Nightcap Hour 2: Wemby CLOSE to MISSING out on AWARDS + Chicago Bulls FIRE VP of Basketball & GM + Angel Reese TRADED to the Atlanta DREAM + Shaq REVEALS his Mt. Rushmore

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 2 (April 7, 2026)

Host: Uncle Ocho (Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson)
Co-Host: Joe (Uncle Ocho’s friend, sports analyst)
Producer: Shay Shay Media & Playmaker

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Overview

In this episode of Club Shay Shay, "Nightcap Hour 2," Uncle Ocho and Joe dive into the latest NBA and WNBA headlines, including Victor Wembanyama’s race against eligibility for end-of-season awards, the Chicago Bulls’ front-office shakeup, Angel Reese’s blockbuster trade to Atlanta, and Shaquille O’Neal revealing his all-time NBA Mount Rushmore. The tone is lively, humorous, and candid, with the hosts blending sports analysis with barbershop banter and personal anecdotes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Victor Wembanyama’s Injury & Awards Eligibility

[02:58–08:24]

• Wemby’s Injury: Victor Wembanyama was ruled out for the second half against Philly with a left rib contusion, having played only 15 minutes.
• Awards Rule: New NBA eligibility rules require Wemby to play at least 20 minutes in one of San Antonio’s last three games to qualify for Defensive Player of the Year and MVP consideration.

  "He has to play at least 20 minutes in one game in order to be eligible for the postseason awards." – Uncle Ocho (03:38)

• On San Antonio’s Depth: The Spurs were praised for their depth and defensive edge, with multiple players scoring in double figures and “six guys in double figures, three of them off the bench.”
• Philly’s Struggles: Philly’s inconsistency attributed to Embiid’s availability:

  “It's hard for [Maxey] to kind of gauge the game playing with Paul George and Embiid… I like to see [Edgecomb] and Maxey out there willing, dealing, doing their thing.” – Joe (04:20)

• Rising Rookies & Team Chemistry: Dylan Harper, San Antonio rookie, gets props for impactful minutes that would be rare on another team.
• Defensive Impact of Wemby:

  “Obviously they got Wimby back there with them two broomsticks he holding up, they call arms... You can't block that shot. You hope he miss it.” – Uncle Ocho (05:26, 07:28)

• Statistical Feats: Wemby’s three straight 30/15/3-block games tie Shaq’s 1999 streak (07:50–08:15).

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2. Chicago Bulls Fire VP & GM

[13:15–16:51]

• Front Office Fired: Bulls part with Executive VP Arturas Karnisovas and GM Mark Eversley after poor results (224–254 over 6 seasons).
• Failed Promises and Roster Moves:
  • Only one playoff appearance (2021–22), quick exit.
  • Trading away Vucevic is heavily questioned:

    “You trade a guy that was giving you what, 18-and-probably-18-and-9. 18 and 10.” – Uncle Ocho (15:32)

• Youth Movement: Praises for Kobe White (now excelling in Charlotte), discussion about Bulls tanking for top draft picks.
• Draft Prospects:
  • AJ Dybansa favored as #1 overall pick, possibly to Utah.
  • Peterson’s mental makeup (love for the game) debated:

    “How much does he love playing? …You have to really love and enjoy what you do. NBA is a lot different from college.” – Joe (16:56)

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3. WNBA Bombshell: Angel Reese Traded to Atlanta Dream

[33:48–37:27]

• The Trade: Angel Reese (2x WNBA All-Star) dealt to Atlanta for two first-round picks.
• Historic Stats: Reese is the only WNBA player ever to average at least 12 rebounds per game in consecutive seasons.
• Immediate Impact:
  • “Angel is the only WNBA player in history to average at least 12 rebounds per game in a season, which she did in 2024 and 2025. Angels DREAM jersey sold out fast – not even her mom was able to get one!” – Uncle Ocho (33:48)
• Nickname: Lisa Leslie crowns her “ATL Peach Barbie.”
• Cultural Fit:

  "Hell, yeah, she a perfect fit… This is black Hollywood, brother. Yep. They gonna embrace her and everything that she does." – Joe (34:23)

• Dream’s Core: Ryan Howard, potential with Brittney Griner, and Reese spark optimism.
• Community Influence: Resonates with young fans, including Joe’s daughter.
• Hosts’ Banter: Lively jokes about game-day experiences and social scene at Dream games, blending club vibes with sports family atmosphere.

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4. Shaq Reveals His NBA Mount Rushmore

[54:39–57:12]

• Shaq’s Picks: Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Stephen Curry.
• Hosts React:
  • Ocho: “He ain’t got no Magic, no Bird, no Russell, no Kareem. No Will…Shaq got all modern players.”
  • Joe highlights that as “kind of rare, too, because you know, he a little older, and you would think he would at least throw in one old [player].”
• Debate About Bigs: Shaq’s omission of big men noted (“He ain't giving no bigs no credit now unless you Yokage. Outside of that, he ain't giving no big no credit.” – Joe, 56:08).
• Personal Rushmores:
  • Joe’s picks: “Jordan, Kobe, T-Mac, Penny Hardaway.” (56:14, 56:38)
  • Explains preference for “big guards…guys who had great playmaking skills and could score.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Wemby’s Must-Play Situation:
  “So he has to play 20 minutes in one game. It can't be 20 minutes total in all three. It has to be one game.” – Uncle Ocho (03:40)
• On San Antonio’s Defensive Intimidation:
  “You got Wimby, who’s a great bailout…He can get on the block. He get 10, 15 feet – you can't block that shot.” – Uncle Ocho (07:28)
• On Chicago’s Draft Hopes:
  “They better hope the ping pong ball land on them.” – Uncle Ocho (16:07)
• Angel Reese’s Branding Power:
  “Angel is the only WNBA player in history to average at least 12 rebounds per game in a season… Angel's DREAM jersey sold out fast. Not even her mom was able to get one.” – Uncle Ocho (33:48)
• On the True Signs of Loving the Game:
  “Do they train like they love the game? Do they do the thing necessary to make you think they love the game outside of playing the game?” – Uncle Ocho (17:42)
• On Personal & High-School Stories:
  “Some of the best times of my life…was in high school, bro.” – Joe (28:01) “There ain’t no way I could have survived with social media now in high school with this.” – Uncle Ocho (28:30)
• On Cursing and Emotion in Sports:
  “Curse words is nothing but the seasoning. And it adds flavor to what you’re trying to get across. That’s all.” – Joe (49:54)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Topic | |------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:58 | Spurs-Philly wrapup; Wembanyama’s injury & awards eligibility | | 05:46 | On San Antonio’s defensive depth and team makeup | | 07:50 | Wemby’s statistical streak, comparison to Shaq | | 13:15 | Chicago Bulls’ front office shakeup and postmortem | | 16:32 | Draft class analysis: Dybansa v. Peterson, “love for the game” discussion | | 33:48 | Angel Reese traded to Atlanta Dream – stats, cultural impact, host reactions | | 54:39 | Shaq’s NBA Mount Rushmore & hosts’ takes | | 56:14 | Joe’s personal Mount Rushmore | | 49:54 | Curse words as “sentence enhancers” in sports talk |

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Tone & Flow

• Authentic, conversational, and candid—with the flavor of a barbershop sports debate.
• Generous mix of hard analysis, deep fandom, lively jokes, and nostalgic stories (especially about high school, personal life, and sports values).
• Hosts challenge and riff off one another, keeping it unscripted yet insightful.

