
Bowen Yang
Thank you very much. I appreciate your time. Good luck and we'll see you down the road.
Alicia Baumgartner
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Alicia Baumgartner joining us tonight. She's fighting on the 19th. Make sure you check that your pet.
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Bowen Yang
Hey.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey Joe, what's up?
Joe Johnson
Hey, I'm gonna. I'm finna beat the shit out of Andre Ward. Boy I hope. Hey Dre, I hope you see this.
Bowen Yang
Drake, you gotta get past Depot first.
Joe Johnson
I love you like a brother, but boy, it's going down, boy.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, boy, you writing a lot of things, Ocho, huh? You writing a lot of checks.
Joe Johnson
It's one thing about my checks, they gonna bounce.
Bowen Yang
I know.
Hey guys, check this out. Odell Beckham tweeted. Presumably, I guess it said us. Boy, you can't say nothing in the world nowadays. That's why I've been in my own lane, my own world and put it the way people love to take ish out of context, to rationalize a statement in their own head that makes sense to them. What a world. Video came out today of Odell selling game worn chrome heart cleats for 50k.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Hey, Young, remember, remember when I, you were telling me the story and I said I, I thought, I, I thought he was giving perspective and context on how difficult it is to, to be able to manage money. I didn't, I didn't really think he was talking about himself.
Bowen Yang
No, but Ocho, if you got Ocho, what's Difficult about managing 60 million liquid?
Joe Johnson
Hold on. Well, what's difficult? The number, the percentage of athletes, NBA, NFL, MLB is damn near 90% now. So I mean it's difficult. That's why I thought, I thought, I thought. Because the first thing when he said it and gave context and perspective on how difficult it is, I thought he was meaning in general, not specifically talking about himself. That's all. But go ahead.
Bowen Yang
I get what he's saying.
Joe Johnson
Yes sir.
Bowen Yang
You're feeling first of all, spending $4 million in, in yearly expenses.
Joe Johnson
Yes sir.
Bowen Yang
Your home, family, home X, Y and Z. Well, first of all, to spend that, you need to make, make at least 10 million, right? Because you, depending on where you are now, if you're in a state that takes 50 now if you're in Las Vegas, you're in Nevada, you in Texas, you in Florida. I think Ohio has no state income tax. I think Arizona is like 2%. So if you're in one of those states, so it's going to take about 10 million to do that, to have that kind of lifestyle right now. Now what happens is, Ocho, is that you still try to main that maintain that lifestyle. Joe, when you're not bringing in 10 million and you're still spending out that money, kind of money going out. That's why they go out. That's why you, you see guys go belly up. Ocho is that you don't change your spending habits, right? It's the same way if you're an athlete, you eat whatever you want, you work out. Now all of a sudden, you're not an athlete, and you still eat whatever you want. Now all of a sudden, DBs look like D lineman. That's what happens with money.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, think about what you just said. Hey, Joe, think about what you just said, right? Think about what Unc just said real quick. Right? Is you. You live in a lifestyle when the money's coming in fast, right? You. You become accustomed to that lifestyle. That lifestyle actually becomes your image, and it becomes an identity.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
So once you stop playing, the transition, to be able to stop and have the discipline, to be able to cut it off, to become a. A minimalist almost, in a sense, it's almost impossible. It's hard because you always want to maintain that lifestyle and that image because what's the first thing everybody that you're trying to goddamn impress don't say, oh, he ain't got it no more.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, he, bro.
Bowen Yang
First time. Ocho, you ain't got a new car, man. Hey, he must be doing bad, right? You know, hey, you should see him with a new whip every. Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, hey, Joe. Hey, Joe.
Bowen Yang
And un.
Joe Johnson
One thing about it, boy, I learned early. I learned early. I did not want to try to keep up with the Joneses. I did not want to keep. Hey, Joe. And I. I. And Joe. I did it when I was making the bulk of my money. Joe. Joe. I came in the NFL already cheap as hell. I didn't care about people making fun of me. I didn't care about certain types of women not wanting to date me because they know. Yeah, he ain't gonna. He ain't paying nothing. He not. You know, you ain't getting nothing.
Bowen Yang
That's.
Joe Johnson
That's okay, because I understand. I understand. Dealing with you is nothing but a liability anyway, Right? You know, I got the table, and the legs you got ain't gonna hold it up.
