Nightcap Hour 3: DON’T WALK on My GRASS + Q & Ayyy

Summary

Club Shay Shay – Nightcap Hour 3: “DON’T WALK on My GRASS + Q & Ayyy”

Date: May 23, 2026
Guest Hosts: Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, Joe “ISO Joe” Johnson, and “Unc” (Shannon Sharpe)

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Overview

This episode of Nightcap brings together NFL legends and NBA stars for their signature high-energy, barbershop-style banter. Shannon Sharpe (“Unc”), Chad Ochocinco Johnson, and Joe “ISO Joe” Johnson answer fan questions, dig into live sports debates, share athlete anecdotes, and address trending topics from the the NBA and NFL worlds. The Q&A segment is loaded with candid takes, playful roasting, and wisdom from years at the top of professional sports.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Life as an Athlete: Energy, Sleep, & Routines

• Chad and Joe swap stories about sleep struggles after games and late-night adrenaline.
  • Joe describes his need to "come back down" after high-intensity games:

    “I work myself up so high... It take me a whole hour.” (03:36)

  • Unc adds:

    “I still be up to 4, 5 in the morning, man.” (04:03)

• Ocho’s daily schedule includes early wake-ups, parenting, and prepping for a celebrity basketball game in Knoxville.
  • “When I hit that bed, it’s good night, Irene.” (04:36)

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2. Fan Q&A – Voicemail & Discord Hot Takes

Steph Curry vs. Shaq Shooting Challenge (05:17)

• Scenario: Who wins—Shaq shooting free throws vs. Steph shooting half-court shots?
  • Ocho: “Steph’s still gonna win. He hittin’ from anywhere, boy.” (06:57)
  • Joe/Unc: Put money on Shaq with practice, think he could make 5/10 FTs; skeptical Steph could make 5/10 from half court.

NBA Trade Rumors – Lakers & Mitchell Robinson (08:13)

• Unc voices concern about Robinson’s free throw reliability and foul trouble.
• Ocho: “You let Reeves go, where you get your scoring from?” (09:01)

Kobe Bryant’s Place in History (09:48)

• Callers point out overlooked aspects of Kobe’s legacy (defense, assists, back-to-back titles without a top-75 teammate).
• Joe: “All we doing is regurgitating the same stats... It’s a moot point. You’re not going to win anybody.” (12:54)

Lamar Jackson’s 2024 MVP Snub & Route Running 101 (13:38)

• Lamar MVP Debate: Joe and Unc agree the All-Pro and MVP voting didn’t make sense.
  • “If Josh Allen is the league MVP... would you vote him first team All Pro?” (18:53)
• Difference between high- and low-level NFL receivers:
  • Ocho: “Low level receiver needs to be schemed open... High level, OC can just say—get me that money.” (20:00)

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3. Basketball Stories & Player Analysis

• Playing with John Wall: Joe shares a fun, trash-talking three-on-three story with Wall and Dwyane Wade’s son.
  “We ran through them boys. But John Wall… you gotta hear him. Funny as—I don’t know what.” (21:03)

• Ocho jokes about going full-court defense:
  “You know, I don’t play. I ain’t retreatin’. I’m picking up 94 ft.” (22:18)

• LeBron’s Fit in San Antonio vs. Minnesota:
  Unc: “Everybody can’t play with Braun, man, if we just keeping it 100.” (23:04)

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4. Deep Sports Debates

OKC Thunder's Historic Bench Performance (27:59)

• Thunder’s bench outscores starters with 76 points; panel credits OKC’s depth and composure.
  • “That bench... never happens.” (28:05)
  • Joe: “Every game, a different player steps up, takes over.” (34:32)

All-Time Great Benches (35:11)

• Comparing Celtics '86, Warriors, and Heat benches with today's OKC.
  • “When they had Iguodala... Finals MVP, came off the bench." (36:00)
  • “You gotta have some resemblance of a bench [to win a title].” (36:44)

Referees, Comebacks, and Team Depth (37:18)

• Discussion on refs’ influence vs. real factors in game outcomes:
  “I don’t think the refs were the issue tonight. I think it was the depth of the Thunder.” (37:29)

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5. Life Lessons & Lighthearted Bits

Confidence and Talking to Women (FAMU Freshman Advice) (50:33)

• Ocho: “You start in the mirror. Work on what you want to say... it’s all about confidence. If you ain’t got no confidence, scrap the whole plan.” (50:57)
• The group debates difference between being shy, speech issues, and self-esteem; finish with supportive, funny encouragement.

Spaghetti & Cooking Superstitions (54:41)

• Playful monologue on why Chad won’t eat spaghetti made by women:
  “I don’t even let women cook for me. That’s bad luck, boy.” (54:52)
• Unc: “Not a prerequisite. But if you can do it, I would graciously accept.” (55:37)

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6. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ochocinco on cigars:
  “I’ve been smokin’ cigars since 1991... at that point, I had an alibi. I had it out. Then I became a connoisseur!” (30:53)
• On all-star teammates:
  Joe: “I’ll probably say KG, Braun, D-Wade... I played with these guys in USA basketball. They pushed me, made me better.” (46:43)
• Unc on making it to the Pro Bowl/All-Star game:
  “That’s a hell of a feeling... It’s a hell of a confidence booster, too.” (48:52)
• Ochocinco on confidence for young men:
  “If you ain’t got no confidence, just scrap the whole plan.” (51:10)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Lifecycle of athletes, postgame adrenaline: 03:15–04:03
• Fan Q&As – Steph vs Shaq, Lakers trades, Kobe’s legacy, Lamar MVP: 05:17–13:32
• Difference in wide receiver route running: 19:50–21:03
• Joe’s John Wall story (3-on-3): 21:03–22:06
• OKC Thunder bench/depth discussion: 27:59–36:44
• Advice to a FAMU freshman on confidence: 50:33–51:33
• Spaghetti/cooking superstition bit: 54:41–55:32
• Shoutouts (Joshua’s graduation, Roderick’s birthday, cheer squad): 37:36, 49:33, 51:56

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Additional Highlights

• Shoutouts & Celebrations:
  • Fan birthdays, graduations, cheer squad wins.
  • Fans express appreciation for the show and compare it to JRE and Theo Von’s podcasts.
• Women’s Basketball Brief:
  • Caitlin Clark praised for handling media scrutiny and mental health discourse positively:

    “All the greats... had to deal with this. She’s handling herself well.” (53:03)

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Closing Remarks

The episode wraps with heartfelt thanks to fans, promotional reminders to vote for Nightcap’s podcast awards, and signature sign-offs from each host.
Unc and Ocho’s playful dynamic remains the beating heart of the show—blending authentic sports insight, mentorship, and laughter.

