Nightcap Hour 2: Wembanyama EXPECTED to SIGN 5 YEAR $252M with Spurs + Adam Silver INFORMS the NBA of ANTI TANKING Rules + Bill Self SPEAKS on Darryn Peterson CHECKING OUT + Chicago Bears TO MOVE to INDIANA?! + Ravens OC Declan Doyle EMPHASIZES Off Se...

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 2 (February 20, 2026)

Host: Shannon Sharpe (absent from segment, major voices: Joe Johnson, Chad Ochocinco Johnson, "Uncle")
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts / Shay Shay Media

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Main Theme / Overview

This episode unfolds as a casual, high-energy, sports-centric roundtable with recurring voices Joe Johnson (ISO Joe), Chad Ochocinco Johnson, and their co-host "Uncle." The group runs through the week’s major headlines in the NBA and NFL, tackling contract news, league rule changes, draft prospects, franchise controversies, and always plenty of laughs. Tangents and debates abound—especially around franchise quarterbacks, the value of big men vs. small men in the NBA, and the persistent struggle with team relocations and financing. The energy is as competitive in their trash talk as in their sports takes, giving listeners a mix of serious sports insight and comic relief.

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Key Discussion Points, Insights & Timestamps

1. Wembanyama’s Mega Extension & NBA Contract Talk (01:59–06:00)

• Victor Wembanyama is set to sign a 5-year, $252 million extension with the Spurs (via Bobby Marks).
  • "I thought he would get about four." – Chad Ochocinco Johnson (02:11)
  • Joe and Chad break down the mechanics of rookie max extensions and speculate on Wemby’s next deal: "The next one will be about 600 ain't it?" (Chad, 02:17).
• Comparisons with current NBA stars' contracts (Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Jokic, Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown) and projections for their next mega-deals.
  • "[Jokic is] still averaging a triple double and won a title." – Joe Johnson (04:18)
• Light moment: Jokic’s indifference to NBA stardom vs. his passion for horse racing.
  • "You rather win MVP or have your horses win the race? He's like, horses win the race?" – Joe (05:03)

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2. Evolution of the NBA: Bigs vs. Smalls Debate (06:00–13:00)

• Recent dominating performances (Jalen Johnson’s stat lines) segue into a layered debate about the value of big men vs. small guards throughout NBA history.
  • "Everybody's gonna take a good big man over a good little man." – Joe (07:33)
  • Only Isaiah Thomas and Steph Curry are credited as "small guards" who led championship teams (08:46).
• Discussion includes challenges for undersized guards like Jalen Brunson, with insight on defensive strategies used against him (Detroit’s game plan).
  • "When Detroit play the Knicks, they make Jaylen Brunson work—I'm talking about from the tip, from inline to inline." – Chad (12:02)
• Notable line: "If you have aspirations of going to the NBA and you not six, seven or better, you better be special." – Uncle (10:35)
• "Steph runs so damn much... he gonna run you into a fire hydrant, a parked car and a fire truck." – Joe (12:15)

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3. NBA Anti-Tanking Rules & League Integrity (15:39–18:22)

• Joe breaks down the NBA’s proposed anti-tanking rule changes after Adam Silver informs GMs.
  • Key proposals: top-4 pick protections, lottery odds freezing, and penalties for repeated tanking.
  • "Y'all thought they weren't gonna get a hold of this tanking? No sir." – Chad (16:40)
• They mock notorious tanking “Trust the Process” phase:
  • "How you get three number one overall picks in four years?" – Joe (16:55)
• Consensus: The group supports harsher consequences for persistent losing, seeing the changes as overdue.

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4. Bowling Outing & Lighthearted Banter (18:22–24:45)

• The group reviews fan-requested video clips from a recent bowling session, sparking friendly trash talk and laughter.
  • Repeated jabs as they debate who is the true "people's champ" and who needs to “keep that same energy” at their next competition.

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5. Darryn Peterson’s Mentality & Draft Stock (26:56–32:10)

• Kansas coach Bill Self addresses Darryn Peterson checking himself out after just 18 minutes of play; NBA execs question Peterson's mentality and durability.
  • Self: "[...] that's disappointing because he could have had a really big night... we've learned to play without him even though that's not the way we want to play." (27:14)
  • The hosts echo pro scouts’ skepticism: "If you limp into the pros, you know what it’s gonna be like once you get into the pros." – Chad (28:17)
  • "If you can't make it through a 30-game season, how the hell you gonna make it through 82?" – Chad (30:05)
  • Joe: "If you don’t have it in you, they can’t pay you enough money to develop it." (30:30)
  • Debate over what’s missing in the prospect’s support system.

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6. Chicago Bears: Indiana Move? Stadium Financing Debate (35:36–39:52)

• Lawmakers in Indiana clear a path for the Bears to build a new stadium outside Chicago.
  • "Can you imagine the Bears really leaving Chicago? Damn." – Joe (36:14)
• Extended criticism of using public funds for billionaire team owners’ stadiums.
  • "So, you want to tax me, I help you [fund a] two and a half billion dollar stadium, so the ticket price goes up, concession goes up...what is in it for me?" – Joe (38:16)
  • Uncle argues, “you got to be shrewd to attain that kind of wealth...use the people to get what you want.”

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7. Ravens OC Declan Doyle’s Offseason Attendance Call-Out (39:57–64:11)

A highlight debate segment, with passionate arguments and raised voices:

• New coordinators generally expect franchise QBs to set the tone by attending voluntary workouts, particularly when installing new systems.
• Did OC Declan Doyle indirectly or directly call out Lamar Jackson for his previous absences at OTAs?
  • Joe: "Which guy has not been participating in the voluntary OTAs the last seven of the eight years?" (42:04)
  • Uncle: "A new offensive coordinator is not calling out the team franchise leader...all it’s going to do is piss him off." (41:24)
  • Joe: "You want to win, you got standards, you got to do things a certain way." (51:23)
  • The Patriots/Brady–Belichick comparison is hotly debated.
• Ochocinco diplomatically summarizes: "In order for us to reach something we've never had before, we got to do something we’ve never done." (52:32)
• Extended laughs and ribbing over this generational coaching-player culture clash.
• Toward the end of the debate, consensus emerges that team leaders set the standard by being present, especially for sweeping system changes.

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8. NFL Roster Moves, Offseason Incentives, and Chiefs Cap Strategies (68:23–73:11)

• Chiefs restructure Patrick Mahomes’ contract, lowering the cap number from $78M to $34M, freeing up more space.
• Speculation on possible trades and their impact, including the future of Denzel Ward and Kansas City’s needs (WR, running back, pass rusher).
  • “If Kansas City had a real running back…Just a guy who can give them 1100 yards.” – Joe (69:33)

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9. Florida Senate Passes Teddy Bridgewater Act: High School Sports Support (73:43–74:30)

• New law allows coaches to use up to $15,000 of their funds to help student-athletes.
  • Joe: "I like it."
  • Uncle: "That's dope. That's live." (74:02)

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10. Fan Q&A, Bowling Rivalries, and Athlete Respect (74:52–90:46)

• Q&A session filled with fans trolling the hosts about their bowling skills ("still the people’s champ") and debating sporting topics like Julius Peppers vs. Jason Taylor.
• ISO Joe Johnson details the toughest players he had to guard in the NBA were relentless movers "like Rip Hamilton or Ray Allen…that was the hardest" (89:13)
• Closing playful trash talk about various “competitions” the hosts keep lining up for each other.

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps & Speaker Attribution)

• "The next one will be about 600 ain't it?"
  — Chad Ochocinco Johnson (02:17), on Wemby’s eventual second deal

• "Everybody's gonna take a good big man over a good little man."
  — Joe Johnson (07:33)

• "If you have aspirations of going to the NBA and you not six, seven or better, you better be special."
  — Uncle (10:35)

• "How you get three number one overall picks in four years?"
  — Joe Johnson (16:55), on tanking

• "If you can’t make it through a 30-game season, how the hell you gonna make it through 82?"
  — Chad Ochocinco Johnson (30:05), on Darryn Peterson

• "So, you want to tax me, I help you [fund a] two and a half billion dollar stadium, so the ticket price goes up, concession goes up...what is in it for me?"
  — Joe Johnson (38:16), on stadium financing

• "Which guy has not been participating in the voluntary OTAs the last seven of the eight years?"
  — Joe Johnson (42:04), referencing Lamar Jackson

• "Calling out your franchise quarterback is just stupid... What are you proving saying it publicly?"
  — Uncle (45:04)

• "In order for us to reach something we've never had before, we got to do something we’ve never done."
  — Chad Ochocinco Johnson (52:32)

• "If you don’t have it in you, they can’t pay you enough money to develop it."
  — Joe Johnson (30:30)

• "Those guys, Rip Hamilton, Ray Allen, Reggie Miller...never stopped moving. It’s the hardest to guard."
  — ISO Joe Johnson (89:13)

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Memorable Moments

• Brink's Truck/Contract Jokes: Jokes about massive NBA paydays and the “Brinks truck” rolling up (04:41).
• Bowling Highlights: The group’s relentless teasing and replay of their bowling outing, with Chad getting crowned “people's champ” by the chat (18:22–24:45, and Q&A).
• Bathroom Humor: Extended, good-natured riff on Uncle’s on-air “dookie break” (32:23–35:09).
• Heated QB-Coach Debate: The lively, extended back-and-forth on whether the Ravens OC should call out Lamar Jackson—one of the most energetically argued segments in Nightcap history (39:57–54:16).

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Conclusion / Final Thoughts

This Nightcap Hour 2 episode is a showcase of irreverent, informed, and often hilarious sports talk, seamlessly weaving substantial NBA and NFL news with the hosts’ characteristic barbershop-style banter. From Wemby's generational money, anti-tanking measures, franchise moves, to rare moments of genuine concern for young athletes' futures, the show strikes a balance between insight and entertainment. Listeners come away both caught up on the week’s sports drama and looking forward to the next time Uncle and Joe can rib each other over who forgot their bowling shoes or who sat out OTAs.