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Conclusion

This Nightcap Hour is as much about basketball insight as it is about the culture, the personalities, and what it means to truly be a fan and a competitor—on and off the court. From Wemby’s award eligibility drama to Angel Reese’s Atlanta homecoming and the eternal debate over the NBA’s Mount Rushmore, Ocho and Joe keep things real, funny, and relatable.

For listeners and hoop fans, this episode is a blend of sharp sports talk, brotherly ribbing, and a little life wisdom—a great way to catch up on all that's buzzing in pro basketball.

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[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

San Antonio beat Philly 115 to 102. Stefan Castle, 17 points, 13 assists, 10 rebounds. Philly lost his second straight at his battles to stay out of the play in tournament. The Sixers are the half game behind the raptors for the 66 seed in the Eastern Conference. The spurs ruled out Victor Wimanyama for the second half after the left rib contusion. A favorite to win the defensive player of the year and contender for MVP needs to play at least 20 minutes in game one of San Antonio's remaining three games to maintain eligibility for postseason award. So he has to take. So he has to play 20 minutes in one game. It can't be 20 minutes total in all three. It has to be one game. Okay, who is this Wimby? He has to play at least 20 minutes in one game in order to be eligible for the postseason awards.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Why? He only played 15 minutes tonight.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

He got injured.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Oh, did he?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Yes.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

So you think he gonna miss a game?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Hell no, man.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Hey, let me tell y' all something. I like San Antonio, man. I. I'm gonna be honest with y'.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

All.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

I wouldn't be surprised if they come out the West. They had six guys in double figures night and three of them dudes came off the bench. They. They got a team full of dogs, Uncle Ocho. They got some dudes who can go. And they've been playing great ball all year. Now when I look at Philly, here's what I don't like. The inconsistency with mb, you know, playing, playing a game, missing two, three games. Coming back, playing the game. DJ Edgecomb and, and, and, and, and Maxi, they can't gain a rhythm from that. You know what I mean? You know, emb gonna take that challenge tonight. Uncle Ocho going At going at Wima, you know what I mean? I'm cool with that. But man, Maxi averaged 28 a game. He only had 15 tonight, fellas, 6 for 16. I feel like it's hard for him to kind of gauge the game playing with Paul, George and Embiid. I'm just going to keep it real. And I know Paul George and Embiid, since they've been back, they've been playing pretty good basketball. But, man, I like to see Edgecomb and Maxi. I like to see them guys out there willing, dealing, doing their thing. Now, I do know San Antonio is a great defensive team. Yeah. Ain't giving up nothing easy. So if you think you just gonna come out here as a guard and you gonna get you 30 the easy way, unless you shay, they ain't going.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

But they got guys that could Castle and for Sale. And they got Champagne and they got. Obviously they got Wimby back there with them two broomsticks he holding up. They call arms. They get close to the basket. Yeah. They got guys that could defend at a high level and they got guys that can come off the bench, as you said, Joe, and get buckets.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Jackson Barnes has been a starter the large most part of his career. He only had two points tonight. But Kelvin Johnson killed and Johnson is a bucket.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Dylan Harper, even Luke Cornett chipped in tonight. Normally it's Carter Bryant.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Think about this. If Dylan Harper was on another team, he a rookie. If he was on another team, Uncle Ocho, maybe he wouldn't be playing significant basketball at this point of the season. But the fact that he's on, arguably. Well, I think they might be the second best team in the league. Man, this is special to be getting this type of production from a rookie.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Coming off the bench because then on any other team, bro, he can be the starting point guard.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

You know what I mean? And he probably would be in competition for rookie of the year. I think you have to make some decisions though, huh?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

They'll have to make some decision with Vesel and Champagne. Well, Harper, man, I think obviously Castle's not going no anywhere. It's Fox signed that big deal. But how do you keep Harper on the bench for another two years?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

I think if they end up winning it, you know, you probably run it back next year with him still coming off the bench. But after that, that boy nice, man. He is.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

He is San Antonio nice.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

They are, bro. I'm talking about all around. They whole team, they deep.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

They ain't got. They ain't got no weakness.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Nah, they defend, they got offense. Hey, guys, that can take you off the bounce. You got Wimby, who's a great bailout.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

They just play turn around.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I mean, he can get on the block. He get 10, 15ft. You can't block that shot. You hope he miss it. You ain't blocking it.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Hey, and if you know you got it, if you know you got him behind you, you can pressure up on defense, play the passing lanes, because if your man beat you here, he gonna have to shoot a shot he normally ain't accustomed to shooting.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

No.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, they got a nice.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

He's coming off a string of three straight games in which you scored at least 30 points and tally 15 rebounds with three blocks. That was tied for the second longest street since the block became a track became an official stat in 73, 74. Shaquille O' Neal had a four game run in 1999. He definitely was headed there.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Who is this on?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Wemby.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

He had three straight games in which he's had 30 points, 15 rebounds.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

The longest such street since the block became an official stat in 73, 74. Shaq had four such games in 99, 30 points, 15 rebounds with three blocks.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

I didn't see how he got hurt. Did you see how he got hurt?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I think he collided with somebody, didn't he?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Cause you know, y', all, Y', all, y' all basketball players, y' all ain't nothing but bone anyway.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, well, we, you know, we, we, we slim. You know what I mean, right?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Do what that.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Joe, I said we, we more. We more of slim cut, guys. Yes, it's hard. I'm be honest with y'.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

All.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

It's hard for basketball players to really gain weight running that they do. That we do. It's too much running. You can't keep no weight on, man,

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

unless you eating. Because I've seen some basketball keep some weight on.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, that's because they.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