Chad Ochocinco
Hello. Hello.
Joe Johnson
You know, so you understand that you play the game, Joe. It's all a game. And the better you learn to play the game, the longer you will be able to be without. It's okay. But so many of us, Unc, so many of us are so caught up in looking like we got it. Like, I don't. Everybody want to be rich. Everybody want to look like they like. Like. No, that. That's not reality. Social media has us fooled. It has all of us food.
Bowen Yang
They ain't got me, fool.
They got me fooled. Because I know damn well I Do Okay. And I ain't living like that. No. I ain't got it like that.
Joe Johnson
You know what's scary, Joe? Joe? This. This is a scary part. And this is. This is for men and women when it comes to the people that try to maintain that lifestyle. And, you know, they don't make the kind of money to continue that lifestyle, especially if you don't play sports. If you don't play sports and you and all this flashy, that means you're willing to do anything, anything to maintain that image. Well, that in itself is dangerous, Joe.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. If you leave the sport and you get you a gig and you making money like Stephen A. You making money like Strahan. You making money like Tony Romo. You making money like Tom Brady. Yeah. Take off.
Joe Johnson
Wait, hold on, hold on. Now. What you're not gonna do is. I ain't gonna me. I don't mean to put the people in our business, but if you're making money like Uncle Nocho.
Girl, you. Hey, listen. Hey, boy.
Bowen Yang
Hey. Okay. I got money like that, huh? Don't set everybody up. Everybody good. Mom good, Sister good, Everybody good.
Joe Johnson
Listen, listen.
I'm going say this one more time. I guess I see them numbers at the end of each month. Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Just.
Joe Johnson
Just add us to that goddamn equation. I'mma tell you what my grandma always told me.
Alicia Baumgartner
Huh?
Joe Johnson
Speaking.
Bowen Yang
Hey.
Joe Johnson
Speaking into existence.
Bowen Yang
Hello.
Joe Johnson
Huh?
Bowen Yang
We do okay.
Joe Johnson
Hey, when you say okay, add three more wise to it. Okay.
Bowen Yang
I saw. I saw a guy today. I saw. I read a quote. Yes, sir. The guy was. He was basically saying. He says, as you become more famous and you become more well off, relationships become more transactional.
Understand that? Understand that. I'm learning that.
Joe Johnson
Do me a favor. Do me a favor, just in case the chat didn't hit you, because I got one for you. Say it one more time. Say it. Make sure the chat.
Bowen Yang
The more famous you become and the more well off you become, the relationships become more transactional. Y' all know what transactional is?
Chad Ochocinco
Yes, I agree.
Bowen Yang
I agree.
Joe Johnson
Hey, let me. Let me get. Let me get. Let me dive a little deeper for you real quick, Uncle Joe. Even if you're not wealthy, even if you're not making millions, even you're making hundred, thousands, or even if you're a thousandaire, you know. You know, you get paid every two weeks. The individual that you're dealing with is still dealing with you based on the ability for you to provide and give them stability in a sense of peace. Always. Always. So it still aligns those. Those same. That Same quote and analogy that UNC used. It still aligns regardless of how much you make based on your partner. Ask your partner and tell her to be truthful if you lost the opportunity to provide, if she'll still be there. Ask your partner if you being able to make things convenient and the opportunity dealing with you didn't presented, this didn't present itself in, in a good manner if she would still be there and tell her to be honest with you.
And you know, a lot of women will say, oh, I don't deal with nobody for no money. It ain't, it ain't about that. Like, come on now, let's stop.
Bowen Yang
Hey.
Joe Johnson
And the funny thing about it is you're always paying for who you're dealing with. And the only thing, this is the only thing. Chad, I want you to do me a small favor.
