Nightcap Hour 2: Wizards WIN NBA LOTTERY + Anthony Davis is KEY to #1 PICKS + Ric Flair TAKES SHOT At Luka + LaMelo Ball Has FIRST Child

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Episode Title: Wizards WIN NBA Lottery + Anthony Davis is KEY to #1 PICKS + Ric Flair TAKES SHOT At Luka + LaMelo Ball Has FIRST Child
Date: May 11, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe (with NBA draft analysts "Joe" and "Uncle Ocho")

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the aftermath of the 2026 NBA Draft Lottery, with a heavy emphasis on the Washington Wizards unexpectedly winning the #1 pick despite having the worst record, the odd “Anthony Davis effect” on lottery outcomes, trade speculation, Ric Flair’s viral comments about Luka Doncic, and candid talk about injury impacts and fan expectations in L.A. The energy is informal, humorous, and rich in NBA insider banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Wizards Win NBA Draft Lottery: Breaking the Streak

• The Wizards (18-64) land the #1 pick after a seven-year stretch where the worst-record team did not win the top spot.
• Utah jumps to #2, Memphis #3, and Chicago #4.
• Indiana’s failed gamble: They traded their 2026 first-rounder (which became #5) for Clippers' center Ivica Zubac at the deadline.
  • Quote: "They traded the fifth pick in the draft. Not for Jokic, not for Wemby...Zubox is a double double guy, but I don't know if anybody would have traded the fifth pick for Zubots." - Joe (03:59)

Timestamp: [03:11-05:09]

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2. Was Indiana’s Risk Worth It?

• Debate over whether Indiana’s trade was justified:
  • Uncle Ocho empathizes with fans’ disappointment but respects the front office for going all-in with a bold move for Zubac.
  • Joe notes, "Sometimes you roll snake eyes," emphasizing the risk.

Timestamp: [05:09-05:47]

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3. Hypothetical Trades for the #1 Pick

• Intense, tongue-in-cheek back-and-forth between Ocho and Joe imagining Utah trying to trade up.
• Scenarios with players like Jaren Jackson Jr., Lauri Markkanen, even Anthony Davis (A.D.) floated.
• Joe goes full “NBA GM” demanding "your next four unprotected lottery picks" for the top spot.
  • Quote: "You want the Bonza or not? I want your next four unprotected lottery picks." - Joe (08:43)

Timestamp: [05:47-12:16]

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4. The “Anthony Davis #1 Pick” Phenomenon

• Bizarre pattern: Every franchise that has traded for A.D. has ended up with the #1 pick soon after.
  • Pelicans trade Davis, get Zion (#1 pick).
  • Mavericks trade for Davis, land Cooper Flag (#1).
  • Now Wizards get Davis and win the lottery.
  • Quote: "Anthony Davis is the key to getting number one pick...Right now he's three for three." - Joe (23:10)
• Ocho jokes, "Isn't that ironic?" (23:31), poking fun at “NBA conspiracy” theorists.

Timestamp: [07:06, 23:10-23:34]

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5. Draft Class Breakdown & Mock Top 5

• Consensus: This draft is deep with real star potential.
• Top prospects discussed:
  • #1: AJ Debonza (expected to Washington)
  • #2: Darren Peterson (Utah)
  • #3: Cameron Boozer (Memphis)
  • #4: Caleb Wilson (Chicago)
  • #5: Clippers (by way of Indiana)
• Ocho, on Utah's motivation: “We've invested so much in AJ that we gotta have him in Utah, you know?” (10:31)
• Lively mock trade humor referencing classic NBA draft-day swaps (Penny/Weber, Jamison/Carter). (12:29-12:54)

Timestamp: [13:05-14:56]

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6. NBA Team Asset Maneuverings & Pick Hauls

• Memphis positioned for quick rebuild with picks #3 and #16 (from Phoenix).
• OKC's stash of Clippers’ first-rounders still paying dividends, described as "the gift that keeps on giving." (25:24)
• Modern NBA: Multi-year, multi-team web of pick swaps highlighted as both “blessing and curse.”

