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Colin Coward
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Colin Coward
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Julian Edelman
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Shannon Sharpe
Executives think the Eagles could entertain A.J. brown trade this offseason. Per Jeremy Fowler, A.J. brown's love hate relationship with the Eagles is a league's worst kept secret. AJ's frustration with the state of things is boiling over. According to Mike Florio, much of the speculation center on the relationship, or lack thereof, between quarterback Jalen Hurts and wide receiver A.J. brown last year. Then Eagles defensive alignment Brandon Graham spilled the beans before doing damage control. Hurts was asked about the relationship this week and said we share great passion for this game and we're focused on this week. As Florio wrote, it doesn't take an advanced degree in psychology or anything more than basic common sense to realize something is off.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What? Well hell, we all can see something is off. We see it when we watch the goddamn game. We see it. I've seen some of the breakdowns and some of the analysts break down some of the route concepts and and some of the things that other teams watch defensively and know exactly what A.J. brown is running based on his alignment and where he is. That's why he's always goddamn covered. People talk about he need to get open. Well it's hard to get open when you run the same goddamn same concept.
Shannon Sharpe
That what you said. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. You said, you said you was telling guys, you was telling guys what you was running and you will still get open. You told me. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Chat, stick with me. Hold on. You said you tell wide receivers what you were running and he was and you could still get open. You said it doesn't matter if the defense know what you're going to do, can't nobody stop you. So even if the defense knows what A.J. brown is going to do, he still should get open based on what you've told us for the last two years, Chad, do you agree or disagree? Hey, I'm just going by what you said.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho, can I say something? Yes, I said Ocho can go out there for 17 weeks straight and tell every DB that lines up in man to man is route every double team 55 quarter. It didn't matter what you played. Ocho can get out there and line up.
Shannon Sharpe
So you said let me get it, let me finish. My bad, my bad.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Before the ball snapped. I can let Carson know out loud. Let them know I'm gonna get the ball. And there was nothing you could do. I'm telling you what I could do.
Shannon Sharpe
But you said, no matter what I'm talking about, I don't know about nobody else. Even if the defense. Even if the defense know, you should still be able to get open because it's all about execution. That what you're saying.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, I'm speaking solely on me because I have the ability to do it. That's it. You know? But anyway, this is where, for Petullo, where creativity comes into play. The creativity that Mike Shannon has, the creativity that Andy Reid has, the creativity that Sean McVeigh shows in his offense. But because they are so reliant and so successful on the way they do things, they win doing things the way they do it. That's all. That's all. That's all I'm saying. But when it comes time to throw and they have to throw, Jalen Hurts is capable of doing that. And that's where A.J. brown will get his targets. That's where A.J. brown Will get his yards. All he has to do is be patient. His catches are going to come. His yards are going to come. It's early in the season. We only a week four. It's gonna come.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yo, it's gotta be patient. Shouldn't this thing been ironed out by now? We went through this for, like, nine weeks last year.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Listen, it should be ironed out, but they ain't using no starch. They ain't using no starch. We know about the stars. They gonna use the stars when necessary. That's all.
Shannon Sharpe
When necessary. So it ain't necessary right now, huh?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Now they've had a scare. They had a scare against Tampa Bay. You know, Tampa Bay was moving the ball real well, making it somewhat of.
Shannon Sharpe
A game, but what, the turnovers killed him?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Bingo.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, they blocked the point for a touchdown. Baker Mayfield threw two picks. That was the difference in the ball game. If you don't. I. I agree. I think A.J. brown's a phenomenal talent. But it comes a time. Ocho. Production intolerance. And we talk about.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What's the first word you just said?
Shannon Sharpe
Production intolerance.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And how is he not producing? Because what.
Shannon Sharpe
They don't care how you. How you're not producing. What they'll. Ocho, they'll tolerate you not producing. But what they're. What are they not going to allow you to do? Because I remember, I know a guy. Was. Was Antonio Brown producing?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
And what did they get tired of what did I tell you? Hey, go back. Look at. Go back and look at AB's number for like a five or six year straight.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Six stretch. The greatest ever. A six year stretch. We'll never see a stretch like Antonio Brown. Them six years. 1500, 1600, 17. Oh, my God. I'm talking about nasty work.
Shannon Sharpe
Now tell the people. Now tell the people what they did.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
They let him go. They traded other people.
Shannon Sharpe
Why? But you got to tell them why. Even with that kind of production, tolerance and production, as long as production is here. So with tolerance, tolerance will never outweigh production.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Now.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
A, we went from there. Oakland, right?
Shannon Sharpe
You went to Oakland.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
And then he make it a year. He. No, he didn't make it out of training camp because they ended up releasing him on Joe. And then he goes to. Goes to New England and then does something and then they release him.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And then he went to Tampa with Tom.
Shannon Sharpe
We went to Tampa, but I think that, I think. Did he go to Tampa that same year? Might have been. It might have been the Kobe. It might have been 2020. I don't. Yeah, yeah, he was on the team that won the Super Bowl. So that was the cold year. 2020. Yeah, that's. That's what I'm afraid of, Ocho. That's what I'm afraid of. Is that. Is that because they're looking at like, man, you called it a scene. I mean, we allowed you to read the book and we said it wasn't much of it. Hey, that's aj. Hey, we welcome that block. But I'm telling you, you play Ocho, you know how they think.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah. You know, and I also know how they think when you ain't producing either. I know. I know what they gonna. I know what they're gonna do. I know the game. I understand it. I know exactly what they're doing.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, but I ain't called. Look here.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, listen, he wearing that C on his chest. He gonna conduct himself in the right manner. The answers he had when he talked to the media yesterday, it was beautiful. It was beautiful. And I want my players to care. I want my players to care whether they want to be part of a system. They want to be part of the success that we are having. I want to be part of the offense. I want to be able to contribute. That's all. That's all he's saying. No ill will, no nothing, you know, but his time is going to come. It's very early. They're going to be games where team. They're going to play teams. 26 is not beating us. They're going to be games where they're going to say 26 is not beating us. And we're going to see Jalen hurts do what Jalen hurts can do. Throw the ball. And they're going to get their plays. He going to get his yards. He going to get his touchdowns. Just right now, everybody behind the eight ball. Justin Jefferson, Jamar, Chase T. Higgins. Right now, all the young bulls are having success.
Shannon Sharpe
No, but got an excuse. They was like, we lost our quarterback. J.J. mcCarthy's down. We up to Carson wins. We got Joe Burrow.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Understandable. But one thing about it is the cream orange rides at the top. Huh? AJ Brown is in the top five conversations for a reason. The cream will always rise to the top, regardless of what's going on right now. He gonna rise at the top. I'm telling you.