Go to my Twitter and read my bio. Now there's a joke at the beginning, but I tell the truth towards the end. And I'm going to just leave that. Just go to my Twitter and read my bio and the truth is sitting right there. No matter what they try to tell you. That's what it all comes down to, no matter what they say.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, but I just think the thing is, look, 100 million dollar contract, I think everybody understands 100 million. Nobody's getting all hundred million of that. You've got to pay, you got to pay federal income tax. I don't give a damn what state you live in, you've got to pay federal income tax and you have something called a jock tax. If you're a professional athlete and you go to certain states, you got to pay for the money that you earn there. If you go to certain states and you work, you have to pay money that you earn in that state. So I think everybody is, nobody is under the assumption anymore that when they see a hundred million, somebody actually got a hundred million. But to get 60 to get, basically, if you, like I said, you live in a tax free state and you only got to pay 30. 30. Let's just say on the high end, you're paying 37 federal income tax. That means of a million dollars, you get 637, you get 630,000 thousand. So if you bring home, if you got 60 million liquid, theoretically, ocho, you put, you put that in a fund, you put that in a fund, you're gonna get 5 to 8%. There'll be some years you get 10, 12%.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
So even if you're just getting 5% on 60 million, that's $3 million a year, man. If you can't live off $3 million a year, you got issues.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Like, not like a Jay Z is somebody that got full time security. They got all these chefs and they got all these people. Obviously it requires more than that. But I'm saying for the average person. Yeah, like myself, Joe. You.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
I mean, man, if you can't live.
Joe Johnson
Whoa, whoa, whoa, Listen, I'm not average. I'm extraordinary. Now, what I'm saying, I'm cheap as hell. No, I'm just.
Bowen Yang
But I'm saying people like us, because the average person is not gonna be in a situation to make that kind of money.
Joe Johnson
Right.
Bowen Yang
So I'm not talking about. I'm talking about. Look, if you got, if you make. If you make a million dollars a year.
Unless you got extraordinary expenses that you should be good.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Bowen Yang
Get you a nice little. Get you a nice little house payment, say, you know, five. Somewhere between five and 7,500amonth.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Get you a nice car, you and your wife get a nice car. She got one, you got one kid. Because probably, if you make that kind of money, Ocho, it's hard. You're gonna probably be sending your kids to private school. It just is. It just is what it is. There are very few people that make a million dollars a year and the kids go to public school. I'm just. I'm just being honest with you. Now. I know everybody say I send my kid. It's easy for you to say that when you're not in that situation, but most people that make that kind of money, their kids go to private school.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
And what we were trying to do, we didn't say it was. We were just trying to say how people go belly up. Yeah. Because when you have kids, multiple kids, and you live in certain states and you pay 5, 10, 15, $20,000 per child, you got three kids. If you got. If you paying that kind of money for the kids, guess what else you paying for Private school? Private schools cost you somewhere between 10 and 30, 000 a year. So now compound that.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
So you paying a hundred thousand a year?
Joe Johnson
Oh, a hundred thou.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
No, you paying a hundred thousand. Yeah. So if you paid 20, 20, 20, that's 60,000amonth times 18 years. Hey, plus another. Plus, let's just say, oh, children, you got three kids and they go to private school, and that's another 20,000. So that's another 60,000 a year times 18. Well, they're not gonna stay the same because private schools Go up every year. So it might start out at 20. And by the time they get to be seniors, that's probably 30, 35. So we're just trying to explain to people how it happens. Is that that's why they say, hey, get you one? If I could do it over again, I'd have all my kids from one. I'd get married, save myself a lot of money. A lot of attorney fees also.
Joe Johnson
See, See, that's right. See, that's why I'm thankful. Hey, Joe, sometimes they gotta get up. See, that's what I'm gonna do. Just this conversation in general. I'm. I'm gonna get on my knees after the show and I'm gonna thank God. I'm gonna thank God. Cause Unc just ran off them goddamn numbers, right? And that's just. And you think, Joe, I got eight, Joe. I got eight, Joe. And I ain't listening. Hey, hold on. Listen to me this. Let me tell you what, Joe. Let me tell you what. I'm grateful though, Joe. Unc just ran off them numbers, right? Boy, I ain't never seen it. Never had to do nothing like that, Joe. You know, no private school.
Chad Ochocinco
None of your kids went to private schools.
Bowen Yang
None of that.
Joe Johnson
Nah, nah, nah, nah, Joe, Joe, My kids needed.
Bowen Yang
It's a different time now though, Ocho.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. My kids need a character, different dad. Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Even.
Bowen Yang
Even, even, even now, Ocho, what you was paying, you'd probably have to double that even. Just because the cost of living is higher. You're talking about. You're talking about 15, 18, 20 years ago. So you know what the cost is right now.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
So obviously the cost of living is going up. So is the cost of raising a child has gone.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, Joe.
Bowen Yang
Hey.
Joe Johnson
Some of them numbers Unc was ripping off too, you know, them people, them the type of people, you know, having kids by certain people, it ain't really about the child in the first place.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. That's what.