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

All right, it's time for our final segment Evening. It's time for Q and A.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, boy. Hey. I don't know if y' all noticed, boy. Hey, Joe. Last night, Joe. While we're fighting for my life, I don't know if you noticed it. Hey, the chat was on my head, boy, I forgot to take my nap yesterday, Joe.

[Unc]

Oh, boy.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I stayed, you know, I wake up at seven in the morning, take the baby to school, pick up when they get out at 2. I stayed up the whole time, watched the game and tried to get on the show. Oh, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Boy, what you think, Ocho? I had to fly yesterday. I flew yesterday.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

For real?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You ain't get no sleep none. How you had all that energy?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I just got to do what I got to do. And then it take me a while because I gotta. I have to come back down. Yeah, I get so I work myself up so high.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And then I got to come back down. It take me like a whole hour.

[Unc]

Yeah, you talking about when we get off here to go to sleep? Yeah, it take me a minute too. I can't go right to sleep when I get off.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's how I've always been like that. Like when I was in college, you know, after I played a game in the NFL. Man, it take me some hours. I just can't go right to sleep, bro.

[Unc]

You know how many nights we didn't got off here, man? I still be up to 4, 5 in the morning, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You sure do, cuz. I be, I be DMing him and he be responding.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, I don't know how I

[ISO Joe Johnson]

DM if he be. I like, hold on, I look, I look, I'm like, hold on.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

It's.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's 12, 23, 20 there. He hit me right back.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, I don't see how you do it. When we get, when we get off. It's when we get off here, we get off sometime. We get off at 3, sometime we get at 2:30 tonight we'll probably get off what, maybe 2:15. Yeah, when I hit that bed is good night, Irene. And I gotta. I gotta flight. My flight at seven o' clock in the morning. Anyway, I'm going. T. Higgins got a celeb game in Knoxville, Tennessee tomorrow at 3 o'.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Clock with a softball game.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Not basketball, basketball. I'm gonna go out there, you know. Hey, Joe. Probably 22, 15 and 10 real quick, man.

[Unc]

Here he go.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, it's gonna be, it's gonna be footage. See, ain't no, ain't no best this time, so I ain't gotta pass I ain't gotta pass the ball. I could just. I could just play.

[Unc]

Okay, where y' all playing at?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

At Knoxville High School? I think T. He must have went to Oak Ridge. Hive.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes, I was about right.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Tennessee.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Okay.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. So, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Before we get to our super chats, we've got four video voicemails from our discord. Let's take a listen to the first one. Cheetah pants and still King ISO. What's up with y', all, man? Isaiah coming in from Northern Cal. So look, Shaq versus Steph. Ten shots a piece. Shaq from the free throw line, Steph from the half court line, who makes more shots out of ten. And un. And Joe, y' all need to start listening to that man. Oo, he trying to tell y' all the truth, man. He's right about these basketball picks left and right. And he keep trying to tell y' all to eat y' all McDonald's, but y' all won't listen. And now y' all having knee surgeries and stuff. And look at oo. His knees are just fine. You know, he got a little glaucoma, but we got. We got good stuff out here in Cali that could fix that right up. Oo appreciate y', all, man. Hey, well, hey, I didn't have any problems either when I was Oo's age. It just once. Once I hit 50, the odometer needed to be reset back, but damn.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

But hey, what do you just ask? We've seen. We've seen Steph half court.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So he said, shaq from the free throw.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Free throw line, Steph's still gonna win. Steph's still gonna win.

[Unc]

You think so? I know he can. I know he makes some half court shots.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, he gonna need to make at least three. I think Shaq can make three out of ten.

[Unc]

I do, too.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You hold on. You talk about right now.

[Unc]

Yeah, right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So you get Shaq right now.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Right out of the studio, say okay. Okay, Shaq, come on, let's go.

[Unc]

I'm putting my money on Sha. I'm put my money on Sha.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, Steph. Steph, he hitting from anywhere, boy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I ain't.

[Unc]

Hey, I know what he capable of. Oo, but I'm put my money on Shaq. I think Shaq can pull this one out.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I think it's gonna be close, though, Joe. Now, if you let Shaq. If you give Shaq a week to practice. Yeah, I would say Shaq, go get it, cuz. Shaq can hit about Six of. I give Shaq five, six of them. I don't think Steph can hit. I don't think Steph can hit five or six from half court.

[Unc]

I don't either. That's what I'm saying. I think Shaq can at least give you five. I think he can go 50%.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Man, y' all seen Steph warm up, man, shoot from half court, shoot from the stands.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But he got oo. He gotta make. He gotta make at least. He gonna have to make at least four.

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah, look, look. Three for ten is great. From half court.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Hell yeah. Two from ten. Yeah, the hell you shoot for 50ft.

[Unc]

I don't see. I don't see Shag. Like, I got Shaq making 5 out of 10 free throw.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Now, if you say give Shaq. If you say, okay, Steph, shoot from the corner. 3.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, that's too easy.

[Unc]

Come on.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's too easy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Come on.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's too easy.

[Unc]

That man probably gonna go do that blindfold.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He probably might not miss one.