Timestamp: [15:01-15:31, 24:02-26:01]

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7. Ric Flair’s Viral Call-out of Luka Doncic

• Ric Flair criticizes Luka for being out during crucial playoff time, tying his $46M salary to fan disappointment.
  • Quote: "I would jump off the Empire State Building with a parachute for $46 million a year and I don't even know how to pull the cord." - Ric Flair, recounted by Joe (29:51)
• Joe and Ocho defend Luka:
  • Remind listeners that injuries—especially hamstrings—aren’t about money or toughness.
  • “Die-hard Laker fans...it's just hard when you watch the Lakers battle and they don’t have him out there.” - Ocho (30:58)

Timestamp: [29:51-32:26]

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8. Luka Doncic & Laker Expectations

• Luka’s continued postseason injuries: "He’s a guy that averages more in the postseason than he does in the regular season.” - Joe (33:29)
• L.A. fans and franchise judged on championships, not effort or context.
  • “You're measured by championship. Whether drafted or traded, that's the expectations.” - Joe (34:36)
• Comparisons to other sports dynasties (Patriots' two-decade run).

Timestamp: [33:29-38:45]

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9. LaMelo Ball’s Milestone (brief)

• Mentioned in episode title but not covered in core discussion; no summary content found in transcript for LaMelo’s first child.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Franchise-Changing Trades:
  • "Sometimes you got the dice. Hey, you roll the dice, sometimes you hit a point, sometimes you roll snake eyes." — Joe ([04:40])
• On the Anthony Davis #1 Pick Phenomenon:
  • "Anthony Davis is the key to getting number one pick in 2019...Right now he's three for three." — Joe ([23:10])
• On Fan & Media Criticism:
  • "Why mention the money? The money has nothing to do with your availability. If you hurt, you hurt." — Joe ([30:41])
• Ric Flair On Luka's Absence:
  • "I would jump off the Empire State Building with a parachute for $46 million a year..." — Ric Flair (via Joe, [29:51])
• On Laker Expectations:
  • "You're measured by championship. Whether you’re drafted there or you're traded there, that's what you're judged by..." — Joe ([34:36])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:11 — Lottery rundown & Pacers’ risky trade
• 05:09 — Debating Indiana’s gamble
• 05:47 to 12:16 — Hypothetical trades, Utah/Washington/AD trade scenarios
• 14:29 to 15:01 — Mock draft top four/five
• 23:10 — Anthony Davis “curse” and #1 picks
• 29:51 — Ric Flair on Luka / Lakers' playoff woes
• 33:29 to 34:36 — Luka’s impact and Laker championship expectations

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Tone & Style

• Conversational, humorous, and authentic insider NBA talk.
• Sharp banter and role-play as GMs (“you want the Bonza or not?”), with playful negotiation tactics.
• Mix of fan perspective and expert analysis.

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Summary Value

This episode captures the big storyline from 2026’s NBA Draft Lottery, examines how franchise decision-making is scrutinized in real time, and puts a spotlight on the quirky patterns that capture fans’ imaginations ("the Anthony Davis #1 pick curse"). With lively trade talk, strong opinions, and a signature blend of humor, it’s a must-listen for NBA fans who crave both the inside scoop and the barbershop debate.

Transcript

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[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Okay, we fit the transition after teams with the worst record in the NBA each of the previous seven drafts failed to land the top overall pick, the Washington Wizards went 1864, came out with the top pick. Washington was followed by Utah, tied for the fourth best odds at number two. The Grizzlies had the sixth best odds. They got the third pick. The Bulls the ninth best odds. They got the fourth pick and the remaining Clippers, Nets, Kings, Hawks, Maverick, Bucks, warriors, okc, Heat, Hornet. The Pacers found themselves on the wrong end of the lottery Look Sunday, losing their 2026 first round draft pick. President of Basketball Operation Kevin Pritchard addressed the fan base, frustrated with that the season full of losing didn't add a high draft choice thanks to trading for the LA Clipper Center Zubots in February. This is what he said. I'm really sorry to all our fans I own taking the risk. Surprise. It came up a fifth. After this year I thought we'd do some luck. But please remember this team deserved a starting center to compete with the best teams next year. We we have always been resilient. Joe Sometimes you got the dice. Hey, you roll the dice, sometimes you hit a point, sometimes you roll snake eyes. Hello, they roll snake eyes now. So basically they traded the fifth pick in the draft. Not for Jokic, not for Wemby. Zubox is a double double guy, but I don't know if anybody would have been willing to trade the fifth pick in the draft for Zubots. And that's not a knock on him. But they rolled a dice and the dice didn't roll out, Nick. Turnover in their favor. You like what Kevin Pritchard said. You like the risk? No risk, no reward. No risk. It no biscuit, whatever the terminology you want to use. Do you like the. What? The Pacers? You did. You like them going for it?