Joe Johnson
Come on now. Come on now. Yeah. Can you add. Can you imagine having to pay for a child 50,000amonth? A hundred thousand a month.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Two years old. What the hell what we doing, huh?
Chad Ochocinco
Boy, the fact that they, that they grant that to some people.
Bowen Yang
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Joe Johnson
Because it's based off his.
Chad Ochocinco
It's mind boggling. I'm like, man, how. How somebody need 30, 40, 50k a month for a child, bro?
Bowen Yang
I know a guy that was paying in the early 2000s, was playing 14, 000amonth.
Chad Ochocinco
I know.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
I know a few cats who paying more than that.
Bowen Yang
000Amonth.
Chad Ochocinco
I know, dude. Playing 17, 000amonth. 22, 000amonth. I'm like, man.
Bowen Yang
168, 000 a year is.
Chad Ochocinco
Is where you file it too, though.
Bowen Yang
You know where they had them kids at. Now there are some states that the mat is capped. You could only get X amount. You might only get 3, 500. You only get 5,000.
Alicia Baumgartner
Right.
Bowen Yang
And then some states, they base it on how much the father makes.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
But I'm saying.
Bowen Yang
And they make you responsible for the private tuition because they say if the child. The child should be afforded a life, that if the child was with you, that the child wouldn't enjoy without you.
Joe Johnson
Absolutely.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. Now I ain't telling what somebody told me. I'm telling you. Now. See, y' all can talk about a whole lot. I don't know what you're talking about.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Bull jive.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm with you when you're right.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey. But that's a.
I'm glad. I'm glad. Boy, those I had kids from. Boy, they weren't like that, man. Yeah, Joe. I'm. Joe. I'm getting on my knee because I just, just, just. It make me cringe hearing the numbers.
Bowen Yang
And then.
Joe Johnson
And also I'm. I'm present, Joe.
Chad Ochocinco
And that's my thing. Uncle Ocho. It's like these numbers. I'm telling y'.
Bowen Yang
All.
Chad Ochocinco
I heard about Catspan and man, they. They almost got custody of their kids and they still paying.
Bowen Yang
Absolutely. Absolutely. You get the kids during the summer, you get the kids for one to two months. Guess what? You still got to send that same money. Hey, so we're gonna move on. Abdul Carter was asked today about hearing teammates say he needs to grow up. He responded, I'll take it. The guys who say that are the guys I look up to. I respect. If they say something like that, I've got to look at myself and say, how can I get better? Lawrence Taylor also had a message for Abdul Carter. Said, wake up. This is what you work for. This is what you want to be. So now that you're there, wake up. I like it.
Joe Johnson
That's a good response from him. That's a grown up response, too. Yeah, that's a grown up response, you know, but normally number three in the.
Bowen Yang
Pick in the draft, and they gotta tell you, Ocho, you sleep in the meetings you miss. Come on now, Ocho.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, you right.
Alicia Baumgartner
You right.
Bowen Yang
We gotta hold these kids account. He ain't a kid. He grown ass, man. He paying Bills.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bowen Yang
They gotta.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, hey, hey. We done jumped on you twice already. We done jumped on you twice already.
Bowen Yang
We understand. Joe being ex basketball player, Ocho and I being ex football players, we understand that some guys mature a little slower than other guys.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Especially when it comes to being professional at the occupation.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
But at some point in time, bro, how many times they got? They don't. This is twice in a matter of less than a month. Yeah. That you've missed time because of something that you can't control.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Three weeks, to be exact.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
That's college.
Bowen Yang
This is not college. They're not going to babysit you, bro.
Man.
Joe Johnson
Hey, look, he getting a little grace too, Joe, because you know, he is the third pick in the draft. But yes, he only gonna get, he'll, well, actually, third pick, he gonna get a little. A lot of grace.
Chad Ochocinco
Amen.
Bowen Yang
When I came on another team, hey.
Chad Ochocinco
When I came into the league, Uncle Ocho, I was so nervous and scared, bro. I tried to do everything the right way.
Bowen Yang
Yes.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Try to be not on time, but way before time, you know what I mean? But because I came up and I was coached by D. Nolan Richardson at the University of Arkansas, who was so old school, he ain't played none of that, bro. Like, I was groomed for all this before I even got to the pros. So when I did get somewhere and a coach was playing these mind games, man, I done been through all that. I done seen it all.