Shannon Sharpe
Are we sure we. Are we sure he's still in the top? Absolutely. Okay. Let's go, Jenna.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
Chase. Jetta. Chase. Amen. RA4.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, that five wide open, boy. That fast spot. Wide open. Because once you get to that, that.
Shannon Sharpe
Fast spot, Rico now is definitely wide reek.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's wide open. It's all based on preference. Who do you want to put in that slot? Now I know what the numbers look like right now. Roma, Dunes, A jsn, Ibuka. I mean, you could. You could. You could. It's interchangeable because it's so early in the season. But the cream.
Shannon Sharpe
Where. Where you putting?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Cd? He coming. He coming. They all coming. It's. It's. Hey, hey. Is that your. Is that your. Your WI fi messing up of mine?
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know. Mine. My WI fi. What. What's going on?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, what you on dial up over there?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Nah, man, we got the. We got the most expensive.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, you need to.
Shannon Sharpe
I know because mine was just. Mine was just. Well, let me. You know what? I'll cut my phone and you got.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You got that wife like. Like Joe. Like Joe Johnson.
Shannon Sharpe
Okay, it's already open.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, go ahead. I'm gonna do some push ups real quick.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, we. We. We don't play. We don't pay 25 for extra.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Where you at?
Shannon Sharpe
We're using the complimentary.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You. You did the upgrade.
Shannon Sharpe
I wonder what it was because it said my what? Huh?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You did?
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, we used the upgraded WI fi. Yes. Okay, I have to go to the center, you know, because they got like we did.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, but hey, hey, you see. You see how big I done got.
Shannon Sharpe
Body?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, you going. You going with me to the NBA youngboy show. No, hey, I don't think. I don't think that's a wise decision by you.
Shannon Sharpe
Huh?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You heard me.
Shannon Sharpe
What?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's not a wise decision for you not to go with me to the NBA YoungBoy Show.
Shannon Sharpe
Why not?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Because I'm gonna beat you up.
Shannon Sharpe
God, man. And you know, whatever. He gonna have. Whatever. Gonna. Whatever's gonna be. Gonna be.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, well, I'm just letting you know ahead of time, you're gonna be on the show with a black eye. Hey, I bought. I bought your outfit, too. Look, hold on. Let me show your outfit. You can see.
Shannon Sharpe
Go wear some Mike Myers out there. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I bought you some black Carhartt overalls. And. Because you got muscles.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, you hear me? Because you got muscles, you don't need no shirt underneath. And we gonna put the. The lime green bandana around your neck. And I'm gonna give you a Scully.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, it's okay.
Shannon Sharpe
I think I'm gonna have to pass, Ojo.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, you. You know you're gonna pass out your ass. Don't come to the goddam.
Shannon Sharpe
Go ahead, Ocho. I just think. I think that at this time right now, for the main of 20, 25, you know, my probation, I've been, You know, I check in with my parole officer. I'm on.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, boy. Hey, what up? That. Hey, that wi fi over there, choppy boy.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, you couldn't hear me?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nah, it's going in and out. Oh.
Shannon Sharpe
Because I. I'm not on.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, hey, hey, hey, Chat. So anyway, I got tickets for me and Unc. We're going to the NBA Young boy show. I got him some Carhartt overalls. He real buff, so I got him like a 2x. And he don't have to wear no shirt. He don't have to wear no shirt. I got the lime green bandana, right? He gonna put the lime green bandana underneath. And so on the way to the concert, I'm gonna put on some NBA youngboy music so he can get acclimated to what it's going to be like in the arena. Now we're gonna be in the front row with all the. With all the Y ends, right? But I got onto security because he got bad hips. He got bad hips, right? So I'm gonna make sure you're right. The security gonna stand in between them so he don't fall over because, you know, everybody be going crazy, you know, in the front.
Shannon Sharpe
Boom.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
We're gonna be all right. I Just want him to experience this because don't live the way he should be living like he's alive, but he ain't living. So I'm gonna get him out there to bring him back to his roots. They're bringing back know the. To make sure he stayed grounded and. And he need this. He needs something different. He needs something different in his life. I understand you want to go to church. He can bring his bible. He can bring his bible to the show. Matter of fact, we can have a prayer with NBA YoungBoy and the whole group. He can lead the prayer before the show. So you get. You're knocking out two birds. Oh, yeah. You want to be. You want to be godlike and you can have some fun and get turned up with the young. With the young, the white hands. And that's what we gonna do. And I just need. I just need to get him out the house. Get him out the house, man. Lift his spirits up a little bit. That's it. But what's that? Huh?
Shannon Sharpe
It's a. It's scripture. It's scripture for the day.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, give me. Hey, read me a scripture real quick. Read me a scripture real quick.
Shannon Sharpe
Second, the remaining teachable in God. After Cat learned she was pregnant, she dropped out of high school there for her daughter. Fifteen years later, Cat was a working mother of three who dreamed of becoming a licensed beautician. With humility and tenacity, she became a student again. A free GED support program. It was humbling to go back to school after so long. This teacher was amazing and offered me so much encouragement. Remaining teachable may be one of the most difficult things we can do. The Bible speaks of having that opens God's wisdom of two women calling out pastor passerbys. Wisdom and folly. Those who listen wisdom receive correction with grace. They added their learning and became even wiser. The they blatantly walk the right insight to seat themselves at wisdom tables for instructions. Their obedience lead to full life. In contrast to those who listen to folly. Hate became corrected or criticized.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Man, what the hell you talking about? Man, what was that? What was that?
Shannon Sharpe
Every morning I take this wherever I go.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Ocho, let me show you. I'm gonna show you the daily bread. It's a daily bread. Hey, I want you to work on this. I want you to work on this after the show. You heard me. Hey, Chat. Hey, Unc. Oh, Unc gone. He gone. I gotta make. We gotta get ready for that NBA young boy concert. Put on that all black. Hey, what happened? If I play his music? Chat, if I play his music on here. Will we get in trouble? Oh, we can't. Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
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Colin Coward
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Shannon Sharpe
Okay.