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Well, listen, if you're a Pacers fan. Yeah, you pissed off. Okay. But I. I ain't mad that they, you know, went out on the limb, bro. You gotta. You got you a nice big and Zubot. But this draft is so deep, Uncle Ocho. Meaning I. I think it's some. Some real. Real stars gonna come in. Gonna come into the league in this draft that. I know they feel like they missed out on the golden opportunity, bro, but at the fifth pick, it's just so tough, man. It's tough. I don't. I mean, I don't know what you're doing. I don't know what you're gonna do with that. If you.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

The club Utah say, damn it, we were so close.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

They still making. They might can package something and get the number one pick. I feel like they.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

They're not. I don't. I don't. You. You think the Wizards gonna give up the bonza?

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

Why they.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Why they say. Hold on. Are you saying package the number one pick? What you mean? What they giving up, man?

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Maybe they give up Markerman and.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We don't want to give a marketing.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

No.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Okay. Give us. Okay. Y' all will. Oh, yes. So that means. Hold on. Washington got it. So that means we're just gonna flip.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

We just gonna flip, pigs. We're gonna get y' all one, and we just gonna take two.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Oh, no, no, no, no. I need more than that. Give me eight. I need A.D. Do you want the bonds or not?

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Can we have a serious discussion here?

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Okay, let's go.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

I already got Jaren Jackson Jr. And Lori Markerman. What the hell you gonna do with A.D.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

well, I'm gonna. I tell you what. We. We'll get y' all. Jerry Jackson.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Listen, listen, if I'm Washington. All right, don't move on the pig, man. Go draft the Bonzo. Put him with Trey Young and Andy. Hell, it seemed like. Hey, I seen something today. Every time you trade Anthony Davis, you get the number one pick.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Absolutely. You. That the Mavericks. You got Cooper flag.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

He left. He left New Orleans. You got Zion.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Yep.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

You just.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Hey, he just. Cameras called the Bonzo looking less enthusiastic about Washington winning the lottery pick. Lady said I'm excited. Obviously wanted to Be the number one pick. Working to be the number one pick. So it'll be exciting. Great opportunity. Joe, how does the bonza Anthony Davis, Trey Young sound in Washington?

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

It sound. It sound good. It's in the Eastern Conference. Debonza is from Massachusetts. Uncle Ocho. So hell, he back on the East Coast. He close to home. I mean, the Wizards are do bro for a start. And what better way or better two veterans to have Trey Young and Anthony Davis in this prolific score at the 2, 3 spot. You know, learning from these guys and them guys showing him the rope, that's kind of what. That's kind of what Dallas wanted to do with Cooper flag.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

You know what I mean? And I feel like AJ is ready for the moment. Meaning can be a 20 plus score from day one. We need Trey.

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[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

They're gonna need Trey Young to every about 12, 13 assists.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Oh, he could do that. I definitely believe he can do a double double.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

What? Oh, yeah, I know he can do a double double. I'm saying he ain't gotta be 25 and 12, but he can be anywhere from 18 to 22 a night, Uncle Ocho. And 10 to 12 assists.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

8.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Hopefully he can be a double double guy. I feel like, man, that's a. That's a decent damn team if you ask me.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

It's being reported. The Wizards would report, would consider trading down from the number one spot spot per Jake Fisher.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Well, Utah, Utah say. I tell you what they say. Look here, what y'. All. What y' all want to do? What y' all want to do? I will need. I'm gonna need your next. Your next four picks unprotected.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Oh, hey, hey, hold on, hold on. We just. We gonna. We just gonna swap one and two. And I'm gonna send you. I'm gonna send you an all star caliber player with it. How about that?

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

I want your next four unprotected lottery picks. Do you want him or not? I'm gonna do you like, hey, I'm gonna do what you call them. Say the Clippers and okc. Y' all won't. Y' all want Paul George? Y' all want Paul George or not? Because I want three or four unprotected lottery picks. Now, do you want him or not?

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Hey, you.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

I'm about to hang up,

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

take your emotion down. Just listen. Just listen to me. We both, we both at the bottom of the barrel right now, okay?