Joe Johnson
He was ready.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Hey, look, I'm still gonna show up, I'm still gonna do my work. I'm gonna still do what I have to do, and I'm gonna play hard. So I understood that at a young age, man.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I like it, but I like it.
Bowen Yang
Mayor Porter used to say, boy, you, that's the old school way. Yeah. A man gives you an honest salary, you give him honest days work, you be on time. You know what time you got to be at work.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Oh, I, I thought, bro, you come to work every day. Work started 8 o'. Clock. What you mean you thought today you started at 8, 15.
I, I just, I just, I just, I'm just gonna be. I'm just a sticker for time. And maybe I, I, I'm too much of a stickler for time, but my time is valuable. It's too valuable. I don't have a whole lot of it. I definitely don't. I'm on the other side, you know what I'm saying? I'm 57. I'm on the other side, Ocho, I ain't got a whole lot of time. And there's gonna be a time. There's gonna be a time that I' ma wish I' ma had some time back.
Joe Johnson
Right?
Bowen Yang
Yeah. Waiting on some jack leg. That bull driving around. Nah.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
All right, Ocho. Enjoy. It's time to play. Play a fade presented by prize picks.
Chad Ochocinco
All right. You got it.
Bowen Yang
The first was for you, Joe. Anthony Edwards will have more than 40 points, rebound and assists. So he'll have. He'll have. When you combine his points, rebounds and assists, it'll be more than 40. Who they playing?
Pelican?
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah, they. Yeah. Points, rebound, assist, 40. He for sure getting that. Hell, they probably get that off a point.
Bowen Yang
He getting that. All right. Derek Queen for. He'll have at least four assists. They play the Timberwolves.
Chad Ochocinco
I like. I like big Queen. I'm giving them. Yeah, I'm giving. I'm giving them the four assist. Yeah.
Bowen Yang
All right. We going for George Pickett. OO 80. 81 receiving yards.
Joe Johnson
Absolutely. Tomorrow.
Bowen Yang
Yep.
Chad Ochocinco
Hello.
Joe Johnson
Absolutely. Terry and Arnold out.
Bowen Yang
Yep.
Joe Johnson
Hell yeah.
Bowen Yang
I'm not sure if he was in it made much of a difference, but I'm going more. Also, Jameson WILLIAMS More than 83.5 receiving yards.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Absolutely. Hell yeah. They have no choice.
Bowen Yang
You'll get 84 yards against your. Your Cowboys. Hey, Joe, is. I'm in Ross St. Brown playing because.
Joe Johnson
You know, it's a game. It's a game time decision with his ankle.
Chad Ochocinco
That's gonna. That's gonna determine a lot.
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, he ain't getting that.
Joe Johnson
I don't know. I don't know.
Bowen Yang
And the thing is, hey, Cowboys. Cowboys. D line been playing really good.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Come on, give some love now. Give some love.
Bowen Yang
Clowny and Williams and you know, Diggy Zua Clark, Quinny Williams, they shaking it up. Kenny Clark.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. We trying to make a little late, late surge, you know, going down the stretch.
Bowen Yang
I' ma say under.
Chad Ochocinco
That's what I'm saying.
Bowen Yang
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Joe Johnson
Hey. Hey, Joe.
Bowen Yang
What's up?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I got a joke. You want to hear it?
Chad Ochocinco
Let me hear what you got.
Joe Johnson
Hey, aren't you ready?
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Chat y' all ready? Okay.
Chad Ochocinco
Stay ready.
Joe Johnson
All right. Hey, what's a kidnapper's favorite shoe?
Bowen Yang
A kidnapper's favorite shoe?
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Hush puppy.
Chad Ochocinco
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I don't know what your hair.
Joe Johnson
Y' all ready?
Bowen Yang
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
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Time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.
Aaron Jones. Any Buffalo fans in the chat, you can get this work. You know damn well Slay and Miss wanted to come back to Philly. Waiver wide needs to be. Needs to go. Darius Slay was released. He asked for and got his release by the Steelers. He was picked up by the Buffalo Bills. Ocho. He was hoping to get back, maybe potentially get back to Philly, but it's not going to happen. He's going to be in buffalo.