[Unc]

There you go. And be at least nine for 10.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Here's the second one. Let's take a listen, family. What's up, Ojo? And still King ISO. What it do? Forest City, Arkansas native here. Hey, listen, what y' all think about this? I think the Lakers should trade for Mitchell Robinson. I think he'll be a perfect center for Luca and LeBron. And I think we should sign and trade Austin Reeds for some more better wing three and D. Guys. What y' all think?

[Unc]

Man, I like Mitchell Robinson, but that damn free throw.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That.

[Unc]

That free throw game that teams play, it's gonna. It's gonna be hard for him to gain a rhythm. They gonna always keep him out the game, bro, if you. If you don't work on them free throws and get that down, he gonna always. And he foul prone, too.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yep. That's why he can't play late in the games.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hold on. He just said 2, 3, and D guys. And you. You, you, you, You. You let Reeves go. Where you get your scoring from?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Luke and LeBron.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

LeBron gonna be gone.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, he's saying sign. He was saying trade. Luca, keep. Basically keep LeBron sign Mitchell Robinson. So now you got three and D guys.

[Unc]

You mean Trey Austin.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. Austin Reese. Yeah. Yes.

[Unc]

Damn

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Lego gonna have some decisions to make. Here's the third one.

[Unc]

Yes, sir.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Did three first? I want to show y' all something. Nice little collection, that boy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You can let me know if I'm

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

completely wrong about this, but we hear conversations with Kobe about Top five, top ten, top three, whatever it is.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The analysts never bring up how he's second in all time defense, third most assists for shooting guards.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

One of only three players to win

[ISO Joe Johnson]

back to back without a top 75.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And he was the first player with 30000 points and 6, 000 assists.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I mean, those never get brought up. When we talk about Kobe, I appreciate.

[Unc]

Well, look, they talk about Kobe didn't have a top 75, but that damn pal Gasol and Lamar Odom, them, hey, them boys was hell, you know, on when they went, they went, they went to back to back finals. So I, I mean, I ain't. Kobe wasn't never out there by himself, man. He all. He has some help.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's just, you know what it is. It's like with Tom Brady and they don't want to give his receivers credit. They don't want to give Edelman, they don't want to give Amendola, they don't want to give Dion Branch. And they just talk about where Randy Moss and Gronk. Yeah, you have to understand, every top receiver was not going to be able to play in that system. Everybody can't go have what top Ocho. You let Ocho explain it. A top receiver one week catch one pass and then he might catch one pass one week, three pass the next week and then he go 10, go crazy.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

y' all don't understand. Y' all don't understand the mindset of a number one receiver.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Especially when a team. Joe, when the team say, today you ain't catching nothing. And they mean that and they do just that. No matter where you go, you ain't getting nothing. You got some weeks teams, we're gonna just play you, we're gonna play you upright, we're gonna play you, we're gonna.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Look, I mean, it's getting to the point I'm looking at, I'm looking at rating these players. I'm, you know, the previous players. I'm gonna look at it like I do right now. Where we are, talk to me in 28. Ain't nothing we can do about it right now, right? Kobe's where he is, LeBron's where he is. Jordan is where he is. I'm gonna deal with Jokic, Wimby guys that are playing now, it don't do no good because wherever you are, you are. It's just like wherever you are politically, you ain't winning nobody over. You're not bringing nobody to your side. Guys, no matter what, you see what is happening and ain't nobody left that side. You see what is happening and nobody's left this side. So what we do, you're not going to win anybody. If you a Jordan fan, you not leaving to go to LeBron, Kobe, Kareem, Shaq, Steph or anybody. If you're a LeBron fan, you're not leaving LeBron to go to Jordan, Shaq, Kobe, no Kareem, nobody. What we doing? It's a moot point. It really is.

[Unc]

Now

[ISO Joe Johnson]

all we doing is regurgitating the same stats. Yep, LeBron did this, Kobe did that, Jordan did this, Jordan didn't win to Kobe. LeBron had to go to D. Wade, Kobe had Shaq, Danny had Powell, but Powell wasn't that good. Yep, that's where we are. That's really where we are. Guys, here's the fourth one. Let's take a listen. Ocho ISO, what's going on? Hey man, I'm putting on for the South. Outkast said south got something saying.

[Unc]

Y' all saying it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, quick question, no PC stuff, but can you explain why Lamar didn't win the 2024 MVP? I think that would go down as the craziest upset in sports, honestly. But can you please give your take on that? Ocho, can you please explain the difference between a a low level receiver and a high level receiver when it comes to route running? What's the art of it? ISO man, hey still dog. Much love, but I know you didn't play with John Wall, but I know

[Unc]

you played against him.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Do you have any takes or opinions about him? He's my favorite player. I just want to know from your insight because he was on the court with him. Appreciate it and thank you.

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[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

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[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't know. Ocho and I, we've talked about this ad nauseam. A man throws for 41 touchdowns with four interceptions. The QBR leading QBR. I think he might have had one fewer win, maybe one or two fewer wins than, than Josh Allen. He was the, he was voted first team all pro. The same people that voted him first team all pro voted Josh Allen the league mvp. Well, if Josh Allen is the league MVP at the quarterback position, wouldn't you vote him first team all pro at the quarterback position? Ochojo?