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

But I got number one.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

I don't know why you trying to. Why you trying to take everything I got. I'M trying to help you. You can help me.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

I don't want your help. Right now you in no position to help anybody.

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[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Right now you can't help me. I got the number one pick. So you know what? I tell you what I tell you what I do. You know what, Joe, you got in the closet space over there, hang this up. Click. You see what I did to. About your.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

He.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

He over there trying to. He tried to tag. We both in a bad spot. You call me. So I'm thinking if you call me, that means you in a worse spot than me.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

I'm giving you. I wanna.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

I'm.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

I'm giving you the number two pick, which is gonna probably be Darren Peterson. And I'm gonna give you.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

I don't want it. Well, oh, if Darren Peterson gonna be so good, he falling right in your lap. Won't you just go ahead and take it if you want him so much?

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Well, listen, we've invested so much in AJ that we gotta have him in Utah, you know?

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Exactly. And that's the thing. And guess what? Ocho and Joe, I know you need it. Guess what? I'm gonna get everything I part. Because guess the thing is when you make a deal in desperation, you give up more than what you should. And guess what? Utah desperate they need. He went to high school in Utah. He went to college in Utah.

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, Uncle Joe, I don't. I don't really see them giving up that number one pick. Obviously, Washington is trying to improve. Why would you give up the number one pick? You already got 80. You got Trey Young. You, you, you wanna, you wanna change that atmosphere down in, down in D.C. i don't see. I don't see him doing it. I don't see him doing it.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Yeah, I don't, I don't see him doing it either. Unless Utah come with some sweet. They're gonna have to come with a sweet deal.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

I. I want you. I want the next three, four up. Hold on. Joe, you do realize think about what Orlando gave up for Desmond Bane. Four unprotected lottery picks. Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

For aj. Yeah. Yeah, we'll give you that. We'll give you that.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

You said no.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

And well, I took back to my man.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

I hung up on you.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

We had, we had, we had a discussion and now I'm coming back to the table.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Nah, too late now. It's five. It's fine. I don't move it up.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

That's okay. That's okay. We'll do it. Listen, and we're gonna send you and we're gonna send you an All Star caliber player with him.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Who.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Who you want?

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Yeah, I got nobody but AD and what you call him?

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

Trey Young.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Trey Young. So what do we. What if we take. What if we take that number one. What if we. Okay, we swap. And we.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Now I'm talking about Utah. Utah gonna give you.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Yeah, we're gonna give y'.

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[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Y' all want the boxes. Y' all want the opportunities. So I tell you what we do. Just so y' all don't do no monkey business, we'll select him and trade him to you. You remember how they did? You remember how Jameson and Vince Carter, and they just.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Kenny Hardaway and Chris, and they just changed.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Hey, come here. Your cap. Don't even put it on your head. Give him your cap. You take his cap.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Yeah. Penny Hardaway, Chris Weber, same thing.

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[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

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[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Well, listen, listen. Anyway, any way we can get him in Utah, we. We're. We're here and, you know, hopefully we can make something happen.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Because think about it. You got George. You like Keonte George? Joe, he can flat out score. You put it with a point guard. You got marketing. You got a. You got a Triple J.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

That Ace Bailey.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Hey, man. But anyway, let's say you go down to three to Memphis. Who you go with? You going with Boozer? Preparing with Edie? Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

I don't think. You got no toy or what you gonna put it. You hold on. Is Job there or not there?

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

No, Job gone. He gonna be gone.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Okay.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

My guardian, though.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Well, if that's the case, all things being equal, I think a point. I think. I think Acuff works better there.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

You think Acuff works better in Memphis? I'm gonna. They got Acuff going to the Brooklyn nets at 6. I ain't gonna lie. I like that spot. I know. Now, I know Acre probably want to go higher, meaning he probably wouldn't mind being a top three pick. But if I'm keeping with y', all, I don't want to see Acuff in Memphis. I want to see him in the big city. I want to see him in Brooklyn.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

What about. What about Wilson? Caleb Wilson, the guy from North Carolina? Hey, hey.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

He nice Joe from Chicago, number four. Yeah. They got a nice young squad over there. He gonna fit in. He gonna be a star. He gonna be an All Star in this league. Okay, Ocho.

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

So hold on, hold on. You got Kaylee Wilson going number four.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Yeah, I got him going.