Kemper Norwood Jr. I'll always be here for you at Ocho. Love. Always appreciate that, Kemper. Appreciate that. Aaron Owens. 51 3. Devonte Adams has 117 touchdowns. I think he got his shot to catch to and Randy before he retires. I agree. Playing it the way he's playing right now. Yeah. I don't know if Jerry. I don't know if Jerry's 197 within reach, but hey, he's got 14 right now. I can see a scenario where he gets 20.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, absolutely. He's on. He's on the right team to do it, too. Yeah, the right team and the right system where they. They throw the ball in volume and the opportunities are going to always present themselves.
Bowen Yang
Hot water, Cornbread Fidget. Say, oh, can we get a new Lakers in five? We got something brewing. We definitely got something brewing. We got to find out who they gonna get. Who they gonna get, you know. You know, we got Luke on our side now, so we got some. We could definitely got something brewing. Quest 336. Trey foe native here. CP3 is a legend. Would love to see Houston pick him up. Much love.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't think.
Bowen Yang
You think. You think anybody else pick him up, Joe.
Chad Ochocinco
I think he'll get picked up, but I don't think Houston gonna pick him up.
Bowen Yang
Doctor Frankie L. Bellamy. That was a great interview with Dr. Bryant. Sounds like she's giving you the same advice I did. I just don't get it. You've been hit by me. Over £200. Who could bench press a Buick, but you won't let the right woman touch your heart.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hold on. Hold on. Are we supposed to get. We supposed to be getting married next year? You got somebody lined up, don't you?
Bowen Yang
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, doctor. Doctor. Dr. Frank. You know, I'm with you when you're. Right now. I'm with you when you're Right.
Joe Johnson
Okay. Yeah, we good, Doc. We good. Cause, you know, we having a dual wedding. Well, actually triple. Cause, Joe, you say you're gonna come too, huh?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I'm gonna be there. Ojo.
Joe Johnson
No, I talk about be there. Be part of it. We could be the first. We could be the first people. We can do the. We can do the show. We can do nightcap during the wedding.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. We got to work out the logistics and all that. We got to. We got to sit down at the round table by.
Bowen Yang
Definitely.
Joe Johnson
Okay, okay, okay. But I think that would be. We'd be the first ones to ever have. You know.
Chad Ochocinco
It sounds good. It sounds.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's nice.
Bowen Yang
Smoke face.333. He's not. He's six on the scoring list all time for the Clippers, number one in assist, and he can't say anything. So let me ask you a question. Can that help him being number. Number six in the score, scoring, and number one in assist, can that help them? Now, that's why I keep telling y', all, you got to update your resume.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
You do.
Joe Johnson
And that's crazy.
Chad Ochocinco
I. I don't. I think you. I'm with you when you got to update your resume, but I think the work that he's put in, man, he should. Unless it was him shouting and yelling at the coaches or the. The assistant coaches. I. I think the man should have an input, though. He should be able to say something. Like I said, he said it, and.
Bowen Yang
They say, okay, we don't want to hear it no more. He did, Joe. That's probably what got him out of there.
Chad Ochocinco
You probably right. You probably right. I think. And another thing by him, you know, he spent the bulk of his years playing for the Clippers, man, he probably. You know, he probably had a sense of comfort, comfortability in being there and. And being able to voice what he felt, you know, he's seen. So, yeah, maybe they just weren't having.
Bowen Yang
Gary Julian has him sat the bench for years. His voice meant the most in the locker room, so he definitely blamed. Ignore him. You should know better. Chris Paul made that franchise relevant, bro.
Haslam never left. That was his sole role. I mean, Chris Paul. How many teams have Chris Paul been on since he left the Clippers? Yeah, he been an okc. He been at Houston. He been at Phoenix. He been at San Antonio.
Been there.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Bowen Yang
That's the only franchise he's played for.
Chad Ochocinco
He from Florida. Yeah.
Bowen Yang
Yes.
Yeah.
Ma'. Am. 7. Anyone with two eyes knows MJ is the goat. Well, anyone with what I got three eyes, two eyes.
I'm a cyclops. I got three because it's Brian to me. JJ Carver, 80 at this point, reach out to Elgato for sponsorship.
We definitely.
Little David61. Giannis want to ship a chip for the team that he was drafted from. He could leave if he wants. Brand ran to Cleveland because he could not win in. He ran to Miami. Cause he couldn't win in Cleveland. Okay, De Brian win one in Cleveland. Didn't he come back and win one? Yeah. Brian never got traded. Brian never asked to get traded.