Colin Coward
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Shannon Sharpe
Chad if I go to the NBA YoungBoy concert, I will have this in hand. I do not leave home without this. So. Tugboat sink the tugboat sank 20 miles off the coast of Nigeria, turning upside down as it fell to the sea floor. Eleven crew members drowned, but the ship's cook, Harrison Okene, found an air pocket and waited. He had only one bottle of Coke and provisions, both of a flashlight. Died within 24 hours. Three terrifying days. Okeen was trapped alone in the darkness. And at the bottom of the ocean. He begun to give up hope when divers on a mission to recover dead bodies found him hunkered and shivering in the deep hole. The image of Okeen alone in the dark for 60 hours is unnerving. He told reporters he still suffers nightmares from the horrifying ordeal. But can you imagine what it felt like when he saw those divers powerful lamp piercing the darkness? What joy and elation, what hope. The prophet Isaiah foretold how when the Messiah came, all the people walking in darkness would see the great light. Left to our own devices, we live in a land of deep darkness. But in Jesus, a light has drawn. Ocho. You see that, Ocho? That's where your boy is right now, huh?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I want you to practice this move right here. That's all you got to do.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, I only do that for the Lord.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Like if your head depending on how.
Shannon Sharpe
Your hips feel, I only do that for the. Oh, that's how I am when I. When I'm up in church.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, I'm. I'mma help you with your moves before we go. You heard me? Yeah, we gonna be in all black. We gonna be in all black like this.
Shannon Sharpe
Nah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you gotta lay on the flow. You gotta lay on the floor like this.
Shannon Sharpe
Man, I ain't laying on no flow.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm telling you. Hey, you gonna love this, though.
Shannon Sharpe
No, you gonna love this.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, front row. But you know how much the front row tickets cost me. You talking about. No, you know how much the front row tickets cost me. And I got you a private charter, too, with security and a driver from the airport.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, yo, Ocho, come on now.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's too late. I done paid for it. I didn't pay for it. Hey, you could bring. You could bring that with you.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, I'm trying to get my wings, Ocho. All I think about see the little baby lying in a manger on Christmas morning.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Hey, that's what. Hey, that's what. That's what his music is like. Listen to NBA. Young boy will give you some wings.
Shannon Sharpe
No.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Did you listen to the song Rebel Ticket?
Shannon Sharpe
Is it better now, Ocho? Justin Jefferson would ask how he feels about the consistency and uncertainty at quarterback position during his career. This is what he had to say.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All right.
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You know, to be honest, that's kind of been my whole entire career since I've been here, so, you know, it's just not really flinching on that type of deal. And that's something that I can't really control. So the only thing that I can't control is going out there and catching the ball and, you know, winning on my routes and making sure that I'm open for the quarterback to see. So it really doesn't matter who's out there throwing the ball. And I'm always. I always have confidence in myself and the person throwing the ball. That you know, we're going to make something shake. So it's been difficult, you know, just trying to connect with the one quarterback and, you know, getting that relationship. But at the end of the day, my job is to go out there and catch the ball and be a, a open target for my quarterback.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't like that answer.
Shannon Sharpe
What you want him to say?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I don't like that answer. I don't like that politically correct bullshit. He just said, I want you to say. I want you to say, look at my numbers. Look at my numbers. Even with the quarterback carousel, look at what I've been able to do. I don't care if it was Mother Teresa at quarterback. When I'm out there, I'm gonna be open and I'm gonna catch whatever you throw as long as you put it in the vicinity. I've been doing this since lsu. I'm from the Boot cannot about who had quarterback for me. What you talking about, man?
Shannon Sharpe
Well, that's what he's. That's basically what he said.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I'm Justin Jefferson. I don't like the way he said it. I need you to talk that talk. I need you to walk that walk. I mean, when you add, he should have gritty during the interview. Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. See, I, man, I hate man. Hey, jj, don't you ever answer that like that no more, man. Talk your talk, man. One of the best, One of the best four, five year spans we've ever seen. You want a historic pace? You want a historic pace? Talk that talk, brat. You talk about you from the boot. LSU's finest New Orleans finest. You talk about you better second line your ass in the end zone next time you scope. Second line talk about, man. I mean, it's a good political correct answer. I ain't trying to hear that. You talk about, man. Hey, hey, ever since I put this all black on, I'm feeling real like, I'm feeling real dangerous right now, boy. I'm feeling real dangerous. I'm feeling like one of them Y ends right now, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
Right now I'm feeling like an omn. A old man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Don't worry about it.
Shannon Sharpe
Christ is the light of the world. In him. We need never again fear darkness, for he have light of life. We may feel trapped or hopeless, alone and in despair, but God illuminates good news. Jesus carries out of some darkness and into his marvelous light. Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yo, what's happening?
Shannon Sharpe
That's all I'm saying. Ocho. I'm, I'm, I, I'm I'm doing the right thing, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. And. And the right, the right thing. The right thing to do. Like, I know you listen, I know you're trying to walk. I know you trying to walk by faith. I know you're trying to do the right thing. I know you're trying to go in the. In. In. In the right direction. But listen, you got to have a healthy balance. You got.
Shannon Sharpe
You can't have no healthy balance with that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Did have a healthy balance, huh? Listen, you could go on that path. You want to go on after the concert.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, no, no, no.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
After the concert.
Shannon Sharpe
I didn't started this journey, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, but that journey gonna end real fast. You don't go to this concert and I'm telling you, I'm gonna jump on you like a chicken on the June bug. Right?
Shannon Sharpe
Let me live, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Let me walk. After the concert.
Shannon Sharpe
Jackson Dart was asked if he had a chip on his shoulder playing against the Saint, a team that could have taken him with the ninth pick in the draft. Dart said, I think there's always a chip on your shoulder anytime something like that happens. I thought my visit with them went good. So you kind of have thoughts in your head in the draft, what options are really realistic. And I definitely felt that that was a place that I could have panned out, but things didn't work out that way. He should be thankful, right? He didn't go there. I. Look the money, okay, Ocho. Top, you know, top 10 pick, you know, the money. I get it. But come on, bro. If you make, if you make it in new. If you make it in New York, do you understand what you can become, what you'll be?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Listen. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, well, you, you went in New York. Look at the people that went in New York. Look at Jeter, look at Strahan.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Look at Eli.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Can you imagine if. If there. If Aaron Judge would have win a World Series? I'll give you an example. Lt Legend Reggie Jackson.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You'll never have to pay for anything ever again.
Shannon Sharpe
Whoa.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You never have to pay for anything ever again in that city, boy.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, I, I think, Ocho, I think, like, when you go around on these visits and, you know, you, you, you know, you're highly rated, and you're like, yeah, man. And, you know, and look what they supposed to tell you, they gonna tell you. Yeah. Ain't nobody tell you now, if you're available, we're not gonna take you. And they probably. They probably, you know, hey, if you're there, we're gonna take you so, you know, obviously, you know, that didn't happen. I thought he. I think he ended up in a great spot. He gets an opportunity to play. He played well Sunday each week. Hopefully, he gets better. He grows, and he gets better at playing the position. He learns the offense even better. The guy steps up for him and played really well. But. Yeah, but it's just. It's natural. It's natural. Ocho, we was talking about it when we first started this chat about all the. That didn't want to. We didn't want to deal with us when we weren't who we were now.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Right?