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. I didn't, I didn't understand it.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I didn't, I didn't understand it either. And that's what I thought was. Because when, when it came out that Lamar was the, the, the first team all pro quarterback, I said, well,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

didn't make any sense.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And it still doesn't. Yeah, but Josh got the award. Now Lamar does have two of those awards. Most people believe he should have three. He got what he got. I think the next award that he really wants is that super bowl trophy, that super bowl mvp. And then he can tell him like, kiss my butt, Ocho.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Route runners. Oh.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What's the difference between a high level wide receiver and a low level. Yes, I, I think for me, honestly, low level wide receiver is one that needs a scheme to be able to get. It has to be schemed open. One where an officer could. Officer, coordinator and job. I think it's a little bit more difficult in trying to find ways to get him open. You know, having to condense his splits, put him in motion, put him in bunch, you know, to, to kind of hide him away from some of the things that he's not, not strong at. I think high level route runners or high level receivers. They don't really need much help. You know, when. When you got to have it, you can line them up on the left, you can run the line up on the right and say, I need you to get open. Make my job easy for once. Make my job easy for one. Devonte Adams, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, jsn. Those are players, obviously play within a scheme. But also Officer Cornet can sit back and relax and say, you know what? On this play, I'm a line you up right here. I need you to go get me that money. Yeah, I need you to get. And they can get it. Every receiver cannot do that. I guarantee you they can't.

[Unc]

Hey, for me, I played. Obviously I played against John Wall, but if you get a chance, you got to go to YouTube, look up the three on three. There it was me, John Wall, and we had D. Wade's son on our team. We played against Jalen Brown, Ben Simmons, and they had some other guy. We played three on three. Chris Johnson hosted a. It wasn't that he hosted. He had a three. We played three on three one day because he trained all us when we was out. I was out in la, and this one particular day we all came in, he was like, we're gonna play three on three. And me and John Wall was on team. We ran through them boys. But John Wall, bro, his ad living throughout that whole three on three game. You got. You got to hear him. You got to hear him talk. He funny as. I don't know what a hell of a competitor. Great dude. I enjoyed. I enjoyed that time that we had. But, yeah, he. I mean, he a great player.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joe. You know John. John playing tomorrow. You know, I'm gonna be a guardian, man.

[Unc]

He playing. John, he playing in that game with you?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. John Wall. Hold on. It's a few more. As a few. It's three, I think three other NBA players. Hold on.

[Unc]

Okay.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, Jon finna get this work though, right?

[Unc]

Okay.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, he's gonna get his work.

[Unc]

I'm be looking for some footage now.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, oh, you gonna see it. You're gonna see it because I'm gonna be. Hey, I'm gonna be in his shirt.

[Unc]

Okay.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You know, I don't play. You know how most of the time you play basketball, everybody continues to retreat. They retreat, Retreat.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I ain't retreating.

[Unc]

You picking up, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I'm picking up 94ft.

[Unc]

What, like OKC, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Sitting in the chair.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Sliding them puppies. Okay, now you get around me if you want to.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'll say it again. Wimby the alien. But OKC is the mib.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Bron should go to the Spurs. It would be a perfect fit. He would bring championship experience that they need. He could also go to the Wolves.

[Unc]

Nah, I. I mean, I'd rather him go to the Wolves than the damn Spurs. Come on, man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What? Oh, what up, Joe?

[Unc]

No, they got. They are. They got a nice young nucleus. You know, everybody can't play with Braun, man, if we just keeping it 100.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Everybody shooters.

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

If you'll let him handle the ball. Shooters.

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Cause look, you.

[Unc]

You bring Braun over there with Castle and I, that ain't gonna work, bro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Nope.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, hey, Joe. Who was number nine for the Pelicans?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't know. I think it's Trey Murphy or.

[Unc]

Or.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Who's the other one?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, I can't. The point guard from the Clippers, DeAndre Jordan. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You say nine for the Pelicans?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. Light skinned dude.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, no, no.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And then. Damn, my homeboy, man, I can't. His name slipping my mind. I'm looking. Baron Davis. Baron Davis playing too.

[Unc]

What number is Jordan Poole? He number three.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Huh. Now that we got. Now. Now we get to hear Perk takes like Wimby career over after one game. Oh, Dejante Murray is Dejounte Murray number nine?

[Unc]

No, I think he number five.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

DeAndre Jordan. Yeah, he like seven foot tall, Ocho. So.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, I'm looking at. That's not. That's not DeAndre Jordan.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, he don't play with the Pelican Villa.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Now I'm looking at his shirt to say New Orleans, and it say number nine.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It might have been a long time ago.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, damn. I bet then they couldn't update the picture.

[Unc]

Oh, man, there you go.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I love the show. Oo, where's that energy at? You've been quiet the last two games now, Timmy. Hemy, Wimby, OKC and five.

[Unc]

Yeah, we. Hey, hey. But we ain't gonna be petty Betty over here. We a. We ain't gonna chastise you. By that we, I mean you.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You don't need a chest to me. Because I did say I. Listen, we lost the game. We lost two games. But I said the series was going seven. I said it was gonna be a 12 round boxing fight. But we were gonna come out. We're gonna come out on top.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay, y'. All.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, listen, y' all won round two and three. It's okay.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, you better win round four. Cause it won't get Past five. All right. I saw a bad look after game one. They brought that bad juju praising the spurs and Wimby. Y' all go back to celebrating the Zesties team in the league. How we bad look? He said we put that.

[Unc]

We put that, that, that juju on him. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

D.S. t.S. Car wash detail Service. Aaliyah made a song Made a cheating song TLC made a cheating song Escape made a cheating song Name a cheating song sung by a man I'll wait

[Unc]

Tank that I deserve before you go out and find some other guy hey. For you to stay down with him all night yeah. For you to do all things Y'

[ISO Joe Johnson]

all can't get no song by Joe. Now, y' all know Joe?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[Unc]

They call me the Human Jukebox Man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I know.

[Unc]

Okay.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe.

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[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

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[Unc]

Come on now. The Human Jukebox, Ocho.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, I like that. Okay, Joe. Okay.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, that's why we'd be getting all them graphics. They number. Hey, double R B s okay here because the joke.

[Unc]

Hey, hey, hey, listen. Y' all know the ladies love R B now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We RB that thing out now.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I mean. I mean, monkey say Usher Confessions had a little something to do with cheating, didn't it?

[Unc]

Hello.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's right.