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Recommended for: Basketball and NFL fans, anyone who loves locker-room humor mixed with X’s and O’s, and those interested in player perspectives on league business and athlete culture.

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Note: Ad reads, intros, and outro sponsorship plugs have been omitted for clarity and flow per instructions.

Transcript

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[Joe Johnson]

That's loseweightnow co is expected to sign a five year 252 million dollar extension with the spurs this summers summer per Bobby Marks.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, that's it. I thought he would get about four.

[Joe Johnson]

That's all he can get. This is his first match.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I know.

[Joe Johnson]

Next one?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, the next one will be about 600 ain't it?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh it'll be over four for sure.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Wait, hold on. The next one. How old is he? How old is he?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

22.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So by the time he signed his next one, he gonna be right smack dead in his prime.

[Joe Johnson]

Probably about so that they'll do it with another two years. So. Yeah, in three years he'll be back at the table again.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He'll probably. Hey, in three years, uncle, you think he'll have an MVP under his belt?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I think it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Serious, Serious. It'll be him and probably Shay. Jokic gonna be in it every year because. Because his game is not physically demanding and you won't see any deterioration. So he'll be give. He'll still give you 23, 24, 13 assists and 1112 rebounds.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree. He gonna be able to play as long as he wants to.

[Joe Johnson]

We'll start to. Come on, Ant man. Yeah, but I could. I could definitely see. Cause you. You see what you call them. Shay. This was sec shay's second max. He got a. What he get? 294. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, that boy, he filthy over there.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

So, boy, nasty boy.

[Joe Johnson]

What's the ash. What's the max that Jokic can get when he signs this summer? Cause you know, you already.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What you think you're gonna do?

[Joe Johnson]

Already got 300 million dollar contracts. JB and JT. One of the 306, the other is a 314.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, I'm saying, how old is Jokers?

[Joe Johnson]

30. Yeah, gotta be like, probably like. Yeah. 31, 32. But he gonna get that mad.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They still.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hey, they not. They not gonna play with him.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, hell no.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, look, hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Cause.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Cause then they have Ocho. They owe it to him.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, you got to realize Ocho, he's still averaging a triple double

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

and won a title.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I mean, maybe, maybe, maybe in basketball it's different. But you know, once you hit them 30s, they start. They start playing games with your man when it comes. When it come time to play.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, no, it's like that in basketball.

[Joe Johnson]

Jokic will get 59 next season, 62 in the option year. But waiting, waiting. This year he gonna renegotiate. He's eligible for a four year.293, which is 70 a year.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Damn, boy got that big farm back home.

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He.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you care about them horses. They asking, say, which would you rather win? You rather win with the MVP or have your horses win the race? He's like, horses win the race?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, man, gotta love it.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Jokic, he just actually, he.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He Ain't. I don't think 31. Did Chad say he ain't he 30?

[Joe Johnson]

He just had a birthday today. His birthday today. He just. His birthday is today. He 31 today.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

He's averaging 29 points, 12 rebounds, 11 assists.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know what that means, don't you, Ocho?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What's that truck?

[Joe Johnson]

They bring that bricks?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hey, that. That's the Brink truck, right?

[Joe Johnson]

When they come out, when the guard get out there with that thing on his hip.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

There you go.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

On his hip. He already got a drawing.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, yeah, but they got two guys. They got two guys with him. But the guy. The driver and two guys with him, huh? Jalen Johnson. Over the last six games, Ocho Joe, 32 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists, 19, 13 and 9. 31 points, 9 rebounds, 8 assists, 22 points, 16 rebounds, 15 assists, 29 points, 11 rebounds, 11 assists, 33 points, 12 rebounds, 10 assists. That is why Trey Young is in the nation's capital, which is D.C. and I got.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I got to go see this, man. I got.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, and.

[Joe Johnson]

And what?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

We just pop Philly tonight?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The boy had 32. 10 and five tonight. Yeah.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hey. Hey, Joe. I'm coming to Atlanta next week, man. I got to see this.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All right, let me. Let me make sure.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Make sure I gotta.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Let me look at the schedule, see what game we're gonna go to. What you want to see? It ain't gonna be nothing but a highlight. Highlight reel. That's what you talking about.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what they call it, the highlight factor.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Listen, I'm trying. I'm trying to understand. As great as Trey Young was, as exciting as he was in Atlanta, they let him go. And I keep hearing Jalen. Jalen Johnson this, Jalen Johnson that. I need to see in person for myself what young Bull is all about.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Ocho, he nice. Ocho, he got. He got it. He got everything. He can. He can post up. He can get to the bucket, he can shoot the three. He can shoot the midi. He got ISO. Gee, that works. You hear me? And then guess what? He get in the paint, he'll bang on you. You better not jump. You hear me?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

How tall are you? How tall are you?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Like six, seven, six or six, nine.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Okay, that's normal. That's normal.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

After getting to the money.

[Joe Johnson]

But. Oo all things. Everybody's gonna take a good big man over a good little man. And if you talk about great, great, it's hard. It ain't a whole lot of. Ain't a whole lot of great Players to small people. When we say guards that you would take over a great big.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, it's just not. You're right.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

And that. That's. You know what? That's a great. That I. I like that scenario. You just said, who's a small person? Regardless of how good a Jaylen Johnson is or anyone else 65 and up. Who's a small guard that you would take over? Any of the big, big men you

[Joe Johnson]

talk about in the history of the game.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

In today's.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

In today's game. It gotta be somebody. Come on.

[Joe Johnson]

No, not no small. No. You talking about six, five or below. I'm not taking anybody. I'm not taking Shane. He's six, seven. I'm not taking him over Jokic. You crazy.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

God damn.

[Joe Johnson]

The only two. The only two really like small guards that you consider them small guards. I mean, because when you really think about it, only two small guards have ever won an NBA title or led a team. That's Isaiah and Steph. Yeah. Only two small guards. When we're talking about six, three and under.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

Magic of the guard. But magic was 6, 9. Shea is 6, 7. When you talk about small guards, it's Isaiah and Steph Curry.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

Jordan was a big guard. Kobe's a big guard.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So you're not taking. No. You're not taking no small guy over. No big guy over. No big. Well, the.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The average NBA height is 6, 7. Yes.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

At average.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's the average NBA height.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's why. Look, Ocho, if you're a small dude playing this game and you play for an extended period of time, bro.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Right. You got to be special.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, my God. Oh, man. You got to be different.

[Joe Johnson]

Because even. Even though. Think about it. When Jordan came out, they took two Bigs over him. They took Elijah one and slam Bowie over Jordan.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

You know what? You know what's funny? If they could do it again, I bet it would be reversed in that

[Joe Johnson]

time if they knew what it was

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

going to turn out to be.

[Joe Johnson]

Maybe in today's game. Right? But you think about it. You think about the bigs, you think about Shaq, you think about Kareem. You think about Will, you think about Russell.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You think about Duncan, you think about Robinson. You're not taking. You're not in that time. You're not taking no small guy with those guys. Hell no.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

In today's game, the way the game is opened up, you would consider it. But all things being equal.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know if you taking them. I don't Know if Kareem was coming out, knowing what Kareem did in college, he would. He lost one game in college. He's a three time champion, a three times most outstanding player. And his freshman year. Freshman. Couldn't play back then. His freshman team beat UCLA that had just won the national championship.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Championship.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hey, you know what? That's, that's crazy that. That's. That's so damn near demoralizing too. I mean, Joe, now that y' all said that, right? So basically, if you have aspirations of going to the NBA and you not six, seven or better, you better be.

[Joe Johnson]

You better be Ant Man. You better be Steph Curry. Unless you better have some extraordinary talent. Steph Curry can shoot the ball. Ant man had elite athleticism and he's turned himself and now he can shoot the ball. Atlantic League in three point shots. Three porters made last year. So unless you're Donovan Mitchell or Ant man, that screaming athleticism, or Steph Curry.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Who's the greatest shooter ever. Yeah. It becomes very, very difficult. I ain't gonna even hold you.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

But that's hard, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It is, bro.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

It is hard.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It is.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

And I'm assuming if you 6, 7 below, you got to play above the rim.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, no, no, you ain't got to play above.

[Joe Johnson]

He don't play above the rim.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hell, look at Jokic. Hell, he's seven foot.

[Joe Johnson]

He does. He does. He does. And I think that's why people say it's going to be hard for Jalen Brunson, because as the de facto leader of the team was for a small guard, because there have been so few.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You know, man, hey, you know what? Not you speaking on Jaylen Brunson. Detroit got their number. They make him work.

[Joe Johnson]

You got to.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

When Detroit play the Knicks, they make Jaylen Brunson work. I'm talking about from the tip, from inline to inline, bro. I noticed that. You know, they put that Thompson kid on them. They just wear him down. They try.

[Joe Johnson]

You got to, man. You got to. Well, I gotta. I gotta make it as. As. As tough as possible. See, the thing is. And people try that with stuff, but Steph runs so damn much. He gonna run y' all five screens. He gonna run you into a fire hydrant, a parked car and a fire truck.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And he don't need but a split second.

[Joe Johnson]

Like a split. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Split second. It's cash.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. So, yeah, it's. It's in that game for like. I'm talking about like leaders of the team. Isaiah was the leader of, of, of the. Of the Pistons. Steph is the leader, was the leader of the, of the so yeah, it's, it's hard. It ain't been a whole. It ain't been a whole lot of small guys that, as the leader, have won a championship.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You're right. Right.