Shannon Sharpe
So, yeah, you got a chip on your shoulder. Oh, you ain't think. You don't think I'm good enough. So since y' all don't think I'm good enough to. To beat y' all quarterback, right? Lamar said, look. Lamar said, look, you know, when Time asked him, when time we went to network, he's like, hey, you can see the hurt on his face. Like, hey, they gonna get my best. They gonna get a Super bowl out of me. Now he's got them two MVPs, but, you know, he. He plays like all y'. All that passed over me, right? I got something for y' all every time. And it should. That's. That's just the way it is. It's natural.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It is.
Shannon Sharpe
It's a natural feeling when you get passed over by the job. Ocho. Oh, y' all don't think I'm good enough? Okay.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, sometimes it's a good thing. Sometimes good. It's a good thing to get passed over and have that chip on your shoulder to prove those who pass over you wrong. Also proving yourself right.
Shannon Sharpe
You want to do go back and read the story. How Walton, How Walmart. Oh, yeah, he bought the company, built he this company. He ran the company, built it back up, asked him to sell it to him. They wouldn't. So he said, you know what? I do? I'm gonna start my own. Put him out of business.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Now look at it.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. I mean, you go look at it. I mean, the one. The one that owns the Broncos worth like 120 billion. Got a sister worth 115 billion. Another one worth 111 billion.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
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Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, my goodness.
Shannon Sharpe
Garrett Wilson was asked what he'd say to the people out there wondering why he decided to extend with the jets and not go somewhere else. I got to go home at night, feel good about the decision I make and love and I love it here, man. These people have brought me into, have bought into me since I was a college kid and this fan base has drove me, have dove into me. This is where I want to be. This is where I want to win it. For me, it's about where you do it at. What role did you play in that? And I truly believe because that's the thing that guys have been around here have gone through these last few years and what we're battling to get out of it, it makes it that much more beautiful. I don't ever want to lose sight, lose that or lose faith.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I like it. And in his decision also to stay is I'm that guy. I can be that guy they need in New York. I can be the difference maker. I can be the one they can count on at the wide receiver position as wide receiver number one. I'm that guy I showed you I could do my rookie year. Now we have a quarterback in Justin Field where I can continue building on my Rookie year, right? I'm that guy.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm him.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Him. I like it.
Shannon Sharpe
I like it too. I like go somewhere else. And do what? Start all over again. So you turn down 100 plus million dollars to go somewhere else in, in two years? Man, I ain't promised no two years. I'm gonna get this money right now. I'm here, I'm comfortable. The fans love me. Yeah, yeah. Is it. Would I love to have a quarterback that's stable and not have 15 different guys throwing to me all the. Yeah, sure. But I built, I, I built a foundation here. And what's to say where I go somewhere else? I mean it's not like team that, that's winning. Got money to play another receiver Ocho. The Rams got to play Puka Nakua. So where, where is he gonna go? Go to Cleveland. Like they winning more than the Jets.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He's in the right.
Shannon Sharpe
Seattle. They got receivers. Tampa Bay got receivers. So, so where is he going to go that they're winning? That's going to give him the kind of money that he's making. I love what he said. Like hey, I want to be here when we win. I want to be a part of the process.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, I'm excited. I'm excited.
Shannon Sharpe
Shaquille Leonard, formerly known as Darius Leonard. Shaquille Leonard is returning to Indianapolis. The three time first team all pro linebacker and 2018 defensive rookie of the year will attend the Sunday's game against the Raiders at Lucas Oil Stadium to make the retirement official. Sadly, shaq suffered from two back surgery than a span of five months in 2022. The surgeries were meant to correct nerve issue in Leonard's back but he was never able to return to all pro form. Ocho and surprising draft pick coming out of South Carolina State. Leonard took the league by storm. South Carolina State long. Oh man. Produced four hall of Famers. Marion Motley, Deacon Jones, Harry Carson, Donnie Shell. Despite a short career, where do you think Darius Leonard ranked as the greatest defensive players they ever come on the hbcu. Wow. Oh, we got some. We got. Because you gotta think about a lot of the guys Ocho, in the beginning that's where they came out of with black colleges.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So you got obviously the ones they mentioned. What's the guy? The linebacker from Sugar Bear from Kansas City street to Kansas City Chiefs. He went to Maryland, Eastern Shore, which I mean you got Ed2Tall Jones with the Tennessee State. I think Tombstone Jackson, man, he was a peaceful nominal. I really the only time I ever saw him play in college he played against Clemson and he was all over the field. Yeah, I think he had like 20 tackles against Clemson. And you're like, okay, this kid can play. Because if you can do that, look, you're vastly, you know they got. Clemson has superior athletes and here he is all over the field. Because if you, if you go to a. Let's just say you go to an HBCU or FBS team like that Ocho, when they cut the film on, you got to stand out. Oh, you gotta pop.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
So they cut the film on and they looking at somebody else, they're like, well, damn, who is that kid?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Who is.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, damn. He made another tackle in the third quarter. He got 17 tackles. Do you understand oo how good you have to be to leave it to go from an. In today's game go for an HBCU when they got. Think about how much money they put into these programs now. The nil money that they got and all the money that they're throwing at these kids and all these coaches that they got for an HBCU kid to get drafted to make a team. Do you know how special you got to be?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Darius Leonard was phenomenal and it's very unfortunate that his career got cut short because of that back injury. You know, a lot of times, you know, sometimes guys have back surgery, they get to get to return to normal, but sometimes they go in that back ocho and the guy is never the same. Never the same. You don't know. You don't know. But for five or six year stretch he was as good as their wars in the NFL. I mean you talking about a guy a three time first team all pro defensive rookie of the year, multiple time Pro bowl player. He was phenomenal. But that back injury robbed it, huh?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How long, how long did Luke Keakley play?
Shannon Sharpe
I think Keakley played like seven, eight years.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Okay, so yeah, similar.
Shannon Sharpe
Keakley was defensive player of the year, defensive rookie of the year. Probably like a five time first four or five time first team all pro, seven time Pro Bowler.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, he phenomenal and that's dope.
