Nightcap Hour 3: Aaron Donald THINKING About RETURN + Q & Ayyyyy

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 3: Aaron Donald THINKING About RETURN + Q&Ayyyyy

Date: June 4, 2026
Host: Shannon Sharpe (with Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, "ISO" Joe Johnson)
Episode Focus: The potential return of retired NFL star Aaron Donald, NBA Playoff breakdowns, audience Q&A, and trademark banter about sports, life, and nostalgia.

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Episode Overview

In this wide-ranging Nightcap session, Shannon Sharpe, Chad Ochocinco Johnson, and ISO Joe Johnson dive into headlines surrounding Aaron Donald possibly returning to the NFL, dissect the latest NBA playoff action (notably the Knicks’ continued win streak), and field questions from their energetic audience. The conversation fuses serious insights on sports legacy, player motivation, and strategy with playful banter, personal stories, and irreverent humor.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Aaron Donald Flirting with NFL Return (02:52–06:12)

• Breaking News: Aaron Donald tells reporter Jordan Schultz he's "flirting with the idea" of returning to the Rams, citing the Super Bowl window and if he can "find the fire."
  • Quote [02:52]: “I’m for sure flirting with the idea. Hell of an opportunity with the super bowl and so far this year. If I can find the fire, it’s a possibility.”
• Panel Reactions:
  • Ochocinco's Take: Doubts about it being the "greatest defense ever" but acknowledges Donald and Miles Garrett together would be a legendary pair. Emphasizes how hard it is to return after two years off despite Donald’s continued workouts.
    • Quote [03:18]: “I don’t know about the greatest defense ever, but it’d be two of the greatest players ever. Lace him up on defense.”
  • Joe Johnson: Focused on the mental aspect—finding the passion for the grind again is crucial.
    • Quote [04:05]: “Did you hear the key word? He has to find the fire. That ain't easy, fellas. He been sitting down chilling…he in great shape. Do I think he could come back and still be effective? Hell yeah. But you have to want to put your body through that rigorous NFL season.”
  • ISO (Shannon): Discusses acclimation challenges—reigniting instincts (“spidey senses”) after long absences and whether Donald’s legacy even needs another campaign.
  • Legacy Assessment: All agree that Donald’s Hall of Fame resume is secure, with or without a comeback.

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2. Show Banter: Cities, Food, Nostalgia (06:45–15:22)

• Chicago vs. New York Pizza (07:04): Classic city debate, playful ribbing about who knows the best pizza.
• Old War Stories: Stories of hangouts in Chicago, running into Obama, old jerseys, and game memorabilia exchanged, sparking playful side bets, dares, and jokes.
  • Highlights include Ocho wanting Shannon's Ravens jersey for his "nightcap sign," disputes over memorabilia value, and a running joke about Ocho’s infamous brief Ravens tenure.
  • Quote [10:57]: “What you want me to do, Chad? I go to a team and I win a Super Bowl. He want me to renounce my rights because I wasn't there for 15 years?”

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3. NBA Playoff Breakdown – Knicks vs. Spurs, Key Players & Strategy (23:51–69:51 interspersed)

• Knicks’ Winning Streak: Recap of the Knicks' 12-game run, with Jalen Brunson scoring 13 in the 4th quarter to seal game one against the Spurs (final score: 105–95).
  • Quote [73:30]: “Jalen Brussel scores 13 in the in the fourth quarter as they get over the hump. And they've won 12 consecutive games...the second longest streak in NBA history.”
• Tactical Analysis:
  • Karl-Anthony Towns (“Cat”) as X-Factor: Panel agrees Cat offers a different dimension than OKC’s Chet, challenging the Spurs’ defense.
    • Quote [52:42]: “Cat is the X factor. The Spurs haven’t played a big like Cat in their finals run.”
  • Brunson’s Performance & Defensive Assignments: High-volume, tough shot-making balanced by discussion of defensive schemes, e.g., Spurs needing to make Brunson “work on the other end.”
    • Quote [53:13]: “Tonight he didn’t settle [for threes]. Did he even shoot a three tonight?”
  • Role Players’ Impact: Discussion of guys like Hartenstein, Cornette, Champagne, and the key bench player Harper, who’s “too good to stay on the bench” for long.
  • Spurs Adjustments: Limiting Brunson, getting more from Fox, and making lineup changes as series progress.
  • Bigman Matchups – Wimby’s Development: Need for more post presence, referencing Kareem Abdul-Jabbar’s style as a template.
    • Quote [62:40]: “Women gonna have to play 38, 40 minutes a night. Yeah, I don’t know what, I don't know what they thinking about. His ass got to be out there.”

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4. Listener & Audience Q&A (29:32–69:51, various)

• Road Trips, Nostalgia, and Critiques:
  • Military listener “Z” asks the trio to critique each other's careers—responses fuse humility, jokes about health, and reflections on playing style/choices.
  • Quote [30:39] (Ocho): “If I would ate better, I'd probably been hurt like everybody else. They ate healthy.”
• Personal Triumphs/Challenges:
  • Heartfelt moments—listeners share overcoming depression, losing family but succeeding later in life, and celebrating sobriety.
    • Quote [71:49]: “Congrats for your sobriety. Like you said, one day at a time, bro…we’re proud of you here at Nightcap, man. Keep it going.”
• Team Allegiance Jokes: Banter about Cowboys, Bengals, and side bets.
  • Quote [45:44]: “Well, you rooting for the damn Cowboys here.”
• NBA Deep Cuts:
  • Audience trivia and hot takes fuel debate on coaching, bench players, and historic squads (comparing Joe’s Hawks and Suns teams, discussing 2004 Suns’ dominance, etc.).
  • Quote [68:04] (Joe Johnson): “With y'all in 2004, playing on that Suns team with Nash, Amari, Sean, Quentin Richardson…it was gon’ be hard to beat us, bro.”

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5. Cultural and Movie References (Throughout, esp. 64:39–66:40)

• Engaged Q&A on favorite Black exploitation movies—citing classics like “I’m Gonna Git You Sucka,” “DC Cab,” and “Car Wash.”
  • Quote [65:21] (Joe Johnson): “Yeah, that’s a good one. That’s a good one.”

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6. Humor, Stories & Old-School Memories (Throughout)

• Foot Care & Life Advice: The trio riffs on pedicures, the importance of “living not just being alive,” and playful “rookie tips” for relationships.
  • Quote [40:59] (Chad): “Y’all alive, but you’re not living. I say that all the time.”
• Fishing, Bowling, and Misc.: Bids on who’s the best at bowling, stories about fishing gear, and challenges for future competitions—even whose feet are more busted.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (w/timestamps)

• “If he comes back, he’s a top five defensive player all time based on his body of work.” – ISO/Shannon [05:32]
• “He knows what it’s gonna be like in week eight—you banged up and sore.” – Joe Johnson [04:21]
• “I won plenty…on Madden.” – Chad Ochocinco [11:51]
• “Brunson showed up, but the Spurs played their worst game all playoffs. Don’t celebrate too soon.” – Listener message [58:41]
• “Y’all be gassing Ocho up, man.” – ISO [58:28]
• “Lost my dad at 12, grandma at 15…Celebrating feels empty…How do you do it?” – Listener [69:51], response by Shannon [70:04]

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Timestamps for Core Segments

• Aaron Donald Return Discussion: 02:52–06:12
• NBA Playoff Analysis Starts: 23:51, recurring through 69:51 and beyond
• Listener Q&A: Key questions begin at 29:32 and continue intermittently
• NBA: Knicks 4th Quarter Recap and Analysis: 73:30–75:00

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Tone & Language

• Informal, witty, and often irreverent (“y’all”, “man, listen”, “bro”).
• Banter switches quickly from sports breakdown to playful teasing, then to personal reflection.
• Down-to-earth: language feels like a barbershop or locker room chat—accessible, relatable, and authentic.