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[Joe Johnson]

Silver informed the league 30 general managers today that the NBA plans to make anti tanking rule changes for next season. Stakeholders have intensified dialogue about combating tanking, according to Shams. Multiple sources with knowledge of Thursday's GM meeting as well as late January competition committee meeting told ESPN that the following concepts have been discussed to curb tanking first first round picks can be protected. Only the top four or the top hold on or top 14 plus lottery odds freeze at the trade deadline or a later date. No longer allowing team to pick a top four in consecutive years or after consecutive bottom three finishes. Oh I like that. Teams can't pick top four a year after making conference finals. Lottery odds are allocated based on two year records. Lottery extended to include all playing teams. Flattened odds for all lottery teams.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh yeah, y' all thought they weren't gonna get a hold of this. Y' all thought they were gonna let this tank and just go on? No sir. Some way, somehow they gonna find a way to put their imprint on this to where it can stop affecting the game.

[Joe Johnson]

It should. Yeah. I mean hell, I mean think about Cleveland was taken way back when. They get Kyrie, then two years later they get the other guy and then a year later to get Andrew Wiggins. How you get three double one overall picks in the four year span, Joe?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't know. That's why you got. It's gotta be repercussions to all that for you to be bad for those consecutive years like that. Man, you shouldn't get rewarded, right? You shouldn't keep rewarded with number one picks after number one picks when you ain't even trying.

[Joe Johnson]

You ain't even trying to win. At least foolish.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's what I'm saying.

[Joe Johnson]

I said at least foolish. Make us think you trying to win. How you got the lead. You got the lead going into the fourth quarter and then you don't play your starters no more. Come on now. Come on Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, they. They probably. They trying not to make it too obvious, but it was.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, Philly was doing the same thing Remember, trust the process. Remember, trust the process, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We trust the process.

[Joe Johnson]

Number one overall pick, they got Ben Simmons. Number one overall pick, they got Joel Embiid. A top Joel Embiid would have been the number one number one overall pick had his back not been messed up. Right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right. Hey, man, Only gonna get you so far. It's only gonna get you so far. I'm glad they putting these. These stipulations in because we. I'm tired of looking at bad basketball.

[Joe Johnson]

Before we go to the next topic, the Chat requested a video of the best of the best people. Chat. Moments from our bowling outing. We. With further ado. Ocho. Banjo.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, no. Oh, no. Look how. Look how slow roll that thing. Look how slow roll that thing.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Why a come down here to play with y', all, baby. Ah, you know what? We on Nightcap. But this the ISO takeover, baby. This the ISO takeover. Well, I love it here. Hey, nothing like kicking some ass, boy. Ain't nothing like it. Well, here y' all go. Y' all go. Here, y' all go ahead.

[Joe Johnson]

I already know. I already know. You ain't getting that one.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

You know, I noticed that the lane. The lane is. Yeah, it's lopsided to the right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You see how that thing kind of. It look like it going that way?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

It got to be lopsided a little bit.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, no, that's that little spin I put on it.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, little spin I put on nothing. Hey, Ash, when the next time I'm on with these boys again, Nightcap, when we.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Lord have mercy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, boy.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hey, hey. He feeling himself, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Take that morale in. Take it. Take it, take it. Turn me into a maniac in the. Take it. Oh, he feeling good. He feeling good.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

He said, turn me into a maniac.

[Joe Johnson]

Misbehaving, don't you.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hey, he's showing out.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, listen, boy, I ain't laughed that hard a long time, fella, but I'm telling you, I ain't laughed down. I watched that, boy. I was in tears.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hey, you better. You. I hope you enjoyed that laugh, because it ain't gonna be like that no more next time we get out there, boy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ocho. Heavy is the head that wears a crown, fella.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I understand.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I understand.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hey, listen. Hey, even Rome failed, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, it's okay.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Rome failed.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it's okay. Yeah. Yeah, boy. This joker here, he just missed me. Hey, he requested. We ain't never requested no video or nothing. This man got the video. There's a chat. Requested videos hey, shout out to the people. Chat.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I so love y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I appreciate it. I know I got a lot of responsibility. Them boys gonna be at my neck, but don't worry. I promise you. I promise you. Okay, hold it down. You hear me?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hey, keep that. Keep that same energy now.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

The second most requested video was the progression of me protecting my muscles and throwing the joint like a softball. Take a look at this, man.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Oh.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, What?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

He going right, nigga. Matter of fact, he going right, nigga. To the left.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, my goodness.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He started moving that thing down. It's the.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on. Really? Okay, man, Ocho be cheating, man. I didn't touch you. I might have been up there doing what I was doing, but I didn't touch you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Get a man some grace, man. The game. The game was out of reach. It wasn't like y', all, you know? I mean, get a man some great. He just having a little fun. Yeah. It wasn't nothing y' all could have done, you know what I mean?

[Joe Johnson]

You see, Ocho? You see how.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hey, hey, listen. I'm listening to him. I hear him loud and clear. It's cool.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, look, it's like being in class.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

You.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, you know, the bell about to get ready to rings, and look, you already prepared. As soon as the bear is, you can go right out the door.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, it was over with. It was over with. For anybody in the chat that haven't seen the full episode, you can catch it. We dropped it on Tuesday, but go catch the full episode. There's some great clips in there, some great moments. As you can tell, the guy that's gloating it with the crooked with the crown on, clearly, he won.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hey, you got to understand why he's so happy, huh? You know. You know, he talking trash to us. He. He's used to competing, but he's not used to winning. We used to winning.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What? Listen, listen, guys. Ocho, this comes from the people, man. Y' all get. You know what? I'll take this is. I take. I take the blunt, you know? I mean, a drawback, but this is what the people want.

[Joe Johnson]

The people won't.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They.

[Joe Johnson]

They. They.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They anointed me as a people champ, man.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm in front of everybody. I'm in front of the world. Nightcap, letting y' all know, man, I will not let y' all down. Yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

boy,

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

you gonna have to back all this up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Say less, say less.

[Joe Johnson]

We gonna go fishing. I know your tall ass can't fish we gonna do who we got.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Don't. Don't let this hype fool you, all right?

[Joe Johnson]

You ain't never been. You ain't been in the mud hole. You ain't been down there and caught no fish.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, look, I grew up in a neighborhood called Fush Dam. It's called Dam at the end because we have a dam, a body of water, right? I'm saying for the people in the chat who probably didn't know, I grew up in Fishdale on the east side of Little Rock, Arkansas. Yeah, and all we did was fish. Me, my homeboy, bg, the Greenwoods vault. Man, look, all we did was fish, man.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah, okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'm not doing this.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

All right.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, say less, man. Let me tell y' all something. It ain't too much that I can't do. I ain't trying. I'm just. I'm just gonna keep it 100 with y'. All.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Oh, he talking spicy, boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, his day coming.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Are you talking spicy?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

The people, baby.

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[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah.

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[Joe Johnson]

Joe, here's the topic for you man. Kansas City head coach Bill Self spoke about Darren Peterson unexpectedly checking himself out of the game after playing 18 minutes. Let's take a listen to what head coach Bill Self had to say is

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

just that

[Joe Johnson]

well, we've had it more

[Commercial Announcer]

than a couple of times and

[Joe Johnson]

I

[Commercial Announcer]

didn't anticipate that tonight at all. I thought he was good to go, but obviously we only got 18 minutes out of. You know, that's disappointing because he could have had a really big night. But, but you know, one thing about it is we we've it's happened often enough that our guys have learned to play without him even though that's not the way we want to play. But that's certainly something that we're not unaccustomed to. You know right now.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe Scouts and executive around the NBA have concerns and questions about Darren Peterson's mentality and availability, according to Sean Farnum. Oo Joe, is he is this young man gonna be the number one overall pick cuz he has the ability. But there are some concerns. There are some major major red flags.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I agree. And like like we always say, if you limp into the pros, you know what it's gonna be like once you get into the pros. Because a OOH he, he's had, he's had games to where he's been unbelievable in first half. This ain't. That ain't the first time he took himself out.

[Joe Johnson]

No, it's not. He only played.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, no. So, yeah, I think it's definitely a concern if I'm an NBA scout. Does he have talent? Number one talent? Yes, he does. He can play. I give him all that. Like the way he moves on the court, the way he gets to his spots, the way he shoots over the defense. Make tough. He's a tough shot maker.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, he'll be a hell of a

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

pro if he can stay healthy. But man, they finna, they, that's a gamble that these execs gonna have to take. And paying you, paying you millions, paying you top dollar for the number one pick. I think it's gonna be hard for him to be the number one pick. Cause it's so, like I say, this draft is so deep, you got so much great talent that yeah, his draft stock could drop for sure. For sure.

[Joe Johnson]

I agree. There's just too many incidences. There's too many incidences where we've seen things like this happen. You hear the reports and you don't want to believe the reports, but I mean, am I going to believe my lying eyes? I mean, I don't get it. He checked himself out of the game after he made the three and after coach Steph says, I gotta kind of gotten used to playing without him because he's done this on multiple occasions. This is crazy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. And when your head coach comes out and says that, you know, it's kind of baffling to him. It's like, like he said, man, he would have had a hell of a game. He only played 18 minutes, had 20 points. Like the kid is special.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But man, can you imagine if you can't make it through a 30 game season, how in the hell you gonna make it through an 82 game season? It's not possible. And when, and you know what, you know the, the discouraging thing is he got a great body. He looks great. He looks like he in good shape. He, he's a great athlete. You can tell by, by the way he moves and it's like, how did you just keep shutting himself down like that? What is it?

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know. I. I don't know. I don't know what it. Cause if you don't have it in you, they can't pay you enough money to develop it.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

There you go, there you go.

[Joe Johnson]

Money, just money makes you more of what you already are. Money exacerbates whatever problems you have. If you cannot maintain your weight in college with no money, imagine when you can go get. You can or call, call UberEats and. Or go to a steakhouse and eat whatever you want. Right. If you exhibit this type of behavior, I just. I just don't get this young man. He has an opportunity to set his family up for years and for 50 years, 100 years. I don't. I mean, where are people that are around him? I don't know if his parents, his grandparents, his handlers, his manager, his agent. Are there not anyone around that can get in touch with him and say, son, do you understand what you're doing? That what you're jeopardizing if there's not anyone around him?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

There's gotta be, man, there's gotta be somebody in his ear because these guys are getting paid too much money nowadays. This ain't just regular college basketball no more. This is a professional sport. He's already a professional.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So he. I'm. I'm sure he has a team that's around him now. I don't know if they telling him what he need to hear, but this definitely going to hurt his draft stock, man. I mean, it's just. It's too many talented guys out there coming out of. Coming out of college.