[Unc]

Whole damn album. Damn there, right?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Sure did.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

If I wanted to be honest, it looked crazy. Three games one. But from being 03. Yeah. I mean, look, it took a Herculean effort by Wimby that first game.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Or you're right. They're down 03. But give them credit. We'll see what they bounce back, Joe. Believe they can bounce back on Sunday. They ain't got no choice, Ocho.

[Unc]

Believe that.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They gotta have game four.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Or it won't get. It won't get to game six for sure.

[Unc]

No, sir.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

We got. We got this. Okay. We got this.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay. As a long Thunder fan, what excuse y' all casual is gonna get say now? Just give credit where it's due. Ain't no. Ain't no. Ain't nothing. Ain't nothing to do.

[Unc]

It ain't, bro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

The Thunder. Thunder was better team. Especially the last two games. They were the better team.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That bench. You get 76 points from your bench. Your outscore, your starters.

[Unc]

That red. That never happens.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, never. No, we got to give him credit.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, you know what?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Go ahead. Go ahead, Ocho. What'd you say?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, the song about men. Men making songs about cheating. Mario Winans. I don't want to know Yeah.

[Unc]

I don't want to know if you playing me. Keep it on the low. Yeah. Cause my heart, my heart.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Take it, take it. You can't take it. John.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey. Okay, y' all know what?

[Unc]

Yeah. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Just finished the pod with you in dc. Great episode. Just wanted to say you're on Rogan and Theo's heel. My top three. Nightcap. Jre. Theo. No Cap Love. Appreciate that, man.

[Unc]

Yes, sir.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I had a great time with dc. He's a great guy, man. DC is unbelievable. Just to sit down and have a conversation with man. He's. He loves sports.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Obviously, you know, he's one of the foremost authorities and being able to. Because he can talk. He can talk. A lot of guys can. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? You know, a lot of guys might have played a particular sport, but they can't. They can't talk it. Yeah, he can talk it. Like, a lot of people can train, but they can't train you.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

A lot of people can, but they can't coach you. I played the game. I ain't got. I ain't got the patience. But a lot of people can't translate what they did and. And impart that wisdom on you. Yeah, he can talk it. He did it. He's a coach. Ocho, I need your top five. Your top six, medium, full cigars. ISO. Need a permanent employee. Need permanent employment for Nightcap and unk is Kobe over Braun. One, two, three, five. One team. No jumping ship.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Let me see my top five cigars right now. For one, I'm going go with my own 85 cigars, obviously. My second is my favorite. My favorite go to Jaime Garcia.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Right. 60 gauge. My third would probably be the Andalusian Bull. LFD. I think it was cigar of the year, maybe 2015, if I'm not mistaken. My fourth would probably be the lunatic, obviously. Another. Another. I love big. I love big ring gauges. So it's probably maybe a 70. Maybe a 70 gauge. And my fifth would probably be a Liga Pravita 9. Number nine. You know, small. Small little nub. Yeah, that's. That's probably my five right there.

[Unc]

I got a question. Them cigars, they give you a little buzz, don't they?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

For me. No, no, no.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Joe.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I think. And I think because I've been smoking so long. Joe, you got to understand. I've been smoking cigars since 1991. I started as a freshman in high school, and I've been doing it so long.

[Unc]

Damn.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I've Been doing it so long.

[Unc]

A freshman in high school.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, Joe. Yeah, yeah. At that point, I knew nothing about cigars. I was more so doing it because I wanted to fit in with the crowd that was drinking alcohol and smoking weed. But I understood I couldn't walk in grandma house smelling like no goddamn meat. I couldn't do that. But my grandfather smoked pipes and he smoked cigars. So the smell of me smelling like cigar, I could say, well, I was in the Domino house with my grandfather and that's why I smell the way I do. Yeah, I had, I had an alibi. I had it out. And at that point, I had done it so long and trying to fit in with the crowd. Then I, I became accustomed to and became a connoisseur and enjoying cigars. Now, dude, Joe, I could talk cigars for hours. Joe, man.

[Unc]

Hey, I remember my grandpa used to smoke a pipe and it used to smell sweet.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah. It depended, you know, they got so

[ISO Joe Johnson]

many different, what type of back. What type of tobacco that tobacco you get. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My grandfather smoked pipes too. He smoked cigars and pipes.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know, but the mole people back in the day, they used to roll their own cigarettes. They weren't spending no money. They had Prince Albert, those Bugle boy, you know what I'm saying? You know, hey, they were spending no money.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Now.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Them Camel. Yeah, you know, the camera, they had no filter.

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Lungs fire.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, now I think about it too. Hey, yeah, like. And Joe, you know how you say when you smoke cigars, you know, they say, you know, your lungs messed up. Are you supposed to get tired? Joe, I smoked so crazy. I did it through my whole, my whole career before the games, after, after practice. But I was in phenomenal shape. I never got tired. So I'm still smoking. I'm 58 years old. I play Sunday League every Sunday. 90 minutes, Joe. 45 minute halves, running up and down the field, the big field like a football field. Yeah, I only get, I don't get tired.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Well, that's my damn whole career, huh? I mean, I know guys smok guys. You smoke cigarette cigarettes. Like I say, guys smoke cigarettes and be at the front of the pack, running wind spreads, be first. And I went, and I went to the truck and had two shots of Hennessy.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know, the old school guys were different, man. They're different.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. You know what I think saved me too long. Since I've been retired, my black ass ain't stopped moving around. I can't sit still, Joe. I cannot sit still. I gotta be doing something active. I got to.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And but plus Ocho, it's not like cigars. You don't inhale the cigar.

[Unc]

Right,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

right, right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Cut them cigars. They woo. They strong.

[Unc]

Well put you down.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Game three showed OKC's composure and killers spurs got punched in the mouth at home and never recovered despite a promising start. You're right. That was it. I mean, you know, one team held their composure, they weathered the storm. You know they're going to come out with a flurry. A and that's what you tell them. Anytime we go on the road, you know they're going to come out with a flurry. Let's withstand the flurry, play our way to the game, play our way into the game. And you look up after all they did in the first quarter, start of the second quarter, you only up three points.