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Conclusion

This Nightcap episode is a lively blend of headline analysis—like Aaron Donald’s possible unretirement—deep NBA insights, and the chemistry-driven banter listeners come for. Between jokes about memorabilia, reflections on life and legacy, and strategic hoops talk, it epitomizes Club Shay Shay’s unique energy: part sports brain trust, part reunion of longtime friends, with space for heartfelt audience engagement.

Ending Note [73:30]: The Knicks are three wins away from their first NBA title in over 50 years thanks to a late-game surge, teeing up even more debate for the next show.

Transcript

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[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Joe, what's up? I don't know if you want to hear this.

[Joe Johnson]

What you got, man?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Aaron Donald text reporter Jordan Schultz Tuesday night and said he's considered returning to the Rams, the text read. I'm for sure flirting with the idea. Hell of an opportunity with the super bowl and so far this year. If I can find the fire, it's a possibility. Ocho, if AD Miles Garrett on the same D line with Fisk and with that great rotation they got where you think it is, could this be the greatest defense ever?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

I mean, I don't, I don't know about the greatest defense ever, but it'd be two of the greatest players ever. Ever. Lace him up on defense. I don't know about the greatest defense, but what did I say when, when, when Miles Garrett, when we talked about this night before last, I said there's a good chance because Miles Garrett is going there. Even though Aaron Donald has not played a down in two years, but he's consistently stayed in shape, he consistently worked out. But there's nothing like actually playing football. There's nothing like actually playing football. But knowing Aaron Donald and what he's already accomplished, if there's one reason to have to come back that makes it easy and want to get another super bowl champion championship is right now. Hey, it's right now in that window for the that window for the Rams. This is the time to do it. If he's going.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, listen, I, I understand it's very intriguing for him to come back, but did you hear the key word? He has to find the fire. Hey, hey, that ain't easy, fellas. He been sitting down chilling. Yeah, he been working out. He in great shape. Do I think he could come back

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

and still be effective?

[Joe Johnson]

Hell yeah. But you have to want to put your body through that rigorous NFL season and he knows what it's like, bro. He knows what it's going to be like in week eight, you know what I mean? When you banged up in sores. I don't know what. Yeah. He know what that's like, bro.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

It's just hard when you step away from the game like that, Joe. O. Joe. And you. Oh. Oh, Joe. We know how it is when we just gone. When we just miss. When you put them pads on, take them off. Once the season's over and you don't really put the full pads back onto your training camp, it takes you a while.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

To get everything. Get readjusted. The way that thing feel and get your body used to carrying those pads again, you get your spidey senses tingling. He's been away for two years. He used to automatically know. Oh, man, this guard sitting like somebody hit him somewhere. He knows this is. The trap's coming. He's gonna have to relearn all that. His spidey senses will have to start tingling again.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Could he do it? Yes. But like you said, Joe, to find that fireman, he walked away and said, man, I just didn't have the desire.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

And it wasn't like they were a bad team. Nope.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

No, no. Hold on. He walked away with nothing else.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what I'm saying.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

What do you want to prove now? Let me ask you a question. If he comes out of retirement and he plays well, will you think any different? Aaron Donald, eight time first team all pro, three defensive player of the year, defensive rookie of the year. I ain't got nothing. Yeah. I'm gonna make a case if he never comes back. If he comes back, he's a top five defensive player all time based on his body of work and the level of play. Even if you just take the awards away, which you can cut the tape off, right? Yeah, just cut the tape off.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

That's all you need to see.

[Joe Johnson]

And a guy like Aaron Donald, y' all know he want to come back and dominate. He ain't trying to come back.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yes. Yes. He can't be average.

[Joe Johnson]

No, sir. He don't know what that's like. He ain't no way in here.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

And the funny thing about it, too. Think about them having a double team mouth. Think about them having a double team mouth and try to double him.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

That.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

That opens up everything defensively. They can do that much more because of those two on that line.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, hey, he'll make that defensive line. Hell, no. He come back.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Oh, yeah. Oh, we.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Man.

[Joe Johnson]

I don't want him to, though. Stay your ass at home.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

It's time for our final segment the evening. It's time for q.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, are we leaving already? Hey, anybody in the chat in Chicago got a nice soul food spot.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, you better get you some good pizza in Chicago.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, they know for pizza.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

I thought New York was known for pizza.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Chicago and New York, both of them are known for pizza. Chicago, known for the deepest.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, okay. Where I go, you go.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I don't live in Chicago.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

But you just said it over pizza, so I'm thinking you probably know what,

[Joe Johnson]

Chad, I would say Giordano's, but I know it's been around for quite some time.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Ask Chad.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm sure they'll give you.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Man, I left Chicago in 1970. He's Georgia. I'm a Georgia.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Oh, you from Chicago? Are you from Chicago?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I'm born in Chicago.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, it's so funny. Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, you weren't on here, though, right? Is it some. Some you didn't know? You know, when I. I used to be in Chicago, I used to be in Chicago with Obama.

[Joe Johnson]

Doing what?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

You know, me and Obama, we gd. God, dog, you ain't know that.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, nah, I know that. Ojo.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, this throwback to this back.

[Joe Johnson]

What's the GD sign? How you throw gd?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

I ain't gonna do that on here.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Hey, Joe, now if you want. If you want to look at this right here. Yeah. Eddie autographed them. Now, if you really want to put something up to try to get these.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, oh, oh, listen.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, look at this. Hey, Joe, he on your head.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Joe, can you see that signature?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I see that signature, man.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Hey, Took it right off his feet. Go look at the game that he played. That he played the Nuggets, he played in them. I went right back there to the locker room and got him. He found it.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, boy.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

I got some stuff over there on the. Man,

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

he got signed. Curry signed. LeBron sign. You got anything signed for LeBron?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I do.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

And you got.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, I got a lot of stuff. Slide. Hey, I just let people. I just let people talk. You know, somebody was on the COVID he would cry. LeBron won't come on. If you only knew some of the things that I. I ain't gonna say nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

Right, right, right, right.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Because you know they're gonna be bad. They'd be bad, they'd be bad. I'm gonna let it go, but don't worry about it. But I got from Kobe, got.

[Joe Johnson]

I think.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

You know what? I might put those on when I. I'll shoot you in the three point competition.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, don't, don't.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

And he coming at you don't diminish

[Joe Johnson]

the value on them shoes. Okay, don't. Don't. Don't do that. Don't do that. Please don't do that.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Oh, you. Oh, you want me to wage him against you? You want to put something up against them?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Since you in the mood of giving, because that's basically. That's basically what the hell you gonna be doing. You're gonna be. You're gonna be giving them to me. Hey, hey, hey. I got. I got some stuff over here.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

If we play the Cowboys, Joe, when we play out, I don't know we play y', all, but if we do, that's an ass cutting for y'. All.

[Joe Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

When we play y', all, we bet that you gotta wear a cowboy jersey when you.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

We played the rape. We. Y' all play the Ravens?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I'm gonna make sure I. I got one with your name. What you. What you need? By the XL two way.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

What you need? Nah, I need more than xl.

[Joe Johnson]

You need two xl.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yep.

[Joe Johnson]

I got you.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Ocho. Just in case you didn't know. What did I say?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Let's say Shannon Sharp, 80. Was that 84? 2,000.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yes. Established in 2000. I played for the Ravens. So. See, when y' all keep talking about. Oh, man.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, we didn't. We didn't doubt you. You didn't play for the Ravens. The fact that you was only there for two weeks is the part that we keep talking about. No. All right.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

What you want me to do, Chad? I go to a team and I win a suit bowl. He want me to. He want me to renounce my rights because I wasn't there for 15 years.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

I didn't say renounce your rights. You. You're a Denver Bronco.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Nobody.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

When we talk about Shannon Sharp, we remember Shannon Sharp as a Denver Bronco. That's it.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, I got. Yeah. Super bowl, one Ravens. You know what? See how you. How you do. Oo. I don't be bothered. Nobody. I mean, Chad, I was there. I went there. I. I did what I was supposed. Supposed to do as a veteran guy. Come in there, practice hard, show the guys what we. How we gonna do this thing and win a Super Bowl?