[Joe Johnson]

You got the bonza, you got Cameron Boozer, you got the kid, North Carolina, the kid that you talk about. Acuff.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You seen Acuff the other night last night?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, he was smoking. He was smoking.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, look, we only had. We only had seven guys last night against Alabama, in Alabama. Seven guys. And we went there win the double overtime.

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho, you went in there dookie, huh?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Lord have mercy. This man done went dookie to come right back on here.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

What I'm supposed to do, I had to use it. I had to do number two.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You wash your hands, bro?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah, Joe, you see me with that

[Joe Johnson]

don't mean you just got some paper towels and ball them up. Chad, I am sorry, Chad. I want to apologize. Joe and I. Joe and I want to apologize for. Oo. This man went duke and came back on the show. Lord have mercy.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

What I'm supposed to do.

[Commercial Announcer]

Damn.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What you had to eat, bro? You ate something before you got on here.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right before. You know, I had my soul food. I had my soul food spot. I mean, my soul food spot. Little yams, Mac and cheese, greens, and I think it's the coffee. I had a coffee you said yams,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Mac and cheese green. What kind of protein you have? Huh? What kind of protein you had, Cigar? You ain't had no protein with your yams, Mac and cheese and greens.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Mean. I had. Had chicken.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, okay. Yeah.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

What you had? I had get my three legs.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay. Okay.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Just checking on you, bro. Make sure you right.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I'm good. I'm good. I mean. Joe, look at me, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I see. I see you, boy.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah. Hey, Jo. Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey.

[Joe Johnson]

Lord have mercy.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

As long as you know. Hey.

[Joe Johnson]

In that paint, I just waited.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

You would have waited for it.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't know how this man just go Duke and come back and get on the show and just sit down.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

It's a. I mean, it's. It's a part of life. I mean, we. We all got to do it. I just like if it was a little turtle head right there.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

All right, all right. And that's a.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

No, I'm just saying, Joe,

[Joe Johnson]

this man go Duke it and come right back on the show and just sit down and just start talking again.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Are you. Are you baby wipes, though?

[Joe Johnson]

Lord have mercy. Okay, Let's look at it. They look at. Because right now. Ocho, they got Joe, they got. Darren Peterson is the number one on the big boy. They got Cameron Bruiser. Two, they got AJ Debonza. Three. They got Caleb Wilson. Four, they got Kingston Fleming. Five, Mikhail Brown Jr. Keaton Wagler, Nate Amit, Darius Acuff and Braylon Mullins. Those are the top 10.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey. Just the other day, you ain't had a cuff in the top 10. You had him at, like, 14. Hey, Darius Acuff.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

That's the one from Arkansas, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, boy. You seen him getting money. Ocho.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hey, boy, he nice.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe, me. You go keep the conversation. We ain't gonna talk to dookie boy.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Come on, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Chad, that's a new name. Hashtag Dookie boy.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hey, don't do me like that, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, this man come out there with paper ties. Sit right back down like, bro, like we don't know. You've been gone for, like six minutes.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

It was two minutes. I got it. I got it up out of. I got it up out of there quick. All right, Come on, come on, Come on, Joe, don't do me like that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I got you. I got you.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I'm trying. I'm trying to be professional.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I got you. I got you. I got you.

[Joe Johnson]

Indiana lawmakers in the state House Ways and Means Committee unanimously approved an amendment to the Indiana state bill 27 by a vote of 24 to nothing that would clear the path for the Bears to build a stadium in Hammond, Indiana. The Bears promised 2 billion for a new stadium, but sought 850 million in public funding for surrounding infrastructure while also trying to. To negotiate down their property taxes. Ocho, Indiana governor ain't playing. Can you imagine the Bears really leaving Chicago? Damn. Chicago leaving the state of Illinois.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah, listen, the, the fun, the funny thing about it is when you think about him going down to Indiana, if I'm not mistaken, if my math serves me correctly, the drive ain't none but 30 goddamn minutes. They not going that far. Obviously.

[Joe Johnson]

It's. What if they put the Dolphins in Alabama? In Alabama.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

That'll make. Come on. But I'm saying the drive, based on where they are now to where they would have to go, it ain't nothing but a 30 minute drive. Now, I could be wrong, but you

[Joe Johnson]

leaving the state, Ocho.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand, I understand. Listen, they, I, I don't know why they would want to. If they need to do any renovations to Soldier Field, which I think you've already done, man, do it. Don't put a dog right there.

[Joe Johnson]

Is that they want these, they want taxpayer dollars to build them a stadium. And then they.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

And they get all the revenue that said stadium generates. How's that, how is, how is that fair to the taxpayers? Y', all these billionaires, people should not. Their tax dollars should not go to fund you. You see, that's why you the chief left. Chief left Missouri, went to Kansas, right? And we see this. Come on, man, they got. Come on, stall it out. Y'. All, the hus family worth 16, 17, 20 something billion dollars. And then you taking a billion, $2 billion from taxpayers to build a stadium to deepen your pockets even more.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hold on. And you understand, you know, in order to reach that, that level of wealth, Joe. And you got to be shrewd in order to. In order to attain that kind of wealth. These are the type of games you have to play. You got to do this. You got to be able to use the people to be able to get what you want. Because if you use your own money, there's no way you'd be a billionaire.

[Joe Johnson]

Leverage. Everything is about. Is about debt.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And then you write it down. But they got me. Look, and I understand, and I understand, but it don't benefit the taxpayers. They don't get nothing out of this. And guess what? Every year the damn ticket prices go up. Every year the concession goes up. So let me get this straight. You want to tax me? I help you. Basically, I fund a two and a half billion dollar stadium. So the ticket price goes up, concession goes up, parking goes up, paraphernalia goes up. What is in it for me? Oh, yeah, you get to root for your favorite team. Man, get the F out of here. Now. What they did do, is that it for Chicago. So. Because Chicago come back. So. Okay, yeah, y' all see. Y' all see. Y' all would really leave because at first they had built. They had thought about putting something out in Arlington.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Then it was like, you know what? Let's really put the pressure on them. See Missouri. Missouri's like, nah, y' all do it all. Yo, yo. They say, okay, we gonna go across, we gonna go. We gonna go down the road.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Then they ain't gonna let them Bears get out of Chicago okay with y.

[Joe Johnson]

But it's just. I think so.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't see it.

[Joe Johnson]

I. No, I don't. I don't think so either, Joe. But it's the fact that they. But they hold you hostage. Yeah. I'm saying, oh, ch.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Be. Hey, yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

they gonna do that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Now.

[Joe Johnson]

I got you at gunpoint. Give me everything that you get. Hey, hey, give me your watch, give me your necklace. Get butt naked. And that's basically what they got them. They got him at gunpoint.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

It's just crazy, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

It's hard out here, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Bad. But, you know, oh, my goodness. But oh, well. New Ravens offensive coordinated Declan. Declan Doyle emphasized the importance of off season workout. He didn't single out any player, but probably didn't need to. We would expect players to be here and certainly it is voluntary, but if you want to say that you're going to win a championship, you want to say that you have championship standards. Those are the goals, those are the expectations. Certainly that's going to take work, that's going to take collaboration, and that's going to take the beginning of building of a relationship with their coaches and other players, starting the next regime on the right foot. Ocho, you're talking to.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I think he's talking to everybody because I think the conversation with. With what's his own name that looked

[Joe Johnson]

like he part of the shoddy.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah, Bashadi and Bashadi and Lamar already had that conversation about him being there in the off season and taking. Taking part in the off season program. So we already know he gonna show up. Now I think he wants to make sure everyone else is on ojo.

[Joe Johnson]

Stop that. You know, he's not talking to but one person. Everybody else Go. Which guy hasn't been there 7 of the last offseasons? Last 7 of the late offseasons. Which guy hadn't shown up?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Timeout. Time out. We talk about. We talk about the decorator.

[Joe Johnson]

No, we talk about the offensive coordinator.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

The officer coordinator ain't calling out Lamar Jackson, I can tell you that. Okay, I get. I guarantee you.

[Joe Johnson]

No, he didn't call.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

A new officer coordinator is not calling out the team franchise leader. Ocho, after you already had a conversation

[Joe Johnson]

with the owner, which.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

The same one who is up for contract extension.

[Joe Johnson]

He's not calling out which guy. I just answer.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Let me finish.

[Joe Johnson]

Let me finish.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Let me finish. You are not going to be the new officer coordinator and come in talking shit already and piss the man off. Now, you starting the relationship off on the wrong goddamn foot. He's not talking to Lamar. He's talking about. He talking to everybody.

[Joe Johnson]

Declan, we not finished, okay? He talking to everybody. Which guy has not been participating in the voluntary OTAs the last seven of the eight years?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I mean. I mean, Lamar has it, and I'm sure other people haven't as well.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, Joe, what do you think about that? Joe? So. Because now you're saying everybody is just as important as Lamar, but go ahead. Oh, Joe. Go ahead, finish off.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Listen, I'm catching. I'm catching up. I'm. I'm picking up what y' all putting down. You hear me?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I mean. Hey, I understand what you mean.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You saying. You saying it's the. You saying it's the offensive coordinator. You know, they talking about Lamar.

[Joe Johnson]

What you do is that you talk. You know who he's talking to. There's a lot of times that they would. They would talk. They would talk. They talking to the best player. But they're not act.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But they don't. Not there.

[Joe Johnson]

You go.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Indirectly.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah, No, I guarantee you, okay? I guarantee he not. I guarantee you. Because all it's going to do is piss him off.