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

So you got the Bonds are going one. Who you got going to Peterson?

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Yeah.

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

So who? Three.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Three.

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

Oh, that's right. That's right. I forgot about booze. Hey, so where booze gonna go?

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

You gonna go to Memphis?

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

Nah, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

What you mean now? Look, they just gave up Jan Jackson, so now they they gonna replace that with boo.

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

They're gonna fit, okay?

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[NBA Fan / Commentator]

You right, you right, you right, you right.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Oh, and you got Big Easy over there.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

And don't hold on. Don't Memphis get Orlando's pick duty. Let's see, I think they get we

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[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

They had to give up four first round picks to get. Bang.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

It must be a later first round pick.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Yeah, I think.

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

If I can be.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Yeah, I can't hold on.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Oh, so at 14.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

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[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Okay, 14 and 18. So. So when does what you call them get the. When does Memphis get Orlando picks? Oh, Phoenix. Because they got Desmond Bain. Detroit. No, well, Phoenix. No, no. Bane was a free agent. He went to Houston as a free agent. Right. Remember? But when. Excuse me. Dylan Brooks went as a free agent. So I'm trying to figure out who. Who did they get over there. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Memphis has 3 and 16. Memphis has 3 and 16. And the 16 is from Phoenix. Okay. So they can. They can build up pretty good. They get a good solid pick, number three, they get another pick at 16. Yeah, I just trade y'. All. They might get. I mean, get a solid player.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Yeah. I mean, because when you think about it and you look at it, I don't really think Josh did the coast system, bro. You know, he came in, he kind of changed the system. He using that overseas system.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Ass cut, you know, catch and shoot and. Yeah, yeah. Job box office, bro. You know.

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

Hey, you know where he gonna be at, though, Joe?

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

I hope he do go down there.

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

Joe, he. He looking for a place down here right now, so we ain't. We ain't got nothing to worry about.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Well, you know, hey, Joe, they're gonna. Probably won't wear a Tyler hero.

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

That's fine.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

They're gonna get Tyler hero.

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

That's fine.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

But my thing is. I don't understand. You felt. You felt. So you could have had James Harden.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Who?

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

The Heat. And they didn't want to get up off hero.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

You saying they could have got James Harden win a couple of years ago

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

when he was available, but they didn't want to give up hero.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

I don't think they wanted. I don't think they really wanted James Harden that bad.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Man, can you imagine James Harden with. With. With. Bam?

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

I can't imagine James Harden in Miami. Yeah, that's why I can't imagine.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Well, you know, they got. They got some nice adult entertainment.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Hey, he. Hey, James like the party. Okay, listen, if.

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

If he could.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

If he could go in Houston and guess what? Pat Riley gonna tell him no. Yeah, you got to tell him. You got to tell him no.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Hey, listen, y' all know, man, they really. They really got people in the clubs, bro. Who let people know, hey, yeah, Bam in here tonight. Just let you know, Pat. Yeah, Route. Yeah, yeah, we see.

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

Hey, that's perfect. That's exactly what my boy need. That's what my dog need. Coming out, coming down there from Memphis, come on down here to Miami, we gonna make sure you're right. Because the. The destruction, the ecosystem, the way things work, we. We gonna always have eyes on you. When you think we not even watching. Hey, that's what he need.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

As long as you don't think Miami is paradise and it's a damn vacation, boy, you gonna have a.

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

Hey, boy, you're coming here to work, boy.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

That's it. That's it. You coming to work.

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

Coming here to work.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Don't be fooled by the palm trees in the water.

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

No, sir.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Yeah, don't be fooled. You got to be putting in some work.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Well, I'm all for it. Anthony Davis is the key to getting number one pick in 2019. Anthony Davis trade. Pelican trade Anthony Davis. They get the 1 pick in Zion in 2025. The Mavericks trade for Anthony Davis. Guess what? The number one pick. The Wizards trade for Anthony Davis. Guess what number one pick. So right now, he's three for three.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Isn't that ironic?