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hold on. I. I practiced hard, too, but, hell, I didn't have a number one defense in the NFL. Hey, it's all good. It's all good. Listen, I won plenty. I want. I won plenty of rings and championships on Madden.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man, I'm Just.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

I'm just saying, Joe, I had to settle for that.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, that game won. That thing got a little dirt on it. Got a little grass things on.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

New jersey from the Super Bowl.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

There should be a patch over here, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

I see it. Yeah, yeah, I see it. I see it.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Because sometimes Ocho don't think I'm playing for the ring.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, hey, let me. Hey, let me get that.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

No, hold on. Why you want to get this? Do you have your own. You don't even wear your own jersey. You don't have your own stuff hanging up?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

I. I don't know, man. I just, you know, I'm not in the memorabilia.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Why you want my jersey?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

I just want. I'm gonna put it, you know, under my nightcap sign.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

No, no, you ain't got no damn nightcap. Your nightcap sign anymore.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

It's right there. It worked. You see, I got me YouTube. Plex.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Where, man? That's right.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah, man.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Somebody put that up with a ruler. Hey, hey, Joe, they use. No. They use. No. They ain't use no. No. No levels or nothing, Right?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

All right.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

He just put that up with eyesight.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Now it's even though.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Who told you that?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Well, yeah, y' all wait.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Wait.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Wait till I get my room done, y'.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

All.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, y' all gonna be happy. And I. I ain't gonna tell you when it's done. I'm just gonna.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Everything will be lit up all nice.

[Joe Johnson]

You gonna have that thing where. It's. Where it follow you around so we can see different angles and all that.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah. Cause, you know, I like to get up and demonstrate stuff, so when I get up and demonstrate, my camera gonna follow me.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Okay.

[Joe Johnson]

All right.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, but I'm saying, the. Ocho. I mean, you ain't even got your own jerseys hanging up.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Oh, you know, I don't be into that stuff, man. I don't be into that stuff.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, I probably should have had him. I probably should have had to watch the jersey before

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

now. It looked better like that already. It looked better dirty, though, I guess.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I guess they don't have to authenticate it, because they can. Look at that. So. Yeah, that was actually jersey worn in the game.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah, that was game one.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, for sure.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they're probably gonna be. They're gonna be worth a little something now.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Well, the kids.

[Joe Johnson]

Look at it.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Oh, yo, look at what I got.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Who that? Who? Hey, that. That's. That's Pickens.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Who? Carl Pickens.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, that's probably the nicest. Hell, my job Ever had, Ojo?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, our helmet's still the same. Same stripe, same everything.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I got the game ball against y', all, too, O. Joe.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

When the score was.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I don't know, but I had got my 533 26.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Damn, man.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I mean, I had some good day. I had some good moments against y'. All. Oh, and this was at y' all place, too, Ocho.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, hey, listen, I. I wish I had all my stuff from when I. When I used to douse the Ravens up. Hey, Joe, I used to be getting the boys.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Gave me that work, man.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Getting them boys at work.

[Joe Johnson]

Boy, I got.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I got a couple game balls against Cincinnati. You got any game balls against Denver? Yeah. You Jody play against them?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, I do. Hey, hey, Chat, tell him. Tell him what I did against Denver Monday.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I remember that. When you pull up there in that dunk, huh?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That was the jets and. And that was the Post. I'm talking about what I did to Denver.

[Joe Johnson]

What you did to him, Ojo, man.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Man, I ain't wanting to brag, but I'm sure the chat know what I did Monday night to Denver. You cut, Rub, man, listen, I. I cut the rug and took it home, Joe. I cut the rug and took it home.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

But, Joe, when you. When you decide what you want to wager to try to get these Kobe's up off me, I mean, I either want. You want the Kobe's or you want the steps.

[Joe Johnson]

I mean, you showed me them Kobe's. I ain't gonna lie. I kind of want them Kobe's. Now, them co was in that Louis Vuitton ball. Whatever.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

We.

[Joe Johnson]

We could cornhole it. We could shoot jumpers.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Oh, you know, you're not winning that, Joe. I want to give you something that you could possibly win, like basketball. You're not gonna. You can't beat me in no cornhole, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, I'm telling you, if. Listen, if it was just me and you, it would have been a little different story. I had Ojo in my damn way.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, I mean.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, listen. You got. You got bigger fish to fry with me, so you might want to start with Unc first.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Hey, I keep telling y', all, we go bowling. Whatever you want to do with Joe Ocho.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, we.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Hey, hey, hey.

[Joe Johnson]

We see how that turned out, so we ain't got to talk about that.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

No, I gotta get. I gotta get to go knee healthy first.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, no, I only want to get you back out there. I'M not really. I did a mean demonstration on you.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Nah, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I got my own,

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

but. What's that? What side? That's eight pound ball. That ball looks small.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Hey, Ocho, you know what I'm saying this. I. That's how I normally do it right now. Oh, so you don't thumb. You know what I'm saying?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, show. Hey. So, hey, Joe, that's exactly how.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, no, I don't feel you. What you mean?

[Hyundai/Adam Devine & Blake Anderson Narrator]

Don't worry.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I gotta play for my own. My shoes.

[Joe Johnson]

I see, I see.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, your knees ain't good.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, man.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I mean, hey, the. The jail shots did be a little good. I might need to get me a couple of motor.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, you look like one of them cats when they come to the gym. They got the Jordan sleeve on.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

They got.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, they got the jersey tucked in.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Man, I used to go to the bowling tournament all the time, you know, you go to a bowling tournament and, you know, hey, you get your ball, you get a bag. So, like every time I go, I get a ball, I give me a bag. I don't know how. I don't know what happened to that. Now when I pull out that big play, shave all.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

All I do is hold it like this in the pants fall. Yeah, I already know what's gonna happen, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, come on.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I just hold the ball up.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Come on.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

I. I don't believe it.

[Joe Johnson]

I seen it. I don't believe it. Yeah.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, I saw it, too. I still.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm the best bowler you ever played against Ocho. You ain't all. You know it, Joe.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

You drink wine.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

The best.

[Listener/Caller]

Who?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I drink wine. The best bowler you ever played again?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Best bowler I played, best bowler I played against. I beat him.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I'm putting. I'm putting this bottle of wine up to it for you, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

What's that? That's red.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

That's a cap. That's red. Back to back championship wine.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Why it's so little?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I got the big bottle. I don't know. I think I might have gave the big bottle to my brother.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

That ain't nothing but a swallow.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

But that's all right. Joe ain't gonna get it.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, I'll get all that memorabilia you got over there.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

What's up?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, I got all that. He ain't got nothing better than. Oh, let me. Let me see what kind of memory I got.

[Joe Johnson]

You ain't got Nothing over there.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Nothing.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

I do

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

see, we got this. We play like a raven. Yeah, that's what we do. We play like a raven.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Hey, Ocho. This is Ocho Go like, right here. Ocho what?

[Joe Johnson]

Ojo go like.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

What about these? Ocho?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

There we go.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Okay.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

What you know about that? Hey, you ain't even got. You ain't got. Hey, Joe, I got something. I got. I got.

[Joe Johnson]

What the hell is that?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

No, hold on. These just ain't any flip flops. These Neymar. Neymar.

[Joe Johnson]

Wardies. Neymar Warm.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah, he wore these and he gave them to me.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Man, you put your feet.

[Joe Johnson]

Man, I'm cool on the flip flop.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah. I saw a dude in the back. I saw a dude at the airport with flip flops in the bathroom

[Joe Johnson]

and throwing flip flops. I ain't. I ain't about to have my feet out like that. No way. I'm just gonna keep 100.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, your feet bad, Joe.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

I'm just saying.

[Joe Johnson]

Hold on, hold on.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I already know, Joe. I don't see today. You got them hammer toes, toenails probably black.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, now my toenails ain't black no more. I got. I got all that out of there. It's over with that.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Oh, you. You took. You got them pills or you took the shots?

