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Chad Ochocinco
and ways to save Flora Mayweather Jr. Claimed Saturday that the potential rematch with Manny Pacquiao would only be an exhibition. Jasmine Tour CEOs manager, CEO of Manny Pacquiao Promotion and the event producer fired back strongly opposing saying Floyd is in breach of the contract. Floyd signed not one, not two, but three different agreements on three different dates. Two different parties that ultimately got intertwined in a month of January. And this is all related to his return to professional boxing. First one October 24, the second one November 6, the third one December 14. He received money for all three agreements when he signed. Not only that but he has taken out an advance on his purse to fight Pacquiao.
Joe Johnson
Got your ass.
Chad Ochocinco
Hold on Manny Pacquiao said he does not want to put the record if he's scared not to put the record on the line professional boxing match. Not only should they have never executed these agreements, oh, this is what Pacquiao manager said. If he's scared of Manny, of Manny and does not want to put the record on the line in a professional boxing match, not only should he have never executed these agreements, but he should have just come right out and said because Manny ain't scared.
ISO
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
What do you deduce from what's going on?
ISO
Hey, I mean it's unfortunate that that has come to what it's come to. Obviously when we we first heard about him having having a three fight deal, we understood why he's having A three fight deal. I gave my name to people that he could afford that could have helped him if he, if he was in financial crisis and, and needed to recoup some of that money back. And Manny Pacquiao was one of the names. I, I, it's crazy that it's even got to this point. I don't, I don't even know what to think. Think about it at this, at this point, obviously signing multiple deals and getting in advance and having them pay you ahead of the fight, I mean, like I, is that normal? Does that, does that happen?
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, you, hey, yeah.
Fan Caller
Oh.
Chad Ochocinco
Oo. I've, I've known players that, that they burn through their money, they take out an advance on next year's salary.
Joe Johnson
Nah.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes.
ISO
Wait, hold on, hold on, wait, wait. Bring that, hold on. Time out, time out. Bring that back to me one more time.
Chad Ochocinco
I've seen guys, I know guys, I'm never going to put that business out there that, that go through the money that they made in 25 that they got to take a, an advance out on 26 salary.
Joe Johnson
Yes, man, I hope ain't, I, I hope ain't none of this true, man. I, I, I, I know they, they're pretty much quotes, but I hope Florida ain't in that predicament, bro.
Chad Ochocinco
I hope so too, Joe. I hope so too.
ISO
I just, if you think about it, I mean, I, I love Floyd, I love the lifestyle. I love Floyd the boxer as well. But when you look at the way he lives life, you look at the way he does things, the entourage, the women, the jewelry, the bags, it's almost impossible. And, and you would understand that, Joe, you would also understand it's impossible to, to maintain a lifestyle like that when you're not still fight unless you got
Chad Ochocinco
200, $300 million coming in. It's impossible, you know, I mean, because you got money going out, well, you
ISO
don't have enough coming in to maintain it.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't care how much you make. Ocho, how much did you keep?
Joe Johnson
Right, there you go.
Chad Ochocinco
How much you make? It's how much you keep. So imagine you make, you make a billion dollars. So in other words, he lives in Vegas. If he made a billion dollars, he made 630 million. Now that's what he made. What is his lifestyle? When you got two jets, you got people, you know, and they said that he had people to wash his cars, even the ones that he wasn't driving. Thousand dollar haircuts got made, you got entourage, you flying all these people. I mean, I've never seen Floyd out in public without six bodyguards.
Joe Johnson
It adds up.
Chad Ochocinco
They ain't working for free.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
So we. All those Hermes bags. How many of those big Hermes bags, though? He got the crop. He got one Himalayan. The bags start out about 150. Go, probably the 3, 405. He probably got 50, 10, 15 of them. How many watches? Probably got 40 watches. The report that they filed, what you call them, a. A lawsuit against him. He got a $1.4 million worth of jury in Florida.
ISO
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco
This past summer. Ocho. How many. Ocho. Okay, you want a Bugatti?
ISO
Good.
Chad Ochocinco
Ocho. Do I need four Bugattis? Do I need ten Rolls Royces? Do I need five Ferraris? Do I need. I'm just. I'm just saying, how much is enough? Because let me tell you the problem that you run into. If you only become defined by what you have, what happens when it goes away?
Joe Johnson
Hello.
Chad Ochocinco
Let me explain something to you. Chad, listen to me. Just stay with me for a little second. A lot of times athletes run into problems because what are they defined by the sport they played? Now all of a sudden, no show the crowd, there's no clapping. Now all of a sudden, this is not a 10th year man from the University of Oregon. This is not a 10th year man from Arkansas. This is not a 14 year vet from Savannah State. So when the. When the applause stop, when the adulation goes away, who are you? See, when you play football, you play basketball, that's not who you are. That's what you did.
Joe Johnson
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
See all that stuff, a lot of times, oo talk, I can speak to me personally growing up, how I grew up, I wanted certain things then I got. Didn't change who I was. I wanted to change how people looked at me.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
ISO
Now,
Chad Ochocinco
at what expense, at what cost do I need an excess? I need 15 of this and 25 of that. You want to buy a watch? Okay. I ain't got no problem. I like watches.
ISO
And it is hard for me to fathom because you already know how I am, Uncle Joe. People in the chat, you know I am when it comes to money. You know how I am when it comes to spinning. So it's hard for me to even wrap my head around him being in this situation. But I also understand how and why based on what I've seen over the years. And I'm. And I'm hoping, you know, for his sake, I'm hoping those fights are made. I'm hoping he recoups as much as he can and understands that you got to Pull the reins back a little bit. You already. Floyd Mayweather. You don't have. You don't have to. You don't have to prove anything anymore to anyone at this point.
Chad Ochocinco
Ocho, you've been eating caviar for the last 10 years. How you go back to eating, Buying a sausages, how you eat by potted meat, how you eat baloney hocho. You can't eat no ham.
ISO
You have a choice. You used to don't have a choice.
Chad Ochocinco
You know what them seafood towers when they got them big old crab claws up there, them scallops, them big old shrimp, the cocktail strip with that cocktail sauce. Yeah, you used to order them. Let me get like, three of those. Now all of a sudden, guess what. N. I'm just good with the bread and the Caesar salad. You.
ISO
You got to. You ain't got no choice. You. You ain't got no choice. I mean, I know you have to listen, you have the name Money Mayweather, therefore you have to live that style. And that image has to match exactly what your name is.
Chad Ochocinco
But you see, once you start that, what?
ISO
You got to keep it up.
Joe Johnson
Gotta keep it up.
ISO
But it's impossible.
Chad Ochocinco
It's just.
Joe Johnson
Hey, that's just like you starting off. You starting off with that girl. You leave with money. You buying all kind of gifts from junk.
Chad Ochocinco
You show up, you show up with a Birkin, you show up with a go. So if you show up with a Birkin, where you go from there? What's out of the Birkin? Hey, you better show up with a coach, you better show up with a case.
ISO
At least you can work your way up. Work your way from.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
The first trip we go on, we go to the Maldives, we go to the Mafy Coast.
Joe Johnson
I don't know how you go. I don't know how you gonna top
Chad Ochocinco
that the next day. Hey, Shout, you got to take me to heaven, baby.
ISO
Hey, hey. That's one of the worst things to do, Uncle Joe, is you leave with money and you show off in the beginning, and then now her expectations are that over time and it's impossible to keep up. It's impossible to keep up with doing that over and over and over. It's impossible.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I. I just. I just hate it. I agree with you, Joe. And. And I think we all. I think we all can speak. I just hope none of this is true.
ISO
Right?
Chad Ochocinco
But there's just been so much that's been coming out. Coming out. And I told o. I said, ocho, think about it. You at this age, you Gonna put that undefeated record on the line. That's his whole thing, Ocho. The whole thing is undefeated. Yeah, the whole time. That's why he said, no, no, no, man said, no, no. I want to take. I want to be the one to put that one on there. I want to put that blemish on that record. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This ain't no expedition. Exhibition.