They eat.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

They eating like they start us, but they only playing 10 minutes a night. You're sitting there eating 800 calories, boy, please.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

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[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

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[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Carson Nova Everly were hired to run the Bulls front office at the start of 2020 during COVID 19 and went 224, 254 across six seasons. Chicago, the only ruling season under his leadership was 2021, 22, which also was a year the team made the playoffs. A five game first round exit. The Milwaukee Bucks in 2022. Chicago is 29 and 49, sits in 12th place in the Eastern Conference and will miss the playoffs for the fourth consecutive season.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

They got off to a great start this year too. I don't know if y' all were watching earlier but when I say like the first 10, 15, 20 games of the season, they were playing decent ball.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

They were.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

You know you had giddy and bruisellas. You know they traded Vucevich. I like Kobe White. Kobe White has been unbelievable in Charlotte coming off the bench.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Oh man, he been the difference.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

He's been incredible.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

He has been the difference, huh? Yes. I mean he, he, he comes off the bench and gives him a great spark plug. He can score, he can playmate, he plays the right way. Obviously he back in North Carolina where He went to school at.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Yep.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

You know what I mean? So I think that gives him a little extra juice. And it's fun to watch Charlotte right now, man. They, I mean they, they probably. They made like a 20 something game jump from last year as far as win.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, yeah. They playing Joe Canipple ball. I like Brandon Miller, Miles Bridges.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah. Oh, they got some guys who can

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

go, hey, Brandon Miller, the same young bull from Alabama, huh?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yes. He getting to it. And Lamelo picking up his play, playing the right way, scoring when he need to play, making when he needs to. He can do a little bit of everything. They got a nice team, they got a nice young team.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

But I'm surprised that the Bulls aren't better. I think Giddy is a phenomenal player.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Why are you surprised that they not better? What they got over there that's like.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Well, not now. I mean, hell, they got rid of Usovich. They ain't got no big. I mean, you trade a guy that was Giving you what, 18 and probably 18 and 9. 18 and 10.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah. Yeah. I wonder what. They got some draft picks back from him. Cause I don't think they got nothing from, from Boston.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

They would have. They traded. Did they trade Booster beach to Boston?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, I'm saying, what did they get for him though? Some jelly beans, I think. Hey, look, I think, I think Chicago looking to go into the draft and get one of these stars coming out,

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

well, they better hope the, the ping pong ball land on them.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, I think that's what they banking on.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

You know that. You know that pink. You know how that, you know that system is, man.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Well, the thing is, in this year's draft, Uncle Ocho, just to be realistic, if you get a top eight pick. Yeah, well, you going, you're gonna have you something special. You right, you'll have something special.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I don't care. For me, I, I think AJ debonza gonna be the first pick in the draft.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Okay.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Obviously, if Utah gets that pick, you know he's going there. I think he, I think he played high school ball in Utah, he played college ball in Utah. So it's a seamless, natural transition. But I'm not so sure. It doesn't matter who gets that first pick. They taking AJ debonza.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

That's what I think.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

You don't. What about Peterson?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I don't think he's going number one overall.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

I just think, I think Peterson is a great talent. Oo. I just think it's just like a couple question marks and probably the biggest question mark Is how much does he love playing? I'm just gonna keep it real, bro. How much do you love playing? Because at this point, you know, playing in the NBA is a lot, a lot different from playing in college. You know, we talking 82 games, bro. You playing damn near every other night. You know what I'm saying? You have to really love and enjoy what you do. You know, they gonna invest a lot of money in them top picks, bro. It's. It's a little different nowadays.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

I know. I just don't see somebody like that getting that good at what they do at their craft without actually enjoying the game that they play.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Man, I've seen some talents. I've seen some.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I've seen guys be talented and be really good. They don't love the game. Do they train like they love the game? Do they do the thing necessary to make you think they love the game outside of playing the game?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Hell, no.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

See, you look at just playing the game. Oh, they love the game. But it's more than playing the game. The playing the game is only Sunday or only Saturday. Basketball is, you know, three, four nights a week. But what about lifting the weights? What about the studying? What about the practice? What about the way they eat? What about they get rest? Those are things that goes to tell you a guy loves the game or not. Not just playing the game. Everybody love playing the game.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

That's the fun part.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah. The training. The training, you know, when ain't nobody watching, you know what you're doing. Because in basketball, it's a lot different from football, fellas, you know, in basketball, you're gonna practice two hours out the day. You got the rest of the day to yourself, to chill. Game night on the road. I don't give a damn what it is. We ain gotta stay in the hotel. You know what I mean? Yeah, bro, you might got a little something. Something come through.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

You ain't. Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. Oh, before the game, Joe.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Hey, man, you gotta get it. How you live? We in different cities almost every other night, man. Man, I'm just saying. I. I ain't. Don't. Don't sit here and act like it ain't, you know, it ain't easy now,

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

you know, I mean, I ain't. I ain't no joy. I ain't never did nothing like that. But go ahead.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

I'm just saying, you know, hey, not today.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I mean, maybe the night before the game, not the day of the game. Joe, you ain't trying to do nothing like game, be the joke.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

I'm saying, uncle, if I'm in the city for only one night, you know what I mean, I ain't coming back. We only play this team one time in they building.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Well, you know, you know, like l say, if only for one night.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Damn, Joe. Y' all know, now that I think about it, that is a whole lot of cities, 82 games, man.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Listen, listen. They don't do no room check. They don't do none of that.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Y' all do no room check.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Y' all ain't got no curfew, man, hell no. Only person go gonna be room checking you is your damn girlfriend or your wife. That's it.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Damn. Oh, Lord have mercy.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

I ain't know that joke, man.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

They got security on the hall right there by the. By the elevator and the doors you got.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, you better be in your room by 11 o'. Clock.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Nah, I'm just keeping.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

They got come out, come out coming by, checking their rooms. No, now, you know, guys might be in the room playing video games or playing cards or something like that. Ain't no. Ain't no, though, man.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

I got like, for instance, like, it's cities that, you know, you go to, you know, people. I ain't necessarily saying it's just, you know, females. I'm saying you may know some cats you went to school with, high school with, college with, and, you know, you only go, hey, man, we go out, we get something to eat, let's go bowling, let's go do something like, it's this.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I ain't trying to see nobody I went to high school with.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Hey, hold on. You ain't double back on nothing you went to high school with.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

No, well, you know, everybody you go to high school with, but I mean, after year, by the time you made it, they didn't got kind of big. Joe.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

No, no, not. Not early in your career, Ocho, you know what I'm saying? It may be something in high school, you know, you thought was nice.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You ain't.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