Shannon Sharpe
But calling the career rookie right hand the Cam Shitler. Schiesler. How do you say that? Last name. Ash Schlitler struck out 12 and eight dominant innings if the New York Yankees beat the Boston Red Sox. Yes. Four nothing tonight to win the ALCS wild card series in the deciding third game. Taking his taking his place in the Yankees red rivalry lure. The 24 year old pitched the Yankees to into the best defied division against Toronto Beginning Saturday, Yankees manager Aaron Boone said a star is born tonight. He's a special kid, bro. Sometimes. Oh, and a rivalry like Red Sox. Think about it. Red Sox, Yankees, Duke, North Carolina, Alabama, Auburn. You know, there are certain rivalries where the guy rise to the occasion and you'll never forget it. You'll never, you'll never, you'll never, you'll never, never ever forget, right? This kid right here did what he did tonight. 12 innings in a winner take off against your most hated, one of the most bitter rivals in all of sports. Now, you can say Yankees, you can say Yankees, Red Sox, Duke, Carolina, Alabama, Auburn, Raven, Steelers. Yeah, but if you look, the Packers, Bears. But if you're talking about history and, and how far this thing goes back because you got the babe leaving the Red Fox going to the Yankees. They're in the same division, the L East. They hate each other, they despise each other.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know the one thing I don't like about when the Red Sox play the Yankees on each game, take 12 hours.
Shannon Sharpe
Baseball take 12 hours.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, I just. For some reason, the game is so long when those two play each other. Specifically. Oh, my goodness.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, but that kid, that kid was dealing tonight.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He was.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, man. Boy, can you. Boy, if Aaron Judge would have win a, a World Series.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, hey, what's, what's my young bull. My young bull that played for the Marlins, that's there to kill them. No, he hit home run.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, Jasmine.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Giancarlo Stanton. Yeah, them boys, nice. Man, every time I think about me not sticking with baseball, man, you made the right decision. You remember I told you. I told you the story, huh?
Shannon Sharpe
No, but tell us again.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know, in high school, you know, I played football. I couldn't play soccer because soccer and football was during the same time. So my grandma told me, listen, baby, if you're thinking about doing something long term and taking it serious at a professional level, you got to pick and choose. It is going to be soccer, which I, I didn't have the resources at the time to, to take it. So he's like, well, football got to be your thing. So I took up another sport and that was baseball. So as a baseball player, we had scouts coming out to watch me, watch me pitch. They watched me hit. I was a good slugger. I played in outfield, I played third base, played first. I played shortstop. So they considered me, you know, an elite talent at that time because I could do everything. I could do it all. Yeah, I was a five tooler. I was a five. So the Marlins Came out there and they tried to draft me. I was only a sophomore in high school. Never forget 1992. So the Marlins was watching me. So by the time I graduated, right when it was, when I graduated, like, I was supposed to be part of the Marlins in the minor league. And I would have been part of that 1997 World Series team that won. And my uncle, my uncle was on that team. Charles Johnson, he was the catcher at the time. But I chose to play football.
Shannon Sharpe
Interesting.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And that's when I. That's when I. That's when I went to Langston. So I went to Langston when I really could have been on the Marlins roster.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, they say you was a five tool, mop, broom, lawnmower, edger, no rake.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nah, nah, nah, nah. I was really that boy in high school, huh? I'm telling you. Baseball, a baseball. I had four pitches. I had four pitches. That was money. Curveball, two finger fastball. I had a slide out this world, you hear me? I had a knuckleball. Hey, when I throw my knuckleball, it go like this and it dropped. Boom. I had an unbelievable knuckleball.
Shannon Sharpe
Boy, that kind of. Most knuckleballs do, but okay, I like that. So you had a two seam fastball, not a four. Scene.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, no two scene. Yeah, two scene. Just like this. That's how I throw it. Just like that. I hold it just like that. Then I had another pitch. I had another pitch cut fastball, grandma. Now, it wasn't no cut fast swerve. No, I. I nicknamed it. I call it the. Oh, hell no. Yeah, because when I throw it, when I throw it and it hit, and it hit the catch a mitt, they catch me like damn. Oh, hell no. Yeah. Hey, hey, I thought I threw about 100, 102. Hey, that day, that old hell no pitch any. Anytime I get in the jam, anytime I get in jam, you know the count. Three, three and two bases loaded. I go to that. Oh, hell no.
Shannon Sharpe
Well, you. Hell, you should have, should have stayed with that. San Diego Padres lost 31 to the Chicago Cubs in Game 3 in the wild cards and was eliminated from the playoffs. In the top of the night, home plate umpire D.J. rayburn called Xander Bogarts I on strikes and what should have been called ball four. The Padres weren't happy with the umpire and crew and made sure they knew about it as they left the field. Ocho, take a look at this video.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, let me see that thing. Let me see that thing. Oh, whoa, whoa.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, those players. Those are players.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Going after the umpire.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah. Oh, man. What's it called? Rob Manfred. Gonna put some. Gonna put something to y'. All.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Hey, listen, he gonna. He gonna. He gonna drop that gavel. He's gonna drop that hammer. Drop that hammer. But listen, whatever. Whatever he does come up with as. As consequences, it's not gonna go into effect until next year. Okay?
Shannon Sharpe
Hey. Okay. That's a suspended sentence. You don't gotta serve. You gotta serve till next year. You still got to go. You still got to pay that fine.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Something. Because you can't have it.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I get it, Ocho, there. I mean, I don't know. I don't know if I've ever been a part of something so egregious that would. You know, I hated to lose, but to lose to something so egregious, you know, he's like, give prime example. You remember the Rams and the Saints, when the guy from the Saints interfered with the guy. Rare.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, 43. 43. 43. What was his last name? Williams.
Shannon Sharpe
I mean, that. That was. That was so egregious. That was so egregious.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
No. Yes. Now, you know, had I been. If I'd have been. Yes. I'd have been. I would have been livid as Sean Payton was. And I can just imagine being a player because you robbed the team of an opportunity to get to the Super Bowl.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So you're absolutely. I mean, that was That. I don't even know. That wasn't even close. He didn't even look. He hit the guy way before the ball got there.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, God damn. I don't know what the.
Shannon Sharpe
I don't know what the real. Hey.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But, you know, it's. It's situations like that. It's plays like that that also make people believe the game is rigged.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes, you're absolutely right. And that's. That's the thing, because you and I know, we play the game. We know it's not rigged. But people see egregious plays like that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Plays like that with no call.
Shannon Sharpe
You absolutely. You're absolutely right. Oh, you're absolutely right.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You don't make it no better.
Shannon Sharpe
All right, Ocho, it's time for our final signal of the evening. It's time for Q and A.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, tell me what pitch you want.
Shannon Sharpe
Throw me a cut fastball.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Cut fastball. All right.
Shannon Sharpe
How much life time you think you got?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I got eight seconds.
Shannon Sharpe
What? That's 25 seconds, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
How you know I gotta take my time.