[Joe Johnson]

Why is he going to piss him off? Ooh.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

What you mean, why it's gonna piss.

[Joe Johnson]

He hadn't been there.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

You. Not for you. Nothing to get no new job. And they get out here talking trash like that. Hit my line, if you need me there. I don't need you.

[Joe Johnson]

Why I gotta say I need you there? I gotta tell you, I need you there. Hold on. No.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

If he ain't been in the past seven, eight years talking to.

[Joe Johnson]

Thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you. That's what I needed you to say, right?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Talking to him. I guarantee you.

[Joe Johnson]

I did that joke.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Guarantee and you know what? I guarantee you not talking to him.

[Joe Johnson]

I did that joke.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Put a name on it.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all see how I did that right there?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hold on. Put a name on it. Put a name on it. Put a name on it. Because what's gonna happen is. What's going to happen is, is you're gonna piss him off. And this or this new coordinator that's coming in trying to. What. What precedent is he trying to set?

[Joe Johnson]

He said, hold on.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Calling out. What precedent? Let me finish. What precedent are you setting for calling out the starting fucking quarterback publicly? What are we doing? That's stupid.

[Joe Johnson]

We would expect players to be here, and certainly it is voluntary. But if you want to say that you're going to win a championship, you say you want to have championship standards, and those are your goals, your expectation. Certainly that's going to take some work, and it's going to take collaboration. So if the offensive coordinator collaborating with the defensive, is he coordinating with the. Is he coordinating with the wide receivers, the offensive line? Who is he in collaboration with? Ocho. You know I'm supposed to be a lawyer, right?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I could have been. I could have been one, too. And I guarantee he ain't talking to him. Guarantee that, and I guarantee he don't show up. You want.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You hold on.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

You want to get a new job? You want to be goddamn sporty trying to show off because you got a new job as an officer coordinator? And you call. Not your starting court, you're starting franchise quarterback. I guarantee he won't show up just to show you. I mean, but you. You don't do nothing like that coming in as a new coach. You don't do that.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Joe.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

You don't call. You don't call that.

[Joe Johnson]

It.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

It's dumb. It's stupid. Why would you piss off your quarterback with a message like that? What sense does that make?

[Joe Johnson]

What you missed at the point. Let me ask you this.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

There is no point. If you want Lamar to show up, you text Lamar, I want you. If this is what you're trying to do, if this is what you're trying to do, everybody. Let me finish. Everything he just said publicly, he could have said that to Lamar. If you want Lamar to show up, what are you proving? Saying it publicly. What are you doing? Who's it gonna piss off?

[Joe Johnson]

All I remember.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Tell me, who's it gonna piss off?

[Joe Johnson]

All I remember is a guy saying he wanted to win a championship more than anything. But I need to call you and ask you to show up. Interesting.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

So you go. So you go out publicly and you get a new job and you call out the franchise quarterback. That's gonna work out real well.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Come on.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm trying to figure out. Hold on. I'm trying to figure out. Let's go back. Let's go back and see what quarterback has won a championship that didn't participate in OTAs all those years except the last three years of Tom. Hold on.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

So you think.

[Joe Johnson]

Let me finish my point. Let me finish my point.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

So you think calling out your franchise quarterback is going to get you to the championship? Yeah. That's real. That's real smart. Good job. Good job. Officer. Coordinator. Let's call out the franchise quarterback.

[Joe Johnson]

Let me ask you a question. You think Sam Donald participated in OTAS last year?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Do you think Drake May participated in OTAs last year? Tell me, the quarterback that you don't think participated in OTAs, Ocho,

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

what does that have to do. What we talking about?

[Joe Johnson]

So you. So you know. So in other words, you just hold on.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Again, I'm. I'm gonna say it one more time because somebody. It seemed to be going in one ear and out the other. So calling out your franchise quarterback is the way to go about doing things when you want them to show up the OTAs?

[Joe Johnson]

Is that what you're saying, is he didn't single out nobody and you said

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

he's talking to Lamar Jackson, the person that hasn't showed up. So is that the way to go about doing it? Calling out your franchise quarterback publicly? How is that supposed to help anything outside of just pissing him off?

[Joe Johnson]

I tell you what, he gonna be more pissed if he go another year and don't get to the Super Bowl. The criticism's gonna grow louder and louder and louder and louder.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Okay, I got a question. He shows up the OTAs, and they'll make. And they'll go to the Super Bowl. Then what?

[Joe Johnson]

Ocho, we had this conversation. What, working hard and then what? This is a new system. This is a new system. He's been in that system before. Ocho, come on. What is it that you don't understand? Och know you don't call out your franchise quarterback. You said you were talking to him.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

You don't.

[Joe Johnson]

You said you weren't talking to him.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

No matter what, you don't do it. You don't do it. You gonna piss.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on. Hold on.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

You know that.

[Joe Johnson]

Did Belichick call out Brady?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

You're going to.

[Joe Johnson]

Did Belich call out Brady?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

You talk about. They won six Super Bowls together.

[Joe Johnson]

Five Super Bowls. What are you talking. He called out Tom Brady, who he won six Super Bowls with, but you mean to tell me Lamar Jackson can't get called out?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

So you really compare Lamar Jackson.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what I'm asking you. That's what I'm asking you. That's the point.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

No, listen. Let me finish. The new officer coordinator, who I don't even effing know, calls out the franchise quarterback, and you're comparing that to what? Look what Tom Brady and Bill Belichick did. Are you serious?

[Joe Johnson]

Asking you. Are you serious? I got it. Won six Super Bowls, got called out. But a guy that hadn't been to the super bowl, he can't get. He's above reproach.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

You know what? Don't worry about it, okay? I said we. We. What we're not going to do is we're not going to have common sense here because number one, you. Listen. Listen to me. Calling the rule. Number one, you never chastise your quarterback. That is the only coach, the only coach that has ever called out.

[Joe Johnson]

But you said you don't ch.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

He can let me finish. He can do. Why they had that relationship.

[Joe Johnson]

Relationship.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Relationship. Let me finish. They had the relationship to set the tone for everybody else. To let everybody else know it's an even playing field here.

[Joe Johnson]

Thank you. That's how you set the tone? That's how you say thank you. Oo you see, Joe, what I do?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Wait, you.

[Joe Johnson]

You see how I want you walking into the trap? You set the tone.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

What trap? They've won four or five Super Bowls. They haven't. What are we talking about?

[Joe Johnson]

Let me ask you a question.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Stop trying to compare.

[Joe Johnson]

Let me ask you a question.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

It's not.

[Joe Johnson]

Let me ask you a question. So do you think Coach Belichick called Tom Brady out before or after he won a Super Bowl?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

They had already won.

[Joe Johnson]

No, they did not. Stop it. Oo they had one for.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

It was 2011. What are you talking about?

[Joe Johnson]

I was told. I was told that he called him out from the beginning. So Tom Brady has never been above reproach. Go ask the other guys that played on the team.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Why are we talking about the Patriots? We're talking about the Baltimore Ravens and the new officer coordinator calling out his franchise quarterback publicly.

[Joe Johnson]

You. You said. Is that. That's how you set the tone? Coach Belichick was setting a tone. But now you don't want this coach to set a tone. What? What?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Tony? You said piss off.

[Joe Johnson]

Why are you pissing him off? He just asked if you want to win. You got standards. You Got to do things a certain way.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

You could text me that if you're talking to him. What sense are you making? What are you trying to prove? Saying it publicly? If you want Lamar there, you text Lamar and tell him, I would like you here for the off season because

[Joe Johnson]

we have a new plan.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

We haven't.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe. Your coaches ever call you and say they wanted you to be somewhere? Joe. Or you just did the right thing because you knew what was. It was important. Now you're saying you're not gonna let Joe talk?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

No.

[Joe Johnson]

So now it's the right thing.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Now it's the right thing.

[Joe Johnson]

So it's being, guess what else. Guess what else is voluntary being great?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

What?

[Joe Johnson]

That's voluntary, isn't it? Joke. Go ahead, Joe.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hold on. So Lamar's not great?

[Joe Johnson]

Is that. What are you saying?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Lamar's not great?

[Joe Johnson]

You're not gonna let Joe talk? You're not gonna let Joe talk?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

So Lamar is not great? The two time mvp' Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

You're not gonna let the man talk? Ocho, go ahead. Go ahead, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, look, anytime you have something voluntary and you show up, obviously, you know, coaches appreciate that. But not only that, like if he been doing the same thing over the past seven, eight years. Ojo, I think coach is trying to send a message, bro. Like in order for us to reach something that we've never had before, obviously we got to do something we've never done or hadn't been doing.

[Joe Johnson]

That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah. And you know what? I. I hope for the coach's sake, since he's setting the goddamn tone and goddamn in February, I hope they, I hope they end up in what, a goddamn super bowl next year. La. I hope the Ravens and goddamn LA next year. Since he want to come out, since he want to come out and be big and big badass, instead of just texting him, I would like you to be here for the all season program.

[Joe Johnson]

I would have thought that, you know, because it's reported now, I don't know if it's true that, that Lamar was a part of the hiring process now, I don't know. With the head coach now, I don't know if he's a part of the hiring process with the offensive coach coordinator, but normally normal. Normally. Normally when you have a new staff, even though it's voluntary, you show up because of the importance of it. It's a new system, both offensively and defensively. And your Best player. He sets the tone for everyone else. If your best player is there, everybody else will feel obligated and come and. And you get a head start on things.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey. Trying to develop that chemistry and continuity

[Joe Johnson]

early because it's a new system. You know, we've been. I've been through this with Wade Phillips. I've been through it with Mike. Came there and then when, obviously when I went to Baltimore with a new system, so I went for the OTAs, even though I didn't do a whole lot, but I was there, I thought it was important for my presence to be there.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Ocho, you ain't never had to switch systems like that. I'll see him.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah, but I mean, I was always the off season program.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Ocho, man, you got a little sandwich, man?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

God dang, man, you got these coaches coming here talking all that, man. Green ass, man, who you supposed to be trying to. Trying to. Trying to prove something. Trying to show off like you come in like you running some man just text me. Green ass, peanut head ass coach, man trying to show all. He trying to show up.