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

People go say, see, See, y'. All. Y' all think y' all slick NBA. We see what y' all doing.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Oh, listen, you Know what? They couldn't make it obvious by. By giving Utah the number one pick. So they just gave him a little wiggle room. Like, man, y' all can really make some moves and maybe y' all can get that.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Y' all need to work this out. What would have been messed up if OKC got the number one pick? We.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

I'm glad they down there, too.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Think about it. The Lakers got. The Lakers won the championship, and they got the number one pick with James Worthy.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No. Yeah.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

No. OkC. OkC gets fit. So they get their own pick. And. And Philly's pick, right? LP Goes to Dallas. Who do they trade for Dallas? Oh, you know that. You know how the NBA, man, they be bringing five or six teams in, and you get our pick in 2027, and we get your pick in 2032. They still get what you say? 17. So they get. Oh, so this the last year for the Clippers? This last year they get the Clippers pick. Damn, they be. Think about how long they be getting Clippers first.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Who get number five pick?

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

No, the Clippers. OKC get the Clippers number 12 pick. The Clippers get Indiana's number five pick.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Oh, okay. I wish now. I wish. I ain't gonna lie to y'.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

All.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

I wish my hawks would have got that number four pick. I took four. I ain't be. I ain't. I ain't asking for the B1 or two. But if the house could have got that number four pick and got Caleb over here. Oh, y' all still.

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

Y' all still would have been home. I'm just saying.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Yeah, get over with.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Hey, they still got. What? They still got one more card up. This lead Joe in 2027. OKC can pick, swap. So they say. You know what? We like that pick y' all got. Let's go ahead and swap this thing out right now.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Damn. Cheating ain't the man they.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

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[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Man, Ric Flair took a shot at Luka last night after The Lakers went down.03 to OKC. Oh, there's only one word that I can possibly say, and that's disappointing. $46 million and you can't play? OMG. I would jump off the Empire State Building with a parachute for $46 million a year and I don't even know how to pull the cord to open it. But I take my chances. Luke has been sidelined with a grade two left hamstring string since April 2 and recently revealed that his original diagnosis was eight week timeline, which means a return isn't likely until the end of the Western Conference final. Joe, do someone need to remind Rick that. Rick, the NBA court isn't the wrestling ring. And this stuff isn't choreographed, bro.

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

I mean, that. That's how fans feel, Uncle Joe. That's how they feel. They want to see you play the first thing. Why mention. Why mention the money? The money has nothing to do with your availability. If you hurt, you hurt. You can't go grade two hamstring. That's nothing to play with.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Hold on. Them die hard Laker fans, man. It's just hard when you watch the Lakers battle and they don't have him out there and you see him on the sideline to. To think, what if? And like, damn, you know it. That hamstring just tricky, bro. You can't just come back from it, you know, that quick. So. And if we just keeping the 100 over the past few playoffs. Hell, Luca got hurt. He just got hurt.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Yes, he made the fight up when he went to the playoffs last year. I mean, when they played Boston, when they beat. When Boston beat him. He was nicked up in that series. Yeah, he was nicked up last year.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Yeah.

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

Damn.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Look, I think. I don't think Luka's faking. I think if Luka. Luka doesn't strike me as a guy. I think, look, I think he got in great. He got in better shape. They asked him to come in better shape. He got in better shape.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

And he stayed in shape throughout the year. You know, he just had a hamstring. And those Europeans, they're going to have that body like that well, you have seen a European, like, cut up. I'm talking about like Cap, like the white hired of Giannis.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Never Jokic, never

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Luca. That's just. They not built like that. It is okay, they can ball. But we expected them to have these deep, you know, yoked up bodies. That ain't how they're built.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Hey, them boy heavy on that beer,

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

That hookah, Doncic. Hey, but hey, the thing is though, if. If. If you go give somebody 34 a night, I don't think there are too many teams gonna tell you to put down the hookah and, And. And. And the Anheuser Busch, the Bud.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

No, they ain't. They ain't. They ain't gonna tell you that. But, man, you gotta have.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

You should want to do it. Cause you like. Hold on. I'm getting 34 at night. 34. 8. 8. And I'm on hookah. And I'm on. And I'm drinking these Buds.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Bro, put that down.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