Shannon Sharpe
Stole second, third and home on you.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Not really? Because I checked second base. I checked.
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't look back. I ain't see you look.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I look back.
Shannon Sharpe
You ain't seen me look back the bag and balk. That's what I did see you do. Jason Zeldorf said what Rex Ryan said about Sanders is 100, right. It's easy for him to run his mouth on the bench when there is an NFL defense coming for your head. He hasn't proven a deep thing yet. Pro football has a way of humbling you up.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Well, he done went through the humbling stage already.
Shannon Sharpe
One of them.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He didn't went through that part already. So listen, I'mma talk my trash until I get in there. And all I got to do is back it up. And when it come to backing it up, it's something I've been doing all my life playing football. That's it.
Shannon Sharpe
You know what? Let me ask you a question. Oo did it seem like. Because Rex. Look, I'm surprised because Rex was the DC when time was on the team at the Raiders. I mean, at the Ravens.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
For him to say sit in the front row, it almost seems like he's speaking from like somebody told him that he doesn't sit in the front row. Doesn't it seem like that? Cause, I mean, I wouldn't. How would you know where somebody sit? How would you know? How does he know he's not sitting in the front row?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He probably does. Every quarterback sits in the front row. I don't even know why he said that. He was just talking. He was just yapping, but that's what I'm saying.
Shannon Sharpe
It seems like, man, you. I mean, he talking like somebody because you know how people moo. Coaches, you know how people talk. Oo yeah. So I just. I just wanted to get a chance. That's all. That's all. But, you know, I think the thing is that when you say you can do something and you haven't done it yet, you put a lot of pressure. You put a lot of pressure on yourself. Because I like it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Because that's why you got to believe in yourself.
Shannon Sharpe
Yes.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You got to believe yourself. When you believe in yourself, you talk like that. Now all you got to do when you talk like that, you got to walk it.
Shannon Sharpe
Bingo. Wolf had facts said. Ocho, I'll be your. I'll be in your jersey at game Sunday, even though my team don't play in Cincinnati till December. Hope you can sign it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, hold on. Let me show you something. Let me show you my jersey. Hold on.
Shannon Sharpe
What jersey? This man got.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, hey, remember the leaping tiger? I got me a T. Higgins was made.
Shannon Sharpe
Oh, so. Oh, I thought that's the jersey they gonna play, man.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I thought, nah, this, this is a Jersey from the 80s. But I put T. Higgins on there. Yeah, yeah. And we. And we go and we gonna beat the line.
Shannon Sharpe
JJ Said, I like that he went for it, but I don't like the play that he called. I do too. I mean, look, it's. If he throws a. Look, unless he got it on fourth down, everybody was gonna be say, if he throws it, it doesn't get it. They say, why'd you run Kyra Williams? You run it with Kyron Williams and he doesn't get. You say, man, but your guy got damn near 400 yards. You got Puka Natukua, you got Devonte Adams, and you got Atwell. And you, you can't get one.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
You know what I would have did? I'm not Sean McVeigh, I'm not an officer coordinator. But what I would have done is whoever the Titan was at that time, I'm going with the quick play action fake and make them think I'm giving it to Kyron Williams and I'mma thumper right over. Remember that play Tim Tebow ran when he was there?
Shannon Sharpe
Florida jump past?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, I would have did something like that. Threw everybody off.
Shannon Sharpe
Timothy Humphrey, if the Rams kicker had made the extra point. We're not even having talking about the last play call. Hell, if that was the case, what about all those kicks that he missed the previous week? You remember how many, how many did the Eagles block? Paul third said, be a be real. The Rams one and two bad teams. One and two bad teams lost in Philly. Almost lost to the Colts. Are the Rams getting over hype? No, I think the Rams are a really good team. I really do.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Very good team. They not overhyped at all. Absolutely not.
Shannon Sharpe
But you got to realize, I mean, the margin of error is really small in the NFL. This ain't college football where teams be beating teams by 14 and 21. Nah, the margin of error is really small. And it's the little fine things, you know, a block punt, a block field goal, a miss this or miss. That is the difference in a ball game.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And you know what's so funny? When you talk about the difference in the ball game, a lot of people probably won't realize, but they break it down for us. Coaches say it all the time. Let's say you have a. You have a game where you run 80 plays out of those 80 plays. You know, it's only two or three plays that make a difference in a ball game. Two or three plays. And it's so funny how Marvin would bring us in and break it down and show us how many plays we run and then break down the three plays that actually made a difference in the ball game completely. And it is. Is crazy.
Shannon Sharpe
Andre Carr said, facts. Ain't no one want to see Bengals on Thursday Night Football. And don't.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Simmer down. Simmer down. Because y' all wouldn't have this energy right now if Joe Burrow was healthy.
Shannon Sharpe
Same energy. Josiah Throng your own coach Mike Shanahan said, don't let Pery out of the building. And M. Jones is a statue in the pocket, okay? He's athletic enough. You make it seem like he Jalen hurts or. Or Josh Allen or. Or Lamar. Come on, bro.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
The hell you talking about? Tighten up, tighten up. Jit. We don't see me with this all black on Little Pete.
Shannon Sharpe
29 said. What's up? Other no show. Love the show. Rank these groups. Temptations, Isley Brothers, OJs and the Dales.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
But what you know about the Dales, boy?
Shannon Sharpe
Isley Brothers for me first. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Over the temptations.
Shannon Sharpe
Over the OJs and the Dales. I would go Isley's. It's a toss up between the temptations and the OJs.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Listen, I'm going with the Temptations first.
Shannon Sharpe
Absolutely.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Listen, stay with me real quick now. This is my era. This is my era. Now. He got me hyped up. He got me hyped up with this question. I'm going with the Temptations First. I got the Isley. Second. I got the OJ's. Third. I got the Dale's four.
Shannon Sharpe
OJ. Isley. Isley's a one.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
No, sir. No, sir. That's not even your music. You don't even listen to. I listen to that. That's my music.
Shannon Sharpe
I know the eyes lose one now. Trill Brown said, in your prime. What team in today's game would have give you the best advantage where they throw to the tight ends? Now all of them would have gave me an advantage. Ocho. Everybody used the tight end. Now. It was absolutely. Because all these guys are athletic and. And what looks like the only difference between when I played and now there are more guys to do it. There were a handful of guys. That was when I was in the 90s. There were only a handful of guys can do it. You had maybe three, four guys, tops. That was a legit Receiving threat at the tight end position. Now, right now, you got 10, 15 of these guys. Game has changed. They throw it. They. They throw the ball. I'm not saying tight ends couldn't catch back then, but. But was nobody designing no play really? Designing no plays? You really had to stand out to get plays called for you at the tight end position, right? Man, I see these guys like they throw the ball to him. 97 say, Here we go again. Cut one, trade one. Antonio Brown, Calvin Johnson. Tio, what you got? Oh, you got two guys. You got. Oh, you got AB From Miami. You got Megatron, and you got to.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
I thought he. They asked you to do that.