Joe Johnson
Exhibition.
Chad Ochocinco
I ain't play. Play.
ISO
I.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, that's a tough one now, bro.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm just.
ISO
Everybody don't get us, Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
You got to. And I understand chat. I understand about taxes. Uncle Sam, the only mofo that don't work and get half your money.
Joe Johnson
Hello.
Chad Ochocinco
He don't do ish, but got his hand stuck out. And I get it. I hate paying that quarterly payment. I hate it. But you ain't come to get my stuff.
ISO
Listen, it's a select few. Give me Uncle Joe. It's a select few that sit high and look low when it comes to them taxes. They make their own damn rules, huh? You. You. You're not hearing what I'm saying. Make their own rules. They do as they please. But when it come to us, you ain't got no choice. You got to pay.
Chad Ochocinco
You got to pay them, boy. Hey, they got Leona Helm. List you worth a couple of million. She said poor people pay taxes. They said we put rich people in jail, though.
ISO
She went to jail.
Chad Ochocinco
Come on. Absolutely, she did.
ISO
How long she had to do?
Chad Ochocinco
She did. A couple of months. You ain't do that long. But it's just a matter of fact. You got a billion dollars.
Joe Johnson
Hold on. He talking about a couple months. Ain't that long.
Chad Ochocinco
What, a day? A day. A long time. When you got. When if you got any amount of money, imagine. I mean, somebody would that making 500,000 go to jail. Imagine you a billionaire and you. You eating that. I don't know. Maybe they gave her a special. A special diet or something. I don't know. But no, man, I. I just hate this. I really do. I really do. I enjoyed watching the man box. He was phenomenal. But I just. I just don't know. You, you. You. You made 1.2 billion. Let's just say for the sake of argument, Uncle Sam took 600, 000. Let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, you spent another 300 million. I tell you what, Ocho, you know what I'm gonna say? You know What? You spent 400 million. Live lavish. 400 million. You still got two left, Ocho.
ISO
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco
You put that. If you put that in something middle school, I mean, hey, I. I ain't trying to hit it at the park. Just give me that 6% every year. Yeah, I can live off. I can live off the interest. And it never touched the principal. And it still grows exponentially.
Joe Johnson
Everybody don't have a simple lifestyle like that, though.
ISO
Damn.
Chad Ochocinco
You know,
Joe Johnson
money Mayweather,
ISO
you gotta maintain the image, huh?
Chad Ochocinco
Damn that image. Emmy go broke. Okay. You worry about keeping up the Joneses and the people. They go, hey, he ain't got no. I don't.
Joe Johnson
Hey, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, got it. Nope. I'm driving a 2012 Range Rover, a 2020 BMW. Show is,
Joe Johnson
it'll keep you right, keep
Chad Ochocinco
you safe, get you from point A to point B. Exactly. As long as you don't put me downside the road.
Joe Johnson
Hello.
Chad Ochocinco
And if it do, guess what I got AAA car. I called ass. I'm gonna sit right up in the car. I ain't getting out the car. Pull me to the dealership.
ISO
Damn.
Joe Johnson
I know what you mean, boy.
Chad Ochocinco
Man, I. I think we all did that a little bit early in our career. We got it. Go get them fancy cars. You know, back in the day, Joe, the convertibles. The convertible, the thing you got. Hey, man, why you got a convertible? Hot as it is? They need to see me.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
They can't see me. I got the windows right. It's tenant. I don't know who this is.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
ISO
Would you say they got to see you?
Chad Ochocinco
They need to see me. I pulled right in front of the club and hit the top. That thing laid back like Neo.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
ISO
That's a good one,
Chad Ochocinco
man. I had a convertible. I ain't had a convertible in 15 years.
Joe Johnson
Oh, man,
Chad Ochocinco
I just. Hey.
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ISO
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Chad Ochocinco
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ISO
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ISO
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Chad Ochocinco
All right, we're gonna get out here on this time. For our final segment of the evening, it's time for Q and a. Before we go to the super chat, we got five video voicemails from my discord. Let's take a listen at the first one.
Joe Johnson
Hey, what's going on? Unk ocho ISO hope all the nightcap fam is doing well, being blessed and highly favored. My question was, my name's Chad. I'm coming from Denver, Colorado and my question is I'm an author of fiction books, erotic books, sci fi, all kind of stuff like that, all fiction. And my question was, what would you suggest for better marketing for me to get my name out there? And it's Chad WBooks, by the way. And I also have a YouTube channel. All right, thanks.
Chad Ochocinco
Oo the marketing guru.
ISO
I heard him, uncle.
Joe Johnson
I heard him.
ISO
I heard him. I heard something about he write book and he trying to think of a
Chad Ochocinco
way he write books, sci fi, stuff like that. Yes.
ISO
Hey, listen, that's right up my alley. We talk about Mark, we talk about Martin. So what I'm gonna do, I'm envision I'm writing a book. How do I get that Said book out publicly. Creative. Creative mind. Having some type of video or some type of video or some type of format using social media. But when you create that, that.
Chad Ochocinco
That.
ISO
That video or way to get your book out there, how are you going to catch the people's attention? It has to be something grabbing. Something has to grab their attention to understand that you have a book coming out. Whatever it is. Especially visuals, visuals, visuals. Nothing too long, just some short. But it has to grab you right away, whatever it is. I'm speaking from a marketing stand. Marketing standpoint. That's. That's the only. That's the only thing I can think of.
Joe Johnson
It has to grab you right away because people lose interest quick, quick, quick, quick, quick. You know, if he. If it's too long and drawn out, they. Hey, they gonna go on to the next. So I agree with you on that.
Chad Ochocinco
Ocho social media is the quickest way to get something out now, man. Twitter, ig think about everything.
ISO
You just think about everything you just said. All the social media platforms, right? It's so much content scrolling back and forth, back and forth, and you scroll. It's always a video going up. What is it about that video, whether it's on Facebook, got a breakthrough. Got to grab you right away. It got to grab you.
Chad Ochocinco
Yep.
ISO
So I'm not sure the context and. And the type of books that he's right. He's written, but whatever it is, it got to get you. It got to catch you right away.
Chad Ochocinco
Here's our second one. Let's take a listen.
Fan Caller
What's up, Ocho, man? Congratulations on 2 million subs and stuff, man. But, man, what's up? When we gonna get nightcap out here in okc, man? I ain't got no laportier out here. We ain't got none of Ocho cigars, man. We won a championship last year. We finna win this year, man. Come on, man. Can we get some Laportier and some cigars out here from y'?
Chad Ochocinco
All? Or even.
Fan Caller
Even a nightcap on the road out here, man? That's all we asked for. I know. We small marketing stuff.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, look, there's a. There's. There's a lot goes into it when we select the city that we're gonna go to. Obviously we look at the analytics, we look at where we think we can have some success. It doesn't do us any good to go somewhere, Ocho, where we don't think we're going to be successful just to go there.
Joe Johnson
Right.
Chad Ochocinco
It's a huge undertaking to Put one of these things on to get a building, get security, get the team out there. It's a huge undertaking. And I can just imagine that's just for a live. So can you can imagine what a concert?
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
So we'll. We'll look into that, bro. I. I don't. I don't really make. I can't make you any promises. We're kind of looking at probably trying to maybe do something maybe in summer, maybe do like a three. A three city tour. But it's just a huge undertaking. And. And. And to do it. To do a tour and to jump right back in the football season, because that's what kind of what we did, Ocho. We went. Did the tour, and then we just like to it right back into it, man. And I know. I know you want to exhale. I damn sure.
ISO
Hey, when you think about it, right, you talk about exhaling, when exactly would that exhale be, you think? This year?
Joe Johnson
I. I think. I think for y', all, it'll probably be late June round birthday. He normally like to be out around his birthday.