[Joe Johnson]

Trying to show up. Oh, yo, stalling out.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah. Trying to show off, man. All that, man. All that's unnecessary, man. Text me. You want. You want to see me?

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, you about to lose your voice. For what?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hey, come on. Look at that.

[Joe Johnson]

That's.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. No, no, no. You know, I like when we get into it like this. I know we got into it like this long time.

[Joe Johnson]

If the chat. The chat. They don't know, man. This man be calling me, talking about. I want to argue tonight. For what? This man. Text me, I want to argue tonight. I was like, we ain't got no topic to argue about.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I'm just saying I'm just as. As a player.

[Joe Johnson]

As.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

As a player. Like, I mean, to just unnecessary, you know, You're a new coach. You're coming in. I understand you want to set the tone. You. You. You want to. You want to establish yourself as. As an offensive coordinator, but there's no need to say what you said publicly. You know, that conversation is something that's to be had with Lamar Jackson. When you say something like that to the player that hasn't been there, you know, seven of the last eight years. I mean, why are you even calling me out? You know, you know how. You already know how players are, and this ain't really. If it's any player, you know, and you hear your coach say that, well, God damn, you could have just. You could have hit my line, you know, it's always like. I mean, I. I just think it's green. No. No disrespect to Coach, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Like, hey, you call the man peanut. You don't talk about. You don't got. No disrespect.

[Commercial Announcer]

I'm not.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I'm not really talking to him. I'm just referencing his act and what he said publicly, that's all. I'm sorry. I apologize, Chad. I'm sorry. You got me worked up, Jojo. I don't never get. I don't never get like this.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I know, man. Got my man blood pressure up high and everything.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I'm sweating, man. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Hey, remember the lady? The last time me and Unc was like this joke, we would talk about boots and Boots, and. Remember we was talking about boots? And he would tell me to pick between one or the other boy. Joe, no Boots and Terence Crawford. How about you? Can't you get. He was telling me, man, you got

[Joe Johnson]

to pick one or the other.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Booze, Cole. I like boots. Ocho.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hey, Joe boy. We were going at it, boy, look, and now that was a long.

[Joe Johnson]

That was a long time ago that he get passionate about. He just gloss over. But once I see what I know would get going. Let me finish my point. Okay, go ahead. I thought you were done. You got another point to make.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

My bad, My bad. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

[Joe Johnson]

Chat.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Now.

[Joe Johnson]

I just think that. I just think the thing is, is that if. If what was reported is true, that the kind of. The relationship with Monk and Lamar had kind of deteriorated, I think he's going to look at this as a breath of fresh air. Give him an opportunity to get there. Because no matter what you think, especially when you dealing with Lamar, he's the table setter. He's the guy that everybody's looking to. And when he's there, all is right in the world. In Baltimore, in raven country, Ravens flock, all is right. When you. When your franchise quarterback is there, like, okay, we're gonna be all right. We gonna be all right.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe, what's up?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

When Lamar Jackson won those two MVPs, he wasn't there in the off season.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, the first one, he was. He. He was there.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, ain't he up? Is he up? Is he up for.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Oh, hey, ain't nobody no being up.

[Joe Johnson]

He's.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

He's. He's getting his contract done this offseason. They redoing it for sure.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they redoing it his cap number too high. You got, you got to lower that cap number and you got to take care of it because he's outperformed the contract that he signed. And normally with quarterbacks, when you outperform the contract, he's, you know, he's well on his way to being the best. The best player right now, I still

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

think that's Ray,

[Joe Johnson]

but I think when it's.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. You heard that? You heard what? I'm just saying.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What's that?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Best player. He outperformed last. You know what? He outperformed his contract. You know, he wasn't in the off season program last year either.

[Joe Johnson]

And guess what? He wasn't in offseason. He wasn't in the super bowl either.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

What? Hey, neither were the Broncos.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I'm just saying.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I know. Hey, hey, I'm.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm just saying, you know, this. Quarterbacks wins matter. Super bowl matters. Yeah. You know, you can say, well, he did this, he did that super bowl matter. Lamar Jackson gets a Super Bowl.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Oh, it's a rap. That monkey off his back. He can, he can play the rest of his career in cruise control.

[Joe Johnson]

He get to the super bowl, he might win another two MVPs.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Because now. Because there is. Because he wanted. Oh, man. You ever wanted something so bad, Joe? You want that thing, Ocho, you know, you want this thing so bad.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And you're so close. And it seems like as the time goes back, you know, having a conversation with John, he's like, man, he went to the last Super bowl in 89. And then we didn't go back like, damn. Because you think about it, he went to three in his first six years. First seven years, he goes to three Super Bowls, he didn't win them. And then there was a stretch. So we don't go in 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95. So that's six years. He had never gone that long without reaching the Super Bowl. So as time starts, you're like, damn, Danny Marino goes in the second year. Oo, he plays 16 years, so for the next 14 years, he never goes back. And then you run, you like, damn, am I ever gonna get this opportunity again? He just needs one.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's why you get.

[Joe Johnson]

He gets one. I feel if he gets one, he'll win two more MVPs. Because now he really gets to play free. He really gets to play loose, I think, you know, look, and he's a phenomenal talent. But when you get those early, I mean, look at Brady. Brady Played with house money. Yeah, my homeboy playing with house money. You get those early. What. How you. What. What you gonna say? My homeboy got three in his first nine years. First eight years as a starter, he's gone to five. Brady in his first. His first five years, he had three Super Bowls, two MVPs. I'm free. Y' all can't tell me nothing. I just think the thing is that I just. I. I just. I just want him to get there. I just want him to get to. I want to see Lamar Jackson on the biggest stage. We've, for the most part, we've always seen our greatest quarterbacks. Be it Elway, Marino, Kelly, Favre, Rogers, Brady, Montana, Manning. We've seen our best on that biggest stage. Now, they didn't always win, Ocho, but we've seen them on that stage. We got to see Lamar on that stage. Stage. Just one time. Just wait a. Like Luther Vandross say, if only for one night.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

For one night.

[Joe Johnson]

If only for one night. I gotta see that man on the stage. I got to see him. I would love to see. Hey, if I don't see him in la, hell, I go see him in Atlanta. I might. Hey, I might have to go see him in Atlanta.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, he's special.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Special.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I want to see him in that big game too, Uncle. No, Joe. I'm gonna see him show up and show out.

[Joe Johnson]

Let me think about it, Ocho. We don't see Purdy in the Super Bowl. I mean, we've seen some quarter. I mean, we've seen some quarterbacks that not nearly as talented. Yeah, as Lamar. He too talented not to get there at least once. I don't know what's going to happen, but I want to see him get there. And then I'll say, hey, whatever happens after that, he was phenomenal. He didn't have his best stuff. Blah, blah, whatever the case may be. But I just need to see him one time in the big dance. I see him in the big. Dad. I say, Ocho, man, hey, he got there, he didn't go his way, but. Oh, well,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

damn that man. I want to see. Damn cow.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hey. Hey, Joe, what's up? I'm be honest with you. It's a good chance the Cowboys can be there. Boy, you know how if you play magic.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Come on, come on, come on. I'm here telling you I would. I ain't said nothing about your Bengals. I ain't even got on yet. You see how you act.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Oh, no, why don't get on us. Why you gonna get on us. I'm just saying if you want to see the Cowboys in the. You know, in the Super Bowl, I mean, just play Madden.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, you see what I'm saying? Okay. Okay.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

No disrespect.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, all disrespect. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I think it's Declan. Declan. Dean, what are the chat you talking about? Doyle. Declan. Declan Doyle. Declan Doyle. So I guess.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hello, man.

[Joe Johnson]

When is the March? Well, it's got to be free agency, so it's got to be, well, like April. The first one minicamp is OTA is in April. Cause, you know, with a new system, you get three. Get three.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Okay, three. Three. Three mini camps. Okay. Okay. Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

With a new m. What did you say, Ash? Do we know when it is?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Well, the off season program start in April, or is it March and they start early?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, when the draft?

[Joe Johnson]

In May. Last week in April. When is it, Ash? Last week in April.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Where the draft at this year? Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Pittsburgh. So. But you did you have a workout bonus, incentive workout bonuses in your contract, Ocho.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, well, what was that? So what you had to do? Ojo?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah, 13 weeks. I mean, I would make an all anyway. I mean, you know, honestly, if I didn't have that incentive, I still would have been. I would have been there anyway to work out with Carson.

[Joe Johnson]

You know why I didn't come? Because they know I like to work out. See if they know you like to do something. Ocho, guess what? They don't incentivize it. People that they don't know like to work out. They put a hundred thousand, quarter of a million, 500,000 in their contract. They want to give me 50 a day.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

You good? Huh? Oh, no, yeah, it was. It was a night. It was a nice.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I know.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I know.

[Joe Johnson]

I had teammates that had 150, 250, 500,000. But Joe.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah, mine, mine was 500,000, man.

[Joe Johnson]

We can't give him that. He love to work out.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

So we just giving away money, right?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

That was fun.

[Joe Johnson]

But, you know, Mike, and Mike told him, Mike says, I don't want. I don't want Shannon here. Shannon cannot get in shape. 84 cannot get in shape doing our thing like he can get in shape doing his own. But I don't trust y' all like I trust him, right? So I was. Hey, I was out of there. Hey, y' all let me know what. Hey, when the camps. I come to that camp. You know, we had a. A three day camp and then we had, you know. You have a three day camp. Mini camp, Ocho. Then you have a week mini camp. So you come in, you get what, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, you up out of there Saturday afternoon or whenever you leave. And then you have that week, you come in on a Monday and you know if you, everything go good, they'll let you off Thursday at noon.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Boom.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So that's. Damn, Ocho.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

What happened?