[Unc]

Yeah. Hey, hey. What. What it comes down to what we talking about in the Knicks and Cav series. Hey, we just got to get a couple stops, guys. We gotta string a couple stops, get back in this damn game. Cut it to about 8 to 10 points. We're gonna be all right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay. See, depth is crazy. Every game it's a different player steps up, takes over. Spurs gotta stop letting women get stuck on Caruso.

[Unc]

What they gonna do? Hell, they, they, they, they sub Hardenstein and bring in Caruso. What he.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Who he gonna. Cuz you don't. Because the thing is you. You don't really want him to have to guard chat because all Chad's going to do is stay at the three point line. Yeah, but it seems like when he tries to help off, they swing the ball to Caruso and he's out of position. And Caruso shooting. Shoot around threes.

[Unc]

Yeah, and.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And making him every damn time.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He making them every time.

[Unc]

Cash. Cash.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh. The point OO was trying to make was there's never been a bench like okcs SGA is at least needed mvp. But we've never seen an obvious. The Celtics bench at 86. They had a former MVP coming off the bench. He was also sixth man of the year, Bill Walton.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Damn. Bill came out the bench.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He sure did.

[Unc]

They had some bigs back then though. Ocho.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Rick Carlisle was on that bench. I'm trying to think. The Sixers used to have a good bench with Bobby Jones and Earl Curtin. I mean, it's. It's really hard to say if you keep it in today's time. Yeah, I mean, the Warriors. We talked about the warriors bench.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

When they had Iguodala you do realize Iguodala was finals MVP and he came off the bench. Yeah, he got inserted into the starting lineup, if I'm not mistaken. And what was that game for, Joe?

[Unc]

Yeah, I think it was by game four because he was the one doing the best. Listen, they saying he was doing the best job on LeBron, but LeBron numbers were still crazy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

36, 13 and 9.

[Unc]

Yeah, it was still crazy.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I hate to see if he didn't guard him. So you think about it. When they had. When they had Leandro Barbosa and they had Livingston.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And they had Iggy coming off the bench. I think, I think Festus is even.

[Unc]

Yep, yep, yep, yep. They had a nice squad coming off that bench.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. But most teams that win the title, the bench, you gotta have some resemblance of a bench. You just do. You do. I mean, when the Heat, when the Heat was winning, you know, they was bringing Mike Miller, they was bringing Baddie A. They have depth on the bench.

[Unc]

Yeah, I think Ray Allen came off. Did Ray Allen.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes, he did.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But you o. Joe. Joe. If it didn't happen yesterday, it didn't happen in. In the social media eyes.

[Unc]

Yeah, right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Spurs can win every game. Can win every game. Unless the refs have something to. To say about. I mean, say about it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, that was a good one.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't think the refs. I don't think the rest were the issues tonight. I think it was the depth of the Thunder was the issue tonight.

[Unc]

Yep.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

But I get what you said. Zo ISO. Can y' all shout out my baby boy Joshua on his graduation today? Proud doesn't even to begin express how I feel.

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

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[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

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[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

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[Unc]

y'.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All. Joshua, you graduated. Congratulations, bro.

[Unc]

Congrats.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's an unbelievable honor. That's unbelievable. Feet first step.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hello.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Keep making pops proud. I hate saying this, but Wendy, look. Gas tonight. Oh, yeah. Because you got to realize he. They're making him cover space. Joe.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Think about it. He's.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

He's.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He's trying to protect the paint, then they kick it, and then he's trying to get to the corners. You're asking an awful lot, and I understand he's 12ft tall, but you're still asking him to do an awful lot to cover them corners from the paint.

[Unc]

And they keeping a body on his ass, too.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They wear him down.

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Find him and put a body on him.

[Unc]

Yep.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I still think UNCs the top three amongst tight ends. Thank you for all the hard work you boys put in. No, thank you for watching us. You make our job easy.

[Unc]

Yes, sir.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All we do is get to come on here and talk about, you know, things that have happened, talk about a particular sport, try to give you scenarios that maybe something that happened in Joe. When Joe was playing, he can. He can, like, insert. Well, I remember this happened in X, Y, and Z. This is how we handle it. Ocho and I, we try to do that also when it comes to football and try to equate it to other sports, but you guys make it fun. You guys make it worthwhile. Reggie Bush at USC or Adrian Peterson at Oklahoma.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, wow. God damn, that's a good one.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

AD at his freshman year. But, man, Reggie, them last two years at USC for reggae.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Unbelievable.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That dude was electric. Hey, was it. You think.

[Unc]

You think it was? Cause, you know, he catch. He.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He. He.

[Unc]

He caught out the backfield as well as ran. AP was more just like just throwing

[ISO Joe Johnson]

the ball to him. Yeah. AP was a bail cow. Back ap was probably he. What you do? I'm gonna turn, I'm gonna hand it to you or I'm gonna toss it to you.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

One or the other.

[Unc]

He gonna do the rest.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, Joe to it.

[Unc]

I already know it. I ain't never seen nobody come back from an ACL and kick ass like that.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey.

[Unc]

What?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Well, he was crazy. He would punish you too, Joe.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh yeah. You run your ass over. I was dying when the crowd was yelling Flopper. Flopper. SGA Sounded like a crowd at the European games.

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They don't let you bring those vuvuzelas back in the game. No more duty Ocho.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, that's.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

That's. They. I forgot. Was it 2014 World Cup? They banned those. Wait, what? When was the World cup in Africa. I forgot what year that was.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know, I got one. What is that? I got one of them horns that you blow into.

[Unc]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You say when you watch it when you watch from home. Hey, chat. What, what year was that World cup with the Boozuelas? Yeah, they. They ban those. Sound like a bunch of bees when you watch from home.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I got a boo boozel and I got a didgeridoo Australian. One of those long wooden things that you blow into.