Shannon Sharpe
No, he didn't ask me. He said you. I already. I already know where you going. I bet y'.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All.
Shannon Sharpe
I bet y' all know where you going.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Wait. Cut, cut, trade.
Shannon Sharpe
Wave. You got Megatron a B, T, O.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
What was the first one?
Shannon Sharpe
Calvin Johnson.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Not the name. I'm saying the. The. The scenario.
Shannon Sharpe
One. Trade one. Well, damn, you getting rid of all of them. I thought you got to keep one.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
All right, all right. I'm gonna keep. I'm gonna keep to trade a B. I'm cutting Megatron.
Shannon Sharpe
I know you gonna do that. I knew it.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, y' all better stop asking me. Hey, I don't care who it is. If it's a B. It could have been a B. Randy Moss and Jerry Rice. He ain't cutting AB he ain't cut nobody.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
So unless you know, you know, you know. Tio, that's. That, That's.
Shannon Sharpe
I know. I know you. I, I. That's what I said. I already know what you gonna do.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
Cooper. Dione. Oh, Eagles putting BTA on your team Sunday ain't happening. We gonna win that game. OO what game? Broncos against the Eagles.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hey, boy. Hey, Yobo made me laugh. Matter of fact, matter of fact, AJ Brown probably gonna get past 13, 150.
Shannon Sharpe
Yeah, you know that ain't happening.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Might gonna get 13, 150. Man.
Shannon Sharpe
G said unan Oo. Does the NFL have a poor, lazy coaching or does it come down to politics? We see so many players go to other situations and prosper. Why do these coaches franchise give up on players so quickly?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Cause, well, it's really not. Not the franchises. It's the system in which they go to. That's all it is. That's all it is. Look at goddamn Baker Mayfield, Cleveland, hello. Look at Sam Donald in New York. Look at Sam Donald in Minnesota. Hello. Hell, look at Daniel Jones. Prime example. New York to Indianapolis man playing out his goddamn mind, man.
Shannon Sharpe
Cause, bro, it's too much money at stake. They're not letting you develop. Not when I got to pay you 300 million at the end of three years. I'm not.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And Brady just talked about this. Yes, you just talked about that. Not giving players time to develop because of the investment that you have to put into them. After year three.
Shannon Sharpe
Reggie Brown said, oh, can you imagine Cal with an elite quarterback? Matt Ryan, mvp. Yes, yes. Matt Ryan was a statue. Matt Ryan got to a Super bowl, had a 283 lead. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Run the ball.
Shannon Sharpe
Buzz Lightyear 12 says if you could go back and play baseball instead of if you can go back and play baseball instead, what position and what team would you want to play for? Yankees. Also, let me get your World Series prediction for this million dollar parlay I'm about to hit. Oh, I'm playing for the Yankees and playing right field.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
That was.
Shannon Sharpe
I'm throwing the ball from right field. I got a cannon. I can throw the ball, Elto. I can throw the ball. I can throw the ball from right field. The home plate ball. Never gonna hit the ground on the cannon ball. They gonna hit the ground. You know that pitch you say you got? Oh, hell no.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah. Nah, you ain't, you ain't got no. You ain't got no. No, you ain't got no.
Shannon Sharpe
Man, all the rocks I threw over the top of them big ass pine trees. Hell no, man, look at. Don't take my parlay because I bet, I bet I go with my heart. Yankees, Dodgers. I'm taking the Yankees.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one.
Shannon Sharpe
He said, I had a similar, similar injury to your bro. Big bro. Story four, herniated disc in the cervical C2 through C6. At the same age he was. My question to you is, how's he doing and how does it affect him day to day at the age he is now? He fine, you know, I mean, he played golf. I mean, so he don't do anything other than that. Now right now he's down now because he had another surgery for his retina, had another eye surgery, but he's fine. He hadn't had any problems. I mean, he had a hip replaced. Oh, he about to get his knee replaced, so we better get his knee replaced in the next six months. But no, he thought he got around fine. No, he didn't. He didn't have any. Any ill effects? No, no problem. He never complained about anything. I don't know. They took a bone out of his hip and, and fused it. And so obviously, you know, he doesn't have. He can't, you know, whip his neck around like that. But, but, but no, he fine pim for said. Do you think Rod Smee Smith took away from your J's chemistry? Nah, hell nah. Now look, it's only a certain amount of. Look, you only get so many years. It's being number one. Look at Jerry. Young guys come, they gonna eat. You know how it is, man. I'm the Serengeti. Them young lions come, you got to move out the way. Ah, I was, I was happy because I knew how hard he worked to get in that position and I knew, you know, look, I'm gonna do what I do. But nah, hell nah. Rob was, it was ready and hell, and hell when I got out the way and went to a Baltimore not look at it. 100 catch, back to back season. 1600 yards, all first team operate. No, no, no, no, hell no. Rob was, Rob was ready to do his thing. Aaron Jones said, oh, we have a different OC every year. How can it get solved when the system changes every year? Petula has been bad, but it's only four games. Yes. I mean, it's pretty much the same system. Because he was up under, you know, the guy. Now I don't know, because Kellen Moore system was different than Steichen. You know what I'm saying? So that's what happens when you're good. Teams come steal your coaches. Team come steal your players. That's what happens. You want that? I mean, yeah, that means you have a really good coaching staff. And, and that means you have really good players. He's lost in the last, what, three years, four years. He's lost two OCS and a D.C. yeah, that's what happens when you're good. People come steal your players. Dag naughty cobbins. Some families function better with a little dysfunction. Fly, Eagles, fly. Maybe you're right. Like that Beard Game 268 said. Oh, you always say never accept anything in a win you wouldn't have lost. Why should AJ Brown accept lackluster passing game? But that's how their offense is set up. They're not equipped. See, you're asking them to be something that they're not. Ocho, can you tell them they're not gonna let Jalen Hurst throw that ball 35, 40 times a game unless they have. Yes.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
And most of the times, the only way they have to is if they're behind.
Shannon Sharpe
And how often are they behind?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Not very often. They Were behind three. Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
AJ went off, went crazy. So bag on hand said, ocho, if you flew to Cincinnati to give that sorry team a pep talk, you have too much disposable income. Don't waste your money when you owe 5,900. I agree.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I use that 5,900 for the NBA young boys.