[Joe Johnson]

The Kansas City Chiefs restructured Patrick Mahomes contract this week, lowering his cap number from 78.2 million to 34.65 million for the upcoming season, creating 43 and a half million dollar cap space. I think they do that with Chris Jones also. I'm not, I, I would not be surprised, Ocho, if they didn't trade McDuffie

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

and get to get the, get the value for him. Yeah, he's easy. Definitely gonna be a hot commodity.

[Joe Johnson]

They're gonna be a hot commodity. I don't know if you saw, but did you see that they're speculating that Denzel Ward might be okay post June 1st casually.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, so what you, what y' all think Kansas City need?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, they need wide receivers. They need a wide receiver, they need a rusher,

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

some. Somebody to pair with Chris.

[Joe Johnson]

They need a damn running back.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hey, if, if Kansas City had a running back, Joe, like somebody that's. I'm not just talking about a running back. I'm talking about a running back.

[Joe Johnson]

All you gotta do is give me. Can he give him one 100 yards? Saquon, if they had a Javante Williams. I'm not saying you need a Derrick Henry or Jonathan Taylor or James Cook or say just a guy that can give them 1100 yards. That's all they needed.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

And at some point, I mean, I

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

want, I, I want him, I want them. I'm just saying I want them. But I would love for them to have a game changer though on somebody like a Jamal Charles once again that can hit his head off the goal post from anywhere that it opens up everything else for everybody else, especially Mahomes and that offense because they really haven't had any like that. It's more of a, you know, dink and dunk two, three yards here. And Mahomes happen to be Superman all the goddamn time. Give me someone that takes the pressure off the passing game and my goddamn quarterback for a change.

[Joe Johnson]

I think the thing is, Ocho, you know what happens is that when you get a guy like a Patrick Mahomes, you're like, man, we don't, we don't. We, we just, we need a average to below average guy. And he'll make him great, right?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I mean, and that's how they did Brady.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, with the exception of what, Corey Dillon. They weren't really trying to give him. No do. I mean, they getting guys off the trap. He, the trash heat. They, you know, they go get Legarit Blunt after Tampa let him go.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Cody Belichick said, you know what a guy that can run with power, you know, he can grind out the clock if we got a close game. But when you have great, they don't really be trying to help you a whole bunch, especially at the running back position. Yeah, but I, but I, I, I, I like this move. I think Chris Jones is going to be gonna save them some money. Me personally, I would try to move Karloftus. Yeah. The kind of money that you pay to want your.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Okay, okay, okay, I see what you mean. Hold on. Hey, listen, you said something that, that almost. It disturbed me a little bit. You think Denzel Ward gonna be gone?

[Joe Johnson]

No, I don't, I don't think he is, but that's what I mean. I saw, I read a report that somebody reported that. Hell no, I, I don't. Look, he probably like, yeah, let me go because I signed that contract. I was the highest paid. I was the highest paid for like a day. Look at all the guys that don't pass me. So I'm not so sure he would be disappointed because he would be.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Moved to the front of the line as far as highest PA way.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Exactly, exactly. Definitely.

[Joe Johnson]

But, but 78 to 34. So you do Chris Jones, you, you restructure Chris Jones. They got, they got them. Lineman Juwan, the right tackle, he gone.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah, he out of there. Joe, Joe Tuney. Joe Tun.

[Joe Johnson]

They remember they traded him.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

He's in Chicago.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Creed Humphrey will be back. I like the left tackle that, you know, he has to.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah, I like, I like, I like

[Joe Johnson]

Creed for the center. The left tackle, Simmons that they got, he's going to be really good. He's coming off an acl.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

The young boy.

[Joe Johnson]

I like him. Obviously. Trey, Trey Smith, we had him on at Nightcap of Radio Row. He'll be back. He's a premier left right guard. But they, they gotta, they gotta do, they got to do a better job. They gotta do a better job protecting Mahomes because he's coming off a serious injury. Ocho and the last day. You can't let him get hit like he got hit over the last three years.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

ACL tears and so it's gonna Be hard to come back. And he wasn't. I mean, he. He could scoot a little bit, but with an ACL tear, that's gonna be tough.

[Joe Johnson]

And. But the thing is, you know what, Ocho, if you remember, they don't. They don't let him remember. He would hurt his knee doing the quarterbacks. Nick in Denver, he's never run a quarterback.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Like into like a tush push, like a conventional. Now he's right into it. They fake the run and they boot or something like that, but just run into the pile. He's never done that again. Yeah, yeah. Same thing with Peyton Manning. You remember ever since Peyton Manning hurt his neck, they never. Quarterback sneak.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hurt his neck.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

The Florida Senate passed the Teddy Bridgewater Act. The bridge would allow middle school and high school coaches to use up to $15,000 of their own funds to support student athletes with food, transportation, and recovery services. I like it.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

That's dope. That's live.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I don't know. I don't know why they would ever have a problem with that in the first place. That never made sense to me.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I mean, man, it was ridiculous, especially what happened. It was ridiculous what happened at Miami Northwestern, man. Teddy, you know, being able to help those kids, man, with rides and food and. And. And clothes, that was crazy.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They won a championship, too, didn't they, Ojo?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

His first year back.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Sure did.

[Joe Johnson]

And they lost it. They lost. I think they lost the reigns or reball this year in the championship game in Jacksonville. All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A. Ojo, you want to sing?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, don't worry about it. We ain't got no song. All right. First with slippery G, Mr. ISO, the best athlete on Nightcap and stuff. Still and still.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, I appreciate that, my boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Come on, now. Come on. Come on, now.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Y' all gota chill. Yeah, you all gotta chill.

[Joe Johnson]

This. This is what the people want.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Y' all gotta chill.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I know, but sometime the people. Sometimes people lie.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

No, they don't lie, though.

[Joe Johnson]

Joe, man, come on. You don't need to do that.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, look, from what they ey seen, okay? Oo. They was like, woo. But

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

they just said. They just said you the best athlete on Nightcap, and that's not true, Joe. That's a lot.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, Joe. What the people saying, baby, we can't. Hey, we have to set our differences next time I see y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

But for right now, this is. This is where we at.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I'm gonna let you. I'll let you have your moment.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

Thank you.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Thank you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Thank you.

[Joe Johnson]

Thank you, Lee. Basically Ugly Ocho behind. Must be all the bruised up from the BTA King puts on them. Hello, boy. Hey.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

He acting different.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey. I told y' all chat messing with your boy.

[Joe Johnson]

Eric Jordan Scott ISO is auff the truth. I like Fleming, personally.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I like Fleming, too. I like auff, man. Just from watching play, obviously. If you seen the game last night, he had 49. Okay. Oo and double overtime in Alabama. We only had seven players, bro. He put the team on his back. Like, I think with the explosion that he plays with, the way he get guys involved. And for me, the most impressive thing is how he shoot the three. He's shooting the three ball with great regularity. And he just look unstoppable. Every time he touched the ball, it's like something good happens. Even if he don't score, he gets an assist or he sets somebody up that sets another person up, whether it's the hockey assistant. To me, I think he a top five talent. Like. Like I say, man, this draft gonna be loaded. It's gonna be some. It's gonna be some cats coming out. This got. Coming out this thing with chips on their shoulders for sure.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hey. Hey, Joe, how old is young boy that went crazy the other night for Arkansas? How tall is he?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

He about six, two, six, three. But he got. He got that build on. He got like that little stocky, like. Little stocky, right? He tough, Ocho. He. He from Detroit. He tough. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I got no chill Nightcap outside. More like the ISO BTA Invitational. Hello.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, listen, y' all can't follow Uncle Ocho, man. They know what they were getting into.

[Joe Johnson]

They.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They know. They know. They let this animal out the cage, and, boy, listen, they can't calm him down, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. Your day coming.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Okay?

[Joe Johnson]

Dr. Frank L. Bellamy. Joe, you may not be in the basketball hall of Fame yet, but you're definitely in the bowling hall of Fame. Uncle Nocho, what happened? He got us. You know, My, my, my, my, my. My. My. My hip started aching. My knees started bothering me, and it just, like. I just went downhill. I went downhill.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, look, this all. All you have to do. It's just. Man, I lost to a better player.

[Joe Johnson]

I did not do. I don't feel like. I don't feel I did that. But next time, we're gonna go back and I'm gonna have my own ball, my own shoes. Cause those balls were too light.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I'M just saying. I'm just saying that day, I was better than y', all, okay?

[Joe Johnson]

You got you better than us that day.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I mean, hey, Joe, there's nothing you can beat me in. I just never. I never bowled before.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, man. That's the only thing we did today. Ain't the only thing we did.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I never played golf before, either. Like, I. I never have.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

You ain't never threw a Frisbee, but you ain't never played cornhole? You got a lot of excuses, bro.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I couldn't. I couldn't afford no Frisbee when I was growing up, Joe.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, man, chill. You got to stop it. I ain't Frisbee with 99 cent. Back in the day at the Little Joe.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I ain't even have 99 cent, Joe. I ain't even have shoes to go to school in. I wore flip flops. How may get a Frisbee? Come on, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

What are y'. All scouting report on each other? Joe be talking ish.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Nah, nah. I see, I had to sit back. I. I had to wait my. I had to check y' all out, see what y' all got going. Once I assessed the whole situation, I knew right away. I said, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got these, boy. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

They. They. They.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They be on nightcap, big capping, selling wolf tickets. Ain't nobody buying them because I damn sure ain't buying them.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I. I was. I wasn't even dressed appropriately, so I would dress for a date.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's your fault, bro.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I would. I would dress for a date because when we finished, I was going to dinner, so I. I was. I was kind of uncomfortable. I couldn't. I couldn't bowl. I couldn't throw anything right because I was constricted. But I. I got you.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Next time, Chad don't want to hear all that. That what I'm trying to tell you, man.