You ain't touching high school. So you like, hold on.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Nah, Joe. Everything nice in high school and got a little fluffy. They're a little bell pepper. Joe.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

That's 10 years. That's. That's your 10 year reunion. That's out. That's 10 years, but two, three years removed from high school.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Man, please, Joe, think about this. Joe, think about this. And I'm sure people in the Chat could attest to this. Those. That was fine as hell that used to be. Oh, they was. They was them, you know, as far as female they don't. It don't be that years down the line, Joe.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

I'm saying 10, 15 years down the line. They may not be like that, but you still. You still gonna have. You're gonna have a few ocho that's gonna really take care of themselves and keep themselves up. I don't know where y'.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

All.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Where y' all from, you know? I mean, what y' all got going, what school y' all went to, but where I'm from.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah. I'm just telling everybody, get. You know, get a little healthy, a little weight on them, you know, Ain't nothing wrong with that. I'm just saying it's never what it used to be. That's not how I remember you in high school, man. It was that one. Like, I couldn't wait to come out in the hallway and see you walk by, because you was that one.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

You know, I mean,

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

I. I get. I get what you're saying, Ojo, but that there is a few, bro. There's a few. Look, look, you know, because, you know. You know, like, in high school, they may be a little slim, you know? I mean, two, three years out of high school, they didn't get a little weight.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Good weight, right?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

You know what I'm talking about?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, I feel you. I mean, I. I ain't really seen nothing like that, Joe. Most of the time you graduate and had two, three kids, and, you know, they'd be a little bell pepper. Joe.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Not all of them. Yeah.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

I mean, yeah, maybe not. Where you from? I'm talking about down here in Miami.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Conversation. And, Joe, I hate to go against you, but don't you right, Ocho? Right. Oh, different.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah. Hey, I'm telling you, look, two, three years out of high school. Let's say you at Savannah State, you a junior in college. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

You mean to tell me it ain't

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

no girls in high school that you done seen? Or you be like, boy, look, I

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

ain't backtrack in high school.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

You didn't?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Nope.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

I mean, I ain't acting like I did.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I'm just, you know. Yeah, I know you did.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

I'm just saying. I ain't acting like I did. I'm just saying.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

But, hey, hey, O. Joe, I saw. Hey, I saw big things in their future in high school. I'm talking about, you know, a job promotion. I saw big things on the horizon. Just saying,

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

hey, now. Hey, Joe, now you got me thinking. I'm trying to think, who was who? Who was that?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Oh, you. You from Florida, boy, I Know y' all got some.

[Edwin Castro (Castro 1021)]

What?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

No, wait, I'm trying to think.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Who was. Who was the eighth person?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Oh, so most of us was having baby. Joe. They was having babies. I mean, a lot of them had babies while we was in school.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I mean, the youngest was 13. She got pregnant at like, 13. I think she had a kid at 14. We didn't. She got pregnant in seventh grade. Had the baby in eighth grade.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Damn. I ain't.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

How are you in the eighth grade?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Eighth grade? Thirteen.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Thirteen, 14, 13.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Hey, I had some girls in my elementary. Pregnant, sixth grade. Yeah.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Joe, wait. Joey. Oh, you know what? You out there in Arkansas. Okay.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, yeah. Project girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I'm like. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, Joe. That was it.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah. I ain't had no pretty girls in high school, bro.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

They were pretty in high school.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, right.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I went to college for four years. That was high school. That four years ago.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

And you mean. Tell me all the prettiness gone from.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah. Interested. You weren't interested then.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Now you interested now.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, listen, they always interested after. After what they choose don't work out.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Exactly. You want to drink and smoke weed. You ain't want me

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

now. You want me two, three kids later.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

But hold on, hold up. You're a little more experienced now.

[Edwin Castro (Castro 1021)]

What, you ain't trying.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

What, are you trying to wipe?

[Edwin Castro (Castro 1021)]

You ain't trying to.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

No, I'm good.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

What we trying to do, Joe?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Man, let me tell y' all something. At Little Rock Central, where I went to high school at, Let me tell y' all something. We. We had all the pretty girls that I. At Central, bro. Like, if you went to another high school in Little Rock before our bell rang, when school was out, you see dudes driving through there. You hear me?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Damn.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, dudes come through there. They. They. A lot of the girls that I went to high school with, especially the pretty ones, they probably dated somebody at a different school. You know what I mean? Yeah, but we had them, boy. We had them. You hear me?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Well, we didn't.

[Miles Turner]

Damn.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

I mean. Hey, Joe. I think we had them, too, Joe. I mean, it's Miami, you know? I mean, it's a melting pot. Of course everyone is gorgeous. But things change in a short amount. In a short amount of time from by the time you graduate to four years later.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

So you ain't had, like, no little skinny girl in high school. And then two, three years later, she gained some good weight.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, I'm. I'm saying. Oh, Joe. I mean, Joe, me, my high school, my girlfriend, high school. When we broke up, I had my girlfriend in college. I ain't look back. I ain't messing with no. I ain't mess with nobody from.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

All right, okay.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

And now you got me thinking. I wonder where the people.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I'm trying to think college is a different story.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Call it something else, boy,

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

I'm trying

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

not to tell the story.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Hey, yeah. Hey, college.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

You got me thinking, Joe, what I

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

got you thinking about?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

And now I'm trying. I'm trying to. I'm trying to think back who was fine back in high school. And I wonder where they at and what they doing now, and what do they look like now.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

After all, you ain't worried about nobody right now. You might have been worried about it when you got out of. When you got out of Oregon State.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

I think they were on the topic, huh? That's all the fact of me on the topic, like it's jogging my memory. I'm like, damn. I wonder where so and so at from 1995, 1996.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

That's all.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Hey,

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

man, I had this one, boy. Hey. She went to a rival high school. Boy, she was so fine.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Oo like that.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

What.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

What's her name? Huh?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I ain't telling you.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

We might be able to find them.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I know where she is. My sister, see? All the time.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, for real?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah. You looking for her?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Okay, my bad. She's still fine.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

He don't want to say, man, she pushing 60 here.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

That might be. That might be the one. Never mind.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

We broke up.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

What you did wrong?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I ain't do nothing wrong.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

You just said y' all broke up. Well, 98 of the time, it's the man.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Look here, see, if I. If I tell the story, everybody gonna know who it is, and I want people to know who it is. I don't want to put a business out there.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Okay, okay, okay, okay. My bad, my bad.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Hold on. The people you went to high school