Chad Ochocinco
I do like to be out, but we got. We no remember, we got the World cup now.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
So July.
ISO
Oh, July.
Joe Johnson
Okay, listen, hey, look, look, look. Whenever y' all take off, just.
Chad Ochocinco
Just you go hold it down.
Joe Johnson
I promise y'.
Chad Ochocinco
All.
Joe Johnson
I got y'.
ISO
All.
Joe Johnson
It don't matter. Y' all need me to hold it down for two weeks.
Chad Ochocinco
3.
Joe Johnson
I got something these folks want to see, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay.
Joe Johnson
I got something people want to see.
Chad Ochocinco
I sure can use B3. I might need three months off while y' all bull. Hey, y'.
Joe Johnson
All.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey. I have no gray. I have another. Great. Look at this.
ISO
Well, hey, well, you looking like Santa Claus now, boy.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey, look good.
Joe Johnson
Hey, look good on you. It look good on you, man.
Chad Ochocinco
I appreciate that. All right, here's our third one. Let's take a listen to what he
Younger Fan
had to say, Ocho. I show and still hello. Now, y' all be playing crazy, though, bro. I turned 21 next month. You know what I'm saying? I've been watching for like two years since I've been like 18, so, like, so much game I didn't acquire from y' all boys in ISO. Like, same with you, brother. Like, just so much game y' all put me on, bro. I appreciate y'.
Chad Ochocinco
All.
Younger Fan
I support y' all with whatever, Unc.
ISO
You hear me?
Younger Fan
Whatever situation you in ever again. I got you, bruh. Go check my Twitter receipts. I was. I was fighting for you.
Chad Ochocinco
You feel me?
Younger Fan
When that whole. Yeah, yeah, but it's 26 now. It's the new year unfree. You know what I'm saying? But, nah, most definitely not gonna be 21 next month in May, and then in June, I'm going to Vegas, so let me know some food spots your boy can hit up. I'll be 21, so let me know if got any adult yoga. As Ocho would say, places just check out.
Joe Johnson
Slow down, Turbo Man.
Chad Ochocinco
Look here, Joe, you right. I was thinking about my birthday, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, all I All. All I'm saying, hey, let's see. April, May, June. I got about 14 weeks. All I can just see myself is looking over the balcony. That's it. Look at the balcony, looking at the waves slap up against the beach.
Joe Johnson
Yeah. Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
That ain't the only thing that's gonna be slapping. Hello. I'm just saying, my man, I appreciate that, man. I. I really appreciate the support The. The. The fans, the Nightcap fans, Club, Shay Shay fans, everybody that supported me have been so, so supportive, and I can't thank you enough. Obviously, my family and my closest friends that have been there, Ocho and Joe, I really appreciate you guys and everybody that's on the team. It's been a. It's been a tumultuous ride. But, hey, sunshine follows Rain Man. What? What? What? Someone. What God has for you, it won't miss you.
ISO
And then one thing, Joe and Unc, boy, when the last time you took a flight? It ain't been no turbulence. Come on, now.
Joe Johnson
There you go.
Chad Ochocinco
You're right about that. Yeah. But, hey, boy, look here. That was a stretch there, man. I was like, yeah. That was really the only time, guys, to be honest with you, that I was going through something. I can just imagine. I said, man, I wish heaven had a telephone. I could call Granny and say, granny, I'm gonna be okay. I could call and tell my grandfather, papa, you had a little boy that you raised. Yeah. All right. I'm gonna be okay. It's tough right now. Don't worry. Don't worry. If tele. If heaven had a telephone, those are two people I would have called, man. Cuz I wanted them to know it was okay and that the baby was going to be okay. Ah, fifth one. Here it is. Let's take a listen. What is it, the fourth or fifth one? Fourth. Okay, just the fourth one. Let's see what he has to say. Just want to hop on here real quick to congratulate y'. All for 2 million subscribers.
Commercial Voice
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Chad Ochocinco
and the rest of the team.
Commercial Voice
And real quick, Ocho, who is your soccer jersey plug, bro?
ISO
Hey, my soccer jersey plug is classic shirts, retro kits. Sometimes I go. I go on. I go on safari. I'll just hit vintage kits. Vintage kids, 1970s vintage kits, 80s, vintage kids, 90s, like that and that. That's how I get most of them. So I think I bought every. I mean, obviously, I've been collecting since what, 2000? Since 2000. Collecting jerseys over the years. So I've been doing this so long, I have literally almost every kid in every team possible. I have track jackets like I have on tonight. From every team, obviously. Have every. Every club, regardless of league city. Ah, la liga, epl, Bundeslig. I got it all.
Chad Ochocinco
Need to bring them throwback jerseys back. I got all them. God, they gonna throw back jerseys.
Joe Johnson
Oh, you still gotta throw back.
Chad Ochocinco
NFL and baseball.
ISO
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Johnson
You still got some.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, man. Some, man.
Joe Johnson
I had a. I had, like, one of them big army duffel bags. I'm talking about full of football, basketball, jersey. Somebody stole my whole bag, bro. I probably had over 100 some jerseys. And no lie.
Chad Ochocinco
Damn, I bet I got that many. I'm talking about Dave Winfield, Padres jersey. Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Milwaukee jersey. Bob McAdoo, Buffalo Braves jersey.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hey. It was once upon a time.
Chad Ochocinco
Tommy Nobis.
Joe Johnson
Hey, it's once upon a time. You couldn't be caught outside without one of them on, boy. You couldn't, man.
Chad Ochocinco
I. I mean, I. I got. Hey, bro. I got him. All right, our last and final one. Let's take a listen. What he had to say.
Fan Caller
Oh, ISO, man, I got a quick question for the Nightcap fam. Or not the nightcap fam. My bad. ISO, specifically, can you tell me about that 2014 Eastern semifinals with the Nets? Man, you have some dogs on your team. You had Dwell, Paul Pierce, kg, Sean Livingston. Talk to me about that playoffs matchup in 2014. And y' all have a good night, man. Thank you and God bless.
Chad Ochocinco
Appreciate it. Is that when y' all play the. The Heat, Joe?
Joe Johnson
Nah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We played the Raptors. We played the Raptors in the first round, and we were a seven seed. Ocho. The Raptors was a two seed, and we won seven games with them, beat them game seven and end up playing the Miami Heat right after that. Playing with Paul Pierce, kg, Darren Williams. We had Brook Lopez that year, but he got hurt. He broke his foot. And see, what. That's what a lot of people don't know, like mid season, Brook break his foot, and now KG got to play the five. We had Paul at the four, so it made us faster. It made us a little more unpredictable because we just had guys dog who just wanted to hoop, and we was able to turn that thing around, man. We started off the season, Uncle Ocho 5 and 15 on the front of Sports Illustrated. I'm talking about getting slack every night, and I can't make this up. And then Brooke got hurt. Brooke and D. Will got hurt, and we went on the run. Ended up getting back to.500. And like I said, we ended up making a postseason and having a great run. But those tough times, you know, man, when you playing on a team like that, bro, you know, it bring you closer together or it divides you, but it brought us closer together, and we was able to make a playoff push. Just unfortunately that we ran into LeBron and D. Wade and Chris Bosh, Miami Heat team.
Chad Ochocinco
Man, y' all need to go ahead on, man. Y', all, man, this chat, boy. Chat at the chat.
ISO
What happened? What happened?
Joe Johnson
They tell me every kid of a band.
ISO
What's wrong with him?
Chad Ochocinco
What happened, Man, I ain't doing that now, but. Man called it. Nah, hell no.
Joe Johnson
Ojo angry retard.
ISO
Hold on. I'm gonna go to the chat.