Shannon Sharpe
I ain't ask for that.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, hey, I know you didn't, but God told me to get them. God told me to get him.
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all said, take that money. Take that money and pay. Pay.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
It's too late. I'm gonna see. I'm gonna see you October 13th in Miami. Hey, matter of fact, guess who just text me.
Shannon Sharpe
Top. Who?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Top can be a young boy. He watching the show. He said he appreciate the support. He can't wait to see you.
Shannon Sharpe
The only Top I know is a Curly Top, former bodybuilder.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Nah, his name Top. His name Top. Oh, you gotta. You gotta get hit, man. You gotta get hit.
Shannon Sharpe
That's gonna pass me by. What he is now. Samuel Legrand said WI Fi is cooked like Ocho had. Ocho sounded like Tio crying about his quarterback. Rashad Vaughn said all YB fans put it 38 in the chat. What that mean?
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, why be fan put a 30 in the chat?
Shannon Sharpe
Y' all try to get. Y' all try to get YouTube to take out money. Don't put no. 30 in the chat.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, no, no, no. 38. It ain't nothing bad. We ain't talking about that kind of 38. Nobody use that no more.
Shannon Sharpe
Things Tim's. Oh, Tim's. Tim's. I might have to send y' all some nyquil. Between Ocho's voice, Unc sniffing every time he makes a point, something must be going around. That's my. That's my signature. You know, when I get. Mm, that's my tail. When I met. When I knew how to hit that out of dread. I point home.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah, that's my thing.
Shannon Sharpe
Shoddy T said, oh, got that Southern, Southern home. Wi Fi, y'. All. I don't know what happened. That's the first time it's really happened like this here. I don't know what's going on. Maybe everybody else on their wi fi tonight. Dc, Alex, 24. Come on. And Ocho, Y' all know lamb is top three. Three time. All pro, back to back. And that's what Dak being hurt in 24. I mean, look, I. I think Chase and Jetta are the top two now. We start, I mean, you know, Almond Ross, St. Brown, before Tyreek got hurt. Aj CD I'm trying to think who we missing? Ocho. Puka. Puka about to get paid. Ocho about to get paid.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Absolutely.
Shannon Sharpe
Hey, fam. Dr. Frankie Bellamy. Say, hey, fam. Have you ever heard about. Heard of Josh Gibson? I absolutely have. Most Home runs, over 800 home runs in the Negro League. Satchel page, two of the most absolute best baseball players in history. Absolutely right. I think Satchel Page pitched the game at 59 because, you know, before, you know, they were old, Ocho, before they, you know, the. The. The first black player that was 47 when Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier. And then I think Larry Doby was the next one. And then you started getting, you know, infiltration a little bit after that. But by that time, Ocho, them guys were.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So their best years were spent in the Negro League. We didn't get their absolute, you know, the absolute best. I'm not so sure Jackie Robinson was the best player, but he was the best player for that time because you had to swallow a lot. You had to take a lot. You had to deal with the pause. I know y' all said some bull job, but, Ocho, you had to listen to the end. You had to listen. You know, not being able to eat in the restaurant with your teammates, you had. There's a lot of stuff that you had to go through, and. And everybody wasn't built like that back then.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Yeah.
Shannon Sharpe
So you have to pick and chew, like, okay. Because it's like when Coach Robinson said the guys, he said, look here. I think tank younger. He said, look, you the best we got. If you don't make it, they ain't gonna come get nobody else. So in order for others to get an opportunity, Jackie had to take a lot. He had to take a lot. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank each and every one of you for joining us again. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle, Shannon Sharp. And that is my partner and co host, Liberty City's own Bingo's Ring of Fame honoree, Pro Bowler All Pro Chad Ochocinko Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed, wherever you get your podcast from. I like to thank each and every one of you for your support and your continued support because thank you for helping Nightcap become what we become. Make sure you go check out Shay by La Portier now. If it's not in the city or state near you, order it online. We'll ship it directly to your door. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Go follow my media company page, Shay Shay Media on all of its platforms and my clothing company, 84. With 84 being spelled out, that link is pinned in the chat. We've got nominated Ocho for a couple awards here. Signal Awards. Let me find them right quick. Under genre, Best Sports podcast and under video Best Video Podcast Co host Team Ocho and I've been nominated for two Signal Awards. Make sure you go out there. I think the voting ends October 9th, October 10th, so please make sure you cast your vote. And we got nominated for two awards on Club Shishay as well. Make sure you go vote for both Club Shae Shay and Nightcap. Your participation and your vote is greatly appreciated. The 49ers beat the Rams in overtime 26:23 Ocho. The 49ers improved the 4 and 1. The Rams dropped to 3 and 2. Kyron Williams had a costly fumble and he got stopped in overtime on 4 through 1. And that is how the 49ers went on the road on a very short week and won the game to go to 4 and 1 and the Rams fall to 3 and 2. We're off tomorrow, but we'll see you with Johnny Manziel on Saturday after college football. I'm Unk. He's Ocho. Thank you guys for joining us. We out.
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I had an incredible time at this year's iHeartRadio music festival and even got the chance to hang out with Diplo and Bailey Zimmerman while I was there. How did Ashes come together, Diplo? I pulled up real quick.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He was about to leave on tour.
Shannon Sharpe
You're about to jump in your tour.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Bus and we had like three hours.
Shannon Sharpe
It was really cool.
Chad Ochocinco Johnson
He really just like randomly showed up to my house and I'm like, oh, hey Diplo, what are you doing? He's like, I have a song that.
Shannon Sharpe
I want to show you.
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And I was like, okay, you can.
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Host: Shannon Sharpe
Guest: Chad Ochocinco Johnson
Main Topics: A.J. Brown Eagles trade rumors, Justin Jefferson’s future, Jaxson Dart’s chip, Yankees beat Red Sox, NFL/MLB talk, Q&A
This episode features a lively and candid conversation between Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson focused on major NFL headlines—centered around wide receiver drama (A.J. Brown, Justin Jefferson), young stars with chips on their shoulders (Jaxson Dart), and a dramatic Yankees-Red Sox MLB playoff result. The pair delivers hot takes, player perspectives, locker room insight, and plenty of humor and banter along the way.
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Shannon and Ocho keep their trademark balance of in-depth breakdowns, real locker room takes, and kinetic humor. Hot takes flow, pop culture references abound, and player perspectives shine through their personal stories and Q&A. Fans of football, baseball, and athlete banter will find the episode packed with quotables and laughter.
For fans, this hour is a can’t-miss blend of real NFL/MLB talk, elite-level wide receiver confidence, and the kind of back-and-forth that makes Club Shay Shay a must-listen each week.