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

go know everybody go. Yes.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, wait, hold on. Y' all was together and it was private.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Ain't no.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Hey, no.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, man, look here, man. You know what I'm saying? You know.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Are you a creep?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

You know, man, don't talk. I had padded feet. You could.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Okay, I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

You know, we. We quietly broke up at.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, I know, man. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. Some of the best times of my life, bro. If I'm keeping it real with y', all was in high school, bro. Oh, yeah, high school was fun, bro. College, college. When I got to college, I could. I could see my dreams right in front of me. Meaning, like the NBA. I was so focused that it wasn't nothing gonna throw me off my pivot. Same thing in high school, but in high school, I had so much fun because I went to high school with a lot of cats who I really grew up with. High school was fun, bro.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

You threw caution to the win. Boy, I am so glad. There ain't no way I could have survived with social media now in high school with this,

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

man.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

What you talking about?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, with that. With the access and overexposure.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Hey, what you talking about?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

No, sir.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Hey, listen. Cause when I was in high school, boy, you had to. You had to go check. You had to go home and check that call ID to see who calls you. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Don't you know about that? What you know about that call id, Joe?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Well, hey, Ocho, I should be. I go straight home and check it. Trying to see. Trying to see if this. Hey, let me see if she hit me up or something. Let me see what's going on.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, but that was a good old day. Yes. You fired Ocho. Whoo. You're talking about. Oh, bye. I'm talking about stack. I'm talking about the girl had body box it.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Hey, hey. Cause. Cause you know, when you're in high school, they fine for no reason. They ain't got to work out or nothing. Hey, what's up, right?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, yeah. You, you, you, you with me for a minute, man. Let me stop. I get myself.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me get.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Little Swede.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Chicago Sky.

[Lily Herrmann]

Ready for a different take on Formula one. Look no further than no grip, a new podcast t tackling the culture of motor racing's most coveted series. Join me, Lily Herman, as we dive into the underexplored pockets of F1, including the astrology of the current grid.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Lewis Hamilton, Capricorn sun cancer Moon. Wouldn't you know it? Michael Schumacher is also a Capricorn sun cancer moon.

[Lily Herrmann]

The story of the sport's most consequential driver. Strike. We have one man who, upon hearing that he was going to be fired, freaked out and apparently climbed out the window of the bathroom. And was Daniel Ricardo's illustrious F1 career a success story, a cautionary tale, or some combination of both? He started getting all this attention and he maybe started to think, I'm bigger than this. I'm better. And plenty of other mishaps, scandals, and sagas that have made Formula One a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to no Grip on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I'm Daniel Jeremiah.

[Greg Rosenthal]

And I'm Greg Rosenthal and this is

[Daniel Jeremiah]

40s and free agents.

[Greg Rosenthal]

The games may be over, but the NFL never stops. This is my favorite part of the calendar.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, mine too, Greg. Free agency, the combine, the NFL draft, pro days, trades. This is where teams reshape their future.

[Greg Rosenthal]

This is where Daniel Jeremiah makes his money on 40s and free agents. We break down every move that actually

[Daniel Jeremiah]

matters, from my draft evaluations, mock drafts

[Greg Rosenthal]

and team fits to my top 101 free agents and how real rosters are built, cap space, contracts and all the tough decisions included.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You got quarterbacks on the move.

[Greg Rosenthal]

We got teams rebuilding. It's hope season.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Absolutely, it's hope season. We'll tell you what's real, what's noise, and what it means for your favorite team.

[Greg Rosenthal]

Smart, analysis, real conversations every week.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I don't know about the smart, but definitely analysis. Listen to 40s and free agents on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

This is Julian Edelman, host of Games with Names. On our latest episode, we got comedian Blake Anderson from Workaholics and the hilarious this is important podcast.

[Edwin Castro (Castro 1021)]

Let's go.

[Comedian Blake Anderson]

We did beat him in improv.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

You had an improv against the team?

[Comedian Blake Anderson]

Yes. We would pull up. Their schools would be there with signs for us. It's competition, it's what you would win. Is a bottle of goldschlock. James Fester threw it out of a van because he didn't want us drinking it.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

For more games with names, visit the

[Charlamagne Tha God]

iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.

[John Green]

I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of the Fault in Our Stars and now I guess also as the co host of the Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast.

[Daniel Alarcon]

I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World cup was Mexico. 86. I was nine years old. I watched, watched every game and I fell in love. On our new podcast, the Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football all leading up to the 2026 World cup for us.

[John Green]

Soccer. Football is a story we've shared for over 30 years since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team.

[Daniel Alarcon]

Very debatable.

[John Green]

And I was their most loyal and sometimes Only fan. I love this game. I love its history, its hope, its heartbreak, and above all, its beauty.

[Daniel Alarcon]

Together, we'll find out why. Of all the unimportant things football, soccer is the most important.

[John Green]

Listen to the away end with Daniel Alarcon and John green on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Edwin Castro (Castro 1021)]

Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro 1021, and I'm Conkey, his best

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

friend and business manager.

[Edwin Castro (Castro 1021)]

And we've got a new show called the 1021 podcast. I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I bec. One of Twitch's most popular streamers. We also love sports. And with the World cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA. Listen to the 1021 podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I've traded two time WNBA All Star Angel Reese to the Atlanta Dream for first round draft picks in 27 and 28. Angel is the only WNBA player in history to average at least 12 rebounds per game in a season, which she did in 20, 25, 24 and 25. The angels dream jersey sold out fast. Not even her mom was able to get one.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Damn.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Lisa Leslie gave Angel the nickname ATL Peach Barbie Joe, seem like angel got what she wanted. She's a perfect fit. Is she a perfect fit for the city?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Hell, yeah, she a perfect fit. These people gonna get behind her. Y' all already know it. Y' all know how they listen. This is black Hollywood, brother. Yep. They gonna embrace her and everything that she does. You know, whether she. She may even come out with her own shoe now. Does she already have a shoe? No.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she got a shoe.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Shoe.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Hey, but hold up, though. Yeah, yeah, you're right. She does. She does have a shoe with Reebok. You're right.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

But if.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

If we can keep Brittany Griner and have Angel. Amen. Because. Because with the chick from.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

What's the name? From. From. She went to Kentucky. She's number one overdraft pick. Ryan Howard.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Ryan Howard.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

We got a great.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, they gotta.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

They got a good team, bro.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Absolutely.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