Chad Ochocinco
Nah. Jujitsu83. Ocho. Just curious if you hung out with any major soccer players. If so, then some cool dudes all whining on the field. Kills me, bro. Love.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
ISO
I mean, I. I mean, obviously, no. Damn near damn near all of them at this point. Bridging the gap. Being able to meet most of the players was. Was easy because of contractual obligations, you know, through the NFL with Nike and obviously Reebok and Adidas. So I was able to meet everybody. Everybody cool. And, you know, the rolling on the floor. I mean, I know y'. All. Y' all hate it, and you complain all. They always falling, but they give you time to rest, too. Some of. Some of the times, it's. It's clock. It's clock killing, but it gives you. It give your teammates time to rest.
Chad Ochocinco
Ron, for me, question for all three. Was there ever a moment in your life where you felt like giving up, but didn't? And how did that moment change you as a man, not just an athlete?
ISO
Well, I ain't. I ain't never got to that point on having. Wanting to give up. I got too many kids, boy. I ain't. That's not even a thought.
Joe Johnson
It wasn't even. It wasn't Even necessarily kids, for me, I'm speaking, you know, from the time I was in college, obviously being. Being Prop 48, not being eligible, can't practice with the team, can't play with the team. So, you know, those things I had to do to kind of stay in shape until I got eligible. But quitting?
ISO
No.
Joe Johnson
Nah. I never. I never was at that point to where I was like, man, maybe this ain't meant to be. Hell, no. I was willing to go through hell and high waters to get to where I was trying to go.
Chad Ochocinco
For sure.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
That wasn't even the option. I mean, I think I. I think the last year was probably the toughest it's been. But I just remember what my grandfather used to always say, boy, hey, you closer than you think.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
He used to always tell me we'd have something, and it was. It was so. It. Man, it was so heavy. I was such a little boy, and it was so heavy. And he said, just don't put it down. He said, just don't set it down, son. He said, you closer to where it needs to be than what you think you are. And I just raw. I just always play that. Okay, Shannon. It's almost over. It's almost over. Your. It's. It's. It's. You closer than you think. Yeah, closer than you think. I just played that over and over in my head. And I can just imagine when the people on the ark, it rained for 40 days and 40 nights. Oh, they probably thought it was never going to stop raining. I felt that seemed like one thing after another after another after another. But like you guys said, I got so many people counting on me.
ISO
Not even an optional and not even a thought.
Chad Ochocinco
No, no, wait, who. No, I'm not unturned into a lot until everything I told my grandmother on a. On a. Dying on a deathbed. Who gonna take care of them? Who gonna take care of my kids?
ISO
Hey, I. I.
Chad Ochocinco
Who gonna take care of my sister? Who gonna take care of my mom? That's my responsibility. Nah.
ISO
You ever had an issue, Uncle Joe? Y' all ever had an issue with mental health before?
Joe Johnson
If I did, I ain't.
ISO
Same. Same thing.
Chad Ochocinco
You ever had a. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you can't sleep.
Joe Johnson
Okay.
Chad Ochocinco
I mean, just
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Chad Ochocinco
turning like you in the storm. You in the storm Ocho you in it and you're like hey just let that will be done. Ain't nothing else I can do. I mean it now. Yeah Big Dale, 79 Love the show Ocho ISO Rock Town. Can I get a shout out? It's my baby girl's birthday. Happy 13th birthday, Ivy. Daddy loves you. Absolutely. Big dale. Ivy. Happy 13th birthday. A teenager. Yeah, like that. Teen. To being a teenager. I ain't 12. I'm 12. I'm about to be a teenager. You're a teenager, Ivy.
Joe Johnson
Man.
Chad Ochocinco
Congratulations. Stay focused. Keep your head up. Stay prayed up. Good things happening down the road. Happy birthday, Nino Rogers. Yo, Ocho ISO. Congrats again on 2 million. I've been rolling with y' all since the fourth grade watching those NASDAQ commercials. Hey, you can't even spell Dodd Jones. You're an inspiration, you know. Thank you very much. Who is that with? I'm trying to think. Who would I do that with? Me and Jason Seahorn shot that commercial. Your mama pays full commission. You don't even know how to calculate a P. A PE Ratio. Who? A char. I think it might have been Charles Schwab. Might have been swabbed, but appreciate it, Nino. Marcus Mack, Nightcap family. Can you shout out my son, Jason Gibbs? He just got back from college visits for his senior year. Can y' all wish him good luck on picking a school? Much love. Great job on 2 million. Absolutely. Jay Zon, congratulations. Hey. Just got back from college.
Joe Johnson
Business, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, that means you did something right. While you. Oh, yeah. Make the right decision, pray about it. He won't lead you wrong. Trust your gut and continue on this road to success. Marcus, we appreciate you for watching and supporting. It's people like you that make Nightcap all the worthwhile.
Joe Johnson
Yes, sir.
Chad Ochocinco
Aaron Owens, which team do you think will take a bigger leap next year? The Hawks or the Hornets?
Joe Johnson
The Hawks. But I'm gonna tell you why the Hawks. Because Jalen Johnson. I don't even know if he entered his prime yet. Uncle Ocho.
Chad Ochocinco
No.
Joe Johnson
You know, so if he had 22, 23 points a game this year, you know, the leap gonna be about 26, 27 next year. He gonna be at about 26 a game next year. You know, he. When I watch him play, he still has a few things he need to work on as far as. Especially his go to moves. When it come down to stretching basketball games under five minutes. When we put the ball in your hands, sometimes you're gonna have to go to that back down and be able to have a back to the basket game. Because of his height and his athleticism, he should have at least a move or two that he can go to in that post. To where I don't care who guarding it may be Wimby, you ain't gonna be able to stop this. You know what I mean? So I think once he, once he understands and figure that out, it's going to take his game to a whole nother level.
Chad Ochocinco
Real Chris Moore. Love the show. What are your thoughts on Memphis coach Charles Huff saying no music in practice, Joe? What's common? What's what? What normally happens at practice, man, listen, we.
Joe Johnson
Hey, look, like I told y', all, I played in Miami. I played with the Miami Heat. You know how structured it is over there. But we always had music in, in, in, in in practice, man. You know, that was a way for guys to kind of get loose, you know, for whatever reason, you competed a little harder. Understanding the vibe was nice. Man, nobody want to be in no cold, quiet gym, man. We trying to. Hey, we want to get loose.
ISO
Hey, that's basketball, too, Unc. Would a coach said that?
Chad Ochocinco
Yes.
ISO
Yeah. Yeah, he going. He gonna. As crazy as it may sound.
Chad Ochocinco
I guess I, I, I mean, I, I see. I guess now in football, guys, y' all have practice. We only had, we only had music, Ocho. If we're on the road for crowd noise, we never had music like some people be having music. Yeah, we didn't have that, but I
ISO
think they had music every warm up.
Joe Johnson
Damn. Well, he said in practice, right? Oh, he said right.
Chad Ochocinco
So I'm thinking basketball.
ISO
Hey, yeah, well, I can see some, some people goddamn leaving now. Well, what you we running? What y' all running? We running the prison or what? No music, man. Please.
Joe Johnson
They've been doing that because I know they've been playing. Well, so if they've been doing it without it, they may need to keep it.
ISO
Hey, hey.
Chad Ochocinco
Nah, he a football.
ISO
That's football.
Chad Ochocinco
He the football coach at Memphis.
Joe Johnson
Oh, oh, in Memphis.
ISO
Different, yes, but still, but still, music has always been a part of, you know, out there in stretch line in the locker room, surround sound system.
Chad Ochocinco
Well, I, I ain't never. I ain't never had that.
ISO
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
What?
Joe Johnson
You ain't never had what music played in, in practice?
Chad Ochocinco
Nope. Only time we had music. Ocho. On the road, crowd.
ISO
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Chad Ochocinco
That's it. We ain't have no music.
ISO
That's a little too much.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, damn.
ISO
What happened?
Joe Johnson
What happened?
Chad Ochocinco
Ah, I better did something about y'.
ISO
All. What, what happened?
Chad Ochocinco
You know, how we playing a crowd, how to play the crowd noise. So they put a, you know, a, a, a CD in there for crowd. So they have a CD for crowd noise.