[Joe Johnson]

All the m. I got my own ball, my own shoes. I right. I'm gonna get the hips all warmed up.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want y'.

[Joe Johnson]

All.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I want y' all to remember now, I was only about 65. I wasn't 100, fellas.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I was 50.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Okay, I'll just let y' all know. I want y' all to be well.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

All right?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't matter. King pain 21 ISO for another BTA dub. What do the Ravens have to trade to get Crosby? Lamar needs a big wide receiver to throw the ball to as well. Not just big tight ends, likely to the Chiefs. I think, like me personally, I would like Likely to the. The commanders to give Jalen to give Jaden Daniels a target.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Jaden Daniels target.

[Joe Johnson]

I like to see them going to get another receiver. Also, they say they want. They look, they said the reports are two first riders and a. A player. You know, I don't know who they. Who they got offensively other than Lamar, and you're not getting Lamar, so that's off the table. And plus you take it a quarterback. With that being said, Ocho, who they want on defense, I don't think. I think Kyle Hamilton is off limits to them. Yeah, but you probably could have anybody else if you wanted it. But I'm not sure the Raiders want anybody else on that defense.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah, yeah, I think everybody is off limits except. Except Kyle. But I, I just don't see the. The. The. The exchange in value. Well, I mean, man, how many play. How many. How many teams can you trade for where you can get the value equivalent to Matt Crosby? I mean, you. You just can't even. Even if you get two first round picks, those two first round picks might not equate to Mac what Matt Crosby's been for for you anyway. You never know. It's. Sometimes it's hit or miss.

[Joe Johnson]

What you do with those picks. You look at what Seattle did with the picks that they got for Russell Wilson.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Right.

[Joe Johnson]

Devon Witherspoon. I say they did okay with that.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah. For every situation like that laid those

[Joe Johnson]

draft picks in, you say, okay, how you headed out the park. You look at what the Houston Texans did with those draft picks they got for DeShawn Watson. You say they hit it out, they really got it, and that's what matters. It does not matter. Oh, they got three first rounders and they got this. Well, if you miss on all of. What the hell does that mean?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah, you got to hope. You got to hope they pan out.

[Joe Johnson]

There you go.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

You got to hope they pan.

[Joe Johnson]

It's Maddie. 22:15 chat. What's gonna happen more tonight? Unc mentioning Clint Kubiak's dad was his OC or Ocho shadow boxing all hell king ISO talk your ish. Nah, we moving on past. Hello, Trio Brown, y'. All. Y' all go get more laughs from Nightcap outside than a comedy special. Great watch. Appreciate that. See, I'll be trying. I'll be trying to. You know what? Oh, yo, we just got to go back to being how we were. Cause, you know, we tried to be chill. We tried to chill.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah. I, I was chilling like. Like I'm. He just came out of nowhere just talking Trash chilling.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

This man rolling all on the ground and everything. He talking about,

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

oh, oh, oh.

[Joe Johnson]

I was just chilling. I was just laying my. My hips and my back was hurting, so I was just laying on. Laying on the lane.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Ain't no chilling. ISO, baby. All 20, 26 is going down.

[Joe Johnson]

BTA.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Keep that. Hey. Keep that same energy. Keep that same energy.

[Joe Johnson]

Brandon Martinez says invite someone else to play. OO keeps losing.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

What?

[Joe Johnson]

I lost in all the events that we did.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I didn't. You lost in Boulder, huh?

[Joe Johnson]

We split. I came in second. Joe won. Joe won both rounds. But the first round, I came in second. You came in last. The next one, you came in second. I came in last. But you ain't win no event.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

And two is not a winner. And three, nobody remembers. We know this.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah, we talk about you. He ain't talking about me.

[Joe Johnson]

First of all, I won two events. I did. Joe won three events, so Joe won. Oh, Joe, you didn't even come close to

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

was a good sparring match. I appreciate, you know, the challenge that y' all brung amongst me.

[Joe Johnson]

Like.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

I appreciate that because they keep me sharp. You know what I'm saying? You make me have to lock in. Keep me sharp. I appreciate that, man. So. All right, y' all a hand. I want to give you an uncle hand. Oh, Joe hand right now, man. I appreciate that.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I appreciate it. I appreciate that, Joe. I appreciate that.

[Joe Johnson]

Your day coming.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

But, hey, I. I know. I know. Next time, I'm gonna be in my. I'm gonna be in my play clothes.

[Joe Johnson]

Big underscore. Sarge. Underscore Brooks. Where's ISO? Joe's emoji. Use the ISO with the crown.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

There you go.

[Joe Johnson]

Emoji.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

What's wrong with y'?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

All?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Why y' all got. Listen, when the people anoint you, bro, you got you. You can't do nothing about that.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on now, J. Buddy. 5. Who was more dominant, Julius Peppers or Jason Taylor? I didn't play against. I was. Hold on. What year did Pep get into the league? 2002.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

1. Was it 01? 01 or 02?

[Joe Johnson]

He was 02. Cause because I think Jack Del Rio was his first odc,

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Man. Pep.

[Joe Johnson]

I'll probably say Pep. I ain't never seen a man that big can move that. Be that agile.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ocho, man, that boy was a hell of an athlete. I'm talking about when I used to watch him play for Carolina on the basketball court.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, I. You. You. You're not gonna See a guy his size, you talk about six six, 285. Could move. Moving like that jump could cover backside of the backfield, run with a tight end up the scene. Could speed rush. Could be it.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah, he would. He was different.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Brandon Martinez, 5657. The double champ does what? What the f he wants. Somebody give the people what they want by the ojs. Price. These women out here trifling. Damn, Bryce, what happened? JJ Carver, 80 said bold like he scared slipping, skipping rocks. Look, man, I told you my hips, man, but I'm. Look, I'm going to get an mri. I'm a knee bother me now. My knee ain't been the same. I got next. Why prime ain't been on yet this year? Prime got a lot going on. Plus he got his sons to worry about. He got his basketball. He got his own show he got going on. Prime got some stuff going on, man, but we'll. We'll see if we can get prime back on here. Terry Bullet said, hey, nightcap fam. Come to Eonton, Georgia, to the Lake Oconee and get some good fish out there. Yes, I know. I'm trying to think. What's the. They got a. What you call them out there? I think they got a four seasons of the Ritz Carlins out there. We're at, you know, Lake Oconee and they bite.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

They biting out there, huh?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I don't know where that's at. Lake Oconee. Oh, okay, okay, okay.

[Joe Johnson]

You know Motor 3 sector. The franchise quarterback is being paid to handle his scandal. What the f. I don't get what this is. Who franchise quarterback handle playing a Paid to handle his scandal. I don't know what that is, bro. Mashburn 525. UNC1. Ocho 1 in bowling. Finished the series for second place. Nah, I'm winning finish no second place. B. Knicks Underscore sports. Detroit basketball. Laportier cigars. Yeah. Yeah. We gonna celebrate. Aaron Owens.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Seed should the Miami Redhawks get if they finish undefeated? Probably be. Probably be a 6 seed. What you thinking, hyper king? I got two words for y'. All. Detroit basketball. Love. You know, Vonte Lewis. Let them know. And it is ISO Team 501.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

That's home team right there, baby. Y' all know what's going on.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

You feeling good, huh?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Yeah. You see Little Rock in the building? Stop playing, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Feeling good. Hey, yeah. Joe. Who's the toughest player you had to guard?

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Ocho, the toughest player I had to guard, Man, I'M gonna have to say the hardest guys I know, obviously. LeBron, Kobe, Nim. But the hardest cast of guard, bro, were guys like Rip Hamilton, Ray Allen.

[Joe Johnson]

All they did was run.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Cause them jokers never stop. Like, you gotta fight over four, five picks before you. Before you can even contest the shot. And on top of that, this every play. So then you gotta go down and go at them. Offensively, that's the hardest. That's the hardest thing. Like when I was a rookie coming into the NBA, that was the hardest thing you had to learn. It's called lock and trail. You had to learn lock and trail. Your guy, stay on his heels. That's the hardest thing by far. Cause you shadowing a dude, trying to keep up with him juking and, man, that's almost impossible to guard. That's the hardest thing to guard, bro. Those guys, Rip Hamilton, Ray Allen, Reggie Miller, them guys who never stopped moving. It's the hardest to guard.

[Joe Johnson]

For the number one seed in the. In the Eastern Conference with a 41 and 13 record. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle. My partner and co host. That is the Bingo Ring of Fame honoree, a former Pro Bowler at an All Pro, that is Chad Ochocinko Johnson. And the third member of the Big Three that did not stop gloating tonight from the University of Arkansas, Little Rock, Arkansas native ISO, Joe Johnson. Joe, thanks for joining us, man.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Appreciate y', all, man.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Hey, I'm gay. Huh?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, Joe, what's up?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

I'm going to Raleigh tomorrow.

[Joe Johnson]

Do what?

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

All right, I'm going. Andrea Pacelli has.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, you told us that. You told us that.

[Uncle (nickname, possibly a close friend or co-host)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I come right back Saturday morning. I'm just going to. Going to Raleigh to watch the concert.

[Joe Johnson]

Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button. And do us a favor, go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you, guys. Thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support. Those looking to purchase a bottle of shade by Laportier, head over to laportiercognac.com to order you a bottle. If you cannot find any state or city near you, it is the best tasting, smoothest VSOP cognac on the market. We have the OG, which is the 750, but now we have the Junior, which is the 375. Same great quality, same great taste, the same smoothness. Please direct responsibly and be safe. Thank you guys for joining us. We're off tomorrow night, which is Friday, but we're back Saturday to have the fight Ryan Garcia takes on Mario Barrios. So thank you guys for joining us. We'll see you on Saturday. Appreciate that, Joe. We'll holler next week, bro.

[Chad Ochocinco Johnson]

Appreciate y'. All. He's out.

[Joe Johnson]

Sa.

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