They got a good team and adding her rebounding machine. Play hard Hustle. Yeah, man. It's gonna be a great fit for.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I like it. I think everybody got what they wanted. I think, you know, after kind of some of the comments that she made last year.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Chicago was ready to move on I think she was ready to move on. Ideally. I. I think this is. You can't get any more perfect than this.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, you can't.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, she's from the dmv. She can't. You. You can't get it any better than this.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Only thing, I think Washington have a team, but this is where. This is where she needed to be.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

This is it, Reese.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, this is heaven for her.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yes, it's.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

It.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

She gonna.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

She.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

She gonna love it here. Hey, you know what's funny, bro? My daughter, 12, and she love Angel Reese. That's, like, her favorite player. I swear, I can't make this up.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

So we definitely got your ass at all the games.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, we're gonna be in some games. Hey, hey, Angel Reese, if you. If you watching this now. No, I need to get my baby girl a picture with you. You know, we're gonna come check you out, support you. So, you know, good luck in the A. These people gonna get behind you for sure.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I'm in the city, where they at.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

You know who I got? I got Asia.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, I got Asia.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I got Chelsea Gray. I got Jackie Young.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Hey, we're gonna. Hey, I'm about to come down there, man. We're gonna.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Come on, we go to a game.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah. Yeah. What's up? Oh, Joe,

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

where we going,

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

man?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, Joe, you ever. You ever been to a Dream Game before?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Hell, yeah.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

I'd have been to a few.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, boy, I went to one. Remember? Remember I went to the Dream Game that one time?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, you went to. Yeah, you told me it was lit, man.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

I. Joe, I ain't never get this thing.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Let my boy dj.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Yo, I ain't never seen nothing like that, boy.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

I'm down, Ocho. It's different. It's different at the women's games. The dream is different out here.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

It was nice. It was nice, Joe. It was like. Like you in the club. But it's a basketball game going on, and don't let it be no time out, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

That's how the Hogs game is, Ocho.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

That's how the Hogs game is. Can you imagine what?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Magic on steroids. So imagine the Hawks. That's how it is.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

What they dressed up like the club, Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Yes, Lord.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Oh, it going down.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Damn.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, I know.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I know. You just like the club.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, I know you happy. You know, you. You gonna have Cambodia with you. You ain't you. You gonna have them blinders on.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Joe ain't doing nothing.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

We gonna keep you clean. Cambodia?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Go to Houston. But I. I like.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, Joe, I could have worn my credit card decline.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Any Houston thing. Anything that got Houston on it.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

It declined it. Hey, hey, Joe, I could have wore my cheetah pants to the game, huh?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, you could have warmed. Ocho.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey. When nobody had these things on.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Hey, look. Cause it really ain't gonna hurt you to look at the menu. You ain't trying to order nothing.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, I mean, matter of fact, Joe, I ain't gonna look at the menu, Joe.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

You ain't gonna look. I mean, you got eyes, Ocho.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

You ain't.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

I got eyes. But hey, hey, hey. The stuff on the menu ain't nothing like what I got now.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, I know. I know. I. I get it. I get it.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I mean. Oh, just cause you. Arby, you order the Wagyu, but sometimes you look at the chicken parm, you're like, damn, maybe I should.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

You know, I'm just saying.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Don't show you just looking. You ain't.

[Edwin Castro (Castro 1021)]

That's all I'm saying.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Just because you don't order it doesn't mean you can't read the menu. You just can't order. Again, off the menu, that's all.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

I can't read. I can't read.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Okay.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

I can't. I can't read. I ain't mad at.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Yo Joe boy. Hey, Joe, you know, I've been. I'll be in Atlanta, Joe. We might have to go, you know, go to do something. Oh, we got.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, we gotta go check them out, huh?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

No, I'm talking about me. You know me. You go. You know me. You man. You hang the weekend. Oh, yeah. Say less. What you want.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Oh, we going this weekend?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

No,

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

we're gonna go by.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Yo, I. I talked to y'.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

All lying. Yeah, all right.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, yeah. But I was. As we were saying, I think this is a great fit. Atl, Peach Barbie.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, hey, y' all put me in the group chat.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Hey, hey, I do want to check out that little spot you were talking about, though. That. That one little spot. You know what I'm talking about?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, okay.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Say no more.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, I. I pay. I pay for us.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

No, no, no, I pay.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

I pay. Hey, Joe, you got my message today on Instagrams and Twitter.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah. I say, okay. I see you in there doing your little. Yeah, I mean, yeah, Joe boy, that ain't. That ain't enough, though. I'm gonna keep it real with you.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Okay?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Ain't no. Ain't enough. You know, my Reach my Reese, you know?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

I mean, hey, Joe, Joe, I'm coming up under that. I'm coming. I'm coming up under all that.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Now, you seen how Fedora done?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, my last name ain't Thurman. My last name Johnson. But, hey, I would talk. I was talking basketball. I was talking basketball. But if you want to go. If you want to go that route, I mean, we just gotta get.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

We just. In order for us to really hang out, Ocho, we gotta get the fade out the way. That way I can feel good about myself. Cause it's gonna be hard for me to hang out with you. You know, knowing you the high side of me. You the high side of me. And I posed to just live with it. Like, I, I, I just need three minutes, bro. Then, you know, I give you a hug. I still love you.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, hey, hey. Honestly, Honestly, Joe, what's up? Like, you probably ain't gonna want to be my friend, you know? Cause I'm gonna turn your ass every way but loose.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

You hear me?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, hey, listen, you. I love you like a little brother, man, you know? But, I mean, it is. It is what it is. I'm trying to hoop, okay? What I want to see is I want to see you catch that ball in the block in the low post or the high post and try to do all the moves you be doing.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

That's cheating. I ain't gonna even post you up. That's not.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

No, no, no, no, no, it's not cheating, Joe. It's not. My strength is my lower body, my lower extremity. So I'm ready up here. I'm good.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Hey, I don't think, I don't think. I don't think your lateral movement that great. That's why when I get you moving side to side and I get to hit you with that, that you ain't gonna.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Joe, Time out. Time out, Joe. You talking to you. You talking to the person with the greatest feet ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah. You good in a straight line like

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

no straight line, Joe? I'm good.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

You got football feet, that, Joe. You say he ain't got no boxing feet?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah. He ain't shuffling. He ain't keeping nobody in front of him.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

All right, all right. Okay. You know, I don't even want to talk about it more. I don't want to talk about it no more.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

All right, let it go.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

You gonna get what you're looking for.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Okay, say let, partner. I'm right here, baby.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, you. You probably drunk right now.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

That's All. No, I ain't drunk. I'm feeling good.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, I got. We got a little buzz going on, too, man.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, I got. You see. You see me? I got my little portiere, too.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