I might. That I might bump that thing up to 37. 38.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Man being the man in MVP. He in the MVP running this year, playing insanely. And you mean to tell me one little injury, that's why. One little injury broken change the whole game. Look, look at Wimby, bro, like we always talk about. As much as he hit the court, hit the floor one, if he go out, it's an even ball game.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Oh, yeah, because you look at a guy like Luca Luca, his average is 33. And he's a guy that averages more in the postseason than he does in the regular season. If you look at his regular season score and you look at his postseason score, he bumps it up. Yeah, he's a guy that gives you eight and eight. He gives you eight rebounds, he gives you eight assists. That's what the Lakers. And like I said, I'm not saying that if Luke is in the lineup, they're going to win the series. They probably still lose, but I feel. I would feel even more comfortable. They can get at least a game or the games would be competitive. It's gonna come down to like the last two, three minutes of the ball game and not the fourth quarter. You already know. Well, I go do something else until. But I think like you guys said, I think Rick is a. Is a Laker fan. And he's like a lot of Laker fans. Like, damn, every year we get here, Luke will get hurt.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Amen. In la, they want. They want championships. They want to be matters.

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

No excuses.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

That's all that matters to them. And when you. You know, in the 80s, you got five, and then the 2000s, you got another five. Yeah, that's how the Lakers are measured, man. They measured by championships. They don't care about all that other stuff. And all the greats that have come there have won championships. Wilt came, won a champ, won a championship. Kareem won five championships. Shaq came one three. LeBron got one. That's what the superstar. I'm not talking about the guys that got drafted there or they traded early on. Kobe got drafted to Charlotte and then they traded for Kobe. He wasn't drafted by the Lakers, but he won five championships, so they ate. He didn't play for anybody else other than us but the Lakers. You're measured by championships, whether you, you're drafted there or you're traded there. That's what you're judged by. Yep. Because that's what the expectations are.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Hey, look. Plus you got Luca and LeBron. You got arguably the best player in the game, and you got Luca, who is, I'm speaking of LeBron, one of the best to ever play the game, right?

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Yes.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

You got Luca, who averaging 33 in the MVP race. And you got AR, who had done came along. I think Lakers fans really felt they had a real chance to make it to the finals. It's just unfortunate, bro. Unfortunate.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

I me, I didn't really think they had a chance to make it to the Finals because they can't defend.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

I think situation. I think it came down meaning matchups depending on who played in the postseason. Obviously, if you don't have to run into OKC until, you know, the west,

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

the Western Conference Finals.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Finals. So, yeah, but if you have to

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

run into them early, I mean, I mean, so, I mean, given the way Aiden's playing, the way he's playing against Chet and Hartenstein, what the hell is he gonna do with Wimby? What you gonna get Wimby? 50, 15 and 8.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Man. Luca just such a difference maker, though. Fellas, we can't. You, you know, out of sight, out of mind. Hell, this ass ain't played I don't know how long. So we forget, you know, when he was playing here, he was hot as. I don't know what. First quarter. He probably averaging 20 in the first quarter.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Oh, yeah, yeah. NBA and scored in the, in the first quarter. No question about that. I think he's probably 12, 14 points a game in the first quarter now.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

They'll still have some low points, but having him definitely helps.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Yeah, I, I, like I said, I think that the frustration. Because when you win. That's the expectation is that you supposed to win all the time. And think about, I mean, they go straight from. They won their Last championship in 88, and then they start winning again in 2000 and they win. Basically they went, you know, they win, they go to seven, they win five of them. So in a 20 year span, they basically, they basically won. 1980 was the first one, the last one. So the 30 year span, they won 10 championships.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Bang.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

You know, you go to 16, you win 10, and that's the expectation to get the finals. It's kind of like the Patriots. The patriots had a 20 year run. That's unprecedented. They went to nine, they won six, then the AFC championship numerous times. Peyton beat him three times in the NFC AFC championship game. Joe Flacco beat him once. So that's another four times. They easily could have gone, man, imagine fan base, just get it, you know, that's what we expect.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

Imagine getting drafted by the Patriots, bro, and you just, you don't know nothing but winning.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

That's all you do, Joe.

[Uncle Ocho (NBA Analyst / Co-host)]

You don't know nothing if you got drafted by the Patriots in that span. I'm talking about. All you know is winning, bro.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

All you know is NFC championship game. They missed the playoffs one time. They missed, they missed the playoffs in, in 2002 and they missed it again. And when Brady got hurt in 2008, after that they didn't. So they missed. In 20 years, they missed the playoffs twice.

[NBA Fan / Commentator]

That's crazy.

[Joe (NBA Analyst / Host)]

Like I said, you're never gonna see that again. I don't believe you see it again. I don't. Because it is so hard to win in the NFL because this is final.

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