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, hell no. I soaked my feet in apple cider vinegar.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Epsom salt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do that to get that to get the fungus out of there. I'm good now.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joe, hold on.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

So you don't.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

You don't want. You don't want. Name? Marcel.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, what I'm doing with that.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hold on, hold on.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

What about this right here, Ocho?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Nah, I got something better than that.

[Joe Johnson]

You got the little flip?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, you know. Hey, Joe, I got that with the glimmer. I got the. That one and the small one.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, Joe, you know who phone this is? This is Pablo Escobar phone that he used when he was in Miami.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Hello?

[Joe Johnson]

How you get that?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

What you mean, how I get that, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, who you calling?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, Joe, you want to play for this? This Pablo Escobar?

[Joe Johnson]

I don't want that damn phone talking about Pablo Escobar.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Nah, I'm good.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

You ain't got nothing, Joe. I keep all my phones. Joe, do you? Hell, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

You got. I'm saying, you. You still got the Rolodex in there.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

You still go.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

You.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

If you.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, okay.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

This right here called me a lot of problems. I'm done. I'm done. Hey, so if anybody watching this. And you know what? I was. And you know what? I had this. Yeah. Don't be expecting no calls.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Because it ain't happening.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, my. My kid. Hey. My kids must have took my basketball.

[Joe Johnson]

That LeBron James one.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, baby. Man, with my LeBron James basketball at.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey. Oh.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Huh.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay. Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, hey. I got a life size bobble here. I'm had to bring it down here so y' all can see it.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Hey, you want to shoot for it, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I. I see you got a little bundle over there. You got a little package over there. Yeah, yeah, I do.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I mean, I mean, clearly, you say you want the Kobe. You saw the Kobe, so you want the Kobe.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, they. Hey, hey, it's gonna look better over here anyway. Hey, Ocho, I'll tell you what I'm gonna do for you. We'll get you a real sign. Ball by. By LeBron. By LeBron James.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Okay, well, hold on.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

I. I got, I got his 40,000point ball when he scored.

[Joe Johnson]

49. Cut it out, O. Joe.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, them kids that lost my ball, my ball not even in my closet, man. They probably took my ball.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, it's time to cut it out. We gotta get you right, Ocho.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

You right, though. But I, they, they, they hard now. Look how many I had.

[Joe Johnson]

Cigars. Some cigars.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah. You, you, you got to have them in the humidor, man. Ain't no good now.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I keep them. I give them to my homeboy. My homeboy smoke them and get high. They probably like weed now. Or should the thing so punchy.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, you know you don't want

[Joe Johnson]

that Pablo Escobar cool on their phone, bro.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, I got like. I got like 15, 16 in my phones.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Damn. I don't give them back.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, you. I bet you ain't got no sidekick.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I ain't had a sidekick, Ocho. I ain't had a sidekick.

[Joe Johnson]

I had a sidekick. You had one, Ojo.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, I had that.

[Joe Johnson]

Flip that thing up real quick.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

This Joe right here got me a lot of trouble.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep, yep.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Ah.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Who. Who went through your phone?

[Joe Johnson]

What do you mean you could lock it?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

All you had to do is just get somebody to get it and you open it.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

What you call them? Is it star 69?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Every time I got the phone, I called my sister. Star 6 dinette. I called my Sister, my brother. Before we get to the super chat, we got two video voicemail from our discord. Let's take a listen. Here's the first one.

[Listener/Caller]

Good win for us guys. You know, love the show guys but I just want to say the job ain't finished. We got three more to go. And we, we was a little rusty but we, we, we did what we did. We do. We've been winning. Is that 12 wins in a row? Not even sure but I, I think we can sweep them. I was still Nixon 6, but I think we going to sweep them. This was a great game. Ratings had to be through the roof and we had everything we wanted. The commission was there. Fan running on the court. Hope we don't get too long for prison time, but it was a great game. Hey, enjoy the show. I gotta deliver these Santa tomorrow anyway. I gotta go to Austin and sanitary so I'm gonna wear this under my uniform. Hey, good night guys.

[Joe Johnson]

God bless.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Appreciate you, bro.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn sweet.

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[UnitedHealthcare Representative]

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[Joe Johnson]

New car.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yep.

[OnDeck Representative]

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[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Buckle up.

[Hyundai/Adam Devine & Blake Anderson Narrator]

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[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

So can you drive carpool every day.

[Hyundai/Adam Devine & Blake Anderson Narrator]

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[UnitedHealthcare Representative]

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[Hyundai/Adam Devine & Blake Anderson Narrator]

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[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

All?

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talkaboutpd.com Joe Talking Sweep Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

See. See how he get carried away? Damn.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Ocho say they might sweep them too.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, listen, I be.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

No, I ain't say that. I said. I said Nixon 6.

[Joe Johnson]

I be. I'll be that confident too. Hell, if I just swept through two series, you know, win the last three

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

games of another one.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

All right, let's take a listen to our next one.

[Z (Military Listener)]

What's good? Un OO and still hello, you feel me? My name is Z. I'm from Louisiana, but I'm in the military. I'm in the Navy. Specifically, I'm traveling all the way from north of Virginia to San Diego, California, by car.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Z (Military Listener)]

Yeah. Anyways, they say the best critics are the ones closest to you. So if you could all critique each other, say one thing that they could have done better in their career, you know, on the field, on the court. For you, Joe and Ocho, what other games you play other than Madden? Because I'll bust your ass by 45. I already seen what sketch did to you.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn. What, we critiquing ourselves?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

No, us

[Joe Johnson]

on what y' all could have done better? Yep. I mean, damn, that man got three damn Super Bowls over here.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Oh, that's. That's a good one. What could I do in Cincinnati? Not really. If I would ate better, I'd probably been hurt like everybody else. They ate healthy.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Nope.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yep. I don't know. I don't know what I could have done better, man, because you know, I didn't. I played the game for fun, man. I played the game for fun. I played a child's game that I. I got paid pretty well for, you know, and ignored the business side of things and enjoyed it.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

That man said he driving from Norfolk, Virginia to California, which is 2710 miles, and he drove straight. It would take him 40 hours.

[Joe Johnson]

Ain't no way.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Theoretically, you're supposed to drive about, what, 10 to 12 hours a day? Yeah, that's about a three day trip. They say to make it enjoyable, you probably should take about six to 10 days.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

That's.

[Joe Johnson]

That's ain't no way in hell. I can't sit in the car that damn long, man.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Ain't no bad Look, I got to take a trip tomorrow.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

He might, he might be moved. He might be moving, huh?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, I'll be moving. Somebody else will be gonna be moving. I'm gonna be on a plane and then. But he was in a car. He said he's in the car. But can you imagine being in a, a U Haul and having to drive that far? Oh, hell no.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, it depends on who you driving

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

with, who I'm driving with.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

You never know. Some people you drive with make the

[Joe Johnson]

drive shorter than what it is, like road trip. Hey, you gotta like road tripping and all that, though.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I mean, I like, I like, I like rolls up, but it ain't tripping. You trust me, it ain't no trip. Me, I just, I can't. I just. I mean, I just hate. I just hate being in the car that length of time, right?

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, I'm right.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

What do you mean that length of time, huh? You flew way to. You flew way to. Room for some yay.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

And in my hips and knees, if mama was in Rome, I go back again.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, after three hours, I'm hurting, fellas. I ain't gonna lie.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Oh, I'm hurting after. I'm hurting after hour, man, I'll be getting over there walking. I was like, man, can this plane please get to 10, 000ft so I can stand up? Man, my knee is killing me.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, Joe, that's my limit.