I see, I see, I see. Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Yep. You over there, Joe River. This is about high school, Ocho. Talk about college.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Y' all tripping, bro. High school was fun, man.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

It was. It was fun, but once I left, I really, you know, that was it for your boy, not me. You know, like I had said, like, when I left, my girlfriend was still in college. I mean, still in high school.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Mine, too. Yeah, when I was a freshman.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey. Damn. I wonder what. Hey, what? My. Is it. Is it. Is it weird, the Wonder where your girlfriend from high school is at this point?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I. I mean, I. I haven't thought about it, actually.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Right.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

I mean.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

I mean, we talking about it. I just wonder how she's doing. I wonder if she's okay. I'm. I'm curious. That's.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Well, I mean, last.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Last I heard, she had two. She had two kids. I mean, her kids grown now, right?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, so.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah. I mean, my high school, my college girlfriend, she had two more kids, right? They're grown. I mean, close to being grown.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

But no, I mean.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, hey, that's crazy, Joe. When I think about it, Joe, I only dated two people in high school.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, literally. I'm like. Like dead serious. Really?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Only two people?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

That don't mean you ain't shag nobody just because you date. Okay, Date? You had two girlfriends, but that don't mean you ain't put it down.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

I'm talking about. I'm talking about serious dating, obviously. My oldest daughter, I dated her mom in high school and one other person after that, and that other person after that.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I'm curious, how old is your oldest?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

27.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Oh, so you. Oh, so you got a child with your high school sweetheart?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She took advantage of me, Joe.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

You were young. Didn't know no better.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, no, no, no, no, no. I mean, I was irresistible back then, Joe. If you think I look good now, you should have seen me in high school. Joe.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Hey. Hey.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Hey.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

You laid up when you. Man.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, I was. I was. Hey, I. I was. I was a little funny. I was a little funny looking dude back then. I was funny looking back at. Hey, Joe. I could drip, but I put that. I put that thing on, Joe. I'd be out there clean with my clogs and my ballies, my polo sets, you know, my Tommy Hill figure said Joe, you know, my jean starched up to the tee with the white tea. With the. With the. Hey, Joe. Hey, y' all were clean, Joe, but you, you had.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

You had weak pull out game than your man.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, I couldn't even pull out a driveway, Joe. You hear me?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

But you gotta understand, you know that joker there.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, but you gotta understand, there was a method to my madness, Joe. I only had kids with people that were athletic.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

That's what's up.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Only I don't care how fine you is. I ain't care nothing about you being an IG baddie. I ain't care nothing about having that. Everyone I have a child from understand the athletic background. They give me an advantage when it comes to my child being an athlete. That's all.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Hey, Ocho, your kid is pretty competitive when it come to you.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Every. Yeah, every last one.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, man.

[Brianna Stewart]

Every.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Every last one.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Mine is too, bro. All three of them.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

The funny thing you said about. About playing your son one on one, he talking about, he'd be cursing.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, you. You let it go.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

In. In. In the midst of battling and Mr. Competing. Yeah. I don't want you to lose that edge. I don't want you to lose that competitive nature.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I don't want you to lose that.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Listen, I don't want you to lose. Expressing yourself in that moment. I don't.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

I don't. You know what? You know what? For me, Ocho, you know, with my oldest son, I just feel like he can control his emotions around me. You know what I mean? Like, don't tell me you can't, bro. We just playing pickup. This ain't no real game. Obviously, we want to win. We competing, but for you to just be f bombing and. Yeah, I love that. I love that.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

That ain't happening because listen, ain't no. Ain't no way, Joe. Ain't no way my kids would talk like that in front. No, sir. Ree. That ain't gonna happen.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, we playing a sport. I ain't trying to hear, man, what we playing. Hey, Joe. Playing a sport. I want you acting the same way I act. I ain't got time for all that. Don't be cursing. All that. No, I ain't got time for all that.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Be.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Be you express yourself.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

I'm sorry. I can't do it with you.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

I got you. I got you. I got you.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

You. You like me, Joe? No, sir.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah. Hey, yo.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Hey. I said what, man?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Go to bed. What are you doing up?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Oh, my bad, daddy.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Oh, okay.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

You still doing that don't do that. Hey, I understand.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

You don't talk like that in front of me now.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Nah. Yeah. Hey, I'm the same way, man. Hey, look, Nah, bro, I'll tell you, it's been three years since me and my older played pickup together. He was 16.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Yeah. Yeah, Joe, I'm about to be 58. I pay my mama bills. I don't cuss in front of my mama.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

That's what I'm saying.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

You think you finna cuss in front of me? I still pay half your bills. Hell, no.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Hey, Ocho. Ocho, Why I ain't cursed in front of my mama, my grandma.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

No, hold on.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

I ain't cursed in front of my.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Hold on.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

You think I could curse in front of Bessie May Flowers? Or I can curse. I ain't cursed in front of him either. But when it. When it comes to competing on that field, man. Joe. I told you, Joe, I ain't wear a mouthpiece for a reason. And it just didn't start when I got to the league, man. I started in the Optimist.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Boy, my grandma look at me sideways when I say ass. I said, great. It's in the Bible, but it ain't in there like that. Oh, no, no.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't even think about my. I. I couldn't fix my mouth to say, sob a mofo. What? G.D. no, that ain't what happened. I'm sorry.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, it did. Don't sit well with me, neither. Hey, look, I can't even focus on the game no more. He out there dropping them F bombs and bees and all. I'm like, hey, hey, hey, See?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, you know what? You know what? That tell me. Hey. And.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

And, hey, Unc. That's what it tell me. When I'm playing him, all I got to do is cuss his ass out, see? I mean, I'm gonna be in your head, huh? Yeah, man, You.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

You grown as hell. I'm talking about my damn son.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Well, well, well, well. You gonna be my son when I'm done with you.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Okay?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

You gonna be about something when I'm done with you.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

I'm gonna get in your head. Joke. Get in your head.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I'll play like that. Okay, Joe B. Hey, Joe, I think you know what I. Ocho from the South. But me and your background, we got a lot of similarities, Joe. We got a lot of similarities. I'll play like that.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

I think it's the cancer in us. You know, we. We good people, bro. It's just some. Some stuff we just ain't gonna tolerate.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I'm a good person.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

I'm a good person, too. I'm Capricorn. I'm a good person, too, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Hell no.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

I know. And the funny part, Ocho, I know we always talk about this, but, damn, I worry about my son. Cause y' all got the same birthday,