Joe Johnson
What you done Done, man.
Chad Ochocinco
How about I took the CD out, put two live crews. Check this out. I gotta have the worst look ever. As soon as they're about to start the crowd noise, Coach Reeves and his daughter get out the car.
Joe Johnson
Oh, hit the button.
ISO
I want to walk. I want to walk. I want to rock.
Joe Johnson
Hell, no.
Chad Ochocinco
Lord have mercy.
ISO
Hey, that's funny.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm. Who did? I don't know who. I don't know who did. Man, what Y', all. Man, y' all play too much. I gotta admit. It was me. Hey, I was a rookie, too.
ISO
You did that as a rookie.
Chad Ochocinco
I have no. I didn't want my. No, it was my. It was my second year, Ocho. I never forget. We was on the far field, too. Of all the time. Them people could have come. Why they come then?
ISO
You had to be real.
Chad Ochocinco
And why y' all come back there? Why aren't y' all going through the front?
ISO
That means he was real comfortable then.
Joe Johnson
I have.
Chad Ochocinco
I ain't having out your man, you know. I guess that's why I don't play now. Boy, I guarantee he'd cut me if he knew it was me.
ISO
Yeah, you think so for that?
Chad Ochocinco
Hell, yeah. Absolutely.
ISO
Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
TS Car Wash Detail Service. Chris Carter had the best hands in the league. I would probably say Cece or Brandon Lloyd. It's close. Yeah, it's close. Now, this is pre technology. And the tactified gloves that they play with now, Ocho.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
ISO
Yeah. I mean, we. We forget about Larry Fitzgerald.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, but Larry played in the tactified glove era, too, though. Brandon Lord and CC Ain't have that. Brandon Lloyd did. Yeah, but he played in regular glove. Yeah.
Joe Johnson
Hey, what you mean when you say regular gloves, though, man?
Chad Ochocinco
The gloves so. Them gloves so sticky now, man. Lord have mercy.
Joe Johnson
That's why you're able to do the. That's why they have them numers.
Chad Ochocinco
You weren't catching nothing one hand.
ISO
Them numis had that nice leather, though, boy.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, they did. They did.
ISO
You put them on. That's a good feeling with them Newmans, man.
Chad Ochocinco
They need to make. They need to make a tactified glove that's a. A cold weather glove like the Newmans. Cause you remember, Ocho, the Newmans had the ribbons when it got cold, and they had the thin ones. They need to make a tactifier glove.
ISO
And you think they still sell Newman gloves? I don't know. Let me. Let me Google that, because you probably can find.
Chad Ochocinco
Used to fit.
ISO
Good boy.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I've never. I haven't seen them.
ISO
I Haven't seen them in years either. I know. When I first got to Cincinnati in 2001, I seen a few of them in the locker room.
Joe Johnson
They still selling?
ISO
Yep. There they go right here. Newman. Newman. Tactified receiver gloves. 49 from Sports Depot.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, they got tactified. So Newman got in on. Got on the tactified. Tactification.
Joe Johnson
Wow.
ISO
They only got. They only got two colors, Black and white.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm gonna see you. You better take the word right out of my mouth, because my brother had a deal with him for a while, and they. I ended up having. They sent me a pair. They sent some to me, and I had my number on the thumb. Official Febreze. Hey, Ocho ISO. Cupcake mama. I'm only 27, but I'm hot and ready like Little Caesar pizza.
ISO
Hey, that's for you. That's for Aunt. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, that's.
Chad Ochocinco
No, no, no, no, no. That's for cupcake mama. You remember, Cupcake said she had just got out of the marriage and she was looking for somebody, but these guys out here was playing, so he said that.
ISO
Hey, he 27, okay, okay, okay.
Joe Johnson
Oh, he said he's single, ready to mingle.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, Cupcake. You hear that? Kevin Boat Knight? Ocho ISO. If you could play in each other's respective league, what position could you see yourself playing there? Joe, you play football. What you gonna be?
Joe Johnson
I got some hands, okay? Oh, Joe, some hands. I'm be. I'm gonna be at that tight end spot.
Chad Ochocinco
Joe, you might be a little bit too tall. You might have to be a quarterback.
ISO
Joe, wait, he gonna. I need to call for that, too. I got.
Joe Johnson
I got a nice little arm on me. What are you talking about?
Chad Ochocinco
Ocho, can you beat Badger Joe at 6, 9, go across the building.
ISO
It's one thing to be big, but too big of a target is not
Chad Ochocinco
a good thing because you know, they take. Hey, they taking my knees right out.
ISO
Yep.
Joe Johnson
I already know I ain't gonna play no game with them boys out there.
ISO
Trying to think.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't. I mean, look at six two. We could be number. I'll be. I'll be a rebounded point guard. That's all. That's the only position we can play. Oh, yo, we can't play.
ISO
I probably played it too, huh? Six, three. You know, we shoot that thing mid range, put it on the floor. You know, I play. I play with my back to the basket if need be, come out the pick and roll. Hey, you know, pop and shoot. I mean, what you need me to do.
Joe Johnson
You don't take me for that kind of player, Ocho. I think I look at you like a energy hustle guy. You know what I mean?
Chad Ochocinco
Come in. Yeah, he gonna be like,
ISO
respect me like that.
Chad Ochocinco
No, no, no, no.
Joe Johnson
They. They pay good.
Chad Ochocinco
No, no, no, no, no.
ISO
I'm making top dollar like I did when I was playing in the league. So therefore, he has to transition to exactly what it is in basketball.
Joe Johnson
Listen, you gonna make top dollar. Cause you're gonna be a disruptor. You ain't gonna let your man catch the ball. If you do catch up, you will be T.J. mcConnell.
ISO
No, I. I'd be like. Listen, I. I won't be disrespectful. I won't be Kobe, I won't be Jordan. But I'd be like. I'd be like Kyrie. I'd be. Hey, listen. No, I'd be like Kyrie. See, Kyrie has a pacific skill set he's known for, right?
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, Kyrie can score score, too.
ISO
I scored in the NFL. Listen, Kyrie is known for his handles, right? He has the best handles of all time. When they talk about football and Rob, who do they. Everyone say has the best feet of all. See? So I'm Kyrie best feet all time.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay? No, Joe. Joe, I got the perfect pick. Guess who Ocho go be. Who? Jose Alvarado.
Joe Johnson
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, that's him.
Chad Ochocinco
Listen, that's you.
ISO
Oh,
Joe Johnson
he disrespected me, Ocho. With them.
Chad Ochocinco
With them feet.
Joe Johnson
With them quick feet you got. You gonna lead the league and steal. Yeah, they're gonna pay you. They gonna pay you good money for that. Look, I tell you one thing. They ain't gonna want to see you coming. Boy, they gonna blow now, Ocho car be tonight. I don't want them problems.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, you're gonna be like Gary Payton. Gary.
ISO
No, I'm an offensive player, Joe. You. You can't make. You can't. I can't go off of the player in the NFL, and you put me on defense in the NBA, I'm basically. I'm basically a sick.
Chad Ochocinco
You have to play both of them.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, this ain't like the NFL.
Chad Ochocinco
Your ass out. What are you talking about?
Joe Johnson
You got to play both ends.
ISO
I'm going to be like L. Luca. What you talking about? I'm a score.
Chad Ochocinco
No, you ain't gonna be like, score.
ISO
I'm 35, 40 a night.
Chad Ochocinco
You ain't. You ain't like Luca. Yeah. Anthony D. Coleman. I love to see ISO on Club Shaysha. Or have his own podcast. Okay, okay, Antoinette. We see if we can. We can see if we can work out.
Joe Johnson
Never know. Never know.
Chad Ochocinco
Never know. Congrats to 2 million organic subs. I turned 35 at 12. And the older you get, the more you realize how blessed you are to see another year. Man, you're exactly right. Cause you get to a point in time, and you realize the only thing there is to do is to get old. And that's it. And before I get too old, if you can say, hey, hey, hey, Joe, the chat said, oh, you're gonna be fanatic. The Nasis yardage, brother.