[Joe Johnson]

What's that, three?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah, three. Because, because, I mean, I, I hate to bring up the past, but, you know, Uncle Joe, Joe, you know, Tampa was, was my, my limit spot.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

You feel me? And I would go, I would go back and forth to Tampa and, you know, three hours, that's my sweet spot. Anything over three

[Joe Johnson]

action out there in Tampa, I know it was way back when. I know you, I ain't no trouble.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, it wasn't that far back.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Stop lying. Yeah, it was way back. Yeah, it was. Yeah, yeah, Joe, but. But you know, your first, you know, you, you come here, you know, I come there.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I used to roll. I used to road trip to Tallahassee.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

How far that is from Savannah?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, yeah, about five hours.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Oh, God damn. Huh? You drove five hours for somebody.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Oh, hey, what happened with hell? When I went, I put a car. Oh, hey, she told me, hey, will you go come see me right now?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, hold on. I know it's a five hour trip, but how long it take you to get there?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I mean, my homeboy went, yeah, yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

you had to, you had, you had to take somebody tag along now.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, for sure.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joe. Right about now, Joe, what's that? But the way things going. But I drive from Miami to Boston right now.

[Joe Johnson]

Miami to Boston. Yeah, I know you were.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, it was four. Four and a half is 300 miles. Four and a half. It took me about four hours because I was humping. I was humping.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Okay, okay, okay. I like it.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I bet it. What you call them, I bet at a black college beach week. Black Holly be. We got there black color beat.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah, what's up?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

She said. I said, well, you know, where you go to school at? She's like, I go to. I go to Floyd. She's that for. She ball went to Florida State. Oh. Which.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, what? She was what? She was light, bright, damn near white.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

You already know. You already know. You already know, man. I say, well, dang.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I said, you got somebody? Nah, not really. How is not really? That means you got somebody. Really.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

But you know, you. Boy. Let's ride. Boy, that black color be. We. That thing was something for me. Oh, wait, they still got it.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

They still have it.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Oh, yeah. It's still. They still have it. Yeah. Y' all wanna.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Y' all wanna. Y' all wanna. Y' all wanna go ahead, bro.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I got grandkids. I ain't going to hang out no damn college kids. I got grandkids. Well, you shouldn't take. You shouldn't go now, but I bet. Boy, I met Wando. Ocho.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah, like that.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Boy, look here. I met her at April back down there in June. She's a table. She's from Tampa.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

You took that long?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Well, she had to because she came to see me first.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Okay, okay, okay.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

You talk about body.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

What's her name? Hey, hey. I bet she had. She had the pixie cut or the finger waves.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

No, she had. She had long. No, she was thin.

[Joe Johnson]

She was.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

She probably weighed. She's about five. I said she was about five, six, probably about. Probably about one. I think she said she weighed 115.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, she had, like, some curly hair.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

115.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Like. Well, you. Hey, listen, everybody that knows sharp know when I was that age, what I dealt with primarily.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

You talking about body that was put together.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I'm talking about tight. Tight. I'm talking about tight. Tight.

[Listener/Caller]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Mean with it. I already know.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. As a matter of fact, you ain't got no picture. Oh, I got pictures. No, but the thing was, I was to this day, I still. I still keep in contact with her.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Shut up. You don't say.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

No, no, no, no, no. That. That been. That. That's over. That's been. That's been 15 years ago.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay, so now y' all just got a straight platonic relationship.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Straight. She all. She always asked. She asked about my sister. She asked about my brother. She know about my ass. How the kids do it. Yeah, yeah. Strictly. No, hey, hey, hey.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, That's. That's. Hey, that's normal. Hey, Joe, that's normally half nothing start.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Look, we. Look, we had our moment. We had our time, which from. From 20 from. I was. I met her at 24 to about 33. Yeah, yeah, but ain't. Hey, ain't.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Ain't nothing else. Yeah.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Me and mama locked in. I'm locked in right now. Oh, oh, oh, okay.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

My bad, my bad, my bad, my bad.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I like you.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

I like you. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Since you locked in, that. That. That means. That means we that much closer to this triple wedding.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I'll do something. I'm telling you. I'm gonna get married. Y' all playing.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, what would you. What you think in 2027? What? Because think about how much money we'll save if we do the wedding all at the same time.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

So we all walk down the aisle

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

at the same time. We all have a different entrance. I'm gonna do the catering, and I'm gonna do the. The music.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, What'd you think, 20, 27?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, we could do that. You saying.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, we can do that. That's in, like, six months. 20, 20.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

You. I. I wanna.

[Joe Johnson]

I want.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I want a Jew. I want a summer wed. I want a June wedding.

[Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, hey, let's. Hey, let's do it on the beach, too, so we. We ain't got to wear no shoes.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, no, no. I gotta have my shoes on.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, man, Come on, y'. All.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Nah, my. Hey, what? My feet. My feet look like my feet? Perfect, though.

[Joe Johnson]

Y' all gotta chill. Oh, act like he ain't been over there kicking bricks and like his feet don't look like he been kicking bricks.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, I feel good, Joe. I feel good, Joe. Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you gonna get a work done every week, don't you?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I do. I get a baddie petty every single week.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah. Oh, I. I go. I go. Hey, I go every Friday. I kind of. I kind of been off because I've been traveling a little too much. But Joe, I go every Friday. Joe. Hey, Joe, you gotta have. You gotta have your woman, you know, on your toes.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

What you mean she don't suck on your toes?

[Joe Johnson]

I told you. Oh, yo. Oh, so I told you, man. I ain't no freak like that. I don't need all that. I don't need my toes. I don't need none of that.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yo, you got. I'm dope, Joe. God damn, man. You don't do.

[Joe Johnson]

I have a good damn time. That's what I do, Jack. Cause I don't do none of the stuff that you got going on, you know? Are we good over here, Ojo?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

All right, all right. You know. You know what? I'm not suggesting nothing else for y' all to do, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Good.

[Listener/Caller]

All right.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Good. You shouldn't.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

I mean, the stuff I'm mentioning, that's elementary. That's rookie stuff.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, you advanced, ain't you,

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

man? Listen, man, I'm just trying to get y' all to crawl before you walk, man.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Oh, Joe. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good, Ocho. I'm good.

[Joe Johnson]

Whatever.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I hadn't tried whatever experience, I don't think. I don't think I missed out on anything. I think I had me a good time. Well, I could have me a good time, you know.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Right.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I've been some places.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

There's certain stuff y' all got to experience, man, before. Before we, you know, before we transition. That's all. Man, I'm just trying to get.

[Joe Johnson]

But, but, but, but, but what if we having a good damn time, which I'm talking about.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah, but. Yeah, Joe, that's the problem. You think we're having a good. A good damn time. But you. You're not even doing everything. That's.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

That's everything ain't for everybody. Didn't they tell you. Didn't your people tell you that? Chad, what's wrong with this, man?

[Joe Johnson]

They know that boy number one. He's number one freak. They all know that.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

And then. And then.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

You ain't got nothing to do with that. It ain't that. It's about living. Ain't got to do with no freak or none of that. It's about living.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Y'.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

All. Y' all alive, but you're not living. I say that all the time.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

My problem was I live too much. But anyway, can I get a birthday shout out? I'm 30 today. Born at 30 weeks. 90 days in the nick. In the nick. Living with cerebral palsy. And I'm still standing strong. Aaron, happy birthday, bro. Happy birthday, Big three zero. My nephew had a cerebral palsy. Obviously, the tech. The. The technology is not what it Is now. And he passed at a. At a young age. So my heart. And that was the foundation that I. I supported when I went on Jeopardy. And I won. I donated my winnings to cerebral palsy. So my heart goes out to you, bro, because I know what you're going through. So congratulations, and happy 30th birthday, bro. Happy 30th birthday. Sincerely, demon. Two times ISO. Congratulations. So glad it's official.

[Joe Johnson]

Appreciate it. Appreciate it, man.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Hey, man, like a whistle.