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

so he kind of, you know, that's my dog. That's my dog, Joe. Sometimes I can't even. I can't even form a complete sentence without cursing, Joe. I can't. You know, it. It's hard for me because it's always been a part of my vernacular, okay? I have an extensive vocabulary, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I just.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

I just. When you ever. You curse, hey, it's like me. It's like me, right? I'm talking to y', all, and I say, you know what, Uncle Joe, man, I love y', all, man. Now, it. It means something. But when you say, hey, Uncle Joe, man, I love y'.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

All.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

See that effing. It adds emphasis on the meaning of what I'm trying to get across to y'. All. And it means a lot more Now, I consider and call those sentence enhancers. So when you cook, Unc, you know how to cook, Joe, you know how to cook. It's like cooking with no seasoning. Curse words is nothing but the seasoning. And it adds flavor to what you're trying to get across. That's all.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I was. I was somewhere, and me and my son and my daughter, and my son was telling the story about. Yeah, dad, this dude right here, man, he was being all creepy. He was, like, looking at. Looking at Kayla. And, you know, he walked up on her. I like, mother. I said, whoa, whoa, whoa. You can tell that story without putting mo fo in there. Now, hold on now.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, you messing up the story.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, how's the whole. Whoa, whoa. I appreciate you taking up for your sister.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

No, no.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Leave that mofo out.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Out.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Not just. Okay. Not tell the story how it went, all right? Hell no.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Right?

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I'm about to knock that mofo.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, you can't mess up the story like that. Curse words add meaning to whatever it is you're trying to get across. You know, black folk. You know how we explain stuff.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Hey, listen, you want to explain that to your friends? Have at it.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Oh, yeah. You know, when they with their friend, now they cutting the rug.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I ain't got no problem. They drink when they with their friends. You know, he wanted to get apartment with his sister. I said, no, bro. She a female, right. I don't think she gonna have. Guys, you're not gonna be able to take that.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Right.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

You get your own place. Hey, I'm gonna play for you to get your own place.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I'm gonna pay for her to get her own place. She's a. She needs to have her own place.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

So therefore, you're not gonna be in your feelings.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I ain't no dummy.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

You're right.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

The same way with you, she don't need to. No, bro. Hell no.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Get your own place.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Everybody cool?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

It don't be people at the window. See what time she coming in and who she bringing over there. Because I already know how you are, You know? Yeah. Look, I cursed because I came from a family of curses, Uncle. My mom cursed, and people talking about what they get, bro. You think I could curse in front of my grandma? My mom. You think I cursed in front of my mom, my grandma, my grandpa? You think? Oh, Lord have mercy, man. Listen, I'll tell you what. In a couple of weeks, I'm gonna have my brother. Come on. Cause as a matter of fact, the day was his birthday, and I called him.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

I said, man. He said, man, you don't know how many people I suspect. What'd they ask you? They tell me about the story about the teeth. He said. I said, so what'd you tell him? I said. I told him what? Basically what you said, Mr. Barney, don't let your tea jump out the window and run away from you. Hey, I don't play like that, man. You get. Don't catch all the fish, man. You know, G.D. well, I can't catch all them. I don't even know why you said he. But I was thinking about it, guys, when you said. When somebody asked me last night, the time you. The only time that I can remember that my grandfather laughed, that he was at something that we said that wasn't on the television is that we got. We got. We were fishing at a place called Needle I Lake, and it had started to rain. And as it started to rain, my grandfather started catching the fish.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

My grandmother knew that we on a dirt road, and it's gonna get muddy, and we might get stuck.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

And.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

And grader was like, barney, we need to go.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

We go.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

He like, ah, damn, man. The fish just started biting. Okay. My grandma ain't say Nothing for about 10, 15 minutes. Barney, we go. Hey. Oh, damn, man. All right. Okay. I'm ready to go. Show. Enough. We stuck.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Get out of here.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

So he gonna Walk. So it's me, Spanky, Granny, and Papa. Papa said, well, I'm gonna walk. The Guy's name is J.E. stanfield. He said, I'm gonna walk to J.E. i'm gonna get him to come back and pull us out. So he leaves me, Granny, and Spanky there. It's black at this point in time, it's black dart,

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

man.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

My grandma heard a sound. Ask my brother. My grandma beat us by half a mile. Granny was gone. Granny was gone. I asked Mikey, man, Granny beat us out there. Beat us out the wood so quick. And so when we told Popeye the story, he just laughed. But, boy. And it just so happens that that's really the only time that we told a story that he laughed. Now, obviously, you know, there are things that come on tv, he would laugh something like that.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

But I remember that, like yesterday, it was me a lot late, Barney. God dang Mary, it just started biting. Ah. Shaq revealed his Mount Rushmore today. Jordan, LeBron, Kobe, Steph, Joe, you like Shaq's Mount Rushmore?

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Kobe, Jordan, LeBron. Yeah, I ain't got no problem with that. Okay, Ocho. I mean, they all form hella five ballers. Obviously, man.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

He ain't got no old school. He ain't got no. He ain't got no Magic, no Bird, no Russell, no Kareem. No Will.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

No, he don't.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Shaq got all modern players, everybody, after 1980.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, you know what? That's kind of rare, too, because, you know, he a little older, and you would think he would at least throw

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

one old, especially like a Magic or a mat, at least. I was thinking Magic. Magic went to. With the nine NBA Finals in 12 years, he won four. Three Finals MVPs, three regular season MVPs. The most. I mean, the most assist in Finals history.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah. Y' all know Shaq ain't giving, too. He ain't giving no bigs no credit now.

[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

Nah, hell no.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Unless you Yokage or somebody outside of that hell, he ain't giving no big no credit.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Hey, hey, Joe, if. If you had your Mount Rushmore, who you'll be, who you'll be a foe,

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

It'll definitely be Jordan, Kobe. I'm talking. I'm. I'm. I'm gonna pick guys who I grew up watching guys like, it'll be TMac, Penny, Hardaway. I like big guys.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Ocho, that's your Mount Rushmore all time.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, man. I like big guards, bro.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho)]

Okay.

[Joe (Uncle Ocho's friend, sports analyst)]

Yeah, not. Not necessarily like, you know, guys who knew guys who had great playmaking skills and could score, you know, if you just a bonafide score. I mean, that's cool, but I like guys who can make guys around them better, you know what I mean? And obviously put the ball in the hole. Like, those are dudes who I grew up. I'm talking about those four dudes, Unc and Ocho. When I tell you my walls in my room when I was a kid, when I was in high school, you couldn't even see what color the walls were. Cause I had nothing but posters of these dudes, bro.

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[Uncle Ocho (Sports Analyst)]

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