Played his years out in Cleveland, went to Miami, Played flow years in Miami, went back to Cleveland, played four years in Cleveland. LeBron never got traded, never asked to get traded. I don't have a problem with guys leaving and getting traded. I get a problem with guys trying to throw shade when LeBron did something and they secretly turn around and do the exact same thing. That's the only problem I got. I got a problem with y' all just wanting to leave. Hey, go where you feel you have a better chance to win. Yeah, but I remember a couple years ago, and y' all remember it, too. Babbitt, Patel, Giannis to the warriors for Kaminga.
Pazinski. Excuse me. And two picks. No, that's not gonna do it.
Give me Steph Curry and two. It'll pick.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, man. Come on, now.
Bowen Yang
Okay, then. So no, get to step it.
Chad Ochocinco
That ain't happening.
Bowen Yang
Triple F Scop Saturday says shout out to Elgato for keep showing up Nightcap. Oh, come on, man. Get your money back. Also, pay Unc his money. Yeah, do that. Ocho. Robert Goldman's. You told Bun B you want to host Nightcap at the Houston rodeo next year. Do you have the date? I want to plan flights and hotel in advance. Go Bears.
Chad Ochocinco
I know.
Bowen Yang
We're gonna reach out to. To Bun, see what's going on. We got.
Joe Johnson
That's gonna be live.
Bowen Yang
Hold on. Y' all gonna get out there.
Chad Ochocinco
Y' all gonna bull ride and all that?
Bowen Yang
No, no, I am gonna host it. We're gonna host the show.
Joe Johnson
Hey, I'm a ride the bulls and. Hey, Joe, I'm gonna do everything. We gonna make that a part of the show. That's gonna be an extension of the show.
I'm gonna go out there. Crazy boy. Joe. But you know, Joe, you know I ride bulls, horses. I do all that. Joe.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, they say if you ain't living life on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
Joe Johnson
Hey, who you telling?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, okay.
Bowen Yang
That's okay. I'M only taking up the space that I occupy. I ain't occupying nobody else space. So don't worry about what I'm doing over here. Shelter Pope, who's winning a 3 on 3 to 11 nightcap. Big 3 versus 5 20. Oh, we got them. They say what they talk about. Big three, us, me, you, Ocho against 520. We got them. Hold on.
Joe Johnson
Hey, a matter of fact, I'm.
Bowen Yang
I'm.
Joe Johnson
Whoever just said that, why I was just thinking about that earlier today, having all the podcasters, all the podcasts, 5:20, the pivot.
Busting with the ball.
Bowen Yang
The pivot not beating us.
Joe Johnson
No, hold on, but listen. And hey, just something competitive where we all. Where we all have. We all compete in something. I mean, that. That would be so fun. Like. Like a Podcast wars or some. Or something. I don't. I don't know. I don't. I don't know. I'm just.
Bowen Yang
What we playing?
Joe Johnson
I mean, I.
Bowen Yang
They say three on three to 11.
Joe Johnson
Three on three.
Chad Ochocinco
We good? Hey, we good. Hey, hey. Them boys like that here, man, we good.
Bowen Yang
Hey, Joe will have all them. Cause I'm feeding him, man. We get out of the block, Joe. Yeah, Ocho, can you shoot?
Joe Johnson
Hey, yeah, I can shoot, Joe.
Bowen Yang
Don't worry about it. Joe. You got left in you. Hey, Joe on the block. We won't find out if he can shoot because I ain't passing him.
Joe Johnson
Ish. Hey, don't worry about it. Hey, I'm like Shay out there on the court now. That's what we not gonna do.
Chad Ochocinco
All right, all right, all right.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey, Joe.
Bowen Yang
Yo, we saw you. We saw you. We saw you.
Matt Rogers
You.
Bowen Yang
We saw you. No, you're not like Shay.
Joe Johnson
I am like Shay.
Bowen Yang
Yeah, you like Shade Bow, Wild Daughter. No, you not playing. You're not playing. We're not throwing you the ball. You will not get any shots.
Joe Johnson
I'm a competitor. You throw me the ball.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey, hey, Ocho.
Bowen Yang
As long as you hustle zero.