ISO
Who's that?
Joe Johnson
Listen, the same player who I told you you was gonna be an energy. Hey, you gonna get a hundred. You gonna get a thousand claps a game. Yeah, that's gonna be you, won't you?
ISO
They're gonna pay you.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, give you good. To give you good. A blowout one way or another. You in the game.
ISO
Y' all doing the comparisons wrong. You're supposed to compare it as if I'm the same person I was in NFL. You naming all these people that don't even do nothing in the NBA. That don't make no sense.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, yo, but you're not gonna be that person.
ISO
Take the skill set as if I was Ocho and I'm an NBA player. Y', all.
Chad Ochocinco
Y'. All.
ISO
Y' all name all these. These people that ain't nobodies.
Chad Ochocinco
No, they some.
ISO
No, they know they not. No, they not. They not comparable to how it was on the field now. Hey, listen, y' all about to piss me off now.
Chad Ochocinco
That's all right. You rather be pissed off or pissed on?
ISO
Hey, matter of fact, speaking of being pissed on, you ain't never did that.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, what? Man, you better get up, boy. Please.
ISO
Hey, let me tell you. Get you get you. Get you a shower curtain from Target, Lay it on the bed, put a little baby on, little baby oil on it.
Joe Johnson
You took a golden shower before.
ISO
She ain't never like no Joe on your head.
Joe Johnson
Oh, no. Nah.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, hey.
Joe Johnson
You got to be a freaky dude that get all that. I ain't that freaking
ISO
YouTube. I' ma send y'. All. I'm send y' all my pamphlet. Y' all gotta open up Pandora's box.
Chad Ochocinco
Pandora keep up. I keep Pandora Box closed. The only thing Pandora. I'm opening that. That. That music.
ISO
Yeah. Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, that's good healing, too. Joe. Is good for your body.
Joe Johnson
Would you. What you mean is good for your body? Like. Like inflammation.
ISO
Yeah. Hey, all the Swelling. Take the swelling right out your knee. You hear me?
Chad Ochocinco
I'm staying swollen. Hey, God ain't that bad if somebody got a pov.
ISO
Yeah, y' all gotta try. Hey, y' all ain't living, man.
Joe Johnson
We are living. Oh, Joe.
ISO
Like, y' all don't. Y' all don't want to do nothing every. Everything y'. All.
Chad Ochocinco
I don't want to.
ISO
Everything I mentioned is like. No, no, no, no, no, man. Let the girl pee on you.
Chad Ochocinco
Mentioned some bull job.
ISO
Tell a star that your forehead and work her way down.
Joe Johnson
Man, what's wrong with this dude, man?
ISO
Y' all gotta live, man.
Joe Johnson
I'm living. I'm living too. I'm having a good time.
ISO
You think you having a good time?
Chad Ochocinco
Am I now? You know, okay. I did some things I happen to tell you today. About to be 58 good times. They go say nothing. But I. I gotta. You gotta draw the line someplace. Gotta draw the line.
ISO
Actually, you don't. You don't have to draw the line.
Chad Ochocinco
Yes.
ISO
We have one life to live. I. I need you to live it.
Chad Ochocinco
Well, you don't deal like that's plenty. If you did what I did, that's plenty. Twice.
Joe Johnson
But ten men ain't it all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
I still got some every night. You know, I would have got me a shot today.
Joe Johnson
Oh, look, he feeling good.
Chad Ochocinco
Look at ain't 100. He said by the time that third one, probably about a week or two after that third shot. Say, you should feel a big difference.
ISO
Okay.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, I did.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, did my bench today.
Joe Johnson
Would you. Hey, hey, what you do? You do slow, eccentric when you come down and.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, I do time under tension.
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, so I'm. I'm doing like 1, 2, 3, 4.
ISO
Yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
Paul's at the bottom. Back up. I did 275 for 12. I'm feeling strong.
ISO
Wait, hold on. How many for 12?
Chad Ochocinco
275.
ISO
That's like. That's like.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, okay. You ain't gonna do it.
ISO
I'm in the gym. I'm in the gym tomorrow at 6am if you need me to post a video.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm talking about time. I'm saying you got to take 275 down. You got to go, 1, 2, 3, 4.
ISO
Why do I have to go. Why do I have to go so slow? Why don't I just do it normal?
Chad Ochocinco
Because it's time under tension. Because, see, I ain't trying to do what I ain't. See, I ain't trying to do all the heavyweight. I'm trying to just. Hey, get that good old stretch. Get that.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Check him out. Check him out.
ISO
Hey, Joe, don't do that because me and I'm the same size right now, Joe.
Joe Johnson
Ain't no way.
ISO
Hey, Joe, you want me to come about this AC Milan jacket?
Joe Johnson
Oh, I already seen what you got
ISO
going on, so, you know. You know, I ain't too far off now.
Joe Johnson
No. Okay. Hey, look, pause. But I got a little more girth than you.
Chad Ochocinco
Okay, I said that's not possible.
ISO
Don't. Don't even. You need to find some. Find another word or something.
Joe Johnson
Joe, y' all body type. Y' all body types are different.
ISO
I can get that size.
Joe Johnson
You can't pack on what Uncle? Pack on.
ISO
I can, Joe. It's because I only one time a day, Joe. I don't eat enough.
Chad Ochocinco
After. She already told you, sir. You know, you ain't got that kind of fishing equipment.
ISO
Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. It's. It's the opposite. I tell you. I told you how you keep a 12 if you don't spend no money? Cause let me hear this.
Chad Ochocinco
You a tongue fool mouth
ISO
that can only get you so far, huh? Listen, I'm not one to brag.
Chad Ochocinco
Joe didn't tell me the joke. He did thank for the booty hole to the nose.
Joe Johnson
Come on now.
Chad Ochocinco
From the. From the back there to the nose. Every hole in between he had.
ISO
Are you supposed to start at the bottom and work your way up? Huh?
Chad Ochocinco
I got.
ISO
I gotta. I gotta teach y'. All. Ain't. Y' all ain't.
Chad Ochocinco
You ain't.
ISO
Y' all ain't living right, Joe.
Joe Johnson
From the root of.
ISO
Hey, Joe. I'm telling you, Joe, you married, right? You got to spice things up. Get you some candles, right? Put a blindfold on them, huh? You hear me? Put a blindfold. Take the wax. Take the wax. You know, let the. The wagon. Oh, man. Boy, I could teach y' all some things.
Chad Ochocinco
Where you put the winner here? Your joker has said don't even take off his clothes. She naked. You know what? Naked. That ain't no good trade off of me. This younger, fully dressed. Oh, no. Yeah. Hey, so you already know what time
ISO
it is that sometimes I do that. Sometimes I don't even have to take my clothes off because. Hey, Joe. Listen to me, Joe. Sometimes it's all about mental stimulation. You hear me? Huh?
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
ISO
Because once you. Once you. Once you mentally stimulate the mind, you know, you ain't even got to touch them, huh?
Joe Johnson
Yeah.
ISO
I'm telling you, Joe, I got a YouTube tutorial on how to please the female species. Huh? Like National Geographic. Joe, I'm all over the place. Yeah, man. Joe. I'm telling you, boy, I do some crazy stuff. Joe.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah. Let me down yet? So I'm gonna stick with that. 876 younger Ocho. I'm. I'm an upcoming Jamaican streamer. Do you mind coming out to the wide receiver workshop to get some behind the scenes content, please? Oh, that.
ISO
That's a good one. That's a good one.
Chad Ochocinco
I'm.
ISO
I'm not sure what the. What security is going to be like. I'm not sure with what they, who they. What they already have. As far as you know, from a content perspective who they're going to have coming. So I'm, I'm not the one to really ask about that. If you look at my Instagrams and look at the management in which the email. When it comes to business, they will let you know if it's okay. So go to my Instagrams and you'll see Doug Sanders and you, you'll see, you'll see it up there. Just reach out to them and they'll let you know if it's okay or not.