[Unc]

Yeah, yeah. They're not letting you bring none of that to no game now.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, sir.

[Unc]

Hell no.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Prime. Ocho versus Prime. Prime. Who would be epic? What made The Giants in 1988 feel weird? ISO. Who's your top five All Star teammates? Same question for Uncle Nocho. Love the show. Well, OO and Prime, they, they hadn't settled that yet. Pr OO say he gonna get him. Prime say he got his foot too far back. So prime said, nah, that ain't gonna happen.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh man.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What made the game versus giant 98? That was the first time that we had lost. We had started the season 13 and 0 after we had came off the season. The year before winning the super bowl. We played the game. The game started at like one o' clock on a Saturday or a mid afternoon game on a Saturday. I know, it just. It just didn't. And the gym and the Giants were bad that year. I think they only won five games that year. We wanted the five. It was just. It was just bad. It was just bad all around. And we had. And a matter of fact we were down the whole game against Kansas City. We ended up having to come back from two touchdowns down against Kansas City. I ended up catching like a game winning touchdown with like, with like a:30. Left in the game and we ended up beating Kansas City. It was just.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

It just.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It's just weird. Yeah, just a weird ass game.

[Unc]

My all star teammates, I'll probably say KG Braun D. Wade. I played with Melody and I'm. I'm speaking, you know, Brian D. Wade. Mellow because I played with these guys in USA in 2000-2006-2005-2006. So I spent a lot of time with those guys and you know, we played in several. If I made seven here, y' all know they was in all seven of them. Yeah, yeah. So we, we had a. We had a good time. So what's that? Three, four guys? Who else? Probably. I'm probably missing somebody, but I'll probably throw. I throw Paul Pierce in there. Considering the fact that, you know, I was somewhat his rookie and to be able to be an all star with him, you know, at that time, I thought that was pretty special for me. So yeah, those guys were. They pushed me, man. They made me better.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

What you want? What you want? Quarterbacks? Because I played with my team one year, I had Tom Brady, my teammate. Peyton Manning was my teammate. Elway was my teammate. Marino was my teammate. Bruce Smith was my teammate. Thurman Thomas, Derek Thomas, Rod Woodson, Ed Reed, not Ed Ray Lewis, Jonathan Ogden, Bruce Matthews, Will Shields, Damani Dawson Jr. Say our Cortez Kennedy. Man, I had some hell of an all star teammates, man. See oo you went every year. But Peyton and what you call him was there Tommy Peyton and Tom. Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Shoot, Ray, shoot Ed. Troy Palomalo.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

TJ went with me.

[Unc]

Hey, hey. And that's. That's like a. That's a hell of a feeling, bro, to be amongst the greats, the best to play the sport at that time. And you're a part of that. Like that's a hell of a feeling, bro. It's a hell of a confidence booster too.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Let you know you belong, man. What's up Unan? Oo ISO went crazy, but damn, I got pillow softer than ch.

[Unc]

Yeah, he gotta step it up, bro.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He.

[Unc]

He gota.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He.

[Unc]

He gotta be a little more demonstrative as far as, you know, asserting himself in these games. Cuz too, it's like he just kind of floating. For real.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yes.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Ocho ISO, I'm a new fan due to my best friend Roderick. He's a super loyal Nightcap fan. Can y' all give him a 30th birthday shout out and please, I want to surprise him on the rat on that road. Thank you for all the laughs, lessons, and drinks. Absolutely. Absolutely. So, Roderick, happy 30th birthday, man. Your best friend, man. He wanted you to. You want to. Want to thank you for introducing him tonight, Introducing him to nightcap. And we want to thank you for introducing him to nightcap. So on your 30th birthday from us. Oh, Joe. And happy 30th birthday. The big three zero. No more 20s for you, bro.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Man, it's a rap.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

It goes now.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

You know what they say in them 30s. It's time to get dirty.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I heard Ocho want to lose some money in ceelo ISO. I'm gonna grab that for you.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, come on. Come on. Come on, playboy. You know where I'm at, huh? Make it light on yourself, baby.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Huh? Unc, I'm going into my freshman year at famu. I've had stigmatism since I was a kid. Sometimes it's hard for me to talk to girls. What can I do to fix this?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

And you supposed to talk to me? You supposed to ask me that? What you mean, you going to famu? You know what you got to do?

[Unc]

What do you got to do, huh? What do you got to do?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Look in the mirror. That's where you start at. You start in the mirror, work on what you want to say in the mirror. First, build up the. Build up the. The. The confidence. Because it's all about confidence. If you ain't got no confidence, just scrap the whole plan.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I. I don't think I. I. Astigmatism is with I.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

What now?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He might have a list for. He might have a speech. Might have a stuttering or a speech impediment. But.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

but. Okay, just for the sake of art, let's just say he. I'm thinking he wants to say it's hard for him to talk to girls, so therefore, I'm assuming that he has something to do with speech.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, it's hard to talk to girls because maybe he's shy. Maybe he doesn't have the confidence to do so. A speech doesn't stop you from talking to anybody.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Stigmatism is. I think astigmatism is like one of your eyes is like.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

It's messed up.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah,

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I mean, hey, well, I gotta stick my eye messed up.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

No, you already just murky. You got glaucoma. Black is one. Walk on my grass. That's your ass. Guys, can we. Can you congratulate my daughter Zoe on becoming cheerleader? She made the team on the first try. Thank you, guys. Zoe, congratulations. Congrats, the cheerleading squad. That is a very, very big accomplishment. And we at Nightcap are very, very proud of you. Congratulations, cheerleader.