[Joe Johnson]

I have a good time with these boys, man. Yes.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. Make sure. Make sure after we play. After we play ball, man. Just keep that same energy, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, bro. All right.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

I can't believe the kids lost my LeBron ball, man.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Probably in the yard shooting with it. Ocho was right again.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, Lord.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Ocho. No ball just made me. 800 bucks on the Knicks.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

See? You see what I'm talking about? That's 800 more than what he had before. Why? Because he listened to me. I'm making. I'm making people money out here. Manon coins I got you.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

It says, I saw your video with Neil. You need to set up a debate between Neil and OO since he don't believe in science. We need to send you an oo to the moon to do a YouTube show from the moon. Make it happen, Eli.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, who is Neil?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Neil Degrasse Tyson. He's the astrophysicist. Physics.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

He got a He brilliant. He, bro. He's. I. I did I just sit down with him. He's on. He's a club chaser this week. When I say he brilliant, he brilliant. He br. Let me tell you what he did. Oh, Joe. They was doing the movie Titanic. He told, you know, and I guess he called and told him what? Because it would say it doesn't look realistic because what you're shooting. That's not what the weather was on that day that year. Say, this is what the weather was on that day that year. So what you see in the movie. That's him. You could ask him something. Hey, man, what was the weather like? Such and such. What day did such. He can tell you.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

What was it? What's his title? What's his title?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

He's an astrophysicist. Physicist.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Okay. Okay. He.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Man, he was. He unbelievable. But he like. I mean, he, like, you know, he can tell you, like, the spin rate of a football and. And baseball and. And. And when you throw the football, you're not throwing it. You got to have a. A projection. So you're throwing the ball. The ball is going to travel at this speed. The wind is blowing at this. The guy's running at this level of speed. This is where the ball's gonna need to be thrown in order for him to catch it. He's like that. Okay, so Joe, you shoot the ball or the move. He gonna say, joe, you move it about two miles an hour. Obviously, there's no crowd, there's no wind, and you're gonna jump probably this high. So this is the angle in which you're gonna have to shoot the basketball in order for it to go in. Anything to the left, anything to the right or not, this trajectory is going to be off.

[Joe Johnson]

Damn.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Now it was. It was unbelievable conversation, man. Ocho, does that mean ISO gets the official Nightcap swing set?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, nah, you know what? I'm not offering them nothing. They. They don't. They don't. They don't want. And they. They so elementary when it comes to that stuff, man. I'm gonna let them go ahead and do what they do. Like. Like Unc say, man, it ain't for everybody.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

No, it ain't. Go ISO. Joe about to rep and defend my Cowboys all season long.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, Joe gonna be hurt.

[Joe Johnson]

Who gonna be hurt?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

I mean, just.

[Joe Johnson]

You need to.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

You need to chill.

[Joe Johnson]

Don't be trying to speak no bad juju on us, partner.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

I ain't speaking no bad juju. I'm just. What happened the last 30 seconds.

[Joe Johnson]

Stop talking about that. That's old, man.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

We.

[Joe Johnson]

We can't do nothing about that. We can only move forward. Let's look forward.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Well, y' all been looking forward to pass, all right? Hey, I tell you what. I'm rooting for Pickens, and I'm rooting for Dak, and I'm rooting for cj.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, you rooting for the damn Cowboys here.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

No, he said he wanted them to have good numbers and lose.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on. Come on. Now. We already. Look, I already. We already got a bet that the Cowboys record gonna be better than the Bengals any damn way.

[Listener/Caller]

Well, you.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Well, you. Well, you're a fool. We got a defense now.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Ojo peak. Ocho picks as good as the Knicks. He got them as champs in 6. And ISO gotta be sick. Oo gonna go ahead and talk your ish, man.

[Joe Johnson]

Come on.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

He doing good right now. East coast cast. Like I said, Nixon, five. I caught it right here on Nightcap. The Knicks are unstoppable. I don't want or ISO moving the goal post either. Nah, they win. They win. I mean, because the spurs are a very hot team. They Beat the reigning champs. They beat the two time league mvp. And if the Knicks knock them off, The Knicks are the best team. You don't accidentally win four games.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, no, no.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

You might play good for one and win one game, but to beat a team four times? Nah, you the better team. Yep. Oh. Oh, Joe, as an Eagle fan, I appreciate you guys being real about A.J. brown last season and giving locker room insight. Man. Hey, you see Jordan, my lotto said he's a. I'm just. Thank God it's over with. Yeah, because don't you. I got to talk about it all the time. Yeah, we ain't even really talking because now we talking about what? Did you see AJ on the sideline? Did you see this? You see that, Bro, I want to talk about the game. We won or we lost. I'm gonna tell you why we won. And. And then I'm gonna have to give you a reason why we lost. I ain't talking about no individual player. And I sure got tired. It starts to wear on you. It really does.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

But AJ Looked happy today. I mean, I saw him out there running rides and he seemed like he had a big old smile on his face. So he seemed happy. I'm sure Philly is happy because they get draft compensation for him. Hey, it served him well. Everybody benefited. Yep. He won a championship. He was a major contributor on a championship winning team. You could never take that away from him. Now he gets to go somewhere where he wants to be happy and move on with his career. Hey, we're just wondering. Do you regret calling Julio Jones on live TV the Falcon without him knowing? I regret a lot of things. I had a conversation with Julio. I've talked to Julio several times. That was a very, very unfortunate situation.

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[UnitedHealthcare Representative]

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[Joe Johnson]

New car?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yep.

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[Hyundai/Adam Devine & Blake Anderson Narrator]

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[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

So can you drive carpool every day?

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[UnitedHealthcare Representative]

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[Joe Johnson]

All?

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[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Cat is the X factor. The spurs haven't played a big like cat in their finals run. If Cat can play like that and the Knicks can win, shout out to jb. Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Right.

[UnitedHealthcare Representative]

Look, we.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

He was the first pick in the draft, Joe. I mean, come on now. What are we doing here? We know what he can be. It's just that sometimes he settles for threes.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Tonight he didn't settle. Did he even shoot a three tonight?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I think. I think he was like 0 for 2. I think he took.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Okay.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Over two. He was over two.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

But what did you see him do more times than not put the ball on the floor and get to the hole.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yep. Not selling. Yep. Not selling for a lot of them jump shots. And you're right, this probably the best big that the spurs have seen because Minnesota would go. Brad, you know, he. He's not a guy. Yeah. Who they just played. Hardenstein ain't no. Ain't no threat. You know, so he can kind of play that free safety, but hell with the Knicks. Hell, he got to respect all them guys they got out there.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yes. Why is Brunson not getting the defense that SGA got? They did. I mean, you got to realize. I think he just got hot that quarter. We saw Shay get hot cast. I mean, the guys were doing a good job on him. Yeah, he shot the ball 31 times. Yeah, he got 30 points on 31 shots.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they done a hell of a job on it.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

They did a hell of a job.

[Joe Johnson]

They just won the game today, fourth quarter. He got away from that.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, he got, he got, he got hot and, and I'm sure had they, you know, maybe they go back and says, you know what, let's, you know, let's bring the double or let's trap him to get the ball out of his hands. But 12 or 31, you got to live with that, that shooter percentage.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I mean, way.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

That's way, way under 40.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah. What he scores 17 in the fourth.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

He's going 13.

[Joe Johnson]

13 in the fourth. Yeah, that's half of them. That's half.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

That's definitely half his points. Yes.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Cornett is a liability. Do you guys agree? Women cannot catch a breather. Cornette. Cornette is goaded for the simple fact of the play that he made on Hartenstein in that last game. But he has not played well. With the exception of maybe one game, he hadn't played well. No, like you said, he can't get Wimby, can't take. Because I'm sure they would like to get Wimby some. A decent rest. But when he goes out, it starts to slip away. Guys go to the paint and I thought, look, the Knicks did an unbelievable job tonight inside Joe. They got a lot of their points in the paint.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, they did. They did. He did. Hey, look, I think cornet. Hell with 10 minutes he wasn't doing number running. Damn wind spin sprints.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

That's it.