Chad Ochocinco
Real sports talk. Ocho, you that dude. But the Hawks beating The Celtics in 7 is like Oo gonna pay. UNC that 5900.
ISO
Wait, see Joe, See what he just said? I told you. He said the Hawks not beating the Celtics in seven.
Joe Johnson
Listen, I said they got a chance.
ISO
Oh, my bad.
Joe Johnson
You gotta fight it. Ain't no landslide. When it comes like the house gonna.
Chad Ochocinco
They.
Joe Johnson
Hey, they gonna surprise some people. Now why
Chad Ochocinco
Arizona? Ron Ford. Do y' all think Wimick would go number one in any draft class in NBA history? Everyone is at 18 again. Y' all take it Wimby. I'm not sure he goes over Kareem or LeBron.
ISO
That's a good one.
Joe Johnson
Now with Cleveland having that number one pick.
Chad Ochocinco
No and no. Y' all gotta realize like Kareem. Kareem lost two games in college. He's a three time most outstanding player. He freshman couldn't play. Then when Kareem was a freshman, they couldn't play in the ncaa. His freshman team beat the team that won the national championship.
Joe Johnson
That lets you know how great it was.
Chad Ochocinco
Three times they didn't have an MVP. They call it most outstanding player. Yeah. And LeBron. But for the most part, yeah, it's hard. It'd have been interesting if he came out with Shaq. People don't real see people Y' all look at Shaq now and y' all probably look at him when he was in Boston, Cleveland or maybe even Phoenix. Go back and look at Orlando. Orlando and his first couple years in la.
Joe Johnson
Boy, man, listen, I take you back farther than that. Go watch that man at lsu.
Chad Ochocinco
Oh, man, he was. He's ridiculous in lsu.
Joe Johnson
Go watch him in lsu. That man almost was going to blows with people every game because they were fouling him so hard. But he was just. The thing is, you look at him now, you see how big he is. But he was so agile. Yes, I'm talking about could move for a guy his size. It wasn't no big.
Chad Ochocinco
Still, that's 71325. Shaq could not touch it, couldn't untouch it.
Joe Johnson
He was real, man.
Chad Ochocinco
Burner count. Two ISO. What were you thinking when number five put that tape by three line and the dunk con 06 dunk contest and then jump from nowhere near it. When?
Joe Johnson
What now?
Chad Ochocinco
He said, I guess Josh put that tape by the three point.
Joe Johnson
Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the year before I got here when Josh Smith won dunk contest in Denver.
Chad Ochocinco
I was there.
Joe Johnson
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
I took a thousand dollar off Clinton Porters. He talking about he wasn't gonna win. I said, you know what I'm gonna take. I'm talking, take him. I'm gonna take the dude from Atlanta.
Joe Johnson
Hey, man, let me tell y' all something. When you talking about one legged jumpers, Oo, yeah, you know, you talk about the LeBron's, the. I don't know if y' all know who James White is, but James White, who, who could. Who was unbelievable, but Josh Smith, one leg
ISO
he averted
Joe Johnson
at 69. Oo, that boy was getting off the floor. You hear me? That boy getting off the floor, man, his one leg.
Chad Ochocinco
Serious. Sean Smith. Tell Oko, tell Ocho to say, where's my super suit?
ISO
What are they trying to say? I look like Fro. What's the name? Frozone.
Chad Ochocinco
Frozone. Yeah. Papa Smurf on you. As an elite route runner in Ocho, what does Marvin Harrison Jr need to do in order to improve Ocho? I need you personally to invite him to the wide receiver workshop. Much love from the age.
ISO
Honestly, I would like, I would like him to lose weight, get all that muscle muscle up off of you. Yeah, two muscles to me, you know, you're not. You want to be agile, you want to be as, as small as possible, as limber as possible. So you're able to be. Yeah, you know, elusive, like you were at Ohio State. If you look at him, Ohio State. You look at him now, man, he done got so. Damn, you know, you know, so big, you know, I think it's taking a. A little. A little bit away from his game and what made him special at Ohio State. I'm not sure whose idea it was to put that much muscle on, but I. I losing that muscle and. And just getting back in that lab, man, he gonna be all right. Because we've already seen you do it. We've already seen you do it.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Shadow 08102 million subs and ISO don't got no nightcap light. What's up with that?
Joe Johnson
And turn.
Chad Ochocinco
And turn it on. Unlike Ocho. Cheap ass.
Joe Johnson
Hey, hold on, hold on. Why I'm glad they brought that up because I just ordered me one, but it's gonna take a couple weeks for it again.
ISO
Where you gonna put it at, Joe?
Chad Ochocinco
Man, I sent you. I sent you a. A note about a nightcap light. You ain't respond.
Joe Johnson
You sent me a note?
Chad Ochocinco
Yes.
Joe Johnson
On ig?
Chad Ochocinco
Yep.
Joe Johnson
I ain't see it. My bad.
ISO
Hey, hey, Joe. Where you gonna put yours at?
Chad Ochocinco
That.
Joe Johnson
I'm gonna put it back here on. On this wall for right now. I got a wall. That's why I got this wall and kind of switch some things up.
ISO
Hey, you know what you got to do. You know, it don't look right with the white wall. Man, I need. I can't wait to this get. Oh, my bad. I can't wait to this bull drive get done, man.
Joe Johnson
Oh, man. I got. I got my. My sign gonna be nice, though. It ain't gonna be yours. Look like a waffle House or something back there. Mine gonna be. Mine gonna be way nicer than that.
ISO
I got the same one uncle my camera. I don't know how to. To do the settings in my camera so it doesn't look distorted.
Joe Johnson
I'mma check. I'mma check it out. I'm going check it out on ig, what you sent me. I normally don't. Don't miss nothing on there, but, yeah, I'm going have to see what you done send me. It's a. It's a sign. It's a. It's a sign where y' all got y' all from? Yeah, I'mma check it out.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah. Classic codes. Ocho. I want that work. Six rounds on Brand Risk. Let's get active. Sick. Oh, he said he want that work. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Joe Johnson
Ojo ain't need to be Worried about no six rounds with Buddy.
Chad Ochocinco
He ain't gonna go two with you, Hunt. Joe. Yeah, There you go.
Joe Johnson
Hey, you don't need to be looking toward no other fight right now. What you need worried about is ISO.
Chad Ochocinco
Yeah, yeah.
Joe Johnson
You catch these as soon as I put them on you.
ISO
Hey, Joe. Yeah. It ain't gonna be pretty for you, boy. You hear me?
Joe Johnson
Man, please. I see. You see what you see with old Dora Fedora done one time.
ISO
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chad Ochocinco
You seen.
Joe Johnson
You seen that picture? That. That video I showed you? The. The post game with Keith Thurman was talking about some. Oh, man, the fight was just getting good. Is that. Man, please. That man couldn't even see. Almost, man, that joke out.
Chad Ochocinco
Hey, that Joe got salami outside his eye. He got a knot on his head. I said, what you mean? Hey. Oh, I swear, Ocho. Have you ever seen that? I ain't never seen no guy show up to the press conference with. With meat with cold cut. Putting on his.
ISO
Trying. Trying to get that swelling to go down as fast as possible, bro.
Chad Ochocinco
You know that's a meme now. Hell, no.
ISO
That's messed up.
Chad Ochocinco
Roddy Hill. What's up? Ocho and I. So you can only choose one. Ray or what's Love Got to Do With It? Two classics. Jamie and Angela both did a great job.
Joe Johnson
Ray or what?
Chad Ochocinco
They unbelievable. Angela Bassett should have won Oscar for that role. Yeah, she looked like Tina.
ISO
Yeah, she was built like she killed that road.
Chad Ochocinco
But Jamie Foxx is right. You thought.
Joe Johnson
Hey, you thought he was really right.