[Unc]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Can you give Clark flowers tonight on an outstanding W against gsv. Finally addressing the media clickbait podcast on her mental health, coming back from a year long injury, saying, give me grace. Look, she. This is what she gonna have to deal with. And I think she's mentioned. I think she's like, lebron has reached out and they've had a conversation. I don't know if they were gonna have a conversation or they've had a conversation or how to deal with it. But look, this what comes with it. Since she burst onto the scene her. Well, her junior and senior year at Iowa, this is what it's going to be.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

All the great, you know, and all the greats. Maybe not to the level of what she's having to deal with it.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Right.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Because now we have more social media and so forth and so on, but I think she's handling herself well. Look, everybody ain't gonna be happy with what you do. I mean, I saw what she walked out with Morgan whing and, you know, he had some, Some things to say and, you know, it's just.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I don't know, man. Caitlyn, just keep doing what you do. Keep balling. That's what you, you, you, you the ball. Yeah. Your job. Your job is to make your teammates better, put the ball in the basket at a high clip and get the, the, the fever to the playoffs and go far.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

That's all you control whether people like or dislike you. You cannot control that. Control the variables with which you can control. And that's how hard you play and how good you. How much effort you put into the game. That's all you can control. Whether people like you or not. That shouldn't be any concern of yours. Oh, give me, give my shout out to my mom Tracy and sis Cameron. All right, Tracy, Cameron, here's the shout out. Nightcap. What y' all do? What y' all do? Can y' all cook? Cause if y' all can cook, crew will come down there and get a nice meal. Fried catfish.

[Unc]

Spaghetti. Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

So y' all know about the most fried catfish, the most spaghetti places? Y' all don't know about that?

[Unc]

Who though?

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Y' all don't know about that?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Man, I know about.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

They don't know about that.

[Unc]

I know about spaghetti, man, please.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I know about spaghetti. Huh? Little meatballs in there, too? Yes, sir.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

And you probably be eating. You'd be going to women's house eating spaghetti, don't you?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I don't go to women's houses. That's bad luck, boy.

[Unc]

Hell, no.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You let him cook spaghetti for you. You eat it. Huh? You're not supposed to eat spaghetti that women cook.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

I don't even let women cook for me. Huh.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

You know what they say. Hey, I know what they say. I know what I don't eat.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey, that's a. No, no, Nobody.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Spaghetti. You want some spaghetti? I make some great spaghetti and lasagna.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

No, you don't know.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Not for me, you won't.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, no. Hey, that's never been a prerequisite of mine, Joe. Or having a woman that know how to cook. Yeah, yeah. Don't come to me. Talk about what you can cook and what you could do. I don't care nothing about that. That is. That is not for me.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Oh, cooking, Lord.

[Unc]

You don't want. No, you don't. You don't like no woman to be able to cook.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

I'm like, ojo. It's not a prerequisite, but if you can do it, I would graciously accept.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Yeah, it's cool. It's cool. I ain't. But I ain't necessary. Don't come in here at my dishes.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah, I'll be. I'll be trying. I got paper. Everything I eat off paper.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Paper coat, paper plate, paper. Paper cup.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Oh, yeah. I got like, you know, I get. I get my paper plates from. From Publix. I use Dixie.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Yeah. Hey, the only thing. Hey, I have a. I have a. I have a thing full of spoon knives and spoons and forks.

[Unc]

Yeah.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Ain't no dishes in. Love the show. And just want to see if I get. Because my cousin Willie the third, my cousin Willie III and my aunt Dion, both turning 39. Also a special shout out to my dad, Eddie. Also Willie iii. Dion. Happy birthday. Happy, happy birthday. Cousin Adam and your uncle on the same day.

[Unc]

Damn, 39.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Okay, that'll work. And a special shout out to my dad, Eddie. Dad, what you got going on?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hey,

[ISO Joe Johnson]

Eddie. That completes this episode of Nightcap. The Thunder go on this go to in game three. Go on the road snatch back home court. Thanks to a 123, 108 victory over the San Antonio spurs, they get 76 points. That's right. The OKC Thunder got 76 bench points. Their bench outscored their starters. Jalen Williams had a career high 18 points. Jared McCain had a career high 24 points. And Shay Gill just got it going in the second half and he was sensational. And they win going away 123 to 108. We'll see if the spurs could bounce back. They're going to really need this game for. And they're going to have to play four great quarters of basketball because the one thing about the set, about the, the Thunder, they won't go away. They'll keep coming. They'll keep coming. They'll keep coming. And you got to play your best basketball for 48 minutes and sometimes it might take 58 minutes as it did in game one to get this victory. Thank you guys for joining us. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite unc. And there's the guy that's wearing the king hat. That's him. The Liberty City legend.

[Unc]

The bingo ring of fame fake ass king.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Hello.

[Unc]

Come on, man.

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

Damn.

[ISO Joe Johnson]

He's a former all pro and a Pro bowl player. That is Chad Ojo Seco Johnson and the smooth shooting, shooting guard, seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks, University of Arkansas alum that is ISO Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit the subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys. Thank you for your support and you continue support those looking to purchase a bottle of Shea by Laportier. Head over to leportierconac.com and purchase you a bottle if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. The best tasting premium VSOP cognac on the market and it drinks like an xo. Please drink responsibly instead. Stay safe. We've been nominated for the hashtag Sports Award the 2026 in four categories. Best Brand partnership for Nightcap Outside in row. Best podcast, Best athlete podcast, Best use of live video. That link is pinned in the chat. So please go vote for Nightcap. You can get to vote as many times as you like. I think the voting end next Friday, right? Okay, we'll get back to you. We'll let you know when to vote it. But keep voting until we tell you to stop. Thank you guys for another for joining us for Nightcap. Y' all know who I am. I'm up. That is oo. That's ISO. We'll see you tomorrow after game three. Calves versus the Knicks. Sam,

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[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

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[Unc]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

What do you mean?

[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

People hate the sound of chewing.

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

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[Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson]

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[Unc]

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[ISO Joe Johnson]

M&M's popped caramel. It's more fun together.

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