Joe Johnson
Hey, that's. Hey, that's what I did. I ain't listen. That wasn't my job. We. We had a score. You said. You said it was all about knowing your role, right? I understood my role when I was there.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yeah.
Bowen Yang
We good. What we got to worry about is Gil. Gil. Cause he got Kenyan and I'm a.
Joe Johnson
Lot Gil bad knee having man.
Bowen Yang
Score.
KG and Paul Pierce. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know the truth.
Alicia Baumgartner
I got.
Joe Johnson
I got kg. Cause I'm gonna talk him out his game. I got kg. I'm gonna talk him out of the game. I'm gonna have my day. Ready to fight.
Bowen Yang
Yeah. And congratulations to 520. They got a Adidas deal. They signed the you deal. Nightcap next. But see, you see full frontals of them, so. But you don't see what we got on. I got on flip flops, actually. I got on Crocs.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
So I. I got on socks. They dirty, though.
Chad Ochocinco
All right.
Bowen Yang
Mauricio Zepeta got 12, 000 minutes listening to Nightcap on Spotify. Mauricio. Thank you, bro. Hey, I don't know, man. That means you probably in the top 1.2percent, because we've been seeing that a lot today, man. We can't thank you guys enough. We see you guys. That, that's. That's got all these minutes. You're in the top. 0. 0, 0.1%. Hey, we appreciate that, bro. We appreciate that. Can't. Can't thank you guys enough. Brandon Crow. Ocho told me to catch you outside for my comment on Jerry not being able to catch. Well, I'm still waiting. It's coldest ish outside, so hurry.
Yeah. Ocho.
I bet you Cleveland trade. Cleveland would trade y' all Judy for T. Higgins.
Huh? You want that? You want that trade?
You said he a number one. You say Higgins a number, so why not make that trade?
Joe Johnson
Well, which, which trade?
Bowen Yang
T. You trade T. Higgins for Jerry Judy Cleveland.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, we could do. We could do that. We could do that.
What you trying to. What you trying to do?
Bowen Yang
Cleveland trying to trade you Jerry Judith for T. Higgins.
Joe Johnson
I say. Okay, come on, T. T going T. T gonna want to go over there, and that's T gonna want to go to Cleveland.
Bowen Yang
I'm just asking you, do you want to trade?
Joe Johnson
I'm just asking, do you think T is going to want to go over there to Cleveland based on what's going on?
Bowen Yang
I think he's gonna want to go get his money. I don't know if T's gonna be able to come back next year. This is basically a one year deal.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, the way.
Bowen Yang
Basically a one year deal. But thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. We can't thank you enough. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp, my partner and co host, Liberty City's own, the Bingo Ring of Fame honoree, the Pro bowl of the All Pro. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson, third member of the Big Three, joining us every Wednesday night. Little Rock, Arkansas native, University of Arkansas alum, seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks. Here he is, ISO Joe Johnson again. Thank you Joe.
Joe Johnson
Hey wait.
Chad Ochocinco
Thank you.
Joe Johnson
I got one more joke.
Bowen Yang
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This episode of "Nightcap" dives deep into recent headlines in the sports world, including the WBC stripping Terence "Bud" Crawford of his title, boxer Alycia Baumgardner joining for a lively segment, Odell Beckham Jr.'s public response to spending habit criticism, and a discussion about the challenges faced by young pro athletes like Abdul Carter. The hosts blend humor and insight, offering candid takes and plenty of memorable moments.
Odell defends himself against critics judging how he spends his money, highlighting the public’s tendency to misinterpret athletes’ financial situations.
Discussion on the pressure athletes feel to maintain an affluent lifestyle and how difficult it is for many to adjust after their playing careers.
Ochocinco shares his philosophy on financial discipline and avoiding lifestyle inflation.
The topic expands to relationships becoming transactional as fame and wealth grow.
The conversation is animated, candid, and occasionally humorous, with plenty of direct language and sports locker room banter. The hosts and guests blend genuine insight with charismatic, sometimes playful delivery, making complex topics accessible and entertaining.
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This episode offers a unique window into the challenges athletes face, both in and out of the ring, and the way sports figures balance personal brand, financial security, and the high expectations set by themselves and the public. Alycia Baumgardner’s appearance is a highlight, energizing the show with her championship mindset and personality. The group’s discussion on money, fame, and authenticity is particularly compelling for fans and newcomers alike.