ISO
10 to 10,
Chad Ochocinco
Jamie. Because they say Jamie said he had lost weight. He went down to 157 pounds because that's how much Ray actually wore. That's how much he weighed.
Joe Johnson
Yeah,
Chad Ochocinco
man, I love Angela Basil and Tina Turner. It was great. She did. She did. Like I said, she should have won the Oscar. But yeah, Ray.
ISO
Ray killed that.
Joe Johnson
That performance he did on Ray, he killed it.
ISO
The mannerisms, the movements, just. Just everything.
Chad Ochocinco
Don Cinco, 305. Are y' all going to live for draft night? Absolutely, man. Curvy Asian dog. Congrats on hitting 2 million. I just hit 42 years rotating around the sun on this beautiful Earth. The past Saturday. It's a celebration.
Joe Johnson
God is great all the time.
Chad Ochocinco
Congratulations, Kirby.
ISO
Asia.
Chad Ochocinco
42 years around the sun. You're absolutely right. Unbelievable. You got your help. He woke you up this morning.
Joe Johnson
Hello.
Chad Ochocinco
It's a great day to be alive when you consider the alternative.
ISO
Oh, yeah, yeah, Joe, you need to think about the alternative. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, Joe. Think because I'm laid back, I won't lean forward, huh? You hear me?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, Yeah, I think that's. I think that's what you think.
ISO
Because I'm laid back. Why? Won't lean forward, huh? Okay.
Joe Johnson
It's okay. Well, I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna show you. When you play with my time and my money. What?
Chad Ochocinco
What happened?
ISO
What's gonna happen, Joe? What's gonna happen?
Joe Johnson
I'll put them. I'm putting them damn knots inside your head. I'm just letting you know. I'm just letting you know.
ISO
Yeah, I like that.
Chad Ochocinco
Various 117. Uncle Joe putting my GM hat on. What do y' all think about rams trading for AR15 and letting him be the successor to Matt Stafford, who is AR15?
ISO
AR15. Damn, that's a good one. Who went number 15?
Joe Johnson
Yeah, he's talking about. He talking about. Damn. Austin Reeves or something, man.
Chad Ochocinco
No, not for the. Not, no. Hell no. That's the Rams.
ISO
AR15. Who's another quarterback? Who? Huh? Hell no. My bad. No, Hell no. I mean no disrespect, bro.
Chad Ochocinco
He's Anthony Richardson. He can't get no nickname. Anthony Richardson. Not no AR15. No, no, no, no, no, no. You know, you don't get no nickname. You don't get no nickname. You got to earn a nickname. Nah. That concludes this episode of Nightcap. We want to thank you for joining us. We greatly, greatly appreciate that. Y' all know who I am. I'm your favorite aunt. That is my partner and co host, Cincinnati great, former Pro bowl and an all pro. That is Chad Ochocinko Johnson and third member of the big three joining us. He'll be back again tomorrow night. Universal Arkansas alum, seven time NBA all star from the Atlanta Hawks. That's ISO, Joe Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button. Please make sure you hit the like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. Thank you guys for your support. Thanks for the 2 million and many more millions to come. Guys. Looking to purchase a ball of shade by Laportier? Head over to laportierconac.com if it's currently unavailable in a state or city near you. It is the best tasting premium BSOP cognac on the market. Compare it against others and you'll see shaven laportier is the best tasting cognac on the market. The Celtics beat the Heat 147 to 129. Jalen Brown had 43 points and Jason Tatum had a 25 point trip dub. We want to give a special thanks to Mike Washington Jr. Who joined us. University of Arkansas running back that's headed to the NFL draft. Wish him all the best and want to thank the very funny Gary Owen for joining us. A very funny comedian. Hey, if you come into a city near you, make sure you check him out. The guy is hilarious. I'm looking forward to seeing him when he comes to Vegas. I'm gonna check him out again. Thank you guys for joining us. I'm Unc, he's Ocho, he's ISO. We're back tomorrow night. Thank you guys.
Podcast: Club Shay Shay
Date: April 2, 2026
Host(s): Shannon Sharpe (Unc), Chad Ochocinco (Ocho), Joe Johnson (ISO)
Guests: Call-in fans, Nightcap audience
In this “Nightcap Hour 3” episode, Shannon Sharpe, Chad Ochocinco, and Joe Johnson break down recent news surrounding Floyd Mayweather’s financial controversies and the rumored rematch with Manny Pacquiao, tackling broader issues of athlete wealth, identity, and legacy. The trio delivers their signature blend of candid perspective, humor, and real talk, followed by an extended listener Q&A covering marketing, mental health, sports crossovers, and more, engaging with their loyal fanbase and celebrating the podcast’s milestone of 2 million subscribers.
(01:13–14:15)
Mayweather’s Rumored Exhibition vs. Pacquiao:
“He received money for all three agreements when he signed. Not only that but he has taken out an advance on his purse to fight Pacquiao.”
— Chad Ochocinco (01:13)
Financial Speculations and Athlete Spending:
“I hope Floydaint in that predicament, bro.” — Joe Johnson (03:51)
Living Beyond Means:
“It’s not how much you make—Ocho, how much did you keep?” (04:43) “If you only become defined by what you have, what happens when it goes away?” (06:03)
Transition After Fame:
“When the applause stop...who are you? See, when you play football, you play basketball, that's not who you are. That's what you did.” — Chad Ochocinco (06:29)
Humor & Relatability:
“That’s just like you starting off with that girl. You leave with money, you buying all kind of gifts from junk.” — Joe Johnson (09:25)
Reflections on Taxes and Accountability:
“Uncle Sam, the only mofo that don’t work and get half your money.” — Chad Ochocinco (11:23)
The segment balances sharp financial insight with real-life stories about sports stardom, pride, and the lure of luxuries, underlining how easily fortunes can erode when image and excess drive personal choices.
(17:46–65:53)
(18:08–20:22)
“Visions, visuals, visuals. Nothing too long...but it has to grab you right away." — ISO (19:11)
(20:39–23:10)
(23:24–25:39)
“What God has for you, it won’t miss you.” (25:39)
“When the last time you took a flight, it ain't been no turbulence? Come on, now.” (25:46)
(27:13–28:51)
(28:59–34:23)
Fan asks Joe about 2014 NBA Playoffs (Nets):
“Those tough times...when you playing on a team like that, it bring you closer together or it divides you...” — Joe Johnson (30:53)
Question: Ever wanted to give up?
“You’re closer to where it needs to be than what you think you are.” — Chad, quoting his grandfather (33:17)
(47:42–52:18)
If You Switched Leagues:
“You gotta play both ends!” — Joe Johnson (50:55)
Relationship & Lifestyle Banter:
(44:56–46:42)
On Athlete Identity:
“When the applause stop...who are you? See, when you play football, you play basketball, that’s not who you are. That’s what you did.” — Chad Ochocinco (06:29)
On Maintaining Lavish Lifestyles:
“Floyd Mayweather. You don’t have to prove anything anymore.” — ISO (07:51)
On Adversity:
“You’re closer to where it needs to be than what you think you are.” — Chad Ochocinco (33:17)
On Resilience:
“Quitting? Hell, no. I was willing to go through hell and high waters to get to where I was trying to go.” — Joe Johnson (32:48)
On Generational Responsibility:
“Who gonna take care of my kids? ...That’s my responsibility.” — Chad Ochocinco (34:11)
Equal parts heartfelt and humorous, the group effortlessly blends hard-earned life and sports wisdom with playful ribbing, offbeat stories, and real-talk listener engagement. Ocho, Unc, and ISO keep it genuine, motivational, and unfiltered—a signature Nightcap blend.
The episode celebrates 2 million subscribers, answers a flurry of light and serious fan questions, and closes with shout-outs, draft talk, and gratitude. The friendship, energy, and authenticity of the trio create an engaging, insightful listen—whether reminiscing about NBA battles or joking about life, love, and legacy.