[Joe Johnson]

But that's all. That's all he need. He only 8 to 10 minutes, man. Women gonna have to play 38, 40 minutes a night. Yep. Yeah, I don't know what, I don't know what they thinking about. His ass got to be out there.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Spurs got to make Brunson work on the other end, go at him. Just can't let him guard Champagne. He likes champagne on him. Tonight he might have to stop watching. Look, Champagne knocked down some shots. Champagne is not a guy that you put the ball in his hands and say, okay, go to work. He's a guy that likes to stand behind the three point line. He'll fill the lane, but that's his game. Yeah, Vassal can put it on the floor, but Vassal does. Excuse me, Vassal Vassell does more shooting from the outside than putting it on the floor. He's a great rebounding guard. Get some put backs. The guy that will attack him is Castle and Fox and Harper and they do a great job of keeping him off those Guys, they do. That's why you got a Josh Hart. That's why you got a Mikhail Bridges. That's why you got an og. Look at who they were guarding. OG opened up tonight on Fox.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

they're not gonna put. They're not gonna put their guy and have his guy try to tire him out on the other end. No.

[Joe Johnson]

That's what they got them guys to do all the dirty work.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Same thing with Shay. You're not putting Shay on one of those guys. Nope. I need Shade to rest. Fox has been the downfall for the Spurs. Hadn't had played one good game yet. He's played some good games. Has he had those, those 30 point outbursts like we used to see him have all the time against the Lakers the last couple of years? No, no, no, no.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, they gonna need a couple 20 points.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

They might need some 20 pointers.

[Joe Johnson]

22, 27, 25. They gonna need him to have a couple of those games for them to be effective in this series.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Let's go. Next, baby. They got the brooms. Harper is going to have to eventually be a starter. He's playing too well to continue to be on the bench. He will, but unfortunately I don't think he's going to start this series. Do I see a situation? A situation we enjoy and I, we talked about this way early. And I say he's just too good to come off the bench.

[Joe Johnson]

He is, bro. He just too Damn good. Number two pick rookie that's 20 years old with the poise and patience that he has, big body. It's going to be hard to keep him on that bench.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Y' all should go on location to New York for the finals. Y' all will shut the city down. New York with your Y hands. ISO. Dallas won't win till Jerry. Stop. Stop watching.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, man. Come on, come on, come on. You gotta chill. Hey, hey, New Yorker. Trample our ass. We go out there.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah. Yeah. Three things guaranteed life, death and taxes. And 85. Getting these predictions right and still king ISO.

[Joe Johnson]

Hello.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Y' all be gassing. Y' all be gassing. Ocho up, man.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey. Hello.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, come on. Come on, Joe. Come on, Joe. You got chill.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Brunson showed up, but the spurs played their worst game all playoffs. Don't celebrate too soon. You'd have to pray the spurs play that bad every game to win this series.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Oh, here we go. Here we go.

[Joe Johnson]

They. They didn't make shots, man.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

They didn't. I so up. When y' all go fishing and you see Ocho hooking Rose sparkle. This line don't be like, stay with me with the fish bite gonna be expand. Trust me. Reaction be. Love the show.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, that's a good one.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I just need Ultra tell ISO to tell me what we going fishing for. ISO tell me he going fish for anything that bite.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, what we. I mean.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, hey, hey, Uncle Joe. I told y' all winning basketball.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

They got everything you need in that on there.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

But I don't listen. I don't know what I'm looking at, but they got a lot of it. They got so many efficient rods. I'm like, my goodness. Hey, it was. It was nice. I just don't. I just don't know what anything is, obviously, but they got top jigs.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Rebels, all that. And you know, I'm.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

I should. Is that expensive? You know how. You know how golf.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

So fish. So getting it. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I was.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

I just. I just thought I might just get into it because I'm in Miami, but.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

But I beat Joe with a cane pole, man, please. Matter of fact, I get. Hey, as a matter of fact, I'll fish deadline.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh. Oh. I'm telling.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

No, nothing.

[Joe Johnson]

I'm trying to be cool with you. This really ain't what you want. I'm just gonna be 100 with you. This ain't what you want, man.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I do, Joe. I'm just telling you.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, I don't like the smell of fish. It make. It make your hands stink.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah. You ain't no real fisherman.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Sure like the smell of something else. But anyway, guys, I hit the big 47 today. Can y' all give your boy a shout out? Thanks so much. Love the show. Absolutely. Happy 47th, bro. Congratulations. That means, hey, happy 47. Magic three from five. Zero. Man, you did something fun, man. I don't know what you did, but you should have done something fun. 47. Round the sun. It's a big feat, man. Congratulations. Congrats. ISO officially the big three. You think Ocho need the hot spurs? None to put them ringside when you put those Bud Crawfords on it,

[Joe Johnson]

right?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Mitchell out. Coach Harper not. Not playing down the stretch. Fox three turnovers.

[Joe Johnson]

He did.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

He didn't play well. He didn't play well tonight. I think Joe and I, we open that. We open up like that, say he did not play well. He's gonna have to play better. Seven points won't get it done. Your starting point guard can't give you. Can't give you seven Points in this series.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you're right. And I ain't gonna lie. I was thinking that too. Like the last three, four minutes, I'm like, damn. He might need to go with Dylan Harper down at the point. But I know Fox, you know, Fox is Fox. You know, God making a lot of money. You can't. You ain't gonna just throw him to the bench. But no, man, it would have been hard for me to keep harp on that bench, boy.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

And you can't allow Bronson to outscore both of them.

[Joe Johnson]

You can't. You can't.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

He outscored both of those guys.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

And I'm counting on both of those guys production to neutralize Brunson. Absolutely.

[Joe Johnson]

Absolutely. And look, if Fox ain't gonna be making shots, I mean, he's scrappy on defense. I give him that. Like he gonna try. He. He move his feet.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

But it's just.

[Joe Johnson]

It's just hard to keep him out there, man, if he ain't gonna keep applying pressure, you know what I mean?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Women shoot too many three point shots. If women get a sky hook is over and shoot, that is unblockable, fellas. Jump shot is unblockable.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he ain't.

[Listener/Caller]

He.

[Joe Johnson]

He.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

He's gonna have to get stronger to be able to play down to, to, to set a position. Established position closer to the basket. It takes so much out of him because he starts so high up. If you go look at Kareem, Kareem started down on the block.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, great.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Like I'm getting down there. And they, they tried. But hey, go talk to Kareem. And hey. Because Kareem had really basically the same type of a frame. Yeah, Kareem ain't have no. Kareem was, Was wiry, just like Wimby. He wasn't. No, he wasn't an overly big man. If you look at Kareem, not Kareem, damn near probably like 20 pounds heavier than when he played.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, you got.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

He ain't gained a whole lot of weight, Joe.

[Joe Johnson]

Absolutely, absolutely. Wimby has to learn how to hold his position down on that.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yes.

[Joe Johnson]

That's the one thing he tried.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

He could.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

He couldn't move Mitchell Robinson.

[Joe Johnson]

No, I know he can't. I'm saying he ain't. He ain't got enough bricks in his back pocket to, to, to. To stand his ground and be able to even give a damn post move because they so physical with him. You know what I mean? Like I'm say, by the time he get down, the hell he tired as I Don't know what. Yeah, that's why he floats around the perimeter because it's less resistance. He know those guys can't put their damn hands on him. Yeah, right.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Oh, you made a. You made me watch AMG and Malice. Okay. I love A Few Good Men, but boy, Malice had my heart beating. So. At my mofo chairs. Congrats, ISO. Stay on them guys neck.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir. You already know it.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

What up, Big Three? Congrats ISO on the promotion into full time. You have been a great addition and still also we must recognize that OO has elite basketball knowledge. Oh,

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

hello.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

What's your favorite black exploitation movie? My go to is Rudy Ray Moore, Human Tornado and anything with Pam Greer. Maybe Penitentiary.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, you talking about when they, when they carved up out of there and got up out of

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

you say ride him Dead.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a whole movie, ain't man? Yeah,

[Listener/Caller]

Man.

[Joe Johnson]

Probably. That I like.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I'm Gonna get yout Sucker.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Oh, yeah, a D.C. cab.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, I rock with that.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, Joe, you remember D.C. cab?

[Joe Johnson]

No, I don't remember that.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Oh, okay. Remember?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I remember here. I didn't watch it. Car wash. I watched.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Oh, no, it was, oh, it was. I think it was Taxi. I think it was Taxi. The original Taxi.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

The white movie. Taxi.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah. No, yeah. No, it's like old school. Wait, is it, Is it Taxi? Hey, I, I, I know, I know. I'm not tripping. It's back in the 80s.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

So much about Blaze with Cleavon Little blazing saddle.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah, 19. 1998. Huh?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

1998.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

1998.

[Listener/Caller]

Yeah.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Who's in it?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

I'm trying to think. I'm trying to find a cast.

[Joe Johnson]

Car wash. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Wait. Is this the right one?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I don't think so.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah, it was, it was two. It was two. It was two cab companies. The Yellow Cabs and the Green Cabs. They, they was, they was going at it. I'm trying to think if it's the right one.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I don't think Wimby has perfected picking his spots on the floor. At times he can try to do too much, which results in turnovers. He needs to let that spin go.

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I think when he started trying to go off the dribble a little

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

too much, that's when he's going into traffic though, Joe. So they're coming from the backside to pick him.

[Joe Johnson]

Well, here's the thing. Here's the problem you have with the spurs. Whenever Wimby is on the perimeter. It's five guys on the perimeter. It ain't like it's a.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Two guys ain't got nobody can get down on the. Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Johnson]

So you got five around the perimeter, so there's not a lot of space to really operate, you know what I mean? And he's trying to operate in between guys, and it always results in the turnover, so I, I understand for sure.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

And plus, Joe, with all five guys around there, it leaves very little margin for you to get an offensive rebound. Yeah, everybody's already outside the paint.

[Joe Johnson]

Yep. Because they, hey, they rely so much on Wimby, the hell if he ain't up under that goal, you don't get no second chance opportunities.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Ocho, what's the coldest game you've ever played in? ISO? Your Hawks teams or your son's team in a seven game series, who you rocking with?

[Joe Johnson]

It said, my Hawks team or your

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

son's team in a seven game series, who you rocking with?

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, really, man. What? Nobody gonna beat that? I'm gonna keep it real. With y' all in 2004, playing on that sons team with Nash, Amari, Sean, Quinn, Richardson, it was going to be hard to beat us, bro. It took obviously, you know, us not being healthy for us to lose. And that was just our. That was only one year that we all played together.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, we.

[Joe Johnson]

We was a nasty team, bro. We had a nasty squad. Nasty squad. It's going to be hard to beat us.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Hey, Ocho. Just found out my cousin Antoine was the running back with you at Santa Monica. You remember running?

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Wait, Antoine. Antoine.

[Joe Johnson]

Hey, man, I know his damn teammate now.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

I do, I do.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I remember.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

I remember. I remember Antoine. I remember a few. I remember a few of our players, man. Especially all our receivers.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

That man say running back anyway, you know. You don't remember? He don't remember.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Hey, I remember I running back Al Tricky Brown.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

That man said, if I see Antoine

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

face, I probably remember it.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I don't know how y' all did it, but. Yeah, like, I don't remember, like, real names. You gotta have a nickname. That's why when people ask me, man, such and such play with you, I said, did he have a nickname? Cause, you know, you got a nickname. I mean, yeah, everybody had nicknames,

[Joe Johnson]

man.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Ocho, ISO, after watching game one, would you agree that the difference between OKC and the Knicks is that cat is better than Chet? Yeah, yeah,

[Joe Johnson]

no question.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Got attacked tonight.

[Joe Johnson]

And they're a healthy team.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yes.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Lost my dad at 12, my grandma at 15. Depression kept me from finishing high school. Went from minimum wage in the Bronx to 250k. Celebrating feels empty when the people I wanted to make proud aren't there. How do you do it?

[Joe Johnson]

Well, I already know is.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

But Noah, my grandmother was around to experience the large. A large part of my career, especially my whole NFL career. And my first. My first 10 years. I mean, all my years at. I mean, well, seven years at. At. CBS, you know, but, you know, even though everybody's not. My grandfather, you know, you know, my grandfather, my grand. My. One of My grandmother, Grandma Charlie, she. She passed out in 93, so she saw some. But, you know, I still have my sister. My mom's here, a brother. I got kids now, so all is not lost. But I. I get what you're saying, because I wish my dad could have. Could have saw what me and my brother became. I wish my grandfather could have saw probably. If my grandfather was a liar, it probably wouldn't have happened because he had already told coach he wasn't gonna let us play because my uncles had gotten broken up. So I probably had to go to the military. And once I go spend four years in the military, try to come back and play because Barney wasn't having that. He wasn't.

[Joe Johnson]

So you gonna get some work out you, boy?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Absolutely. And I was done working. When I go, I'm going to the military ain't working. I wasn't working on that farm no more. That was it for me. Shout out to my daughter Faith for a sixth birthday. It's seven months for the. It's seven months for the best gift I could give my wife and five kids. My sobriety. Daddy loves y'. All. And we're going to have the blast at the zoo Saturday. Bless, fellas. One day at a time.

[Joe Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Felix, congratulations, bro. Congrats for your sobriety. Like you said, one day at a time, bro. One day at a time. Five kids. Because guess what? Your wife and your five kids need you around. And you can only be around, healthy, sober, in your right mind. So, man, we're proud of you here at Nightcap, man. Keep it going.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Joe, who you making? Clean up that confetti for you after the show.

[Joe Johnson]

My kids and my lady, they. They gonna take care for me, man. Okay. Hey, look, look, I'm wondering because normally when I come down here, you know, I'll be by myself. You know, I lock in about the. You know, it's about. About 8 minutes left in the game. I come down here and lock in all of A sudden I started hearing. I'm like, what the hell y' all doing down here? They standing and posting. I'm like, what they. What y' all got going on?

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

So it was.

[Joe Johnson]

It was a cool moment, though. I appreciate it.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, man.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

And you like. Hey, yo. Hey, Joe. You like my air horn, Joe?

[Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I like your air horn.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

That thing don't even blow. Congratulations. I. So you complete the big Three tremendously. Never seen such strong chemistry in any show. Thanks for making my mornings extra special.

[Joe Johnson]

Thank you.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

Yeah, bro. Joe is filled in nicely. He's. He's blended quite well and we're very, very excited to have him a part of the team full time now. And that.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

It's called DC Cab 1983. I know you've seen it with Mr.

[Joe Johnson]

T. Oh, I used to love Mr. T, bro.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

Yeah, it's the cat, the cab movie. It's always all about cabs.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

I ain't see it, Ocho.

[Chad Ochociko Johnson]

No, it's real good. You got to catch that. You got to catch. It's on Amazon Prime.

[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

That completes this episode of Nightcap as you watch the New York Knicks storm back, score the last 11 points as they win this ball game 105 to 95. Jalen Brussels scores 13 in the in the fourth quarter as they get over the hump. And they've won 12 consecutive games. 12 consecutive games, which I think this is the longest playoff game, the second longest streak in NBA history. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite uncle. And that is my partner and co host. That's Liberty City's own. That is Chad Ochociko Johnson. And the third member, not a permanent member, of the big three, seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks, that is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support and your continued support because you make this possible. Those looking to purchase a bottle of Shade by Laportier, head over to laportierconac.com to purchase you a bottle. If it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you, remember it is a premium VSOP cognac. The best tasting, smoothest VSOP cognac on the market. Try it compared against others and you'll see we have the best cognac on the market. Please drink responsibly and stay safe. Again, the New York Knicks are three wins away from winning their first title in over 50 years. Thanks to Jalen Brunson. 30 points, three rebounds, three assists. He had 13 in the fourth quarter as they overwhelmed the spurs score the last 11 points and they win 105 to 95. Game two is Friday, but we're back tomorrow on Thursday. Thank you guys for joining us. I'm Unk He's Ocho and the third permanent member of the Big Three, ISO, Joe Johnson. Thank you guys for joining.

[Joe Johnson]

Yes, sir. Peace out.

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[ISO (Ice Shuler Owens)]

All?

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